Diddy Sentencing, Captured Inmates & Body Count Lists | Bonus Episode - Selective Ignorance with Mandii B

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is Mandy be Welcome to Selective Ignorance, a production
of the BLACKPEC podcast Network and IART Radio. Class is
in session. Although this is an assembly, that's right, I
have all of the classmates from all over the school
joining for this assembly. Now, let me break this down
on what is happening in this bonus episode. I am

(00:23):
joined by my patrons. That's right there, the OG's. We
call them the senior class citizens. Although they're not super old,
they're seniors, right, I'm trying to keep the theme going here, guys.
Everyone's laughing because I call the senior citizens. But basically,
these are the ogs. These are my patrons, these are
my supporters, and I'm so happy that on these type

(00:44):
of episodes they get to join in the conversation. Now,
on Fridays, I do bonus episodes where I am gonna
be joined by different co hosts because I'm luckily going
to be taping those virtually, so you guys may hear
some very familiar voices coming up on those. But this

(01:06):
week I'm joined by my really dope I don't even
want to call y'all followers. I feel like we're friends,
although I just found out one of them is white,
and y'all know that was really really you know, I
only have a few white friends. And his name ain't
even white. It's Trev. Trev is not a white man

(01:28):
named I'm confused. Anyways, y'all really excited to talk about
all the things on this episode. We are going to
get into. Let's run down the docket. We're gonna get
into the final inmate from the New Orleans jail break,
finally being caught in none other than Atlanta. Geez. Of course,

(01:51):
he got caught in Atlanta, and allegedly, y'all, they're saying
his girlfriend has something to do with it, but if
you ask me, they're always gonna find a way to
blame on. We're gonna get into that. Then I have
not got to talk about the Diddy dudes. My good
friend Barry who's in here, did have some thoughts about
that and wanted to talk about it. So we are

(02:13):
gonna I can't wait to talk to Barry about Diddy.
And he was just sentenced to I believe it was
fifty two or fifty four months in jail, so really
he only got about to want I had three years
probably with good time or whatever, with good behavior and
then Soup, who is also here, wants us to discuss

(02:36):
what Cam Newton recently said about requesting a list. That's right,
he wanted the laundry list from his current partner, who
just birthed his ninth child. He wanted to know every
single person that she had sex with before they furthered
their relationship. Now, yeah, if you hear the sarcasm in

(02:56):
my voice, it's because what the god, shit the fucking hell.
But those are the three topics we're for sure gonna
talk about in this episode, so you'll get to hear
my thoughts as well as my classmates thoughts. But also
I am going to allow any of them to pull
up on me and go sparring, or we could just

(03:19):
take it to debate class any topic that has been
brought up in the last thirty two episodes. If there
was a problem with anything I said, if they want
to pull up a receipt and want me to double
down or take it back, We're gonna end with that
and see, you know, if the classmates are more ignorant
than not, or if they align with my genius. Anyways,

(03:44):
I guess we will start off with talking about the
jail birds. Now, Earlier in May, there was a story
about ten inmates who escaped a jail in New Orleans.
Apparently they ripped the toilet from the wall, pulled some
metal to the side, and baby escaped. And when I

(04:07):
say escape, them nigga scattered like roaches, you hear me.
And I don't even know if that's bad because I
think they were all black and now we can't use
roaches when I don't know, but if you see the video,
all you see is them like it's like the lights
turned on and they escaped out of jail. Anyways, one
by one they started getting picked off. A few of
y'all probably lost some money. A few people made bets

(04:29):
based on the looks of these men. People were like, Oh,
he gonna make it, he gonna stay out. You feel me? Well.
The last prisoner standing recently got caught up in Atlanta, Georgia.
That's right. He was caught over off of Campbelton Road.
If you know Atlanta, then you know where that's at.

(04:51):
His name was Direk. I only like to say Direk
like that because I was a fan of Saved the
Last Dance, and that's how she said her brother name.
You can't help who you love, Derek? I just love
I love how she said it. Anyways, Derek Groves was
a thirty one year old convicted you ready second degree

(05:14):
murderer and also was there for attempted murder, so mad
murders under his belt. I don't know why people were
cheering for him to be released, like like, y'all, he
didn't sell drugs. This nigga killed people. I need y'all
to get it together. I don't know if y'all see
it in the comments, people are like, ooh, I'm gonna
put money on his books. Ladies, get it together, please

(05:38):
have some fucking kouth. Anyways, he was cornered in Atlanta,
and he is the last escape pee to remain at large.
He allegedly received help from accomplices, including his girlfriend, Derianna Burton,
who was arrested for aiding the escape. Now, since this

(06:02):
took place, y'all, they are saying that they got into
an argument yesterday. Neighbors heard this argument. They got into
a fight, and so they're saying that she called the
tip line, y'all. They're saying she read it on this
man and said, come get this little felling out my house.

(06:23):
And so that's where the narrative right now is that
she's the reason he got caught. Now, I don't talk
to some friends. And if y'all haven't heard me on
this podcast long enough, anyone listening who doesn't like rats, snitches,
you don't have to like me, because I would be
all of the things that I just mentioned. Do not

(06:45):
do a crime with me. Do not come to my
house and think I'm gonna hide you. I'm telling if
you get locked up, I'm not writing you. Y'all know
I had this ordeal with a former boot fell in, babe.
This is why it took. Y'all know my trauma with that, right, Okay,
y'all know my trauma with that. For those of you
who don't know my trauma with it, i'm gonna say
it really quickly. I met this little fine why end

(07:08):
On Tender. He had little light eyes, he was cute.
He had just got out of jail, y'all. He was
in jail for six years, but only for selling guns.
So I was like, oh, you was just an entrepreneur,
and but you were doing it in New York, right,
so New York don't really let you have guns. But
I was like, anywhere else you would have been hy.
You was just you know, selling selling metal. So I

(07:31):
was like, oh, he was only selling guns. Cool. But
he was on probation when he got out, so you know,
I really liked him, and he was really trying to
make it work. He couldn't get a job like back then,
y'all know, this was back when they didn't hire felons
like that. But now that our president is a felon,
I think they've been a little bit more lenient. But basically,

(07:52):
he couldn't get a job, so he didn't have that
much money. So I really wasn't trying to cuff him, right.
I was like, I can't wife you because Chipotle won't
hire you. So anyways, the one night I really was like, nigga,
I like you so much, I'm gonna make you a
home cooked meal. Now this is when I really only

(08:12):
knew what my mom taught me. Okay, So I made
meat loaf. That's the white side, don't judge me. So
it was meat loaf, fresh fresh mashed potatoes, collar greens,
corn bread that was the black side. And then I
even made the kool aid, y'all. It was good, y'all.
He never showed up because he violated parole, violated probation,

(08:37):
whatever it is, y'all know, I don't know the difference
between the peas because I don't deal with felons. So
from that point forward, I said I'd never do it.
So I say all that to say I would never
aid and in bed a prisoner in my home. This
woman did that and now it's facing federal charges for
harboring a fugitive. Now, we do have some women in here,

(08:59):
and I know a few of them have had really
poor choices of relationships in the past because we talked
about it. So I would love to know any of
the women in here, if you can think of any
previous partner that if they got locked up and came
out or escaped prison, if you would hide them, yes

(09:20):
or no? Share the story. I will say. Meg went
right over to the chat and said, no, Dick is
good enough to go to jail. Ebanie also said, not
even one. Absolutely. Okay, I like it here. I like
it here. Y'all is smart. However, you know what, I
also know, women lie? Boy? Do they be lying? Boy?

(09:41):
Will women say I would never ever do that? Yet
they do? So Okay, that is okay. Connie said, I
don't mess with the legal shit. Understood, understood, understood. I
do want to ask if anyone has thought about it.
If you were to go to jail and you know

(10:03):
you have a long sentence. This is where I'm gonna
ask the classmates to get creative. If you were put
away in jail for a very long time and you
ended up escaping, who would you run to? Who would
you call? And where would you go? Feel free to

(10:24):
raise your hands so I could call on you think
about it. I know I'm going to my best friend
and I'm bringing her down with me because bitch, we
in this together. So I'm going to Crystal and my
DJ had a really good, good take. Now we know
we're we know our president is trying to build a

(10:46):
border right for that one country continent. What is it?
It's like, you know, it's it's a big piece, that
little south border Mexico. You feel me. I feel like
you got to go to Mexico because where they wanted
to build the wall to not let them in. They're
not gonna go over that wall to come and get me.

(11:06):
So Mexico gotta be the smartest place to go. Now,
I wouldn't say, can't coon, cause, bitch, you gonna get you.
They gonna show you in all the little can't Coon videos.
So you gotta go to like a spot that I
can't say because it's Spanish, but you gotta go to

(11:27):
one of the little cities that'd be hard to pronounce,
you feel me. And then you just gotta learn Spanish.
You gotta do exactly what Baybaldi told us to do
for the Super Bowl. You bitches gotta learn Spanish. You
got four months, okay, you got four months to learn Spanish. Uh, Connie,
if you could, if you escaped prison, who would you call?

(11:50):
Where would you go?

Speaker 2 (11:52):
Calling one of my best friends? We are going to
drive across the Mexican border, drive through Mexico and some
I'll get to South America because I think Mexico still
has agreements for extradition. So I gotta go where I
can't be brought back.

Speaker 1 (12:10):
Do they? I'm only asking about do that because they
remember that. You remember that group of friends that like
kill It was obvious one of them killed their friends,
but they were able to just leave her and none
of them ever got charged for even whatever happened with that.

Speaker 2 (12:25):
The ones that said that they were going down there
for like plastic surgery.

Speaker 1 (12:30):
Oh that's so, that's different.

Speaker 2 (12:32):
So there was there was a story where there was
like a group of people, it was like a mixture
of men and women, and they said that their friends
were murdered in Mexico and they said that it was
a cartel related thing. The cartel came out and said,
check this out. That wasn't us. We don't do that shit,
and they laid everybody out and they said we didn't

(12:52):
order that hit.

Speaker 1 (12:54):
So if that's the situation, I mean it was it
was something like that, but I don't think that was
the exact one.

Speaker 2 (13:00):
But either way, they they they extradited before people have
run away to Mexico and they've been in the American
government has been able to bring them back.

Speaker 1 (13:10):
So I just need to go where I get more South. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (13:13):
I don't know what the deal is with South America,
but if I can get there, then I can get
on a boat and get to Cuba.

Speaker 1 (13:21):
Cuba tricky now too, because they said it ain't Jet
Blue flying there.

Speaker 3 (13:25):
Now.

Speaker 1 (13:26):
I just say they still got rules. Though.

Speaker 2 (13:28):
The point is they got to find me in Cuba.
That's my point.

Speaker 1 (13:32):
And you know what you could blend in just like
train could blend in Mexico real good, which is crazy
because he's white, but you could blend in in South America.
I'm so sorry for bringing it up.

Speaker 3 (13:48):
I think so yeah, I think trail trade change it up.
I mean, I ain't mad at you when they're snatching
people up the streets. I would be white.

Speaker 1 (14:01):
Too, No, ture, have you missed the joke Barry said.
Barry said, you was Mexican until our president changed, and
now you're telling everybody you white. I'm sorry, this mustache
is not given white man. It's just not like you
don't even do a white barber man. What is what

(14:21):
is going on?

Speaker 4 (14:23):
I'll do my own I'll do my own beard. I
don't go to the barber for that.

Speaker 1 (14:27):
Oh you go for the slick back. I see, I
see for this part. Right, all right, well we're gonna
get into the next conversation since Barry is unmuted and
also requested this topic if y'all had been living under
a rock final, I feel like finally this has come

(14:50):
to an end. Diddy was sentenced last week, and he
was sentenced to a sentencing that had people either like,
I don't know, it was a really mixed, mixed bag
of emotions around if justice was made. Essentially, so he

(15:11):
is getting a part of time served in a total
of a fifty four month sentencing, which ends up being
about five years. He's already been in there for about
a year and a half, so you can think three
and a half years, but then possibly two and a
half with good behavior. I think he also did get
what was it like a fifty thousand dollars fine or
something that also seemed really really small, knowing the money

(15:35):
that he has. And so before I share my opinion
on this, Barry, what were your thoughts when you saw
the sentencing and did you think that it was going
to be what it was? Did you think it was
going to be lighter or did you think it was
going to be more.

Speaker 3 (15:51):
First of all, I got to cover myself by saying
I believe women. I think he you know, the reality
is and this is just I've been having a bunch
of conversations about this. People, the average people, even maybe
the people on this call. They wanted him to be
punished for the abuse. They wanted to seem to be

(16:11):
about the abuse. They didn't really care about anything prostitution,
They didn't so when you see fifty months, you know
you're not thinking prostitution. It doesn't even doesn't even ring
a bell when you think about the abuse. While you
wanted him to be sentenced for what he did, what

(16:33):
he got caught doing, and potentially the rumors of him doing,
I don't even know if you wanted him to get
five years for that. I think he's still guilty. I
think he should still go to jail. If you if
when you think about him this, I'll ask you, I mean,
you have thoughts and you ain't scared. What what do

(16:54):
you really think if you could go rewind it, come
up with real are just to prosecute him againts? What
would they be? And what would you hope he got
charged with? Keeping in mind he already paid a large
settlement for some of the violence, I'll be honest.

Speaker 1 (17:14):
With you, and possible trigger warning. It's interesting to me
that so many people wanted him to go to jail
because we saw the video of domestic violence. The truth
of the matter is, I know so many people walking
around here who have committed domestic violence assaults that got

(17:38):
no time, that are still walking around that have done
that to multiple partners. And so this idea that the
vast majority of people saw that video and were like, Oh,
he needs to be locked away. There's also so many
both men and women, who have laid the hands on
partners and they didn't think jail time, they didn't think

(17:58):
that it was such a big crime. So it's really
interesting to me, yes, that the public kept going to
that video of the hallway dispute between him and Cassie
and us physically seeing that, knowing that so many people
have been victims of it or have been the perpetrators,
and jail hasn't been the result of justice in many

(18:21):
of those cases, right, And so for me, the conversations
around the prostitution element of it is interesting because at
the same time, none of us, and maybe because they
were men, maybe because we have evidence that Cassie agreed
to it, no one felt like paying for dick or

(18:42):
pussy was a big deal at the end of the day.
Like as women now, we've changed the scope of even
what dating looks like and how we ask for things.
I think what prostitution looks like is picking someone up
off the street and soliciting, like you know, people who
who maybe aren't on their right minds, and the way

(19:02):
that people view that word. Even prostitution is not what
we see shit, even Sweetie doing allegedly, I'm gonna throw
that out, But we have women operating as sex workers,
men doing the same. So I think that that's why. Also,
it's interesting to see how many people didn't care about that,
They didn't fucking care about that, and then the fact
that it did seem like Cassie was requesting some of

(19:25):
those acts. I've said this before, don't nobody give a
fuck about a sexually liberated freak ass live in ho
az bitch? And when I say bitch, it's like just
a woman who lives in her sexual truth who might
want to experience things. Can never be a victim, right,
And so I think, unfortunately, with those two conundrums, where yes,

(19:46):
she was a domestic violence victim, how we view that
and how many people have been a part of that
in prison for a long time hasn't been a thing.
And then how normalized essentially prostitution is. I think with
those those charges alone, he was over sentenced those those

(20:06):
bases alone. Now do I feel like he's committed crimes
that I think he should sit his ass in jail
and think about, Yes, and so I'm not mad that
he got time at all. Let's be very clear. I
don't think he should have gone free. I don't think
there shouldn't have been any consequence. I do believe he
threw that little that little what is it, the little
Mazotov ship into the into the car. He did all

(20:29):
of that. What is it? The Mazotov, Molotov, Molotov?

Speaker 4 (20:36):
What thev is? What the Jews say?

Speaker 3 (20:40):
Like, we did this.

Speaker 1 (20:40):
Before and I really thought I got it right now.
But anyway, don't nobody's call it a Molotov. I don't
know why they called it that in this but whatever,
he tried to burn that nigga car up because he
was going at the Cassie, you know what I mean. So,
and I think he should just be in jail for
all the bad deals he gave people in the music
industry too, Like at this point, yeah, sit show as

(21:01):
a jail and think about the bast ship you done.
Did you'd have made motherfucker slaves. We want reparations, right,
we sit in that nigga to jail for all the
slave ass contracts he put people in. So I'm not
mad that he's in jail at all I do know
what they were trying to get him for didn't quite land,
and unfortunately there was not enough evidence to really get

(21:22):
him in the slinger, Trev. You have some thoughts on
the sentencing.

Speaker 4 (21:27):
Yeah, I think I think you're probably right and that
you think he was over sentenced. But on on the
season or not on a runaway curls answering that read.

Speaker 1 (21:41):
The Yeah, nigga, cork yourself.

Speaker 4 (21:44):
Yeah, she read the She read the transcript of the
judges sentencing like she gave like our the judge gave
a speech and was like basically said as much that
you know, uh, the charge kind of said like the
charges were dropped, but you know, we clearly saw what

(22:04):
you did and you abused that woman and you need
to you know, pay for it. So that, yeah, it
didn't sound like they gave it was wild to hear that.

Speaker 1 (22:14):
Which to me is not justice. I'm not gonna lie
to me. That's wrong as hell. Like, imagine you go
to court for a d U. I right, you go
to court for this, maybe not d u I. Let
let's take away a d UI cause, nigga, if you
if you breathed and you was drunk, you was drunk.
You need to figure it out. Say you say you're
little okay, say you go to jail for selling guns.

(22:37):
That's all like you were just selling the guns. It's
a crime, right, but it's not super super bad. But
say back in the day, you was around niggas that
was pow powing, you feel me. Niggas got hurt, niggas
got shot, none of them went to jail. But now
they're like, well, you were around, you were part of
this thing. So we're gonna send them to you because

(22:59):
we thought that what you did over there was bad.
And so even though we're not gonna send it you
for this, we gonna get you for this. Souper is
so he's not. But what I'm saying is the judge
saying that is making this very a very slippery slope
essentially with what justice looks like. Because how am I

(23:20):
going to prison or or going to jail with a sentencing,
not for my charges whatsoever, but because there was a
video that was leaked for you seeing that I slapped
up my my ex woman.

Speaker 3 (23:34):
It's you know, my concern not to make this about
race always? Why do we why are we always we
need to make an example non black people go home
every day get slaps on the rims to get the
warning with us, Oh, we gotta be an example for
the rest of y'all. I don't I don't like that

(23:56):
at all.

Speaker 1 (23:57):
What do you what do you mean by that?

Speaker 3 (23:59):
In part of the thing that he just says, well,
we we got to show them not to do this,
like not to do what not to? Why is it about,
like you said, why is it not just about the charges?
Why is it not just about what they were able
to prove? Why do you have to be the example
that says and no one else should ever even get
close to this? Why can't you just do what they proved,

(24:23):
get charged by what they proved with the average leniency
or specifically that they put out there for everybody else
because it's arry.

Speaker 1 (24:32):
It's one of those where we there's a privilege in
saying why we can't make this about race, or why
are we making this about race? Why is it about
setting an example when also there's no way to remove
that like we see that literally they're now saying that
Epstein files didn't exist. But guess who's still in jail

(24:52):
for them? A white woman. And that's a woman who
is underrepresented like women. Even though we don't align with
the white women all the time because they're not a
part of, you know, making sure we're good. It's a
woman that they're fine riting in jail, right. I think
when you look at the up, the higher ups and
white men, they don't mind using this example being set

(25:13):
with a black man. I do also think it's interesting
and it's difficult right now to talk about justice in
the way because the football player that's been proved innocent now,
who took his life because his name was brought up
in a case by we know, a crooked cop. It
was racism that leaned into that. And so when we

(25:33):
talk about the justicism as a whole, I don't think
we ever get away from distinguishing right and wrong from
black and white essentially, and where racism is showing up
because it's infiltrated through and through in our justice system,
it just is. So I just don't think that there's
a way to separate the two. Connie did say, do

(25:55):
you think society will punish him by withdrawing their support?
Here is the niggas love toxic niggas. I think that
men will champion around him like they have Shannon Sharp
like they have that they people have said that if

(26:16):
Bill Cosby went on tour, they would buy a ticket
to see his stand up. I mean, we have you know,
podcasters with charges and things like that against them, and
they're getting a ton of support. Like I think that
we're in a space where when you think of a
black man going to prison, we could take it all
the way back to oj right, we could take it

(26:37):
to someone essentially trying to be burned at the stake.
And when you talk about race, I think, at the
end of the day, even if a black man does
something wrong, boy, is there justice or a reason to
champion a black man going free? And so I think
if anything, because he still is a father. We see
he still had women write in fucking character letters like

(26:58):
he a good man, Savannah, Like, let's be very clear,
people are still gonna support that man, whether it's his
fan base, whether it's his family, whether it's the women
that still want to be close to a powerful man.
So do I think that we as a society punish
him by withdrawing their support as like this podcast, there's

(27:20):
people that like my opinion, there's people that fucking hate
my opinion. There's people that listen, there's people that don't.
That's gonna be the same case for Diddy. We're not
all gonna be in unison on whether we show up
in support or not for him. Ever that nigga gonna
have us come in. Uh, Trev says, I wish the
court would force him to sell all the publishing slash
royalties entitlement.

Speaker 3 (27:41):
He O.

Speaker 1 (27:42):
Now, now I do want to say, wait a second, Trev.
You're saying that. Not sure if he was trying to
get Carmelo to come late on his side, but he did,
and I wonder if it's because of this case. He
did end up giving a lot of artists on Bad
Boy back their masters when he changed his name to Love. However,

(28:03):
Audrey O'Day or Aubrey Aubrey Aubrey right, Aubrey came out
and was like, with getting my masters came an NDA,
and so a lot of the artists actually did get
their masters back, but the ones that were like, bitch,
we not signing that NDA, they're still under hold. But
he did recently actually start giving back masters and royalties

(28:25):
to artists that were on Bad Boy.

Speaker 4 (28:30):
He did, Yeah, but like I'm sure he still gets
some piece of revenue from some of that. I don't
think he gave up all his stakes and everything that
he's done for those artists.

Speaker 1 (28:40):
Of course not why would he.

Speaker 4 (28:41):
Well that's but like I mean, and when I said that,
I wasn't meaning like I wish they could do that now.
But like if somebody was, like if he was found
guilty of the abuse and all the stuff that they
originally were trying to pin him with, it would be
nice if they could like do that so that then
we don't have have to feel bad about listening to
one twelve after he's convicted and.

Speaker 1 (29:03):
Oh wait, jail, wait, wait, cauld y'all feel bad? Tripped
you you feel bad for listening to Peaches and Cream
Anita one?

Speaker 4 (29:14):
Yeah, I'm just saying, like, I don't know that song.

Speaker 3 (29:20):
I don't know what you so you can play that
one all you want.

Speaker 1 (29:25):
We are not going to do that. I do want
to ask then, because that was the conversation with R.
Kelly as well, and he wrote a lot.

Speaker 4 (29:33):
Of music, like you know, people try to you know,
people are like, oh, don't support R Kelly, don't stream
his music or whatever, and then some of them are like, oh,
you can't listen to Elijah's first album either, and then
it's like, well shit, I mean, some of these people
like him and like Diddy, They've got their hands and
all kinds of stuff.

Speaker 3 (29:53):
So yeah, can I ask you a question? Because me
and me and many have just have had this conversation.
I know she's a big Breezey fan. I just went
to this concert. Can I ask what's the why? What
are you trying to punish them more? You feel like
you should never have any money? What does it mean
to you to listen to an R Kelly song? What

(30:13):
does it mean to you now to listen to Puffy song?
Does it mean that you pro abuse? You just don't
hate them? You think the music separate. What does it
mean to say you're never gonna watch the cos be
you again? Are you? Are you trying to punish him?
Are you just trying to be so distant because no
one's watching your album. I've never understood that part of it.

(30:34):
I mean, there's people I don't support, period, but the
arts I never I don't think you build a big
enough connection or you're even doing too much of a
message to say I don't I can't listen to that
song again?

Speaker 4 (30:50):
I mean, I guess it's it's different now because almost
everything is streaming, right, so when you're when you are
listening to these songs, you are putting money in their pockets.

Speaker 3 (30:58):
Right.

Speaker 4 (30:59):
So if you have a if you have a connection
to a song that you really love and you know,
like in R. Kelly's situation, but you know now I
can't now you feel like you can't listen to that
song because you're putting money in his pockets? Is that situation?
I mean, I don't.

Speaker 1 (31:14):
I don't have that the black man should be able
to afford some ramen noodles. Is that what you're saying.
I don't think you think a black starve let that
nigga get some commissaries.

Speaker 3 (31:25):
Ship and what I've heard about streaming, you're talking about
a quarter since.

Speaker 1 (31:30):
Say YO need song baby, he can't even afford Rahmen
with your little stream You gotta stream that ship a
thousand times for that nigga to see a dollar. Okay,
like you could listen to it, Trav, It's okay.

Speaker 4 (31:44):
Well, I mean, my shit's all download anyway. I ain't
streaming nothing.

Speaker 1 (31:47):
So Trev, you lucky I don't have your goddamn phone
number because i'd be petty and just start sending you
songs like, hey, you check this out. Yeah, I don't know,
it's it's it's weird because I in a sense, yes,
I do agree. Like because I guess, Barry, if you

(32:08):
think about what we've done as a community in terms
of not going to Target in the last year because
of what they've done with DEI I could see how
there's maybe this push not to listen to these artists
because they don't align with your moral views and things
like that in that nature. But by the way, Trev,

(32:30):
I don't listen to it in private. I listened to it.

Speaker 3 (32:32):
I love, but.

Speaker 1 (32:35):
I think that that's where he's coming from. I guess
there is motion in standing for something. And if y'all
listened to Antonette enough and even Crystal, they get on
me all the time because they'd be like, bitch, do
you stand for anything for your fault for nothing? I
don't know what the goddamn saying is, but you know
they just say, we gotta stand for shit. I'll be tired.

(32:59):
I need to see.

Speaker 3 (32:59):
So I just think the entertainment field is the lowest
hanging fruit possible.

Speaker 1 (33:05):
I agree, because let me see.

Speaker 3 (33:06):
You in march. Let me see you clean up your neighborhood.
Oh I didn't. I didn't listen to a playlist. I'm
a rebel. I'm pushing back. I'm saving the world. I mean,
there's so many things out here that could be done.
And it's like, well, I didn't listen to the Cosmic
Show again, even though I liked that episode. It's like,

(33:26):
and that's all what world problem? And that helped your
community in what way? I mean? I don't, hey, fight
your battles. I'm not trying to keep anybody from fighting
their own battles. I just I could come up with
one in a second. A hundred other things I wish

(33:46):
you would tackle.

Speaker 1 (33:50):
Yeah, I mean, man buried that might be the clip
that was good? You ate that all up?

Speaker 3 (33:57):
Yeah, I mean I still love answering that doing. Hopefully
it won't be mad at me what you use this.
I still support your sister.

Speaker 1 (34:04):
No, I mean, luckily like and I guess that is
the thing we have to sit with what makes our
soul and spirit feel you know what I mean, Like
we're doing something. I mean and when I say that,
I'm speaking for y'all, because sometimes maybe I just want
to wake up and smile. I just I just the
light and I say this all the time. There's so

(34:26):
much going on right now, especially with our current presidency,
with the landscape of our economy. Baby, and now you
don't want me to listen to when a woman's fed
up like it ain't nothing I could do about it,
You feel me, it's like running out of Sorry, it's
just such a good I'm also yes, making up my

(34:48):
own words because y'all know I do not know words
for anything, so when I sing it, that makes it. Okay, Soup,
your topic is next, sir, So I'm gonna go ahead
and insert a clip here. Okay. That was Cam Newton

(35:09):
on his recent podcast talking about requiring a list from
his now current partner who just gave birth to his
ninth child. That's right, third baby, Mama, ninth child, requiring
a motherfucking list, the fucking audacity. Now, Soup, you brought

(35:31):
this look Berry making faces? Okay, So y'all, this is
where we get a little gender worry, because boy, I
know I have some real strong, empowered women on with
me to take on Berry and Soup with whatever bullshit
I think they're about to spew with us, So it
will be the gray beards versus the feminist coming right up,

(35:55):
So soup before I share my thought that I think
you would be very surprised over. I would love to
hear your thoughts on what Cam had to say. And
if you are requiring a list of former partners from
your current partner.

Speaker 5 (36:09):
Me, well, me and Barry already had this conversation earlier today.
I think the whole conversation in regards to finding out
what the list is, it all comes down from insecurity,
right in my opinion. But at the same time too,
there are people who are they switch up when it
comes to different type of relationship, and I think that

(36:31):
all comes down to how much they give a shit
about their partner, right, Because if they don't give a
shit about their partner, then they won't care about the list.

Speaker 1 (36:39):
So so who I mean if you should jump the list?

Speaker 3 (36:46):
If you jump off, do you care about a list? No?

Speaker 1 (36:48):
So let me ask you this question so I can
make sure I got this right. So you are saying
that if a man actually cares about you is when
he would ask for your list.

Speaker 5 (37:02):
I think that if he's trying to make your official right,
he's gonna he's gonna he's gonna want to know a list, right,
and that's just coming from a space.

Speaker 1 (37:12):
He's coming from a space of what I would love
to know. That space that's coming from insecurity.

Speaker 3 (37:18):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (37:19):
Yeah, most definities coming from insecurity.

Speaker 1 (37:22):
Okay, So let me ask you too, is there an
age limit? Because you think it's a pro thirty five
forty gray bearded man to be asking a bit for
her list.

Speaker 6 (37:35):
Me.

Speaker 5 (37:35):
Listen, there are people who care, Like I said, there
are people who care. There are people who don't care, right.

Speaker 1 (37:44):
Because to me, I feel like the conversation around body
count we've said is a very juvenile ass conversation to have.
So to me, also as a man with nine children
by three different women, the audacity for you to ask
of a motherfucking list like you ain't sticking your dick
and mad bitches is.

Speaker 2 (38:04):
Correz especially after I just had your baby. You could
have asked me this before we started.

Speaker 1 (38:10):
No allegedly, no, no, no, the list was asked before he
decided to So let me add some content.

Speaker 2 (38:17):
Jazzy Fearless keeps telling us stuff.

Speaker 1 (38:20):
Wait a second, you ready? Jazzy responded to this very clip.
Are you ready? Her comment was, I actually love the
fact he has my list, such a weight off my chest.
She gave the list.

Speaker 3 (38:40):
Yeah, yeah, different disappointed. She's like I had her, you
were ready to care for her.

Speaker 1 (38:49):
Listen, listen, she gave the list. This is the same
girl who said that she makes his lunches and anticipates
all his knees and packs his bags and all the things.
So well as a few things here because for context,
he did go into saying that he would not have

(39:12):
moved forward in his relationship with her. And when I
say that, at this point, hold on, hold on. But
also at this point it just means impregnating her because
she ain't got a ring, so ooh, you put two
babies in me. At this point, he did say that
he needed to know the name of anyone that he

(39:35):
was close with, anyone that has been his teammate, anyone
who may share the same rooms with him, because he
don't want these men to have one up on him.
And he did say that there are certain men that
if she had been with, they wouldn't have they would
have never like gotten as far as they've gotten. Now

(39:55):
here's my take on it. And I have I have
a few from different lenses, right, and I have story time,
and I won't tell y'all who. But and y'all just
got to hear this again on decision decisions three months
from now. But but basically, here's my thoughts on it.

(40:16):
He let me tell you real quick. Let me answer
all the things. If a man asked me for a
list of all my bodies, I don't know all my bodies.
I forgot niggas names. If we did it where we
did it, it's not going to be a true accurate list.
But fuck you for asking me for one. First off,

(40:36):
second off, as a woman, as long as you didn't
fuck my mom and my sister or my best friend,
that's all that really matters. I actually want a slut
ass nigga come to me, seasoned, come to me with
some fucking experience. And if you got good dick, I

(40:57):
don't mind niggas knowing that good dick is mine. I
don't care it's mine now. Thirdly, if I made an
agreement with someone to take our activities to the grave,
I'm not gonna tell you. Let me tell y'all a
quick story. So there was this nigga that I used

(41:19):
to fuck with a little little nigga.

Speaker 3 (41:22):
Ain't gonna hold you wait a minut. Are you repeating
your story from this?

Speaker 2 (41:27):
No?

Speaker 3 (41:27):
No, this is because he didn't say my names, but
I knew he was talking about you.

Speaker 1 (41:32):
By the way, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. That's not me, Yes,
it was.

Speaker 3 (41:39):
You told the story.

Speaker 1 (41:41):
Whoa.

Speaker 3 (41:42):
Oh he had a friend. He had a friend, and
both of them played on the same.

Speaker 1 (41:48):
Then the JBP micks do not add this story to
me as it happened in my twenties. Yes, but it's different.
I'm barry. We're not gonna do this first, y'all putting
me into stories that amy is crazy. Anyways, this story
is different, so hear me out. Now, he was a

(42:10):
let nigga. I ain't gonna say if he was a
rapper or athlete, but he was. He was. He was
you know, fine shit. So anyways, in my twenties, I
was dealing with this guy for years. We had a
cute little time. Right. Anyways, he ends up getting married.

(42:32):
He gets married.

Speaker 6 (42:34):
Cool.

Speaker 1 (42:35):
We you know, we see each other around, but we
completely stop fucking and that's fine, all good whatever. Towards
the end of this relationship, I would say we rekindled,
we hung out, we behaved, but we hung out he
was still married, and he chose to let me know

(42:59):
way late that he told his wife everybody he had
been with now while they were dating. We was like,
it don't even need to be that series because I
see this person out, we're in the same circle, Like,
I'd rather not make it awkward. I love that for you.

(43:22):
He came to me and told me that she knew
that I was dealing with him. At some point hear
me out. I probably couldn't have been more pissed. You
know why, because not only had I gone into her
dressing room and been at one of her events, not
only had I seen her at a festival and hung

(43:45):
out with her and her friends, she knew the whole
time that I fucked her husband. And I was just like,
I don't think because we had the conversation that it
just wasn't a thing to be discussed. I was mad
that I felt out the loop. Now, yes, y'all listening,
and they're like, well, bitch, that was his wife. Of

(44:06):
course he gonna tell her. Ah. But what I'm saying
is when two people have sex, it's between those two
people who know and who don't know, especially if there's
a conversation around it, like if we say we both
taken this to the grave, it ain't up to you
to just go out and start telling people we fugged.
That's like that violates whether you think I'm a wife

(44:30):
or worthy of it or not. Nigga, we was fucking
for years. So if the conversation is not to let
people know. And now I'm in these rooms with your
wife who's now no longer your wife, but it's known
that we done have sex, it's like, well, I was messy.
You didn't even have to do that exactly. So Connie

(44:50):
said he could have at least talked to you about
it beforehand. Here's my thing, not even you don't need
my permission or to talk about it beforehand. If you
went ahead and did it, I would have told you.
Damn we said we wouldn't do that. But it would
have been nice for me to know, because bitch, I
wouldn't have you know, just hey, like I would have

(45:12):
known to kept my little distance because now it looks
weird this bitch. No, I don't had yo dick in
my mouth and your ass on my lips and I'm
just now around and cause you never know the energy
that a woman's gonna give We dealt with each other
before they got together. But you know how shit be,
And yes, Jojo said, potentially putting your safety at risk,

(45:33):
that's my thing. You don't know how people are gonna behave,
especially women, to know that you're a woman that's been
with their ex. Bro, don't put me in a situation
where I'm left not knowing why I'm being kicked out
or why bitch is a side eye and me, or
why I'm not like it's weird so for me with
him saying that, I just think that there are connections

(45:56):
and conversations that many people have with each other when
they have sex with someone else, and so anybody coming
in later down the line, like yeah, I need to
know who, what, when, where?

Speaker 3 (46:09):
Why?

Speaker 1 (46:09):
Bitch the audacity you don't have it? And I think
that that is one of those questions that a I'm
gonna realize, bitch, give fut about a nigga. I'm gonna
let you know out the gate if I feel like
you need to know about somebody, but a whole list.
Do you know I'm bisexual? The women too, Like I'm

(46:34):
gonna run out of paper, the ink is gonna draw,
Like I don't what are we talking about? So for me,
this clip reaked insecurity. It reached also just control and narcissism,
because the nerve of you, she is like, she's your
third baby mom.

Speaker 3 (46:56):
I don't understand the purpose. What do they want to
do with that information?

Speaker 1 (47:02):
I think there's a few things. Honestly a judge, I
feel like that there's no.

Speaker 3 (47:11):
Way to breaking up.

Speaker 1 (47:19):
No, he said that he would have broken up with
her if she said a name that crossed his mind
of a boundary, So she did. He did say that
if she had sex with her, if she had sex
with anyone that he deemed is a close friend, that
he wouldn't have moved forward with the relationship. So yes,
it would have been that. And to be fair too,

(47:41):
it's what I talked about in my in my past
relationship with my ex. A lot of the things that
I openly shared with and being honest was thrown back
in my face at the very end of the relationship.
So I think a lot of men use that as AMMO.
Sorry y'all sorry information you said, Well, now.

Speaker 5 (48:04):
Did his wife share that same information on who she
slept with in her pastor or not?

Speaker 1 (48:11):
He didn't say it, So I can't say that. However,
you want to know who? And mind you, he was
never married. Do you want to know who? The ex
baby Mama is a four A Magic City damncer.

Speaker 3 (48:25):
So judge.

Speaker 1 (48:27):
I'm not judging, but it's like, it's just like, bro,
how dare you sit here and try to sit here
and ask for a whole list when you're literally getting
women out of the strip club And Jazzy was a
bottle service girl in Miami, so you're also getting these
women from certain places and have the nerve to ask
them these questions, like if you want somebody that's so

(48:49):
wholesomer that you don't judge, go to church? Go okay,
don't go to church. Maybe but maybe don't go to church.
But what I'm saying is it's one of those where
like you, you get a woman and then I don't
know you you you like them? And I've also said
this two men love the hoes but didn't want to
be mad about the truth that. Okay, they they didn't

(49:12):
have somebodies you like how you how she suck your dick?
Guess how much practice she had to have to second
like that? Quite a bit?

Speaker 3 (49:20):
She could have been a natural.

Speaker 1 (49:22):
You feel me? It was funny because it's funny because
I don't remember who I had this conversation with recently,
but he was telling me about and I think one
of the I want to say, the Muslim religion. There's
this there's this belief that you go to the afterlife
and your gift in the afterlife is forty virgins. And

(49:46):
I said, now, who the hell wants that? That sounds terrible,
That actually sounds like a punishment. Do the Muslims go
to hell? Because who the fuck? Well, forty vergons a
whole bunch of for forty bitches that just nibble on
your dick that don't know how to ride. Like my
mind went to, like, where where is forty virgins? Like, huh,

(50:11):
welcome to the gates of I don't think they call
a heaven, but O welcome to i' llah. Welcome you
at the door. And he say, here go forty virgins.
That don't sound what are we talking about?

Speaker 3 (50:25):
Barks marked the time right there. Box could could be
marked into I'm just saying.

Speaker 1 (50:32):
Am I not allowed to say that? That's what they said.
They said they believe it.

Speaker 2 (50:37):
It is just a way to try to control the
women around them and to have a notch in their belt,
like look what I did and to that's that's all
it is. It's just ego and a way to say, well,
a woman is only worthy if you're pure. But it's
like you could still dog me out and treat me
like shit no matter how pure.

Speaker 3 (50:58):
I am.

Speaker 2 (50:59):
So old familions to have what you want and to
be able to say, I decide when you get to
do X. I decide when you are now worthy of
my dick, Like, get the fuck out of.

Speaker 1 (51:09):
Here, Get the fuck out of here, because that tack
the Venerand what'd you say something?

Speaker 3 (51:14):
There's some man who don't give a fuck about that.
I don't care.

Speaker 1 (51:18):
Yeah, and listen them the men I want, Oh all right,
all right, I don't want y'all, but I want the
ones that think like he can.

Speaker 3 (51:28):
I ask, was it a one way conversation?

Speaker 1 (51:31):
So he was having the conversation with Parker McKenna.

Speaker 3 (51:34):
And no was he saying I'm going to give her
my list as she's given me her list or they
just want one way?

Speaker 1 (51:41):
It seemed like he demanded the list. Now here's the
thing though, to be fair, right, even when we talk
about these conversations in terms of let's bring it to
a non traditional dynamic. Right, there's times where a partner
may want to know if you're having sex with someone else,
and another person don't want to.

Speaker 3 (51:59):
Know at all.

Speaker 1 (52:00):
Right, And so for me, I don't care if my
nigga was with a thousand as long as he coming
to me with with no diseases and not too many kids.
What are we talking about? Like, I don't care my
man could have been with a thousand bitches. He just
better have laid that pipe down because I don't want
nobody thinking I'm with some weak ass dick when I'm

(52:21):
bragging about it. But like for me, I think a
lot of women don't have that same nuance, Like we
actually love community dick. We like we want to know
that we are with a man that other women want
that might have you know, been around like I think
for the most part, and if you hold on, there's

(52:43):
women in here prove me wrong. Ladies, if you did
not want to be with a nigga or chose like
or decided like, ooh, he's been out too much, especially
after you got the dick and it was good. Now,
we don't want bad community dick. So I'm talking about
the good community dick. Have you ever been like, oh

(53:03):
my god, too many women have had this. It's too good,
but I gotta let it go.

Speaker 5 (53:09):
Yeahbody heard just mentioned dirty dick and niggas just just
the other just no.

Speaker 1 (53:17):
So so I will say I have had so twenty
four to seven that nigga was community dick. It was good.
The only reason why I didn't like it is because
then I started judging the bitches he was fucking. And
then I had another nigga who I was your fucking
people raw. So here's the thing. I'm fine with you
fucking mad bitches. But if I start seeing you put

(53:37):
in your dick and just chicken sandwiches like anything with
a hole, then then now, nigga, where is your honor?
Like for me, if I give you my list, you
gonna get motherfucking You're gonna get insecure cause nigga, you
might have his shoes on right now. You feel me
like you gonna feel away, like damn, that's your faith.

(53:58):
You listen to that nigga every morning you wake up.
Damn that nigga on your fantasy team. Like you know,
But as a as a woman, I think we do
judge based on like the caliber of women you're just
fucking because why are you just fucking with anybody? So
I guess we care about caliber.

Speaker 3 (54:18):
It's kind of judge you, right, Oh God, here we go.

Speaker 2 (54:21):
Ain't it judge for you to judge who I've been
as a.

Speaker 1 (54:25):
Man, not you?

Speaker 3 (54:29):
But I'm just saying.

Speaker 5 (54:30):
I'm saying because we we a fat girl all of
a sudden, it's it's, you know, we being we're being.

Speaker 2 (54:36):
Judged sometimes sometimes that's not at.

Speaker 1 (54:41):
I was about to say, like, you know, and I
was an honorary member of the bbw's so to me,
it's not even a big bitch because nigga, I knew
my pussy was given us a big girl, you feel me?
So I'm not mad if a nigga fucks berry is
so annoying. I don't care about the big girl. I'm
talking about the quality and as women, we know how

(55:03):
these other women are moving, how they and to me,
if I do like you, I okay, I'm lying. I
might be mad for a little bit. I'm a still
fucking nigga who fucked a weak bitch. I will but
y'all are y'all are y'all are more advanced than me
in this in this chat, I.

Speaker 3 (55:20):
Guess I have a funny feeling and you're a bad
person here. You found out who you liked. They did
an ugly person for like six months. You'll be like, nah,
you make him clean up his soul, socials and everything
that you would want. You would not want to be
linked to somebody who was dating the butterface at all.

Speaker 1 (55:41):
Okay, Well, I do understand that beauty is subjective, so
you know what I like. I ain't gonna hold you
my main nigga right now. He got another bitch on
his roster. And because we honest with each other, right,
And boy do I think she ugly so much so

(56:03):
to where I'm like, hey, you know I'm down for
the threesomes. Don't you ever ask me to do anything
with her. She is not attractive, she's not my type.
I don't find her to be pretty, sexy, nothing yuck.
And I still think he's the best thing since sliced bread.
So you know there's that. Now. Those were three topics,

(56:29):
But I do want to leave room for y'all to
call me out, for y'all to give me feedback, for
us to discuss any topics that have brought up in
the first thirty two episodes of Selective Ignorance. We've had
a lot of guests on, We've had a lot of topics,
We've done a lot of things. Barry, without raising his hand,
just went straight to unmute in So Barry, talk to me, sir,

(56:50):
what happened?

Speaker 3 (56:52):
This is a you know me, I always know Scott
curious questions. I know, I mean of us, the black families,
or even Latin families, or some of the white families.
Your grandma, your grandpa, maybe one more generation. You had,
ten uncles, you had when did it become recounting now?

(57:14):
And it's so it's such a big deal. I know
every person on my block that I knew if I
knew their ancestry, their family reunions was ten cousins, twelve cousins,
all under the grandma, all under grandpa. When did it
become a thing that? When did we have a new
number that is three? You can only have three kids?

(57:35):
You're going to be married.

Speaker 1 (57:36):
Twise, you're asking me about two things I don't want
to do. So mind you, you're talking about grandma's I've
said this, how many times women weren't able to have
their own bank accounts till nineteen seventy four. So when
we think about women back in the days, a woman
couldn't be raped by her husband, a woman couldn't really

(57:58):
have a job that she wanted. A woman really didn't
have many rights. So when we talk about our grandma's
the reason she had ten kids was because anytime her
drunk ass husband, well goddamn GROWHIBII came in from the
goddamn underground drinking in all night. Well, when he came home,
she had to lay on her back, and then she

(58:19):
got pregnant. And so that's where all the kids came from.
Mind you, back then you could buy a home on
a regular wage. Houses back then we're thirty thousand dollars.
If we talk about what it's like today, specifically millennials,
we're the most educated and underpaid generation of our time.
And then look at the economy. I keep saying, eggs

(58:40):
is thirty two dollars. Like, so, we're in a space
where women have the right to live for their passion.
They're not living to be mothers and to be reproductive
vessels for men. We're also living in a place where
there's a teetering conversation happening in terms of women are
having sex now for pleasure, not for reproduction. There's more

(59:01):
birth control options for us. Shit, we ready for you
niggas to get on your hormonal swings with birth control.
Goddamn it. So I think when we talk about where
we're at in a different place and maybe why we
were raising these bigger families back then, there you have it,
nigga rights and women.

Speaker 3 (59:20):
Why but why are we judging people now? Who I
mean when you said when you said Cam and I
think you said nine, I'm assuming Cam can afford nine kids? Yes,
So why would why? Why would I care? Why is
that a oh my god? And he got nine kids?

Speaker 1 (59:36):
So to me it's oh my god, because nigga, you
asking for a list from a woman like you. Ain't
got nine kids with three different women and none of
them had a ring. So to me, it's the audacity
of you're out here impregnating multiple women. You were an athlete,
so I know you got Hella bodies and you have
the nerve to ask me listen as long as I
can show you my test results and there's no disease

(01:00:00):
for you to get. I don't think as a as
a man, you should be asking a woman her sexual past. Berry.

Speaker 2 (01:00:08):
I think the difference there is back in the day,
and I say back in the day, like let's just
say fifty years ago, there were men and women that
were coming together having kids to build that family. So
maybe it was more intentional with all of the factors
that Mandy brought in right versus now what we're seeing.

(01:00:29):
And it's not to say that his kids weren't intentional,
but it's like, to Mandy's point, none of these women
were your wives for five seven years, and you guys
had all your kids back to back that didn't work out,
so you move on to the next relationship you have. However,
many kids, it seems like people are dating and having
kids and creating like a pseudo family without necessarily the

(01:00:53):
intentionality of like, this is my family that I'm going
to support and go have seventeen kids.

Speaker 1 (01:00:58):
Not only that, Barry, you brought up the finances right,
he could afford them. Well, we also have Nick Cannon,
who has fifty eleven kids, who just came out and
was like, damn, I you know, I made all these
kids and I can't be the father that I thought
I could be for all of them. Fatherhood does not
just look like being able to give money to kids.

(01:01:20):
It doesn't like, mind you. And I'm coming from someone
who my daddy showed up maybe once a month and
then had the nerve to act like I owed him
as an adult because he paid child support. This idea
that you're a father because you can quote unquote of
four children. While at the same time we see these
same conversations with women who are fighting to get more
child support and what does everyone say, A kid don't

(01:01:42):
take that much money? So is it that there was
just saying that the masses, the masses of the comments
we have, even the conversation right now, right where Brittany
Renner is getting fifty five hundred dollars a month from PJ. Washington.
He just signed a ninety million dollar cos she's going
for thirty five k. Cool. Now, if you're saying this

(01:02:05):
man all Lah cam Newton, Nick Cannon, all these men
can afford these children. But then when we have women
going into the child support system asking and requesting more
money for these kids because these men make these mass numbers,
there's a hypocrisy there because everyone's like, oh, y'all need

(01:02:25):
that much money to raise kids. But then again when
we talk about this in this dynamic, the conversation is, Oh, well,
he has the money to have all these kids. He
could afford these kids. Which one is it? Is it
Uchi Wally or is in one mic?

Speaker 2 (01:02:39):
Because if you add that but insert cards having kids
in it, go ahead. Oh, I was saying, I know,
it's a little bit different because the majority of the
conversation with Cardi is her having a kid with somebody
she's known for a short amount of time. But one
could argue, yes, she also has the money to support

(01:03:02):
her kids, or has the means and the resources to
get you know, take care or you know, assistance or
whatever to help with the kids.

Speaker 1 (01:03:10):
So still judging her having that baby in six months ghetto.

Speaker 2 (01:03:16):
She the first, She ain't the last.

Speaker 1 (01:03:18):
Take it the last.

Speaker 7 (01:03:22):
I was gonna say in my guards to like having
kids and getting married part, Like, I think we really
underestimate the impact that Christianity and that's values has on
our culture. Because even if when you talk about like
people like going back to the church or saying they're
involved in a church community or like have traditional values,

(01:03:44):
that's automatically like has a positive connotation, even if you
don't like align with that, like you think, oh, well,
they're the person goes you know, they have a mom
and a dad, and you know they the mom stays
home and takes care of the kids, and they go
to church and they have you know, like that doesn't
automatically mean it's good. I mean, look at the Catholic Church.

(01:04:06):
They got the priestile and all the boys all the time,
and like that's supposed to be seen as like a
positive thing to be involved in when we know there's
so much bad stuff that happens there too.

Speaker 1 (01:04:17):
That's why I listen, I be talking about the hypocrisy,
and y'all already know I'm waiting. We was in the
discord talking about what a religion episode could look like.
I might have to tiptoe. I might have to do
it like Jubilee style and do like a twenty b
one type style, like get get like five Christians, maybe
two Catholics just to it and we don't we don't

(01:04:37):
need many many of them, maybe two Muslims, and then
have the equal amount of like, what's what's the What
am I? What's the I'm not an atheist, but yes,
elastic okay, what hold excuse me? Had to mute everyone, boy,

(01:04:59):
did they just come out out the gate with all
the whoa. That was a lot of name colleague role
there I heard he din agnostic. I don't know it
was a lot, but yeah, I'm looking to have those conversations.
Very good question, Meg. Did you have another think you
wanted to to to add to this or switch the

(01:05:22):
conversation elsewhere?

Speaker 7 (01:05:25):
No, I just wanted to chime in about the like
marriage and kids and you know what, a good family
and all that stuff.

Speaker 1 (01:05:36):
Go ahead, Barry, what's your question? What's your question?

Speaker 3 (01:05:39):
I mean, this could be a decision decision, was a
question about asking here. But somebody who supports so much
non tradition. Yes, why when it comes to marriage, family
you only look you always judge it from a traditional sense.

Speaker 1 (01:05:56):
What do you mean by that?

Speaker 3 (01:05:58):
I mean when you're talking about the boy, what you
talking about so and so? This should be this way?
And this is talking about who marries who, how raised
the kids? You seem the lean traditional?

Speaker 4 (01:06:08):
There?

Speaker 1 (01:06:10):
Explain it? You can't even explain it. I ain't gonna
hold you. I'm here for Cardi divorcing a marriage that
wasn't healthy for her. I am here for her, moving on?
Am I here for her?

Speaker 3 (01:06:20):
But you also said you're judging her.

Speaker 1 (01:06:22):
I'm getting pregnant by a man that you've only known
six months. I don't care if you're newly divorced. I
don't care.

Speaker 7 (01:06:29):
What is.

Speaker 1 (01:06:34):
Not a rule, it's not a rule in terms of dating.
Let's be very clear. You don't know a nigga six months,
and you're a busy woman going through a divorce, hold
on already with three children. So when you think about
even the time that they were able to spend, bro,
you don't know a man in six months. And I

(01:06:55):
say that coming from a person hold on two friends
right now who they ask has got pregnant by a
nigga that they knew for three months? And boy is
that rocky the co parenting element of it, what they're
doing in a relationship, how they're going to show up

(01:07:16):
for these children. And so to me, it's just stupid.
I can call people stupid. It's not coming from a
traditional lens. It's coming from well, that's stupid. You don't
know somebody in six months.

Speaker 3 (01:07:31):
So she has a kid with someone she knows she
can raise. Its healthy. But because you think was too quick,
she's stupid.

Speaker 8 (01:07:45):
That's what you just said, Eh, what is the problem
if you have a baby, if you if you pro
create with a man that you have known for less
than a year, bit you stupid?

Speaker 3 (01:08:02):
Are you suing that Catholic?

Speaker 1 (01:08:04):
Okay? Whoaa? First off, the Catholics put it in the butt.
That's what they That's what I'm hearing. No one's having baby.
They put it in the butt.

Speaker 3 (01:08:15):
You're not Catholic.

Speaker 1 (01:08:16):
Nigga, I ain't. I ain't got no baby with a
nigga I ain't known for a year.

Speaker 3 (01:08:28):
They I know you too well. I'm like pulling back now.

Speaker 1 (01:08:33):
Because hold on, I don't need you to have the
people thinking a bit of pregnant because I wasn't.

Speaker 3 (01:08:37):
No, no, I never said that. But all right, y'all,
y'all jumped in. And if he goes too far, yes,
give me a hand signal. What does it mean for
you to date with intention? If you don't really want
kids and you don't really want marriage? This is what?
What does it mean?

Speaker 1 (01:08:51):
It means to find fucking happiness in partnership and create
memories like I like to travel the world, I like
to go out with my friends. This idea of happiness
to me with a partner looks like what I have
with my friendships, mind you, my friendships that have been
ongoing for ten, thirteen, fifteen, twenty years. Right, I am
able to live and experience life with my friends. I

(01:09:14):
don't understand why in romantic partnerships there has to be
these milestones which really inevitably deal with legality. No, but
I I was with my axcens. We broke up a lot,
but we were together for three years. I would love
to be with a person long term. A partner to
me looks like someone who gets to celebrate my wins
with me, who gets to travel the world with me,

(01:09:36):
who gets to create new experiences with me, who we
get to do that together. To me, it doesn't look
like being with a guy until he puts a ring
on me, until he puts a baby in me, until
I become all of these these things that essentially I
don't want in my life.

Speaker 3 (01:09:51):
I don't want to write the word grace, and I
don't like this word grace.

Speaker 1 (01:09:59):
Stop that bitch to the cookout. Literally, what I'm saying
is you do not know someone, and so to me,
with bringing a whole human life into the fold and
having to now be connected to this person for eighteen
plus years, I don't think it's smart to decide to
have to be I say it all the time. Boy

(01:10:22):
am I glad I didn't have a motherfucking kid with
my ex because if I did, I would have been
stuck with the goddamn narcissist. I love that I'm able
to just move on with my life. So yes, I
think it's stupid for anybody to have kids, whether you're
a man or a woman, to have kids with someone
that you've known for six months because you don't know
that person. And now the two of you who don't

(01:10:44):
fucking know each other, got a goddamn raise a whole
nother human being. That's what I'm saying. And yes, they're stupid,
Meg and then Alana.

Speaker 7 (01:10:54):
Yeah, having a kid with someone is very serious. That's
just for a praeriod to when you're when you go
to graduations, for like every family gathering after that, when
your kids start to have kids, if they're gonna want
their other parent around for those things, you're gonna have
to be around them for the rest of their life.

Speaker 1 (01:11:16):
And you don't like no more because y'all got it.

Speaker 3 (01:11:19):
You can be very for ten years of being the
same situation.

Speaker 1 (01:11:22):
I think you don't have kids.

Speaker 7 (01:11:25):
If you don't have kids and you're if.

Speaker 3 (01:11:27):
You're marrid, you don't have kids.

Speaker 7 (01:11:29):
You can separate from that person and cut clean and
go live your life, and they'll have to see them
ever again.

Speaker 1 (01:11:34):
And move on.

Speaker 7 (01:11:36):
There's always that string connecting you to them through your child.

Speaker 1 (01:11:41):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:11:41):
Ever, but I don't know the length of time you
were in that relationship is. I don't know how that
automatically translates to the part about divorce and being there.
If you got married at the one day that you
hit one night and get happen to not go and
you have a kid the next nine months, you think
for ten years and you wound upooking another thing.

Speaker 1 (01:12:03):
I don't to have a baby by someone that you've
known less than the time you're gonna have to be pregnant.
It's crazy, bruh. You gotta hold that baby for guarantee. Well,
I'm saying if the baby goes to full term, nigga, No,
I mean.

Speaker 3 (01:12:21):
The relationship is not guarantee my point.

Speaker 1 (01:12:25):
So to me, the least you could do is know this.
Nigga's middle name, last name is Mama names just the name.
Know some shit about this nigga before you have his baby, Alana,
go ahead.

Speaker 3 (01:12:36):
So I'm so happy to be on here.

Speaker 6 (01:12:39):
Love you, Mandy. What I wanted to say with regards
to that is, I feel like having gone through what
she's been with offset and you you have three kids,
like the third one is like what a few months?

Speaker 1 (01:12:58):
One year?

Speaker 6 (01:12:59):
Just maybe, so I would have taken time to focus
on me. Yeah, to do the healing, focus on my kids,
still make my bread, and just forget how to co parent. Then,
not to say that you can't date somebody, but if can't,

(01:13:20):
it shouldn't be that serious and put yourself in this
situation again to what is what's the outcome? What's going
to be different this time?

Speaker 3 (01:13:30):
I agree?

Speaker 6 (01:13:31):
So there's is there going to be healing? To be
a person, you have to come out of that relationship
and do better.

Speaker 1 (01:13:42):
I agree. I think I think that's my thing with
it too, right, And Alana, you just hit it on
the head. She has three kids that she now has
to learn how to coparent with with her ex husband.
She's now going have to try to figure out how
to co parent with two different niggas exactly across four kids.
To me, is just okay? Can it happen, Yes, but

(01:14:02):
do I think it was smart? No? No, it was no.
Now I will leave the floor open, taking it away
from goddamn decisions decisions topics, Shit, Barry, is there anything
else Trev, Emmy, Ebb, Jojo, h d D, Connie, Meg,

(01:14:23):
anything else that y'all would want to discuss? Meg? You
have your hand up, but I don't know if it's
for a different topic, Barry, what what.

Speaker 3 (01:14:34):
Do you think the lstead to be in two days,
two months from now, two months from now, who's on
the couch? Two months from today? Who's on the couch
on the main episode?

Speaker 1 (01:14:47):
Well, based on what it looks like, it's giving rotating casts,
so it's giving Mark is there once a week, Mona
is there once a week. Imani's stepping in more than
just Patreon. Apparently Sasha has come on yet another time,

(01:15:08):
so I don't know if she's gonna be infiltrated into
the mix. And I push you two months and move five.

Speaker 3 (01:15:19):
You didn't say two names. You didn't say two names.

Speaker 1 (01:15:21):
By the way, what were the two names. I don't
think anything happens with Ice and Ish. They're there, Iceni,
Ish aren't going anywhere. Wouldn't be surprised if Flip isn't
like maybe your year end. And that's because I think
by February, I think they usher Sue back in Surf.

Speaker 3 (01:15:46):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (01:15:47):
He's allegedly set to be out in February, and boy
were I think he had he not, had he not
been arrested, this whole ensemble would have been completely different.

Speaker 3 (01:16:02):
But I don't remember Surf talking about anything except for
the rap game, which I don't remember him covering different topics.

Speaker 1 (01:16:11):
He gave a few. He he had very ignorant takes,
so you probably, you know, kind of didn't want to
hear what he had to say, but he leaned into
other topics. I do think. I do think Surf somehow
gets back into the fold. I think Mona's there for
some time. I don't know. I love her, it looks

(01:16:36):
like the audience loves her. But she's already talked about
the commute, She's already showed up late a couple of times,
and boy do this fucking Joe love to talk about
the tardiness of niggas. So I don't know the patient's
there with that. And she doesn't live in Jersey, so
maybe she relocates. I don't know, and then I'm just
happy we'd never have to hear a woman talking circles again.

(01:17:00):
I don't listen to pape, so I don't know what
Sasha is giving over there, but I love Mona. That's
the voice that I think needs to sit on the
couch with those type of men. And you know, may
anyone who's ever been on the JBN do well. I
wish everyone the best? What do you want me to say?

Speaker 7 (01:17:30):
So?

Speaker 1 (01:17:30):
Mad A was music?

Speaker 3 (01:17:31):
Because I just told you to shut up?

Speaker 1 (01:17:35):
What you told me to shut up? Yeah? Why wishing
everyone well?

Speaker 9 (01:17:41):
Like?

Speaker 7 (01:17:42):
So?

Speaker 1 (01:17:42):
See, this is the problem. This is why people be
thinking I'm a villain but can't even say nice things.
I want everyone to be successful and flourish.

Speaker 3 (01:17:56):
I feel the same for a certain person that I
would feel for anybody got out of a beast of relationship.

Speaker 1 (01:18:02):
Oh paulase yes, oh lease, when you say here's the thing,
we're being real. Are you trying to get me caught
up on my grist? Motherfucking assembly? Nigga?

Speaker 3 (01:18:24):
Make them pay, make them pay.

Speaker 1 (01:18:26):
Oh, this is just about to be because what the fuck?
You know what?

Speaker 3 (01:18:32):
Well, you know most school assemblies that you'd be messy.
You got so when the bell rings, you know what
time it is.

Speaker 7 (01:18:40):
Make the Beard Brigade gang up on you.

Speaker 1 (01:18:42):
You see the Beard Brigade right now, the greatest.

Speaker 3 (01:18:46):
You don't know the truth, and we'll tell her and
she's like, oh, they got me again.

Speaker 1 (01:18:50):
This is crazy. Anyways, guys, these are the questions you
can get to ask me if you too joined here
of Patriot. These will the fuckers. Anyways, this was our
first assembly. You can catch us every second week of
the month. We will be right on our Patreon. So
join patreon dot com. Backslash selective ignorance. I'm gonna cuss

(01:19:14):
these niggas out. I'm gonna stay all with them, cuss
them out a little bit. And now he didnet gave
me goddamn editing work to do. So thank you, guys
so very much for tuning in. A lot of this
is not going in that we just talked about, but
hope you guys, and thank you. Yeah, Cole says, nigga,
shut the fuck up. God damn it.

Speaker 3 (01:19:35):
You should have got a dog and be scared and
not a scared of a cat.

Speaker 1 (01:19:40):
Anyways, guys, this is selective ignorance where something something happens
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