2025 Year End Wrap Up (Sort Of) Part. 2 feat. Deante Kyle, JoJo Alonzo & Jason "Jah" Lee | Bonus Episode - Selective Ignorance with Mandii B

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hey, guys, welcome to another episode of Selective Ignorance. However,

(00:03):
before we get to this week's episode, I want to
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Speaker 2 (00:25):
Again.

Speaker 1 (00:26):
That is No Holds Barred, a dual manifesto of sexual
exploration and power, written by yours truly and my co
host of the Decisions Decisions podcast, Weezy. Make sure y'all
get that. Now, let's get to this week's episode.

Speaker 2 (00:38):
This is Mandy Be.

Speaker 1 (00:39):
Welcome to Selective Ignorance, a production of The Black Effect
Podcast Network and Iart Radio. Ya yo yo, it's the
twenty twenty five year in wrap up. Praise right, y'all,
Selective Ignorance, I'm your girl, Mandy B. Hey, y'all, this
time we are talking everything entertainment.

Speaker 2 (00:57):
That's right.

Speaker 1 (00:58):
We are talking movie else, hip hop, televisions, R and
B all things that kind of got you away from
the politics and things of real life. However, somehow we
really act to like we cared about Kendrick versus Drake.
Still in twenty twenty five, we're getting into that and
feuring out on.

Speaker 3 (01:15):
Who we possibly believe took the l on that.

Speaker 2 (01:18):
I think they got it right with. Who won that one?

Speaker 4 (01:21):
Whose day?

Speaker 2 (01:22):
Everyone?

Speaker 1 (01:23):
Luckily too. We also talked about there's an elk, don't
do that. The face of it here are crazy day.

Speaker 2 (01:30):
Okay, y'all.

Speaker 1 (01:31):
I don't even get by in show here because here
we are. But although we're gonna, we're gonna, we're gonna
talk about fallofs and client every day.

Speaker 2 (01:40):
Four.

Speaker 1 (01:41):
Oh all right, welcome y'all. It is part two of
the twenty twenty five wrap up. In y'all, I am
joined actually by one half of my super producers, A
Keen got a mic got listen, y'all don't even know.
In the first episode he was getting coffee and liquor
orders at this point and so he wasn't able to

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join us.

Speaker 3 (02:04):
We miked him up, though.

Speaker 2 (02:05):
So thank you for your service. Man. I'm a five
to two sports.

Speaker 4 (02:09):
Player right here.

Speaker 1 (02:10):
Yeah, and again, if y'all are new yere, because you
might be because the music growing a Kig is a
podcast legend who started off from Combat Jack Show and
now is a part of Black Effect fam as a producer.

Speaker 5 (02:26):
And my super producer Combat Jack Period.

Speaker 1 (02:30):
We also have Jason job Lee period. If you guys
are unfamiliar with him, he is blog era, he is bossip.
He is the guy who made all the headlines that
Mad Jo laugh back in twenty twenty six, and now
he's here getting his voice heard because he does all things.
You can see him on CNN, you can see him
on your timeline as mister hip Hop Obama.

Speaker 3 (02:52):
We got John in the building.

Speaker 1 (02:53):
You sir, Hey, y'all, because I'm a woman with masculine energy,
I'm leaving the best for last, which is the woman
in the building.

Speaker 3 (03:00):
But we're gonna go to the gentleman.

Speaker 1 (03:02):
To my left, who you guys cannot escape because you
are gonna see these dreads and you're gonna hear his thoughts.
We have Dionte Kyle of the Grittinags five cas. You
may also get to see him in Times Square on
a billboard.

Speaker 3 (03:16):
He may be pulling up.

Speaker 1 (03:17):
To a live show near you.

Speaker 2 (03:20):
Okay, period and if you go back, you can.

Speaker 1 (03:24):
Also listen to his interview on the Breakfast Club, which
he just did last week, so make sure y'all check
that out. And then I have I want to Save
my Sister in Crime, but we're on two different radio stations,
which sucks because I am still iHeart. But we have
Jojo Alozzo who is on the d at Al. Y'all
can check her out Monday through Friday seven to.

Speaker 2 (03:44):
Twelve, right.

Speaker 1 (03:45):
She getting y'all out when y'all the ones who don't
have nine to five, She's getting y'all right for the clubs, okay,
or the ones that don't mind going in hungover. She
is also one third of the Broken Play podcast on
Black Effect. By the way, do y'all see I'm getting
better at radio ship. I did that all off.

Speaker 2 (04:01):
And at one point that you hit a radio.

Speaker 5 (04:06):
I was like, oh no, I'm not gonna lie.

Speaker 1 (04:13):
I'm not gonna lie.

Speaker 2 (04:13):
There.

Speaker 1 (04:14):
There's a difference between podcast voice and radio boys, and
I've like been having to do so much.

Speaker 2 (04:19):
Radio with I'm like, damn radio voices. Kind of radio
voice is kind of different.

Speaker 6 (04:23):
But this is not my like I'm talking like this,
this is not how much sound? Give me what's up
with your girl? Joe Joe and my buddy going the game.
Yeah a c l we outside tonight.

Speaker 2 (04:35):
People.

Speaker 3 (04:36):
Now, I don't get to drink.

Speaker 2 (04:37):
On this right now. He's a number seven caller. Are
you running to see a Little Bad?

Speaker 1 (04:45):
Wow, We're just crazy because you're going on tour. I
actually want to go. That was my first concert, so
I'm excited.

Speaker 2 (04:50):
Yeah. I was in the one side to beat for
a Little Bow since the sixth grade. Wait what okay?

Speaker 7 (04:57):
So like me and my girlfriend we just got at
the skate rin every other Friday after school in women's
in North Carolina.

Speaker 5 (05:05):
Oh okay, okay, okay.

Speaker 2 (05:07):
But so like I'm ready, like it's our week.

Speaker 5 (05:10):
And she was like, I'm actually going to Charlotte like
little like a little bittersband.

Speaker 7 (05:16):
It's been small with that nigga that could be Like
I had an art but I had a clip go
viral where I was talking about that ship and he
reposted it like like.

Speaker 5 (05:27):
I was like, and it's still smell that is shot now.

Speaker 2 (05:34):
No, he's still he goes but just bow out. Now
he's still bow out.

Speaker 1 (05:38):
He for like, can I can I tell you? Can
I tell you the problem?

Speaker 2 (05:44):
Wait? Wait? Can I tell you?

Speaker 3 (05:46):
Can I tell you the problem.

Speaker 1 (05:47):
With my fandom. Actually, I got cussed out this year
for forgetting my friend of twenty years her birthday because
it's it's like right before labor day. But anyways, I
was in Jamaica during her birthday and didn't do the
whole posting thing right, and so I was mad because
I was like, I don't be remembering nobody's birthday. You
want to know the crazy part birthday March night, I

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was like, different super fan got question, he's a Gemini
eighty seven, I think, look, don't ask me. Oh, So
I was.

Speaker 2 (06:22):
Question real quick, girls be doing like why'll be falling
out over like that?

Speaker 3 (06:25):
Why would we be falling out of what?

Speaker 2 (06:27):
I don't?

Speaker 6 (06:27):
I don't.

Speaker 2 (06:27):
I well, you know what in my phone calendar? I
don't know.

Speaker 1 (06:32):
So I told her that. I said, I need you
to send me a phone like a calendar and a at.

Speaker 2 (06:38):
It for every year.

Speaker 1 (06:39):
I said to the iPhone, like, I can't remember everyone's birthdays.
And to be fair, the only way I remember people's
birthdays is if they do their whole reposting of everyone
saying happy birthday.

Speaker 3 (06:51):
That's it, mind you, mind you.

Speaker 6 (06:54):
It's okay to forget a birthday.

Speaker 2 (06:56):
Bro, we're not in high school. You're not twenty one.

Speaker 7 (07:00):
If you above twenty one, let him rock.

Speaker 1 (07:04):
Mind you, mind you. The reason why I also didn't
get it is because I was at a fucking sex
resort where we was naked all day and so ain't
nobody had their phones? So I was like, girl, I
was a day late. But I was like, my bad,
I was.

Speaker 2 (07:19):
I was.

Speaker 1 (07:19):
I didn't have nowhere to put my phone.

Speaker 6 (07:22):
You ain't you ain't get you ain't see no signs.
She wasn't posting like it's almost my birthday.

Speaker 1 (07:26):
She don't be posting like that.

Speaker 6 (07:29):
Didn't tell you?

Speaker 1 (07:30):
So it's crazy.

Speaker 6 (07:31):
Yes, they yes, but they put you on like, oh
it's no.

Speaker 3 (07:35):
Well, and that's the problem.

Speaker 1 (07:36):
My friend that I introduced her to made it to
say happy birthday, but I thought she died. She said
that the nigga room all night. I didn't know where
she was. I had the Jamaican police trying to find her.
She was just getting her back blown out. So it
was tricky. It was tricky.

Speaker 2 (07:49):
That day was a lot going on.

Speaker 6 (07:51):
Listen, I'm asking is did you have prior notice? Did
you know that prior to her birthday was coming up?

Speaker 1 (07:57):
No?

Speaker 3 (07:57):
I mean, I just know it wasn't it. It wasn't
re Then you get a past.

Speaker 1 (08:01):
She was on a trip. It was tricky. Yes, normalize
in twenty twenty six that if you are over twenty one,
a person may forget your birthday, Okay, and it's not
the end of the world.

Speaker 2 (08:11):
Still loves the big birthdays after twenty one.

Speaker 1 (08:13):
I mean to me, to me, what I mean thirty five,
thirty and thirty five, thirty thirty five.

Speaker 5 (08:18):
And to me the fives a like in between. My
girl is a big fan of the fives. I'm like
to me, it's like once you turn twenty one, you
turn forty and then.

Speaker 2 (08:26):
Yeah, fact, like.

Speaker 3 (08:30):
I say, like, I'm with you every day, Like that's
there's nobody every day coming out.

Speaker 7 (08:34):
Not even that you're a lover boy tune with you
every day type right, I'm following up. It's like whatever,
my nigga, Like I'd be feeling cheap a little bit
when I see anybody about my birthday like Instagram, Like
I see them post day birthday on Instagram and I
hit them up our happy birthday.

Speaker 5 (08:47):
But it's like, nigga, I didn't remember. It is cheap though,
but I'll do the cheap but cheap happy birth and
it's about the count.

Speaker 6 (08:55):
Just say happy birthday, like the whole posting and doing
all that, that'd be a lot.

Speaker 1 (08:59):
Well, no, and then that's my problem. I said, my store,
I said, I said at the top of twenty twenty five,
I wasn't gonna do it, because what happens is I
post old pictures of us to show how long we've
been friends, and you know, bitch's face has changed, weight,
gets lost weight, gets scathed, and bitch just be like,
why the fuck would you post that picture of me?
Out of me? Like, br I don't care if y'all
post what I looked like back when I was two thirty.

Speaker 2 (09:21):
I'm trying.

Speaker 1 (09:24):
And was let me see a picture you for real,
you ain't see me in two thirty hold on and
Keith was like three hundred were sorry, I.

Speaker 2 (09:34):
Was, you were above three.

Speaker 1 (09:36):
So me and him both lost weight fairly around the
same time, and it was like, damn, we really became
like new people. But you know we did, we did,
we did, which is crazy because it wasn't this the
year where Lizza lost aw her weight and people claim
that she wasn't body positive. No more, right, I mean,
I will also say this is the year of the
face list. It made me feel like I never got it.

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I don't care about getting old.

Speaker 5 (09:59):
Because if I'm gonna get the body positive, body positive
means seen the movie. You're not fat as fun, You're
not body positive? Like, what type of ship is? Like,
I've seen a movie. Withem, what's Demi Moore?

Speaker 1 (10:10):
Uh?

Speaker 2 (10:11):
Subject? I just seen day more Titties.

Speaker 5 (10:13):
I was like, you just saw where we going where
I'm just saying I've never seen the tittes body positive.

Speaker 2 (10:22):
I'm being positive about them.

Speaker 3 (10:25):
But also I just thought any more titties.

Speaker 5 (10:27):
Is raizy is pretty fascinating.

Speaker 2 (10:32):
So yeah, you know what, what's your reaction? Quickly, she's
steadily trying to show that.

Speaker 3 (10:39):
Hold on, hold on, I'll show you front facing.

Speaker 2 (10:42):
Damn, Okay, makeup. I know, makeup was terrible.

Speaker 4 (10:50):
Listen listen.

Speaker 2 (10:54):
Seventeen different No, you know, it was tricky. It was tricky.
It was he was Shrigen.

Speaker 1 (11:00):
He was tricky. But anyways, let's get into entertainment in
twenty twenty five.

Speaker 3 (11:08):
Yeah, do we want to start flat out with hip hop?

Speaker 2 (11:12):
Yeah, let's let's do it.

Speaker 5 (11:14):
I don't think you don't know what I know.

Speaker 2 (11:20):
You ain't see what I.

Speaker 1 (11:26):
Guess. Let's go there. This was a year where I
think everyone was happy with him.

Speaker 2 (11:32):
For the most part.

Speaker 1 (11:33):
I will say I will start there's a double down
or take it back that we do on regular episodes.
I see they love these niggas. They gonna hate what
I have to say.

Speaker 2 (11:46):
What you have to say? Is it?

Speaker 1 (11:50):
No? No, no no. I'm not gonna get into that. I'm
not I'm not gonna get into clips yet, but I
think it's only right. In twenty twenty five, we saw
kind of the fizzle out of what transpired back in
twenty twenty four, which was Drake versus Kendrick. We saw
podcasts and because the bef ended, we saw niggas not
having nothing else to talk about because the ship was

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kind of dead. I will also do a double down
and take it back. I am completely in highly upset Drake.

Speaker 3 (12:19):
You proved me.

Speaker 2 (12:21):
Wrong, Lobbry.

Speaker 3 (12:25):
I was really upset.

Speaker 1 (12:26):
I was anticipating the huge kick to the face to
everybody that Drake would come back and run the summer.

Speaker 2 (12:35):
He did not. What did I miss? What did I miss?

Speaker 1 (12:37):
Drake decided to hide out in Australia all year and
take bits and trips to Europe. Nigga.

Speaker 3 (12:45):
I don't even think he went to Houston, Lanta, Vegas.

Speaker 1 (12:47):
That nigga said, I'm staying out of the States. Though
he did content very very disappointed in my biracial brother,
really expected more from him. However, I never heard say
that big.

Speaker 6 (13:04):
You gotta rest like I'm not. He dropped forty records.

Speaker 1 (13:11):
No, no, no, no no.

Speaker 2 (13:12):
At this point, it's scared.

Speaker 7 (13:14):
I here's the thing. You lose the battle, you lose
the lawsuit. You gotta relax.

Speaker 2 (13:21):
How big is the ego?

Speaker 7 (13:22):
I think, I think personally mm hmm, the nigga could
win if he just goes straight into acting.

Speaker 2 (13:28):
Just get back.

Speaker 1 (13:29):
Oh my god. That was the thing with the Canadians.

Speaker 2 (13:32):
Yeah, the movers and movers.

Speaker 3 (13:34):
Yeah, oh my god, that's great.

Speaker 6 (13:37):
Like stop wrapping, yes, well.

Speaker 5 (13:39):
No, no, I mean you mean completely or downtime.

Speaker 7 (13:44):
I think stop rapping, act, give yourself a cool year
or two and.

Speaker 5 (13:48):
Then come back to me and then come back. Yeah,
you know what's funny. Early, but he dropped a lot
of records. Nobody's no one cares because it was the
biggest hold on Joe.

Speaker 1 (14:01):
Joe.

Speaker 2 (14:03):
Yeah, whatever she.

Speaker 6 (14:05):
Want and everybody's gonna go Jo, you lose a battle.

Speaker 2 (14:09):
Yeah, you're you're on the radio.

Speaker 1 (14:12):
Based on the spins that Drake technically got this year, Like,
what was it? Nokia?

Speaker 5 (14:19):
He got no off, that's it Nokia out of all
them ships a little bit.

Speaker 2 (14:24):
He put the million gigs.

Speaker 1 (14:27):
Okay, but listen radio, here's his old music. I get it,
I get it, But I.

Speaker 7 (14:33):
Think that I think that the thing is that niggas
gotta understand that this was a cultural versus a commerce.

Speaker 1 (14:40):
Culture verse commerce.

Speaker 2 (14:41):
So Nokia is going to do well because you can
put that in a commercial.

Speaker 5 (14:45):
Yeah, so many skews, so many, But I think I
think there's a caveat to the battle, right, I don't
one with that.

Speaker 2 (14:54):
No, are you out of your mind? What do we? Yeah?

Speaker 1 (14:59):
You're back. By the way. According to Spotify, Strake was
the Drake was the most stream artist, But.

Speaker 5 (15:05):
I don't think that that qualified. I don't think kendrick
goal and mission was to compete with him streamwise. I
think that's not the word. To bring the cultural conversation
back into perspective. You are your cod's playing is all
of these things?

Speaker 7 (15:19):
You want to be a corporate darling bro. He's good
for the corporations. He's good for to make money. It's
good to get a bunch of niggas in the room
write a song and then he goes out and performs
it because have you ever been to it?

Speaker 2 (15:31):
Nothing? It bless you. Hey, you playing, But I'm talking culturally.
You can't.

Speaker 7 (15:35):
Yeah, you can't. You can't be you know what I'm saying.
But I'm cool with you. Hey, Look, it's the same
thing Mariah Carey do every year, this.

Speaker 2 (15:42):
Time another biracial birac today.

Speaker 5 (15:48):
As soon as the turkey going refrigerator, here comes Mariah.

Speaker 2 (15:52):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 5 (15:53):
And it's that's cool, like get your corporate money. But
it's like, so Drake needs to just be that, just
do your corporate.

Speaker 7 (15:57):
Thing, bro, Like nobody tripping on that because the thing
is is like the culture of cache is gone.

Speaker 3 (16:02):
So I think what's interesting in me?

Speaker 2 (16:04):
And I play that game?

Speaker 7 (16:05):
Nigga just played a corporate game, and and and act
I'll say, time.

Speaker 2 (16:09):
To see Drake on the silver screens.

Speaker 1 (16:11):
Cultural cache for him to have the year he had
in twenty twenty four. Kendrick been real quiet and super.

Speaker 4 (16:17):
Bowl and.

Speaker 1 (16:20):
I get that he's also wait, wait, wait, you still
have certain records?

Speaker 2 (16:27):
Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on said.

Speaker 6 (16:29):
What she said has made perfect sense because okay.

Speaker 5 (16:34):
Right, when has Kendrick ever been the overhead like he's
not chasing before before before mister.

Speaker 7 (16:42):
Morale, it had been five years dropping. Okay, so he
gave you niggas drops after drops at the d.

Speaker 5 (16:48):
In fact that he droke he and that so quickly
after the battle, is that that's already the gifts.

Speaker 2 (16:53):
And didn't have none of the battle records on it chilled.

Speaker 5 (16:55):
Out, didn't he Luther was going change has The only
reason lutheror is out the billboard top forty is because
they changed the rules about how.

Speaker 2 (17:04):
Long the song can stand there.

Speaker 6 (17:05):
So if we're saying who won the battle, we know
who won the battle Hendred. Yeah, sure, I think culturally.

Speaker 5 (17:11):
I think across any spec across stream that you use
Kendrick one. Yes, family matters is not not like us.
Family matters probably isn't even doing. And we're gonna see
a weapon because he's nominated for Helo Grammy.

Speaker 6 (17:28):
Okay, So you say, one one, what what did they win?

Speaker 2 (17:34):
Is the cultural? The culture win?

Speaker 5 (17:37):
What?

Speaker 2 (17:38):
When? What the battle? I'm gonna tell you what it.

Speaker 6 (17:41):
Was how I want to jump, I want to know
the cultural.

Speaker 2 (17:43):
Will what what?

Speaker 5 (17:44):
What Drake attacked Kendrick for right, you know what his
biggest When Drake says you rap like you're trying to
free the slaves, that's when you started crazy into the conversation.
You you integrated. I'm not from America. And he also
stepped on us. That's why he puts out a record
not like us.

Speaker 7 (18:02):
That's why he's also like lost. The culture of Cache
is because you cosplay a lot of Black American culture
while like in turn shipping on Black America easy because nigga,
what you bringing up slavery?

Speaker 6 (18:13):
Well, when when did he ever become When did he
officially become a part of the culture He's been, He's been.

Speaker 2 (18:18):
A part of.

Speaker 1 (18:21):
Young niggas have danced and I wouldn't say de Grassi,
but young Money.

Speaker 5 (18:26):
Yeah, young niggas love so far gone. They he came
into the game. Niggas didn't fight him off in a
different time. Drake couldn't even be Drake right now.

Speaker 2 (18:35):
Niggas.

Speaker 7 (18:36):
It took niggas a while to eat, like to buy
into the Drake things. Niggas wayne a while to buy
into the Drake thing. But what did Wayne tell him?
Earl was great for he said big about this how
corporate Drake is first song that he got that's like
really popping is the.

Speaker 2 (18:53):
Forever? Right?

Speaker 7 (18:54):
Where did where did that song? Land Sprike commercial with
Lebron that niggas of corporation? There's nothing wrong with that.
But we accept him in to the culture because he
had a cultural giant standing next to time law Wayne, But.

Speaker 5 (19:07):
Don't try to come over here and act like you
actually are the same thing as Kendrick Lamar's.

Speaker 1 (19:13):
I will say the culture, Let's be very clear for
what he's done for the culture. However, the way he's
stood on top of hip.

Speaker 5 (19:21):
Hop globally for the culture, good songs for himself, that
made me.

Speaker 3 (19:28):
But look for what he's.

Speaker 1 (19:29):
Done and where people have placed him in terms of
culturally over the last decade decade plus. I'll be honest
with saying I'm surprised that he wasn't able to come
back and do another guy's playing like.

Speaker 5 (19:41):
But it's that superpowers getting neutralized.

Speaker 7 (19:45):
You make you make great music. You know what I'm saying.
We fuck with the music, the girls fuck with the music.
It's good in the club and every now and then
I put on one of the albums, like I'm gonna
catch a bop on there. That's not on the radio
for sure, But for the MO part is playlist music.
It's songs that do really well on radio in corporate right,
and we already know you got to slow writers and

(20:06):
all this, but that's pop ship.

Speaker 2 (20:07):
We ain't tripping on that. The thing is is like.

Speaker 7 (20:09):
Once you start trying to come at niggas like that's like,
that's like I'll let you come over here because you
my homeboy cousin and when you're from the burbs and whatever.
But now you're trying to pop ship that niggas in
the hood. We're not doing that.

Speaker 5 (20:21):
That's not gonna happen. Also, remember I want to I
want to just add this too. It's like this was
a long This is one of the greatest building even
though we're talking about a decade a decade, right, But
I do want to go back to his inspiration, right,
Brake's and inspiration, which is notable is.

Speaker 2 (20:39):
The fact that he doesn't go back.

Speaker 5 (20:40):
And I'm not saying he owes him a record, but
it's like, damn, you just alienate you. That was your
credibility factor for hip hop and then you just what
you got to the cultural thing is this, like you
can't do the lawsuit, bro that we don't do police.

Speaker 1 (20:56):
Okay, however, let me ask you, but let's but let's
talk about what the lawsuit meant because so so so
Drake went to sue m G. Yes, there's been multiple
losses by the way to cause, yeah, he's sued quite
a few people in tandem. But I do I do
want to ask you in terms of culture right to me,

(21:18):
to me, it was interesting seeing what happened to Diddy
when he decided to go against the Yagio Right. However,
we support black creators going against the machine that essentially
doesn't pay them. So yeah, I know, I wanna. I
want to I want to segue into this because, like
because I'm curious what it looks like when we are

(21:39):
in support of knowing that these corporations we talked about
in episode one, how the gold post gets pushed right,
and we know how streaming has unfortunately impacted the music
industry in a way that makes black creators and hip hop,
the leaders of all ship not get paid their value.
It's why we've seen me figure out like, oh, nigga,
I made how much? Oh no, so it was you

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seem to me to see, yes, it's stemmed from a beef. However,
it was interesting to see the community not step forward
in supporting a still black man because we're not gonna
do that, y'all. Let Ja Cole and all the other
by races Bela don't about it. But but I want
to know that the the I guess issue with the

(22:23):
fact that Drake as a black man, because that's what
he looks like in every room he walks into, is
able to go against these corporations because joy.

Speaker 2 (22:30):
You because this is like snitching, right, Oh you're.

Speaker 5 (22:34):
No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no no no.

Speaker 2 (22:37):
Streets. I'm not talking about the streets. I'm not the streets.

Speaker 5 (22:40):
You know it's snitching because the definition of snitching isn't
if you're a neighbor and you witness a crime, your
other neighbor get shot outside, you call the police.

Speaker 2 (22:50):
That's not snitching. Snitching is when you're.

Speaker 5 (22:52):
Involved with the crime and then you turn tail, you
turn stace evidence, you turn Drake breaking Michael Jackson and
records and the Beatles and all this wild ship.

Speaker 2 (23:02):
It's all ful Gate. It's all bullshit.

Speaker 5 (23:04):
It's all streaming bullshit, and Drake's numbers are inflated the
same way he's suing.

Speaker 2 (23:09):
A nigga saying this is fake and inflated.

Speaker 6 (23:12):
You know that?

Speaker 2 (23:13):
What do you mean how I know that all streaming
is bullshit?

Speaker 1 (23:15):
We know that what were like all the streaming numbers.

Speaker 2 (23:19):
I just want to know how I could do dram
from all the streaming is bullshit.

Speaker 1 (23:24):
But it.

Speaker 2 (23:26):
Doesn't matter.

Speaker 7 (23:28):
Drake's the biggest artists in the world at one point, right, Yes,
UMG is his record label. Right, he's accusing you of
G of inflating Kendricks is Kendricks numbers as well as Okay,
so you don't think the same company you sing they
weren't doing that.

Speaker 2 (23:43):
But let's get around.

Speaker 5 (23:46):
It can't mean it can't be good for you. And
then when you lose because you think Darling and the
company is gonna overwhelming support you, now you feel like
because you lost, Oh, they must have had something to
do with this is another thing of him not well, no,
he did not.

Speaker 1 (24:05):
I guess that. That's what's interesting.

Speaker 5 (24:06):
Because for the same thing that he benefited, he that's
is mad I sell dope and we get caught and
I turned and be like that nigga was selling drugs
like you, was selling drums like you.

Speaker 2 (24:21):
But that also wasn't proven, y'all. That wasn't proving.

Speaker 5 (24:25):
It was you know who chatting about that uh obo Twitter.
That's not But I'm being fair in my assessment. Everybody's
streaming numbers is bullshit. I'm not just saying that company
is doing that. Somebody is doing that's another is not
saying numbers. Yeah, I don't care about your streaming numbers
because it's all bullshit. I care about I know when

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I go outside what people are listening to.

Speaker 2 (24:49):
I know what people are reacting to. That's all that matters.

Speaker 7 (24:51):
I think if you want to bro at that time,
you dropped that out like us, it was everybody from
the fucking two year old to seventy two year olds.

Speaker 2 (25:01):
It was a rap for you work.

Speaker 1 (25:02):
However, I'm sorry, right it was gonna go ahead and
admitt bitch. I would put on, Hey Alexa, play snow
a Legra radio. Why am I listening to snow a
Leger and then not like us right now, of course,
not the same like not like us was showing up.

Speaker 2 (25:16):
Yes, let's be very That means you must have Google
some ship none.

Speaker 1 (25:21):
Snow leg Radio is my sex playlist. I don't want
to fuck to not like that showing up in my
snow legger playlist.

Speaker 6 (25:28):
Of course, that happens everything.

Speaker 2 (25:29):
It's the biggest song in the nation.

Speaker 1 (25:31):
Of course in shoulders, I don't want to fuck it,
not like us I don't either.

Speaker 2 (25:35):
Okay, but where she hit boom boom, I.

Speaker 1 (25:45):
Will say it's interesting because in terms of I turn
that off well, in terms of in terms of streaming,
it was interesting because what we saw outside of UMG
is and right now at the end of twenty twenty five,
we have all of TikTok and everybody or all of
the record labels coming to TikTok now wanting them to

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up subscription rates, up all this ship to keep getting
money from from people. I think what we're seeing.

Speaker 2 (26:14):
With the hold On?

Speaker 3 (26:15):
You ready you know who? I didn't know how to God?

Speaker 1 (26:17):
Did I remember Night two thousand, what eight seven getting
motherfucking Netflix DVDs?

Speaker 3 (26:28):
The red Box hold On?

Speaker 1 (26:30):
They just purchased Warner Brothers and HBO for seventy five billion, Like.

Speaker 2 (26:41):
No, no, no to me.

Speaker 1 (26:42):
It's interesting because as soon as this well, no, no, no,
it's already a.

Speaker 2 (26:48):
Quiet right, like, no, it's already acquired.

Speaker 1 (26:49):
But Trump stills, well, the sc is now getting involved,
because let's be clear. And as soon as I saw this,
I immediately thought of a couple of things, right. I immediately
thought of when the NBA axd the Blockbuster trade. I
think it was for Chris Paul because of because it
would be bad for the league to have this mean

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superstars on the team, but also if you go super
super back. There was a thing around not only telecommunications,
uh or that we're now dealing with television and entertainment,
but telecommunications. There was a time where they stopped the
the SEC came in and stopped from was it AT
and T.

Speaker 2 (27:27):
Or there was a.

Speaker 1 (27:30):
There was a cell phone company. They were trying to
merge everything together, and they were like, we cannot have monopolies.

Speaker 2 (27:37):
Come into place.

Speaker 1 (27:38):
There's certain laws that stop people from having a monopoly.

Speaker 3 (27:41):
So at one point, I mean, it happens in the
food and.

Speaker 1 (27:44):
Industry, right, which is why if y'all watch any of
the documentaries around you have Tyson, you have this, you
have only four four things that do chicken. They can't
acquire or buy each other out because you can't have
a monopoly. The same thing in telecommunications and what's happening
right now. Hollywood is scared at what's happening because of
especially content creators. We're in a space where if Netflix

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owns everything Netflix, besides who gets bought, who gets greenlit,
how much money they can start paying people, and now
that dictates the entire industry on what people what the
going rate is for.

Speaker 5 (28:16):
Ship People don't realize this shit because it's not in
the headline, but like as as somebody like I was
just on ceing it on two weeks ago, and like
people they are like like, we're gonna get all sorted out.
But like Netflix buying Paramount or buying Warner means that.

Speaker 2 (28:31):
They own CNN.

Speaker 1 (28:33):
You ready, Disney Disney buying and Hulu.

Speaker 2 (28:39):
It's like Disney bought that. Shits talking about a different
level of big business.

Speaker 3 (28:43):
Like we're in a place this year.

Speaker 1 (28:45):
People now watch sports differently, nigga, fuck just turning on
your goddamn you're.

Speaker 2 (28:51):
Not even like, yeah, it's not even convenient watch sports
at this point.

Speaker 1 (28:56):
Now know you have to go you have to go.

Speaker 5 (29:00):
Amazon, Mina, you know, you know how I find out
when when the Knicks is playing and some ship or
where they playing niggas not. I got to go to
my bleacher Report and they said, ohere these niggas, what
what platform the where to watch?

Speaker 1 (29:10):
No, I want this is gonna sound, this is gonna
sound real Atlanta. I went to Boogloo, and I love Boogloo,
especially on the money find out the Crab Club.

Speaker 2 (29:21):
The Crustacean Queen of the South.

Speaker 5 (29:24):
I love hear the group chat dropped like six different places,
like here's all of the seafood, here all the crab,
like forty.

Speaker 1 (29:32):
Five dollars all you could eat, bro. But also baby
no no, I couldn't believe he ate sushi. I sawd
on his story. I said, you're full of surprises. I said,
you are full of surprises.

Speaker 2 (29:47):
I'm like, no, I want someshi listen.

Speaker 1 (29:52):
But went to Boogloo and the I think we were
trying to look at I want to say the Bulls
were playing somebody, or they're playing the Hawks, but the
Hawks weren't home, so like, so it's based on where
the team is playing, and the home network plays the
home games. But if it's not, you have to be
subscribed to all this other stuff and it was interesting
because it was like, damn these niggas. You gotta be

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subscribed to like three different streaming platforms to even be
able to see games.

Speaker 2 (30:18):
Jojo, how is that for you? Working with broken player?

Speaker 5 (30:20):
Like having to keep up with all the sports? How
many apps do you have on you?

Speaker 8 (30:25):
So?

Speaker 2 (30:25):
I watch?

Speaker 6 (30:26):
I watch football, like football for show, like every day?

Speaker 1 (30:29):
What about basketball?

Speaker 6 (30:30):
I don't really fuck with basketball because I feel like
that's too like political.

Speaker 1 (30:34):
Really, I think, okay, wait wait wait wait no, we
got to get into that.

Speaker 6 (30:37):
Then ye let me finish though. Yeah, So like I
watch I'll watch REDZ on on my phone and I
had like the main game I want to watch on
my TV and sometimes I'll even have my iPad app bro,
I'll watch all of them.

Speaker 7 (30:51):
Yeah, are you understand real analysts? I think ye're watching
it in real time too.

Speaker 6 (30:57):
I don't talk like an analyst. I talk like why
the fu you drop this?

Speaker 2 (31:00):
Nah, That's what I'm saying.

Speaker 7 (31:01):
But that is but that is like the new age
of being an analyst to it's to like decentralized.

Speaker 2 (31:06):
Decentralized.

Speaker 7 (31:07):
I'm not corporate, so I can say like the nigga
thinking and it's like niggas like exactly, bro like because
we don't like the whole I hate barbershop talk aspect
of it. But it's now it's like I don't have
to speak. I can speak candidly co loquial commentary. Yeah yeah, yeah,
I could just be like, Yo, this nigga, he fucking

(31:27):
nigga paying him too much money to drop balls like that.
Like now I did say this. I have been keeping
up with your there so like, oh yeah, Judy, niggas
doing him dirty.

Speaker 6 (31:36):
I ain't lie brother with some of the guys.

Speaker 7 (31:39):
Ready to go tying your heart and on that Jeff,
you know what I mean, like real quick Man put
him out for the season.

Speaker 2 (31:47):
Well I do.

Speaker 1 (31:48):
I want to get back to hip hop, but let's
stay in sports for a little bit, because to me,
this year has been the most interesting in terms of
just feeding all the gambling addicts. And then I think,
to me, it's been interesting to see people that I
grew up watching like a seeing everybody else nigga the
X ray table was crazy.

Speaker 3 (32:06):
But for me to see that, I love what we
Oh wait.

Speaker 5 (32:11):
But nobody was like, Okay, what's the consequence of this possible?

Speaker 2 (32:15):
I mean, what we're.

Speaker 1 (32:16):
Dealing with I think it's all so crazy too, because
we see the n I L coming in and we
got the college players getting paid.

Speaker 3 (32:23):
Now we also see a lot of name.

Speaker 2 (32:24):
From the Charlotte Hornets, Terry Rozero.

Speaker 5 (32:29):
Watch him, yeah, watch him. That ain't even being asleep.

Speaker 2 (32:34):
You enjoying one.

Speaker 8 (32:36):
But it's.

Speaker 9 (32:37):
Good.

Speaker 2 (32:38):
That's why Jordan to go.

Speaker 7 (32:40):
Not only was he simultaneous the best nigga and on
the court, he was also the best at fixing the game.
That's like that niggas, he's he's what was the conversations
so that nigga said, funk that I'm going sixty two
points on niggas because they got me on fifty five
over and I got to hit that or or yeah,
I bet the tonight right right right, and he and

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he made the storyline five stayed up last night doing
coked dropped thirty eight?

Speaker 5 (33:08):
How many I'm too good at basketball? You know what
I'm saying, games like that to hold on, hold on, no, no, no,
went the whole life, No wait, not all that.

Speaker 2 (33:19):
My daddy died. I gotta go play basketball. Niggatalians had
you on the hooks. Hold on, we stopped playing.

Speaker 1 (33:26):
You know who had more power than him. Billips the
nigga making the lineups, he was in control of me.
He was like, oh, this niggas supposed to make this
many points. I'm gonna sit him the whole fourth quarter.
That niggas gonna like Billops was in there.

Speaker 2 (33:42):
It's like.

Speaker 7 (33:44):
About today's game. It's like it is like everything, just
like everything in America. It's overly surveillance. You wasn't watching
every Bulls game. You watching set the play up?

Speaker 5 (33:55):
Like, of course, was what was the nig your point
of contact to even get that those four or five
guys together in the room and say this is what
we're gonna do.

Speaker 2 (34:04):
What we're doing. But my question with this ship is
always what did y'all say? Like, all y'all are millionaires.

Speaker 1 (34:10):
It doesn't matter.

Speaker 2 (34:11):
I can always be rich, Yeah rich.

Speaker 6 (34:16):
I just think like sometimes it's the thrill of it.
I just think niggas just gonna always be who they are.

Speaker 2 (34:21):
That's the same.

Speaker 1 (34:22):
That's like whatever you don't give a nigga, money's gonna.

Speaker 2 (34:28):
Money, man.

Speaker 1 (34:30):
You here Rappers.

Speaker 7 (34:34):
The Pistons won the three championship, will still be they
won the other championship.

Speaker 2 (34:38):
For a reason.

Speaker 1 (34:39):
That's that's the business.

Speaker 2 (34:41):
Was boy not gonna play with niggas, not gonna play
with these niggas. But historically the mob in mafia with
niggas never it's.

Speaker 5 (34:54):
When when when when she hit the fans, it's always
the niggas.

Speaker 1 (34:59):
Very we're here.

Speaker 5 (35:01):
We won't know whoever we want, We won't know who
we are not going to know in the nineties, getting.

Speaker 1 (35:07):
We are at the end of the year and we
have heard every NBA player, possible, n C double, a nigga,
everybody like there's teams not being picked up. Right, We've
heard every name possibly associated, but not one my name, not.

Speaker 6 (35:21):
One approach from uh uh.

Speaker 1 (35:26):
Supposed from Miami.

Speaker 10 (35:30):
Yeah, yeah, he loved he'd be in the back of
Prime one twelve with some real going real's.

Speaker 6 (35:41):
It's like a known or his family members are known, like.

Speaker 1 (35:44):
Well, yeah, you're ready, that's why. Also his house probably
allegedly just caught on fire. Who knows.

Speaker 2 (35:48):
There was a lot going on.

Speaker 1 (35:49):
Maybe it was hot as ship. I don't know.

Speaker 2 (35:51):
Hold today things like I got to say you was
who you was?

Speaker 1 (35:59):
And Lebron and you know, yeah, well.

Speaker 5 (36:04):
Has conspiracy.

Speaker 7 (36:10):
He got a charity a bit we can every year
kicker rel They'll never implicate Lebron.

Speaker 2 (36:15):
No that the league.

Speaker 7 (36:17):
He could be over with the league because like this
is the thing, Bro, we need Lebron to be perfect. Yeah,
you can't be perfect this long and then like far
from grace now post career.

Speaker 2 (36:29):
That's what it gets, Dice.

Speaker 7 (36:30):
That's where is a little But that's because because it
doesn't have any effect on the NBA.

Speaker 6 (36:37):
The NBA, but he got his own ship that he like.

Speaker 2 (36:40):
True, but Lebron funny.

Speaker 5 (36:42):
He'd be like he'd be on the podcast like yeah,
I'm actually a real nigga.

Speaker 2 (36:48):
Lebron calmed down, like yeah, this bitch, Like, I.

Speaker 1 (36:52):
Mean, he's probably able to.

Speaker 2 (36:56):
Call the Now.

Speaker 5 (36:58):
Here's the funny thing about him with that, right, It's like,
you know, he be in the back of his Little
may Back or whatever, rapping the songs acapella or whatever,
rapping over and it's like the words that he chooses
to omit or say, like it's never a niggas, it's
never niggas.

Speaker 2 (37:11):
No funny, but it might be bitch, but it's not
nig he is.

Speaker 7 (37:15):
He's like he's one of the funniest like niggas. Like
unintentionally he's not trying to be no, but like the
niggas just he kind of like because it's like, bro,
you're still clinging to this like just a kid for
Mac Nigga a.

Speaker 1 (37:29):
Million, you're a billion he's a billionaire.

Speaker 2 (37:31):
Yeah, he's a billionaire.

Speaker 5 (37:32):
Stop stop when we see you and Rich Paul on
them on Rap City.

Speaker 2 (37:37):
Yeah, nigga. Sure it was rough. It was put up
Sean John, button down, stop it John John.

Speaker 5 (37:47):
But he went Sean John and Nigga was still Ohio
and everything. Chris Paul ain't had no good team. It
was it was you know what I'm saying. It was
child You think Lebron with the little brim, Yes, you
think you got to look at what acting was going on.

Speaker 3 (38:04):
By the way.

Speaker 1 (38:06):
By the way, because I am about Jojo gotta leave
us a little bit for this episode, and I'm watching
the clock. But I didn't want to leave hip hop
without we'll talk on and being all those things.

Speaker 3 (38:22):
And I didn't want to.

Speaker 1 (38:23):
Leave hip hop without getting JoJo's take because again radio
period out here I did want to talk about because
if you guys listen, if you if y'all are new here,
I have an episode with way Now and we were
talking about the state of hip hop and at the time,
we were talking about if there was actually a Song
of the Summer, and so I did want to amongst
all of us discussed with such a great year in

(38:45):
hip hop, a if there was a song of the
Year in hip hop And then of course there's been
a lot of controversy and conversations around Grammys and who
should win hip Hop Album of the Year. So I
kind of just wanted to see if we could have
that conversation for jo Jo steps out of here. Yeah,
but Jojo specifically, I want to know your thoughts in
tune in turn of radio spins, what people have been playing.

(39:09):
I'm sure you've done a lot of fucking festivals, concerts
this year, all the things. What do you think has
been song of let's let's go with the year twenty
twenty five and is there one?

Speaker 8 (39:24):
Me?

Speaker 6 (39:25):
I don't think there's one, but okay, but like the
song that's been played the most, yes, fucking not like
us still this year?

Speaker 1 (39:34):
Yeah, this year? So wayno said when wommy. I do
think that that's geographical. I think that maybe here, but
definitely not New York or West Coast.

Speaker 6 (39:42):
I mean, not like us playing more than why.

Speaker 2 (39:46):
Okay, any plays everywhere?

Speaker 1 (39:48):
And what about album? Do you have any takes on
album of the Year?

Speaker 6 (39:51):
I really like there's two albums that I like. I
don't know, album with a year probably okay, all I.

Speaker 2 (39:56):
Might have were talking overall? Are we talking? My hip hop? Overall?

Speaker 1 (39:59):
A lot people came out with. So, so I mean
we have we have Freddy Gibbs, who's been discussed, hepp ho,
we got clips of course, j I d J I
nominated for and I don't know if I have Oh,
here we go. So albums of the year that have

(40:20):
been discussed, Oh, well, I know we put in Larry June, Walle,
Freddy Gibson, Alchemists, NB A Young Boy, Drop, Chance the Rapper, drop.

Speaker 5 (40:28):
What Well, hold On, hold On. So what we did
was when we hold on? So what we did we
compiled indie and both mainstream just records that.

Speaker 2 (40:38):
We're putting that. Why are we putting that? Larry Jones.

Speaker 5 (40:43):
With Larry jun Alchemists album, Oh My Ship You the
first Wow.

Speaker 1 (40:47):
I don't like Larry Judis and it's.

Speaker 7 (40:49):
Like the third couple of good songs to Chance Carry,
Alchemists production, good hot Take and where the funk.

Speaker 2 (40:56):
Is Alfredo two? In this conversation. Who else, well, Freddy Gibbs, Yeah,
we mentioned you know, I said pretty good.

Speaker 5 (41:02):
I said pretty good to make sure afraid because we
leave afraid I'm walking.

Speaker 1 (41:09):
No, no, no, it's even chance.

Speaker 2 (41:14):
Like how to chant is hard. I'm glad.

Speaker 1 (41:18):
And I got to see j People live when he
went on tour for this latest album.

Speaker 5 (41:23):
Like he's he's be comeback player of the year.

Speaker 2 (41:27):
If we doing that, I think, come back though, yeah,
come back. I don't know Jo.

Speaker 6 (41:39):
Up because I am a radio personality and it's like.

Speaker 1 (41:41):
Oh, you should listen to you don't get radio play.

Speaker 6 (41:43):
Like I don't really like, I don't I like listening
to what I listen to. R right, Yes, I don't
want to listen to I want to what I want.
And the two albums for me that stuck out for
me this year, No, it's actually three. I like, I
like Somebody Loved Me? What name that? Drinking Party?

Speaker 2 (42:01):
Drinking Party?

Speaker 6 (42:02):
Okay, Drinking Party are two of my best My favorite
Party is actually my favorite artists like ever Okay and
Drink is number two. So they came on the album.

Speaker 2 (42:13):
Beautiful Gowns, So that one is not my number one.

Speaker 6 (42:17):
My number one. I ain't gonna lie is fucking Kyrir
or whatever.

Speaker 1 (42:25):
Look at the face. If y'all are not watching this, Nat,
I think so sexy songs for you. Okay, look he's like, okay, Jojo,
we heard from you. I know you have to go.

Speaker 6 (42:39):
That's just my vibe.

Speaker 1 (42:40):
I mean, I'm not matter. I mean, I will say,
I will say, not not a fan of what Officet
has been doing in the blogs, but love his record.
We're gonna like, I love his record with with Kids.

Speaker 6 (42:56):
That's on.

Speaker 2 (42:59):
Jimmy.

Speaker 3 (43:00):
No, that's that's That's what.

Speaker 2 (43:06):
I'm just saying.

Speaker 6 (43:08):
So just no, you said it was fine, and.

Speaker 2 (43:10):
No, I said good album. That's fine. That's what I said.
Because Gunner, I ain't even mentioned that body.

Speaker 6 (43:14):
Hit album that was my number five most listened to albums.

Speaker 2 (43:18):
Okay, where was the said album?

Speaker 7 (43:21):
You must listen to album crazy if I want.

Speaker 6 (43:24):
To put my ship up. Actually, and I gotta.

Speaker 1 (43:26):
Go, Cardi beating not on there at all. Can cry.
And I'm mad that you're not going to be here
because I did want to talk about to me the
fall off of women in rap this year. I think
it's I'm so mad that you're not here to talk
about it because i'ming to look like a hater, the
only woman in a room full of dicks. Yeah, I

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feel like it's like, hold on, who else is there?

Speaker 6 (43:51):
No, I don't.

Speaker 1 (43:52):
You don't want to share that with what the fall off?
The fall off of women and wrap this year to me?
To me, I think it's it was interesting for I
think twenty one to twenty twenty four you had Meg Gloilla,
Sexy Red, just a lot of women a lotto. You
had a lot of women leading hip hop, and I
think all of the women I just named did not
have a hit record.

Speaker 3 (44:11):
This year you had Cardi drop her album which was
really dope.

Speaker 2 (44:13):
And I anticipated, no it carried over from twenty four.

Speaker 1 (44:18):
It wasn't a new record, nothing new that she.

Speaker 2 (44:20):
Just put off.

Speaker 7 (44:21):
The funniest ship is like niggas calling that Loto was
a lotto in Summer Walker song. Niggas call that ship
checking outfraid on music.

Speaker 6 (44:33):
Oh my goodness, I ain't no, but I will say
this and then it was spot. This year is just
it's always different, but this year for me, female who
held it down? This year she had the most Yeah
oh yeah, okay, oh yeah, she definitely had a hit.

Speaker 1 (44:49):
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lot of cap he has been listening to.

Speaker 5 (45:14):
He has a big Cap.

Speaker 1 (45:20):
Over there.

Speaker 2 (45:23):
The listen.

Speaker 1 (45:26):
Well, we are not, I'm not.

Speaker 2 (45:30):
Don't bring this up. Don't bring this up again.

Speaker 1 (45:34):
So where we left off with Jojo before we get
into what I believe to be a fall off this year,
which was women in hip hop. I did want to
lean with all of us talking about what we believe
at least, if not the song of the year to
be the album of the year, to be in hip hop.
We did listen a couple but I didn't get answers
from everybody. So a king, you want to lean like,

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especially since the Grammy not have been dropped and we
know who's up for for gramming.

Speaker 2 (46:03):
Our Nation Problem Recording Academy.

Speaker 5 (46:06):
Which you're a part of, go ahead and tell them, Yeah, look,
I feel like my metrics for that is probably a
little different from everybody.

Speaker 1 (46:13):
So are you going to tell us who you're looking at?

Speaker 2 (46:15):
You gotta be political? Are you allow that you know
that fourteen? I would say Luther?

Speaker 1 (46:27):
Okay, yeah, Luther as a song.

Speaker 5 (46:29):
Of the year in terms of look, there wasn't a glaring,
like you know record that that blaired and everybody speakers
like that. I think it was a nice balance all
across the board. But we're talking about what I see
on commercials and what I see the impact of a
record that transcends outside of music.

Speaker 2 (46:45):
I think, uh, Luther was there.

Speaker 1 (46:47):
What about your John.

Speaker 2 (46:50):
Song of the year?

Speaker 1 (46:51):
Song of the year?

Speaker 2 (46:52):
Song of the year for me is probably are you
leaning into hip?

Speaker 1 (46:56):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (46:56):
Ye percent?

Speaker 5 (46:58):
Do?

Speaker 2 (47:00):
My song of the year is probably Community and Clips.

Speaker 1 (47:03):
Okay.

Speaker 5 (47:05):
I think it's just from like, uh, like I think
about song you're telling me we're talking about hip hop,
we're talking about rap music. I think about, like, what
is a rap song supposed to be? And a rap
song is supposed to be on a on a quick level,
it's heartbeats, hard rhymes. Y'alls are supposed to be talking
about something. You're supposed to be showing some talent. You're
supposed to be painting a picture that people can see

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and get into and understand whatever.

Speaker 2 (47:28):
It is that your messages for that song.

Speaker 5 (47:30):
And I think Community is probably one of the most
quintessential rap songs that came out this year.

Speaker 1 (47:37):
Okay, I got you got two songs of the year
talk to Me Chans and Clips okay. Oh and Big
Cap looks like he agreed no more Old Man Chance
to Round Fire Okay, Okay, I have.

Speaker 4 (47:53):
No arguments with those two.

Speaker 2 (47:55):
That's a good record.

Speaker 1 (47:55):
And so how y'all are determining song of the Year
is not by radio spins and it's all personal spins.

Speaker 2 (48:03):
Yeah, what niggas saying niggas don't even love hip hop?

Speaker 5 (48:07):
Okay, and all that ship could be manipulated. That's the
other part of right, you don't think.

Speaker 1 (48:11):
Niggas love hip hop for real?

Speaker 2 (48:12):
If you're saying because Drake not relevant that hip hop.

Speaker 5 (48:15):
Is is boring, I don't hear that album have been great,
great out, great arrative.

Speaker 2 (48:22):
It is a diarrative. That's a narrative. J I.

Speaker 5 (48:24):
Great album, great album by Gibbs, great album, Chance the Rapper,
great album, Clips, phenomenal shout out the Bodie Jane Ransom,
these type of nia dirtyigas, Cray, It's crazy. The premium
album is crazy crazy, this type of ship is funk.
That billboarders niggas all hung up on that Billboards electronica

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is yeah.

Speaker 2 (48:48):
And a whole bunch of ship. We're trying to unpack
from that.

Speaker 5 (48:50):
From that, I gotta pick up a book when that niggas, Like,
hip hop is in this place where like I don't
know if any of y'all seeing Predator bad Lands, but
her bad Lands was kind of like where the longest
short of it is that there's a young predator who
kind of has to prove himself, who has to go
out in the world and like, let me see what
you've got. And I feel like that's where rap music

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is at.

Speaker 1 (49:11):
Like it's interesting being in a room though men and
y'all say all this, Tyler, Tyler, I mean, I think
it's interesting though being in a room full of men
talking about hip hop and this being one of the
best years in a long time for hip hop will
also not leading into the misogyny of it all, but
it appearing to be a downslide of hip hop when

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women were running the streets right, and so to me
to have Cardi B and Dojah, which Dose's album did
not do what I thought it was gonna.

Speaker 3 (49:39):
Do B was not what it was supposed to be.

Speaker 1 (49:41):
I think it's interesting to see Carti dropping her sophomore
album and no one else in terms of ladies of
hip hop really running radio spins. Was interesting.

Speaker 7 (49:51):
But I think that that's a good balance you do, okay,
because women.

Speaker 2 (49:56):
I've read it for the last two three years. Yeah,
it's been.

Speaker 7 (49:59):
It's been a great run this year post Beef, it's
been kind of went back kind of underground.

Speaker 2 (50:05):
So real hip hop music.

Speaker 7 (50:08):
That didn't get may not translate to what it's popular
and female hip.

Speaker 2 (50:13):
Shout out to Shane Noir, you see what I'm saying,
Rap City rhaps.

Speaker 7 (50:20):
Since those like they're not going to be They're not
going to be talked about, like Shane Noir is like out.

Speaker 2 (50:28):
Of this world like lyricist.

Speaker 7 (50:31):
But I think the thing is is like you're gonna
you're gonna get those ebbs and flows, especially when it
comes to like mainstream, because then you're gonna start having
a conversation about, well, what is the substance that we
accept from female hip hop, What are the what.

Speaker 2 (50:45):
Are the things that you know?

Speaker 7 (50:47):
It's like like we call it pussy rapping ship like that,
but it's like.

Speaker 2 (50:50):
It's gonna happen. Just got niggas now it's gonna be
and flow. We can't talk.

Speaker 11 (50:56):
About selling pussy while we posted right now, and I
don't know a lot of niggas up. You know, a
good break up, good break the streets.

Speaker 2 (51:08):
Everybody listen.

Speaker 1 (51:11):
So yeah, I didn't want to say in terms of
in terms of songs of the year, I know we
lean towards hip hop. I didn't have one personally.

Speaker 2 (51:21):
And this again, we go songs a year. If we go,
if we go songs of the year, it's R and B.
If it's R and B, I'm just gonna be crazy
nowhere I would a laundry matter the other day.

Speaker 5 (51:38):
Ships everywhere, fact, everywhere I want to hear that song.
It's very I think I think to where, like even
in the spot where it's jumping, they're still going like
you gotta find a way to ninety second.

Speaker 1 (51:53):
I will say it's interesting though, coming off of a
year where ironically did he didn't.

Speaker 2 (51:59):
Want that to be known. I took to the hood,
I had I saw.

Speaker 1 (52:09):
Drinking everybody in the spot because you go to to
play space.

Speaker 2 (52:17):
That's where we leave that.

Speaker 1 (52:20):
Leap out ron.

Speaker 2 (52:21):
Please, just after I said the hood.

Speaker 5 (52:25):
Telling what activity that, I want to know, I'm talking
to y'all are but.

Speaker 3 (52:35):
Like the one the same things I will next time
you pull up.

Speaker 2 (52:41):
I got.

Speaker 3 (52:43):
But I didn't want to say.

Speaker 1 (52:45):
It was interesting coming from him dropping the love album
at the top of the year and then being indicted
and all the things and going through trial. I think
it was interesting that the last couple of years we've
actually talked about R and B being dead and to me,
R and B rand this year, not only Kilanie, you
do have Leon Thomas. You couldn't get away from ut.
I think he'd fucking drop about five different versions of

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Mutt that stayed in Leon Thomas killing it.

Speaker 5 (53:10):
They acted like they wanted to get pregnant when he did. Yes,
it is years. When he did that ship.

Speaker 2 (53:15):
The way they were screaming in there.

Speaker 1 (53:17):
I was like, oh, and then, I mean, y'all could
have your thoughts on her. I hate I want her
to free herself with the shackles of young Thug. But
Mariah the scientists also had really good hits this like,
to me, R and B was a place where I
think if we talk about urban music, which unfortunately, Let's
be very clear, the R and B artists hate being

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referred to as R and B just because they're black,
because they do believe that they have pop music or
alternative music. They want to get out of the shackles
of R and B being a black genre.

Speaker 3 (53:48):
But they to me ran music.

Speaker 2 (53:49):
This year well to your point and Summer Walker, Heart
of a Woman.

Speaker 1 (53:52):
I love that shit.

Speaker 5 (53:53):
As soon as people start saying something is dead, that's
how you know it's still alive.

Speaker 2 (53:57):
And it's just the people that are saying it's WB doing.

Speaker 5 (54:00):
But here's the thing, because the niggasho are saying that
ship don't know what but they're talking about that. They're
not like really tapped into what's happening. But are they're
talking about They're trying to defend their brand.

Speaker 2 (54:11):
Music and what it is.

Speaker 5 (54:12):
It's like, it's not now, that's not how that ship works.

Speaker 7 (54:15):
Talk about this, bro, if you listen to rap TV,
if you listen to Academics TV and yourself hip hop,
you can eat a dick.

Speaker 2 (54:24):
Yeah okay, hmm, you just radio.

Speaker 1 (54:30):
He's like, I'm just throw all these shots out here
right now.

Speaker 7 (54:33):
I don't give a fuck about these niggas what they're
gonna do, because these are music niggas.

Speaker 2 (54:36):
NIGGASO love.

Speaker 7 (54:37):
These are niggas that are capitalizing off of our cultural cache,
like off the ship that we have made popular. And
now you want to come in. I can even say
no outside, nigga, bro, don't you don't know what's playing
in the basement with it.

Speaker 5 (54:51):
And that's and here's what every We didn't get to
it really during the last part talking about Kendrick and Drake.
But like Kendrick and Drake made an economy a.

Speaker 12 (54:59):
Lot of but it's still going off a little bit
too overly, like yeah, some people, some people treated it
like Ruth Chris.

Speaker 2 (55:10):
Some niggas treated like Shawnees and and and.

Speaker 5 (55:13):
It's still up there, and they're still up there, like Chris.
It's a great play, a good meal with well cooked,
well balanced. It's some broccoli and some steak and some potatoes.
Are gritting on this bitch like yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 (55:29):
But it's in a commomy that showed your age in geographic.

Speaker 5 (55:32):
Yeah yeah, I'll be forty five in April, you know,
I'll be forty five in April.

Speaker 2 (55:38):
I've been around ship.

Speaker 4 (55:40):
A good shaw.

Speaker 2 (55:42):
You still out side by the airport, you don't.

Speaker 1 (55:45):
Know, and then you might over to get you a
Sunday Friday.

Speaker 5 (55:52):
You might have got the yeah yeah, yeah yeah, And
you might have you might have you might have clean
then yeah. It might have been with your family somewhere.
You might have aided po folks might you might you
might you might have folks might you.

Speaker 2 (56:09):
Might have got fly fish and some.

Speaker 5 (56:13):
You might have been you might have been off gotby
road somewhere before we get.

Speaker 1 (56:19):
Before we get off of hip hop to because I
want us to talk about all the other levels of entertainment,
like television, film, But before we get off of hip
hop and R and B. This is where I like
to get messy. If y'a don't mind. We've been drinking
a little bit.

Speaker 2 (56:33):
Here we go, Here we go.

Speaker 1 (56:35):
I want us to come up with the top five
lists of the biggest falloffs.

Speaker 2 (56:42):
Now I say that knowing that period.

Speaker 1 (56:45):
I would say period short, okay.

Speaker 5 (56:50):
Okay, okay, drake yeah, target, Drake, target, Drake.

Speaker 2 (56:56):
Target. There's a lot about target.

Speaker 1 (57:00):
There's a lot of that was target really high. You know,
look at Excus target, Target Drake three.

Speaker 13 (57:07):
Nick Yes, yeah, we got damn like pedophilia.

Speaker 2 (57:20):
Like that.

Speaker 1 (57:20):
Yeah, no, no, no, no, I'm not gonna lie normally.

Speaker 2 (57:24):
I hate to Diddy. Did sure?

Speaker 1 (57:27):
Okay, So we have target Drake Nicki, minaj Diddy.

Speaker 2 (57:32):
So we got three one two thirds of young Money
because if it was top ten, it would be Little
Wayne was my solo pick. Wait wait wait wait real
quick number five. Rory Mall, we're not doing that.

Speaker 1 (57:51):
Hold on, we're not doing that. Okay, clearly we all
have different five spots.

Speaker 2 (57:58):
Listen, hold on good enough.

Speaker 1 (58:03):
No no, no, no, no, deontay all right, damn enough on them.

Speaker 2 (58:09):
I love Rory and to Mary, actually I said, that's
the fact.

Speaker 4 (58:15):
That is the fact.

Speaker 7 (58:16):
Like Rory, it's just like those tweets was crazy, wow
tweets bore.

Speaker 5 (58:20):
I mean, you have to eat whatever comes with that,
whatever whatever comes with it, you have to come.

Speaker 2 (58:26):
There's no talking away out of it. There's none of
that you have.

Speaker 1 (58:29):
I wish I wish I had a white board. So
we are we are doing. We are doing twenty twenty five.
Oh the audio will pick it up.

Speaker 2 (58:37):
Somebody heard it.

Speaker 1 (58:39):
We will do okay, So no whiteboard, but we're doing
twenty twenty five? List the fall offs? We have target
target Drake, Nikki Diddy. Now you already said your number five?
I did, okay, so who would be honorable? So who is?

Speaker 2 (59:02):
It's just fun okay, you know, Okay, So I drink straight.

Speaker 1 (59:10):
I think that's the end of the episode. I want
to hear everybody. I want to hear everybody's I want
to hear everybody. So who is your number five fall
off of twenty twenty five?

Speaker 2 (59:22):
Queen slip m okay, wait, no, go ahead, are we
doing this? Are we doing this?

Speaker 1 (59:29):
Go ahead? Explain your reasoning please.

Speaker 4 (59:31):
Okay. I can't go out like that.

Speaker 2 (59:37):
Listen.

Speaker 4 (59:37):
You can have a disagreement, but you can't go out
like that.

Speaker 1 (59:38):
How do you think he went out?

Speaker 8 (59:41):
Oh?

Speaker 4 (59:41):
Yeah, was like all right, Joe, you got it.

Speaker 1 (59:44):
Okay. It's the demotion as a fall off. Even though
he's creating his own content.

Speaker 4 (59:49):
He can create his own content.

Speaker 5 (59:50):
He'll never be he was at podcast and he was
creating his own content before that.

Speaker 2 (59:54):
For that, Yeah, he used to.

Speaker 7 (59:56):
He's still like during the beef, he was reacting taking
his shirt off.

Speaker 5 (01:00:00):
Yeah, throwing, throwing grills and old McIntoshes with old here's
the thing when he got on Joe Buden, it was
kind of like a step up.

Speaker 2 (01:00:09):
For sure, you got to do that. And I'm not
trying to be messy. I ain't trying to be messing.

Speaker 4 (01:00:13):
I'm just saying and.

Speaker 2 (01:00:13):
I'm not trying to be like I want to be
messy so bad. I don't know you could be messy.

Speaker 4 (01:00:18):
You don't know why Queensland we need to makes sense.
It didn't make sense.

Speaker 5 (01:00:21):
I think he feeled the like, wasn't he like the
ultimate like part of like the ignorant demographic, Like, wasn't
he there to appease them?

Speaker 2 (01:00:29):
Not the ignorance graphic.

Speaker 1 (01:00:34):
Graph.

Speaker 2 (01:00:38):
I'm saying like that appealing to the No.

Speaker 5 (01:00:41):
But I'm serious though, but I thought that was the
reason to like I think at some point though, but
that is a it is a thing. But when you listen,
I'm not trying to be funny either, but I'm saying,
like to your point, like during the reaction he's taking
this show, he's doing histrionics and like, but that's his brand.

Speaker 2 (01:00:57):
But that's his brand. But on that pod, on that pod,
you got a number five. I'm gonna keep it real,
white people fell off white people. Then we got white
people and gentlemen a crazy fall off? Do you think so?

Speaker 5 (01:01:11):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:01:12):
Yeah, yeah, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 5 (01:01:13):
Well, I was gonna say what we can Charlie kurk
I was gonna go, I was I was gonna say, Charlie.

Speaker 1 (01:01:19):
Kurkian selected like.

Speaker 2 (01:01:26):
A stool.

Speaker 5 (01:01:27):
Yo, yo ya you feel you fell to hell? Fall
farther than straight to hell. It's not a harder nigga
like yo, No, twenty twenty six. I think we could
you minded just fash forward.

Speaker 2 (01:01:44):
To twenty twenty seven. It's deeper than hell.

Speaker 1 (01:01:46):
Nigga like you. Okay, so all over all white people
Charlie kirk slip, Hey, Ki do you have I don't.

Speaker 2 (01:01:53):
I don't. Damn I don't know. If man I don't
get that's bad company. Yeah, I mean I don't have
a flat for him. Yeah, I mean I said, I'm
not talking, but this is I don't give fall off.

Speaker 5 (01:02:05):
I think I think what what what's being said right
now is that's the standard?

Speaker 2 (01:02:09):
Maybe then the.

Speaker 5 (01:02:10):
Nissan Ultimate, like the Ultimate, the Nissan Ultimate Ultimate Ultimate, Fellow.

Speaker 2 (01:02:19):
Cut the presents. I'm saying, who I'm gonna come get
you one in the morning.

Speaker 5 (01:02:24):
Yeah, Ultimate Coraze ultimate Man fall off, the Ladies s
r T.

Speaker 2 (01:02:30):
They put the I hope, but I hope the sr
that's the Ladies s r T. Bro, that's all. Just
continue on the f fifty B. Yeah, you can't do it,
can't do that. What the ladies ultimate is crazy? The
verse they're gonna have to do. The camera they gonna
do to turn the camera.

Speaker 5 (01:02:47):
To say the maxima or it's too expensive to expensive
handles on then okay, great handling.

Speaker 2 (01:02:52):
How the baby daddy's gonna get around?

Speaker 1 (01:02:54):
Yes, okay, I think about the I don't even look.

Speaker 2 (01:02:57):
I don't all range what they're gonna die, what they're
gonna drive the r n.

Speaker 5 (01:03:05):
C.

Speaker 2 (01:03:07):
What are they gonna do?

Speaker 3 (01:03:09):
You said, you said, what are the nursing texts gonna drive?

Speaker 5 (01:03:13):
I love my man pull up with the fuzzy wheel,
in the fuzzy wheel.

Speaker 2 (01:03:21):
Playing with y'all. Text message when this episode dropped, No.

Speaker 1 (01:03:25):
Jesus Christ, I mean my I mean you said white people,
but I will I want to put is there not
a way to put uh side niggas inside bitches as
the fall off?

Speaker 2 (01:03:36):
And I want to I want to do that.

Speaker 1 (01:03:38):
Relationships are the fall off. I think this year they
talked about having a boyfriend being embarrassing. We saw the
astronomer Ceo get caught on the cold plate big camp crazy.

Speaker 3 (01:03:50):
Wait wait he was married, she was married.

Speaker 1 (01:03:52):
They was just having a little side and then unfortunately
somebody who I thought was rocking with us, summer Girl,
Oh not Pizza Hut.

Speaker 3 (01:04:03):
I think side Chicks.

Speaker 1 (01:04:04):
As a whole took a little bit of a fall
with with that coming out and to play, and so
I feel like side niggas side bitches took a huge
ball off. And then y'all are also the reasons why
Bogue was able to have a whole goddamn article about
having a man being embarrassing.

Speaker 4 (01:04:20):
I say this, some of Walker's men line up. It
looks like Newports and.

Speaker 1 (01:04:27):
Ports and black and mind roster.

Speaker 2 (01:04:31):
Baby. I don't think you know who you are? No,
are you fine?

Speaker 1 (01:04:38):
But how is her final.

Speaker 2 (01:04:39):
Boss like Kentucky Fried Chicken?

Speaker 5 (01:04:41):
Like like how was how was Colonel Sanders.

Speaker 2 (01:04:47):
Whatever whatever going through?

Speaker 7 (01:04:49):
When you may try to recreate that, I think that
white man is gonna.

Speaker 1 (01:04:53):
Give you pain for she wasn't really dealing with with
white men. Know we see she was dealing with rich
the kids. She wasn't dealing with the white men for real.
That was just for the cover art, and that man
died rip like, so she wasn't really going to the
white man route. She was really dealing with the you
gonna keep fucking with your baby mama route. Well, I
still want to be here too, and I think, to

(01:05:13):
be fair, I hate the backlass she got because a
lot of bitches sign up to be that girl.

Speaker 3 (01:05:18):
A lot of bitches are that girl old white man.

Speaker 2 (01:05:20):
No no, no, to.

Speaker 1 (01:05:21):
Risch the kid to a man that's not leaving his
baby mama to a man, to a man where you
know he's constantly gonna be with somebody else, but you're
just willing to take whatever crumbs he's willing to give
you because you want to be around. And so to me,
if we talk about the fall off in terms of
how we envision a relationship in twenty twenty five twenty
twenty six, however you want to take it to the
next year. It's been interesting to see everybody get called

(01:05:44):
out for being what they is. I think it was
also interesting, and we talked about it. As far as
a woman, you can't even talk about how you unhappy
if you would have let nigga. We saw I should
Curry get the blunt of it this year for expression.
We saw Michelle Obama get it too, for admitted she
was happy with Obama.

Speaker 2 (01:06:01):
Get all this right.

Speaker 1 (01:06:03):
Here we go, here, we go ahead.

Speaker 4 (01:06:07):
Yeah, yeah, stop embarrassing.

Speaker 1 (01:06:10):
Yeah no, it's the men embarrassing us.

Speaker 4 (01:06:12):
No, it's how is stuff embarrassing?

Speaker 1 (01:06:16):
Oh yeah, how is one of the greatest?

Speaker 2 (01:06:19):
Yeah? Wait till you retire? What did not do? What
do what Larksa did? Wait till the nigga retire to
start embarrassing. Yeah, and she's doing it a lot. And
this nigga trying to learn how to golf.

Speaker 5 (01:06:35):
Oh my god, Oh my god, he's coming back and
probably get a Nike deal now.

Speaker 2 (01:06:41):
Because it's the thing about light skinned relationship. Oh my god,
your skin right, identify his skin? Look all together.

Speaker 5 (01:06:49):
Niggas think we said, okay, okay, very love my life
like you sure, okay, okay, okay.

Speaker 7 (01:07:02):
That do It's like Steph and I eat together. How
many times do you gotta ask it? If y'all siblings
before you just like you know what, I'm over this.
I wish you nigga at the gas station would just
say what's up?

Speaker 1 (01:07:15):
That's what she said.

Speaker 2 (01:07:16):
She did.

Speaker 7 (01:07:18):
You could have just been a chef this nigga all
the money in the world. Maybe, Like why you got
her going?

Speaker 1 (01:07:23):
I do have a pant set from her.

Speaker 5 (01:07:26):
I just wanted you know what I'm saying, Steph. He
seemed like a good enough nigga.

Speaker 1 (01:07:29):
I think that's my problem enough nigga, And.

Speaker 5 (01:07:31):
Why do the good niggas always got to get it.

Speaker 1 (01:07:33):
Just because just because he could shoot mad threes doesn't
make him a good nigga?

Speaker 4 (01:07:38):
What guesses she is?

Speaker 1 (01:07:40):
She's pumping no gas Texico?

Speaker 2 (01:07:44):
She's not, She's not no gas? What's that?

Speaker 4 (01:07:50):
What's that?

Speaker 2 (01:07:50):
Excellent on boulevard?

Speaker 1 (01:07:58):
Yeah, baby, I think I think this year was interesting
amidst everything. I think we got into a lot of
people's relationships that we didn't need to.

Speaker 5 (01:08:07):
Yeah, like why do we need to know this social media?
Though social media allows.

Speaker 2 (01:08:12):
Yeah.

Speaker 7 (01:08:14):
The thing is is like this is my thing, Like
the podcast is one thing. My personal life is my
personal life. Need my personal life to be a topic
of conversation because the thing is, once you give it away,
you can't get it.

Speaker 2 (01:08:26):
Can't get get it there, that's.

Speaker 1 (01:08:27):
You, I know, but you can't bring I know I'm
being a way more private in twenty twenty six.

Speaker 2 (01:08:33):
All right, I think that argument.

Speaker 4 (01:08:37):
Yeah, it's a right for you too.

Speaker 3 (01:08:39):
Late podcast almost ten yures.

Speaker 5 (01:08:42):
Yeah, ten years are just publicized. It's over the last episode.

Speaker 2 (01:08:46):
Just what those But there is an e like me.

Speaker 1 (01:08:50):
I ain't saying.

Speaker 2 (01:08:50):
Niggas don't like privatized.

Speaker 4 (01:08:51):
It's crazy.

Speaker 5 (01:08:52):
Privatize your privatizing, man, these relations books.

Speaker 3 (01:08:56):
I wrote My book New York Times best seller.

Speaker 2 (01:08:58):
Is Yeah after this you.

Speaker 1 (01:09:00):
Now, I'm done telling people my business.

Speaker 2 (01:09:02):
Telling people about Yeah, what can we say?

Speaker 1 (01:09:05):
Wow? Not?

Speaker 2 (01:09:09):
It's crazy?

Speaker 1 (01:09:14):
Okay, Before we get out of here, I do want
to talk real quick. We talked music, We talked about
We talked R and B, we talked follow us. Can
we talk real quick? Television and film? We kind of
hinted or discussed a bit the blockbuster buy of Netflix
acquiring Warner Brothers and HBO. I think probably the biggest
film of the year, which was re released and shot

(01:09:37):
in many different films was Sinners.

Speaker 2 (01:09:38):
Oh for sure.

Speaker 1 (01:09:39):
And we're also talking about IP more because of it.
What he was able to get from that. I think
that's also interesting coming off of a year where the
top two films were fucking hot Oppenheimer and Barbie during
the pandemic. Then we have Wicked that was also a
huge cell this year. What are our thoughts on We're
television and film ended or landed in twenty twenty five.

Speaker 2 (01:10:03):
What I say centers again.

Speaker 7 (01:10:06):
Okay, watch Blacks, Turns and Conditions by Khalil Johnson if
you want to see black sorillas. Yeah, I'm in that bag, okay,
and I'm here for the black surrealism t J.

Speaker 1 (01:10:17):
Insert kofee right here, coofye, coofy whatever cookie.

Speaker 2 (01:10:21):
That that's that's.

Speaker 14 (01:10:27):
Or whatever, yeah, whatever the whatever, whatever they put on
their head. You know, sho would the brimyh Yeah, that's crazy.

Speaker 3 (01:10:39):
Why do I decide to be around man of women's.

Speaker 2 (01:10:43):
Bravy, sauce or gravy. This guy's got a break fucking idea.

Speaker 4 (01:10:47):
They can make some macaroni.

Speaker 1 (01:10:51):
I cannot feel you.

Speaker 2 (01:10:54):
Macaroni and cheese. I love it. I love it.

Speaker 4 (01:10:56):
No sauce on it, but it's okay.

Speaker 2 (01:10:58):
It needed touch of my mother's sauce. I love it.

Speaker 1 (01:11:01):
Okay.

Speaker 2 (01:11:02):
So here's yeah, I hate you. So I hate both.

Speaker 5 (01:11:07):
The move that the move that Cooler made with Cinners
is like a dope ass power move. The question I
have now is who else based off his president, who
else can pull that same.

Speaker 1 (01:11:19):
Twenty twenty six, allegedly we have him doing black pans.

Speaker 5 (01:11:22):
Black panther, but no, no, it's confirmed. It's confirmed, and
Denzel's supposed to be in it. Let's put a quick gonna.

Speaker 1 (01:11:27):
Piss me off. I know that they're gonna piss.

Speaker 5 (01:11:29):
Me off from sucking Mountain's gonna be from legos queen, right,
legs queens?

Speaker 2 (01:11:42):
What's going down to?

Speaker 4 (01:11:43):
Dark?

Speaker 2 (01:11:44):
Yeah? When? When? When they off dream the black black?

Speaker 4 (01:11:51):
Yo?

Speaker 2 (01:11:53):
Okay for us? Yeah?

Speaker 9 (01:11:55):
Yeah, Peter on the line, and now I have a
feeling they're like, okay, okay, yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:12:07):
Not on my water.

Speaker 5 (01:12:09):
Literally would gonna be like this, You're not gonna be
the black panther.

Speaker 2 (01:12:13):
On my watch? Like did ass son, my son, my
son Jake run here? Yo? Just I would love that.
I would love that black Yeah. Yeah, I'll be pissed.

(01:12:36):
We gotta do.

Speaker 5 (01:12:37):
I give you that we got we got an oscar
and that they're not doing sure.

Speaker 2 (01:12:45):
He has no chances, none, none.

Speaker 5 (01:12:48):
Before she even opened her first case of my brainy and.

Speaker 1 (01:12:52):
Now I do want to talk about because it did
go viral our thoughts here on selective ignorance of Denzel Spikes.

Speaker 2 (01:13:02):
I's to lowest review. Man is a terrible movie. Okay,
it's not good.

Speaker 7 (01:13:06):
It's just it's the thing is like the bias that
I wanted to be good, but it was that. But
you have to be objective the real nigga, and you
was like, a look, it was a first of all.

Speaker 5 (01:13:19):
First of all, first of all, my nigga goes seventy years,
no line.

Speaker 2 (01:13:23):
Up, didn't get a line up and he had Yeah
did that?

Speaker 4 (01:13:29):
Why they did that? That's what threw him up his game?

Speaker 1 (01:13:32):
Well because in the film he wasn't seventy in the
forty five and.

Speaker 7 (01:13:36):
We need to make an honest point about something. What's
that The only person that can get on that screen
and show up Denzel is Jeffrey right, yeah, I was.

Speaker 2 (01:13:45):
Candidate. Yes, people like one of his, like like Jesse
Wright is really like that. But yeah like that. Yeah,
you don't want him to be like a dark mysterious.

Speaker 5 (01:13:59):
Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, because because they put him in centers,
he probably would have sucked everybody if he finishing to.

Speaker 2 (01:14:06):
Up their whole cast.

Speaker 1 (01:14:07):
So we're talking about what we didn't like in terms
of television and film with streaming and all the things happening,
what film did we like or TV?

Speaker 5 (01:14:18):
Let's talk about what we didn't like. Let's talk about
one more thing.

Speaker 2 (01:14:22):
One more thing was not better than weapons. I don't
think it was terrible.

Speaker 5 (01:14:27):
I don't think it wasn't better than centers in particular,
that doesn't do.

Speaker 2 (01:14:30):
It for him.

Speaker 4 (01:14:31):
When when the nigga got the big sixteen above the
house and the dream.

Speaker 2 (01:14:35):
Yeah yeah, yeah, But to me, that's that's a small thing.

Speaker 14 (01:14:41):
I ain't go lie, I ain't go out when the
nigga ran down the street full full speed, the Asian nigga,
all yeah, I think.

Speaker 2 (01:14:47):
I think.

Speaker 1 (01:14:48):
I think in terms of yeah, in terms of they're
trying to do like a prequel of the Crazy Lady
that even did all of them, I think we should
just started with her. We just the same way we
do it and all that ship. We just should have.

Speaker 2 (01:15:04):
Started with her perspective. That was perspective shots. It did
really tie together.

Speaker 5 (01:15:08):
For me, elongate the whole it was without taking everybody's perspective.

Speaker 2 (01:15:15):
What is the the movie? All you have is a perspective,
Because let's hurry.

Speaker 5 (01:15:19):
Up and get to the fact. That this niggas speeding
niggas cold cam.

Speaker 4 (01:15:23):
Yeah, that's crazy, nigga standing up, niggas standing.

Speaker 2 (01:15:24):
Up, and it was and was to school by itself,
was popping. Yeah. You know what someone on Crazy she
wanted a bowl for her water. I was like, yeah,
it's something, but I laughed the whole time. It was
actually funny as a as. All I did was laugh, like.

Speaker 5 (01:15:41):
When you say a bowl for the water, white people
should the hospitality. Oh, I gotta fall I gotta let's
remix this. A little bit fall off b ms.

Speaker 2 (01:15:57):
Oh, I mean big fall off also, yeah, but we
still was like.

Speaker 4 (01:16:03):
You know it's still little fell off crazy.

Speaker 2 (01:16:06):
Yeah, that was a big fall off, little biga.

Speaker 1 (01:16:09):
I mean, to be honest with you, I mean, quick question,
what's going on with Big Beach.

Speaker 4 (01:16:13):
I don't think going on with him? Why is he
He's just like.

Speaker 2 (01:16:18):
Joke that nigga to chill. Honestly, chill.

Speaker 5 (01:16:23):
A lot of times, you guys had the wrong people
around them. They don't got nobody telling him like yo,
don't do that, no more, don't put the bag.

Speaker 2 (01:16:30):
The Beijing too, crazys, just Beijing here, it's just here.

Speaker 1 (01:16:34):
Yeah, but the Beijing might be Young j doing.

Speaker 15 (01:16:37):
To Beijing Jamaine Jackson like all the guys doing Beijing
putting feels like a cockatool Joe Butten, Oh my god,
oh my god.

Speaker 1 (01:16:51):
Okay, so then what films did we like this year?

Speaker 2 (01:16:53):
Great? Let's get into the great.

Speaker 1 (01:16:56):
Okay, And I'm mad I wanted to see I'm waiting
for it to still into streaming. I'll say I'm gonna
take it off of films and go into television, which yes,
it's getting a season two premiere in February. Paradise Paradise Yeah, yeah,

(01:17:17):
came around. Oh my Paradise was quality. Really enjoyed it,
and I'm finally glad that Paradise was fire. I also
will say I'm glad. I know it's the season season,
so here we go.

Speaker 2 (01:17:32):
I had my thing was Smoke. It was like I like,
I really like Journey Smollette, but I love Yeah Co Yeah.
I I just didn't believe it.

Speaker 1 (01:17:44):
I didn't believe bring back love Craft Country but without
Old Boy, because you feel about so I was, I.

Speaker 2 (01:17:52):
Was gonna talk about the Earl when we started resources.
Lamb Man is like.

Speaker 5 (01:17:56):
That, though, so I say about Taylor Sheridan is like
conservative white Shonda rhyme, like these shows like the Nigga
has a million of these six American propaganda.

Speaker 2 (01:18:11):
What is good as the American.

Speaker 1 (01:18:12):
And this giggle is American propaganda.

Speaker 5 (01:18:16):
But like he's got a trillion of these ships like
Lyoness I Love Lying, Love Lying has slept on series
this year Talk to Meese Government che Okay, yeah, okay,
I just started getting.

Speaker 2 (01:18:30):
That Yeah, yeah, yeah, Apple.

Speaker 5 (01:18:32):
TV, Yeah, David Yeah, because of plural that yeah, government
cheese plurb Netflix wayward, So I haven't Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:18:42):
I couldn't finish. I couldn't finish it. The whitely as
I didn't get into it.

Speaker 2 (01:18:46):
I heard it's the White Lady from Hereditary.

Speaker 3 (01:18:49):
Now let me ask y'all.

Speaker 1 (01:18:49):
Then, overall, clearly seeing the direction we're going with television film,
people are hating that we're no longer getting twenty episode seasons,
we're getting eight to ten. We are going back to
the format this year, I will say of the weekly drops.
Somehow the streaming platforms was like, we can't give y'all
all of this at once because you're gonna watch it
one day and then no one's gonna.

Speaker 2 (01:19:09):
Talk about it.

Speaker 1 (01:19:10):
So what are your thoughts on the direction of where
we're going.

Speaker 2 (01:19:13):
I love you, do you like I'll say this because.

Speaker 1 (01:19:16):
You're a binging horn.

Speaker 5 (01:19:18):
Oh of course, so you know what I'm saying. I
know you just wanted to call your horror.

Speaker 2 (01:19:22):
That was an angle like you was find a way
to like you right there.

Speaker 5 (01:19:30):
That's what my brother from the East Side twenty one savage.

Speaker 1 (01:19:34):
I'm a whole too, I.

Speaker 3 (01:19:35):
Love twenty one, twenty one, twenty one give album.

Speaker 1 (01:19:38):
Now.

Speaker 7 (01:19:38):
This is the thing about allowing us to binge is
that now that's the only way I want to watch
them balance.

Speaker 2 (01:19:45):
So yeah, you can restrict it back like Task on HBO.
So good, Yeah, so good.

Speaker 1 (01:19:52):
Weekly was hard.

Speaker 5 (01:19:53):
It was hard, Yeah, And I would say, if you
want to make make me wait, make me wait a day,
really one a day, like stop trying to First of all,
it is a very fast moving society, so like by
episode seven, Niggas Forget about You, episode three, Honestly.

Speaker 2 (01:20:09):
If it's not good, if it's not good enough, if
good enough, which means it needs to be phenomenal.

Speaker 5 (01:20:14):
But by being able to binge it, it's enough for
me to be like.

Speaker 2 (01:20:18):
I'm sticking with it. I could have.

Speaker 3 (01:20:21):
Task was so good by the way, one day you're right.

Speaker 2 (01:20:25):
Here did get.

Speaker 1 (01:20:26):
Renewed as well for a second season, which is because
they killed the main characters. So I'm so confused.

Speaker 2 (01:20:32):
With what he's going to go a little left. But
here's my I think the.

Speaker 1 (01:20:36):
Task was so good. Great, white man, more, white man more.

Speaker 5 (01:20:43):
That's no niggas to play for that series is to
go back.

Speaker 2 (01:20:50):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, you're right.

Speaker 1 (01:20:56):
You're right the people who died the brother let's talk
about that Jake in the family. You're right, because.

Speaker 5 (01:21:03):
You'll kissed on it a little bit. But y'all see
this nigga go from priests to alcohol.

Speaker 2 (01:21:09):
Yeah, you're general, you're right. Let's go, let's get it.
Let's get it.

Speaker 5 (01:21:16):
When I'm starting making an executive producer credit speaking to existence, y'all.

Speaker 2 (01:21:20):
See why curious.

Speaker 5 (01:21:22):
But here's but here's what I say about like week
to week versus the bench, Right, you can't have it
both ways. Like if it's gonna be weak to week,
then just don't watch it and let it stack up.

Speaker 2 (01:21:33):
But I can't do that. But that's the problem.

Speaker 5 (01:21:35):
Niggas want the I gotta want to be in the no,
but niggas want to be in the middle of the congress.

Speaker 2 (01:21:40):
We just waited to bing it and I'm like, yes, yes, yes,
but y'all let us do that for so long.

Speaker 5 (01:21:47):
But do do y'all watch the film series and shows
have Facebook clubs because like niggas could binge it, watch
it And that's what I like.

Speaker 2 (01:21:55):
All that one time you can watch the reaction.

Speaker 7 (01:21:58):
It down.

Speaker 2 (01:22:00):
Yeah, the breakdowns.

Speaker 4 (01:22:01):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:22:03):
Coming to Grins and Eggs podcast Patreon soon you will
see fucking breaking down series.

Speaker 2 (01:22:11):
And that's the thing though, like like.

Speaker 1 (01:22:12):
But but even it's crazy because when I watch fourb
oh my god, so do.

Speaker 2 (01:22:20):
I love his tape?

Speaker 1 (01:22:22):
This is he's a different He's different than that.

Speaker 7 (01:22:24):
Clearly doesn't want anything to do with us with nobody
great and it's like, you like, just like, but it's
also one of those things is like it's kind of
appealing that.

Speaker 2 (01:22:39):
He don't like us.

Speaker 1 (01:22:41):
That's crazy, don't It's like I just watched him with
Z way he was he was, he was gags.

Speaker 5 (01:22:47):
Way of course, I think I think he likes I
think he wants more for us, Yeah, he does.

Speaker 2 (01:22:52):
I think he wants more from us.

Speaker 5 (01:22:53):
But but the fact that he does it while kind
of like looking down on us a little bit where it's.

Speaker 2 (01:22:58):
Like it's his Congress with Speedy. I could tell he
was looking at Speedy like nigga. It's I'm much like belief,
like how are we? How are you? How are you? Like?

Speaker 5 (01:23:08):
I'm a crip from Long Beach and and I already
So here's the thing.

Speaker 1 (01:23:13):
And I like the way he approaches that to where
y'all are cool with him, not fucking with us.

Speaker 3 (01:23:17):
But then we have.

Speaker 1 (01:23:18):
Pharrell who's gidding. That's a different and we talk about
niggas you see it.

Speaker 5 (01:23:26):
You see you can't want you can't want justice when
it happened to your peace here, But then when it's
happening to the people now, it's I'm a political Okay,
it looks yeah, I mean I think I think of
your head, Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:23:42):
Damn, I think.

Speaker 1 (01:23:45):
I think. I think that's what we're realizing too, in
terms of with the political landscape changing in hip hop
and people coming out more forward. We have a Saple
who actually like, well, I ain't gotta deal with that ship.
We have phar this year saying.

Speaker 2 (01:23:56):
The protected but he's protecting money.

Speaker 1 (01:23:58):
Here we go.

Speaker 7 (01:24:00):
Quick, glad you're free. It was very political when we
were in saying free rocket. That's a very political thing.
It was politics that got you.

Speaker 2 (01:24:11):
Out of here. Everything we do is immersed in politics. Everything.

Speaker 5 (01:24:16):
People niggas love when the politics work for them and
then when it's time to stand up.

Speaker 1 (01:24:21):
For when it doesn't work for them.

Speaker 5 (01:24:25):
But why, but why because niggas are cowards politic Rihanna,
why are you asking me about Palistinic?

Speaker 2 (01:24:37):
Right?

Speaker 5 (01:24:37):
The crucifixion of Jesus was political. Absolutely, The Crucifixion of
Jesus was political everything everything.

Speaker 2 (01:24:45):
Yeah, but life is polly.

Speaker 5 (01:24:48):
It just means the people like, there's no you can't
separate anything else more than one. Yeah, get separated from
any aspect of life and to sectionality. Yeah, yeah, the
fact that we're alive and that's all political.

Speaker 4 (01:25:03):
Bro Like.

Speaker 5 (01:25:05):
But when they when they say Muhammad Ali, they quote
him when they say he the greatest, Well, what did
he do?

Speaker 2 (01:25:09):
He put his ship on the line, And he's not
the great one of the niggas. The funk up. He's
the greatest because he didn't he put it on the line.

Speaker 5 (01:25:16):
He put it he said, y'all don't give a fuck
about this ship as it relates, like.

Speaker 1 (01:25:19):
You know what's crazy? I said, We're gonna have brought
it back to politics.

Speaker 5 (01:25:23):
For god damn episode, everything we do everything politics.

Speaker 1 (01:25:28):
Everything is politics, and we didn't even everything. No, that
was very They said, let's bring the white girls back,
let's remove the bbl.

Speaker 2 (01:25:38):
Over outside, the horrible person.

Speaker 3 (01:25:42):
Like why, I'm not gonna lie.

Speaker 1 (01:25:44):
Here's the thing, the same way that you said in
the last episode, we make celebrities. These these people that
we have to look up to in these leaders. Cidney
Sweeney is a white blonde with big titties that just
happened to Atlanta role in a popular television series that
now we're not looking at her to fucking talk about anything.

Speaker 2 (01:26:03):
But you gotta be mindful of what you engage with.

Speaker 5 (01:26:06):
If the Ragi run is a Nazi propaganda ad, you
got to take the.

Speaker 1 (01:26:11):
Yeah, you're ready, you're ready and cool sounds good, which
is why at the same time we just talked about
last episode, no empathy for the people that were waiting
for the paychecks to clear from Diddy. Like, at the
end of the day, there's a price for everybody to
align with whatever makes sense. If the price is.

Speaker 2 (01:26:26):
Right, I'm in alignment with you.

Speaker 7 (01:26:29):
Because the thing is is like I don't feel bad
for anybody in that the only people I feel bad
for are the victims.

Speaker 1 (01:26:35):
But that's what I'm saying. There's people appearing to be
victims when they're not.

Speaker 7 (01:26:38):
You can make Cassie seem like implicated nineteen. He signed
it to a ten album deal at nineteen. I never
dropped the deal. She's never dropped an album, and she's
been on the drugs because of this nigga ever since
she met. Yeah, you can't blame somebody like that. You
know what I'm saying. These are victims, you know what
I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (01:26:56):
But like the people, people that are on the payroll and.

Speaker 7 (01:26:58):
Turning a blond auntie like yo. Quick question politics. This
is the question of twenty twenty five. Where is Farnsworth?

Speaker 5 (01:27:06):
Oh, I've been asking that question.

Speaker 2 (01:27:09):
Wait wait wait.

Speaker 1 (01:27:10):
They did say allegedly he was a part of Kanye
West when he was doing the church ship.

Speaker 2 (01:27:16):
Susworth was around during that.

Speaker 1 (01:27:18):
Yes, but even that, let's be very clear, Kanye, that
was a fall from Grayson what twenty twenty three we
saw that happen.

Speaker 3 (01:27:25):
So to me, I think he's just aligned himself with relief.

Speaker 5 (01:27:28):
I used to see this all the time a studios
in the street wherever. I haven't seen that nigga since
like for a reason, you think.

Speaker 1 (01:27:36):
There's been a lot, mind you, I thought we would
have got the resurgence of that nigga with us celebrating
the outcast like.

Speaker 2 (01:27:45):
An you think it's a reason though, I mean, I mean.

Speaker 1 (01:27:47):
Maybe and maybe we get in there. To me, this
has been the year ironically, and it's what showed to
me that in terms of entertainment, our best years might
be behind us because this year in terms of that's
the bull light lineups, in terms of tours, in terms
of the even b Et awards, Right, it's all been

(01:28:08):
an oh to the last kind of twenty year anniversary
of what two thousand and five.

Speaker 2 (01:28:13):
That doesn't mean it's over. That means it's time for something.

Speaker 5 (01:28:16):
Yeah, and I think new legends and and and like
you know, put to bed.

Speaker 1 (01:28:21):
But no, we we've also been celebrating though these twenty years.

Speaker 7 (01:28:24):
Like twenty years, there also is a new audience. There
also is a new mentality, and there also are new
creators and these people need.

Speaker 2 (01:28:33):
And we got to curate that. You have to curate that.

Speaker 7 (01:28:37):
Actively curious only in the podcast face, put in the music.

Speaker 1 (01:28:41):
So then as old heads, I would like to then
ask that in twenty twenty.

Speaker 2 (01:28:45):
Six, you said, what ye.

Speaker 1 (01:28:48):
Like doing that?

Speaker 2 (01:28:49):
It's old heads, you see that? And she almost got
got away.

Speaker 3 (01:28:54):
Shut up, shut up, shut up.

Speaker 1 (01:28:59):
I would like to know than in twenty twenty six,
if we're done celebrated these twenty year anniversaries, we've got
we talked about outcasts, we have Millennium Tour dropping for
the third time.

Speaker 3 (01:29:09):
We have all these like you know what, listen, they don't.

Speaker 1 (01:29:13):
Eat a pretty Ricky and Sammy and Bobby, you know
they are And I love it. I love it.

Speaker 2 (01:29:21):
I've gone twice.

Speaker 3 (01:29:22):
I love it.

Speaker 1 (01:29:22):
I mean, although apparently one by one they're being knocked
off by domestic violence charges.

Speaker 3 (01:29:28):
I would say that they are. It's terrible.

Speaker 1 (01:29:31):
RSVP. Gotta add deep DV to that ship music Nigga
iSIG immediately RSBP DV. Let's go ahead and rename that.
But anyways, let's go ahead and talk about then, who's
headlining are twenty twenty six. That's how we get out
of here. In terms of music film, Let's talk about

(01:29:55):
who we predict to headline our twenty twenty six headline
headline lines like who, by the way, I do want
to say only because he's out. I don't know if
y'all are in the thirties and up, but y'all need
to get with him. I'm telling y'all right now, and
I can't wait wait, I can't wait. No, no, no, it
needs a little work, but I'm gonna tell y'all right

(01:30:16):
now for y'all that do not know different, and I'm
gonna be waving it in the air, possibly internationally, y'all,
y'all better get an NBA young boy. I don't care
how many kids he got. No, no, no, no, wait, who
are y'all thought?

Speaker 2 (01:30:33):
Who did y'all think? I was gonna say?

Speaker 1 (01:30:35):
Who?

Speaker 2 (01:30:36):
Max? Me? What?

Speaker 1 (01:30:40):
No, no, no, So to me, he's finally off of house.

Speaker 4 (01:30:44):
Guys, that's done.

Speaker 2 (01:30:45):
Y'all might be a young boy from me research.

Speaker 5 (01:30:49):
I'm in the market, go to prison for more than
five years, they come home cook.

Speaker 3 (01:30:54):
Nobody gives a fuck doude.

Speaker 2 (01:30:57):
Every time, every time, I'll tell you.

Speaker 1 (01:31:00):
But also, Max, we didn't have super hits before he
went into jail.

Speaker 2 (01:31:04):
Like hits.

Speaker 1 (01:31:05):
He didn't.

Speaker 3 (01:31:05):
He was cool.

Speaker 2 (01:31:06):
Controversial. Uh oh here we gon xb is. This is
a controversial, right, don't I think? Who comeback?

Speaker 5 (01:31:16):
Player of the Year come Back twenty twenty six, redeemed
himself twenty twenty six.

Speaker 2 (01:31:22):
Jake, I knew he's gonna say that Cold. I see that.
I think that album is gonna be so hard. I
hold the fall off.

Speaker 7 (01:31:28):
I hope will be Listen, listen Cold disappointed fall. Jaco
hasn't had a bad album since period and before that,
he didn't have.

Speaker 3 (01:31:39):
A bad No, he didn't, and I hate him for that.

Speaker 2 (01:31:42):
Sad he did.

Speaker 1 (01:31:43):
No, no, and I'm a j cole Stan which one
all eyes on, all eyes on me, for your eyes.

Speaker 2 (01:31:50):
Only, that was had.

Speaker 1 (01:31:51):
That wasn't horrible, nigga, for your eyes only, for your
eyes that for your eyes only was not a good album.
Stop it stop it stopping was okay? It was Neighbors,
that's it.

Speaker 2 (01:32:02):
It wasn't it.

Speaker 1 (01:32:04):
But no, no, no, Kald was phenomenal. Forest Hills Drives phenomenal.

Speaker 2 (01:32:09):
Was phenomenal. And you think for your eyes on this, I.

Speaker 3 (01:32:11):
Like kal D way more than for your eyes on.

Speaker 2 (01:32:12):
Yeah. No no, Because let's be very clear.

Speaker 1 (01:32:14):
When we talk about people being happy, remember no, no, no, no,
it's not even the White Ship. When you think when
you think about artists, right, when we talk about all
R and B stars we hate when them but just
get happy R and B we hate chances album. When
you were talking about loving his wife to me, For
Your Eyes Only was like, oh, I have a baby coming,
I love my wife. I'm a family man. I didn't
want to hear none of that. Ship it was, but

(01:32:36):
that's what I'm saying. It was no, no, no. The
daughter The album was also.

Speaker 5 (01:32:41):
Like many don't like introspective albums. I figured because you
said you didn't like Miss.

Speaker 1 (01:32:45):
I hated Miss Morland the Big Steve.

Speaker 5 (01:32:47):
You don't like introspect How can you listen to that album?

Speaker 1 (01:32:50):
Because don't make me like to me, when I listen
to music, there is a there's a the way I
listen to music. And I've talked about Wilson music. I
like to feel something, the idea that here we go.

Speaker 4 (01:33:10):
Song for you I did not.

Speaker 1 (01:33:13):
For Your Eyes Only was my least favorite j CO album.

Speaker 5 (01:33:16):
Behind you, I could see that lower. That's fair fairly
close to the bottom.

Speaker 1 (01:33:23):
But so then what's you said, fairly close? For your
eyes Only is at the bottom though correct.

Speaker 2 (01:33:28):
Absolutely not.

Speaker 6 (01:33:29):
I got for you?

Speaker 2 (01:33:30):
What above that you gotta understand?

Speaker 3 (01:33:31):
For your Eyes Only is above k D.

Speaker 7 (01:33:33):
I'm gonna say this too as like like I had
just had my first daughter. There's there's like the political landscape,
it connected the season it was, I was really connected
to you.

Speaker 2 (01:33:45):
But but here what I say that.

Speaker 1 (01:33:48):
Outside of the neighbors thing, when you see his debt nigga,
don't revisit the album very much. But when you go
and see j Cole live and I've done every dream Fest,
the least songs are played.

Speaker 2 (01:33:59):
From the album.

Speaker 5 (01:34:01):
Want to you maybe that album wasn't for the public,
it was for the daughter.

Speaker 1 (01:34:05):
Yeah.

Speaker 7 (01:34:05):
No, And I think that's some real nigga ship, Like
he even turned his back on the album like it's
not about Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:34:11):
I think that if Jap for sure is gonna have
the twenty twenty.

Speaker 5 (01:34:15):
As still talking about him, he didn't really saw that
fall like I'm gonna give you to come back. He's
got a narrative for sure, but the only way he
can come back that narrative is if that album.

Speaker 2 (01:34:25):
But I agree has to be sure. But here's what
I said, Wait, wait, and I have.

Speaker 1 (01:34:29):
A question following though, does he do it again like
he normally does it with no features or does.

Speaker 2 (01:34:34):
He need features now as a comeback? He can't do
features again? It is what I believe.

Speaker 5 (01:34:43):
Jokes it, that's it. That's what I said to you.
I said the only way y'all. You know him and
Kendrick battle back and forth.

Speaker 4 (01:34:50):
Yeah, some Jada.

Speaker 1 (01:34:52):
Yeah, that's the only that's the only feature he could have.
But he doesn't do.

Speaker 3 (01:34:56):
He doesn't do albums with features.

Speaker 2 (01:34:57):
Like if he wanted to go typical. J I. D.

Speaker 1 (01:34:59):
Has had a hell of year and he's always gonna
have dragon artists though I don't think that count like
well no, and he has the whole albums with them
where he don't put niggas on the No, that's his
thing that way.

Speaker 5 (01:35:10):
He doesn't have that far to fall though, because he
has to fight the narrative, but he doesn't have to
fight whack music. It's much easier to fight the narrative
than it is. This is the good part album right now.
Their album was trash. We don't make good music no more,
and now you're trying to convince us that you can
still do it.

Speaker 1 (01:35:24):
But he's also outright everybody that he's been a feature on,
so no one ever questions his ability to But it's
gonna be interesting to see him come out after this.

Speaker 2 (01:35:33):
H what are you talking about I do.

Speaker 1 (01:35:34):
Want to I do want to ask Big Cat though,
because he said he got somebody else's the biggest.

Speaker 2 (01:35:38):
Yeah for twenty twenty six, who comes up?

Speaker 4 (01:35:40):
It ain't gonna be in hip hop though I like it.
He's a hip hop artist, but it ain't gonna being
hip hop. Okay, It's gonna be Drake Ship acting bad.

Speaker 8 (01:35:48):
You know.

Speaker 2 (01:35:49):
It's funny.

Speaker 5 (01:35:49):
I meant to say this before, but I remember remember
early in the beef when Fifty was in Canada. I
forgot what was going on at the time, and he
was taking pictures together and see him talking, and I
was like, damn, that'd be kind of cool if Fifty
put him in one of his you know what I mean.
And then it didn't happen at least thus far, and
I was like, Okay, I would like to see that.

Speaker 2 (01:36:05):
The funny part.

Speaker 5 (01:36:05):
About that is that, like, let's say you put fifty
put Drake in power, like he would still be competing
with Kendrick's performance because Kendrick.

Speaker 2 (01:36:13):
Bodied that body.

Speaker 5 (01:36:16):
I didn't know he was like one thing to say,
like I want to act, but that nigga was good,
like he was good, So I was like, oh yeah,
like like like oh, this nigga is really a crackhead,
Like it isn't even visible no more.

Speaker 2 (01:36:31):
You like halle Berry and losing is saying now like
you just want to come back.

Speaker 5 (01:36:35):
Okay, another fact, but like artists that could really shine
because of the climate, talk to me, I love.

Speaker 2 (01:36:43):
I love a good connect somewhere though, and I don't
know where it is. I think it's timing.

Speaker 7 (01:36:50):
Connect is always the fact that niggas take his ship
and run with you understand what I'm saying, Like he's
not he's not big enough to establish it as as
my ship. Right, so if some bigger artist taking ship
and run with it, it's easily done because speaks to
like you.

Speaker 2 (01:37:08):
Know, I'll be honest.

Speaker 1 (01:37:11):
It's tray fires heads. But also.

Speaker 2 (01:37:17):
Was on was on tour together. They did the Roxy.
His set had under pressure, but it killed it.

Speaker 1 (01:37:23):
But but if we talked about to in terms of
problem in terms of geographic location, I think it's part
it's he's a West Coast bro. It takes a lot
b what well mids like, it takes a lot for
someone geographical.

Speaker 2 (01:37:40):
To harbor the entire East Coast album didn't.

Speaker 1 (01:37:45):
Yeah that it's a geographical thing where he has like
the phenomenal, and then Drake took his Baretts from him,
so you know, hairstyle, don't do that.

Speaker 2 (01:37:58):
That's your man, and you're admitting that he taking taking,
taking and takes.

Speaker 1 (01:38:01):
I like Smena so much.

Speaker 2 (01:38:03):
I love I love its fire. Listen who says who else?

Speaker 1 (01:38:10):
Who else?

Speaker 3 (01:38:10):
Who else?

Speaker 1 (01:38:11):
Makes it comeback in twenty twenty six?

Speaker 2 (01:38:13):
I don't I don't know. Let's go, let's go.

Speaker 3 (01:38:15):
Do y'all think? Do y'all think we get an album
at all?

Speaker 1 (01:38:19):
I want to ask about two women because we've been
talking about niggas this whole time. Do y'all think we
get an album at all? Or anything from Rihanna? And
do you think Carti B's four does numbers?

Speaker 2 (01:38:28):
Okay? The Rihanna ship isself, Cardi B.

Speaker 5 (01:38:32):
Cardi B tour has's you say, sales, elaborate on sales,
ship has sales.

Speaker 1 (01:38:41):
The Rihanna ship yourself? Okay, it's party music from her
party B is going on her first tour. How does
she pan out in terms of legends? There's been compared
to what is what happened with Cardi is?

Speaker 2 (01:38:50):
What is the collaboration? You're telling me it's just Cardi
going out solo.

Speaker 5 (01:38:55):
It can't just be Cardi. So to your point about
there's not being a hit record, who do you take that?
Makes that makes sense?

Speaker 2 (01:39:01):
That's what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (01:39:03):
Audience, put your ship on and I'm not sure they
can vibrate in your butt?

Speaker 2 (01:39:11):
Man like that? Man what you like that?

Speaker 1 (01:39:15):
He could take the butler off and make it y
But yeah, because you just said it back in your
butt on my side?

Speaker 2 (01:39:23):
Oh yo, Yeah, I'm sorry, y'all be.

Speaker 1 (01:39:29):
With man's rushing Jesus have.

Speaker 2 (01:39:32):
I'm total woman.

Speaker 1 (01:39:32):
Making vibrate on your clip. But okay, So to me, though,
it's easy. Who she tours with? Uh, don't you for sure?

Speaker 2 (01:39:41):
Hell no? Absolutely.

Speaker 5 (01:39:43):
If I'm I'm like what, Hell no, she's not gonna
be number two on Nobody no more. She's doing her
own ship now headlining. Now he tours with Meg. Yeah,
it'll be like DMX, Like you don't want to go
on after d M so then.

Speaker 2 (01:40:04):
You don't want that.

Speaker 1 (01:40:06):
Tours would make the stallion. And she tours with Unfortunately,
And I don't want say unfortunately, but that looks crazy,
No it doesn't.

Speaker 2 (01:40:14):
I think it looks crazy.

Speaker 1 (01:40:15):
I don't think it does.

Speaker 2 (01:40:16):
I think Cardi would have to do like and they
came out in a decade.

Speaker 5 (01:40:20):
And I've been putting out records for the past ten
years while you've been doing all.

Speaker 2 (01:40:23):
I'm gonna keep it well. Then I think it's I
think Cardi has lost the public from her behavior. Do
you think so?

Speaker 1 (01:40:33):
I think she she epitomizes a lot of women right now.

Speaker 2 (01:40:36):
But see that's the issue with artists now. They're doing
content the.

Speaker 1 (01:40:39):
Last two years. They got pregnant, got pregnant by a
nigga they knew in three months.

Speaker 3 (01:40:42):
So to me, relatable than than than ever.

Speaker 2 (01:40:47):
With what very I mean, non musically, non musically in
terms of I don't.

Speaker 1 (01:40:53):
Think she lost nobody. She got a good looking nigga
with millions. Yes, she got pregnant him with it three months.

Speaker 2 (01:40:58):
It's the fun I think. I think the beating sexual.

Speaker 1 (01:41:02):
It is.

Speaker 4 (01:41:03):
Then he put his tongue his man in the Ferrari.

Speaker 2 (01:41:08):
Ecstasy and you know what. On that note, I would
like to interview card.

Speaker 1 (01:41:14):
We're just gonna go ahead.

Speaker 2 (01:41:15):
I'm not in a room of man gonna sit here.

Speaker 1 (01:41:17):
I love Cardi, I think he does. I am interested
to see who she has on tour with her.

Speaker 2 (01:41:22):
However, that's a.

Speaker 1 (01:41:22):
Very we do see that Dojah Cat is on a
global tour right now with no openers, just her.

Speaker 2 (01:41:29):
But they kill background, but they're killing her.

Speaker 1 (01:41:31):
But they're killing her because she and her.

Speaker 2 (01:41:32):
Fans are like, but you come on stage, you guys
want But.

Speaker 1 (01:41:36):
What I'm saying, but niggas, they never have niggas, they never.

Speaker 2 (01:41:39):
Have eighties album. Like I care about that ship. That's crazy.

Speaker 1 (01:41:44):
No Dojah Cat slander, no Cardi slander.

Speaker 2 (01:41:46):
I think about the Weekend twenty twenty that.

Speaker 1 (01:41:49):
Nigga makes everyone want to cut his wrists.

Speaker 2 (01:41:52):
I don't gonna hold you. I never invested that Canadian ship.
Hold on, hold on either, But like I don't feel
like even know they're like don f except that I would.

Speaker 5 (01:42:02):
I would like more unique artists, though I would like
more artists who are outside. So for me, he's not
gonna be on this kind of level. But like I
want to see a nigga like Bruiser Wolf Bruis There
we go, There we go, we go, there, we go,
there we go. Talk to him, talk to him like, yeah,

(01:42:23):
they don't have got to Harry fraud shot to Harry.
They're gonna say they did until you can call a bluff.
They just know from hayten disupporting. They want to know
the wind chill factor, open it up, like yeah, like

(01:42:44):
that's what I put the rock in the rim.

Speaker 2 (01:42:46):
I guess, I guess I made shot the bruiser Wolf.

Speaker 5 (01:42:52):
Would the gods be it's God's be the bruiser Wolf
be ill like Cosby, Like that's that's unique uniqueness.

Speaker 2 (01:43:01):
That come on, man, he get Come on in side, man,
come on in side.

Speaker 1 (01:43:05):
I know I got it. Ship followed each other.

Speaker 2 (01:43:09):
I like this ship. Yeah, bruises will Bruther will pull up.
I don't know what that is. But if you crouded
that Nigga figured that out.

Speaker 5 (01:43:16):
Bro, if you took sugar free, sugar free in twenty
twenty six and like done like sugar free in twenty
twenty about it like a signifying monkey, Like he's on
that type.

Speaker 3 (01:43:27):
Like that's where you think music going in twenty twenty six.

Speaker 2 (01:43:30):
I think, yes, I think I think it's unique art.
It's unique artist.

Speaker 4 (01:43:34):
That's what.

Speaker 2 (01:43:35):
Yeah, young nigga, Marco plus, Marco plus is crazy. He's
a pro.

Speaker 5 (01:43:39):
It is crazy like unique artists and doing a unique thing.
That's where we're going.

Speaker 1 (01:43:44):
He looks unique. I really like.

Speaker 2 (01:43:48):
It's play ship and niggas alt even know how to
be cool no more. That's what they hated on him.

Speaker 1 (01:43:52):
No niggas is sad and long losers like Belly Gang
couldn't He's yeah, delegate cushion. We're gonna see that's twenty six.
We're gonna see him bias because like we grew up
with that nigga.

Speaker 2 (01:44:10):
I was like, I'll buy no little noise.

Speaker 1 (01:44:13):
I don't know, but I like this nigga.

Speaker 2 (01:44:14):
I say he actually is that he's that way that Yeah,
I like him. I like him well.

Speaker 1 (01:44:21):
And to be fair, he has aligned with a lot
of the people that I suk with here in Atlantic
as well. Like I like him.

Speaker 2 (01:44:28):
I like him anyway. Okay, so you just said it
right there. Music is in a good space. The fact
that we have in this conversation about new new niggas
great space. Love it.

Speaker 5 (01:44:38):
The nigga most said that in nineteen ninety Q oh sorry,
you know, if the people are good help, if people
are healthy, hip hop is healthy, the people are focused,
hip hop is focused.

Speaker 1 (01:44:49):
To be fair, what we just said everything about politics,
we are not none of those things. But I love
that we can enjoy him yeah, but like we're not
in a good space.

Speaker 7 (01:44:59):
Hip hop is right, anti government, it's supposed to be
niggas we're talking about.

Speaker 2 (01:45:05):
Are the niggas.

Speaker 5 (01:45:06):
That's like really like they're not going for the corporate dollar.
They going for like the love and the cultural all
your streaming and your billboard and we'll go funk about
none of that. Yeah, because they just humiliated every black.

Speaker 2 (01:45:20):
That was that was.

Speaker 1 (01:45:22):
That didn't walk out.

Speaker 2 (01:45:25):
When you turn your life into a zoo mm hmm,
people come stand at the plexic glass, right, mm hmm.

Speaker 1 (01:45:34):
And on that note, oh my god, all right, Cat Deoncea,
where can the people? Y'all?

Speaker 7 (01:45:43):
You can follow me and Big Cat at deontay dot
com on i G, Big Ice Cup, Cat on Ice Cup,
Cat Britten Eggs podcast on i G, on TikTok on YouTube,
and you on Sports.

Speaker 2 (01:45:59):
The Listening podcast on Patrie.

Speaker 1 (01:46:02):
But eight dollars, that's right, And y'all already know there's
a selective ignorance, And boy do we in with some
educated points but also a little bit of ignorance. And
I love that because we can all agree to disagree
on all the things that we see and are passionate about.
This was on Point Today. If you guys love everything
about joh I'm really excited. In twenty twenty six, y'all

(01:46:24):
will be catching him weekly right here on the Selective
Ignorance podcast, and then y'all will be introduced to his
own platform next year, and I'm really really excited about it.
And as always, I'm enjoyed by one half of my
super producers, Jason, y'all know is in Jersey, but we
have a king here. It would continue to join me
every week on Selective Ignorance, and as well, if y'all listen.

Speaker 2 (01:46:45):
To my other twenty twenty six watch you we do,
I listen to me that way.

Speaker 1 (01:46:50):
If you're in Atlanta, I am also every Saturday six
to eight on Hot one of seven nine period.

Speaker 2 (01:46:57):
You change, we change your your voting party. Yet you
said what you change? By the way, it's crazy.

Speaker 1 (01:47:07):
Lived in New York for thirteen years now living in Georgia,
but I'm still a registered voted for the state of Florida.

Speaker 2 (01:47:12):
So fuck you. I'm trying to make a real Have
you made enough money the morning get changey yet? Shut
the fuck up? Do you think they can do any.

Speaker 1 (01:47:27):
Or I have a great year? Enjoy it?

Speaker 2 (01:47:29):
As far as we got.

Speaker 1 (01:47:30):
Our Christmas episode next week, followed by our favorite and
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