Ep. 18 | Geographical Ignorance feat. Sy Ari da Kid

In this episode of Selective Ignorance, Mandii B is joined by personality, podcaster, and Atlanta transplant Sy Ari Da Kid for a spirited, sometimes ignorant—but always intentional—debate on the cultural divide between the North and the South, specifically New York and Atlanta. The conversation unpacks everything from fashion, food, and regional etiquette to politics, gun laws, and religion, all through a lens of lived experience. The hosts challenge one another on cultural bias, safety, and identity, while drawing bold comparisons between figures like Jay-Z, Martin Luther King Jr., and Pop Smoke. With A-King and Jason Rodriguez weighing in, the crew ultimately attempts to settle the score on which region has had the greatest impact on the culture. It’s hilarious, heated, and honest.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hey, guys, welcome to another episode of Selective Ignorance. However,

(00:03):
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let's get to this week's episode. All right, y'all, welcome

(00:47):
back to another episode of Selective Ignorance. And let me
tell y'all today, I'm gonna be highly ignorant because I
am actually swayed on the topic of this week's episode.
We are talking about geographical ignorance. Is Sorry to the
West Coast people, we are leaving you out of the
conversation this week, because we are talking about the let's

(01:13):
lean into the ignorance of the differences between the North
and the South, and specifically, I'm going to lean into
my personal experience between New York and Atlanta. I could.
I think Florida is its own topic if we really
want to be real. So I'm not gonna speak about
Florida either, but we're leaning into the geographical differences between

(01:34):
New York and Atlanta, Georgia, and I just want to
say a little bit of differences between the two that
I've experienced in my time being there. I will say
one hundred percent fashion we know the South cannot dress.
The North absolutely can. The North has better food than

(01:55):
the South because the South we are still dying from
the foods that we learned from sleigh avery. And in
terms of cost of living, I really listen, you said
the leading to the ignorance guy seriously. And in terms
of education, y'all know my thoughts on the South. We'll

(02:16):
get to that as well. It's why my guest today
did not know what macha was. Anyways, guys, we're getting
into it. It's another episode of selective ignorance. I'm joined
with my super producers Jason Rodriguez and A King to
assist in the conversation and lean into it. And y'all,

(02:37):
I'm here today with a good friend, a multi talented
entertainer who reps, sings, questionable writes, and hosts his podcast
sy Are Not Sorry Podcast, And most importantly for the
sake of this conversation, he was actually born in the
Bronx and moved to Atlanta at nine years old.

Speaker 2 (02:59):
Cy.

Speaker 1 (02:59):
Welcome to the podcasts.

Speaker 3 (03:03):
Listen, listen about to consent to everything you just said
at first?

Speaker 1 (03:07):
Okay, no, so I love that. What did you disagree with?
I would love Okay? So you were born in New York.
You've been living in Atlanta though since you were not okay, and.

Speaker 3 (03:20):
Which means okay, So what.

Speaker 1 (03:23):
Did you What did you disagree with? Do you live
your life as an Atlanta nigga or a New York nigga? Okay,
so let's talk about what what did you disagree with?

Speaker 4 (03:33):
Me?

Speaker 5 (03:33):
On?

Speaker 3 (03:34):
Like they can't dress? Thing was crazy?

Speaker 2 (03:38):
I give you New York is more fashionable, but that's
biased though, because they got fashion up there in fashion
is more you know, based in New York. That doesn't
mean Atlanta people can't dress though. There's a lot of
homosexuals out here doing anything.

Speaker 3 (03:52):
With the fashion.

Speaker 1 (03:54):
My god, there's a lot. So wait, they're the ones
that can dress. I'm just yes, okay, because they're the majority.

Speaker 2 (04:01):
I guess of them are design and stuff too, So
you can't anyway, And we know Atlanta is known for
some reason for high homosexuality.

Speaker 1 (04:11):
Yes, not known for.

Speaker 2 (04:15):
In the fashion in an area where it's that many
of them.

Speaker 3 (04:18):
That's tough.

Speaker 1 (04:18):
I'm not gonna lie. Just because you gay don't mean
you know how to dress.

Speaker 3 (04:21):
That's not what I said.

Speaker 1 (04:22):
Okay, it was leaning towards that there was no fashion.
Oh no, I don't think anyone can dressed down here, anybody. No,
I absolutely, every time I go out, it's ripped jeans
with sparkles, and then the girls dressed like they're all
going to yoga class. Everywhere, there's like no sens.

Speaker 3 (04:45):
Women don't really have to be fashionable though, let's be honest.

Speaker 1 (04:48):
Yeah, because they have nice bodies or whatever.

Speaker 4 (04:50):
But allegedly when you go to publics or Kroger's or sprouts.

Speaker 1 (04:58):
Wow, you add at the end of kroger just.

Speaker 6 (05:01):
Putting me, especially if you go between the hours of like.

Speaker 4 (05:06):
Nine am and like, oh yeah, once you dropped their kids.

Speaker 1 (05:10):
But now, real quick, I'm clearly swayed. It does seem
like I guess we'll start at the top then, because
I'm I'm a little swayed in my bias. Which city
do you think has had the most cultural impact on
us as a culture? And we'll get into so many
other conversations about about the North and the.

Speaker 2 (05:32):
South overall that's hard to debate. The reason being is
because New York created hip hop okay, which hip hop
to me is the most influential thing worldwide ever to me.
And with New York creating that, I will say in
recent times, Atlanta is making it very very you know,

(05:53):
hard to say that they're not in the race.

Speaker 3 (05:56):
I'm catching up and creeping up.

Speaker 2 (05:58):
I'm gonna go overall New York just because I'm big
on who created what. That's like saying like Kobe is
better than Jordan, but Atlanta's definitely Kobe.

Speaker 1 (06:08):
Atlanta is Kobe.

Speaker 3 (06:09):
Yeah, like it's it's it's not.

Speaker 2 (06:11):
And I think now I think Atlanta almost got to
a point where it looked like it passed it due
to just like the network and like how fast in
the effect of the sound was and how it's kind
of easy, not easier, but more it went worldwide a
little bit better as far as easy to mimic copy.

Speaker 3 (06:29):
So that's saying that that goes a big way too.

Speaker 1 (06:32):
I know Jason is definitely gonna just side with New
York because I don't even know if he's even been
to Atlanta. Jason is in Jersey.

Speaker 7 (06:42):
But you're from I'm from Delaware and then I moved.

Speaker 5 (06:46):
To New York.

Speaker 2 (06:46):
Oh, now you're off top Delaware.

Speaker 5 (06:49):
Yeah, Atlanta's loved though, Atlanta's people.

Speaker 7 (06:53):
But I some of the things that Mandy is saying,
I'm agreeing with you've been outside.

Speaker 1 (07:00):
We're gonna talk about outside because outside is different, but
also things have changed in New York and a king
year between both, like myself. So cultural impact do you
find it to be in the North New York or
down here in the dirty South Atlanta?

Speaker 4 (07:18):
I think that hold it down. I think to time
period matters.

Speaker 1 (07:25):
Okay, we'll get into that thing too.

Speaker 4 (07:26):
I think New York overarching, like to size point, all
of this is because of hip hop.

Speaker 6 (07:32):
Fact, and then I always say, were.

Speaker 4 (07:35):
Back home, right all our grandmother's they're not from Atlanta.
They might be from Florida, they might be South Carolina,
North Carolina. So it kind of it's the pipeline is there.
But not to be too diplomatic about it, but I
think Atlanta has had a stronghold on the culture musically
influenced for.

Speaker 6 (07:55):
For a little while.

Speaker 4 (07:56):
Now I think it's starting to dissipate a little bit,
but it's still it's never going to go anywhere. Just
like you got to go to New York to do business,
there's no way part of that is not coming down
in Atlanta.

Speaker 6 (08:08):
Got to tap into the cuach of Atlanta.

Speaker 1 (08:10):
So I'm leaning into this because I feel like I
spent my transformative years. So I spent the age of
twenty one to thirty four in New York. I did
go to high school, so I was here in Atlanta
and in six moved back again in oh nine to
twenty ten, and now I'm back at thirty four.

Speaker 6 (08:33):
So I was kid.

Speaker 1 (08:34):
Oh yeah, this is my third time living in Atlanta.
Good job, questionable. I don't know why the fuck I
keep coming back, but I do want to get into
the differences because I do feel like there was privilege
that I received living in New York. I think I
would have been a completely different individual had I stayed
in the South. And so I want to get into

(08:56):
a little bit of those And so y'all know, I
like to give y'all definitions because words me things. So
in the US, regionalism refers to the distinctive cultural, economic, political,
and social characteristics that define different regions of the country.
So culture to me, I am, and this might be problematic,

(09:16):
don't bleeve me out. But I never saw the little
curly haired Jews with the hats until I moved to
motherfucking New York City. The amount of people and the
culture that I was introduced to moving to New York,
I don't think I even listen. Twenty twelve, I moved

(09:38):
to New York Avenue D and Ditmus in Brooklyn, and
I was like, whoa, whoa, what are they? What are they?

Speaker 2 (09:48):
And hello flat Bush?

Speaker 1 (09:53):
But but I literally, I literally, at twenty two years old,
had to add like I did not know about Hasidic Jews.
I didn't know about their culture. I didn't understand why
the women had the long skirts, why the men had
the curls or the hats. And and to me, coming
from what I believe to be such a melting pot

(10:15):
in Florida, I was like, what I didn't what like
culturally right, And of course being in Flatbush in Brooklyn
when I moved up there, I'm in little Jamaica, so
it's it's literally and as a Jamaican, I'm like, oh
my god, this is a whole community. There's millions of

(10:36):
people that come from the island that my family comes from.
And I think that being in high school in Atlanta,
it's such a difference in being in a city where
you get to experience this is gonna sound ignorant, but
hear me out different blacks. So in Atlanta it's African Americans,

(10:58):
it's African Americans. In New York, you actually get to
experience the diaspora in a far wider range than you
do in Atlanta, which to me is why I feel
like there's such a a linear viewpoint of life when
you're in the South compared to when you get up
to to a place like New York. Like the just

(11:22):
the cultural melting pot of all the things I think
lean to bringing you to be more worldly.

Speaker 2 (11:30):
That right, that's true. And you saw them Jews because
you went to Brooklyn instead of the Bronx.

Speaker 1 (11:37):
No no, no, no, so okay okay, okay, okay. So then when
I went to the Bronx. When I went to the Bronx,
that was another thing. I don't know why. I think
they skip over Florida. That was my introduction to Dominicans,
the Bronx Dominicans in the way that I'll be also honest.
That another problematic take. They are so racist, I guess,

(12:00):
like the colorism between Dominicans and again this experience and
learning about different cultures and how people exist. I don't
get here in Atlanta like I do in New York.
I don't know, like, do y'all get do y'all get
what I'm.

Speaker 3 (12:16):
You're right, you're right. That doesn't happen in Atlanta.

Speaker 2 (12:19):
We don't have a lot of them, like a lot
of the like you said, like if I bring up
some Jamaicans, A lot of the Jamaicans here they come
from New York.

Speaker 1 (12:27):
Ah they do. Yeah, Like Sam, y'all remember Sam from
episode one?

Speaker 6 (12:32):
Sam?

Speaker 1 (12:32):
Sam was a favorite. Now, Sam was my mover that
didn't want to do ship or lazy, which is crazy
because normally you don't meet lazy Jamaicans. My daddy had
multiple jobs. Okay, Jamaicans be working, but not Sam. Sam
didn't want to Sam.

Speaker 5 (12:48):
I think Sam had other jobs. That's what took your
move so long. It was some other jobs in between
you move.

Speaker 1 (12:53):
Sam didn't want to do ship. Sam didn't want to
do That was the question I asked, You know what's crazy?
He had a business card, so it's giving official.

Speaker 2 (13:09):
Now.

Speaker 1 (13:09):
I do want to lean into the political landscape of
the two because although Atlanta is a blue city, it
is a red state and New York is so liberal.
I don't think I become a lifestylar swinger, non monogamous
ass bitch without living in New York. Honestly, since moving

(13:30):
to Atlanta, I have been reintroduced to the thoughts, views
and opinions of the Bible Belt, and so being here
and every Sunday, people going to church, people being more
traditional in terms of their views of relationships and the

(13:51):
ways in which women exist and men exist. I think
is so different because you're leaning into more of the church.
In New York. Niggas was that brunch. Niggas was going
thrifting on Sundays. They weren't in the pews, they weren't
with the Now do you see do you see that
difference between your family and friends in New.

Speaker 2 (14:12):
York compared to I don't know what nigga up they
go to church on Sunday.

Speaker 3 (14:17):
No, I'm being honest.

Speaker 2 (14:18):
I've never talked to a nigga off female in the
last twenty something years.

Speaker 1 (14:22):
Female is crazy. But okay, what do you call a
man or woman?

Speaker 8 (14:26):
Okay, science, I'm not doing this ship I episode.

Speaker 2 (14:36):
That's crazy.

Speaker 5 (14:37):
But you're drinking macha now, you gotta.

Speaker 1 (14:41):
Yeah, we teach you use something.

Speaker 2 (14:44):
It make you what like some drinks make you ship
quicker than you would have anyway.

Speaker 1 (14:49):
Y'all, y'all don't even know. We had to. We had
to tell Si what macha was. And we only had
to do that because he moved to Atlanta at nine
years old, because if he was in New York, he
would know what. You don't know what Maucha was? This
whole like every corner you got Macha t spots.

Speaker 3 (15:07):
Oh yeah, I never think yeah.

Speaker 6 (15:09):
So yeah.

Speaker 1 (15:09):
So between between church, what are your views? Do you
feel like you have more conservative views as being now
in the South compared to maybe the people that you
know from up north. Conservative views like the way you
from the way you vote to your views on I
would say women's rights, the views that you have in

(15:31):
terms of the family unit and family dynamic.

Speaker 3 (15:33):
Yeah, Like I.

Speaker 2 (15:34):
Mean, I don't really think I I don't think the
North of the South really are like persuade me on
that really, nah, because because of my household, you know,
like mom, I got both my parents in the crib,
so it's like I was raised under that, Okay. I
think my family's really originated from Camilla, Georgia, which is
like one of the first cotton field cities in Georgia
where the slaves were okay, and then my grandparents moved

(15:57):
to Harlem with nothing to Saint Nicholas projects were like Harlema.
My parents were raised in that, raised over there and
then they had their family. So but they was kind
of brought up in a church too. My my grandparents
were real church heavy.

Speaker 1 (16:10):
How many How many siblings do you have?

Speaker 3 (16:12):
I got to I got older brother oldesty, Okay, both
from Harlem though.

Speaker 1 (16:15):
Because I would say that that's also the different dynamic
that I see again, maybe not a conservative you, but
more of a lifestyle difference. People are more and apt
to have children in the South, and a lot more
of them because of the space, because of the cost
of living, like in New York, I feel like I've
been able to exist as a woman in her thirties

(16:36):
and not feel societal pressures to have kids because so
many of my peers in New York don't have kids.
It's a whole different way of life, Like you don't
have to conform to what people perceive or assume to
be kind of the way that you should exist or
live in New York and New York. Fuck though, like
the fact that I came down here niggas wanted they

(16:58):
was asking me about a house woman party, niggas in
my house.

Speaker 6 (17:05):
No, fuck no, that's kind of sad though it.

Speaker 1 (17:08):
Could be sad, but also there's not enough space. A
lot of people don't have the space that half people over.
But also like I enjoyed that how you live your home,
your vehicle in terms of when you went out and
met people, that normally wasn't a way in which you
viewed someone or judged them, Like because you didn't know
where someone lived, you didn't know if they lived with

(17:29):
they hunty and three siblings, You didn't know if they
lived with four roommates. You kind of don't know. I
loved that privacy, which is crazy because you don't consider
New York being a place with privacy because everyone is
living on top of each other. But in terms of
your personal space, you had it because you didn't invite
so many people into it. Here niggas want fucking dinner

(17:51):
parties ever, god damn week And I'm like, oh, this
is a thing here. To me, that's a bad thing.
And I say it's a bad Well, again, I don't
trust a lot of people. That might be my New
York way of thinking. I don't think everyone should know
where you live, the things in your home, like, like,

(18:14):
especially as a woman, like I've been told to like
make sure you always leave a pair of a man's
shoes at the door so that they think a man
lives there. And I don't have a dog. I have
a cat that in the game, you know he's swiping
it and people, but not really like that. So, uh,
I don't know. I guess that's that. That's my difference
between the two. King do you feel like your life

(18:37):
is different here in Atlanta compared to how you existed
in New York and for the better or for the worse.

Speaker 4 (18:45):
Well, you surrounded, you surrounded. You're surrounded by a lot
of legal guns. That's a cool thing because now the
playing field, you ain't got much a side on switching
amen to that.

Speaker 6 (19:02):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (19:03):
It's intentional in that regard.

Speaker 1 (19:08):
K Can I pause you on that?

Speaker 6 (19:10):
Actually hospitality is different.

Speaker 1 (19:11):
Can can we stay on the guns before we go
to the hospitality, because that's our hook.

Speaker 6 (19:18):
I will say, YT's go, let's get it.

Speaker 1 (19:22):
So a little backstory. When I was in high school,
I got a full ride to Saint John's University. Didn't
take it because as someone from the South, New York,
scared the ship out of me for what they portrayed
in the movies. They made it seem like you would

(19:42):
get mugged and robbed, and it was like the scariest
place to live. And that's what I thought living in
the South. I will tell you now that I feel
safer walking down East New York Brownsville, the Bronx at
all hours of the night then I do walking through

(20:04):
a Kroger in Atlanta, Georgia.

Speaker 5 (20:05):
You should.

Speaker 1 (20:06):
And it's literally because as soon as I moved here,
everyone was like, you got a gun, you got a gun,
you got a gun. Then they was like, but you
got two stories, you got two guns. And I'm like,
I love my friends, I love the people I know,
but some of them is tiktick boom, and so I

(20:27):
don't feel like they be getting mad at the smallest shit.
And I don't feel comfortable with how many people are
able to just purchase on conceal carry guns in Georgia,
Like literally to the point where I don't even want
my friends to have road rage, Like, but you better

(20:48):
not yell at that next car. You just let them go,
don't steal a parking spot nowhere a nigga might walk
out and just start shooting. And so to me, having
lived in New York for thirteen years, the fact that
I feel safer in New York than almost any place. Now,
let's be clear, there's people with guns in New York too,
but it's so hard to get guns and you can't
just get a license, you can't just carry that. I

(21:11):
feel extremely unsafe. I was just at holiday bar the
other day. I don't know if I'm telling on somebody,
but I don't care. I'm at Holiday bar and me
and my friend look over this nigga wrapped his gun
in a bandana as if that made it any better,
and tucked it in his denim jacket.

Speaker 5 (21:32):
God don't give your peace, gotta match your sneaky.

Speaker 1 (21:39):
And so to me, I'm just like in knowing that
we all just got out of a pandemic, knowing that,
knowing that there's a lot of undiagnosed tisam it's out here.
I don't feel comfortable in the South with how many people.

Speaker 3 (21:57):
Are carrying the background checks.

Speaker 1 (22:00):
Get the nigga. You could go get a gun at Walmart.

Speaker 6 (22:02):
No, but Mandy, that's the thing. I think.

Speaker 3 (22:03):
It's just get I get what you lose as you think.
It's not as lose as you think.

Speaker 2 (22:08):
Right, you still gotta when you when you're checking out
for your strap, it should be like, come back in
forty five minutes?

Speaker 1 (22:14):
Do you check a background checking forty five minutes? Nigga?
When I got hired at Goldman Sex, them niggas took
eight days for my background check. I don't think you're
I don't know how how much they're really but I
don't know how much how much you're really doing a
background check. If I can come in, say here, then
I found out it was only two hundred dollars. Nigga.
I thought I thought guns was like thousands. Who the

(22:36):
gun when I found it? Oh, that's what I'm saying. No,
I don't what does that.

Speaker 9 (22:45):
So?

Speaker 1 (22:45):
How much of the gun?

Speaker 2 (22:47):
If I if I'm advising somebody, I'm telling them to
start at the glock?

Speaker 1 (22:50):
How much of the glock?

Speaker 6 (22:52):
Your baby block?

Speaker 7 (22:52):
Four?

Speaker 2 (22:52):
Five hundreds?

Speaker 4 (22:53):
Shout the king for knowing how to purchase Listen, I
did when I came down here, was well, I'll be
coming down here for a while, but like, really really,
I went to a gun range.

Speaker 1 (23:03):
I get that game I want to go to. Can
I tell you how much? And I understand economically right
now there's people that are unemployed. Five hundred dollars is
still not a lot of money. I want it to
be hard to get a gun. Five hundred dollars is
still not a lot to purchase a gun. I don't
think forty five minutes is a thorough enough background check

(23:27):
to just be handing guns out to people.

Speaker 3 (23:29):
There's a lot of guns.

Speaker 6 (23:31):
I feel unsafe, But Mandy, think about it.

Speaker 4 (23:34):
Texas, Georgia, North Carolina, South Carolina, Virginia, Arizona.

Speaker 1 (23:41):
You ready, I feel unsafe in all them places. I
feel safer in New York than the entire South, including
text those.

Speaker 6 (23:48):
Allegal illegal guns how to shoot?

Speaker 1 (23:51):
Can we also be very clear, and I'm surprised that
as all men of color, y'all are saying this, not
only not only do we have the violence within our
own community, but we are saying this across all Red
States with crackers that are really motherfucking racists literally toting
around gun.

Speaker 6 (24:12):
That's why you have them.

Speaker 4 (24:13):
But single guns are not for to use for criminal activity.

Speaker 6 (24:17):
That's what is attached to you.

Speaker 1 (24:19):
So so here's the thing. Another story, two thousand nineteen.
I go to London. I go to London. I'm with
my friend Adriana. Niggas. There are London, America.

Speaker 2 (24:36):
Canada, Canada, Nigga.

Speaker 3 (24:42):
I've been around, I've been around, I've been outside.

Speaker 1 (24:49):
So I'm in London where I got a passport stamp
go ahead. So I'm in London with my homegirl and
we're going out. She has these guys pick us up
and we're They're like, yo, on the way, we got
to stop somewhere. Now, I'm a little bit more street

(25:09):
than I may come across. And I said, bitch, they're
taking us on a run. Nigga drugs, stop or pick
up whatever. They're either dropping off drugs or picking up drugs.
I don't know, but we're going further away from where
we're supposed to go. So I'm telling her, I said, yeah, nah,
I don't know these niggas like that. I'm in another country.
I said, Yo, tell them to turn around. We need

(25:31):
to be dropped off or let me out right now.
I've literally felt like we bitch, we going on a run.
So I let them know, a yo, whatever y'all got
to do, do that shit when I'm not in the car. Okay, Okay,
we'll turn around, we'll drop y'all off. They drop us
back off to the city center where we were gonna
go anyways for bars. No lie, we turned the corner,

(25:53):
boo boo. We get fucking pulled over. Not sure why not.
I don't know if they read a light, if their
car just looks suspicious, or if it's because we were
driving while black. Not sure. So we get pulled over,
my nigga, Not only do we get pulled over, dogs
get brought out. Another cop car pulls up and when

(26:16):
I tell you this, actually I'm lying. This might have
been twenty twenty one because this is in the height
of BLM. So we're over there in London and these
niggas they're looking for a blunt something. They take my passport.
My friend at the time has a German passport. We're

(26:37):
both sitting without our passports. And when I tell you
the way them niggas was talking to the cops, bro,
it triggered me to start crying because I literally was like, Yo,
y'all gotta stop, y'all gotta stop. Do you know Their
response was, cops here don't have guns. It's pelletts.

Speaker 3 (26:52):
Oh yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 (26:54):
The fact that black men getting pulled over that I
know is just about to take us on.

Speaker 3 (26:59):
A drug run.

Speaker 1 (27:00):
Their car is being searched. They were unlawfully also pulled over.
When I tell you the confidence in just existing and
the trigger that I had because the cops literally did
not have guns, They're like, like, there was no fear
in Yeah, that doesn't even exist here. We're scared of
our own police, We're scared in our own community. We're

(27:23):
scared of anyone else a different color than us.

Speaker 3 (27:26):
You like that.

Speaker 1 (27:28):
I actually would prefer that. When I lived in Singapore,
they we got toured around the city because you could
go around the whole island in twenty minutes. They literally
told us, you don't have to lock your doors. This
is the safest place, no crime. And when I tell you,
there's a difference in existing and living without the fear

(27:51):
of the fact that we literally have to saying, you
can't even eat ice cream in your own home anymore.
You can't go to church anymore. You can nigga both them, Jane,
that's who got killed eating ice cream in his living room. Correct, Like,
there was literally a nigga who got gunned down in
the confines of his own home eating ice cream. This

(28:12):
we can't go to church. We have more school shootings
than any other country in the world. So no, Like
when I'm sitting here and I'm now living in a
state that allows gun violence or not allows gun violence,
but allows guns so freely, No, it doesn't make me
feel safer. I hate that I have to defend myself
because other motherfuckers got guns.

Speaker 4 (28:34):
You seen a guy in New York that was poking
people in the face with a screwdriver or a night recently.

Speaker 6 (28:41):
I didn't want to.

Speaker 3 (28:42):
I didn't want to get into that. Niggas got wild
knobs up top. Don't do that.

Speaker 1 (28:47):
Wild knives up top.

Speaker 2 (28:48):
They got wild knobs on them, like stop going girls
do too, girls walking around with blades in New York.

Speaker 6 (28:54):
You got to see.

Speaker 2 (28:55):
That's what I'm saying that there's a former. First of all,
in London they keep a knife. Don't fucking do that,
but they do, they do.

Speaker 1 (29:02):
They do.

Speaker 3 (29:03):
Dumb black London niggas keep nobs.

Speaker 1 (29:05):
I'll tell you right now, I'll be able to do
this get away from a knife, or I could like, uh,
matrix bullets.

Speaker 6 (29:15):
What are we talking about?

Speaker 1 (29:16):
What are we talking about? Nah, nigga, let me fight
you because they're not. We're not at Jamaica. It's not
a machete, niggas. It's a little Swiss Sammy little John.
I'm just saying.

Speaker 6 (29:27):
I'm just saying, would you get a machete. You should
have a machete if you don't want.

Speaker 1 (29:31):
To shut the fuck up. I'm not chumping down coconuts
off a tree.

Speaker 6 (29:35):
No, I'm not walking around with a walk around me
in your crib like it. Have it in different places in.

Speaker 1 (29:40):
The crib, machete in different places in my crib.

Speaker 4 (29:43):
Somebody told me they have one in the living room,
one in the cabin, in the kitchen only in places
that they know they'll wear of just in case, not
because of And also with the little biscuit too.

Speaker 6 (29:53):
You should get a biscuit. We gotta get man.

Speaker 2 (29:55):
Y'all listen, you're your teacher to protect yourself from all
this nervous every time to give advice.

Speaker 1 (30:01):
I'm not gonna lie this is this is distressful to me.
I'm not gonna lie.

Speaker 4 (30:05):
I I don't like your friends asked you because they
just want to make sure that you're in the flow
of the culture.

Speaker 2 (30:12):
Right you're the scared ones.

Speaker 1 (30:14):
Well, apparently this is the problem. This is the problem too.
And I like that you just added this uh in here, Jason.
I want to let you guys know too, in terms
of when we talk about fear right, the fear of
carrying a gun. In New York, you can't carry, and
the penalty is four to fifteen years plus fines. In

(30:35):
Atlanta you can carry and you get two to five years.
And I think you only get two to five years
if you illegally possessed and you're carrying and you get
pulled over and you don't have the license, and then
of course give you out, you're killing niggas. You're gonna
go to jail.

Speaker 6 (30:51):
Legal guns though, legal people with legal guns.

Speaker 1 (30:54):
But my point in New York, there's not legal guns
doesn't really exist. First in not for civil and so
again I feel safer. I'm I'm gonna dodge that knife
before I dodge a bullet.

Speaker 3 (31:09):
Listen, have you been stabbed?

Speaker 1 (31:11):
Whoa whoa, whoa whoa. I've been bit by a dog.

Speaker 2 (31:15):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (31:16):
I'm not the ganates like, No, I ain't been fad
I did. I was in a holding cell for seven hours.

Speaker 2 (31:22):
Though.

Speaker 3 (31:22):
Have you seen a shootout on her?

Speaker 1 (31:25):
Have I seen a shootout out here? I've heard a
pop pop in my life?

Speaker 2 (31:32):
Ain't nothing happened for you? That's That's what I'm saying.
It's like, it's just wild, safe your side.

Speaker 4 (31:36):
Mandy has a story where she was I can't say allegedly,
but she was moving Molly.

Speaker 1 (31:42):
Oh, yeah, I already I shared that story.

Speaker 4 (31:45):
Already understand In the story, she never talked about her gripping.

Speaker 2 (31:50):
I didn't.

Speaker 1 (31:52):
I hired my homie.

Speaker 6 (31:55):
Had a little tutu on you.

Speaker 1 (31:56):
I hired my homie who was packing and so I no, no,
this was in Miami. This was This was in twenty twelve.
I was in the South, which, to be fair, growing
up in Florida and living in Miami, being from Orlando.
At one point at my younger age, I was like, Ooh,
I want a little pink cute gun. I thought guns

(32:17):
were cute. Again. Being in New York for thirteen years,
my mindset on that has completely changed, Like it just has.
Like I said, I literally felt safe in the Bronx.
I felt safe in I felt safe walking around at
two o'clock in the morning in the city just because
like all right, I mean, yeah, you might've had to

(32:37):
fight off some zombies, like especially on one two to
five in Lenox, but like, other than that, like I
mean I did, New York is not the scary place
that I assumed. Before we get into the next stepping though,
I do want to lean back into the differences because
when we talk about hospitality, I'm gonna sound awful right

(32:59):
now again m hmm. The actual service that you receive
in New York is far more hospitable. I don't give
a fuck if you say, sir or ma'am. They're quick,
they're efficient, they get you what you want. They're slow,
as fuck here, you're waiting forever and no one here
wants to work. I don't care. I'm been out to
enough restaurants. They're slow, they don't want to be there.

(33:22):
In New York, you get fast, efficient service. In the South,
it's like, well, damn, excuse the hell out of me
for bothering you at the job that you.

Speaker 2 (33:35):
Why you laugh?

Speaker 1 (33:35):
It is that as I think that that is a
myth Southern hospitality A motherfucker saying sir and ma'am does
not make them hospitable.

Speaker 2 (33:46):
Ma'am.

Speaker 1 (33:47):
It doesn't tell me what Southern hospitality looks like.

Speaker 6 (33:51):
To y'all.

Speaker 2 (33:51):
Southern hospitality is not really based in customer service, by
the way, I hate to break it to you break
it to me. It's more it's more based on the
sins of the homes you may go to. You're gonna
get more love going to a Southern home than a
New York home.

Speaker 1 (34:05):
Oh, thanks for the sweet tears.

Speaker 2 (34:06):
You can even get to a fucking New York home.
Like you said, I don't even know where you live,
so I can't even I can't even get greeted properly
because I can't go to your house. Whatever. Too In
the South, Like say, if I go somewhere beyond the service,
I can get my drink outside of the fucking register.
I can get to ketch up on my own. I
can actually bring some of these packets.

Speaker 3 (34:26):
To the house. In New York.

Speaker 2 (34:27):
I gotta hand my fucking chicken wings and fried rights
to the Chinese nigga, and he tells me, let me
know when to stop sporting your fucking ketchup. I don't
want a nigga sporting myself. But what so, Yeah, Paul,
what I'm saying is the Southern hospitality and more. You know,
in New York, if I'm cross the street, I can't
even look I can't even look at king.

Speaker 3 (34:46):
What I aim saying, fuck you looking at that? Is
that true FACTA good morning?

Speaker 2 (34:54):
You know, that's real word. That's facts in the South.
How you doing, some big dog fan. It's more I'm
talking about New York. Niggas are nicer when they come here.
Brooklyn niggas and Bronx niggas get along down here up North.
For some reason, they don't something about this.

Speaker 1 (35:10):
I ain't gonna when I go to and from work.
Maybe I don't want a niggas saying hi, life be
li like it, like.

Speaker 6 (35:17):
It's not good.

Speaker 1 (35:18):
Why is that not good?

Speaker 2 (35:19):
If you're gonna pick up New York, let's be honest
about some of the problems.

Speaker 1 (35:22):
You know what's crazy. I'm still swayed here. I mean,
I just moved back to the South, so I have
I mean, but there's still a lot of work that
they say good morning to strangers. So we're just going
back to what we're not suppout to talk to strangers. Actually, right,
that's crazy.

Speaker 4 (35:42):
See what I mean, playing fields even because you don't
it's the element of you don't know you might have.
But when I'm driving it out and about I let's
say you're driving the subdivisions or whatever.

Speaker 3 (35:53):
Where are you we're driving it. I'm about the south
of the North.

Speaker 6 (35:58):
Oh, the south you driving?

Speaker 1 (36:00):
He said, subdivision? Subdivision. I don't know Long Island, and
we don't count Long Island as we're talking about New York.
We're not Long Islands.

Speaker 4 (36:10):
Driving and you may see somebody coming out of the
house or they may be driving opposite of you, and
nine times out of ten is a wave talking about
talk about it? Right, Sometimes I feel weird. Sometimes I
do it without doing eye contact. I just see them
like you know, in the corner of my eye, I'm like, fact, howdy, neighbor,
do you do that in New York?

Speaker 6 (36:30):
Why do you fuck you waving that?

Speaker 2 (36:32):
Nigga?

Speaker 3 (36:32):
Come on, that's not help. I will tell y'all it's
not healthy.

Speaker 1 (36:35):
Man, you're lying.

Speaker 2 (36:38):
I'm not. It's true.

Speaker 4 (36:39):
One time I came off the out of the airport
and I was going to the rental car and I'm walking,
I'm hustling, and a lady was passing by. I said, Hey,
how you doing? And I stopped myself. I'm like, oh, ship,
I relaxed, like you know, what's great in New York?
I'm in atlant I gotta I gotta reciprocate talking about it. Yo,
how you doing?

Speaker 6 (36:58):
Have a good?

Speaker 3 (36:59):
Negative?

Speaker 8 (36:59):
You are you not?

Speaker 1 (37:00):
I'm negative. I'm not gonna lie. A handshake does not
supersede fast and efficiency. Like the fact that it's people
are slow down here, the fact that like I don't
know them, saying good morning and waving does not make
up for the lack.

Speaker 2 (37:18):
That's the hospitality. That's customer service. What you are right
about this better service. Had a fucking corner bodega than
there is at at a brush spot in atlantaout You
know what, I don't.

Speaker 1 (37:27):
Think I minded that when I lived in the Bronx
for the six years that I didn't even know my
neighbor's name. That was fine for me.

Speaker 3 (37:36):
That's not healthy.

Speaker 6 (37:37):
Why is it not healthy where everybody knows?

Speaker 1 (37:40):
Oh my god, do you not feeling?

Speaker 6 (37:43):
Do you know?

Speaker 2 (37:45):
Do you not that feeling?

Speaker 5 (37:46):
Bro that's a nice feeling. That's a nice feeling.

Speaker 1 (37:50):
We can't talk to him. Jersey don't count either.

Speaker 5 (37:53):
But I lived in Brooklyn for ten years. I moved.
I didn't know any of my neighbors when I was
in Brooklyn, moved to the burbs. My neigh picks up
my packages.

Speaker 2 (38:01):
How you doing today?

Speaker 5 (38:03):
That part you're gonna tell me about that new.

Speaker 2 (38:06):
Okay?

Speaker 9 (38:07):
No, no, no, no.

Speaker 1 (38:07):
First off, I don't know if y'all niggas packages. I
don't know if y'all got ring cameras. Every hour niggas
is getting their packages. So we're not talking about packages
in Atlanta because maybe when I say they be posting
the pictures, yo package Burglar, they be posting the pictures.
By the way, if any of y'all listening, which I
don't think my audience would be out here, stelling packages.

(38:28):
But I need y'all to know y'all are being circulated
on the ring app neighborhood apps. Your face is there,
and you will get caught. I'm yeah, I'm not gonna lie.
It's it's a little it's a little it's a little dodgy.
It's a little dodgy.

Speaker 3 (38:45):
Take packages in New York.

Speaker 6 (38:46):
Listen, Okay, busy you.

Speaker 1 (38:55):
Sorry for the last four years I had a door man.
I was in Long Island City. Maybe I'm sorry. You
know I was living in the pathhouse. Anyways, I do
want to get to this next segment because I do
want to get into the thens, the knitting gritty of
it to decide which city, however, has had the most

(39:18):
cultural impact on the culture essentially. So we're gonna make
a list here. If you're listening, I want you to
do it at your desk, in your bed, on your
notes app, wherever you're at. I want you to join
in with us, because we're gonna have a nice, little
healthy debate. We're gonna have Jason and a King kind

(39:40):
of determine who how we can blend our list together
to come up with the official top five for both
and then we'll use that to figure out which city
actually has the larger impact on us in general. Okay,
so pull out your list, because I got my list.

(40:02):
Do we want to start Jason with New York or
do we want to start with Atlanta.

Speaker 5 (40:08):
I think we should start with New York.

Speaker 1 (40:10):
Let's start with New York, sy Who who do you
have as the top five most influential people from New
York that has had an impact on the culture. The
culture the culture us is people. Let's say the names

(40:32):
you're your five and then do we question uh the
names that we're confused by? Yeah, okay, we don't question,
you know, we asked, Yeah, I want to know. Yes,
Let's get some hospitality.

Speaker 6 (40:45):
It's a nice guy.

Speaker 3 (40:47):
The way.

Speaker 1 (40:49):
All right, Let's let's start with with you signed. Let's
see if we have any of the same people. We
should have five most influential people.

Speaker 3 (40:56):
From New York from New York City. Let start with
jay Z of course. Okay, okay, go fifty cent.

Speaker 2 (41:06):
Mixtapes, Beef, Gangster, Undeniable, jay Z being the greatest of
all time, influenced every rapper that has any type of substance.

Speaker 3 (41:17):
I'm gonna go dip set.

Speaker 1 (41:19):
As far you're leaning into all music and yeah.

Speaker 2 (41:22):
And I would have went Wu Tang, but they were
so different that was hard to Mimic said, as far
as I don't want to, I don't want that.

Speaker 1 (41:29):
It's not an influential peep person.

Speaker 3 (41:33):
Did the diplomats that a group group said on Apple Music.
It is one whatever.

Speaker 2 (41:41):
But I feel like as far as fashion, and I
don't want to say gangming because it's kind of indict indicting,
but it is what it is, making people want to
bring blood ship to New York and all of that ship.

Speaker 3 (41:52):
Whatever I do, I'm sorry with you. I'm gonna go
Smack Smack DVD.

Speaker 2 (41:59):
I'm a one of the few people packing out venues
or a lot of artists ain't even doing battle rap
for sure. And now with the young niggas, I'm gonna
go pop smoke. Okay, he's got everybody doing that fucking
drill share, rest in peace okay on the young nigga's.

Speaker 1 (42:13):
Side, okay, thank Your list is trash. We have only
one shared person and in terms of impact the reason
so there's.

Speaker 9 (42:27):
Yeh.

Speaker 1 (42:29):
I think the last three people on your list don't
have a strong impact for the culture. As much as
you go ahead as much.

Speaker 6 (42:37):
As you think.

Speaker 1 (42:38):
So I'm gonna I'm gonna say my top five most
influential and based on my top five, if you want
to change your Atlanta to see the direction I'm going,
you can do that, all right. So the top five
most influential people from New York that has shaped the culture.
I have jay Z. Okay, by the way, y'all are
going to be uh surprised to know that I have
two whites on here. I have jay Z, I have Diddy, Damn,

(43:04):
I have Trump, I have our capone, and I have
Eric Adams. Now let me say why in terms of
how they've impacted the culture. Let me break it down. Okay,
jay Z, we've already seen what he's been able to
do in terms of shaping not only the culture from
from fashion to music to also being one of the

(43:25):
first people that we've seen go from the projects to
being a billionaire. I think that he's been able to
lead us as people to believe that anything is possible.
Did he? I had to put him because I believe
he shaped the music. If we go from the nineties
to everyone he's been involved with, with bad Boy from Nigga.

(43:46):
When I was in Miami, Cocoloso was the drink. What
he's done with a liquor brand, with the RockA, what
he's done with music. And I put Diddy in there
because he also is responsible for the Notorious Big which
could have been on here. But I put that influence,
that influence, and also we also know that we also

(44:10):
know the nigga is is what he's done now, he
locked up that you know, he did a lot. He
did a lot out here on a lot. Now Trump
in terms of influential for New York, I think you
can't not mention him in terms of how he's shaped
the landscape of real estate in New York, in terms
of the buildings he owns. I think right now with

(44:32):
him letting niggas out, I mean he let a sap Vale,
he let Wayne out, he let like he has impacted culture.
I mean he has impacted the culture. Okay, and he's
from New York. Let's be very clear that nigga is
shipping niggas out the country, that niggas impacted every fucking
culture and he's from New York. Al Capone, I think

(44:53):
that where we view and how we view gangsters, I
think they impacted him.

Speaker 2 (45:00):
Pop.

Speaker 1 (45:00):
I think they impacted movies film, Scarface, literally, The Grand
The Godfather. If we talk about maybe my fear of
New York being so violent, being so scary to exist
in I think even the way in which The Godfather,
and we've talked about this in one of our episodes,

(45:20):
the idolization of criminals throughout our culture. I think al
Capone had a big like.

Speaker 2 (45:32):
No, no, no no.

Speaker 1 (45:32):
I think al Capone was first though he was from
the eighteen hundreds.

Speaker 3 (45:36):
What does first guy to do with anything?

Speaker 6 (45:40):
Don't do that.

Speaker 1 (45:40):
We just said, this is why Kobe is after Jordan.
Niggas look up to somebody, I mean, I mean, depending
on who you're talking to you, and then I'll just
say it now, because I think that he's absolutely impacting
the way we view politicians and is shaping not only
the black community but New York as a whole. Eric Adams,

(46:01):
who is Eric Adams is now the governor of mayor
I'm sorry, of New York.

Speaker 3 (46:06):
The Mayor of New York influenced the culture of New York.

Speaker 1 (46:10):
Nigga. He's making it to where niggas can't even drive
into the city.

Speaker 2 (46:13):
You should have said, if she's gonna do all that
corner Okay.

Speaker 10 (46:21):
So so many got her list, that's my list, So
side I think so I think you agreed Diddy.

Speaker 3 (46:29):
No, she cooked me on Diddy.

Speaker 1 (46:30):
Okay, we both we both have we both have Diddy
of the list of who we said we need three more.

Speaker 5 (46:41):
But would you agree with what you think gets first?
Crack at a disagreement?

Speaker 1 (46:46):
Okay, yeah, what's the disagreement in?

Speaker 7 (46:48):
Do you want to do you want to switch the
component for the Gotti? Yeah, take eliminate Eric Adams.

Speaker 2 (46:53):
I want to swap fifty cents for all of that,
because regardless if he got a lot of his gangster
ship from we're saying influence. We're not saying just who
did first? Fuck all that. I don't like white people
on any list for influence in the culture. I don't. Okay,
I don't. Maybe if it was made and Giuliani because
he instilled a lot of yeah, it was like you

(47:14):
would get years for a bullet and he was like
big l literally had a line like my plan is
to get Juliani hung Like that's what the streets were saying.

Speaker 1 (47:22):
So I don't like, I'm not gonna lie.

Speaker 2 (47:24):
I don't like on that white people on the list. Shit, Yeah,
but if.

Speaker 1 (47:27):
We're well, if we're talking about the people from that
geographic location that has impacted the culture, I'm sorry, I
don't think.

Speaker 3 (47:36):
That impact of influence, Mandy, be careful both.

Speaker 1 (47:41):
I'm just asking, like an influence has an impact.

Speaker 2 (47:44):
Yeah, but it's not exactly the same.

Speaker 1 (47:46):
But but I mean, I mean, but but we can
talk is in terms of impact. You can have a
positive impact on something and you could have a negative
impact on something. And so I'm not gonna lie I
would be fine with removing Eric Adams and putting Mayor Giuliani.
I put Giuliani there in terms of how he impacted
the entire black community and possibly other other places, maybe

(48:09):
taking on the same things that he implemented into New York.
I'm not sure if there were other things influencer implemented,
but I do remember living in Florida and knowing more
about Giuliani than my own governor when I was growing
up in Florida. So Giuliani, especially during nine to eleven
and all of that got no, he was busy, wanted

(48:32):
to kill Okay, so keep I'm keeping al Capone, I
think for for how we yes from New York, I'm
keeping al Capone. And if you're going to talk about
gang should affiliation and all that with diplomats, I would
put al Capone before the diplomats. Also culture, that's pop.

(48:56):
It's a mob culture, yes, and I think that we
don't get Let's be very clear, is Jim Jones' real
name not even Jim Jones? And he got Dominican, he
got it from a gangster or like, I'm not denying that.

Speaker 2 (49:18):
I'm not denying that, King, I'm just saying, yeah, we
got to white, we got to white impact as far
as like, okay, once I take this and make it mine,
I got not just through the streets, but just like
beefing in the streets and also beefing on wax, which
hip hop spreads more so gives more impact. I think
fifty because fifty was one of the few niggas actually
doing it, getting busy and wrapping it. And I think

(49:41):
that winter was come on like a moment. Nobody wanted
to dress like al Capone. Even to this day, nobody,
nobody was holding it first.

Speaker 3 (49:53):
Ship with the vest and all that.

Speaker 1 (49:54):
I mean, his nickname was Scarface. We have we have
a rapper named off of that. We had whole film named,
like what his impact was and when we look at
Scarface as a whole, how that impacted Literally it's every
rapper's favorite movie.

Speaker 6 (50:10):
You feel me.

Speaker 1 (50:11):
So I'm going to keep Alcopone in there. We're gonna
keep Diddy, We're gonna keep jay Z, We're going to
add Juliani and I would be fine with adding fifty cent.
So the top five most influential people to impact the culture.
That is the list of people from New.

Speaker 5 (50:28):
York Giuliani, alcopoone.

Speaker 2 (50:31):
Yes, how do we not throwing a young nigga? I
don't like doing that one.

Speaker 1 (50:36):
I don't think what you do.

Speaker 4 (50:38):
I do want to add to the pop smoke argument,
though pop Smoke was here for six months. I'm sorry,
Like his music was great and he would have been great.

Speaker 1 (50:50):
We can't add pop smoke to having an impact on
anything of the.

Speaker 4 (50:54):
Call children as as somebody I got I got a
bit of here in my head, right, so I gave
my hand braided.

Speaker 6 (51:02):
I kid you not.

Speaker 4 (51:04):
That that that style of braid that he has talking
New York, Atlanta, l A. They identify that particular hair stuff.
You want to pop smoke braid. That's huge. The kids
asks for that. The kids now, is it global? No,
he didn't make it. Your face is crazy.

Speaker 2 (51:22):
I just don't like I don't like being so old.

Speaker 4 (51:25):
Let let's keep it a buck to the young niggas,
is bow wow impactful from Columbus?

Speaker 1 (51:31):
We are not going there. We are only talking New
York and Atlanta today. I mean that nigga is from Columbus, Ohio.
But when the Atlanta ship he is from Columbus, Ohio
and he says it, I used to bow wow wow,
yep yo, yep yea that nigga shouted out, motherfucking Columbus. Okay,
So can we get there? By the way, I wonder

(51:57):
if people are yelling at their phones like.

Speaker 7 (52:01):
New York New York side, I'm gonna give you a
chance to add pop if you replaced one, make your argument,
and then Mandy will agree or not, and then that'll
be your five.

Speaker 5 (52:11):
Jay Z, Diddy, Giuliani fifty.

Speaker 2 (52:14):
Who do you remove to take putting pop smoke because
we already got a gangst on there. I don't I'm
not gonna put Nas and Jay. I'm not doing that.
It's Jay and I'm not gonna I'm not gonna put
two gangsters. I don't need two gangs on there. Maybe
Alcopone influenced fifty cent, which you probably did. I think
fifty cent took it. What do you say you minute
a hot line on minute the hot song fifty minute

(52:34):
of the hot song.

Speaker 1 (52:35):
So you're taking off alcopone to put pop Smoke?

Speaker 2 (52:37):
Why?

Speaker 1 (52:37):
Because the niggas get their braids done like him.

Speaker 2 (52:39):
I mean he went to get his fucking hair that.
I'm ballheaded. I got a ball ahead, you know what
I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (52:45):
Okay, so how did pop Smoke? Why would you put
pop Smoke is one of the top five most influential
people that impacted our culture.

Speaker 2 (52:54):
I don't like being that old to where I do
a list that doesn't involve something about the young, the
next generation.

Speaker 3 (53:02):
I hate, I hate.

Speaker 2 (53:02):
I don't want to be that person. I don't want
to be the person that never mentions what's going on now.
I don't want to be that old Okay, y'all, y'all
just pulled that, by the way, But whatever.

Speaker 3 (53:11):
I think.

Speaker 2 (53:11):
I think we all got to get into the habit
of seeing what's next. We got four fucking people. Can't
give him one hold on?

Speaker 1 (53:17):
You want to you want to put someone young on there?
I got you.

Speaker 5 (53:20):
Here we go.

Speaker 1 (53:22):
I will remove your pop smoke, okay, and place fucking Tupac.
He died at twenty four, Get the fuck out of here.
If you want a young nigga, serious, right now, he's
a young nigga. He died young.

Speaker 6 (53:37):
She didn't shake the table over.

Speaker 1 (53:41):
If you want a represents culture, they both died young,
like forty something. Right now, it doesn't matter. Pop died
at an age that was he was a y n
when he passed.

Speaker 4 (53:59):
We have.

Speaker 2 (54:01):
Let's get side.

Speaker 5 (54:04):
You get the final call.

Speaker 1 (54:05):
No, you don't get the final You're gonna be a
young Pa or young PO.

Speaker 3 (54:13):
I don't like the comparison.

Speaker 6 (54:14):
No, I don't.

Speaker 2 (54:15):
I don't like the comparison. Crazy, I don't like the comparison.
But I'm going sm We we can't leave out the
young generation.

Speaker 3 (54:24):
I agree.

Speaker 1 (54:25):
I think I think young generation.

Speaker 2 (54:29):
Why n I'm sorry, man, So what do we do?

Speaker 5 (54:35):
Are we doing pock? Are we doing pop?

Speaker 1 (54:36):
So we're gonna separate so when we posted, I'm keeping.
If we need to add someone young, I'm sorry. My
list is going to have Tupac on there, and he
can have pop smoke and we can have the audience
debate that Foklyn so so so.

Speaker 5 (54:53):
Then for our purposes we have J Diddy and then
a tie, but then.

Speaker 1 (54:59):
One has po popping pop pop popping pot.

Speaker 3 (55:02):
Get cooked on this?

Speaker 2 (55:03):
No the fuck up? Pocket?

Speaker 1 (55:05):
Wait?

Speaker 2 (55:06):
Wait? Wait wait? Can I can?

Speaker 1 (55:07):
I ask y'all, what is the age of a y n.

Speaker 8 (55:11):
Why?

Speaker 6 (55:11):
In his age and attitude and like that, it's era.

Speaker 2 (55:15):
I just asked you the other day on my podcast,
A real wild young street Nigga. I said, why are
you calling us? I said, what the fuck is old?
He said, anybody over thirty? It is an old nigga?

Speaker 1 (55:26):
Get the fun out of here.

Speaker 2 (55:27):
God. That's why three young young street niggas literally telling
me to my face on camera that a that an
old nigga is anybody over thirty.

Speaker 3 (55:35):
We don't want to hear what you're talking about.

Speaker 1 (55:37):
To God, Okay, and that's why. Then all right, let's
get to look if you sounded.

Speaker 4 (55:42):
Like an old Wait, is there any sports figure that
we could put as an asteris?

Speaker 1 (55:46):
Because apparently I looked up. I think Kareem is from
New York Sam.

Speaker 3 (55:53):
The answer is no, But I don't know Anthony Nigga.

Speaker 6 (55:56):
He's from Baltimore, He's from Brooklyn, from Baltimore.

Speaker 2 (55:59):
Only a few nigga influenced, you know the coach like
that's like Allen Iverson. He's not from he's not New York.

Speaker 1 (56:03):
Yeah, we're talking only New York.

Speaker 2 (56:05):
In Atlanta gotta have real impact. Was Ai Steph like
from that?

Speaker 1 (56:09):
All right, so let's get to our top five list
most influential people from Atlanta who have made an impact.

Speaker 2 (56:18):
Now, if I cooked you in New York, you're about
to give you not first off, you ain't cooked shit.

Speaker 1 (56:21):
We removed. We removed most of your lists. So side
give me your Atlantic list.

Speaker 3 (56:31):
No, you go first on this one.

Speaker 2 (56:32):
You want me to go first on?

Speaker 1 (56:35):
All right? All right, here we go, Here we go.

Speaker 6 (56:38):
Number one.

Speaker 1 (56:40):
This person is not a debate. I got Martin Luther
King period. That nigga got streets in every hood, Martin
Luther King from Atlanta. I don't have to go deep
into that kind of like the Diddy of New York,
and I think they were against each other and versus

(57:00):
as well. I'm gonna go with Jermaine Duprie because he
is us sure, he is uh, he's everybody absolute social death.
That's bow wow kind of since you wanted to include
that niggas so bad as jagging it. So he's hip hop,
He's R and B everything. He he created Atlanta sound.
Some of y'all gonna get me for this, but he

(57:20):
is him. Now let me make sure he's from here
as well. But this one, if you allow on me
aout to one oh yea, I'm about to stary you
just a little bit. Let me make sure he's oh ship,
I gotta remove this nigga because he was actually born
But hold on, I'm gonna skip him and come back.

(57:42):
Y'all are probably not aware, but I'm gonna go with
Kanye West.

Speaker 6 (57:48):
He is he was born in atlantas ago.

Speaker 1 (57:52):
He was born in Atlanta. Does identify as I don't
give a fuck identification. You were born in Atlanta, Kanye West,
and he is absolutely influential in the impact of our.

Speaker 7 (58:02):
Culture, even though he has a line that says, I'm
so shy, I thought I was fast.

Speaker 1 (58:06):
No, no, no, he was born in Atlanta. He was
born in atlasta. He was born in Atlanta because Yo chill,
it was his cousin. We are not Actually that's very southern,
very what that is southern of him? That ain't Midwest

(58:28):
of him. Sucking your cousin, Dick. That's definitely crazy, given Atlanta,
given Atlanta.

Speaker 6 (58:36):
He didn't do that.

Speaker 1 (58:37):
He did, Okay, Number four I have geez mm hmm.
I think in terms of introducing trap sounds. He is
also the only rapper in my lifetime that influenced. Actually
him and Kim influenced what we couldn't wear in middle school, niggas.

(58:59):
We could not wear snowman T shirts. It was gang affiliated.
He made me want to sell at a very young age.
He was influential to sell anything. I was gonna be
a dope boy. Dope was dope crazy. And I will
say the person that I had on here who was
actually born in New Orleans was Tyler Perry. So right now,

(59:21):
my fifth, my fifth spot for most influential from Atlanta is,
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (59:27):
Your list got worse and worse.

Speaker 2 (59:29):
Don't do that.

Speaker 1 (59:29):
Don't do that now. So I'm gonna lean in heavily
to Martin, Luther, King, Jermaine Dupri, Kanye West, and Jez.
Who is your list? Because let's see, if I agreed
to add anyone to my most influential people to impact
the culture from Atlanta.

Speaker 3 (59:44):
I don't got them first.

Speaker 2 (59:45):
Too, But I'm very proud of you, by the way,
and Jamaine and Prediction show your age a little bit.

Speaker 3 (59:49):
But whatever, Okay, I'm going this is no order by
the way, Yeah, mine.

Speaker 1 (59:55):
Is it no order either. I put Gesz over Gucci,
but okay.

Speaker 2 (01:00:01):
I can't. But that's because you're not outside and you
just going through mainstream. But if you was anywhere outside
in Atlanta.

Speaker 9 (01:00:12):
I was.

Speaker 3 (01:00:13):
I was here in two thousand and Sixcci, I was.

Speaker 2 (01:00:16):
I got g on my ship too. Correction on introduced Trap. No,
he didn't, but one of the peaks up Trap, Yes,
so we'll give him that.

Speaker 6 (01:00:25):
Who else.

Speaker 2 (01:00:27):
I got t I.

Speaker 1 (01:00:28):
I'm not gonna lie, I'll add Ti.

Speaker 2 (01:00:31):
Yeah, I'm gonna go Tia just because he is to
me like ours. Not gonna compare him to jay Z,
but just the I would say the closest.

Speaker 1 (01:00:39):
No, I need you to say that, uh t I
is Atlanta's jay Z to me.

Speaker 2 (01:00:44):
Yeah, A lot of people, okay, because we wouldn't say
Andrew three thousand because he doesn't have enough body of work,
didn't collab enough. Okay, So I'm gonna go to y'a.

Speaker 1 (01:00:53):
I also think that while we respect outcasts, they didn't
get the global recognition or respect as a t I
I think did T I did the crossover though into pop,
and we know Andre three thousand did, especially with the
Love Below, but which.

Speaker 2 (01:01:08):
No one never ever try to make another Glove Below
like another kid was trying to do something similar to
that at a heavy rate of numbers Gotz and and
I'm not I don't like leaving the niggas who influenced
the young niggas. Young Thug has the most influence of
all the young niggas ever, and I'm gonna say that

(01:01:29):
over future and I got Future to future sound wise,
Thug street wise as far as the youth.

Speaker 1 (01:01:36):
Okay, so let's we know Future is getting removed from
Martin Luther King. Let's okay, so let's let's create. Yeah,
we keeping Martin Luther King on there, and we're keeping
Jermain Dupree And I think you would agree those two. Yeah,
those those are the locks. And we both had GZ
on our list. So those three the most influential people

(01:01:58):
who impacted the culture, Martin Luther King, Jermaine Duprie Gez.
And now we we lean into spots. We have two
spots that we need to lock in Kanye West. I'm sorry,
as someone who's born here, Kanye West has a bigger
impact than everyone on your list musically, sonically, culturally, fashion wise,

(01:02:21):
he does.

Speaker 3 (01:02:23):
He's never gonna be No One from Atlanta's claiming Kanye West.

Speaker 1 (01:02:27):
So you can't do no one is claiming Kanye West period. Like,
let's be very clear. We want to give him to
the white that Nigga is walking around with a swastika chain.
We don't want him as a Black community.

Speaker 2 (01:02:39):
But in terms of impact, we Cannotiucci is born in Alabama.

Speaker 1 (01:02:47):
There we go dos Atlanta and from.

Speaker 3 (01:02:53):
Columbus claims something counts as something.

Speaker 5 (01:02:55):
It doesn't identify counts as something. That's that's a good argument.

Speaker 2 (01:02:58):
What the are we doing?

Speaker 6 (01:02:59):
There's a are you serious about Atlanta?

Speaker 3 (01:03:02):
But you can't put Caye in there at all?

Speaker 1 (01:03:04):
Well, Well, because Gucci is actually born in Alabama, we're
gonna remove him and I'll let you keep Thug because
he actually has impacted a lot.

Speaker 2 (01:03:12):
I ain't putting no work there, not a Rica.

Speaker 5 (01:03:15):
So was that that was that eliminating Gucci?

Speaker 1 (01:03:18):
Tell yeah, we're eliminating Gucci and Kanye.

Speaker 5 (01:03:20):
Okay, that's a good that's a good trade.

Speaker 2 (01:03:23):
I don't like it. We'll go ahead.

Speaker 5 (01:03:24):
I don't like and then and and then side a
lot of young thugs, a lot.

Speaker 1 (01:03:29):
I'll include Thug. He's impacted a lot of families here.

Speaker 2 (01:03:31):
I'm sure if I were young, Yesug is in there.

Speaker 1 (01:03:39):
I love his music. I love Thug. Let's be very clear,
I love me something. He absolutely has impacted a lot
here in Atlanta for sure, and culturally. No, I'm not
gonna lie. I think his music is like I love Thug.
Let's be very clear. I'm biased. I was out here
saying free Thug and don't understand why people don't being

(01:03:59):
released because that nigga murdered people allegedly. Well no, he
was actually charged and serve time. So he killed somebody
for for thug. It was all alleged because that nigga
is a free man.

Speaker 7 (01:04:11):
So you know, there we go, do we put do
we say if we if we go on to claim, yeah,
claim it or a rerapid like saying Tyler Perry moved
to Atlanta when he was twenty one.

Speaker 1 (01:04:22):
No, that's way too.

Speaker 5 (01:04:23):
He got real estate.

Speaker 1 (01:04:23):
No, that's that's way too. That's way to employees. No,
we're not gonna do that. I removed Tyler Perry singing
born in New.

Speaker 5 (01:04:29):
Orleans, all right, So then we just got t I.
In future, it's only left over t I.

Speaker 1 (01:04:35):
I'm adding t I to the list, all right.

Speaker 5 (01:04:37):
So if that's the case, then it's g Z, M,
L K, j D, Young Thug and t I.

Speaker 1 (01:04:42):
Period five.

Speaker 3 (01:04:43):
I'll go to ya.

Speaker 1 (01:04:44):
Yep, that's the top five.

Speaker 3 (01:04:46):
She's gonna get cooked on that swopping Z for Gucci ship.

Speaker 2 (01:04:49):
I don't nobody in the South would say that, regard
as big as peak as GZ had. No anybody on
the South. You say, JZ Gucci, She's gonna get burnt. No,
I'm not.

Speaker 3 (01:05:00):
You ain't outside.

Speaker 1 (01:05:01):
I was absolutely outside. I was. And what's also unfortunate
is that the nigga spent a lot of time in jail,
so Jeszi was able to continue making music while Nigga
was locked up and Keisha was holding him down.

Speaker 3 (01:05:12):
I don't want to discredit Jesus.

Speaker 1 (01:05:13):
And now he's out of a clone like he's a
whole different nigga.

Speaker 6 (01:05:15):
Now, oh my god, what, I'm sorry.

Speaker 1 (01:05:18):
What impact have y'all seen niggas with with ice cream
cones on their face?

Speaker 2 (01:05:22):
No?

Speaker 4 (01:05:24):
What?

Speaker 1 (01:05:24):
Okay?

Speaker 5 (01:05:25):
All right?

Speaker 2 (01:05:26):
What y'all want to do.

Speaker 5 (01:05:27):
Y'all in New York Atlanta.

Speaker 1 (01:05:29):
At the end of the day, based on these two lists,
what city do we think has actually impacted and had
the biggest mark on our culture today? I got my answer,
and y'all gonna be surprised. I actually I think that
one person on the list supersedes everybody else. And so

(01:05:54):
I'm sorry, I gotta go to Atlanta because MLK is
why I'm here, Nigga, I'm biracial. I have to give
it to Martin Luther King and the impact he has
had on allowing me to be here. What show is
this crazy? Selectively?

Speaker 3 (01:06:12):
What are we doing?

Speaker 2 (01:06:13):
What the.

Speaker 3 (01:06:16):
Yo?

Speaker 2 (01:06:16):
Maybe don't be outside.

Speaker 1 (01:06:18):
She's not gonna do this.

Speaker 3 (01:06:19):
She's just happy to not be a slave?

Speaker 2 (01:06:21):
What are we doing? And credit? Hold on credit because
a lot of people don't know this though, Jason and King,
I don't know if y'all know this. Martin Luther King.
In the civil rights movement, the first peaceful protest was
in Atlanta, which is why so many blacks are here
and feel safe in Atlanta. A lot of people don't
know that, which is why Atlanta is so black that
that's what it was. I could come to Atlanta talk

(01:06:42):
my ship and not get shot and stabbed like somebody.

Speaker 3 (01:06:46):
But a little bit less. But I don't what the
fuck are we doing? MLK is the premises of her.

Speaker 2 (01:06:57):
She just want to be safe, like you can't let
a scare that don't want to carry a firearm in
the legal state. Say what's impacting the culture because most
of the culture is the streets.

Speaker 1 (01:07:07):
I don't like that. I think that that is a
terrible view and much Actually, wait, I also think that
that is I also think that that is a problematic
view on black people. To sit here and say majority
of the culture is streets.

Speaker 2 (01:07:21):
It is I don't like that.

Speaker 6 (01:07:23):
Well it hip hop started from the streets.

Speaker 3 (01:07:25):
You don't get.

Speaker 1 (01:07:25):
You don't get not that.

Speaker 2 (01:07:27):
She don't get to not like something that created the
umbrella of confidence and safety that she sits under.

Speaker 3 (01:07:33):
You don't get to do that. You don't get you
don't get it.

Speaker 2 (01:07:36):
You don't know.

Speaker 6 (01:07:36):
I don't like this part of it.

Speaker 2 (01:07:37):
Well, that part of it is why you love it.

Speaker 1 (01:07:39):
But that's not that is not representative of all black.

Speaker 2 (01:07:43):
Majority because on Earth gonna say you could throw a
rocket my head while I'm outside and get away with it. Now, nigga,
we're gonna fuck you up like nobody wants to. No
one wants to replicate it.

Speaker 1 (01:07:55):
And this is why I don't think everyone should have guns,
because where is the self control?

Speaker 3 (01:07:59):
You hit me with a rock about.

Speaker 1 (01:08:02):
Rock and a gun are not the same thing. So
pick up that rock and throw it back.

Speaker 2 (01:08:06):
So, now, if MLK is her biggest influence when she
go outside and somebody slap you.

Speaker 1 (01:08:12):
First off, let's talk about the difference between MLK and
Malcolm ex if we want to go there. One was
pro violence, the other was pro people.

Speaker 4 (01:08:19):
So but Malcolm, Malcolm Martin did kind of understood Malcolm's
point of view later before before his demise Okay, you
gotta go, and Malcolm wasn't Malcolm wasn't trying to be
a criminal either. He was just saying, hey, we had
the right to defend ourselves.

Speaker 1 (01:08:36):
Okay, So let me ask y'all then, based on the list,
because let's let's bring it full circle. Let's end the
episode off strong, what city do you think had the
greater impact to the culture, the North as in New
York City or the South in Atlanta.

Speaker 6 (01:08:57):
That's easy, it's easy, Go ahead, New York, Okay, New York.

Speaker 2 (01:09:02):
I know, Jason, not like Atlanta.

Speaker 5 (01:09:05):
That's Atlanta. List is good though, that's a good.

Speaker 2 (01:09:08):
Thank you, thank you because of my adjustment. Right, you're
just got the young dude.

Speaker 5 (01:09:13):
I got the young dude.

Speaker 1 (01:09:14):
Oh thug of the MLK.

Speaker 5 (01:09:16):
That's a range.

Speaker 1 (01:09:17):
Once again, the idolization of criminals in our.

Speaker 3 (01:09:20):
Community made us criminals, by the way, But we don't
got to get that.

Speaker 2 (01:09:24):
We don't have to get that date made.

Speaker 6 (01:09:26):
Are you into politics?

Speaker 1 (01:09:28):
No one politician all day?

Speaker 3 (01:09:31):
I mean, I just have no influence.

Speaker 1 (01:09:35):
I would love for more of us to get into
position happening. It is happening. That's why we have an
Eric Adams. That's why we have someone running like a
Stacey Abrams. We have we have Jasmine Uh yeah. Like
there's a lot of black people gaining positions in all.

Speaker 2 (01:09:50):
Five boroughs right now. No nigga won't be like Eric.
Unfortunately they should, but they don't.

Speaker 6 (01:09:56):
What the fuck are we doing all he did?

Speaker 1 (01:10:00):
I don't get what he had getting a proclamations at that.
We're gonna end this episode. We are not talking about
getting of proclamation all right? All right side, Where can
people listen to your thoughts and opinions and hot takes.

Speaker 2 (01:10:18):
You don't like none of my takes, but whatever, I
hate them all. My instagram is uh sorry to kid
s y A R I D A K I D.
My podcast is the Sorry not Sorry Show. Sorry tune
in you know what I'm saying. I got many on
my ship too, so you know I'm on near cooking
her on that too.

Speaker 1 (01:10:32):
But whatever, And y'all, we're gonna end here with a
question because unfortunately I am still undecided in terms of
my views on the North and South and their impact. However,
I would love to know do you think that the
South is more influential or is the New York more
influential in the culture? And you know what to minimize it,

(01:10:55):
Let's do out of the past two decades, because clearly
we had slavery down here, so the South is definitely
more influential and what's happening, what's taking place historically, But
please share your thoughts on is the South more influential
or is New York more influential? And I know I
said the South. We're gonna lean into Atlanta on that.

(01:11:15):
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