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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is Mandy B.
Speaker 2 (00:01):
Welcome to Selective Ignorance, a production of the BLACKPEC Podcast
Network and Iart Radio.
Speaker 3 (00:06):
It's your Mandy B.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
And it's a Friday episode of Selective Ignorance. Hopefully you
bitch just got paid close due, bitch.
Speaker 1 (00:18):
Not only is rendo.
Speaker 2 (00:19):
We outside for Halloween this weekend, and I'm gonna start
off by not being so ignorant by telling you pullsass
hosts to make sure you get an uber a lift
or get a DD. And no I'm not talking double dick.
I am talking a designated driver because nobody wants to
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end a good night out in the hospital or in
heaven or hell. Anyways, I am excited about this week's episode.
We are talking again our normal topics we have This
is America and our This is America segment. We're talking
about the monkeys that got loose with some diseases and
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if we would like another pandemic to come about. We
also are talking about the EBT crisis that is a
muscles because the government is still shut down. We are
doing a little special Friday with the music Man. We
got the music Man in the building. We just to
We got my good friend Asante. We are talking everything
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one music fest and then we're talking some ignorance of
course at the end, about whether it's ignorant to apply
for jobs on behalf of your broke friend. We gonna
get into it, Asante. I'm so glad we're doing this.
Speaker 4 (01:38):
Oh, I'm so excited to be joining one of my
faves man d B. If not the fave, I must say.
Speaker 3 (01:44):
I'm actually sad we didn't do this in person first.
Speaker 1 (01:46):
But I know I had to get I had to
get back home.
Speaker 4 (01:49):
Look, I was having too much fun at home, so
I had to get back to my real home, if
you feel me, y'all.
Speaker 2 (01:56):
When I started filming this podcast, it was literally right
after I think, Asante.
Speaker 1 (02:03):
You left New York.
Speaker 2 (02:06):
Really yeah, Like, oh, I don't even think you know.
So the podcast launched in February, y'all. I filmed like
ten episodes before starting this pod, and I did all
in New York. So between November and December, Baby, I
was filming Selective Ignorance of Figure.
Speaker 1 (02:22):
Out, and I am now thirty.
Speaker 2 (02:26):
Five weeks in. You know, I don't know about your
other folks in these seasons. I don't know what that's given.
But thirty five episodes in y'all see, I'm adding segments,
I'm changing things, and now y'all are getting me twice
a week.
Speaker 1 (02:43):
So yeah, I'm excited.
Speaker 2 (02:45):
We're not gonna double down or take it back at
the top of this episode, but I did want to
start off with something again. I'm adding. This is a
new thing, ignorant thoughts, ignorant moments. When was you ignorant, babe?
And did you have an ignorant moment the past week?
Speaker 4 (03:02):
You know, I did have an ignorant moment this past week.
I was watching a TikTok I believe, and there was
this woman reflecting on Tyler the Creator and Gerard Carmichael.
Speaker 3 (03:12):
I saw all the the Tiler the Creator mess.
Speaker 4 (03:16):
Okay, well what was the other title of the creator mess?
Before I get to my thoughts?
Speaker 2 (03:20):
So the mess was they found listen old tweets again. Okay,
so it was old resurface surface tweets. I don't remember
exactly what they were about this time, but it was
just old resurface tweets that I think, I think we're
kind of racist. As a black man, you can't be racist.
But you know, he has a different fan base now.
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So they were eluding like he ain't never really fuck
with us.
Speaker 1 (03:43):
I don't really, you know what.
Speaker 2 (03:45):
Let me ask my husband real quick, because what we
don't do here is lean into the ignorance. Maybe not
while I have the computer and my husband right here.
Why did the internet be up that you should see?
I take the chat GVT be up set about Tyler's
creator this week.
Speaker 1 (04:04):
You should at least you're using it to stay informed. Listen,
I know people using it well for the memes and
to make bullshit.
Speaker 2 (04:16):
Okay, ghetto all right? So some old posts from Tyler's
early career, mind you asante. These are from twenty twelve
to twenty fourteen. The posts included tweets and other content
from when he was part of the Odd Future.
Speaker 3 (04:34):
One specific park Spark.
Speaker 2 (04:36):
Taylor recently liked a tweet oh my God that critique
his own predominantly white fan base for not properly engaging
with black art, while pointing out that Tyler himself has
many collaborations with like artists.
Speaker 3 (04:50):
Shortly after this, like people begin digging a old contempt that.
Speaker 2 (04:55):
Reflected his edge lord phase, shocked value, offensive remarks, and
distancing from his blackness.
Speaker 3 (05:02):
So yeah, that's what it was.
Speaker 2 (05:04):
I guess he actually was trying to condemn his current fans. Now,
these niggas was like, this nigga got that perfect, he
not that great.
Speaker 3 (05:13):
Let me go dig up with this nigga was thinking
when he's twelve.
Speaker 1 (05:16):
Well, while that nigga was twelve or somewhere in that phase.
Speaker 4 (05:20):
I do believe he says something about something about how
he only liked fucking white guys, and for me, I
don't you know that's not my flavor. This is a
public well, yeah, Tyler the Creator has always been openly bisexual,
I believe, or at some point he came out as bisexual,
but it's known publicly and there's public discourses about him
only being attracted to white men. So fast forward to
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me seeing this Tyler creator on Gerard Carmichael, who I
also had known, and who to the rest of that
series we saw him explore with a white boyfriend and
you know, have sexual trysts with white men. To sit
there and say he had a crush on Tyler the
creator another man. I thought that it was funny and interesting,
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but also maybe a little ignorant that a nigga that
likes white boys found it a tap of posterous that
another nigga that likes white boys would like him like
that whole that whole thing was so weird to me.
So I just had that ignorant moment again watching this
girl on TikTok break it down. She was like, of
course Tyler the creator would find this preposterous, and I
was like, girl, yes, I thought that this was preposterous.
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And then she was trying to break all this down
back the end of it. And you know, I'm a
gay man, so who am I to say anything about who?
You know, who loves who? I think it's just more
crazy that they would openly make these statements as if
you know, I'm a black man, but I date white boys.
This is it's better or something. I'm not sure. It
just always was a little off putting when they would
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discuss stating white boys versus just doing it and keeping
it moving.
Speaker 1 (06:49):
Okay, so what is.
Speaker 3 (06:50):
The same.
Speaker 2 (06:53):
With the gaze as it is just with the streets
In terms of black men white in general, it's still
seen as like weird because for me, like even when
I got from Gerard Kaimichael's like doc or whatever or
whatever you want to call it, it was more around
the fact that more so white gates get to live
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openly more in their truth. And clearly we saw his family.
His family wasn't accepting either. And I assume more black
men have that experience than white men. So maybe it's
just easier to find white guys when you're gay.
Speaker 1 (07:29):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (07:29):
But that also becomes part of the discourse, right, Okay,
when they see Gerard Carmichael in that position, it becomes, oh,
why is this black man sitdering centering his dating experiences
around white men? But that's not what he's doing, right,
He's just having an experience. He he just so happens
to be attracted to white men. So but but I
feel like maybe he even knew that people would kind
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of know he has an interesting relationship with blackness already,
so for him to kind of open it with he's
gonna divulge your question on a black man. But then
all right, well, actually have a white boyfriend, and I
be fucking my boys all the time. It's kind of like,
what did you think that crush?
Speaker 2 (08:03):
Did you think that crush was valid? Like do you
think it was just for the plot to just bring
him in? Do you think it's because I spent so
much time around each other as friends that he started
or do you think one of them answered the other
and it was so good he started a crush because like.
Speaker 1 (08:19):
For me, maybe they messed around.
Speaker 2 (08:21):
Maybe they messed around, and then he was like, damn,
this black decad is so bad. Maybe okay, so maybe
they did. Maybe they did mess around. Maybe that was white.
I was even funnier to Tyler.
Speaker 4 (08:30):
It's like it's like when girls like they don't really
be gay any but girl, you know I do, Like
you know, we just be playing.
Speaker 2 (08:35):
Well, I'm thinking, like, imagine, like you just connection for me,
I think that I have friends that I just fuck
around with. Imagine if I came up to I ain't
gonna say they.
Speaker 4 (08:48):
Names are right now, but I'm so happy because you really,
you really feel in the gap, because I really think
it was something like that.
Speaker 1 (08:55):
Because I'm Tyler.
Speaker 2 (08:57):
If I confess my love for one of my homegirls
I just been sucking on for a couple of years,
they'd be like they right there.
Speaker 4 (09:08):
He said, you want some of my food? Tyler said,
I'm good on all of that over there. Over there,
he is, I am a piss. He knew what he
was saying. You know what he was doing like I
was like, you got.
Speaker 2 (09:22):
The cameras on me, Like I'm even thinking if I
was in Tylland's position, bitch, I would have responded the
same way, like, okay, are you this is for the
cameras at this point, And I'm not even gonna play
into this because I don't want to confuse you because
we're friends.
Speaker 4 (09:35):
But no, bitch, he Tyler didn't even want to make
that a moment. But that was such a moment just because.
Speaker 2 (09:44):
Yes did a little and Billy Bob Tharton on the
way to the to the awards ceremony.
Speaker 4 (09:50):
And ship you feel okay. I thought this was my
ignorant moment. You just took it, so now we should
hear about yours.
Speaker 1 (09:58):
I didn't want to.
Speaker 2 (09:58):
I was just giving clarify. But I also didn't realize
as much that the black and white thing was the thing.
But I saw the Gerard Kaimichael show last year. So
by the way, you're late shocked, you've seen this before.
Speaker 1 (10:14):
Right, Yeah, I saw when I saw it.
Speaker 3 (10:18):
So this was just your thoughts because you went down
a TikTok rabbit.
Speaker 4 (10:20):
No TikTok for whatever reason is just now talking about it.
And I believe it's tied to those comments about Tide.
The creator Resurfacings exacts me having you ask your personal
thing why you're trying to play me and say you're late. Now,
you're late now that we didn't have to catch back
up for your ass.
Speaker 1 (10:38):
I had to watch that shit twice.
Speaker 4 (10:39):
I watched it the first time out of curiosity and
laughed at it, and then for the friend Zone watch
it for the binge. I didn't select the show, and
they were like, did you select it? And shout out
to the friend Zone listeners. They were like, nopecience did
not want to watch that, and y'all, man.
Speaker 3 (10:52):
I actually really thoroughly enjoyed.
Speaker 1 (10:55):
It as it was good.
Speaker 2 (10:57):
If you want to hear the breakdown that Wezi and
I did over on the horrible decisions patroon for it,
you can go over there. We did it at the
cinema and we got it got spicy. I go hold you,
it got spiicy.
Speaker 1 (11:08):
You know what? It was interesting?
Speaker 4 (11:10):
I will say there were a lot of conversations to
be had based off of that show. So even though
it's like talk shit about it, it wasn't because it was bad.
I talked about it because it was interesting. So if
he got another season, I probably still watch it.
Speaker 2 (11:21):
Okay, So it's weird that we're talking about blackness right
now because that is my ignorant moment and I don't
even know how much y'all.
Speaker 1 (11:33):
No, no, no, okay, all right, all right, all right,
but they not true.
Speaker 2 (11:38):
And y'all need to let me mow in then y'all do.
But y'all don't like Biracials. But that's another motherfucker I'll
get into another time.
Speaker 1 (11:45):
Please, that can't help you, girl, I'm sorry.
Speaker 2 (11:47):
I was having a conversation with a friend and they
came into town and ended up getting a rental car.
And if y'all know anything about like what's happening right
now in Atlanta with the government shutdown, and it's already
just a hot mess over there, right, And so I
paused before I said the word that we leaned into
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in this conversation because we started speaking about Atlanta as
a whole, and the conversation was just like this sea
is so fucking ghetto, Like I hate how ghetto it is.
Speaker 1 (12:21):
It's ghetto. It's ghetto, it's ghetto, and it was it was.
I had to pause.
Speaker 2 (12:28):
I had to pause them from saying ghetto so much
because a part of me has felt like I've had
to defend Atlanta even on decisions, decisions because Weezy identifies
it as love and hip hop, and I've had here's
the thing, I've had such a lovely experience going on
the belt Line and all the gentrified areas around town,
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but also there there I.
Speaker 1 (12:52):
Don't remember before the belt Line.
Speaker 2 (12:55):
First off, if you know me, then you do know
too that I did go to high school year so
I lives in Atlanta in two thousand five to two
thousand and six. I came back again and lived here
two thousand and nine Lakeside went to Lakeside Indicators one six.
Speaker 1 (13:14):
Thank you.
Speaker 3 (13:15):
Our rivals were Tucker Shamby Tucker.
Speaker 1 (13:18):
Area was oh my god.
Speaker 2 (13:20):
And then I moved back here after graduating high school
from Orlando, and so I was here from two thousand
and nine to twenty ten, and now this is my
third time in Atlanta. And so it was interesting because
as we were like talking about what makes it ghetto?
I just kept having to like shut away from are
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you using that word because it's a black ass city,
Because in.
Speaker 1 (13:45):
Other we what did you make it ghetto.
Speaker 3 (13:50):
It was the it was the.
Speaker 2 (13:53):
It was the service that that they received picking out
their rental car. Right then he proceeded to say it
the last time I came, the nigga who got my
rental cor uh drove up in my car asking for
my ID in a tank top, Like, why are you
in a tank top?
Speaker 3 (14:08):
Sir? Let me see your ID? Because is this? And
to be fair, I did.
Speaker 1 (14:13):
It's Atlanta gets high.
Speaker 2 (14:15):
Listen if y'all go back to like my first week
living in Atlanta, y'all already know about Sam. Sam Mover
showed his jamaicing ass. Okay, what I hired him to
move my furniture in my house. Now, yes, there's a professionalism,
but I do think that there's unprofessionalism in every city.
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I think people are slow in customer service in every city.
I also think every race is that way as well.
And so literally, I was just trying to pull out
the word ghetto and why that had to be used
for a city like Atlanta.
Speaker 1 (14:51):
But you use that word in those other scenarios where
you experience bad service or other things, not to say
that you apply ghetto to those, right, but you know
how you're saying every city does have slow service or
this or that. Are there scenarios where you're in another
city of another city and after those boxes have been checked,
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you're like, fuck it, this is ghetto Asontai.
Speaker 2 (15:14):
You know what it's giving the difference in use between
a criminal and a thug, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (15:21):
Like a white man that does goddamn mass shooting.
Speaker 2 (15:26):
That's what I'm trying to ask in my mind, because
don't have me admit that I don't use ghetto with
the whites. I don't use ghetto with the Mexicans. I
don't use ghetto with the Dominicans. I don't even use ghetto.
You know where else I don't use ghetto, which is
crazy because I want you all to see why this is.
Speaker 3 (15:45):
Important to me. I don't even use ghetto at the
Jamaican restaurant.
Speaker 1 (15:49):
They just nasty.
Speaker 2 (15:50):
I either were nasty and then my people Jamaican spot,
but the Jamaican spot is in ghetto. They're just nasty
cause attitude.
Speaker 4 (15:59):
So the ghetto is fucking they're running out of shit,
out of goddamn that's ghetto. It's like, y'all, who what.
Speaker 1 (16:05):
It's because it's good. That's why.
Speaker 4 (16:06):
Out of that ship I mean, yeah, exactly, but it's
still a good y' not a purchase up in here.
Speaker 1 (16:11):
You know, I use the word ghetto.
Speaker 3 (16:14):
Tell me how you use it before I get into
the history.
Speaker 4 (16:16):
See, I also don't really use the word ghetto like that.
I feel like I do use it may when do
you use it? But I distinctually remember moments in school
right where white people are be like.
Speaker 1 (16:26):
That scatter that scatter, well white see, I.
Speaker 4 (16:29):
Don't now because of that, I have a I was like,
all right, well, if I'm gonna use ghetto, I'm gonna
apply it across the board, which is why I asked
you straight up, like do you use this in other scenarios?
And if I see a white person, because if a
white person makes me uncomfortable, I will call them ghetto,
like like, you know what type of nigga I am.
I will get in the elevator with a white woman
and I will clutch my bag before she can clutch
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her purse, just to make her uncomfortable, Like that's the
type of nigga that I am. So it's like, if
I'm gonna call some shit ghetto, I will be we
will be up in the stk or somewhere nice as
fucking well, you know they be having niggas up in there,
and you know it's crazy white people. When they're terrible,
I will call them ghetto.
Speaker 2 (17:07):
The first ghetto is now feeling like a hard e
r and I just think we need.
Speaker 1 (17:11):
That's what I'm like.
Speaker 4 (17:12):
I don't really use it for that, like, like that's
what it felt like. So it's like maybe I have
done it, like I'm you been ghetto as fuck right now?
Or that's some ghetto shit, and maybe i'd use it
like nigga, like if I'm using it amongst niggas being ghetto.
Speaker 2 (17:25):
Sure, But do you know where the term get up
derived from? I do not, Okay, Now, I don't want
to get canceled. This is me just reading history, okay,
but she believe this ship started?
Speaker 1 (17:40):
You ready?
Speaker 2 (17:41):
The word ghetto originally referred to neighborhoods where specific groups
were legally or socially segregated. And do you want to
know the first group of people and when it came
about you ain't gonna believe it, bitch. The term came
from the sixteenth century Venus. You ready, We're the Jews
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were required to live a walled area called the ghetto Nuovo.
Later it was applied to other European cities with forced
Jewish quarters, and then, of course here in the Grando USA.
Starting in the early twentieth century, ghetto came to describe
urban areas where Black Americans were concentrated, often because of redlining,
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discrimination and economic inequality, rather than law. I did as too,
because I wanted to make sure I wasn't too ignorant.
I said, ooh, is there a positive way to use
the word ghetto, because I'll be wanting to know.
Speaker 1 (18:48):
So.
Speaker 2 (18:49):
Some people use ghetto positively to highlight creativity under constraint,
for example ghetto or ghetto well ghetto engineering, which which
means making something work with limited resources. In art, music,
and culture, ghetto can be used with pride to express authenticity, solidarity,
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or survival which I don't like.
Speaker 1 (19:12):
I eat ghetto fabulous Yeah okay.
Speaker 2 (19:16):
However, when used by outsiders or informal context, it almost
always sounds dismissive or disrespectful. So I need to ask
the butt community we're doing this here?
Speaker 3 (19:27):
Is it ignorant or not? Are we are we continuing
to uplift?
Speaker 2 (19:33):
The word ghetto is something that we can only use
and is derogatory from everyone else? Or is this not
a part where we might have to had this conversation
about it being derogatory even when we use it to
identify each other.
Speaker 1 (19:46):
Hmm, thank on it. Yeah all right, I'm not gonna
use it anymore. Yeah, it's was it.
Speaker 2 (19:55):
It made me feel like it made me feel like
I was with someone shouldn't be using the inward even
though you know what I mean, Like I'm with I'm
with my homie who's black, and I was like, oh,
I just don't like the word ghetto being described at
being the word to describe a predominantly black city, like
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we can't company, no, no, no, We used it with
each other, but I guess I mixed company literally, but
not me the half white feeling like.
Speaker 1 (20:28):
This is a little have you had to check yourself?
Who's like.
Speaker 2 (20:35):
I don't feel comfortable with this word usage anyways, let's
get into this is America.
Speaker 1 (20:43):
Don't got your chipping off, all right, y'all.
Speaker 2 (20:46):
So on Tuesday, it was reported that a truck carrying
a group of monkeys y'all infected.
Speaker 3 (20:52):
With several diseases.
Speaker 2 (20:54):
Crashed on Mississippi Interstate, resulting in several of these monkeys
being like run a wild escape. Now, according to the
Sheriff's office, the truck was transporting these monkeys from Tulane
University en route to a testing facility in Florida. And
(21:14):
I don't know why anything goes to Florida. I don't
know how anything is getting done in Florida. I am confused.
The monkeys laded approximately forty pounds each, and we're showing
aggressive signs of infection. Y'all want to know what these
things was carrying? Fucking truvid, herpes and hepatitis. Now, as
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of two pm, the last monkey is still on the
loose and this was just reported less than twenty four
hours ago. Of course, handling these monkeys requires personal protection.
But bitch, who knows what they touched, what they bit,
what they ate, what they contaminated since their escape?
Speaker 3 (22:00):
And while scientist tricky, I wanted to have fun at.
Speaker 1 (22:03):
This topic of today. Oh, we're going to have fun.
I want to have fun.
Speaker 2 (22:07):
I want to know first off, your thoughts, because of
course they tried to blame China.
Speaker 3 (22:12):
China. Sorry, I gotta.
Speaker 1 (22:14):
Say China, China, China.
Speaker 2 (22:17):
Well you say that too good, China. So they try
to blame China with the COVID vaccine virus and patient
zero getting out in like, I don't know Guangzou one
of them places out there in China. But now this
is this is tricky. This is tricky. Do you have
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any thoughts on this?
Speaker 4 (22:43):
So the movie Outbreak came out in nineteen ninety five,
Ain't it crazy? It's twenty twenty five. You know there's
still one monkey missing. It sounds like the plot earlier.
You know the comments on the post, they're like, oh,
it sounds like twenty eight days later. I went which
I hadn't seen that yet.
Speaker 1 (23:02):
I know what was crazy.
Speaker 2 (23:03):
All of these movies hit like peak by Rowdy and
went like to the top of Netflix during the pandemic.
Speaker 3 (23:10):
So I watched all these shits.
Speaker 1 (23:12):
So you've seen twenty eight days later.
Speaker 4 (23:14):
Yes, see, we were so for the bench on the
Patreon of the friend zone. I was just about to
make them watch something like this, but I was like, dang,
gonna fuck with those zombies.
Speaker 1 (23:23):
So we ended up watching Blade. But anyway, the fact
that I.
Speaker 4 (23:26):
Just was supposed to have watched this yes the other day,
and then this monkey Outbreak happened, I was like, what
the fuck is going on? And then to see that
it's down to this one last monkey. Earlier, I was like, okay,
because I was trying to figure out which movie plot
we were fitting into, and so so I was like,
outbreak is where we have now lamed because that one
that's missing. I don't know if that little girl is
in the house or hiding the monkey out of the doghouse,
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but we need to really find that shit. And like
you said, all of the plots, Like you said, we
don't know what that thing is doing. We don't know
how many cats or dogs hadn't bid. We don't know
if somebody is trying to ship it, hide and sell
it in the black market. We don't know. We don't
even know if it's leaving my heart. Like, first of all,
this is experimenting on animals thing. Y'all know that we
don't Black folks don't like experiments, Okay, Tusky and environment.
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You know, just none of this sits well with my spirit.
I hope that this monkey is found and whatever happens
happens with it, but I forgot that they do these
types of experiments, you know that animal testing, these viruses.
Speaker 1 (24:26):
I just don't like any of it.
Speaker 2 (24:28):
It's funny because on Tuesday's drop, I did end up
talking about zombies because I just ended up watching the
trilogy of Maize running.
Speaker 3 (24:39):
When I was sick for my.
Speaker 2 (24:41):
Birthday, and so before I get into thoughts about the
pandemic and stuff with you and I guess it relates
to it, I ended up going down the rabbit hole
and had this conversation about whether I would want to
outlive the end of the world and find the zombies
or if I would just, you know, give my body
and be a zombie. And so I wanted to know
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your thoughts on a what three things would you absolutely
miss if it was the end of the world and
we had to fight zombies and then would you just
become a zombie or would you live like really trying
to out them.
Speaker 4 (25:17):
I am getting me either a gun or some arsenic
or some girl. I am out of here. The zombies
cannot have my body. I do not want that virus.
I'm not joint. I'm not gonna fight them. I told
you I need some arsenic okay, or a gun? Okay,
I need a blood.
Speaker 3 (25:35):
Do you think that's gonna last year?
Speaker 1 (25:37):
I only need but what thirty minutes? Maybe because I'm
about to give you a plan. Give me.
Speaker 4 (25:42):
I just need me a blunt, you know what. I
just need me a blunt, some solange and a good
little drink and then that arsenic on the side and
let me just smoke that one real good little or
maybe two blunts. You know, I just want to go
out real cold zombies. I mean, I'm gonna drink that
arsenic and if that poison and get me fast enough,
I'm gonna hit the gun with it, because I got
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to go.
Speaker 1 (26:04):
You got the gun was for the zombies, girl, nigga,
I got I've got to go. And then I was
like artic, like all them zombie movies the way to come, zombies,
be just on that bullshit. I'm not doing. Have you
seen the last of us? Have you seen the last
of us?
Speaker 2 (26:20):
I have? And then I was mad when they killed
my favorite actors like old Boy was oh boy Dad.
I said, well, what we're doing this for?
Speaker 1 (26:28):
I don't want to. I was like it was too early.
It was so early.
Speaker 4 (26:32):
I was like, well, I guess I'm done with this
season because it did take me a while, like I
had to let the season finish.
Speaker 1 (26:37):
And then I was like, all right, let me go
back and watch it. No shade.
Speaker 2 (26:39):
I am a part of the l g B t Q,
I a community, but I did not want to see
kay Lanny and k One be everybody together like that's
what it was given.
Speaker 3 (26:48):
And I was like, I'm sorry, I don't want.
Speaker 1 (26:50):
To see these little two studs like it's the end
of the world. You're gonna pull out the strap right now?
Speaker 4 (26:54):
No, put it away, which there are zombies on the
other side of that walk. I did have Lesbia just
d y'all bitches better fucking scissor and move the fuck
on real fast and y'all can't make too much noise.
Speaker 1 (27:08):
I was so mad. I was so upset. I was
the zombies come, I need to go.
Speaker 2 (27:14):
Let me ask you because they mentioned COVID and I know,
like there's a vaccine and all that, but maybe there's
another threat, you know, virus.
Speaker 1 (27:21):
What is it like a thread? Thread right? Well, because
COVID has never really fully been cured.
Speaker 2 (27:26):
No, well, and there's different very yes, would you at
this moment in time be okay with another shut down
pandemic happening? And do you think we need a reset
or do you think that that would completely crumble us
to have one of those against so soon.
Speaker 4 (27:46):
Uh, you know, it's really hard to tell with the
way things are going with the government. You know, it's
really something that and first of all, COVID was not
something that anyone wanted, right, like it was looking at.
Speaker 1 (27:59):
Well, it's going gone down the rabbit hole.
Speaker 3 (28:01):
But this isn't a conspiracy episode.
Speaker 4 (28:04):
As far as like, you know, our personal us, like,
this is nothing that we wanted, right, Okay, So it's
not something that I necessarily want to happen again because
it's so much loss that occurred from it. But as
far as people needing some sort of reset, because I
felt like KOVID kind of did have like a cultural
reset and kind of reset the way that we did
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certain things like travel for a time, and even as
far as like how we were with our health. You know,
the conversations got a little too personal where we learned
you know, folks wasn't washing their legs, which I guess
is still in.
Speaker 3 (28:34):
The still they're still not washing their legs.
Speaker 4 (28:37):
So you know, these things came up, but it's how
things were handled in the restaurants everywhere, giving you drinks
to go happen.
Speaker 1 (28:44):
You know, they were just like little things I ain't
gonna hold you. I like that, and I'm back up
six feet right right.
Speaker 4 (28:53):
It was just something to have in that space, right,
just to be able to breathe, even to sit on
the plane, like, just little things like that. And now
those things weren't worth the loss to me. But if
something happens again and there's another reset, I don't want
to say I'll be welcoming to it, but I will
definitely try to be understanding because I feel like when
those changes happen, everyone gets so resistant because of the
way that things are supposed to be, because of what they're
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used to.
Speaker 1 (29:15):
But you know, life is hard. America is hard. So
if you have things that kind of bend us in
those ways, then I'm always ready to rise to the
challenge up until some motherfucking zombies.
Speaker 3 (29:25):
Now America is really hard.
Speaker 2 (29:27):
And I did want to bring this up because I
was hoping the government would be back up and running,
especially while I'm out here traveling. But unfortunately, the government
is still shut down, which looks like millions of Americans
are set to loose the Snap benefits. Now Snap Benefits
(29:48):
EBT is food stamps. Now here's some stats for yo
ass but any of y'all who just feel like it
ain't that big of a deal, especially because you don't
receive them. I do want to share that one in
eight America currently receive SNAP benefits. They are funded by
the federal government, which is why it's looking like it
could shut down as early as November first, which is
(30:11):
oh shit, tomorrow. It's saying that twenty two million households
and forty two million Americans are set to be affected
by this.
Speaker 3 (30:23):
This sucks.
Speaker 2 (30:24):
I know that when I was in college, I had
food stamps. If you guys have heard me talk about
my upbringing across any of my platforms, we got food stamps,
we got Section eight housing, my mom got help for
ce with our daycare, and so I'm not sure how
any of those benefits are are set to be affected.
Speaker 3 (30:48):
But this is like, this is tragic. It's tragic.
Speaker 2 (30:54):
I'm hoping to figure out a way that I can
help as many homes as possible. Have you know, food
for Thanksgiving this year? Normally I do give, Like you know,
I'm either working with Instacart or Uber Eats, not working
with them.
Speaker 3 (31:10):
I just let y'all sign in my ship in order.
Speaker 1 (31:12):
Okay, shit, little group water.
Speaker 2 (31:17):
I don't know, I don't know how to help this
because that's just one meal.
Speaker 1 (31:23):
Yeah, it's disappointing.
Speaker 4 (31:26):
It's like one day, it's you know, it's it's a
fucking government shut down, and so not to see that
this trickles down to something so essential as food for people,
you know, for the government. For those workers, they're not
getting paid, but you know, if they're lucky, they might
get reimbursed at some point.
Speaker 1 (31:41):
I'm not saying that they have it good because of that,
because that's some fucking bullshit.
Speaker 4 (31:44):
But for the people, shit that already didn't have anything
and they're using this assistance. And for some of those people,
this was a stepping stone. It was like all right,
let me just you know, try to thug this out
for a week or two and I'll be right back
to it. And now I'm going and no, I'm talking
about for the people on benefit or that decide to like,
you know, let's say you've lost a different type of
job a couple of days ago, and you're like, all right,
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at least I have a little bit of a lifeline
something to help. Now that goes out the window, and
I feel like it sucks, because benefits have always been
looked at as a crutch for people, not as something,
and it's always been framed as, oh, I know so
many people that have used the system that used it, Okay,
Well what about all of the people that have never
had to use the system and they use it for
(32:26):
that first time? Because I'll never forget those those first
times I had to go in and do it myself
as an adult, and I don't know what the fuck
I was doing, because you know, you're so so it's
talked down upon, it's frowned upon, and then for a
period I didn't even need it, so I was like,
all right, well, I liked my little I.
Speaker 2 (32:42):
Think at one point I was getting like three hundred
dollars a month, maybe when I was when I was
in college with my little two three roommates.
Speaker 3 (32:50):
That shit did it for me, babe, girl.
Speaker 4 (32:53):
I had my little when I first moved to New York, right,
it was like two thousand and eight, two thousand, it
was two thousand and nine. In twenty ten or twenty eleven,
the lady I was renting the room from uptown. It
was me, her and her little family. I would buy
food with my benefits. But when I have no restaurant job.
I would put food in the fridge for everybody. I
was like, you know what, let me just go ahead
and put some up in here for everybody, because they
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weren't doing good either, but they weren't from here, so
they couldn't. Or she didn't know how to speak English.
Her sons they didn't. They couldn't do shit for her
to figure that shit out. I'm just a nigger in
the room. I was like, the least I could do
is because I know that this is what's going to
take care of me. But I also could split it
to help them do that. So when they talk about
people abusing the system, if that's a form of abuse,
I will abuse it because food is essential. It's essential water,
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like clothes, to send people to school, to get a
formal education. These things should not come into question.
Speaker 5 (33:43):
Now.
Speaker 2 (33:43):
I don't know if they're abusing the system, but I
did want to shout out to her baby and the
delis that let me get my chop cheese and hot.
Speaker 1 (33:50):
Food, hot food on that car that ship. When they
go ahead, just let that through, thank you very much.
Speaker 2 (34:01):
Also something else, just so that y'all realize how bad
it is. Again, it's often looked down upon within our
community specifically. However, Amazon just made an announcement that they
are letting go of thirty thousand workers then the next
two months, two weeks or two months, and it's due
(34:21):
to they're over hiring during the pandemic for of course
a lot of the remote positions, but also just the
fact that a lot of those positions are being removed
due to AI.
Speaker 4 (34:34):
So you've seen the robots are coming, You've seen the
add for the robots that are going to be available.
There's some robots that are going on the market for
next year available for purchase.
Speaker 1 (34:43):
So if those how.
Speaker 4 (34:45):
Much are they I didn't see the actual price. I
wanted to say it's like thirty K, but I've seen
they had like a lease in plant or something for
like five hundred a month.
Speaker 1 (34:52):
Girled, are you thinking about getting a robot off rip?
Speaker 2 (34:55):
But hold on, hold on, hold on judging what Maybe
it's for research purpose.
Speaker 1 (35:00):
That's search purposes.
Speaker 2 (35:02):
Thirty k is a lot, but bitch, yeah, I can
get it on a monthly, like if you.
Speaker 4 (35:08):
Can get on the payment plan. Right, if you get
on the payment plan, they want to make it consumer available.
So if they're already trying to put robots in home
as early as next year. I'm more than sure that
they're gonna try to go in ahead. And because a
lot of these jobs or these warehouses have like automated
facilities anyway, So by removing the worker, because I don't
remember how the Amazon workers are, but they little workstations.
(35:28):
You know, when niggas be on the phone and they
be at their little Amazon station, their little workstations seem
like it's gonna be a little workstation for a robot
or something.
Speaker 2 (35:37):
Anyway, Basically I can have a live in audit.
Speaker 1 (35:41):
You still like that. That's literally what it's geared towards. Too.
It's supposed to be for cleaners. I want to please.
Speaker 2 (35:49):
I will say, body will attack the fuck out that robot,
but they just gonna have.
Speaker 1 (35:53):
To get a loan. They just don't have to get My.
Speaker 2 (35:56):
Cat is not gonna be here for that robot. But
I would be down for a robot. What you look
up right now? I know you because I won't. It
is it ignorant to care about people losing their jobs
due to AI while also wanting to lean into AI?
Speaker 1 (36:13):
So yes and no?
Speaker 4 (36:15):
Right, So my thinking behind it is I'm leaning into
AI because somebody has to write, like if we all
decide to say no AI is bad, that's one thing,
but there's no okay AI is bad, We're gonna shut
it off. It's AIS bad, but AI still exists. So
in order for us US as a people not to
get left behind, somebody needs to be in there for
(36:36):
those looks how Chrissette Michelle was going to be in
there to have those conversations and start them in the
White House, but it was like, girl, you seeing we
actually need people that have been standing course working in
these systems to understand them. So when we can stand
up and say, hey, we've been saying shut this shit. Yeah,
well it's Jason An another scenario of wrong messenger. That's
(36:57):
what it is. You know that if it's a like
even us podcasting, I think in another country they're trying
to say you can't podcast unless you have a degree,
and then the topics that you talk about, Girl, I'd
be off air right now, or I'd have to change that,
or we'd have to change what we're talking about to
what we have our degrees and versus entertainment.
Speaker 1 (37:16):
You know, I'm good.
Speaker 4 (37:19):
Look, well I didn't put in my my looks, but
I'm putting my ten years on air right It's I've
done my hours, I feel like at this point. But
for certain people it's going to be a different conversation.
So I wanted to show you this clip. This is
not a guy in a suit. This is Neo, a
new humanoid robot for your home.
Speaker 1 (37:39):
My name is Burnt Time.
Speaker 5 (37:40):
Today we're launching Neo.
Speaker 1 (37:43):
Aren't humanoid for the whole.
Speaker 5 (37:44):
Neo is a humanoid companion designed to transform in your
life at home.
Speaker 1 (37:47):
It combines AI in advanced hardware to help with daily
chores and bring intelligence in your every day.
Speaker 5 (37:53):
The Neo you get today will only get better, and
as we keep shipping features, it will be more more
useful in your everyday life. Now, the journey there is
not gonna be I'm not mad, and we're not going
to pretend it's I'm not mad. But as someone who
lives with Neo every day. Now, if this is you
pre order.
Speaker 1 (38:16):
I'm doing it.
Speaker 3 (38:17):
So it's twenty thousand dollars or four ninety nine a month,
but it's only a two.
Speaker 1 (38:23):
Hundred dollar deposit. That's crazy. It's Neo about to be
living with me. Hey girl, not youre gonna have a
neo op and I'm not talking.
Speaker 3 (38:34):
About so sick of love songs. Baby, I'm getting neo.
Speaker 1 (38:37):
I want them. Well, you can have them.
Speaker 2 (38:42):
Now, I would. I wonder if I could train him
with a strap on to be the I knew.
Speaker 1 (38:49):
I knew immediately.
Speaker 4 (38:51):
Look, and it's gonna learn more from new features with
new updates as they roll it out.
Speaker 3 (38:55):
So okay, I gotta teach it a stroke game.
Speaker 1 (38:58):
Oh my Bobby program some things up in there. Okay,
and will I'm gonna make it.
Speaker 2 (39:03):
Watch the certain scenes. I like, watch it and be like,
emulate this.
Speaker 1 (39:10):
To me, girl.
Speaker 4 (39:13):
So yeah, those robots are come in the future is here,
and I feel like that is one of the reasons
why some of these jobs they This is a conversation
that's been happening, right, like, do these jobs coming to
Jeopardy once we have robots and AI? But along with that,
the AI still needs to be trained or taught whatever.
So if niggas have jobs in those higher positions to
train them versus white men, that are just like, all right,
(39:35):
we can fire all these niggas. At least the niggas
can start to be like, let me put on some
more black people in some of the other arenas or
areas where I know we you know, those are human
proof or we can figure out what those spaces look
like as we learn and can overcome these digital achievements.
Speaker 2 (39:50):
I mean, we used to code our MySpace pages. This
is the time exactly to get back into getting that
coding and figure out what type of certificates, notifications and
things are being required and asked of. And you just
need to learn these programs because they need people to
teach these programs as well to their workforce.
Speaker 3 (40:09):
But yeah, I mean I think it's crazy.
Speaker 1 (40:13):
Again.
Speaker 2 (40:13):
Prayers get such that you know what's happening, and I
do hope that this government shut down ends soon. Now
this is a music man crossover, baby, and you know
I love talking pop culture and things and a sante.
(40:35):
Everything a sante has to do with music so much
so when any man even comes into my home, if
we watch YouTube, they have to see a sante's face.
Speaker 1 (40:47):
Yep. And we just had this lessons last time I
was at your house.
Speaker 2 (40:53):
I'm like a sante faith STI we need to change
your profile picture because.
Speaker 1 (40:58):
I mean, just like a tune up there or something.
Speaker 2 (41:01):
Yeah, because oh damn who nigga is this like, I like,
I have to explain you every time.
Speaker 4 (41:08):
I like that I have such a presence in your home.
You know that reaffirms my masculinity. So thank you for that.
Speaker 1 (41:13):
Mind you were.
Speaker 3 (41:14):
Only going to watch Pop the Balloon and.
Speaker 1 (41:16):
Jack exactly exactly?
Speaker 2 (41:19):
Anyways, do you want to kick this off with? This
weekend was like for us?
Speaker 4 (41:24):
Yes, this weekend in Atlanta, One Music Fest happened.
Speaker 1 (41:29):
The great people down at Hot one.
Speaker 4 (41:31):
Oh seven nine special shout out to one of Mandy
B decided to include me in this journey of the
one Music Fest.
Speaker 1 (41:40):
It's held in people My Park in Atlanta. It was
my first time going. I'd never been same, but a
lot of the people that were there I have seen before.
So it was good to be at this new festival,
be out in this new outdoor space and see how
it was run. What is it best?
Speaker 3 (41:53):
I think has been going on for like the last three.
Speaker 4 (41:55):
Years or so, Yeah, maybeeah or so definitely it's been around.
Speaker 2 (42:00):
For twenty four and this was I think the third year.
What's also dope about it is it's the same people
that put on Roots, Picnic and Together Land out of Texas.
Speaker 3 (42:12):
So shout out to Sean g uh.
Speaker 1 (42:15):
Year of one music FESTO.
Speaker 2 (42:20):
Yeah that is wow, okay us the more you know, right,
my first festival in Atlanta.
Speaker 1 (42:28):
Music festival specific I say it does pride count did
not even have about five n.
Speaker 3 (42:36):
No, but it's funny that you brought up the hot
one of seven nine stage.
Speaker 2 (42:39):
So I got to pretty much kick off the festival
off stage with the rest of the ladies from the
radio station and.
Speaker 3 (42:49):
We did the Southern Ladies set gues.
Speaker 4 (42:53):
Mandy b was on stage presenting the Southern the Hot,
the hot hot things happening in at as far as
the ladies are concerned, they said, what did did y'all
put it up there? As for the ladies or the ladies?
Speaker 3 (43:06):
Yep, for ladies only.
Speaker 2 (43:07):
So it was bank road nigh flippity flippity, Kim the
Man Man and Rashida y'all my con you know, okay,
backstory because now I want to have this conversation with you.
So we're on the way, and of course Rashida closed
it out because the conversation with that she's considered.
Speaker 1 (43:32):
Well, do you want to go on order?
Speaker 4 (43:33):
Before we closed it out with Rashida, because I have
you have notes I have, I have notes, thoughts, opinions, feelings, everything.
Speaker 1 (43:41):
Let's do it. Let's do it, so let's let's go
on order. I believe King the Man kicked the set
off right, which.
Speaker 2 (43:46):
Is crazy because guess what or spilling tea. She was
supposed to go right before Rashida. However, people were late,
so we were actually highly ubsept because there was actually
a petition for Kim the Men to close it out
because we felt like she has been doing her little thing.
(44:08):
They felt like Rashida should close it out, but Kim
the Man only went first because other people were late.
Speaker 4 (44:17):
Wow, wow, well, you know what, even with that havn't happened.
Shout out to Kim the Man. King the Man opened it.
She set the stage on fire. Everybody knew her words.
Ken the Man been spitting and her shit still go
so it was hot. Ken the Man been doing her
thing for a minute. So I think that it was
dope that she opened it because it went from her
opening it to Bankro Now was next.
Speaker 2 (44:41):
And Bankro Night pulled the same thing the Future did,
but we'll talk about that later. Bankro n I chose
to open up with the song that everyone knows and
then no one knew really anything else, but go ahead,
we know that knew everything.
Speaker 1 (45:01):
Actually I didn't. I didn't.
Speaker 4 (45:03):
I actually didn't even know who that was when she
got on stage. Okay, that's just how you know. I'm
I'm you know, I'm a visuals person. I know like
she and you know she a hood bitch. They you
know Jeffer freestyles. There are visuals. They just ain't made
their way to my algorithm because you know, the hot
what was it, a world star? They don't do that
shit like they used to. So the shit just don't
hear my algorithm like that. With that said, like you said,
(45:24):
she started off so Atl, I was like, oh, this is.
Speaker 1 (45:27):
Who that is.
Speaker 4 (45:28):
I'm so Atl girl. I was fucking with it right
then she had another song. Was that when that girl
came out? Or did she come out with on the song?
After that, she had a song come out talking about
the truly O my booty. It sounded so ridiculous, but
I wanted a little more. I was like, this sounds crazy,
(45:48):
but I want like I want to I want to
hear this. I want to hear more.
Speaker 2 (45:51):
Right, but even when rapping that, my problem was and
I'm really big with performance all around, not just like
how you engage with the crowd, but you got to
come out looking like you care.
Speaker 1 (46:02):
Right.
Speaker 3 (46:03):
They both looked like they were going to.
Speaker 1 (46:05):
The mall right after. Yes, they did, they did. They did.
Speaker 2 (46:08):
The one girl had all like a squirt, a white
T and some air Force one.
Speaker 1 (46:13):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (46:13):
I was like, but you know it's it's in Atlanta
Music Festival, and Atlanta, Atlanta people are ghetto.
Speaker 3 (46:19):
Don't do this. Why are we doing this?
Speaker 1 (46:21):
Why are we doing it? Just look look to look
to your point. Well, but I'm using ghetto.
Speaker 4 (46:26):
It's good though, Like it's some ghetto shit that I
live for, Like that's the type of shit.
Speaker 1 (46:31):
I didn't like it.
Speaker 4 (46:33):
I like it when people can so I can appreciate
two different things. I can appreciate when things are done
up and they're done extremely well. Okay, I can appreciate
when things are done down but effortless. And it looked
like she was just up there rocking her shit. It
wasn't about her being like, oh I'm gonna I have
to spit like it's my last ship. She was just
up there wrapping like I'm the type of bitch that
(46:54):
gets down like this is and this is what the
fuck I do? And I really felt that vibe during
Find Shit because once Fine Shit started, I ain't never
heard that song, but everybody was running up talking about
calling all the Fine Ship, and I was like, okay,
I heard the Fine Shit. When she was doing Fine
Ship and everybody was fucking with it, I was back
on board. You couldn't know. People did not know the
words to Find Shit, but they was rocking with it.
(47:15):
And so that's the thing as an artist. When you
can find out how your your your artist, or your
crowd rocks with you, then your music begins to improve too.
So I feel like there's a quality there about her.
So that's why I'm fucking with Bankroll nine, you know.
Speaker 3 (47:28):
And then flipp a t what were your thoughts?
Speaker 4 (47:30):
Flippity uh aff the affirmation And what's crazy is I
didn't realize oh sharing more tea?
Speaker 1 (47:39):
Yeah, come on.
Speaker 3 (47:39):
So she was a part of is it summer Jam here?
Speaker 2 (47:45):
It's not Summer Jam maybe Jingle No Jingle Ball is
in December.
Speaker 1 (47:49):
There's another really big.
Speaker 2 (47:53):
Concert that takes place with one of the radio stations here,
and allegedly they had her Anglow on the bill, and
Gloria pretty much said I will not come out unless
she goes absolutely first.
Speaker 3 (48:08):
And it's because she sounds very gloriala is.
Speaker 2 (48:14):
She sounds very much like her kind of like if
I had to compare, it sounds right. Y'all know how
when Panda first came out, we all thought it was future.
Speaker 3 (48:26):
This song affirmations.
Speaker 2 (48:29):
A lot of people confuse it to be a gloriala song,
and it's not at all. So it's the affection, is
the sound, it's all of that.
Speaker 4 (48:35):
I tell you, can I make it because you've said
all of that here now I can admit I did
not know that that was not glorially until that day
because when I heard that song on the stage, I
was like, who is this?
Speaker 1 (48:48):
And they're like, this is her songs and I was
like okay.
Speaker 4 (48:52):
So then mentally, because I didn't really share this with y'all,
but mentally I thought to myself, okay, well where's the
nigga from from Instagram? And then he wasn't on stage,
so then in my mom I'm like, well, this ain't
really her song and is it? And then later on
at one of them activations, I seen the nigga from Instagram,
you know, the nigga that be doing the little informations
of a fat bit. It's like, it's this tall, light
skinned nigga. All he does is just dancing that song.
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Well showed up late too, he did, but girl, he
had I'm gonna show you the video and I want
to see it. I'm gonna show you. He was there
and he had a whole crowd around him, probably more
people around him than when they when she was performing.
Speaker 1 (49:26):
At the stage.
Speaker 4 (49:27):
With that said, people did come back up to the
stage when it was time to close it out because
Rashida finally got her ass out on the stage along
with a bunch of dancers, which I was pleasantly surprised
to see. Rashida runs out on stage. All her dancers
have one of the same boots as her, and the
boots actually are what threw me when she first came out,
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because I was like, why are we wearing?
Speaker 1 (49:52):
Okay? And then I thought to myself as I looked
at the dancers with those boots. I know she's not
trying to do homecoming, but.
Speaker 4 (50:03):
Sir, you know you know the look, Yes, but that
was given. But do you know why, well, do you
know why I say that?
Speaker 2 (50:12):
The only reason why I say that's not what that
is given is because you only love to show up
to Atlanta about once a month for a couple of
days of the month. I will tell you those same
fur boots, bitch can be seen.
Speaker 1 (50:23):
No, not even because of the boots.
Speaker 4 (50:25):
I'm not even talking about because of First of all,
I know that those boots are everywhere with is why
I hate them and why did not want her? Why
are you wearing those on stage? And then you have
them army marching out in the so you know what?
Speaker 1 (50:36):
You know what?
Speaker 3 (50:37):
Hold on to your point, She shouted out as soon
as she got on stage.
Speaker 1 (50:42):
I remember, and I'm going to make that out.
Speaker 3 (50:44):
It was giving boots with the fir.
Speaker 2 (50:47):
She shouted out two thousand and six as her first
record when she started dancing, which was Boots with the
Fur Era.
Speaker 1 (50:54):
Here's that's not when her first record was. But the
she's saying was six because.
Speaker 4 (51:01):
Remember she said she started with uh see, because I
don't remember the set now, I just remember she came
out with the set. She had some oh you it
you it was early like late nineties, this two thousand
you you yes you So it's like she had been
she been doing it. Look because you're like, but that's
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what To her point, Rashida had been an Atlanta girl
for so long, like she'd been one of those girls legend.
The problem is, I feel like there's a consistent there's
something consistent that has to happen right for you to
have reached legend status. It doesn't mean, it doesn't mean
you have to have consistently put out records for a
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period of time, but at least maybe you were consistent
in certain eras or bodies of work. I feel like
those things submit you, submit you in legend status. Maybe
she has, uh, she has had moments where she couldn't
have definitely touched that, but I feel like she has
not because she's had records, she's got the relatelationships. But
then it's like she was a love and hip hop
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and then she just was a TV girl, but like
not even like like how Candy became a TV girl,
but Candy.
Speaker 3 (52:09):
Never transcend the TV for sure.
Speaker 1 (52:11):
But that was the thing.
Speaker 4 (52:12):
Candy became a TV girl, but it's like she made
her mark on the show and then still left the
show with her dignity and I had always superseded, She'd
always superseded it anyway, but like they didn't really believe
her on the show. But then she left the show
and reminded Araby like, oh yeah, she had been that bitch,
and I was like, yes, we had said that the
entire time, but she hadn't really had that moment. It
was like she got clowned on TV, which disappointed me.
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I don't like that bitch either, you know, like I
don't like Ca Michelle at all. But the fact that
this bitch clowned you on TV and now you're on
this stage where you're trying to celebrate your legend status,
but then you're making this whole speech in this moment
about the fact that this bitch had clowned you on TV,
like you yeah, you were removing some of these things.
With that said, because of that whole production of her
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having dancers and her being really hyped that entire set,
the energy was up and her looking so good, I
give her a ten out of ten. We hadn't seen
me personally, but look, Loo, look I just want you
to know that's how fair I'm being with everything that
I just said. From what I saw, I personally give
Bright Sheet a ten out of ten. I give her
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ten out of ten because right let me just finish
this and I give this right over to you.
Speaker 1 (53:23):
She came out high energy. She looks good. We haven't
seen her. We only see her on TV. We haven't
seen her rocking stage. She was rocking stage. She was
dancing with those girls, which you know she don't have
to do choreography, because why we don't know her to
be that. She danced I guess a little bit in
a couple our videos back in the day. But okay,
but for her to be a little bit older.
Speaker 4 (53:42):
And to have rock the stage like that, which we
ain't seen in a minute, I give her a ten
out of ten and then she ends the set with
y'all can come see me in my businesses because she
is a business woman and she's a woman of the people,
the Atlanta people. Thank you for coming to my ted talk.
Now give me all your mess.
Speaker 2 (54:01):
Oh, I ain't gonna hold you. But she didn't get
no more time out of me.
Speaker 1 (54:07):
Baby.
Speaker 2 (54:08):
You just gave a monologue and a ten out of ten.
It wasn't a ten out of ten for me. The
only ten out of ten performance for me on Saturday,
I have to give it to Buster Rhymes.
Speaker 1 (54:24):
Yeah. Sorry. They were on.
Speaker 2 (54:28):
Buss and split killed it. They did it on the
sets for the segment shout out to Black Thought and
the Roots and it was just busses incredible. I did
get to see Buster when he came out at the
Barclay Center for Usher's concert, but he.
Speaker 3 (54:48):
Only did one song, but it was phenomenal.
Speaker 2 (54:53):
Also Kailani, God damn, she looks good as fuck.
Speaker 3 (54:58):
I'll give her a nine out of ten, only because.
Speaker 1 (55:02):
I would have liked dancers.
Speaker 2 (55:04):
Yeah, for for R and B performers when it comes
to them being at a festival, I think it's important.
I mean, she had the sparklers and ship that were
going off, But I really like R and B girls
to get in their bag and give us a one
two because what was crazy is we got a one
two from Pleasure He who looked like, oh I was
(55:27):
going Pleasure P looked.
Speaker 4 (55:29):
Like fifty cent up on stage your pleasure P. I
could not recognize him. I thought he was security. I
was like, is that security? And where's Pleasure P. I
couldn't believe.
Speaker 3 (55:38):
It from from from far.
Speaker 2 (55:40):
Then apparently Sammy left right from one music fest to
beat on some kids, which is crazy, insane, And then.
Speaker 4 (55:51):
He had on and he had on a set that
she didn't. He had on a hoodie and then took
the hoodie off and had on the same type of
hoodie material under as a shirt.
Speaker 1 (56:01):
Mind what we're saying this.
Speaker 2 (56:02):
There is a group that was I guess they came
together called RSVP. Yes, it was comprised of Sammy, Bobby Valentio,
Pleasure P now ray J. They chose to let us
know that rey J not only didn't make it the
sound check, at one point, they were looking for him
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on stage because it was his time to perform. This
is the performance that many of you saw on the
internet where he went into the crowd topless and saying
one wish yeah, and it's just not funny anymore.
Speaker 1 (56:40):
Yea.
Speaker 2 (56:41):
At this point, I get if he's not listening. I
don't see how we continue to have these prominent conversations
around mental health and somebody.
Speaker 1 (56:51):
Is not helping ray J.
Speaker 2 (56:53):
Like the crazy part about it is they didn't even
introduce that Nigga as a singer. They introduced that Nigga
as a streamer. I was like, oh, the disrespect, but
he's just unwell. He's unwell.
Speaker 1 (57:07):
So that was a.
Speaker 2 (57:08):
Disappointment as much as it was that plots chose to
not show up, and I'm not sure why he was
set to be on set.
Speaker 3 (57:17):
My least favorite moment.
Speaker 1 (57:21):
Let me just say this about rs VP, did you wait?
We enjoyed it though together.
Speaker 4 (57:28):
Know we did the songs, the nostalgia we always enjoy.
I wasn't shocked, but I will definitely say my favorite
performance out of rs VP was Bobby Valentino.
Speaker 1 (57:39):
However, the one.
Speaker 4 (57:40):
Thing that made me upset with him was, first of all,
Bobby Valentino as a young child, he has there's a
song called BlackBerry Molasses, black Berry and that what he
was saying. First of all, first of all, you, Bobby,
Bobby Valentino have as a long record in that like
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slow Down era. It's like slow Downs where people like
really got to know him and lived with him. I
remember BlackBerry Molasses, but I still don't marry that BlackBerry
Molasses Boby Valentino to this new BOBBYV. So when he
pulls out on on stage and is expecting the audience
to sing it, sir, if I revisited that song, it
wasn't because I was listening to Bobby V Radio. So
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don't so don't put that part of that set and
get mad. Then niggas ain't singing that like because when
you did, because I'm Bobby, he grabbed me right back,
right because after he did that and was like, I
guess a little disappointed with the audience because I'm sure
it's certain. I'm sure in certain places maybe that that goes.
I'm sure somebody felt like a slave. I'm gonna hop
up here because that was my ship, right, But this
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is when I hopped up like a slave because that
was my ship. When this motherfucker started doing anonymous but
was doing it with the piano. You know, I fucked
with you, Bobby, b but you know you were just
doing the little reprised to reframe a little bit too long.
You couldn't let it go like he was. Don't look
too long at certain like all you can stop now, Bob,
you can. But I enjoyed myself nonetheless during they're set.
Speaker 2 (59:07):
Now, this is where selective ignorance comes in, m because cool,
he could have been hitting those vocals. I I mean this,
and I don't know why we are like this people,
but especially celebrities, which is why it's so hard to
constantly just smile and beyond. So Bobby Valentino has the
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record in my mind for being the rudest celebrity I've
ever met. Two thousand and nine Springbling Spring spring Bling
Baby is South Florida, and I was the the host
for magazine, a special Florida magazine.
Speaker 1 (59:53):
And so mind you, let me tell you all.
Speaker 2 (59:55):
The lineup of the people I remember interviewing. So I
got to interview pretty Ricky Pastor, Troy uh Trina, who
else was there?
Speaker 3 (01:00:08):
Pictures with Carrie Helson. It's that era.
Speaker 2 (01:00:13):
Yeah, two thousand nine spring Bling and I go to
start interviewing Bobby Valentino and when I tell you, it
was just the coldest, rudest, no eye contact. And then
when we were just wrapped, I went to say thank
you and it was just like a like it was
he was the he was and you short, motherfucker. You
(01:00:35):
already don't pitched? I said, you short, run at says nigga,
you already know.
Speaker 1 (01:00:42):
I was like, the.
Speaker 2 (01:00:44):
Nerve you to be this rude and you look like
a fucking miniature chipmunk bitch.
Speaker 3 (01:00:50):
I was pissed.
Speaker 2 (01:00:52):
I was like, I'm never supporting this motherfucker again with
his little five foot three in platform boot. Asked I
I was so even though I said, ooh, he can
kind of sing, I know why he ain't making nowhere,
And it ain't because of the blogs and who they're
saying he sleep with.
Speaker 3 (01:01:11):
It's because the nigga got a nasty ass at its.
Speaker 4 (01:01:14):
Right, Damn, bitch, you like that shit.
Speaker 2 (01:01:22):
But I want to say, and this isn't a fuck
you to him, but my least favorite performance came from
a legend I guess, and I was so confused and
I want to just give him and y'all know I
don't like grace, but I'm extended and say that it's
because they found out that Applies wasn't shown up, so
Project pat.
Speaker 3 (01:01:45):
And see your laugh at already, because did you see
this goddamn.
Speaker 1 (01:01:48):
Sat So I didn't actually.
Speaker 2 (01:01:51):
So y'all, Project chose to get up on stage and
he performed about two songs and mind you, me and
my best friend we're from Florida, like, bitch, you better
be off of this. By this point, Rich Kids had
gone on and done far too many songs.
Speaker 3 (01:02:09):
This was after they messed up. Don't believe me. Just
watch what's his name?
Speaker 2 (01:02:18):
James? So it's Tidad James rich Kid. This was the
Greg Street, Uh.
Speaker 1 (01:02:22):
Stage, Greg Street, mind you.
Speaker 3 (01:02:24):
So then they bring up Project Pat.
Speaker 2 (01:02:27):
This set is only like forty five minutes to an
hour at this point, we like twenty minutes in and
we still got trick. Daddy implies that's supposed to come out,
you know what I mean. So so past Project Pat
get up on stage y'all. In the middle of its performance.
He starts saying, Now, we lost a lot a lot
(01:02:50):
of people this year, y'all. Y'all put a hand up
for everybody lost. I know everybody out here that lost somebody,
and so mind you, we had a festival way to
bring the energy down right. You want to know what
he does next? He says, shout out to the Muslims.
Shout out to the hall. He shout out the Muslims.
(01:03:10):
Then he shout out the Catholics. Thing he say, but
I know the real ones is Christians, bitch. He starts
shouting out the Christians. Then he says, we're gonna pray
to God. I need y'all to repeat after me, bitch.
He goes into a full on prayer at this fucking festival.
Speaker 1 (01:03:30):
Bro.
Speaker 2 (01:03:30):
So, I'm looking around and world just like this is
Project Pat and whoever he had up on. Say, mind
you in between all this, they talk in prison reform
and I'm like, this is not a Ted talk like
we are at a festival, so bitch, he got a
whole audience in this prayer and we all looking around
like we can't believe this. Like this nigga makes everybody
(01:03:53):
say amen, and guess what song proceeds? What chicken chicken
brock brock chicken head. And I'm like, now everyone saying
bob headed, scalled way, ain't got no handa bad weed,
uh jailed up yo, And I'm like, we just prayed.
Speaker 4 (01:04:18):
Now you know what I'm gonna. I'm gonna go ahead
and take that on this way. That's some nigga ship.
Speaker 2 (01:04:23):
But Doug, I was like, this can't be real. I
will say uh uh trick.
Speaker 3 (01:04:31):
Daddy did come out after that, and then, unfortunately.
Speaker 1 (01:04:34):
Applies your old blast, he never.
Speaker 2 (01:04:36):
Showed up, which I was really sad because I would
have loved to see him perform Pretty Pussy, even though
I doubt.
Speaker 1 (01:04:42):
It was on the playlist. Are you familiar with Dondrea?
Speaker 4 (01:04:47):
Yes, oh that's the stage you went to. So I
did make my Oh you know what, let me let
me dial it back.
Speaker 1 (01:04:53):
A little bit right.
Speaker 4 (01:04:54):
So when I first got there, you remember because you
said something about the boy Cands the festival. On day one,
it opened with the Awakens on that same stage.
Speaker 1 (01:05:03):
I saw a little bit of them when they came in.
They were really good.
Speaker 4 (01:05:05):
But then I went over to that other stage that
you was on, that Greg Street had all that stuff
going on later to see Flow.
Speaker 1 (01:05:12):
Oh I missed Flow. How were they now? To be real,
you didn't miss anything. Now.
Speaker 4 (01:05:17):
I don't know if it's because they were going early
or what, but they were they were half dance. They
weren't really dancing. They which is you girls are a
girl group? Like you have no excuse you. You literally
that's the only thing we want you to do.
Speaker 2 (01:05:31):
I saw the backstage and they looked good as fun.
Speaker 4 (01:05:34):
They did look good, but while they were on stage,
just like they were giving they just weren't giving that
much energy. And to be real with you, Kilanie, how
you gave her a nine out of ten? I give
Kilanie a ten out of ten only because yes, I'm
mad that she didn't have dancers, but the fact that
she didn't even have a voice that day she said
two hours ago and had no voice. So the fact
that she got that shit together within two hours and
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still came out there and had me wrapped around her
mother fucking.
Speaker 1 (01:05:57):
Finger the entire time.
Speaker 4 (01:05:58):
She's a beautiful sounded good, but it's like y'all sound
good enough to be half dancing, like y'all dance. It's
like y'all half dancing and y'all half singing. So I
ended up walking away in the middle of their set.
That's how Flow did not keep me. So those were
the two stages that we would discussed. The reason I
wanted to say that is because I went over to
this other the Toyota Music then. So this is a
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smaller stage, but it was really where they had to
Toyota cars parking a little stage up there.
Speaker 1 (01:06:24):
Yeah, but it was cute. It was cute. Dondrea she
out there, she performed. She's also performed on that stage, and.
Speaker 4 (01:06:31):
He performed later and I missed because he literally performed
right up to Dondree. But I miss him because I
didn't run back over because I want to be oh,
because l A was performing and you know, I focused
on But Uh, Dondrey, she sounded good. She actually had
uh she just had announced that she got married. So
congrats to her for that. She has new music out,
So shout out to her and the music then, and yeah,
(01:06:53):
shout out to me. Missing to Mina because I did
want to check him out to see what the fuck
you know, I want to see what that was about.
But going back over to uh while a while they
did his thing, everybody was going up for him.
Speaker 1 (01:07:05):
He did. He ended with love this flower Bomb, which
no shade, I really want to hear that.
Speaker 2 (01:07:09):
I love that song. I'm not gonna I'm not gonna
spend too much time here. But Saturday, the Dungeon Family
went on stage. Boy, uh do I realized, are you gonna?
Speaker 3 (01:07:25):
Are you gonna do my ignorance?
Speaker 1 (01:07:27):
Maybe go ahead, it's your ignorance, you tell me.
Speaker 3 (01:07:31):
I don't know what we're gonna say. Two things.
Speaker 1 (01:07:36):
I have two thoughts.
Speaker 2 (01:07:37):
Two thoughts only on the Dungeon Family, and the first
one leads into my own geographical age ignorance. Goodie Mob
came out as a part of the Dungeon Family, and
you know, my best friend was like, you know, oh
(01:07:58):
you know Goodie Mob. I said, yeah, girlel like any
other night you would be at home, right, No, me
was gonna win on.
Speaker 1 (01:08:06):
Apparently that's Bob Yeah, which leads me.
Speaker 2 (01:08:09):
To say, I am unfamiliar with you know, y'all's early
nineties hip hop. I just am sorry. At that time,
I was listening to Spice Girls, Backstreet Boys and in Sync.
Speaker 3 (01:08:22):
Now aside from that, they put on a lovely performance.
Speaker 2 (01:08:28):
And when I say they, it was se low uh,
sleepy sleepy Hollow.
Speaker 1 (01:08:34):
Right, and sleep.
Speaker 2 (01:08:36):
Brown whatever we'll sleepy Hollow where I came up with
dead the Sleepy Brown and Big Boy, And the only
thing that overshadowed it was what the hell they're doing
legally and how Big Boy is able to just sing
all these outcast records without the presence of Andre three
(01:08:57):
thousand and so that was just like outcasts is not outcast,
Dungeon Family is not Dungeon Family without an Audre three
thousand and so it got me to think of Assant,
you and I actually missed this weekend. We missed cash Money. Yeah,
we missed it. And no limit to what I hear.
Speaker 4 (01:09:20):
On my timeline one, which they were you are you
surprised by that?
Speaker 2 (01:09:24):
Yes, most of the podcasters, most of the people, most
of the online Twitter streets.
Speaker 1 (01:09:30):
That I followed, they thought it was because you know.
Speaker 2 (01:09:32):
Of course, because if you could include Wayne Nikki and
Young Money cash Money, it was like supposed to be
a home like the plan slide.
Speaker 1 (01:09:44):
Well, yeah, when you put it like that, it should
have been. It should have been.
Speaker 3 (01:09:47):
And so for me to watch the Dungeon family.
Speaker 2 (01:09:50):
And know of that to be outcasts and to not
see I would have took Andre with his flu I
would have took him just going across.
Speaker 4 (01:09:59):
It's like anything to celebrate the name Outcast should always
involve both. So for me as a as an Atlanta person,
well for me as an individual, I can't speak for
all of Atlanta because the thing is people fuck with
both of them for very different reasons. Yeah, you know,
as a collective for whatever reason. So for me, I
love the fact that Big Boy is still able to
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be out here work and I love the fact that
Andre is still out here working and doing different things. However,
because we had that moment, I looked at you and
I was like, I feel uncomfortable, just feels uncomfortable hearing
an outcast song and only seeing Big Boy up on
stage and knowing that the little Andre three thousand parts
parts that really you know, like spoke to me on
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certain songs, I'm not gonna be able to hear those.
Speaker 1 (01:10:44):
So it's like, now, wait, wait, wait, let me ask you.
Speaker 2 (01:10:47):
Milania has a clone and Jeremiah had a clone going
on stage.
Speaker 4 (01:10:52):
No, no, no, absolutely not no.
Speaker 1 (01:10:56):
This neeeds to be.
Speaker 4 (01:10:57):
It has to be a scenario where Andre three thousand
as a say or okay in it. So it's like,
all right, okay, Like I don't actually know what their
setup is, right, so let's assume their setup is, you know,
you can perform the outcast songs. I just don't give
a fuck no more cause I don't you know, I
don't like your ass that much, or or I'm doing
whatever the fuck I'm doing right. But let's say at
some point it becomes hey, when you go out and
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perform my song, our songs, I actually want you to
take this AI hologram with you or some shit, and
my verse is gonna play so I can get my.
Speaker 1 (01:11:27):
Cut too, can get my cut, Like you know what
I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (01:11:29):
I don't know, Like if something like that is implemented
and we have behind Andre three thousand hologram that is
branded or given to us through his channel, cool, I'll
take that. But when I see big boy on stage
and Sleepy Brown back him up. But I hear outcast
song and I don't see or know that Andre is
coming up, just saying I don't like the way that
(01:11:51):
this is moving Sleep back to Sleepy Brown. But to
your point earlier about the mobs, now that you say it,
I don't know what Atlanta or Georgia's thing it's with
the mob because Field Mob, I believe, was from like Albany, Georgia,
So it's like, and then you remember Crime Mob, they
were from ellen Wood, So it's like Georgia got a
thing about the mob, and I don't know what it is,
(01:12:13):
but I guess. I guess it started with the Goodie
Mob and then from there we went down to the
fields and came back with the crime like I don't know.
Speaker 1 (01:12:18):
Also my deep.
Speaker 2 (01:12:24):
Yep, yeah, we don't have to do a breakdown of
all the mobs one day, y'all, y'all help us with that.
But also I would if any of y'all had done
the deep dive or know of the backstory.
Speaker 3 (01:12:36):
And legalities with the Dungeon family.
Speaker 2 (01:12:39):
I'm interested in the link. I'm ready to go down
that rabbit hole. And then I guess the last thing
or to the last thing well in with two.
Speaker 1 (01:12:48):
Is shut out.
Speaker 2 (01:12:49):
Jasmine Sullivan did a performance on Sunday in honor of
her late mother, who passed away three years ago.
Speaker 3 (01:12:59):
It was her birthday, and boy did she have us
all weeping.
Speaker 1 (01:13:03):
It's funny because.
Speaker 3 (01:13:04):
She's amazing vocals though, and we watched it in the rain.
Speaker 4 (01:13:06):
It's funny because you had mentioned, uh, project pat bringing
the mood down, right, Jasmine Sullivan changed. She didn't bring.
She didn't bring the mood down. She actually like uplifted
and changed the landscape of the festival while I think
the rain, Yeah, like while it rained, we all like
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felt the presence of her mother with her, Like a
lot of us were getting emotional, and I felt weird
being emotional with y'all right there because I was like, well,
you know, they're actually jazmin people, so like maybe like
this is the moment, but like Jazzmine was delivering it
so beautiful. It felt like it felt like poetry in
motion at such a crazy moment. And that montage in
the back behind That's what.
Speaker 1 (01:13:46):
I was gonna say.
Speaker 2 (01:13:46):
Don't put no song over a video with someone being
happy and they don't They're not with us.
Speaker 3 (01:13:51):
Anymore.
Speaker 1 (01:13:52):
Oh my god, I was. It was. It was too much.
Speaker 3 (01:13:55):
It was and I had never met this woman, but
just seeing, you know, the emotions coming from Amanda and
An tonight, I was just like, I feel it like
it was a lot.
Speaker 1 (01:14:05):
It was a lot, it was, but it was beautiful. Nonetheless,
I did.
Speaker 2 (01:14:08):
Just want to give one more tidbit to anyone listening.
You happen to be a part of the Futures Campion,
thank you little notes.
Speaker 3 (01:14:20):
I don't know if to thank you or something you
need to change, baby.
Speaker 2 (01:14:25):
It was a thank you for me because on Saturday.
Let me tell y'all what happened. So Future is the
headliner of Saturday Night. And I'm sorry you're only getting
us talk about the headliner for Saturday because we did
not make the headliner for Sunday. Sure we were done.
Now the headliner for Saturday Night was Future. Let me
(01:14:47):
put this into perspective. The first stage started at twelve o'clock.
Future went on at nine point thirty and was ending.
Speaker 3 (01:14:56):
At ten pm.
Speaker 1 (01:14:59):
So fast.
Speaker 3 (01:14:59):
Well, ends of the eleventh grown folks.
Speaker 1 (01:15:02):
Been out all day, all day.
Speaker 2 (01:15:05):
So my homegirl want to see Future perform real bad,
And I'm like, girl, do we have to put my
phone dot so I said, okay, I got some time
to change it. But bitch, as soon as we here
March Madness, we out.
Speaker 3 (01:15:23):
Why a nigga come out to March.
Speaker 4 (01:15:24):
Madden immediately, immediately, immediately. Look, we was in two different
areas having the same dilemma because I was I was
literally standing there like I wonder what's gonna happen first,
But when I hear March Maddness, I know I could
go there.
Speaker 1 (01:15:42):
He ran back.
Speaker 3 (01:15:43):
I said, oh, you're giving us time to walk out.
Speaker 2 (01:15:46):
I appreciate you, no bideous, So whatever the fuck your
name is.
Speaker 3 (01:15:52):
Goddamn. I don't know whose.
Speaker 1 (01:15:55):
Decision it was, but thank you.
Speaker 2 (01:15:57):
But to have March Maddness as the Ferk song that future,
I don't know if that was a fuck you to Drake,
I don't know what it was. Maybe he felt like
it was a throwaway song future. I'm here to tell you,
bab no, that's the song we wanted bad, that's the
song we want.
Speaker 4 (01:16:17):
I was born in March. I will always go up
for March Madness. That will always be the one. I
don't know how he's gonna top it, if he ever
needs to top it, but like you said that the festival,
it's a long ass festival. We went from stage to
stage all day until that ten at night, and so
for real, for real, I was really done on day two.
Speaker 2 (01:16:37):
I really was so doesn't even we didn't even get
to the festival to like four o'clock on day two.
Speaker 1 (01:16:42):
Literally maybe we was done. Literally had a Q high
and by with Ari.
Speaker 4 (01:16:46):
Lennox got to Jasmine Sullivan who came back out for Ari,
came back.
Speaker 1 (01:16:50):
Out for Jasmin said you didn't come out for Jess.
That was so cute, you know that?
Speaker 4 (01:16:54):
Watch seeing Dochi sing Milan Darling shout out to Milan
going her motherfucking thing?
Speaker 3 (01:17:01):
Why did I? Oh, I know why I forgot Joe
she be never mind.
Speaker 1 (01:17:05):
But yes, the festival all in all is I loved.
Speaker 3 (01:17:10):
That was a side joke.
Speaker 2 (01:17:11):
That was not She's one of my favorite rappers right now.
She can do no wrong in my eyes. She princess
baby from Florida.
Speaker 4 (01:17:18):
Okay, Florida girls, beautiful, bomb looking girl Sunday close.
Speaker 1 (01:17:25):
Absolutely absolutely me too.
Speaker 3 (01:17:27):
This was a really festival. I thought they did a
fabulous job.
Speaker 1 (01:17:31):
Yeah they did. It's organized very very well.
Speaker 4 (01:17:34):
Like I like how the I like how everything was
sectioned off, and I like how everything there was space
for everything.
Speaker 1 (01:17:41):
Pete, My park is a big ass park. It's a
lot of park.
Speaker 4 (01:17:43):
But they had a lot of vendors, They had a
lot of places to get drinks, and it was easy
to get.
Speaker 3 (01:17:48):
Back from the stages.
Speaker 2 (01:17:49):
But what I also loved is the sound didn't bleed in.
This was probably the best sound I've heard from any
festival I've been to. And this is no shade to
any of the other festivals, but the sound at this
festival was pristine. Even the artists, the singers, the rap,
everything was a one hey. So shout out, shout out
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to everyone who attended one music fest. It was a
key cute qute cute time. And I do think it's
one of the last festivals of the year because bitch.
Speaker 1 (01:18:17):
Is getting gold. Oh yeah, time to hang in.
Speaker 2 (01:18:21):
Let's get ready for the holiday parties. Hide okay, get
them dresses, get the swede, the velvet, get it out, fellas, ladies.
We read it for the holiday party.
Speaker 1 (01:18:31):
Baby.
Speaker 2 (01:18:31):
I'm ready to go to all these company holiday parties
that I don't work at.
Speaker 3 (01:18:36):
Invite me, I'm there.
Speaker 4 (01:18:37):
I want to go shoot if y'all out there. Y'all
got some holiday parties. Y'all need us at go ahead,
hit us.
Speaker 1 (01:18:42):
Up pite.
Speaker 3 (01:18:45):
Anything else for uh.
Speaker 4 (01:18:48):
No that man that literally does it. We hope you
all enjoyed this one, this recap of the one music fest.
Thank you so much for inviting me, Mandy b it
was such a fun time.
Speaker 3 (01:18:56):
Or as well, bitch, you can't get out.
Speaker 2 (01:18:58):
I know we went over, but you're not getting out
yet because we got one more thing to get to.
Speaker 1 (01:19:02):
Okay, well he can cut that part from my po
oh yeah, no, god, I doubt.
Speaker 2 (01:19:10):
All right, we are going to get into the last
part of this show. Uh.
Speaker 3 (01:19:14):
This letter was selected by us.
Speaker 2 (01:19:17):
By the way, y'all know, if you want to send
in your letter, send it into Selective Ignorance pot at
gmail dot com. We want to figure out if you're ignorant,
if you're not, if this is the dilemma that most
people feel like they had to go through, and what
about it is ignorant or yes you know so Asanta,
do you want to do the pleasure of reading it?
Speaker 4 (01:19:36):
Or sure I read it? Come on, all right, all right,
am I ignorant? For applying to jobs from my roommate?
I a forty one year old female have a roommate.
It's a forty year old male that I've known since kindergarten.
It's basically a brother slash family at this point. We
have lived together off and on since our early twenties,
and when I bought my house ten years ago, he
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moved in and has lived lived with me since last December.
He lost his job and he hasn't worked since then.
He did get unemployment for a while, but he didn't
give me any of that money for rent or bills.
I pay all the bills, including his cell phone, and
buy all the food slash groceries. Girl, Why did you
get to be paid his cell phone bill?
Speaker 1 (01:20:17):
Sorry, let me get back to the letter. I got
my thoughts.
Speaker 4 (01:20:20):
He is currently in school, and I tried to be
patient with him with the whole job thing because I
know it's hard out there. I ended up getting a
second full time job to pay the bills and make
ends meet. I've also had to borrow money from people
to take out loans. But here's the thing, I know
it's hard out here. I know it's hard out there,
but he wasn't getting any interviews anywhere. I was under
the assumption after unappointment ran out he was applying to
(01:20:42):
anything he could, but I don't think that's the case.
He was very specific. He has this very specific job
he wants to do remote remote. He doesn't want to
talk to people. The problem is, though he doesn't have
a degree for the types of jobs I think he wants.
He has done the data analyst slash software engineer stuff
in the past, but it was a company he worked
for a long time and worked his way up into
(01:21:04):
that position before being fired. I don't trust that he
hasn't only been applying to jobs he wants, not jobs
that he needs. My day job sometimes has a bit
of downtime, so I told him to send me his
resume and I would apply to stuff for him. That
way he can concentrate on school, which he seems to
always be stressed about. Since I've started applying to these things,
(01:21:24):
he had numerous interviews. They are mostly customer service things,
which is what his job history. What his job history
primarily is, and I don't think he throw it about that.
Yesterday I was talking to him about two interviews he
had this week, and he was in such a bad
mood and was being snippy with me. I asked him
what was wrong. He said it didn't matter. I asked
if he was mad at me, and again he said
(01:21:45):
it didn't matter.
Speaker 1 (01:21:47):
I that okay.
Speaker 4 (01:21:49):
I could see him being upset, thinking I'm overstepping, But
I am drowning here. I worked nineteen hour days. I rarely,
if ever, have a full day off. I'm having going
to figure out how to pay all the bills. And
on top of that, he rarely picks up or does
anything around the house while I'm gone, even though he
is he is home all day. I feel like I'm
being taken advantage of, like he assumes I'll just figure
out how to pay for everything and he doesn't have
(01:22:10):
to worry. He has started donating plasma for money, but again,
none of the money is given to me. He uses
it for his cigarettes and energy drinks. His money is
his money, but my money somehow has to be our money.
So am I ignorant for applying the jobs for him
because I desperately need him to get a job, any job?
Speaker 1 (01:22:30):
Okay? The roommate has been uneployed for ten months and
hasn't paid any bills. Am I the asshole for applying
for these jobs for him?
Speaker 3 (01:22:37):
Because I think he's only flying for his dream jobs.
Speaker 1 (01:22:39):
Now, first off, this your manual manual manual manual? Girl?
What girl?
Speaker 2 (01:22:46):
This is not just your roommate. Girl, you here's the thing.
You're in love with this.
Speaker 1 (01:22:53):
Man because what are you doing?
Speaker 2 (01:22:55):
And he knows it and is a hobosexual taking advantage
of your kindness and the fact that you love him.
You didn't say it here because right now you're going
through a phase where you're maybe finally trying to open
the fuck up, and you may just be upset at yourself.
That's why you're referring to him as a roommate. But girl,
you are in your forties. You have lived together on
(01:23:16):
and off since your early twenties, and he, even when
he was unemployment, didn't put towards, no money for the
rent or bills. And you pay all of the bills,
including your cell phone, anybody, all the food and groceries.
That's your man, or your child that you didn't birth
out your kouchie, it's.
Speaker 4 (01:23:34):
Her child that she didn't birth. And I don't know
why you decided to sign up for one. I don't
know why.
Speaker 1 (01:23:40):
This is one thing.
Speaker 4 (01:23:41):
Okay, So here's the problem. Right, you are a nice person,
we get it. You're so nice, but now you have
nice yourself into some bullshit and you have to figure
how to get out of it. So are you going
to nice your way out of it? Because the easy
way is to tell this motherfucker to get the fuck
out your house. You are the one that decided to
take on their responsibilities, and now you're upset that they're
(01:24:02):
not giving you money.
Speaker 1 (01:24:03):
And they haven't been giving you money. This is like
when people because at this point pissses me off. That's
the only reason I'm sharing it.
Speaker 4 (01:24:08):
This is like when people are like, if you catch
someone cheating you, or like, if my partner catches me cheating,
they better let me cheat in silence. Whenever I've heard that,
I've been like, what the fuck is wrong with you?
But this is that type of scenario where someone might
hear her and they're like, well, shit, if you want
to get taken advantage of, bitch, keep getting taken advantage of.
Like that's kind of how I feel because the fact
that they have stayed with you. You decided, oh yeah,
(01:24:30):
let me pay your phone bill, oh yeah, let me
apply to jobs for you, and they're getting an attitude
with me. But you're still trying to extend yourself to them,
or you're not saying, bitch, you better fix your attitude
before I tall you get the fuck up out my house.
Speaker 3 (01:24:40):
Like period, because that needs to be the motherfucking response.
Speaker 4 (01:24:43):
But respond because y'all, like you said, that's your man,
your man, your man. You probably are like coim in
law married by now wherever you at like that, that
probably is your husband or something like you have. You
literally have a whole liability in your household.
Speaker 1 (01:24:56):
Girl, bro, he.
Speaker 3 (01:24:57):
Lost his job last November.
Speaker 2 (01:25:00):
Bitch, we approaching November now, so it's been almost a
year that he's been unemployed, and maybe unemployment is only
thirty six weeks.
Speaker 1 (01:25:10):
And he's not to the way things are.
Speaker 4 (01:25:12):
He ain't getting it back, so he's spending money on
cigarettes and UH and energy drinks.
Speaker 3 (01:25:17):
But to even be.
Speaker 2 (01:25:18):
Getting unemployment of any type of money and not put
towards any biliting, girl, he is playing in your motherfucking face.
Speaker 1 (01:25:26):
And and here's my thing.
Speaker 2 (01:25:28):
I think the ignorance in this is you misflabeling this
man and that's it. You referring to him as your
roommate and living a delusion because you have to be
there's nothing about the entire first thing. We've known each
other since kindergarten, him basically even being a brother of family.
At this point, y'all heard me want to talk about
the Tammy Roman incident. Bro, fuck family and this nigga
(01:25:52):
not even blood.
Speaker 3 (01:25:54):
Kindergarten. He's not even your.
Speaker 1 (01:25:56):
Family because your actual family is not doing this to you.
Speaker 3 (01:26:00):
Guess what a person will do only what you let them.
Speaker 4 (01:26:03):
Yep, that's it, sorry, girl, some people you have to
when people are like, let him fail on their own
or whatever. You're gonna have to let that man fail
on his own when you when you kick him out,
he's probably gonna do so well. And you go, my damn,
So that nigga was all right, you know what's crazy?
Speaker 3 (01:26:16):
That is exactly what be happening too.
Speaker 1 (01:26:19):
He's literally just doing he's bullshit because yep, it.
Speaker 2 (01:26:23):
Because he can't if you push that nigga out and
make him go do whatever he needs to do in
order to get on his feet.
Speaker 3 (01:26:31):
Oh, maybe he's gonna.
Speaker 2 (01:26:31):
Find a job immediately, right and he doesn't guess what
you're gonna go do, go find another.
Speaker 4 (01:26:37):
U literally that and and that's just something you have
to be okay with, girl, because you don't want You
don't want this anyway. You have grown dependent on the
fact that now you have this leech. But you want
this leech to stop sucking blood out of you.
Speaker 1 (01:26:50):
You can't. If you keep a leach, you gotta keep
giving it something. So girl, you gotta let this go.
Speaker 4 (01:26:56):
That's that's why I brought the both the cheating in
silence thing, because it's like, this is a scenari where
you ain't You probably aren't fucking him like. That's why
I was like, they probably are not even fucking like.
She probably is just unfortunately stupid enough to be letting
some grown ass, weird old man live in her house
because it makes her comfortable just to have a brotherly
like or something like that. Maybe she can even just
look at girl, It is.
Speaker 1 (01:27:15):
Not worth it, girl, It is not worth it. Any
who at your big age, at your age forty one
who don't like either.
Speaker 2 (01:27:23):
Oh well, if you want to know if you're being
ignorant and how, please send your letter over to Selective
ignorance pod at gmail dot com so we can read
it here and I can tell you about your motherfucking
ignorant ass self. Any who assante, where can the people,
support you, listen to you and all the things.
Speaker 4 (01:27:43):
You can find me personally on all socials at heya
Sante that's h E y A s s A n
te or if you want to hear me podcast, I
have one with two other friends called the friend Zone.
That's the friend Zone podcast, which you can find anywhere,
anywhere and everywhere.
Speaker 3 (01:27:58):
Because them niggas been doing this for like a leven year.
Speaker 2 (01:28:00):
Okay, okay, maybe doing it for a real long time,
real long time.
Speaker 1 (01:28:05):
Yes, y'all.
Speaker 2 (01:28:07):
Make sure y'all support everything that he does. And I'm
gonna try to snooky still get some more time obile.
Speaker 1 (01:28:16):
I'll come back. You know what I mean?
Speaker 2 (01:28:18):
You know, as always, thank you guys for listening to
this Friday drop. You already know you could check us
out that Selective Ignorance every Tuesday wherever you listen to podcasts.
Speaker 3 (01:28:30):
Make sure you have on over to Patreon as well.
Speaker 2 (01:28:32):
If you want to see this full video, it is
over on Patreon at patreon dot com. Backslash Selective Ignorance
Baby and other than that. Yeah, my book is out,
I'm on radio. I'm doing ship with everything, but not
let me stop. I'm like I got Dick to our
lines are y'all, I'm happy all right, Well anyways, thank
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you guys. This has been hold on, hold on, I
got my little outro saying and I have it ready.
Speaker 3 (01:29:01):
But this is where conversations matter.
Speaker 2 (01:29:04):
Okay, wait, controversy thrives home something else in conversations about
God damn it.
Speaker 3 (01:29:10):
We all Bye bye.
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