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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Dearest John, It's been a fortnight since I felt your
warm embrace.

Speaker 2 (00:04):
Dear Sam, such it has since we started the Okay
story Tom podcast.

Speaker 1 (00:07):
Yes, and I have a message for you, a delicious
story that I think you'll love. Sincerely Sam.

Speaker 2 (00:13):
But before that fine, divine two minute outbreak must happen,
I bid thee farewell. See you in two minutes. Today
we're ranking the.

Speaker 1 (00:20):
Top five worst nice guys of all time, starting with
I ruined my friend's relationship with his childhood best friend
by rejecting him dumped. I know this is long, but
please hang in there. It's got all the markings of
a tragic rom com, minus the rom fake names alerts.
So I, twenty seven female, am friends with the sweetest

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guy ever. Red Flag Logan thirty one male. We met
through his childhood bff, Zach thirty one male. Not long after,
Zach tried to romance me. Zach confessed his undying love
minutes into our first meeting, and I was like, let's
get to know each other first.

Speaker 2 (00:58):
Robio.

Speaker 1 (00:59):
By the way, this comes from sugar Ant ninety eight
on the r slash Okay Storytimes subreddit. So after a
few weeks, I told Zach Hey, this isn't working.

Speaker 2 (01:06):
You're great. We want different things one different things. Translation,
he it's me, I'm not into you. Ooh sorry, Zach.

Speaker 1 (01:13):
I even gave him to choose your own venture option,
move on or stay friends. Zach chose door number two friendship,
but his version involved bringing up his feelings every few months,
like an unwonted sequel. For two years, Zach kept trying
to wear me down. He dropped the I need to
talk bomb, pour his heart out, get rejected, then throw
a tantrum like I'd stolen his Pokemon cards. My feelings

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were background noise in Zach's personal wrong com and he.

Speaker 2 (01:38):
Was the only one who didn't realize it was a flop.

Speaker 1 (01:40):
Even mutual friends tried to stage an intervention, but Zach
was committed to his delusion.

Speaker 2 (01:46):
He's committed to love, dude. He's a lover boy. He's
a lover boy. He's a night sort of god.

Speaker 1 (01:51):
Meanwhile, Logan and I thrived as platonic besties. He is
my most beloved friend and I am his. I finally
told him a Zach's antics, hoping he'd saved me from
endless love confessions, and Logan was livid by any thing,
But I'm putting an ICU. Logan is livid because he's
in love with Opie and he wanted to say it first.

Speaker 2 (02:10):
He's the plot twist nice.

Speaker 3 (02:12):
He's been playing all along as an act like a true,
actual nice nice.

Speaker 2 (02:16):
Now he's a nice guy.

Speaker 1 (02:17):
Now you can't you see, you can't trust anyone who's
nice or mean. That's right, just you know, can't trust anybody.
Just can't trust anybody.

Speaker 2 (02:25):
That's it.

Speaker 1 (02:25):
Just you know, you know you could trust chat. Chat
is the only one that you can trust. Everyone else
out the door Chat. I die for Chat. In Chat,
we trust in one nation under Chat. Men and women
have died for Chat for millions of years.

Speaker 2 (02:40):
That's right, that's true. It's true from the beginning of time.

Speaker 1 (02:42):
But Logan was livid not at me per se, but
at Zach for being Zach and at me for being
too nice about it. Logan initially wanted to handle it himself,
but we decided I should confront Zach myself. To my surprise,
Zach backed off. Fast forward a year and.

Speaker 2 (02:56):
Zach re emerges yep exactly.

Speaker 1 (02:58):
Claiming I let A wasn't honest and disrespected his feelings.
I literally said, quote this isn't going to work. Let's
end this before feelings get hurt. And Zach heard, try harder,
challenge level impossible, make me love you. Then Zach started
treating me like trash in front of mutual friends. I
was subjected to all sorts of passive aggressive disrespect and

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borderline bullying, but Logan hadn't seen at firsthand. One day,
Zach invites himself over while Logan and I are hanging out.
Logan notices my Zach's coming over again face, and I
spill the beans about it, spill the beans about Zach's
behavior after he insists. Logan doesn't react yet, But when
Zach shows up, Logan calls it a night and escorts

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me out.

Speaker 2 (03:42):
Wow, so maybe it's like tonight an escort kind of night.

Speaker 1 (03:46):
But I do I think that Zach is going to
go into Logan or sorry, Logan's going to go into Zach.

Speaker 2 (03:52):
He's whoa, it isn't an escort kind of.

Speaker 1 (03:55):
Night, Doe, No, yeah, no, But I think I think
I think Logan's actually being a nice guy.

Speaker 3 (04:00):
Yeah, Logan is being like a like, like a real
nice guy, and it seems like Zach is revving up
his fake nice guy engine and is about to just
like floor leashit.

Speaker 1 (04:08):
Honey B eighty five says Zach is a walking Fedora
got her so. A week later, I hear through a
mutual friend that Logan exploded on Zach. Oh baby, God,
maybe there's a better way to say that, a potentially
ruining their twenty eight year bromance. Zach's reaction fury. He
insists I came between them, Oh God, better, there's better

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choice as a word here, y'all, and calls me an
outsider like this is some weird best friend cult I infiltrated.
Neither has contacted me since. One friend says it's my
fault and I should have stayed away from Logan, let
alone telling him about Zach. Another says it was inevitable
like Thanos, that Logan was going to notice the disrespectful
behavior anyway. Probably, so am I the a hole for

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ruining their bromance? There are relevant comments and maybe an update,
but John, real quick before I jump into these, is
Op the ale Op is not the a In fact,
Op was trying to be the angel uh and gave
this guy too much of a chance. And I think
she wouldn't have been an a hole even if she
had at that inflection point, instead of giving hey, choose

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your own adventure, just like hey, I'm sorry we got
to cut ways.

Speaker 2 (05:14):
She was very respectful. I think she gave him way
too many chances. I agree.

Speaker 1 (05:18):
I think that was the big mistake here, Like why
are you giving this piece of poopy poop poop like
so many chances to be in your life after he
has proven again and again that he is not aligned
with what you want. Stinky man, he's a stinky He's
a stinky dude.

Speaker 2 (05:33):
Clean the stench. Clean it out.

Speaker 1 (05:34):
So Western Dog seventy three forty two says, Okay, look,
not the a hole. Seriously, Zach was being long before
Logan finally saw it. You didn't ruin their bromance, Zach's
inability to take a hint, and then his crappy behavior
towards you did. It's not your fault. Logan opened his
eyes and realized his best friend was treating someone he
cares about like garbage. You were trying to be friends
with Zach, and when that didn't work, he acted like

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a spoilt bract. It sounds like Logan was just in denial.

Speaker 2 (05:59):
For a long time.

Speaker 1 (06:00):
Don't let anyone make you feel bad for his realization,
Opie responds, Logan was actually so surprised the first time
we talked and said he didn't recognize this version of
his friend. I guess he just hasn't seen him around
girls he likes before. And that is where that story ends.
So we're gonna be ranking all these stories.

Speaker 2 (06:19):
Oh yeah, the worst.

Speaker 1 (06:20):
Should we just put this story in like a solid
three for right now?

Speaker 3 (06:24):
One hundred percent agree because I feel like we're revving up.
There wasn't anything like and then he egged my house
or you like, cut slash my tires. It just was
some bickering and back and forth. So I feel like
a solid three, a solid story three.

Speaker 1 (06:36):
But again, we're ranking, so uh, we're there might be
ones that are worse, there might be ones that are better.
We're gonna be moving and moving them all around, but
we're gonna move it and grooving that number one the
top worst spot. It's gotta be bad, Yeah, it's gotta
be It's gotta be bad, and we want to save
it for for the worst.

Speaker 2 (06:51):
There we are number three.

Speaker 1 (06:53):
Okay, we're on fourteen thirty three. All right, so because
we're ranking, let's see is this next story worse or better?
This is a worser better nice guy than the one before,
and again number one is reserved for the worst of
the worst nice guy.

Speaker 2 (07:06):
So let's find out. My brother never wants to talk
to me again because I told him his looks aren't
the reason women run from him. Oh wow, they running. Wow,
it's just one of the reasons. There's a whole list
that the main reason.

Speaker 1 (07:19):
I twenty two male, have three older siblings, Diana forty
three female, big age gap, Sebastian thirty seven male, and
Jake thirty two male.

Speaker 3 (07:25):
I was the surprise baby, and I'm closer to Jake
than Diana and Sebastian.

Speaker 1 (07:30):
By the way, this comes from am I a Hill
five to one five to five on the arsash Okay
storytime starbre So. Jake has always been interested in sports
and all training since he was fourteen and went pro
in college, so even at thirty two years old, he
looks like a young Schwarzenegger, and I took after him
because he was a sibling at home who I was
actively watching. I mean, I was young and desperate for

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interacting with my siblings, so I did a lot of
needy things I took baking classes with Diana. I watched
every in Star Wars movie so I could talk to Sebastian,
and I became the rock at eighteen.

Speaker 2 (08:04):
For Jake, I'm not.

Speaker 3 (08:06):
That needy anymore, and I never really talked with Sebastian.
He claims the reason people and mostly women reject him
are his looks. I mean, he's okay, a little bald,
a little overweight, but very very grumpy and noisy.

Speaker 2 (08:18):
Dude went from like just the jock to the.

Speaker 1 (08:21):
Not Yeah, dude, that's rough. That's a rough transition. Losing
like you know, I feel like people like that maybe
lean too much on the good looks and never developed
a good personality.

Speaker 2 (08:30):
Peaked in high school. Yeah, big giving peaked in high school.

Speaker 1 (08:33):
My sister and I were talking sof he is like, yeah,
I'm going through my glow up era like right now,
and She's like, and I've been building my personality this
whole time, so now I'm just freaking awesome. And we
were talking about this idea that if you're too hot,
too young, you just become a boring piece of slop.

Speaker 2 (08:49):
You don't need to do anything, you.

Speaker 1 (08:50):
Don't need to do anything, you're just like I'm hot,
pay attention to me, and then like as soon as
those looks fade, you're just You're just a piece of cardboard.

Speaker 4 (08:57):
Yeah, that's it, and no personality.

Speaker 1 (08:58):
Dude, dude's you got? You got nothing? You got nothing?
Not what I want, man, Not what I want. I
want to I want Oldie with a heart of gold run,
fat booty, fat panties.

Speaker 3 (09:11):
So Obie says he thinks Jake and I are because
of how we look. He really doesn't have another reason.
Jake has a PhD and I'm on top of my classes,
but we're because muscles. I've been laughing at his disrespect
and resent for years, but now that I'm a bit older,
I could just cut him off and move away from him.

Speaker 1 (09:27):
Sad because he's my brother and I want a relationship.
But I was an o R with a guy and
a girl?

Speaker 2 (09:32):
Is that like.

Speaker 1 (09:33):
An operating resident an ob obstinate recorder? I thought it
was like a like a like a medical medical Yeah,
it's probably medical, That's what I'm thinking.

Speaker 2 (09:43):
Chah, we know a medical term.

Speaker 1 (09:45):
Is so ar? Yeah, what's an o R? Oh Raba
King says Oldie with a Heart of Goldie. Well, yeah,
I like that that one.

Speaker 2 (09:50):
I like.

Speaker 1 (09:51):
Chiel Da says very insightful of Sophia. She's an insightful gal,
that's true. And now she looks maxing, so now she's
insightful and pretty loggan on chat.

Speaker 4 (10:00):
Yeah, I can't find anything.

Speaker 2 (10:02):
Open relationship, no way.

Speaker 4 (10:04):
Maybe I think that might be it.

Speaker 2 (10:05):
Wait, repeating him, it is.

Speaker 3 (10:07):
I was in an open relationship with a guy and
a girl because I don't win anything serious in my twenties.
And a few months ago my girl had to pick
me up from my parents and I introduced her to
the family. Next day, she said that Sebastian sent her
the most uneffable messages on Facebook.

Speaker 2 (10:24):
Whatever that means.

Speaker 3 (10:24):
I'm afraid to find out affable that she has ever
received in her life. I read it and it was something.
He called her beautiful. He said he knew we weren't
serious or official, and asked her out on a date.

Speaker 2 (10:35):
Again. This is the brother sliding into the DM.

Speaker 5 (10:37):
Wow.

Speaker 2 (10:38):
Okay, that is so much worse than the last one.

Speaker 1 (10:41):
Not good is that I feel gives it a rank
of two over the three already.

Speaker 2 (10:46):
But can't he redeem himself?

Speaker 1 (10:47):
I dude, I don't know, I mean, do you guys
think that that is I think that is worse than
let's put it on two for right now. I think
it's worse than the last one. I'm gonna put it.
I'm gonna put it on two.

Speaker 2 (10:58):
Here we go.

Speaker 1 (10:59):
Yeah, this is this is my brother never wants to
talk to me again because I told him his looks
are the reason women or aren't the reason women run
f him.

Speaker 2 (11:06):
I'm putting that too.

Speaker 1 (11:07):
That's like an instant, instant worse than the last one.
But let me know what you guys think. But I'm
putting that right there, right for right now.

Speaker 2 (11:15):
He might redeem So twenty minutes later he asked if
she was there. Ten minutes after that, he asked her
to not show me the text. Ten minutes after that,
he spent the next twenty minutes insulting her until she
just blocked him. Oh god, what a creep And that
is an uneffable message.

Speaker 1 (11:31):
Oh yeah, it's like not only is it creepy, but
it's like man, got no riz Like he's already stepping
like this. This is worse on like double fronts, because
not only is he reaching out to someone that his
sibling is romantically interested in and trying to riz them up.
But the riz is zero and then just like degrading,
weird and awful, it's a negative, a foul, it's a

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negative one thousand riz.

Speaker 5 (11:54):
Ugh.

Speaker 2 (11:54):
No, we agreed.

Speaker 3 (11:57):
To not tell him anything because she said she didn't care,
and that was all. I broke up with him and
removed myself from the house. I'll be living with my
family for at least a month until I find another apartment.
Sebastian is also living here, and when I went through
the door, he laughed at me, hah, called me a
kicked out Chad, and that even when I look like
a little jake, I still got broken up with And

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now I know how he feels when people reject him
for his looks, and that it's better because my looks
are the f boys stereotype. I just rolled my eyes
and said that his looks aren't the reason women run
from him, but rather his creepy personality. And to remember
the text that he sent to my ex a few
months ago.

Speaker 1 (12:36):
Oh yeah, dude, crepe dude, he's being a creep and
a lose.

Speaker 2 (12:40):
It's just like all around, it's a nice guy. It's
nice guy.

Speaker 1 (12:45):
He got red in the face and my mom said
that I was rude because Sebastian is already having a
bad time because his age and living at home. Another
nice guy characteristic being like old and living with her
mom's basement. Bro, he's like thirty times nothing. He has
no personality is no oh, looks he has no home,
he has no job, dude.

Speaker 4 (13:03):
Yeah, Pokemon cards.

Speaker 1 (13:04):
Come on, he does the Pokemon cards. I'll give him
that much, him that much.

Speaker 2 (13:07):
Yeah, that that really gets him out of the nice
guy territory.

Speaker 1 (13:09):
Maybe he has a holographic charge of guard. Oh, then
I gotta If he has a holographic charte guard, I gotta.
I gotta give a pass to this guy you might
be trying.

Speaker 2 (13:17):
To slide into.

Speaker 1 (13:18):
Yeah, doctor d Yeah, go on.

Speaker 2 (13:22):
By the way, you cannot be toxic by listening to
full episodes of stories just like this.

Speaker 3 (13:26):
You just gotta spotifyable podcasts wherever your favorite podcasts are,
and you.

Speaker 2 (13:30):
Can literally listen while you're doing other things.

Speaker 1 (13:32):
You while you're working, while you're cleaning, while you're driving,
while you're you're pretending to listen to your boss or whatever. Oh,
any time, just put in our earphones and it's better
than probably whatever you're experiencing.

Speaker 2 (13:44):
Ever, if you're listening to us at work to ignore
your work common below right now? Yeah? Please please? What
does that make me?

Speaker 4 (13:51):
I'm listening to you while working but then also listening
to you.

Speaker 2 (13:54):
What it means you hacked life? Yeah? Dude, I think
I think you? Uh you won? Yeah, you will.

Speaker 1 (14:00):
Your job is to be a professional chat member. Oh god,
chat and chat.

Speaker 3 (14:05):
We have some relevant comments. A commenter says, does your
mom know the extent of what your brother messager? X
Opie responds, she doesn't know anything about it, but I
think my mom enables his creepy behavior. She's just not
like that. She's always taught us to respect women and
people in general. When I tell her that I had
an open relationship, she thought I was cheating and yelled
the crab out of me. Classic I had to explain

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it to her really well, if she ever finds out
Sebastian being a total weirdo with women, she'll most likely
kick him out of the house. But my intention isn't
even to hurt him or anything. So Loki Opie's actually
being the nice guy because he can totally expose Sebashian
and get him frickin on the streets, his life.

Speaker 2 (14:41):
Would be even worse. But he's not doing that. He's
letting his mom just like you know, come after him.

Speaker 1 (14:45):
Well, question here, like, do you think do you think
by not by giving this guy no consequences for his actions,
you're actually encouraging this kind of weird behavior. And if
he was thrown out, maybe he would like learn a lesson.
Maybe that's too like unempathetic, but I'm like, I feel
like this guy needs to needs to have a little

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bit of consequences just so he knows, Hey, this is
not gonna get you anywhere he should.

Speaker 2 (15:11):
But would you do that knowing that your brother would
get kicked? Yeah, you're right right, that's the tough part.

Speaker 3 (15:17):
Yogati says. One to be honest, it seems to make
you a great person if you don't tell your mom.
But if your brother tends to display such behavior, you're
enabling him by covering up his behavior. Maybe it would
not be the worst for your mom to know, so
he would be faced with proper boundaries. Sometimes people need
to hit rock bottom to reality check and work.

Speaker 2 (15:33):
On themselves in their situation.

Speaker 1 (15:34):
That is kind of what I was saying, you know,
like it could be the best, honestly, think about it
this way, John, Maybe Op's saying something so that guy
gets kicked out of the house, would all right, here
we go. What happens when you get kicked out? You
gotta get a job. Man starts to get a job.
All right, Now, he's like employed, he has his own place,
could potentially be a better thing for the ladies. And
then he's like, oh, no, one wants to date me.

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He gets rejected. What happens, goes and hits the gym,
goes to the iron church, build hold up that self
confidence externally and then internally, and then he becomes the
chad that he knows he could be. Or he just
becomes friends with the birds and eats garbage cans. Hey,
but you know, like like you know, pigeon friends are
friends in.

Speaker 2 (16:14):
Day, that's true. I can't. I can't hate on the
fish friend. I don't hate on the pigeons, right, I
can't do it.

Speaker 3 (16:19):
And Op responds, as I said, I never really saw
him interacting with women before that. When I thought my brother,
I related him with how we didn't speak and how
desperate I felt because I wanted a relationship, to be fair,
I never thought he had relationship problems, or more like
the lack of them. Lack of relationships that is because
neither Jake or I even Diana but she was already married,
had them, So in my head it made sense that

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he didn't either, Like it was logical. My dad is
also a baldy with a belly, and yet my mom
is head over heels with him. After posting this and
seeing how people were worried about Sebastian being dangerous, I
texted Jake. He's way harder with Sebastian, like he doesn't
really give an f about his feelings. I came clean
about my ex's incident, and he said he was aware
of this weird behavior because he also tried it with

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his partners.

Speaker 2 (17:02):
Oh my god, this guy keeps getting worse. I think
I'm now on the previous commenters slash your side. I
think he kind of needs the harshest reality check. I
feel like I keep caching his dating so weird.

Speaker 1 (17:17):
Also, Kimberly finds it is better to be a self
made crap bag than a publicly funded one. I love that,
but Josephine says, no, I think it would become worse,
like extreme and soul. That would hurt women type bad
if he gets kicked out. So I could that polarize
and isolate him to the point where he like becomes dangerous.
I could go, it could go either way. I feel

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like he kind of needs the kick in the pants potentially,
and it got worse. I kind of want to distance
our number two from number three. I want to move
this down a little bit, just because I feel like
there's now such a great disparity between like the guy
that just like couldn't take the hint and kept confessing
his love and the guy that's literally slipping slipping into

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his siblings, all of them, all of his painting partners.

Speaker 2 (18:03):
Chat.

Speaker 1 (18:04):
Let me know if you disagree with me, but I'm
gonna I'm gonna move this.

Speaker 2 (18:07):
One to four.

Speaker 1 (18:08):
I agree, just so we got a little bit of space,
because oh my god, this guy is radioactive. Everyone, even
like the other nice guys, are like, oh well, I
don't want to be next to that guy.

Speaker 3 (18:19):
I'm not that nice. So but Jake gives him crap
and he stopped coming for his ex girlfriend's exus slash girlfriends.
Jake said his plan was to just cut this crappy
behavior off, but realize that it didn't work out, so
he's gonna give him crap again. I'll join him so
we can talk to Sebastian. I don't think my brother
is really dangerous, but I also think he had an
amazing love life, so I might not be the most

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relatable person. I'll get involved either way. And that is
the end of that story. We've locked in at number
number two. We've locked in at number two.

Speaker 2 (18:50):
We've saved. Do we want to change number one?

Speaker 1 (18:52):
I want to leave. I want to leave the little room.
I want to leave the little room right now.

Speaker 2 (18:56):
But it is. It is bad. It's heating up, is
he the competition's getting stiffy? Is crazy? Yeah?

Speaker 1 (19:03):
Also, we're ranking the worst, the worst nice guys of
all time. So number one is the worst of the
worst nice guys. Number two is a little less bad,
and number five is like the least bad, least worse
nice guy. So yeah, we're looking for our terrible, terrible number.

Speaker 2 (19:23):
Udo on Number one is the absolute word.

Speaker 4 (19:25):
You put it up in front of your face for
a second, So get a full screen look at it
now and down down a little bit. Perfect there, it is.

Speaker 2 (19:33):
Perfect? All right, all right, that's you, buddy. Let's see
what the next one on?

Speaker 1 (19:38):
All right, I told my brother he's a creep for
trying to date our neighbor short distance.

Speaker 2 (19:44):
Yeah, yeah, short.

Speaker 1 (19:47):
So my twenty female older brother, Adam thirty eight male,
is one of those men who listens to in cell
online and says horrendous things about women. Oh man, my parents,
both sixty three, adore him their beloved son and favorite child.
They enabled him through everything and fed his ego three
meals a day. That's the one way to put it.

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And also this comes from honest manner eleven forty four
on the best of Rutter updates. So my brother and
I both had the option of our parents paying for college.
I happily took it, while he didn't. He's stuck to
the family business and lived his life free of everything.
And honestly, that's okay. He's thirty eight, he's unmarried and
as I said, normal and very much okay.

Speaker 2 (20:26):
Not the problem.

Speaker 1 (20:26):
He's never been a loaner or left out. He probably
has had around fifty girlfriends since high school.

Speaker 2 (20:32):
To it, now, that's a lot.

Speaker 3 (20:34):
Dude, that's making you take a run for your There
are some numbers, numbers on the brother numbers. I mean,
I guess like if I if I add a decade
and I, yeah, what's your average rate?

Speaker 2 (20:46):
Yeah? If I added a decade, well, because what if
I got this decade? All right? Oh yeah, so the
last decade.

Speaker 1 (20:53):
It's probably been like seven. Yeah, so so that that's
a lot. That's a lot by his age, I would
have been I would have had like fourty teen girlfriends
if I if I never settled down, which I planned
to do, i'mlike, chat, the chat doesn't think I will,
but I will prove them wrong.

Speaker 4 (21:07):
Well, say you took a trip to Bali every month.

Speaker 2 (21:09):
Though, Well, then that would be that would be different.

Speaker 4 (21:11):
He definitely would have it.

Speaker 3 (21:13):
That's not that's not fourteen girlfriends, that's fourteen other wives.

Speaker 2 (21:16):
That's true. That's true wives. That's pty wives.

Speaker 1 (21:19):
So one night, as we were all having dinner with
some of our family over because they were visiting, my
brother expressed that he wants to get married soon. I
was so happy for him and immediately smiled. My father
asked to who, and he went, oh, man, this is
the creepiest lie that you can have. Well, she doesn't
know yet, but I have my eye on this girl
Ella next door, the blonde one. She's smoking high and

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freaking gorgeous. I bet they were like both walking in
one time and she was like hi, and he's like.

Speaker 2 (21:49):
I will spend the rest of my life.

Speaker 1 (21:51):
With you, and she's like, oh, I'm going side real quick.
The table was filled with a bit of confusion and
some support. I re acted differently. I asked him Ella
next door and reminder Opie's brothers thirty eight. Ella next door,
isn't she nineteen? He seemed confused and asked me what
the big deal is, to which I applied, she's younger

(22:12):
than me. You were already eighteen when I was born.
Are you do you want to be her husband or
her father?

Speaker 2 (22:18):
Oh? God, daddy oh.

Speaker 1 (22:19):
His response is what made my already insufferable brother look
worse to me. He said, men get their life together
and went around my age and successful. We want new
meat to have children with who carry our line on
real young women who are fertile. I feel so weird
reading that, God, God clip, that.

Speaker 4 (22:45):
Should just go ahead and do it.

Speaker 2 (22:47):
Wow Wow.

Speaker 1 (22:49):
I told him this was weird, creepy, and a twisted
way to talk about women. I got trashed by my parents.
He went on to ask Ella out, and obviously she
rejected him really quick. We are like twenty five percent
into this story. Can we make any kind of decision
yet about this of where this guy falls?

Speaker 3 (23:07):
So what I think, what I think we can definitely
say is he has the worst like mindset.

Speaker 2 (23:12):
And worst mindset. We haven't seen what he will do
because yet, but.

Speaker 1 (23:17):
So far, his thoughts I think are worse than anyone
that we've talked to. Yes, yes, but his actions I
feel like are not as he hasn't acted yet. Well
he did, He's I feel like we're building up. He
just he asked out a nineteen year old, right question
to do? That is asking out your nineteen year old
neighbor and saying this worse than sliding into the DMS

(23:39):
of your siblings significant other. This is this is so,
this is this is a rock at a hard place,
rock and a hard place. Guys, case knows, is it commean?
On one thousand?

Speaker 3 (23:49):
Like, well, you know what I think. I think his
his actions are about to match his mindset. Yeah, that
number one spot is looking real.

Speaker 1 (23:56):
I think I think mindset is one. But I'm I'm like,
I feel like he feels like he could be at
like a three right now. But I feel like he's
going to get worse. We need to make like Gordon
Ramsey and let him cook, Yes, let him cook to
earn that number one spot.

Speaker 2 (24:11):
I think he's I think he's about to do it.

Speaker 1 (24:12):
Slidy Toad said, sibling is worse. Oh man, Frank the
Puck says, yes, number one.

Speaker 2 (24:18):
Jac says, my uters has slithered up further in my pot.

Speaker 1 (24:21):
Oh god, all right, Tellima says, let's read on. We're
gonna read on. But man, we got our choices cut out.

Speaker 2 (24:29):
Front, truly. Oh man, this is bad, all right.

Speaker 1 (24:33):
So according to my parents, he was persistent and she
told him, weren't you like nineteen when I was born?

Speaker 2 (24:39):
Weirdo? Thank god.

Speaker 1 (24:41):
Now they suspect that somehow I am the mastermind who
brainwashed and told Ella to reject him because of what
I said during dinner, since nobody would really reject their
perfect little boy. They are blowing up my phone, waiting
for me at my job, asking for me at my
college so that I can fix what I did to
make Let's say no and Maker say yes, that's not

(25:03):
how it works. No, I've never talked to that girl.
I'm glad she didn't put up with his bs though
there is nothing to fix. I've done nothing. My mom
is asking me to publicly apologize to my brother at
a little party they're having this weekend, because thanks to me,
our family has labeled him a creep and it probably
got to Ella good. I don't want to do that.

(25:25):
My mom is saying stuff like when I won't be here,
you'll remember what you did to me. My dad says
he regrets having a kid so much later than his
first because I have no manners and a embarrassing how
about the other kid, dude? Also like these parents are
about to take it like what I'm telling them, it's
human decency to understand Adam is creepy. But they're calling

(25:45):
me a hater and demanding I apologize or they'll cut contact.

Speaker 2 (25:50):
Am I thea hole for embarrassing him.

Speaker 1 (25:52):
I honestly don't see how, but I need some insight
from others. And I'm going to show this post to
my parents since they swear I'm chronically online. There is
an update post. There is an update post, but oh
my god. For everyone who's just joining in, we're ranking
the worst nice guys on the internet. The nice guy
that we read before was a nice guy sibling that

(26:14):
slid into op's significant other dms with the cringiest pickup
lines and thirstiest messages and just downride creepy stuff. And
so we have like a is slipping into your sibling
significant others dms with creepy messages worse than asking out
the nineteen year old neighbor that when you're thirty eight

(26:37):
with this quote again this I'm gonna go this quote
running back the meat one men get their life together
and went around. This is not me thinking this, by
the way, just this is the no one take this
quote out of context, then get their life together and
went around. My age is successful. We want new meat
to have children with who carry our line on real

(26:57):
young women who are brtle. Wow, Sam, I know you
thought like that stop that flip it clip is okay? Okay,
I have in all seriousness, I have the reason why
which one's worse.

Speaker 2 (27:08):
I have the reason why that one's working. We have
an update. He kept persisting the other guy.

Speaker 1 (27:13):
He was like, oh, he like went crazy, and then
I guess she eventually blocked in. But it felt like
there was like a stopping point with his and it
was just messages versus he's going up to her in
real life and keep asking you out, keep assing a out,
keep asking. Yeah, he was persistent, and that's weird. Persistent, irl.
That is where the creep factor goes to one thousand.

Speaker 2 (27:32):
The safety is a huge concern. The mindset is whack.
The mindset so that I think we should place him.

Speaker 1 (27:38):
Right now the top number one worst nice guy, That's
what I'm thinking.

Speaker 2 (27:42):
Okay, it's in order.

Speaker 4 (27:44):
I told my brother he's a creep.

Speaker 1 (27:46):
All right, So we're gonna put this at the number
one spot right now. Yeah, I'm locking here. You do
the honors. But y'all, I think this one can get worse.
Right now we're putting at the number one spot. We
might we might have someone. We have two more stories
after this, so there might be someone who's worse. We
have this guy the number one spot. This is creeper,

(28:07):
given a presentation on how creepy is. But let's get
into the update. Let's do it all right. So next day,
I said in the previous posts, I made that post
a show to my parents because they were saying that
nobody genuinely agrees with me, and my family was just
led astray by me. I wrote that very late and
went to sleep and woke up only a few hours
later because I had to meet my parents at this
place near my work before I go to work so

(28:27):
we could talk. Also, sorry about the chat thing. I
haven't used read it before, so I accidentally posted with
a live chat and had no idea what I did.
I was sleeping, my parents informed me that my brother
had been harassing Ella on social media, making posts about
her and threatening her boyfriend starting in a relationship. Just
found out she had one through my parents. I hadn't
contacted them much the last three to four days, so

(28:49):
I hadn't really caught up on the drama. They also
asked Ella if she had talked to me, and she
told them the truth that we've never spoken to each other.
Ella threatened a restraining order because my brother can't handle rejection,
so you can imagine how that works when they live
next door. Her parents are apparently furious, and mine decided
to ask the priest at our local church for his opinion,

(29:09):
since he disagreed with their behavior and they're very religious.
They've backed down a bit. However, the real reason my
parents are mad at me, according to my dad, is
the family pride. I honestly don't even want an explanation.
My mother told me she still hates me for what
I did. My father said that he wants no contact
with me for shaming family in front of others and disagree.

(29:33):
How is o p the one you're saying is shaming
your family when you have another son that's literally harassing
a young woman.

Speaker 4 (29:42):
Yeah, out in the luce?

Speaker 2 (29:43):
How's wrong with your brains?

Speaker 1 (29:45):
Asked the pastor that, hey, who which of my son
should I cut off?

Speaker 2 (29:50):
Hmmm?

Speaker 1 (29:51):
Oh my god, so he says, poor Ella, I would
cry if this happens to me.

Speaker 2 (29:56):
I would cry. It's happened to me too.

Speaker 1 (29:57):
I'm already crying, Oh my god, in front of others,
and disagreed to apologize. But he'll pay for my last
two years of college because he's done way more for
my brother financially, and that's only fair in his eyes. Honestly,
there's nothing more than I need. I didn't even bother
with the post because they had made up their minds,
and my mom never liked me much, so I expected
her to be completely against me. I was already thinking
about backup plans regarding my college, but I'm glad it

(30:19):
didn't get to that since the priest disagreed with them.
To save family pride and repetition, they have given me,
my brother and brother a few months to move to
his own place that will pay for Probably this came
as a shocker to me. My mom said that if
I wasn't jealous of my brother, it wouldn't have come
to her baby boy leaving the nest at thirty eight.
I reminded her that he's almost forty, and she started screaming,

(30:42):
so my dad had to take her and leave. Afterwards,
I went to work, then had to attend two late
lectures after work. When I came home, I was drained
for people finding it hard to believe because my parents' reactions.
Look through the comments of my previous posts. There's people
who side with my brother and call me all sorts
of names. So you get the picture. But you know
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(31:03):
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(31:24):
in his number one production and.

Speaker 2 (31:25):
He's he's right where he belongs. He's locked in.

Speaker 4 (31:29):
Also, it sucks that the parents are religious, because if
you are religious, then you need to make your children
arrows very sharp, like straight in pointed arrows, so then
you can send them off.

Speaker 1 (31:40):
Yeah, that's how it works, that's what we're told to do.
But also, like the priest was like, y'are crazy. Yeah,
go back to them, please, please go back to them.

Speaker 2 (31:49):
Like about you.

Speaker 1 (31:50):
The Priese is like, dude, like you gotta gottatar under control.
And all the people who side with my brother because
they like his perfect woman Ida, just because you try
to normalize weird stuff doesn't mean it's normal. Plenty were
saying that they didn't understand why I reacted so fast
in that way. My entire childhood, my brother has been
an adult, and up until I was a teenager, I've

(32:11):
never been able to talk to him because of how
much older he was. He was always annoyed by my
presence anywhere because I was a kid. Now, put yourself
in my shoes it's just weird. It's not sad about
the no contact situation. I know that it was very
impulsive to explode in front of others, but I didn't
want any of the younger people around the table to
think that's okay, because it isn't. It's objectifying and humiliating.

(32:31):
I have a job and apartment and plenty of friends.
I won't be lonely and won't be grieving the fact
that my parents don't want me around. It's their choice,
and that's where that story ends. Yeah, I feel ranked
number one of the past three stories for sure.

Speaker 2 (32:45):
Number one.

Speaker 1 (32:45):
I mean, let me know if anyone thinks number two
was worse or number four, you know, unpopular opinion. Maybe
we do a quick pull. Have we ranked all of
them appropriately so far?

Speaker 2 (32:55):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (32:55):
And again to run it back, we have number one
trying to date to neighbor. At number two we have
the guy who is dming all of his siblings partners.
And number four was the guy who was a childhood
friend or the childhood friend mutual who was rejected.

Speaker 2 (33:11):
He didn't really do much. He just kind of was like, Eh,
you don't but we got two more stories for you.

Speaker 1 (33:16):
Oh, so it could be could all change, everything could
move around.

Speaker 2 (33:20):
So we're gonna find out if that's what happens. Let's see.
Am I ready, Riley, go for it. Hey, it's John here, og,
host of the show. We're gonna get back to these
juicy stories. But here's a quick three minutes of ads
from our sponsors. I demanded my friend's block a girl
because she rejected me. Ohps, the nice guy himself. So
this isn't a.

Speaker 1 (33:37):
Black and white thing, obviously, because I met this girl, Jen,
who showed every sign of being into me or flat
out saying it, and we hung out enough that I.

Speaker 2 (33:46):
Actually let her meet my friends.

Speaker 1 (33:48):
Oh king, Oh my gosh, you are so gracious sweet life.

Speaker 2 (33:52):
To his inner circle in a sanctum. I gave it
to the greatest gift of it. Oh man, we're already
dunking on this guy two sentences in.

Speaker 3 (34:00):
Now, this girl is apparently off according to my friends,
and while she added them and wanted to hang out,
they were visually not very into this girl.

Speaker 1 (34:08):
Whatever that means. I kept on living my life though,
until I made my move.

Speaker 2 (34:12):
Okay, by the way, this comes from sweaty Um Slash
Okay story. Oh Away. This guy's name is sweaty um.

Speaker 1 (34:20):
I asked her out and she gave me that friend stick.
I was surprised and honestly a bit outraged. Y outrage
when you get rejected, that's the best that's the best response.

Speaker 2 (34:31):
It's so healthy.

Speaker 1 (34:32):
Yeah, and also it'll like change things.

Speaker 2 (34:34):
It's gonna work.

Speaker 1 (34:35):
So yeah, if you yell at someone enough, they will
love you. That's that's the one thing that I want
to communicate to the world.

Speaker 2 (34:42):
Clip it, since she had sewn so many signs that
she was into me as well. After getting over the
sort of pissed the heck off a newly rejected stage,
I texted all my friends basically saying, well, Jen was
a total flop. You're all free to unfriend her if
you like, since I knew they didn't really care for her. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (35:00):
Yeah, it's like, oh, you know, when I thought I
was going to get with you, that was that was great.
But now that you just aren't into me romantically, I
have to like blast put you.

Speaker 2 (35:10):
On blast and get everyone cut you off. Oh god. Yeah,
he clearly was was into her from a not just
for you know, what is that? I don't know what
the curves, oh the curves I did I did away
for you visual for you non visual viewers, So just
sort of giving them my blessings on something they'd probably
do anyways. Wow. I followed suit. Of course.

Speaker 1 (35:31):
The morning after, I woke up to an angry phone
call from Jen saying all my friends had blocked her
and that I was a petty piece of crap for
making them cut her off like that. I tried explaining
my side that they did it quite willingly, but she
never really stopped being angry. This was Monday, and she's
still giving me death clears when I walk by?

Speaker 2 (35:49):
Walk by? Where where are they both being a class?
Maybe we were talking about school, maybe not, but I
was I was getting some school like college energy, So
could be wrong, could be right?

Speaker 1 (36:01):
Am I the A hole for telling my friends to
unfront her? Knowing them they probably would have done it
out of loyalty, especially in this case where they didn't
like her to begin with. She super pissed, thinks I'm
the pettiest a hole in the world, it seems, but
she came out like with a million arguments, so I
can't even pick one to de bait.

Speaker 2 (36:17):
Am I the A hole? Let's first answer this question
before we get into relevant comments. Yeah, I mean, like, yeah,
you're the a hole.

Speaker 1 (36:23):
You shouldn't have like said blocker because I'm no longer interested.
But like, realistically, you're bringing a new partner into a
friend group and they just met that person for the
first time. They're probably going like you, we're probably side
with you or like or at least like they might
not put much effort into that new relationship. So I mean,

(36:45):
I don't I think you became an a hole by
do it, like saying like you should like maybe block her,
And I think if you hadn't done that, maybe the
effect would have been the same, But yeah, you kind
of made yourself an a hole by doing that.

Speaker 2 (36:58):
The thing that drives me insane is that like he
knows what he's doing by telling all the friends. He's like, well,
they made their own decision by this zone.

Speaker 1 (37:06):
But it's like, bro, you literally told them like, hey,
go ahead and unfriender and block or if you went everywhere,
of course you know they're probably gonna do that because,
like you said, they're friends first. Yeah, I do also
think it's like I feel like, I mean, I feel
like he did what he did was whack. But if
I was invited to, like a romantic partner's friend group
or something and then was friend zoned. I wouldn't like

(37:27):
yell at that person for telling her friends to block me.
I would just be like, all right, I guess like
I'm not going to try to get into this new
friend group totally because you're saving and preserving your personal energy.
But also like it's kind of like bro needs to learn. Yeah,
I mean it is. His behavior is whack. Yeah, I
don't think it's worth her time to like be friends

(37:49):
with these people that are probably like they don't seem
like they're great people.

Speaker 2 (37:53):
Yeah, I don't know.

Speaker 1 (37:54):
I don't feel like it's worth worth it. Kere says,
but why would they all block her? I'm pretty sure
he said drop her. Yeah I did not hear block.
They did on their own, like they he like.

Speaker 2 (38:03):
So.

Speaker 1 (38:05):
Yeah, yeah, he he blasted it to everyone. If they
all blocked her, like, why does he even need to
announce it?

Speaker 5 (38:11):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (38:12):
I think he's given off nice guy vibes.

Speaker 1 (38:13):
But of the nice guys that we have have gone through,
I think he is the least uh, he's the least
worst nice guy.

Speaker 3 (38:21):
I actually want to put him at three the other
right because because of his sneaky behavior, you know.

Speaker 1 (38:27):
Yeah, but the other the other guy was like, like
he did it consistently, Like so number four, who we
have at number four? This was the guy that you know,
I was like, oh, like, let's just like I love you.
And then she's like, hey, you know, let's let's see.
Let's hold it up Romeo, let's see how it goes.
And then she's like, ah, yeah, it's just gonna be friends.
And then every couple months, like he said, I love you,
I love you, I love you, like I'm into you,

(38:48):
and she kept rejecting him, and then was super disrespectful
to her and so so much so that his longtime
best friend was like, hey, I'm not gonna be friends
with you anymore. So like for that reason, I feel
like number four happened over a much longer time, and
so I think it's I think it's five, but I
would love to know what do you think, John Poll?

Speaker 2 (39:09):
Paul? Three or five?

Speaker 1 (39:10):
Yeah? Do you think we should put it at three
or five?

Speaker 2 (39:13):
Paul? Let us know, guide us, guide us on the map,
and we will place where you decide.

Speaker 1 (39:18):
Do we have more to the story? Oh heck yeah, okay, yeah,
let us know. We're gonna put a pull up three
or five.

Speaker 3 (39:24):
Let's get into it relevant comments Foebel Schmobile says judge,
Jury and executioner. Some people do that with their friends.
Don't wait to ask out someone until you're romantically interested
for long enough for them to become attached to your friendship.

Speaker 2 (39:38):
Next time. Oh, and you're the A hole.

Speaker 1 (39:41):
I think that's I think that's great advice and also
a great stip, like, like, you are also the a hole. Well,
op responds, maybe, but if you're that touchy, I honestly
think you'd have to specify that you weren't interested more
than if you were basically like, oh, just you know,
you got a make sure you because remembery, He's like, oh,

(40:01):
she showed me all these signs and all this stuff,
and it's like, bro, you're just like reading it.

Speaker 3 (40:05):
She didn't say anything. You're like reading reading. You gotta ask,
you gotta ask, and you can't assume. That's the most
dangerous thing that happened.

Speaker 2 (40:12):
I think. So it's a quick comment that Opie responds.

Speaker 1 (40:13):
So the comment is, first off, unless the and crap
from above was more than just touching a chest or
stroking hair, and if she is that touchy with all
our friends? Then why would she think to preempt it
with Oh, by the way, this is totally potonic, you.

Speaker 2 (40:25):
Know, like, oh, she's kind of handsy with everyone.

Speaker 1 (40:26):
Why would you be like, oh, hey, no, I'm not
into Second off, you were interested in her, so why
didn't you specify that you weren't interested? Well, Opie says,
we hung out enough that I actually let her meet
my friends.

Speaker 2 (40:37):
Seriously, why didn't you ask her how sooner? If you
hang out with.

Speaker 3 (40:40):
Someone long enough in a purely friendlike manner, then you
can't expect them not to just consider you a friend.
Opie responds with, because who the f was that touchy
with the opposite gender like that? Anyway, it's not about that,
it's about the unfriending part that she was going nuts over,
not what happened before. So the commenter replies, if she
had treated you badly, then your stance would be justifiable.

(41:02):
But if she was just nice to you and you
over invested while not actually doing anything about it a
ways down the line, then this situation is of your
own making, which makes you the a hole. And then
a commenter says, what happened before is that you cause
her to believe you were her friend, introduced her to
the friend group in a way, then pretend to like
her because you were interested in her, which they all
already knew.

Speaker 2 (41:22):
She just thought she'd made new friends. It's like, oh,
I made one friend.

Speaker 3 (41:25):
They introduced me to a group right, and then pulled
the carpet from out under her as soon as she
turned you down. Of course, she's upset you and your
friends seem to like her, so from her perspective, these
people who used to like her suddenly unfriended her. Of
course she thinks you turned them against her, and it
would honestly be more cruel at this point to point
out that they never did what happened before informed her
perceptions of what happened after, And if you'd been more
honest and upfront, then she never would have come to

(41:47):
believe that your friends were her friends. You know, unless
your friends are a holes, it's generally a good idea
not to try to date people they can't really stand.

Speaker 1 (41:55):
It'll go south eventually. If they are a holes, then
you just need better friends. She'll get over being angry.
It's been only two days. She probably won't like you
Slash be particularly friendly towards you, but she won't be
angry about this forever. Just use this as a learning
experience and we're going to end it there. Yeah, what
did the poll say? I'm curious. We got twenty five votes.

(42:15):
One hundred percent of chat voted for placing it at five.

Speaker 2 (42:20):
I agree, I can't argue with a unanimous decision.

Speaker 1 (42:22):
I agree for that, but TLDR basically a guy met
this girl and invited herr to hang out with his
friend group. They all hung out, and then he asked
her out because he was like, oh, I like, I
kind of like her. Then she rejected him, and then
he told all of his friends like, oh, you should
probably just like block her and unfront her. And then
they all unfront her and she's like super pissed and

(42:42):
she's like, why did you do that? Like I thought
we were all friends and and that's.

Speaker 2 (42:47):
Kind of where it ended. One hundred percent.

Speaker 1 (42:49):
So I think that one is pretty you know, he's
an a hole. He's a nice guy, but of the
ones we've read so far, he is the least worst
nice guy.

Speaker 2 (42:58):
But we do have one more chance for someone to
usurp our friend new meat, who was trying to date
the girl twenty years younger than This is our final
chance to see if this is the worst nice guy
of all time.

Speaker 1 (43:11):
All right, we got the last worst nice guy, and
we'll see where he rags. Chantal Schneider says, if I
was the girl, I would have been upset too.

Speaker 2 (43:20):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (43:21):
Especially I have that last commenter phrased it. It was
like like this idea that you, you know, you would
invite this person in in the context of like, oh,
let's all be friends, and then change the context of
what the relationship is. I feel like that's not cool.
Frank the Pug says, pretty tame. Overall, I do agree.
I think this is like an order of magnitude less
worse than all the other ones, which is why we're
raking it five. But let's see what this next one is.

(43:43):
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Speaker 1 (43:53):
I'm the nicest, So I've got a thing for a
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Speaker 2 (43:59):
She feels the same way.

Speaker 1 (44:00):
After all, we've got a ton in common video games movies,
et cetera. She says hi to me and we talk
every day, or at least we used to. Sure about
that problem is her friends are toxic af and keep
telling me she's not into me and it's only being
nice to be out of politeness. She doesn't really talk
to me anymore, only a passing way for greeting, and
any conversation I try to make with her is cut short.

(44:21):
This is obviously due to her friends telling her not
to interact with me, probably not because she isn't interested
in you, but you know, we'll see. By the way,
this comes from deleted on Best of Better to updates
about it. So I've asked her out multiple times, but
she keeps giving me excuses like she's busy or she
has to hang out with friend. Dude, Yeah, she's probably
just busy or has to hang out with friends. She
definitely likes you.

Speaker 2 (44:40):
Yeah, yeah, of course she's in love with you.

Speaker 1 (44:42):
She's in love with you, she's just shy about it.
It's pretty clear her friends are forcing her to hang
out with them instead of me because they're jealous of
her and want her to stay single. They even force
her to tell me she wasn't interested when I straight
up asked her to be my girlfriend, they forced her
again listen to that. They forced her to tell me
that's she wasn't interested. Dude, I feel bad for her. Honestly,

(45:03):
she must feel like these friends are the only friends
she'll ever have, and that's why she's so loyal to them.
I tried telling her that she shouldn't listen to her friends,
but she denied that she was and ended up blocking me.
Really sad that they're putting her through this? What should
I do? As much as I don't want to ruin
some of her friendship, it's pretty clare. They're not real
friends and I'm the only real friend for her. And yes,

(45:24):
she's definitely into me, after all, she has no logical
reason not to be. We have the same interest, and
I know she's not shall enough to reject me purely
based on looks.

Speaker 2 (45:34):
I mean, this is like, is it the most egregious
thing that's happened so far?

Speaker 4 (45:40):
No?

Speaker 3 (45:40):
But this is literally when you look up like nice
guy in the textbook definition, this is like what it is,
all right, but.

Speaker 2 (45:47):
Like, really quick, let's give some grace.

Speaker 1 (45:49):
This guy's seventeen, Like, yeah, he's a nice guy, but
he is seventeen, and so he is a child, almost
grown child.

Speaker 2 (45:57):
But uh yeah, man.

Speaker 4 (46:01):
Where does he go? Comment? Where he goes?

Speaker 2 (46:02):
Guys? Yeah yeah, commonest place.

Speaker 4 (46:04):
I feel like solid three right now.

Speaker 1 (46:07):
I think we probably need to rearrange.

Speaker 2 (46:09):
I think there's a rearrange.

Speaker 1 (46:10):
Car. I think I think we moved foward to three
and this guy to four.

Speaker 4 (46:14):
But this is textbook. This is the definition.

Speaker 2 (46:16):
Text hasn't done anything. He hasn't done anything yet. Egregious yet.

Speaker 4 (46:20):
But this was kind of long.

Speaker 2 (46:21):
Okay, we got a lot.

Speaker 1 (46:23):
Tracy Aisen says, number two, you think this guy is
worse than the person that was sliding into the DMS
of siblings?

Speaker 2 (46:31):
Get out of here. Emily says, not seventeen is old
enough to know not to be a creep.

Speaker 1 (46:34):
I mean, of course, but he also is. He's on
the younger side, he's not thirty eight. Men are dumb,
very very especially the young ones, especially the young ones.
Hopefully they get less goid with age. Title is self explanatory.
So this is the update. This girl who I mentioned
before from my last post is pretending she doesn't like
me what she obviously does. As my last post state

(46:55):
and her friends were trying to keep us apart. I
guess they have some kind of grudge against me for
some reason. They kept telling me to leave her alone,
that she isn't into me. I knew they were lying
because she never told me that. She expressed interest in
me by saying hi to me every day, laughing at
my jokes, and expressing interest in the same stuff I'm into,
such as the Joker movie, Tarantino, and the Smiths.

Speaker 2 (47:16):
Of course that's his favorite stuff.

Speaker 1 (47:18):
Sadly, she eventually told me she wasn't interested in block
me after I asked her out, something her friends obviously
made her do. She's still acting like she's not into me, though,
although now I feel she's trying to test me to
see how far I'll go to be with her. Oh God,
I'm trying to express to her that I really do
like her and that I'll do anything for her to
go out with me, but it's not working. What do
I do for her to get over this charade? And

(47:40):
it met her obvious feelings for me? An update two,
starting to feel like Arthur Fleck, Who the heck is that.

Speaker 2 (47:46):
We gonna find out? Chat?

Speaker 1 (47:47):
I swear everyone in my life is out to get
me first. I get bullied at school for no reason. Other, dude,
this guy is such a freaking textbook nice guy.

Speaker 2 (47:56):
It's like a freakin' oh.

Speaker 1 (47:57):
H God himself, the joker bro bro thinks he is
he he is using this to create his own Joker
story arc.

Speaker 2 (48:08):
He's using this to create his own Joker story arc.
Oh god, how do we? I forgot?

Speaker 1 (48:12):
Lt I forgot how we say that in the Japanese.
But yeah, this guy, he's going to turn into a
stalker or worse. Yeah, I do feel like he's he's
in is like his Yeah yeah me make says this
thought process is creepy. I feel like that's what we're getting.
But nothing bad, like nothing like terrible has happened yet.
But it is Caitlevin Camp And you're right, God villain

(48:35):
origin story.

Speaker 4 (48:36):
Dude, this feels like you in that in Joe from you.

Speaker 1 (48:40):
I was really I was really concerned that you were
adding me.

Speaker 2 (48:43):
Right now, we're like, what have I done? What have
I done? Like this? Yes, the show you on Netflix?
Okay say that.

Speaker 1 (48:51):
One, thank god? But yeah we got we got an update. Yeah,
it's it's creepy. It's creepy. So I swear everyone in
my life is able to get me first to get
bullied at school for no other reason being short. When
this girl gives me the illusion that she likes me
just so her friends can bully me for wanting to
get with her, then she tells me she never liked
me in the first place, and nothing she was doing
could be considered flirting or genuine want for companionship. Yeah,

(49:11):
effing right. You don't constantly laugh at guy's jokes, tell
him how you're sure he'll find someone somewhere. That's literally
her trying to tell you, oh, yeah, you'll find somebody
else friend and waived him every time you see him
if you don't like him, especially if you've got a
ton in common with him and you two would make
a perfect couple. To make things worse, I've been getting

(49:32):
bullied on Reddit for asking for advice on how to
ask her out. One user even went so far as
to call me a monster, saying I deserve to pass
away alone. I have no idea what I did to
incur the wrath of these trolls, but it's probably because
I mentioned I was shorts and they automatically assumed I
was an insult. I am a virgin who prefer not

(49:52):
to be, but I didn't call myself an insult until recently.
And it's all and it's all the fault of these trolls.
I don't know what to do. All I want to
say is I hope I have an Arthur Fleck, a
moment where I rise up and become beloved by those
like me who have been downtrodden and stepped on their
entire lives. Not saying I want anything violent to happen,
but I genuinely am starting to feel like the Joker.

(50:13):
Anyone else feel this way? And there's an update where
OPI has turned from a seventeen year old into an
eighteen year old.

Speaker 2 (50:20):
Oh god, he's legal.

Speaker 1 (50:22):
Yeah, this is giving like major major red flags.

Speaker 2 (50:26):
Yeah, this is so.

Speaker 4 (50:27):
I mean, does this step into two territories?

Speaker 2 (50:30):
No, it doesn't something that two territory.

Speaker 4 (50:33):
Of everything.

Speaker 1 (50:34):
I think he's between what we have as four and
five right now.

Speaker 2 (50:38):
He could be three.

Speaker 1 (50:39):
He could be I'm curious what you guys think I'm
putting he acts, Yeah, if he if he acts, I'll
move him to three. Can we see if he acts,
I'll move into three. Right now, I feel like he's
between what was the what was number five? Five was
asking out the girl in college and then like having
all his friends block her, and four is ruined the

(51:01):
relationship with the childhood best friend. That's where the mutual
was introduced. Yeah, the mutual was introduced and and basically
she kind of broke up like that that relationship, not
through any fault of her own, just because that guy
was like super obsessed with her.

Speaker 2 (51:14):
Yeah, the stalker territory is. Yeah, I feel like he's
about to do something, you know what.

Speaker 1 (51:18):
I actually, now that I think about it, I do
think it is worse than four because of the mindset.
So I think it's entering three territory.

Speaker 3 (51:25):
Guy was just kind of like arguing with the friends.
But this guy is like really really really getting deep
deep deep.

Speaker 2 (51:30):
De Yeah, No, I do think we're right. I do
you think right?

Speaker 1 (51:33):
Although he hasn't done it, I feel like coming from her,
she probed thinks too at least.

Speaker 4 (51:38):
Yeah, if we got her perspective of everything, yeah, because
we got a mile down from his perspective.

Speaker 3 (51:44):
Yeah, because honestly, four, I think they did. Did they
go out ever? And then she was like, or like,
are they progressed? They just progressed in their friendships?

Speaker 1 (51:51):
No, Yeah, they were friends. This guy is even friends
with this girl. Yeah, you're right, you know you're You're
totally right. I think I think we're out of three
right now. If he makes anything, I think we we could,
we could. If he does anything, I think we could
push this up to it too. But right now I'm
saying three and chat. Maybe it seems like we're debating
between three and four. I see I see some rawrak

(52:11):
king saying three or four the solitary one. I'm not
saying one yet. Yeah, but we'll see, we'll see. So update,
I eighteen male am thinking of cat fishing this girl.
I'm talking to eighteen female in order for her to
safely confess her feelings to me.

Speaker 2 (52:28):
There's the action. There's the action. We'll see too.

Speaker 4 (52:31):
We'll see it straight to two.

Speaker 2 (52:33):
If it works, god one. If it works, oh god.

Speaker 1 (52:38):
It reminds me of that TikTok where it's like today,
I'm trying to cat day. I'm seeing how many times
I could catfish the same guy.

Speaker 4 (52:45):
Dude. I saw that one he stole a bunch of
line by bike scooters and put him in his house.

Speaker 1 (52:51):
Dude's nuts in the guy line bikes, all right, all right,
Are you guys ready? This is getting We're like only
halfway through. I made a few posts on here about
this girl I've got a thing for. Basically, she's made
it really obvious that she likes me, the way she
laughs at my jokes and says hi to me. However,
her toxic friends are jealous of me and are trying

(53:11):
to prevent her from dating me. They have forced her
to turn down my every advance, even when she's alone
and I'm texting her. She denies that it's her friends
doing this and that she's really just not interested. But
I know, I know she's just covering for them because
she feels controlled by them. After all, she's giving obvious
signs she likes me, and she has no logical reason
not to. I figure that I could pretend to be
someone else, set up a date with her, and when

(53:33):
we're alone together, she can confess her feelings to me.
Her friends won't know because they think it's somebody else.
Is this a good idea? No, this is a terrible idea.
At least he's asking, all right, this is unhinge behavior, radish,
I agree, But at least he's asking if he should do.

Speaker 2 (53:49):
It, and he hasn't already done it. At least he's
to keep reading. Please no trolls this time.

Speaker 1 (53:55):
A lot of past posts were invaded by trolls saying
dumb crap like loll she does like you or leave
her alone. I'm not going to listen to any of that.
BS advice up date for quick pull from chat and
from the commons. Do you think this guy is going
to catfish this person? Oh yeah, that's update four. Short

(54:16):
men are the.

Speaker 2 (54:16):
Most oppressed group in America, but nobody cares. Oh you
think he can't get worse and then he does. Dude, dude.

Speaker 1 (54:26):
I see social justice movements all over social media meant
to help oppressed groups, and yet, and yet, and yet,
there is no.

Speaker 2 (54:35):
Movement for the rights of short men like myself. Where
is it?

Speaker 1 (54:38):
And unlike those groups, short men are actually systematically discriminated against.
Whereas it is illegal for a company to not hire
someone because of their race or gender, or for a
church today save this marriage, it is perfectly socially acceptable
and even normalized for a woman to turn us down
currently because of our height, to nothing else. This is

(55:00):
is complete and out RBS that should be changed immediately.
I'm not saying those other groups don't deserve equal treatment.
But I am saying there are people who call themselves
fighters for social justice who denied the struggles. How short
men need to be called out for the hypocrisy and
they think the world revolves around him Martin Luther Short

(55:22):
over here, my god, Short or short Short or Shark
King JR.

Speaker 2 (55:34):
Oh Man.

Speaker 1 (55:37):
Well, if you want to be the king of our world,
you should uh listen to our podcasts everywhere you will
listen to podcasts. Just search Okay story Timing, listen while
you do other stuff you know, and have us in
your ears. Just look up Okay Storytime or Apple podcasts,
Spotify every year podcast.

Speaker 4 (55:51):
I just put a poll in YouTube chant with four
options two, three, four, five, put there which one this
guy should be? In?

Speaker 1 (56:00):
Which we put one? I've been seeing people say one,
But there's no way he's worse one. He can't be
worse than one.

Speaker 4 (56:06):
Right, forty year old asking a nineteen year old.

Speaker 1 (56:08):
Yeah, and like to the point where there's a restraining order.
At least this guy hasn't been official yet.

Speaker 4 (56:13):
Like he's just if we get in a restraining order,
I'll redo the pull. Yeah, but we're at eighty percent
to Yeah, sure he did get.

Speaker 1 (56:21):
A there's another relevant update? Oh god, and let's get
into it.

Speaker 2 (56:25):
Oh No.

Speaker 1 (56:26):
Update five reported for offensive photo multiple times, but Instagram
won't take it down. What should I do? The girl
who posted it didn't outright say anything offensive about it,
and maybe it wasn't even attention by personally found it
very offensive. I tried messaging her about it, but she
refused to listen to me and ended up blocking me.
I even tried messaging Instagram admins, but they didn't listen
to me either. Do the people who run Instagram only

(56:46):
care about offensive things when they can get brownie points
for being performative activists? Can this sub help me out?
I wasn't sure where to post this question, so I
figured I post it in the general advice sub And
there's an irrelevant comment a picture of her kissing her
boyfriend and flaunting it in everyone's face.

Speaker 2 (57:04):
Dude, she has a boyfriend now.

Speaker 1 (57:07):
I normally don't get bothered by offensive humor, but this
feels specifically targeted towards me. Since I was rejected by her,
she shouldn't be able to post this as it is
hurtful to me and to other men. She's rejected. I'm sure.
As I've said before, it's a kid to dangling a
delicious steak in front of a starving, homeless man's face.
If she doesn't have a logical reason why she chose

(57:29):
this guy over me or someone else with intelligence, she
shouldn't be with him at all, much less be posting
about him for the entire world to see.

Speaker 2 (57:37):
Who is this guy?

Speaker 1 (57:38):
Oh man, he is a lost seventeen year old boy
looking for help in all the wrong corners of the internet. Uh,
didn't do any actions yet, he hasn't necessarily done anything,
but the inside of his mind is a terrible twice
so bad. Well, he did all right, well, to be clear,
he did Texas girl enough to the point where she

(57:59):
blocked him.

Speaker 2 (58:00):
This is true.

Speaker 1 (58:00):
And yeah, but he's he's the other guy was forty
and doing this to a nineteen year old in person
in person and got order and got it like I
got a restraining order. So I don't think op And
this one is number one. There's no way he's number one.
There's no way he's number one. I agree number two?
What was number two again? Number two was sliding into

(58:21):
your chat?

Speaker 2 (58:22):
Voted him number one.

Speaker 1 (58:24):
Chat you're saying he's worse than the guy that was
a forty year old stalking a nineteen year old.

Speaker 3 (58:30):
Close though, I think I think chat wants the most
recent story we read. They just want that to be
number one, no matter what story it is.

Speaker 5 (58:37):
Are you serious yet, number one? There's no way the
next option there? Oh, here we go, here we go,
here we go. But they say equal with number two. Yeah,
so come on, guys, you swade the polls. Yeah, all right,
just to be clear, just be clear, and everyone is voted.

Speaker 1 (58:52):
I understand, like this guy is not good right inside
of his mind is bad. Yes, But the story that
we read a few months ago was a forty year
old man persistently approaching his nineteen year old neighbor to
ask her out, to the point where the nineteen year
old felt so uncomfortable that she's talked to his parents,

(59:12):
which a thirty eight year old is still living with,
and said, this guy is stalking me. I need a
restraining order and literally said, you know, as men get
older and are more successful, we need fresh meat, new mo.
That guy is forty and has the same internal dialogue
as OP. Yet we're just like seeing OP of this

(59:35):
last story full internal dialogue. So I feel like it is.
I feel like this one is worse than sliding into
the dms of your sibling significant others, but not as
bad as the forty year old.

Speaker 2 (59:52):
But come on me if you think otherwise.

Speaker 1 (59:54):
Now they've now Chat's changed their tune. Now Chad has
changed their tune. Lexisos in law Len says, as a woman,
I'd rather be pursued by a guy twice my age
repeatedly in whatever way may happen with this guy eventually.

Speaker 4 (01:00:06):
Ah, it's a hot take.

Speaker 2 (01:00:07):
I don't know it's a hot take. I'm in.

Speaker 3 (01:00:09):
But chat now has said they don't think he's number one, okay,
but think he's number two. And as a reminder for everyone,
the current number two spot, my brother never does to
talk to me again because I told him his looks
aren't the reason when I run from him. This is
the guy that was dming all of his siblings' romantic partners.
Yeah right, So who's worse the uh like pre joker

(01:00:30):
right before he becomes a joker, or the brother who
will slide in every single one of your romantic partners.

Speaker 2 (01:00:36):
Deal.

Speaker 1 (01:00:37):
It's it's also hard because like that brother had the
same kind of interternal dialogue as this guy, but actually
like did something about it.

Speaker 2 (01:00:44):
His internal dialogue is worse internal and he asked he
does it.

Speaker 1 (01:00:47):
He's done enough to where this this girl feels uncomfortable,
uncomfortable enough to block him. So I think he has
a worse internal dialogue that we've seen and has done
enough to block. So I'm gonna say, I'm going to
say this last one is at two, and we're gonna
move that that guy to three. But I'm curious, and uh,
and y'all with fifty two percent of the votes say

(01:01:07):
he should be two. Pre joker number two. Bug says,
pre joker number two, insidious mindset. This man has insidious mindset.

Speaker 2 (01:01:15):
Holy Molly.

Speaker 1 (01:01:16):
So there who says this is the start of a
stalker story and it'd be so scared?

Speaker 2 (01:01:20):
Make me? So it's all of these men are number
I'm sorry.

Speaker 1 (01:01:22):
Yeah, no, no, honestly, I wish we could put all
of them at number one. But uh, we have a
final ranking. All right, let's see that ranking. And John,
if you want to give our ranking maybe from least
worse to most worse.

Speaker 2 (01:01:34):
That's right.

Speaker 1 (01:01:35):
So in number five we have I demanded my friend's
block a girl because she rejected me.

Speaker 2 (01:01:39):
That is the guy who.

Speaker 3 (01:01:41):
Told everyone to in his friend group, and it's starting
to low key block The girl didn't do anything as crazy,
but you know, definitely a nice guy. At number four,
I ruined my friend's friendship with a child who best
friend by rejecting him. There was the mutual friend that
was introduced. He was trying to get all up in
Opie's grill and then he just got mad that she
wouldn't get with him.

Speaker 1 (01:01:57):
Right.

Speaker 2 (01:01:57):
Nothing crazy. Number three we were he up here.

Speaker 1 (01:02:00):
My brother never wants to talk to me again because
I told him his looks don't the reason women run
from him, Because that's the brother who is slided in
every one of his siblings romantic partners dms like hey, no,
no girlfriend or boyfriend or husband or wife is safe
from this man. At number two, the man we just met,
our young joker himself, a guy in my class. A

(01:02:20):
girl in my class led me on them rejected me.
But I'm a nice guy. Literally the title says it all.

Speaker 3 (01:02:25):
Yeah, but guys, the number one top worst nice guy
of all time. I told my brother he's a creep
for trying to date our neighbor our friend new Meat,
the forty year old who tried to date the twenty
year old and got a restraining order.

Speaker 1 (01:02:39):
You know, and that's just our ranking with a little
help from Chat. We love Chat. We really, we really
uh we really depend on you Chat for keeping us straight.
So let us know if you think we made the
right decisions. Is our ranking good or do you disagree
with any of our takes?

Speaker 2 (01:02:56):
Let us know.

Speaker 1 (01:02:57):
But with that, I think that's where this episode ends.
So if you love us, make sure to subscribe. We
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