Ep. 29 | Public Outrage: Young Thug, Carmelo Anthony & Charlie Kirk feat. Ray Daniels - Selective Ignorance with Mandii B

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hey, guys, welcome to another episode of Selective Ignorance. However,

(00:03):
before we get to this week's episode, I want to
remind you guys to purchase my book No Holds Barred,
a dual manifesto of sexual exploration and power.

Speaker 2 (00:11):
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Speaker 1 (00:14):
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Speaker 3 (00:25):
Again.

Speaker 1 (00:26):
That is No Holds Barred, a dual manifesto of sexual
exploration and power, written by yours truly and my co
host of the Decisions Decisions podcast, Weezy.

Speaker 2 (00:35):
Make sure y'all get that. Now, let's get to this
week's episode. This is Mandy B.

Speaker 1 (00:39):
Welcome to Selective Ignorance, a production of the Black Effect
Podcast Network and Iart Radio. Welcome back, y'all to another
episode of Selective Ignorance with me, you girl, Mandy B.

Speaker 3 (00:50):
And today's episode.

Speaker 1 (00:51):
Oh it's late and it's messy because I have a
very special guest in here with me today. But we're
gonna get into pop culture. Off top, the internet has
a stop di secting the leaked jail calls from Young
Thugs Wat and now he's dropped a new single that
feels like a diary entry of pain and burn bridges
and oh my god, crime a River. But here's the question,

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was this apology anywhere near as loud as the disrespect
or the kind of sension he was doing. We'll talk
about that, And of course, Mariah does she really know
about the details. Apparently, y'all she heard those calls a
year ago. I'm gonna talk about the leaked text messages
between her and Tasha Kay where apparently she really only

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maybe broke up with the man because she got embarrassed
by y'all, she allegedly already knew all of the teats,
So we're gonna get into that. And then this is
not a sports podcast, but we cannot ignore the buzz
around Carmelo Anthony's Hall of Fame speak. The man didn't
mention Lala, which has the timeline in a fuzzy all right,

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so is leaving his ex wife out and oversight a
statement or just none of our damn business. However, what
is our business is that he did think his daughter,
who happened to be the affair baby that he had
on La La.

Speaker 2 (02:04):
So maybe he should have mentioned Lalla too.

Speaker 4 (02:07):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (02:08):
Then politics, y'all, we are talking about the killing of
Charlie Kirk, which has sparked a different type of outrage online.
People are arguing over whether or not caring is the
same as celebrating a death. It's a stark mirror of
how we grieve or refuse to in public. That's just
the top layer of it all, y'all. There's more to impact,
from the nature of public apologies to the way we

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choose to get empathy in who doesn't grab your white
lens with me. We're not here to drown in every headline,
but we are here to sift through the noise and
find out what actually matters.

Speaker 3 (02:39):
Two me and my.

Speaker 1 (02:40):
Superproducers who are joined by me.

Speaker 3 (02:47):
Today and always.

Speaker 1 (02:47):
Y'all, it's been a while, but we have our gang
back in the building. We have both Jason and a
King back. We had like two episodes with just Jason,
two episodes with just King. We were you know, maybe
three two three episodes. You was out celebrating what you're
it was you were it was.

Speaker 5 (03:09):
My family.

Speaker 1 (03:10):
All I know is Jason was like, hey, I got
to be out of town. The wife so I ain't
gonna make that recorded. And then, of course we are
joined by a very special guest, my friend, the person
who is more controversial.

Speaker 2 (03:24):
Than me on the interwebs.

Speaker 3 (03:26):
We have Ray Daniel. I really think the most controversial.

Speaker 2 (03:31):
I was saying that that is not true.

Speaker 3 (03:33):
I respect you, like, that's my thing.

Speaker 4 (03:35):
I admire about you.

Speaker 6 (03:36):
I'm like, how does she like I would never do
a horrible decisions?

Speaker 3 (03:40):
As like?

Speaker 1 (03:41):
She like, first off, you just went on and luckily
now I feel like I have to actually have you
on the pod. You just did a whole interview talking
about your poly relationship with ra Ali, So.

Speaker 3 (03:51):
I hate okay, so let me say this. I did.

Speaker 6 (03:59):
I thought that I'm like tottering, I should talk. I
don't hear you sutter often it's because I didn't know
it was gonna come up.

Speaker 3 (04:04):
I just I don't really know what to say process.

Speaker 6 (04:08):
No one asked, nobody asked me like she just it
was like, first to yourselves so much relationships.

Speaker 3 (04:13):
I'm like, I'm happy if you're real. I'm like, should
I do this?

Speaker 2 (04:18):
Well?

Speaker 7 (04:18):
You did.

Speaker 3 (04:19):
I believe in I believe in being free and living happy, and.

Speaker 2 (04:22):
I like that we're kind of the same person.

Speaker 3 (04:23):
Really, that's what I'm saying. I don't think I'm not controversial.

Speaker 6 (04:26):
I think that I'm just I think that I think
that I just think the way a man does.

Speaker 3 (04:29):
You think the way a woman does.

Speaker 6 (04:31):
But I think that that's what makes it beautiful because
you teach me so much about women.

Speaker 1 (04:35):
Actually, people say, I have the mind of a man.

Speaker 3 (04:38):
No, you teach me about women.

Speaker 6 (04:39):
So no, no, no, you teach me about women because
even though you you have the you have the male tendencies,
but you no, no, let me see what I mean,
meaning like you perform like a man, you talk like
a man. The aggression is manly, but everything that comes
out your mouth is what a woman wants to say. No, absolutely,
you're beautiful, But I'm saying you still are like hold
on and it's like that's when Nigga like back up,
you know?

Speaker 3 (04:59):
But yeah, do you agree with him? King?

Speaker 4 (05:03):
Now you want to throw us?

Speaker 2 (05:04):
I mean, you know ya like y'all y'all chose to
join me.

Speaker 8 (05:08):
On this project represent a fabric of women that are voiceless, okay,
and they channeled through you, right. I think how people
perceive you maybe a little different because they're not used
to it. So you know, they always say you got
to meet people where they're at. They're trying to figure
out how they could meet where you're at.

Speaker 2 (05:27):
I'm on another planet.

Speaker 8 (05:29):
It they didn't right, and it they didn't rock with you.
They were this, come on, we're talking about almost a
decade in right.

Speaker 3 (05:33):
You're right, you're right.

Speaker 4 (05:35):
What we're talking about?

Speaker 3 (05:35):
You right?

Speaker 4 (05:36):
They locked in. They want to hear it.

Speaker 3 (05:37):
I don't know. Nobody mad at her. Everybody gets mad
at me. I don't know what. Nobody gets mad at you.

Speaker 6 (05:43):
No, no, I have never seen you ever had public
discourse about ship.

Speaker 4 (05:48):
You said on the pod, Oh yeah, really like what?

Speaker 3 (05:51):
Oh yeah, oh, I don't know if you pick. No,
I didn't pick like it's one hundred and fifty positive
that one. You know what.

Speaker 1 (05:59):
My whole alphabet community got mad at me because we
had someone on the pod that went by them in there,
and at this time, I'm like them in there, that's
multiple people, you just one person. I didn't get the pronouns.
I was confused, and she was wearing pink, but she
don't go by she she go by day.

Speaker 2 (06:16):
And so the whole.

Speaker 1 (06:17):
Episode, I'm like, listen, I'm new to this, you know,
excuse me, she went on her pot Sorry she not
even a she.

Speaker 3 (06:24):
I don't know she is she.

Speaker 7 (06:25):
But that doesn't sound that different than last time.

Speaker 3 (06:27):
Ray was on no, no, no, no no right now.

Speaker 1 (06:30):
Well, I'm saying though that at the point became an issue.

Speaker 2 (06:35):
I'm learning though I'm better now. It's so a little
difficult for me.

Speaker 1 (06:41):
But yeah, no, my whole community kind of got mad
at me, and they tried to me for not no
one off GP But.

Speaker 8 (06:47):
As far as Mandy, nobody has no one has a problem.
Oh wait, no, you know in the public they do
hold on. You know who else got mad at me?

Speaker 1 (06:56):
Even though he did say I could go to one
of his shows, Meek Mill when I went on Need
to Know Poe, and they was trying to make it
seem like meat Meal was this.

Speaker 2 (07:04):
Great ass rapper and I was like, hey cool.

Speaker 1 (07:06):
I was like, y'all know five meat Meal records and
that ship blew up.

Speaker 3 (07:11):
I was like, no, that ship went viral. I didn't
know that that theory.

Speaker 6 (07:15):
I think things only blow up because everybody felt that way,
and they're like, how, like how do you have to
go to say that? And it's like one side that
likes Meek is like what. Then the other side is
like what.

Speaker 1 (07:26):
Well no, and then and then the real problem was
Reggie was able to name five.

Speaker 3 (07:31):
But here's the thing too. All the ones was like features.

Speaker 2 (07:34):
I said, God, name me some without Drake, name me
some without like I said.

Speaker 1 (07:38):
But you're just name four features out of pod like
dreams are not there as we know that one.

Speaker 3 (07:43):
Yeah, I mean, hold on, what a minute, that's it?
You know what I mean?

Speaker 8 (07:46):
No one in this room can name three name You're
the exception of the rule.

Speaker 6 (07:51):
Yeah, but you're you have music guy, that's true. But
like I can't, I like solo Meek or Meek feature. Now,
welcome to my house party, dreams of Nightmare, I say.

Speaker 3 (08:02):
Meek records.

Speaker 6 (08:03):
Now it could be I don't look at it like
solo or nothing.

Speaker 3 (08:06):
I don't because it's like everything is everywhere now.

Speaker 4 (08:09):
No, I'm only leaning into I understand why she said that.

Speaker 8 (08:12):
I get it's and I'm not saying I fux with me,
But I'm just saying I understand it because there's fans
and the super fan.

Speaker 3 (08:19):
But that's my point.

Speaker 6 (08:19):
That's why it was controversial, because it needed to be said.
Then it was like once it was said it was like,
how could you say that. It's like it kind of
needed to be said, Like there's a side of us
that feel this way, and then there's a side of
us that feel that.

Speaker 1 (08:32):
To me, your your your thoughts, it just becomes a
bit You're polarizing, definitely, and I think your opinions more
than I am, which is maybe why I think you're
more conscious.

Speaker 3 (08:42):
Not just showed the side.

Speaker 8 (08:43):
You know, we got a lot to talk, but you know,
you know, we in the clip world, soky big clip
clip shipp up crazy. So just like when we had
on the show and the comment he made about reparations,
how it was clipped up not by us, but like
just the internet. It's like a hundred million times, so
people just see that that one thing.

Speaker 1 (09:01):
Here's the thing with clips, right, I remember, I'll never forget.
So I used to do full court Pumps, used to
be a sports blog, and so I had I had
three dudes that was pissed as fuck at me, DeMarcus Cousins,
Deshaun Jackson, yeah, and uh Des Bryant got to speak
to all of them after the whole thing.

Speaker 2 (09:21):
So I ended up having three different things on.

Speaker 1 (09:23):
My blog about them and when I finally got to
speak to them in person about like what it was,
mind you, Uh, DeMarcus Cousins, that was a leak nude
which he claimed lost some millions of dollars, but the
attorney he had right and me had all these spelling errors.

Speaker 2 (09:38):
I said, funk out of here.

Speaker 1 (09:40):
Then DeShawn Jackson was it was the NFL lockout, and
he bragged about spending all this money at like one
Oak in LA and so I did a whole write
up about how he owed all this money in his
rookie contract, that he was bragging spending this money.

Speaker 2 (09:54):
Niggave went to.

Speaker 1 (09:54):
Yahoo k News all this shit, right yeah, and then
des Bryant, I didn't leak because it was on the internet,
but basically I let everyone know he had two girlfriends
at one point and this was like lou Will days.

Speaker 2 (10:06):
So I share all this on the blogs.

Speaker 3 (10:08):
They hate me.

Speaker 1 (10:08):
Deshaun Jackson kicked me out his section in Miami, like
DeMarcus Cousins sent like the whole Kings to be like,
and then des Brian blocked me and had a lot
to say to Anyways, I ended up speaking to all
of them after and my answer to them was, well,
it can't be posted if it didn't happen. So you
can't get clipped up if you don't say it. So
for me, if you don't want something out there, whether

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it's an opinion, whether it's an act, whether it's something
that you don't want the world to know, keep that
shit off the internet. Keep that shit to where whoever
even is involved isn't posting stuff to wear. Now you
have all these seeds and these crumbs to where people
could put together a little pie and now tell the
word a story. If you want to tell your own story,

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you have to tell it. If you don't want certain
parts of your story out, don't post it. And in
this era of social media where we all, yes have
Mike's in front of us, where we all want post
everything on the internet, don't be mad with shit comes out.

Speaker 3 (11:04):
I agree with everything you said.

Speaker 1 (11:05):
I agree with I'm just saying you can't be clipped
up saying some nonsense. If you don't say not, you
just happen to.

Speaker 3 (11:11):
No, that's not true.

Speaker 6 (11:11):
I'm gona tell you why because I'm it's a clip
right now. Academics got out with that, like Ray Daniels
who said, who said Drake is something they said, and
I was like, I didn't say that.

Speaker 3 (11:19):
I didn't say that. I did say it's over for
him if he doesn't drop the lawsuit.

Speaker 6 (11:23):
I did say that, but and then I also said,
on the same token, we still need him back. It's
like they're like, he's trying to kill him. And now
I'm like, bro, don't. I don't crush anyone. I just
give objective opinions for what I think affects society. I'm
just an objective guy. That's why you said you pissed
off Dez Brian. I pissed off groups of people, and
I'm like, I don't even know what I'm just really talking.

(11:44):
I think there's a group of people that don't like
my voice, and I understand it because I'm speaking about
the way it should be, not the way they wanted
to be.

Speaker 2 (11:51):
I love your voice, and I think we need to
hear more of it.

Speaker 8 (11:53):
And sidebar is September fourteenth, as we recorded this, When
is the Summer over?

Speaker 2 (11:58):
When is the Summer over? The Summer over?

Speaker 5 (12:00):
Now?

Speaker 3 (12:00):
Nigga?

Speaker 8 (12:02):
Three months ago? Man, they said that got clipped up.
When Viral Drake is gonna have the song of the Summer,
It is fall.

Speaker 2 (12:09):
But let's be very clear and we'll talk about this.

Speaker 4 (12:12):
Every couple were bringing this up.

Speaker 2 (12:14):
No, there was no.

Speaker 1 (12:15):
Song of the Summer. But that's a whole other conversation.
That's a whole other conversation.

Speaker 3 (12:18):
We're not gonna get it.

Speaker 4 (12:20):
Whatever comes the criteria of that, Nigga.

Speaker 1 (12:21):
The Song of the Summer was folded by Kailani. If
we really want to talk about song of the Summer,
but we're not going to get into it, We're not.

Speaker 8 (12:27):
The Song of the Summer didn't chart number one for
thirteen thirteen weeks.

Speaker 3 (12:30):
That will we talk about?

Speaker 4 (12:34):
Are we doing that? So we're not We just gonna
ignore Luther.

Speaker 7 (12:37):
Are you talking about about.

Speaker 2 (12:38):
We're not talking about Kendrick here?

Speaker 1 (12:40):
Okay, anyways to put a period on Yes, we're gonna
put a period on that.

Speaker 5 (12:44):
The thing that I like about yeah, the thing that
I said that I always say this about Mandy when
people ask me what it's like working with her, and
I always say, who she is on the microphone is
really not that much different than who she is off
the microphone.

Speaker 3 (12:54):
Don't appreciate about her.

Speaker 5 (12:56):
I don't know that there's an honesty to her a
proo and I think it's the same way like Ray.
Watching everything that you've been doing with your shows. It's
like I look at it and I'm like, this ain't
that different When I was sitting.

Speaker 7 (13:05):
Across from a table.

Speaker 3 (13:07):
It's every day talking on one.

Speaker 7 (13:09):
Like it's just it's just an honesty.

Speaker 5 (13:11):
It's not like you like you turn it off and
you're like, oh, I was just performing.

Speaker 1 (13:14):
I will say Ray is Ray and rapeeness literally since
forever when I first met you. I think I was
like eighteen when I first met Ray run yeah, and
he was always that and then just I think through
the years though to your confidence in a room, how
you walk into a room.

Speaker 2 (13:31):
Even when you walked into the room, you just always
got something to say.

Speaker 3 (13:35):
And I like that.

Speaker 2 (13:35):
I like that speaking have always something to say.

Speaker 3 (13:37):
We have yeah that way too.

Speaker 5 (13:38):
I think that's why when you say stop Potden, you know,
when you say, like with pen wait wait this conversation, yes,
because for you it's just conversation. But for everybody else,
they start like getting worked up, and you're like, yo,
this is just who I am.

Speaker 3 (13:50):
Yeah, I like to work people up.

Speaker 1 (13:53):
So we're gonna do our double down and take it back.
We pulled a clip from you right, because thealy what
we like to do now, whether it's something that I've
said on a previous show or a guest I said
on a previous show, we like to see if you
still stand on what you had to say. And so
Jason's gonna play a clip, and I want to know

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if you still believe in what you have to say
in this clip.

Speaker 6 (14:17):
Let's go see that's what I've been saying on record
the streets this day.

Speaker 3 (14:23):
Everybody is because you think about this. You got rappers
like Fat Joe saying I lied on everything I said.
Now let's be I got six miles back outside.

Speaker 4 (14:33):
Let's be clear.

Speaker 6 (14:34):
That joke from the bron my family from the Bronx
that Joe is a real street guy, like he really
about that life.

Speaker 3 (14:41):
But now he got to say I'm really not. That
was a joke.

Speaker 6 (14:43):
But what's happening is now is that we're just making
it wwe So how can I think about this nineties?

Speaker 3 (14:49):
How can someone in twenty twenty five, How can.

Speaker 6 (14:52):
Someone from two thousand and five come out and really
be a gangster talking gangster ship making money, still talking,
they're going, they're and after you like that.

Speaker 3 (15:02):
That's what I'm saying the streets is dead, and ain't.

Speaker 6 (15:05):
I'm happy for the streets being there now because some
real talented artist too.

Speaker 3 (15:09):
Remember that kid had the.

Speaker 2 (15:11):
I don't know, who are you about to get into saying.

Speaker 3 (15:14):
The kid the kid from Philly. Oh, I thought you
was gonna get into the Jacksonville.

Speaker 1 (15:19):
I love the jackson from Philly. That pop honey, Oh
my god, that was like I loved all that man.
That's the thing though, Then you want the streets is dead. No,
they end up dying in the streets.

Speaker 3 (15:31):
That's what I mean.

Speaker 6 (15:32):
Meaning there's like jay Z was a street rapper who
now is a billionaire. You're not allowed to evolve anymore.
It's like once you come out as that, they're on
you for that.

Speaker 3 (15:41):
Okay, But there's a.

Speaker 1 (15:42):
Difference between being a street man pushing weight and being
a street nigga really killing people.

Speaker 3 (15:47):
Like the the difference.

Speaker 1 (15:50):
Yeah yes and no yes to know, Like the difference
between like what we saw happened in Chicago with all
of those rappers either.

Speaker 2 (15:57):
Getting killed or ending up in jail.

Speaker 1 (15:59):
What we say in Jacksonville, they were really doing gang shit,
street shit, killing killing each other and then putting into
the songs. I think jay Z was just talking about
selling dope.

Speaker 6 (16:10):
He talked about what he did though, that's my point.
He it was almost like we spoke about what we did.
Now we're speaking about what we do, and now that
we speaking about what we do, they like doing that.

Speaker 3 (16:21):
Okay, if you're doing that presently. It's almost like it's
almost like the extreme version.

Speaker 6 (16:25):
Remember, like you know, like there was a point in
time where webcam then becomes only fan. It's like it
just becomes extreme versions of it. And that's what I
think happened to Rap. It just became extreme where I
would be in offices and now people are telling me
the story more than they're telling me about the music.

Speaker 3 (16:40):
He a real dude, He's from the streets. He really bopped,
And I'm like, why does that matter?

Speaker 2 (16:43):
Because that's the thing that matters to our community.

Speaker 6 (16:45):
So that's what I said. That's that right there is dead.
You don't even want to come in the room and
say you did no shit for real. They might be
looking at you. I ain't a street dude.

Speaker 3 (16:54):
That's done.

Speaker 4 (16:54):
But but no.

Speaker 1 (16:55):
I think the other big problem is to these microphones,
Like you get on a guy damn microphone and start
bragging about what you're doing or how recently you did it.
Like there's a body and they're trying to figure out
who did it, and now you on a podcast talk
about you might have some connection to that, and now the.

Speaker 3 (17:12):
Fans is listening. I couldn't believe that fans.

Speaker 8 (17:19):
So and we've seen it, like I just watched this
one of YouTubers. I watched that covers like the drill
scene in New York. He does a good job as
young kid, and he said he has to be mindful
and he was doing a reaction video to another YouTuber
talking about one of the pioneering drill rappers who might
be in jail right now. But he's like, hey, be
mindful because this They clipped up his his his video

(17:43):
and had it in the court. And we've seen this
already with and we've seen it with some podcasters who
got jammed up in scenarios where they're using the audio from.

Speaker 3 (17:54):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (17:54):
I don't know if y'all saw. I don't think there's
a connection. I'm hoping there's not a connection. But the
but the singer what's his name, Brian Brandon, I don't
know whoever.

Speaker 2 (18:04):
A body was just found in his tesla.

Speaker 1 (18:07):
David So, so allegedly they're pulling back a song now
with lyrics because it's a woman's remains that was found.
He has a song called Romantic Homicide talking about killing
a lover, and so they're literally pulling up this record
from five years ago to talk about it.

Speaker 2 (18:26):
And but he's currently on tour. But they're like, oh,
this is looking at mind you.

Speaker 1 (18:30):
He's already been dropped from two brand deals without even
I mean they're still investigating, but literally because they can
attach this romantic homicide record to his those possibly being
his thoughts of killing.

Speaker 2 (18:42):
A lover, and now they're being a dead woman in.

Speaker 1 (18:44):
His in his trunk, It's like, wow, damn, Like, I
think here's the problem, right we do we talk about
even an R and B. Righty, we love to know
that they're going through real heartbreak.

Speaker 3 (18:57):
When someone goes through a divorce, we can't wait to.

Speaker 1 (19:00):
Hear the album that's next, right, And so in that sense,
you're living your real life. I think a lot of
us like for our artists to be connected to their music,
and unfortunately, in hip hop, it's connected to the parts
of them that could send them away. I mean, shit,
look at all the stuff they did with they did
bring up a lot of thugs like Records and his
crew gang.

Speaker 3 (19:20):
Even though it was what is it young? No no,
no no, but what did he.

Speaker 2 (19:24):
Say it stood for.

Speaker 3 (19:26):
In the court?

Speaker 1 (19:31):
I was like, oh, these are good, these are good acronyms. Well,
speaking of thug let's get into pop culture and talk
curn events.

Speaker 2 (19:42):
There have been a ton of leaked phone calls from you.
Have you been listening to them?

Speaker 1 (19:47):
By the way, everyone, I'm I'm mad that he waited
so long to say it was AI like this week
he just he just this week said, man, that shit
is I said, niggas too late you once you actually
apologize to Glowrilla for color ugly.

Speaker 3 (20:05):
We know all these fucking calls are real.

Speaker 1 (20:07):
You should have claimed a I early out the gate
pretty much In these league calls, he's talked about everyone
from Drake Future, Kendrick Gunna, Clrilla apparently also another woman
he wanted to put a baby in which which one
was your favorite call and why.

Speaker 6 (20:22):
My favorite possibly call was a laugh?

Speaker 3 (20:26):
I laugh.

Speaker 6 (20:29):
I'm like he just okay, So my favorite thing to
do in life is people watch. I love so I
love watching people in their most natural state. So this
is like his hat. You know, this is like his
his his guard is down.

Speaker 3 (20:40):
Oh yeah, because he was in jail. He an't had
nothing else to nigga.

Speaker 6 (20:43):
I'm just with my other Jesus Like, It's like this
is how the streets was rying, right, It's like niggas
was gossiping.

Speaker 3 (20:49):
It's like, so now no, they know not to gossip
on the phone. Though not.

Speaker 6 (20:53):
You know, it says the God Call is being recorded, man,
but think about it from that standpoint. Them folks trying
to hear me talk about the rhymes, okay, the sealationious part.

Speaker 3 (21:03):
They like, what they're gonna do?

Speaker 6 (21:04):
You get off, nigga, If you get off, That's why
I've been in I'm like, I look at it like war.
Like what people don't understand about me is that I
like to watch things. So I'm like, wow, rap is
about to go against the DA And I'm like, has
is gonna play out? Because if you in the streets,
you know what it is. It's kind of like it's
kind of like where you're gonna have to fuck with us.
We know it's real, but you're gonna have to come

(21:26):
fuck with us to really know it's real. But in
our world, like we've canceled people for being snitches, like
they'd pop one hundred kids Corvette Corvette.

Speaker 3 (21:33):
He was seventeen when that reker took off.

Speaker 6 (21:35):
They found out he went to the police when he
was fourteen because he saw crime and his mom took
him to the police stage and said, you're gonna tell
these folks. So he did it, and they he's a snitch,
and they canceled his career. The kid's on Corvette Corvette.

Speaker 1 (21:47):
Hopp it there, y'all allow women though, like we could
be snitches, right because.

Speaker 6 (21:50):
I'm why women the hyme around me. That's why women
are winning because they don't have no, they don't have.

Speaker 3 (21:54):
Any I'm snitching. I do not have to be. I
have no street code.

Speaker 2 (21:58):
I am telling I'm not taking time for nobody.

Speaker 3 (22:00):
I ain't I ain't doing it especially, I ain't doing nothing.

Speaker 1 (22:03):
So so women women are allowed. No, No, I think all
time women are allowed to be snitches. No women allowed
to stitch. I mean because not all of us want
to be a down ass a bitch rider anymore. Now
you get looked as a goofy, Like I think being
a snitch is better than to being looked at as
a goofy.

Speaker 3 (22:20):
This is love.

Speaker 6 (22:21):
This is who I love the world because women, women, women,
This is what She's not wrong, but it's messed up
because men don't live by the same room.

Speaker 1 (22:31):
You know, because if you say, if you take time
for a man as a as a woman, even if
we gonna laugh at your goofy ass for taking time
for a nigga who probably laid up with another bitch
anyway about to make a whole new family. There was
actually a girl that just went on Uh TikTok, ladies,
stop telling us how your goofies. She went on TikTok
and shared how she took She took a bid for

(22:52):
a guy for for some drugs bro. While she was
locked up, he started fucking her best friend and now
her best friend pregnant, So she out her best friend
pregnant with the nigga baby.

Speaker 2 (23:02):
And now she's like, man, I took time for him,
how dare he?

Speaker 3 (23:06):
Yeah, bit your goof I just want to say this.
You should let him. I want to say this the
same way.

Speaker 6 (23:09):
That is, I can say the same thing for do
you know how many men are in jail for killing
for a woman that's out here getting real to the mattress,
like like like kill the nigga because he tried to
get your woman and or or kill let's take it
for your little sister who likes street dudes, and you
kill a dude, you go to jail.

Speaker 3 (23:27):
Now she's with the next street dueh beating her up again.

Speaker 6 (23:30):
So that's like, at what point in time do us
men stop acting like fucking goofies and going to jail. Like,
let's be clear, most niggas are criminals because women love criminals.

Speaker 4 (23:39):
No, whoa, whoa, whoa, you should win ahead.

Speaker 3 (23:43):
What listen, let me tell you something. Let me tell
you something. Criminals hit me out, No, no, hit.

Speaker 6 (23:48):
Me out most most here's the cycle that our culture
does and you don't want to hear it, but it's
the truth.

Speaker 3 (23:53):
They like the bad guys.

Speaker 6 (23:54):
They have babies with the bad guys. The bad guys
turned into terrible baby daddies. Then they get the good
guys who wanted them, and they was the ship, the
comeby step daddies, and they celebrate him in society.

Speaker 3 (24:03):
He used the bonus father. He's the great man. You
didn't want him when you were. You didn't want him
when he was twenty one. You didn't want to because
he was lame. You didn't want to because he was lame.
He women like cool, Mandy.

Speaker 6 (24:13):
You know for a fact you don't want to walk
in the room with a nigga that's lame as.

Speaker 3 (24:17):
He don't know me. Huh, you don't care.

Speaker 1 (24:19):
Now, My niggas got PhDs. I liked me a little
like I say that all the time.

Speaker 3 (24:23):
I's not educated.

Speaker 1 (24:24):
I'm telling you now, I don't want no street niggas.
I was dating this one guy. He he he violated probation.
I ain't even want I didn't even want to.

Speaker 3 (24:33):
I'm gonna do. I'm gonna do what you about to do.
I ask you a question, my beautiful question. Yes, go ahead. Yeah.

Speaker 6 (24:40):
I don't want to ask your age because it's to
ask one. I'm thirty four, okay, thirty four. When you
were twenty, were you messing with street dudes with the
PhD guys?

Speaker 2 (24:49):
I was dealing with athletes, millionaires who got it legally.

Speaker 3 (24:51):
Man, you were smart. I was the street. Oh yeah,
I said smart.

Speaker 2 (24:56):
I was telling Molly to the athletes, to Miami.

Speaker 3 (24:58):
You're smart.

Speaker 4 (24:59):
She was.

Speaker 3 (24:59):
She was a cops came knocking out, but blust him down.

Speaker 1 (25:01):
The toilet, but he ain't come for me, man, So
then I tried to say to Molly out the toilet
and still.

Speaker 3 (25:05):
Get them ship talk because I had to get my money.

Speaker 6 (25:06):
Man. Look at this, this stamp, looking at this this
let's you rug and Mariah.

Speaker 3 (25:13):
That is a true Atlanta story. Ariah is a beautiutiful,
g educated, educated girl.

Speaker 6 (25:18):
Father is one of the most legendary coaches in southwestern
cab Here. He has a statue I heard, and she
comes from a great, great everything. You still end up
with a street guy because it's just the way. It's like,
women want to feel protected.

Speaker 3 (25:33):
Street god. It's not not dissing them.

Speaker 6 (25:35):
I'm just saying women want to feel protected and street
guys make you feel protected when you're twenty three, twenty
four as a man. That's me, not me telling a woman,
now take care of my kids. I pay my taxes.
That's sexy as hell.

Speaker 3 (25:44):
Oh yeah, And I was playing that twenty twenty five.
It was like, lame, I like the street niggas.

Speaker 2 (25:49):
I'm not gonna lie.

Speaker 1 (25:49):
Mariah's gonna look back at this relationship and be like, girl,
what the fuck was you thinking?

Speaker 2 (25:56):
Now here's the thing too that I wanted.

Speaker 4 (25:57):
To talk about.

Speaker 1 (25:58):
So it's really, I mean clearly between both of their tweets,
her posting, her lyrics, they're now broken up alleged I
feel like she gonna get back with him. But and
this is why I think they're going to get back together.
There were leaked text messages between Tasha k and Mariah
the scientists where Tasha Kay had these tapes last year,

(26:18):
last October, these tapes were available. These tapes weren't leaked
to the public, but they were available. Apparently also shout
out to Laura l Rossa. She brought up and for
any of y'all with anybody in jail, apparently in Cobb County,
in Atlanta, anyone can request jail calls.

Speaker 7 (26:34):
You can make the requests, you.

Speaker 3 (26:35):
Can make the requests at.

Speaker 1 (26:38):
Atlanta to listen. You can literally request jail calls. And
so I'm sure.

Speaker 2 (26:44):
People were just looking for ye and Atlanta will give
you this ship.

Speaker 1 (26:48):
So apparently thug did have to have his lawyers talk
to Cob County. They stopped being able to like he
put a stop for anyone being able to access his
calls because clearly we heard the leak calls a couple,
you know what I mean, last year, and so he
did have a stop on it. However, not before clearly
they got all this other shit. So allegedly Mariah already

(27:08):
knew the call with him talking about impregnanting the woman,
that he was cheating fucking the CEOs. He said the
CEOs was handing out boxes quicker.

Speaker 2 (27:15):
Than FedEx broke out. That was crazy, that was crazy.

Speaker 1 (27:21):
So she knew that this whole time these calls existed,
what he did, that he was cheating on her, And
it wasn't until the whole public knew that then she
broke up with him.

Speaker 2 (27:31):
So for me, it's like she's embarrassed. Well, and that's
the thing too a lot of times.

Speaker 1 (27:36):
And this is why I tell everybody they're not really monogamous,
because y'all be saying what he's cheating ass niggas knowing
they cheat. That means y'all not monogamous in real life.
But but the problem is women don't like to be
publicly embarrassed in.

Speaker 6 (27:49):
Front of other women in front It's not men. Men
don't give a fuck.

Speaker 2 (27:53):
Okay, Okay, you know what I'm actually not.

Speaker 3 (27:55):
I'm not disagreeing with.

Speaker 6 (27:56):
I spend so much money on purses and things, and
I'm like, I don't care about that.

Speaker 3 (28:00):
That's it's like, I get it. It's for other women.

Speaker 4 (28:03):
I get it. Let's you a correlation between that.

Speaker 8 (28:06):
And let's say when they say other women like men
who have other women because they like the girl.

Speaker 3 (28:14):
Listen, man, let me tell you. We are in a
different society right now.

Speaker 6 (28:18):
And I believe that, Like I'm being honestly because I
believe that, Like, we are all still in high school.

Speaker 3 (28:22):
Let's just take damn yo.

Speaker 6 (28:25):
Remember in high school, Jason, you got great beer, you
got out a little bit, you got away from everybody
for a little bit. They here come Facebook. You're like, oh,
she's twenty seven, how's life doing. Think about when you
leave high school at eighteen and nineteen and twenty and
now we're all still connected.

Speaker 3 (28:38):
We're still we are.

Speaker 6 (28:40):
We're still stuck with like being embarrassed or worried about
you gotta let that shit go and focus on your happiness.
That's why I like podcasters, because if we're talking, we
ain't ready to let it go.

Speaker 3 (28:50):
For we said it out loud. You can't. You can't
hurt my joy way too much.

Speaker 1 (28:55):
But yeah, I don't know, I think I think her
being embarrassed publicly is one thing I do think.

Speaker 3 (28:59):
She she goes back.

Speaker 1 (29:01):
I did want to ask you your thoughts on the
new record, because everyone was like, bro, just put out music.

Speaker 6 (29:05):
He I think that I think that, do you like
the new record? I think that when the Thugs, superpower
was mystery right oka. And I think that now that
you know, like now that they've exposed this part, like
you know, like him Pillow talking with this woman, I
think that that is more entertaining right now than the records.

Speaker 3 (29:24):
Yes, I think so.

Speaker 6 (29:25):
I think that I'm not he could have dropped the
record that was incredible. It's almost like me saying to you, yo, manny,
everybody walking to my house, Hey, look guys, here's why
I want everybody to hang out at y'all.

Speaker 3 (29:34):
This is the room for everybody. Don't nobody go in
that door right there? Yeah, yeah, don't nobody.

Speaker 6 (29:39):
And then they, you know, of course, when I leave
the room, everybody like, what the fuck is in that doing?

Speaker 3 (29:43):
That's just how the society is.

Speaker 6 (29:44):
So I think we're just more interested in what thugs
the shit that thug doesn't want us to see than
the thing that he does right now, And I think
that that's just the timing thing. So I thought the
record was good, but I think that the conversations are
more interesting, and I think that that's what people are
running to. We have choices now, hmm. Now we have
choices now, like we can choose whatever. We can listen
to the song or listen to BTS conversations. I think

(30:06):
everybody's choosing a BTS conversation.

Speaker 1 (30:07):
I mean, I also just think that the thing that's
not helping him is that the calls come across like
bitch ass shit. It's lame essentially, right, I talk because
here's the thing, right, I've even said it. It's what's
so great about CARDI. We actually like feeling like we
could hang or want to be around parts. I agree,

(30:29):
And so we like relatability when it comes to artists.
I don't think even though niggas do pillow talk, I
don't think people want to feel relatable to a him
just getting out of jail, be him doing all the
bullshit he did, he done, fell out with everybody. I
think that's the problem everything about his relatability. Nobody wants
to relate to. No one wants to be someone that

(30:51):
almost got locked away for life. Nobody wants to be
admit to pillow talking, even though men do it. No
one wants to believe in the way he showed up
in not support Alady Mariah.

Speaker 2 (31:00):
The women can't even get next to you with it.

Speaker 1 (31:02):
Then you hating on Gunna because you did jail wrong,
like you were supposed to go to jail come out
looking better, like you ain't doing no push ups, no
sit ups. You went in jail and got fat and
pillow talks. You didn't even do jail right, Gunna did.
He came out looked better. He looked like a clone
version of his goddamn self. He came out and dropped
fire ass music. Everything that he hates Gunna for is

(31:22):
what he should have been doing in and said, we
got a sadass song about why he's sorry to everybody.

Speaker 4 (31:27):
Nigga.

Speaker 6 (31:28):
I'm not even you I agree with that part of it. Like, see,
this is the thing you can't argue that narrative. My
thing is is when you when you think about the
fact that he got out after three years, also think
about the fact that he could have been in there
still to this day. Okay, right, So it's kind of
like life's over life's and then like it's almost like
how thing was like, they took all your money from

(31:48):
your Manny, So now I'm.

Speaker 3 (31:49):
Like, call Predo. I used to fight that nigga. He
get Mike ain't giving me five fucking dollars. I'm in jail.
Mike is dodging the calls. I'm like.

Speaker 6 (31:57):
He was just like, of course your dog, he is
the boss, and now he only can control the world
from that phone.

Speaker 3 (32:04):
So that's all he's trying to do.

Speaker 6 (32:06):
He was trying to be the boss control and by
the way, like I said, I know he did everything right.
They got him in a puppet. They couldn't do this
to John Gotty because no one cared. Now because of
social media. They like, dog, I'm telling you Rap Street
rapt is dead. They're gonna get us every time you
because you got Remember he was like, he's also the
same dude that said he meant that. By the way,

(32:26):
if we all go to jail for life, whooped the
damn do? He was willing to do it.

Speaker 3 (32:30):
He was, That's my point. He was he's a different
level of man.

Speaker 1 (32:33):
And I think that and then guess what he came
out saying that and Everyone's like, that's what. Hell, no,
we don't agree with that, But I think that whooped
the fucking dude. We gonna stay if I go to
jail for life or go to jail. And everyone's like,
none of us agree with that, Like we don't live
that way.

Speaker 3 (32:47):
Broe barbershop too. But he was like, we're gonna go
to jail. Yeah, and we got done.

Speaker 9 (32:52):
And we got done, except the entertainers like, hell yeah,
and they ain't gonna die. Like and I think, but
I think what's gonna happen with Thug is that I
think Thug is really hurt now because he's like, damn,
I thought we was all following the same cod.

Speaker 6 (33:09):
And y'all and now y'all let these lanes win. I'm
telling you, I could see that driving him crazy. But like,
that's the point he I would tell him, if I
was with him.

Speaker 3 (33:16):
Let that ship go.

Speaker 6 (33:18):
He got to grow up as much as he was
raised on whose snitch?

Speaker 3 (33:23):
Those days are done.

Speaker 4 (33:24):
You said, if you was with him, that's the problem.

Speaker 8 (33:28):
A lot of these dudes don't have that ecosystem of
of confidence and say.

Speaker 1 (33:33):
But they can't because a lot of people that that
go around men that operate like a thug or that
wants to be the boss. Essentially, what happens is you
keep people around you that are your yes man. You
keep people around you that have to count on you
for a check to feed their families. So a lot
of times you're not gonna step up and check somebody
on what you think is wrong, because it's gonna trickle
down and have an effect on you. So a lot

(33:55):
of times, all these men like I ain't gonna get
into a lot of niggas in this in this industry period,
I ain't gonna they names, but from from podcasts, ain't shut.

Speaker 4 (34:05):
Up at this point.

Speaker 3 (34:08):
Yeah, at the lunch table right chool.

Speaker 1 (34:10):
All I know is there's a lot of people around
them and that they men need yes man. I'm gonna
lead into two men. I don't think we'll really operate
this much a week man.

Speaker 3 (34:21):
But a lot of these men are weak.

Speaker 2 (34:22):
A lot of them are narcissists.

Speaker 1 (34:24):
You know, all the words that men don't like being
attached to them, and so a lot of them have
yes man. Unfortunately, Thug was in a position with a
lot of yes men, and I think that's really his
issue with Gunner.

Speaker 3 (34:34):
At the end of the day, Gunner was like, oh, yeah,
this ain't. I ain't with none of this.

Speaker 2 (34:37):
But I'm not saying yes, no more, this ain't for me.

Speaker 6 (34:40):
Like what you just said. I'm glad you said that.
See what she said, you said no more. And as
a man that's used to being leading and calling shots
and everybody following you, and now the soldiers ain't listening.
Driving me crazy too if I was that was the
way you knew life. That's all I'm like, I got.
That's what I mean by I give people grace, Like
I'm like, hey, man, I don't know what I was
doing scenario, but I think I'm looking at I'm like,

(35:02):
I might not never get out of here all I can.
Sometimes you just want to make that I just want
to feel like we on the couch laughing, because that's
what we might be doing.

Speaker 3 (35:08):
At the house. Man. That Nigga lame was hell.

Speaker 1 (35:09):
I mean, it's a bit of an ego trip too,
because I think at the end of the day, when
you a boss, you see yourself as a leader, and
he can only view himself right now as a failure
who failed as a leader, who failed as a boss,
who kind of let a lot of people down.

Speaker 3 (35:22):
And only that.

Speaker 6 (35:23):
The problem that I think he did is a problem
that a lot of people have with the world is
when you tell people to be perfect and you're at
ninety nine percent, you ain't at a hundred. Bro Wanting
them phone calls was the one thing that exposed you
that have nothing to do with the trial, nothing to
do with nothing to do that was the one thing
that they that was the ninety That was the one
percent that made you ninety nine, not one hundred. And
by the way, even if Gunn is eighty five in

(35:44):
year odds, none of y'all are perfect. And I think
that's the hard part of accepting, Like damn, Like that's
how y'all see the world now, Yes, Nigga is different.

Speaker 8 (35:51):
Now.

Speaker 6 (35:51):
It's like it's like that time when you it's like
some man one day said the F word into another
gay man, like F word, and everybody looked like, hold
on here, you go, hold on here, No, no, no, no.
I'm one of using it as an example that I'm
saying that it was okay until one man said and
everybody's like, that's not okay no more, and what and
that men had to adapt to that, And what I'm
saying I think that's what's happening to the streets right now,

(36:11):
because it wasn't like you was trying to I don't.
I don't think he was trying to be bad as
just sometimes you grew up hearing shit a certain way,
like she's a bitch, he's It's like you heard it
as a kid, you just recited, and now you get
to this. I'm twenty three, and we don't use that
word no more like the R word.

Speaker 3 (36:25):
You can't say that. It's like certain words you just
don't say on record, Like so when I'm mad in society,
that's actually a word I want. I agree because a
lot of a lot of the niggas need to be called.

Speaker 4 (36:34):
I really like that it's slowly being accepted now.

Speaker 3 (36:37):
I need it.

Speaker 2 (36:39):
I mean it's bad that I like that's the word.

Speaker 1 (36:40):
And I'm like, what doth not mad undiagnosed biggas walking around?

Speaker 3 (36:44):
We need to be able to call him that's it.

Speaker 5 (36:47):
You might be helping him out and diagno use that's
the word.

Speaker 4 (36:56):
I like that.

Speaker 1 (36:58):
All right, Well, let's get into this another sports podcast,
but we're leading a little bit into the sports here
we go. Let's get it to it. Carmelo Anthony, Dwight Howard,
super Bird, my more. They just had the Hall of
Fame for Basketballah. I mean, I'm from Orlando. I was
a huge fan of the Orlando Magic. Used to used
to be credential media. When they went all the way

(37:20):
to the finals and lost to those I was really sad.
I was credential media in the for the NBA through
Black Sports Online. Shout out to Robert Littel and yes,
so I was really excited to see this.

Speaker 2 (37:33):
By the way, backstory, how much I love Carmel Anthony.

Speaker 1 (37:36):
So, Carmelo Anthony wanted Syracuse when I was and I
think I was in like seventh grade, and when he
got drafted to the Dinver Nuggets, my mama's boyfriend at
the time went to Champs Sports was able to get
me the jersey from the back he knew he knew
an get Champs. It was before the jerseys came out.
And when I tell you, I wore that ship to school,

(37:57):
it was the flyest bitch you hear me. No, but
I have a picture of me with my Denver Nuggets
jersey Denver Nuggets poster behind you my whole room. I
was fifteen in basketball because of mellow like throughout middle
school and high school. So I really love this well
deserving of it, I do. I do think his his
career was tricky because of all of the the hoopla

(38:19):
around him leaving Denver then coming to New York. I
think playing in New York is tricky, and I don't
think they fully surrounded me. I was gonna say they
never surrounded him in New York with its timing.

Speaker 8 (38:30):
Yeah, like he can't do everything by himself, but what
he did, his contribution.

Speaker 1 (38:34):
Was dat Yeah, Like I'm trying to think they had
they have around him, like they played.

Speaker 4 (38:41):
Emon Smer.

Speaker 1 (38:43):
By the way, but he ended up getting injured quite
a bit, right, And so another bit, I got to
watch him when he was in high school. So he's
from Orlando. He went to Cypress Creek. Yeah, so I
got to watch him play his senior year when I
was in Orlando. Anyways, going to this is not a
sports podcast. Oh look, y'all probably surprised.

Speaker 3 (39:02):
I noticed much, Huh. You know what I mean?

Speaker 1 (39:06):
Really being this shit, Well, it's not about whether or
not Carmela Anthony should have been a Hall of Famer,
but people have been selectively outraged. I guess at the
fact that in his acceptance speech he did not think
his ex wife now La La Anthony and.

Speaker 3 (39:23):
The internet seems split about it.

Speaker 1 (39:25):
I do think it's one of those you damned if
you do, damned if you don't type of type of scenarios.

Speaker 2 (39:30):
Basically, yeah, let me just ask you.

Speaker 5 (39:34):
He's being for context, it was it was a twenty minute,
it was Yeah, it was a long.

Speaker 3 (39:38):
Time, a lot of people, a really good spee. But Jason,
I was about to go there.

Speaker 6 (39:41):
I was about to be like, if La La won
the Oscar, any man is gonna be mad that she
didn't think mellow, we don't care.

Speaker 3 (39:48):
Okay, So you think this this was a woman I
think this is a woman led issue.

Speaker 6 (39:53):
I think every man that understands what is going on knows,
like as a man, I put like this him and
him not and her. I just told us where they
are at that moment. But I would say like and
like we good. I might be like, but we might
not be good today. So I don't want to say
it might.

Speaker 1 (40:09):
Be depending of the time. You're right, because timing thing
like and they have been co parenting. I love that
Kayane is going to Syracuse as well, Like I just
love that.

Speaker 3 (40:17):
I love it.

Speaker 1 (40:18):
It's all the pictures around it, Like it's like, really
dope seeing that full circle to me. To me, it's
interesting because I remember talking Jason, Oh that wasn't even
a full episode, but I remember talking about during the Olympics,
there were men that chose to propose to their partners
during the Olympics, And for me, I felt like, as women,

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you're actually in a space.

Speaker 3 (40:41):
Where you are something you worked hard for.

Speaker 1 (40:44):
You should be awarded the medal, you should be awarded
like the accolades in that moment for that thing, and
now you're attaching this personal, this personal part of it
to your life, and I think that's fucked up. So
for me, it's not like the way she wasn't with
me she in the gym ship. For me, as an athlete,
I don't think you have to to, you know, parade

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the women that were in your life.

Speaker 2 (41:07):
I don't his kids, I mean.

Speaker 3 (41:10):
And let's be cool.

Speaker 6 (41:11):
But also the little girl being there was the controversial
child because everybody that word on the street was that
was what broke them up, right, No, no, no, no, I
don't know.

Speaker 3 (41:19):
I don't I don't know.

Speaker 1 (41:20):
The word on the street is that that little girl
happened six seven years ago. What broke them up is
he allegedly has two more twins.

Speaker 3 (41:29):
Oh okay, that's what No, no, no, it's not insider ship.

Speaker 2 (41:36):
I love Mellow, I love Mellow.

Speaker 1 (41:38):
I shout out to seven people in Brooklyn, love everything
he's doing. This is a public thing that allegedly broke
them up. So there were text messages and things because
the woman is in London and apparently he tried to
give her money for an abortion.

Speaker 2 (41:53):
She didn't have it. And then I think the kids.

Speaker 1 (41:56):
There's some like health problems with with the twins, and
he's like not trying to be involved at all.

Speaker 3 (42:01):
This is all on the internet. She leaked the information.

Speaker 1 (42:04):
So that's apparently the straw that broke the camel's back
with this relationship because he did have an affair baby
they continued in their marriage. But then there's the two
other kids right now. Yeah, there's a there's more a
fair babies. So that's apparently what that's what they call
the fair babies.

Speaker 3 (42:22):
If you have babies referred to my child.

Speaker 6 (42:29):
First of my baby, I'm fighting on spot child.

Speaker 8 (42:35):
Child imagine introduced you get to the third one. But oh,
that's the fair baby.

Speaker 3 (42:40):
I mean, hold on, this is what is that one?
Oh that's the one.

Speaker 1 (42:42):
This is what people are talking about, Like, this is
what they're going to be referred to. I bet you
a Lalla family know a fair baby, right like like
Lalla is like the mad my kids, they they ain't
a part of like my relationship with this man. Them
ain't even Cayne's siblings. God damn it, like them the
affair of babies.

Speaker 8 (43:01):
But anyway, yeah, Kimla with two phrases, undiagnosed, your baby is.

Speaker 1 (43:09):
Already a word that said, we're not gonna do that anyways. Basically,
me and and Ray actually sit here in agreement. It's
not a big deal that Mellow did not mention La
La congratulations to Melo often congratulations.

Speaker 3 (43:22):
I think he mentions her all the time otherwise, and
by what he does.

Speaker 5 (43:25):
When I used to work with him and his son
will come around, he'd be like, you know, don't don't
forget your mother said this. Your mother said that, don't
be doing that because you know how your mother gets
like And then they did an episode together when he
announced they did do they did, and they made sure
they sat down, and then they got back up to
hug each other because they were like.

Speaker 2 (43:40):
Were you were you a part of producing that episode?

Speaker 7 (43:42):
I wasn't on that episode.

Speaker 3 (43:43):
Okay, okay, okay. You know that.

Speaker 5 (43:46):
They stood back up to hug each other because they
knew how the internet would be.

Speaker 3 (43:49):
I mean, and I will say he knew the internet
is high school. They knew how high school wuld be
because they.

Speaker 2 (43:54):
But Mellow does often talk about like how great of
a mom.

Speaker 6 (43:58):
Literally literally, and she does the same fact, and as
long as Lala's not out there screaming about it, why
is anybody else?

Speaker 1 (44:05):
Because the only thing Laala was was holding up her
phone at the game, like.

Speaker 2 (44:11):
Like if Lola has something to say.

Speaker 4 (44:12):
If she was a time she was like, oh ship
any day now this is about to go.

Speaker 1 (44:17):
But that's why I think they worked through that, and
I think that there's still a level of respect. But
I do think for this moment, for what basketball has
meant in Mellow's life, mentioning Laala wasn't that necessary.

Speaker 2 (44:29):
And also I want to let y'all go to cool.

Speaker 1 (44:31):
We're not even gonna talk about him shouting out Puerto Rico.
Y'all get on my goddamn nerves. If you want to
shout out, motherfucker Puerto Rico, let him. He's a he's
a biracial, he's Puerto Rican. He blacks, and y'all don't
want to let that man shout out Puto Rico.

Speaker 4 (44:44):
Would like to have a word.

Speaker 1 (44:45):
That ship was so annoying. He got the Puerto Rican
flag tattered on him. Let him run, he writes. Some beingis,
let the nigga shout out Puerto Rico. And I think
he does have a court in Puerto Rico. He has
a basketball court out there right, So like he goes
out there in the hood.

Speaker 8 (45:00):
He contributes to Baltimore, he contributes to Puerto Rico, he
contributes to Brooklyn.

Speaker 3 (45:05):
He is and I think they in the way high
school goes.

Speaker 6 (45:09):
We gotta find something wrong with him. So he didn't
thank his girlfriend for three years ago. He is like
high school bro.

Speaker 9 (45:15):
Every time I'm reference high school, I'm just gonna tell
you this is high school ship.

Speaker 3 (45:18):
But you're not wrong.

Speaker 4 (45:19):
Going to do a new podcast. Think we got that
we should do what it is.

Speaker 1 (45:26):
We have lunch table high school, all right, Well this
this next person wouldn't have been at our lunch table.
Let's talk about right wing conservative recently shot and killed
Charlie Kirk, who died in Utah. I will say at
least he died doing what he loves. He was talking
about black people and guns. So literally give it up

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for him for dying doing what he loves to do.
Oh his last words, we're talking about how.

Speaker 2 (45:57):
It was crazy.

Speaker 3 (45:58):
We're gonna.

Speaker 1 (46:00):
Yeah, basically Charlie Kirk, which, by the way, when it happened,
I was recording my radio show.

Speaker 2 (46:06):
Now on Hot one on seven night. You know, we
were recording and my producer med was like, Charlie Kirk
does that?

Speaker 1 (46:11):
And I said, who. I don't know these white people.
And I didn't know really anything about him. However, I
did see his content with Jubilee the twenty v one,
and I was like, oh, mind you. And the only
reason why I saw it was he was the one
who was pro life, which also pro guns and pro life.
Very interesting when you're saying everyone deserves to die, but
yet these fetuses really interesting. Basically a little bit about

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him for y'all who don't know, because I didn't know much.

Speaker 3 (46:35):
He was a college dropout.

Speaker 1 (46:36):
He founded Turning Points to USA, a nonprofit that did
most of their work on college campuses to push.

Speaker 3 (46:42):
A conservative.

Speaker 5 (46:45):
Young from donors. It's not like he just started on
his own. He got He got a bag from other
people to start.

Speaker 1 (46:51):
And this is an interesting part too. He wasn't a politician.
He actually wasn't much different than Ray and I. He
was a person who pushed hiss to the masses. So
I will I will say no one deserves to die,
get killed, get shot for having an opinion. For as
long as we have the First Amendment, For as long
as I get paid to send a mother in front

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of a mic and have y'all mad about my opinions,
I'll never say that anyone who has a differing opinion
than me deserves to be shot and killed. Ever, like
niggad do live shows, I need y'all to know I'm
here for a bit, to be a hose and if
you don't believe it, don't come to kill me.

Speaker 2 (47:25):
So not gonna say that.

Speaker 1 (47:26):
However, However, I want to talk about the lack of
comprehension skills in the US of A. Because blacks are
mad at the blacks, blacks are bad at the whites,
Whites are now mad at everybody. There is a difference
between having no empathy and not giving a fuck if
someone dies and celebrating a death. I don't think that

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we're out here throwing parties because this man got killed,
because a lot of us didn't care about this man.
He didn't lean into having the same thoughts or views
of us. He pushed a narrative that we felt the
need to combat, which is what a democracy.

Speaker 4 (48:00):
Is some of us. Because you think.

Speaker 2 (48:03):
People are out here celebrating like they're gonna go dance
on a man grave, you.

Speaker 8 (48:06):
Know, I'm saying some of us. There's some of us
who did empathize with it.

Speaker 7 (48:10):
What are your thoughts?

Speaker 2 (48:11):
You can I ask y'all thoughts.

Speaker 1 (48:14):
Are y'all mad at the black folks outside of kandas
Owns because apparently that was her bestie. Are y'all mad
at black folks having empathy or showing remorse or caring
about this?

Speaker 6 (48:24):
I think I think black people, I think our cultures
a whole needs empathy more than anything. I think that's
why we're so hard on each other. It's because that's
why we're so angry with each other. Because it's like
when you're in the hood and you they don't give
a fuck. If you're poor, they're gonna laugh at you,
they're gonna point at you, they're gonna fuck with you.
So I think that we're all tired of as a coach.
We got to stop that, we all need to end

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that part of it.

Speaker 2 (48:45):
I'm sorry, but wait, we shouldn't empathize our presses.

Speaker 3 (48:48):
No, no, no, no, no, we don't.

Speaker 2 (48:50):
We don't need to show empathy for.

Speaker 6 (48:52):
People at each other, like I'm talking about to each other,
like even how we how our music is violent, how
it's like it doesn't matter and it's like that's them
over there.

Speaker 3 (49:01):
No, that's still people that look like us.

Speaker 1 (49:03):
So then so then do you think that there is
a problem with the people calling out other black people
for not showing empathy.

Speaker 6 (49:10):
Like I'm a king, I'm gonna say what I said
again about high school where there are people in high school.
We didn't like Jason, Yes, you know, we didn't like
him because we didn't understand that in a couple of years,
we don't have to live with these people anymore. Social
media has made us think that we have to live
with each other. So that's what makes us hate each other.
We don't have to live with each other.

Speaker 3 (49:28):
Like I got.

Speaker 6 (49:29):
Neighbors next to me. I know one neighbor because she's
a famous actress. With the other neighbor, I don't know them, man,
I don't tell them.

Speaker 3 (49:35):
I don't talk about the neighborhood. You live in the neighbor,
not the neighborhood. I'm saying. My neighbor is a famous actress,
so I know her.

Speaker 1 (49:41):
He said, just my block got the money.

Speaker 4 (49:45):
He don't talk to people they make less than him.

Speaker 3 (49:47):
You know what I mean? That's you said that.

Speaker 2 (49:49):
You said, I a'ting to argue with nobody who makes less.

Speaker 6 (49:52):
Mean I'm not gonna not to talk. It's differently not argue.
It is a wasted emotion for me talking. I'll talk
to anybody, but I'm not about life. If you ain't made,
you ain't built nothing yet. You haven't built anything yet,
have you done? Now?

Speaker 1 (50:06):
I did want to ask you your thoughts only because
you did sit here. I'm gonna call you purple, but
you lean a little bit more red and blue. So
and Jason correct me if I say anything wrong here.
Pretty much within seventy two hours of them finding the
white Christian Republican killer of this man who also engraved

(50:31):
the bullets, which I thought was crazy. They have sought
to seek the death penalty for him, and there's pretty
much no trial.

Speaker 2 (50:38):
And mind you, for a lot of.

Speaker 1 (50:40):
Things in any other instance, whether it be a mass shooting,
whether it be a police officer, they often seek innocent
until proven guilty. They seek trials, and now this is
completely done differently. Also, can we play the clip from
the Utah governor and what he had.

Speaker 3 (50:56):
To say right here, because this was a little crazy.
I didn't even hold you. He went in.

Speaker 10 (51:06):
For thirty three hours. I was I was praying that
if this had to happen here, that it wouldn't be
one of us, that somebody drove from another state, somebody
came from another country. Sadly that that that prayer was
not answered the way I had hoped for.

Speaker 1 (51:26):
He said he waited thirty three hours to speak, hoping
it wasn't one of quote unquote us.

Speaker 3 (51:33):
He said, I was.

Speaker 7 (51:34):
Hoping it was, but it wasn't somebody from this state.
And I was hoping it was somebody from this country because.

Speaker 3 (51:40):
You don't want the other mayors.

Speaker 6 (51:41):
He don't want the other governors on social media saying
y'all need to come here of my state, because look
what he did to his state.

Speaker 3 (51:46):
I'm telling you it's in high school.

Speaker 4 (51:48):
Shit, Yeah, where's the National Guard?

Speaker 6 (51:49):
Like like like it's a high school shit, Like I'm
embarrassed as one of y'all.

Speaker 1 (51:53):
Like that's what we Wait, wait, what do you mean,
embarrass one of y'all. I'll be honest with you, and hey,
y'all correct me if I'm wrong.

Speaker 2 (51:58):
Check the SATs.

Speaker 1 (52:00):
Almost every goddamn school shooter that lives Columbine been a
white Christian gun toe in white.

Speaker 4 (52:08):
Around.

Speaker 1 (52:12):
No, I didn't was insane, But that's what I'm saying.
So for white for for Republicans, politicians who want all
these gun laws and all these things, who think that
black people are thumbs and Mexicans are the problems they
worried about.

Speaker 3 (52:29):
Telling you, it's the it's normally.

Speaker 1 (52:32):
White boys from Middle America taking these goddamn guns to
the schools shooting.

Speaker 3 (52:37):
Okay, let me clear. I want to tell you something.

Speaker 6 (52:40):
Charlie Kirk is and remember this day, Charlie Kirk, his
death is going to mean it's like Tupac's.

Speaker 3 (52:45):
Death the black folk. I'll stop it, y'all. Look that
man finished that.

Speaker 6 (52:50):
Listen to me, that man is considered Tupac to that
maga world. He was the young they thought he was
going to be the next president. He was the one
they was lining up to be the pre go look
at Cannae and saying, he's gonna absolutely be the president
of the United States. Trump is funding him. He was
the face of bringing going to think about this, think
about this at the age of thirty.

Speaker 3 (53:09):
You can't do that at fifty.

Speaker 1 (53:11):
I was gonna, say ninety three.

Speaker 6 (53:15):
Coming to college campuses where you're a few not twenty
thirty years, you're a couple of years older, and you're
arguing like an old fashionst white man about the country.
He was to Tupac to them, They're not gonna let this.
So what happened was and what happened was exactly He's
the person that brought in the young folks.

Speaker 3 (53:32):
He's ushering the young folks. Wow, I don't think I
knew that he was.

Speaker 6 (53:35):
Did y'all not see how many people was out there
to hear him argue with kids.

Speaker 3 (53:39):
He is the park of the Republican Party.

Speaker 6 (53:42):
I believe that they're going to they're going to I'm
not They're going to martyr him like we've never seen
before now.

Speaker 2 (53:48):
About to be Fred Hampton.

Speaker 3 (53:49):
Oh no, oh no, he is that him. He's popped.

Speaker 8 (53:53):
And they're allegedly mentoring that kid who during the riots
in Saint Louis Kyle Rittenhouse.

Speaker 4 (54:01):
He's part of that turn.

Speaker 3 (54:02):
Kick the FU out of here.

Speaker 4 (54:03):
Oh yes, they had him speak at their engagements and
all that. Yeah, to be a politician.

Speaker 2 (54:09):
That's the one who drove through the crowd right now.

Speaker 7 (54:12):
He's the one who had the guns.

Speaker 1 (54:13):
He had the gun in Minnesota and Minnesota yet Minnesota,
I don't know. To me, I think I think it's scary.
Me and my friends were just talking about everything that's happened. Bro,
we are only nine months into this motherfucker's presidency.

Speaker 2 (54:30):
Bro, Man like we are nine months.

Speaker 1 (54:34):
Into this motherfucker's presidency. We got another three years of this, three.

Speaker 6 (54:38):
Years and three months, like four months.

Speaker 2 (54:43):
It's scary. It's really scary. It's really scary.

Speaker 1 (54:45):
I will say, in terms of all of the outrage
that I saw around this, we had to be in
a place where we allow people to grieve, to share opinions,
to do all this. But I think my biggest problem,
and it's why I like these conversations. What I see
is people going straight to insult and it's just like
just allow if you don't like the opinion, you don't
have to respond, Like.

Speaker 7 (55:06):
Can I ask you a question about the opinion?

Speaker 3 (55:08):
Now? What?

Speaker 7 (55:09):
Because I think because when you.

Speaker 5 (55:11):
Were setting it up earlier, asked and Ray about people
having empathy right right, And a lot of the empathy
discussion that I see that white people are having is
I may have disagreed with his opinion, but I didn't
want to see you know, that type of violence occur. Oh,
I didn't want to see the videos is yeah. But
my question is, is what he's saying an opinion? Like
like I want to read a quote about this is

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what he said about black women. Black This is from
Charlie Kirk. Yeah, black women. And this is not like
a rare take from him. This is pretty normal for him.
Black women do not have brain processing power to be
taking seriously you have to go steal a white person's slot.
This is him talking about it from ative action, right,
And so my question is do you value that as

(55:55):
an opinion or is that something deep like to me,
that's dehumanizing and I don't view that is like or
just because I disagree with this opinion, I should have
empathy an opinion.

Speaker 2 (56:05):
Here's the thing.

Speaker 1 (56:06):
I may not share it all the time on the
pot like, there's a lot of conversations with my friends
and be like, ooh.

Speaker 4 (56:10):
Bitch, we could never say that on Mike.

Speaker 1 (56:11):
We all dehumanize people often. So that was his opinion
that he had. Did I agree with it?

Speaker 5 (56:17):
Not?

Speaker 1 (56:17):
But have I been or said something that could be
seen as everything under the sun where, oh my god,
you shouldn't think that. Yeah, Like, I'm fucking human him
saying that I don't agree with it. I don't think
he should have been shot and killed for it. I'm
also not someone that believes that no one should be
shot and killed. Kill these goddamn pedophiles, Kill these goddamn rapist,
shoot them.

Speaker 3 (56:36):
I don't give a fuck.

Speaker 1 (56:37):
I believe in the death penalty for for niggas that
do bullshit like that, right, So I also believe that
some people deserve to die.

Speaker 2 (56:43):
I'm not here saying no one deserves to die.

Speaker 1 (56:45):
But for your opinion, I don't think you should die.

Speaker 2 (56:49):
That's not having an opinion is not a crime.

Speaker 3 (56:51):
I'm gonna say this.

Speaker 6 (56:51):
I think I think the reason why he got killed
was because he didn't have empathy. I think I think
that I think that when he was on those college campuses,
when those kids were talking to him, if he wasn't
just so in your face with it, like yeah, black
people and like this and your people and you're violent,
and I think if he was like more human, like, look,
I know you come from a culture, and I understand
he didn't give any grace.

Speaker 3 (57:12):
Right, just like president don't have empathy. That's my point.

Speaker 6 (57:15):
So I think that him not have empathy is to
me is why we should show it to me, right,
because it's like show show them better, right. It's like,
as much as I'm Martin, I mean as much as
I'm Malcolm, Martin did more right because Martin. What the
one thing Martin did that malcol wouldn't do is Martin
would let you punch him in his face? Malcolm, wouldn't
you punched Malcolm in face?

Speaker 3 (57:34):
We fucking you up?

Speaker 6 (57:35):
Martin was like, so Martin was doing them marches when
they're like, think about that. Those images of dogs attaching
that that is what really made people in New York
and California say, hey, these are Americans getting treated by way.

Speaker 5 (57:46):
Charlie Kirk said that nineteen sixty four Civil Rights Act
was a mistake.

Speaker 7 (57:50):
I just want to say these things.

Speaker 3 (57:51):
I don't know too much about the Civil Rights Actor,
know what it was.

Speaker 5 (57:53):
So the Civil Rights Action is what you're talking about, right,
Like everything Martin.

Speaker 3 (57:56):
It ended segregation in the school.

Speaker 5 (57:57):
And so those images that you're talking about, Ray, those
are the things that helped lead to government and a
lot of elected officials changing their mind and voting towards
the nineteen sixty four Civil Rights Act, right, and so again,
because I just want our audience to know who Charlie
Kirki is, because I think the name popped up. It's
a lot of information. People might not know who he is.
Another thing he said is the nineteen sixty four Civil

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Rights Act was a mistake. I just want to be
clear who this is.

Speaker 3 (58:23):
I mean, yeah, I know who he is. I ain't
agree with him.

Speaker 6 (58:26):
He speaks for he speaks for he speaks for demographic
by the way that we know is there.

Speaker 3 (58:32):
Yeah, And I think that's why he's worked.

Speaker 6 (58:34):
I think that's why he So I'll tell you, I
think that's why he worked because he was saying, well,
white people have been wanting to say in America without
being canceled and that's why it worked. That's why I
say he was their pock. He was saying shit to us.
It's crazy as the sound. It's like, who supports this?

Speaker 2 (58:47):
He would have he had support, thirteen thousand kids.

Speaker 3 (58:50):
Outside just to argue with him.

Speaker 6 (58:52):
He was only thirty one guys, you're talking about you're
talking about two thousand and thirty six election. They will
set him up to be the king. And by the way,
and that one bullet stopped it, and that's what it is.
And by the way he got he put that energy
out there if I got to die for this to work,
and it happened, and I feel like they're gonna run with.

Speaker 3 (59:12):
That ship now. He did say some people are going
to he.

Speaker 6 (59:15):
Might have a statue in front of the White House.
The way the way they they really ain't playing. Yeah,
that's a college drop out, a high school drop out,
white kid who started. He's a hustle like anybody else.
But because it's them, it looks it's more organized the
system around it. But at the end of the day,
I'm afraid for our country because I feel like they're
gonna use to get angry. That's why I don't bask
I'm not saying don't go into your room and close

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your door and be like, but don't do it publicly,
because if you do it publicly, you're giving them a
chance to do something publicly back to you. And that's
my only fear and white people and that the mag
of people are way more evil than our people. Now,
we might kill, but we kill emotionally killed. We ain't
calculating to kill. We're not sitting there saying he comes
on December thirteenth, I'm going to be on top of
the building at three pm.

Speaker 3 (59:57):
We don't think like that. We are engraving a bullet.
Engraving the bullet. Catch this. And they said he had
a trans girlfriend. Oh, I think you just had He
had a trans girlfriend.

Speaker 8 (01:00:10):
He lived with so a colleague of ours who who
you know whose trans was worried about that.

Speaker 4 (01:00:16):
It is like watch, oh they are.

Speaker 2 (01:00:18):
Gonna spend, They're gonna.

Speaker 8 (01:00:19):
Spend, and then that they're gonna lean into the liberal
and then.

Speaker 1 (01:00:23):
Oh yeah, they're gonna make they're gonna make it seem
like he was liberal and against everything.

Speaker 3 (01:00:26):
Like eleventh They was like, had nothing to do with
so Donald. Get him to be fair.

Speaker 1 (01:00:31):
They might be able to spend that because his own
daddy turned him in, so you know, and the Christian
Bible tote in Republican republic, and so the way that
the daddy turned him in might be because he was
liberal leaning.

Speaker 2 (01:00:47):
I mean, they're gonna be able to happen.

Speaker 1 (01:00:49):
There might be a narrative to spend there, which is
why you see the white magas online like We're gonna
come and get you.

Speaker 2 (01:00:55):
It's fucking bullshit.

Speaker 1 (01:00:56):
What is your final thoughts on having an opinion and
everybody having their selective outrage around even some of these topics.

Speaker 3 (01:01:03):
I'm I'm gonna talk directly to the people.

Speaker 6 (01:01:05):
How someone's opinion affects you is a mirror to you
if someone like what I mean by that is like
I see things on the line all day of people
saying dispectful things. It never bothers me because I know
it doesn't affect me. And not only that, I'm happy
in life, like I'm doing well for myself. It goes
back to high school. The kids that them kids that
was the top fucking five percent. They wasn't They was

(01:01:27):
in the front of the class. Why we in the
back talking laugh and they in the front doing their work.
My only thing I'm saying is that I just feel
like we just gotta calm down.

Speaker 3 (01:01:35):
Guys. It's just crazy.

Speaker 6 (01:01:37):
Listen, how you see emotion says more about you. That
kid that killed Charlie said more about him. He was
the one probably laying with a trans woman feeling like
this dude is talking directly to me, I'm gonna kill
that motherfuck.

Speaker 3 (01:01:49):
And that's exactly what happened. But it was the mirror
of the person.

Speaker 6 (01:01:53):
So if you're offended by anything I said, I asked
you to try to look at yourself and say, why
am I offended? Because literally, I've had people call me
about things said about me, and it was like, this
person said this, and you noticed, Mike, you managed me.

Speaker 3 (01:02:04):
They said, I'm like, why do you care? It's not true.
It's not true.

Speaker 6 (01:02:07):
It's great they said this about you. I don't give
a fuck. It is not true. The more I entertain it,
the more I'm giving it energy. That that ship dies
like I fire with no oxygen, that shit gonna die.
That's what I would say. Stop getting caught.

Speaker 2 (01:02:18):
Up, Stop getting caught up the ship.

Speaker 7 (01:02:21):
One last point, one last point, go ahead, one last point.
I'm being journalist. Jason too much today.

Speaker 5 (01:02:25):
But Jason like that, Well, you gave it to me
like three episodes, Jason, But I think too because again,
whether he was with the trans woman or not, I
don't know. But what is coming up and you mentioned
it with like the narratives and how it's being spun
by by them, and by them we mean, like you know,
right leaning.

Speaker 3 (01:02:44):
Folks also to there he was left leaning.

Speaker 5 (01:02:48):
There's a lot of information that's coming out that the
kid who shot him they shot him because he was
not right leaning enough. Right and so there's there's a
lot of reporting that's coming out there group that there's
another group called the Groyper and they're saying because Charlie
Kirk was not right leaning enough, that's why he got shot.
That's why the bullet casings were engraved, because they think
that he wasn't they thought that he was too sympathetic

(01:03:09):
to the middle, even though he said the comments that you.

Speaker 1 (01:03:12):
Know, I mean, my my final thought is a lot
of I was gonna say, I can't stand all the
goddamn conspiracy theorist of ship just.

Speaker 3 (01:03:20):
Let the ship play out.

Speaker 8 (01:03:21):
What's alarming is that he just mentioned another group of
think of think Dick Rippers.

Speaker 1 (01:03:26):
That's what you called him, the Dick Rippers, Dick ripers, Okay,
the Dick Griffers.

Speaker 4 (01:03:33):
That's right.

Speaker 1 (01:03:37):
Where could everybody listen to your takes? You have a
ton of content for we going to tune into. Let
everybody know where they could listen to you support you.

Speaker 6 (01:03:44):
Just just look up at Ray Daniels Presents. I'm pretty
sure I'm there. If you go to Twitter, you go
to YouTube, you go anywhere, just such Ray dwnis Presents.
Go to your web, you listen to your podcasts, type
in Ray Daniels Presents and you'll find me there.

Speaker 1 (01:03:57):
And also because I love the content I put over there.
The clip that we played earlier was from the Radar Report,
which is on Patreon.

Speaker 3 (01:04:03):
It's Patreon exclusive. Well no not, the whole thing is
as alive.

Speaker 6 (01:04:08):
I get Patreon the experience and I cut it up
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