Ep. 27 | Cash, Culture & Cancelled CEO's feat. Ish & Barry - Selective Ignorance with Mandii B

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hey, guys, welcome to another episode of Selective Ignorance. However,

(00:03):
before we get to this week's episode, I want to
remind you guys to purchase my book No Holds Barred,
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Speaker 2 (00:25):
Again.

Speaker 1 (00:26):
That is No Holds Barred, a dual manifesto of sexual
exploration and power, written by yours truly and my co
host of the Decisions Decisions podcast, Weezy. Make sure y'all
get that. Now, let's get to this week's episode. This
is Mandy B. Welcome to Selective Ignorance, a production of
The Black Effect Podcast Network and Iart Radio.

Speaker 2 (00:45):
Yo Yo yo, Welcome.

Speaker 1 (00:46):
Back to Selective Ignorance with your girl, Mandy B, where
we promise you one thing and possibly deliver another. Today
we told you all this episode was going to be
about sports and politics. Let me put up the air
quotes sports and politics, because not really, it's not usual
who's winning sports talk, but the sideways messy adjacent takes
that only we can deliver here, and I'm joined by
some very special people to help me deliver those hot takes.

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First up, we are talking Cam Newton's girlfriend slash third
Baby Mama with welcoming of the seventh Eighth Night, tenth
child I don't remember, but she says that she wants
to raise a son into a man that she's never had.
Excuse me, women are out here openly making parenting transactional
like it's an NFT drop. Speaking of transactions, a tennis

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player straight up says that you need to put down
a thousand dollar deposit just to take on a date. Now,
y'all know my thoughts on this is a prostitution is
a dating? Where are we in society? I do not know.
We're going to get into it. And then on the
politics side, we're getting into culture wars. Trump is calling
the Smithsonian two woke, and I have my thoughts and
experiences from my stop at the African American Museum. Coming later,

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he's talking about scrubbing history like it's an Instagram feed.
And meanwhile, Black folks, don't ever let anyone tell you
that we don't have power. Target just lost billions by
cutting their DEI program. Corporations are folded, market share is shifting,
and we're here to break it all down.

Speaker 2 (02:11):
So buckle up.

Speaker 1 (02:15):
It's today's episode of selective Ignorance, where we'll see which
one of my guests are more ignorant than the other.
Because I'm joined today by, of course, my super producer,
who is back a King aka easy A with the
curls out.

Speaker 2 (02:33):
Listen they it's outside. I love it.

Speaker 1 (02:36):
I walked in like mind you. I was like n
w O and w as from one of them little groups.

Speaker 2 (02:44):
Listen.

Speaker 1 (02:44):
I was like New World Order?

Speaker 2 (02:46):
What is it?

Speaker 3 (02:46):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (02:46):
Niggas attitude? Okay? And then I'm joined y'all today. Ooh,
it's giving the battle of I don't know the ignorance.
I have two of my really close friends, male friends
who I disagree often with. Y'all may know this first guy,
he's been on here before. We have Ish who likes

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to just go by Ish and nothing else. Should I
say where y'all may know? Can I say where they
may know you from?

Speaker 2 (03:12):
Sir?

Speaker 1 (03:13):
I'm just going by the way you were introduced at
investment this weekend. It was just given Ish from Jersey
in the building, which is even more crazy, which is
even more crazy, y'all, we have ish one one hundredth
of the Joe Budden podcast.

Speaker 4 (03:31):
See what time it is. Let's see what time it is.

Speaker 1 (03:36):
You know, it's crazy. No, I have my coffee and
this is like pire espresso. And then I am joined
by Barry, my good friend Barry, who is not normally
on the mic, however sometimes he is. He has listened
and critiqued everything I've done for about the last eight years.
And so somehow we're in the same city and I said,

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you want to come join us on the mic, because
if it's two people I can possibly have really good
dialogue with it's the two of these guys. So excited.
As you guys have heard, Jason is not with us today.
He is enjoying family time. So I love how I could, like,
you know, kind of still always have one of my
super producers.

Speaker 5 (04:18):
With barbecue him and none.

Speaker 1 (04:23):
No, not so so. Jason is shared a couple of
weeks ago how like he's Eskimo Sisters with a lot
of his friends and he just be inviting them to
the barbecues and everybody to kind of slept with each
other and it's okay. No, he's Eskimo Bromo Brothers like
it's it's tricky. It's tricky, and everybody's coming and everyone

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apparently and everyone like behaves themselves. I love that for him.
I love that for him. For the ketchup though, y'all
are both in Atlanta for and Best Fast, and so
I'm excited to talk to both of y'all's experience with it,
your time with it, go into it. I love Troy
Mberschad Eyol, everything they do. I was a part of

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it last year. I do like them. Don't make the face.

Speaker 2 (05:09):
I like them.

Speaker 1 (05:09):
I really like them a lot as friends. I like
what they're doing the Internet, and people constantly have thoughts
to say about them.

Speaker 2 (05:18):
Now hold on.

Speaker 1 (05:19):
The one thing I don't like that they doing right
now is beeping with all these niggas. That is one thing.
But I do like what their platform stands for. I
do love what they're doing. I do hate, though that
invest Fest is kind of nicknamed aka Scamfest, and so
I want to know y'all's thoughts on why people call

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it that, your thoughts on attending Barry, and then your
thoughts on being on stage with Tonight's conversations where we starting,
Where we starting. Do you believe it's a scam? Let's
start off.

Speaker 4 (05:53):
I do not believe it's a scam at the EYO
level invest best level.

Speaker 1 (05:57):
Agree do.

Speaker 4 (05:58):
I think people that may be there are there for scamming,
learning how to do the scam, trying to possibly but you.

Speaker 1 (06:03):
Believe Wait, people going there are there to learn how
to scam.

Speaker 4 (06:06):
Yeah, because everybody's trying to get to the money quick. Yes, okay,
And then with anything you try to get to the
money quick, no matter what it is. I know they
talked a lot about I had this time to stuff
thout the with Ghana this time. And there's people that
don't want to do the true homework their favorite statement,
do your own work. People want people want to skip
the step. And when you skip the step, there's no

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telling what you're gonna do, how you're gonna do, what's
your cause you're gonna take, And so then you're really
not You shouldn't even be there, No, honestly, because it's
there to learn. Is there? The network? Is there?

Speaker 1 (06:36):
The gay Yeah?

Speaker 4 (06:38):
If you think you just don't find a million dollars
on the floor.

Speaker 1 (06:40):
I think that's what people think when they they say
I'm gonna pay my little one fifty for the ticket
and I'm gonna leave in best fast as a millionaire.
And it's like, what what go ahead?

Speaker 2 (06:53):
One?

Speaker 6 (06:54):
I think is insulting, right, I think it's insulting that
we call it scam fast. And the bad part is
the black people are calling it Scamfest. Shout out to
their whole crew. They put twenty five thousand people in that.

Speaker 2 (07:08):
Building and it looked that was crazy. It was it was.

Speaker 6 (07:12):
I went I think I went through two three years now.
This is the most people they've ever had. That ship
was packed, bro and wall to wall, packed all the
way to the back.

Speaker 2 (07:23):
That shit looked like a sea if people.

Speaker 6 (07:26):
I've recently, well this was my first year speaking, but
outside of that, I spoke to them like individually, and
I just think that what they've done over in less
than a.

Speaker 2 (07:36):
Decade has changed culture.

Speaker 1 (07:39):
Absolutely.

Speaker 6 (07:40):
You can't deny what these guys have done. Prior to
their movement, Black people at large were not really concerned
with investing like that, like people who looked at stock
market stuff like white shit. They bought the stock market
to our living rooms, young black people, that we cannot
do a far with that resonate with us all of

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that stuff and made other black people from inner city
see that this shit is possible.

Speaker 2 (08:06):
Yeah, you get what I'm saying.

Speaker 6 (08:07):
Like, literally, I speak to some of these guys on
a daily, well weekly basis, and these guys are making
millions and millions of dollars legitimately, and that's something that
we've never seen outside of sports or entertainment or drugs.

Speaker 2 (08:20):
But yes, I mean illegally, no no, no, no, legally
sports and entertainment.

Speaker 6 (08:25):
There are some people that make money, but we don't
see them in our faces. You get what I'm saying, Like,
people didn't know who Robert Smith was prior to him
paying for the what was it more house graduation or
commencement he paid everybody Like people didn't know who a
bunch of these black billionaires were or that they even existed.
So Rashad and them being twenty something, well thirty something

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year old, forty year old men from New York City
inner cities and stuff like that, you can't knock what
they've done in maybe seven eight years.

Speaker 1 (08:53):
It's literally what I said. I relate what people have
to say about him best fest to how we saw
our community tear down essence, how we did roots picnic,
how we do all these things, and it's just like, damn,
y'all really don't want to see us excel. Our own
community almost hates when someone actually gets too successful or

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it gets too big for their breeches, or it steps
out the hood or doesn't. And it's just like what,
I don't know. It's frustrating because, like I say, if
we don't support the programs and things that we're creating
for our community, you think the white people are gonna
support it. You think those checks and dollars gonna keep
coming in to allow us to actually have our own shit.

Speaker 2 (09:34):
No, people are rooting for you while you're the underdog.

Speaker 6 (09:37):
And just watch the documentary on the Kansas City Chiefs,
and it was crazy how they said when the Chiefs
were making their initial runs, people were rooting them on
like crazy, like yo, Patrick Mahomes, black quarterback, let's get it.
When they started winning and winning and winning, People's like, yo,
these motherfuckers win too much. I want them to lose.

Speaker 4 (09:57):
Yo.

Speaker 2 (09:57):
His baby mother white, like they started just chilling.

Speaker 3 (10:01):
It was.

Speaker 1 (10:03):
Just, you know, it's crazy. I've always experienced that. And
this is not a sports pop but I love the
analogy here. It's I've always experienced that as a Duke fan,
like when Duke was constantly winning and things like that.
People hate the Patriots to save the Patriots, the Lakers,
like Boston, people hate winners. And it's so weird that
you want to root for people while they're the underdogs,

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while they quote unquote suck, and then as soon as
like they advance, it's like, oh, yeah, nah, fuck that
I don't I don't want to support you anymore.

Speaker 2 (10:32):
Underdog resonates with the masses.

Speaker 1 (10:34):
Because every a lot of people are mediocre and suck average. No, no, no,
they are. They don't want to admit to being mediocre.
They don't want to admit to being average. And when
someone when that's the problem too. With Rashad and Troy,
right when they had the story of being like teachers,
they were relatable because they were middle class people, just
you know, doing this podcast and kind of navigating now

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that they they up there that they were in a
little silk.

Speaker 6 (11:02):
Walking around with satin sad outfits on going to gan
like you gotta.

Speaker 4 (11:07):
I think they did tend like o't fait changes the
whole time.

Speaker 2 (11:10):
I want houses and Ghan you want to push back
on what.

Speaker 4 (11:14):
I just want to push back on a little bit
because the one thing, and we kind of talked about
this separately, people can still be getting it and make
and stumble from time to time and make mistakes. So
the only thing, and it's a small thing. I support them,
brothers want them to win like Easter Ray, but you
can stumble and get called out on stumbling. And the

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answer to stumbling can't be you're jealous, and oh yeah,
you can't be every time. Sometimes you just gotta hey,
it happens. I'm human, move okay.

Speaker 1 (11:46):
So so basically, and I think even when when Rashad went,
like when he got called in when everyone's questioning why
he's beefing with all these guys that at one point
we're being platformed by his own platform. The conversation was,
they're just jealous they have less money than me. And
I think a lot of people do lean into that.
I mean literally here, when I have Ray Daniels on

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the show, his immediate thing was like, Yo, I'm not
talking to nobody that make less money than me. And
it's just like, at a point, like there has to
be a response to what the problem is now for me,
I will say that's the only thing that sucks, right,
Ray said that, oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah.

Speaker 2 (12:28):
Ray.

Speaker 1 (12:28):
Well, when he's wrong, he'll just be like, yeah, well fuck,
can I make more money than you? And I think
that as black people, if we're excelling, if we're really
speaking to the community, that can't just be like the
shutout when you're getting caught out on something. Now, my
only thing that I think they did wrong quote unquote
is maybe not vet all the people they've platformed in

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the beginning. I just think they liked other black people
that seemed to be out here doing they think And
to me, I think that they did platform a lot
of scammers. They platform niggas that I think made it
seem like, yo, let me teach you how to do this.
They never did it like the selling of courses. The
niggas who just know how to form sentences well enough.

Speaker 6 (13:07):
To that's not fair because out of let's say, let's
hype it. I don't know their.

Speaker 2 (13:17):
Numbers, but they've done a lot of episodes, now you
know what I'm saying.

Speaker 6 (13:20):
Let's just say they introduced two hundred business people to
the world. Yes, if four of them or five of
them have been doing some illegal shit.

Speaker 2 (13:30):
That's not fair.

Speaker 6 (13:31):
Valid, valid, you get what I'm saying, Like, that's not fair.
If we've showcased one hundred or two hundred people that
are legitimate, that are entrepreneurial, that are out here moving
and shaking and making shit happen, and these seven or
eight people are bad apples, that's not fair to now
put us this moniker of scamfest.

Speaker 2 (13:52):
I think that's fucked up.

Speaker 1 (13:53):
No no, no, no, no, no, no no no, I agree
with that. I think the scam fest is coming from again, the.

Speaker 2 (13:58):
People who can't get in the club.

Speaker 4 (13:59):
Yeah, you know what I mean.

Speaker 1 (14:00):
I'm just talking about the people that they're now going
toe to toe. Let's be very clear too, And this
is where I want to draw the parallels. What I
hate about our community. It reminds me of rap. No
one really gets like everyone gets excited about beef. It's
almost like we talk about how black people kill killing
black people. Our community just loves speak entertainment of us

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beefing with each other. You don't see the white people
doing it. The black pods do it, the black rappers
do it, and now black investors doing it.

Speaker 2 (14:33):
What is it be cool?

Speaker 5 (14:34):
If we could keep the competitive spirit, you know, to
uplift Everybody say, hey, we're all trying to in the
name of upliftment.

Speaker 7 (14:41):
But the beef start when it gets personal.

Speaker 6 (14:45):
I spoke, I spoke to I spoke the trap, I
spoke to En, I spoke to Shoddy, And what I
told them was the disappointment is I'm disappointed in y'all.
I said, Dog, you would never see war and Buffett
beefing with Jeff.

Speaker 2 (15:01):
Mark Cuban like publicly publicly this nigga's guts. I might
shut his deals down.

Speaker 6 (15:08):
I might stop his daughter from getting in Stanford like
they might be on some petty ship.

Speaker 2 (15:12):
We will never Twitter know about it publicly. They're not
making YouTube recaps.

Speaker 5 (15:18):
You stop somebody from going to Stanford. I mean that
might have to be on the snow, But no, bro,
we would never know. And so my thing is it's
jay Z's fault. Wow, when he put up the Summer
Jam screen everybody from that point that changed how we
have discourse.

Speaker 2 (15:35):
No no, no.

Speaker 1 (15:36):
If you go back even before further back from that,
you could go to the source awards.

Speaker 2 (15:42):
How old are you go ahead and bring it up.

Speaker 1 (15:44):
When the horse and carriages.

Speaker 6 (15:45):
What they were doing, Chrs Won and mc shan like,
it's a bunch of ship that was going on, Like
who ja was beefing with Manning. What I'm saying is this, like, Yo,
when you got hundreds of millions of dollars worth of
potential investors looking at you, do a microscope number one,
they already don't want to give us any money. I
don't and they don't want you to gain any leverage.

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And then now to publicly start going through this bullshit.
It's like, Yo, I told you these niggas gonna nig
give them a minute.

Speaker 2 (16:14):
They hate that and it's discussing.

Speaker 6 (16:17):
So I expressed that to them, like yo, dog, that
shit is just horrible.

Speaker 2 (16:22):
But with regards to the scanfest thing, I had a point.

Speaker 6 (16:26):
I didn't want to let go what happens is and
I've been going to seminars literally for over twenty years.
Like I bought my first house at O three, you
get what I'm saying. And I learned all of that shit, yep,
at a seminar in like two thousand and one. So
I went to the seminar n O one. I didn't
buy my first house until O three because you gotta
do the one you gotta do.

Speaker 1 (16:45):
You gotta get, you gotta gain information and knowledge.

Speaker 6 (16:47):
When you see these young dudes on the internet with
Lamborghinis behind them, in seven thousand square foot houses and
all of this stuff.

Speaker 2 (16:55):
We see the result.

Speaker 1 (16:57):
You don't see the work.

Speaker 6 (16:57):
We don't see the work. When you see a mother
fuck with an eight pack, we don't see the countless
hours that they put in the not drakes.

Speaker 1 (17:05):
Wow, I'm just saying not all eight packs are made equal.

Speaker 6 (17:08):
What I'm saying right, we don't see the countless hours
that they put in the gym. You get what I'm saying.
So we just jump online, Yo, these things are possible.
You can make x y z amount of money in
real estate and we think that we're gonna buy a
house and we're gonna be a millionaire tomorrow, and without reading,
without doing any of the other prep work.

Speaker 2 (17:28):
It doesn't happen in any business.

Speaker 1 (17:30):
Oh, I was about to say, I say that for
people that want to do podcasting, same thing, Like bruh,
they'd be like, how long it took you to make money? Bro? Like,
if you have to get into first off, building your audience,
you gotta show up weekly.

Speaker 2 (17:43):
You gotta have something.

Speaker 1 (17:44):
To say, and then you also have to build your
relationships with a Look, goddamn thing.

Speaker 6 (17:48):
We see it in hip hop in the podcasting space.
Joe's been successful, Yeah, and they like, oh, if he
could do it, Oh that nigga could do it. Oh,
I know I could do it. Give me a mic,
and so you see every single rapper getting a mic.

Speaker 2 (18:04):
No, not at all. I don't do that.

Speaker 6 (18:08):
But no, I'm just saying, like any person thinks that, Yo,
he could do it. I was more successful in hip
hop than he was. So I know that my fan
base is now going to transcend and come over here
to podcasting and that's not true. And that's not gonna happen,
and that's not true. And so we see that in business.

Speaker 2 (18:24):
We see it. I'm smarter than him. You get what
I'm saying, Oh if he could do it, I know
I could do it. What is it?

Speaker 1 (18:29):
Comparison is the thief of joy period.

Speaker 4 (18:32):
And let me get one testimony for them. I did
the University of Uyol University during the COVID you know, yeah,
everybody was at home doing something. I can honestly say
my credit score went from the six hundreds to the
eight hundreds and it was from them and someone who's
also been This is my second year in the room.

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All up.

Speaker 2 (18:53):
It's a different energy.

Speaker 1 (18:54):
It is it is.

Speaker 4 (18:55):
It is people inspiring young no old men, women, notes, hints, cards, sharing,
what's your I g how can I get it is?
Let's from the outside.

Speaker 1 (19:08):
You just have the people that didn't go to Essence
Fest had nothing but bad things to say about Essence Fest.
You weren't there. You weren't there and best fest. Bro,
go get your ticket next year. Get your ticket. This
is not an ad, but yeah, make sure y'all go there.
Uh it should be talking real estate maybe next year
and not financial.

Speaker 2 (19:28):
Yo, I want you to but I asked me to
go on. Okay, I'm like, are you crazy?

Speaker 1 (19:34):
Not you was scared? Not you was care I need
you to get growth, some ball y'all say what y'all want.

Speaker 6 (19:43):
That's not my bag. But no, he asked me, and
I'm like, Yo, you gotta I'm not fucking with that.

Speaker 1 (19:47):
Okay, you have thoughts. And so we have a segment
on here called double down or take it Back? And
I have a clip I want to share. Can you
not la? I can't hear you laugh? Clip it's not
that messy. So the last time is joined me on
Selective Ignorance, we talked about financial literacy and a lot

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of people had something to say about a take, and
so I want to bring up where it was brought
back up on your pod and I'm just gonna play
a quick little forty seconds here, okay, to ask.

Speaker 4 (20:21):
You a controversial question me.

Speaker 8 (20:24):
Yeah, sure, I don't because Flip just said that pro
black ship, which I do believe that you are. Yeah,
but there's a clip going around of you saying that
you didn't believe that black people should get preparations.

Speaker 4 (20:38):
There you go, here you go read.

Speaker 6 (20:42):
It's the clip Selective Ignorance put out seventy seven times.

Speaker 2 (20:46):
They just they just refrust. Listen to what they said. Well,
if they get the money, what they're wasted, you can
cut it addressing. Hello, here's what you said. Address I'm good.

Speaker 4 (21:03):
What about do you believe blackness reparations?

Speaker 2 (21:07):
No?

Speaker 6 (21:07):
I think black people should get equity, and I think
the two are different.

Speaker 2 (21:10):
I think that.

Speaker 1 (21:13):
We get not everyone, not everyone, not everyone listens to
the JBIB.

Speaker 6 (21:20):
I don't think that if we get reparations, it's going
we're gonna fear any better me personally, I don't think that.

Speaker 1 (21:27):
Okay, even though you talked over your whole take, but
go ahead, do you, with all of the backlash with
maybe people sharing or giving you more information on their
thoughts that black people do need reparations, do you stand
on the fact that black people don't need reparations or
do you take it back with any further information that

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you've learned since this clip went.

Speaker 6 (21:50):
I'll say this, I think that sometimes when we listen,
we listen immediately just to respond, and I think I
might have did a poor job in how I articulated
my thoughts because I know sometimes the shit is off
the cuff, like now, I think that, all right, let

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me give you Amanda Sills just did this thing, ye.

Speaker 2 (22:16):
And yeah, shout to her, she bodied it.

Speaker 6 (22:19):
I think that in watching that, if I came off
how they came off, then I apologize wholeheartedly to everybody
in our community.

Speaker 1 (22:29):
If you came off like conservatives.

Speaker 2 (22:31):
Like that wasn't my intent.

Speaker 4 (22:34):
Do you feel like you've ever come off cross like that.

Speaker 2 (22:37):
It's possible.

Speaker 6 (22:38):
We're human like and again, pardon me, when you put
these mics in our faces and you're asking us questions
off the cuff.

Speaker 2 (22:44):
Everybody got their days.

Speaker 6 (22:46):
So it's days that I could convey my thoughts and
the other days I might.

Speaker 2 (22:51):
Be, you know, all over the place a little bit.

Speaker 6 (22:54):
I think that if I sounded like them, or if
I came off like them, that's definitely not my intent.
Like I wanted to reach through the computer and smack
some of them, right, that that wasn't my intent. Anybody
that knows me knows that I'm for us, one hundred
percent for us, like all day, every day.

Speaker 1 (23:14):
But you don't want black people to get free money.

Speaker 6 (23:17):
I think that the premise behind the money, not the
behind the money. I think that my personal opinion is
I want society to get get out of our.

Speaker 2 (23:30):
Way and stop trying to hold us back, right.

Speaker 6 (23:32):
And I think that if they give you a check,
that still does not stop the systemic stuff that is
taking place.

Speaker 2 (23:37):
So I think that that it's not a cure.

Speaker 8 (23:39):
Roll.

Speaker 6 (23:40):
I don't think that it's a cure all Like just
throwing money at a problem doesn't solve the problem.

Speaker 1 (23:45):
So I don't think reparations is meant to be a
cure all. When I when I even when I even
look at something that I can compare it to it
would be what people normally question regarding civil suits around
on sexual assault. Right, you're not curing You're not curing
the trauma that's been endured by being sexually assaulted when

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you get a payment or settlement. But it's it's something
that makes the victim feel like justice was served or
that their restitution for what they went through. And so
reparations I think isn't a cure all for us to
be elevated into society, to even be comparable to white people.

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But I think how people view it as our ancestors,
we as a people went through this, We should be
given this as a compensation for what we endure.

Speaker 6 (24:38):
I'm not I'm not against that necessarily. I just think that,
in my opinion, it won't solve anything. I just don't
think that it would solve anything.

Speaker 1 (24:49):
Do you think money solves anything?

Speaker 2 (24:50):
While we're here, those can solve some things.

Speaker 1 (24:53):
So giving our community money you think solves nothing?

Speaker 6 (24:59):
Get I'm sorry, pardon me if you give. Let's just
come up with a dollar amount. Okay, sure, give every black.

Speaker 1 (25:08):
So does that mean I get fifty? Maybe not?

Speaker 2 (25:18):
My daddy Jamaican, you.

Speaker 4 (25:21):
Got a little more't do me?

Speaker 3 (25:25):
So?

Speaker 6 (25:26):
But can we give every black person that can prove
that we are descending some slavery one hundred thousand dollars,
It still does not stop the powers that be from
shutting the doors in our face. Because if that is
the if that is the problem that we identify as
the problem, then I think we need to work to
solve that problem.

Speaker 2 (25:45):
And I think money does not solve that problem.

Speaker 6 (25:47):
I've had money for a little while, and and and again,
I'm high yellow green, yo, and I'm passable by some
people's standards that the door gets shut in my face
by the bank manager that makes one hundred and thirty
thousand dollars a year walking around with the chess spoke
out you going there with a check that half of
his salary.

Speaker 2 (26:05):
Then niggas put an extended hold on your check for
no fucking reason.

Speaker 4 (26:09):
But that doesn't not to cut you off. But that
doesn't give you a reason not to want that. Because
somebody is gonna for some it's gonna change their lives.
And I heard your first and I wasn't disrespected, but
when I heard it, and I give you full grace
on what you meant the same what you said, well, like.

Speaker 1 (26:25):
Bringing grace to the to the picnic.

Speaker 4 (26:26):
But I know you just said you made it sound
like it was a choice about giving that feeling you
have when you give a homeless person money. Almost everybody
has that pause or say what they're.

Speaker 2 (26:38):
Gonna get with it, what they're gonna use it on drugs?

Speaker 4 (26:40):
What they got? And it hit me like, that's not
what it is gotch taking.

Speaker 6 (26:48):
But again, if I if I sounded like my apologies
to us as a community and as as a people,
that that's not really my intent. My mintent is again
a deeper problem them where you start talking about, yo,
let's fix the stuff that holds us back as opposed
to just get draw money out of the problem.

Speaker 5 (27:07):
I don't think that people listen I comprehension, and I
think you and I love that your compassionate to the responses.
But I think that's fake outrage for those people because
they're not listening.

Speaker 7 (27:19):
You clearly said I don't want reparations.

Speaker 4 (27:23):
I want I want.

Speaker 7 (27:25):
You didn't stop there, you said I want equity.

Speaker 5 (27:27):
Why do people just lean into the They stopped, They
put a full stop after you said the reparation and
didn't go into equity because at that point you say, oh,
for those who don't know, let me look up what
equity is and see what the hell he's talking about.
I'm just saying, if that, if that, if that's the
lose clues of the situation. It's like you didn't stop
and say, oh, I don't want my people to have
that reparation because they're gonna be irresponsible with it.

Speaker 7 (27:50):
You said, I want I don't want.

Speaker 8 (27:54):
Legs.

Speaker 5 (27:54):
But but but that's we all have wants to I didn't.
I will say this, I will say this and the
next Thanksgiving when we in our own collective families and
what bring that up? Just say, watch what the older
for a future episode, Well, it's probably be out with

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your mom, even.

Speaker 7 (28:16):
The perspective she has.

Speaker 5 (28:17):
Yeah, listen to what they the wise counsel and how
they feel about us collectively getting some money.

Speaker 4 (28:24):
I just don't. And it's not gonna make it a
case for a ore and it should be.

Speaker 6 (28:29):
An and you want both reparations and and equality and freedom,
but we got to ask some measures to manage that.
If you got and this is what the white people
are scared of, if you fuck the ore, if you
gave us the and they know that we are gonna
go ape ship, look at all the adversity that we've

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been through, and look at the strides and the measures
that we've overcome and to get where we are. If
they remove the roadblocks, were gonna own the road. You
get what I'm saying, And so reparations would well.

Speaker 1 (29:03):
And then we see when we do own things like
Black Wall Street and what happened in in Tulsa and
even any of our we see right now that they're
literally redlining, like like all right, now, come on, be
a professional, one job. Put the goddamn phone on D

(29:23):
n D now AnyWho, let's get down for some ignorance.
Let's let's get into some fun topics. Let's have fun
with this, because one thing that me and Ish disagree
on a lot is dating dynamics and women and men.
And this isn't gonna be gender wars, This isn't gonna
be an old patriarchy. This I'm gonna speak loud and proud. Well,

(29:50):
let's let's go into quote unquote sports. Do we want
to lean into tennis first? Or Cam Newton's baby Mama?
What we getting into first? Okay, well, we're gonna get
to the baby mama dramma?

Speaker 2 (30:06):
All right?

Speaker 1 (30:08):
Uh so Jazzi, who is currently pregnant with her second child,
Night Child for Cam Newt and she's the third baby
mother with no ring. She recently had a quote unquote
transparency moment. She posted this to her Instagram and said,
if God gave me a son, I'd be so nervous

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because I feel like I subconsciously raise him to be
a man I can only dream of but never experienced.
And that's traumatic. Now, I don't damn your face.

Speaker 4 (30:44):
Oh, so what doesn't she want? She doesn't want her
time to be rich. She doesn't want them to be
a college graduate. She doesn't want to be a NFL star,
doesn't want to be a media star, doesn't want to
be known worldwide.

Speaker 1 (30:55):
So I think that's I think that's the thing. When
we talk about what we actually want in partnership. We
never sit here and say we want this powerful, famous man.
We want that, Like I think as women now, we
really would like partners that have emotional intelligence, partners that

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don't do not suck your teeth. I think that we
could have these ideas that we want a certain lifestyle.
Right in our mind, cool an athlete looks like something
that we would love to date. We would love that
that thing in our mind, right, But when we really
actually sit down for with what we want, it's a
lot of things that we're not getting. It's the person

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that's there.

Speaker 2 (31:38):
She said.

Speaker 1 (31:39):
In her last she said right after her first baby
that she went through postpartum and felt like she was
a single mother not getting any help. And so I
think that motherhood is something that women want. Partnership is
something that women want. But I don't think we genuinely
sit down and talk about how we want our partners
to show up. And so when we get the thing
that we think we want, it's not what we want

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at all. Here, I don't like both of y'all looking
at each other like this.

Speaker 4 (32:02):
I wish she had said those words out loud instead
of doing a reverse shot at anybody.

Speaker 1 (32:08):
Oh, this is a reverse shot at camp specifically.

Speaker 2 (32:10):
And see I disagree. I stand on the opposite side.

Speaker 1 (32:12):
You don't think this is a shot. She wants to
raise the sun as a man that she's never experienced.

Speaker 6 (32:17):
I think that's honesty. I don't think it's a shot.
I think that and let me jump Well, I don't
know who said it. This, this, this is what we
we have, not brought up yet, right, he goes to
all of Cam's accolades, right and society, And now I'm

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gonna crack your head because in society, we measure a
man by how much success and how much money he attains.
So we say, yo, this is a good man based
on this, right, and which are all surface level physical things,
material things. You can't say, yo, I want a man

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to be there when I'm going through all of these
things emotionally and spiritually and mentally. But nigga, you still
got to go make the millions because there's going to
be a disconnect there because the niggas that's out making
millions might not have time to be at home when
you're going through it at three in the morning. Okay, Right,
So I think her thing was honest. I think yo,

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dog I might have in no disrespect to Cam at all.
I might have a seven and a half in camp,
but the things that he's lacking in I would like
for my son to be proficient in. And I don't
think that's a shot at him. We all have girlfriends,
we all have husband's wives, whatever the case may be.
Your husband and your wife are lacking some things, and
you would want for your offspring to be proficient in

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those things.

Speaker 2 (33:45):
I don't think that that's a shot.

Speaker 4 (33:47):
I think because even with your example, that would mean
that the seven and a half, because she said, if
you're giving them a seven and a half, she said
things that she's there never experienced. Yes, So do you
think just that two and a half made will make
all the difference? Because that's what I said. I wish
you would have called him out because anything that you
obviously don't know him, whatever, got into a seven and

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a half, you that wasn't enough.

Speaker 1 (34:13):
She also said it's traumatic. I would like to know
what things she's saying that she's never experienced from anybody.
It's not just Cam she's saying. I also think that
it's that's a lot of pressure to put on whatever
son you're about to birth.

Speaker 7 (34:25):
Do you think that you don't think so?

Speaker 2 (34:26):
I don't. I think I think that.

Speaker 6 (34:31):
Let's say I don't know her, but let's say hypothetically
she's dated one type of man. A lot of women
and men we have a type like, and our type
is where we go consistently, where we go, the ship fails,
but we go right back there.

Speaker 1 (34:45):
So YO, shut up that it's not about me listen.
I think all my niggas was different.

Speaker 7 (34:54):
Different people think that she learned CAM enough.

Speaker 5 (34:59):
What did she see cam that, you know, prior to
whatever discourse they have it now that changed.

Speaker 2 (35:05):
To be fair a lot.

Speaker 1 (35:06):
But to be fair, I think that that's the thing,
like he said, in society, we are attracted to the
wealthy man, the powerful man, the famous man. Respect but
literally I think that's a patriarchal thing, right. We do
essentially believe we want a provider. That's what I think
most women lean towards, especially if they want to lean.

Speaker 2 (35:25):
Into the soft life.

Speaker 1 (35:27):
The soft life of what a woman looks like.

Speaker 4 (35:29):
Say that part though, so you know.

Speaker 1 (35:30):
That, But I think that that's the frustration. You finally
get that, and you do you want everything about this
man that he's not capable of showing.

Speaker 6 (35:41):
That the post office worker. I did a show and
I talked about professions that by and large are looked
at as successful and today they are not enough. If
you're a college professor and you make one hundred and
fifty k, one hundred and seventy K, people look at
you like Nick, if you don't get your ass out
of here.

Speaker 4 (36:01):
That's the East Coast.

Speaker 2 (36:02):
I was about to say, I think that's what Internet takes.

Speaker 6 (36:07):
That's not that's not true when you sit down and
start discussing what realism looks like to these women.

Speaker 2 (36:14):
On the panel yesterday, women.

Speaker 6 (36:16):
Talked about how they are not willing to split fifty
to fifty, They not willing to pay a bill, They
not willing to do these things. My nigga, If you
make one hundred and fifty thousand dollars in most major
cities in the United States in all the bills.

Speaker 1 (36:28):
No, but you're also like the idea that women want
men that make that much money, especially black men, they're not.

Speaker 2 (36:35):
That's not numbers.

Speaker 1 (36:36):
It's not reality.

Speaker 2 (36:37):
It's not reality at one fifty oh way. And then
they want them to be synonymous.

Speaker 6 (36:42):
With sense of humor, with personality, fashionable, over sixty two,
all of these things, my nigga, the numbers are not
in your favor. And what I'm saying is when you
get the dude that has all of the surface ship,
guess what, that nigga might not be funny, his personality
might not be it. You might can't take him to
your corporate Christmas party and the cookout with your hood cousins.

Speaker 2 (37:06):
They not gonna mess.

Speaker 6 (37:07):
So what I'm telling you is the things that y'all say,
y'all are looking for right on the surface level.

Speaker 2 (37:13):
When you get them, now you're stuck and you say,
you know what, it's not enough. It's not enough.

Speaker 4 (37:21):
We all know, we've all been your cousin, bitch yourself.
The good guys can finish last. We all know that
as a fact. And it's just another category of stuff.
It's just inconsistency. There's somebody for everybody there. But the
thing we've heard most last five years at least, not
saying this universal get the money, where's the bag?

Speaker 2 (37:42):
I do think our community.

Speaker 1 (37:44):
I do think that there needs to be a healthier
relationship with mothers and sons though, because you either hate
the nigga you chose to make the baby with, so
then there's resentment to the child, or you literally create
a very strange relationship with this son because you want
to make him the man that you can't go out
and find, that you can't go out and date. And

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that's where we have like the little blurred lines with
those types of relationships that I see, and it's unhealthy.
It's it's me, it's what we're saying with what's the
what's the what's the mom right now? Not wanting her
football son to date nobody, the Jalen or whatever his
name is.

Speaker 2 (38:22):
I don't. I don't think she wants, you know, not
to date people.

Speaker 6 (38:25):
I think she wants to protect him from the huchi
mama bitches that's out here.

Speaker 2 (38:31):
What you're talking about, yo, dog.

Speaker 6 (38:33):
We got forty year old women trying to attract twenty
two to twenty three year old stars that they know
gonna get a max contract and make three hundred they
call him auntie.

Speaker 1 (38:42):
Yeah, but I think that that's the problem too as
a man, when you reach a certain level of money,
a certain income, a certain status, the idea that you
think everybody only wants you for that, when oftentimes you
lead with that too. It's just like, bro, let me.

Speaker 6 (38:54):
There's women that can like you for other things. Take
part the part where they leave with it, yes, because
everybody does it. Do that, and especially some of these athletes.
They don't have to do that because my name is
my name. Chad Ocho Sinko says, fam I don't have
to show no money. I'm ridding around in the priests.
They know I'm rich already. Nowadays, girls will pull out
their phone when you tell what you're doing with your contract.

(39:15):
So I don't have to lead with money that my
profession speaks for itself. So we're not going to conflate
the two issues fam nowadays, if you look at dialogue,
dialogue is telling men you gotta come with the bag
first were talking about.

Speaker 1 (39:29):
But also men don't know how to speak.

Speaker 2 (39:32):
That is.

Speaker 1 (39:34):
If we think about the men that literally just have
to show up. No, there are men that because of
who they are, because of their name, because because of
because of their career, they now feel the need to
not have to actually speak. And so dialogue tell me.

Speaker 4 (39:49):
What does that even mean?

Speaker 6 (39:51):
These pretty women that just got a fat ass in
a pretty face, they don't know how to speak.

Speaker 4 (39:54):
Neither don't do that.

Speaker 2 (39:58):
It's no, it's both okay.

Speaker 6 (39:59):
They never had to work on their social skills because
I've been a star athlete since I was his sixties.

Speaker 1 (40:04):
They was getting their homework done for them women constantly,
one of them teachers didn't hold them accountable.

Speaker 2 (40:09):
So they go into.

Speaker 1 (40:10):
Dating with those same things. I don't have to do anything,
I don't have to show up, I don't to work
on myself all I gotta do is this one thing,
make money and be a star. So all of the
other skills that they should have been learning to adapt
in other parts of their life, they've never felt the
need to.

Speaker 2 (40:24):
I agree with that. But but that's not a man thing.
That's a people thing. It's a people think.

Speaker 6 (40:29):
A lot of these rich people they socially awkward because
they have been well, that's because everyone.

Speaker 1 (40:35):
There's a lot of people undiagnosed autism, truth.

Speaker 6 (40:37):
The mathematicians, the engineers, they be socially undiagnosed.

Speaker 4 (40:40):
I'm telling somebody is older than you see. Women who
used to just walk in the door. They hitting their forties.
They don't even know how to act. Because people are
And I'm not against it anything. This is what I
just don't know what it is to be relationship. And

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I don't know him.

Speaker 2 (41:03):
I know, and we don't know.

Speaker 1 (41:05):
He brings this conversation up.

Speaker 2 (41:07):
It's an echo in the room. I don't know him.

Speaker 6 (41:09):
When the women get to be thirty eight, thirty nine
years old, the things that once matter to them are
less important facts.

Speaker 7 (41:15):
When gets to be thirty eight or thirty nine years old.

Speaker 2 (41:18):
Oh this is Kevin said, This is the Kevin Samuels.
That's what I'm only saying.

Speaker 1 (41:25):
It's to Kevin Samuels because in conversations that we've had,
when they get to thirty eight, thirty nine years old,
quote unquote dot dot dot, it's that women are declining.
It's that they can't ask for things. It's that they
waited too long to show up. Is this and now
they're they're behind, And it's just like.

Speaker 2 (41:39):
I don't even think. I just think that.

Speaker 6 (41:41):
Then back to the point with cam full circle, I
think that when you are in your twenties, when you're
in your thirties early thirties, you know you have time, right,
so you think that.

Speaker 1 (41:52):
Man, we all got time.

Speaker 2 (41:53):
Even in Charming, it's.

Speaker 6 (41:54):
Still out there for me, right, He's still there, so
I have time to get him. And when you start
to get into your your your latter thirties, early forties, one,
you realize Prince Charming may not be coming for me.
And then number two, the things that I wanted in
Prince Charming no longer as important as they once were.

Speaker 2 (42:13):
Okay, And so to her point, Sam.

Speaker 6 (42:17):
I have this man, the superstar, all of these accolades,
and I don't know him from a from a from
a personal You know what I'm saying. Cam could be
funny as shit. He could be smart at shit. He
could be encouraging. He is funny, but he could be encouraging.
He could be all these things. I'm not saying that
he's not. But whatever he is not, it might not.

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The money, the fame and all that shit might not
outweigh the things that he's lost.

Speaker 1 (42:42):
She said, the man I can only dream of but
never experience. I think that's a part of women that
we have to come. I think our expectations are unrealistic.
So never experienced, she said, she's never experienced past that.
So she would like, here we go, I'm not doing
this nobody, Okay, So then so then so then let's go.

Speaker 6 (43:06):
So then let's go look like Cam that's out here
getting all this money in it.

Speaker 1 (43:12):
So let's go to the other end of this question
at work. Let's go So American tennis player who's actually thirty.

Speaker 8 (43:18):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (43:19):
Sashia Vickery made headlines for not only competing in the
US Open qualifiers, but candidly discussing her unusual new dating policy.

Speaker 8 (43:29):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (43:29):
She revealed that she now requires a one thousand dollars
pre date deposit citing past negative experiences, She said I
no longer date for free due to the behavior of men.
The Florida born athlete of Course Florida. She recently reached
a career high ranking of number seventy three and defended
her use of hold on, hold on, mind you hold

(43:52):
on yep. Not only ranked number seventy three, this was
back in twenty eighteen. She also defended her use of
only fans, calling it the easiest money she's ever made.

Speaker 2 (44:01):
Next, discuss this right?

Speaker 4 (44:04):
What what.

Speaker 2 (44:08):
That me?

Speaker 1 (44:09):
Okay, Look, let me ask you no, I absolutely believe
at this point we just need to wear badges that
say Hi, I operate as a prostitute. I operate as
an escort in dating, I expect you to actually this
to be more transactional than me really caring to get

(44:29):
to know you. To me, that's the problem with everything
that I'm seeing online. When you're leading with a woman,
is I need you to give me this before I
even care about anything about your ass. You just need
to be okay with labeling yourself as a sex worker.

Speaker 2 (44:42):
Dog dating is that dating error?

Speaker 6 (44:45):
You are going to kiss a million frogs before you
find your your prince or your Princess.

Speaker 4 (44:50):
Thousand frogs, one thousand dollars.

Speaker 2 (44:52):
I'm not giving them fifty.

Speaker 6 (44:55):
What I'm telling you is, dog, how do you say
they're wasting your time?

Speaker 2 (45:00):
Cool? That's one.

Speaker 6 (45:01):
Yeah, as if their time might not be being wasted
by sitting by sitting with you, having a shitty conversation
with you over a meal.

Speaker 1 (45:08):
Yeah, I agree.

Speaker 6 (45:09):
These are the things, like we in society is adopting
and accepting these things.

Speaker 2 (45:13):
I hate.

Speaker 6 (45:14):
The men have all of the deficiencies and the women
are showing up and showing out, and now it's for us.

Speaker 2 (45:20):
To prove ourselves to them.

Speaker 1 (45:23):
It's crazy because.

Speaker 2 (45:24):
This is a test for both parties.

Speaker 1 (45:26):
I feel like this is and it's funny because in
the comments they were like, well, she can demand that
because of what she does. Maybe she makes a lot
of money.

Speaker 4 (45:33):
I think number seventy three, Yeah, seven years ago.

Speaker 2 (45:36):
And if that's the case, what the fucking cam demand?

Speaker 1 (45:39):
I'm not gonna hold you. I feel like I feel
like to me and the ladies are gonna hate me
on this. I feel like this mentality that a man
has to show up like this out the gate is
broke bitch mentality. Me and mia Ish recently had a
conversation and it was like, as women, when you become
financially independent and financially secure, your views on life changed
so much, like you become a better and as women,

(46:03):
the ability to become financially dependent allows you to actually
get to know men for men and not as these providers,
not as the patriarchy, like you're able to do that
typically happen, I would say in your thirties.

Speaker 6 (46:16):
Thirties, your early forties, when you when you actually have
your own bag.

Speaker 1 (46:21):
When when as a woman, when you have your own bag,
you actually get to view men as as as a
human Yes, which is crazy, but yes, yes, I'll ask.

Speaker 4 (46:32):
Some of the question when it comes to dating, whatever
the age, whatever the bag, at what date and I'm
not even talking sexual for sure, is there any expectation
from a woman? No?

Speaker 1 (46:43):
No, no, you guys definitely want sex. Out question from
the question.

Speaker 4 (46:52):
Expectations of what he has to do, from even calling
to day setting up the date. At what point one, two, three, four,
five later does a woman happen her first expect something
she has to do, something she has to provide, something
she has to call, whatever she has to do. There
are no expectations.

Speaker 1 (47:10):
I would say, at least the way we show up physically,
that's very important. It comes at a cost. So it's
hair's hair done, nails done, the way we dress, the
way we present ourselves.

Speaker 4 (47:20):
There's a there's.

Speaker 2 (47:25):
What are you talking about?

Speaker 4 (47:26):
Were in that same chair?

Speaker 1 (47:28):
Okay, So your expectation, I would say that it's sex.
That's what y'all want, that's the expectation. And y'all don't
I think that when we go into dating women as
a whole, and not necessarily myself because I don't want
the same traditional outcomes with dating. But traditionally speaking, in dating,
women are looking for how this person can be as

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a partner. And I don't think men go into dating
necessarily gauging a woman.

Speaker 2 (47:55):
What's the wrong provider?

Speaker 6 (47:57):
Because if you're looking for a partner, then you're looking
who build with that person and they don't have to
come to the table meeting all this expectations.

Speaker 2 (48:04):
I see how I can mess with this individual to
build an empire for me and my family.

Speaker 1 (48:10):
What are the expectations if we have the expectations of
men being providers, what expectations do men then have on
women in dates?

Speaker 2 (48:19):
Because I'm different, I'm not trying to be different.

Speaker 6 (48:22):
What I'm what I'm looking for and what I'll accept
is different than what some other people will accept. So
I know a lot of people where all a woman
has to do is have a certain esthetic and that
is sufficient for them. And I'm not yet, but I'm
not knocking at at all. If that's what your bag is,
then do your thing. I'm saying that, and I say

(48:45):
this publicly, and you you my friend till you know
they are the intangible ship for me, far out ways
the tangible, if far out ways the tangible for me.

Speaker 2 (48:55):
So I can't see you.

Speaker 4 (48:56):
And we talked many times. Sexual. I love strong conversation,
powerful good conversations. I've been in the space where I
see a lot of young and older women who are
strong doing their thing and always have we hand out.
I just no matter what package it comes in. That's
just completely a turnoff.

Speaker 6 (49:15):
It's a turnoff, and it's been I've been that way
since I was a kid, just talking. No when you,
when you when you come to the table thinking that
I'm so pretty or I'm so fire that that's all
I have to be is pretty right.

Speaker 1 (49:29):
I mean I think I think, oh my god, and
not handsome bitch. No, I think I think though that
it I like to just go back and blame the
patriarchy on this, because essentially, like like I'm not gonna
hold you, okay, let me let me share something. Let
me share something that was so crazy. So I recently
was working on a project I and there's a lot

(49:52):
of movies that, if you rewatch it as an adult,
is insane, like your point of view looks at it crazy.
So recently watched Prob Prejudice and it was so fucking
interesting because the entire film is based upon like like
literally and I'm not a feminist, but I watched it.
I was disgusted. All of the women in the movie

(50:13):
were just waiting to be selected by a man, and
it was built and it was based upon their aesthetic,
their looks. So literally, through the whole film, you're looking
at the women that might not be as attractive the
men that are literally like and then you had mister
Darcy in the film who literally made it seem like
he wanted a very a well read, a well traveled,
well he wanted all these things that at the time

(50:35):
women really just weren't even So it was interesting to
see all of these dynamics of what mothers pushing their
children on to be married, men just having their selection
of all these bitches. And it was just like, this
is a disgusting film. I hate years today, well to me,
it's also and so I was watching it, I was like, damn,
not much really changed now. This film dropped in five

(50:55):
and it was based on like sub medieval fucking time.
But I was like, wow, we're not far off from this.
And so when you sit here and say, yeah, but
women only got to show what looks and men are
looked at as the providers, this was essentially what it's
always been.

Speaker 6 (51:11):
You're leading out a really really really important piece, what
piece the money and pride and prejudice. Those were not
commoners the same way today you're you're making the equivalent.

Speaker 2 (51:22):
Sy to uh the jay Z's, the cams, the these.

Speaker 6 (51:28):
Guys have traditionally gotten pretty women, right, So you're not
talking about commoners. Commoners look at the world in a
different lens than the mega rich, so and pride and prejudice,
you're talking about the dudes that had the pick of
the litter, right, So when you have the pick of
the litter, that's what it's going to be.

Speaker 2 (51:50):
Common men. I think. I think that's why out here
looking for those same things.

Speaker 1 (51:54):
I guess that's why from the microphones of the tweets.
Everything on the internet is spoken from non commoner point
of view. Yes, it's just unrealistic with unrealistic expectation.

Speaker 6 (52:05):
And I know a bunch of women, especially Black women,
that are not out here looking for Cam Newton. I
know a bunch of black women that just want a
good ass dude that's gonna come home every day, that's
gonna cuddle with me feet, give me some dick, pay
some bills, and raise our family.

Speaker 1 (52:23):
Okay, we are agreeing, we are Okay, let's get in it.

Speaker 2 (52:25):
Let's get into quote unquote politics. But you're new there
in that idea.

Speaker 1 (52:28):
I am new there. I'm not going to hold you.
And this is where where like when when writing the
book No Holds Barred, it was very important for me
to be able to showcase like the change in my
lens of dating. And I do think that my early
on views of dating came from a broke ass bitch
who only thought a man was there to allow me
the experience of vacations because I couldn't make it myself.

(52:49):
The experience of luxury back because I couldn't get it myself,
the experience of having a roof over my head because God,
I was like, God, damn, I keep having to work
for rent and now that those things don't are.

Speaker 2 (53:00):
No, I know, No, I'm not gonna lie.

Speaker 1 (53:02):
I'm not gonna lie. My point of views on dating
as a broke bitch were terrible and unfortunately not to
shade any of my listeners. I don't know if you
broke bitches, but when you get to a place of
financial security, and I hope for more women to reach it,
your lens on, men do change and become so much better,
and then you can you also don't feel like you

(53:24):
can't show up as yourself like me right now.

Speaker 2 (53:26):
I love telling niggas you want them.

Speaker 1 (53:27):
Five and you just gotta you know, make that.

Speaker 2 (53:32):
Okay?

Speaker 1 (53:37):
All right?

Speaker 2 (53:39):
Oh no, I know, I know I'll be sharing these niggas.
It's okay.

Speaker 1 (53:42):
I'm a realist though. Anyways, let's get into politics before
before we wrap this thing up. Uh, Donald Trump recently,
you know, stirred up the pot. This is what he
tweeted about the Smithsonian and I want to have this
conversation about our thoughts and views on removing critical race
theory and all the things happening around our history. All right,

(54:04):
So the museums throughout Washington, but all over the country
are essentially the last remaining segment.

Speaker 2 (54:09):
Of quote unquote woke.

Speaker 1 (54:11):
The Smithsonian is the Smithsonian is out of control. Where
everything discussed is how horrible our country is, how bad
slavery was, and how unaccomplished the downtrodden have been. Nothing
about success, nothing about brightness, nothing about the future. We
are not going to allow this to happen. And I
have instructed my attorneys to go through the museums and

(54:33):
start the exact same process that has been done with
colleges and universities where tremendous progress has been made. This
country cannot be woke because woke is broke. We have
the hottest country in the world, and we want people
to talk about it, including in our museums. Now subject

(54:56):
what makes it touchy?

Speaker 4 (54:58):
I just I'll ask it as a question, because you
know connects. I can't mess within certain areas. How do
you put back up Confederate statues at the same time
you're taking down pictures of how about it? How are
you doing that? At the same time you're renaming bases
the same time. You can if you can explain that

(55:19):
to me, I mean you can't.

Speaker 1 (55:21):
I mean, let's be very clear. It's why I just
brought up, like you have this policy right now that
you're pushing to get to knock out immigrants, as if
you're not married to one and created children with another, Like.

Speaker 2 (55:33):
As if they're not all the workers at your golf courses.

Speaker 1 (55:37):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (55:37):
No, I think that where they gave.

Speaker 6 (55:39):
A pass for the immigrants that work in farming quote
unquote and landscaping to get a different.

Speaker 2 (55:47):
Bump.

Speaker 6 (55:48):
Mind you, Now you know that your ship is going
to suffer as a result of yourn.

Speaker 1 (55:53):
When we talk about the potential or possibility of entering
World War three, what is the number one thing they're
doing going back to what happened in World War One
and World War two? Like you can't necessarily even try
to remove history as if it doesn't repeat itself. And
so for me, I think the fact that there's him
and the stantus, I mean, especially because I lean into
Florida politics a lot, and why I think it's important

(56:15):
to lean into what's happening on a local level because
it's going to fucking reach a federal level. To me,
seeing that he's looking to do this is really interesting
because what it's really doing is just making white people
be absolved of their treatment of America. And it's why
he says, let's make America great again. It was never
really great. You want to lean into that we've been

(56:36):
this the best country in the world, when in reality,
now that a lot of us have passport stamps and
actually get to travel, we see how advanced and better
other countries actually are.

Speaker 2 (56:45):
They that, Oh.

Speaker 1 (56:47):
Whis why they wanted to control TikTok. They said, oh,
you niggas is learning too much? They it's I don't know,
it's frustrating. I will say. Museums to me are interesting
because I think they do be lying. So I went
to the African American Museum, and when you start at
the bottom, it starts with the ships that bring the

(57:10):
ship over, and they have all these artifacts that I
questioned to be real and ships, the ships to bring
the slaves over. But then they had but then they
also had like diagrams of how they laid in it.

Speaker 7 (57:22):
Diagra or not.

Speaker 8 (57:28):
War.

Speaker 1 (57:28):
Yeah, okay, so I gonna hold you. They also had
these apparently the actual the the paper where they showed how.

Speaker 2 (57:39):
Many slaves made it, how many slaves didn't make it.

Speaker 1 (57:43):
They had their names, and I'm like, wait, y'all ain't
have names for these things. I know that they was
kind of just numbers. Y'all don't even see these as
human beings. So I'm just like, I don't believe the
the reality that these are real artifacts. And so for me,
when I go into the African American Museum, it's interesting
because a part of me feels like they've already lied
about our history, and so this is interesting that he's

(58:05):
now trying to remove these I feel like white people
have already shaped our history in a way that's not real.
Same same way I went to and I talked about
it in the episode with my mom. We went to
Disney the whole Pilgrim Indian ship that was lied to
us in the delivery of it. And so it's interesting
for us to know that now because we've had people.

Speaker 5 (58:22):
Maybe the victor controls the narrative.

Speaker 2 (58:26):
A lion can't write books.

Speaker 1 (58:30):
What do you mean by that? Could he be saying
some ship?

Speaker 2 (58:33):
Sometimes I'd be like, what the Yeah, you're stupid, it's
a hunter.

Speaker 6 (58:44):
When you're going when you go to somebody's house and
they have a lion head up here as an accomplishment,
because and we're praising them for catching this lion out
in a while, It's like, yo, my nigga, if the
lion could write a book. They're not looking at you
like a fucking hero. They looking at you like a
fucking Okay, you know what I'm saying. And so what
what white people have done? I just had this conversation
yesterday in the hotel lobby. It was two older women.

(59:07):
Now they recognized me from the show and just start
talking about starting a podcast. And so they were really
religious and so they and then they're like, are you religious?
And I started laughing and they're like I'm like, no,
my mom is Pentecostal to the tenth Power and all
of this other stuff, right, and.

Speaker 2 (59:22):
Ladies starts shouting in this lobby and I'm like.

Speaker 6 (59:26):
So we started laughing, and I said, yo, she said,
so you don't subscribe to religion, and I said I do.
I said, however, if you're not, if you're an uber
religious person, then I think you also have to be
a huge historian, because I think the two.

Speaker 2 (59:42):
Things have a marriage and so I said church and
state were one.

Speaker 6 (59:46):
White men were running the world at some point because
they started conquering everything, killing off all the scribes, killing
off all of.

Speaker 2 (59:52):
The whyn and burning the books. Those are the few things.

Speaker 1 (59:56):
They literally books.

Speaker 6 (59:57):
When you immediately conquer a civilization, you wipe out their
history because after one or two generations, their history is
no longer yep.

Speaker 4 (01:00:05):
Cool.

Speaker 6 (01:00:05):
So after the old motherfuckers die and you make with
the people, they're gonna identify with you. This is what
they're doing. I think if they start taking slavery out
of the school books like they're doing in Florida and Texas,
Texics especially, I.

Speaker 1 (01:00:19):
Mean as an adult, I think it's been interesting that
black history has for so long, for generations, has been
so limited with which people they they even teach us about,
Like I wasn't I learned about Fred Hampton because of
Judas and the Black Masside the film, Like there's certain
people with an iron.

Speaker 2 (01:00:39):
Literally, Martin Luther King said, let them smack you, So
that's what we're gonna play.

Speaker 1 (01:00:44):
That was Malcolm X.

Speaker 2 (01:00:45):
No, Martin Luther King said, let them smack you.

Speaker 1 (01:00:47):
Let the white people slack, then the other person, don't
do that shut up. I heard it. I heard it. Well,
you know, one was pro protest, the other.

Speaker 5 (01:00:55):
Was, well, that's what again, that's what they presented to us.

Speaker 7 (01:00:58):
But Martin change his changed.

Speaker 2 (01:01:02):
And then killed him. We can't do that.

Speaker 1 (01:01:12):
I think it's interesting with us being essentially millennials and
gen Y being somewhat of the most woke generations with
the most access, why do you why do we not like, okay,
so educated?

Speaker 2 (01:01:25):
What about?

Speaker 1 (01:01:26):
What about educated to the point where we've had for
success informed generations across the masses. And so it's interesting
to us now being the most informed, having the most
access to technology, to books, to to our our our
people being able to educate us to now literally visibly
seeing them trying to remove it for the generation right

(01:01:47):
below us, right below us.

Speaker 2 (01:01:49):
And that's the point.

Speaker 6 (01:01:50):
So if you and that was the correlation I made
with religion, like yo, we've been taught that Jesus had
blond hair, blue eyes, We've been taught all.

Speaker 2 (01:01:58):
Of these things, and that's just something oral surface. But
if we can.

Speaker 6 (01:02:02):
Erase all of these things that white people have done one,
it absolves them of their guilt. And that's the critical
race theory argument. It absolves them of their guilt.

Speaker 4 (01:02:14):
Those that feel any guilt.

Speaker 1 (01:02:16):
For those that feel guilt, let's be.

Speaker 2 (01:02:19):
A lot of them don't even know what you mean.

Speaker 1 (01:02:21):
They don't know.

Speaker 6 (01:02:22):
They know they finish, they know about slavery. A lot
of them don't know. You just said you're a black
woman that didn't know about Fred Hampton. Yeah, what the
fuck do you think they gonna know about it?

Speaker 2 (01:02:32):
You know, people they don't even know about. No people know.

Speaker 1 (01:02:37):
You're well now that we think about it in terms
of even how we how we learn history. Right, we
have the one Black History Month, but throughout the US
that we outside of Hitler, we don't hear.

Speaker 2 (01:02:48):
There's not much taught about how white people.

Speaker 1 (01:02:50):
Came in and were the slave There's no history on
slave masters and what their treatment was.

Speaker 2 (01:02:55):
They glorify and Santa Maria. They glorify that ship, my nigga.

Speaker 6 (01:03:00):
They came here and took some people ship that welcomed them,
taught them how to farm.

Speaker 2 (01:03:05):
Christopher Columbus learn the terrain and the land.

Speaker 6 (01:03:09):
We torch y'all, and then y'all reversed it and took
our ship away from us and wiped us out and
relegated us to little pockets of land when all of
this ship was ours.

Speaker 1 (01:03:18):
Right, you're right, you're right.

Speaker 4 (01:03:19):
We're only there are communities now that if you could
be a fourteen year old kid just going to school
and have never met a black.

Speaker 2 (01:03:28):
Person, true, and the United.

Speaker 4 (01:03:32):
Building, the community that was going to be just them,
for them, their rules, no one's going to burn that down.
No one's gonna think they learn.

Speaker 2 (01:03:39):
Our ship down today neither. I think that you don't
think so, I don't think.

Speaker 1 (01:03:43):
I mean, I think that that's why they're doing the
gerrymandering and redlining. Like I think that even in terms
of politically the US being in a space to create
a system that's governed by us for us, that's why
they're redlining and making it to where it's not even possible.

Speaker 2 (01:03:58):
I don't think it's power thing that's I think that.

Speaker 6 (01:04:01):
I think that to my point before, if they gave
us equity, how we started off full circle.

Speaker 2 (01:04:07):
If they gave us equity, or if they took away
the roadblocks, were gonna own the road.

Speaker 6 (01:04:10):
I think that what the ship that they're doing in
Texas keeps the powers that be in Texas, the powers
that be because what's starting to happen is even if
you look at Congress.

Speaker 2 (01:04:21):
It's starting to be more color. Yeah, it's starting to
be different.

Speaker 6 (01:04:25):
Uh, sexual orientations, it's starting to be different, religious orientations.

Speaker 2 (01:04:29):
They don't want that ship.

Speaker 6 (01:04:30):
The white men that have been running this country for
the last how many ever one hundred years want to
maintain that power, and they're starting to be scared. A
lot of this, even the immigration shit is based on numbers,
like these motherfuckers are coming here and they and in
five ten years they are going to be the majority,
and we can't have that. So we gotta get these
motherfuckers out of here because they breeding babies like rabbit.

Speaker 1 (01:04:51):
They don't do that.

Speaker 5 (01:04:53):
But yo, you remember, you remember years ago about maybe
over the lost decade, there was a study that said
that twenty thirty or whatever, the dominant language was going.

Speaker 7 (01:05:04):
To be Espanol.

Speaker 1 (01:05:06):
I was gonna be Espono.

Speaker 2 (01:05:08):
Own a construction company.

Speaker 6 (01:05:09):
We know right, well, two sides of the box are English,
the other two sides are Spanish. Right on the outer box,
the instructions, all of that shit. That's how much diversity
is being Not.

Speaker 1 (01:05:23):
Only that I used to say leaving Florida, the idea
of ever going back, I always say Florida's not a
place for me because I'm not bilingual. Like there's a
lot of jobs that require you to be bilingual if
you're living in certain communities in Florida, like and I mean,
I don't know kind of even the Bronx, Like I
remember living in the Bronx, and literally you gotta know

(01:05:45):
how to order your food in Spanish because they not
even learning English. And like they're coming here and having
the ability to do that.

Speaker 6 (01:05:52):
And they'll create a community where they don't have to
leave outside of their community. Like my girls Portuguese. And
so they have a section in New Jersey where literally
all of the Portuguese people live through and they don't
a lot of them really don't speak English. Fact, and
they are surviving in America without being able to speak
English because this pocket of society is just their own.

Speaker 2 (01:06:14):
You feel what I'm saying.

Speaker 6 (01:06:15):
Until white people don't wantshit, they whitewashing the history.

Speaker 1 (01:06:20):
Not only their whitewashing the history. I want to talk
about our power before we get out of here. The
Target CEO did step down amid declining sales and DEI backlash.
If you guys are living under a rock. They recently
shared that they've lost twelve point six billion dollars due
to the removal of their two billion dollar DEI program.

(01:06:41):
And this is showing black people the power of actual
boycott and not spending money with a certain company. I
wish it was like a place I didn't use a
lot because I was like, damn Target.

Speaker 2 (01:06:54):
You said, what.

Speaker 1 (01:06:56):
So I don't go to stores? I do everything online.

Speaker 2 (01:07:00):
You didn't answer this question. I don't have Target gotten something? Hm,
how long we were boycotting? Yo? Who that on that?

Speaker 1 (01:07:22):
I think they did have a cell on TV. I
might have bought a TV from there. That's it, just
a TV and maybe an.

Speaker 4 (01:07:29):
It wasn't some emergency soap. You just yeah, Because.

Speaker 1 (01:07:33):
I mean to be honest, I am an Amazon girly.

Speaker 2 (01:07:38):
And that's the problem. What what's the problem.

Speaker 4 (01:07:41):
Both sides of the fly.

Speaker 2 (01:07:44):
Explain Amazon and Target did the same thing. They committed
to these d.

Speaker 4 (01:07:51):
I programs and then.

Speaker 1 (01:07:56):
But then why didn't we boycott all of it? Why
did we choose only one? I'm about to tell you
because niggas want Amazon. We said we're gonna go after
one of these cars. No, this is the selective ignorance, right,
This is to me the selection, Like, let's boycott this

(01:08:18):
one company for doing something that we're totally against, but
we still go shot at.

Speaker 6 (01:08:22):
The other one because nigga, if we can get the
same day choice from the living room, from your phone, everything.

Speaker 1 (01:08:32):
So then let me ask y'all, because we only chose
to do this one corporation. Do you think it really
moves the needles?

Speaker 4 (01:08:39):
You do?

Speaker 1 (01:08:39):
Okay?

Speaker 2 (01:08:40):
Why? I think it shows?

Speaker 1 (01:08:42):
It shows something.

Speaker 6 (01:08:43):
It shows that one of the biggest retailers in the
world has been punished by well in the country.

Speaker 1 (01:08:48):
I don't think Target is a global.

Speaker 6 (01:08:52):
The biggest in America, one of the beggining you manage America.
They're one of the biggest retailers in America. And for
them to lose money in their stock price see stock
price talks ship. Because now it's New York City, Downtown
New York City is taking notice to this. You get

(01:09:13):
what I'm saying. It's not some local ship where Jojo
Farm got uh mom and pop Stove got got got
bankrupt and Target is losing billions of dollars, which resonates
to people that are there.

Speaker 4 (01:09:27):
Investors, share cut you off. This is the center of
council culture. If you can make it seem and they
have that we don't f with them the more and
to see you there is to expose you.

Speaker 6 (01:09:44):
Solid the some of the biggest minority groups in the world,
some of the biggest minority of groups that we are
afraid of in the world.

Speaker 2 (01:09:54):
Right.

Speaker 6 (01:09:55):
The reason that they are so m impactful is because
they mobilize, and when they mobilize, they'll put out the
word to everybody in their crew that we are not
fucking with them no more. We're not going to lend
a dollar to advertising, We're not going to promote them,
We're not going to spend any money in their stores.
And it shows on your bottom line and on your spreadsheet.

(01:10:16):
And if you can affect a nigga spreadsheet, you can
affect how they do business.

Speaker 1 (01:10:20):
Hurt them in their pockets, hurt them in the pocket,
and that's what happens.

Speaker 2 (01:10:23):
I think.

Speaker 1 (01:10:24):
I think it's interesting because full circle moment and and
my final thoughts, it's interesting to see the power of
the black dollar, while again when we are the underdogs,
but creating these systems where we get to own, we
get to make money, we get to educate our own communities.
We still have the people within our communities talking down
on those on those platforms. It's interesting. I don't, by

(01:10:48):
the way, shop at Target. Thank you very much.

Speaker 2 (01:10:50):
If you know what.

Speaker 1 (01:10:55):
I would, I would I would be I would be said.
If we as a community chosen to do with Amazon,
I just don't. Can I just say, black people, can
we do one of these things that we don't really like.
Let's go to another the next corporation that we target.
Just make sure no pun intended. Let's not target Amazon.

(01:11:18):
You think this works and we don't need to do
it again.

Speaker 2 (01:11:20):
I think no.

Speaker 6 (01:11:20):
I think we need to do it to another, and
the next person that get out of pocket, we do
it to them, and then I think everybody will start
to take notice the same way we take notice with
other groups that Yo, you can't say nothing about the motherfuckers.
You can't do nothing with them motherfuckers, because they'll punish you.
I think once we start making examples of these corporations,
then everybody else will take notice and follow suit.

Speaker 4 (01:11:40):
I'll torusched you the board, meaning for the first person
that gets a little tweet about were coming after your
next they're gonna do something. Target is too visible, too
powerful for and they see the dollars. It wasn't something
that somebody did for two weeks because we were a
big two week We're good for two weeks weeks. I'm
in March for two weeks. But that third I will say.

Speaker 1 (01:12:01):
What's unfortunate too is his target. Target did a really
good job over the last five to ten years of
bringing in black brand like they did so good. So
to see that it was someone either a tax right
off or so performative or whatever they were doing it
to get rid of it in a way that they were,
I thought that they were really moving the needle forward

(01:12:22):
with black brands with black visibility. And so I think
that's also why it was so disappointing that they moved
that program, because they, to me, did a great job.
They did was showing that they stood by us through
b ALM. I know that a lot of influences that
got paid through Target. They Tabitha Brown has her her
products in there. They really highlighted and shelved and put

(01:12:45):
on shelves a lot of black brands.

Speaker 2 (01:12:48):
Like a lot of black hair product.

Speaker 1 (01:12:50):
Yes, and so to see that it was performed, I
think that that's really why we targeted it in because
it was a slap in the face that, oh y'all
really would.

Speaker 2 (01:12:58):
Yeah, they they my.

Speaker 4 (01:12:59):
Friend if I think you my friend and you portray
me in any way, especially something, Yeah for somebody who
you just caping for.

Speaker 6 (01:13:07):
Yeah, Oh that's and I hate to tell you it's
well deserved. I don't feel I don't feel like I've
heard that. Oh they just said that publicly, stepping down,
Like they just said publicly that they're not working with
the de I programs, but behind closed doors they still
have the money is allocated.

Speaker 2 (01:13:28):
Accordingly, that's what they be saying. Yeah, even still niggas.

Speaker 1 (01:13:31):
I've heard they're saying that with Walmart too, they're just
renamingdi it's not getting rid of.

Speaker 4 (01:13:36):
But I'm like, trust me, it's somebody who I work
in a lot of non profit spaces around the nation,
and I'm engaged and plugged in. Money is getting cut off.
No one tell you it's just a little. It's not
just about what's on the shelves. You know, no matter
where you are, companies cut checks.

Speaker 1 (01:13:57):
Oh the marketing dollars not being cut at all, they're not.

Speaker 4 (01:14:02):
And it's impact on our community in ways that we
can't that we that we won't even catch up for
three or four years.

Speaker 1 (01:14:07):
I agree. So my last question to y'all if Amazon
is next, y'all, do y'all give up on Amazon? Or
do you care about your same day deliveries.

Speaker 4 (01:14:15):
With a lot of stuff? I got this audio book,
Wait does a.

Speaker 8 (01:14:25):
Job?

Speaker 4 (01:14:29):
I can get it at overnight?

Speaker 2 (01:14:32):
Your dog ship that I don't even know where to
go shop for it physically except for Amazon. I know Amazon,
and you don't even know it to be on sales
something like now.

Speaker 1 (01:14:43):
It's crazy. I'm not gonna lie. I love Amazon, I
always say, and I keep saying it too. If I
get right.

Speaker 6 (01:14:51):
Up, please your dog the two hundred dollars home depot, faucets,
fly ship.

Speaker 1 (01:14:57):
It's on Amazon sixty dollars, but not not Amazon being
the new shell everything else, okay.

Speaker 5 (01:15:04):
Dog, Amazon is the mom used to look at the circles,
the Sunday circles.

Speaker 7 (01:15:09):
Amazon.

Speaker 1 (01:15:13):
I love it so much.

Speaker 4 (01:15:14):
I love Amazon at least browsing at least.

Speaker 1 (01:15:19):
Amazon has us in a choke hold. I ain't gonna.

Speaker 6 (01:15:22):
Kitchen handle against everything by one order. I could buy Pampers,
formula so everything some in search for my all in
one order.

Speaker 2 (01:15:35):
She's just come in a box and in less than
two days.

Speaker 1 (01:15:38):
Listen, I think some ship could come out about bezos
and we all, I think we'd ignore it. I'm not
gonna lie unfortunate, that is unfortunate, selective bignrans period. Well,
it's thank you for coming on again and joining me
in convo. You ain't really crack no muffins. It was
just good dialog. Enjoy all of us kind of disagreement

(01:16:02):
then coming to agreeance. That's kind of that's kind of
normally what our conversations are like.

Speaker 4 (01:16:06):
And bring your families together.

Speaker 2 (01:16:12):
Hearing all of it. You got anything?

Speaker 1 (01:16:19):
I did not clip it up fourteen.

Speaker 2 (01:16:20):
Times your community, your community was clipping it up.

Speaker 1 (01:16:26):
We didn't clip it up, ignorance. I didn't pay I
don't pay for that much clips. It was literally already
had the one clip. And y'all just February April, you
are you are lying, you are lying. All Okay, So

(01:16:48):
we're ending this with each saying he still don't want
to give niggas no money because he and Barry's that
you just need to make money to treat people like humans. Wow,
I mean that's the synopsis at the end. Do you
have any final thoughts? Just no to anybody.

Speaker 4 (01:17:08):
No, All right, Barry, I want to make sure I
go back for the people who were in invest Fest.
There's some good people doing good things there there. I
know things will be twisted. Go connect the building.

Speaker 1 (01:17:21):
Community, and not only that, if you can't make it,
I think it serves you as well to just go
look at the content and conversations that are had. So
if you go to eyl dot com, they normally post
all of the invest Fast conversations and kind of like
it said, do your homework. At the end of the day,
you got to do your homework. Checks ain't gonna just
be handed to you. Even if reparations does happen there,
They're not gonna just hand it to you. You gotta

(01:17:43):
do the homework. So, y'all, this is another episode. This
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