Ep. 38 | Public Outrage: Tragedy in Florida, True Crime & Gamers - Selective Ignorance with Mandii B

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hey, guys, welcome to another episode of Selective Ignorance. However,

(00:03):
before we get to this week's episode, I want to
remind you guys to purchase my book No Holds Barred,
a dual manifesto of sexual exploration and power. So feel
free to go to your local bookstores preferably queer owned,
black owned, or woman owned to support them, but also
just click the button on Amazon, Barnes and Nobles, or

(00:23):
wherever you read your books. Again. That is No Holds Barred,
a dual manifesto of sexual exploration and power, written by
yours truly and my co host of the Decisions Decisions podcast, Weezy.
Make sure y'all get that. Now, let's get to this
week's episode. This is Mandy B. Welcome to Selective Ignorance,
a production of the Black Effec Podcast Network and Iart Radio.

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What's up, y'all, it's your girl, Mandy B. And we
are back with another episode of Selective Ignorance, where we
know better, but sometimes we just choose not to do better.
You know. Today's episode and this is America. We're heading
right back into the ghetto of all ghettos. Yes, I'm
using that word on purpose despite me not wanting to
use the word ever again, because we're talking Florida, Yes,

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the Sunshine state that I am born and raised in
but always embarrassed by. Spoiler alert alert. We're getting into
not one, but two of the Netflix docs that just
released down into place in Florida. So we're talking The
Perfect Neighbor and Eileen Queen of serial Killers, both tragic,

(01:28):
both wild, and of course both starring Florida women. And
then in Celebrities say the darness things, Mario decided to
take Cam Newton's bay and let us know who he
thinks can and cannot sing. Boy, I thought he came
up in the era with media training. I guess not.
Then THEO Vaughn might have cracked the code on why
women love true crime and DJ head yeah, DJ had said, Wat,

(01:52):
we're gonna unpack all of the things with a little
bit of judgment, and then of course get into some
am I ignorant? So get into your group chat, get
your coffee, grab your wine. I don't know when you're
listening to this, but selective Ignorance is about to begin,
and I'm really excited because as usual, I am joined

(02:14):
by my super producers. We have journalism Jason in the
building like I'm looking at him, like, y'all I could reach.

Speaker 2 (02:23):
Over and promote him, promoting out of my basement. I
got caught up to the big leagues, and then.

Speaker 1 (02:28):
Of course a king right here, y'all. Literally, let me
tell y'all how crazy I am. A bitch flew in
this morning and guess what I did. Be everybody here,
ain't that crazy?

Speaker 2 (02:41):
First we got to the room.

Speaker 3 (02:42):
Ten a million people in New York City and Manhattan
alone is insane.

Speaker 1 (02:46):
No, no, no, no, I ain't gonna hold you. This is nuts.
It's insane.

Speaker 4 (02:50):
It is unpacked that you got that flight you got.

Speaker 1 (02:53):
I got on the flight, mind you, as in the
go of the taping of this episode. Yes, the government
is still shut down. I feel like I cracked the
code on it, though, because I didn't travel two weeks
in a row from Atlanta to New York, New York
and back. Maybe it's the first flight out that's all
you have to get. Don't tell me, hollo on, But
when I tell you this is what's crazy about me

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beating all to the motherfucking office. I woke up this
morning at three point thirty this morning for a six
o'clock flight atl to Laguardian Yep, and yeah, landed and
was like, oh, okay, cool, I'm right here LaGuardia. Manhat
ain't you know quick over? You know about another one
hundred dollars just in an uber. It took me from

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Lagordia to Midtown an hour and fifteen minutes. So I'm
about to be really ignorant and say this. I thought
I thought the tolls. I thought the congestion pricing was
keeping the poores out. Oh no, that's what because they
were complaining about it the civilians. Okay, I said, I

(03:58):
was gonna be ignorant first, because when it first happened,
it said, manheb was just clear. Everybody was just driving through.

Speaker 2 (04:04):
So I was like driving through Jersey to the New
York side. It's clear because it came from Queens. Was
there a lot of trucks?

Speaker 4 (04:11):
Though?

Speaker 1 (04:11):
No, it was cars. It was vehicles.

Speaker 2 (04:13):
It's a popular vehicles.

Speaker 1 (04:14):
And by the way, when I say poors, I don't
mean that, but I do mean civilians. But I wanted
to sound like the Republicans that are currently talking about
everyone not getting goddamn stat benefits. Don't do me. No,
we're not gonna go.

Speaker 4 (04:26):
It's the economics of convenience.

Speaker 1 (04:28):
Did you just say, Mandy Taylor Green, I will kick
your bro That.

Speaker 4 (04:33):
Was I was trying too. It'll go over head.

Speaker 1 (04:36):
No, no, no, no, I will.

Speaker 3 (04:39):
You know what, No, But it's the economics of convenience.
It don't matter if you're poor, rich traveling New York City.
You just gonna make an executive decision like, yo, I
need to get to where I need to go on
my own you know way or whatever, and you're gonna
pay it.

Speaker 1 (04:52):
I ain't gonna hold you, mndamy, do what you do.
I'm taking the bus next time I land. Because that
motherfucking ninety fold all of uber. I was like, yeah, nommy,
get this, Get them buses to be free, and you, hey, hey,
hold on, and if y'all see me on them goddamn.

Speaker 4 (05:08):
Bus, don't judge.

Speaker 1 (05:10):
Shut your goddamn because you know what, Like I just
left here, but I still come up here quite off
and I get on the train. Do you know how
many fucking podcast listeners are like, who didn't they? I
see you on the truck?

Speaker 4 (05:21):
What are you doing?

Speaker 1 (05:25):
What is it gonna be? Listen? Look, I mean I
say things like don't I just said him, a dimmy.

Speaker 4 (05:36):
Making the bus.

Speaker 2 (05:38):
I've took the bus in a minute, but.

Speaker 1 (05:40):
Morning taking I got well, I did take a bus.
Which which concert was it coming from? No, it was
coming from Jersey back into Pensation.

Speaker 4 (05:52):
That's not I'm talking about the letters.

Speaker 3 (05:55):
The letter trains bus from Jersey to that's more luxury.

Speaker 4 (05:59):
That's like a coach boys, that's like going great.

Speaker 2 (06:02):
It was.

Speaker 1 (06:04):
It's like they had their little plugs to charge my phone.
Say good, because I'm trying to party after this, you know,
you know, but yeah, the government shut down is crazy.
I am gonna sound even more ignorant real quick, because
while I while I don't want the Democrats to concede,

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and someone sent me a clip yesterday of Charlemagne on
the Breakfast Club, and I forgot who he was talking to,
but it was some politician and he was talking about
wanting the Democrats to concede and because and his reasoning
was that, man, we already know the Republicans the ain't
gonna do right by us anyways.

Speaker 5 (06:46):
And I was like whoa, whoa, who woo whoa, Like no, no, no, no, no,
no, no no no, I know that the elections we have
elections in twenty twenty six, the midterms and things like that,
and he's just saying we could get it right then,
Oh no, baby, let's not give them any power.

Speaker 1 (07:00):
Al think that we just gonna fall over to them,
Like I don't know it.

Speaker 3 (07:03):
Was, I understand it, but I think there's you got
to apply the pressure back to now. Especially with this
last election turnout. I think they have a little momentum
and they could build off of that.

Speaker 1 (07:12):
Who has momentum? Democrats, Well, that's the thing, But it's
only eight niggas. Bro. The Republicans control to sit at
the Supreme Court, the White Earth, they control everything. And
then they going up on they goddamn podium talk about
it's the Democrats told us, bro, it's eight niggas, It's
eight all yeah. And so I'm actually glad that these

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eight are not folding and holding up, like, yes, I
go to DR. I'm supposed to be going to DR
and then Dallas for Thanksgiving. So I'm hoping that there's
a resolution. I don't want the Democratic concede, but I
do want the government to get their ship back together,
because they talk about canceling flights and I.

Speaker 3 (07:52):
Need to get three days before I need to.

Speaker 1 (07:57):
Get some sun and I'm supposed to be cooking the
call agreens, so I want to do both. I don't
like your little I cut the call of Greens every well, yeah,
that's fine. I'll give you my whole recipe. Y'all. Listen
to the Thanksgiving Day episode and y'all, y'all, y'all might
want to watch that video, so in double down or

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take it back. I didn't want to play really a clip,
but I wanted to talk about we've had multiple viral
clips take place. Pretty good, baby, And if y'all want
to know, because I know you little hate and ask
niggas be over there looking at the YouTube numbers. Maybe
according to Black Effect, our numbers have jumped by thirty
one point four percent. Okay, we is going up, up

(08:41):
and up over here. So I love that y'all are
enjoying the show. But I wanted to talk to both
of you. I don't know if you collapsed on them,
but I see a king has been collabor collaborating on
our social post, and I wanted to know because everyone says,
just don't read the comments, you're affecting your own mental health.

(09:02):
How has it been to have all of that flooded
into your phone as soon as you open it up,
because because you're a collaborator, you can't run from those
comments and you're responding to people. So I want to oh,
he responded.

Speaker 3 (09:16):
So I delete a lot of the original comments that
I wanted to go because yeah, yeah, you gotta measure
who are these people? How crazy would these people be
in real life? So I'm like, you know what, I
don't want to trigger nobody. So I try to be
big bro, like hey, pipe down perspective, try to be

(09:36):
nice a little bit. Not that I want to be,
but it's like I could be like, man, fuck you
bitch as, but.

Speaker 1 (09:40):
No, no, no, you gotta be more petty. So when you
go to their pages to see who they are, the
first thing I do that picture, no I look.

Speaker 4 (09:49):
At I'd be like, yeah, let me see.

Speaker 1 (09:51):
They always ugly, they got selfie.

Speaker 2 (09:57):
A lot of them have a Bible quote.

Speaker 1 (09:59):
Oh no, no, no, no, you know it all what y'are
doing the wrong? You gotta look to see if they
have r I P. Somebody say it says r I P. Tommy,
I'm responding Tommy would be rolling in his brave right now.

Speaker 3 (10:12):
See it.

Speaker 1 (10:13):
This is how you spend in your life. He should
be here insteady.

Speaker 2 (10:16):
You found us listen and do.

Speaker 1 (10:20):
But yeah, like so how is it like you say,
you delete the comments like a pussy, but how does
it make you feel?

Speaker 3 (10:29):
I'm just careful and conscious of I try to be
measured in my reaction because it's.

Speaker 4 (10:33):
Easy to react.

Speaker 3 (10:34):
It is like way, I'm like, yo, really you don't
even know, Like I get it.

Speaker 4 (10:39):
They chime and they see.

Speaker 3 (10:40):
My thing is you're here, You're you're spending time commenting,
so you must fuck with it, right, But I think
it's fascination and a lot of it's not personal amongst
us is more so the community against the community and opinions.
And you know, I see the discourse amongst the comments
sections that's pretty.

Speaker 2 (10:56):
Discourse is real.

Speaker 4 (10:57):
I mean yeah, I mean I just try not to
take a person for me.

Speaker 1 (11:00):
For me, it's seeing the comments where.

Speaker 4 (11:04):
Then like they just pay queen.

Speaker 1 (11:07):
Though you you do this platform, I don't mind to
be a betty go.

Speaker 4 (11:10):
To Twitter sometimes and you know.

Speaker 1 (11:15):
That's why that's why private My page is not private
on Twitter because someone trying to call that a professional page.
So I don't have a fence to I don't have
a KD account. I say things with my chest and yeah, bitch,
I'll be trying to get brand deals and they'd be like,
we you know, you got to delete that stuff. I
do have beef with you, Kings, because listen, but I

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got I think.

Speaker 2 (11:43):
I got beef with you.

Speaker 3 (11:44):
And I'm over here trying to be measured on comments
and she's just like.

Speaker 1 (11:47):
You seen me. Yeah you've seen ro mellow to that too,
you know, because he didn't already commented thirty times.

Speaker 3 (11:58):
Even if you look at my comments, they're more so like,
you know, just keeping the conversation in the traffic clean.
I also put put it in one of the comment
I said, hey, everybody be respectful.

Speaker 4 (12:06):
This is a place of community and good vibes.

Speaker 1 (12:09):
And yeah, I will say the reach of our clips
recently have gone crazy. I know Tank has been going
back and forth in the comments with people Jermaine Dupree.

Speaker 4 (12:22):
Oh he said, l O L. But then it's like
five four hundred people saying.

Speaker 3 (12:26):
Yo, boy, wonder they're trying to trigger him, like what
you think about this though, And.

Speaker 1 (12:30):
I'm like, ridiculous, it's crazy. So my beef with you
is in one of the clips. That is also being
heavily engaged. I go to the clip and I say, damn,
A king is not my friend?

Speaker 4 (12:46):
What I do? Man?

Speaker 2 (12:47):
You like something crazy, didn't you?

Speaker 4 (12:49):
I like everybody shit? That's my thank you, thank you
for engagement.

Speaker 1 (12:53):
I'm taking this off the internet.

Speaker 4 (12:55):
What happened?

Speaker 1 (12:56):
Bro? My lips were so chapped in the clip? I said,
did this nigga not feel the need to tell me
to lick my fucking lips while I'm talking ship? So
I look crazy talking ship with chapped lips. I look
like that character that motherfuckingation baby b because you were
sitting right there.

Speaker 4 (13:16):
Man, do you see I gotta see the clips you
don't want I wasn't. I don't watch your lips.

Speaker 2 (13:21):
Man, Damn my daughter. My daughter's lips look like this, bro.

Speaker 1 (13:25):
And I know the weather. It's changing right now. So
that was probably one of those.

Speaker 4 (13:30):
Look at looks.

Speaker 1 (13:33):
No, Bro, Go to the one where we talked about.
Go to the Spike person. Bro, we we record a
long time. I'm talking. Maybe the air was dry, broh.

Speaker 4 (13:48):
Bottom up, it's like Kobe.

Speaker 1 (13:53):
Bigger, that bottom lit that that bottom lip was the
same era and you know, hold on, you know what
I know yes, hold on by the way, by the
way about page. Of course, somebody who doesn't have a
picture was like, DMN, so I know other people see it,
and I'm like, damn, I'm over here talking about Spike

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Lee and they put on no.

Speaker 3 (14:15):
Car mass, so you know they're gonna fire your ass up.

Speaker 4 (14:19):
I was like, one person that saw that is a creep.

Speaker 1 (14:22):
No, because then I can't see it now. I saw
it and I was like, I'm.

Speaker 2 (14:29):
You face, it's hard to see on the screen.

Speaker 1 (14:38):
I glossed up the lips today. Maybe you might be
able to see the camera in these glossy lips now
that I'm trying not to cry laughing. But that ship listen.

Speaker 2 (14:49):
Yo, But that experience, I understand what. I understand why
people have fences now because it makes it. It makes
my Instagram feel like it's broken. All these motherfuckers popping
manship and I'm.

Speaker 4 (15:01):
Like, it's a lot.

Speaker 1 (15:02):
It's a lot. It's a lot.

Speaker 2 (15:04):
I just saw the bunch went over No.

Speaker 1 (15:07):
It's a lot. Like and so where people are like,
oh my god, you only respond to that, and I'm like,
this becomes a toll, bro like this a lot.

Speaker 3 (15:18):
The four Agreements, one of them says don't take nothing personal.
So that's how that's how you operate.

Speaker 4 (15:24):
With this this digital space too. Oh okay, because people
have access to you, they feel like they could talk
to you.

Speaker 3 (15:28):
Any kind of way they do, and depending on who
you are, you know, like you like were out and about.
So it's like what's to say with somebody like, yo,
I ain't like what you said, and we have to
have a confrontation about it.

Speaker 2 (15:43):
But I can get good to that point though.

Speaker 4 (15:44):
Do you think I feel like it's people, That's what
I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (15:46):
I feel like it's people who will say like they're
like ten years younger than us. Right, They're just on
their phone. They're not going to click the look of
who anybody is. They're just going to see a clip.
I don't agree with it. It's target. I'm just gonna
fire off.

Speaker 1 (15:58):
Well no, no, no, no, but that's the thing. No, No,
this clip at this point is what two three weeks old? Bro,
they are.

Speaker 2 (16:06):
Still going do we say what the clip was?

Speaker 1 (16:09):
Well, there's a few that's gone viral. So the Glasses
Malone clip where he's talking about Drake compares, it's not
viral yet. It's not viral with numbers but comments the
Spike the conversations around the Spike lead film. Another clip
that we went viral was the if he likes you

(16:29):
You'll know which A lot of people were walking around
that one too, And then there's one more. I can't think,
but like they've been you know what though, that's the
purpose of the kind of conversations we choose to have here,
and it's so that you know, people can feel something

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and have an opinion that, boy, do they feel it
like that. By the way, y'all can have your own opinions.
I had to respond to somebody on YouTube on the
episode where I was critiquing Let's Fight Lee Joy. They
said Mandy can't even handle criticism or anyone else having
their own opinion. I was like, bitch, that's what the
whole motherfucker platform is for, is literally to invite other opinions,

(17:12):
and y'all know I love to agree to disagree. I'm
not pushing my opinion on anybody that listens here. I'm
not sitting across from people who feel like they have
to keep going to change my mind, because maybe it's
hard to change my mind. I'm a little subburn, I'm
a little hard headed. I know these things about me,
But I absolutely welcome critique. I welcome criticism. I welcome

(17:34):
other opinions all the time. Now do I listen to
you bitches all the time?

Speaker 3 (17:38):
No, No, I don't, But I would encourage the listeners
or the people who comment. It's the same conversation you're
having amongst yourselves on the phone, you're talking to your
homies or your sister, your mama in the house, whatever.

Speaker 4 (17:48):
It's just that we are doing this professionally. We talk
about the shit like.

Speaker 2 (17:52):
There's a lot of good ones, even if I disagree
with them. There's a lot of good ones in that
people like going back and forth with us, not the ones.

Speaker 1 (17:59):
Thet I wasn't.

Speaker 2 (18:00):
I wasn't even looking at their opinions. When people will
be like, it's a remake, as if enough for us.

Speaker 1 (18:10):
It's good now, it's good now. It was a remake.

Speaker 4 (18:14):
It was something like, you know, this is a nineteen
fifties and a lot of people.

Speaker 2 (18:20):
Yeah, I'm like, bro, and I was.

Speaker 1 (18:24):
I went back and forth with Peace singer. What's his
name is it Patrick? No, it's not Patrick. I want
to get the name right. But he's the creator of
all American and it's based on his story, And he
was like, I just want Spike Lee to create his own,
his own ip like he.

Speaker 4 (18:42):
Remakes. Yeah, yeah, do you see.

Speaker 1 (18:45):
His first name? I want to get it right because
I think he's incredible with the things he's been able
to do. And I think All American is actually based
on his story. I know it starts with a pee.
I don't know anyways, Yeah, and I agree with that.
I'm like, he us just lean into the remakes, and
I think as a culture, we're a little over the.

Speaker 4 (19:05):
Remax already, Like, but it wasn't. It wasn't an obvious remake.
Though it wasn't.

Speaker 1 (19:10):
I think it wasn't good, but we ain't got to
react that it wasn't.

Speaker 4 (19:14):
Yeah, I'll say this.

Speaker 3 (19:15):
I told one of my friends yesterday, I said, you know,
referring to the clip, I said, well, I hope that
Ryan Coogler and Denzel do some amazing work in the
upcoming Black Panther three. I don't see how If he
fucked that up, then I'm gonna be told then I'll
be pissed because I think people were kind of.

Speaker 1 (19:32):
Yes, there we go, Spencer pacing.

Speaker 3 (19:34):
I think people kind of on the fence about Gladiator
Too as well his performance and Gladiator Too.

Speaker 1 (19:40):
You talk yeah, okay, And I said it here? Did
I say here? Or I think I said it on
on Decisions Decisions? After I saw O Fellow, I liked him.
The problem is that gave Brownsville. It didn't give that
he was in wrong, I said, niggas, they just dropped
the jigga off from Brooklyn out in the middle of Rome.

(20:02):
Ain't the only nig like it was to me. It
was just that he didn't even try to like sound Romish, Roman,
medieval whatever the time, glady, And that's only problem. I
was like this niggas straight from the jay Z the
brown line. Anyways, we are gonna get down for some

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ignorance and start with this is America.

Speaker 4 (20:26):
Don't got the slipping on it.

Speaker 1 (20:28):
He said what I said the docs right, So before
we get into this. I used to have a podcast
that no longer exists, but I was bringing to that
podcast something that I really liked. Again, as a Florida
native Fall seven Chappa City, I was bringing like Florida

(20:49):
News at one point, just because I could always find
something fucking nuts that happened.

Speaker 2 (20:56):
By the way, there's a reason, Yeah, did you can
always find stuff in Florida because it's on media laws.
Media laws in Florida are different, so you can get
access to arrest records in a way that you can't
in other cities.

Speaker 1 (21:08):
Come on journalism, So it's not is that why?

Speaker 2 (21:11):
Yeah, so it's not so like the the Freedom Information
Act laws in Florida. They make it easier for media
to find out about police arrests compared to like.

Speaker 1 (21:20):
Yeah, but but here's the thing.

Speaker 2 (21:21):
Granted, they still they could be doing wild stuff in Alabama.
We just thought we don't know that information media and
they get the social media. So that's really like why
the Florida man meme kind of exists because of that. Wow,
it's not just because they are.

Speaker 1 (21:38):
I really thought it's because I thought I thought the
bad sauce got it to the got it to the
water and the filstration and they was just like, Okay,
now everybody a little cuckoo down there. Well good, no
good to know. Well, spoiler alert just want to say that,
And it's not really a spoiler alert because these are
real stories, and so if you watch documentaries, if you

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watch things like that, you can't really spoil it because
these are based on true stories, and I guess we'll
start with the first one that I've seen the most
people talk about online and even in person. I was
my homeboy hit me up, I think one night to
go to Magic City, and I was like, Man, I'm
in the house tonight watching his dog balling my eyes out.

(22:22):
Immediately he said that doc about the neighbor already knew
what I was talking about. So y'all, there's a Netflix
documentary out right now called The Perfect Neighbor, called The
Perfect Neighbor, and it's basically a story that was vividly caught. Also,
by the way, there's really no interviews, no reenactments. It's
all told through the bodycams of the police people who

(22:45):
kept getting called and having to deal with this. But basically,
Karen moved into the neighborhood and kept complaining about the
kids playing in her yard and tspassing and trespassing on
mind you, the bitch was a renter. It wasn't even
heard her property essentially, and basically, after numerous, numerous, numerous

(23:06):
calls for disturbing the peace, which is what the kids
were doing, she ended up shooting through her door and
killing one of the mothers and you again, you just
got to see all of it. It was heartbreaking. I
think for me, it took me back to my childhood,
looking at the houses, looking at the street I grew

(23:26):
up in. You know, I'm from the nineties, which we
was outside. You know, we played in the yards like
that's literally what kids did. So to see that they
were even I didn't know kids still went outside. I
thought they was on iPads and shit now, So to
see that they were literally just doing what I did,
and to know that they experienced this tragic loss, it
was heartbreaking. I know that. And I want to ask y'all,

(23:48):
and my question for bringing this up is I watched
it knowing what the ending was going to be. Yeah,
and there's so many people that continue to say that
we don't want to keep seeing these tragic stories, specifically
within our community.

Speaker 4 (24:01):
Okay, how do we not?

Speaker 3 (24:04):
If we don't care about it, we'll never know or
have any reasoning. Is to first of all the community
that that that they lived that this environment.

Speaker 1 (24:12):
You Marion County, I'm Orange County, So this so what
wasn't far away?

Speaker 3 (24:15):
What was the demographic of people that lived in your
community when you were grown up there.

Speaker 1 (24:20):
That's that's the thing. Very mixed, like we had the
Puerto Rican family across the street, we had the cat
lady next door, we had the white we had a
white family, we had blacks. We had mixed. Like I'm
from Orlando, so very an blue collar, blue collar, but
a mix like white people, black people, Puerto Ricans, Mexicans, Jamaican's, Haitians.

(24:42):
Like my school, My my neighborhood was filled with everyone,
but very blue collar, middle class. My house was Section eight,
so I'm sure there were Section eight homes in the neighborhood.

Speaker 4 (24:53):
Type type ship.

Speaker 3 (24:54):
So I say that to say, like her mentality, you know,
her being the suspect shooting through the doors.

Speaker 4 (25:00):
She don't like.

Speaker 3 (25:01):
She didn't like her neighbors anyway, no care for black
and brown people, and that.

Speaker 4 (25:07):
Was just her way of like, ah got them finally.

Speaker 1 (25:10):
And to be fair, it's interesting because of course we
consider Florida a state of its own right. It's not
considered the.

Speaker 2 (25:18):
It's the island of about in the United States.

Speaker 1 (25:25):
Florida, the staten island of the United States, is nuts.

Speaker 4 (25:28):
It's not no, No, I.

Speaker 1 (25:30):
Wouldn't go that far. I wouldn't go that far. It literally,
but it's not considered the South right, So a lot
of people don't realize or are aware of the racism
that is down there. Like a lot of people assume
that it's just Latina, but even Miami is all Latinas essentially,

(25:50):
like or.

Speaker 2 (25:51):
You have yournations in South Beach, South Beach and.

Speaker 1 (25:57):
Baby no, like you have very day the crackers crack, crack,
maybe cracking down up And so to watch this was
really sad. I will say, I love that justice essentially
was served, she was given time. And if you haven't

(26:17):
seen it yet, it was just shot so beautiful.

Speaker 2 (26:21):
Can I talk a little bit like it's tragic? So
it's all body cam footage like you said.

Speaker 1 (26:26):
And Ajika Owens, I'm sorry. It's her name.

Speaker 2 (26:29):
That's the woman who got shot, who got shot and
killed by a white women, And the title of it
is that that's the neighbor. She referred to herself as
the perfect neighbor. She kept calling police over and over here.
And I think what's so tragic about it is like
it's it's it's it's over a long time, right, It's
not like static, It's like it's.

Speaker 1 (26:47):
Like ten ten or eleven months, like almost a year where.

Speaker 2 (26:51):
She keeps calling, and she keeps calling, and like you
just see like the dissolution of like I don't even
say it was like a real relationship, but like you know,
like her relationship to the community just keeps on like
the vault, like dissolving, dissolving. Police you can see that
they're not on her side. No, they show up and
they go to the neighbors like like we're gonna handle this,
We're gonna go talk to them.

Speaker 1 (27:11):
They're their kids, like their kids.

Speaker 2 (27:13):
Their kids playing in grass, and you can see they're
good kids. Even when the cops come, they the kids,
even though like you're coming again, you're coming again for
this woman and then that woman, Like when you said
it took it back to childhood, I thought you did say,
Like I had a neighbor like that who was like
just the one off woman who was like probably divorced,
living in the wrong community, and she just holds themselves
up so much higher than everybody else, so everything is

(27:36):
like to their inconvenience when like you keep saying, they're
just kids.

Speaker 1 (27:39):
For me, I saw my childhood. Yeah, like when I
watched it, like and again, it's because even seeing the
police cars come like Mary County eate part way, Like
you know, it looks like they all look like the
state patrol cards and the houses look the same even
though they were duplexes. I was like, this is so reminiscent,
and I just I broke down right, meaning I could

(28:05):
have had that experience absolutely, And it was so crazy
just seeing the father having to share that their mom
wasn't coming back.

Speaker 2 (28:14):
Oh I don't want to, by the way, and the
tragic the police said, if she if she meaning the neighbor,
if she's bothering y'all, this is what the police say
to the kids. They're not saying this to the woman
who keeps calling. If she keeps bothering, y'all, just go
and tell your parents.

Speaker 1 (28:27):
So yeah, that was the thing, and went to the door.

Speaker 2 (28:32):
And on some bit ship she shot at her door.
What is your take on the kids. I thought the
kids were like super sweet.

Speaker 1 (28:37):
I know the kids were kids.

Speaker 2 (28:39):
They were really measured and like for this to keep
happening all the time, Like even though way they said
Karen wasn't like yeah, they didn't have the bite. It
was just a matter of fact, like, oh she's a Karen.

Speaker 1 (28:48):
Yeah, And and of course So this took place in
twenty twenty three, which is when Karen started coming out,
especially around BLM, and when you know, we started seeing
that start happening. You know, I feel bad at this
point for any white woman named Karen. Ain't who ain't
doing the Karen ship. Now, if you are a white
woman named Karen doing Karens ship, fuck you.

Speaker 2 (29:10):
If you knew a Karen, I think Karen, I would change.

Speaker 1 (29:13):
I would change my name of this.

Speaker 4 (29:14):
I would.

Speaker 1 (29:14):
That is a name that needs to be changed because
if I'm a child, I ain't even hiring a white
woman named Karen.

Speaker 4 (29:19):
If you're a good white took key, so they probably
would hire.

Speaker 1 (29:23):
They would hide. Can I'm saying I ain't hiring a Karen.

Speaker 2 (29:27):
If I was a good white and my name was Karen,
I was a woman, I would. I would change it.

Speaker 1 (29:31):
I would change.

Speaker 4 (29:32):
Would you doom or no?

Speaker 1 (29:33):
I talk about my middle name?

Speaker 4 (29:34):
Would you at least give them one zoom meeting just
a pre precursor.

Speaker 1 (29:38):
Zoom meeting is either you could change your name, go
by your middle name. Bitch, don't get on that bitch
called Karen. Don't do it. Don't do it. By the way,
I do know a few good karts. I'm just saying
that because I know a few good ones, all right,
But I'm about to maybe tell them they.

Speaker 2 (29:52):
Should be going about the middle name. That's a lightlift
light left.

Speaker 1 (29:56):
Lightlift, lightlift. So the second doc which I.

Speaker 2 (30:00):
Have conclusion of it, but she's in jail. She's in jail, Yeah,
twenty five years. But she's trying to sue the children
of the mom, which is the defamation.

Speaker 1 (30:12):
Second that's like, okay, hold on, hold on, you're giving
me the news.

Speaker 2 (30:16):
Yeah, the woman that's like as of like this, the
woman in jailah the chart. Even Susan, by the way,
which not.

Speaker 4 (30:24):
I think Susan's defense Susan.

Speaker 2 (30:26):
Susan's Susan listening here, Susan, if you're listening, you got
six months to make a decision.

Speaker 1 (30:31):
I'm not gonna no, no, no, I'm not gonna lie.
Sun karens those are those can only be white names
kind of.

Speaker 2 (30:37):
But do you know black Susan?

Speaker 4 (30:41):
Yes, do you do do.

Speaker 2 (30:42):
A black Susan?

Speaker 1 (30:43):
Probably eighty?

Speaker 4 (30:44):
Yeah, But is she Caribbean? Dallas his wife is, but
she's far from Karen Susan.

Speaker 2 (30:51):
I don't think Susan blacks Susan.

Speaker 4 (30:54):
Is close to Karen.

Speaker 2 (30:56):
That's what I'm saying. That's why I think you have
you have time. You have to make it up.

Speaker 4 (30:58):
You're thinking, you guys, how much six months?

Speaker 2 (31:01):
You got six months, so that might be the next
by midterms, you gotta change.

Speaker 1 (31:05):
That's going to be the spicy one.

Speaker 4 (31:06):
Yeah, su Karen, that is crazy.

Speaker 2 (31:09):
This Karen did, not Susan.

Speaker 1 (31:11):
She's suing threatening, she's threatening your children for defamation deformation
because of the documentary.

Speaker 4 (31:20):
But how all the kids now what stages.

Speaker 1 (31:22):
They're also under? So this is places twenty twenty three.

Speaker 2 (31:25):
In twenty twenty three, it was the main kid was ten.

Speaker 4 (31:29):
So she just putting a gag on them, like shut
the fuck up, No, no, no.

Speaker 1 (31:31):
Probably what what money do these children?

Speaker 4 (31:35):
She shot a mom, that's okay.

Speaker 2 (31:37):
She she wants to shut it down.

Speaker 1 (31:40):
Listen. She thought she was running shit. Y'all saw her
in that goddamn confession room, like no, she's not gonna
go with you.

Speaker 2 (31:46):
She didn't even testify.

Speaker 4 (31:47):
I see that.

Speaker 2 (31:47):
She was like like righteous anger. She felt right, didn't
even have to fun.

Speaker 4 (31:52):
So that means she thought that she was above the law.

Speaker 1 (31:55):
She didn't think no, no, she well here's the thing
about Florida, which is what you've all learned, especially.

Speaker 2 (32:01):
With stand Yeah, I have a statistic, Yes, give me
the statistics. So a twenty thirteen Department of Justice study
on standard ground laws specifically in Florida, found that white
on black homicides, which is what happened here, were more
likely to be rule justified because of the seven percent
versus black on white homicides, which were least likely be

(32:23):
justified one to Oh shit.

Speaker 1 (32:28):
Wow, I'd like to see because because of where we're
at now, I mean systemically, I think racism is a
lot more in our face, and.

Speaker 4 (32:38):
So this is a sophisticated racism.

Speaker 1 (32:40):
Well this is a twelve year old stat right, but
with what we're seeing now, especially with Trump having already
served in office, this is a stat before he served
his first term, and then now what he's in now,
I would predict that those numbers would I would predict
that those numbers would go up. The next documentary was
really interesting and had me in a lot of thoughts.

(33:03):
So Eileen Queen of serial Killers, she is actually only
the third. She was recorded as the third person in
the state of Florida to receive the death penalty. She
was a sex worker who did endure a lot of
traumatic childhood experiences. So she left home at fourteen years
old and got right onto the streets, and you're kind

(33:26):
of introduced into her childhood. She was raised by adoptive
parents after her her mom died of an illness, and
she goes straight into the streets for survival, and she
pretty much talks about being raped sexually assaulted in excess
of thirty times while being a sex worker, and essentially

(33:49):
she ends up in a lesbian relationship. This is important
in the doc because a lot of people assume that
this person is actually responsible for why the crimes began.
But she buys a gun, which is legal in the
stay of Florida, to protect yourself. And in the first
killing that she did, she murders a guy who was

(34:10):
brutally assaulting her, and she shares those details on the
stand and pretty much goes into no one else is
going to do this to me again, and she ends
up killing about seven men. They are all white, middle aged.
By the way they say middle age, these niggas look oh,
but I know, white cracks a little different. They all

(34:31):
looked about sixty five years old and I'm like, we're
calling sixty five middle aged, but they were all seven
middle aged white men, and Florida failed her. The justice
system failed her. I think it's what I've said if
you listen to my take about even what's happened in
the Dutty case. In terms of sex workers, there's just
literally no empathy, no sympathy, no humanizing of someone who

(34:57):
goes into that line of work for survival. And it's
set and it's pretty much what you see in this documentary.
It was interesting because once she got on death row,
she sits with a journalist and starts saying it was
a little tricky, like one guy, she just ended up
shooting him just because. And I was like, oh, girl,
now you're losing me, bitch, you're losing me because I'm

(35:19):
fine with and I say it all the time, if
you are a rapist or a pedophile, you could be
under the ground for all I give a goddamn you
know what I mean. And so yeah, by the way,
her name is Eileen Warnos. She did admit to killing
these men, but essentially she was given the death penalty.
And I want to add to this, sex worker killed

(35:43):
seven men receive the death penalty unanimously. Yeah, y'all. Ted
Bundy did not receive the death penalty. There are numerous
other serial killers that were tried in the state of
Florida and did not receive the death penalty, and Ted
Bundy being a big one, there's other one, and I
wish I would have looked it up. But from Oklahoma

(36:03):
was yeah, well, and Dahmer wasn't in Florida, but I
didn't want to bring it. But Dahmer, I don't even
think received the death penalty.

Speaker 2 (36:10):
Did he.

Speaker 4 (36:11):
Let's see.

Speaker 1 (36:13):
I think the Zodiac killer may, but there hasn't been many.
Like they're just they get to live the rest of
their life until they die old, right, you know what
I mean? And so she got just a really really
harsh sentence, and I feel like it was because the
prosecutor saw himself in a lot of the victims. Also,

(36:34):
to share with you guys, they decided to overlook the
fact that the first man she killed had a record
of brutally assaulting and raping other women and he was
on the loose. There's a psychological report that literally said
he would be a harm to the community, and he
was still able to come out and do those things.

(36:55):
So I ain't got no sympathy for that nigga or
the other ones, but there was one.

Speaker 2 (36:59):
That she said she was interesting I felt. And by
the way, she's the woman that they based that movie
Monster on with at least down I felt uncomfortable watching it,
just a I wanted to ask you about you like
mad Trauma, Like mad trauma. She was born in Detroit,
like man trauma, before she even got the Florida, before
she got when she got to Florida Mad trauma. But

(37:19):
then like she's almost like like like there's equal like
people putting her down, but then there's some like pedestaling.
It feels like with it, like.

Speaker 1 (37:32):
Where have you seen pedestaling? Because what I found interesting
was because she wasn't.

Speaker 2 (37:39):
Beautiful in the movie.

Speaker 1 (37:41):
But because she wasn't beautiful, I think that and we
see that with criminals too. It's what we saw with
Tim Buddy. They thought he was so fine. Like, let's
be very clearis that's Luigi? Oh, I go hold you?
Them niggas that sold the Loop? Hey them man that
rode the loop? Baby, did y'all see the song that
was no, Oh my God, I'm gonna find it and

(38:04):
enter it? Here because it was so funny. He yeah,
I just wanted to make sure that was included. So
cute this gay guy was like, maybe they could come
ribe me, come break me all the things ironically too,
And no, no, no, I'm not sure if it was true.
But did you see that they said that the password
to get into the louver? Yeah was loop literally Brodie,

(38:27):
people be dumb out here, bruh. Anyways, I felt like
she wasn't pedestaled or anything like that because she wasn't
naturally beautiful.

Speaker 2 (38:36):
Maybe I felt like the filmmaker like when they were
showing like her talking to reporters, like they were so
happy to be speaking with her, and like even taking
pictures with her before the interview, like it was it
was just interesting.

Speaker 1 (38:48):
Well because it was complex. Well, this took place in
the nineties. I believe she was tried in like ninety
three or something like that. But if we think about
it too, this was around the time that serial killers
became like maybe twenty years prior is when the word
serial killer even became a thing. So people, are you.

Speaker 2 (39:08):
Know, I've just clipped her in sixty minutes that I
wanted to play okay, because you said something about her
like the system failing her. And she kind of talks
about that in this interview, like she she was really
well a feelings.

Speaker 1 (39:22):
Yes, and not to not to sound that, but if
you saw what she looked like, knowing she left school early,
her teeth, knowing she was in the streets. Ye, she
she could speak like she she could she communicated herself.

Speaker 2 (39:37):
Well, this is a clip where they asked her like
if she hates men, but and that's a simple question,
but she takes it further about that's not a good question,
by the way. Okay, do you hate It's been a
well worn question, it's been asked, yes, but she takes
the answer somewhere different.

Speaker 1 (39:52):
Okay, let me hear this.

Speaker 6 (39:55):
Do you feel anger or even hatred towards men?

Speaker 1 (39:58):
I never hated men, but now I do.

Speaker 2 (40:02):
I mean not all.

Speaker 1 (40:02):
I have a category.

Speaker 2 (40:04):
I hate those mail God, I hate those I'm blanking.

Speaker 1 (40:13):
Real bad because.

Speaker 7 (40:14):
They're dirt balls.

Speaker 8 (40:16):
The cops, the judges, lawyers.

Speaker 1 (40:18):
They're all male.

Speaker 7 (40:19):
I have made peace with my Lord and I have
asked forgiveness.

Speaker 6 (40:25):
And this already mad tale was when Lee one also
decided to plead no contest to the remaining six murder charges.

Speaker 2 (40:33):
Sentence you in case number ninety one, that's four sixty
three to death for the murder of Troy Burris.

Speaker 6 (40:40):
For lawyer Steve Glazier found himself in the bizarre position
of helping his client take the express root.

Speaker 2 (40:49):
Because she was a matter of fact like she did it.

Speaker 1 (40:52):
So she said she hated the cops, lawyer, and in
the documentary, of course, she hated that men had.

Speaker 2 (40:59):
Treated her the way and didn't protect her as well.

Speaker 1 (41:04):
I'm not mad at her feeling that way. I think
she's valid in her feelings, and I think, to be fair,
there's a lot of women. I mean, I want to
be I don't want to be the one to say it.
But y'all saw the article going around the internet, right,
that's now embarrassing to have a boyfriend. Y'all see it?
Tell me you so. I think it's on Vogue of

(41:25):
a riot or something, But there's an article that people
are responding to that says it is now embarrassing to
have a boyfriend.

Speaker 2 (41:32):
Vogue and having a boyfriend embarrassing.

Speaker 1 (41:36):
And the conversation is that, like what is being offered
is the bare minimum, and it's that these niggas will
try you and so there's also a lot of studies
saying that women are staying single longer and choosing themselves
over men. Listen, or or they're pushing them to be lesbian.
Look and listen. I don't want to blame men for

(42:00):
being lesbians, because I do believe you could be born gay, right,
and gay is lesbian?

Speaker 4 (42:04):
Lesbian have a desire for another woman.

Speaker 1 (42:07):
Oh, I ain't gonna hold you. I I have friends
now that are like, they'll try women at this point.
So they weren't they weren't, they weren't gay. But because
men is so tragic, trash, tragic, embarrassing.

Speaker 4 (42:27):
I mean, so women and women relationships is a slam dunk.

Speaker 1 (42:31):
I mean to me women, No, No, there's absolutely toxic women.
I do there are sic.

Speaker 4 (42:38):
The worst thing is with men.

Speaker 2 (42:39):
It's not the toxic men. It's like with Insecure when
I remember she said, like, you think you're one of
the good ones to homeboy what.

Speaker 4 (42:46):
Was his name?

Speaker 2 (42:47):
Raised boyfriend and Insecure were the blue best boy shirt. Oh,
Lawrence Laurence. Yeah, remember when when he left ray and
he dated the next girl, right, and he seemed to
have his ship together, but he ended up leading her
on anyway, and she called him out and she's like,
you're worse than like the toxic man because you think
that you're a good one. And then she, you know,
she's let's.

Speaker 1 (43:06):
Be very clear, but everybody, no, men don't think they're
the problem at all point at all. And there is
a problem.

Speaker 4 (43:17):
There is a problem, maybe because y'all.

Speaker 1 (43:18):
Are talking to women on podcasts and talking to each other.
I don't know, I'm gonna.

Speaker 4 (43:23):
Say that to each other, but the wrong each other's.

Speaker 2 (43:25):
Single man talk to single man talking single should talk
to man, talking to the wrong people. Married man talk
to married man, and single man talk to single man.

Speaker 4 (43:32):
Married man should be talking to single man. A great experience.

Speaker 3 (43:35):
People who we can't have conversations with people who don't
have the Lirics living experience. That's why when we do
therapy we go to them because they have the lived
experience in perspective. But if we just talking to the
homies about real ship and he just mad that bitch,
that's it.

Speaker 1 (43:52):
But even then, okay, hold on, good ignorant, take care, no, no, no,
it mayby married niggas is the best side niggas. What
are you talking about married men or historically? But make
them good and they still have all the.

Speaker 4 (44:12):
Side family members.

Speaker 3 (44:14):
We all have family members who I have an uncle
and even to this day rest in peace.

Speaker 4 (44:18):
I was like, how was he able to have a
beautiful wife?

Speaker 3 (44:22):
But he also and it was it was a lot
of funny dynamics going on, but he always made sure.
He always made sure that he kept his nose clean
in spite of all of us knowing his ship. But
it wasn't like it was kind of if you know that,
I'm your point. I'm like, perspective, right, Maybe he was
just participating in satisfying two women at the same time and.

Speaker 1 (44:49):
Arrangement arrangement did the wife ain't no bad, but he
was seeking arrangements or back in the day, actually.

Speaker 3 (44:55):
He's contributing to the better of society because one of
the women don't have to now have the experiences.

Speaker 2 (45:02):
He's a good run, my brother.

Speaker 4 (45:03):
I'm just saying maybe that. I'm not saying, I'm not
why why did Why was that?

Speaker 3 (45:10):
Because both of them, I mean, the wife was stressed out,
you know, throughout the process obviously, but the other one
she was.

Speaker 1 (45:18):
Was because she was in she was delusional, but they
always making it.

Speaker 4 (45:24):
Was No, I'm not saying I agree. I'm just saying
that you just said that.

Speaker 1 (45:28):
You just said, Mary nigh. Either they make the best
way I can't.

Speaker 4 (45:31):
I can't take that, but they make the best what.

Speaker 2 (45:34):
I don't know if if you.

Speaker 4 (45:36):
Noticed she said married man may.

Speaker 2 (45:39):
Explain because a cover.

Speaker 1 (45:41):
No, no, no, no. So this is what I'm saying, second wife, No,
you don't not all the time. First off, not all
these married men got Mayweather money. Okay, there are a
lot of blue collar married niggas out here cheating still
and the side chick just get time so they might
get the day before.

Speaker 4 (46:02):
What's the benefit of a married dating a married man.
That sounds crazy.

Speaker 1 (46:06):
No, you're ready. Some some women just want attention. It's
not even no, it's not even a king. Let's be
very clear. There's benefits if the man has money and
the man is a trick cool, But there are a
lot of women who just want to be in a
relationship and are they go.

Speaker 4 (46:22):
To him because he knows he has and are.

Speaker 1 (46:24):
Willing to share a man who.

Speaker 4 (46:26):
Has somewhat of an idea of what that.

Speaker 1 (46:28):
Not even some idea. It could be the dick. It
could be that he comes over and gives time. He
does I have a friend right now who is literally
dating a married man and literally dating a nigga who
just got engaged.

Speaker 4 (46:42):
So maybe we need to reimagine polyN.

Speaker 1 (46:45):
No, no, no, I've the solution is that no one
is is honest, that they're not not a blog.

Speaker 2 (46:56):
I think I think men lie a lot, right, If
you're married, you're not lying. You can't lie right, like
you have the ring on, right, so you can't lie.
And I think at least that a woman knows what
she's getting into this. This is my suspicion for why
women do it. But to real it back into the
main point about why single men should talk to married men. Yeah,
marriage is dope. I'm married, I'm almost married ten years.

(47:17):
Marriage is dope, but super fulfilling. It's hard as fun.
But I think that single men, just when single men
talk to single men about marriage, they wallow in the
cliches of like, ye, you know, I'm clamped down, complaints
rights and that, and not thinking about all the like
fulfilling and like the love aspect.

Speaker 1 (47:34):
She could always just cheat, right, there's that too, but
I'm not playing with y'all. Anyways, let's get into celebrities
say the darnis things, and you know what, based on
like this last topic of Eileen, I want to just
go ahead and start with a clip that I saw.
By the way, this is one of my favorite whites.
I don't have many, but and he's actually problematic because

(47:55):
I think he's the right way. Okay, listen, I don't
say Jason he's white right wing ad Jason. He is.
Of course he is bro He is a fucking mullet.
I can't expect much from him. He has a fucking mullet. Okay,
now I'm talking about podcaster and he is. I'm gonna
take the politics out of it. I think if I
was a white man, I would be probably Theovanne with

(48:18):
the way I think and talk and what I like.
He's funny though.

Speaker 2 (48:25):
The reason why people get stuck on him is like,
you know, he like he had Donald Trump on his podcast,
but instead of like leaning into like the like cliche
like asking Trump shit, he has Trump about addiction because
that happened in his family. Trump is famously like clean,
doesn't drink, doesn't do drugs, and so yeah, and so
Theovonn actually got he showed Trump in a different light,

(48:47):
and so people were kind of confused where like are
you right leaning or but like you seem human and sympathetic,
And so that's why a lot of people are on
the fence with Theovonne.

Speaker 1 (48:58):
I'm not I'm not on the fence. I don't listen.

Speaker 2 (49:01):
That's but it's still people are like, that's.

Speaker 1 (49:04):
A white that I like. Okay, it just is what
it is. Play this clip and we're gonna have a
little bit fun here, and celebrities say the darnist things.

Speaker 8 (49:13):
The one reason why women like true crime and like
murder or murder mystery, yeah, is because at least a
man's committing at least that this guy's gonna kill me, go.

Speaker 4 (49:23):
All the way and it's committment, right, That's why. That's
why women want commitment.

Speaker 8 (49:27):
So it's like, oh, this guy is at least willing
to actually kill me instead of some fucking pussy ass
guy who comes by and just kind of stabs me
and pokes me and makes me get my nails includer
shade of all this stuff just to waste my time.
At least this fucking decent man is gonna come over
here and committed to fucking crime and committed to This.

Speaker 2 (49:50):
Reminds me of the glasses take like I don't know,
but a.

Speaker 1 (49:53):
Well thought out it is a well thought out take.
That is not why women like true crime. I will
tell you that. No, that's nuts. No, no, no, it's it is.
Let's be very clear. Women are like no.

Speaker 2 (50:07):
Ghosting, like you're getting the full You're getting the relationship
full completion.

Speaker 1 (50:11):
However, however, it's just the poke holes at that theory.
One of the most popular true crime things that most
women that I know are addicted to is Snapped. Now,
snapped did come later, But I do blame when I
talk to my mama. My youngest sister were seven years apart,

(50:31):
and so I was at the house she was still
but my mom and her are really close, and the
way that she thinks about dating and men, I have
to blame Goddamn Lifetime. And Lifetime wasn't true crime, but
it was fiction stories often where the man goes psycho
and tries to kill the goddamn fan. The men are

(50:52):
always the villain on Lifetime, and they created a whole
channel where they villainized men for decades and we watched
that as entertainment, and I'm like, that probably did as
much harm to how they say, like hip hop did
tar community in the movie and the lyrics and movies
and all that. Bro, Lifetime did a goddamn number.

Speaker 2 (51:17):
On what so does a straight line from that Lifetime
content to this Vogue article?

Speaker 1 (51:22):
Yeah, listen, I think so, I really think so. And
what else is happening too? And I just talked about
this on my radio show a couple of weeks ago,
is that we're in a revolution currently where and listen,
it's scary because we now want to platform the patriarchy
as women because why the fuck are we all independent?

(51:45):
This is ghetto ghetto And I actually I have two
theories that I want to share. Us wanting to be independent.

Speaker 2 (51:54):
Y'all know where it came from.

Speaker 1 (51:56):
The recession A nine the music industry. We're going neo
Destiny's Child Bosie. All of the songs were praising women
for being independent. We're telling us, oh girl, go be independent,
Go be a boss, bitch, have your own things, pay
your own bills. And guess where I was coming out

(52:17):
of high school in two thousand and nine. They I
was working two three jobs, Like ah, I got my
old I'm doing this now I did. I was still
poor and had to ask for some money from some
niggas from time to time, but it was forcing us
to be independent.

Speaker 4 (52:33):
Right.

Speaker 1 (52:34):
So now a lot of us are in our mid thirties,
late thirties, especially the single ones, a lot of single moms,
and it's like, I need these niggas to pay bills.
So that's why we're seeing the trend right now of
these women asking for goddamn anything four to five dollars.
I said, they need to ask for more, But it's
the trend that went online where men are showing all
these women ask for money. It's because we don't want

(52:55):
to be independent anymore. And so I don't know if
it was Jimmy Iveen, don't know who we got to
blame in the music industry on the back end, but
somebody pushed this independent narrative that has completely I don't
know yet. Maybe it was a broke man.

Speaker 4 (53:10):
Who didn't care.

Speaker 1 (53:11):
I think no, no, no, I think it was I think
it was a brokeschology that the reverse. I think there
was a broke nigga saw writer up.

Speaker 3 (53:20):
What was the song the three dudes from from the
Bronx allarg from us.

Speaker 4 (53:29):
That they might have been the ones. What was the
name of the song pigeon.

Speaker 1 (53:33):
No pigeon, I don't want no pigeon. Yeah, the remix
or whatever. Scrubs scrubs four. No, no, no, no, we're not.
We can't blame cheap skate. I am blake. There is
a man behind this goddamn tragedy, because why throw back.

Speaker 4 (53:53):
I got a man, I got a man. What your
man got to do with me was probably.

Speaker 1 (53:56):
No, no, no, no. That's that's that's how. That's like, like, oh,
my little sea cre like bitches have always been hoss
I'm talking about I'm talking about I know, I'm talking
about the boss saying. I'm talking about the CEO ladies,
y'all know. I'm talking about the women that really thought
we was doing something about paying our own bill and

(54:19):
the ghetto.

Speaker 4 (54:19):
There's a lot of so you know boss babes that's
out here just seeking and I'm like, wow, Wow to
all of that. You got all the succession, the money.

Speaker 1 (54:28):
Still do I want to spend yours? I don't want
to pay my bills anymore.

Speaker 4 (54:33):
They don't want to pump gas, they don't want to
do the ship. I think.

Speaker 3 (54:37):
We got to get back to zero and struggle. I
think that's when we find out.

Speaker 1 (54:41):
No, no, no, no, no, we just we gotta reverse psychology, y'all.
Now we gotta be like, it's so masculine for me
to pay my own bills. Y'all don't like masculine women.
So we gotta start turning all this ship, paying our
own bills, pumping our own gas. It's two masculine ladies.
We gotta be fake feminine again. Somehow. We gotta tell
the man we don't want to be masculine. Y'all want femininity, right,

(55:04):
Oh my god, pay my bills. That's such a masculine duty,
That's what I'm saying. Not for me.

Speaker 6 (55:15):
Got to hear it.

Speaker 2 (55:17):
Yeah, yeah, we.

Speaker 1 (55:20):
Gotta make it really okay. My other theory and then
I want to know if y'all have any theories. My
other theory I have is why men play video games.
And my theory around men playing video games is because
it is just another metaverse that y'all can enter. Hear
me out, men, ladies. I don't know why we didn't

(55:43):
get God didn't give it to us. But the way
that men can have all these different families, they don't
have to save twenty four hours in a day. They
live in different worlds. Different universes, and so video games
just allows them to get in the other little universe
that they like to get in. And so men like
to like time hop you know the movie with Leonardo DiCaprio.

(56:03):
It's not a dream for y'all. Exception is real. Y'all
get like multiple twenty four hours in the day. Y'all
just got to jump through different metaverses. So that's why
y'all like video games so much, because it just allows
y'all to be in a whole nother little metaverse.

Speaker 2 (56:16):
I have a gaming Am I ignorant that I can't
wait to get you in a.

Speaker 1 (56:20):
Cool well, we're gonna get into that, but that is Yeah,
that that's my thing. Do y'all have any theories that
y'all think at all? And don't take too much time thinking.

Speaker 4 (56:27):
All women m My brother taught me that long.

Speaker 1 (56:32):
Time why all women are knows sorry that we want
to be educated. Jesus, we want to know things.

Speaker 2 (56:40):
I al would say all women are crazy because all
men are stupid. And it's the cycle of it.

Speaker 1 (56:45):
You know, I'm not actually gonna breaks all men are stupid, Like, yeah,
it's breaks, and I'm just gonna let you say it.
Because you were man.

Speaker 2 (56:52):
Yeah, no, I think that the wait listen if.

Speaker 4 (56:55):
I said it, I'm a banding women are more mature
than Is that part of that? I think?

Speaker 2 (56:59):
So, you know, there's there's a new thing that's happening
now that families are making their sons start kindergarten a
year later. So girls will start kindergarten at five, boys
will start at six. I see that way.

Speaker 1 (57:13):
No, that's not that works, but it's I think it's like, wooted, Now,
aren't man like ten years behind? This is why ain't
got no problem with Dre and all these bitches dating
these young niggas. There's no problem with that because even
the old niggas ain't caught up yet. By the way,
I think they're all the same.

Speaker 2 (57:30):
I think men are dumb because men front.

Speaker 1 (57:31):
No, I think men stop the front, and they're not.

Speaker 2 (57:33):
Honest with themselves about you.

Speaker 1 (57:35):
Definitely.

Speaker 2 (57:36):
It's like when we see clips like not to Spoils
some clip. It's like when you see like like when
Berg was talking like Cam Newton, and it's like, well,
that's not You're not gonna have a good conversation about
relationships talking like Cam new You know what I mean?
Like Berg was like making some good points, but it's
not gonna bounce back right with Cam.

Speaker 1 (57:51):
Well, let's go ahead and get into Cam because this
might be And now it's crazy.

Speaker 2 (57:57):
This head clip is Cam and Jason.

Speaker 1 (57:58):
I didn't know that there was like different levels to
petty and I strive to be fifty cent petty, but
I don't want to be Cam Newton Petty. It's messy petty.
It's like goofy petty. It's like it's goofy petty. Like
fifty cent is like.

Speaker 3 (58:20):
Usually somebody's poking fifty and he's like, oh, you know what,
I'm not gonna stop.

Speaker 1 (58:24):
Cam is just like, why are you doing this? Do
we want to did you chop up the clip? Because
the clip is a little long and you didn't chop
it up? Okay, So basically, and I'll just I'll go
ahead and say it. But I also have the exact
list in my notes. So Overview is R and B.

(58:44):
Singer Mario sat with Cam Newton on his podcast and
they decided to discuss in a game. By the way,
this is a game. Kim Newton chose to create a
game or maybe one of his producers, but Caim, you
did it on the air Your Game. He decided, I'm
gonna name these singles, and you gotta tell me you
think they could sing. Okay, Sa Georgia, that's the goddamn listen,

(59:08):
that's the goddamn way he did it. So he starts
listing off names of R and B singers and Mario
had to say if he thought that they could sing
or couldn't sing. Here's the list. So who Mario did
approve and believe can't sing is Chris Brown, the Weekend
Trey Songs, and Bobby Valentino. Mario said, these three people

(59:31):
cannot sing o Marion Rey j and Jack Queis, and
then he put Bryson till they're kind of in the middle,
said that Bryson can sing, but doesn't really sing like
he's not a powerhousehold. And so I just want to
be messy because y'all are musical people.

Speaker 2 (59:47):
Jack's got the best voice at all of them.

Speaker 4 (59:49):
No, he sounds like, Okay, a.

Speaker 1 (59:51):
First offle Okay, I'm just I'm actually gonna be biased
here right now, I'm spending Thanksgiving with Jackqueeze. I'm not
speaking about my thoughts to Jack Queis. Okay, by the way,
by the way. By the way, Jacqueize did respond, which
I love that he responded. He called Mario and Cam

(01:00:13):
Newton a bunch of hoes and said that they need
to just keep their dave, keep his Dave out. He's
keep his name out of your mouth. He don't be
bothering nobody.

Speaker 2 (01:00:23):
And the clip to Cam was really pressing Mario. Mario
was trying to like tap dance.

Speaker 1 (01:00:28):
No, no, no, no. Let's be very clear. He came up
in the era where media training was a thing. He
knew how to get the fuck around this ship. Now
clearly I believe being like yes or no, by the
way you saying, you said, Jacqueize is the best vocalist
of the whole list. So hate this short ass motherfucker.
He's the worst nigga I ever met in life. If

(01:00:50):
y'all listen to one of my bonus episodes, I talk
about it with Assante. A couple of weeks ago when
I went to one music pest Bobby Valentino ended up
meeting him at Springbling and he was the rudest little
munchkin I've ever met in my life. But that nigga
could say that Mic was on. He was the best

(01:01:10):
out of the R S.

Speaker 4 (01:01:10):
V P got PTSD.

Speaker 1 (01:01:12):
What does that with with? What?

Speaker 4 (01:01:14):
Remember he got caught.

Speaker 1 (01:01:15):
He got caught sleeping with? Yeah, what he sleep with?

Speaker 4 (01:01:18):
He left the car?

Speaker 1 (01:01:21):
But no that that's a singing ass nigga. Chris Brown,
singing ass nigga. The Weekend got two songs out of
me before I'm bringing out the rais doesn't want to
slice my wrists.

Speaker 2 (01:01:30):
The Bressintilla won such a trick like question almost well
because he.

Speaker 4 (01:01:33):
Raps, but he can he can harmonize well.

Speaker 1 (01:01:38):
The worst singer on this list I actually do believe
is ray J. I mean, he always sounds like he crying,
you know what I mean, He's sounded like he crying
and ship to me, to me my thoughts on this.
I think we talk about it all here. I think
lists are kind of goofy, kind of stupid. I think

(01:02:01):
I think Mario we found out in versus and we've
been listening to him since we were all well since
not we were all teenagers.

Speaker 2 (01:02:09):
Operator y'all niggas was in.

Speaker 1 (01:02:12):
Y'all, y'all was walking down the aisle to Mario while
I was scribbling in fifth grade. You know, y'all, y'all,
couldn't say she was.

Speaker 4 (01:02:22):
Just a friend.

Speaker 2 (01:02:23):
Do you like when people do like mad qualifiers, when
they'll do like, well, he can sing, but he can
sing and he can could.

Speaker 1 (01:02:31):
To me, I think it's subjective. It's one of those.
And we talk about it when we talk about albums,
when we talk about films, and we see the people
you know, debating about the movie him we talked about
we talked about centers even like, there's not that when
it comes to talent and art. I think we had
a whole episode about it. There's not really a real barometer,
right because there's always gonna be somebody that is not

(01:02:53):
gonna like how they sing, you know what I mean?
So you know, and you said that this leads into
the let's let's get into DJ head. I like talking
to y'all person. We don't get this often with with
the with all of us in person. So yeah, give
it to me.

Speaker 3 (01:03:11):
Donna sound really egregious and you're probably gonna click me
up to make me look crazy. Yeah, but I feel
I don't care who you've been with, because I feel
like I'm better no matter who it is.

Speaker 7 (01:03:20):
But let me give you in a scenario though, So
you meet a girl at North You're like, oh, she
checked off.

Speaker 1 (01:03:28):
Every single box.

Speaker 7 (01:03:29):
I really like months go by, you're kicking it heavy.
You're thinking about making this your girlfriend. Loki probably already
your girlfriend. You take her to somebody listening party. I
don't want to throw no names.

Speaker 8 (01:03:40):
R J.

Speaker 7 (01:03:40):
You check the RJ listening party game there who else
is not married?

Speaker 4 (01:03:50):
YG?

Speaker 7 (01:03:51):
We No, they all in the building, right, They huddled
up in the corner and they're like, he just walked
in the girl that we all go with something, the
whole city, the being with.

Speaker 4 (01:04:07):
Fire, wouldn't it?

Speaker 1 (01:04:07):
But would you?

Speaker 4 (01:04:10):
I don't care.

Speaker 1 (01:04:11):
I don't believe you.

Speaker 2 (01:04:13):
Somebody somebody said the stuttering tolds the truth.

Speaker 9 (01:04:16):
I mean, did he really say that's a lot? That's yes,
I think.

Speaker 4 (01:04:28):
So.

Speaker 2 (01:04:28):
There was a clip of Berg Hitmaker on cam show
and he was talking about.

Speaker 1 (01:04:34):
Didn't we talk about that? We talked about that with glasses.
We talked about that.

Speaker 2 (01:04:38):
With glasses, so what we did? So he talks about
like how how much she basically poured into him, right,
like sexually but also like intellectually and emotionally right, And
you know, granted Burg's pbably like eighteen at the time,
and so at the end they're like, you know, could
you be with her? And he's like, now, everybody don't
seen her pussy, right, And I feel like that's kind
of like the eighteen year old version of him speaking.

(01:04:59):
But the way that he he's talking about her, it's
it's everything that you would think that somebody would want
to like. And he talked about like the sexual things
that she showed him. But he's like more than that.
He's like, she was so mature, she was so mature,
she was so with this, she was so smart whatever.
So my thing is like all the people that you say, like,

(01:05:20):
well they done had her or they said this or whatever.
The older you get, that circle get smaller, right, And
so like if you date with the intention of like partnership,
you should even if you just date with the openness
of like this could happen, you can't worry about that
ship because if this could be somebody, five years from now,
it'll be you and her and you might not even

(01:05:41):
be speaking to them, or you might not see them
that often.

Speaker 8 (01:05:43):
You know.

Speaker 2 (01:05:44):
Either way, I hear why and her example, she's giving
the most.

Speaker 1 (01:05:51):
Yes, but no, no, you'd be surprised, especially when you
get to see your thirties, like who you've dealt with
in different.

Speaker 2 (01:05:58):
Points, but your number are also going to be up
there in your thirties here well, according to statistics, they
said that the average woman only sleeps with twelve men
in their entire lifetime. And I don't know, but let's
say you start sucking at fourteen, right, and you fuck
two people a year and you're single by thirty six,

(01:06:18):
that's gonna be numbers right like, and that's like fortygas right,
and men would be like, you know, I want to
chick like six, and it's like, what the fuck do
you think?

Speaker 1 (01:06:26):
Why move to another city?

Speaker 4 (01:06:28):
You don't?

Speaker 1 (01:06:29):
However, I do want to share a story which is
gonna be anyone listening that listens to decisions. Decisions y'all
are gonna be like, ooh, the growth. So I had
enough goddamn conversations with these nigglets. They clearly care about
your past, right, So I'm trying to get in Atlanta
boyfriend like I have a boyfriend in Baltimore and another

(01:06:49):
little boo like you know, so I got I mean,
maybe maybe someone to build my ship. When I ordered
from Amazon into hold up these orgasms inside of me
and let me climbas, you know what I mean. So anyone,
let me tell you about this, about this one, little
this one, little niggas. So there's a guy that I met,

(01:07:10):
like maybe my first or second week moving to Atlanta.
Saw him behind a bar, went to like a live
podcast show. He was the bartender there and very attractive,
very attractive. So I go to the bar. There's two
of my fans sitting at the bar and they immediately
go to try to connect us, and it's like, ooh,

(01:07:31):
you should talk to him gray cute any and then
they're like, ooh, she lit. You don't even know she is,
da da da. We exchanged instagrams, which I was in
his instagrams in twenty eighteen, so clearly yeah, he by tight,
you know what I mean. So we get to talk
in the first time we go to link up, it

(01:07:52):
doesn't go well. A bitch pulls up and I'm like, oh, yeah, nah,
you're not done with whatever situation pull up to pull
up to us on a date, put up to his
job and I was like, oh yeah nah. So was like, nah,
I'm this ain't working. We're not gonna do this. So
he doubled back. Now he said, hey, I'd like to
take you out. I like to get like, let's start over,

(01:08:14):
let's start fresh. And now the time has gone too long.
I didn't seen his inner circles, I don't seen his shit,
and I don't like how he moves. So I literally
just told him, I said, listen, you could keep me
from my soulmate. I said, if I fuck you, I said,
and you just end up being a body, I'll be

(01:08:35):
seeing you got good look at friends and your industry
adjacent Oh. I did tell him that because he being
around some good look at niggas. So I'm like, bro,
what if I meet one of these people that are
adjacent to you? Now we fuck, and you keep me
from being with somebody because now they're mad that I
fucked you. And I already know right now by the
way you move, you not gonna be nothing but maybe
a body. And I said, you're not worth a body,

(01:08:57):
You're not worth me investing this because I don't feel
like we're there and you move a little messy, and
he's like five tens, So I was really already giving him.
I was already making an exception, you know, And I
was just like, I literally had to think about it.
I was like, yo, like, I know you're doubling back
now ten months later because now your situation is clear.

(01:09:19):
But I was like, yeah, I don't seen enough to
be like I don't think we work.

Speaker 2 (01:09:23):
Is your growth You're recognizing it and you're like you
could be blocking me for my soul. That's yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:09:29):
The growth is that I'm no. No, the growth is
realizing there are more men than not that do care
about who you've been with, your bodies, who, how you
enter into a room. Had may not be that like
I got, like one of my boyfriends right now, is.

Speaker 4 (01:09:50):
Lifestyle one of your boyfriends?

Speaker 1 (01:09:52):
Yeah, oh no, we're official. Oh, very much like you know,
serve the country, you know what I mean? Yeah, I
gotta I got a military vet and you have.

Speaker 4 (01:10:03):
To go on base and get groceries discount.

Speaker 1 (01:10:05):
No, no, no, I said, he's a vet. I would never
date anyone currently in the mid Oh. There they still.

Speaker 2 (01:10:14):
Benefits and he's got a lot of benefits, so I'm
here for it.

Speaker 1 (01:10:17):
He got all the benefits. Okay, But literally, he's someone
that is open with lifestyle. He's a lifestyle person. He's
he's cool with you know, he don't think like he
don't think like the regular man, the regular man, though
he does care. And so to me as I'm getting older.

Speaker 2 (01:10:38):
I'm like, I don't like this.

Speaker 1 (01:10:39):
I don't mind you don't like it.

Speaker 2 (01:10:42):
Because it reminds me of like almost like the same
theory of like we have to be two times better, right,
Like you have to be two times better than the
man to not only think for yourself, but then think
how they'll think.

Speaker 1 (01:10:54):
No, absolutely absolutely because as a woman.

Speaker 2 (01:10:56):
But I don't like that. I mean, I'm not saying
like I'm gonna say I don't like your growth of it.

Speaker 1 (01:11:01):
I don't like government. I don't like it.

Speaker 2 (01:11:03):
I don't like you don't want to.

Speaker 1 (01:11:05):
I mean it sucks. By the way, you would think
these are fucking podcast pros, but they're not niggas. Moving
away from the mic, I'm like, I'm gonna take microphone
Jesus twice. Okay, No, but it's crazy because and I'm
in a place that's happy. I do want a man

(01:11:26):
that doesn't care about that stuff. But I also am
very aware that a lot of men may take longer
to get there, if they ever do get there. And
so in my thirties, if I meet a man, if
I meet a man, at this age, I would hope
that I could, you know, get him to think broader,
because for me, I want to slut. I want a

(01:11:47):
nigga that been around. I want a nigga that have practice,
that know what he's doing, that just can put the
finger in me, make me squirk like. I want an advanced,
whole ass nigga. And the dick gotta be good because
if you don't fuck as many bitch as, it can't
be bad like because then bitches, no.

Speaker 2 (01:12:05):
I don't like the nigga like being married, but I
also could be like that. You can ask about me like,
oh ship.

Speaker 1 (01:12:14):
Hey, the pread group, No, but I don't know that.

Speaker 2 (01:12:19):
I hear yeah, I hear you, and it is growth,
but it does you know, it sucks.

Speaker 1 (01:12:24):
But again, then I had this conversation with enough people
over the years from the other podcasts to just even
just casually in group settings and as women. Yet you
do have to consider it if you if you hope
that you could just find a man like I do have,
they're far and few in between. I'll tell you that,
like it takes a little longer like him find a

(01:12:46):
ship good as dick about five nine. So I did
have to like he makes money, he's over six figures,
he doesn't want kids, he's he's like essentially perfect. He's
I just.

Speaker 2 (01:12:59):
I would have liked four more sure, But you know
that reminds me of like again, like I don't know
app dating. That's like I got I got married before.
But I'm saying it's like with ap dating, it's like
you can find a beautiful woman that you might not
funck with in real like like you might not even
get a chance, and you'll be like, m I don't
like to wear hair is in this picture and you
swipe in the side, and it's like the the idea

(01:13:21):
of like one thing stopping you, Like you know that
ship becomes malleable, it wants other parts because honest, it's
the relationship that I say to single people, who you
marry is not going to be that person in four
years from now. Everybody's gonna change. She's gonna change. So
it's like certain things where you're like, ah, but I
don't like this one part that might not even be
them right, No, it won't be.

Speaker 4 (01:13:40):
But you got to know that early on. You know,
That's why marriage counseling is.

Speaker 3 (01:13:43):
I remember my nephew had got married and their marriage
counselor leading into the marriage. I'm still I'm still going
to be on board after at least for the first
two years in the marriage, because the work doesn't start
before you gets married. It starts day day two after
you get there. You know, it's especially young they're young,
you know, I think the.

Speaker 2 (01:14:02):
Most the biggest detriment I think for men is like
when when when an engagement happens, women have the ring
on right away and they're communicating their commitment to the
world immediately, whereas like men don't have a ring, and
so they still look like a dirt back the whole time, right,
and it's just an uneven like you're not even in
the real like joint thing at the beginning.

Speaker 4 (01:14:21):
Right.

Speaker 2 (01:14:21):
So that's why, like when you get married, it really
starts there because then you're both communicating it and it
shit is hard, like but I don't know, man, I
do wish sometimes like people could get the other side
of it often and that's why sometimes I try to
frown like out in pieces, like it's hard, but it's rewarding,
and it's like you know, you're you're like I'm in
my forties, like.

Speaker 4 (01:14:40):
Gym, it's kind of the same.

Speaker 2 (01:14:42):
But it's like the same process, right, like the gym,
Like it's it's hard, but results come from it being hard,
and like, you know, marriage is the same thing.

Speaker 1 (01:14:51):
It got me crazy.

Speaker 3 (01:14:55):
There's a thing that says married men are more attractive
to like man with a ring.

Speaker 4 (01:15:00):
I was in hospital.

Speaker 1 (01:15:03):
My mom was for insecure women like because I was that,
you know.

Speaker 3 (01:15:07):
Little sister said he. She said to her brother, said,
why you ain't wearing your ring? He's like, yo, because
when I were, the ring is more of a problem.

Speaker 4 (01:15:13):
I know it sounds crazy, but.

Speaker 1 (01:15:16):
That's all of this because I was just out trying.

Speaker 2 (01:15:19):
To get I think they think, like what maybe give me.

Speaker 1 (01:15:23):
I wouldn't know. I went to a party, was talking
to just do it at the bar, A little salt
and pepper John, and I was like, you know what
I mean. We were and we were talking, we were vibing.
He lived Dallas. We were talking about Lincoln when I
go to Dallas for Thanksgiving, and the conversation was too smooth,
too good. I went like this. I went like, bitch,

(01:15:43):
saw that ring, I said, And he said, bro that well,
first time I'm going the day before staying the day after,
like there's this time.

Speaker 6 (01:15:54):
Was he was he?

Speaker 2 (01:15:55):
Was he just like a good conversation or was he no?

Speaker 1 (01:15:58):
No?

Speaker 2 (01:15:59):
Was he trying to like activate something?

Speaker 1 (01:16:01):
If he was trying to Lincoln, Doallas what you think
I'm gonna go to a book club?

Speaker 3 (01:16:06):
I missed that you have had that conversation, him just
saying from a zoom out, I.

Speaker 2 (01:16:13):
Have good conversations with I like sometimes change numbers.

Speaker 1 (01:16:16):
I don't think that you're going to meet up on
the holiday. That that part is.

Speaker 4 (01:16:20):
Wrong, but it's hard to turn away, like.

Speaker 2 (01:16:22):
Having having an element where it's like it's not in
exchange for anything because I'm in something like sometimes that's enjoyable.
It's like you're a bailiful woman, this is nice or whatever,
but it's like I'm not.

Speaker 3 (01:16:31):
But then there's a great area like damn, I know
that this is could.

Speaker 2 (01:16:38):
But to the point that we're saying, like if it's
an insecure woman or not, if it's a woman who
likes us or not.

Speaker 1 (01:16:44):
The like right now, I don't want no married man.

Speaker 2 (01:16:47):
A married man has also make sure he's not putting
himself in a situation where it's like this is gonna
be hard for me.

Speaker 1 (01:16:53):
It's gonna be hard for you, because women, if you're
dealing with a married man, get that check, get that money.
His wife is you should be two. You should be too.
Before we get out of here, let's get into an
ignorant and am I ignorant?

Speaker 2 (01:17:07):
I got a couple?

Speaker 4 (01:17:08):
Which one you want to? Well?

Speaker 1 (01:17:09):
Sea, bring up the gamers. Let's go ahead and keep
talking about these niggas. And I don't went on viral
on the internet talking about gamers for the last couple
of years. Anyways, this is a shout out to my
boy Cleoto because Cleo. I don't know if we want
to cut this into the clip, because Cleo be coming
for me and I look I like me some Cleo,
go ahead and read it for us.

Speaker 2 (01:17:25):
So this is for am I ignorant? And we got
this submission here and it says here adult gamers are
better romantic partners and this is why they say it here.
A lot of people in parentheses they put this, usually
one gender over the other, typically complain if their partners
into gaming and view their hobby as a waste of time.

Speaker 1 (01:17:43):
Okay, yes, that's women complain about men.

Speaker 2 (01:17:46):
What gamers are likely to be home with their partner,
not spending a shitload of money doing other hobbies outside
the house. The return on investment in gaming is way
better than other forms of entertainment. Plus, gamers are typically
more likely to faithful to their partner because they're not
out and about exposing themselves to temptations that could lead

(01:18:06):
them to do something compromising to their relationship. So there,
this is their whole theory for why adult gamers.

Speaker 3 (01:18:13):
This is an ass as they because there's women gamers
right on the other side of this.

Speaker 1 (01:18:21):
Yeah, I mean not only that. So first off, gaming
now is technically online dating. You could literally meet somebody
on your goddamn headset. You have a whole relationship with
someone in your headset. So that's the first thing. The
second thing, the gamers are likely to be home spending

(01:18:42):
time with their partner. That is a lie. They're on
the game and want minimal.

Speaker 2 (01:18:46):
Interruptions traveling through the metaversity.

Speaker 1 (01:18:48):
They are traveling physically, physically, they're under the same roof. No,
that's not spending time with someone. I also want to say,
not spending a shipload of money is also a lie
because the way that the roadblocks ship is affecting the kids.

Speaker 3 (01:19:04):
I know that there's Arris the game ship is like
one hundred and fifteen dollars bro Bro download hold.

Speaker 1 (01:19:10):
On the systems are a lot. Then I think on
the weapons and ship. You gotta upgrade weapons.

Speaker 3 (01:19:15):
That ship called the NBA two K bare minimum. You
have to get what I mean, I didn't even know
there was VC bucks.

Speaker 1 (01:19:22):
The god damn.

Speaker 4 (01:19:23):
You gotta get a part time job to fund that ship.

Speaker 1 (01:19:26):
So does it go from like does it go from
your player playing in converses to nikes? Like? What are
you spending your money on? Is it the facility improvement?

Speaker 3 (01:19:35):
This features in game experiences, roster updated rosters. All of
that ship you gotta pay for it. And the tariffs
add the tariffs on top. They got terriffs in the
well well because of the game they put the game,
the tariffs on the electronics and all that ship trying.

Speaker 1 (01:19:52):
Oh I thought, I thought, I thought the terror gave
don't no idea. I know the white man created put
territ that's crazy. Yeah, I disagree with this. I don't
believe the adult gamers are better romantic partners. I think
that they're less social with their partner and although they're
may be physically around, I think that they can emotionally

(01:20:14):
cheat more because headsets and meeting all the people. I
do think that they're still spending money on these things.
And and yeah the r O Y and gaming doesn't
seem much better to me. I'm sorry, and I never
thought so.

Speaker 4 (01:20:31):
You got to be an elite gamer to get through.

Speaker 1 (01:20:33):
Like unless you are making money on gaming. I speaking
for myself, do not want a nigga who play video games?
Bro Like I don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:20:44):
The hand eye coordination can bring that to the bedroom?

Speaker 1 (01:20:47):
What I participate?

Speaker 2 (01:20:49):
Strong hands participating? What gamer's girlfriend thet They got good
hand coordination, hand strength.

Speaker 1 (01:20:58):
So do military vets and basketball players and firefighters.

Speaker 2 (01:21:03):
And everyone that they do.

Speaker 1 (01:21:07):
Listen, they long, they do a lot of other things.
Now we could, we could, we can end this episode here.
This was a good episode. See damn, I ain't invested
on flying you every week to Atlanta, but like across
the briefly and I was like, I ain't making enough
money yet. Let me wait till I get start making
more money. That's where I can apply you in an

(01:21:28):
I mean, unless you don't mind on the on the frontier,
I heard they got the little sixteen dollar flight sixteen
what the go wild pass? Ain't available no.

Speaker 2 (01:21:36):
More for the last minute joint, you know, for the.

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