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December 19, 2025 64 mins
Allie welcomes Skillet front man, John Cooper, for a heartfelt Christmas episode. They unpack the backlash to Skillet’s heavy metal “O Come, O Come Emmanuel” and dispel any misconceptions that it is demonic. John shares about his own faith journey from strict legalism to rock gospel and highlights the power of music in evangelism. Amid controversy, John shares how a TV commercial featuring a song by him led two adult industry workers to find Christ and how the death of Charlie Kirk influenced the recording session for Skillet's latest single. Tune in for raw faith, redemption stories, and why true worship defies genre lines. Check out Skillet's music video for "O Come, O Come Emmanuel" here: ⁠https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jiErbpZHfbk⁠ Buy Allie's book "Toxic Empathy: How Progressives Exploit Christian Compassion": ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.toxicempathy.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ --- Timecodes: (00:00) Intro (03:20) New Christmas Song (11:30) Perception of Rock Music (17:20) Dangers of Deconstruction (26:40) Forming the Band Skillet (34:30) Sharing the Gospel on Tour (45:15) False Prosperity Gospel (49:00) Importance of Worship (55:30) State of the Music Industry (59:45) Christ's Second Advent --- Today's Sponsors: A'del — Visit ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠adelnaturalcosmetics.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ and enter the promo code ALLIE for 25% off your first time purchase.   PreBorn — Would you consider a gift to save babies in a big way? Your gift will be used to save countless babies for years to come. To donate, dial #250 and say the keyword BABY or donate securely at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠preborn.com/allie⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. Every Life — Visit ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠everylife.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ and use promo code ALLIE10 to get 10% off your first order today!  Fellowship Home Loans — Visit ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠fellowshiphomeloans.com/allie⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ and start with a free consultation. You’ll even get a $500 credit at closing. Terms apply. See site for details. Carly Jean — Go to ⁠carlyjeanlosangeles.com⁠ and use code ALLIEB for 20% off your order.  Olive — Olive is a food scanning app that exposes what labels don’t, like seed oils, dyes, additives, even hidden toxins. Download Olive now and instantly see what’s hiding in your groceries! --- Episodes you might like:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Ep 1268 | Islamification Update, Christian Music Dominates & Why Women Aren’t Well ⁠https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/relatable-with-allie-beth-stuckey/id1359249098?i=1000737142458⁠ Ep 1223 | The Forrest Frank Formula: Why Christian Music is Trending | Dr. Raymond Lynch ⁠https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/ep-1223-the-forrest-frank-formula-why-christian-music/id1359249098?i=1000719536332⁠ Ep 1121 | Jinger Duggar Vuolo on Escaping People Pleasing & Setting Biblical Boundaries ⁠https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/ep-1121-jinger-duggar-vuolo-on-escaping-people-pleasing/id1359249098?i=1000683836661⁠ Ep 920 | Russell Moore, David French & the Fake Threat of Christian Nationalism | Guest: John Cooper https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/ep-920-russell-moore-david-french-the-fake-threat/id1359249098?i=1000638231068 Ep 316 | Resisting Woke-ism in the Church | Guest: John Cooper ⁠https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/ep-316-resisting-woke-ism-in-the-church-guest-john-cooper/id1359249098?i=1000495518787⁠ --- Buy Allie's book "You're Not Enough (and That's Okay): Escaping the Toxic Culture of Self-Love": ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.alliebethstuckey.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Relatable merchandise: Use promo code ALLIE10 for a discount: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://shop.blazemedia.com/collections/allie-stuckey⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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