Ep. 15 | Black Conspiracies & Public Secrets (Allegedly)

In this week's episode of Selective Ignorance, Mandii B sits down with her producers A-King and Jayson Rodriguez for a thought-provoking and often humorous conversation that ventures into the world of conspiracy theories, cultural mistrust, and the broader impact of cancel culture. Kicking things off with reflections from the audience and personal anecdotes (00:00, 08:06), the discussion quickly takes a deeper turn as they explore how conspiracy theories have historically — and often deliberately — targeted Black communities (09:04). From the trauma of the Tuskegee experiment to the controversial response to Hurricane Katrina and the narratives around 9/11 (17:10), Mandii and the crew unpack why many remain skeptical of mainstream narratives. They take a closer look at the role of the alleged secret societies in shaping political power and influence (28:26), and examine how alleged rituals, sacrifices, and elite memberships have fueled pop culture paranoia (29:04). Drawing connections between sci-fi themes and real-world suspicion, the group explores whether what we’ve accepted as fact — from space travel to artificial intelligence — may have layers yet to be uncovered (32:21, 35:18, 38:13). The episode also delves into modern theories around COVID-19, population control, and how the internet has amplified conspiratorial thinking (42:13, 45:36). With pop culture increasingly blurring the lines between speculation and reality, Mandii questions how much of what we consume is designed to inform—and how much is meant to manipulate (48:21). As the conversation closes, they examine the intersection of wealth, power, and scandal (52:07), asking whether today's public figures are truly victims of cancel culture or architects of their own downfall. With curiosity, humor, and a healthy dose of skepticism, this episode invites listeners to explore not just what they believe—but why they believe it.

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:02):
It's enough the Week of Ignorance.

Speaker 2 (00:05):
Welcome to another episode of Selective Ignorance.

Speaker 1 (00:10):
I'm your host, Mandy Bee, and y'all.

Speaker 2 (00:13):
This is a little bit of a different episode because
it's just so low. So I'm here with my super producers,
A King and Jason.

Speaker 1 (00:23):
What's going on with y'all?

Speaker 3 (00:24):
What up?

Speaker 4 (00:25):
Let's do this?

Speaker 2 (00:26):
Oh my goodness, So, y'all, I did want to talk
to y'all. Hopefully I sound much louder fonya headtops. Basically,
let me talk to y'all because I am a stickler
for audio. So I have been on A King's ass,
but it's because y'all recording out of New York. I
haven't set up with my producers and we just didn't

(00:50):
have any patting behind them, so.

Speaker 1 (00:52):
We've been having to doctor up this audio quite a bit.

Speaker 2 (00:54):
But I'm really grateful that y'all have been rocking with us,
enjoying the conversations and enjoying the debate. We are a
lot of episodes in because I don't believe in ten
episode seasons over here on Selective Ignorance, but I would
love to know you. No, I'll be petty. I don't

(01:15):
be petty with it a little bit nothing.

Speaker 1 (01:17):
I don't say that. I just said that around these parts.
I don't believe in seasonal shit professional podcast.

Speaker 2 (01:28):
Part, which is crazy because I'm also being a hypocrite
only because period sis is seasonal. But guess how many
episodes was in season one?

Speaker 3 (01:37):
Ninety?

Speaker 1 (01:38):
You feel me?

Speaker 2 (01:39):
There was like ninety episodes in season one. Anyways, I'm
I'm glad to be back. We're having We're gonna have
a fun conversation today. Jason and King are going to
question me on my thoughts on conspiracy theories and so
we're leading into those uh this week. But before we do,

(02:02):
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Speaker 1 (02:15):
And yeah, we gonna get into it.

Speaker 2 (02:17):
But before we do, something on these solo episodes that
I want to do is.

Speaker 1 (02:23):
Have y'all joined in the episodes.

Speaker 2 (02:25):
By reading y'all's bullshit ask comments. So we're gonna read
some comments that y'all either left on our YouTube or
our social media platforms and just do a little bit
of responding. This one comes from at J dot Will
from our art Versus the Artists episode, and he said

(02:48):
it's twenty twenty five and y'all still talking about cancel culture.

Speaker 1 (02:52):
That shit ain't real.

Speaker 5 (02:53):
Man.

Speaker 2 (02:54):
The baby lost opportunities, but he wasn't canceled, his label
didn't drop him, and he's still putting out music. Okay,
if y'all don't see a nigga selling two for one
tickets that the Cheesecake Factory is being.

Speaker 1 (03:08):
Canceled, I don't know what it is. I have not
seen the Baby.

Speaker 2 (03:12):
Grace a festival stage outside of Rolling Loud, which is
the festival he got canceled for.

Speaker 1 (03:18):
To begin with. So maybe he owed them some shit.
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (03:22):
But unfortunately, as someone who was a fan of his music,
I disagree. I do think that we absolutely saw him
be canceled in real time. He's no longer getting play
on the airwaves like he was. I don't think he's
getting the support, and so maybe you have a different
opinion of what cancel culture looks like, maybe you define

(03:43):
it differently. Yes, he is still alive, which is what
you said. His label didn't drop him, and he has
putting got music. The nigga is still alive.

Speaker 4 (03:53):
He's lost opportunities is kind of canceled.

Speaker 2 (03:58):
I mean, y'all, do y'all believe that that that the
baby is essentially canceled for what you know, canceled to be?

Speaker 5 (04:08):
I think people think canceling is like forget it, you're
out of there, Chrissette Michelle or something like that. But
losing opportunities to what she's admitted that they don't.

Speaker 1 (04:18):
That pissed me off.

Speaker 2 (04:20):
When when when when our community tried to cancel Chrissette Michelle?
Y'all can't name three Corissette Michelle songs?

Speaker 1 (04:31):
How impactful?

Speaker 2 (04:32):
Like y'all canceled her because she's saying it the fucking
Trump inauguration. But who was jamming Chrissette Michelle while they
was cleaning the house and they card fucking what three?
Can let me see the let me see the top
Chrissette mache?

Speaker 1 (04:48):
Bro, what are we talking?

Speaker 4 (04:49):
That's only what I know?

Speaker 3 (04:51):
Trying to think of something outside of that.

Speaker 2 (04:52):
That's why I was like, bro, y'all was out here saying,
y'all canceled Chrissette Michelle?

Speaker 3 (04:56):
What cancel?

Speaker 6 (04:57):
Culture only exists because of the the magnify the magnifying
of social media. Everybody's chiming in. Everybody's like, you know,
stirring up the pot.

Speaker 4 (05:07):
A couple of a couple of forevers.

Speaker 1 (05:09):
Real quick, you know.

Speaker 2 (05:11):
Chrissepte Michelle, Chrissepte Michelle had if if I have my.

Speaker 1 (05:15):
Way, best to me be okay? Love is you?

Speaker 2 (05:17):
What's crazy is even reading those titles? I can't give
you what the song is. So like when you bring
up Chrosette Michelle, I just find that laughable. And that's
that might be also why I don't know how.

Speaker 3 (05:31):
You might be going through a quiet cancel to define it.

Speaker 4 (05:34):
Quiet cancel, like.

Speaker 6 (05:36):
With agencies, is probably not trying to seek opportunities for him.

Speaker 3 (05:40):
They probably feel like the risk reward is not there. Agency, Okay,
it's possible.

Speaker 2 (05:47):
I want to read another comment before we get into
our conspiracy theories. This is from at Sea to the
j He made a comment from our Privileged episode and
and he said, y'all have the privilege to not be
drafted into war like men. Now tell us what's an
actual melt privilege men have that women don't.

Speaker 1 (06:10):
Nigga, are we serious? Six serious? First off, you get
paid more.

Speaker 2 (06:19):
The wage gap is very real and prevalent between men
and women. You know another privilege you niggas have. You
don't shoot a human being at your p hole. I
mean we don't shoot it out our pe hole either,
but we give birth. And when I say we, it's
women not me. Y'all know, I ain't got no kids.

Speaker 3 (06:39):
Can you love all men and that men.

Speaker 6 (06:42):
We're gonna do this because the staff that came out
that said most most dudes aren't going to college, right,
so that means more women are going to college. And
when you look at the demographic of who white, black,
and the other, is it more white men that's making
more money than women in this satirety.

Speaker 2 (06:59):
Men in gener black men historically, historically black man as.

Speaker 4 (07:04):
A recent sort of like the Men's crist, men.

Speaker 2 (07:06):
Are still men are still making more money. Men are
still making more money than women overall.

Speaker 1 (07:13):
Also, I need some of you niggas to get drafted.

Speaker 2 (07:17):
I don't know why they not drafted, y'all, but that
hasn't even happened, probably in your lifetime.

Speaker 1 (07:23):
So this idea that get drafted to warn less, he
pulled out.

Speaker 4 (07:27):
He pulled out.

Speaker 3 (07:29):
People. You are de.

Speaker 2 (07:33):
Bro, This nigga, this thigg is eighty comment, because we
get drafted into wars.

Speaker 3 (07:39):
I was in my retirement home follow him on.

Speaker 1 (07:44):
Brow that ship. This is the fact that he said,
see number two d A.

Speaker 2 (07:51):
He's definitely millennial because he's not eighty C to the jay,
Suck my dick for the back.

Speaker 1 (07:59):
Y'all are not even getting drafted into war?

Speaker 2 (08:01):
And to sit here and not acknowledge the male privilege
that you have over women. I apologize that you, sir,
have to pay for a dinner date when you go
on it. I apologize. Blame the patriarchy, do not blame us.

Speaker 3 (08:17):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (08:18):
I found that comment to be absolutely hilarious, talking about
being drafted into war?

Speaker 1 (08:24):
Where are we? What are we talking about?

Speaker 2 (08:28):
All right, So here's a hook for today's episode, y'all,
how do conspiracy theories target black people? I'm really excited
to get into this conversation because I think that we
can lean into the conspiracy theories of the Aliens and

(08:49):
did nine to eleven really take place? We're gonna get
into all of these as well, however, in terms of
how we the tax in which we use conspiracy theories
as a way to remove our fears or in ways
to allow us to not allow them to reshape history,

(09:12):
I think is really important. And so I guess we
can start off with a couple of these, Jason, I
think it's really big to talk about how as black
people from.

Speaker 1 (09:26):
The beginning of time.

Speaker 2 (09:27):
I don't even want to lean just into slavery, but
there's a lot of conspiracies around how we were mutilated,
how we were tested, like the way they do rats
and things in terms of the face of science, and
we can literally lean into the Tuskegee experiment and what
that looked like and what that was. But you believed

(09:49):
that a king would think differently than me and this,
So I want you to kind of preface where we're
going here with conspiracy theories and black people specifically.

Speaker 4 (10:00):
Yeah, sure, so, I guess.

Speaker 5 (10:03):
So I was saying to you the other day, is
that if we're talking about like white conspiracy theorists and
black conspiracy theists, and probably white ones are just that's
like the crazy I believe in aliens or I got abducted.

Speaker 1 (10:15):
First of don't do that people, we put on the whites.

Speaker 5 (10:20):
But yeah, sure, but whereas a black conspiracy theorist, you know,
it's probably based off some like folk tale or you know,
there's there's a chance that.

Speaker 4 (10:28):
There's more truth towards it.

Speaker 5 (10:29):
And and that's why that's how conspiracy theories can target
black people, because there's some elements of truth that's built
upon something and then they kind of use that to
twist and turn.

Speaker 4 (10:39):
It into something else.

Speaker 5 (10:40):
And so if we're talking about like the Tuskegee experiment,
which you know you are like, that's not a conspiracy theory,
and I said, a king will probably differ with you
on that one. You know, the thought of that one
is is is with the experiment that you know is
a medical situation and a bunch of black troops were

(11:02):
being treated but they weren't getting They were being treated
for syphilis, right, but they were giving up placebo.

Speaker 1 (11:07):
And they were giving up placebo.

Speaker 2 (11:08):
And allegedly the tests that were ran on these men
were to gauge what would happen and it spanned across
like the effects would be forty years for what it is.
And it's funny though, like the idea and it's not
funny by the way, but the idea of giving up placebo.

Speaker 1 (11:27):
My mama gave me a placebo before, so, uh, let.

Speaker 2 (11:30):
Me tell you how she So my mom is a
nurse and when I had an abortion, I think the
guilt had me so crazy. I was like, Mama, can't eat.
So she gave me this pill allegedly helped me eat.
Maybe took me straight to Arby's, ordered a roast beef
and cella and I just started eating. After she gave
me this pill. She looked at me like bitch, that
was telling all. And so my mom has actually done

(11:54):
the placebo. And it's crazy if you guys look into
so a placebo is and this is a part of
what they do.

Speaker 1 (11:59):
It would experience. They'll give some.

Speaker 2 (12:01):
People an actual vaccine or something that's supposed to help you,
and they'll give someone else a placebo.

Speaker 1 (12:08):
Sometimes it'll be saline.

Speaker 2 (12:10):
Water or a sugar pillar, sugar pills, and essentially people
psychologically believe they're getting better or feeling away when they're
actually not. And so the Tuskegee experiment did a lot
of that. People thought they were getting vaccines or things
that would help them when in fact they were getting

(12:30):
uh placebo, things that weren't helping them and led to
a lot of deaths. The father of gynecology not using
anesthesia as well.

Speaker 1 (12:41):
What is that is that an actual.

Speaker 5 (12:45):
That's an actual one. Well, I see, I guess that's
the thing. It's like with the Tuskegee right, Like we know.

Speaker 2 (12:50):
That those were real though, so how do we leave
people being a conspiracy?

Speaker 5 (12:54):
But I imagine if you ask some people about the
Tuskegee experiment, they'll say that that those soldiers were injected
with something? And is that then rumor or? Is that
how a conspiracy starts? Like, what's your take on?

Speaker 1 (13:07):
I mean, it's funny because when you say that.

Speaker 2 (13:10):
In terms of the Tuskegee experiment, you saying the injection
of something makes me think of HIV and AIDS being
attached to black people, because the conspiracy is that HIV
and AIDS started from Africa. They've they attached it to Africa,

(13:32):
and I've heard two things. I heard that it was
from monkeys, which of course they align as through the
evolution of black people as well. I'm not even gonna
lie I think the evolution is a conspiracy theory, but
I don't know if I don't know, if I want
to get fully into there, I do not believe.

Speaker 1 (13:48):
I do not believe that we evolved from monkeys.

Speaker 2 (13:53):
I just do not, because if we do, why is
the same thing not talked about white people evolving from lizards.
If we talk about like what they look like, and
there's no way we came from monkeys and they didn't come.

Speaker 1 (14:05):
From that, you know what I mean?

Speaker 3 (14:08):
Yeah, and so superior.

Speaker 2 (14:12):
So I think that Okay, and this is where y'all,
this is where I'm going to lean into my ignorance.
If you have been following me on many of my podcasts,
I say often that I don't believe science. Here is
why science, although it is tested, it has tried, it

(14:35):
is quote unquote true, the results and how they are
delivered come from humans. And so in terms of what
they actually want us to know what they actually don't
want us to know. In terms of the government, the
illuminati will get there too, the higher ups, the higher beings.
I think that when something is labeled as science, we're

(14:57):
supposed to not question it until scientists decide we have
something new to share. Also in terms of where it
hurts me truly dearly, because I like to let you
guys know more about why I think the way I do.
I used to want to be an astronaut. I don't

(15:17):
know if I shared it here on this podcast. I
used to want to be an astronaut. That used to
be what I wanted in my career to be until
I watched the Shuttle. I believe in nineteen ninety seven,
go up and blow the fuck up. However, every Christmas,
my mom would get me these planets that stuck to
my ceiling. I had crystal growing kids. She used to
buy me astronaut food. One day I wake up these

(15:40):
niggas removed Pluto as a planet. It went from it
went from my very educated mother just sold us and
it stopped.

Speaker 1 (15:50):
We don't get pizza no more.

Speaker 2 (15:52):
I woke up they removed Pluto as a planet, and
from that point I was just like dang, at a
drop of the dime, they can come and say what
is and what is it anymore? And so to me,
I believe in questioning everything, and because I have a
huge problem trusting human beings, maybe it's a lack of
trust I have. I do not believe science, and I

(16:15):
believe that under the guise of science it's supposed to
be true. I question truthte.

Speaker 1 (16:25):
What do you mean a third?

Speaker 2 (16:26):
No, no, no, we're not doing this. We're not doing a strology.
We're not astrology is not We're not no, no, no, no, no,
a king. What we're not gonna do is talk about
science and then bring up astrology.

Speaker 1 (16:39):
We're not, no, I know it's not the same. So
all the fun.

Speaker 3 (16:44):
Is your house into No no, no.

Speaker 2 (16:46):
No no. We are talking about the planets and out
of space right now. We are not talking about your
rising sun, moon star house, apartment, mansion.

Speaker 1 (16:55):
We're not doing it.

Speaker 2 (16:57):
And so in talking about conspiracies, I'm excited because yes,
I do believe that there is a line that can
be drawn between white conspiracies and black conspiracies, essentially because
of yeah, how we perceive it, and of course we're
going to get into COVID nineteen and how black people
perceed it differently. But okay, also based on history. Where

(17:22):
do we want to start with conspiracy theories?

Speaker 1 (17:24):
We have political.

Speaker 5 (17:25):
Arre Are you a conspiracy theory? Would you call yourself
a conspiracy theorist?

Speaker 2 (17:29):
I don't think. I think that you are a conspiracy theorist.
If you question what things are being told to you,
So if you question politics, if you question science, if
you question logic or what we perceive to be reality,
I think yes, you are a conspiracy theorist.

Speaker 4 (17:51):
So that's a healthy thing.

Speaker 1 (17:52):
Then too, I think conspiracy theorists are more sane than not.
I think that where.

Speaker 2 (18:01):
Sometimes they can skew out of this world to some,
I think that everything is based in some sort of truth,
and so the idea of the Locknus.

Speaker 1 (18:14):
Monster and Bigfoot and a lot of those things.

Speaker 2 (18:17):
I know their folk tales are things told across generations
to where maybe the story changed, But I don't think
that those things are not true.

Speaker 1 (18:25):
How do we sit here and believe.

Speaker 2 (18:26):
That dinosaurs walk this earth and that we evolve from monkeys, but.

Speaker 1 (18:31):
Not believe in those things? Like how do we not
believe in mermaids or sirens? So to speak?

Speaker 2 (18:37):
How do we not believe in Bigfoot? Who is to
say which things are made up and are not? Essentially
you know what I mean? So to me, I think
that conspiracy theorists are healthy and sane and more logical
than those that just are believe anything accepting and believe

(18:59):
anything are told.

Speaker 1 (19:00):
Okay, do you disagree?

Speaker 4 (19:03):
No? I think that's good. I think that's fair.

Speaker 5 (19:06):
I think I was thinking about like the image of
you with your tin hat with your but and I
think that's what people normally think that the conspiracy there is,
but you're describing it that way. I think makes a
lot of sense. Right.

Speaker 4 (19:20):
You're you're you're questioning and and.

Speaker 5 (19:22):
Allowing yourself not to be manipulated because you have a
healthy understanding of kind of what the facts are and
you're trying to make sure it doesn't get bent by
the way, right, Like, you respect science, but not the
way that people may twist the.

Speaker 4 (19:36):
Turn the results.

Speaker 5 (19:37):
But you're you're saying it's it's the way that people
twist the results.

Speaker 4 (19:41):
After all, it.

Speaker 2 (19:41):
Is yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, it's the way that.

Speaker 1 (19:44):
It's delivered to us.

Speaker 4 (19:46):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (19:46):
And so speaking of that, let's get into to me politically.
This is why I overall question science, but I did
want to get into some of.

Speaker 1 (19:58):
The political conspiracy theories.

Speaker 2 (20:02):
And I would love for us to debate them just
a little bit if we believe them, if we feel
like there's any truth to them, or if we feel
like someone created it out of fucking thin air. And
I want to loop these two a little bit together.
I want to go.

Speaker 1 (20:17):
Into Hurricane Katrina.

Speaker 2 (20:21):
The conspiracy theory around Hurricane Katrina is not the actual
hurricane that took place, but it is around the levees
that were intentionally destroyed at the ninth word, sacrificing the
people in homes there to protect more affluent areas. I
want to relate that also to nine to eleven being
an inside job, because I think both of those have

(20:43):
political groundings, and so a little bit of my.

Speaker 1 (20:49):
Thoughts around this.

Speaker 2 (20:51):
So when I was so when Hurricane Katrina took place,
I was in Florida, which also gets ignored as a
state that also was hit by a Hurricane Katrina. So
Hurricane Katrina actually started what is that the Atlantic Look

(21:11):
at me, don't y'all know?

Speaker 3 (21:12):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (21:13):
No, no, no, no, no, no, no no.

Speaker 2 (21:14):
It started The Atlantic is is east coast, right Pacific
is west coast. So it started in the Atlantic Ocean,
went over the islands, went over Florida, and then picked
by going back into the Gulf because the Gulf has
has hotter water, became a Category five before making landfall
in New Orleans, also affecting Mississippi and the Panhandle as well,

(21:39):
so Antexas as well. So that ruining the ninth ward,
which if you guys look back into what the ninth
ward looked like, I believe this took place in five
or six around then, and it's because in six I
was in Atlanta and a lot of the refugees moved
to Atlanta, which is also I know we align Atlanta

(22:03):
with being black, Andy black for other reasons. There was
a strong impact on the migration from the creole black
community in New Orleans relocating to Atlanta in after Hurricane Katrina.
Now why I believe the conspiracy theory about this being intentional.

(22:24):
What we saw in terms of the aftermath is what
we see happening today in Flint.

Speaker 1 (22:31):
The way that there was not.

Speaker 2 (22:37):
A response done by George Bush, who doesn't like black people.
The only quote we will do from Kanye ever, moving forward,
I think aligns much in what we're seeing with redlining
happening and where we see gentrification happening in certain communities.
This is what we see in what I think we

(22:59):
all believe you've happened with the fires this year in California.
I think when we have ways in which to blame
natural causes and natural disasters, I think there's ways to
implement change and the way you want it where it
looks like a.

Speaker 1 (23:16):
Quote unquote accident.

Speaker 2 (23:19):
I'm just gonna say that in terms of nine to
eleven being an inside job.

Speaker 1 (23:24):
I ain't gonna hold y'all if you are a millennial.

Speaker 2 (23:30):
So nine to eleven took place, and this is gonna
age y'all, not me. Nine to eleven took place for
me when I was in fifth grade. I was in
fifth grade. My mom came and got me, and I
think I was more heartbroken, if I'm not mistaken, that
was the year that we lost Aliah in left eye.
Aliyah left eye, and nine to eleven all took place,

(23:51):
if I'm not mistaken, how I remember it? They had
all took place in my fifth grade year? How right
or wrong?

Speaker 1 (23:57):
Am I?

Speaker 3 (24:00):
Yes?

Speaker 4 (24:00):
Yep?

Speaker 1 (24:01):
Left I was shortly after.

Speaker 4 (24:02):
Shortly after two thousand and two, eight thousand two, yep,
But I.

Speaker 2 (24:05):
Was still in I was still in fifth grade. I
was still in fifth grade, so that year was a
lot for me. Also, all I remember is my mom
picking me up because of course, living in Orlando, they
thought Disney World was next.

Speaker 1 (24:21):
I don't know fucking why, but nigga.

Speaker 2 (24:23):
Living in Orlando, twin towers get hit, the Pentagon gets hit,
Orlando just thought we was on the We was on
the map. So my mom came and got us from school.
And it wasn't mind you. At this time, I had
never visited New York. I had never visited DC, so
I wasn't aware of what those buildings meant, the height
of them, the impact, what took place in those buildings. However,

(24:46):
if you go down the rabbit hole, which is what
I will call possibly this episode, if you choose to
go down the rabbit hole, everything around nine to eleven
absolutely looks like it was intentional.

Speaker 1 (24:59):
The way the people went.

Speaker 2 (25:01):
Through our schools, the way if you watch the videos,
it looked like bombs are being set up. Those buildings
should not have collapsed in the manner that they did,
which is why I'm relating it to the levees.

Speaker 4 (25:11):
Mhm.

Speaker 3 (25:12):
Can I ask you a question on that?

Speaker 4 (25:13):
Go ahead?

Speaker 1 (25:14):
Please?

Speaker 3 (25:14):
The area?

Speaker 1 (25:15):
Which area?

Speaker 3 (25:18):
What do you call it?

Speaker 1 (25:19):
Financially financial?

Speaker 3 (25:21):
I never heard it that way. Yes, that's crazy.

Speaker 1 (25:23):
You're not really from New York, don't I word.

Speaker 3 (25:29):
Like? So broke up that area the residents. Was that
always there or did that?

Speaker 4 (25:39):
Uh?

Speaker 6 (25:40):
Came about after the rebuilding in that area. That's what
I couldn't remember, you know, Like, if you go down
let's say, off the West Side.

Speaker 4 (25:48):
Highway in the community battery Park Park area, right.

Speaker 6 (25:51):
Those those residential properties, were those were there prior to
nine to eleven or did that come up after.

Speaker 4 (25:59):
Now they were there? Was someone.

Speaker 1 (26:04):
I mean again a little bit, not all the way,
but just to me, to me, and.

Speaker 2 (26:10):
Again this took place when I was ten eleven years old.
In hindsight, seeing where we currently are at with Trump
and his navigation of these tariffs with China, I think,
seeing what's happening with the war between Gaza and Israel,

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I think knowing that the US really wanted their hands
on whatever oil and natural resources that there were over there,
I think this was the way to say this is
a war on terror, and I think the terrorist attack
was something that would instill fear in America. And at

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the time, mind you, this is before I believe, just
from again being a nineties baby, it was before we
as specifically black Americans and even a lot of Americans
in general, we're traveling overseas, we believe the rest of
the world was a third world country and the US
was the top, the best, the biggest, the best place
to live, and that we were protecting this sovereign country.

(27:16):
We now know it's a fucking crocod shit We don't
live in the best fucking country in the world.

Speaker 1 (27:21):
We don't even have free health care.

Speaker 2 (27:22):
Like we've traveled enough now to see that there is
better means of life elsewhere.

Speaker 1 (27:26):
But I think we.

Speaker 2 (27:27):
Were so ignorant. We leaned into the ignorance of believing
we were the best country.

Speaker 1 (27:31):
That we were.

Speaker 2 (27:33):
We were all pro war during that time to get
this Osama bin Lada nigga.

Speaker 3 (27:40):
Yeah that that.

Speaker 2 (27:42):
I do think that nine to eleven was an inside job.
I do also in saying that, want to say that
real lives were lost but dropped and I don't know
where you put it in here. You ain't put it
in here. I'm gonna say politically, they don't give off

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fuck about our lives because you don't have it in here.

Speaker 1 (28:13):
But that Malaysia Airline disappearance, Oh you do. That's the
Sibery Okay, So we'll get it, Okay.

Speaker 2 (28:17):
We'll get into the sci fi aspect of it later
before we go there, though, I do want to ask y'all,
do you believe it we're talking politically, if we're talking powerful,
do you believe in the Illuminati, the Freemasons?

Speaker 1 (28:30):
And also.

Speaker 2 (28:33):
That the end of the world there is a bunker
under the Denver Airport.

Speaker 5 (28:38):
I want to know y'all's beliefs on that. Yeah, I
mean there's some of them I could I could get
with you believe. I think there is I think power.
I think there is a group of people who play
with power. Okay, and they do think that's like the
idea that the nine to eleven job inside job, like
some people think it was to like, uh, you know,
they put money on stock on the airplanes and so

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like they had advanced notice that this was going to happen.

Speaker 4 (29:03):
It happens, and then.

Speaker 5 (29:05):
You know, nobody flew for a while, but that only
lasted for a short amount of time. So then if
you put money into delta, you know, six months later, okay,
you can get your bread again today.

Speaker 2 (29:17):
But you're leaning into the dollar amount of it. But
do you think that there is a society of people
that is that are like sacrificing their their family members
and becoming a part of this.

Speaker 4 (29:28):
I don't know if they're sacrificing their family members, but now.

Speaker 1 (29:30):
You know that's what they say is the same way.

Speaker 4 (29:32):
But but that's the whole thing about the conspiracy.

Speaker 5 (29:34):
It has to be close enough to I don't think
they're sacrificing family members, but I think they're sacrificing stuff
they get bread, Well, it's.

Speaker 3 (29:40):
A ritual aspect of it.

Speaker 1 (29:42):
There we go.

Speaker 6 (29:42):
If you have an organization or society so to speak,
they create criterias for you.

Speaker 1 (29:49):
Like when you pledge to a fraternity, I'm doing it.

Speaker 6 (29:53):
But when you or or or what gangs?

Speaker 3 (29:57):
Okay, there we go.

Speaker 6 (29:59):
Sometimes if you're from a certain area, you automatically are
in or if you want to take it a step
further and actually do it.

Speaker 2 (30:05):
When we talk memberships, y'all, we're not talking about just
the financial buy in like a Soho house. We're not
talking about planning fitness for the seventeen dollars.

Speaker 6 (30:13):
Okay, but even Soho house right criteria. Everything has a
criteriaciety you pay. But I'm saying it's micro. We all,
we all participate in that stuff. So that's why you know,
organization or it don't have to be nothing that's harming
people per se, but just to stand out from the rest,

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to stand above the rest.

Speaker 2 (30:36):
You know what made me believe in more of and
maybe the Illuminati is not the real name of it,
but you know what made me believe in the illuminati,
got your mind sold you ready?

Speaker 1 (30:48):
Scandal?

Speaker 2 (30:49):
When I watched Scandal, I knew that. And again leaning
into political politics politics, there are a group of people
like the way that Okay, and this is getting even more.

Speaker 1 (31:05):
Way that all of these tech giants are just dying.
They're not just dying.

Speaker 2 (31:13):
R I p to the black pilot, that helicopter that
just fell into the Hudson. The fact that he was
a high C suite level exec at Simon's semens.

Speaker 1 (31:27):
I don't like to call the seamens because you know.

Speaker 2 (31:29):
But the fact that he was the fact that he
was the CEO said all I needed to know.

Speaker 3 (31:35):
And why do you think that happens?

Speaker 5 (31:37):
Though?

Speaker 3 (31:37):
When you hear the stories, what is it that? Why them?
If that's the case, why them? Yeah? Is it something
they know?

Speaker 1 (31:44):
Yes, it's something they know.

Speaker 2 (31:45):
It's something that they saw, it's something it's someone that
they crossed, and it's something.

Speaker 1 (31:50):
That they don't want out.

Speaker 2 (31:54):
It's why these whistle blowers for Boeing and all the
things suicide that ain't happen. These niggas was out here
about to tell on y'all. I mean to me, they
stop participating in the rituals ing saying they do that
they get they get a sense of morals, whether out

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of nowhere or whether they feel like they're no longer
living life. Right, it could be religious, which and we're
not even gonna get into my conspiracies on religion. But
but yeah, like to me, it's they know something that
they shouldn't know. And speaking of I do want to
get into let's get into the sci fi elements of conspiracies,
because I want y'all to know I believe in all

(32:38):
of this. I want you to do.

Speaker 5 (32:39):
Denver Airport, Denver Airport, I ain't gonna hold y'all watch paradise.

Speaker 1 (32:45):
Shout out to Sterling K. Brown.

Speaker 2 (32:46):
There is a reason why the mountain of in which
they create a whole new society after the world is
supposed to quote unquote end.

Speaker 1 (32:56):
There's a reason why that mountain is in Denver, right.
The conspiracy is that there is.

Speaker 2 (33:00):
A whole bunker made under the Denver Airport that high
clearance individuals will have in the sense that we have
the end.

Speaker 1 (33:11):
Of the world.

Speaker 3 (33:11):
I think they have it in several cities.

Speaker 2 (33:15):
So I think that there is And look at me now,
I'm getting geographical and scientifical here the fact that I
know Florida in the next hundred years may not even
exist because of risen sea levels is the same reason
why Manhattan is about to probably go under because the
weight of all of the buildings is rising sea level.

Speaker 1 (33:38):
I think that the pinpoint location of.

Speaker 2 (33:41):
Denver makes it where NOE makes it safe or whatever
that means.

Speaker 5 (33:46):
Do they so when they make a TV show out
of it for people who believe the conspiracy, are they
just like yo? And now they're just flauning it in
our face? Well, the person who believes that Denver is
a secret government in hiding and then they seed that
like Paradise is a TV show that talks about it
and puts it wide.

Speaker 4 (34:03):
Are they are they like? And that's the proof right there.

Speaker 1 (34:06):
There's there's a reason why aliens look like octopus. They
just told us the aliens is in the ocean.

Speaker 2 (34:13):
There's some something out there where someone done leaked a
little something. Maybe again, maybe they told that they're child like.

Speaker 3 (34:21):
I got a conspiracy already on you.

Speaker 1 (34:23):
What what do you believe?

Speaker 3 (34:25):
You walk with me?

Speaker 6 (34:26):
You know why they hide in that ships like us?
They don't want us to know that. That's how that's
how I don't want to say saviors, but.

Speaker 1 (34:33):
What you think the aliens look like.

Speaker 6 (34:35):
They came down and made human contact with us, they
will identify us as they family. Yo, we rocked with
y'all with the army, not the navy, and then we
just click up.

Speaker 3 (34:45):
Yeah, no, would you?

Speaker 6 (34:47):
No?

Speaker 1 (34:48):
No, I mean to me, it's not hidden anymore.

Speaker 2 (34:51):
We know Area fifty one is a real thing, do
we or is that a conspiracy?

Speaker 6 (34:56):
God?

Speaker 1 (34:57):
Area fifty one is where they hide in the aliens.

Speaker 3 (35:00):
I mean they tried to bump rush every fifty one
years ago. Remember that. No, I know, I remember during
the pandemic.

Speaker 5 (35:07):
I'm kind of I'm kind of following a king. So
they try to make they're trying to make aliens. They're
trying to make us racist against aliens when you're saying
they actually look like us.

Speaker 6 (35:15):
Instead, Why wouldn't you just let them go? You know
why they want because I think they'll see that they
look at it eyes.

Speaker 1 (35:20):
Oh no, no, no, let's be very no, let's be very clear.

Speaker 3 (35:23):
You'll see your whole twenty eight years on this planet.

Speaker 2 (35:26):
It's not a conspiracy, but it is why we are
introduced to AI. They want us to believe that things
are AI generated and not real, so that we are
questioning the reality that they are feeding us.

Speaker 1 (35:40):
It's like, do y'all have y'all.

Speaker 2 (35:42):
Seen the videos of like Kamala and Trump like drinking
and having guns.

Speaker 1 (35:49):
Like we are now in a space.

Speaker 2 (35:51):
Because these conspiracies are out quote unquote, They're not fake,
They're actually real. It is why we are being introduced
at a high alarming rate of AI just taking over
all industries because they they I think they want us
to question reality a little bit more because we know

(36:12):
more than what we're supposed to do.

Speaker 6 (36:13):
I saw an article yesterday where engineers said that we
should stop saying please and thank you when we enter.

Speaker 1 (36:20):
I thought that, woul ch.

Speaker 6 (36:22):
I'm like, bro, because it's taking up too much processing right,
I'm like, wait a minute, no, what if AI is
able to interpret feelings and compassion?

Speaker 3 (36:33):
Please, thank you? Hello?

Speaker 4 (36:34):
Hi?

Speaker 3 (36:34):
Why are we saying these things?

Speaker 1 (36:35):
I ain't gonna lie. I'm must be giving New York
to my chetch because when.

Speaker 2 (36:39):
I say I don't have no motherfucking manners with my mother,
first off, chatchy pt like Google Like I just be
like what, like my sentences don't even be making sense?
But it be what it needs to do.

Speaker 6 (36:54):
It tells you, it responds to you that way as
you tell it. It'll say you asked it to do something,
and it says, I'll hit you right back with a
response based on the cadence that you're given.

Speaker 1 (37:06):
Yeah, you gotta wait. Well, that's why I should be
taken long that I mean.

Speaker 2 (37:13):
I here's the thing. If we're leaning into sci fi robots,
we clearly see we have cars that are driving themselves.
I don't even think we can add robots and AI
and and artificial anything into a conspiracy theory. When they exist,
we see they're here here. I do want to lean

(37:35):
into a little bit more of the sci fi things. Recently,
Gail King, Katy Perry, uh, one of I think Bezos's
ex wife, some other whites, current John went up to
space for eleven minutes a minute. No, no, no, let's be
very clear, the same way we have yet to go

(37:56):
to the moon. The way that is a hoax.

Speaker 6 (38:00):
Okay, so these women did not go to space, and
now we got CGI, we got all types of shit
to enhance the imagery.

Speaker 2 (38:07):
I want to go back a little deeper into the
politics of it all. The submersible imploding. Nobody was on it.
Nobody from that submersible died.

Speaker 1 (38:22):
Hear me out.

Speaker 2 (38:24):
Even when we just saw what happened with the helicopter,
what did we see in the era of social fucking media,
a family photo of them in the helicopter from their
social media pages. We had three, three billionaires, one even
brought his son. Not one picture of any of them

(38:49):
getting into the submersible, mind you. Not a photo of
them getting on the boat that had to take them
out to the ocean to be dropped into the submersible.
Nothing to be fair too. I don't know if anymore
the families stopped talking. I think that those billionaires knew something.
Them niggas didn't want to die, so like gone girl,
they fake they does and they went no. I think

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they completely changed their their everything. Their identities became new people, passports.
They didn't change the color of their hair because apparently
somehow they done burned off their fingertips.

Speaker 1 (39:26):
They different people, and maybe not even fingertips. There's so many.

Speaker 2 (39:31):
Ways again, with technology, bro, you can you can finesse
any and everything.

Speaker 3 (39:35):
Now, how much does it cost to do that?

Speaker 1 (39:37):
Nigga? They're billionaires, they got it. They got the money.

Speaker 3 (39:40):
What they say you change no, no, no no no.

Speaker 1 (39:43):
Probably a billion out of their multi billions.

Speaker 2 (39:49):
Listen to me in terms of the way we receive
the information what people are telling us is and why
it's not X y Z element op You have to
question and everything them women? First off? First off, First off,
we just saw a whole niggas was supposed to go

(40:12):
to space for like two months and ended up there
for over a year. Right we saying we sending for
just rich wealthy entertainers of all people up to space
for eleven minutes?

Speaker 1 (40:27):
Make it make sense.

Speaker 2 (40:28):
They went up there in full glam look looking like
they was on a set. I don't believe it. Why
are we being told this, What was the reason for it?
Why are we spending our us dollars on that as
a mission when we have so many other things to
worry about. Bro, it's a fucking distraction. You're not gonna

(40:52):
tell me it's not. Do y'all believe that? Then women
went up to set, y'all that they went up to space.
Let's be very clear too, Gail great acting. Let's give
her an oscar like Oprah's making me do it. Bitch,
you are you eating our pussy. We do think you are.

Speaker 1 (41:07):
But why the fuck is Oprah convincing you to go
to space? Mind?

Speaker 4 (41:11):
You?

Speaker 2 (41:13):
You you like you like us, Yail, you better tell
Oprah to take her ass the space.

Speaker 1 (41:16):
If you don't want to go.

Speaker 3 (41:18):
I think Oprah got good.

Speaker 2 (41:21):
Listen, listen, I'm not sitting here talking about Oprah's poompum.

Speaker 1 (41:28):
What I eat it for some bread? Yet? For some bread?

Speaker 2 (41:31):
Do you know how much money she got? Do you
know how much money she got? I'll sit here and
bark like a dog for her ass.

Speaker 1 (41:38):
Steedman, whatever they want.

Speaker 4 (41:39):
Me to do. We're what's the last time people seen Steedman?

Speaker 1 (41:44):
We're not gonna make Stemen CONSI that's a good one.

Speaker 4 (41:47):
I think that's a good one. You know what, I
think he died like five years ago.

Speaker 1 (41:53):
We're not doing that.

Speaker 4 (41:54):
Cod. I think he died during COVID and we don't
know where he's at.

Speaker 2 (41:57):
Okay, you know what, Speaking of COVID, the conspiracies around COVID,
they said that five G cost COVID. There were multiple celebrities,
including that of Carrie Hilson that came out and said
it the Wuhan lab again, seeing that now we're raising
the tariffs the way we are.

Speaker 1 (42:16):
I just think that they wanted us to hate China.

Speaker 2 (42:21):
I think that that was the beginning of us rifting
that war. Now seeing too, like the tariffs and all
like all of that, the vaccinations around it.

Speaker 1 (42:31):
I'll be honest with y'all.

Speaker 2 (42:33):
I got vaccinated. I ain't do the fake I ain't
do the fake vaccine. I did do to fake COVID
tists because the bitch you wanted to get on a flight.
Once we all realized photoshop was happening, and I was like,
this is all this, this is all really not none
of it makes sense, like we can literally photoshop it.

Speaker 1 (42:49):
There's it was dumb. It was dumb.

Speaker 2 (42:52):
I did get the vaccine, however, and I know at
one point they were saying that the vaccines would lead
to infertility, the vaccines would turn us into zombie, the
vaccines would start killing us off. I'm gonna tell y'all now,
if the end of the world is that everyone who
got the vaccine turns into zombies, I'm fine with that
being the ending of my life. I would rather be

(43:14):
a zombie than have to run from the zombies. I
watched enough Walking Dead. I am not gonna sit here
and try to live and be a part of the
world that has to fight zombies. I'm not gonna do it.
I'd rather die, I'd rather become a zombie. I'd rather
get eaten. I'd rather get bitten, just like they did
in Sinners.

Speaker 1 (43:32):
Make me.

Speaker 2 (43:33):
I'm not fighting them, niggas, Okay, I'm not doing it.
I'm not doing it for y'all. And again, I want
to respect all the lives that were lost here in COVID,
because that was very real. But do you believe in
the conspiracies around COVID that it was made for, Well,
there were a few. They believed it to be population control.

(43:56):
They believed it to be a way to stop the
alarming rate of climate change and global warming because of
all the things that were going out into the air and.

Speaker 1 (44:06):
Things like that. There was also a.

Speaker 2 (44:09):
Huge proponent to it being a money grab, specifically for
the US with the pharmaceutical companies.

Speaker 1 (44:17):
I believe that you believe that.

Speaker 5 (44:19):
Or to save money, if you get rid of all
the old people, we don't have to pay out Social
Security because we ain't got it so.

Speaker 4 (44:27):
Cleared the ledger of the old people.

Speaker 6 (44:28):
Well, you think as well, mission must have failed then, right,
because how much old people that you know passed away.

Speaker 3 (44:35):
I don't have any data in front of me.

Speaker 2 (44:36):
But well, I mean with them even threatening social security
right now, you have seventy million like people who are
within that age range that may now have to go
back into the workforce or not be able to access
because they're not allowing them to use the government issue
tablets either to access like the things that they need

(44:58):
to issue.

Speaker 1 (44:58):
It's it's really, it's really fucked up, which is why
again I.

Speaker 2 (45:01):
Questioned fucking everything, because y'all this is all at the
hands of people. If we even claim that COVID like
initiated from a lab.

Speaker 1 (45:12):
That's made by people, Yeah, it's made by people.

Speaker 5 (45:18):
Do you think that more people so if conspiracy let's
say a lot of them have to do with like
population control, this happens to kill people, yes, right, And
watching our government today and how they're don't operate so well,
do you think that we're ripe in a time for

(45:38):
more conspiracy theorists to like, for more people to cross
over and turn into becoming conspiracy theorists. It feels like
it's a good time to be a conspiracy I think, yeah,
I think that we all should.

Speaker 6 (45:49):
What is the difference between the designer bag on Canal
Street and the one in the mall?

Speaker 3 (45:59):
Designer said, name store?

Speaker 1 (46:01):
What does that have to do with anything?

Speaker 3 (46:03):
It's the same ship. That's the conspiracy, is it?

Speaker 1 (46:07):
No, no, it's not.

Speaker 5 (46:10):
But but what's the root of it? Like you know
what I mean, Like I feel like a good conspiracy.
There's the root of that that they're trying to control.

Speaker 6 (46:16):
China has came out and said the designer bags you
wealthy people lust for is the same ship that's on
Canal Street.

Speaker 2 (46:26):
No, no, no, there's a difference in the leather that's used.
It's not this I mean to be fair. Yeah, like
when you for the designers and stuff, like something can
be discarded because something was off in the print or
there was a like there are fakes that actually do
come from the manufacturers, but there are also actual fakes.

Speaker 3 (46:47):
But they're not fake they are.

Speaker 1 (46:48):
No, No, there are actual fakes though. That's what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (46:51):
Like, so China's calling bluff.

Speaker 5 (46:55):
Or a saying like they're transferring wealth to the poor
because those on Canal Street or real anyway.

Speaker 1 (47:02):
Illion I mean, I mean, but but that's the thing it.

Speaker 2 (47:07):
I mean, but that's that's more of a psychological thing
than anything. Like we specifically as human beings, will identify
something as being more valuable because it's associated to a brand.
That's that's like typical, that's fashion, that's like literally medicine,
which is why you have the generic version that uses.

Speaker 1 (47:25):
All the same ingredients.

Speaker 2 (47:27):
You have the name brand cereal and the not name
brand Cereal, but it's all the same shit, right, But
that comes from us being a more classic society than
anything else, and how we view socioeconomic like layers in
which we exist, Like like you know what I mean,
Like when I grew up, I went to pay Less

(47:48):
and my mama bought me the Adidas with the four stripes.

Speaker 1 (47:50):
That means they wasn't really Adidas.

Speaker 2 (47:52):
They look like the same exact shit, they just had
four stripes instead of three.

Speaker 1 (47:57):
And from a little kid, you get made fun.

Speaker 2 (47:59):
Of for not having the name brand shoes and the
real ship. So this is a psychological thing that's you know,
just put into however, but I don't see that as
a as a conspiracy.

Speaker 1 (48:13):
No no, no, no, no.

Speaker 2 (48:16):
Anyways, before we get out of here, uh, normally, when
we have guests, we like to call them out. I
have not looked through this, but Jason, you have looked
up tweets about certain conspiracies.

Speaker 1 (48:31):
And you what you want to know if I still
believe in them or not?

Speaker 4 (48:34):
Yeah, I guess. Let's get the story.

Speaker 5 (48:35):
How you got caught up in these and you still
believe Yeah, exactly, I'm taking away your agency. You were
participating in this. So see this was the Wayfair conspiracy.

Speaker 1 (48:47):
I'm not gonna hold you.

Speaker 4 (48:50):
Let's see how did I get this one?

Speaker 1 (48:52):
I believe that ship well, the way Fair conspiracy.

Speaker 2 (48:57):
We talked about it actually in I think episode two
or three. I believe them kids was being sold in
them cabinets to the highest builder. And I love that
y'all was mad at Wayfair because I made sure I
got all of the deals.

Speaker 1 (49:15):
I do believe it. I do believe that.

Speaker 2 (49:17):
There are sex trafficking rings. I do believe that there
was an Epstein Island. I do believe did he had
the parties they say he had.

Speaker 6 (49:25):
I believe in Arty broke. The way it was built,
the way they build it up, it seemed too real.

Speaker 2 (49:30):
Yet no, they was literally selling twenty thousand dollars cabinets
with kids in them. It was really the kids being
sold allegedly. I'm not gonna lie. All these conspiracies are alleged,
but in my mind they realist.

Speaker 3 (49:44):
Fuck.

Speaker 4 (49:46):
Here goes another alleged one for you.

Speaker 5 (49:47):
Then this is your tweet way back in April twenty thirteen.

Speaker 1 (49:51):
Wait not, you tweeted me from twenty thirteen.

Speaker 4 (49:53):
I'm scared, you said. I'm a firm believer.

Speaker 5 (49:56):
Somebody let me know when the conspiracy videos start coming
out hash tag Boston bombing.

Speaker 4 (50:02):
What are you talking about, man, I must.

Speaker 1 (50:05):
Have just watched the documentary or something.

Speaker 2 (50:08):
The Boston bombing was during the marathon, right, yeah? Hm, again,
I don't know. I feel like they just wanted to
kill some niggas. How many people ended up dying from
the Boston bombing?

Speaker 1 (50:19):
No, no, no, it's Boston. There weren't many niggas. It was white.

Speaker 2 (50:24):
You know what, It wouldn't be surprising. Do we have
a list of those who died during the Boston bombing?

Speaker 1 (50:30):
Because I bet you.

Speaker 5 (50:30):
They're a CEO or a tech that bit, I bet
you you know that makes.

Speaker 6 (50:38):
There's never a follow up. We always an executive for
this and that's it.

Speaker 1 (50:42):
There's never a fire.

Speaker 2 (50:45):
I would be curious to know, or if it was
somebody like a like a Monica Lewinsky, is somebody who
was sucking off maybe someone like you know what I mean,
like someone that knew something that they had to get
rid of. And again, like we talked about nine to eleven,
it's easy to align with.

Speaker 1 (51:05):
Acts of terror. So yeah, damn not me.

Speaker 2 (51:10):
And you know what's crazy, we haven't really talked about it.
I know that there is some recent docs out. I
might have to revisit what my thoughts were on the
Boston vombing. I'm not gonna lie. I question everything. The
only thing that I do not question, which I'm actually
upset that they aligned a conspiracy theory too, was Sandy
Hook because I do believe that that goes highly into

(51:30):
our loose gun laws as to why these school shootings happen.
But if you guys look into it, there was a
lot of conspiracy theories around, like there being actors as
people that were like the Sandy Hook shooting.

Speaker 1 (51:43):
I would never.

Speaker 2 (51:44):
Align any any school shooting with the conspiracy theory. I
do think that it just actually happens, and I think
they the kids do what they do because they come
from broken homes, and I blame the parents and they
should be locked up.

Speaker 1 (51:59):
But that's a whole nother story.

Speaker 4 (52:00):
So this, this is the last one allowed to see.

Speaker 5 (52:02):
I want to see how you treat your fellow conspiracy theorist.
I want to see if you're really or not. Yep, okay,
So this was you in twenty nineteen.

Speaker 1 (52:12):
Why are you doing this to me?

Speaker 5 (52:14):
So Ti, oh god, he said, first this then rape allegations,
and he's talking about Chris Brown because Chris Brown signed
a new deal and he became the youngest artist to
own his recording, his master recordings. And so you say,
look at TI's correlation of why Chris Brown is allegedly
in this situation.

Speaker 1 (52:34):
You know what's crazy.

Speaker 4 (52:35):
He now owns his master That is not a.

Speaker 2 (52:37):
Conspiracy as much as unfortunately people believe in money grabs. Also,
two things can be true. So I would align this
and compare it to what we just saw. Happened was
Shannon Brown announcing one hundred million dollar podcast deal potentially
and literally Shanna Sharp, I'm sorry, and then literally the
next day a fifty million dollar allegation and lawsuit.

Speaker 3 (53:03):
No no, no noes. Get through that, Get through that, and
you get the hundred million.

Speaker 2 (53:08):
First off, I go, hold you, two things can be true.
He released some text messages him being into race play
as a nigga who probably was alive right after slavery ended.
I have a problem with him being okay with saying
I want my baby Gravy and you to make a
big black baby. These are the text messages you allowed

(53:31):
from a white woman and also the video that we heard, right,
maybe that's it.

Speaker 1 (53:36):
Listen.

Speaker 2 (53:36):
All I know is I do not want any man,
specifically black man, to be falsely accused of rape, especially
seeing old girl done came out and said that she
that she lied about in Mattel must be very clear. However,
I'm not here for any coon and I don't like

(53:59):
but I no, no, no humiliation.

Speaker 1 (54:03):
These nuts.

Speaker 2 (54:03):
You are allowing a white woman to want your baby
Gravy to make a strong, big black baby.

Speaker 1 (54:13):
No, no, no, I'm sorry. I don't think shame, but I
am very much against race play. What are we talking about?

Speaker 3 (54:20):
You like? Yeah?

Speaker 2 (54:22):
And then unfortunately history is currently repeating itself.

Speaker 1 (54:27):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (54:28):
I here's the thing too, I want to be very
clear with my thoughts on this. As a woman, I
can absolutely want to have sex with you. I can
absolutely sext you, send nasty messages and want to do
all nasty things, and you, as a man, can still
violate me and rape me. Let's be those things can happen.

(54:49):
So the fact that these text messages are supposed to absolve.
If a woman says no and you ignore the no,
that is rape. So so a woman can want you
and change her mind.

Speaker 1 (55:02):
Let's be very clear. However, do I care no?

Speaker 2 (55:08):
Because he was in the race place, so good luck
to that man.

Speaker 1 (55:15):
That man all I know that.

Speaker 2 (55:16):
Yes, we can align this as well with the quote
unquote conspiracy that did he got too comfortable with the
whites and they wanted to tell him about himself in
terms of him suit he was trying to buy, He
was trying to buy NBC. He wanted to sue Diagio like.
So there are the conspiracies also around things happening to

(55:37):
black men that are garnering too much power or seeing
too much wealth, or accessing themselves into certain rooms, and
the whites don't want that shit to happen. Those are
conspiracies that are never going to go away. But people
also suck and make poor decisions as well. And I
don't want to align conspiracies to those things. I also

(55:59):
will never sit here and victim blame. I would like
more things to come out. Those text messages do not
absolve him of what is being alleged.

Speaker 1 (56:08):
That's all I want to say.

Speaker 2 (56:10):
Anyways, at the end of the day, I would love
to know if you guys listening are now considering yourselves
possible conspiracy theorists, or if you think that science is
backing we should believe it. And everything I just said
on this goddamn episode was a crop a fucking shit.

Speaker 4 (56:32):
I'm leaning you're leaning.

Speaker 1 (56:34):
I love that. I think I'm turning Jason into a
conspiracy theorist.

Speaker 3 (56:37):
I think we might have to do part two.

Speaker 6 (56:38):
I think when the listeners get ahold of this, I
think they're going to be like, you know what, what
about this?

Speaker 1 (56:42):
What about this? I would love a part two to this.

Speaker 2 (56:44):
I love diving into conspiracy theories and questioning it, into
what I believe to be true.

Speaker 6 (56:49):
And what I believe to be You would be a
great participant of the Secret Society, Nigga.

Speaker 1 (56:56):
I'm not you sacrificing shit.

Speaker 6 (56:58):
You said you would eat Oprah in order to succeed.
That's the next door. You got to you gotta go through,
you gotta eat Oprah's ass. Anyways, you know, go ahead
and get us out of here. We're not talking, okay, King?

(57:21):
You can hate it or love it either way? Are
you choosing to be selectively ignorant? Are you choosing to
be educated?

Speaker 1 (57:27):
Y'all?

Speaker 2 (57:27):
See you next week. It is another episode of Selective Ignorance, and.

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Speaker 4 (57:37):
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Speaker 5 (57:40):
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Speaker 4 (57:45):
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Speaker 6 (57:46):
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