Ep. 10 | The Elements Of Privilege feat. Syd & Reeezy - Selective Ignorance with Mandii B

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
It's your girl. May d b back?

Speaker 2 (00:02):
Get it again with another episode of selective Ignorance, the
pod where we question everything, even the things we think
we know, while also talking about the selective outrage, because
y'all got that shit too. Today we are talking about
the word that makes everybody tense up.

Speaker 1 (00:19):
Privilege.

Speaker 2 (00:20):
That's right, baby, we talk about privilege. Now, before you
roll your eyes, stick with me here one little bit. Okay, Well,
we hear privilege. We usually think of it like something
that you kind of should be ashamed of. But what
if we look at it a little differently? What if
we admitted that every type of privilege comes with pros
and cons And some of y'all out there are blessed

(00:41):
in one area and struggling in another. So think about
it pretty privilege. Yeah, you might get the free drinks,
the job interviews, the good looking men, but how often
do people underestimate you just because of how you look?
And we've talked about patriarchy, so I'm not gonna do it.
But privilege also comes with higher risks of being sexually assaulted.

Speaker 1 (01:06):
We don't talk about that enough, though, do we.

Speaker 2 (01:08):
All Right, let's get into then, the socioeconomic privilege you
got the money, you got the access, but it also
means dealing with fake people, pressure to stay successful, and
sometimes the.

Speaker 1 (01:19):
Guilt for what you have.

Speaker 2 (01:21):
Maybe how many of y'all made more money during the
pandemic and feel bad for even sharing that?

Speaker 1 (01:26):
What about white privilege?

Speaker 2 (01:27):
That's what we all know about, and listen, we're not
denying that it exists. But does the experience of that
privilege look the same in every country? I don't know
if y'all know, but the Asian population is actually the majority.

Speaker 1 (01:42):
Look it up.

Speaker 2 (01:43):
I promise you also not to start the pot, But
is there such thing as black privilege? Like? Can there
be advantages to the culture, the creativity, the resilience we
build because of what we've survived. Can our community or
our influence of our voice be kind of a privilege
in itself? I don't have all the answers, and that's

(02:03):
why we're here today to break it down. I got
my good friends with me, Sit and Reezie, and today
we're pulling it all apart, no holes barred. Literally, make
sure you get your book, because sometimes privilege looks like
a blessing, but sometimes it's actually a burden, And sometimes
it's both At the same goddamn time.

Speaker 1 (02:21):
Let's get into it, all, right, guys.

Speaker 2 (02:24):
Today's episode, I want to talk about something that some
of you guys have made negative and I'm not sure why,
because technically it should be positive. Right on today's episode,
we're talking about privilege. Now, there's a hierarchy of privilege.
There's white privilege, there's gender privilege. You see, I didn't
say black privilege, but there's all of these privileges under

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the sun. And what happens is when we go into
talking about it, we make people feel less than for
having those privileges.

Speaker 1 (02:54):
We bring up the entitlement around it, we bring up
all the things.

Speaker 2 (02:57):
However, I want to let y'all know that I want
to be as privileged as possible in my life, and
I don't know why you want to bring up that
it's a negative thing. Today we're going deep into it
with my two good friends, and I'm really excited because
we're gonna dig into the higher ky.

Speaker 1 (03:16):
Of privilege essentially.

Speaker 2 (03:17):
Essentially, now y'all know, I'm also joined with only one
of my producers today, a king, because Jason has the
Puerto Rican privilege to show up late.

Speaker 1 (03:27):
Not sure why. Look, Okay, he's not micd up. He's
on the back.

Speaker 2 (03:31):
He might be yelling to his aboila, but I'm not
listening to him today.

Speaker 1 (03:37):
You know what I mean, y'all.

Speaker 2 (03:43):
I'm also joined by Sid and Reezie, the host of
Mess where they dive into the mess that is life
on earth and try to make sense of it all. Hey, guys, now,
I want to say that they also somehow have late privilege. Well,
I don't know where we land who gets late privilege,
but baby y'all have it because y'all just show up

(04:04):
late everywhere. I don't know what the time privilege is, bab,
And I think you have to also consider the amount
of work that I put into being late to get
to the level that I am at now because people
don't expect me to do.

Speaker 1 (04:18):
How do you work towards late privileged?

Speaker 2 (04:20):
Girl?

Speaker 1 (04:21):
You know, the only time I was early was when
I was born. I came and you too. What's up
with the late privilege you got?

Speaker 2 (04:32):
I mean, it's New York City, we're just blaming, okay,
so that's geographical privilege.

Speaker 3 (04:37):
Actually, you know the ubers, they show up when they
want to. Somebody's getting you know, hit by a train,
or are jumping in front of the train, homeless people, like,
first of all, what is the rush we're gonna get there?

Speaker 1 (04:49):
Like I feel like exactly, buses in two lane? What
the wheelchair? The wheelchair? Nigga trying to get on the bus.
I don't take the bus, but I'm just saying for
those who do. Now I'm excited privilege.

Speaker 2 (05:03):
I'm excited to have this combo with y'all because I
think there's so many elements of privilege that I think
we all exude or that we all like to call
out for people that we would never have it, Like
we none of us would ever have white privilege, and
I don't. I don't like many now my mind, Winter day,

(05:28):
we're not doing this, y'all know, y'all know I do
not have white privileges. I have never in any environment
been able to claim or be white, even though I
am a biracial is blix Like, excuse me, ma'am, No
one has been. When you have a blazer on, they
don't you different.

Speaker 1 (05:46):
I don't wear blazers.

Speaker 2 (05:48):
And then as soon as I open my mouth, it's
like they hear the blackness.

Speaker 1 (05:52):
Don't do that.

Speaker 3 (05:54):
One of those white women that have like the long
swoop that date black men were John and Kate place
that is I can see it.

Speaker 1 (06:04):
First off, I'm a black woman.

Speaker 3 (06:08):
Okay, if you don't have white privilege, you definitely have
thick privilege.

Speaker 1 (06:11):
You got that, So.

Speaker 2 (06:12):
Thick privilege is not a thing. There is no saying.
First off, you're adding categories. Now, wait, privilege is not
a thing. How many times you've been absolutely some times
you've been to the All Star Game?

Speaker 1 (06:23):
First off? How many times? How many times? How many
tricks have you taken and you didn't have to pay?
How many? Wait? Privilege? Yes, we do this. Yes, the
nerve to hip to waste ratio. No, no, no, that's
not a privilege. It is a privilege. The privilege. No,
I have been like people have like fat shamed me

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my entire life. Think just became a thing if we
really say, in the last seven thousand seven years.

Speaker 2 (06:54):
No, no, no, just because yeah, with the BBL era and
this isn't natural. No, no, as a natural thick girl.
Uh uh, there's no privilege here. Like my pants don't
like it takes I have to go multiple sizes up
to get baggy pants. No privilege here, brag, No privilege here.
Now you skinny girl privilege.

Speaker 1 (07:13):
I can't wait to be ho in the black culture.
Absolutely not. It's like you need to eat, what's going on?
You sick?

Speaker 3 (07:20):
You sick, what you're going through? Spressed, That's all those things.
I've heard it all.

Speaker 2 (07:28):
So so I believe in Like, and we talked about
this on an episode with Meryl, like that fat phobia
is a thing. Skinny shaming is not you're saying it
is just within our community.

Speaker 1 (07:39):
Skinny shaming, it is a thing. It's a whole thing.
It was a whole thing on TikTok.

Speaker 2 (07:43):
They try to drag me on our podcast because I
was like, I like me and skinny, and they were like, City.

Speaker 1 (07:47):
Was like you really gonna say that? Wait a second,
so now we can't be happy with our side.

Speaker 2 (07:52):
You say that you're happy to be thin, they will
drag you on TikTok Like that's a privilege.

Speaker 1 (07:57):
Check your privilege? What huh?

Speaker 4 (08:00):
I mean?

Speaker 2 (08:00):
I believe so skinny to me is a privilege, Like
skinny privilege exists, especially like growing up five seven nine,
it didn't even go to ten, you know what I mean?
Like there were actual stores made just to keep us out,
Like why was I twelve and people telling me to.

Speaker 1 (08:15):
Go to Lane Bryant, Like, what are we talking about?
You know what I mean?

Speaker 4 (08:18):
Like, I'm sorry that metabolic privilege no, but a metabolg.

Speaker 5 (08:28):
No.

Speaker 2 (08:29):
But like like in terms of the fact that when
we talk about the standard of beauty.

Speaker 1 (08:35):
It was always someone thin, it was always skinny, like.

Speaker 3 (08:38):
There hasn't in white people. That has never been a
thing for the blacks.

Speaker 2 (08:44):
As Tyro Tyra was Babe, Tyra wanted them girls to
be thin until she thought she got a thick bitch
and it was just a car with big tip.

Speaker 3 (08:53):
Yeah. Seeing the car in person, I was like, wait,
hold on, now, I've been duped, I've been tricked.

Speaker 2 (08:58):
We've eve do now, y'all just threw a whole bunch
of different privileges that we weren't gonna talk about because
thick privilege.

Speaker 1 (09:04):
Is not a thing.

Speaker 3 (09:04):
Okay, you want to say while you have all what
you're going on in them jeans, don't listen, don't.

Speaker 1 (09:10):
Do it right, Okay.

Speaker 2 (09:11):
The video holes, Hold on, the video holes back in
the day were skinny, slim, They were slim, and then
one day I don't know what happened. I don't Jalo
booty fell out of a limo or something, and they
were like, oh, we just want ass. You know what's
crazy about that task? I found out her role in Selena.
She had butt pads in she If you look at
really Jlo, Now for back in the day, where was

(09:35):
the ass?

Speaker 1 (09:36):
The ass was actually not there like our minds believed
it was there.

Speaker 2 (09:38):
You don't know, it's not our minds, it's white people
that were like, she got a big ass because they
loved a paper plate booty. And then Jalo came out
and they were like, oh, hefty, hefty, hefty. Nothing that
white people say is big is actually big.

Speaker 3 (09:51):
And also the camera does add ten pounds today that
it dude, you know what I mean? And Jalo is
not tall, so in the proportions it was given big
on camera it was, but.

Speaker 2 (10:07):
I mean she had that to my last it was
to the floor, to the windows, to the wall. Okay, Well,
I do want to read the actual definition of privilege
so that we could have some jokes, but some real
dialogue around it, because like I said, I want to

(10:27):
exude all the privilege I can in this world while
knowing that I am still not privileged.

Speaker 1 (10:33):
Just a little bit, just a little bit okay.

Speaker 2 (10:35):
So privilege is a special right, advantage, or immunity granted
or available only to a particular person or group. So
privilege refers to a certain social to certain social advantages, benefits,
or degrees of prestige and respect that an individual has
by virtue of belonging to certain social identity groups. So

(10:56):
we know that there's microaggressions. We get that from white
people to people, microaggressions from skinny people to flat people.
I did want to lean into where we believe we
do have privileges and why, and then I want to
talk about our disadvantages as well. So let's start with
you said, okay, based on the list here that we have,

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and I do want to run them down because I
would love for y'all listening to figure out where you
may exist within these privileges. There's pretty privilege, light skinned privilege,
white privilege, status privilege, gender privilege, sexual orientation privilege, and
age privilege. These are as well as geographic and educational privilege.
These are like the main categories. So of those, go back,

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go back up. I want to know where you believe
you exist and why, what your privileges is.

Speaker 1 (11:45):
Beach m h. I guess I'm just gonna say pretty privilege.

Speaker 3 (11:52):
Okay, But that didn't happen until later on in life,
Like growing up, I was like not considered cute at all,
Like as a baby, elementary school, middle school, high school,
I was a brick, considered a brick.

Speaker 2 (12:07):
At what point did you exist in pretty privilege until adult?

Speaker 1 (12:12):
Like, how did you know? Oh, this is pretty privilege?

Speaker 3 (12:16):
When I got to college, I went to school with
a lot of white people, and I was like the
only like black.

Speaker 1 (12:22):
They kept calling me Gabrielle Union.

Speaker 3 (12:24):
They kept calling me the girl from Pharrell's video front,
and that's privilege.

Speaker 1 (12:29):
I was like, that is so good.

Speaker 3 (12:31):
I said, white people are crazy because they can't see
I look nothing, look nothing like those thank you?

Speaker 1 (12:38):
Actually wait, the girl from the uh I was just
fun at that time, yes, but no not in What's
Your Master? Or I look like her?

Speaker 3 (12:48):
But no one said that in Harlem because they were
like they knew exactly who she looked like, you know
what I mean? But yeah, in college, you know, I
went to the cool parties. I was always and like
hit up for like the dope stuff. So but it
was in terms of white people. It was always connected
to whiteness.

Speaker 2 (13:05):
You never felt like you're pretty privileged existed in your
own community.

Speaker 1 (13:10):
Not at that time, Not at that time.

Speaker 3 (13:13):
I mean, if you look through the photos, I was
with the blankitos all the time. It was me in
a huddle with white, white white white, white, don't want
to white.

Speaker 2 (13:24):
Why didn't you feel that same pretty privilege with your
own people?

Speaker 3 (13:28):
I was really skinny, didn't have that boy, I didn't
have I didn't have titties, ass, nothing like. And there
was an issue with complexion for a while, just growing up,
just like I don't know what year it was, but
people wanted more darks than women before the most time

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it was light brights.

Speaker 1 (13:53):
You know, where did you Where did you grow up?
I grew up in Oakland, California.

Speaker 2 (13:58):
Oh, Okay, which is crazy because going to California was
the place, and it's probably why I hate LA and
all of that shit so much.

Speaker 1 (14:07):
When I was bigger, I felt like, fuck, how loud
I was? Fuck how pretty?

Speaker 2 (14:12):
I thought I was a bitch, was fat, and I
wasn't getting in nowhere like they don't like thickness on
the West Coast and even coming to New York, and
at first I didn't feel like until the BBL era
showed out.

Speaker 1 (14:25):
Then I was like, ooh, Starlet's wants me in there?
This is real.

Speaker 2 (14:29):
But like to me, I only got the privilege of
my curves being in the South, which is the geographic privilege.

Speaker 1 (14:36):
We'll talk to later. Reezie.

Speaker 2 (14:37):
What about you, I know this is a whole list
of it for you. What's all your privileges?

Speaker 1 (14:42):
Geographical privilege? I think that's it. You don't have no
other privilege.

Speaker 2 (14:48):
I think being in New York, being from New York,
being raised here, being around people who do what they want,
that's a privilege. Being around people who are like, uh,
free minded and creative, that's a privilege. Cause if I
was in the A square state with no lakes and
no rivers and no waterfalls, you.

Speaker 1 (15:04):
Got the Hudson here.

Speaker 2 (15:05):
That's that's count That counts of what Manhattan is. A
is an Ivand I'm saying it's all.

Speaker 1 (15:14):
Right.

Speaker 2 (15:14):
I'm just saying the landlocked states, the people are like
less educated. Listen, I don't you know the Red States,
the Trump States, they be kind of dumb.

Speaker 1 (15:23):
You know, I don't know where that is.

Speaker 2 (15:29):
Lake Lake Lanier isn't Atlanta, which is crazy because you
saying that me moving now, and it's so crazy because
I'd be referring to I'm like, oh, baby, I'm being
a bubba belt. Everybody be going to church on Sundays
instead of brunch. Well they do brunch after, but like
it's just a different thing. And I literally say, in
terms of my sexuality and how I'm able to live lifestyle,

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I literally give it all to being in New York
for my primitive years.

Speaker 1 (15:53):
Like I moved here at twenty one, left to thirty four.

Speaker 2 (15:56):
Like being here throughout my entire twenties, I don't think
I experienced going to a dungeon or a sex club,
or getting to like be with women so freely open
her even going down to the village and hopping to
different gay clubs.

Speaker 1 (16:09):
Like that's that's a privilege that New York that New
York warrants.

Speaker 2 (16:13):
Yeah, New York privilege is absolutely a thing or geographical privilege.
I mean, I mean, yeah, you have pretty privilege, because
I do.

Speaker 1 (16:23):
I have pretty privilege now.

Speaker 2 (16:25):
But like just like Sidney, when I was younger, I
was not, you know, regularly, I had a gap, I
have bracist, I was real skinny. My brother was like,
you know, if you're real skinny, you might not get
your period. I was like, he's the dumbest person I know.
But I heard that, and I was like, oh, I'm
not gonna lie. That would have made me happy.

Speaker 1 (16:45):
I'm never gonna bleed every month. I'm never gonna be
able to get when.

Speaker 2 (16:49):
You're when you're fifteen, sixteen, seventeen, and everybody else has them,
you like, let me get a tampon to you don't
need it. You're just like you just want to feel
like one of the girls. And so, uh yeah, I was.
I was really skinny, and my hair was always kind of.

Speaker 1 (17:05):
Like what is that?

Speaker 2 (17:08):
But uh yeah, I think as I've gotten older, I've
gotten cut and literally every day I wake up hotter
than the day before. And now I figured out how
to do my makeup in a way that like accentuates
what I have and people be like god, and I'd
be like, but anything else on there. So I want

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to challenge something. Do you not believe you have sexual
orientation privilege as a straight person?

Speaker 1 (17:34):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (17:35):
No, I think if you're straight in twenty twenty five,
that's gay.

Speaker 1 (17:38):
No no no, no, no no no no.

Speaker 2 (17:40):
Right now, when I talk to people, especially like younger,
like the generation right below me.

Speaker 1 (17:45):
They'd be like, you straight and I'd be like yeah,
and they'd be like and I'm like, well, you know,
I'm queerer jacing.

Speaker 2 (17:52):
You No, no, no, no, no, this is this is
this is because you're in New York.

Speaker 4 (17:56):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (17:56):
And I actually, for people listening, I look this up
and I want to talk about I want to lean
into actually having the conversation around sexual orientation privilege, because
where many people may not know that being straight or
hetero gets you way more privilege. I do want to
read through some of them and then feel is, Oh,

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if you want to say no, that's this is a
conversation I'd love to have, especially because you do not
identify as hetero. I do not identify as hetero, and
I think that when you do, people are blind to
their privilege as being heterosexual. So examples of heterosexual privilege
include public display of affection. Heterosexual couples can openly express

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affection in public without the fear of harassment or violence.
Marriage and family. Hetero heterosexual individuals are often assumed to
be natural for marriage and family, and their rights in
that area are often taken for granted. Media representation, which
we've actually been seeing more queer representation in the media,

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but still when it is, it's like, oh, they trying
to put an agenda on us, So it's still not
even accepted. Also, in terms of workplace, this is interesting.
Heterosexual individuals may not face discrimination or harassment. I've also
leaned into and I'll be honest, when job applications used
to ask.

Speaker 1 (19:21):
I'm not even putting like I've actually not.

Speaker 2 (19:24):
Put my first off, I don't think it's a job's
business at who I'm a job is asking Oh no, no, no,
they're asking, oh yeah, they ask your sexual identity on
job applications applic Hey, girl, where's the last time you.

Speaker 1 (19:36):
Applied for it? I mean, no girl on LinkedIn? No, no, no, no, no,
it's been a wow.

Speaker 2 (19:41):
I mean but even as me wanting to be a
producer like Paramount, Like there's companies I've applied saying you gay.

Speaker 3 (19:49):
I my my my girlfriend is gay.

Speaker 1 (19:54):
She she looks my girlfriend is gay. Yes, she's gay.

Speaker 3 (19:58):
She looks gay, like shears a certain way she dresses
so that you know, she's more accepted around like all
these straight white men. And it's a thing like she
they all it's one of those things that it's unspoken,
like she doesn't talk about it, but they like, I mean,
you can tell about your shoulders you gay?

Speaker 2 (20:18):
Well, no, and I know we've had a conversation even
on even on decisions decisions where it's like during the holiday,
there's nobody cares.

Speaker 1 (20:27):
You could bring.

Speaker 2 (20:28):
An abusive, cheating ass man to Thanksgiving Day dinner, but
bring a woman and now you actually have to think
about you know what I mean, but your roommate to
thank guzziness exactly. They don't even acknowledge that there's a
romantic relationship there or that it's serious. And oftentimes when

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you're queer, you're even questioned as to whether you're just
going through a phase or not. So as a straight person, though,
no one questions if you're with the opposite sex.

Speaker 1 (20:59):
They're like, oh, you found love, you're in a relationship.

Speaker 2 (21:01):
There's a privilege to being able to exist in a
relationship with the opposite sex that people who date the
same sex don't have. But have you met man, it's
not really always a privilege.

Speaker 1 (21:13):
You know, it's like he's here.

Speaker 3 (21:16):
Still, like, it's not it's not a it's not a
it's not a privilege considering how terrible they are. But
you know, you don't have to worry about going to
a town or random place or like even Jamaica, like
me and my girlfriend when we went there, she was
like not holding my hands. She was like yeah, no, pda,

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no nothing because she's like homophobia. No, no, Jamaica's be gay.
They all don't.

Speaker 1 (21:44):
Like bat boys, but it's batty boy. I'm curious.

Speaker 2 (21:49):
Do you think that there's a lesbian privilege over gay privilege?
Like you being a gay woman, do you feel like
there's any privilege that you get over the.

Speaker 3 (22:00):
Yes, certainly, certainly. I do believe there is like a
hierarchy in that. But I mean overall, if somebody don't
like gays, you should be scared, you know, especially if
you're not familiar in the place of the town or whatever.
You don't know how they're gonna act or what they're
gonna do to you, and you have to be It's
the same thing with blackness. It's like sometimes you just

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can't hide it, and if they feel a certain way,
they can act on it.

Speaker 2 (22:25):
And see that's the crazy thing being like, bye, I
don't experience homophobia because.

Speaker 1 (22:31):
Hetero men live it. They'd be like ooh, I get
two girls at once.

Speaker 2 (22:36):
And so it's weird because in terms of even how
we realize or see homophobia, even within our own community,
it's more so towards men and masculinity. I don't really
see it as much towards women, but of course not
I don't also publicly date and exist.

Speaker 1 (22:56):
It was in Jamaica with her girlfriend.

Speaker 2 (22:58):
She not trying to be the test object to see
how cool they are with Let's listen, I'll catch you
when we cross whatever that ocean is where jam is.
I want to ask both of you before this next one,
because this one is gonna be a hot take. Okay,
do you believe in educational privilege?

Speaker 6 (23:19):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (23:19):
People who are dumb vote bad. People who are smart
and can read good. You know, they make decisions based
on what they know.

Speaker 1 (23:29):
Do both of y'all have Did y'all go to college
at all? Do y'all have degree? Fortunately? Okay?

Speaker 2 (23:34):
See, okay, so we might all have the same take care.
I was so proud to have my two bachelor's degree.
I got to I got to BS in accounting and
then a BBA in business administration.

Speaker 1 (23:48):
Focus them listed.

Speaker 2 (23:52):
Both of them are now but now and so I
know that, like, and we're millennials, so growing up, it's
like you go to school, you get your degree, and
then you like it's it's a thing to have completed
your degrees. And now they look they look good on
my shelf. And now we do this and I ignore
Sally made when she calls me. But the thing is

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down that just fuck my goddamn credit.

Speaker 1 (24:17):
Oh damn really counting.

Speaker 3 (24:19):
But you know what it really is. I think college
is about It's about the network. It's about what That's
why sororities, fraternities are so good because you stay connected
and when it's time to get jobs, you have these
people for references.

Speaker 1 (24:31):
They're recommending you for other things.

Speaker 3 (24:33):
The NYU Princeton, all those big schools. I mean literally
there's so many people in uh in acting and writing
or whatever. They went to those schools and they're helping
each other get into these rooms and auditions and the privilege.

Speaker 1 (24:47):
Now the directors, we all went to the wrong school.

Speaker 2 (24:50):
Yeah right, it's who you know, not what you If
I went to n YU, I would have an egoch
right now.

Speaker 1 (24:57):
Which I went to. I was in the Bronx. I
mean it me to e Y Goldman Sachs. It did
a little something.

Speaker 2 (25:02):
But now that I'm not there, it's like, Okay, it
looks nice on my on my mom's wall.

Speaker 1 (25:09):
No, it's in my shelf.

Speaker 2 (25:11):
By the way, I am now the age that my
mama said, you want this box the trophies or if not,
I'm gonna throw these bitches away because I moved about
five different houses and it's just a mess.

Speaker 1 (25:21):
Trophies you have. First off, don't do that. The athletic privilege.

Speaker 2 (25:26):
I know you can't tell that I did. I did soccer, volleyball,
track and field and basketball.

Speaker 1 (25:35):
No overachievers, I am, you're really doing a lot. I'm
over cheap, you know what I mean.

Speaker 2 (25:39):
I knew I didn't have uh status privilege growing up.
I knew I didn't have white privilege growing up. So
to me, I felt like I had to excel and
do everything. Like I was just telling someone in here
I was in chess club. I was like I did everything.
I was like, let me, were you good at chess?
The people listening one of good at chess?

Speaker 1 (25:58):
Was it? Even Queen's camps?

Speaker 2 (26:04):
Like like a part of me growing up, like my
my dad was in construction, my mom was in nursing
and she was a tech forever because she couldn't get
past the goddamn math courses to get her degree to
become a well she's an LPN now, but like they
both just did these blue collar jobs. And to me,
I'm like, if I want to leave Florida, if I

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want to do anything, I at that point thought I
had to show up to school on time, which is
why I hate you bitches to be late, because I
was a perfect attendance as bitch, so was I.

Speaker 1 (26:34):
You know, growing.

Speaker 2 (26:36):
But I thought order in order to experience any sort
of privilege outside of maybe yes, the light skin privilege
that all acknowledged later because.

Speaker 1 (26:46):
I get later. Why later, I mean, what do you mean?
I mean, I don't say like skin privilege on the
thing that.

Speaker 2 (26:57):
There there, I didn't see what my our skin eye
you you know what's crazy. So kind of like what
you said where you experienced pretty privilege within the white
community but not the black community. I only experience pretty privilege,
and maybe because of my size in the black community,
never in the white community. I've never been hit on
by white men, even if a white man like it

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wasn't until I moved to New York and even their
pickup line was. But I think it's because of my
size that I've never been attractive to white men, because
they like dinner dinner types.

Speaker 6 (27:32):
So they put more water in it battery.

Speaker 1 (27:36):
They you know, especially in the South, right.

Speaker 2 (27:41):
But also I'll be honest with you, and and I
don't know where we where it stems from. Honestly, I
know that there's self hate in our community. I know
that black men don't even steer all the way white
until they go to these pwy's, until they're in those spaces,
where as soon as they have access to white women,
they take it. I don't know where the light skin

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privilege within our community comes from.

Speaker 3 (28:04):
Slavery, Oh, because they had the house, Sally, I'm gonna say,
Thomas Jefferson, Oh, because they were they had the house access.

Speaker 1 (28:12):
Is that what it was?

Speaker 2 (28:12):
I just think it was during those times like black
people were so yuck that the lighter you were, the
closer to light you were, the more attractive and appealing
that person was. And so that just trickled down. Even
that just trickled down even for us as girl. I
know you, I know you watched the NBA draft, right,

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but it'd be white girls.

Speaker 1 (28:34):
No, no, no, no, I'm sorry. It's the players. Now.

Speaker 2 (28:37):
All the players are mixed. That's why they're not as cute.
I'm not even gonna lie to you. They're all not
as cute. They all got the same curly hair. They
all got the same you know, foot shaped face. You
know what I mean, they got the tiny light LATINX
mom or you know whatever, mom and black basketball playing

(28:58):
dad And I was watching the draft, which is crazy
because in terms of even our own community, light skin
privilege is only really associated to the women. I don't
think the men. I just know men get light skin privilege.
Drake is light skin privilege. How is Drake light skin privilege?

Speaker 3 (29:18):
I think because when he first came out, it was
like he's he wasn't cute, he was he was wed,
he was odd looking, but somehow he he slit in
his weight in his way in.

Speaker 1 (29:29):
And was that not talent privilege? Are we gonna talent?

Speaker 2 (29:32):
Are we gonna say that Drake only got here because
of light skin privilege?

Speaker 3 (29:36):
I mean, wasn't he in de Grassi? That was that
was like skin privilege, that was Canadian.

Speaker 1 (29:40):
They let him sit the whole time too. He was
in a wheelchair, if.

Speaker 6 (29:44):
He applied a job his name before you even meet him.

Speaker 1 (29:46):
Aubrey is the.

Speaker 4 (29:51):
Degenerate ship that you might think of us, Aubrey Graham.

Speaker 2 (29:56):
Really, I mean, even if you look at and this
is gonna become virtual if you look at Tyler Perry.

Speaker 1 (30:02):
Movies, right, the it's always the same.

Speaker 2 (30:05):
And mind you, I've maybe seen like three Tyler three
or four Tyler Perry movies.

Speaker 1 (30:09):
The girl is always you.

Speaker 2 (30:12):
Know, she she's dating a dark skinned man who's nasty
to her, and he's mean to her, and maybe he
hits her one time and or you don't go to church.
And then the guy that she falls in love with
is a light skinned guy with fussy braids who is
a construction worker.

Speaker 1 (30:28):
Her right call a job. But he's good the okay,
But this is just Tyler Perry's mind.

Speaker 3 (30:35):
No, that's not his mind. It's a lot of people's mind. Really,
it's narrative.

Speaker 2 (30:40):
The way that they cast black male actors is like
that to the dark skinned dude is a Nigerian scammer,
and the light skin guy is you know, a friend
of the best friend of the main character. You know
what I'm saying. They do it in TV. They do
it in film. Light skin male privilege is a thing
like safe, you're safe black?

Speaker 1 (31:02):
Oh, safe black? Okay black. Even look at Chris Brown
and Jonathan Major's Oh is this what we're doing? Yes,
what we're doing? Okay late, but we can't prepare it.

Speaker 2 (31:14):
I'm curious with how you view the difference in treatment
between both of them, because Chris Brown has been black balled,
still is to this day.

Speaker 3 (31:23):
Oh he's black, bald, he's on tour and he's charging
one thousand dollars for a meet and greet, one thousand.

Speaker 2 (31:29):
One eleven dollars and eleven cents to the exact. Let
me yeah, one, I love you so Chris Brown. And
what's crazy is he not a fan of Jonathan Majors.
But I think there's pretty privilege.

Speaker 1 (31:41):
There, not light skin, dark skin privilege. That's a pretty
privileged thing. They do be calling Jonathan Major's a slaves.
The civil rights they said he got but they said
he looked like what are they called it?

Speaker 2 (31:57):
No, I'm curious to know your breakdown into how you
receive the differences to be treated between the treatment of
Chris Brown and Jonathan Majors because of whatever privilege one
holds over the other.

Speaker 3 (32:08):
Like Jonathan Major, this white woman, we don't who is
she who? Like, yes, I'm I'm against domestic violence all
of that stuff, but we we don't know who this
white woman.

Speaker 1 (32:21):
Is Rihanna, that woman.

Speaker 3 (32:28):
He was able to physically attack her.

Speaker 1 (32:31):
And still have a job, many jobs.

Speaker 3 (32:34):
He's still features, travels, he can go into places. Jonathan Major.

Speaker 1 (32:38):
I haven't even seen him on a to b No. No,
it's out now Magazine Dreams, Magazine Dreams, and it looks good.
But it's on two.

Speaker 2 (32:46):
Breen movie theaters and movie theaters. It was bought by
actually zeus the way, Okay, that's the way, Now I
do I do see? Okay, So then do you take

(33:07):
this completely back if he goes back into the Marvel
universe and even uh, Michael B. Jordan stood up and
was like, if there's a Creed four, I would like
to play alongside him as well.

Speaker 3 (33:16):
Again, well, that's male privilege, that's mal that's just like
it's just male privilege.

Speaker 1 (33:21):
That's male privilege in that sense.

Speaker 3 (33:22):
But Chris Brown, I feel like he had a hard
time for maybe a couple of years with Jonathan Major's
I don't know, I don't know if he can recover
from them.

Speaker 1 (33:30):
I mean, he's he.

Speaker 3 (33:31):
That's why he's trying to do the whole rebrand. I'm
a married man.

Speaker 2 (33:34):
Do y'all know if any are there any celebrity women,
because people who hits, who hits their partners outside of
who was it the Johnny Depp and oh Amberhard's.

Speaker 1 (33:46):
Dumping his bend, that's white women for you.

Speaker 2 (33:50):
But but what's crazy is even on that the audience
was swayed either either way, Like you had a lot
of people that still wanted to not look at the
hole that she was, the abuser that he was as well,
like they were both abusing each other essentially.

Speaker 1 (34:03):
Well above white.

Speaker 3 (34:04):
That's probably and they come from they stem from that.

Speaker 1 (34:09):
The Evil City said, it's within them, it's in the DNA.

Speaker 3 (34:15):
Historically speaking, I can't trust white men, can't trust white women.

Speaker 2 (34:20):
You know what's crazy about you saying can't trust the
white men? And I do want to ask this then,
because in talking about male privilege and oh, we're like
pulling the layers out here, right, why then is black
women with that connotation?

Speaker 1 (34:34):
Are we feeling like white men are safer for us
than black Oh.

Speaker 2 (34:41):
No, no, no, no, no, no, no, No, I don't
think that white men are safer for us, because I've
heard this be said, especially white men. First of all,
I've watched enough Lifetime movie Channel films to know that
a white man is it's more likely to murder me
than anybody else. Agree, and then he's don't get on
a jet ski and people are gonna be like, it's
so sad that she died like that.

Speaker 4 (35:03):
You know.

Speaker 3 (35:03):
The thing is is that white men, I feel like
you kind of like, especially in the workplace, you're gonna
know how they feel about you. White women, they're gonna
get in, they're gonna they do a lot of acting
and a lot of their passive aggressive and microaggression.

Speaker 1 (35:19):
And a lot of sneaky I don't know, you're like, oh,
this is my friend, but she's going to HR. She's
going to HR. She's doing a case against you.

Speaker 3 (35:27):
So I think that they're both The deception is prevalent,
but they're gonna go about it in different ways. And
I feel like sometimes it's easier to align with the
white man in the sense of like they're gonna tell
you how they feel. They're they're they're not as fake
you think black men are fake. Not black men, I

(35:48):
think like white women, white women. Okay, yeah, and I
agree with that too. That's why feminism is one of
those things where it's just like.

Speaker 1 (35:55):
It's for them, yes, for them, but they will try
to group it. No, this is for everybody. No, but
a lot of it benefits y'all. We are not really
thought about all of it benefits them. It's crazy.

Speaker 2 (36:07):
And now after like Kamala lost, all the white women
are like, well, why are the black people fighting for us?
Why is Obama and them not? He's retired, babe, he
got a Netflix thing that he's working on.

Speaker 1 (36:20):
He's not, he's not. He don't work for you. It's
crazy that they are.

Speaker 3 (36:24):
Like the whole thing about abortion, I mean, growing up,
they said it's it was only black and Latina girls
getting abortions. Now it's now, but at the marches it's
all white women. So what is it who is really
getting these abortions y'all?

Speaker 1 (36:38):
Do y'all want to just have the right to have it?
Or do y'all get them?

Speaker 2 (36:42):
Do you believe then, if we're talking even about abortion rights,
are there any privileges that women have?

Speaker 1 (36:49):
Women?

Speaker 2 (36:49):
Like?

Speaker 1 (36:49):
What what being a woman? What is our privilege?

Speaker 2 (36:52):
As women only because I'll get into it during Hypocritical
met Hypocritical youth segment where we all did take a
privileged test and I'll put it in the link of
this episode so that you guys can take it as well. However,
there were a lot of questions, like there was even
one where that said, I'm a man because clearly there's
male privilege. Yes, absolutely, is there any privilege in being

(37:15):
a woman? If so, where do you see it?

Speaker 1 (37:17):
At bars? At restaurants. I'll bring my tiniest lizo purse,
they dropped the check, I'll be like, Okay, valid, I guess.

Speaker 2 (37:30):
But that leans into patriarchy essentially, that goes to our
benefit that we get from patriarchy, where a man is
supposed to be a provider's spender and we're supposed to
be the Listen.

Speaker 1 (37:40):
Do you want me to be here or not? Because
I don't have to be here. I got wine up
the house.

Speaker 3 (37:44):
Yeah, but even even leaning into that, you're taking away
your power, like having a man provide solely, right, and
then what else are we So I'm I'm gonna be
in the house, cooking clean and doing all that.

Speaker 1 (37:58):
That sounded like a job. No, No, I'm not. I'm not.

Speaker 2 (38:03):
So basically, are we all kind of because I was
when I asked this question. I was like, I'm thinking
of it. So we have no privileges then, I mean
we outside of walking into a room getting free shit
because men are gawking over us. We don't believe that
there's any privilege in existing as women.

Speaker 1 (38:25):
Oh, I believe they do it here.

Speaker 3 (38:29):
I believe that there's like in certain jobs, like the
beauty aspect of it all, Like we can create jobs
that are not necessarily jobs that men can do.

Speaker 1 (38:39):
It's a double edged sword. So you and I reason,
did you ever work in night life? Yeah?

Speaker 2 (38:44):
Okay, so we've all worked in nightlife right where, Yeah,
we can make all this money. We only get the
job if we look a certain way. Let's be very clear.
It's a place where they can hire and fire you.
But you gain too much weight, they could fire you.
If you don't fit the aesthetic that they want, they
can let go of you. It's very pretty privilege driven,
women driven because they want women in there to attract

(39:04):
the men.

Speaker 1 (39:05):
Right.

Speaker 2 (39:06):
However, it's a double edged sword because within that same environment,
you're at risk for harassment, you're at risk for so
many things where it actually becomes a very toxic, mentally
draining environment, where where the privilege kind of essentially gets removed,
like yeah, you make money, but at what costs? And
I think in terms of women, yeah, we could be

(39:26):
on only fans. There's clearly we could sell ourselves. What
privilege is that really? Like you know what I mean
essentially that ooh great, our body can be these fucking
I don't want to call us corpses to men, but
essentially like we can just be there and be at
their given will.

Speaker 1 (39:43):
To me, I don't view that as a privilege.

Speaker 2 (39:45):
However, in terms of men, I used to always say, like, damn,
if I was a man, I could at least sell drugs,
like when I was down and out.

Speaker 1 (39:51):
I didn't want to lay all my back for it.
I would have loved to, like slang a little thing.

Speaker 2 (39:55):
And I did try it one time what in Miami,
And let me tell you how it did work out
because the men weren't tip the day to me and
I have to go get a body. I had to
go get a man with protection. So right before I
left Miami, I got out the clubs.

Speaker 1 (40:08):
Uh is this your big meach story, right? Now Grigeldam.

Speaker 2 (40:16):
So literally right right before I moved from Miami to
New York. This was two thousand and eleven. Oh no, baby,
we passed the seven years.

Speaker 1 (40:28):
They think like it happened. I said what I said.
I was there. So basically, this was the Molly era.
This was what got Ross in trouble, put Molly all
up in it. She ain't even know.

Speaker 2 (40:41):
This is when literally men for fun were dropping Molly
pills into bottles at the table, and you didn't know
what the fun was happening because everyone was drinking out
of the bottle, so they didn't even feel like they
were drugging women because they were drinking out of the
same bottle too. Anyways, in Miami, everybody wanted molly at
the time, as well athletes. Sorry if y'all were there
during that time, it wasn't coming up. It was one

(41:02):
of the drugs that actually got out of your system
within twenty four to forty eight hours, so that athletes
was on molly. Everybody was on molly. So I ended
up getting a connect that sold it to me pure
so cut that thing up with It was like vitamin
sea powders. So you know how when you took molly.
You're supposed to drink orange juice.

Speaker 1 (41:21):
I cut it. Oh, I was a whole. I was
in the kitchen baby.

Speaker 2 (41:23):
From Nixon, and I ended up going half with another
guy and he tried to like body me into selling
his portion for him because I was in the space,
and I literally felt like you mind you white skinny
squatty nigga. Clearly white male privilege wasn't there with him
in the drug game, but against me, he definitely felt

(41:46):
like he had something over me, and I had to
get someone.

Speaker 1 (41:50):
To come and protect me, essentially, but a man Julius,
don't do this.

Speaker 2 (41:59):
His name was Aaron, but yeah, he was big, big body,
brawlick and had a gun because I have a gun
at the time at all time. Actually I live in Georgia. Now, okay,
there's multiple, there's multiple.

Speaker 1 (42:10):
She's a trier if you want to.

Speaker 2 (42:12):
But but even as that, I was like, oh, this
life isn't for me, Like Queen of the South was
the only one who got it correct. But other than that,
I don't think I know of many women who are
able to even infiltrate their space. There's that that was
that series on Netflix. Then there's the construction worker. There
are bodyguards. There's so many jobs that actually we literally

(42:35):
don't qualify for just because we're women.

Speaker 1 (42:37):
Hey, Rihanna has a female bodyguard? Really she do?

Speaker 2 (42:41):
When she's in all the pictures behind her, people think
she's like her. I don't know, nanny or resistant or whatever. No,
has a black female bodyguard?

Speaker 1 (42:50):
Oh wow, oh wowos Now she got good shoulders, Tony Tailby.
Now ask both of you. Now, we took this test again.
It's in the link. I would like to know how
privileged we all are. Now. I took a screenshot of
my results.

Speaker 2 (43:06):
Y'all, I am forty eight out of one hundred, which
says I am not privileged at all. You grew up
with an intersectional, complicated identity, and life never let you
forget it. You've had your fair share of struggles, and
you've worked hard to overcome them. We do not live
in an ideal world, and you had to learn that
the hard way. It is not your responsibility to educate

(43:26):
those with more advantages than you. But if you decide
you want to, go go ahead and send them this quiz,
which again I'm sharing with you guys. So I am
not privileged. I did not grow up privilege. However, now
I have busted my ass off, I do believe I
exist with pretty privilege e and maybe status privilege a
little bit. I removed myself from geographical privilege by moving

(43:50):
from New York to Atlanta.

Speaker 1 (43:52):
Yeah, but Atlanta's still a hub like, Atlanta is still
a place of pop in city.

Speaker 2 (43:56):
Like. The only privilege I think I have there is
being able to witness black black excellent.

Speaker 3 (44:02):
Yeah, I think that everybody's this celebrity is there, everybody's somebody.

Speaker 2 (44:06):
It's it's nice to be able to see black people
in those spaces.

Speaker 1 (44:10):
Now, now, what was yours? Because I felt like we
were very.

Speaker 2 (44:13):
Similar forty eight out of one hundred checks, same exact thing,
the same exact thing.

Speaker 1 (44:17):
So me and Resy talked off air.

Speaker 2 (44:20):
We we don't align the same sexuality, however, our upbringing
fairly similar. And then we both don't have all of
the religious attachments.

Speaker 1 (44:30):
There is a huge gap of religious privilege in certain communities,
in certain spaces. Now, you you are the least privileged here,
and you you are the least privilege What was your results?
Nineteen out of one hundred.

Speaker 3 (44:49):
Wow, you checked more than five percent of quiz takers
you are under privileged under the world is not a
fair or ideal place. And you know that because you
grew up with several identities that the world is not
kind to. You had a lot of challenges to overcome
simply to get on the level playing field with most
people in the world. It is not your job to

(45:10):
educate the world about its injustices. But if you choose
to go ahead and send them this quiz, hopefully it
will help.

Speaker 1 (45:17):
Hopefully this helps you.

Speaker 2 (45:19):
Guy on, hold on, go ahead now, oh now, now, Jason,
the Puerto Rican is what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (45:26):
It's okay that she was like because she's the most
underprivileged here on set.

Speaker 3 (45:31):
Oh wow, that is And I say that every time
I say that, I say I'm a black gay woman.
The the the weight of the world is on my shoulders.
It is exhausting. When I wake up, I'm like, another day,
I made it. So yeah, yeah, it's hard.

Speaker 1 (45:47):
It's hard. On here now, I wanna, I wanna.

Speaker 2 (45:49):
I want to dig in before we get out of
here to our flip the script segment. Okay, and this
is an interesting one, Jason. I might need you to
hop on the mic and tell me your thoughts.

Speaker 5 (45:59):
Here.

Speaker 2 (46:00):
So this is an interesting element of privilege as well.
Have y'all ever heard of woke privilege?

Speaker 4 (46:08):
No?

Speaker 2 (46:08):
Okay, so I want to ask you if athletes exhibit
woke privilege? Now, a Standard university think tank led by
Condelliza Rice Stanford, I'm reading what you.

Speaker 1 (46:24):
That's why he's doing the edit right now. Actually, privilege
is crazy. That's crazy, well because there are parts of
the world. Okay.

Speaker 2 (46:40):
So, a Stanford University think tank led by Condelliza Rice
published a podcast called The Classes hosted by a conservative
commentator named Victor Hanson, and in an episode, they argued
that professional athletes and franchise owners have embraced the language
of revolution while getting rich off of the status quo.

(47:00):
So add the context there. I would love to know
your thoughts on this, Jason.

Speaker 5 (47:06):
I think this is coming from like when they were
playing in the bubble and they had like Black Lives
Matter on the court, a lot of stuff in the
back of their jerseys. But they're still selling tickets. They're
still or even like the arguments to people making against
Kaepernick right that it's just performative, but he still has
a multi.

Speaker 2 (47:22):
No, no, no, it was performative because his career of
the time was on the dclan because then just a
couple years later he was trying out for the same ly.

Speaker 5 (47:31):
Sure, but in the event for these dudes, right, let's
just say they're at the protests with y'all, but then
they're like, cool, my suv is waiting, you know, keep
up the good fight.

Speaker 6 (47:39):
I'll catch you at the next one.

Speaker 1 (47:41):
So I don't think.

Speaker 2 (47:42):
I don't think what privilege exists within our community as
much as it is maybe more of a quote unquote
privilege monetarily for corporations, because we see recently them Nigga said, actually, fuck,
oh y'all, no more d no more pride months, no
more because it no longer sells. We now have we're
within a Trump administration. I think people are tired, unfortunately,

(48:05):
of the fight because there's been a lot of pushback.

Speaker 1 (48:08):
I mean even for women's rights. Baby, they just said, oh,
y'all women think y'all.

Speaker 2 (48:11):
Are getting ahead. We're gonna reverse Roe v. Wade and
now you know what I mean. Like, So, I don't
know about Wilke privilege to me being anything more than
a money grab up for corporations. I like, when we
exist in a world that removes our selective ignorance and
actually educates ourselves on things. I don't think it exists

(48:33):
outside of corporations.

Speaker 5 (48:34):
And I will say influencers, what about the what about
the And this is not me, this is just me
putting this for the script to be fair.

Speaker 6 (48:42):
So what about the activists who do they?

Speaker 5 (48:46):
Are there certain influential influencer activists that have the privilege
to message this, but still by multimillion dollar homes.

Speaker 2 (48:55):
You know what that is you're talking about, Talcolm X,
Sean King. Okay, this is this is this is something
in there. I will lean that and this is gonna
sound so bad. Oh my god, we're gonna sound bad.

(49:15):
I think that there is a privilege informing sentences. I
think that because of educational disparities, that if you are
able to speak a full sentence, if you are able
to express yourself to where you can get people to
follow you. I think it's why certain people are pastors.

(49:36):
There's really nothing more than motivational speakers that interpret the
Bible the way they want to and can get people
in the congregation to get them a tax break. Like
I think that, and it's what I've been seeing going
to churches now it's like, oh, are you dragging the
pastors right now? I mean, I'm just I didn't know
he was going here Sunday the Dungeon. No, no, no,

(50:00):
I'm just saying there is a privilege in articulation, specifically
within our community in terms of activists, pastors, or community leaders,
because a lot of us don't want to allow people
who get up and sometimes speak like us to lead
us because we view them as ignorant just because they're
not articulate. But is it is it what did you say,

(50:22):
sentence privilege or is it no articulation like in terms
of maybe their education or they're right, I hear what
you're saying, But is it a privilege or are they
just charismatic people like charming people, people like people who
you know, like personality hires, people like people who who
make them feel good or like bring light into a room.
Like I feel like that's I wouldn't say that that's

(50:44):
a privilege that I have. Like if you have a
personality that people want to be around, or that you
you make people feel good, But is that a privilege
or do you just like you just got goovia.

Speaker 3 (50:54):
You no, no, no likability? It makes is a thing,
and it's like, like a lot of jobs I should
got fired immediately. I was fucking up left and right.
They love me that I am charismatic. That makes people
feel good. I do know how to do the job.

Speaker 1 (51:09):
Is it perfect? No, But there were people getting fired
over me because they didn't like them.

Speaker 2 (51:14):
Right now, is that a privilege that they like you
if you're unlikable? Does that mean you don't have privilege
or you just got a bad personality or maybe.

Speaker 3 (51:25):
It's always the Amanda Seals of it all. It's like
she is, she is talented, she does do the job,
but it's like, girl, you are unbearable, You're unlikable.

Speaker 1 (51:36):
They don't like are you fun? Sorry?

Speaker 3 (51:40):
And because there's probably somebody who is not as talented
as her that is booking the gig that she should
have because it's.

Speaker 1 (51:47):
Like, girl, we just can't have you in the room.
I'm sorry. You're going live, mab that's know.

Speaker 3 (51:53):
We're on set, like we know that you are going
to go tell everybody about what's going on.

Speaker 1 (51:58):
We don't like that.

Speaker 2 (52:00):
I'm curious to know, while wrapping this up, if you
could have one privilege, what would it be?

Speaker 1 (52:11):
Whatever? Privileged? Rich people pets have.

Speaker 2 (52:16):
Whatever privilege that, Like Lisa vander Pump's little dog got
that when she died, She's gonna leave all her money
in the will to the dog.

Speaker 1 (52:24):
Like I feel like that.

Speaker 2 (52:26):
Like if I could come back as a as a
rich person's pet in the next life, I think i'd the.

Speaker 3 (52:30):
Eye and I'll go up on that a neo baby,
I would.

Speaker 1 (52:36):
Love thee yes.

Speaker 3 (52:40):
Don't understand I under like, yes, you are working hard,
and we never or are working or you're trying or whatever.
But just to come into the world already set up
five times more than the average person. I mean, do
you understand how you wake up, how you live? To
know that, oh my god, if this isn't go right,

(53:00):
I'm not gonna be homeless. To know that you're getting
in a door and somebody's already like, hey, they don't really.

Speaker 1 (53:06):
Know what they're doing, but let's give him a try.

Speaker 3 (53:08):
Like to know that you have a checkings, a savings
or trust like that you just no matter how hard
you work, It's like, even if you don't want to work,
you still are gonna be just fine.

Speaker 2 (53:21):
I'm not gonna lie the that's not the money doesn't
buy happiness. Came from someone who didn't have like there
is a there is a blessing, a privilege and all
of that and being able to pay your goddamn bills, like,
oh my god, the relief, because baby, when I was
deciding whether I was gonna get oodles and noodles, the
toilet paper ship was rough.

Speaker 1 (53:41):
The reason why rea ship was rough.

Speaker 2 (53:44):
You was using the little code. You was using the
tube to wipe your blasses. The way the way that
Scott made it.

Speaker 1 (53:50):
Made it rough. You didn't need to get the Scott.
You could have got the one, the one, the one
point five ply, the point five fly. What makes me
so upset?

Speaker 3 (53:59):
It's like, of course you can work with creativity, with ease,
you're not doing it as a with lack. You're not
doing like, oh, I have to do this because things
have to get paid, No wonder. You can have this
imaginative outlook on things and walk like you're floating, yeah,
because you're not thinking about I have to take care
of me and seven other people in my household. Like

(54:22):
it's just it's insane to be like to fight people
on the no, no, no, I belong here. It's like
hush and I'm not saying that you don't belong here,
But you belonging here is not what we're talking. We're saying,
like you, you had it a lot easier than everybody
else that have applied My last.

Speaker 2 (54:40):
Question because I think that the people listening they would
find this interesting.

Speaker 1 (54:44):
Oh yeah, no, she did that.

Speaker 2 (54:46):
We all did not acknowledge at all any privilege in
being a woman. If you had the opportunity, would you
change places with a man for.

Speaker 1 (54:55):
Like a day, maybe like a month? When's the men's
history months? You don't need you don't. Don't you have
the privilege all year? Look now you watch a goddamn
what would you change places with a man?

Speaker 6 (55:13):
If you?

Speaker 1 (55:13):
If you could? This is gonna be rough. But I
feel like there's a soullessness that men have. But I
don't want to touch. Oh I don't want to Sydney.
You lean freak soulllessness on a Sunday. I'm sorry, guys,
she said, I ain't got no soul. Wait, what do

(55:34):
you mean by that?

Speaker 3 (55:35):
I mean, first of all, I think men are corrupted
by power. Like some men don't have that some, but
a lot of men strive for they want to be
the most powerful person in the room even when they
don't have anything.

Speaker 2 (55:48):
What's funny with you saying that, I actually found this
in my research look at that hidden costs of male
privilege actually do include males being expected to subscribe to
a toxic ideal. They may prioritize money and status over
healthy relationships, and they this can have serious costs to
their well being later in life. So they do have

(56:12):
all of these, which is I think literally goes to
what you just said, like, there is almost a lightness
although it's hard, it's it's there's a lot on our
shoulders to nurture. There is kind of a lightness in
being able to exist as a woman. Yes, but I
think that there's Yes, I was gonna say there's a
heaviness to being a man because they're expected to be strong,

(56:33):
they're expected to provide, they're expected to be like manly
men and not have feelings and not show emotion, and
everybody should be able to do that, and these men
are all there's a there's probably a soullessness there because.

Speaker 1 (56:47):
They can't be like, hey, you know, I'm sad today,
like they hear society.

Speaker 2 (56:53):
They can they can do that, they just don't do
it because they don't want to look weak or they
don't want to seem like I don't know you made
or whatever. But it's like it's twenty twenty five, Like
you should all have therapists. You should all be sharing
with somebody how you're feeling or what's going on in
your head. And you don't have to carry all of that.
And if you guys did that, it'd be less. I
don't know school, which is all so crazy, because I.

Speaker 1 (57:14):
Do feel like, let's school shootings. It's crazy.

Speaker 2 (57:17):
However, I do think and because we have two male producers,
I want to ask you, guys, at any point in
your life, have you.

Speaker 1 (57:25):
Wanted to be a woman? Oh, because he's in my
male privilege.

Speaker 6 (57:30):
No, but I will say the answer to By the way,
this is.

Speaker 1 (57:32):
An audio experience, can you please give the answer. They
didn't see the headshake.

Speaker 6 (57:37):
I have never wanted to be a woman.

Speaker 1 (57:39):
Why not?

Speaker 6 (57:40):
I don't know the answer to.

Speaker 1 (57:41):
I just you said it seems hard.

Speaker 6 (57:43):
It just never happened.

Speaker 4 (57:44):
I do have compassion to seeing my mom, seeing my sister,
my aunts, and my women cousins challenges that they have faced.

Speaker 6 (57:55):
You know, through their journeys. You have empathy and compassion.

Speaker 1 (57:58):
It seems hard, but I don't know.

Speaker 4 (58:00):
I never thought of it like that. Okay, but I
will say that all of this stuff starts in the house, right,
being taught that ma chiese mo and you know our
uncles and for whatever they were taught, right, it's just
passed down. So we talked about breaking generational curses. We
always look at it from a financial but it's more
so behavioral right, and see how we're able to unpack

(58:22):
this at our age and shit.

Speaker 6 (58:23):
But it's like, how do we nurture the.

Speaker 4 (58:26):
Ones coming up to say hey, it's okay to you know,
showing emotion or unpack it, you know where you have
some sort of emotional intelligence, especially when you're dealing with others.

Speaker 3 (58:39):
But what's crazy about for me, for men is that
they'll have mothers and sisters and women that do everything
or work hard, and then they'll turn around and date
people and treat them just as bad or worse than yeah,
the people that treated the women in their life or better.

Speaker 1 (58:56):
Yet, it's like men will see women and you treat
them like the cat calling and stuff like.

Speaker 3 (59:01):
But you wouldn't want somebody to do that to your
sister or your mother or your grandmother or whatever. And
it's like, how could I feel like women have more
compassion because they're like, I wouldn't want somebody to treat
me like So that's why.

Speaker 1 (59:11):
Yeah, we are so giving and thoughtful and work hard
or whatever. But and forgiving. Yeah, and forget you say forgiven,
because that's why. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (59:20):
Yeah, let's start holding grudges, ladies twenty five, Let's start
holding holding grudges. Let's start holding grudges. What question do
we want to end off with for our audience? Jason,
I'm gonna pass you the mic because I'm curious because
this was we we we we pulled out.

Speaker 1 (59:36):
Laterst today, I don't know I got here we could do?

Speaker 5 (59:41):
Is there a real hierarchy to all these privileges we discussed?

Speaker 3 (59:44):
I e.

Speaker 5 (59:45):
One over the other or all the privileges just trailing
behind white privilege and male privilege.

Speaker 1 (59:50):
Oh, I'm not gonna lie. Everything is behind. Like I
heard y'all's answers. If I could, I would pretty privileges
putting up some good fight.

Speaker 2 (59:58):
Thought, Yeah, but yeah, I'm not a lie because he's
not pretty. I would want all of the privilege that
Jeff Bezos has. So yeah, he's the farthest thing from
pretty baby and her farthest That's what I'm saying. Any privilege,
actually to me comes at such a higher cost. I
would want to be white, male, rich, status, geographical, all

(01:00:19):
of the privileges with that.

Speaker 6 (01:00:21):
To be white, you don't even need the status though.

Speaker 1 (01:00:23):
Status, Yeah, but with money, being white and a man
their status. There you go, like you know what I mean?
Like you said, it sounds like mega, don't do that.
Don't do that. Don't do that. She is from Florida,
do not do that. I don't wish to be a Republican,
but if I.

Speaker 6 (01:00:39):
Can adjacent You said, what just adjacent.

Speaker 1 (01:00:44):
An adjacent?

Speaker 2 (01:00:45):
Y'all are not gonna keep getting this All that is
crazy conservative sun liberal moves.

Speaker 1 (01:00:54):
I think it's me that's it, right, I hear it.
I'm just saying that's the privilege I would want that
I'll never have.

Speaker 2 (01:01:06):
But I'm cool existing in exactly where I'm at, and
I'm I'm just ready to be a part of the
battle that it's going to take for me to get
to all the places that I see myself being and
just acknowledging that it exists. I would implore the audience
not to lean into anyone else's privilege or look at

(01:01:30):
something like you can't do something because that privilege doesn't
exist within you. I mean, Sid just said there was
a lot of privileges she didn't have younger that now
she's exploring you can still you can gain privilege except
being black and going white.

Speaker 1 (01:01:42):
We all saw that with Rachel Dolajaw. It doesn't matter.
You cannot transracial yourself into privilege.

Speaker 4 (01:01:48):
But I.

Speaker 2 (01:01:50):
She started doing braids and people was going on her
to get day braids done. But she's got an only fan.

Speaker 1 (01:01:57):
No, no, no, no, we're not doing new category. Trying
to clown value. So Malik Yoba said he does not
identify as what not.

Speaker 6 (01:02:10):
He's not black anymore. He's non white.

Speaker 1 (01:02:12):
He's non same is Malik. There's actually no application that
you could get.

Speaker 6 (01:02:20):
He's trying to re engineer the privilege his name is.

Speaker 1 (01:02:22):
He has to change his name as well, and he
books so like what's his what's the not? Really? Now
is he talking about I'm non white like that? That
sounds like, oh, the bookings are very He said he
wants to play colorless role.

Speaker 2 (01:02:33):
Yes, so he wants anybody so he wants to be
Terrence Howard, that's what we're hearing.

Speaker 1 (01:02:37):
No, no, no, no, no. He wants to be avatar.

Speaker 2 (01:02:39):
He wants to be avatar. Okay, oh that's a colorless role.
Now it sounds like he needs to go into voice acting.

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