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May 22, 2025 โ€ข 53 mins

As the US federal government drifts further into anti-climate rhetoric and abandons its national and international commitments, can non-state actors hold the line?


With Christiana Figueres away in Vanuatu, Tom Rivett-Carnac and Paul Dickinson take the reins to explore how climate progress is increasingly being driven by - or being left to - businesses and non-profits. They unpack the mounting challenges facing climate-aligned companies, the promise and complexity of existing voluntary initiatives, and the role that the private sector can play in driving innovation, accountability, and ambition in the absence of strong national leadership.


Later, they speak with Helen Clarkson, CEO of the Climate Group, about the shifting reality for businesses trying to lead on climate in the US and beyond. And they ask her to address some of the rumours surrounding Climate Week NYC: Is it happening? Will it definitely be held in New York? And how can it become a beacon of action in an age of political uncertainty?


Plus: Tom and Paul consider the upcoming ruling in a ground-breaking climate liability case with potentially seismic impacts.



Learn more 


โš–๏ธ Details and documents on the Luciano Lliusya v. RWE EG legal case


๐Ÿ›ข๏ธ โ€˜Scientists Tally Oil Majorsโ€™ Climate Damage With Eye to Legal Liabilityโ€™ in Bloomberg


๐Ÿ›‘ โ€˜The End of Rule of Law in Americaโ€™ by J. Michael Luttig, in The Atlantic


๐Ÿ“บ โ€˜Every day I have been shocked and disgustedโ€™ - J. Michael Luttig on MSNBC


๐ŸŒŽ Find out more about Climate Week NYC, or the Climate Groupโ€™s RE100 and EV100



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Video Producer: Caitlin Hanrahan

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