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May 4, 2025 62 mins

Trump picks a fight with the governor of Maine and loses, offering up a valuable lesson. Brian interviews Governor Gavin Newsom to discuss California’s economy growing as Trump oversees an economic contraction; Post Save America’s Jon Lovett about Trump pretending his bad economy still belongs to Joe Biden; and Chasten Buttigieg about SignalGate and how his own family dealt with protecting private information.


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Written by Brian Tyler Cohen

Produced by Sam Graber

Recorded in Los Angeles, CA

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