Ep. 32 | Mental Health vs The Monster in Your Pocket - Selective Ignorance with Mandii B

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hey guys, welcome to another episode of Selective Ignorance. However,

(00:03):
before we get to this week's episode, I want to
remind you guys to purchase my book No Holds Barred,
a dual manifesto of sexual exploration and power, So feel
free to go to your local bookstores preferably queer owned,
black owned, or woman owned to support them, but also
just click the button on Amazon, Barnes and Nobles, or

(00:23):
wherever you read your books. Again. That is No Holds Barred,
a dual manifesto of sexual exploration and power written by
yours truly and my co host of the Decisions Decisions podcasts, Weezy.
Make sure y'all get that. Now let's get to this
week's episode. This is Mandy B. Welcome to Selective Ignorance,
a production of The Black Effect Podcast Network and Iart Radio.

(00:44):
It's your Girl, Mandy B. Welcome back to another episode
of Selective Ignorance, the podcast where we admit loudly that
we see everything and then we for attend that we didn't. Today,
let's talk about the monster in our pockets now not
do it at the top of the money. Talking about
social media, the apps that you swear you're just checking

(01:05):
real quick, and then suddenly it's two am and you're
mad at somebody you don't know. Oh god, and you've
aged about three years in the process. Here's the question, though,
at what point do we say enough is enough? When
do we log off? Close the app? In a minute? Yep?
Maybe the Internet isn't a real place, So why am
I letting it wreck my life emotions? Because one minute

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you're laughing at a meme and the next year is
spiraling over some stranger's hot take, or whether Beyonce can
sing or not, whether Bad Boney is Mexican or Puerto Rican,
or the ice is going to be outside of the
super Bowl or not. Yes, I'm referencing one of our
recent episodes. Here's the question, though, when do we break
this cycle? Right? We consume, we scroll, we laugh, we cry,

(01:48):
we rage, comment, and then we wonder why our moods
feel like they're on shuffle. The wildest part, we let
it happen to ourselves. We let timelines, trending topics, and
troll accounts have more influence on our mental health than
actual people in our real lives. And yes, y'all, I'm
a victim to it too. A cop on this goddamn
microphone almost weekly and cuts y'all out for saying something

(02:09):
about me that I disagree with. But today we're diving
into it. From the viral stories that make you question
humanity to the tweets that have you rethinking your sanity,
we're unpacking how the things we consume online latch onto
our moods and how to know when it's time to
pull it all back, because if we don't learn to
set the boundary, we'll keep living in a world where

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our happiness is held hostage by Wi fi in these
goddamn apps. And you can't blame Elin or Trump for everything. Okay, Anyways, y'all,
I'm diving into it this week with my super produces
A King and Puerto Rican Jessome. I don't even know

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if Jesson that some more Italian than Puerto Rican, but
I'm even that. Listen, I was in I was in
the south of France saying gracias, so I give up?
Why are you looking at me like that?

Speaker 2 (03:10):
She started the entire series what podcast show in patois
episode something?

Speaker 3 (03:19):
And now we're doing France.

Speaker 1 (03:21):
You know, and I thought it was Spinyo, you know,
in honor of the Super Bowl. I don't even know
what that accident is. I'm really bad with accents, and.

Speaker 3 (03:28):
Apparently Puerto Rican don't do that. When I first met
you know what the problem is that?

Speaker 1 (03:34):
No, it's given racism. No, you were called ice on
me not knowing nothing.

Speaker 4 (03:39):
They said, they said, Mandy's like the Vin Diesel podcast.

Speaker 3 (03:43):
You could be anything.

Speaker 1 (03:44):
Now you know, that's a goddamn lie, y'all. She was
gonna be ignorant early.

Speaker 2 (03:50):
She had all the characteristics, light skin, she was residing
in the Bronx, so automatically it's.

Speaker 3 (03:56):
Like, okay, she's automatically that My thing was issue dominic
quarto Rican.

Speaker 1 (04:00):
First off, if I'm in the Bronx, the bitch could
have been on gun Hill Road with the with the Jamaicans. Okay,
thank you very much, like both of y'all.

Speaker 2 (04:09):
Actually, because it was you and if you use by yourself,
maybe the laws of probability would have been in that favor.

Speaker 1 (04:16):
When we ever into the room together, did you ever
hear me say.

Speaker 2 (04:19):
A lot when when you're before, before they spoke, they spoke,
All right, we are.

Speaker 1 (04:29):
Leading into the ignorance here.

Speaker 3 (04:32):
That's a great question. Is that a Florida thing, monster
in your pocket? The rent?

Speaker 1 (04:37):
Is that a Florida You don't so you don't know
about the rent being dude.

Speaker 5 (04:41):
I know it's crazy because y'all niggas wanted to pause
me and I can talk about monsters being in pockets.

Speaker 1 (04:49):
Are y'all mad because y'all monster?

Speaker 3 (04:53):
Then because it's you monster.

Speaker 4 (04:56):
But then when you said not the rent about social media,
and I was like yo, I was like, people called
the rent the monster in your pocket?

Speaker 1 (05:04):
I don't know. No, I mean, I mean it's a
little it's a little figure of speech. I mean, the
monster in your pocket is rent because it's draining a
hole in your pocket.

Speaker 3 (05:12):
I'm not have to go on chet chept and check that out.

Speaker 1 (05:14):
Here we go go ask chat. I'll be asking a
chat everything. I mean, you Aki who edits all the episodes?
Literally said bro? He said? He said, Bro, that episode
last week with you and Carlo, he said, I went
from being mad at you to being mad at her
and didn't know who I was more mad at.

Speaker 3 (05:32):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (05:32):
Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (05:33):
So when Carla was on the on the episode before
the Purple Party heard Ray Daniels was on there, they
was crazy, both of them. But but then the one
today I'm going not today. When I was doing.

Speaker 3 (05:43):
I'm like, what the fuck? Who is you know?

Speaker 2 (05:45):
You just leaning into your you just it sounded like
you don't want no parts of what religion has to offer.

Speaker 3 (05:52):
We haven't done the premises of hope.

Speaker 1 (05:54):
We're gonna have to do a religious episode because so
and I guess we'll start with the little with the Well,
if you guys listened to last week I talked about
going to a making sure to have a guest, We're
gonna have to have a guest gues like the one
that went to jail, or one that, like she said, convert,

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Like was it a coon or were they born into it?

Speaker 3 (06:19):
Well, I mean all religions have niggas who went to jail.

Speaker 1 (06:25):
I'm not saying that. I'm talking about did he find
religion in jail? That is different than being born and
raised in the church.

Speaker 3 (06:31):
Find religion in jail is not legitimate.

Speaker 1 (06:34):
You're not You're not gonna sit here at the top
of the episode. I don't want to piss the people off.
When we talk about my health, you want to I'm
stressed up. Everybody is poor, Okay, so you know what's crazy?
I aligned kind of when when somebody goes to jail
and finds church is the same way I be viewing
bitches who break up with a nigga and then find

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God like like when you have to and to me,
when you when it stems from you being at the bottom.

Speaker 3 (07:02):
I found Jesus today, you know what I mean?

Speaker 1 (07:06):
I mean, and I do believe in people being able
to shift in their journeys whatever that.

Speaker 2 (07:11):
Looks like, and things will spook you out to find
a spiritual source.

Speaker 3 (07:16):
Oh that's why questions.

Speaker 1 (07:17):
I ain't gonna hold you. That's why it maybe mad
I text one of my little booze because he asked
me if I listened to the Lucci album and I
was like, and not really a fan. I know he
did time and niggas tried to kill him, so I
knew there was a hit on his life. And literally
he's asking me about this album and I was like,
all right, I'm gonna go check it out. I go

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on the internet. Y'all know that the phones be listening
to us. The monster in your pocket, you know they'd
be listening to you. So the first thing on my
timeline is this fat fuck no talking to Zoe Spencer,
a streamer telling this little girl that she need to
get her titties done, sitting there looking like a raggedy ass.
Fuck what so I'm like, bruh, there was a hit

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on your life. You went to jail, you got out,
you got a second chance at life, and you out
here gonna spend spend your life living telling bitches they
gotta get their titties done when you got bigger titties
than she do.

Speaker 4 (08:10):
Maybe, but that's what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (08:14):
Maybe he's a health Maybe he's a health avoge.

Speaker 1 (08:16):
Okay, well she didn't. Let's be like you leaning into
like she beat cancer. It's crazy also, but Jesus Christ.

Speaker 6 (08:24):
Though.

Speaker 2 (08:26):
They know this, it is fuck shit, but they just
want to entertain. We're talking about it, all right.

Speaker 1 (08:33):
I guess it didn't work because it said it made
me be like, oh, I ain't listened to I ain't
listening to nothing. That man gotta say, like, it's why
I be mad. Bro, I used to love Thug. I
need Thug to just go wear dresses and be quiet again. Baby,
I don't want to hear nothing but you on your
like and we'll get into a clip from Thug later.
We're gonna get into it, but I did want to

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start off with like a quick update. And because I
have journalism Jason here, Weezi and I actually had a
difference of opinion on what took place last week. Both
she and I were honored at the Sheen Magazine Awards
here in Atlanta, Georgia. It was cool. And while I'm
not gonna shit on the full production of it, and

(09:16):
when I say that, I'm just gonna briefly let y'all
know Weezy was flew down here for this event. We
had a car service pick us up, and for whatever reason,
the hostess decided to say, unfortunately, they're not here to
accept their award tonight, and the whole audience had to
look at us like, ain't that you ain't y'all here like?
And it became just real Opograd. It was really bad.

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But what I wanted to lean on because I'm there's
a teetering conversation of whether what we do as podcasters
are journalists, right. And so we get on the red
carpet and when we check in, first off, let me
back up a little bit. So we get there and

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there's a red car carpet line, the red carpet line
is probably like twenty people, and I go straight to
the front, not only because I don't like lines, but whoa,
these people are probably more so attendees. We're actually being
honored tonight. I'd like to go back into the green
room and sit down because it's chaos out here, right.
So we finally get on the carpet. When you get
on the carpet, there's someone that holds a sign with

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your first name, last name, what you are, especially if
Getty is on the carpet right, just so that they
know where to place you. So we're going down the carpet.
It was very unorganized. It wasn't like previous red carpets
I had been to before. But we go down the line,
we take our pictures. At the end of it, it's
press and this is where it gets a little chaotic.
Now I do before I get into talking shit and

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asking Jason his experience. So Neighborhood Talk is the first
people we talked to off the carpet and shout out
to Neighborhood Talk because baby, they immediately know who we are,
start asking us about how the rebrand's been going, like
you know, literally, like you know, it's dope that y'all
are here, and like literally shout out to neighborhood talk.

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They did they god damn research, they knew what it was.
So the next person we go in line too, seemed
almost like they just wanted to drop, and so it
was really weird because what the fuck? So we go
and they put the mic out and say, you know,
tell everybody your name, where you're from, and why are

(11:25):
you excited about being here tonight? And so we literally
had to be like, well, we're being honored, and where
this and that? Right? The next person and this is
where by this point, I'm fucking fed up. The next
person he comes real planpoint. Hey, ladies, y'all is sown beautiful.
Oh my god, do you guys mind talking real quick? Like,
you know, let's get a little quick thing if you eat,

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We're like, of course, of course, of course. So he goes,
he takes his little mic, and he introduces himself to
the camera. He hands me a little mic and then goes,
now you tell everybody who you are, and I say,
actually it would be really nice. Could you injured? He
your audience? Hey, maybe he looks at us, He looks
at his producer and he's like, and in the moment,

(12:07):
I just be like, you know what, Han, since you
don't know who we are, it's fine, and I hand
him his mic back and say bye, and I completely
did the interview. So we end up having to go
to another portion where it ended up being the same,
but in that moment, Weezy chose to stay and defended
this person not knowing us. Now we end up listen, so, oh,

(12:31):
I ain't gonna hold you. At this point, I was like,
if it if it looked like a bitch, cool because
because hear me out, not that I think everybody knows me.
Let's be very clear. I don't think that. However, if
you were at an event and you were on the
red carpet, bro, I expect professional etiquette. And here's my thing.
I don't like extending grace bringing that hole to the cookout.

(12:56):
I don't like extending grace to people because it makes
me feel like, wait, if I've been on red carpets
and even ABN Awards, we got stopped by people who
kind of were familiar at least knew that we were nominated.
X y Z Element of p I've worked with the
MTV Movie Awards. They knew who I was for my
my dating show. I don't like that we have to

(13:17):
extend the grace for our community to show up unprofessionally.

Speaker 2 (13:21):
I don't like that so y'all was on the cover
of that.

Speaker 1 (13:29):
When you walk in the room, our goddamn cover is
as soon as you walk in, you ready. The VIP
bags that were being handed out, it was our cover.
Bro Me and Wheezy actually looked like our pictures. We
looked glammed up the night. So I was just like, damn.
So it went into well, in that case, you know,
we can blame so Weezy's idea of it was blame production.

(13:52):
They weren't given one sheets. Now let me lean into
my first time on the red carpet, because then she
also tried to use the exq of his age. Guess
my first red carpet and my age? You ready, I
was twenty years old. Guess what carpet? Oh baby, the
Spies and oh baby, Big one, Big One. This was

(14:16):
twoy eleven. This was the year that the Dallas Mavericks
won the National Championship ring. I think they beat Miami.
This was the NBA Finals in Miami. They beat Lebron
and them, and I'm a part of the SPI's I
was credentialed media at the time under Black Sports Online

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shout out to Robert Lattu, and I went in there
bought my own little camera had and this is Mike's
before you even know, Like, this is twenty eleven, y'all.
So this isn't where my interviews are straight just going
to Instagram. This is I'm chopping up this footage and
using it. I'm taking my own pictures with whatever phone
I had at the time. And when I tell you

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I know basketball, what I do, I don't know is
every other sport that's there. And guess what I did
before anybody walked up or as people were goddamn walking. Look,
I'm asking the people around who are they? I'm googling,
and I'm making sure before they get to me, I'm
able to question them about them because in no way
am I going to sit here and be talking to
someone that is actually giving me their time, because these

(15:22):
are the slubs here, right, So I'm actually interviewing people.
I want to know the best questions to ask them
and what they have going on. How as the people
being honored, one of only five other people being honored,
and the people who just graced the cover of this
entire magazine awards not recognized by any of the press
on the red carpet, And.

Speaker 4 (15:44):
So I mean, that's that's all them, that that's on
that's on the I call them journalists loosely because you know,
I don't know what they are, but that's on them.
You know, every every red carpet you don't get a
one sheet.

Speaker 3 (15:55):
If you do, that's nice to get.

Speaker 1 (15:56):
It's nice to get.

Speaker 3 (15:57):
At the end of the day, it's like you have
to get.

Speaker 4 (16:00):
You have to hunt what you kill, right, And so
it's like if you're a reporter, you have to report.
If you're a content creator, you have to create, and
so the onus is on you to do it. So
in that situation, and it's so easy, like you're literally
easy being honored. So like unless you just show it
up five minutes ago because somebody just said, yo, is
you free? You want to cover this right now? Like
you have to have some inkling of like what are

(16:21):
you stepping on to? What are you about to see tonight?
And if it's the honorees, like you should have like
two or three questions already.

Speaker 3 (16:27):
How does it feel to be honored.

Speaker 1 (16:29):
You know, no, no, no, do you know what we
gotta ask tonight? What are you most excited for tonight?

Speaker 3 (16:34):
Nigga questions?

Speaker 4 (16:35):
Yeah, you know, that's that's a that's a good alice
starter if it's like you can get that, and then
maybe they can like pivot for a second question or
third question. Like I'm not mad at that the bad
questions as much as it's like, tell us who you are,
because I don't know who you are?

Speaker 1 (16:51):
Who you are?

Speaker 2 (16:52):
But see what's the I'm thinking as you as you're
talking about it, what's the alternative? The alternative would be
that said quote unquote to you a journalist, right, they
would either have to take the l and not interview.

Speaker 3 (17:04):
You, and that happened, and then and then what will happened?

Speaker 2 (17:07):
And then what will happen is on posts the next
day when they capturing all the assets, Yo, wh didn't
get many? And weezy you many? And then the response
will possibly be oh who's that? Oh you don't know
who they are, but you earlier that's experience, right. But

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the owners, I believe goes on both the journalists and
the entity.

Speaker 3 (17:30):
Well what is it that you?

Speaker 2 (17:33):
What is did you see what is it that you
see in said person that feels that they are qualified
to do that?

Speaker 1 (17:40):
And I think that's how I looked at it right
now from an emotional pre production.

Speaker 3 (17:44):
Make sure you go. You know who's the These are the.

Speaker 2 (17:46):
Five that we're honoring, period, it's on them.

Speaker 1 (17:51):
And I think that that's my thing. I think there
there was a disconnect between me being emotional about someone
not knowing who I am. No, it's not that. But
I've done carpets.

Speaker 3 (18:00):
I've been I've been on the media.

Speaker 1 (18:02):
I've been on the media side whenever, like, you know,
we book guests, what do we do too? Sometimes I'll send,
like Jason, you'll ask for this social media, let me
see what they're talking about. You have to do the
work because to me, it is a form of respect, baby,
not only not only a respect for whoever you're interviewing
your guests, but it's also like, uh, it's to me
a level of professionalism that I think has been lost

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amongst us by so much.

Speaker 4 (18:26):
And yeah, I was gonna say also too, like red
carpets for people who don't know if you're listening, like
red carpets.

Speaker 3 (18:31):
Vary right, like somebody more like chaos.

Speaker 4 (18:33):
Some of them are quiet, but like the thing is,
none of it is exclusive. It's not like an exclusive
interview you booked like you know. It's it's it's a
communal aspect of things that's happening. And there's plenty of
times where people will turn to the next cruise right.

Speaker 3 (18:46):
Next to them for the next outlet and be like, yo,
who's that? Where did I know them from?

Speaker 4 (18:52):
You look like down on your phone, you grab your
quick research and boom like there's no It's like, there's
no harm in doing that because it's like a king
saying like that. It's the actual part of the work.
You have to be quick on your feet and you
have to get it well.

Speaker 1 (19:03):
And what I realized too that people were asking, which
I thought was crazy, was for drops. So you're not
asking anything about what I'm doing. You want me to
say who I am and what I do and then
shout your pop, what are you doing?

Speaker 5 (19:17):
You got to give me something question, give me a job.
Let them know, got to take me on a date first,
don't got to take me on a date. Niggas One
day Dick played under the table.

Speaker 1 (19:26):
They don't even want to feed you. They just like
hear a nigga play with my dick, Like what are
we talking about? It was crazy? So yeah, it was
it was like you know, for me, I I a
bit internalized it. Yet again, I think this year has
has felt like who as I'm being awarded for something
I'm taking, you know, I'm knocked down on my feet

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ten steps back, and I do want to shout out
Barry because and even kind of what Wayne's had a
couple of episodes ago, like in order to be seen once,
you got to be in fifteen different places, right, And
so a part of me was like, well, all right,
I got a lot of work to do, That's all I.

Speaker 4 (20:03):
Just But I also think too, like you like you
do this right, Like you watch a ton of pod
like you listen to a bunch of podcasts, You're checking
everything out online. Like even when we talk about like
this podcast, we talk about like we're building this. This,
This is not horrible, this is not like you know
ful right, this yeah, something different, Yeah, we're building it.
And I think it's less like sure, there's some like

(20:24):
humility of like I gotta keep grinding and doing this,
but I also I think you view it like very
much like if you want this, like you gotta grind,
you gotta do this, Like what is we doing?

Speaker 1 (20:32):
I mean, I think it goes back to like I would.
I guess I want more for people than they want
for themselves. But also I really like love what the
fuck I do? I like this space, whether it be podcasting.
So when when podcasters even invite me on their podcast
and all they want to do is talk about pegging.
Oh nah, bro, I ain't coming on. They are like, Bro,

(20:53):
I like, don't limit me to that, like you know,
and so it's just it's just frustrating because I'm like, bro,
if you don't even know I have selective ignorance, I'm
really not coming on, Like you don't know. I'm a
New York Times bestseller. I'm really not going to you know,
you know what I mean. And I got my own radio,
so now I'm really not coming on. Like I do
a lot of work.

Speaker 2 (21:11):
When the pandemic happened, right, I notice people searching for
jobs and trying to figure it out why it was
at home. And one of the things they did they
were going Instagram, Twitter or x now and they would
change their bio. Everybody became a content creator. Everybody became
an executive producer of nothing. It was just all these
titles of nothingness. So I think that this is the

(21:32):
this is the end result of that. You know where
you got said journalists, right, Jason. There's people that I
know as journalists because they're documenting the definition of journalists
to journal document culture, whatever it is, news, sports, music,
whatever it is. These guys, these people aren't documenting. They're

(21:52):
just there for the look. Yeah, you know what I mean.
At some point we either had to reset this whole
shit continue to reset, because I think we in the reset.

Speaker 3 (22:00):
And and just like.

Speaker 2 (22:02):
You was able to mention all those qualifications, all those accolades,
like if you're not there that on that bar, you
can't call yourself that creator or or you can.

Speaker 1 (22:10):
Be someone really green, well you could be someone really green.
But if I see you out and you are executing
your ship in a professional manner, Bro, I respect that. Like,
don't come out here and just think somebody owe you
a conversation because you're gonna throw them in their base.
Bro asking for a drop was grave.

Speaker 3 (22:29):
Drop only drop crazy? Well, and yes, Mandy and Weezy
and they're like, oh Mandy and Wheezy.

Speaker 1 (22:37):
We'll see maybe maybe maybe they don't know Mandy and
Wheezy or I don't know child. Well, we're gonna bring
it back. I don't think I've done it for a
little bit, especially here with my producers. We are going
to double down or take it back. And have I
taken back anything yet?

Speaker 3 (22:54):
No, of course not.

Speaker 2 (22:56):
But Jason, how much of her not taking it back?
You think that's just her be a stubborn.

Speaker 4 (23:01):
It's like when we had salary and he was like,
my brand is I can't I can't take it back
again my brand?

Speaker 3 (23:05):
Right?

Speaker 1 (23:08):
Okay, what I have to say here?

Speaker 3 (23:10):
You want to set it up first?

Speaker 1 (23:11):
Okay, yeah, well I'm looking. I'm looking at the clip
now and so it looks like you're pulling a clip.
By the way, if you guys have it yet. I
was on the Knee to Know podcasts with save Von
and Alex a couple of weeks ago. We did talk
about the Cardi album, but they also decided to ask
me this, so let's see, all.

Speaker 6 (23:29):
Right, one thing you love and one thing you hate
about gen Z.

Speaker 3 (23:34):
The thing that.

Speaker 7 (23:34):
I love about gen Z they're much more open to
not leaning into super traditional ways and mindsets of thinking.
And then the thing that I hate about gen Z
stop making all these dances.

Speaker 3 (23:47):
Like what you do as.

Speaker 1 (23:49):
A non dancer.

Speaker 4 (23:51):
Take the library, right, I can do that.

Speaker 1 (24:02):
The hardest one with y'all bringing the Harlem shake up
to me, I would say, that's the thing I hate everything. Okay,
I mean, I clearly stand by this. It's crazy because
one of the things that I didn't mention that I
that I hate about gen Zers was actually kind of
a little bit about my right now. I do think
that they're lazy and entitled as well, but in terms

(24:24):
of how they show up in relationships, they're a little
bit more open to breaking the norms, and clearly they're
a lot more in tune with their mental health. I
think so.

Speaker 3 (24:35):
I think think they do that because that's part of
being lazy.

Speaker 2 (24:38):
Wait, what do you mean they're not going to do
They're not gonna they're not gonna go to they're not
going to extra mile right.

Speaker 1 (24:44):
Oh, you think you think them being lazy is tied
to knowing about their mental health.

Speaker 3 (24:51):
I don't think they know about that. Ship.

Speaker 1 (24:53):
Oh.

Speaker 2 (24:53):
I think they're very anti social Okay, they are that
and the pandemic, the pandemic dis damage. These are kids
who became adults and missed that four year block of interaction.

Speaker 1 (25:06):
Oh yeah, I couldn't imagine that didn't get graduation job hunt.

Speaker 2 (25:10):
I'm looking yeah, I'm looking at how kids are of
job age and they're applying and they're expecting, and they're
quitting out the out the gate. They're like giving up,
like all right, you don't get an answer back, you
keep pushing.

Speaker 1 (25:23):
Let me let me ask both of y'all questions, because
y'all real old in.

Speaker 3 (25:28):
Terms of you're about to be a birthday coming and.

Speaker 1 (25:34):
I'm about to be twenty five, okay, So let me
ask you then if we're leaning on even this topic,
and I want to compare y'all generation y'all are y'all
y'all ate millennials right, y'all the ones above it?

Speaker 3 (25:47):
No, yeah, I'm telling it.

Speaker 1 (25:49):
Yeah, that's what I thought.

Speaker 3 (25:50):
I don't know what gen X I guess Yeah, how
are you?

Speaker 1 (25:54):
Okay? X? So we got Gen X millennials and we're
both talking about.

Speaker 3 (25:58):
X Y Z.

Speaker 2 (26:01):
A.

Speaker 3 (26:01):
Can you could be a zennial too? That's what you're
the last in between?

Speaker 2 (26:08):
Because of character though, but because I reli.

Speaker 1 (26:18):
Browser tabs, yo, thiggas want to be young, so bad
but anyway, so let me let me ask y'all then
if y'all can go back with the knowledge you have
now about how these companies don't really give a fuck
about you, about PTO, about really like this idea of
going the extra mile and showing up every day on time,

(26:40):
or showing in early and staying late and giving giving
a company all you got, even at the expense of
your mental health. If you knew what you knew today,
how you operated back then in whatever settings that made
you show up that way, would you do it the
same way and why or would you show up kind
of like these gen zs where no, this doesn't feel

(27:01):
good for me. I don't like it here, it's making
me miserable. I need to stop focus on me and
go somewhere that makes me happy, which is kind of
how they operate, you know what I mean.

Speaker 4 (27:11):
I appreciate that, yet you do gen Z is like
the boundaries generation. Yeah, boundaries, and I would I would
still do it the same way and still hustle hard
and and like grind it out, but I would also
be cognizant like to your point, like I would have
tried to learn the lesson that like they don't care
about you earlier and really like rallied my peers to

(27:32):
start something on our own more right, Like there's an
expiration on this because they don't care about us. So
like let's get in, get bread, get the experience, and
a five years from now, like let's start.

Speaker 1 (27:42):
You know, I definitely think that there was a brain.

Speaker 3 (27:44):
I wouldn't I wouldn't have looked for like the comfort.

Speaker 1 (27:47):
I think that's the thing. There was a brainwashing element
that if you do everything right, that you're gonna retire
with the money you need to and that this company
would look out for you, right Like there was almost
a false sense of loyalty to a company that I
think even we as millennials adopted. We believe that, which
is why we're all in fucking debt right now getting
all the degrees that people said, if you get these
degrees and get these type of jobs, you'll line yourself

(28:10):
up to be perfect or and millennials are the most
over educated and least employed generation that we've seen. And
so for me, I mean there is an element of laziness, yes,
especially when I talk about interns, because for you to
come and want to get paid top dollar when you
don't know the craft or don't have a skill is tricky.
But I also understand kind of demanding your worth and

(28:32):
knowing that these fucking companies will even do a goddamn
U free.

Speaker 4 (28:37):
Yeah, but I also think there's a difference between demanding
your worth and like wanting to be paid for your potential.

Speaker 3 (28:42):
Right.

Speaker 4 (28:42):
And that's the thing that I was worry about, like
with young people, right, Like there's and also too, like
a king mentioned it, like missing that four years of interaction,
whether it was like your high school years or your
college year.

Speaker 3 (28:54):
Development. Yeah, there's life development. And you know life development includes.

Speaker 4 (28:57):
Setbacks, yes, right, like setbacks break adversity, right, and and
how you adapt to that so that way when you
get into the working force, you know, like you'll know
how to respond to like challenges, right, and like you
know you'll you'll also you'll be well equipped for like
your first like professional heartbreak, like you know, like we
all have. Like you'll get your career and you say,
like I'm following in it. This is where I wanted

(29:19):
to be. And then and efdably you'll get fired because
this is companies and that's just America. But you'll have
your heart laid off. Even better, you'll probably get laid off.
And it's like I thought I was going to be
here for five and ten years, and next year, like
I did a year at the place, and you know,
now you're like that affects you for your next job role,
and you know you have to you have to be

(29:40):
able to learn how to like take the punches and
keep going. Not not to like simplify it, but you
know there's an element of like you have to manage
yourself and it's not all about your comfort at the beginning.
There's a trade off of sort of like what you're
trying to take away, which is experience.

Speaker 1 (29:55):
Well, it's interesting because a lot of people, well you know,
we've that conversation.

Speaker 3 (30:00):
What have you.

Speaker 1 (30:04):
For y'all listeners? And if your job isn't giving you
the money, unfortunately you have to stay because the job
markets hold on to that job. I would never tell
nobody to quit a job. I wouldn't tell a friend
to stop selling pusy. I wouldn't tell a drug dealer
stop selling drugs. I'm not telling anybody to stop making
the money how they're making it right now, because maybe

(30:26):
it's tricky out here it's very, very tricky. Well, let's
get down for some ignorance. And in this way, it's
gonna be also the way in which we show up
ignorantly to ourselves, not realizing that we are torturing ourselves
by digging through the clips online and what they have
to say. But I'm gonna have a little phone with this.
I'm gonna drop some clips that maybe you have come
across your timeline, and then we're gonna talk about it,

(30:47):
and then I'm gonna talk about how it probably triggered you.
So where do we want to start first? Can I
just trigger the ladies first? Actually, because here's the problem. No, no, no, okay, no,
I'm not going to tell you why I'm about to
trigger you, but I would love for you all to
listen to this clip. Shout out to Trill. He joins me.

(31:08):
On tonight's conversations, you have most likely, if you like
hearing men that know how to speak, well, you have
most likely seen his clips. And I want to play
this clip because it did. It did stir up an
emotion in me as soon as I heard it. So Jason,
run the clip. Please.

Speaker 3 (31:28):
Here we go.

Speaker 6 (31:29):
A woman really like you because when she want to
spend every second of her free time with you, every
second of it. No, it's addration, like almost to an
irrational sense. You understand what I'm saying, Like she could
get an invite to go out with the girls. Nah,
I want to spend some time with my man. I
want to lay up under my man. I want to

(31:51):
talk to my man. I want to see my man,
Like that's the energy that she coming with. You understands
so many men out here dating women. You know, he's
struggling to get on the phone, like he's struggling to
link up order to go out on a date, Like
he's struggling to get his text returned in a timely fashion.
Like that's how you know you day. No woman who

(32:13):
don't really rock with you like that, because a woman
who like you, she gonna be callingstand like there's nothing
more that she want to do after she take care
of her business and spend time with her man. So
if that's not the energy you're getting, Like if you're
struggling to link you struggling to talk to her, you
struggling to spend time with her, it's time for you

(32:35):
to find another woman because she ain't.

Speaker 3 (32:37):
It wa he's not wrong. I don't think he's wrong.
I do think that this hold on this.

Speaker 2 (32:47):
I think if somebody interested in someone, that the natural
thing is they are going to occupy time that whether
whether his phone calls, whether in person, the desire and
the curio to be there.

Speaker 3 (33:01):
You are watering the issue.

Speaker 1 (33:04):
You are watering it down. This man said, if her
friends invite her out, It's like, this is to me
a form of how the internet will brainwash you to
make you feel No. This is this is brainwashing one
on one. This is pure tactic, pure tactic manipulation on
a man who literally wants to isolate a woman or

(33:27):
make a woman feel as though if she is not
all about her man, then she isn't really showing up
up for the man. Hear me out. He says in
there that a woman that's really into you gonna call
out on her friends to come be with you as
a man. A woman wants to spend all of her
free time with her man. A man, you're not gonna

(33:49):
have a problem getting her on the phone. All these things.
Mind you, guess what we gotta do is women pay
our goddamn bills because y'all ain't provided us no more
so you telling me that I have to overcompensate myself
to be only with you on the outside of me
working whatever job I have because I'm paying my own bills, right,
And then for you to even manipulate any woman watching

(34:09):
that to believe that, damn, my man's not gonna believe
I'm into him if I hang with my friends, Like,
there's a part of our mental health that has to
exist in our relationships that allow us to still be
ourselves and not lose who we are. Our friends and
hanging out with them is a part of us still
existing in our own world as a as a woman

(34:32):
being in any relationship, if a man tells you you
have to live in his skin to show him that
you love him or you really fuck with him, I
have a problem with that being the rhetoric because what
it does is it isolates you as a woman and
essentially will eventually turn you into being someone that you're
not because you're living now for this man, you're not
even living for yourself.

Speaker 3 (34:52):
Is he suggesting that that is the requirement and that
story right?

Speaker 2 (34:55):
Because because I was just saying that the natural desire,
I'm not saying that that.

Speaker 1 (34:59):
Is actually he said, do you know how.

Speaker 3 (35:04):
Suffocating? No one should be suffocating.

Speaker 1 (35:06):
Any What was the question there though, or what was
the caption? Literally was do you know how a woman?
How you know as a man that a woman really
likes you? This is that's literally what the sentiment was.
So the idea that if I'm not canceling on all
my life plans and have my whole life, that I'm
not that into you, that's crazy, that's so ye yo.

Speaker 3 (35:28):
So you listen to this podcast that this clip came from.

Speaker 1 (35:30):
I listened to his clips and I and I hold
on and I've toured with with Trilling enough to where
I've told him in his face of goddamn enough that
he pissed me off with this goddamn.

Speaker 3 (35:41):
Here's the thing you put goddamn clip.

Speaker 1 (35:43):
You put strings over a clip and an led sign
behind a nigga and he swear he done became goddamn
Steve Harvey dropping act like a woman, thinking like a man.
Thirty seven.

Speaker 3 (35:54):
Yeah, that has a whole movie score behind.

Speaker 4 (36:00):
But it's on thing too that the caption says, a
woman that all caps really likes you.

Speaker 3 (36:06):
All caps, all your time.

Speaker 4 (36:07):
But then there's a laughing emoti with it right, and
so to me, the clip is confusing because with him
saying fellas if you're struggling to get text backs, callbacks
or whatever, like drop her, you want a woman that
wants to spend your time, that that isolated alone. I
can agree with that sentiment, but like the score, the caption,

(36:27):
the laughing emoji, I'm like, it's performed.

Speaker 3 (36:31):
I can't tell who he's laughing at. Are you taking
shots at the.

Speaker 4 (36:35):
Girl for being like clinging or are you taking shots
at the dude for being played like? I can't even
like tell you my take on it because I'm so
confused by the execution.

Speaker 2 (36:45):
I think this should be a difference between desire and expectations.

Speaker 3 (36:48):
Well, what your desire is.

Speaker 2 (36:49):
Always going to be like damn want to call her
or she want to call me or those things. I
want to spend time, But will it happen? It is impossible.

Speaker 3 (36:57):
He can't give somebody twenty four hours. There can't. We
gotta make money.

Speaker 1 (37:02):
He asked it for the other twelve hours she ain't
at work. Got to be up on it at him.
I think here here's my problem with the way these
types of topics are framed in social media. Right yes,
So when I get on a microphone, I share about
how I navigate my relationships, why, how am I own trauma,
what I'm working through all of those things? Right, when

(37:23):
we see these type of clips, we we almost feel
the need to adapt these things, especially if our dating
lives or relationships aren't working out right. So we're going
to social media to tell us, damn, I'm wrong, I'm
not treating this man like I should. We have men
now thinking in their minds that, oh, this bitch ain't

(37:44):
always up under my skin, she don't really like me.
And so inevitably, what we have doing is we're being
coached by these people that are literally just they just
are saying the things that they know is gonna sound
good under a pair of strings or a harp. And no, no,
they're completely non expert. But when we watch these, mind
you you know how the algorithm works. If you stay

(38:04):
and watch that entire clip, guess what's gonna be fed
to you a lot more clips like that, And so
what's inevitably gonna happen is now everything in which you
thought you were doing right, you're now questioning, and in
terms of how you're navigating your own relationships instead of
talking to the woman or the man that you're dating
and figuring out what makes you feel good, You're like, wait,

(38:29):
my man really going to hang out with his friends.
He must not like me that much. Damn that she
going to do a girl's night and she don't want
to hang with me. That bitch don't really like me.
And so what we're doing is we're naturally internalizing these
things we're battling with ourselves, and because of the pandemic,
because we don't know how to craft these conversations with

(38:49):
people when things really affect us or impact us emotionally,
we start questioning ourselves and then we literally, damn, are
we really together? Does he really like me? Is he
cheating on me? Do that? And and we do it
to ourselves because bitch, you watched the whole goddamn clip.

Speaker 3 (39:04):
Don't tap.

Speaker 1 (39:07):
You know?

Speaker 4 (39:07):
It's interesting too, like and thank you for sharing that
manny too, because I wanted you. I wanted to kind
of get under like what you were feeling about.

Speaker 1 (39:14):
You wanted to get in my skin.

Speaker 4 (39:15):
Well, no, because it's funny, because again the setup of
the clip is confusing, but but also to like when
I see these clips and when you say, like you know,
people are being coached by it's also like people who
are experts at the start of a relationship, Like the
start of the relationship is like infatuation, right, and of
course you want to be with that person all the
time because it's so new, right, And it's like my

(39:37):
wife wants her own time, right because we're so far
from the beginning at this point, you know what I mean.
And so it's like when I see clips like this,
and it's like, uh uh, you know, I don't know
if you calls himself an expert or not, but it's
like when you're saying you like if your woman's not
doing this and you're and you're not doing that, and fellas,
you need to do that, it's to me, it's so

(39:58):
much advice about like the first two months of a relationship,
which is like it's not it's like you don't even
need advice there, just be just be and be joy
and and and just see what it is for what
it is, and if you're together all the time, cool,
if she has her own agency and you like hanging
out and playing ball with your fellas, like it is
what it is. But like there's sort of like this

(40:19):
like over advice like syndrome that happens for like the
very beginning of relationships. And it's like I'd rather hear
people be like, all right, cool when you're one year
in fellas because a lot of people don't always get
to one year.

Speaker 3 (40:33):
Here's some advice you get married? Did you did you
have had a long term when you have a long
term relationship?

Speaker 2 (40:42):
Like we we have to start listening to folks that
what's what's this the girl that was on the early
selected Ignorance the marriage?

Speaker 3 (40:49):
Oh, she was dope.

Speaker 2 (40:51):
So align with Alison while if she's here, where do
they come into play?

Speaker 3 (40:58):
When she's actually.

Speaker 1 (41:00):
Well no, and that's the thing. But she's an expert
with an end goal and someone to listen to. If
you align with that person, I think that's the other thing.
We sit here and maybe the clips you're listening to
don't align with what works for you. Like I wouldn't
sit and take in all of Alison's content because I
don't My end goal is at marriage.

Speaker 3 (41:19):
So I think that'sfic.

Speaker 1 (41:21):
Yeah, and she's very specific. Let's be very clear that.
Let's be very clear the the the internet, especially these
type of dating rhetorics have fucked y'all up so much
that now you can't go enjoy the chicken pacata and
the and the buffalo wing blasters at the Cheesecake Factory
because they'd done told you that the cheesecake Factory is
a bad place to go on a date. And it's

(41:42):
And I'm like, that's what I'm talking about, Like, y'all,
don't let the Internet take the good chicken pacata dish
away from you, you know what I mean? Like you
literally end up robbing yourself of these things because the
places that you once like when the Internet say it's
it's trash or you shouldn't be there, or a man
if he takes you there, he don't like you. Like
you're robbing your some of these things because you're listening
to what the goddamn Internet is telling you. When really, bitch,

(42:04):
you know you like that chicken pikada, you know you
like them goddamn chicken wing blasts them buffalo wild wing
blast before I have my little surgery now because it's
a lot, it's a lot, but them blast is so
goddamn good at the cheese Ka Factory, you hear me,
But that's what I'm saying, Like y'all essentially allow people
to ruin things for you. Like, if I listen to
the Internet, I will be mad as hell if a

(42:26):
nigga took me on a coffee date. Now, if y'all
run the taste back, maybe I said it one time,
I really like coffee. Now I wouldn't be mad. It
got to be a nice coffee coffee shop. But I
actually like coffee. So in my mind, why am I
mad that a nigga want to take me to a
coffee shop?

Speaker 3 (42:41):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (42:41):
Because the Internet told me if he take you to
a coffee shop, he don't really like you. There's no effort,
there's no this. And so we have to like really
be able to remove ourselves from the echoes of the
goddamn Internet and sit with what do you like? What
do you want from a partner?

Speaker 3 (42:56):
What?

Speaker 1 (42:58):
I'm someone that needs alone time. Me needing alone time
doesn't mean I like someone less, bro, I'm just working
with this introverted ass way. And because I have to
be around people so much, my my social battery has
to recharge or I'm not going to be a fun
person to be around. And so it's me acknowledging and
knowing myself, not listening to what the goddamn internet want
to tell me?

Speaker 2 (43:17):
How much of our lifetimeline has been altered because of
social media clips?

Speaker 3 (43:24):
Oh so whole episode right there? So much you ever
think about that, Jay like, oh, it's not only influence.

Speaker 2 (43:32):
Right, how much of the course and the journey that
we were on, which is still the unknown, right because
we don't know, but you have to think that this
influence has led us somewhere else. We've always relationships in
business and interaction in all the things.

Speaker 1 (43:49):
We've always been influenced, so's to be very clear.

Speaker 3 (43:51):
True.

Speaker 1 (43:51):
So when the pop girlies had the low rise jeans on,
that's what we were all wearing. Right. When the niggas
had the tall teas down to their ankles, guess what
they were doing. Those were dresses, but the guys were
wearing the guys were wearing tall teas. Right. And it's
funny because even if I go back to my space age,
if we bring it back to social media, at one

(44:13):
time I was a gang banger. I was a blood
and not because of anything, but I had a friend blood.
This was this was.

Speaker 3 (44:30):
Challenge. What happens?

Speaker 1 (44:31):
Oh yeah, I knew a whole set to I was
pirate allegedly. Oh I swear, okay, but it's because listen,
but but I fell into gang banger territory on my
Space and at the time. But I don't know about

(44:56):
the h T M LKA now, y'all just laughing every
But if y'all remember, if y'all remember, back when we
all used to be coders and learned HTML, there used
to be these like glitter stickers with the girls that
looked like brat stalls that were And I had one
with the God Damn Red you couldn't tell me. And
then I had uh eight oh no, no, no, I had

(45:16):
at least at least two or three game Yes, I
had two three people from the set of Everything every
Day No facts back facts, And I had this is
back when Thugget Shruggish Bone was my MySpace song. I
loved it. Now, I don't know if they're gang bangers,
but I think I remember some bandanna's hanging out their pockets.
It was a lot of them, though at the end
of the they're apparently like coming back or going on

(45:38):
tour or something, but it's all of them, so it's
like seven eight niggas. Bro I'm like, hey, I just
want crazy, lazy wish and like, I don't want all
other of them, you know what I mean. I love
both thugs in harmony. Oh my god. Crossroads. Literally, I'm
in elementary school and they say, what's your favorite song?
Bro up through fifth grade? Crossroads by both thugs and
Army was.

Speaker 3 (45:59):
The drop of the being. I think it was like
with George Bush.

Speaker 1 (46:01):
We not we're not against thugs. We're not against but
we are against those. Yeah, something like that.

Speaker 3 (46:08):
Right now, No, my nails do be read.

Speaker 1 (46:12):
I still say no, I'm just lying, guys.

Speaker 2 (46:15):
I just want to point out she did live in
the Bronx and I also lived in Florida.

Speaker 1 (46:19):
But there's no really anyways, going back to that is
the influence of social media. I think it's always been there, right,
It's always been there.

Speaker 4 (46:28):
But I do I do think it's it's changed a bit.
And I just want to say this at the end
so we can move to next Africa. But I think,
like what you're saying, Mandy too, it's like before it
was like you know, it's it's trends, and it's like
communal trends that happened in our regional pockets. Right, So
That's why I was like in Florida, people were doing this.
In New York, they were doing this in Philly and
d C. They were doing that. But but now when
you talk about my space, so now you're getting like

(46:51):
this like post geographical influence where West Coast stuff is
coming to Orlando and you're banging on.

Speaker 3 (46:57):
Your top eight.

Speaker 4 (46:58):
And I think that's what like a King's alluding to
when it's like you ever sit and wonder how social
media has altered.

Speaker 3 (47:03):
The cource of stuff, and you know, it's an amazing.

Speaker 4 (47:05):
Things, right, like it's it's with full court pumps that
you're at handle like it's it's it's changed your life.
But then to a King's point, like it's also altered
things for other people, where now they hear this dude
talking about if your girls up on the YouTube, is
this you know what I mean?

Speaker 3 (47:21):
Sure, for sure, we didn't have enough mindspace. They took it.
They took that away from us too quick.

Speaker 1 (47:25):
First off, you probably got on it late because you
were old.

Speaker 3 (47:27):
No, I I was.

Speaker 1 (47:29):
I was on the my Space, I was on friends
to hold on so much so to where they blocked
it from my middle school nigga. We knew about VPN before.
We should have known about vp in because we wanted
to go make sure we could check our MySpace pages
and Bloodbird No.

Speaker 2 (47:43):
My Space was like a big part of my early
development into this ship.

Speaker 1 (47:47):
Yeah, it was. It was a lot.

Speaker 3 (47:49):
Like I said, we were coding before they called it coding.

Speaker 4 (47:52):
We're gonna have to do a whole episode on early.

Speaker 1 (47:55):
Dmdas now another one that I want to get into
just because I mentioned them, and I want to make
sure we get into it, especially because we're right in
relationships before we get to Actually, I want to do
kyspannot next. But could you play this clip if you
guys haven't seen it floating around the internet. Young Thug
has been doing his round on podcast and I wish
he would not. He recently sat down on the Pivot

(48:16):
podcast with Ryan Clark, Shannon Crowder, and Fred Taylor to
discuss a lot of things, not only his new album.
Y'all know he's just been released from prison off the Rico,
and he decided to say this in regards to his
views on therapy.

Speaker 3 (48:33):
Let's get into it big so big, my dad.

Speaker 8 (48:38):
Oh geez, I listened to y'all like it's really a
slapping face to me if I you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (48:44):
I was telling my girl that, like, I don't think
you need a therapist.

Speaker 8 (48:48):
I don't think I need a therapist. I feel I
feel like I wouldn't. I feel like I'm not a
man if my girl get a therapist. It's like, damn,
you actually will call somebody and listen to what they
got to stay over me.

Speaker 3 (49:02):
Just listen to what I'm telling you.

Speaker 8 (49:04):
I just feel less of a man.

Speaker 3 (49:07):
That is a wild clip.

Speaker 2 (49:08):
But but but remember this, y'all. Before we embrace the
idea of therapy, that was something that was in the community,
the narrative that therapy.

Speaker 3 (49:19):
Is like a bad.

Speaker 2 (49:20):
Omen like eh therapy, because your stigma was seen as
a stigma, like that something had to be wrong with
you mentally to talk to someone when there's been other
cultures that have been embracing this ship for hundreds of years.

Speaker 3 (49:33):
No, I get that I would be with you.

Speaker 4 (49:35):
If the last line was when he said she could
just listen to me, well.

Speaker 1 (49:40):
Not only that, and then it followed by he followed
that with I would be less of a man. And
I think that's the hard part about this, Like if
we go back to therapy, right, and the idea of
what it was, especially as a millennial in y'all old niggas,
it was like, you can't.

Speaker 3 (49:58):
We can't embrace the old because Jim.

Speaker 1 (50:03):
Date. But but but I loved going to Dodge. Oh wait, wait, wait,
Kevin Hart. So so here's the thing, right, and I
want to share a little bit of my journey with
therapy before I tap into why this is so goddamn
awful for all of us to just see and take

(50:24):
in and unfortunately probably deal with men that are going
to adopt this mindset so early on. And this is
why I talk about so many people being undiagnosed. I
remember my mom not wanting any of me and my
sisters to even get checked for any sort of behavioral
issues or things like that, because at one point she

(50:45):
was like, if you're diagnosed and have to get on
certain meds or have to do this, or it's in
your chart that you are this, it won't allow you
to go into the military, it will hinder you from
getting certain jobs in the future. And there was just
this stigma that if you were diagnosed, and at that
point it was our word and handicap, that's what people
was using back then, right if you had anything wrong

(51:08):
with you, like even I remember the behavioral classes. We
called them the slow kids. Like, if we go back
to kind of how we viewed mental health, it wasn't
a safe space at all. Fast forward, when we first
started Horrible Decisions, I remember Weezy was talking about therapy.
She was going heavy in the beginning, and we've kind
of switched rolls on that, but I remember, like her

(51:29):
asking me about therapy and I was like, bitch, if
you gotta go to therapy is because you don't know yourself.
And I literally be like, I ain't gonna sit across
the table and somebody tell me who I am, Like
I don't know who I am. And I had that
idea of it. Right Fast forward, I'm twenty nine, That's
when I first started my therapy journey. I'm now about
to be thirty five, so I'm five years. Oh it's

(51:52):
a good one.

Speaker 3 (51:53):
That was a good one. I like that timely, y'all, y'all.

Speaker 1 (51:56):
Get all.

Speaker 3 (51:56):
I got damn.

Speaker 1 (51:57):
But I'm now into therapy where it's transformed, like my
everything right, And so when I hear this first off,
it immediately screams narcissism and I'm immediately like, Mariah, get
away as quick as you can, because I know Mariah's young,
You're young, you're impressionable.

Speaker 3 (52:15):
And this man, she's twenty seven and he's thirty four.
Just for listeners to, oh.

Speaker 1 (52:19):
She's twenty seven. Oh she and as young as I thought.

Speaker 3 (52:22):
I she's still young.

Speaker 1 (52:23):
She ain't she as young as I thought she was.
I ain't even gonna hold do.

Speaker 2 (52:28):
We give young thug any grace? Being that he just
he just came home and he might not be.

Speaker 3 (52:35):
Years old.

Speaker 6 (52:36):
Now.

Speaker 2 (52:36):
I'm just saying, in terms of where he's at with
this conversation, maybe he's just you.

Speaker 1 (52:41):
About to blame jail and the pandemic.

Speaker 3 (52:42):
Why God damn, he just needs time to collect.

Speaker 1 (52:46):
To me, here's and I guess here's the problem. We
know what our demo is listening to this pod, right,
The idea that the thirty four year old millionaire who
has a ton of people looking up to him, who
has had to be the provider, who has been in
all these different types of relationships, that has children, the
idea to still give them time when this is the
narrative that they're pushing out. No, because what he's doing

(53:07):
is poisoning not only all the people around him. When
he sits on a platform like the Pivot where hundreds
of thousands of specifically black men are tuning in, it's
absolutely damaging for how those people respond. We already know
the homophobia that exists in our community, right, so if
we already tie a man playing in his ass as gay,

(53:29):
and we tie outfits and colors and now polished and purposes,
and there's all these things that attack a man's manhood
and masculinity right already. Now you're saying that if your
woman goes to therapy, you're also less than a man.
Like that's I think the danger in this rhetoric being

(53:52):
displayed on that type of platform. So, no, do we
give him more time another what six years for him
to fuck say some bullshit like this when the echo
chamber is only going to get louder. Now you thirty
four years old, nigga, Me and him the same goddamn age. No,
I ain't giving him no goddamn grace the fuck and
he don't lived a much longer life. Where what did

(54:14):
you say earlier about being able to go through heartbreaks
and learn from your lessons and all this shit that
Nigga was in the streets that Nigga probably like, I
think that for a lot of us that had the
harder upbringings, bro, we had to learn how to get
ourselves on our ass even more times than the person
that was fed with the silver spoon. So you have
to be able to look at how you treat people,

(54:35):
what things have made you feel better, and mental health
is a large aspect of it. So for you now
to tie masculinity and being a.

Speaker 3 (54:42):
Man to whether they're not somebody else over.

Speaker 1 (54:44):
Someone else's decision to go to therapy, that's crazy, it's manipulative,
and it's dangerous for that to be the rhetoric because
what's gonna happen is a woman like me who enjoys therapy,
who's going to it and finding this. If decide to
go and lean into this rhetoric, a woman could just
be willing to take the steps to enter a therapy journey.

(55:06):
They meet a man like thug who now feel less
than a man. It could derail generations of us women
my age looking to be better. So, Nah, I don't
think a thirty four year old man needs more time
to not spew this rhetoric. And I'm so sick of
all these millennials. I told you that's why I don't
date these niggas. They all need help, they're all undiagnosed,
and none of them believe in therapy. That's why I

(55:29):
like the little Hawaiians and the old heads, because the
old heads have got to where they're going to therapy
because they have dealt with divorce and all that other shit.

Speaker 3 (55:35):
And wish your justification for the Wayans.

Speaker 1 (55:38):
They're they're gitty, they're open.

Speaker 3 (55:41):
You could teach them up.

Speaker 1 (55:42):
No, not only can you teach them up, they're more
in tune with their mental and okay with getting the
help or getting on whatever meds they need to be on,
like therapy. Now, for the last I would say almost
ten years have been a normalized conversation shout out to
people like you know we have I mean, nineteen Keys
is a little teppy, but you got men like him,

(56:02):
you have Charlemagne, you have you have I mean even
that's a little old tepping, but even to be fair too,
Like it's why I love what Rashad and and Troy
are doing with arn your leisure, bro. Yes, we have
how how this can impact your mental health, but there
are resources out there now to make you better people.
You just got to lean into that and not get
caught up in the algorithm of I ain't less than

(56:25):
a man if my woman go to there, because why
you're not listening to me?

Speaker 3 (56:29):
I feel like it's uncle talk. I think it's uncle
talker's Fuck. Yeah, it's uncle talk. And I mean, like
not all uncles, but you know we heard that now before.
And guess what uncle talk is bullshit?

Speaker 1 (56:39):
Nah, they was all creepsters filling on little girls, and
now that's why they all getting locked up. And when
I think of uncle talk, I think of r Kelly's
like niggas with that type of rhetic or even when
you hear like these old head podcasts sometimes it's like
what you're saying is problematic as fuck, but it's that
rhetoric that. Guess what they keep doing passing down today

(57:00):
Today's sons or what do you call them that? When
you were O G would you pass it down? Is
it sons?

Speaker 3 (57:05):
You tell us climb?

Speaker 7 (57:10):
No?

Speaker 1 (57:10):
You should. You should have seen me. You should have
seen me. I learned how to spell blow with my
fingers and I was so excited.

Speaker 3 (57:17):
Ah, don't be throwing up.

Speaker 1 (57:19):
Hey, Hey, TJ, need you to blur that out.

Speaker 4 (57:24):
Don't stop it five, don't don't don't stop it five.

Speaker 1 (57:29):
We're not doing none of that. We're not doing none
of that. But yeah, that's my that's my take on that,
and I hope that y'all continue to drag him for
that take and hopefully drag him into therapy. That's my hope.
The last one I think I would love to talk
about this guy Sanat talking to Kirk Franklin, and then
we'll lean into some other instances that we saw and

(57:51):
then wrap it up with what's happening with the comedy
festival over in Saudi Arabia, which before we get there,
I do want to shout out to Mark Lamont Hill.
There was a recent episode that I listened to the
Joe Budden podcast which put me onto this mindset because
I had no idea of the comedy festival taking place
out in Saudi Arabia, who all was in attendance for it?

(58:15):
And it really made me think, And y'all are really
gonna get my honest thoughts when we dig deep into it.
But Kay Sanat revealed to Kirk Franklin that he turned
down a large sum of money here this out.

Speaker 9 (58:26):
That all money is good money, So I can't like
a lot of the times, there's gonna be times of
opportunities when you're gonna wanna you don't want to get
money to do certain things that you wouldn't normally be able,
like you don't normally do like tighty three my first
boffet I ever, I was offered like sixty million, you
are behind me, sixty million to do something to do
like I like gambling and stuff like that. And I

(58:50):
didn't want to take because I knew it would mess
me up. I knew that it made me lose focus
on what I got going on right now. I don't
know how even because it's so clear off of that time,
because you anybody, anybody would take that, Yes, anybody.

Speaker 3 (59:05):
Would take that. So it's like, and you said no,
I said no. So the first thing I did I
went to my closet. Wen't have to call.

Speaker 9 (59:12):
I went to my closet and I just asked God,
I said, listen, I said, I said, I don't want
but I said no. I said, I'm gonna say no
right now. But I don't want to take the short term.
I want to be to take the wrong term.

Speaker 1 (59:24):
And I promise you.

Speaker 3 (59:26):
I gotten on my knees. I prayed after that, and
I just kept I just kept working.

Speaker 9 (59:31):
So it's like, but people, I don't understand chat when
I be trying to make y'all understand, is that bro
a lot of a lot of the things that left
that comes. Not all money is good money, like you
cannot take It's not. Sometimes people they want to take
the short route. But as long as you believe in
your craft or as like as you believe in God,
I don't care about by the time I'm like fifty

(59:53):
or sixty years old, I understand like to get to
the point where I'm like, oh my gosh, but like I'd.

Speaker 3 (59:58):
Rather take the shorter I to take the long route.
In short, I love that now.

Speaker 1 (01:00:04):
I love this too, and and and the ways in
which I wanted to tie this to our mental health
is the unrealistic way in which we not only view money.
But I think that the internet has an interesting way
with having us question our moral compass, our integrity. But

(01:00:26):
aside from that, it leans us heavily into our hypocrisy.
And so oh baby, hey, y'all already know a part
of even how this podcast started was how much hypocrisy
I saw just existed in how you present yourself and
what you fight for, but also what you do on
the back end. And I really like the concept around

(01:00:49):
all money is not good money, right.

Speaker 3 (01:00:51):
Because and he says that, he says that a lot.

Speaker 1 (01:00:53):
He says that a lot. But even at the time
that he was it's interesting because I think it's a
led sword, right. I think that this is a great message.
I think for anyone listening, it's a great message. However,
at twenty one, he was already streaming heavily, clearly making
enough money to get offered a sixty million dollar deal, right.

(01:01:16):
And so when I hear someone who's probably already a
millionaire say he turned down this money, and then we
have these conversations about all money is not good money.
But I know a lot of members in my family are.
When I was growing up, we was one one emergency
away from not being able to eat or my mom

(01:01:36):
being behind on bills. The idea of what I know
people do for money is crazy, Like I'll be honest
with you, I ain't do it. I'm gonna say I
ain't do it. I don't know the statue of limitation.
But there was a part allegedly where there was that
iPhone scam where you go in and get iPhones and
then you give them to someone to jail break itself
as long as you're credit good every day, every segment.

(01:02:00):
I'm just saying there was there was, you know, a
time where it was easy to do that, And a
year or so later, I sprint, why are you on
my I've never had sprint? I'm confused by But when
I go back to think about where I was at
that time, of course knowing it's a scam, knowing it's
probably not the right way of doing stuff, and of

(01:02:21):
course I was convinced that it was you do things
because there's a lot of things that even when you
know it's wrong. Bro money, what say They say it's
the root of all evil, But it's really difficult to
say all money isn't good money and tie that into
money when you don't have it.

Speaker 3 (01:02:38):
Yeah, just trying to be a decent man in the
City of Demons.

Speaker 1 (01:02:41):
There we go.

Speaker 3 (01:02:42):
People do things you want to push back mental health
reasons reasons exactly.

Speaker 1 (01:02:49):
Like it's easy to take to turn that down when
you're not crying and figuring out how you're going to
feed yourself, your family, and put a roof over your head.
Like it's why so many people who don't want to
like women for sure, and I've been an advocate of it,
But there's a thing called survival sex, like going on
dates and dealing with these old white men, are dealing
with men that are unattractive and having to do things

(01:03:11):
that you would not rather You would rather not do,
but you have no other choice because how you're gonna
pay these bills. There's a lot of women who have
done things, have taken jobs, have taken multiple jobs, not
because they just want to for the hell of it,
but it's because they have to, even if the jobs
aren't good. Like it's why when people say they want
to take a woman out the strip club, like bro,

(01:03:31):
whether you viewed that place as a place of evil
or another woman, if you judge this woman for how
she's making money. I just I saw this and I
was like, it means well, But I can't take it
from someone who's already a millionaire. I would love to
hear someone who's really down and out tell me they
turned down a large sum of money because it wasn't

(01:03:53):
good money.

Speaker 2 (01:03:55):
I think that's the I think we need to ask
Kai if he can reveal what was said in those
negotiations that made him.

Speaker 1 (01:04:04):
He said it was for gambling, and he doesn't align
with gambling. He felt like that didn't align with his
He didn't want to push people to gamble because if
you think about it, maybe maybe his dad or maybe
someone in his.

Speaker 3 (01:04:15):
Family something that he he's witnessed.

Speaker 2 (01:04:18):
Experience as a young d that he just hold on
to that I can't go down that path, right, which
is which is cool right because and also the other
part of it too. He turned down sixty million, That
means you also know that you have another eighty.

Speaker 10 (01:04:29):
Bro.

Speaker 2 (01:04:29):
You're sitting around it, bro, I mean there's another offer
around the corner, and like, all right, I get that.

Speaker 1 (01:04:34):
Yeah, right right, You turned out sixty, but didn't tell
us how you agree daty vibe just with another.

Speaker 3 (01:04:39):
Company right exactly that probably would have competed.

Speaker 1 (01:04:41):
So you was like, yeah, I ain't say that sixty
because I had another another couple bags waiting on me. Yeah.
It's interesting because when I see clips like this, it
does make me sit back, like, okay, where would I
draw the line?

Speaker 3 (01:04:54):
You would have took the sixty for gambling nigga.

Speaker 1 (01:04:56):
Whenever I go to Vegas, I'm at the sports bett, like,
let me see, let me see if I could turn
this hunting. It's a twenty five hundred. I guess that's
why I wanted to bring up what's happening out in
Saudi Arabia because that was the only thing that when
it was positioned, the conversation was had did have to think,
mind you, there's a lot of things that I would

(01:05:17):
do for money. I've been bought, I've been sold, bitch.
So a part of me and my relationship with money,
I do believe everyone has a price. I'm someone who
has had a price as well. So I think I
would be a hypocrite to say no, But let me
read a little bit of backstory on what's happening, or Jason,
if you could tie in a little bit and let
everyone know what's happening with the comedy fest out in

(01:05:40):
Saudi Arabia.

Speaker 3 (01:05:41):
Yeah, so.

Speaker 4 (01:05:44):
This comedy festival is happening in Saudi Arabia and big headliners,
you know, Dave Chappelle, Kevin Hard, Louis c K, you know,
the list goes on and on. I mean it's huge,
much bigger names than like the New York Comedy Festival
and the It's happening.

Speaker 3 (01:06:00):
In Saudi Arabia.

Speaker 4 (01:06:01):
Saudi Arabia is infamously led by the Crown Prince Mohammed
Ben Solomon, and most people in the US probably heard
of his name because his government killed a Washington Post
journalist by the name of Jamal Gashagi after he wrote
columns in the Washington Post criticizing Saudi Arabian. He that
journalist is also Saudi Arabian, and also too, like Saudi

(01:06:26):
Arabia is also behind like a lot of sports stuff.
So like that, what's that golf league? The alternate golf
league from the PGA?

Speaker 3 (01:06:33):
What is it called?

Speaker 1 (01:06:34):
You know, I don't know nothing about no golf.

Speaker 3 (01:06:37):
No, it's a it's uh what is it PGA versus?
I'll find a real quickt PGA verse Outlive, okay.

Speaker 4 (01:06:45):
So and so like a lot of a lot of
golfers went to Live because Live was just paying the bag,
like doubled the bag. They almost pulled Charles Barkley away
from tn T Sports to be a golf commentator on Live.
That they just have like ridiculous amounts of money, and
you know, people call that like sports washing where they're
trying to like clean their repusation for human rights abuses
through like sports and entertainment, and so Saudi Arabia is

(01:07:07):
like infamously known for like a ton of like executions.

Speaker 1 (01:07:11):
I was actually I wanted to get into that real
quick because that's that's the part, right so basically the
issue right now? Mind you, Mark.

Speaker 3 (01:07:19):
Moran, there's a lot of I have that clip too.

Speaker 1 (01:07:22):
Yeah, can we play that clip first, just because I
want the audience to kind of realize what the criticism
is and then I'm going to get into how y'all
can be bought. But let's let's play the clip around
Mark and his sentiments on why he believes this goes
like there's there's hypocrisy here.

Speaker 3 (01:07:41):
Here we go, this is.

Speaker 10 (01:07:42):
True Saudi Arabia Comedy Festival.

Speaker 11 (01:07:47):
I mean, how do you even promote that, you know,
like from the folks that brush you nine to eleven
foot two weeks of laughter in the desert, don't miss it.
I mean, the same guy that's going to pay them
as the same guy that paid that guy to bone
sug Jamal Kashogi and put him in a fucking suitcase.

(01:08:09):
But don't let guess top the ups, it's gonna be
a good time. Full disclosure, I was not asked to perform.

Speaker 10 (01:08:18):
At the Riod Comedy Festival, so it's kind of easy
for me to take the high road on this one.
Easy to maintain your integrity when no one's offering to
buy it out, you know.

Speaker 1 (01:08:32):
So basically they're basically imagine, imagine your your rate is
one hundred thousand Moneys. Again, they have even Chris Tucker
come out out of goddamn retiming they have. The list
is insane and it's it's alleged that they were given
offers five ten, one hundred times what they're going rates
normally are. So some of the things on why this

(01:08:55):
is an issue. The nine to eleven joke made you know.
Of course, there was also another journalism that went over
there and was killed. That's who Mark reference in his thing.
But we over here in America are already fighting for
right freedom of speech, women's rights, things like that. Here's
some of the things that they allow in Saudi Arabia,
capital punishment, harsh punishment, and torture in terms of women's rights.

(01:09:20):
Saudi Arabia's male guardianship system means many women require male
guardian permission to marry, travel, leave prison, or engage in
legal matters. They often also face many obstacles in the
justice system. While there have been some reforms like women
can now drive, attend events, and in some cases travel

(01:09:43):
without permission, the changes are partial in terms of also
the LGBTQ rights and sexual freedoms. Sex sexual activity is illegal,
fuck marriage. You can't do any same sex activity whatsoever.
It is punishable, which includes things like flogging, imprisonment, or
even the death penalty. So if you are not straight

(01:10:06):
or heterosexual, they can kill you. And another thing that
maybe you guys will understand if maybe you don't care
about women, or maybe you don't care about the LGBTQ rights,
maybe you're Christian, and so let's lean into the restrictions
of religion. Public religious expression that deviates from the officially
sanctioned version of Sunni Islam is heavily repressed. So literally

(01:10:32):
any other group of religious of religious beliefs, those groups
often face discrimination and perscution, and they can carry harsh
penalties as well. So imagine these people who may be
you know, putting up the black posts and solidarity of
black Lives Matter and all these things here, they go

(01:10:52):
to a goddamn country to get a check that essentially
has rights against women same sex at that point, anything
same sex. And again there's migrant worker and labor rights.
There's so many issues there. So if you believe in

(01:11:14):
prison reform, this probably isn't a place you should ever go,
because that's what essentially you're supporting by going there. If
you believe in women having the rights to choose what
they do with their body, or to be able to
become victims of sexual assault and things of that nature,
why would you go over there. If you believe that
we have freedom of speech and freedom of religion and
ways in which to exist in the way we do,

(01:11:36):
why would you go and take money from a country
like that? Right, And so I'm sitting here thinking, and
I'm like, I'm clearly here for aull, for women's rights.
I want the best for LGBTKE, LGBTQ communities and things
like that. And I don't like that you are leaning
back in here because what I'm about to say is

(01:11:58):
gonna make people upset, and I don't want to make
them upset. But it's tricky, right, The idea of not
being able to go to certain parts of the world
that we don't really have any control over. We all
have bills and things to pay. And so as I'm

(01:12:19):
hearing people criticize the comedians that went out there to
take this money, I was like, damn, is this something
I would do? Knowing that I'm against all these things. Now,
I also want to explain that if you look at
my passport, I've been to Israel. I've been to Doha,
which is in kutter, who has very strict rights against

(01:12:41):
women and what they can do. I enjoy Dubai. I've
been to Abu Dhabi' I was thinking, like, damn, I've
actually visited and traveled to places, even South Africa, knowing
that they went through the apartheid and what kind of
they're still dealing. I went and did a tour through
the fucking like townships like it was Soweto, which is

(01:13:03):
which is where you know they separate. There's classism in
the places I go to. So as I'm sitting here
thinking about believing that people, yes, deserve a wage, a
living wage, as I believe that women deserve all these rights,
as I believe all these things, I also had to
sit and been like whoa, But I have visited and
toward the slums in different countries that go against, yes,

(01:13:27):
my personal beliefs. But and I didn't get paid, mind you,
I paid. I didn't even take a check to be there.
But a part of me was like, is there a
harm in that? Really? No, Like, I don't because and
in the same breath, right, there's so many people now
we see Vegas and a lot of cities and places

(01:13:49):
in our own in our own country that other foreigners
don't want to come to. So I'm also thinking, is
this one of again the echo chambers that we that
essentially want to brainwash us to believe that America is
still better than the rest of these countries and how
they operate. And then when I sit and think like,

(01:14:10):
I'm here for women's rights, but guess who ain't ship
some women Like I don't believe I could be a
savior to all women, even though I believe that we
should all have the rights to our own bodies, you
know what I mean. So when I was thinking, I
was like, damn, I'd probably do a show over there
if they paid me. You would a number, right, I thought,

(01:14:32):
the lowest.

Speaker 12 (01:14:32):
Number that you think I would turn out, so to
give your context on numbers, because I'll say this, I'm
gonna lose this argument. Shane Gillis, he said he got
offered a huge bag to go way over his rate, okay,
and when he said he when he turned it down,
said I can't, I'm busy.

Speaker 3 (01:14:50):
He said, they doubled it. Oh it's a huge bag.
Huge bag.

Speaker 5 (01:14:56):
So saying that did he take it after they doubled
he but maybe maybe you would fold like laundry. But
the point that was going to say laundry, my I
was gonna say, visiting a country is supporting the people.

Speaker 4 (01:15:09):
Taking money from them is supporting the government. And so
I think there are two different things. So just because
it visited service, but that's not visiting through tourism, right
Like our government sucks. If somebody visits our country, they're
not supporting our government. They're supporting the people because they're
coming and visiting. But if you're taking money for a
show that the government is paying out, that's the no no,

(01:15:32):
because then you're then you're.

Speaker 1 (01:15:34):
Paying the taxes that they go to Disney.

Speaker 4 (01:15:37):
The taxes, taxes, taxes are supposed to go back to
the people.

Speaker 3 (01:15:41):
I mean, you could say that here too. I mean,
it's so many, so many, like I think.

Speaker 4 (01:15:45):
But if you're visiting, it's like when you when you
go to a hood, you're going there because you're supporting
the community.

Speaker 3 (01:15:50):
Now let me think you're visiting.

Speaker 4 (01:15:52):
But if an oppressive government is like, Mandy, take this
check and sign right here, that's that that's something.

Speaker 1 (01:15:58):
It's tricky. It's tricky only because if the government is
now allowed hold on, let me tell you why I
think it's trick Andy. It's specifically because it's the comedians, right,
even seeing Mark's joke on stage, and.

Speaker 3 (01:16:09):
Let me give some more names too, so people don't
think it's just blabing.

Speaker 4 (01:16:11):
No, no, just Joe Coy, Whitney Cummings, Pete Davidson, Andrew Schultz.

Speaker 1 (01:16:16):
And Andrew went out there and did a show by himself.
But I think in terms of this, right, when you
open a country like that to comedy that we and
our country are already looking at as something that really
makes you go home, it could be problematic, it could
be thought provoking, it could be all these things, right,

(01:16:37):
I think there could be an element in which you
believe you're going out there and you're you're investing in
changing the culture of what that country looks like. And
I think it's why even in this country, I'm scared
as fuck with the idea that the First Amendment can
be revoked from us, because right now we do have
this freedom, but we see those rights slowly being snatched

(01:16:57):
from us too. Right So, I think one of the
things that make us so great is that we have
these platforms where we're able to talk this way. And
I think that in a country like Saudi Arabia, where
women just got the opportunity to be able to go
to events, I think having these type of thought provoking
individuals which I do find comedians, especially the names you

(01:17:19):
said to be brilliant and their delivery and their way
to make you really go, I think that it could
be a culture shift in a country that we currently
don't align with.

Speaker 4 (01:17:29):
On a transactional appearance that you're getting paid by the government,
I don't think they're going to be.

Speaker 1 (01:17:35):
I see the contract.

Speaker 3 (01:17:37):
I need to see the contract anything.

Speaker 1 (01:17:40):
I need to see the contract, because if they're able
to really dig in on the government, like what we're
seeing South Park do with Trump on their new episodes, if.

Speaker 3 (01:17:50):
They're able to really chunk hold but but Trump's not
paying them. This is this is done being like we
kill people for fun.

Speaker 1 (01:17:56):
Well, no, we're going to Trump didn't pay them directly,
but in order for them to get that billion dollar
deal from Paramount, Trump was a part of stopping it
and making it go on, and he inserted himself into
that deal.

Speaker 4 (01:18:10):
But he also but the bank didn't come from the government,
and this is government money that they're taking it due
to comedy show.

Speaker 1 (01:18:16):
I think it's tricky when you also separate the government. Well,
when you separate the government and billionaires, when we know
our president has become a billionaire since entering office only
ten months ago, I think there's a thin line between
governing and seeing what these people are doing from a
business standpoint, and we know that they're dipping their hands
in the motherfucking pots. That's why Eric Adams said I

(01:18:39):
won't be running for Mary the next because he done
got caught put in his hand in the goddamn cookie job.

Speaker 2 (01:18:44):
Well, you see, the Saudi's made a big play the
other day too when they just purchased EA Sports.

Speaker 1 (01:18:49):
Oh is that what they did too? Well?

Speaker 3 (01:18:50):
Also, Trump's law is.

Speaker 1 (01:18:54):
So I have friends that last December spent about a
week in Saudi Arabia. Spotify was out there and Billboard
and so they had a lot of the music industry
out there because they're working on streaming and of course
what munich can and things like that. So if if
it makes sense to drop some of these harsh ways

(01:19:16):
of working legal by bringing in more money to filter
tourism and people coming in, I'm kind of I'm kind
of OK.

Speaker 3 (01:19:29):
But you're jamming two things together that aren't together.

Speaker 4 (01:19:32):
Like again, this comedy show, it's not like it's an
independent comedy show, and it's like some promoter doing it.
It's the government doing it, right, Like it's it's the
government's tourism group that's doing that. They're whitewashing their money
through it. That's one thing, right, Like if a promoter
sets you up and wants to bring you out there,
that's completely different than the government who does all this
foulship inviting it.

Speaker 3 (01:19:52):
That's the part with me.

Speaker 4 (01:19:53):
It's not tricky, right, Like it's it's you wouldn't take it.
And again I'll say this, and I know I'll be wrong.
You wouldn't take a try check from Trump?

Speaker 3 (01:20:01):
I don't think. But what if?

Speaker 2 (01:20:05):
But what if the check what if the check allow
you to contribute in That's what I'm saying. What if
I don't what would to causes and things that you
do care because it's your money.

Speaker 4 (01:20:19):
Sure, but we're talking about these people right here, this
list of these commedians, these comedians ain't coming back with
this money and being like, that's like saying trickle down economics.

Speaker 3 (01:20:27):
Trickle down economics is just a Ponzi scheme.

Speaker 4 (01:20:30):
Billionaires aren't getting tax breaks and being like, oh here,
y'all take it. They're buying properties in the Hamptons, you
know what I mean. So it's not I wouldn't look
to Andrew Schultz and now you don't want.

Speaker 1 (01:20:40):
Now you don't want black Now you don't want black
people to have generational wealth and pass down real estate.

Speaker 13 (01:20:45):
To their question, helping generationally, he said, to help causes, say,
to help their cause.

Speaker 3 (01:20:56):
It could be helped causes quietly. Right, that's the other
part it.

Speaker 4 (01:21:00):
Sure, you can take cleaner money to help causes. You
can go to any other place rather than there. Again,
that's why I.

Speaker 3 (01:21:06):
Just don't think it's tricky.

Speaker 4 (01:21:07):
And the funny thing is the way you set this up, Mandy, Right,
you were talking about Kay sanat and you're like, well,
what if a broke person, like, what are they going
to do with this money? Now we're comparing apples to
apples with Rich Kyson, I has money and he said no.
All these comedians on this bill have money, and they
said yes. And not only do they say yes, some
of them are being like, why are you coming at me?
Why are you coming at me?

Speaker 3 (01:21:28):
Because they're being called out.

Speaker 1 (01:21:29):
Money is subjective by the way, they might not think
they have money.

Speaker 3 (01:21:33):
Okay, I mean how much did the did Trump pay
when they had the crypto ball?

Speaker 1 (01:21:40):
Oh well, I mean, of course, like Snoop and Nelly
were up there GI rating. I think I think. I
think that's the thing right too. In reading this, a
part of a part of us, especially if we see
Marx Rant, if we see the other the other comedians,
that are frustrated and irate at the decision that all
these other people, it causes us, as the consumers of

(01:22:02):
social media, to go through and almost pick aside, and
a part of us wants to be either completely upset
that these people chose to do this and not stand
for anything, but then at the same time it's like, okay, well,
I wonder if I would do it, and what and
essentially what it does is it creates this. I love
the conversation that it could have, but again it makes
you feel like, oh, we live in this individualistic society.

(01:22:23):
We're never gonna all come together for a common calls
because money can buy everybody. And what I see even
in the comments for things like this is people being
upset because now what the next time Pete Davison or
Chris Tucker or somebody wants to do something. Now they're
gonna have to defend their decision to go out there
to Saudi Arabia and get that goddamn bag.

Speaker 2 (01:22:43):
And oh you should, by the way, listen y'all, but
also you can you I think that you can. This
should be space for them to explain if they choose.

Speaker 4 (01:22:55):
Okay, you know fasics thain cool, But I think she's
saying they have to get questioned and asked.

Speaker 3 (01:23:01):
I don't think there's any everything they do. People.

Speaker 4 (01:23:03):
Next thing Pete Davidson does, he could do a Broadway
play that's dedicated to my father and the whole nine
to eleven stuff.

Speaker 3 (01:23:09):
He does his press available. I think, Pete, you just
want the Saudi Arabia. Why did you do that? I
don't think they ask him, though I think there's other
people I know.

Speaker 1 (01:23:17):
Yeah, Yeah, they're not gonna ask Pete. I don't think
they give a about my Pete like that. But I
think they definitely gonna ask, like a Kevin Heart what
there's a lot of people.

Speaker 3 (01:23:25):
On they're gonna Bill Barr. Bill Burr is gonna have
to there you go there. I would love to hear
his his take.

Speaker 1 (01:23:32):
He probably is just in order to shut people up,
go come back over and donate a large portion of
it to something which that which again that shuts.

Speaker 3 (01:23:41):
People up, And I think he would explain it.

Speaker 1 (01:23:43):
People love seeing when people get a bag and they
give it away.

Speaker 2 (01:23:47):
So if we get that email top of the ear
Selective Ignorance live show in Dubai?

Speaker 3 (01:23:54):
Is that absolutely that far in the world? But would
you would you? Would you do coming through?

Speaker 1 (01:24:04):
Make sure to include y'all's rates.

Speaker 3 (01:24:06):
Yeah, to do a show there?

Speaker 4 (01:24:08):
Absolutely If the government is paying for us to go there,
that's are you going to ask?

Speaker 3 (01:24:13):
And we're gonna ask what you're gonna ask? Yes, Yeah,
and this one then.

Speaker 1 (01:24:20):
Jason, I won't tell you you're gonna enjoy that A
flight on emirates over there. I could be like, I'm
gonna I'm gonna make sure they buy us the flights
where there's a shower in like we got our own,
We got our own cabin.

Speaker 3 (01:24:34):
On the don't don't listen, just covey is con your.

Speaker 1 (01:24:38):
Years, y'all.

Speaker 4 (01:24:39):
I'm gonna cue up this clip of cars and saying
all money and good monch.

Speaker 1 (01:24:43):
Just so y'all know this is literally for entertainment person
purposes only.

Speaker 3 (01:24:48):
Yes, we're just having a discussion.

Speaker 1 (01:24:50):
Yeah, no we are. But I guess that's sometimes the
problem my dead has be telling y'all my my brain
thought process at the moment. It is just you know,
I would love the opportunity to grow. So possibly tomorrow
if you see me in the streets, my mind maybe different. Okay, Like,
don't hold me to what y'all hear me say on
this very day, because they could change tomorrow.

Speaker 3 (01:25:11):
Non negotiable change every day.

Speaker 1 (01:25:14):
They can change non negotiables change every day is crazy,
they can. They're not supposed to be negotiable. People grow
every day.

Speaker 3 (01:25:25):
That's why they gave Shy. They doubled his the offer, right, Yeah,
people grow every day and people progress every day. That
is goiable.

Speaker 1 (01:25:34):
Progressing every day is insane. Anyways, guys, thank y'all so
much for tuning in. This was This was an interesting
and interesting combo. I really would love to hear y'all's thoughts. Y'all,
we are ramping up on patree on I was able
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