Ep. 20 | Purple Party: Can You Be a Pro-Black Republican? - Selective Ignorance with Mandii B

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hey, guys, welcome to another episode of Selective Ignorance. However,

(00:03):
before we get to this week's episode, I want to
remind you guys to purchase my book No Holds Barred,
a dual manifesto of sexual exploration and power. So feel
free to go to your local bookstores preferably queer owned,
black owned, or woman owned, to support them, but also
just click the button on Amazon, Barnes and Nobles, or

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wherever you read your books.

Speaker 2 (00:25):
Again.

Speaker 1 (00:26):
That is No Holds Barred, a dual manifesto of sexual
exploration and power, written by yours truly and my co
host of the Decisions Decisions podcasts, Weezy. Make sure y'all
get that. Now, let's get to this week's episode. This
is Mandy be Welcome to Selective Ignorance, a production of
The Black Effect Podcast Network and Iart Radio. Okay, y'all,
let's go there. So lately, I've been peeping the shift.

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The conversation's happening in the barbershops, bunch tables, group chats,
even on the timeline. More and more black men and
women too are starting to lean to the right, not back,
flirting with Republican talking points, citing entrepreneurship, masculinity, lower taxes,
family values. And I'm like, wait, when did we forget

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who these policies actually serve? Because I got to ask,
can you really be pro black or pro woman and
still align yourself with a party at its core is
pushing legislation that strips us of our autonomy? Like these
are the same folks trying to control our bodies, ban books,
rewrite history, and erase queer identity. So what's the trade

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off a better business tax bracket? And I'm speaking for
myself here too, I've had to check my spirit. Y'all
know the nickname is Mandy DeSantis over here, But because
some of the people that I love and care about,
they lean right. And I've had to ask, how do
I stay in community with people who would vote technically
my rights away or even speak the language to the

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masses as a queer woman, as a woman who's pro choice,
as someone who believes in justice that doesn't come with
a price tag? Like where do we draw the line
between freedom of thought and harm? We say we want
the unity of the black community, But what happens when
your idea of liberation looks like aligning with a system
designed to suppress mind. Now, don't get it twisted, this

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saying a Democrat fan club meeting. I promise. I know
both parties got blood on their hands, but one party
is out here actively rolling back our protections and some
of y'all are just clapping because gases two dollars and
eighty nine cents. So let's sit in this discomfort for
a little bit. Is it actually harmful when black folks
and women vocalize their alliance with the right. Are they

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normalizing a system that doesn't see us fully? Or are
they just simply expressing the same freedom of choice that
we all claim to fight for, Because that's the tension.
On one hand, this is America. You're free to think
how you want, vote how you want, live how you want.
But freedom of choice doesn't mean freedom from concentqu it

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doesn't mean you get to support systems that hurt the
most vulnerable among us and still get to see at
every table like nothing happened. So today I'm not here
to tell you how to vote. I'm here to ask
what do your politics say about who you're willing to
sacrifice for your comfort? Can you really call yourself pro
black while co signing policies that make our lives harder,

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and are we as a community doing more harm than
good by pretending that the differences of opinion quote unquote
don't cause people their rights, their health care, and their lives.
We are getting into it. It's gonna get spicy because
I'm joined by two people that I really love, that
I respect, and that I value them enough to try

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to understand them. I know I'm hiccupping here because I'm
just like, I love y'all so much that I don't
understand how y'all's brains work, and so over here on
selective ignorance. I'm really pleased to introduce my guests, but
before we get there, I'm also joined by my super producers.
We got Jason and a King, So I guess, b

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what are y'all the What's the people with the black
and white with the stripes that call the words babe me?
So we have them as referees today. But also to
keep the conversation going again, y'all have made the joke.
And before we introduce the guess to Jason and King,

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why is the joke that my nickname is Mandy Desantus.
I know that, like I have some kind of conservative
views sometimes.

Speaker 3 (04:35):
But you, yeah.

Speaker 4 (04:37):
I see.

Speaker 5 (04:37):
I think when we first started this podcast, I don't know,
you were just breathing different, like we call Mandy Taylor Greens.

Speaker 2 (04:50):
That Lord was showing.

Speaker 1 (04:52):
That's crazy, and y'all, I'm sitting next to my good friend.
Y'all may have heard her on another episode. Carlo wilmeris
who is the host of the So What Now podcast
and also deforced behind the idea to launch productions company
That Helps that Helps to launch podcasts. They have launched

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over nine hundred podcasts with over sixty million listeners. And
she's here to get on my nerves. I know now, y'all,
she is coming.

Speaker 3 (05:21):
You would be so boring about me.

Speaker 1 (05:23):
She is coming here with thoughts and views from Florida
and to my love. I'm by the cultural disruptor himself,
Ray Daniels music executive responsible for some of the industry's
biggest chart topping hits for artists such as Beyonce, Sierra,
and Usher, along with signing an Elie Choppa to Warner

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and lately he's become a media star as a podcast
host of The Gods Show and Radar Report, Which is
crazy because I have been on there and I'm missing
the game show one. What's the game show one?

Speaker 6 (05:58):
That's debatable, that's debatable to you said it off fastly,
hold you hold on.

Speaker 4 (06:04):
That was a moment. Listen.

Speaker 1 (06:07):
Well, I've talked about it a little bit on Patreon.
You don't even know how much I love and respect
this man. He brought me onto his podcast that pretty
much Welcome to Georgia. It welcomed me to Georgia where
I was threatened. My life was threatened because of my tics.

Speaker 3 (06:21):
That's the one, Jesus.

Speaker 6 (06:23):
But I'm gonna say this, Mandy is a that's my
that's my nigga because in the middle of the drama,
like she knew, I'm like, I got you just she
was like, Ray, I'm like because I'm like, she wasn't wrong,
but I wasn't right. Some men, No, you weren't even wrong.
I'm being honest with you.

Speaker 4 (06:42):
You you one up to him. Yeah, he said something happened.

Speaker 6 (06:47):
Yeah it was I don't remember exactly, but it was
something like he was basically disrespecting Well, it.

Speaker 1 (06:52):
Was the conversation actually that we're gonna have here. It
was Kamala, right, and it was about Kamala and Trump
during the election, and he put his money to his ear,
and the conversation really leaned towards he didn't want a
black woman in office because a woman cannot deal with that.

Speaker 4 (07:11):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (07:11):
Yeah, now he got a little one anyway, I kind
of you know, it's crazy. She said that that's where
based on based on everything he said, I questioned his sexuality.

Speaker 4 (07:24):
Boy, and that's when they hit the fan.

Speaker 1 (07:26):
I remember now, I remember, so look she went to
the dick side. I went to the sexuality. Either way,
it questioned his masculinity and ideas of women, because.

Speaker 3 (07:33):
That's when you say something ignorant, you just it was something.

Speaker 6 (07:37):
But my thing is is that if I come to
the table with ignorance, I can't get mad if somebody
worn ups my ignorance. And that's why I was on
her side in it, because I'm like, yo, he said,
she said.

Speaker 1 (07:46):
He said he he came to me and was like,
I brought up something about books or something like that,
and he was like, ain't you a whole? Like don't
you have a pod? Like horrible decisions? Like bitch, no
one wants to listen to you. Essentially, so because I
got thrown the whole, the whole persona they can't speak
to think it was ugly, so which is why Ray
was like, that's your friend.

Speaker 4 (08:05):
Well yeah, I'm cool with him.

Speaker 6 (08:06):
Like one thing, one thing you know about me is
I don't switch the street.

Speaker 4 (08:09):
But I don't switch.

Speaker 6 (08:10):
But the reality is is that you can be my friend.
But I will still tell you, bro, you was wrong.
And Mandy did what she's supposed to do to defend
herself and he didn't like it because it was in
front of cameras. So then it was like, you know,
but she came.

Speaker 1 (08:23):
Out it was I was really passive aggressive, but boy
didn't work that time.

Speaker 6 (08:28):
I don't understand how people are so triggered by what
someone says, Like it's so it's weird to me, Like
you can say anything you want about me and it
doesn't bother me because I know who I am.

Speaker 3 (08:39):
If it doesn't if it's not truth.

Speaker 6 (08:43):
So you can tell me something about me that's true
and it might be bad.

Speaker 7 (08:46):
You have to have an insecurity about it, right, So
the truth thesecure.

Speaker 3 (08:49):
So if you tell me and you're looking, oh, oh
your brown skin, I'm gonna be like, oh my god,
no I'm not. No I am.

Speaker 7 (08:54):
If you're telling me you're a mom. It's something that
truth that I know about me, or even like I
don't know you talk so fast, or you might have
an accent, or for being Republican, and I know those
things are true, but I accept them.

Speaker 3 (09:06):
I'm not insecure.

Speaker 6 (09:07):
But I mean, everybody has to be something that's probably weird.
That's weird to me, Like you don't want.

Speaker 4 (09:14):
To be something.

Speaker 6 (09:15):
It's like everybody has to be something. Somebody has to
be Toss might be fast, somebody has to be mediocre, y'all.

Speaker 1 (09:20):
I hate that mediocre word. You're mediocre, You're mediocre. But
I think that that's what Carl was saying, Like someone
can tell you something that's not unless you might have
an insecurity and feeling that way or or feeling of
some level of inferiority where it actually does hurt you, right,
Because like I read comments all the time, and for me,
it's not until like people start bringing up my mama

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or questioning my upbringing where I'll be.

Speaker 6 (09:43):
Like, I understand that because you can't control that. It's
like that's oh, but this is what I'm telling you
is my response would be very simple. I got more
money than you though, Okay, no.

Speaker 4 (09:53):
No, no no no no no no no no no no.
Let me tell you why.

Speaker 6 (09:56):
No, let me tell you why. Let me tell you why. See,
you got to understand something. I am a former hater.

Speaker 1 (10:04):
Oh.

Speaker 6 (10:05):
When I was a kid, nobody believed in me. I
didn't like nobody. I hated everybody that was winning. So
I can relate. That's why I can understand the emotion
because I beat mine. So it's not like I'm like,
that's why it's hard to offend me because I already
had to face my demons.

Speaker 3 (10:17):
But why do you have to? Why is that your combat?

Speaker 8 (10:20):
Ve?

Speaker 2 (10:21):
Okay, so let me tell you why.

Speaker 6 (10:22):
Because as adults like when okay, so when your kids,
your job is to go to school, that's your business. Right.
As adults, our business is taking care of ourselves and
our families.

Speaker 4 (10:33):
Right. Okay?

Speaker 6 (10:34):
How the fuck are you out here hustling for your feeling?
But your comment and negative shit about someone you don't know?
You can't have money. I know you don't have money.
Listen to ship you say, though the ship you say,
it's like you're.

Speaker 3 (10:47):
Saying, but a Trump he got plenty of money.

Speaker 6 (10:50):
But guess what, he probably an't got as much money
as the place you think he's supposed to be.

Speaker 9 (10:54):
He's got a lot more money than I know for
a fact that if I put my bank account next
to Donald Trump's, hits is much bigger.

Speaker 3 (11:05):
And I will tell you any day of the day
that I'm a better person, of course.

Speaker 6 (11:08):
But nobody, but nobody cares about nobody, nobody, but nobody
cares about.

Speaker 4 (11:14):
But here's the thing though. But here's the thing though.

Speaker 6 (11:15):
Yeah, if you got ten million dollars and you're around
a whole bunch of broke folks, you feel rich as fuck.
That if you got ten million dollars and you surrounded
bout billionaires, you might be a little frustrated that your
ten millionaires stretched to where they are. And from what
I've heard about Trump is that the that he's always
it was not heard. You can see he's always wanted
to be accepted as a celebrity.

Speaker 4 (11:34):
Yep.

Speaker 6 (11:35):
I don't think that he knew that the celebrity his
peers was going to turn on him like that, because
it's like he was a bad guy. He was a
if this, if being a celebrity was wrestling, Trump was
a heel.

Speaker 1 (11:46):
Oh yeah, that's why he was part Wayne and ship.

Speaker 6 (11:49):
That's my point. So I guess what he does. He's
a heel in wrestling, you know Norther, That is right,
So he's a heel. So he comes to the candidacy
as a heel. He's a bad guy, but you forgot
that people still like bad guys. And that's But to me,
it's like I think, I don't. I think Trump is performing.
I think he's performative. And so to me, with that
being said, I don't acknowledge nothing. So it's like, for example,

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I see Mandy say something crazy. I know Mandy, so
I'm gonna be like, even if she says something like say,
if you caught the little clip of her telling that
dude you a motherfucking bublah blah blah blah and you
saw that, you be like, she's a bitch. I'm like,
he says something first because I know the person, right,
So it's like.

Speaker 1 (12:24):
And you ain't get the whole picture. That's I think.

Speaker 7 (12:26):
But the reason why I got here I maybe and
this hasn't untail with this podcast, maybe you can answer
it later. It was why is the comeback? I got
more money versus just staying quiet.

Speaker 6 (12:33):
I told you no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
I get if I get one hundred comments, sixty of
them is negative or fifty. What I'm saying is that
that I'm saying, I'm saying, no, I'm not about fifty
depends on what I'm talking about. If I'm talking about it,
if I'm talking about I did a video about as
shanty and they edited it up and it looked like
I was hating on her. And I can understand why
people saw that based on what you saw, because you

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hear me saying a shanty's a fake out, and I'm like,
but I was saying, IRV, when you an an R,
you know how to yate fake outs, right, It's like,
I know you can't sing as good as like Okay,
so I get an example. No no, Not'm not saying you
sing you said in my career, in my thing like
footprint like this. Janet Jackson has never won on stage
and song a capella that is not her strong point,
not disrespect and by the way, Jennifer Hudson has never

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won on stage and did a one two step when
you're working, and so when people take it personal because
they're looking at it from a fan standpoint, I'm not
a fan. I build machines, so all I'm trying to
build things that work. So all I'm trying to show
you is what they did that worked. So even with
old Boy he got mad, I'm like, but it was explosive.

Speaker 4 (13:32):
It worked.

Speaker 6 (13:33):
It's like, I'm a producer. I'm like, I'm always entertaining.
I'm like, it works.

Speaker 4 (13:36):
As long as it worked, that's what matters.

Speaker 6 (13:38):
This is.

Speaker 1 (13:39):
So then I guess to lean into what this conversation
looks like. Knowing that you're a podcaster, and knowing even
how you edited up your conversation with TK for entertainment,
knowing that you sit on a mic and your mind
goes to entertainment. I want to talk about if there's
any harm then with leaning towards the right more than

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the left in terms of policy, in terms of all
the things. Now, I want to make it clear because
I asked both of them before we started this podcast.
While both of you both voted Democrat in the last.

Speaker 3 (14:11):
Election, Yeah, vote Democrats.

Speaker 1 (14:13):
He voted it in the last election. He did not
want He did not vote it with Biden, vote for Biden.
He didn't vote for Biden.

Speaker 4 (14:19):
I didn't want Biden.

Speaker 6 (14:20):
So we'll get it for Kamala, and I vote for Hillary.
The first time I ever voted Republican was against Biden
because I knew what was going to happen.

Speaker 4 (14:29):
Happen.

Speaker 3 (14:31):
I'm so confused.

Speaker 1 (14:32):
Yes, we're talking to Kamala. He voted for it, which
is which is Democrat? He however, voted for Trump over Biden.
Got it and his vote clearly counted, but not really
because Biden won. So so in this conversation, while you
both voted Democrat. In your personal life as well as

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sometimes your views on Mike's they have absolutely skewed too.
I think have people question which party they should align
with as a friend to both of y'all iv sideye
and sometimes on your actual views on certain policies in
ways in which could affect us as women or us
as a black community, and why the fuck you would

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lean somewhat towards a party or an infrastructure of democracy
that would have a negative impact or harm the community. Now,
Oh no, no, no, we're gonna get into I'm literally gonna
call both of y'all out on all of y'all shit,
and we gonna we're gonna dive into it.

Speaker 4 (15:32):
Oh yayyay, and.

Speaker 1 (15:35):
So before we started this podcast, me and Carla did
take a test to make sure I was on the
right page with where we align politically. My results were
that I'm a Democratic mainstay, older than other democratic oriented
groups I have. This is the highest share of black
non Hispanic adults of any political typology group, and as

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normally six and ten women. They generally here we Go,
favor policies that expand the social safety net and support
higher taxes on corporations. Mind you and I have money,
and I still you know, here we go. But they
have a moderate tilt on other issues, including immigration and crime,
which y'all have heard me share on this podcast. Now,
Carla's she is an ambivalent right. She uh. This is

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a political identity defined by nuance. They are conservatives who
don't fit neatly into traditional Republican boxes. They generally support
core conservative values like smaller federal governments, pro business policies,
and focus on personal responsibility, but they also hold more
moderate or even progressive views on key social issues. So

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what really sets the ambivalent right apart is their skepticism
toward Donald Trump. Okay, however, so me and Carlo we're
having a conversation and not to get you too ramped up.
We're starting with identity rights right now, because me and
Carla had the conversation and she was like, yeah, like LGBTQ,

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they could just live the life however they want to live.
They should be able to do whatever they want to do,
like they're people too. And immediately my question to her was, okay,
so what are your thoughts on trans bathroom rights and
us sharing bathrooms with them? And her response did you
come up with one yet? Because her response immediately was
I didn't even finish.

Speaker 3 (17:26):
She told me to shut up. She got it up.

Speaker 1 (17:27):
She said, well, well, and then.

Speaker 3 (17:30):
You cut me off.

Speaker 1 (17:31):
No, no, no, you First off, we waited for ten seconds.

Speaker 9 (17:33):
You didn't no, no, no, I don't save it, no,
I said, you cut me off at home, and you're like, wait,
save it to the MinC savor because.

Speaker 1 (17:39):
It took her about ten minutes and she was still thinking.

Speaker 3 (17:42):
I was thinking, and I wanted to explain.

Speaker 1 (17:44):
Myself, so explain the hesitance. Then in you leaning that
way because if we're talking policies here, that's what we've
seen heavily from the Republican Party is the attack on
trans rights essentially and people being upset that there's now
shared gender backrooms and things like that. So where do
you lean with the thoughts on children being able to

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identify as trans? The bathroom share, Oh yeah, we're going
with because that's where you have semi Republican stances on it.
So what are your views there that you stand on.

Speaker 3 (18:20):
Okay, let's start with the bathroom with the children.

Speaker 7 (18:25):
The bathrooms, I don't I want the bathrooms to stay
women in males right, A women's bathroom, a man's bathroom.

Speaker 3 (18:31):
I do believe that.

Speaker 7 (18:32):
A trans woman should go into a women's bathroom. I
do believe that a trans man should go into a
man's bathroom. Here's where the problem lies for me. I
do truly believe that in the media, what we're portraying
is these performative people claiming to be trans that are
doing it for attention that might not really understand what
it's like to be a trans I know trans people,
I have them in my life, and they're just regular folks,

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just like me and you. I have no problem being
around the ones with the pool have us in the
same bathroom, no problem. My problem is when I see
what the agenda of the media. Sometimes when it's regarding
trans people.

Speaker 9 (19:04):
Okay, it's like these performative wild ship that's just like,
oh my god, they're walking around looking like a three
hundred pound man and they just put a little bit
of makeup on.

Speaker 1 (19:13):
I think, I think.

Speaker 7 (19:14):
But that's what they're trying to make us thing that
has happened. They try to tell us that these trans
people are all pedophiles. You know how many men look
regular and our pedophiles, You know what I mean this.
I don't know if it's an agenda or it is
an agenda, don't if I don't think it.

Speaker 3 (19:28):
But at the end of the day, trans people, of
course you do.

Speaker 7 (19:32):
Mores trans people that are being shown to us on
television and on social media, that are trying to get
us outraged. It's not what are really people that are
really living out here, are true trans life that they feel.
Whether I agree with it, whether we're talking about the
Bible where I don't give a damn, it doesn't affect
me if you're truly living in your truth. Now that
people are like I'm trans baby and want to wear diapers,
or I'm a trans dog and I'm a transparent and

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you going down, we're being shown and that's what's outraging
us about these fucking bad bathrooms.

Speaker 3 (20:00):
Let the fucking bitch.

Speaker 7 (20:01):
That's a woman walking in there and she just wants
to peek, she just wants take a ship. We're not
doing anything more than that. It's like, if that's the case, yes,
but it's the extra Now there's some people taking advantage
of that in order to be like.

Speaker 3 (20:14):
Oh, we don't want calm down. They're not doing nothing.

Speaker 1 (20:16):
You're weird, They're not okay.

Speaker 6 (20:20):
I totally disagree with that last part. I can't wait
till the pot we could just start saying them niggas.

Speaker 1 (20:25):
Is crazy, which niggas is crazy.

Speaker 4 (20:26):
Whoever? Like my point, listen.

Speaker 6 (20:30):
Thought, here's my things on trans If you want to
be a trans anything, I'm fine with that. My problem
is when you make the world participate in your bullshit.

Speaker 4 (20:38):
That's your story.

Speaker 6 (20:39):
No, no, no, listen. I'm at a restaurant the other day.
I'm trying to get it's late, I finished working. I
just want to eat.

Speaker 4 (20:44):
Right.

Speaker 6 (20:44):
It's a guy, but you can obviously tell he's a guy.
But he because it's his chest is flat, his mind,
but he got girl hair, right.

Speaker 4 (20:50):
I don't know what's going on. I didn't have listen.

Speaker 3 (20:52):
My daddy paid for this listen.

Speaker 6 (20:53):
But my point is that I don't know where they are.
I'm just all I want to do is fucking eat bro.
It's eight o'clock at night. I got my femin I
want it.

Speaker 4 (21:00):
I say I have a table before it cool?

Speaker 6 (21:02):
He come back. Hey, I got a table for you,
r Q. Thank you, sir, sir, hey man, What the
nigga like is this? You're here to serve me right now,
my nigga. Now, I gotta be Now, I'm transphobic because
I'm calling you what I see you as. So my
thing is, my only problem is is if that if
that's your joke, if that's your identity, if that's what
you want to participate, my only issue is leave the

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motherfuckers that don't want to entertain it away from it.

Speaker 4 (21:27):
That's why I trans people.

Speaker 3 (21:28):
You are able to just say thank you.

Speaker 4 (21:30):
No I can.

Speaker 6 (21:31):
But my point is this, I saw a sir, so
I said thank you sir that.

Speaker 3 (21:35):
You also saw a wig.

Speaker 6 (21:37):
And but that doesn't mean he's identifying as a woman.
That just I've seen plenty.

Speaker 4 (21:42):
Of games, don't.

Speaker 6 (21:44):
I don't give a fuck about him. I'm in fucking
what's the restaurant I'm in fucking stay cover.

Speaker 4 (21:50):
I don't care.

Speaker 2 (21:51):
I don't care.

Speaker 4 (21:52):
I just want to eat, my nigga, Can you give
me to a table?

Speaker 6 (21:55):
Not? I don't want to identify you as what you like.
I don't want to.

Speaker 4 (21:58):
Participate in that.

Speaker 6 (21:59):
And I think that that's why a lot of men
have ran from the Democratic Party. To me, I've been
saying this in my household for the last three years.
I said, I promise you them's are gonna lose because
as a man who's always go to Democrat, when you
make me give them their rights, I'm not. But when
I have to participate in the show, that's when I

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draw the line.

Speaker 4 (22:23):
I'm not with that.

Speaker 6 (22:24):
And that's kind of what made me go Honestly, that's
what made me go independent, because I'm like, we're going
to because it's like too much inclusion can start excluding
other people.

Speaker 4 (22:32):
And that is a fact.

Speaker 6 (22:33):
And men, black men, especially men have not become a
part of the democrats journey, their agenda or whatever.

Speaker 4 (22:40):
They don't care. It's like men don't matter.

Speaker 6 (22:42):
And I do believe that the Republican Party is a
party of men because because it has masculinity, thought masculine thoughts.

Speaker 1 (22:47):
So I want to challenge you here.

Speaker 4 (22:49):
Let's go I love being child.

Speaker 1 (22:50):
I want to challenge you here on what you just
said in terms of we don't have to bring them
in and we don't have to resistipate. Cool. So, as
a black man in the music industry in a corporate
setting who goes into rooms with white men, who believes
he deserves a seat at the table, what if you

(23:13):
what if white men said the same thing that you're
saying now. But we're and we're trying to get past that, right,
which essentially is what trans people are attempting to do
right now, which is why there is an attack on
their lives and policies and laws to make them a
part of society. Right. And so I'm saying that to say,

(23:36):
what if your mindset was into all of those white
men that didn't believe that they had to assimilate to
bring you into society the way that it is because
you are a black man and they believe. I ain't
got to change how my thoughts and my views on
a black man having a seat at the table.

Speaker 6 (23:53):
Here's what I want to say as a black man
when I walk in the room, I can't hide my
skin color. Like you know, I'm black, right, So it's
not like I'm like Puerto Rican, who can you can
cut your hair somewhere? They could thank you, right, I
walk in them as black, So I already have to
get over that. Okay, that already walks.

Speaker 4 (24:10):
In the room with me.

Speaker 6 (24:11):
That's been my life story. I had to show you
that I'm not like them. For you to even let
me into anything, I wouldn't listen. I wouldn't have got
I've been in the music.

Speaker 4 (24:18):
Business twenty years.

Speaker 6 (24:19):
You know why I'm not right now because I quit
because they got mad at me for speaking up. So
I'm always for speaking up. I'll speak up, but I
had to deal with the consequences. Consequences. We don't want
nobody speaking up in here. You know what that shit
hurt me, Mandy. I cried every day for a mom Damn.

Speaker 4 (24:32):
I was great.

Speaker 6 (24:33):
I'm the best person up here. I do the job
the best. Why don't they want me? And then I
hired as executive coach And what they helped me see
was that our values didn't align. So my thing is
that once you know your values aligned, you have to
let go the values don't align and I think the
problem with this world is that we're always trying to
get mad when people don't think like us.

Speaker 4 (24:51):
I don't listen.

Speaker 6 (24:52):
I don't care if those white men don't believe in me.
I believe in me, and my job is to believe
in me and go for mine.

Speaker 4 (24:56):
That's all.

Speaker 6 (24:57):
So we all deal with it. But I don't want
to get on the race.

Speaker 1 (25:01):
I guess I guess my frustration in what you said,
and then we'll go into the children. That's fine, I
want to say. What I also pick up from this though,
is you saw a man. Now. The surgeries and things
that trends people have to do to switch their genders
to come across as passing for the gender that they

(25:23):
want to exist as is very expensive. So what I
also hear from you is because I can show you
some right now, some badass bitches, and you wouldn't have
called them sir because they're passing. And so I think,
unfortunately we have to we also have to under the
veil a of the socioeconomic state of especially our own people,

(25:43):
specifically I would say black trans people, because of where
we've been put from a socioeconomic disadvantage. The cost to
actually transition is so much that unfortunately, and this is
why so many of them are being killed at the
hands because of homophobia and masculinity in our community. But
as long as is their passing, then it becomes kind
of okay in accepting them as MAM's missus, of course.

(26:07):
But that's I think that's my problem with the ignorance.
And what you said is if that waiter did not
present as a sir, you wouldn't have had the aggression
to feeling like, I don't have aggression. Well, no, what
I'm saying is in the response, you know.

Speaker 8 (26:22):
Or right, Let me ask you something to if if
if this if the waiter who is a trans woman,
if you said sir, and if they were like, if
their response was actually I'm not a sir and it
was more muted in the response, do you think your
response would.

Speaker 4 (26:35):
Have been would have been perfect?

Speaker 2 (26:36):
Or do you feel do you feel like you were
it wasn't.

Speaker 4 (26:39):
I was challenged.

Speaker 6 (26:42):
To say to you when you said, simple, this is
like nine o'clock at night. Their frisk goes up by
perimendal mall, I'm trying to eat, I walk in the restaurant.

Speaker 4 (26:51):
Excuse me, cap of the table.

Speaker 3 (26:52):
For four what he said to you when you said
thank you, sir.

Speaker 6 (26:56):
Sir, I'm like, nigga, how the fuck, I'm no, Like
that's what. By the way, I didn't react. I get
he was the aggressive one, sir, on my bad brother.

Speaker 3 (27:05):
Like it's it's like, it's like, bro, you know this
you and I would say, I go.

Speaker 2 (27:11):
Back with that too. It's a new thing for a
lot of that's my point.

Speaker 4 (27:14):
It's a new thing. And my thing is and my
thinking and my thing.

Speaker 6 (27:17):
Is that because it's new, listen, because it's new. Allow
this is new. As a man, this is new, and
I just hate how as soon as I'm like, think
about daddy in the house, think about daddy's role in life.

Speaker 4 (27:31):
Daddy is always there to protect. Daddy is always there.

Speaker 6 (27:33):
To say, hold on, we don't I don't know if
I trust them yet. That's what Well, that's not not
your dad, man. But here's what I'm saying. But that
is a father's role. A father's role is to protect
and provide.

Speaker 3 (27:43):
But here's what I have.

Speaker 7 (27:44):
I know, and I know that you understand that he said, sir,
and that you're tired with your family is like all
of that, but also as adults, we have to have
a responsibility on how we react to certain people.

Speaker 3 (27:54):
So if someone would have told.

Speaker 4 (27:55):
Me his reaction of my reaction, we talking about.

Speaker 3 (27:57):
It's about yours, because I don't how did you react
to the sir?

Speaker 4 (28:03):
It was? It was not. I was like, my, my bad,
I just want to eat.

Speaker 2 (28:06):
Okay, I'm so's.

Speaker 7 (28:08):
Like you're sharing his hindsight guys, And yes, I agree
with that. There are so many times we pull out
to people and I'm like, I don't I might not
see that at first, My bad. Maybe you're a guy
that was growing long hair, which is very possible. I
don't know, but if I misgendered you, most of the
time I just tried to not give a gender. I
tried to say miss or mister or anything like that

(28:29):
because I may not agree full.

Speaker 3 (28:31):
I wouldn't even say agree. I don't know.

Speaker 1 (28:34):
I'm in my ignorance with pronouns as an l I
My my problem has been, even though I don't talk
like I was really good in English class, I know
that them and they is multiple people them and that
them and day and when I'm talking to one person, because.

Speaker 3 (28:54):
If you're a trans woman, all right, I'm gonna call
I'm gonna be with you. I'm gonna call you Susie.

Speaker 7 (28:58):
If you're a trans man, I'm gonna call you your
name's out of respect, right, I'm gonna respect you as
a human. Now when you go the extra mile nine
and you try to make me reframe my goddamn English
that I just want a long time in the Florida
school system and then it took me a long time
to figure out them day and it's my second land.
It's just it don't make no motherfucking sense.

Speaker 1 (29:18):
Into this conversation, because okay, heard where you're at with
they Yes, they should be able to have rights. They
can exist. Just don't ruin No, not ruin no, not ruined,
but just don't don't don't complicate my life essentially, What then,
are your views on the children?

Speaker 3 (29:38):
Children are fucking children? Not here. I am mother of two,
mother of too.

Speaker 7 (29:42):
As a mother of two, I have a twenty year
old and I have a four year old, a twenty
year old girl, four year old boy. Children want to
do a lot of times, whatever they see, they mimic
us as parents. They make their celebrity that they see,
they mimic their Disney Channel shows.

Speaker 3 (29:59):
They like all that. Do I think trans people have
been here since the beginning of time? Absolutely? Absolutely, We
are all so different. I don't think it's a new thing.
At the end of the day, we as parents should
have a right to say, what do we want our
children to see? How are children shaped? Gender?

Speaker 4 (30:19):
Yes?

Speaker 7 (30:20):
Now, if my child comes to me and I have
some For example, he's a boy's boy, it's ridiculous.

Speaker 3 (30:25):
He looks dirt for no reason.

Speaker 7 (30:27):
So if he came to me he wanted to play
with a doll, would I be like absolutely not?

Speaker 3 (30:31):
No, Okay, well, how are we playing with this doll? Now?

Speaker 9 (30:33):
It's my job as his mother to teach him like, okay, well,
then maybe let's talk about the eyes and let's learn
that this is hair, and how are we playing with
this doll?

Speaker 6 (30:40):
Now?

Speaker 7 (30:40):
If you want to put this doll up in your tity,
I'm gonna explain to you, well then your body can't
do that.

Speaker 3 (30:45):
They is. I'm gonna teach it. I'm the mother.

Speaker 7 (30:47):
The problem with these motherfuckers out here is that they
want Disney Channel and got them iPad in the school.
If they want everybody else to fucking parent their children
and teach him shit, teaching ship yourself.

Speaker 4 (30:58):
Okay, So I want to say something.

Speaker 6 (30:59):
It's very important to talk about, uh, the transgender with children,
because the only the only way to catch them, to
have this catch, what to catch their their their their changes. Okay,
Like you know when you grow breast, you get your period. Yes,
at teenage ears the best. That's why they puberty. That's
why they suggest catch puberty. That's how I mean catch puberty.

(31:19):
That's why they suggest doing it at eleven twelve. And
that's when I'm like, that's a little too early to
be making life changing decisions.

Speaker 3 (31:27):
To do what to change their gender?

Speaker 6 (31:29):
The best, the best if you want to be a
trans person, the best time to change your gender is
before puberty.

Speaker 3 (31:35):
I don't agree with doing anything.

Speaker 6 (31:37):
No, no, no, no, no, I'm not saying I'm saying that's.

Speaker 7 (31:40):
My if that's the case, I don't agree with that
at all. I don't think a child should be touched periods.
Do you want to wear a dress?

Speaker 2 (31:47):
Go for it.

Speaker 9 (31:48):
If we go through the proper channels of like, you
know what, my child maybe trance And this is really
it's an ongoing thing.

Speaker 3 (31:55):
It's been years. We've gone through therapy to really understand.

Speaker 7 (31:57):
I'm going to understand my kid. I'm gonna love my
kid no matter what. If this is the case, cool,
And we're going to lead this lifestyle until you're old
enough to understand the changes that you're making to your
body that are not reversible. And that is okay because
if you're living in your truth, you don't need the
surgery tomorrow.

Speaker 9 (32:13):
Yes, you feel uncomfortable, So I feel uncomfortable. I had
no tities when I was twenty two.

Speaker 3 (32:17):
I'm second.

Speaker 9 (32:17):
It has to make the changes once I was older.
I couldn't go in at eleven and get some titties.

Speaker 3 (32:22):
I was mad dad and have them. Yet, well, you
have a developer.

Speaker 5 (32:24):
So for educational purposes, yes, because enlighten me. Here, what
is the need to do it before puberty? What is
the other side of.

Speaker 6 (32:32):
It that because they don't make that, They don't make
the changes, like your body don't go through the changes
that it goes through when you grow hair.

Speaker 4 (32:39):
I mean, I don't know.

Speaker 1 (32:40):
So you're just stop.

Speaker 5 (32:41):
Its like a way to get in front of it
instead of.

Speaker 1 (32:46):
So and you mentioned surgery, but this would be he
would they would take to some mormonal hormonal bills and change.

Speaker 6 (32:54):
But my thing is this more thing is is that
I also don't want to say, here, we got a
lot to.

Speaker 8 (32:57):
Get to go to women's rights and voters and trists
and what they just to turn into the trance episode.

Speaker 9 (33:03):
Yeah, I definitely don't want to have some contracts coming
up to make sure don't get you do a lot.

Speaker 3 (33:13):
But I agree with what I said.

Speaker 1 (33:15):
I guess then yeah, let's let's change topics just a
little bit, because that has everything to do I.

Speaker 3 (33:21):
Love trans people.

Speaker 4 (33:23):
You want.

Speaker 2 (33:25):
I think we fair and handed it, not as an ally.

Speaker 1 (33:29):
I'm sorry as a member of the.

Speaker 3 (33:31):
I was wrong.

Speaker 4 (33:32):
You remember.

Speaker 1 (33:35):
To be on the cue?

Speaker 3 (33:37):
What do we talk?

Speaker 6 (33:38):
Explained to me with the.

Speaker 3 (33:39):
The what's queer?

Speaker 1 (33:43):
Queer is the term that can refer to individuals whose
sexual orientation or gender identity does not conform to traditional norms.
Often used as an umbrella, it is also a word
that has a history of being used as a uh
what that means?

Speaker 7 (33:58):
You don't want to be you don't do that? Do
you just don't want to be told what to do?

Speaker 1 (34:02):
Oh my god, there's like.

Speaker 9 (34:03):
Nobody talking about you myself, and I'm just attraction ship
That's all it means.

Speaker 1 (34:06):
And she says she got contracts coming up.

Speaker 6 (34:08):
Do you hear how queer and bisexual but it's not
more sexual?

Speaker 1 (34:14):
Well no, I'm more fluid. So like I'm attracted to
trans women, like I like women.

Speaker 4 (34:22):
What do you mean you're trying to what's a trans woman?
I really don't know.

Speaker 6 (34:24):
I'm asking a trans woman.

Speaker 1 (34:26):
You want to be a yes, but I can be
transitioning to women, transition to man.

Speaker 4 (34:31):
Okay, cool, think of it that way. Okay, perfect.

Speaker 6 (34:33):
So you're attracted to you attransmit to me if I
grew breast and you'll be attracted to me.

Speaker 1 (34:39):
No, No, I wouldn't be attracted to you.

Speaker 8 (34:41):
Why.

Speaker 6 (34:48):
I can't even imagine I would take that off the record.
I would not be a cute girl at all.

Speaker 3 (34:50):
I just wonder.

Speaker 7 (34:51):
Surgery does wonder she's saying from here up a beautiful woman,
from here down a man?

Speaker 1 (34:56):
Oh man? Yeah, I watch it. I'm attracted to it,
which is why I identify now it's queer. I'm not
just bisexual bias to man a moment, have no but
I watch it and I'm aroused.

Speaker 6 (35:07):
So just because you watch it means you're.

Speaker 1 (35:09):
I'm attraction to I have never met you. I have
never met a trans woman in person that I'm like,
but I gag over ones online I follow them. I'll
be like, damn you, I pay for their only fans.

Speaker 4 (35:26):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (35:26):
Like, because it's so difficult for me to find uh, we're.

Speaker 6 (35:31):
Talking about don't.

Speaker 3 (35:35):
Let's come back.

Speaker 6 (35:38):
It's like national treasure. Like she's Nicholas Case. She has
a crew, Like we gotta find them, Like what the
are we looking for?

Speaker 1 (35:45):
Let me be great? Motherfuck?

Speaker 4 (35:47):
I love it?

Speaker 1 (35:48):
Oh my god, Okay, let's get into see. Don't you
ask me why I'm a cute. Don't be questioned? Why
identify how?

Speaker 3 (35:56):
I just learning that's a whole different.

Speaker 4 (35:59):
I'm glad you said that I'm not the cuntry I
was saying with you.

Speaker 6 (36:02):
That's why I stay away from it because it almost
because gay people walk around like I ain't what I am.
Shut the don't ask me no questions. It's my life,
it's my decision. And it's like, okay, well teach you
like that, but everybody, I'm gonna treat you like that.
And then when I treat you like that, you don't
respect me. It's like, what do you want?

Speaker 4 (36:17):
You want me to be? What you are?

Speaker 6 (36:19):
I'm me and I love being me. And you and
you and you love being you.

Speaker 4 (36:22):
Let's allow that.

Speaker 6 (36:23):
To be.

Speaker 1 (36:26):
I'm gonna try to navigate this. No, no, no, talk about something.

Speaker 3 (36:29):
That's the only reason why I said that.

Speaker 7 (36:31):
We just need to respect people and they need to
stop doing some some people straight, trans or gay or
whatever else the fuck stop doing the moment.

Speaker 6 (36:39):
Can I say something doing you the most? Yes, you
said something, you just said. I love what you said.
But let's be specific. Let's calm down on both sides.
Correct the people who say they have a problem with it,
and the people that are let's all calm the funk
down and talk to each other.

Speaker 4 (37:00):
I feel like they're talking to nobody.

Speaker 6 (37:01):
That's why when people say I'm controversial, I'm like, all
I'm doing is talking Like, how is someone talking controversial?

Speaker 4 (37:05):
They're telling you their opinion.

Speaker 1 (37:06):
But I guess that's the thing here, and I want
to be clear. All episodes of selective ignorance, whether the
audience thinks we're ignorant, whether we live in our ignorance,
this is us having conversations, and we can all agree
to disagree on all this shit. Let's be very sure.

Speaker 6 (37:21):
But can I say something? But the problem is is
that when you don't agree. You become the enemy for sure,
and that's my problem. I'm not your enemy. I just
don't understand you. So I don't want to participate right now.

Speaker 1 (37:32):
I guess, I guess in terms of the conversation with
the projections of your thoughts and views that essentially could
be harmful to communities. How that's what, and that's.

Speaker 7 (37:43):
Why if I don't think my view is harm neither.

Speaker 1 (37:48):
You know what, we're just gonna go right into calling
them out. Then on their ship, you said you don't
believe that your views can be harmful. This is why
this episode came about. This is why I flew her
in to sit right across from you, so little have
this conversation. Right So, as a friend, we've been friends
for I don't know, fourteen years or so. She did
something recently publicly that I was just like, WHOA, you're

(38:12):
my friend, I really care about you, and I have
a problem with this. So and I did. I wrote
it in the comments. I said it was very republican
of her. So, so Carla has these neighbors that like
to play play it none, no.

Speaker 7 (38:25):
Giving, because you don't you're not gonna freak.

Speaker 1 (38:33):
So good, Okay, hold on, I'm going to summarize this
before I play it.

Speaker 6 (38:37):
Hold on, I'm gonna because I'll judge it.

Speaker 1 (38:40):
No, no, no, it ain't gonna take long.

Speaker 3 (38:43):
Yes, okay, I'll set up No no.

Speaker 1 (38:45):
No, no no no no wait wait wait, Jason, I am
going to summarize it and play it to show how
I can actually RelA something very well, and before we
get into the goddamn topic of it all, I will
allowed Carla to express why she thought this was appropriate
to place on public platforms and why me, as someone

(39:08):
who doesn't hold these same views, felt it was wrong
for her to express this. It sucks because my shit
is Oh, here we go, Here we go. Okay, here
we go. Here's the video. The summary is Carla took
to Instagram to express her frustrations with her neighbors who
play loud music at all hours of the day and night. Okay,
she believes that the ordinance of the music should be

(39:32):
stopped at reasonable hours for her to sleep.

Speaker 2 (39:36):
She chose to.

Speaker 1 (39:41):
She chose to take it to the Internet to express
these frustrations. However, while also saying these undocumented motherfuckers, brought
up that they were undocumented possibly illegal immigrants that were doing.
So this was what she chose to bring to the internet.

Speaker 9 (40:02):
Because it shouldn't be a big deal. I really don't care,
but now I do. So last night I didn't sleep well.
It's been months now where multiple times a week, they're
just blasting music, drinking. They have multiple people outside, folks
being dropped off, and I'm like, I get it.

Speaker 1 (40:18):
I get it.

Speaker 9 (40:18):
Right now, it's a very tough time and they're all
trying to work, and I'm sure they go to work
and when they get back to their house, it's like
fighting and drinking. All here is cans and bottles being
thrown into the garbage can. Once they get super drunk,
they start fighting and the music goes on one, two, three.

Speaker 4 (40:34):
Four o'clock in the morning.

Speaker 9 (40:35):
My room was the one closest to them, so I
am like trying to put a drown on music like
white noise, brown noise, you know, things to keep me distracted.

Speaker 3 (40:43):
Me and my son are right there. So I called
their landlord.

Speaker 9 (40:47):
I told him, like, bro's got kids.

Speaker 1 (40:49):
She's like, oh, I'm working on it, blah blah blah.

Speaker 3 (40:51):
I just feel sorry for.

Speaker 1 (40:52):
Them me too. I get it, I absolutely get it.

Speaker 9 (40:55):
But now you're disturbing my monies. And now to top
it all off icing on the cake of the day,
I found the knife looks like this one right here. Yes,
this knife was found in my backyard where my son
plays on our fence, along with like food wrappers and
like ajax and just trash that they're throwing over my fence.

Speaker 1 (41:13):
And now we've got a problem.

Speaker 9 (41:14):
Because this could have hurt really my son and I
am pissed. So I told the landlords this, and my
problem is that I don't want to call the police
or call someone because y'all are gonna get arrested in
the port we are under Trump at this point in time.

Speaker 3 (41:26):
This has been going on before.

Speaker 9 (41:27):
Trump, but now it's like it's not going to be
good for you if I call the police. And I'm
terrified to call them because I don't know what's gonna
happen to them. But at the same time, my family
comes first.

Speaker 1 (41:36):
So here was my problem with it and why I
said it was very republican of her. Carla is a
public person. Carla is hold on well, and it started
it is started by calling them undocumented. First off, So
first off, the language of that hold on that we've
gotten under the Trump administration is to immediately refer to

(41:56):
somebody as undocumented. That removes them as humans and makes
them the illegal aliens that Trump is wanting us to
see people as. That is my problem. It wasn't my
neighbors this, it wasn't humanizing them, it was these undocumented
aliens essentially. Right, then cool, she gets into the I
don't want to call the police. I don't want to
do this. However, being a very public person addressing that

(42:18):
these people are right next door, there's public records, and
this is the Internet, so you already referencing them as
being undocumented, You being a homeowner, you being a public
person and saying this whether you want to call the
police or not. We've seen ice run into college dorm
rooms and all of these things for people sharing their
thoughts and views online who may or may not have

(42:39):
the correct documents to stay here. So when I left
the comment in saying this was very republican of you,
whether you sat here and sugarcoated and said I don't
want to call the police, by publicly addressing them as
undocumented on a public platform, put that entire to put
all of the people in that home in jeopardy. Of
being deported. Mind you, then when I bring it up
to her today day, because this was a couple of

(43:02):
weeks ago, please share what your response was.

Speaker 3 (43:05):
I forgot, Oh well, I'll tell.

Speaker 1 (43:08):
I didn't forget. She said, oh fuck yeah, I'll call
Ice my goddamn self to get these motherfuckers out of here.
So the idea, and what I'm talking about is the rhetoric,
the rhetoric of the views that is a simp that
is essentially spewing into our community. Is the fact that
we can say that we don't agree with Trump, we
don't like Trump, we don't support Trump. However, for a

(43:29):
friend of mine to kind of spew the rhetoric that
if you hear something enough, it starts seeping into you,
that is what I believe Trump is doing to the
entire country in our views, which is why I was like,
this was very irresponsible and very republican of you to
post online.

Speaker 3 (43:45):
I think it's very irresponsible that I want to jump in.

Speaker 6 (43:48):
Yeah, I'm gonna be I agree with you now, but
here's why. But here's why. Because we have this thing
in this world where it's like we feel like, because
we're doing it, you should do it too. Because I'm
over here doing it. Why are you tripping you? So
it's like it's almost like anytime you're anti crowd, you're Republican.
Anytime you're individual, you're republican. Anytime you say I don't

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like that, you're republican. When it's like you're a Democrat,
we agree with all the.

Speaker 4 (44:13):
Ship, all this ship.

Speaker 6 (44:15):
If you want to identify the basketball, you are basketball man,
and we're going and it's like, bro, like, at what
happens that one day when somebody walks room and says,
identify as a pedophile, What the fuck we're gonna do?
Then we're gonna no, no, what is I'm being honest
If we're saying, if you can scrat.

Speaker 9 (44:33):
Well a man walking here and say I identify as
a pedophile, but I don't act on it.

Speaker 3 (44:36):
It's just attraction for children, but I don't act on
it because I do. So Democrats will be like.

Speaker 6 (44:40):
Let's help, let's let's give on some money, let's put kids, let's.

Speaker 1 (44:47):
Show the world, let's take it away from political parties
real quick. Right in what we're saying, you're mad that
the identity, you're mad that the with it, that also
the label of Republicans. Just because she said hold on,
it doesn't mean okay. My question is, though, if a
white person said it, it done.

Speaker 8 (45:05):
No.

Speaker 1 (45:05):
No, if a white person, because I'm talking about specifically
the title and lameling of her referring to them as
undocumented and it's attacked and its association to Trump and
rhetoric that I believe is harmful, And what is the
difference to a white person saying these niggas I and
you not identifying that person as a racist?

Speaker 6 (45:26):
I think I should. I think I would love to
be both of your friends. I'm really her friend because
I can police this shit perfectly. Because Mandy is crazy,
She's not wrong. Because Mandy is Mandy doesn't realize that
she really is the the warriors. She thinks we're the
crazy one. She's really the crazy one. So let's so
let's be number one. Let's be clear.

Speaker 4 (45:43):
If I'm being kept up to four in the morning.

Speaker 6 (45:45):
I'm not gonna say these wonderful individuals across the street,
I'm gonna call them bitches what I'm pissed now. By
the way, it's the same concept what happened on my
show where someone says something that you was pissed off.

Speaker 1 (45:59):
If you call somebody a nothing's gonna happen. If you
call someone undocumented, they're going to be deported.

Speaker 3 (46:04):
At the prefech.

Speaker 7 (46:05):
I need to stop this because can we actually also
add in here. I've been to their house multiple times
and ask them to stop the ship.

Speaker 9 (46:11):
I have called their landlords multiple times. I keep going
over the turned down the music. There's buses being dropped
off with ten to twelve niggas undocumented.

Speaker 1 (46:20):
You can't call it niggas. They're not. First off, you
know your Puerto Rican I already don't like when.

Speaker 3 (46:25):
You say that you are Caucasians.

Speaker 1 (46:26):
Okay, whatever, But yes, she got a white monk. We're
not where.

Speaker 4 (46:33):
That's nothing.

Speaker 6 (46:34):
But Latina says undocumented. It's like a black person saying nigga.
I'm like you, if I said it'd be a little racist,
but you said it was like undocumented.

Speaker 7 (46:41):
Part is just the reality of it, because I'm trying
to go to you and tell you, hey, I don't
give a fuck that you're undocumented. I know plenty of
people that are lit are they are undocumented.

Speaker 1 (46:51):
That is what it is.

Speaker 6 (46:51):
You want them to act undocumented here after documented.

Speaker 4 (46:55):
Undocumented over here.

Speaker 6 (46:59):
You don't want me to call on you like you
don't want to get no truckle yn't do that.

Speaker 3 (47:06):
They're gonna call the police.

Speaker 4 (47:07):
Mandy comes from the streets. Many come from the streets.

Speaker 6 (47:10):
You know, we got eighteen pounds of the trunk the
police pull next to us. I fel like, we don't
have eighteen pounds in the trump.

Speaker 4 (47:19):
Shut up normal.

Speaker 9 (47:21):
So you're gonna tell me that if you have a house,
because I'm a homeowner, right, so I can't just pick
up and leave and go to an apartment complex and
that is not their home.

Speaker 3 (47:29):
They're also renting it, so they have I know.

Speaker 1 (47:31):
Here goes the class system of it all. Correct.

Speaker 7 (47:34):
I own my ship and I own it to be there.
So now it's the responsibility of the only mortgage they
pay rents they still pay to live there.

Speaker 4 (47:42):
Cool.

Speaker 6 (47:42):
No, no one person saved that their money. They down payment
and the other person whatever.

Speaker 2 (47:47):
Hold on.

Speaker 8 (47:48):
I want to ask something that I think the uknight
shall too okay for the United thing I think, which
I think her posting it because he has a following
is irresponsible. Yeah, I actually think she showed some compassion
because she said if I call them, I know something
bad will happen.

Speaker 4 (48:02):
To them.

Speaker 2 (48:02):
To me, that actually sounds a little Democratist. But but
I want.

Speaker 8 (48:05):
To what I want to ask is this Both of
y'all kind of head nodded Carla and Ray when you
said if somebody said that they identified as a pedophile
but didn't act on it, y'all both were like and
Democrats would be like, Yeah, that's okay.

Speaker 4 (48:18):
Let's help them.

Speaker 2 (48:19):
Oh, let's help them.

Speaker 8 (48:20):
So I want to know both of y'all takes on
why you think that that's what how Democrats get down.

Speaker 6 (48:25):
Because the Democrat Party is a party full of fucking pussies.

Speaker 4 (48:28):
Man, I'm just be honest, man. They're like they like,
they like, let's let me tell you something. Let me
tell you something. Their party that's full.

Speaker 6 (48:34):
They they all they do is like they make black
people feel bad for not voting for them and all
of It's like, I'm.

Speaker 2 (48:39):
Taking you said anti crowd, and I know that came.

Speaker 6 (48:41):
From that that the Democrats are the crowd.

Speaker 4 (48:43):
That's why ninety seven percent of media.

Speaker 6 (48:46):
Was dis Trump this whole election and he still won
because it shows you that they don't care about which
We're not watching you for your opinion on politics, so
watching you because you're entertaining, so fucking entertaining.

Speaker 1 (48:58):
That's why. That's why, really he's not You see how
he said he don't care about people opinions. It's because
he said, I live and move like a Republican. That's
why my mega truck is parked.

Speaker 4 (49:07):
That's that's true.

Speaker 6 (49:09):
Just tell people, Okay, let me. I've been thinking about
writing a book. You know, I want to write a book.
I want the book to be called the book to recall,
think like a Republican, have the heart of a democrat,
democrat guy, and this little thing about But they don't think.

Speaker 3 (49:23):
That to me before you publish, because I gonna write
something in the beginning.

Speaker 4 (49:26):
I got you.

Speaker 2 (49:26):
So what's your take off? Why did you say that?
If somebody said that identified as a tepilem.

Speaker 3 (49:32):
They just want to appease people for no fucking reason,
no reason.

Speaker 7 (49:38):
That is not humanity. Humanity is being good to people.
Humanity is being really understanding, learning, educating yourself.

Speaker 3 (49:45):
That's how can.

Speaker 1 (49:47):
You say all of that when the Republican Party is
removing critical race theory, is citing me and writes some women.

Speaker 3 (49:54):
That's why I'm not a full Republican, but I'm a
bil But.

Speaker 1 (49:57):
My part is is when we talk about what like
humanity in this sense.

Speaker 3 (50:02):
Or peace or it's disgusting but cool.

Speaker 1 (50:05):
What I'm saying, though, is when you project things that
aren't really humane. I haven't projected anything to me calling
people undocumented. So do you feel like it's humane in
any essence, whether they did something right or wrong?

Speaker 3 (50:24):
Literally did not sorry you.

Speaker 1 (50:25):
Literally did not let you got this?

Speaker 3 (50:34):
Sorry?

Speaker 4 (50:34):
Sorry, God Jesus.

Speaker 3 (50:40):
That just made me mad.

Speaker 1 (50:42):
I didn't even as.

Speaker 3 (50:45):
Fuck trigger directs.

Speaker 1 (50:50):
My question is, if you don't view that as inhumane,
is there any level of humanity that exists in deporting
people who have built families and lives here in the States.
Because if you're saying, ain't nothing in humane about your
action of calling these people undocumented knowing that it could
lead to the consequence of them being deported, is there

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any humanity at all in deporting people out of this country?
And that was a question because a lot of people
believe that if more, if this was just Americans and
we we removed people from coming in, that we would
be more collective.

Speaker 4 (51:26):
Agree And I believe that.

Speaker 1 (51:27):
So you agree in building the wall, you agree in
keeping immigrants.

Speaker 6 (51:31):
I no, no, listen I think that America's biggest issue is
and the biggest advantage, by the way, is that with
so many different people here, I'm about say we're a
melting pot.

Speaker 4 (51:42):
But that's what I'm saying.

Speaker 6 (51:43):
But you would like a rebrand and no, no, no, no, no, no,
no no no, I want to say this. Democrats focus
on humanity, Republicans focus on America. That's controversial what I
just said, by the way, because you're saying that you're
having a humanity a human issue, why would you treat
people like that? And America in America is like if
they're not American, they shouldn't be here. The same if
you're not Chinese, you can't be It's the same rules

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everywhere else. We just want to bend rules over here
because if we want to be the humane country, the
country that cares about people, but we really don't. We
only care about the week. We only care about the
week and who's struggling. We only care about who we
deem is struggling. When like Dave Chappelle said that the
lgbt Q plus community jumped over with niggas because they

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would look at as the ones that was struggling the
most of America compared to black people.

Speaker 4 (52:28):
It's the truth. And what I'm saying and when I'm
saying is that Republicans think like this.

Speaker 6 (52:33):
Listen, So let me tell you why I changed my opinion.
I used to live with these girls when I was broke.

Speaker 4 (52:37):
I was broke.

Speaker 6 (52:38):
I moved in the house with these three girls. One
of the girls no, no, no no, this is broke
as fun out by the way.

Speaker 4 (52:43):
No no no, no, no no no.

Speaker 6 (52:45):
One of the girls is actually Bambi from Love and
Hip Hop, So like, these are like my friends, these
are like real people. We used to live the game
movie You're brocast because I didn't have nowhere to go.
So basically the I was like, you Democrat, Republicans are
able to hate black people. And one of the girls
is like she was always and she was like, I
let you talk politics, but I don't be honest with you.
My dad is a Republican mayor in Colorado, and I'm like,

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this is Colorado Springs.

Speaker 4 (53:08):
It's a black girl.

Speaker 6 (53:09):
And I looked at her like she was the devil,
Like how the fuck could you I'm twenty one, twenty two,
And then she asked me questions. She was like, man,
ask you a question, do you believe that your money
do you want your money to take care of people
that don't have I said no.

Speaker 4 (53:20):
By the way, I'm broke as fuck when I'm saying this.

Speaker 1 (53:22):
But by the way, that's the only reason why I
get the nickname the Sansus, because it's because I don't
believe that I should take care of people who aren't
picking them themselves up by the boot tracks.

Speaker 6 (53:30):
But then let me explain them to you then, But
I am absolutely not no. But one moment I pulled
Democrats no no.

Speaker 1 (53:36):
Because here here's the thing. Because of the way I
view humanity, there is no dollar amount that I would save,
and that's in terms of like taxes that would lead
me to go against women not having the choice or
autonomy of their body or LGBTQ people not being able
to be married if that's you know, the union they want.

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So for me, even as my bake account grows, there's
nothing in me that will vote for a party that
goes against the rights of people being able to exist
in living in themselves. So when we talk about yeah,
do I want to sit here and pay for people?

Speaker 4 (54:12):
No?

Speaker 1 (54:12):
But essentially the my my reason is to not caring
about how much money I'm paying taxes because as long
as it goes to oh no, no, no, there's way there's
loopholes that I do.

Speaker 3 (54:23):
But let's be very right poles to take away from
the people. That is you talking about.

Speaker 1 (54:29):
I'm not driving bach, I'm talking about the rights like
I would never not vote for a party that goes
against the rights of LGBTQ plus women. Those groups to
me means mean way.

Speaker 6 (54:41):
More to me than a dollar, is what I By
the way, I love That's one of my favorite things.

Speaker 4 (54:44):
I love about you. I love that.

Speaker 6 (54:45):
But I'm asking you a question, said I love that,
but no, my simple question is do you think that
Republicans have gotten abortions?

Speaker 4 (54:53):
Also? Of course, of course hypocrite No.

Speaker 6 (54:57):
No, it's not a hypocrite there. No, let me tell
you how they're looking at it. They're looking at it
like a father wood in the house right where it's like,
you're my daughter, Hey, I want you to have a
baby for marriage, So we're gonna get an abortion this time.
But now that I know that you're fucking you're not.
You're gonna live your life this way or I'm cutting
you off right, So then it becomes like here's the
rules or how we're going to do it. So my

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only thing I'm saying to you is that sometimes we
we're so biased from my side, we don't realize that
the shoe was on the other foot of it was
something that.

Speaker 4 (55:25):
We win trips.

Speaker 1 (55:26):
But also, I guess that's my problem with you.

Speaker 6 (55:27):
No, no, no, A Democrat party is like I want to
have a bait. I want to have fun as much
as I want and kill as many babies I want.
No one is going to vote for that.

Speaker 3 (55:35):
That's ridiculous.

Speaker 1 (55:35):
Oh my god, you're both serious.

Speaker 4 (55:37):
But that's how.

Speaker 6 (55:39):
It's like, I want to get my body if I
want to kill babies every day.

Speaker 9 (55:42):
It's like literally, just yes, I do believe. I truly
believe that people are.

Speaker 7 (55:49):
Like, if I want to go out here and have
ten abortions, I should be able to do so.

Speaker 3 (55:52):
No, you should not be able.

Speaker 4 (55:53):
That's my problem.

Speaker 9 (55:53):
We should not be able to do that. You should
not be able to use abortions.

Speaker 3 (55:56):
That's first control. You should not go ahead.

Speaker 1 (55:59):
You should not as a as one moment abortions. Hold on,
hold on you ready, I'm gonna use your own logic
on you. We had an episode. Right, Well, we talked
about how sometimes it takes people years a long time
to learn from their mistakes, right, especially in terms of
choosing partners, the trauma around it. X y Z elemental

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p right to me. As people, we all take different paths,
different journeys. Sometimes it takes us longer to learn from
our mistakes than others. So, in no way, shape or form,
do I think that you or you have any right
to tell a person that the decisions that they're making
on their own body is a wrong decision. Man, you're

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one of the wait so you believe that abortion is murdered.

Speaker 7 (56:49):
I believe there's a lot of responsibility that you have
as a person who's fucking knowing that you're going to
reproduce a human being, and you continue to keep fun
and having these babies and saying, Okay, they're not having
the basic right.

Speaker 3 (57:06):
You're right, but they're.

Speaker 7 (57:07):
Not having different So and in your response, it's like
we just had that conversation.

Speaker 9 (57:11):
Right, you keep making mistakes, and I've made a mistake.
I continue dealing with these names.

Speaker 7 (57:14):
Why you ain't bringing grace into the conversation. I'll tell
you where the grace comes. You had an abortion, Okay,
you had an abortion when you were sixteen. Fuck, you
had an abortion when you were twenty one.

Speaker 1 (57:24):
Maybe it's gonna take her so she gets thirty bis.

Speaker 3 (57:28):
No, no, no, that's oh my bad.

Speaker 1 (57:29):
I killed somebody.

Speaker 3 (57:30):
Damn I kill somebody else.

Speaker 1 (57:31):
Wait, oh see, I did it like.

Speaker 3 (57:33):
You drive you ready, driver, I killed this person. But
you'll hold on. She needs to learn.

Speaker 7 (57:37):
No, there are certain mistakes that you make in life
that are not okay, and we need to have agument you.

Speaker 1 (57:41):
You are not the person to declare that you were.
You're just the person to declare that. Nor are you
as a father who hold on when in your example
a man, which is who we still have majority making
decisions in the government, which is why we were so
uh looking forward to Kamala or Hillary or getting more

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women in positions to make laws. Hold on when I
say we are, I would say we all?

Speaker 4 (58:07):
Was it okay?

Speaker 3 (58:08):
I would no, I would love a woman as a president.

Speaker 1 (58:10):
But I'm saying that that's the importance, right, we have
men creating these laws to tell us what we should
do with our bodies. Where yes, you could sit here
and say mistakes of getting multiple abortions, you don't think
it's right you think they should have learned. You don't
think that they should be able to you. On the
other hand, as a as a man who's like, okay,
I would like you to get married first. The problem
is this, the the the erasure and the what happened,

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the reversal of Rob Wade and having all of these
stipulations on abortion is not accounting for the rapes and
the pregnancies that come about from ways that are not consensual, and.

Speaker 3 (58:46):
So what You're not getting raped ten times?

Speaker 4 (58:49):
Mandy.

Speaker 6 (58:49):
I want I want to say this many many. I
want to say this.

Speaker 3 (58:53):
For time you got read get on birth control?

Speaker 6 (58:55):
Maybe you whoa many I want to say I might
want to.

Speaker 4 (59:00):
Mandy, Mandy, I want to say this. I want to
say this. I agree with I agree with them.

Speaker 3 (59:05):
I don't know if it's so ignorant. I don't know.

Speaker 6 (59:08):
No, listen, I agree with Carla. The only thing I
don't agree with is no, I'm talking about everything she said.
I only think I didn't agree with was I don't
think the government should have a role in how women do.
But I do think there's a moral thing that's wrong.
And I'm just like, I don't want none to do it.

Speaker 1 (59:21):
Here's my problem with here's my problem with bringing in morals.
You are a Christian, there are in a lot of
other countries in the world. You have the Muslim religions
don't agree with you one moment. So when I say,
when you're sitting here as Americans talking about the melting
pot that exists, and someone who is fine with the
fact that we have multiple religions, we have multiple ethnicities

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and traditions and backgrounds, you there's no way at all
that you could sit here and bring up the moral
code or compass.

Speaker 4 (59:52):
Wait.

Speaker 1 (59:52):
Wait, all of those things are moral moral to me. Listen,
let me finish, let me lay in the plane here.

Speaker 6 (01:00:00):
Morals are subjective, I agree.

Speaker 1 (01:00:02):
And so where we talk about even not liking non
monogamy or polygamy and polyamory, if you go across the
goddamn pond, those things are morally acceptable and fine. If
you go into different religion backgrounds, those things are morally
in fine. If you go into the black community and
compare our cultural, cultural background and upbringing in comparison to

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white Americans, it's different. So the moral code and compass
does not to me. It's so subjective that you can't
sit here and say I want the government to instill
laws that are morally correct.

Speaker 3 (01:00:36):
I think we're talking about it. We're talking about an extreme.

Speaker 1 (01:00:42):
That's the one thing you didn't agree with her.

Speaker 7 (01:00:45):
White men should govern our body. I don't think men
should tell us what to do with our body. I
also do think that there are very very irresponsible people,
and I do think that there has to be some
what's come when you go bowling and the little things
come up, but there has to be some bumpers.

Speaker 3 (01:01:00):
Come on.

Speaker 7 (01:01:00):
We can't just be letting people go off the rails
because there's mental health, Because there are people that are
just you know, they they have an evil spirit. In
this world, there is evil, doesn't matter what religion you
come from, except for atheists that I don't I'm not
really I won't even go divinsations.

Speaker 4 (01:01:12):
I don't know.

Speaker 9 (01:01:13):
But every single religion, across every pond that we have,
believes that there is evil.

Speaker 3 (01:01:18):
There are evil people.

Speaker 9 (01:01:19):
So all I'm saying is, let's have some bumpers, let's
have some leeways. No, I'm not telling you women can't
get abortions. I don't believe in that.

Speaker 7 (01:01:27):
I think it's bullshit that the Republicans whold ever said
you can't get an abortion when you're pregnant. The woman
were now in Georgia who's pregnant at nine weeks and
it's brain did and they're keeping her there as an
incubator with the child be alive with disabilities, and they're
putting that pressure on the family, and the family is
like please, like we don't want this, and they're not
allowing this woman's been dead, dead and they're using your
hair as an incubator. That's not okay. What I'm saying

(01:01:49):
is we have to have these bumpers, but we can't
just let them go off the rails and say I'm
just gonna have ten abortions because it's my body.

Speaker 4 (01:01:55):
My choice.

Speaker 6 (01:01:56):
It's like the three Low.

Speaker 9 (01:02:00):
If we have it for murder, and we have it
for other crimes, why not for this That just means
you're over.

Speaker 1 (01:02:06):
But rich people do. But that's the thing people do.
That that is human nature to make mistakes, to not
learn from your mistakes. So my problem is it is
my body, my choice, and maybe it's it's gonna take
me more longer to learn this than you.

Speaker 9 (01:02:21):
But if you vexed affecting now is it affecting a
child that you're bringing into this world.

Speaker 7 (01:02:26):
That's not over. And my problem here is that there's
birth control. My problem here is that you.

Speaker 3 (01:02:33):
Can if you don't want to have children, then go
ahead and get you know, get your tube.

Speaker 1 (01:02:37):
Let's let's be very clear with that. And I've spoken
to this a lot as a woman with no kids
who doesn't want them.

Speaker 4 (01:02:44):
It is not that easy.

Speaker 1 (01:02:45):
Because if we're talking about the political landscape, also the
health care of the health care in the US, a doctor,
because patriarchy, there are male doctors that still do not
believe that as a woman who does has not bared
these two children, they will not tire to.

Speaker 4 (01:03:02):
My cousin kids.

Speaker 3 (01:03:04):
She got.

Speaker 4 (01:03:07):
My cousin wanted to go get that.

Speaker 1 (01:03:10):
But also this is not an ad skin condoms works
for me. I think a man need to be just
as responsible.

Speaker 4 (01:03:16):
I'm gonna say this.

Speaker 6 (01:03:16):
I have been with so many women in my life.
I've only had one pregnant, and I've been with more
women than most men could dream of.

Speaker 3 (01:03:24):
Sion what Okay, he was sick illness, but I.

Speaker 6 (01:03:31):
Can I can admit that no, probably it was though
I didn't I like love as a child, so I
was sleeping with multiple women to make up for I don't.
That's one thing about me. I'm not mad. There are
women that I've been fucking for twelve thirteen years, and
we've used condoms for twelve thirteen years.

Speaker 4 (01:03:46):
I will I don't play that.

Speaker 7 (01:03:48):
I don't saying like, let's just put some responsibility in
adults with sex, the same way we put it with
driving drunk, the same way we put it with committing
other crimes and stealing.

Speaker 9 (01:03:58):
There are there are guidelines.

Speaker 3 (01:04:00):
We have to have guidelines.

Speaker 1 (01:04:03):
I want to ask you what do you both believe
before we get out here? What do you both believe
your most liberal point of view is like.

Speaker 2 (01:04:11):
I feel like I feel like you're actually both really liberal.
They just they just don't want the purity of it all.

Speaker 1 (01:04:25):
Listen, because I want to know what the thoughts of this.
You align very much with the Republican Party. What I'm
saying is, what is the thing that tips.

Speaker 9 (01:04:33):
You over to still vote that the extremism.

Speaker 7 (01:04:38):
I don't like how it goes to the extreme with
so many all of these topics, it goes.

Speaker 6 (01:04:43):
To the extreme, and to me and to me, I
feel like blue had a blue syd had an agenda,
and I'm being honest with you. Men, wasn't included.

Speaker 4 (01:04:50):
It is not enough.

Speaker 6 (01:04:51):
I don't see, and I'm famous for saying this on record.
I much rather live next door to a racist redneck
that I know don't like black people that votes for
votes for Trump, then the next to a blue voting
white person. I think because they vote blue, they're not racist,
but they don't want my kids dating their cat like
they don't want my kids date their kids.

Speaker 4 (01:05:09):
I rather know who my enemy is. I am who
I am right now.

Speaker 6 (01:05:12):
Today because I realized the world was against me and
I changed it and I became.

Speaker 7 (01:05:15):
Someone that's that's your neighbor. This is our government necessid.

Speaker 4 (01:05:20):
No, no, no, it's the same concept.

Speaker 7 (01:05:21):
I don't know it's the same concept. I hear you,
but just you know who your neighbor is. No nigga
go and work at or whatever and does what it does.

Speaker 3 (01:05:28):
This is our present.

Speaker 1 (01:05:29):
I'm gonna bleep out when you say the N word.

Speaker 3 (01:05:31):
That's fine, that's fine, but listen, I.

Speaker 6 (01:05:36):
Want to say this. I'm very liberal. I believe that
people should live that life.

Speaker 1 (01:05:39):
I just believe.

Speaker 4 (01:05:40):
Listen.

Speaker 6 (01:05:41):
I just said you're conservative, but listen, this is my gun.
I listen, I am, I got a gun on me
right now. I get guns everywhere in my body.

Speaker 4 (01:05:51):
I go.

Speaker 3 (01:05:51):
You have to keep it everywhere.

Speaker 6 (01:05:53):
You have to, like we have to, wouldn't you like protect?

Speaker 4 (01:05:58):
Yeah?

Speaker 5 (01:05:58):
So, Mandy, like we had had this conversation. I'm not
even fully here and I'm like, how do you not
adust immediately?

Speaker 2 (01:06:08):
You know you have a training when in Rome you
have a training.

Speaker 4 (01:06:11):
Right.

Speaker 1 (01:06:13):
Bullet This bitch talks about God's plan.

Speaker 4 (01:06:18):
My life, save your money from.

Speaker 1 (01:06:20):
Life is already like it's already squared out to what's
going to happen in my life.

Speaker 7 (01:06:24):
That doesn't mean that you don't have free will and
that you should also be protective of yourself and your family.
Although God knows where you're going, that doesn't mean you
don't protect yourself and your family.

Speaker 4 (01:06:32):
Okay, where do you think this?

Speaker 6 (01:06:34):
Like, like I'm telling you, I believe that, Like the
liberals have been leading us to a way where it's
like I'm afraid for this country, Like my friends are
leaving because it's like it's like either you got to
be a prisoner and be a Republican and be straight
and don't do nothing, or you be a Democrat you're
fucking everybody.

Speaker 4 (01:06:49):
It's like.

Speaker 1 (01:06:51):
Everybody republics.

Speaker 4 (01:07:02):
I just want to.

Speaker 3 (01:07:04):
Our country. I want to I love capitalism.

Speaker 7 (01:07:06):
I want to be able to do my business and
make as much money as I want with parameters. I
want to make sure that the money that I'm making
also is not being used for evil. I want to
know that you to this country. We can have parameters.
We can have parameters, and it's all stems from my
beliefs and my religion.

Speaker 1 (01:07:25):
Yes, and my I should have had her talk to
you about Diddy. Then you wouldn't have liked to because
she would choose your motherfucker.

Speaker 3 (01:07:31):
No, I don't think so. I think.

Speaker 2 (01:07:32):
I don't think so.

Speaker 4 (01:07:33):
I don't know. I'll have problem didn't.

Speaker 1 (01:07:35):
I think they judge you off of a clip.

Speaker 3 (01:07:37):
Look at get it. I've been judged by millions.

Speaker 6 (01:07:39):
But listen what you If everybody this table knows that
the minute you put yourself out there saying something, you
are risking.

Speaker 3 (01:07:46):
I don't know the person like you. Wow.

Speaker 9 (01:07:49):
If I personally didn't like it, just wasn't buy your clips,
I'd be like this bitch is crazy.

Speaker 6 (01:07:53):
When I see you, I'd be like, I love this
bitch the crazy.

Speaker 1 (01:07:56):
Yeah, I like crazy the most as person on this micro.

Speaker 2 (01:08:03):
The last word man.

Speaker 1 (01:08:05):
All right, y'all raise Daniels, Carlin overus Jesus Christ. We're
gonna call this the Purple Party question for the audience.
Do you still identify as a political party member, whether
it's Democrat or Republican or are you more apt to
switch to become an independent? Because that's what both of
these motherfuckers said. And y'all know green parties don't help

(01:08:26):
the elections at all, So think thinks smart during the
next election, because Lord, as of right now, it looks
like Trump is gonna make it to where he could
serve another four years because fuck the Constitution, right Jesus. Anyways,
before we get out of here, I do want to
allow both my guests to drop where you can listen
to more of their crazy takes, because if you can
listen to me every week, you may as well listen

(01:08:47):
to these crazy mother part going to church with me?

Speaker 3 (01:08:49):
Baby, were going, We're going to the Lord, I'm not.

Speaker 1 (01:08:54):
All right, where can they listen to you?

Speaker 4 (01:08:55):
Carla?

Speaker 3 (01:08:56):
So what now? Podcast listen to podcasts?

Speaker 7 (01:08:58):
I'm also at carlile Man and anything that's to do
with podcasting production, virtual or in person.

Speaker 3 (01:09:03):
I did a launch Productions and.

Speaker 6 (01:09:05):
Ray ray Daniels presents just shoarch that Ray Danis presents
The God Show. Ray Dane presents That's the Bad No
g A g A w U d g A.

Speaker 4 (01:09:15):
It stands for ghost and Underdogs. Got it? No, no, no, no,
the God Show.

Speaker 6 (01:09:19):
But I did it for that reason though, because it's like,
you know, God is with me, Like that's why I came.
I love God to the God.

Speaker 3 (01:09:26):
Which God? What you mean what God, Trinity, Jesus Christ.

Speaker 2 (01:09:29):
Yes, God's political Party's Republicans.

Speaker 4 (01:09:34):
God is the Republicans.

Speaker 1 (01:09:35):
For God, God is.

Speaker 3 (01:09:37):
A Republican Trump not Trump Trump.

Speaker 2 (01:09:41):
God Trump is.

Speaker 4 (01:09:42):
Not a Republican.

Speaker 6 (01:09:42):
Trump. Trump is famous, He's entertainer. But God is absolutely
a Republican. Let me tell you something.

Speaker 4 (01:09:49):
You go to go to do.

Speaker 1 (01:09:50):
Wait wait now you're agreeing.

Speaker 3 (01:09:52):
You just say God was no, no, no, I did.

Speaker 7 (01:09:54):
But now now that I think about it, God is
a Republican because the thing when we say right now, republican,
we think it of Trumps a minute stray, and that's
not the same thing.

Speaker 3 (01:10:02):
Trump is not Republican. Trump is Trump.

Speaker 4 (01:10:03):
He's an entertainer.

Speaker 6 (01:10:04):
That just and by the way, he's smart because he
knew if he picked the red side, they're gonna follow
with him. By the way, that's what I love about them.
If the Democrats need to learn something, it's a famous saying.
Republicans get in line. Democrats have to fall in love.
And as long as we try to fall in love
with our candidate, we're not gonna have no another Obama
Michelle that we could.

Speaker 4 (01:10:22):
That's how probably we.

Speaker 6 (01:10:23):
Want to be in love with them.

Speaker 2 (01:10:24):
I don't give a fuck.

Speaker 6 (01:10:25):
As long as you're making policies that make it better
for us as Americans and make it that's my focus.
I don't give a fuck. If you grab, I don't care.

Speaker 3 (01:10:32):
Wait a minute, don't you don't care if he grab?

Speaker 6 (01:10:40):
He No, I said you want to.

Speaker 4 (01:10:45):
No.

Speaker 6 (01:10:45):
No, what I did was I went to the absolutely
most extreme thing we've ever heard of president say, which
is grinding by the pussy. And I'm saying, even if
that's what he's saying.

Speaker 3 (01:10:54):
But he did it, that's what he's doing.

Speaker 2 (01:10:55):
No, that's what he said, that's what he did.

Speaker 4 (01:10:57):
That's what he said.

Speaker 2 (01:10:58):
No, he did it. Who we do it to a woman?

Speaker 1 (01:11:01):
He graduate woman?

Speaker 4 (01:11:02):
I don't know that.

Speaker 2 (01:11:03):
What about Carroll?

Speaker 1 (01:11:06):
I want to go.

Speaker 4 (01:11:07):
Now, I got one.

Speaker 6 (01:11:08):
Now listen, now, Daniels, he also ain't paying.

Speaker 4 (01:11:12):
He paid, We paid. The fuck we're respectable.

Speaker 3 (01:11:16):
Let's just say we're not going to do that.

Speaker 4 (01:11:18):
They're respectable black.

Speaker 6 (01:11:20):
The black community would be much better if black men
started paying for pussy like white men's just walk We
walk around this manding. We want to show it up
to everybody. And meanwhile white men out here saying it's small,
but it's effected, and I got five hundred bucks for.

Speaker 4 (01:11:32):
You, and I'm gonna fuck you.

Speaker 1 (01:11:33):
Go home my wife those but here we go. I'm
making and men as a whole I'm having and men
as a whole already don't respect women enough. So yeah,
let's just all become sex workers. So then we're really
not respectable or seen in the eyes of men AnyWho.

Speaker 4 (01:11:48):
I respect sex workers.

Speaker 1 (01:11:49):
Okay, he's just said very respectable in terms of Stormy
Daniel Daniels not.

Speaker 4 (01:11:53):
I said he fucked and he paid her.

Speaker 2 (01:11:56):
He said the paying part was respect.

Speaker 4 (01:11:57):
I said, the paying part was respect. Thank you.

Speaker 6 (01:11:59):
J I shaid, the pain part respect. I respect the
man that pays as a man that has never But do.

Speaker 1 (01:12:05):
You respect the woman that receives the money.

Speaker 6 (01:12:07):
Man, Listen, if they I'm being honest with you to
do if women was out here paying for the dick
by then inch, I will be paid.

Speaker 4 (01:12:15):
I gotta be attracted.

Speaker 1 (01:12:16):
What but have to pay that much?

Speaker 4 (01:12:19):
She attacked you?

Speaker 3 (01:12:21):
You know that problem was that he used the money.

Speaker 2 (01:12:23):
That Okay, you know what.

Speaker 8 (01:12:24):
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