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r/charlottedobreyoutube - Worst wedding ever - Grandfather Marrying his mistress at the venue of my Grandmother's funeral
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
My grandfather married his mistress where my grandmother was bury.

Speaker 2 (00:05):
A two for one deal.

Speaker 1 (00:06):
The combo piece Pops is ruthless. I thirty one female
was always very close with my grandma. She taught me
things like how to knit. She loved teaching me how
to cook, and when we did family walks in the
huge local park, she would take us to get lost
in the woods because she knew how much my brother
and I loved adventures. By the way, this comes from

(00:26):
user far Thought seventy four to twelve on the r slash.

Speaker 3 (00:29):
Okay Storytime suppurate it.

Speaker 1 (00:31):
So, my grandfather always had a parade of mistresses when
my dad and his brother were growing up, and because
my grandmother was traditional and didn't believe in divorce, she
got stuck with these women being practically waved in her face.

Speaker 2 (00:44):
So she was in an open marriage before it was cool.

Speaker 1 (00:47):
Yeah, she was in an open marriage, but only for Pops.
Sadly until the very end. She loved my granddad dearly
myself growing up. From since I can remember the latest
mistress who will call X important to know that X
was thirty plus years younger than him.

Speaker 2 (01:04):
Grandpa knows what he wants.

Speaker 1 (01:05):
My grandma sadly developed Alzheimer's, which meant that my granddad
was even less discreet, parading X around to the point
where he would invite her to meals we went to
where my poor Grandma was present, the worst one being
where my mother was also present, and the dynamic was
Granddad flirting with my mother while X gave him daggers,

(01:28):
my Grandma not really understanding what was going on, and
me just wanting the ground to swallow me up. Almost
ten years ago, my grandma's health declined and I would
go and visit her at the nursing home and take
care for each day. My Granddad would visit her and
bring X along with him, which I found insulting, but boy,
had I seen nothing yet. Sadly, my grandmother passed, but

(01:51):
we had a beautiful cremation service followed by awake at
a fancy hotel. Some drama was caused by my dad's
mistress turned friend. I know it runs in the family,
but overall it went smoothly. A few weeks later, Granddad
arranges the scattering of the ashes. He specified no grandchildren
were allowed, which upset me considering I'd been with her

(02:13):
till the end, but it soon became apparent why my
dad came home and told me that Granddad at the
ash scattering announced he was getting married to X, his mistress.
I was mortified as to how distasteful it was, but
he chose the hotel where he held the wake for
my grandmother and they would be married in three months time.

(02:35):
I didn't want to go for obvious reasons, but my
dad said I had to go so that he wasn't alone.
It was the biggest crap show I've had the misfortune
of witnessing. A friend from a former job came along,
her job being to ply me with booze throughout the day,
and boy did I need it. First of all, all
members of my granddad's family had to wear a flower corsage.

(02:56):
I usually think they're cute, but I didn't want to
be associated with this crap show.

Speaker 3 (03:01):
The ceremony itself was okay.

Speaker 1 (03:03):
I just tried not to pay attention and counted down
the seconds until we could go to the bar. But afterwards,
my friend whispered to me, I especially enjoyed the part
of the vows where they said with the exception of
all others. For the drink's reception, I had to endure
my granddad's pretentious friends coming to me to tell me
how lovely it must be to see my granddad getting married.

(03:24):
And according to my friend, I had a fixed serial
spiller smile whilst she would run to the bar and
swiftly press drinks.

Speaker 3 (03:32):
In my hand.

Speaker 2 (03:32):
So she's just saying like, yeah, it's great, everything's great.
We all had the meal, and then the speeches. Oh god,
the speeches. I had never wanted to crawl under a
rock so badly. First there was the best man speech,
where he told the story of first meeting Granddad and
X telling everyone quote it soon became clear what the

(03:53):
arrangement was with a wink to.

Speaker 1 (03:55):
The audience, my gosh, and ended with a joke about
my grandmother being a frigid cow.

Speaker 2 (04:02):
Dude to take him to the sun with you man, not.

Speaker 3 (04:05):
Even the sun, black hole, black hole.

Speaker 1 (04:07):
X's speech was sentimental bollocks about finding love, which is
all well and good, but he was married to my
grandma at the time. Her brother made a speech about
how Granddad used to wait for X on the drive
in his expensive car, again whilst married to my grandma.

Speaker 2 (04:25):
So this guy has a lot of money.

Speaker 3 (04:26):
This guy's got money.

Speaker 1 (04:27):
He's probably got looks, he's probably got swag, but you
know what, I see you.

Speaker 3 (04:33):
Right through it. Yeah, because he is a piece of garbage.

Speaker 1 (04:36):
The final straw was during Granddad's speech where he accidentally
called X by my grandma's name, and I walked out,
what heartless?

Speaker 3 (04:47):
What in the world.

Speaker 1 (04:49):
When I waited in the bar area, a staff member
said she recognized a lot of us, and I told her, yeah,
for Grandma's wake, this is my granddad marrying her ministress
at the same venue. After thinking I was choking at first,
the nice lady offered me the rest of the glasses
of champagne that didn't get used during the toast, as
they would be tossed out anyway, and I gladly took
them off her hands. Overall, I've never been so mortified

(05:12):
in my life. Not only was the whole thing incredibly tacky,
but my Grandma would have been rolling in her grave.
My uncle managed to escape this circus living abroad, but
when he came to visit, they brought out a slice
of wedding cake. They saved it English wedding cake keeps
for months, and he later told me that when he
left he tossed it out of his car window as

(05:32):
he drove off, hoping they saw him do it. To
add to the tackiness, when Granddad passed, he left X
a statue of Anuti Lady he had actually bought for
my grandma, And when we asked why, it came out
that he bought it for Grandma because it reminded him
of X, and also to remind my grandma that X
was in the picture.

Speaker 3 (05:52):
What is wrong with this guy?

Speaker 2 (05:54):
Is sent from the devil himself? Like I know they
said in the story that Grandma didn't believe in divorce
him getting back at her for not divorcing him.

Speaker 1 (06:02):
Did he like want a divorce and she was like,
I won't do it. So he's like, all right, I
guess I'm just going to parade a mistress around you.

Speaker 3 (06:09):
Until you are no longer one with this mortal plane.

Speaker 2 (06:14):
That's what it sounds like.

Speaker 3 (06:15):
What a mess of a situation that hurts my brain.

Speaker 1 (06:18):
Sadly, all this crap runs in the family, as my
dad also has a few mistresses.

Speaker 3 (06:23):
Well, apple doesn't fall far from the tree.

Speaker 2 (06:25):
Oh my gosh.

Speaker 1 (06:27):
Luckily I was mostly kept from all that as my
mom divorced him when she found out I have a
wonderful boyfriend who luckily hasn't run a mile given my
insane family story, and we plan on getting married. The
family joke is that we should marry at the same
hotel as the one used for Grandma's wake and then
Granddad's wedding, as we might get a family discount on

(06:48):
the third event. But I think I have too much
PTSD associated with the place. I hope you all enjoyed
my family wedding drama story, and hopefully this gets red
and we do have an update.

Speaker 2 (06:59):
We have a update.

Speaker 1 (07:00):
I hope the update is that you did get married
there and they gave it you the whole thing for free.

Speaker 2 (07:05):
I think he's gonna talk about the inheritance and how
X got most of it.

Speaker 1 (07:08):
Oh yeah, that's actually such a good point. Who's getting
a nice car, who's getting all the assets?

Speaker 2 (07:13):
And the dad's gonna be mad because he was like,
I'm your son, why didn't you give me this?

Speaker 3 (07:17):
Well, let's get into it.

Speaker 1 (07:18):
To add to this whole dumpster fire, when my granddad passed,
he asked for half of his ashes to be scattered
where my Grandma was scattered and half in the place
he used to take his mistress for dirty weekend trips. Dude,
I'd scatter his ashes in the still water. I'd scatter
his ashes in a stagnant pond.

Speaker 2 (07:37):
Where the mosquitoes are breeding with.

Speaker 3 (07:38):
A scum is, because he'd be right at home there.

Speaker 2 (07:41):
Oh my gosh, and.

Speaker 1 (07:43):
We have a second update. Thank you for all of
the comments. For those asking X is still in the
family picture, we have relatives that suck up to her
in the hope that when she passes she'll leave them money,
which means she's at every dang family event. My other
half suggests finding a way to get pen I think
at the disco's I write sins not tragedies, subtly playing

(08:03):
in the background at every event she's at due to
the first verse, and see if anyone picks up on it.
Update number three thought I would mention there is a
happy ending to this story, thank god. Where When my
granddad passed, I refused to go to the funeral and
instead went to a bar with one of my best
friends and.

Speaker 4 (08:21):
Got a little intoxicated on.

Speaker 1 (08:23):
Two for one pictures Long Island iced tea while relatives
who secretly agreed with me gave me the details from
the funeral, like the celebrant saying what a wonderful family
man my granddad was, and my uncle turning to my
dad and whispering quote, I think we've turned up at
the wrong funeral. However, other family members kept trying to
pressure me to go and gave me grief afterwards for

(08:45):
not going. So my male best friend at the time
invited me for a week to stay with him on
the other side of the country.

Speaker 3 (08:52):
We hadn't liked each other for.

Speaker 2 (08:54):
A while, but never acted on it because ew, we're
like best friends.

Speaker 3 (08:58):
That'd be weird. But I need an escape and gladly
took him up on it.

Speaker 1 (09:02):
From that week, we ended up being a couple, decided
on the last day of my stay, and since then
we've been together for just over a year and a half.

Speaker 2 (09:10):
Congrats.

Speaker 1 (09:11):
We plan on start making marriage preparations once our finances
are better.

Speaker 3 (09:15):
Congratulations. Is it a little silver lining?

Speaker 2 (09:18):
Yes? You know, whatever my grandfather died, he had like
a few wives. It brought together my long lost cousins
and we have had a great relationship ever since. Yeah,
so it was a good.

Speaker 1 (09:27):
Thing sometimes, you know, it's always nice when there's a
silver lining. While karma didn't get my granddad because of
his crappy actions, leading to me not wanting to go
to the funeral and leading me to go hide out
with my best friend now turned boyfriend. It led me
to find my soulmate. So I guess everything happens for
a reason. I love him dearly, and he loves me,
and he helps me to see my self worth and

(09:48):
treats me as an equal in the relationship, which is
something I sadly never saw growing up, witnessing my granddad
and his mistress, and my dad with his mistress, Sometimes
crappy things happened for I guess op, I'm so glad
that you escaped the cycle of the mistresses. But do
you know what I don't want you to escape from?

Speaker 2 (10:07):
Well, what's that?

Speaker 3 (10:08):
From our live streams When we.

Speaker 1 (10:10):
Go live every weekday at three pm PSD on YouTube, Facebook, TikTok,
and Twitch.

Speaker 3 (10:15):
All you gotta do is tap our profile and you
are in.

Speaker 1 (10:18):
And if you're watching this right now, we might even
be live as I speak. But hold on a second,
because we're gonna collect our thoughts, finish the story.

Speaker 2 (10:26):
I'm glad you found someone, and hopefully the grandpa gets
karma wherever he goes. The grandma doesn't.

Speaker 3 (10:34):
In a way.

Speaker 1 (10:34):
You know, his karma was losing out on whatever sort
of beautiful relationship he could have had with his grandchildren
by prioritizing his mistress over his own wife.

Speaker 2 (10:44):
That's true.

Speaker 3 (10:44):
I really want to like emphasize that it's.

Speaker 1 (10:46):
Great that op, after growing up in an environment where
all of these men were just like sort of trash,
that that you found yourself with a great guy. He's
got a good head on his shoulders and supports you.

Speaker 3 (11:00):
Fully, and that's a beautiful thing. So let's see. I
wonder if this ends with them getting married.

Speaker 2 (11:04):
I think so.

Speaker 3 (11:05):
I showed this post to.

Speaker 1 (11:06):
A few of my friends and they said I should
also add in the drama of my dad's mistress turned
girlfriend at grandma's cremation.

Speaker 3 (11:13):
I'll keep it short, but long story short.

Speaker 1 (11:15):
She called up the business number of my granddad's company
to invite herself to the funeral and cremation, even though
she barely knew my grandma. She came up to my
mom at the house we went to the grandparents' house
beforehand before the funeral and wake, and wrapped her in
an uncomfortable and unescapable hug, telling her how sorry she
was for her lost while my mom mouthed at me

(11:38):
what the f. But my mom, being classy aside being
very confused and feeling a little violated that her ex
husband's mistress from the time they were married was pulling
her into uncomfortable hugs, acted like a classy lady and
ignored it. What can I say? A lot of my
family belong in the dumpster fire.

Speaker 2 (11:57):
Oh my god, that is the.

Speaker 1 (11:58):
End of that story. You can say that again, op
dumpster fire. I mean the men. The men in that
family are truly trash, stinky garbage men. I left my
dad's wedding early to go on a vacation.

Speaker 3 (12:14):
With my friends.

Speaker 2 (12:15):
Hey, honeymoon for you too.

Speaker 1 (12:16):
I know that the title makes me seem like a
terrible daughter, but the story needs context. A few weeks ago,
my twenty one female dad got married again. My parents
divorced when I was four, and my mom remarried when
I was nine.

Speaker 2 (12:30):
Not again.

Speaker 1 (12:31):
By the way, this comes from user unfair Tadpole four
to seven on the r slash Okay storytime subreddit. So
I love my stepdad and stepsister. I never understood the
horror stories about step families because my experience was and
still is good. I introduced my stepdad as my dad
and my stepsister as my sister. When my stepdad introduces me,

(12:53):
he always says, and this is my kid. My dad
dated several people in the past and was even engaged
at one point. All of these women and their kids
were similar experiences. I still talked to some of my
dad's ex'es kids with his permission. Kathy was my wake
up call when Dad told me when I was nineteen

(13:13):
at the time and my siblings who were nineteen male
and twenty five female now but seventeen male and twenty
three female then he was dating Kathy. We weren't surprised.
Her husband had passed a year before, and my dad
worked with both of them for about a decade before
the incident. Ooh, he stepped in real quick, didn't he?

Speaker 3 (13:34):
And he said, I'm so sorry to hear about that.

Speaker 1 (13:38):
My dad supported Kathy after the accident and helped with
her two kids, who were just ten and twelve at
the time.

Speaker 2 (13:46):
I bet you just helped with the kids.

Speaker 3 (13:48):
Yeah, I'm trying to help make some new ones.

Speaker 1 (13:50):
Probably a little less than a year after his passing,
Dad told us he and Kathy were romantically involved. We
supported him because he told us that they were serious
and dating with the intent to marry. We met Kathy
and her kids about a week later. My siblings and
I twenty three female, nineteen female, and seventeen male at
the time, got along.

Speaker 3 (14:12):
With all three of her kids.

Speaker 1 (14:15):
Kathy had always wanted a big family but was unable
to have one, so having five kids was amazing for her.
The problem between me and Kathy started about six months later.
She's a helicopter mom and still chooses her kids' outfits
even though they're.

Speaker 3 (14:31):
In high school.

Speaker 2 (14:31):
Now what that's kind of My mom stopped picking out
my outfits in the third grade.

Speaker 1 (14:37):
She's very controlling and extremely conservative. On the other hand,
my siblings and I were raised with the one rule
being don't let the hospital, police, or school call us.
My parents were extremely lenient and let us get into trouble.
We have a very casual and honest relationship with our parents.
My parents knew when we were experimenting at that age

(15:01):
and told us to make sure we did so responsibly
and with limits. It was common for us to spend
weekends at parties and friends' houses. This was a problem
for Kathy. From the start, we lived with my mom
and saw my dad every other weekend, with holidays being split.
The system worked. I was and am in a nearby university,

(15:22):
my sister was in an internship, and my brother in
a nearby high school. With both my brother and I
working part time. Since we were busy with academics and
friends and work, we saw my dad very little. This
ruined her image of her big, happy family. She started
picking fights with us over this, but we explained that
we were older than her kids and had lives of

(15:43):
our own to run.

Speaker 3 (15:44):
At this point, she was not having this.

Speaker 1 (15:47):
We made an effort to have dinner with them once
a week, but I worked late hours, so I saw
them less. Kathy had been the reason why my dad
missed my birthday for three years.

Speaker 4 (15:58):
What hmmm.

Speaker 1 (16:00):
It was tradition ever since the divorce that he would
take us for breakfast for our birthdays and sushi for
big events or moments in our lives. My dad missed
my nineteenth birthday because Kathy needed him, my twentieth birthday
because he had to go with her and her kids
to her late husband's mother's farm, and my twenty first
for the same reason why Are you gotta go to

(16:22):
the farm it's your daughter's birthday.

Speaker 2 (16:24):
Yeah, unless she likes the farm. Who does Kathy op
Op ain't at the farm?

Speaker 4 (16:31):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (16:31):
True.

Speaker 1 (16:31):
He also missed my high school graduation, my first job,
and me getting into university.

Speaker 2 (16:36):
That's three sushi dinners you owe her because of Kathy. Yeah,
she's super controlling.

Speaker 4 (16:42):
Dude.

Speaker 3 (16:42):
Why is she doing this?

Speaker 2 (16:44):
Because she put a shot collar on him because he
likes it, and she just anytimes he tries to do anything.

Speaker 3 (16:50):
Everybody has their own quer astera.

Speaker 2 (16:52):
Dude, I'm sorry. You know this man likes being told
what to do. Kathy's telling him.

Speaker 3 (16:57):
What to do.

Speaker 2 (16:57):
Well, I mean that's one thing, but you know, I
feel like the vibe from how they kind of let
their kids be. That was Dad and the first mom.
I just feel like.

Speaker 1 (17:07):
A parent who would let their kids exercise freedom would
sort of also value their own.

Speaker 2 (17:12):
Maybe he had too much freedom and he likes some guidelines.
He likes being told where to go. Hey, people change, right,
People are changing.

Speaker 1 (17:19):
I don't hold any of this against him, because I
understand that he thought he needed to build a relationship
with Kathy, and no, I haven't gotten an apology. Things
with Kathy got so bad that I had to go
back to therapy. Just being around her and her kids
for hours on end would send me into panic attacks.

Speaker 3 (17:38):
I tried. I picked up her kids from school.

Speaker 1 (17:41):
I took them out for ice cream and skating, things
that my siblings and I would do. I even got
them things that they wanted and took them places that
they really wanted to go. But things only got worse
when Kathy found out I was BY. I don't hide it,
but I also don't pronounce it to the world because
I don't think it should be anyone's business. Her daughter
had been talking about the LGBT community and I offhandedly

(18:04):
mentioned that I am BY. She asked questions and I
answered they were normal questions that I have gotten a
hundred times in the past. Kathy was livid when she
found out.

Speaker 2 (18:14):
Like whenever too vjj's meat which VIJJ forms into a
pete to receive the.

Speaker 3 (18:20):
Other VJJ like a THEJJ vultron.

Speaker 2 (18:23):
Yeah, when two vjj's meat, which one insimiates the other one.

Speaker 3 (18:26):
They just need tools. They need their tools. They need
to acquire two.

Speaker 2 (18:30):
One two of thejj's meat, which one springs out the
sauce which one's the dominant one. Yeah, I think they
like wrestle. During all of this, I had a serious
talk with my dad. He understood that I wasn't doing
well mentally and needed to set my boundaries. We agreed
that I would only attend birthdays and special occasions and
only for a few hours. I still spoke to him

(18:52):
on the phone at least three times a week. Kathy
was understandably angry. Despite this, the relationship continued to I
support my dad's relationship because Kathy is good for him.
Since dating her, he's been more active, healthier, calmer, and happier,
probably because Kathy told him to do that. Be more outhier,
be more happy, be more calm.

Speaker 1 (19:14):
Well, sometimes people need like a guiding force in their
life from their partner. You know, some people want to
maintain their independence absolutely, and some people are totally open
to being like Hugh.

Speaker 3 (19:24):
Babe, whatud I do help?

Speaker 1 (19:26):
It should be for those kind of things, and not
like am I allowed to like be at my daughter's
birthday because low key It's like they were, Oh, we
had to go to the farm. We had to go
to the farm. I feel like it's Kathy scheduling that
stuff on purpose. So that they're not around during his birthday.
All of those positives being why when he asked us
a little less than a year ago for our blessing
to propose, my siblings and I were happy to give it.

(19:49):
The engagement was sweet, and everyone fell into wedding planning quickly.
My dad and I spoke about my role in the wedding.
My brother and new stepbrother would be his groomsmen, while
my stepsister be a bridesmaid. My sister and I would
walk down the aisle together, but didn't have any role
beyond that. The date they chose fell on a long
weekend where my best friend Violet was celebrating her twenty

(20:10):
first birthday. I spent my twenty first with my friends,
staying with my mom and stepdad. They had moved to
a beach house earlier that year because they both were
from home and were tired of the city. All the
kids were in university or working, so it was a
good time to do so. Since my friends are close
with my mom and stepdad, I asked that we spend
a week there. My best friend Nina and her boyfriend

(20:33):
Chris asked that we do the same for their twenty
first birthdays.

Speaker 3 (20:36):
And my mom agreed because she's adopted them as her own.

Speaker 1 (20:40):
When Violet asked if we could go for her birthday,
I had to tell her that it would have to
wait until the following weekend because of the wedding. The
wedding was Saturday, and I knew I wouldn't have the
energy to do the three hour drive on Sunday, but
because of exams, we decided to move it a bit
more than a week when we didn't have classes or exams.

Speaker 3 (20:58):
Bry a solid idea.

Speaker 1 (21:00):
I mentioned this to my dad when telling him about
my day and my summer plans. My dad suggested that
because of our prior arrangement, I could attend the wedding
ceremony and be in the family pictures and then leave.

Speaker 3 (21:12):
I told him that it was fine. I wanted to
spend the day with him.

Speaker 1 (21:15):
It came out that Kathy was worried about me drinking
at the wedding.

Speaker 3 (21:19):
At Kathy's just a worry work.

Speaker 2 (21:20):
Kathy's the extremely conservative person.

Speaker 1 (21:23):
Oh Kathy, Kathy, Kathy, I do drink on occasion, but
rarely more than his normal for a university student. Kathy
also thought that my suit a dark gray with a
floral emerald shirt would ruin the photographs. I don't care
that my dad didn't argue with her. At this point,
I would do anything to avoid tension in fights, so

(21:43):
I reluctantly agreed. The day of the wedding came and
everything went as planned. I smiled and cried through the ceremony.
I smiled for the photos I was asked to be in.
I then said goodbye and left. I picked up my
friends and their boyfriends, and the five of us went
away for the rest of the law On weekend, we
had an incredible weekend at the beach, swimming, tanning, hiking,

(22:05):
doing wine tastings, all that good stuff. I noticed calls
and texts from people, but didn't check it because I
honestly didn't have the time. I was also enjoying myself
too much. When I came back that Tuesday, I finally
checked my phone. There had been drama at the wedding.

Speaker 3 (22:22):
Of course, my dad's friends had been confused.

Speaker 1 (22:26):
Then I left, my dad explained the situation, and his
friends got angry. They're all like aunts and uncles to me,
and from what I've heard, my dad's best friend called
Kathy out in front of everyone. Her speech at dinner
had gone something along the lines of quote, look at
my perfect little family here. My dad's friend then apparently
said something along the lines of you are so lucky

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to have these three kids in your family of seven,
not six in his speech. Now everyone is attacking Kathy
for excluding me. People went into her social media and
started to point out, yeah, that I was nowhere to
be found while my siblings were. Kathy wants me to
make a post explaining that it was my decision and
that I hate photos, which is why I'm not in them.

(23:11):
I don't even have social media. My dad and I
have agreed that I should keep my distance for the
time being until everything is settled down. But it's been
a few weeks and I miss my dad, but Kathy's
refusing to.

Speaker 3 (23:23):
Let me see him.

Speaker 1 (23:24):
Hey, did you know that your dad can actually make
choices for himself because he's a grown man.

Speaker 2 (23:29):
Yeah? Did you know that your dad could have chose
not to marry Kathy but he still did for some
wacko reasons.

Speaker 3 (23:34):
Well, and it wasn't wacko right.

Speaker 1 (23:36):
Op said that she noticed a lot of positive changes
in her dad, like when they got together, but at
the same time.

Speaker 2 (23:42):
Kathy is stopping him from seeing his kids.

Speaker 1 (23:45):
He's trying to prevent him from having a relationship with her,
which is unacceptable, and you need to start pressing him
to tell him, Hey, you need to put your foot
down with Kathy that it's not her place to tell
you how to have a relationship with your own daughter. Yeah,
my brother and sister say that I should just apologize,
while my friends are telling me that it doesn't matter.
Am I the one in the wrong here when one
my dad suggested it and two Kathy didn't want me

(24:08):
at the wedding in the first place. And we do
have an update, I would say you're not the a
hole clearly because you had worked this out ahead of
time with your dad. If anything, your dad should be
the one stepping out in front of this. And see,
this was my idea. It was just to make everyone.
You know, it was a compromise to make it work
for everyone. Yeah, it needs to start taking an active

(24:30):
role in you know, in your life, in making these
things clear.

Speaker 3 (24:33):
Let's go into the update.

Speaker 1 (24:34):
It has been a few months since my last post
and there have been a few developments. First off, I
want to answer some questions and explain a few things
from the comments on my first post. A lot of
people are saying that Kathy can't be good for my dad,
which I agree with. But my dad was a workaholic
before they started dating. Except for the occasional visit to friends,
he was basically a hermit. Kathy gets him out of

(24:57):
the house and active. He's part of the community and
involved at the school. He also never looked after himself,
but now he does. That is why I say she's
good for him. She takes care of him and makes
him take care of himself as to abiding by her
wishes and making a post. I have no social media
weird for somebody my age, but I just don't have

(25:17):
any social media besides Reddit, which I barely use, and Tumblr.
I don't see the use in making an account, be
it Instagram or Facebook, just to make a post for her.
Don't worry, though, my mom has been very honest with
anyone who reached out to ask her what happened. From
what I've heard, my dad has been getting quite a
bit of flak for his actions or.

Speaker 3 (25:38):
What I would call in action boom get roasted.

Speaker 1 (25:42):
I have decided to go no contact with my dad
and Kathy and her kids. I notified my dad and
he wasn't very happy about it. I explained that everyone
can calm down for a few months and then we
can reevaluate everything.

Speaker 2 (25:55):
Okay, so that's good. It's not permanent, permanent, it's just
for now, no cost, it's.

Speaker 1 (25:59):
Temporary, and maybe that'll make your dad understand the value
of a relationship with his daughter, and he'll wake up
and say, I can't let my wife bully me about
seeing my children. I had full intentions on contacting him
again after a year, but I no longer do.

Speaker 3 (26:15):
Oh what did Dad do?

Speaker 2 (26:16):
Oh? God?

Speaker 1 (26:17):
He texts me every now and again, just saying that
he loves me and good luck with my exams. Kathy's
kids have reached out through my siblings for help with
essays and projects. I helped as much as I could
without actually speaking to them. They didn't do anything wrong
except keep their mouths shut, so I'm trying to be
as lenient as possible to them. My brother and sister
are supporting me. They still see my dad and Kathy

(26:39):
and plan on spending Christmas with that side of the family.
I'm all for it because I will be spending Christmas
with Violet and her family. My brother and sister update
me every now and again when somebody gives my dad
flack or if something big happens like my stepbrother break
in his arm. My mom and stepdad have been really
supportive of my decision as well. They don't bring up

(26:59):
what happen happened unless I do, and they don't engage
with anyone asking questions online. Whenever someone asks something in person,
they're more than happy to tell them the entire story. Though,
on a happy note, I actually got married. Oh wow, congratulations.
This isn't really the point of this post, but I
think context is necessary and I like saying it.

Speaker 4 (27:20):
So.

Speaker 1 (27:20):
Shortly after the last post, I met a guy and
we started dating. One thing led to another, which led
to jealousy, and Violet and I admitted that we loved
each other for years but didn't want to ruin our friendship.
We broke up with our boyfriends and have been together since.
We've been friends for over a decade, and once we
were dating, we realized that we've been doing couple things

(27:42):
for so many years that we were technically dating without
realizing it. We were out with friends one night and
just thought why not. We got a priest and with
our closest five friends as witnesses. We got married in
our local church and went out to have drinks after
for our celebration. We didn't tell anyone until a week later.
Kathy moved in with me and my siblings until me,

(28:03):
Kathy and Nina and Chris got an apartment, which we love.
It's been a roller coaster from there. Our parents are
happy for us, even if they demand we have a
proper wedding that they can attend.

Speaker 3 (28:14):
Isn't Kathy the mother in law?

Speaker 2 (28:16):
Yeah? Yeah, yeah, the crazy conservative mother in law.

Speaker 3 (28:19):
Moved in with them.

Speaker 1 (28:20):
Kathy moved in with me and my siblings until me,
Kathy and Nina and Chris got an apartment.

Speaker 3 (28:24):
Kathy cannot be.

Speaker 2 (28:25):
I think he's a different person.

Speaker 3 (28:26):
It's got to be a different yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (28:29):
Different death keviy. I think Kathy's one of OPI's friends.

Speaker 3 (28:33):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (28:33):
It's been a roller coaster from there. Our parents are
happy for us, even if they demand we have a
proper wedding that they can attend. My sister told my
dad and he called. I was out of the room
when he did, and Violet answered. By the time I
walked into the room, she was yelling at him, telling
my dad, you treated her like a coat that you
could use and put away whenever you want. I'm treating

(28:54):
her how she deserves to be treated, trying to make
up for your parenting. I've cleaned up the language quite
a bit, but it made me cry, and I couldn't
love anyone more than I loved her. In that moment,
I really fell even more in love with her.

Speaker 3 (29:07):
And she's got your.

Speaker 2 (29:07):
Back, dang you and Violet. Yeah, and she's wearing that
coat every single day.

Speaker 1 (29:12):
She's like, I don't even take it off when it's
hot outside. Violet has helped me stay no contact with
my dad throughout this ordeal. She's also been helping me
work through my initial guilt overgoing no contact with him.
She's been making sure that I'm attending therapy and working
through my emotions. I've done a lot of work, and
I've come to a lot of realizations that I can't

(29:33):
make everything perfect by pretending that it is. One of
the major things has been the wedding. Every girl wants
their dad to walk them down the aisle, and Violet
simply said that our moms would walk us down the aisle.
Since she doesn't have a dad. She's been helping me
come to terms with my treatment over the years, and
it's honestly been a fantastic feeling. I feel lighter and

(29:53):
happier and like I can see everything more clearly. My
siblings have told me that Kathy is cursing us high
and low to anyone and still listening to her. My
dad's friends are extremely conservative, but they've all commented their
congratulations on my mom's post. Kathy also apparently told my
dad that I was never allowed in their house again
and would only be forgiven if I got a divorce.

(30:14):
I'm not planning on it, but you know what I
want y'all to plan on. Well's joining us when we
go live every weekday at three pm PST on YouTube, Facebook, TikTok,
and Twitch. All you gotta do is tap our profile
and you're in. Other than that, my university graduation is
coming up. My university runs from February to November violent
and I can't wait to start our postgrads and maybe

(30:35):
in a few years have an actual wedding. Kathy can
screw it, and my dad can go along with her
until he realizes that he should be protecting his daughter instead.
Of leaving her in harm's way. I'll be keeping this
account for a while because Violet wants to see what
people say, but after that I'll probably delete it. Thank
you everyone for all the support you've given me. Who
knew the internet could actually be helpful?

Speaker 2 (30:57):
Now we do.

Speaker 3 (30:58):
We're on the Internet and we're helpful our personas on
the internet.

Speaker 2 (31:01):
I just realized that.

Speaker 3 (31:02):
But that's the end of that story.

Speaker 2 (31:04):
My cousin calls drama at my wedding, so I broke
all ties with my dad's side of the family.

Speaker 5 (31:10):
One bad apple can spoil the whole bunch.

Speaker 2 (31:12):
Hello there. It all started a few years back, when
I didn't even know when and who I was gonna marry.
This cousin of mine from my father's side, let's call
her Lisa, got married to a guy I really didn't like.
Don't hate me for it. Later you'll realize no one
in the family likes him. Let's call him for Robert.

(31:33):
By the way, this comes from Enough Carbo twenty seven
to sixty nine of the rsish Okay Storytime Subred. So still,
my cousin married him, and a few years later they
came to live near us. Now, my father a really
nice person helped them settle down completely because of course
they were new to the place. Now, this guy thinks
he owns us all because we live a slow life

(31:56):
and he came from the big hurry city area.

Speaker 5 (31:58):
He's all about that there selling bustle.

Speaker 2 (32:01):
According to him, we don't know how to live because
we don't show off and have big fancy things in
our houses. For all these years, he has made fun
of all the cousins who live nearby by, passing comments
and whatnot. We all stayed quiet because of course he
is the son in law of the family. Now, for
all three to four years he has been feeding little

(32:23):
lies and micro pointing out every single mistake, all details
to my cousin. Ultimately, my cousin also started resenting us
all but didn't show up, but you can feel it
from their speaking meeting and whatnot. In between all this,
Lisa had a fight with my other cousin. That's a
whole nother story to tell, but let's just focus here now.

(32:46):
This fight came to a point where these two cousins,
who I love wholeheartedly, stopped talking to each other. Now
comes my wedding preparations and the real drama, the real drama.
Lisa and Robert started showing their real colors my engagement day.
She stayed annoyed the whole time and just smiled at

(33:08):
the pictures. My fiance and I were having dinner and
she and her husband sent a few feet from us
and totally ignored us, not even looking at us. Yeah,
they're probably like someone else is getting attention. We can't
get them.

Speaker 3 (33:21):
We would like all the attention, please, Just to be clear.

Speaker 2 (33:23):
We were the only people in the room. Only I
know how awkward it was to sit there when my
fiance had no idea why she's behaving like this. After
a few days, I texted her asking what was wrong
because I love her and wanted her to be a
part of my wedding like I was at hers working
as a bridesmaid full time, from shopping to taking ten

(33:45):
days off non paid leave, which I couldn't afford. So
she texted back saying she didn't think I would do
this to her. I was taken by surprise. She told
me that she had come by my house fifteen days
ago and I was at home to receive her. How
could you not be there fifteen days ago to receive her?
A backstory that day, I had my salon appointment for

(34:07):
my engagement, which I was late, so I stayed at
my other cousin's home, whom she had a fight with.
According to Lisa, I was partying with my other cousin
and did not give her enough attention. I knew it
was about attention. I freaking called that, Yeah, these are a
little attention babies. I was at the salon appointment. I

(34:28):
kept saying, I'm sorry, but I can't choose between two
people I love and I want both people at my wedding.
But she came to my parents' house crying and all
complaining to my parents about look at her, look what
she's doing to her. I listened to all the crap
and let her speak her mind so she would calm down.
But I was wrong. After that, she made herself distanced

(34:49):
from me and my family, telling each detail to their
mother and in her city. Now her mother went after
my father. They are so helpful and considerate, but in reality,
all she did was lie to her mother that she's
visiting us every other day, which she is not. Lisa
and her mother called me for shopping and to do

(35:09):
some damage control. I went happily, but oh boy, I
came back crying after three days, three days of shopping,
A three days of war, man three, after three days
of shopping, I'd be crying too. I was walking the
Mummy and I saw a part where they were like
they were at war for seven years, And I'm like,
how can you be constantly at war for seven straight years?

(35:32):
How do you eat? How do you blah blah blah
blah blah blah. Like I was like overthinking, like twenty
four to seven, seven years to the dragon Emperor, Yeah,
something like that. Yeah, a scorpion one.

Speaker 3 (35:41):
A scorpion one, the scorpion king to the Mummy too.

Speaker 2 (35:45):
One. They taunted me the whole time, didn't let me
shop what I wanted for my wedding. They left me
in the car alone when I had a fever and
was hungry to check on some garage sales.

Speaker 1 (35:56):
Oh, you were sick and tired, and they ditched you
for garage sale and you're shopping for your own wedding.

Speaker 3 (36:01):
These people suck. Now.

Speaker 2 (36:03):
Mother of Lisa came a few days before the wedding,
and the whole time she kept on complaining about her pain.
And now her daughter was all alone with no relatives
in the city when all we did was call her.
She didn't take their call and told her we're not
going to give her enough attention. I am the bride.
I should be crying for attention. Lisa was talking through

(36:24):
text this whole time to me very nicely. She's lying.
She's like, oh, everything's finding out.

Speaker 5 (36:30):
Mother.

Speaker 3 (36:30):
They won't say.

Speaker 2 (36:34):
She's in the room with us, right, Oh, oh it
was you. Oh wow, that's a great impression. Wedding function
starts and guess who is not there? Lisa and her
husband's thinking, Robert. They made such a big deal out
of all of it that they didn't attend one function,
saying she was ill. My aunt Lisa's mother asked my
brother to go to their home, leaving the functions of

(36:55):
the wedding and saying sorry and to bring them to
the venue. Dude, I was fed up with all of
this drama. I was just trying to keep it all
together because this was the last function of me and
my parents' home. Wedding day comes, I got married and
left for my in law's place. My grandfather, who was
really happy about my wedding, asked for a cig after
the rituals. He's not allowed, but he was so dang

(37:18):
happy that he couldn't stop. My aunt came running to
him after I left and started crying, Look what they're
doing to us and her daughter. She made a whole
scene when everyone was supposed to be happy and relieved
that the wedding got over so successfully, and she made
it about herself and her daughter. My father didn't shed
a cheer when I left home, but he cried when

(37:39):
she abruptly took all of her belongings and left, saying
we should feel sorry for making her feel this way.
I cut off all my connections with her and her
daughter after that, though after a couple of years, my
parents and my aunt started talking again, but I couldn't
make myself to forgive them. I cut off all my
ties with them. But please don't cut off ties with thoughts.

(38:00):
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a little bit left of the story. What do you think?
Clearly these people just care about themselves more than they
care about up and especially given the context of everything
like what this is like, they catch them smoking a

(38:20):
cigarette and then they're like, let's make a big problem
instead of just like being you know, an adult about it,
and I don't know, having like a side and being like, hey,
I thought we talked about this. I thought you weren't
gonna be smoking, Like you want.

Speaker 3 (38:33):
To blow up the spot at op's wedding. It's like,
I mean, that's.

Speaker 2 (38:37):
About yourself, dude, what thing's wrong with you? And that's
probably a microcosm of much larger issues. Whenever people are
talking about cutting off family like permanently, like you know,
it's used to your prerogative, but I always say to
leave some level of a crack in the door room
for forgiveness.

Speaker 1 (38:53):
Right, because people can change, people can grow and see
like that they you know, have made mistakes, and you know,
when it it comes down to a relationship like parents,
it's like a lot of times, you know, later in
our lives, we can get messed up about it if
we've cut them off and now we can't go back, YadA,
YadA YadA. It's you know, it's a story that's been
told many many times of like I wish I could

(39:15):
have fixed things before they passed. Yea, you know, I
wish I could have fixed things before this, before that, Like,
it's just always.

Speaker 3 (39:21):
Something to be aware of, I guess. But if they're
not going to change, then you know you have no
obligation to do.

Speaker 2 (39:26):
So you've done your part by being the best version
of yourself and they didn't. Salsa was the only bridesmaid
I had because I'm an introvert and the pain of
getting ready alone at every event for the wedding was
unbearable when I didn't have anyone to help me. It
keeps me awake. Still, where did I go wrong on
my important day? Because I love the most and shared everything.
What didn't even show up for me?

Speaker 3 (39:47):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (39:47):
That didn't even makes it worse. That was just the
cherry on top of this dog pile of crap.

Speaker 3 (39:52):
It's an unfortunate situation, but hopefully bridges can be rebuilt.

Speaker 2 (39:55):
Yeah, and hopefully your honeymoon was nice. Hopefully your honeymoon
was the greatest. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (39:59):
I wish you your partner nothing but success in the future.
I love, but that is the end of that story.

Speaker 4 (40:04):
My wife and sister don't get along, and I don't
know what to do.

Speaker 5 (40:08):
Break up with both of.

Speaker 4 (40:09):
Those Okay, Yeah, my wife twenty seven and I twenty six,
have been together for five years now, and I just
got married earlier this spring. I guess I'll start from
the beginning. At first, my mom and my sister did
not like my wife at all. She's from Russia, so
to most Americans she can come off as a bit
cold and uninviting, even to me at first. As I

(40:30):
got to know her, though, she really showed me her
fun and goofy side oh and opened up to me
a lot, as she eventually did with my family as
they got to know each other. By the way, this
comes from Tumbleweed Live four three three on the Okay
storretime Severed It. So our relationship, as most has definitely
been anything but perfect. One thing I noticed was that
for the first two years of our relationship we had

(40:51):
hardly had a single fight, which I thought was a
great sign, as none of my relationships had been that
way previously. Still, my family didn't like her, though we
had been living with my parents for most of our relationship.
For those of you that have experienced the same thing,
you know how stressful it can be. We paid rent
and my wife actually ran her business out of the
house in a separate room that she would pay extra for.

(41:11):
My mom would always get upset though, that she wouldn't
clean up the house in her downtime, even if it
was other people's messes. She would also get upset that
my wife wouldn't share her food or cook for other
people when she would make dinners and small things like that.
Although I think it would be nice for my wife
to do these things from time to time, it shouldn't
be expected. Also, in her defense, she was trying to
lose weight and had a very strict diet at the time,

(41:33):
so she had to weigh her food and portion things
out correctly. Groceries are also very expensive where we live,
and we were trying to save up to move out
of the house one day, so that's where the most
arguments between my mom and us would be about. Now
that we've moved out of my house, though the relationship
between my mom and my wife is great, we would
have thought, okay, so it's not issue, no great. I
just wanted to give that context to show how my

(41:54):
wife's relationship is with other people in my family. So
you can tell me your opinions on who was in
the wrong here or what to do Now Onto the
topic of my sister and my wife. As I said before,
my sister never really liked my wife that much. They
just didn't click, which is totally fine with me. I
don't need them to be besties, but to get along
when they're around each other would be nice. I'm going

(42:16):
to fast forward to about a year ago. Six months
before our marriage. We had been moved out of the
house for almost a year now. We had also picked
up a husky puppy as soon as we moved in
Bad Idea. Little did we know that huskies were one
of the most difficult breeds to deal with. So moving
into a half finished house my grandma owns it and
I've been renovating it for about six months before we
moved in, and my wife pretty much raising the pup

(42:38):
on her own since she worked from home at the time,
was causing a lot of stress in our lives. I'm
also very OCD and my wife was not picking up
after herself. Now I was seeing what my mom was
talking about, and this was causing a lot of stress
for me having to pick up after her constantly. I
felt like I had to be my mom telling her
what to do all the time, and I ate it it.
So after the puppy could be on his own. About

(42:59):
six months after we got him, my wife decided to
pick up a job working for a boat tour company
so she could get out of the house from it.
I told her to go for it. It was about
an hour and a half drive, and some days she
would get off at nine pm and after work the
next day at five am, so she would stay the
night at a friend's house near her work on those
nights long hours scotty jeez. Of course I was hesitant

(43:22):
about this at first because I have been cheated on
in the past, but I decided that if I couldn't
trust her, then she wasn't the one for me.

Speaker 3 (43:28):
I mean, yeah, you're married.

Speaker 5 (43:29):
At this point, you're married, You're full married.

Speaker 2 (43:32):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (43:32):
I should also note that my wife is much more
extroverted than me in some ways. She loves to go
out and dance with her friends, where I would much
prefer staying home for the night. We both are very outdoorsy, though,
so we would bond in that way, going camping, hiking,
and to the beach. But every time she asked me
to go out and dance with her and hang out
with her friends, I would say no, which I later
realized was just not very considerate on my end and

(43:54):
probably showed her that I hadn't had as much interest
in her as I did before. Fast forward this year,
one week for the wedding.

Speaker 3 (44:00):
They're not married yet.

Speaker 5 (44:01):
Oh.

Speaker 4 (44:02):
Things were a bit stressful between us due to planning
it completely by ourselves and having a pretty tight budget
to make the stream wedding happen that wouldn't put us
in debt or anything like that. My sister calls me
and says she needs to talk to me one on one.
We meet up. She tells me that she heard a
rumor that my wife cheated on me with someone at work.

Speaker 5 (44:21):
Well, I was not expecting.

Speaker 4 (44:24):
I didn't expect that to be Yeah, she doesn't like her.

Speaker 5 (44:28):
Then says, I'm calling cheating.

Speaker 4 (44:30):
You got it, you nailed it.

Speaker 5 (44:31):
We don't know if it's true.

Speaker 4 (44:33):
You don't know it's true. There's a lot room debt.
She shows me the guy. We both cry. I drive
home and confront my wife about it. My wife tells
me nothing happened other than some harmless flirting. The fact
that flirting happened is not looking good for you girls.

Speaker 6 (44:47):
It's the fact that there's a rumor about you cheating
on someone and you're like, oh, it flirted.

Speaker 5 (44:52):
I only flirted. Yeah, so there is something that happened.

Speaker 4 (44:56):
Which I can't blame her for as I have done
the same before and I during our rough patches. Okay,
this guy she supposedly cheated on me with also has
a wife and three kids. Not that that stopped anyone before,
but this is a small town and there are no
cheap motels or anything like that to stay.

Speaker 3 (45:13):
For the night.

Speaker 4 (45:13):
I'm not saying they couldn't pull it off, but to
do it at his home would be unlikely, or at
a hotel would be unlikely. Then I tell my close
friends about it to get their opinions on the situation.
One of them calls me and tells me that he
would bet that it is true, and tells me a
story I've never heard before. One day, my wife got
wasted and texted him to come over and completely came

(45:34):
on to him.

Speaker 5 (45:35):
WHOA okay, And.

Speaker 4 (45:37):
He came over. She's like come over and he was like, okay.

Speaker 5 (45:39):
Yeah, I was making out with your wife. And then
I realized she was cheating on.

Speaker 4 (45:43):
You, cheating on you, and I wouldn't do that to
my best friend. So we kissed a little bit more,
and I said, stop.

Speaker 6 (45:47):
If one thing to cheat on a partner, to cheat
on them with their friend, Yeah, like a whole other
level of disrespect.

Speaker 4 (45:52):
Messeda Luckily I keep my circle close, and he refused
and sent her.

Speaker 5 (45:56):
On her way only after a couple kisses.

Speaker 4 (45:58):
Yeah, just a couple of smooth He said he he
never told me about it because he didn't want it
to ruin mine in his relationship. I was his best
friend here. I thanked him for telling me. Now I'm
frickin pissed. I knew she was lying. I confronted her
about it, and she admitted to what my friend had
told me, but still denied the rumor my sister had heard.
Obviously she had to, as this was coming directly from
my friend and not some rumor he had heard. I

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left and stayed the night at my sister's to give
us both some time to think. Now, I know what
you're all probably thinking at this point. I would be
stupid to stay with her. She's a cheater. I might
have no self esteem, but I like to try to
put myself in other people's perspectives. At the time, A
boat of these things supposedly happening. I was almost completely
neglecting her, not truly showing my love for her, and

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not going out of my way to make her feel special.
She'd always done so for me, and I still loved her.
The thing is, if what happened was you were neglecting her,
she cheated on you and then came to you and said,
oh my god, this happened. Let's figure out what we
need to do to fix our relationship. That's a different story,
but it seems like you were being neglectful. She cheated
on you, went about her day, and then you found out,

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and she was like, Nope, didn't do that. Couldn't be me.

Speaker 6 (47:04):
But I mean, it's still not confirmed if that is true,
but she is confirmed that she did try to.

Speaker 5 (47:08):
Chan yes with his friend. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (47:09):
The next day I came back home and we talked.
The wedding was in a week. I had family from
all over flying in. We had all this money put
into the wedding that there's no way we could refund.
My wife was doing everything she could to make it
up to me. She apologized to my sister, to my
friend that she came on to. She got ahold of
the guy that she supposedly cheated on me with and
let him know of the situation. He texted me to

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deny the accusations, though that meant little since he had
a wife and three kids, he had every reason to
deny it. Yes, she even came to work with me
that day and genuinely helped me finish my job. I
have my own business that's very labor intensive and not
easy by any means. I was still unsure, but she
was taking all the right steps towards making things better
between us. I decided to go through with the ceremony

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but not sign any papers since we had so much time, money,
and family coming out to see us, and their money
as well. Our wedding was almost.

Speaker 5 (47:58):
Perfect besides the facts you tried to cheat it on him.

Speaker 4 (48:03):
Everything went beautiful until the next day we got a
text from the person watching our dog to let us
know that he had stayed nia truck and passed shut up.
I loved that dog like a son. It had taken
us so much time and energy to get him to
where he was, and although he wasn't as behaved as
I would have liked him to be, we had an
unbreakable bond. This broke us me, especially given what I

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had just gone through. In a way, though, I think
it allowed us to bond more through the grief and
kind of forget what happened prior to the wedding, not completely.
As I told her my conditions as to what I
would be comfortable with her doing for us to possibly
sign papers and be legally married. One day, she quit
her job working on the boats her suggestion, and went
back to working at the house. She didn't go out
late with her friends anymore. She really started to help

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around the house more, and we had a lot of
difficult conversations to get to where we are now post wedding.
I would say, despite my beautiful little boy passing, our
relationship had been better than it had been in a
long time. I decided it was time to sign the papers.
I didn't know for sure whether she had actually cheated
on me. This is a small town, after all, and
rumors start very easily.

Speaker 5 (49:05):
Well, she tried to, and that's confirmed.

Speaker 4 (49:07):
Yeah, regardless of whether she actually went through it.

Speaker 5 (49:09):
She tried. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (49:10):
My wife isn't from here, and she's very beautiful. I
could definitely see the other girls seeing her flirt a
bit with some guy and starting a rumor about them
hooking up. I wasn't discounting the fact that she could
be lying still, but I loved her and forgave her
for it. I said, if I heard about anything happening
ever again, I would leave, no questions asked. She understood.
My sister, however, never forgave her for this. At this point,

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the only people who knew about the situation were her,
my wife, my sister, and a couple of my close friends,
and I intended to keep it that way, as it
was nobody else's business. My sister threatened to tell my family,
as she said she couldn't hold it in anymore because
everyone would ask her why she doesn't like my wife
and she couldn't answer. I was upset at first, but
understood her position, so I told my wife she should

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probably tell them first to get ahead of the situation,
feeling that this is that is not her place at
all to tell them. That is so inappropriate of her,
Like you cannot like your brother's wife, that's fine, but.

Speaker 5 (50:04):
Like, yeah, it's not your to actively.

Speaker 4 (50:06):
Try and ruin the relationship.

Speaker 6 (50:08):
To be able to tell Yeah about something they're deciding
as a couple.

Speaker 5 (50:11):
To work through it, to work through.

Speaker 4 (50:13):
Oh my god, that's actually really annoying.

Speaker 5 (50:14):
But I'm more upset about the dog.

Speaker 4 (50:16):
I'm very that's the worst part of the story.

Speaker 5 (50:18):
Yeah, I'm sad.

Speaker 4 (50:19):
My wife met with my mom and told her everything.
I think she was surprised when my mom forgave her
pretty easily and told her that it wasn't her business
in the first place. There is another dynamic to the situation.
Remember how I told you we live in a small town. Well,
here's a love triangle for you. My sister had an
ex boyfriend before her now husband. They were best friends
before my sister and her husband started dating. Well, obviously

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they aren't friends anymore. Anyways, I still get along with
her ex boyfriend and we hang out every so often.
My wife also happens to get along very well with
his now girlfriend and their friends. She was actually made
of honor at her wedding.

Speaker 5 (50:53):
Oh it's gonna get sticky.

Speaker 4 (50:54):
Yeah, so they get invited to some things that my
sister and her husband are also invited to. My sister's
ex boyfriend and his girlfriend are completely fine with that
at this point, as it's been half a decade since
they broke up, and my sister is married now anyways,
every time they're invited, though, my sister gets upset with
my wife for inviting them, even though my wife gives
her a heads up beforehand that they will be invited

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out of respect. I should also note that my sister
has been a devout Christian as of the last two
years since she married her husband, and he and his
family are all religious as well. I am not religious myself,
but I don't see any issue with it other than
the fact that my sister has become well, let's just
say she's changed a lot since her newfound faith. My
mom and I agree that this change is not for
the better anyway. Oh, that actually adds a lot of

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context into it. If she's the cheating.

Speaker 5 (51:40):
For her.

Speaker 6 (51:42):
Oral judgment, Yeah, cheating because Jesus would not approve anyways.

Speaker 4 (51:47):
To bring it back around, this has been a constant
issue since the wedding. My sister has tried to meet
up with my wife and talk things out, but according
to her, every time they talk things go well, and
my wife f's it up by inviting her ex boyfriend
slash his girlfriend to the same parties they attend. My
sister also claims that my wife is lied to work
on a couple occasions, which is true, but they are

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white lies regarding being busy. When my sister invites her
to church or Bible studies or things of that age,
so's Bible study and she's like, I've got the work.

Speaker 6 (52:18):
Yeah, I need to pick up the dog from the cleaner.
They're like she's dead and we're like, oh, I need
to do something else.

Speaker 4 (52:27):
Ummm, you know it goes. My wife is not religious either,
and we both are pretty agnostic in our faith. By
the way, you should have faith that we will be
live every weekday. I three pmpst on YouTube, just tap
our profile and also Facebook and TikTok. I know that
there's a lot to the story and kind of spiraled
out of control and went more back to my relationship
with my wife. I guess it's been looming over me

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as I'm still uncertain about everything and looking for outside opinions.
But I am open to opinions about it all. Just
please no harsh words or judgment. Thanks everyone. Yeah, it
seems like, I mean, your sister's being kind of super
judgmental and stick in her nose where it doesn't belong,
and she's allowed to be protective of you, but to
the point where she's actively trying to sabotage your relationship.
And you know what you've already discussed with your wife

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in the agreements that you've made. That's too far.

Speaker 3 (53:11):
That's say.

Speaker 4 (53:12):
That's story.

Speaker 6 (53:12):
My brother is getting married, but I think I should
warn his fiance.

Speaker 2 (53:16):
Ooh, it's always a good thing to get right before
you get married, A nice, healthy warning.

Speaker 5 (53:22):
Yeah. I mean, it's how you blessrop her marriage. Yeah,
warn them.

Speaker 6 (53:25):
I twenty two year old female, have a younger brother,
twenty year old male, who started dating his current girlfriend
about a year ago. I have no general problems with her.
She is a sweet girl, seems like she means well
and gets along with the family. Initially I had no
problems with her, and even now I still don't have
any real issues with her. By the way, this comes
from you, Ash remarkable ostroche sixteen on the rt okay

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storytime subreddit. So here's where things get murky from me.
My brother and his girlfriend let's call her Alice, started
dating a couple of months after my brother, let's call
him Bryden, got back from boot camp for the Marine Corpse.
After coming home, he had decided that he wanted to
go on a Mormon mission. This was before he met
his girlfriend. Him and Alice begin dating three months before
he was set to leave on his mission. If you

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don't already know, you're not supposed to date while you're
on your mission. So I worried this would end up
bleeding into his journey.

Speaker 5 (54:13):
For his service to God.

Speaker 6 (54:14):
As a side note, I am not religious, but in
supportive of my family and what they want to believe in.

Speaker 5 (54:18):
Though I don't believe in your code of conduct of
your religion, but at least follow it.

Speaker 3 (54:23):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (54:24):
I'm not religious, but if you're gonna be like, do
it right, lease, do it right?

Speaker 3 (54:28):
Yeah, come on.

Speaker 6 (54:29):
I don't believe in the Mormon Church and do not participate,
but you better win Mormonism.

Speaker 5 (54:33):
My entire family is active Mormon.

Speaker 6 (54:35):
Anyways, I thought they would cool things down once he
left for his mission back in January, but if anything,
it seems things just continued. I wouldn't have an issue
with this, as I don't care about the Mormon Church,
but my brother has made it his mission to force
Alice into the family while he's gone. As I said before,
she's a sweet girl, and they don't have a problem
with her. I guess I feel uncomfortable being forced to
spend time with her at family events when they only

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dated for three months before he left. Brandon pressures my
parents into inviting her to everything, and it's a bit
of a shock when she shows up at intimate family dinners.
So this isn't to say that I would feel the
same way if my brother was home and they were dating.
My issue comes from being in a completely different county
supposed to be somewhat isolated from what's happening outside of
his mission. I think from him being in a completely
different I think they meant countries. Yeah, My thing is

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he should have just stayed home. He's been gone less
than a year and he's talking about leaving his mission
early so he could come home and marry Alice. He
just worries me a bit because she is such a
sweet girl.

Speaker 5 (55:27):
And I know my brother and he isn't the nicest person.

Speaker 6 (55:30):
He bullied me all growing up, and I figured he
would grow out of it when he got older and matured.
That's what I thought. It feels like he's only got demeanor.
He doesn't treat my family well, But I seem to
be the only one that stands up to him, while
everyone else just seemingly ignores him, which just enables his behavior.
He will be belittling me or my younger brother, and
no one will say anything. The only time they speak
up is when I get frustrated and set my boundary

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with him and they tell me I should calm down.

Speaker 5 (55:52):
He's just like that. It's very frustrating.

Speaker 6 (55:54):
I guess my feelings are more revolved around my brother
and our relationship more than Alice and her as a person.
My mom told me that he's basically planning his wedding
while he's on his mission, and he will text her
and tell her to look into wedding stuff when he
should be focusing on his mission. She's made it sound
as though he feels he will come home and be
entitled to their dream wedding. My parents aren't going to
take care of and pay for everything. My parents only

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covered the venue for my wedding as well as my
older sister, so I'm not sure where he's getting this idea.

Speaker 5 (56:20):
The venues, you know, it's spent.

Speaker 3 (56:22):
A sizable chunk. It's not everything, though, but it's a lot.

Speaker 6 (56:26):
Yeah, he tells her that he's going to come home
get married and buy a house. He doesn't even have
a car, and maybe his savings that I don't know
about to my knowledge, but he doesn't have a big
savings account, which makes my mom believe that he's going
to expect them to help him. For some additional context
and possibly why this upsets me so much, my parents
haven't financially supported me. Once I got past eighteen, I

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was on my own. After that point, I met a
nice person and got married, where me and my husband
paid for almost everything on our own. We bought a
house the same year with savings my husband had set aside.
Now we're currently pregnant with our first baby. Bryden wasn't
able to come to our wedding, which was sad for
us since he was in the Marines, But when he
came home, it seems he only had bad things to say.

Speaker 5 (57:03):
He made fun of the home we bought. When we
told him we.

Speaker 6 (57:05):
Were pregnant, he said our baby would be born the
same month as he was born, saying his birth month
is a superior month.

Speaker 3 (57:11):
Dude, How jealous and insecure could you possibly be?

Speaker 5 (57:14):
Yeah, he's like, sorry, November is my month.

Speaker 2 (57:17):
That's my month's better than your month. My nanny nanny
boo boo. He's like, can you like delay the birth.
What's really getting me is like, how do you insult
someone after becoming a homeowner?

Speaker 3 (57:27):
Like, I feel like.

Speaker 2 (57:29):
That's so like like when he's like your house sucks, yeah,
or it's like, yeah, where's your house dude? Yeah?

Speaker 3 (57:33):
Did you leave it on the mission?

Speaker 2 (57:35):
No?

Speaker 3 (57:36):
Like, what are you doing? What are we talking about?

Speaker 6 (57:38):
So he also does this thing with my nieces where
he tells them he's their favorite uncle and makes them
say it back to him, but no one says.

Speaker 5 (57:45):
Anything, dude. This guy's weird.

Speaker 6 (57:47):
Now, maybe it's harmless, but it really frustrates me, and
I'm just not ready to have to deal with that
with my own children. I've already told my mom that
if I need to, I will distance myself from Brandon
because of how toxic he can be. If my family
said anything and put him in his once in a while,
maybe I wouldn't be so inclined to feel as strongly.
But I worry that no one will have my back
when I attempt to set boundaries with him. I can
deal with his antics, but I don't want my kids

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to have to put up with it, especially because they.

Speaker 5 (58:10):
Won't understand what's going on.

Speaker 6 (58:11):
I have to protect them and be their example of
how you should treat people. All this to say, it
really doesn't have anything to do with Alice, as she's
genuinely a sweet girl, but more to do with my brother.
I feel bad not getting close to her, but with
how things have been going with Braiden, it's really hard
to want to get close to Alice. It's to the
point where I worry there will come a day after
our baby's born where I won't be able to tolerate
being with my entire family. At the same time, I

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am the black sheep and I do my best to
just be family, but I always feel left out and uncomfortable.

Speaker 5 (58:38):
Shout out op.

Speaker 6 (58:40):
I also resonate with the black sheep trigger in my family,
and that's not fun.

Speaker 5 (58:44):
So I sympathize with you for that.

Speaker 3 (58:45):
Shout out all the black sheep, All the.

Speaker 5 (58:47):
Black sheep, shout you out.

Speaker 6 (58:49):
All right, My husband's family is warm and welcoming, and
I feel so much more safe and comfortable with them,
which is an environment I want my kids to and
you can bring your kids. You just have to come
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Speaker 5 (59:03):
I'm not sure.

Speaker 6 (59:04):
It's confusing, and I feel so conflicted. It isn't Alice's fault,
and I don't feel it's my place to warn her
about him. Even the interactions I saw with them when
he was home, he was still his normal, controlling self,
at one point taking away her phone.

Speaker 5 (59:16):
That's so inappropriate. It's like guaranteeing your.

Speaker 3 (59:20):
Your partner, like being a high school teacher to your
soon to be wife.

Speaker 5 (59:25):
Put your phone in the phone cub behind him.

Speaker 3 (59:27):
You'll get it back after the end of second period.

Speaker 5 (59:30):
Yeah, I don't know.

Speaker 6 (59:31):
I feel bad because no one else seems to say
anything except my mom. But even then, she's still included
in everything. We just celebrated my niece's fifth birthday yesterday
and she was included. It just made me uncomfortable because
I feel that Braiden pressures my family to include her
and everything, going as far as telling my mom she
needs to invite Alice over to their house for dinner.
In my opinion, we should have the option to be
close with her, especially with him being in another country

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for two years. If he sticks out his whole mission,
I would have no problem if he was home and
they'd been maintaining their year.

Speaker 5 (59:59):
Long relationship at home. I just don't know. Am I
the a hole? What can I do here?

Speaker 6 (01:00:03):
I feel so lost and want to be close with
my family, but it's hard when they seem to let
Braiden walk all over them. I think there's a lot
of things going on, and I think the main part
of this story is your relationship with Braiden.

Speaker 5 (01:00:15):
You don't know if you want to have it or not.

Speaker 6 (01:00:17):
There's always resentment you hold for good reason, and you're
up in the air of if you want to have
a relationship with your brother, and then it seems like
it's just like salt in the wound that you don't
even want to necessarily have a relationship with your brother,
and this person that he's barely been seeing is joining
the family, and it seems like it's just still reminding
you the fact that your family put.

Speaker 5 (01:00:37):
Up with all the bs that your brother does.

Speaker 6 (01:00:39):
Yeah, and so I don't think that like talking to
Alice or anything around Alice is actually the problem.

Speaker 5 (01:00:45):
I think that's just kind.

Speaker 6 (01:00:46):
Of the scapegoat for the real fact that you need
to figure out the boundaries you want to set with
your brother and the type of relationship, if any, relationship
that OP wants to have with their brother.

Speaker 3 (01:00:55):
Yeah, maybe some family counseling.

Speaker 2 (01:00:57):
Yeah, And it can be a conversation with mom and
dad and you and can go and sit down and
figure out what exactly and get all you on the
same page.

Speaker 5 (01:01:05):
It's like a personal how do I want to relate
to my own brother?

Speaker 6 (01:01:08):
And then like how do I want to relate to
this with my family involved as well.

Speaker 1 (01:01:13):
My entitled brother informed me that he would be taking
my dog for three days.

Speaker 3 (01:01:19):
I'd like to see him try try it, do it.

Speaker 1 (01:01:22):
I thirty one female, have a man child entitled brother.
He lives in the house I co own with my mom.
My mom has told him he has until May thirty
first to move out. I've been anxiously waiting for him
to leave, doing my best to bide my time.

Speaker 3 (01:01:36):
But I have finally reached the end of my rope.

Speaker 1 (01:01:39):
And for something that I'm not sure is the straw
or the log that broke the camel's back, by.

Speaker 2 (01:01:45):
The way archiefe ten on the r slash okay storytime
soub reddit.

Speaker 3 (01:01:50):
So sometimes it's just a heavy load.

Speaker 2 (01:01:53):
Last night while I was in bed, Entitled brother quote
informed me he would be taking my dog Spot for
three days on some fishing trip.

Speaker 3 (01:02:02):
I told him that there's no way he could do that.

Speaker 1 (01:02:04):
He says he wasn't asking, he was telling me, he said, quote,
he's my dog too, and that he's entitled to take
him wherever he pleases. Here is the thing, though, nine
years ago, entitled brother demanded a dog. I begged my
mom not to he had one previously, but he neglected
it and my mom ended up rehoming it, for which
he never let her hear the end up. But of

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course she caved and the same problem persisted. Entitled bro
never cared for Spot. I ended up taking over his care.
I paid for his vet bills, I fed him, took
him to get groomed, et cetera. Things came to a
head when we had to move in with family members
and they said we are not allowed to bring a dog.
Entitled brother didn't do anything to find Spot a new home.
It was now my problem. I found him a foster

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home where I visited him every day after my college
classes ended, and was able to get him back two
years later, when we finally had a place to live again.

Speaker 6 (01:02:55):
Hey, so she OPI kept up this relationship with the
dog the whole time.

Speaker 3 (01:02:59):
This is a o peas dog. Spot is Ope's dog.

Speaker 1 (01:03:01):
Additionally, when I moved out of my house for a year,
Spot went with me. Spot sleeps with me every night
and has my name on all of his record.

Speaker 3 (01:03:09):
He is now ten and has arthritis.

Speaker 1 (01:03:12):
He takes meds for his hips and his stomach, and
he needs frequent bathroom breaks. Oh and he hates the water.
So when Little Bro said he wasn't asking me, he
was telling me. I knew that Spot would be miserable
and possibly in pain that whole trip. He hadn't asked
or even mentioned taking Spot before. So he is due
for a refill on his pills tomorrow. Had I known,
I would have gotten the refill sooner. I tried telling

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him Spot needs a lot of care, and he said.

Speaker 3 (01:03:37):
Quote, yeah, so just give me everything he needs.

Speaker 1 (01:03:40):
And I was so irritated you wait until the night
before to tell me this. Then he said something that
made my blood run cold. Quote I could have just
taken him and let you panic, but I was being
nice telling you ahead of time.

Speaker 3 (01:03:52):
That did it.

Speaker 1 (01:03:53):
I don't know why, but every alarm bell went off
in my head. I grabbed my purse, put on my slippers,
and told Spot to get in the car. I drove
to my fiance's house and slept there last night. I
was going to move into fiance's house this summer, But
now I'm asking myself why the heck am I waiting?
Everyone on Reddit keeps asking me why I stay home,
and right now I can't remember any of the reasons
I had before.

Speaker 3 (01:04:14):
I'm done. But I don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:04:16):
Well, I guess you know your brother sucks, but at
least he showed you the light of like, oh, dang,
I should just move out. My mom is staying out
of it right now, and I'm glad because I genuinely
don't care what she has to say. I know she
doesn't want me to go, but I just can't take
entitled brothers little power trips. He can do whatever he
wants to the house, punching holes in the walls, kicking appliances,

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calling the place a dump, but I draw the line
at him taking my dog without my permission?

Speaker 5 (01:04:41):
Is he doing those things? Is that real?

Speaker 3 (01:04:43):
Sounds like it. Punch on the walls sounds like he's
a menace.

Speaker 5 (01:04:46):
He's just alone punch in the wall in his room.

Speaker 3 (01:04:49):
Yeah, that was the final straw.

Speaker 1 (01:04:51):
That's my baby, and I'm not gonna just stand by
while he does whatever he wants with my pet when
I explicitly told him no, no, which is something that
he rare ever hears ps. I occasionally have asked bro
to let Spot out for bathroom breaks since he doesn't
work until the afternoon, and his response.

Speaker 3 (01:05:07):
Is always that he's too busy to do that.

Speaker 5 (01:05:10):
Well, he's busy punching the walls.

Speaker 1 (01:05:12):
Yeah, he's busy check and the appliances in the kitchen
with my fists.

Speaker 3 (01:05:17):
I'm busy here.

Speaker 1 (01:05:18):
He has given me no reason to trust him to
care for my dog for even a few hours, let
alone three days on a fishing trip.

Speaker 3 (01:05:25):
And we do have an edit.

Speaker 1 (01:05:26):
My brother does not know where my fiance lives, and
even if he did, fiance's two huge German shepherds would
devour him.

Speaker 5 (01:05:34):
I've been practicing on these drywalls.

Speaker 3 (01:05:36):
I don't know.

Speaker 5 (01:05:36):
I've been coming these dogs.

Speaker 2 (01:05:38):
He's been building, building up the calluses on those knuckles,
fighting the oven.

Speaker 3 (01:05:41):
Door like, I don't know what he's doing in there.
And we do have another update.

Speaker 1 (01:05:45):
First of all, I would like to thank everyone for
all their support, well wishes and for reaching out to
check on me and Spot. It was such a relief
to know that so many of you would have had
the same instinctual reaction that I had in my situation.
After many months, I finally have an update for you all.

Speaker 3 (01:06:00):
Entitled Bro has finally moved out. Yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:06:04):
Oh, However, he didn't move out until the end of July.

Speaker 1 (01:06:07):
He was supposed to move out by May thirty first,
but my mother allowed him to push the date back twice.
I wasn't pleased, but since I moved out abruptly in April,
I couldn't let myself get worked up over it. I
was focusing on making a safe space for Spot and myself.
Since Entitled Bro has moved out, my mother has made
the house her own, and I'm proud to say it
is finally everything she envisioned it to be.

Speaker 5 (01:06:28):
Everyone's winning.

Speaker 3 (01:06:29):
Everybody is winning up in here.

Speaker 1 (01:06:30):
The house looks immaculate now that Entitled Bro isn't prouding
her space. She's very proud of all of her home
improvement projects and always has something new that she wants
to show me when I visit. She seems so happy
on that makes me happy. The only thing that concerns
me is how uncharacteristically friendly, entitled bro has been acting
with her since he moved out.

Speaker 3 (01:06:50):
More on that later.

Speaker 1 (01:06:51):
Spot is doing so much better since we went to
live with my fiance and his two German shepherds. I
think fiance's dogs understood that Spot is older and not
Q's white as athletic as them, but that didn't stop
him from trying to keep up with them. After moving in,
Spot's favorite pastimes include running around the huge yard, laying
in the sun, and eating the tasty little nuggets that
the chickens leave.

Speaker 3 (01:07:12):
In the yard. And yeah that's I mean, chicken poop
grows you well, who knows, Maybe they need it.

Speaker 5 (01:07:17):
I don't know, Spot's a little freaky.

Speaker 1 (01:07:18):
Maybe they get some nutrients in there. If you have
read this far and are wondering what took me so
long to update, I apologize for the delay, but I
have a good reason. My fiance and I bought our
first home ye home ownership big steps.

Speaker 5 (01:07:33):
Seriously.

Speaker 1 (01:07:33):
We fell in love with a tiny little house in
our ideal area and had been working on renovating it.
I'm very pleased to announce that we moved in last month,
and if that wasn't good enough news for you, here's
the biggest announcement of all.

Speaker 3 (01:07:45):
We got married. Congratulations. I can't go any higher than
that right now.

Speaker 5 (01:07:55):
So low, yeah, because I'm so low in manly Yeah
yeah yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:07:58):
After all the hard work we put into the house,
we knew it was the perfect place for us to
tie the knot. We invited his dad, his siblings, and
my mom over and we had a quick ceremony in
our living room amongst unpacked boxes and mix matched furniture.

Speaker 3 (01:08:12):
It was perfect.

Speaker 1 (01:08:13):
But oh, this wouldn't be an entitled people post without
some entitled bro stories. Here are some of the highlights,
for lack of a better term, of what I've dealt
with since my last post. For the three to four
weeks after I moved out, entitled bro would not stop asking.

Speaker 3 (01:08:27):
Where's Spot, Where's my dog? Over and over. I just
ignored him.

Speaker 1 (01:08:32):
But while I was silent, he said a lot of
very revealing things, such as, I bet you won't bring
Spot back because you were afraid I'll do the same
thing to you through what take her, take the I guess,
take the dog, take her, take her to the lake.

Speaker 5 (01:08:43):
I'm gonna take you to the lake and give you
a nice vacation. I'm taking you to the lake, and
you don't have any say about it. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:08:49):
Ohp clarified that she was talking about taking the dog
because she took the dog.

Speaker 5 (01:08:52):
Oh okay, got it.

Speaker 1 (01:08:53):
He was like, I'm taking the dog to lake. She's like, yeah, right,
I'm taking the dog to my fiancees. I wanted to
point out that the whole reason I felt the need
to remove Spot was because he threatened to take my
dog without my permission. But I didn't waste my breath
now to mention the fact that all the medication and
all the different thing, it was just a bad idea
to bring Spot to the lake, especially Spot doesn't like water.
At one point, he got so worked up about this

(01:09:15):
that he said, fine, don't tell me where Spot is.
I'll find out, which only solidified my confidence that I
made the right choice. A couple months ago, he had
information that I needed in order to help our aunt
with a task. My aunt asked him to please send
me the info so I could complete the task for her.
He said he would, but never sent me anything, despite
how many times she reminded him. It got to the

(01:09:36):
point where the deadline was getting close, so I had
to call and text him multiple times. He refused to
give me anything, saying that I quote needed to apologize
for being so rude because I had the audacity to
ask him for the information. I decided to act fed
up and told him forget it. Someone else can do it.

Speaker 3 (01:09:52):
He's the one leaving your aunt out to dry well.

Speaker 2 (01:09:54):
There's nothing oh he could do. He's going to give
the yeah, the info. I guess someone else is going
to do it now. Yeah, thanks brother.

Speaker 1 (01:10:01):
I then asked my cousin Molly to text him, saying
she was the one to contact instead. He sent the
info to her instantly, and I had Molly forward the
information to me. The look on his face when he
later found out I was the one who took care
of everything for my aunt was priceless.

Speaker 3 (01:10:14):
He enjoyed having things to hold over my head.

Speaker 2 (01:10:17):
The final thing I will mention is entitled bro was
a nightmare for my mother until the day he moved out.
He went through many waves of giving my mom the
silent treatment, fan angrily hounding her for quote ruining his life,
to having personal pity parties, and saying things like he
was so depressed and.

Speaker 1 (01:10:32):
He didn't want to live anymore. Oh man, Well that's rough.

Speaker 6 (01:10:35):
But it seems like the brother is having like a
lot of mental struggles and is acting out and has
just a lot going on internet.

Speaker 1 (01:10:43):
Definitely, I'll say this really quickly because of the angrily
hounding his mom for ruining his life.

Speaker 3 (01:10:48):
One of the most freeing things we can do.

Speaker 1 (01:10:50):
Is people is accepting responsibility for everything that has ever
happened to us, even if it's not our fault. And
it's because it allows us to take ownership of our
like the of our life, and it's you know, of course,
not everything that happens to us is our fault, but
by taking that responsibility, you take one hundred percent of
the power back in your life and then you can
navigate forward from there. But it sounds like this guy

(01:11:12):
doesn't have any responsibility for himself. He's not taking care
of quote his dog, which is not his dog. He's
never taken care of it the entire time they've had it.
So I think a nice dose of responsibility would probably
be good for entitled brother. My mom got so fed
up that by his moving out day she had no
pity for him anymore. Just secondhand embarrassment. But then he
did something very strange. He was literally in the middle

(01:11:33):
of yelling at her and blaming her for all of
his shortcomings, when he suddenly broke down and cried, saying
he was so sorry for what he put her through.
All he wants is to be loved by his mom
and sister, and asking what would you do if I
was unalived? My mom says she thought it was a
miracle from God and tried to gently ask and I
tried to gently ask her if it wasn't more likely

(01:11:54):
that it was just a manipulation tactic. She said that
she is choosing to believe that this is a sign
that her son is finally changing for the better. Well,
if it's anything, it's definitely a sign that the son
wants to change.

Speaker 6 (01:12:04):
Yeah, that like he's probably just fid defenses and ways
of acting inappropriately are kind of like falling apart, and
he's like I need hope.

Speaker 1 (01:12:12):
Yeah, the facade is dropping, and he's just like, I suck,
Please help.

Speaker 3 (01:12:17):
I don't know what to do. I find it very
hard to believe that he is actually changing for the better.

Speaker 1 (01:12:23):
So now he acts as if he was never the
absolute h double hockey stick spond that plagued our home
for eight years. And my mom is so happy because
she thinks that now her son is reform. I think
it's more likely that he is just trying to stay
in her good graces because he wants to use her
as a safety net. My mom claims that she would
never take him back in unless it was a true emergency,

(01:12:43):
but I don't know about that. That is the only
thing about entitled bro that makes me uneasy to this day.

Speaker 2 (01:12:47):
By the way, you know, it would make me the
opposite of uneasy to me if y'all joined.

Speaker 1 (01:12:52):
Us when we go live every weekday at three pm
on YouTube, Facebook, TikTok, and Twitch.

Speaker 3 (01:12:59):
Oh just tap our profile. You do have a little
bit of story left.

Speaker 1 (01:13:01):
We're about to finish, but before we continue, I think
in regards to the mom being like the brother has
now turned over a new leave, I think you just
have to let her have that because that's gonna allow
her to have the most peace.

Speaker 3 (01:13:16):
And people do change.

Speaker 1 (01:13:17):
People have the capacity to change, and he may have
reached a breaking point, and now does you know want
to change? Other than that, I have no interest in
dealing with him and will not be including him in anything.
He does not have my address and my relatives know
not to share it with him. Although I have had
to deal with a lot of drama these past few months,
I am so relieved that I left that tumultuous home

(01:13:38):
life when I did. If I hadn't, I wouldn't have
a safe space for myself or Spot. I wouldn't finally
have a home of my own with someone who loves
me completely, and I wouldn't have married the sweetest, most
supportive man. I'm so grateful to be able to write
this happy update on my couch in my home, with
my husband at my.

Speaker 5 (01:13:54):
Side and my sweet Spot Dan his head in

Speaker 1 (01:13:56):
My lamp, finally and happy, and get that story, and
it's a good ending.
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