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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is Mandy B. Welcome to Selective Ignorance, a production
of the BLACKPEC podcast Network and iHeartRadio. Welcome to a
bonus class assembly of Selective Ignorance. I'm your host, Mandy B.
Really excited because I'm joined actually live by my classmates
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We also talk in the discord, discuss what they think
about the episodes, what they enjoyed, what they didn't enjoy,
and you know why I like it. Over Here a
lot of them be agreeing with me, all oh my god,
I found my tribe. Anyways, I wanted to start this
episode off like we been doing a lot of the
newer episodes, where I lean into an ignorant moment I
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had of the week. Now, to me, this is a
valid conversation that needs to happen. But to others, I understand,
or they may judge me or feel offended, but remind yourselves.
If you feel offended, you gotta take that up with
your therapist or God, not me anyways. So me and
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my homegirl are going to that Domainic and Republic, not
for prostitutes, but for son. So we're going to the
dr this weekend. And this is our first time traveling
abroad together. This is our first time traveling together at all.
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This is our first time going to an island. And
I felt the need to have this conversation with her
because I understand that there's a dilemma amongst girls trips.
Not that they're broke, No, that's not the problem. Not
that they be wanting to fuck on the same guy, No,
that's not the problem either. Her being black is not
the problem. However, as a black girl going to an
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island and me kind of maybe leaning more exotic when
I travel, y'all will understand when I get there. We
walked the beatline the other day and I said, hey, girl,
before we go on this trip, I got questions, So
I said, let's start. I said, you said you're excited
to lay by the pool, but do you ten like,
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do you want to lay out in ten or do
we need to be in the shade, like because I
want to get dark. But do we have to be
on different sides of the pool when we go to
the pool? Because valid question? Right then I was like, okay,
you said the pool, but not the beach. That's another thing.
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Black girls laid by a pool all day? Or do
they want to go lay by the ocean? I don't know,
so I had to ask that. Then when we got
to the ocean, I said, bitch, we're talking about a
boat day. Do you get in the ocean?
Speaker 2 (03:13):
Like?
Speaker 1 (03:14):
I know there's a lot, you know what I mean?
I had to go step by step because, bitch, you
want to do a boat, but do you get in
the water? Got past that question? Last question I had
to ask her, Okay, if you get in the water, bitch,
do you snorkel?
Speaker 2 (03:34):
Like?
Speaker 1 (03:34):
Are we gonna be able to do the activities that
people do when they get into the ocean or are
you just gonna be there with the life jacket, the floaty,
the best the hair the you know, the hair guard that, like,
are we gonna be able to enjoy this island the
way I like to enjoy an island like a mermaid?
I'm a mermaid also half white and also from Florida. So, bitch,
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I my mama could have gave birth to me in
the ocean for all that matter. I like the water,
and so I had to go through and ask all
these questions because our people, all of them black men included,
don't be trying to get in the water, don't be
trying to really enjoy the beauty that islands normally offer.
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And so I had to go through the checklist. She
checked it all off. So I feel like, Okay, this
might be an okay trip now y'all already know, and
this may be the bad part that I did. Y'all.
I already booked a second vacation with her before going
on the first one. So I'm a little nervous because
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I may be coming back on this Goddamn Mike asking
how to back out of a trip if we don't
have fun on this trip, Like I already know. Why
did I do that? Like why as I'm asking her
the Black Girl travel checklist? Did all? And y'all want
to know the crazy part, bitch is another island. So
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I booked Kirasu for Christmas, and it's because I wanted
to go somewhere hot, she said, Mexico, I said, bitch,
Mexico be kind of cold. You know it's connected to
the States, Bitch, Is it is connected? Yeah, the border,
the border is connected, but it be cold.
Speaker 3 (05:30):
I went.
Speaker 1 (05:30):
If y'all know, I went to Mexico like two years
ago with Antinette. Bitch, it was cold. So even though
we were in swimsuits, I want y'all to know, I
had goosebumps and in no way, shape or form should
you have goosebumps and be in a bikini. It is like,
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what the hell? So hopefully she passes the vibe test
we have a great time in dr because then we're
going to you're a soul. And if we don't have
a great time, y'all, I'm gonna submit my own letter
and be like, how do I tell a bit that
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I if I did on a trip that I don't
want her to go on a trip no more? How
do I do this? So we'll talk about it. But
that was my ignorant not so ignorant, maybe offensive, I
don't give a fuck. Moment of the week. Would love
to know if any of y'all have any ignorant moments
of the week. And I'm gonna wait for someone to
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raise their hand. If not, however, the class has already
called on somebody prior to us getting on the record.
So I'm gonna three two one, Jojo, my darling, the
class has selected you to share an ignorant thought moment,
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anything that's happened that you're like, Damn, that was ignorant.
I know it.
Speaker 4 (06:58):
But here we are all right, you know the top
of my head. Oh okay, why are the handicap spots
close to the doors. They're in fucking chairs. You gotta walk,
they get to roll.
Speaker 1 (07:16):
Oohout a word? Why did I tell you had one?
Speaker 2 (07:21):
I told y'all to be fair.
Speaker 1 (07:25):
Here we go.
Speaker 3 (07:27):
To be fair.
Speaker 2 (07:29):
I had a temporary handicap thing handicapped permit when I
had surgery on my a c L. And I didn't
have a chair, but I did have to use like
an old lady walker, so I needed to be closed.
Speaker 1 (07:45):
Because okay, so then I'm not gonna lie. I'm not
gonna lie. I will align with Jojo. Then not handicaps.
Sticker showed them holes in a wheelchair, So maybe we
need a new handicap side like the ones in the wheelchair.
Y'all just you love me, But maybe we have a
new handicapped sick man that like has them on a
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crutch or something like that.
Speaker 4 (08:12):
Seaword, bring back the seaword crippled.
Speaker 1 (08:15):
There we go like, yeah, like crippled, the crippled like
temporary cripples who are used to walking. Sure, let's help
them out. You know, but you know what, Jojo, you
might be onto something. Also. I don't know if y'all
saw they are making everyone reapply for SNAP benefits because
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of them alleging the over use of fraudulent people on
SNAP benefits. You know what would fuck people up if
they had to reapply them handicapped stickers. Hold on, I
got another one. Them goddamn service dogs. Bruh them service animals, bro.
I think I have seen a bird with a service
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animal plan know the fuck that those are the most like,
I'm not gonna hold you it literally be in my group. Chat. Amen,
y'all know anybody to get me a handicapped sticker? Amen,
y'all know anybody who do the service animal animal stick
Those two right there are probably the most over whatever.
Oh it's not overused, but the scams that be scamming
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them be the ones.
Speaker 2 (09:29):
The only thing with that though, is like, I have
an ESA, so it's an emotional support animal, but I
can't take he can't do anything other than like provide companionship.
Speaker 5 (09:40):
Right.
Speaker 2 (09:40):
But I have a friend who is training her dog
and she has to go through certain like actual certifications
because her dog is able to sense when she's about
to like faint or have a seizure, and she's training
her to like get the medicine a seeing eye dog
obviously on a blind person.
Speaker 1 (09:59):
Like those may makes sense, But Connie, your emotional support
animal bitch, get a care bear well.
Speaker 2 (10:06):
Also, I never qualify for food stams. I wish I
had some support with these grocery.
Speaker 1 (10:11):
Bills, but I do not.
Speaker 2 (10:13):
I do not fit in that category. So that's why
I'm saying, like those people would not be able to
like automatically funnel into that.
Speaker 1 (10:20):
I'm not gonna lie. Connie, you're one of the people
I talk about emotional support animal bitch.
Speaker 2 (10:26):
Body is emotional supporting animal when you get home from
these long trips.
Speaker 1 (10:32):
No, it's crazy. Body is preparing me for an abusive relationship.
That is what if you own a cat. Bro The
way I be walking past him hoping he don't swipe
me is like maybe you're okay. Like it's like I
am in a physically an abusive relationship with a cat,
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mind you, but sometimes I don't want to be bothered
and he don't give a fuck and sit right on
my chest. Yeah, and then literally I'm I'm creating the
outline for the show and he's just looking at me,
and I know he about to jump and puse on
me on some bitch. If you don't feed me home like.
Speaker 2 (11:09):
I am in, that's your fault.
Speaker 1 (11:13):
I'm not my point, you see what I mean. I
am preparing myself like I am in the longest abusive
relationship I've ever endured in my life. And y'all know
I done cried. I done cried so many times. This
cat is a five year relationship that is making me
question why we choose to stay, Like why is he
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still here? But I love him? But bro like good man,
he's abusive. Bro Like. So she got out to all
the cat moms and dads because I just know that
you're enduring physical and emotional pain that one should not
have to endure. But here we are to k to
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take care of fucking Simone. Not Simone.
Speaker 3 (12:03):
What is it?
Speaker 1 (12:03):
Simba Nalla Mufasa, just like one of their cousins. That's
who we chose to bring into our home. I hate it.
I hate it. I hate it, but I love body.
But I love him so much, y'all. I had to
close the door because he would come in here and
get me from the back. That's the crazy thing. I
gotta close doors in my own home for privacy. This
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is ghetto. This is ghetto. But I do love him.
I do love him. All right, we are going to
do a different double down or take it back now
this one. I called out journalism Jason for dropping the
ball on us not talking about this on a live episode,
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But Mike Epps chose to bring up his thoughts on
the clip that he saw of ours talking about highest
to Lois, and it led me to a question. So here,
y'all can approve me. Hold me, hold on, I'm gonna
start it over. It's about a minute long, want you
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to want you to listen to it because there's a
talking point that I have and I want to ask y'all,
so you still feel like you're proving you're working improve
things to people in your career at this point?
Speaker 5 (13:20):
Yeah, because you know, I was just I was just
listening to everybody talk about how bad of a movie
that was that Denzel.
Speaker 1 (13:28):
And Spike Lee just did He's had Rocket.
Speaker 3 (13:32):
That's great.
Speaker 5 (13:33):
They were just talking about, Yeah, it wasn't a great movie,
and I'm like, damn literally when they were talking about it,
it damned that made you forget it that it was like, man,
Denzel was in that movie, Like, you know, it wasn't
a great movie. You damned never forgot about everything he
did because you just focusing on the fact that it
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wasn't a good movie, you know what I mean. So
one bad, one miss stake in our culture can cause
you can cause people to not fuck with you, which
is weird as hell to me.
Speaker 3 (14:08):
I don't get it. But what you said is true
to oh gay, they catch you amnesia. But what you
said is true.
Speaker 2 (14:13):
We pushed, we'll push the narrative.
Speaker 3 (14:15):
Yeah, you know what I'm saying. We'll go we'll go
so hard against it, against.
Speaker 1 (14:19):
Each Now, let's be very clear, it is a bad
fucking movie. And I'm doubling the fuck down As someone
who if you go through every question, if I've ever
been asked who I would want to sit with dad
or live at a table Denzel is always one of
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them niggas, so let's be very clear. I also was
even more heartbroken to publicly express my dislike for this
film only because Denzel was in it. If Denzel wasn't
in and I probably wouldn't even watch this bullshit. I
watched this movie. It's a collaboration between Denzel and Spike Lee.
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And here's the thing. What I got from him saying
that is not that we erased everything that he did,
but there's people within our culture that, for whatever reason,
they become above critique and that doesn't make sense. So
for me, the fact that we talked about the scoring,
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we talked about the writing, we talked about the supporting actors,
we talked about the way Spike Lee normally shoots his
films and what didn't resonate. We talked about a lot
of things outside of what was presented in that clip, right,
And he's literally like, damn, but Denzel was in it.
Why would y'all talk about about this film when Denzel
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was in it? It makes you like you forgot everything
great Denzel did, And I'm just like, Wow, there are
certain people that within our culture, if you if you
just critique something, they that they do. Now you're erasing
their entire discography.
Speaker 2 (16:10):
No.
Speaker 1 (16:11):
Like, So I'm having this conversation with with Jason and
a King and then Jah and I'm like, damn, you
know who else you're not allowed to fucking critique? Don't
care with me Beyonce, Like Beyonce is not allowed to
be critiqued for anything. Like if Beyonce's name is in
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them Epstein files, we can't say shit, we can't. Like
there's certain people that if you go to critiquing them,
you're immediately a hater. You immediately just want to not
like them, you immediately, And it's just like, bro, no
one is above critique. No one is above being discussed
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in a way that you're not able to say they
put something out that you dislike, another thing that immediately
came to mind. Y'all know, I stan J Cole four
Your Eyes Only was by Suit. I hated it, probably
his worst album. The only song I liked in that
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was the Neighbors Think I'm Selling Doors? You know that's it.
The rest of the goddamn project sucks and it hurt
me to my core. Y'all might have shed a thug
tear when I listened to that bullshit and was like, God, damn,
I can't even defend his shit. That's how I felt
as I completed my third try watching fucking Highest Lowest.
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It hurt me to my core that I was gonna
have to say anything bad publicly about Denzel because I
don't want to. I'm biased, But Bro, you can have
your biases and publicly or within a group of people
be able to say, Yo, I do like this person.
I fuck with everything else he's put out. But this
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wasn't it. And I don't understand why even Mike EPs
and his explanation took it as damn, people really don't
like this movie. It was shitting on it, but they
forgot everything that Denzel did. Know the fuck I did,
bitch training day right on my wall. Bitch, I just
saw that nigga act like he from Brownsville and Gladiator. Okay,
I go and watch everything. I saw him be the
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same person, like three times. What is a Man on Fire?
He has three movies that, Bro, it's all the same.
And hold on, hold on, we gotta talk Connie. You laughing,
but I know, y'all inside man Man on Fire, and
there's one more, y'all. We watched the Zelle do the
same movie three times. It wasn't John Q. It wasn't
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John Q. John Q was a different one that nigga
cared about his son and held up the goddamn hospital. Okay,
so it wasn't John Q, but inside Man and for
sure a man on fire. Same movie, y'all look it up. Basically,
he fall in love with like a little light skinn
exotic bitch. One was sonnihilate than the other one I
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can't remember, but basically he's like a cop for trying
to find Basically, he getting played by bitches in both.
If I'm not mistaken, ain he's sitting here trying to
save a bitch that's actually setting him up type shit.
But any who, I love the man. It might be equalizing,
it might be equalizer. Yes, even mandesk annihilated and they
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get this. They cast the same type of bitch. And
then Gazelle's there with his old ass with you know,
the deep voice, and somehow midway through the movie he
gets fine enough to where now he fucking but this
bitch is playing him, But he fall in love. But
he's also like that nigga, you know what I mean. Anyway, yes,
y'all know what I'm talking about. Connie, go ahead, girl, Okay.
Speaker 2 (19:55):
So everything that you're talking about now is similar to
what's being talked about with the Ryan Murphy show. All'spare
with Kim Kardashian.
Speaker 1 (20:04):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (20:05):
So I've watched a lot of the American Horror Story
and even other Ryan Murphy stuff that isn't American Horror Story.
Hollywood was really good. Grotesque Y with niecy Nash was
really good.
Speaker 1 (20:17):
He also did for y'all because I just saw niecy
Nash interview and speak about Ryan Murphy. He also was
responsible for the Dahmer series with Mons and Brothers.
Speaker 2 (20:28):
Yeah, yees, yeah, yeah. So I've loved a lot of
his writing. This to me and this is like what
I said in my TikTok review. I was like, this
feels like Chad Gpt wrote it and he just went
in and made some edits. Sarah Paulson is barely in
the show. She has maybe like two scenes so far
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in every episode that I saw, and I watched the
first three because they released it in bundles. And when
you compare Kim, who's coming from reality TV, she's not
a quote quote actress, right, she didn't go through years
of theater training or whatever.
Speaker 1 (21:04):
Whatever law school.
Speaker 2 (21:06):
But here we are, right and she's working on passing
the bar. So I'm like, maybe takes some more acting
classes and maybe you can deliver these lines, because to me,
it just feels like Ryan Murphy does a lot of camp.
But it like the scenes where she's supposed to be
angry because she just found out that her husband is
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leaving her because he has a sex edition. She's laying
on the couch in like a white fur with the
most like blanket look on her face, and I'm like, girl,
you're not assoshiated, disassociating. You just have too much bottops
going on.
Speaker 1 (21:40):
Now here's the kim k is never above critique, especially
because she enters these feels. She's new too, right, So
would you say, though, that Ryan Murphy who.
Speaker 2 (21:54):
Is That's who? That's who I'm upset about. Okay, I'm
not worried I can't, but his writing kind of sucked
to she can't deliver something that has too much feeling
in it and a lot of like even Dustin and
a few folks that other pods that talked about it,
and like in the TikTok videos, that I've seen there,
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Like the writing just feels lazy. They're like it's given
like super plain and Nisi is like really acting and
I'm like she's bringing it, but there isn't the meat
and the substance isn't matching her energy because the writing sucks.
Speaker 1 (22:30):
I'm curious when Kim being the center right, if he
dumbed it down for Kim.
Speaker 2 (22:37):
That would be a shame because you literally have Naomi
Watt's Nisi, Nash Tianna Taylor, Sarah Paulson, Sarah Paulvin has
been in like damn near every single thing that he's
ever done. Nissi he's been working on obviously with the
Dahmer series, and then she was also in her own
show with him, Grotesque Ri. She was also fan fabulous
in that. So if he dumbed down anything to like
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Appiace Cam, it's doing a disservice to the rest of
the cast because the premise of the show is pretty interesting,
but it's just certain scenes. I'm just like, this is
a show I can have on in the background. This
isn't something that I'm like stuck on the couch watching
and I gotta pay.
Speaker 1 (23:17):
Here's my thing, and maybe it's because Ryan Murphy has
released such high quality content. In comparison, I love Beauty
and Black, it's Tyler Perry. Tyler Perry has walked through
the mud of critique to where I don't think he
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give a fuck no more. But it's also you go
into a Tyler Perry film ready to joke at the
wigs and the writing, and maybe just with Ryan Murphy,
you don't write. And so even where I think also,
and that's maybe why Mike Epps feels weird to hear
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a critique about Denzel, because I would like to believe
that Denzel only does things that he truly believes are
good shit.
Speaker 2 (24:07):
Yeah, and so he's in his career where he's only
doing the roles that he wants to do.
Speaker 1 (24:11):
Well allegedly he doing allegedly. And that's where I ain't
even gonna hold you. Ryan Murphy done did this new
show after doing such great stuff to me, Denzel playing
in my motherfucking face, Denzel is now saying, I am
who I am. I'm gonna do whatever the fuck I
want to do and give y'all whatever bullshit and y'all
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better take it from me, because I wouldn't have cared
to see that film. Had Denzel not been in it,
I wouldn't have spent the five hundred dollars to go
see Othello, had he and my favorite white boy, Jake
Jillenhall not been in it. Like so there, it's also
even Gladiator.
Speaker 2 (24:48):
I saw a Gladiator.
Speaker 1 (24:49):
I he nigga and I said it before Denzel let
me even give a fuck. Dizzel didn't care to learn
the god damn Roman accent. He said, you getting Brownsville
out here in Rome in the Thesbian times. It's like
he don't even care to Like it's like, oh, you're
not even acting no more. Denzel said, i'mnna show up
as Denzel in every role, and because I'm Denzel, I'm
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gonna get it. And so for me too, it's just
like as a fan, it's a slap in the face.
It reminds me of kind of and y'all know, I
stand her. Don't want to say nothing bad, but it's
what I'm seeing the responses currently for Doja Cat and
her new tour either, not only that it's not about
her performance as much as it's like, so we get
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no outfit changes, we get no dancers. Bro we've been
rocking with you, We've seen the evolution of you as
an artist, and you're not continuing on with your artistry.
You're just giving us whatever because you know we support you.
And that's a slap in the face as a fan.
And so yeah, miss Nuban is in the comment saying
he already said he only has a few more movies, right,
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and so now I think he genuinely even wants to
do shit that is bare minima.
Speaker 2 (25:58):
Yeah, this is when he should doing stuff that's like fun. Hey, Barry,
Meryl Streep is coming back on Devilware's product. She's never
not delivered, But I also don't think that she would
do it if it wasn't on point. Also, the og
fans of devil Wars product, we're not watching that shit
if her and Anne Hathaway aren't in it.
Speaker 1 (26:17):
You want to know what's funny about you saying that
this is all a recession indicator. These niggas can't say no.
They got bills to pay and they taking whatever come
across their motherfucking table.
Speaker 2 (26:30):
Because Bill So, I just went to that point. I
just went to see the new Julia Roberts movie. It's
called After the Hunt, I saw this maybe in October.
I literally turned on Amazon today and it's already like
on streaming, and this was maybe like it's only been
out for like a month. So to your point, it's
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like the movies are coming out. Some movies are in
the theater for literally eight weeks and then booms straight
to streaming.
Speaker 1 (27:00):
But to be fair, to be fair, think about this,
if a nigga took eight weeks to respond, would you
like that nigga anymore?
Speaker 2 (27:09):
No?
Speaker 1 (27:10):
So if a movie has been in the theater eight
weeks and bitch, you ain't make no time and eight
weeks to go see this movie, bitch, we put it
on the stream and you'll see it when you see it,
like you weren't that interested. I'm actually not mad at that.
I'm not mad at them not keeping movies in the
theater too long, because let's rotate and get some new
shit in there for the moviegoers.
Speaker 2 (27:29):
Plus, to your point, it's expensive to go to the movies.
It was like fifteen fight.
Speaker 1 (27:34):
You gotta find the five dollar tuesdays. Gare you just
gotta do matinee and shit like that?
Speaker 2 (27:37):
I do the Mad Night. But I'm saying, if you're
looking at if this was a date or something like that,
it adds up. Even if you're going solo, it could
still add up.
Speaker 1 (27:46):
By the way, you're ready, you ready? If you're over thirty,
the movies is only for yourself, bitch. Niggas should not
be taken women on movie dates if they are thirty plus.
We are grown. Needs to have a conversation. Movie dates
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are for teenagers. But this is not an ignorant Take
you ignorant as hell if you over thirty inviting me
on a movie date.
Speaker 2 (28:17):
Within the first they have bars and restaurants and movie
theaters have a full ball theater I go to does
an entire dinner's great?
Speaker 1 (28:30):
So great? That means you're so socially awkward that you
want to eat and not talk. You socially awkward, nigga.
Speaker 2 (28:37):
I go to dinner by myself too.
Speaker 1 (28:39):
Okay, ladies, if a man takes you on a date
to the movies, he's over thirty, Ladies, I need you
to check that rear view mirror because it should have
a blue hanging down sticker with someone in a wheelchair.
Speaker 2 (28:55):
So what if what if I want to see the movie.
Speaker 3 (28:57):
Her left tain is very empty. That's all I'm saying
her left hand is very we want to see the movie.
Speaker 1 (29:05):
Bruh, if you really want to see the movie, My point, ebony,
you take your ass to the movie. You want to
go see the movie.
Speaker 3 (29:12):
So you rather be you rather go to a restaurant.
You're rather to go to coffee shop and have nothing
necessarily natural to talk about, where you can go to
a movie and have something to talk about right after.
Speaker 2 (29:27):
That.
Speaker 1 (29:27):
No, if you also can't naturally talk to me, now
come on.
Speaker 3 (29:31):
No, no, no, we're not gonna do that. We're not
gonna do that. We are not gonna do that. Everybody
needs a little conversation started, and nothing like a good movie.
I'm not saying take it to a bad movie. I'm
not saying take it to a trash movie, but a
conversation starter.
Speaker 1 (29:44):
So what made you swipe right? Let's start there? What
the fuck do you mean?
Speaker 3 (29:49):
Why swiper?
Speaker 2 (29:51):
How?
Speaker 1 (29:51):
Also, these people meeting each other.
Speaker 3 (29:53):
We tripe right because because they're attractive.
Speaker 6 (29:56):
But that doesn't that doesn't dictate if I'm still gonna
like you.
Speaker 1 (30:00):
Point is so as a grown ass man trying to
get to know someone, the fact that you need a
movie to help you have something to talk about to
a stranger that you know nothing about says enough about
you than me.
Speaker 3 (30:11):
What does they say about you? What does it say?
Speaker 1 (30:13):
It means that as the man, you're not really interested
what it I'm telling you.
Speaker 3 (30:19):
Now, I'm ignorant out So why am I not interested?
Draw the line? Draw the dot in line from that.
I'm taking you out, I'm picking the place, I'm possibly
driving you, I'm paying for the movie. I'm wanting to
take you to dinner after and have a conversation. So
which part of me is disconnected on me trying to
get to know you?
Speaker 1 (30:39):
First off, if you don't know how to have a
conversation with me, you're probably only doing all of that
so you can get some kuchi, cause niggas think if
you do a little some little.
Speaker 2 (30:48):
Wait, hondy question, Mandy, are you saying not to this
on a first date or just period across the board?
Speaker 7 (30:53):
Now?
Speaker 1 (30:53):
Movie days? Within the first three dates?
Speaker 2 (30:56):
Okay, work, I get that if you are with.
Speaker 1 (30:59):
A partner and y'all been already talking, let's do a
movie date because cool. But within the first three dates,
if you are the age of thirty years old, a
movie date means that this nigga is on the spectrum,
and you should not.
Speaker 3 (31:13):
You should run all right, ladies with her. I know
where I'm at. I just need to agree with her
all night. I might say, Mandy's right, so I know
how to move out here in these streets, because that
sounds crazy to me.
Speaker 2 (31:26):
No, he doesn't. She said opinions that's wrong because it's
different than mine. Then let's argue.
Speaker 1 (31:33):
So you joined right on time, you joined on. That's
what we're doing this episode. Like I want people to
disagree with me. I'm gonna respect you with your opinion,
but I'm also gonna stay he Any lady listening to
Barry take you to the movies, bitch roit like you
know what I mean? Like they can accept it. I'm
just telling you what I'm not gonna do.
Speaker 3 (31:52):
And I don't think no movie and no general admission
to a concert. I know you got a few more.
You have to text you. You gotta call and reinvite
you to the same date every twenty four hours to
make sure.
Speaker 1 (32:07):
Wait a second, Okay, Barry, pause right there?
Speaker 3 (32:12):
What we do there?
Speaker 1 (32:14):
Pause right there? Only because we haven't of course, I
don't know if y'all know. Weisey and I have been
recorded since October all the way through mid January. Okay,
so all these topics that I've been like, ooh, this
is the ship we should bring up, which we ain't
really been recorded. Maybe we'll talk about it on the
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town hall. But I do want to talk to you
Barry and you Trev and you Tray and you Maurice
in terms of setting up a date. Why is the issue? Why? No,
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Because what's been happening online For those of you who
may not live online like me, I'm there rent free.
There is a trend happening where women are going on
live or going on TikTok or going on their stories
expressing how a man set up a date, gave the
time and date, but didn't follow up to confirm until
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like a couple hours before, and they're like, well, yeah,
I ain't hear from you. I made other plans. The
double confirm it is fucking necessary.
Speaker 6 (33:26):
It's not necessary if we already made an arrangements.
Speaker 3 (33:31):
We made plans, yes, we maday.
Speaker 1 (33:36):
Hey guys, we're potting. Don't talk over each other. Please,
let's love one person speak at a time. Told y'all,
this is harder than y'all bitches. Thoughts see please one
at a time. Soup, then burry, go ahead soup.
Speaker 6 (33:48):
You know I experienced that sing bullshit. Well like your lady, Lady,
I said, Monday, were hanging out, we kicking it.
Speaker 3 (33:58):
Sunday comes, No, was it was Monday? I head up
Sunday Sunday comes like yo, hitting you up, making sure the.
Speaker 6 (34:07):
Bubba blah, whatever the case may be. Oh, I totally forgot,
et cetera.
Speaker 3 (34:10):
Excep.
Speaker 6 (34:11):
Now she's mad. You can't be mad.
Speaker 1 (34:14):
No, that's you're You're talking about something different, interesting ship.
Now I'm talking about the women who are saying and
sed dates with them. They don't really hear from them
until maybe a couple hours before, no text, the morning of,
no text, the night before, am I outlook to I'll
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here you go two or three hours before, like ao,
I'm still seeing you. No, nigga, I haven't heard from
you in the last twenty four hours. I made other plans.
Speaker 3 (34:48):
Come on, ladies, y'all gonna give her that one too.
Speaker 1 (34:51):
I I just want to make sure.
Speaker 3 (34:54):
I don't want to.
Speaker 1 (34:54):
I'm gonna give many that one. I'm giving her that.
Speaker 3 (34:58):
Today's Thursday. I'm on the phone with you. I'm on
the zoom with dress say, hey, got this thing Saturday.
You want to go? I got you, Yeah, I want
to go. That is confirmation, but that's confirmation.
Speaker 1 (35:12):
Hear me out there.
Speaker 3 (35:13):
Friday, and again I don't firm on Thursday.
Speaker 1 (35:18):
No, Barry, we talk on Thursday night. Here's a scenario. Barry,
we talk on Thursday night. You invite me to this
shindig that you have going on. Right, you invite me
Thursday night. I'm excited. I'm like, yeah, I'm down, let's go. Friday.
I don't hear from you at all. The event is
seven o'clock on Saturday. You hit me at five o'clock Saturday,
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two hours before. Nah, br I ain't hear from you
in the last day and a half. You didn't hit
me this morning to confirm, Bro, I made other plans
because I ain't hear from you. You thought I was
supposed to just be Wait.
Speaker 3 (35:53):
Wait, this same Thanksgiving and I'm gutting you out for
New Year's Eve. This is Thursday, and I'm let's do
something on Saturday. What are we talking about?
Speaker 1 (36:04):
And then I don't hear from you till two hours
before were supposed to link because you could not hit
me between Thursday and the event.
Speaker 3 (36:13):
I think some of these people are over exaggerated it.
Speaker 1 (36:15):
Oh this three happens, y'all.
Speaker 3 (36:18):
No, I don't believe it. I don't believe that. What
is what is? See somebody typing in the chat? I'm sorry,
I'm not looking at it, but I see it popping up?
What is? What is it? A three level approach? I mean, Connie,
ask the confirm and the triple confirm, and then the
show up and then the chat.
Speaker 1 (36:36):
There's a there's accepting the date, and then there's confirming
the date. So Connie, there, you go down all the
time listening. Okay, y'all got a lot of talk. Go ahead, Connie.
Speaker 2 (36:50):
I put things in my calendar because a bitual forhe it,
So I put it in the Google calendar. Dinner at
five at blah blah blah place. If I what I
do across the board with friends or romantics. Hey, we're
still on for seven o'clock tomorrow night at blah blah blah.
(37:11):
Oh can we do six at such and such place? Great?
It gets updated on my calendar, and now I'm gonna
go and meet you there at six at that place.
But you saying, hey, do you want to go to
this thing Saturday night. You tell me on Thursday, I'm
gonna put it on my calendar. Hey, yeah, that's good.
I do expect to have some sort of communication at
least the day before or early the morning.
Speaker 1 (37:32):
Up the morning.
Speaker 6 (37:33):
I got a question for y'all. Okay, I got a
question for y'all. We're going on vacation together, right, we
both booked the flight. Do I need to confirm with
you the day before the flight then to say, hey,
we're still going on this flight now, but you need
to confirm.
Speaker 1 (37:50):
That hotel room is paid for a niggas.
Speaker 2 (37:52):
Right flight through everything, I'm gonna show up to the airport.
This assumption is if I'm dating Soup. So if you
and I were dating, I'm gonna assume I'm already at
your house and we're getting up in the morning and
going to the airport. If I'm meeting up with a
group of homegirls, Hey, y'all, it's five o'clock. My flight
leaves at seven, I'm all my way to the airport.
I'm communicating so that you know where I'm at in
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this process. If we're going on a date again, I
don't need you to reconfirm our vacation plans. But I
need you to confirm. Yeah, bitch, I'm still trying to
see you Saturday night at seven.
Speaker 3 (38:25):
Why what's the difference in those two scenarios, Because.
Speaker 2 (38:28):
People ghost, people flake? You might have all My homeboy
had the ticket and he gave me to his sister,
and I don't have the tickets. But I still want
to see you as seven.
Speaker 1 (38:37):
Cool.
Speaker 2 (38:38):
We don't have to go to the event.
Speaker 3 (38:39):
We can see the trauma response. My bad.
Speaker 1 (38:41):
I didn't realize what it was response.
Speaker 3 (38:44):
Then ghosted a few times, and now now you need
like a string around.
Speaker 2 (38:49):
I'm an old bitch and I ain't got time to waste.
I'd rather be at home with my dog. So if
you are going to take me on this date I needed,
I need you to confirm that Google calendar invitation. Otherwise
I'm gonna go.
Speaker 3 (38:59):
Do some What are you doing when I ask you?
When you say yes, and I say.
Speaker 2 (39:04):
Cool, putting in my calendar?
Speaker 3 (39:06):
But what is that? What is that though?
Speaker 2 (39:08):
That's walking off the time, that's letting me not forget
that I got something to do at seven o'clock because
guess what a bitch is bald? But I might have
to go get a haircut. I still gotta take a shower,
I still gotta get ready, I still got to get
me outfit.
Speaker 1 (39:21):
Yeah, you know what it is. It's the new school
age of I'm a pencil You in.
Speaker 3 (39:27):
We that are you saying that I asked you I
buy two tickets because you said yes, I buy two
tickets for Saturday. I assume that you were really just
saying I may go.
Speaker 1 (39:39):
I ain't gonna hold you. I don't know unless you
send me that receipt. I don't even believe. All Right,
y'all muting up everyone to go on to the next topic.
All Right, we're getting into this is America, and because
of where we're at, and because I want to get
into some other stuff, I'm gonna do the fun one year,
(40:02):
because y'all, I'll really be talking about some real shit.
But let's get petty with it. Why not allegedly in America?
Not sure if you know you can now sue women
for stealing your partner. Let me get into here. So
a North Carolina TikTok influencer Brenna Canard will now have
(40:27):
to pay up after her current husband's ex wife sued
her for alleged alienation. Of affection. So Tim Montague's ex wife, Akira,
brought the lawsuit to civil court and claimed that the
alleged affair between her and her now ex husband and
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the influencer caused her mental anguish, damage to her health,
and deprived her two children of a two parent household.
The report the reported affair took place in the former
couple's home and on the TikTokers social media. In the end,
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Tim left his marriage and went with the TikToker to
be in a relationship whom he now is married to. Ultimately,
the jury found the TikToker liable for criminal conversation. Bitch,
criminal conversation. This is America, y'all. The jury found her
liable for criminal conversation and alienation of affection. It's noted
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that in the state of North Carolina, the alienation of
affection law allows a spouse to sue the person they
blame for interfering with their marriage. Again, she has been
ordered to pay one point seven five million duellers. Now
(41:55):
whether she has it or not, not sure, but also
them TikTokers be making hell of money. This is interested
interesting to me because I always think it's interesting to
sue or blame in this case, talk about sue to
blame the other woman for your failed marriage. I'm confusings
(42:17):
why she's not suing her husband if that was the case,
because how was there an interference of a home? How
did your home get broken if there wasn't cracks in
the foundation. And so y'all already know. I actually think
side chicks mostly help marriages, they don't destroy them. And
(42:40):
very few times do married men leave their wives for
the side chick. Ebony's shaking her hand, Barry never shakes
his head in agreeance. But this was interesting because I said, Wow,
in this Western fucking societ where monogamy is really pushed
(43:04):
on us because of the Christian Bible, it's really interesting
that nowhere else in the globe really leans this heavy
into this idea of monogamy as much as we do here.
But also, you cheating in a married person's house. So
that's I guess the other addition to this. While they
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were still married, the TikTok influencer flaunted her new relationship
with this married man online. I think he just wanted
some of these TikTok checks. I ain't even gonna hold you.
He probably a bum that's like, ooh, bitch, got me one.
That's just my thoughts on this. I just found it
really interesting that you could suit for this, and I
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do want to look and see if there's any other
states across the country where alienation whatever is a thing.
Here's the other thing that I find be completely hilarious
when like civil suits go to court and they got
to pay this money. That's like, bitch, they never gonna
see that money in their life. So you never gonna
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see that money in your life. Like, bro, one point
seventy five million dollars, this woman has to pay you,
Where's she gonna get that? That's right?
Speaker 2 (44:21):
So so if she ends up, if she ends up
being financially strained by this dude leaving.
Speaker 1 (44:28):
So in the end, in the end, the white, the
ex white wins.
Speaker 2 (44:33):
This is the TikToker, the one that has to pay right. Yes, Okay,
she couldn't.
Speaker 1 (44:40):
She could You think she could be making that much money?
Speaker 2 (44:43):
I mean it depends on how many followers and you
know all that. But she could end up filing for
bankruptcy and saying I don't have that.
Speaker 1 (44:53):
It's it's tricky because didn't Tasha Kay also filed for bankruptcy,
but somehow still O's CARDI b that money too, Like, yeah,
I don't think after I think, yeah, I don't think
bankruptcy saves people from owing people for legal matters. It
can remove like.
Speaker 2 (45:09):
Certain it'll I think it'll well, I think it'll. What
it'll do is it'll freeze it, so it'll it'll like
stop the interest and all that from like a crewing potentially,
But if it's a suit, it probably just pushes it
until her until her bankruptcy is cleared in the courts.
Speaker 1 (45:28):
By the way, I want to just say, trev the
way I read your comment, at first, my mind is
clearly fucked up, Trevor. In the comments I heard TikTokers,
TikTokers don't make money if they ain't selling something. I
immediately thought pussy, and I was about to be like, damn, nigga,
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you think people can't make money when I sell a pussy,
But I forgot there's a whole TikTok shop, so I
forgot this product sold. But I immediately was like, damn,
you think only the only fans, bitch just make it money.
I did. I immediately want to judge you. I felt
that that was interesting I do because we have some
time too. I wanted to talk about where we're at
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currently with the big beautiful bill that continues to wreak
havoc on this country. The Department of Education recently proposed
to remove graduate nursing and other health programs from the
professional degree list. Basically, the nursing programs that are at
(46:34):
risk to be removed include physician assistants that's PAS, nurse practitioners,
physical therapists, and audiology programs. They're all looking to be
excluded in the list of in professional degrees. And basically
what this does, let me break it down what it
(46:54):
does is and how many people are impacts. It's about
to almost three hundred thousand students in nursing programs. Essentially,
these professional programs allow you to be ed eligible for
about two hundred thousand dollars in funding to help you
pay for schooling. With these being removed off of this
(47:15):
professional degree list, essentially, what it's going to do is
going to make it less affordable for people who do
not qualify to get these loans or to be able
to take the classes, which then in fact will make
already our strained healthcare system have even a larger shortage
in nurses, which is also crazy that this is in
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the big beautiful bill, consider that these are all essential workers.
We just saw the importance of all of these jobs,
all of these roles literally less than five years ago
when we went through the pandemic. And so these are also,
let's be very clear, roles that cannot be automated. AI
can't come in and take over these jobs. These are
(47:57):
jobs where it takes a human to be there to
serve other human beings. And so it's really scary that
he's looking to make our healthcare system, which is already
a piece of shit, potentially even more damning because it's
going to make people not be able to afford to
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go to school to get these degrees. I did want
to know if this impacts anyone. I do also want
to share my mom currently is in school to get
going to be a registered nurse, and even that it's
taking all of that away. So it says this affects
hundreds of thousands of students. More than two hundred and
sixty thousand are currently enrolled in Bachelor of Science and
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Nursing which are BSN programs, and around forty two thousand
ar road and associate degree in nursing programs. Of course,
this would restrict access to the higher loan limits that
allows them to continue their needed continued education. Mind you,
let's not even talk about school. Do y'all know these
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nurses don't get plaid paid for clinicals, So there's also
a portion of their schooling where they have to work
and be in hospitals for thousands of hours unpaid, in
order to also become registered in this in this career.
So the clinicals not being paid, these students not being
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able to take out loans to go to these programs,
it's unfortunate. I want y'all to look it up. I
want y'all to also at this point, we may need
to start a new book club. Guys, and y'all know
what book we need to read, Project twenty twenty five. Bitch,
let's read it together because it's literally what the fuck
we're seeing happening right in front of us, Like the
(49:46):
fucking book that they said with science fiction. Guess what, bitch,
ain't nothing fake about that? Hole?
Speaker 2 (49:53):
I cleared, I have a I found a tracker and
I shared it on the Around the Way discord. But
it's a tracker that shows everything that's like bullet pointed
per category and stuff in Project twenty twenty five and
where they are in terms of like a progress completion
or the bills and laws or executive orders that have
been executed that tackled that particular thing that was pretend.
Speaker 1 (50:17):
Bro Snap benefits. I think they said was on page
ten broh like deducting people from receiving snap benefits. That's
in the goddamn bill. Like so it's just it's really
interesting seeing what's or not in the bill, but it's
in that Project twenty twenty five handbook that Trump said
he knew nothing of yet his big beautiful bill and
(50:39):
everything he's trying to pass is pretty much outlined in there.
And so maybe, you know, Q one over the holidays,
which we got a whole other year till midterms, maybe
we should, you know, dive into that book and kind
of educate ourselves on where this may be going. By
the way, I do want to let y'all know because
we are talking about it on the pod. No spoiler alerts,
(51:01):
but I would love to maybe next month dive deep
in with our tenfoil hats. I would love y'all to
watch Pluribus on Apple TV. It is by Vince Gilligan,
who is the creator of Breaking Bad and of Better
Call Saul, and it dives into what the idea of
(51:26):
a virus apocalypse looks like without us turning into actual
flesh eating zombies, but ones that are impacted neurologically, and
it's just really good. Barry would love you to check
that out to hear your thoughts on it. It pretty
much leans into discussing what we need in terms of
defining humanity and if in world peace, if you take
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away suffering, if you take away choice, if you take
away all these things and everyone has the same goal
and everyone is happy, if that's a life that is
worth living, and it's really really fucking good. It's also
interesting is the first episode they're swabbing themselves and putting
the virus out even further, so it's really it ties
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in a lot regarding AI, what things are being taken
away from us, what things we're keeping, and it's just
really good if y'all can get into that now and
celebrities say the darnest things, y'all. Summer Walker has already
had to come after that. Selena Powell bitch for saying
that they sing about the same man. Here's the thing, Boruh,
(52:34):
these bitches will embarrass you just as much as these niggas,
But it really beat these niggas. Fault y'all. Blame the
men every chance you can. What Barry, Yes, I said
it blame the men. They know what they're doing. Anyways,
this was an interesting take that Summer Walker brought to
her Instagram. And I want to know your thoughts, ladies
and gentlemen, Somemr. Walker said, I see why men don't
(52:58):
like real bitches. I'm I mean, why step up when
there's a loser ass bitch that'll accept you for the
piece of shit you really are. I truly understand now,
pot calling the kettle black. I love Summer Walker. However,
we saw you think that London on the track was
(53:22):
gonna be a better baby daddy to you than he
was to the other three baby mamas. So there's a
thing about right message wrong messenger and Meech was not
helping his cousin take them groceries in the house like
(53:42):
to find out that you got cheated on by a
ring camera is just crazy. And so the fact that
Summer has time and time again proven that she's the
bitch that likes these loser ass dusty niggas. What very
fixed your face? I'm sorry, but I don't want to
(54:04):
hear from a woman who has three kids by two
baby daddies, them been with multiple niggas who'd done nothing
but embarrass you. I don't think I've ever visibly seen
Summer Walker be loved or truly taken care of by
any of the men that she's publicly claimed. And so
here's the thing. If you're gonna be stupid in love
(54:28):
quoting Rihanna, here with the stupid in love. If you're
gonna be stupid in love, you but just just gotta
be super in love and quiet. Stop posting these dusty
niggas on the internet. Stop letting people know that you're
fucking on them and the fact that Barry you are
rubbing your ring finger. No, she has money. There are
women that don't want to be proposed to by these
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dusty ass niggas because you know what these dusty niggas
gonna do. Take your money. We've seen it happen to
Kellie Clarkson, Mary J. Blige. Don't want to be on
these sets in them thigh high boots, no more, but
she gots to she gotta keep because her nigga took
all her money. Kelly Clarkson lost that weight from the
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stress of having to pay her ex cousin.
Speaker 3 (55:16):
It wasn't ozimpic the thing women losing all of their
money in the divorce. That happens every day. Right. Oh
wait a minute, I forgot this. Three verse brothers losing
all their money in the divorce. So you name three people?
Speaker 1 (55:33):
Yes, No, I can keep going. I could keep going.
Speaker 3 (55:36):
Adele who you think can go longer? Me?
Speaker 6 (55:38):
And you?
Speaker 3 (55:39):
Kelle Berry saying women to me saying, man, how long
do you think that competition will last?
Speaker 1 (55:45):
Here's the thing, and here's the problem. Men like to
act like they want to be these providers, right, and
so a lot of men will be like, I'm the man,
let me provide. You ain't got to do nothing. I'm
gonna take care of the household, and then when they
get done with the marriage, be mad that a bitch
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want money?
Speaker 3 (56:06):
How are you getting here? Who I'm listening? I'm sensing
that trauma again. I don't know what's going on.
Speaker 1 (56:16):
I'm sticking up for the women's name. Who did women
are out?
Speaker 2 (56:21):
Or go?
Speaker 7 (56:21):
Beat?
Speaker 3 (56:22):
Him up right now, whoever hurts you, because he clearly
is still in your head, because you're like, come on, now,
you know what's crazy.
Speaker 1 (56:32):
I also just saw a video that I highly disagreed
with Barry. It was this video. This man went around
asking would you would you live on an island of
all women? And all these women were saying yes. Then
they went to the men and were like, would you
live on an island with only men? And all of
them niggas said no. To be fair, I would never
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choose to live on an island with all women. I
don't care. I don't care how big the straps get.
I need a pall. So I don't understand this hate
for men. I don't.
Speaker 3 (57:05):
I love you represent it so well.
Speaker 1 (57:08):
No, I don't. I do not represent No. I'm not
the man.
Speaker 3 (57:13):
Seeing that you got some pomp pounds right behind you
to say, hey man, I've seen them right there right
there in the corner.
Speaker 1 (57:21):
That is a fake Amazon plan. It is not a
bom bomb. Come on, you know what's crazy. I there
are things that I think men should learn, and I
think y'all are mad at the y'all are mad at
the patriarchal thing that y'all set up.
Speaker 3 (57:43):
You think black men have set up some system in
the United States of the Americas, Here we go.
Speaker 2 (57:54):
I think it's just the patriarchy. Whoever falls within that right.
Speaker 3 (57:58):
Whoever does everything the patriarchy. Do black men and women
fall under that something established by somebody else.
Speaker 1 (58:09):
I didn't.
Speaker 2 (58:09):
I didn't say black, I said I.
Speaker 1 (58:13):
Priarchy.
Speaker 2 (58:14):
The creators of the patriarchy set all that ship up,
and everybody where it benefits them, black, white, Latino or
other will fall in line with whatever channel works best
for them.
Speaker 1 (58:27):
By the way, Maurice in the comments said, I've been
following you for a cool minie, Mandy. You don't hate men,
but he's onto something. Here say with your chest, unmute yourself,
and I would love to know how you fix your
mouth to say that Barry is onto something around me
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leading the hate women charge. Watch him act like he
at work or something. Mic.
Speaker 3 (58:56):
Don't make me rory you and go through your little twitters.
I'm just saying, by the way, you.
Speaker 1 (59:00):
Want to know what's funny about that? Y'all? Y'all hear
that in an upcoming episode, a man had the nerve
to email me my own tweets and so I double
down on all them bitches, And so y'all will hear
me do that? Not next week because next week is
our Thanksgiving episode, but in about two weeks, I'm giving
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y'all the tweet breakdown and how I stand ten toes down?
Fuck you, bro fu, fuck all of y'all. How about that?
How about that? And Marie.
Speaker 3 (59:31):
Conversation? What's happening?
Speaker 1 (59:34):
You know, did y'all hear a high Barry's voice? Just
got that means you know, you know he awn some bullshit.
Now here's the last thing I wanted to talk about,
and curious to know y'all's thoughts specifically. I'm trying not
to make this too personal or lean too into my
own personal dealings. But Atlanta, I call him in Atlanta Native,
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but you know, I guess he's really from Saint Louis,
But anyways, he's Atlanta. Usher is suing a group of
his friends over an unpaid back loan. He loaned quite
a bit of money to some investors that were looking
to open up a open up a club. He agreed
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to loan them one point seven million dollars. He received
a repayment of one million dollars, but never got the
remaining seven hundred thousand dollars back. Now, I have some
thoughts on this because although he never got the remaining
seven hundred thousand dollars back, not sure the calculator he
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used to determine this interest. But he is suing four
point nine million dollars in damages, allocating seven hundred thousand
dollars for each of seven claims in a lawsuit. Now,
Brian Michael Cox has a twenty seven year friendship with
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this man and is listed as one of the people
being sued for this seven hundred thousand dollars and literally
wrote a Instagram post saying, regarding today's news, I've learned
a lot recently about being careful with who you choose
to invest in a business with, no matter how small
the investment. He also claims that his twenty year friendship
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with Usher remains intact. Now y'all already. Oh, by the way,
Connie said, when was this loan? This loan was for
a January project. Months later, the restaurant that was supposed
to be purchased with this loan was not ever purchased.
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He received the million dollar repayment in August, and when
he asked about the other seven hundred thousand dollars. They
came back and said, well, we don't have that money anymore. However,
what the money was given for didn't come to fruition,
so bitch, run me my money. A few things here.
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I think y'all have already heard a whole lot about
my thoughts on doing business with friends. My advice has
always been, bitch, don't do it unless you're willing to
lose your friendship, lose the business, or lose both. It
is inevitable, inevitable, inevitable. That's the word of the goddamn day.
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And so I wanted to know if in any case
you could maintain a friendship with someone who sues you,
because I cannot. I couldn't even go back to a
friendship if a bitch drew up some goddamn legal papers
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to sue me for anything, because at that point, if
you have to take it to the courts, we're beyond
respecting each other as friends because whatever it is, we
can't talk through it. You don't trust me to go ahead, Barry,
go go what.
Speaker 3 (01:03:13):
You're saying, because I had to follow up on paperwork
because you couldn't honor our friendship and give me my
money back. Now I'm in the wrong for trying to
get my money back.
Speaker 1 (01:03:24):
No, not what I said.
Speaker 3 (01:03:26):
No, you said no, you said him suing mean if
I'm that far overdue, You've had plenty of opportunities. You
know that you owe me. You know that I want
my money back. If you are ducking me, if you're
not doing it, if you've made promises on the way,
I don't know the whole story. But no matter what
my action is, because you owe me seven hundred thousand,
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here's the thing I gave you. Keep in mind, I
gave you right.
Speaker 1 (01:03:54):
So here's the thing.
Speaker 3 (01:03:55):
You're a million plus friendship.
Speaker 1 (01:03:58):
There were more given. There were multiple investors here. If
you only loaned one point seven million dollars one moment,
you got your million back. But now you're coming after
us for four point nine million dollars.
Speaker 2 (01:04:20):
He's suing each person for seven hundred k.
Speaker 1 (01:04:23):
Seven hundred K. He's only owed seven hundred k.
Speaker 2 (01:04:26):
Yeah, it should be like he should be suing each
person for like one hundred k and some change if
he's going to add interest, but usually interest, depending on
their contract, might be compounded annually.
Speaker 1 (01:04:36):
My point and so to me, Okay, I owe you
about one hundred grand as a friend. You coming after
me for seven hundred grand.
Speaker 3 (01:04:45):
I need to see the paperwork, and I need to
see the paper Maybe he's suing. Maybe he's suing each
person for seven hundred k because expecting the judge to
lower the judgment out to make it even.
Speaker 1 (01:04:58):
You know, you gotta say sue each you can't sue.
Speaker 2 (01:05:00):
Yeah, but at this point he's risking it because technically
that wasn't the agreement for the outstanding debt. If he
loaned all seven one point seven million and they all
paid him back a million, then that would be justified.
But at this rate.
Speaker 1 (01:05:15):
And so that's the thing Meg said in the chat.
Maybe he's hoping he'll be made whole by at least
one all. Phil Way is your friend if now that
burden is coming directly my way when you know I'm
also a nigga, I'm I'm out of an investment myself
because the people who are who we all.
Speaker 3 (01:05:36):
Try to loaned you the money You came to me,
not as to think you came to me as a
friend and I gave you money. You seen to like
erase that fact. This isn't like, Hey, I just want
something for you, something suing you. This is a business
arrangement we had that you faulted on, and you're saying,
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I'll just let it go. You're doing the whole Chris
Brown me money thing by my man the other way,
because like, what, why can't y'all just treat business like business?
I gave you money, I was expecting something back you
for whatever reason, didn't by choice or by options, and
I just took my legal thing.
Speaker 1 (01:06:16):
And I love that you said that, because a part
of why I don't believe friends should do business is
because it's almost impossible not to take things personally. And
so if you are my friend, you coming out after
my livelihood with this lawsuit because you're asking your I
don't know that reaching by seven times the amount or whatever.
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You're multiplying the amount by what I kind of owe you.
Speaker 3 (01:06:45):
But like everybody's kind of said, you still get a judgment.
A jury ord just says what you get. So the
number you put in is whatever.
Speaker 1 (01:06:54):
Yeah, and I guess I can understand too, maybe legal
fees and things, which is why he overreached with this
as well.
Speaker 6 (01:07:00):
But he's basically suing the investment company, so which is
probably the significant reason why Brian is not a feeling
affected by the lawsuit.
Speaker 1 (01:07:10):
Brian is a small percentage.
Speaker 3 (01:07:14):
Well, yeah, I think they're just not named in the lawsuit.
But he's suing for I mean, that's what I'm saying,
that they're just named in it. Are you sure that
they're individually being sued for seven hundred thousand? Are you
sure they're just not named in the suit.
Speaker 2 (01:07:31):
If it's one lawsuit for the four point nine, they
might name the company and then all the partners in
that company.
Speaker 3 (01:07:38):
Yeah, that's not directly suing them each for it.
Speaker 2 (01:07:41):
It could be it could be the seven individual ones,
which that would make sense because then it goes back
to like what Meg said, like one of y'all is
gonna pay me. But if it's one lawsuit with seven
like defendants, then at that point he's going after them
individually and not just the parent company that might have
cash to check.
Speaker 1 (01:08:02):
Y'all know, I'm after my husband one moment so that
we get these absolute details because my man know it all.
Speaker 2 (01:08:09):
Baby, pull up the court documents, send us the lane.
Speaker 1 (01:08:13):
Listen, he better not let me down. He's searching the internet.
This was filed in the city in Atlanta. It does
say an investment group. So let's see the people within
that at investment group. Oh baby, they're opening pdf files
and all I'm not gonna lie love this, okay. So
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you know what's crazy for individuals and for companies. So
I'll see they Hona Ray, Atlanta attorney whose trust account
received Usher's money, is being sued Brian Michael Cox, who's
the longtime producer and songwriter, Keith Thomas who's an entertainment
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industry figure, and Charles Hughes, another entertainment figure, plus their
respective companies that are each tied to them. What is
a lawsuit? Let me see? Okay, So the actual cash
shortfall is the seven hundred thousand. The four point nine
comes from how the lawsuit is structured. And he has
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seven claims. So the complaint brought up seven separate causes
of action each where he's asking for no less than
seven hundred thousand damages so breach aveilpment, breach of fiduciary duty, conversion, negligence,
breach of contracts, unjust enrichment, and money had and received.
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So he is suing for all of those counts, not individuals,
no less than seven hundred thousand dollars plus prejudgment interests. Goddamn,
he got them cardinals, That's what I'm saying. That's where
to me, I understand business and legal jargon, but to me,
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if you're friends with one of these people, I don't
know the coming up with every which way that you
could sue and going seven counts and suing for that
amount for each I get the overreaching and hoping you
land at one of them. But if you get all
seven too, that's kind of preposterous, especially knowing that one
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of your best friends is involved.
Speaker 3 (01:10:28):
In my opinion, So you've never seen somebody like oversue
for something just to try to be mean and spiteful.
Speaker 1 (01:10:38):
Point. So again my point, I don't see how Beecocks
can come out and say our twenty seven year friendship
is still intact when.
Speaker 3 (01:10:50):
Because he's taking care of business in the end. Yeah,
I mean, I don't know how you get away from it.
And I'm asking you because I really don't know. If
I've already loaned you a million plus, you're gonna be
mad at me because I didn't accept that you didn't
pay me back. I didn't I guess.
Speaker 1 (01:11:09):
I guess I'm also interested to know that this loan
was given out in January. He got a million in August.
I don't know many shorts. Was this a short term
loan because niggas got time to pay you back? Like, goddamn,
you got over half of it back within eight months
of loaning it. So to me, I just I don't know.
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Maybe it's because the restaurant never opened it all. They
never got the property at all, you know what I mean?
So he's like, so where the other money if y'all
never got the building, I.
Speaker 3 (01:11:41):
Assume, But trust he couldn't sue if they if the
terms of the whatever paperwork said or you cann pay
me back in two years, he wouldn't.
Speaker 1 (01:11:49):
Be I mean my point, which is why he was
able to come up with seven different lawsuits.
Speaker 3 (01:11:53):
The paperwork says something that they didn't need. That's the thing.
Speaker 1 (01:11:58):
I'm not mad at it. So I would just say,
by the way, trev valid trev put saying that the
friendship is still in tax seems like some rich people shit,
because yes, had this happened to anybody else living chat
to check? You taking food off off my children's table
with this lawsuit?
Speaker 3 (01:12:15):
Goddamn?
Speaker 1 (01:12:17):
So it definitely is that By the way, Connie said,
Chat didn't pull up the actual contract for you, lol.
I feel like if I asked for it, I just
asked it to break down what the four point nine
million dollar lossuit was. If I said, Chat, send me
that contract that they breached, I want to see it
from my own eyes. I feel like you could find
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it somewhere on the interweb. Meg has her hand raised.
Speaker 2 (01:12:45):
Go ahead, Meg, it's friends because as soon because you
didn't pay ooh, I'm sorry, Meg, I ain't even gonna
hold you.
Speaker 1 (01:12:53):
Gotta mute you, but you sound like you about to
do an alien invasions on this bitch. We can't not you,
but your wee fee is fucking up. So I'm gonna, oh, Meg,
go to another room. I'm gonna umute you, and we
go see if it works. Otherwise, you are not taking
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over our brains tonight. All right, Meg, I'm u mute
if you if you want to try again, your okay.
Speaker 3 (01:13:27):
So what I was saying is what if what if.
Speaker 2 (01:13:33):
They're trying to like make it look like he lost
all this money so doesn't pay taxes, and they're trying
to get out of paid taxes by saying he has
to pay all this money and lawsuit and that's why
they're still cool because he's not really you know, like
they're doing association ship.
Speaker 1 (01:13:46):
Do not turn these black kinks into scammers, Meg, I
won't allow it.
Speaker 3 (01:13:51):
Like I said, rich people ship, that's what this is.
Speaker 1 (01:13:54):
No valid. I'm not gonna lie, Meg, but you're right,
these are rich people problems and valid. Don't know if
I want to allow you to sit up here as
a spicy white and turn these black men into cameras.
Speaker 2 (01:14:06):
He doesn't lawsuit for that.
Speaker 1 (01:14:09):
But that's what I'm saying. And if y'all see what's
happening with Theos bitch, you're not getting You're not getting
away from the Feds. Okay, you're not getting away from
once things are in the court system and shit, you
don't want to be tricky with how you navigate shit.
Because themos Cephos bitch apparently they was out that Nigga
was calling himself Eddie Hennessy. Allegedly, the Feds are saying
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they have forty credit cards and debit cards using Alias's
bitch now their legal key. Their legal team came out
and was like denied all claims. But to me, bitch,
this is y'all are going up against the federalis. Why
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would no PR statements needed? Bitch, take that ship in
front of the jury to clear your name.
Speaker 2 (01:15:02):
They took her off of wife's wap.
Speaker 1 (01:15:04):
Nope, they aired it back.
Speaker 2 (01:15:07):
They put it back, they aired it back on there.
Speaker 1 (01:15:11):
All right. So, by the way, I never want to
do this ever again. But shout out to Q and
Christopher who chose to show up an hour and eighteen
minutes late work out. That's the disrespect. Corporate life, honey,
corporate life ezy. You know what's even crazier, baby, this
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side of the year, corporations have.
Speaker 2 (01:15:38):
To know.
Speaker 1 (01:15:40):
You're not working hard. You're hardly working.
Speaker 3 (01:15:42):
On It is my bad.
Speaker 1 (01:15:46):
I've got karate. Okay, sorry, you know what's crazy? Men
love an excuse? It's work kid a karate? God, damn,
y'all quit.
Speaker 3 (01:15:55):
I'm a gay man.
Speaker 1 (01:15:56):
I'm differ it.
Speaker 3 (01:15:58):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (01:15:59):
Oh wow. By the way, I did have a hot
take as I was, and y'all hear it coming up.
In an episode there was someone tried to come at
me about my old tweets, and apparently I said I
was gonna make it my goal in life to teach
black people how to tip and I will say Christopher,
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your people are the best tippers, So kudos to gay men. Anyways,
let's get into.
Speaker 6 (01:16:26):
Wait, wait, wait, wait, question, Am I supposed to tip
for trash service?
Speaker 1 (01:16:29):
Here we go with this. See what I mean.
Speaker 3 (01:16:31):
I'm just asking a question.
Speaker 1 (01:16:35):
Okay. The answer to that is at least ten percent.
Thank you. Oh. Maurice said it at the same time
as me in the chat. Ten percent for trash that's
that's what you do.
Speaker 3 (01:16:49):
Well, that's when contuities already included.
Speaker 1 (01:16:52):
I'm not gonna hold you Q. You're giving that. You
go in and if they're not perfect, you was already
planning that tip. That's what it's given.
Speaker 5 (01:17:02):
No, no, no, no, no no.
Speaker 3 (01:17:03):
I tip good fool good service. I tip crazy.
Speaker 1 (01:17:07):
But when it's trash service, at least ten percent?
Speaker 3 (01:17:11):
Oh y'all got it?
Speaker 1 (01:17:12):
Hey, Connie? Connie said, at least tip tax text be
like seven to eight and a half percent, So yeah,
it's about.
Speaker 3 (01:17:19):
But should a person tip when gratuity is included?
Speaker 1 (01:17:23):
No, nigga, it's already included. The gratuity is a tip.
Speaker 3 (01:17:27):
But some people still ask for the tip even if
though the ties.
Speaker 1 (01:17:31):
Oh no, the additional tip is I'm gonna give you
some advice on life. That's the additional tip. Ain't my
body additional tipping out here? The fuck talk about they
got a lot of economy. Not in this economy. I'm
gonna give you a tip go back to school. That's
not even a good advice advice anymore because they make
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you goddamn degrees not matter for shit? Okay, AnyWho last one?
I would love to know if anyone has an m
I ignorant scenario dilemma thoughts where you care to know
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if you're being ignorant, selectively ignorant, or nothing is wrong
with your thought at all? Fuck anyone who's offended? You know?
I want to know, does anyone have one?
Speaker 3 (01:18:24):
Can we go to this tipping thing?
Speaker 1 (01:18:27):
Okay, go ahead, Barry, all right, all right?
Speaker 3 (01:18:30):
I mean, and I worked in many restaurants, and that's
if I'm I mean, we all probably do whatever food
delivery service. I'm not trying to shout no particular company out.
If you just gonna pick up and bring to me
the food, Why am I tipping you based on what
I order? It's a service, But why am I hear
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my question? Very particularly?
Speaker 4 (01:18:55):
Yes?
Speaker 3 (01:18:57):
What I order? If I decide I want a two
hundred dollars steak insides and versus I want a sub sandwich.
Why am I paying you?
Speaker 5 (01:19:07):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (01:19:09):
Or for the delivery service, I tip the same no
matter how much food I order. So I'm tipping between
seven pretty much seven dollars. Five to seven dollars is
flat rate for them just bringing me my food. I
actually don't tip my percentage for delivery drivers.
Speaker 3 (01:19:29):
And so how is that different than a waitress or
a counter person? Some people order at the bar. How
is how is it different?
Speaker 1 (01:19:38):
You're me go ahead, Connie.
Speaker 2 (01:19:40):
If you're at a restaurant and you're having great service,
where your server is knowledgeable, want the food, is making
drink recommendations, is checking in on you, your drink never goes empty.
Things like that. To me, as a retired server, is
always twenty percent. That's what you want to go service
do want shitty days, So that's not always a thing.
But if you're ordering at the counter and all you're
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getting is somebody who's pushing button, I might tip like
a dollar or two. But there are some restaurants where
their tips are shared with the kitchen.
Speaker 1 (01:20:11):
Yeah, so so hit my eight dollars.
Speaker 2 (01:20:13):
It's sharing with everybody else.
Speaker 1 (01:20:15):
I hate pulled houses. But for me, here is my
comparison for the delivery driver. I'm comparing the delivery person
with your food to the runner at a restaurant. So
the runner is who brings your the plates from the
kitchen to the table. It's not the person who's been
serving you all night, who took your order, who keeps
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your drinks re filled. The runner is literally the person
who runs the food. So for me, that's what someone
is doing who's picking up my bag and dropping it
off at my house. And normally the runners don't get tipped.
Maybe in a pulled house, they get tipped from the service,
but they don't get tipped from the table directly, which
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is why you running me my foot. That's it. Like,
I look at them as runners, so that's why I
tip the way I tip for those and they're not
providing me a service. Nine times out of ten, the
bitches can't find my goddamn building, and I want to
deduct they tip because nigga, Now I had to leave
out my house, go down my stairs, and motherfucker, come
get the bag outside. If I wanted to leave my house,
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I would have left my house. So that's the worst.
Speaker 3 (01:21:22):
When then, niggas, I think, are y'all truly? I mean,
I know everybody eats differently, and we got our rich
randle here. Do y'all feel like y'all getting five star
service out there? I don't. I don't see five star service.
And I go to different levels of restaurants fine dining.
Speaker 1 (01:21:37):
In Atlanta. There's maybe three places that I know I'm
going to get top match service. Never haven't gotten. But
they're at fine dining, fine dining, white tablecloth type of establishments, right, Like, Unfortunately,
you have to realize that at the end of the day.
And if we don't want the world to be autonomous,
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we're going to have people who have shitty days. We're
gonna have people where service is subjective. They may think
they're doing a great job and they're not. They may
feel like they only have to do the bare minimum. Bitch,
why you here? I don't have to go above and beyond? Like, service, unfortunately,
is subjective. And I also think it's geographical. And I
told y'all that, boy, the South is slow. They think
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we all got time, Bitch, I've been sitting for twenty minutes.
What the fuck is like bruh, it's just slow down here.
Speaker 3 (01:22:30):
And you're still doing twenty percent plus.
Speaker 1 (01:22:33):
I mean, I've learned to understand more or be a
little bit more understanding. But which is why I go
to white table called establishments, and I spend the money
because I want the good service.
Speaker 2 (01:22:48):
Okay, real quick, I got two stories.
Speaker 1 (01:22:51):
So if we start off you ignorant, yup, q h.
Speaker 3 (01:22:56):
No, there's a place in Teta Monica.
Speaker 1 (01:22:57):
I go to.
Speaker 3 (01:22:58):
The service is amazing. They want to know people like
robot to pay.
Speaker 1 (01:23:00):
I tiped from crazy other.
Speaker 3 (01:23:02):
Place downtown La.
Speaker 1 (01:23:03):
I go to.
Speaker 3 (01:23:04):
I don't eat cheese.
Speaker 1 (01:23:05):
I say, oh, can I get a burger? No cheese.
I get my burger.
Speaker 3 (01:23:08):
My shit got cheese on it. I send it back
and come back again with cheese on it.
Speaker 6 (01:23:13):
At what point do I just like what we're doing here,
like like that?
Speaker 2 (01:23:20):
I don't. You can't blame your server. You have to
blame the kitchen.
Speaker 3 (01:23:23):
But none of that server. Bret that cheeseburger to me, and.
Speaker 2 (01:23:29):
Yes, what I understand. And at that point it's, hey,
you know what, I'm just gonna go ahead and cancel
this just I'll pay for my beverages or whatever I
did eat. But I'm not paying for this burger, but
there is still even then a way to do that.
Speaker 1 (01:23:43):
But do you know what's suck too about that? And
kind of you brought up the pulled houses or when
it's not pulled, it's the server's job to be thankful
and tip. And so if it's not a pulled house,
there are people in the kids and bartenders because I've
been that if I know you not even tipping out,
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but you're expecting me to do your shit. I've been
in a place whereas a bartender, you not tipping me out,
You're not making sure I'm good at the night. You're
not looking out for me. Your drink's gonna be weak.
Speaker 3 (01:24:16):
Beforehand when you're giving the service.
Speaker 1 (01:24:18):
No, that's the thing.
Speaker 2 (01:24:20):
No table does a night. That's why I said the
expectation is that everybody understands this table might not come
back for me, But if they love Mandy as their bartender,
guess what, They're gonna go straight to Mandy, sit at
the bar, and she's gonna get their tip, not me. Right,
So it's like, sometimes you do have shitty staff. I've
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worked with staff where there's just ditzy and I'm like, girl,
you fucking it up for the rest of us. They're
not back here, even though the food is good, even
though the majority of the servers are good, they got
the shitty server tonight. So it's almost on the rest
of the servers to like kind of come in and
be like, oh, I got you quel the food out
and it's like, hey, here's this burger, here's this, here's whatever,
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here's whatever. To make sure that as an experience, you're like,
I had an experience here, and you didn't really realize
that this particular server was kind of shitty because everybody
was looking out for you.
Speaker 1 (01:25:15):
Service. Yeser is tricky, like, and that's what I'm saying.
You also don't understand the pull houses, Like when when
I worked behind the bar and shit, this was like
Applebee's forever ago. But I worked at Applebee's and I
would at the end of the night you could even
see how much tips when you close out your register,
what you got compared to somebody else. I remember there
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would be nights where I made three hundred and fifty
dollars in tips and I'm like, yes, and my motherfucking
of the bartender only pulled in ninety six dollars. We
bust that down. So now I'm only taking home two
hundred bucks because we're splitting. And so that's what I'm saying, Like, unfortunately,
it sucks. You don't know what the tip out is,
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what the back of the house is supposed to get
you're all supposed to tip the front of it, because
that's another thing. You could have a goddamn hostess that
sits you all the big part, Like that makes it
hard for you to be a good server because of
how they're sitting people in your section. Like it's really
an inner working system that most people. If you haven't
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worked in food or beverage, or if you haven't worked
in any of those positions, you literally are oblivious. You're
ignorant to it because you literally don't know. So if
y'all niggas is listening, we just told you what it's
like like. Even for me too, I ask I ask
my servers that are good, I'd be like, hey, do
y'all pull hey when you if you get this on
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a credit card, does it all go into your check
or do you get cashed out at the end of
the night, Because what else they're doing right now is
and what sucks for servers is we're living in a
digital era, baby, where most times this used to be
a quick money situation for a lot of people. If
you're tipping on a credit card, those credit card tips
are now going into a check, which means they're getting taxed.
(01:27:01):
So the best way to like, here go here go Berry,
very shut all right, look Berry's life. Oh my god,
they're tax paying citizens. Ew no, but they're not getting paid.
Like all right, I give up, I give up, I
give up.
Speaker 3 (01:27:17):
My question is, why are you putting it on Joe
public the consumer, to take care of all the problems
within the restaurant.
Speaker 1 (01:27:24):
It's not that's what I'm saying. A lot of times,
it's the restaurant owner's issue.
Speaker 4 (01:27:28):
I know.
Speaker 3 (01:27:29):
But you're saying that the customer needs to pay twenty
percent of whatever they're eating and drinking to deal with
the issues of how people are getting paid in that restaurant.
That's okay.
Speaker 2 (01:27:40):
I don't think it's that no, but I feel like, again,
if you had a good experience and you're able to
tip twenty percent, then do so. Otherwise, tip what you can.
There were a lot of times where everybody was like, oh,
we loved it. Everything was so great. Everything was so great.
There was like, you know, to be honest, like this
was our like little treat thing. We didn't really know,
like we're we only got like ten dollars. And I
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was like, listen, come back and see me next time.
Because either way, like my job shouldn't depend on whether
you're gonna tip me or not. Because I took this
seven dollars an hour job, that's on me. But obviously
if you come back. And I did have people come
back where they were like, oh my god, girl, you're here.
We're just getting drinks, but we're gonna sit in your section. Great,
I get a twenty dollars tip and I literally didn't
(01:28:23):
do anything except bring them their drinks. But again it
goes back to it's supposed to be considered like an experience.
Otherwise you can go to work and you ain't gotta
worry about tipping.
Speaker 1 (01:28:34):
If we just lean into capitalism in every other country
you go to bro again, if you get out, it's
disrespectful to tip because they're also well me The restaurants
in other countries pay a living wage to their employees,
which again back to the United States of America who
tricked us and said this was the best country to
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live in. They fucking lied because they counted on you
nigglets not have a passports and experiencing the rest of
the goddamn world.
Speaker 3 (01:29:04):
Every time I want to give you half a credit
for a point, you say some foolish.
Speaker 1 (01:29:07):
I can't say. I like that word.
Speaker 3 (01:29:10):
AnyWho almost make yo yo smile about me. Then I
had to look at her like, oh my god, oh
my god, helt you do it? Don't let it. Rory
should be a warning sign all y'all be careful. We're
looking up stuff. I say, Rory should be a warning
message to all y'all were looking up all your stuff
now excuse me, Yeah, there.
Speaker 1 (01:29:32):
Will be no Rory slander aloud over here.
Speaker 3 (01:29:36):
Secondly, the social media expert to clean all that up though,
real quick.
Speaker 1 (01:29:39):
Secondly, I'm going to say it loud and proud right now.
If you nigglets think y'all are gonna make me apologize
for some ship I said over a decade ago, you
could suck my big, girthy dick from the back because
I can't go pull hard to the sand. That was
(01:30:01):
eleven years years ago, twelve years ago, thirteen years ago. Bitch,
I might not apologize with something I said yesterday.
Speaker 3 (01:30:09):
Because I've evolved, ma'am. I have known you for about
seven years. I've never heard you apologize about anything. Oh
that's cap never. There's always a reason.
Speaker 2 (01:30:20):
I think, sorry to the gamers, right y'all?
Speaker 3 (01:30:25):
She did not know, she did not.
Speaker 1 (01:30:30):
Whoa you know what? Hold on? Hold on? Let me
ask my husband. Has many be ever apologized? Ever? Let
me put a big ever apologized for apologized?
Speaker 3 (01:30:48):
Who are you talking about? Well, let's just agree to disagree.
That's our that's our whole apology. She got to test
it on the beck.
Speaker 1 (01:30:59):
So here's the thing. And here's what I say too.
Had Rory even apologized? Do you know how many people
don't accept apologies? Bro? You didn't. If you do, now
you already.
Speaker 3 (01:31:09):
Making a case for not apologizing.
Speaker 2 (01:31:12):
Is that? What is that? What they were talking about?
They were like old tweets and he actually said sorry
on like.
Speaker 3 (01:31:19):
He needed what was it? What's carry washing his character's name?
He needed up, he needed a consultation. He went out
there randomly. No, I'm just gonna tell him, I'm just
gone to factor. Come on.
Speaker 1 (01:31:31):
Twitter was different eleven years, no filter.
Speaker 6 (01:31:34):
On Twitter, man, everybody was saying everything crazy on Twitter
that time.
Speaker 1 (01:31:38):
If it wasn't for Rory.
Speaker 3 (01:31:39):
And Duty Palosa, I wouldn't have met Mandy at that
New York win a law tom Ago.
Speaker 2 (01:31:43):
So.
Speaker 3 (01:31:45):
Rock with Rory all day. But everybody could get a correction.
Everybody can get damn.
Speaker 1 (01:31:49):
Okay, are you all ready, bitch? I've apologized. Okay, so
my husband is here to defend me. It's gonna be
some fun shit. Yes there are public examples. Oh yes,
there are public examples of Mandy be apologizing, including for
things that might have offended people. But whoa wait.
Speaker 3 (01:32:18):
Read it lied?
Speaker 1 (01:32:21):
Okay, but but it's also true that she often doubled
downs on her takes instead of doing big public I
was wrong apologies. So here's what I can actually point
to based on stuff that's on the record. Okay, damn.
Number one a blanket apology for an offensive segment on
(01:32:44):
an older episode of Horrible Decisions, episode one thirte Defining Terms,
featuring Dustin Ross, I talked about issues in the community
around respecting trans women and the men who love them,
then did a kink segment, and we apologize if anyone
felt offended during that segment. Then it goes to say
that was a generic apology, but it explicitly tied to
(01:33:06):
a segment they knew hold on could offense and listeners
hold on, here's another one personal apology. On Instagram, Many
posted a real where she talks emotionally about someone who
had supported her. In the caption, she said, so, I
want to apologize to I don't know who this person
(01:33:28):
is if I ever make it up and all you've
done for me for granted, I don't.
Speaker 5 (01:33:34):
Know who.
Speaker 3 (01:33:36):
I think it Wasn't.
Speaker 1 (01:33:40):
You want to know what's crazy? Bitch? They got me
and Wheezy's therapy episode. In the early Working Out the
Kinks therapy episode for Horrible Decisions with doctor Maya Pettiford,
there's a segment where Wheezy and Mandy are pushed to
own their part in hurting each other. The transcription shows
the therapist telling Manny to take ownership and Mandy agreeing
(01:34:04):
to apologize for what she did. It's about a phone
call or conflict that caused her.
Speaker 3 (01:34:10):
And you did, and you looked in her face and said, oh, Weezy,
I'm so sorry. That's what happened.
Speaker 1 (01:34:17):
I think not, by the way, the bottom line, has
Mandy ever apologized period? Yes, there are documented instances. Has
she done big explicit apologies to hold groups after controversy? Hell,
you're a widely covered example of a long formal apology.
(01:34:40):
What does exist is content warnings and blanket apologies, which
I'll take. Bit.
Speaker 3 (01:34:46):
So was I right now for you a little chat
GBT conversation? Did the answer?
Speaker 2 (01:34:54):
Not?
Speaker 3 (01:34:56):
Unlimited data?
Speaker 1 (01:34:57):
Not unlimited data in hotspy? Y'all sound poor over there, nigga,
y'all ain't got that already? Unlimited data and hot spots?
What type of cricket users are being advertised on the ship? Oh,
it was not me.
Speaker 3 (01:35:14):
I'm in my car, I got, I got.
Speaker 1 (01:35:17):
You know what, I'm gonna tell y'all who it was.
It makes sense why he don't tip either. That was
ces Mike, I had.
Speaker 3 (01:35:23):
Wow what it was not? I was on your side too.
It was on your side with the apology. I remember
the teary eye crying Louisa, I'm sorry on the town
hall and all of that.
Speaker 1 (01:35:36):
Right, all right, let me mute you up, all right,
calm it down, calm down.
Speaker 3 (01:35:40):
What I said is her favorite apology. I mean, feel
the way you feel. But I said what I said.
Speaker 1 (01:35:48):
I think that's the mature side of this. I never
tell someone they're wrong for the feelings they have. You
were entitled to feel, and I won't tell you you
wrong and having feelings. Oh but what am I supposed
to do about that, bitch?
Speaker 3 (01:36:02):
We're human joking now.
Speaker 1 (01:36:04):
People be too sensitive, man, People be too motherfucker sensitive.
That's why. Oh wait, that's what I said I was
gonna do. Let me update it while we're on the phone.
Right now, I'm adding comedian to my bio. That means
you can't be offended by nothing else, said.
Speaker 3 (01:36:19):
Boom. AnyWho go ride with that?
Speaker 1 (01:36:23):
I mean, hey, it's allowed a lot of comedians and
podcasters to go the distance.
Speaker 3 (01:36:31):
Okay, I gotta confirm the date five.
Speaker 1 (01:36:34):
Okay, I'm gonna do it.
Speaker 3 (01:36:36):
An apology if something goes wrong, No worries.
Speaker 1 (01:36:39):
I'll do a stand up show next year, depending on
my profile. As long as I do a one man show,
I'm a comedian. Anyways, Guys, if you want to be
a part of a live episode like this where apparently,
like my cat does to me, I sit and endure
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really excited about what more is coming to the platform.
I will be changing the name because it's gonna be
giving more shows than just Selective Ignorance at the top
of the year. And if y'all want to continue hearing Barry,
you know he's here. We're gonna have him on a
couple more bonus sodes and all the things. I'm excited again.
Speaker 3 (01:37:20):
During the flen now.
Speaker 1 (01:37:25):
I know, I know, Well, it's the holidays right now, Barry,
this is going up on the feed tomorrow. Anyways, Thank
you guys so much for tuning in. This has been
another conversation of selective Ignorance, where conversations thrive, controversy thrives
something dood, and conversations matter bitch when it ain't in
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front of me. God damn it, I know, fucking but
conversations matter. It's fucking almost ten o'clock at night. My
brain shut down four hours ago, but yet I'm here
with the ones I love. Okay, see you guys next
week on the regular drop and again if you're on Patreon,
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