In this 2025 Year-End Wrap-Up episode of Selective Ignorance, Mandii B is joined by a special roundtable featuring Deante Kyle, Jason “Jah” Lee, and JoJo Alonzo for a wide-ranging reflection on the defining political, cultural, and personal moments of 2025. The conversation opens with a sweeping review of the year’s political climate and cultural shifts [00:52], setting the tone for a thoughtful breakdown of how public policy, media narratives, and social movements shaped everyday life.
From there, the panel transitions into personal reflections on navigating 2025 as individuals [03:37], leading into an honest discussion around neurodivergence and identity [04:06], including how language, labels, and self-definition evolved throughout the year [05:22]. The group examines stereotypes and community dynamics [08:03], before unpacking the lasting societal impact of the pandemic [10:15] and how it reshaped ideas around corporate responsibility, humanity, and social justice [11:59].
As the conversation deepens, the hosts challenge modern ideas of victimhood and accountability [13:12], segueing into a critical analysis of celebrity involvement in politics [16:33] and the outsized influence public figures wield within Black communities [18:19]. They discuss the rise of controversial personalities [20:56], emphasizing the urgent need for stronger, more intentional Black voices in media [23:08] and increased investment in Black-owned platforms and storytelling [25:56].
The episode also interrogates celebrity idolization through the lens of figures like Diddy [27:48], expanding into broader conversations around cultural representation in entertainment [30:09], performative allyship [32:00], and the dangers of celebrity worship [34:19]. The panel revisits the complexity of victimhood narratives [36:34], questioning how money, power, and morality intersect in public discourse [39:12].
In the final stretch, the discussion turns toward the future—examining the rapid evolution of AI and technology [41:15], the environmental concerns tied to innovation [46:41], and what these developments mean for humanity moving forward. The episode concludes with reflective final thoughts on lessons learned in 2025 and the importance of individual action, community care, and accountability as society looks ahead [50:22].
This year-end conversation offers a layered, unfiltered look at politics, culture, technology, and identity—cementing Selective Ignorance as a space for critical thought, honest dialogue, and forward-thinking reflection.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hey guys, welcome to another episode of Selective Ignorance. However,
(00:03):
before we get to this week's episode, I want to
remind you guys to purchase my book No Holds Barred,
a dual manifesto of sexual exploration and power. So feel
free to go to your local bookstores preferably queer owned,
black owned, or woman owned to support them, but also
just click the button on Amazon, Barnes and Nobles, or
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wherever you read your books.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
Again.
Speaker 1 (00:26):
That is No Holds Barred, a dual manifesto of sexual
exploration and power, written by yours truly and my co
host of the Decisions Decisions podcast, Weezy.
Speaker 2 (00:35):
Make sure y'all get that. Now let's get to this
week's episode.
Speaker 1 (00:38):
This is Mandy be Welcome to Selective Ignorance, a production
of the Black Effect Podcast Network and Iart Radio. Welcome back,
y'all to another episode of Selective Ignorance. A very special
episode because maybe we are talking about the twenty twenty
five year in wrap up, the year that the Hot
Cheeto entered office, the year the AI took over, and
(01:00):
of course, the number one hip hop artists in the
world this year was Diddy.
Speaker 2 (01:04):
Can you believe it. That's right.
Speaker 1 (01:06):
Everybody was talking about Diddy this year for all of
the wrong things.
Speaker 3 (01:10):
Why won't you party with me for your birthday?
Speaker 4 (01:12):
Man?
Speaker 1 (01:12):
We're getting into the documentary. We're getting into the child
Take Me Shopped. We're getting into the first hundred days
of our new president, even though a lot of us
don't want to consider him our president.
Speaker 2 (01:23):
He is Project twenty twenty five. Was it a spoop?
Not really.
Speaker 1 (01:27):
We may actually be going through those pages and we're
gonna talk about that along with Kendrick at the super Bowl,
amongst other things.
Speaker 2 (01:38):
Welcome, y'all.
Speaker 1 (01:39):
I am not joined by my super producers today. Instead,
I am joined by some very special friends and some opinionated.
Speaker 2 (01:48):
I guess personalities.
Speaker 1 (01:49):
We have my guy, Jason Lee aka Jah aka not.
Speaker 5 (01:55):
Hollywood Unlock Jason Lee, you have nouse period.
Speaker 1 (01:58):
We are also joined by someone you may very well know,
the other gentleman. I'm saving the best for last, which
is the woman, which is different. But we do things
differently over here. I have Viante Kyle from the gritzineg
podcast and listen. He is in Everyone's algorithm, on Everyone's timeline.
Say literally literally, I don't know what type of things
(02:23):
he got over with Zuckerberg and Facebook, but he is
that algorithm is.
Speaker 2 (02:27):
Picking him up.
Speaker 1 (02:28):
Okay, and then we have my girl Jojo Altzo. Y'all
may hear her on the b A t L or
Broken play show over on Black Effects. So we hear y'all,
we are getting tequila today. So by the second hour
or by the second episode of this show, y'all are
(02:49):
gonna get y'all are gonna get true for Mandy and
maybe true form job Jojo Andante. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
Well I'm really excited.
Speaker 2 (02:59):
We're gonna talk twenty twenty five. Yeah, yeah, you know,
I guess real quick. How did everyone enjoy their twenty
twenty five?
Speaker 1 (03:06):
Was this a year to enjoy the best year of
my life? Okay, okay of my life. I'm not mad
at that. I'm not mad at that.
Speaker 6 (03:15):
That's good.
Speaker 3 (03:15):
My ship turned. Yeah, that's a beautiful thing. Man.
Speaker 5 (03:19):
Congratulations to you for real, like you deserve that. We
see you working hard out here.
Speaker 2 (03:23):
Absolutely.
Speaker 5 (03:24):
I woke up with a spirit of gratitude this morning.
I just feel like I'm happy to be here with y'all, yeah,
doing this. I'm happy that we are healthy and we
still here doing what we love to.
Speaker 2 (03:32):
Do like me too. I'm trying to switch it because
I woke up in a good mood this morning. Yeah,
uh huh.
Speaker 6 (03:39):
But it's going better. It's going better.
Speaker 3 (03:40):
It's not a bad dance with a bad moment.
Speaker 1 (03:44):
It's funny because the audience, like they all know, even
like when I'm on tour, like and we do meet
and greets, they be like, bitch, be on time when
we was doing our book stops.
Speaker 2 (03:53):
Oh no, no, no, they know.
Speaker 1 (03:55):
Like the probably worst thing with me is timing. Mind you,
I just talked about on my on my bonus episode.
I also am in this phase of realizing I might
be neurodivergent. So there's a lot of like, O, no, wait,
we can't neurodivergent, which is you know how like to me,
(04:15):
I think in the last five years, we don't introduced.
Speaker 7 (04:18):
A whole lot of new works basically calling ourselves autistic
just basically okay.
Speaker 2 (04:23):
No, no, no, no, I don't think I'm that far
on the spectrum of auto. I'm somewhere on it.
Speaker 3 (04:28):
I feel like, see, I think all of us autistic.
Speaker 2 (04:31):
It's special love is it?
Speaker 1 (04:34):
My son?
Speaker 2 (04:34):
Is nerd divergent is autism?
Speaker 7 (04:37):
That's that's the that's the implied you know what I'm saying. Yeah,
that's because it's a spectrum. They say ned divergent, so
it's okay, divergent, neurotypical, So they don't make people feel
like because people kind of does a stigma behind autism.
Speaker 8 (04:51):
I want, I know, I want us to normalize that
me and we're seeing it a lot more lately.
Speaker 2 (04:57):
No, a whole lot, Like I mean, our president is
is you know, like we.
Speaker 7 (05:02):
Divergin that nigga is old and white, old and white
and racist and racist, racist, dementia, narcissist.
Speaker 1 (05:12):
But I know that in word, we gotta they want
us to stop using so we can't. We can't narcissists.
Speaker 3 (05:17):
But when it's a very apparent narcissist, you know, it
is what it is.
Speaker 5 (05:21):
That's but that's the thing about words, right in twenty
twenty five, I feel like that was the thing, like
people taking words and like bastardizing them to the point
where people think that they don't mean nothing like that.
Speaker 2 (05:30):
Even that are we allowed to say bastard anymore?
Speaker 8 (05:34):
No more, like like by calling somebody an actual bastard,
like you mean it, like you don't take care of
your kids.
Speaker 3 (05:39):
Yeah, yeah, like text, what definition of bastard just.
Speaker 7 (05:43):
Means that you was born out of west in the world?
Speaker 4 (05:48):
Right.
Speaker 2 (05:50):
I was about to say, right here, my mom and
dad never married, and yet here we.
Speaker 3 (05:56):
Are, my folks. You know what I'm saying, holding me
down el bast or over here?
Speaker 2 (06:03):
I got me like, oh you kid over here, Oh
that's what you grew up in a two parent household.
Speaker 7 (06:08):
I love that for you too, But yeah, it just
wasn't there. And I'm gonna say this, you know what
I'm saying. Around like nine, ten years old, she started
getting different in the bitch. Okay, when your parents start
hating each other, that shit sucks. Oh damn like damn
you and beef you in the war zone, nigga all
the time. It's like it's only peace when it's only
one parent.
Speaker 4 (06:28):
Huh.
Speaker 3 (06:28):
When they bove there, it's like tension in that bitch. Nah.
Speaker 8 (06:30):
I grew up in a two parent house, so it
was straight you feel me, See, like when we grew up,
we found out like whatever else was going on, but
at the time we know shit, you feel me? Well,
maybe because I was just younger, I won't paying attention
my sisters, my older sisters.
Speaker 3 (06:43):
Probably was like, nah, I ain't gonna hold you. When
they told us they was getting a divorce.
Speaker 6 (06:47):
I was like, thank god, I think you didn't go
to the opposite way right now, we've had enough.
Speaker 2 (06:52):
It becomes a lot, It becomes a lot.
Speaker 5 (06:53):
I feel like a Huxtable kid over here, like like
I don't have no Like my parents, they thought I
was the Oreo when I was in elementary school because
I had my mom. My mom was a lawyer, my
dad was a PhD. Like they thought that they was
in the suburbs, and yeah, I'm old and here they yeah,
they don't even have that.
Speaker 2 (07:11):
And I'm on.
Speaker 1 (07:12):
The spectrum where y'all wouldn't believe my white mom was
on foodsteps. So that's when we got, well we'll get
in Florida.
Speaker 3 (07:20):
You aren't gonna have an asterisks and everything like they
have a Florida white. No, that's a crazy Florida That's
what I'm saying, is a Florida white, crazy white.
Speaker 2 (07:33):
See what I mean.
Speaker 6 (07:34):
Okay, that's what I think of when I think Florida white.
Speaker 2 (07:38):
See what I mean? This is crazy.
Speaker 3 (07:40):
Let's talk about did you have a driveway?
Speaker 2 (07:43):
Yes, I did have a driveway. Had drive.
Speaker 3 (07:47):
Were good.
Speaker 1 (07:49):
That is it's crazy because I've leaned so much into
the last couple of weeks on stereotypes. But to me,
this year, because of the administration that's in the office,
boy of stereotypes been like highlighted, like stereotypes between us
as black people. We saw that happen with stap benefits.
We've seen also the Espanols and all.
Speaker 2 (08:12):
Of them have been I'm just I'm just saying, apparently,
you know what's crazy.
Speaker 1 (08:21):
And I want to say that because we'll get into
the first hundred days of the Trump administration, and when
I bring the Espanols up, there was two things that
to me such out crazy. I'm saying this year it
was one of two things that I saw. And maybe
again because Florida, right, you had the Hispanics that leaned
heavily into championing their vote for Trump, and then you
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had the others that were like dealing with ice. And
so what we saw is even our community be like, well,
y'all voted for a nigga, so we don't really have
the the empathy that maybe we should. But we also
saw the separation between all brown like brown ain't poc,
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ain't brown black, Like there's a separation.
Speaker 3 (09:09):
I don't deal with that, poc.
Speaker 2 (09:11):
Sh I'm not a fan of it either. I'm not
a fan.
Speaker 3 (09:13):
Don't try to lump all people of coloring together when
like everybody has individual struggle. Individual it's that too.
Speaker 7 (09:20):
But then even just being a black American, like all
these cultures have some sembilance of anti blackness, Like it's prevalent,
you know what I'm saying, Like a Florida Cuban they
don't know other that's like white, that's like, that's maggot
two point Oh that's curious.
Speaker 6 (09:34):
Dominicans.
Speaker 2 (09:35):
Oh no, the Dominicans.
Speaker 6 (09:41):
Black as hell, but they ain't black.
Speaker 7 (09:43):
Yeah, they're just that Sammy Sausa, you know what I'm saying,
Like the nigga Sammy Saucer went verse.
Speaker 3 (09:50):
He turned inside out.
Speaker 2 (09:53):
Was awesome. Sh I think.
Speaker 1 (09:54):
I think for me, that's what this year shined light
on more than anything was it started separating so many
of us, like not even by color, but also by sexuality.
With they said, oh, pandemic over, No more pride flags
going up. They said, oh, pandemic over. We don't care
about about black lives anymore. Oh, it's pandemic over. Women's rights.
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Let's go ahead and take all of those away. I
just feel like during the height of the pandemic there
was some sense of humanity. It was maybe because so
many people lost their lives and things like.
Speaker 6 (10:27):
That thing we're helpful. People were like trying to help
other people.
Speaker 1 (10:32):
Well, not only that, hold on, let's also get into
the workers, the essential workers. That now because majority of
black women having those positions, we're now gonna take away
that from being professional degrees, which means you're not gonna
be able to get the money to even do these
jobs anymore.
Speaker 2 (10:46):
Like this year, to me has been the year.
Speaker 1 (10:49):
Where I was like, world peace, US unite in anything bucket,
We'll never see it in our lifetime.
Speaker 5 (10:56):
I don't know's I like with the pandemic it was
it's two sides of that. I think people in communities
were trying to help each other. But all of that DEI,
all of the flags, all of that stuff, like that's
all corporate humanity. Like people were trying to make a
couple of dollars, Like the whole world has stopped and
nobody was out spending money like that, nobody unless you
was here in Atlanta buying hookah but like.
Speaker 3 (11:18):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 5 (11:19):
But for the most part, like the world that stopped
people wasn't making money. But these companies know that if
you're not making no money, who was the one customer base,
who was the one demographics you could run to to
a piece to get some money, to spend some money
some niggas.
Speaker 3 (11:32):
You can.
Speaker 5 (11:33):
You can try to throw niggas a bone, You can
try to put BLM out there. You can try to
act like you care about these things we care about.
Get a couple of dollars, and now the time is over,
and now we're back to our record.
Speaker 7 (11:44):
I think my perspective on that is that where everybody
having to sit down and people being at home, that
everybody just figured out they was all a part of
the same class all at once. So then you conflate
in a lot of different issues at once. But we
all sitting down and we steal. So you see something
like with George Floyd happened. It's magnified by the fact
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that motherfuckers ain't in the rat race all day, right,
and then they start sitting and watch it. The impact
get it a little harder, and then TikTok growing in
popularity gets to a point where people are everyday people
and they relateing to one another over this app that's
not based on celebrity status or monetary value. So I
think the big thing is like, yeah, you know, maybe
from corporations it was beneficial to act like you act
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like you put on. But I think also it's a
pendulum thing too. The only way to swing that pendulum
back from us realizing we are part in the same
class is to separate us at every turn, every other term, race,
the sexual orientation, all of these different things, especially like
we get back to misogyny, we getting back heavy on that,
and that's patriarchy because the voice, the loudest voices were
(12:55):
the most downtrotten people in society during the pandemic.
Speaker 3 (12:58):
Right the swing back into the.
Speaker 7 (13:00):
Direction of like white supremacists and straight white men is
that was the mo It's like, oh, we're losing our
country and woola wood wool and we don't matter all.
The hardest thing to be as a white man right now,
it's like, nigga, shut up.
Speaker 3 (13:12):
That's crazy.
Speaker 5 (13:13):
They ever tried to play Like the fact that they
try to try to play the victim is I just
try to play the victim as a as a white
person in general, but definitely a white man.
Speaker 3 (13:22):
Got a show called mad Men where like your.
Speaker 8 (13:24):
Whole shit is literally white, all of like the history
black history. Because we've seen that he took away like
you can't get into the park for free on Martin
Luther King Day.
Speaker 2 (13:34):
Yeah, he just did.
Speaker 6 (13:34):
He just did that birthday.
Speaker 2 (13:37):
But it's not only him.
Speaker 1 (13:38):
We have to talk about too, just how many Republicans
are like one votes in the last primaries midterms where
even in Florida they took away critical race theory. You
can't say gay in Florida. And there's certain other states,
other red states that are following those. I think Texas
may have also done it as well. And these are
huge states when it comes to presidential elections, and so
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when you have pretty much I think also he went
into the Smithsonian and decided to take take things that
he was like, Nope, I don't think this happened.
Speaker 3 (14:07):
Try to remove Jackie Robinson.
Speaker 7 (14:10):
I think the bigger thing too, is just the comfort
the largest voter base, which is white people. White the
majority are the country. But I think also he's a businessman.
His biggest consumer base in the country is white people.
And they gonna spend their bread if they feel like
everything is going in their favor, like white people are
(14:31):
gonna like you could just tell them, like everything good,
you back on top.
Speaker 3 (14:35):
But y'all this new Starbucks cup.
Speaker 7 (14:37):
Look at this ship, and niggas is lining up like
it's a lot of obedience that come with feeling superior
and the consumer like they just feverish consumers and shit,
when niggas feel like the country is against us, that's
when we start getting into boycotts. That's why we start
getting and they gotta make sure that their biggest consumer
base isn't in alignment with these boycotts.
Speaker 2 (14:56):
So I will say, we saw that happen with Targets.
Speaker 6 (14:59):
Targ black people was like, okay, well fuck being at Target.
Speaker 8 (15:02):
And it was a couple of people still in there,
you know what I'm saying, Like when that happened, sales drop.
Speaker 2 (15:08):
Yeah, oh yeah, they've lost billions.
Speaker 3 (15:09):
You see what I'm saying.
Speaker 5 (15:10):
Every every quarter, every quarter, it got ugly for Target
to the point where their CEO had to be replaced,
and like it was, it was a mess over it
and it's still a mess over there.
Speaker 7 (15:19):
It's gonna be a mess because the thing is is
like you don't realize what that is. It's like everything else,
it's white flight when black people start getting money and
we stopped going to Walmar and we're now in target
that make white people pivot and go to other places
and ship like that too.
Speaker 3 (15:33):
But also it's like mother, niggas gonna spind that bread
if they.
Speaker 8 (15:36):
Got, Well, why are white people so scared of black people?
Like God damn, I mean you got I don't want
to or I gotta go somewhere.
Speaker 7 (15:45):
But it's also an understanding that like the only way
that they can see the world is the way they
see the world, right, So it don't make sense to
them that we went and retaliated, right.
Speaker 3 (15:54):
But niggas really just at the end of that one
to be left alone straight up.
Speaker 2 (15:57):
That's it.
Speaker 3 (15:57):
Much like if you leave me in a funck alone.
Speaker 7 (16:00):
It was like, leave me out your thoughts, leave me
out your conversations, leave me out your legislation. Nigga'n have
to be centered, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (16:10):
I don't know what that's like.
Speaker 2 (16:11):
Here's the thing that I'd like to know, y'all thoughts.
Speaker 1 (16:13):
Because at the top of the year, however, we also
saw a lot of our our people of our.
Speaker 2 (16:19):
Culture kind of aligned during the inauguration. You had Snoop Dogg.
Speaker 1 (16:22):
There you hat Nelly, We have Wayne as heavily supported
Trump for getting him off. We see Nicki Minaj was
just as well at the United Nations speaking in support
of Trump. What does it look like, however, though, for
our big named people to align now, especially because politics
has essentially become a part of pop culture. I've never
(16:42):
in my life, and I don't know if it's just
because I'm finally getting older, I've never seen politics be
so taken in and discussed amongst everybody, like even the
younger generation, our generation, the ones like it's now literally
a talking point. That also makes things a little bit testy.
But what are our thoughts about the black our community
that are heavily supporting also Trump because he got three
(17:04):
more years.
Speaker 8 (17:06):
My thing is is supporting who the fuck you want
to support? Okay, that's what you're gonna do, Then that's
what you're doing. Like that's not affecting me just because
I see you supporting them, like it's already happened.
Speaker 6 (17:16):
He's already there, Like.
Speaker 8 (17:18):
Okay, being upset that you supporting him, Like, what is
me gonna be upset at what you got going on?
Speaker 6 (17:23):
Gonna do anything for me? Like he's already there.
Speaker 8 (17:26):
So I mean I don't, like I ain't saying like
I go for the ship, but it's just like I'm
not gonna let somebody else influence me and my thoughts
or like you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 6 (17:38):
It doesn't affect me. Like that's you, that's your life.
You deal with that.
Speaker 1 (17:40):
Interesting dealing with that, Okay, I mean we're all dealing
with I do feel like we're all affected, though it's just.
Speaker 6 (17:47):
Talking about them supporting it.
Speaker 7 (17:48):
It's just kind of like, yeah, I think there's a
has to be a thing, like we're probably the only
community that feel like we have leadership and celebrity. Like
these niggas ain't our Leader's not. Yeah, that's these niggas
are Like these niggas are tap dancers. For all intents
and purposes, they did are entertaining. If you gotta take
the bag from a man that you know is viem
(18:08):
ly against your people, then you go against your people
for the money. But it's about money for these niggas. Yeah,
And like you said, he already in office. They probably
don't feel like they're doing that and wrong because at
the end of the day, they can deal with our
backglass online as long as they pockets Lone and he'll
they'll let him trot them out because that gives the
illusion that black people support Trump when they know the
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big consensus is that black people not fucking with it,
and the polls say the same thing. But you trot
some niggas out and then it looked like compliance across
the board.
Speaker 3 (18:38):
Now that's what they try to deem our leaders.
Speaker 1 (18:42):
But it's weird because okay, cool, Maybe celebrities shouldn't be
made our leaders, but I want to get into what
white people are making celebrities and now martyrs.
Speaker 2 (18:51):
And we saw Charlie Kirk, who was a thirty two
year old white man that was talking on the internet.
Speaker 1 (18:57):
Essentially, he was a podcast essential essentially, he was a
personality with opinions and he's now become a martyr. He's
now people speaking out against him have lost their jobs
this year. I think that was one of the wildest
moments of this year to visibly witness because there was
there was all I mean literally visibly. We had to
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see it on on film, but also just the aftermath
of it and what happened.
Speaker 5 (19:25):
Well, they tried to convince us that he wasn't who
he was, Like all the quotes that came out of
all the shit that he said that was offensive to
black people, gave people whoever else, they try to convince
us that, oh, you took it out of context, You
took it out of content. The context don't.
Speaker 3 (19:39):
Make it no better.
Speaker 5 (19:40):
If you go back and you watch a full Charlie
Kirk show, a full Charlie Kirk podcast, he's gonna say
all kind of wild shit and try to justify he's
just a racist, like there's no reason white supremacist, right.
Speaker 2 (19:51):
And and to make that a martyr is crazy in
the country.
Speaker 7 (19:54):
Your white SuperMac you gotta came out with another white
nigga like they didn't have nothing to do with us,
that's all business.
Speaker 2 (19:59):
Bro.
Speaker 3 (19:59):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (20:00):
I didn't know anything about this guy.
Speaker 8 (20:02):
And the reason why is because if he was talking
about supporting Trump and bashing black people and all that,
I don't really like. I don't really indulge in that
type of shit. The only time I saw him was
on the Jubilee Round.
Speaker 5 (20:15):
The day he died, I got text from a bunch
of people that was like, who the fuck is Charlie Kirk?
Speaker 3 (20:20):
Like that name didn't ring bells us.
Speaker 5 (20:24):
Yeah, I'm saying outside of the white conservative, you know,
Christian nationalist community, they were tapped in, but nobody most
of the other people. He wasn't a figure that you
would see. He wasn't a knot of racist white people.
Like I've paid attention because that's the type of shit
I paid. Yeah, and like I look at niggas that
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has opposing views, but also like I be.
Speaker 3 (20:48):
What the y'all on? I wanted to ask, I want
to see what these racist niggas is talking about.
Speaker 1 (20:53):
I wanted to ask you, do we have any black
voices as strong in our community as Charlie Kirk's?
Speaker 3 (21:00):
Was no, yes and no?
Speaker 7 (21:02):
Right, okay, yes in the sense of it's who we
deemed that to be and there's a multitude of black voices,
right yes, no, no, because he was supported by lobbyists.
So turning point in USA, they get money from Palanteer
that's Israel money. So like basically he getting backed by
people that want to push that narrative and propaganda.
Speaker 3 (21:23):
And they started that early. They started when he was eighteen. Yeah,
so so.
Speaker 7 (21:27):
And the thing is is like this is not the
most educated person is a community college dropper. But at
the same time it's a narrative culture ward that's what
they're trying to win. I think anybody want to understand
like Charlie Kirk and like what he represented and how
it affected politics, you should watch this video by every Signifire.
You watch that video by Eric ft signaf and about
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Charlie Kirk and a Coat of Maga, you'll understand everything
about it. It's a two hour video, but it really
do like give you all the insights you need because
also just.
Speaker 1 (21:58):
The way that though are our community then receives or
consumes information, because why do we like if I think
of the voices that are really loud in our community,
I also feel like so many people are against their thoughts.
So like you have the Candie Owans, do you have
the Doctor Umar's, which to me.
Speaker 2 (22:14):
Is we don't have.
Speaker 7 (22:19):
We create amplifies voices that we can put in a
certain boxes like doctor Umar. For all intents and purpose,
it's a whole tep Nigga candiice Os is a coon,
you feel me? These are things that were comfortable with
talking about radical thought for real, like you say, like
everywhere you go you can't stop seeing my face. It's
because like honestly from what people say to me, it's
like this is an actual free thought, radical thought, right,
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But like for me, for me to be on a
Charlie Kirk type level, it would take like the back
end like funding and somebody the funnel money in right,
because it's bigger than.
Speaker 3 (22:54):
Just content and creating content.
Speaker 7 (22:56):
It's also about permeating or like being in certain spaces
like one hundred college campus is right if you are
if you have like a formulated debate mindset, and you
have your talking points setting stone you concrete and is
you got your counterpoints and everything like this is a
show for you and you going and talking to eighteen
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nineteen year olds that haven't even fully established their thoughts yet,
but their interest is being piqued by classes they're taking,
so they're very passionate about it, but they're not well
versed in like what their opinion is or how they
really feel about it. Of course he gonna eat them
alive and in debate, but these are also children. Anytime
you see him debate any adults and anybody with any
creditions whoo.
Speaker 3 (23:36):
They wiped the floor. He has the dumb look on
his face like he debated or had the third rowd gums.
Speaker 2 (23:42):
You ever seen that third gums is crazy?
Speaker 7 (23:45):
I haven't seen like the upper deck gums that niggas
have when they have little teeth.
Speaker 3 (23:49):
They go way over here that you can't trust people
that look like that.
Speaker 5 (23:53):
But to your point though, and like my good sister
Jamel Hill talks about this shit a lot and people
will always ask her this question and she's been talking
about this for years that for whatever reason, there is
this hesitancy to invest in black media. People will invest
a lot of things for the black consumption, for black demographics,
but black media is not one of them.
Speaker 3 (24:14):
Because they don't want us to tell our own stories.
Speaker 1 (24:16):
But not only that, let's be very clear, but when
we tell our own stories, like if we think about
maybe and maybe there's there's a lack of wanting to
hear from radical voices because if we again look at
the bigger voices within our space, we have the stephen A. Smith's,
which is crazy caricature. Again going back to Candice Owans
going to doctor Umar going to I mean, we we
platform for years, Charleston White like we have either.
Speaker 5 (24:38):
But that's the problem though, is that the Charlie Kirk
became a thing because a rich white man looked at him,
noticed something and said, hey, come here, I got something
for you.
Speaker 3 (24:48):
Gonna build it shuit up.
Speaker 8 (24:50):
It'll be that he got on because he doesn't like
black people and it's a lot of racist out here,
and they want to put it by him, like yeah,
your racist, tell the whole world that so are we.
Speaker 5 (25:04):
But that's the thing though, but a rich white man
had to empower him to give him some bread to
make it up. I guess my thing is by the day,
is that like even without you know, present company, non glazing,
Like all these niggas run around here, got money, Like
I don't know what your business situation is, But like,
why why wouldn't a nigga give Deontay Kyle one hundred
thousand dollars two hundred thousand dollars to help build his voice?
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Why wouldn't somebody come and give Lenney two hundred three
hundred thousand dollars and build her voice up? If you
recognize these people have motion, you recognize these people are
expressing thoughts that the community is taken to. Why wouldn't
Tyler Perry, Why wouldn't Jay Z Why wouldn't I mean,
Will Packett is doing his part to some degree, But like,
why aren't some of these people who have this bread
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and this opportunity wanting to invest in black media and
build those voices.
Speaker 7 (25:51):
Up because they benefit from the same politics that's against us.
There you go, they benefit from right wing politics. The
Republicans at the end today they may be quiet Republicans.
Speaker 3 (26:02):
That's quite that part.
Speaker 7 (26:04):
It's like it's like it's like quiet luxury, right, Like
you don't see the brand name, but a lot of money, right,
So it may they say maga, but yeah, but.
Speaker 5 (26:18):
It's one hundred percent maga cashmere on the back of
the side.
Speaker 7 (26:21):
Like the thing is is like if I'm rich, I
want the same tax benefits. I want the same X,
Y and Z. Also like, no matter how rich you are,
you still are in bed with like billionaire corporations.
Speaker 3 (26:33):
They don't. These niggas are the niggas that pay Charlie Kirks.
Speaker 7 (26:37):
If they pay a nigga like me, they could risk
their connections, they could risk their business. They can sabotaze
money and they never going to play what they play
and and.
Speaker 5 (26:46):
But and that's the problem, Like I feel out with
a homie during the first Trump campaign because not even
because to your point, like okay, if you're going to
First off, I thought he was kind of a coward
about it because he was one of them quiet magis
who was like, we're having conversations and he's like, you know,
you got to be careful to people who are gonna
vote for Trump.
Speaker 3 (27:05):
That's not gonna say they gonna vote for Trump. And
the whole time he talking about.
Speaker 2 (27:07):
Himselves, of course.
Speaker 5 (27:08):
But of course, but when it comes down to it
is like, bro, at a certain point, you have to
stop selling out for money, especially if you I understand
people in survival mode, and some people feel like I
gotta do what I gotta do.
Speaker 1 (27:22):
To I think, and I think that's the that's the
hard part. We are we've quietly been in a recession
for a few years now and this year. But that's
what I'm saying. A lot of a lot of people
are in survival mode. Everybody, which which does exactly what
it's supposed to do, which is what the government. It
brings us into the individualism that a lot of us
are like, it's kind of what we saw during when
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Kaepernick was taking a knee, there was football players that said, hey,
I got a family defeat. I know this is a
bigger picture here, but I ain't getting involved. And it's
kind of what we're seeing now. People really only care
about themselves. I mean, hey, I know I'm talking about
myself right now.
Speaker 2 (27:57):
I mean they were really like.
Speaker 6 (27:59):
That's everybody needs to be worried about themselves, but.
Speaker 1 (28:03):
They're not because I want to go into Also Super Bowl,
Kendrick Lamar performed. It's funny because Yonce was like, who
won that again, Kendrick. But what we saw was also
the announcement of Bad Bunny being named the Super Bowl
performer for twenty twenty six and baby that that was
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probably one of probably one of the most ignorant moments
and embarrassing moments of twenty twenty five as a country,
because people were not even realizing that Puerto Rico was
a part of the US of A.
Speaker 2 (28:37):
They was mad at the Espanols.
Speaker 6 (28:39):
Okay, but the thing is like, the well, as an Espanol,
I don't I don't get offended by that.
Speaker 2 (28:48):
Why did I not know you was? Where are you from?
Speaker 1 (28:51):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (28:51):
Okay, yeah, okay, Okay, look, she said, oh, I guess that.
Speaker 6 (29:00):
I didn't like get offended by it, Like I didn't
get offended.
Speaker 2 (29:03):
Okay, so then I did. I guess. I want to know, then,
your thoughts on during that moment of bad Bunny being announced,
What were your thoughts on just the outage driver?
Speaker 8 (29:16):
Where what I'm gonna be I'm talking about First of all,
I'm going to the game and I'm gonna be Puerto
Rican flagged out.
Speaker 2 (29:23):
She said, I'm pushing p So that was my first
initial thought.
Speaker 8 (29:27):
And then when I seen everybody talking about it, then
I'm like, motherfuckers are dumb because in the United States,
because they said, oh Ice is gonna be at the
game waiting for people to.
Speaker 3 (29:39):
To what send them back to a mayor.
Speaker 2 (29:42):
That you love it.
Speaker 6 (29:47):
One one more thing too, is because I mean, I
don't like the fact that Puerto Rico is now part
of the United States. I don't like that shit. I
don't like that. But I think that this is like
a big moment for Puerto Rico. So it's like I
was proud as well. But yegas.
Speaker 2 (30:08):
The ship Puerto Rican pitches, I know, no, wait a second, because.
Speaker 7 (30:16):
However, but niggas was sucking with the fact that Bad
Bunny got selected to niggas. Wasn't mad about you were
not mad, but we weren't mad. But my thing is
the point I was going and was mad.
Speaker 2 (30:29):
No, no, no, no. I liked it.
Speaker 1 (30:31):
I was like, I said, I gotta start learning. You know,
I'm so bad. I don't lived in the Bronx in Orlando.
There's no reason why. I don't know more Spanish. But
I'm here for for Bad Bunny doing the performance.
Speaker 2 (30:43):
They gonna be.
Speaker 7 (30:43):
I love ship like that though, because you just realized,
like how many people that support this nigga is idiots?
Speaker 2 (30:51):
No, they're they're idiots.
Speaker 3 (30:52):
It's literally like, can you even be upset with dumb people?
There's no point to me.
Speaker 1 (30:58):
What I found interesting is not only the allegiance to
Trump from just the idiot standpoint of it or or
the illiteracy of it all. I think it's interesting that
he led heavily with Christian values and we saw him
literally tell everyone, y'all, I don't even think I'm going
to heaven, y'all.
Speaker 2 (31:16):
Like there's been very little I kind of movement there.
Speaker 3 (31:21):
I love the like playing in a nigga face. You
know what I'm saying, he playing, and it's like they don't.
They're none the wise.
Speaker 5 (31:31):
From the very beginning, I always my analogy for Trump
was like the nigga in an alley and a long
trench coat that opening it up, got a trench coat
full of rolexes like come get you a watch, Come
get you a watch, I know you want something nice
for your wife, like, and people eat that ship up.
Speaker 7 (31:46):
I'm like, like, but that's I guess just a he's
a real New Yorker, like through and through, like the
real white like he's like a white.
Speaker 2 (31:53):
New Yorker, the white trash.
Speaker 3 (31:55):
Yeah York.
Speaker 7 (31:55):
You gotta think about this too, though, if you know
it's history, Every business that he's ever started on the
operator yeah fail. And so now the business of America
is on bankrupt And this is kind of like in
a line, this is what he do. He knows how
to ruin the business nigga, and the business of America
is in the shiitter.
Speaker 5 (32:15):
But America is so like they so on the dick
of capitalism that you don't even have to really have
the bread. You just have to fake like you got
the break. You have to present the image of I'm
rich I'm successful, I'm white.
Speaker 3 (32:29):
What else you need to know?
Speaker 7 (32:32):
And like that Danish y'all heard about that the Danish,
the nigga that was like acting like he was Danish royalty.
Oh bread, Yeah, and she didn't do no background check
or that they was like you ain't doing no background
check because he was white, because if you just said
he was Nigerian royalty, you would have been all through
the Google.
Speaker 2 (32:52):
I'm checking this. Sorry, Yeah, yeah, I'm saying not Jerry.
First of all, make your money.
Speaker 3 (32:59):
If you royalty, nigga, why are you emailing me? Right?
Speaker 2 (33:06):
That part? That part like niggas for this, Yeah, however,
I want to. I want to. I want to bring
in the I want to be bringing.
Speaker 1 (33:17):
The hypocrisy of it and lean it into pop culture
a little bit, because we did also see the support
from our community heavily and still for a billionaire for Diddy.
Speaker 2 (33:29):
Oh that's but that's just niggas being that's just what's
what's the difference.
Speaker 7 (33:34):
I don't think over women's support, but like niggas do
be on some like whole tap like trying to take
our black kings down that nigga ain't no king, Like
why not? Why is that the best that niggas not
a black king, that nigga is a rapist and a
sex trafficker and a fu nigga, and he'd be dancing
in niggas face.
Speaker 2 (33:53):
The dancing he liked, the playing people face in faces.
Speaker 6 (33:58):
Well, I don't, it's out all the way. But what
I think one of the things is is like.
Speaker 8 (34:04):
Sometimes like black people really don't give a fuck what
somebody else did to somebody else, like what you do
to me?
Speaker 6 (34:10):
Like I like your music, I fuck with you.
Speaker 3 (34:12):
I don't care what okay, what you did to nobody else,
what you did no else.
Speaker 8 (34:15):
A lot of people feel like that, like if it
don't affect them, it just don't affect them. I think
that that's fucked up. But that's just how certain people
look at shit.
Speaker 3 (34:23):
Well that's that individuality of a community. Shit.
Speaker 7 (34:26):
But I saw, like where your morals at, Bro, I'm
not supporting a nigga that's a sex trafficker, Bro.
Speaker 1 (34:32):
I think I think it's I think it's interesting though,
because for for years we've known him to do bad business, right,
I mean it's weird because not to put blame on
the generation before us, but it was interesting to see
all the things he did fucked up, Like I ain't
never know he killed nine people in that gym, like
when I saw that when I saw when I saw
the documentary. But it's the same thing, right, we knew
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that R. Kelly was out here pistol on bitches and
he still was able to have a career after Like
we've known so many things that are again, I guess
making making celebrities are leaders.
Speaker 2 (35:06):
We kind of just let them do it because what
we want to be them. We aspire to make the
they do.
Speaker 3 (35:11):
But that's big good, Like they're great songs, but they
ain't that good.
Speaker 2 (35:17):
I agree?
Speaker 3 (35:17):
Then, Yeah, I saw this Nigga Diddy. Every time some
people died, he came up.
Speaker 2 (35:21):
What were y'alls thoughts of the of the documentary?
Speaker 8 (35:24):
So I didn't get to watch the full documentary yet
because I gotta be in it. I want to be
locked in. But I'm I'm gonna be honest, Like what
he went down for we deserve. But I'd rather see
him go down for killing Pop.
Speaker 6 (35:37):
Goddammit.
Speaker 2 (35:38):
What now?
Speaker 1 (35:39):
My mama called me and was like to did he
really have something to do with pocking Biggie's mind?
Speaker 4 (35:43):
You?
Speaker 2 (35:44):
She white?
Speaker 1 (35:44):
She called me asking me about pocking Biggie's death having
something to do with did you I said, that is right,
don't do that.
Speaker 2 (35:51):
I was like, mom, time to hang up for me.
I'll be honest, I'll be honest my thought.
Speaker 1 (35:55):
Of it, and this, I don't know, y'all probably not
gonna like my thought because it was like, it was
very hard for me to have empathy for everybody there.
And it reminds me of the place that we're in
right now in twenty twenty five. It seemed like as
long as everybody got paid their money, they probably wouldn't
have had anything to say. And so for me, the
idea of becoming a victim only when you're done wrong again,
as long as someone gives you what you think you deserve,
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or you're old, you're okay with all the bullshit that
goes on around you. So you what I saw was
people turning a blind eye to him abusing Cassie. Allegedly
he shot someone in a room, and this nigga still
decided to work on the album.
Speaker 2 (36:30):
A lot of people saw the No. It was nuts.
Speaker 3 (36:34):
It was I thought I hit the gun shot and
saw it.
Speaker 2 (36:41):
I was like, bruh, no.
Speaker 1 (36:42):
And then the fact that he also said, I got drug,
woke up and my ass was sore, but I still
kept working on the album. But I only got upset
when my mother fucking checked it and clear, now you
got something to say.
Speaker 3 (36:54):
To me back door, blown out. I don't know to
stop stop you from.
Speaker 1 (37:02):
Not only that all of this is happening with you,
but you also are going to the strip club and
becoming a madam, a male madam to bring back bitch
to the house.
Speaker 5 (37:14):
They said that nigga put a hat on me to
let them know that I am the bitch getter bring
me the hole because I got the bad boy hat on.
Speaker 3 (37:23):
Let's go.
Speaker 7 (37:24):
The other thing is like, even even thirty minutes into
the documentary, they're saying the nigga had drugged the girl
raped the recorded it yep, playing the tap type.
Speaker 2 (37:39):
Party at parties, at parties, and first.
Speaker 3 (37:44):
Of all, if I walk into the party and it's
pouring a plan.
Speaker 2 (37:49):
Like what are you talking about? What are we talking about?
Speaker 3 (37:51):
Yes, niggas in here doing bro, why are we acting
like this isn't playing?
Speaker 1 (37:54):
But can I and I and I talked about the
idolization of criminals and games because allegedly this was something
that Alpo did.
Speaker 3 (38:02):
Yeah, and Alo and another thing, Appo is corny nigga
for that time.
Speaker 2 (38:06):
It's corny. It was bad.
Speaker 3 (38:08):
But I think that that let you get away with
anything when you got.
Speaker 1 (38:11):
Money or for a lot of for a lot of
those early days, he wasn't intern doing that, so he
just had He allowed people access to the best parties.
Speaker 2 (38:20):
He was a fucking party promoter.
Speaker 8 (38:22):
I think not only money, I think power. I think
a lot of times niggas get a lot of times
and it's gonna sound so fucking crazy, but a lot
of times niggas get scared when a nigga got power
and a nigga got money.
Speaker 6 (38:38):
That's number one. Number two.
Speaker 8 (38:40):
A lot of niggas will basically do whatever the fuck
if it if it's worth saving their family or I think.
Speaker 2 (38:48):
That's the thing. Everyone everyone has a price tag.
Speaker 1 (38:51):
And so it's unfortunate though that we now have to
toe with our human minds, the toe between having empathy
for a victim but also knowing that they were a
part of the problem. As long as they were being paid,
they were gonna be quiet, and so it's subspidtent.
Speaker 7 (39:05):
Money got blood on them, bro. But all of it
like he I'm gonna tell you something about that nigga.
That nigga had a keno for a bitch ass nigga.
Speaker 3 (39:12):
Yeah, you knew a spot.
Speaker 1 (39:13):
Yeah yeah.
Speaker 2 (39:14):
And I'm telling you everybody around him.
Speaker 3 (39:15):
Was that that nigga played with me like that, It
would have been I would have been in prison.
Speaker 2 (39:19):
Still, let's be honest. Even the guy that had the
five percent a bad boy.
Speaker 3 (39:25):
Look you gotta do it, show me, show me.
Speaker 7 (39:29):
You gave me twenty five percent of the company up front. Yeah,
and once the company is hell is successful and want
to back five percent is definitely in the millions. Now
you're like, oh, I need the twenty five back because
I got something to do.
Speaker 2 (39:41):
And let's say this though, I.
Speaker 8 (39:45):
I've been in certain situations to where it's like I
had to make a decision based off of me being scared, right, Sure, Like, now,
do I want.
Speaker 6 (39:54):
Empathy from a motherfucker?
Speaker 8 (39:56):
No, But at the same time, I do feel like
the person manipulating me scared me into making the decision because.
Speaker 2 (40:06):
I was fearful.
Speaker 5 (40:07):
No, intimidation is a real thing, and it happens to
a lot of people in various type of circumstances.
Speaker 3 (40:11):
But to be clear about that twenty five percent.
Speaker 5 (40:14):
Not only did he give the nigga the twenty five
percent up front, the reason he did it is because
he didn't want.
Speaker 2 (40:19):
To He didn't want to pay out.
Speaker 5 (40:20):
Yeah, he was from college. So the whole thing was
slimed from the very very beginning.
Speaker 3 (40:24):
That nigga's a slimb. It was sliming from the top.
Speaker 5 (40:27):
So it's like, but you gotta have bring money in
a bag a bat in the office, Like, that's not
gonna get it done.
Speaker 3 (40:32):
It was.
Speaker 2 (40:33):
It was a It was a good watch. But I
slapped out that.
Speaker 1 (40:36):
Nigga and we been rumbling in that office even even
as he was working and they were moving up the ladder.
The fact that he said he walked into the office
and did he was getting head by somebody and just
pretty much wanted him.
Speaker 2 (40:47):
To see that. Like, to me, there was just so
many ways bro a lot, but to me, the fact
that but the fact that people were.
Speaker 1 (40:55):
Getting their checks, they turned a blind eye, and so
it was really hard for me to watch and see
him be like, oh, so as long as you kept
getting this money, you probably wouldn't be in this dock right.
Speaker 6 (41:05):
Now, Okay, So let me ask you this. So say
somebody did step out and say something and nothing happened.
Speaker 2 (41:11):
Damn, What what do you mean by that?
Speaker 6 (41:13):
I mean like they stand up and be like Yo,
like this nigga's weird.
Speaker 2 (41:17):
You leave, you get another job.
Speaker 1 (41:18):
To me, if you really have an issue morally with
everything that's going on around you, mind you to me,
if you see a bitch getting raped, you see people
getting drug you're going to get people and bring people
to You're just you're an accomplice of this. Well, so
to me, when when shit hits the fan and Diddy's
like you're fired on some Trump shit, you're fired then,
and now you want to have tears, I don't what.
Speaker 6 (41:39):
Is that person's like.
Speaker 8 (41:40):
You're saying, like the person sees some bullishit, Oh you
walk in on him getting here.
Speaker 3 (41:44):
You're saying like there's no consequence to me.
Speaker 2 (41:47):
To me, if there's, if there's a price for you
to be a bad person, I'm sorry.
Speaker 1 (41:52):
I don't have empathy when that when that person decides
to stop paying you and now you're the victim. No,
you partook it a lot of those things. And I
think again, that's what we're seeing everything else, that's what
we're seeing right now in twenty twenty five. I think
that there is a lot of people in this like
right now where we're at, where again people are outfitting
for themselves. There's a lot of questionable ways in which
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people are showing up for a dollar, for a dime
or a look for some power, for a promotion that
it's like, bro, when shit don't go your way, you
don't get to come here and cry wolf and be
the victim.
Speaker 7 (42:23):
But it's the same thing white people do with Trump.
It's like, okay, as long as he's victimizing everybody else,
it's cool.
Speaker 3 (42:28):
But hold on what you mean?
Speaker 2 (42:29):
Hold on what do you mean? It's affecting me now.
Speaker 3 (42:31):
But that's Trump people.
Speaker 5 (42:33):
The people that love Trump that are magga down today,
dirty draws, they're not maga because of what Trump is
gonna do for them. They're maga because what Trump is
gonna do to somebody else. That's that's the whole thing.
They're not there for, like help me make this cheaper,
help me make this more affordable, help me.
Speaker 3 (42:50):
With my health care.
Speaker 5 (42:51):
That's not the whole point that he said we're gonna
kick out these Mexicans.
Speaker 3 (42:56):
Yeah, fuck them up. Yeah, But like, hen run your farm,
dumb man right right, eating lost the farm, But they don't.
They don't care.
Speaker 2 (43:03):
I'll be honest and not not even trying to make
this I take.
Speaker 1 (43:06):
I think it's interesting with I friends have a lot
of people that I know, we talk about farms. Who's
gonna clean your house? Who gonna do these jobs? There's
a lot of Americans right now with no jobs that
will not do those jobs. And I'm confused as to
where we've gotten to the place where we want the money,
we need the money. Rent's not going down, even the
fact that two parents to two adult households ain't really
(43:28):
making way. But yet there's still certain jobs that people
aren't willing to do.
Speaker 3 (43:32):
Or well that's the other historically.
Speaker 2 (43:35):
Because of the stereotype that we have a job.
Speaker 7 (43:39):
So so they're okay with They're okay with prisoners doing
the job. They're okay with immigrants doing the job because
it's slave labor to them. We're going to farm any
type of agriculture where you got to like sweater your
brow if you're not doing it with a machine, that's
slave labor.
Speaker 3 (43:53):
But that's what it has been here.
Speaker 5 (43:55):
And the crazy part about it is they've tricked, They've
they've devalued the idea of work ethic while also have
to work.
Speaker 3 (44:04):
I'm the health yeah, right, right, and what has that been?
That's that's that that you're the lowest of the low.
Speaker 7 (44:11):
So some people care about like people care more about
how they look than getting money, right, And that's a
it's a fund up, but it's a byproduct of this
whole ship. And it's also a byproduct of us not
being honest about the history of this country.
Speaker 3 (44:26):
And trying to like cover it up.
Speaker 1 (44:27):
But that's and that's the hard part about where we're going.
That's being removed from from history, from history as we speak,
as we're literally existing. So I don't know, it's interesting
because we do have about again three more years.
Speaker 2 (44:41):
Unfortunately, it's not necessarily true.
Speaker 3 (44:43):
Look, I mean, I'm saying, niggas check out every day.
Speaker 7 (44:47):
Yeah, niggas noting like and I'm telling you that the
ship not looking good like the you can see because
the thing is is like, think about how demanding that
job is, right, Yeah, it's very taxing on the mind
because you got to have so many tabs up and
all the game. If you're already old and you already
like a cognitive decline that's gonna exacerbate that. That's what
(45:11):
happened to Joe Biden, Like it's just too stressful, that
shit eat your brain. And what's happening to the American
people is that we've talked about the man. Everybody is
out here, finish for that. We're just trying to make
it to the next day. Pay your bills.
Speaker 5 (45:23):
And they just did a poll recently of people under
thirty years old, and twenty eight percent of the respondents
replied that they believe the political violence is okay in
the right situation. Oh, and that's where we are in America,
is that people like, at a certain point, you can
take you can take, you can take, you can strip
people of all this shit.
Speaker 3 (45:41):
At some point you're talking about earlier the.
Speaker 5 (45:43):
Pendulum, the pendulum swings back the other way, and sometimes
it's gonna swing back in a way that you're not
really ready for.
Speaker 1 (45:48):
I think it's interesting because I don't know how many
people have gotten to travel abroad this year. But I
remember I was living in Singapore in twenty sixteen, well
twenty fifteen, twenty sixteen, so when he was running for president,
before he even got elected, and the rest of the
world is laughing at us. The rest of the world
thinks that this is this place is a fucking joke. Now,
(46:08):
I do want to talk about it because we've talked politically,
but we are I also believe in what we're witnessing
this year more than ever is the fact that we
are amidst a technological revolution.
Speaker 2 (46:20):
So I want to talk about AI.
Speaker 1 (46:21):
Well, I want to talk about to me, That's what
the conversation has leaned heavily into because we've seen the
decline an end of so many jobs, jobs that came
about from the pandemic, but jobs that have also now
been taken away because of technology advancements. We see AI
coming about. I mean, I said probably every episode and
y'all can make fun of me. Chatchypt is my husband.
I know Deonta is not here for that.
Speaker 3 (46:44):
Chatgy. You could be your husband, but you're gonna end up.
Speaker 5 (46:46):
You're gonna end up on a Lifetime movie because your
husband want to kill you, me everybody else you.
Speaker 2 (46:52):
Think AI will kill us? By the way, shout out
to super Pretty say kid, go.
Speaker 6 (46:56):
Too far and get like that little fucking robot. She Oh,
I put my let's just say.
Speaker 2 (47:03):
I'm getting anything.
Speaker 8 (47:05):
Anything that the motherfuckers want to do to us, they
can do it right now. Don't think just this AI.
Speaker 7 (47:10):
Well, that's not my issue with AI. My issue with
what is yours? Okay, consumes not it does in a way.
In a way, I think any tool, if used properly,
is beneficial, right, sure, but I think if it comes
at the cost of our drinking water, I'm not with
the Yeah, it's a rap at the cost of our
drinking water. Like that's the main resource that it uses
(47:32):
is our drinking water, the pure water. These data centers
setting up data centers around big bodies of fresh water,
billions full of the computer, billions of gallons of water
because these computers run all day long.
Speaker 3 (47:44):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (47:45):
Yeah, that is the dumbest ship because.
Speaker 5 (47:48):
Why because the computers, it's computers, these data centers.
Speaker 3 (47:52):
They have to cool it.
Speaker 6 (47:54):
Okay, so what is the So now we're going to
be drinking AI water.
Speaker 1 (47:58):
No, the water gonna be water, nothing happen, Well, anybody,
we're gonna be out here drinking nasty as.
Speaker 3 (48:05):
There is no plan. Plan is to make money. Yeah,
that's it. That's as they as.
Speaker 7 (48:13):
They use more energy, they use more drinking water. And
and for whatever reason, the computers can't like there's no
other soluble water, Like it can't use salt water because
that would destroy the structure of the computer. So it
needs the same water that we drink. Is the water
it needs the coolest computers. And the more we run
out of water, the more of an impact it has
(48:34):
on the environment. The higher your light bill is gonna get,
the higher energy's gonna get, the higher, Yes, data centers,
we we are playing water everything. We're paying everyst we
paid the costs for other people. We lose resources, and
we spend the money to provide the loss of our resources.
Speaker 5 (48:56):
Right because those those same companies that build those data
centers are only in those places because they're getting a
kickback from the local government.
Speaker 3 (49:04):
To be there.
Speaker 2 (49:05):
I do, I do feel like there will be a
solution for this. There there will be a solution.
Speaker 3 (49:09):
I don't.
Speaker 1 (49:10):
I mean the same way if we think about what
the autobil industry with the exhaust now we have you know, hybrid.
Speaker 7 (49:16):
Cars and so all these things are understood, we should
be on solar power universally. But yeah, is that people
in these big oil, big oil, big gas operate like carsail.
Speaker 3 (49:29):
You gotta understand, like you want to know who really.
Speaker 7 (49:31):
Operate like a cartel, trum plastic people that are in plastic,
people that are in water, like NESTLEI, they operate like cartels.
So the thing is is like the nigga from Nestlie said,
water isn't a human right. Water isn't a human right?
Speaker 3 (49:45):
And they sell water? But how is it not a
human right? And it's literally a part of our human function.
Speaker 1 (49:50):
Well, and that's the thing I think too, when we
take and on a global scale, it's why it's why
we have Trump that's still trying to play nice with
so many countries because we're needed so many natural resources
from other countries that we don't.
Speaker 2 (50:03):
Create here here.
Speaker 3 (50:05):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (50:05):
Yeah, by the way, y'all, this is where it gets
a little rowdy. That's where it's I mean, if we
have well, we're gonna get into music and movies and
all the things in our next episode. But I do
want to round out with final.
Speaker 7 (50:18):
Thoughts on kind of chat GPT Nigga, all the AI,
all the AI, any of that ship niggagas.
Speaker 1 (50:27):
Actually plan to put it. So I planned to actually AI.
So what I'm gonna put a strap on my knee.
I'm getting the robot. I'm sorry, y'all.
Speaker 2 (50:37):
I am here for the advancements happening. I know it's
it's possible. People are ruining the country, like people are
ruining the world, and now like.
Speaker 3 (50:46):
Hey, you don't have to make so here here we go.
I mean you heard it.
Speaker 5 (50:50):
Here first is gonna mortgage our drinking No, she's trying
to get a nut. Okay, you're gonna have dirty water.
Speaker 2 (50:56):
That's crazy that it's not.
Speaker 7 (51:00):
Suppear that ai Mandy only fans that I did not
say that that free for the first ninety days. It's
gonna be only I'm gonna be managing this ship. What
you give it, gonna bring it, We're gonna bring. We're
gonna have ne or gang bangs. I'm gonna put a
VR headset on her. It's gonna be live.
Speaker 6 (51:20):
Now.
Speaker 7 (51:20):
I think all the drinking water that's gonna be wasted
and commission of this, we're gonna be rich as ship though,
so so it's all good.
Speaker 3 (51:27):
We'll get our own water reserve, you know what I'm saying.
We will be good. Well, we'll own water, you know
what I'm saying. And Mandy will be getting slooded out
by robots.
Speaker 2 (51:35):
Oh my god, it's shut up. I think I think
for me it's and I mean, maybe.
Speaker 3 (51:40):
He's a woman of the future. Clearly can we can
we die?
Speaker 1 (51:46):
But also I mean I think I think it's difficult
again when we sit here and talk about all of
the problems we're facing.
Speaker 2 (51:53):
I don't know, a part of me just feels like it's.
Speaker 3 (51:56):
It's bleak out here. It's yeah, it gets a little noo. Yeah,
it's bleak out here.
Speaker 7 (52:02):
At some point, it's like it does get to a
level where it's like even with me, where I'm just like.
Speaker 3 (52:08):
Why do I why? Why? But then but then after
you calm down, he's like, Okay, you should.
Speaker 1 (52:14):
I mean, there's but the reasons that care about I
just well, dang, I just can't care about Like it's
hard to care about everything. Yeah, And I think that
that's what this year has done for me more than anything,
Like I have to pick and choose, like and it's
like there's just so much. I mean, clearly, there's women's rights,
there's there's Black Lives matter, there's our fucking what's what's
(52:39):
the word with everything happening right now? Climate control, there's
the growth of technology, there's.
Speaker 2 (52:46):
People needing to eat like.
Speaker 1 (52:48):
It's not like even even when it came to like
snap benefits being like it's it wasn't just of course
our black community, like they try to make believe with
all that bullshit, it's older.
Speaker 2 (52:59):
It's the AI is enforcing very.
Speaker 3 (53:02):
Bad well, the creators and the people who operated our race.
Speaker 2 (53:06):
There you go. I will say for me AI being
a fucking loser like that.
Speaker 7 (53:10):
No, it was. I didn't having one of the most
technologically advanced supercomputers like I'm going to make black people
look bad with this. Yeah, niggas are fucking losing literally,
and I hope that robot turn around and kill you.
Speaker 3 (53:22):
Niggas did billions of dollars of research and development just
so they can call you nigger. Yeah in binary code
that you just said that you don't need that.
Speaker 8 (53:32):
I didn't get to say like twenty twenty five for me,
but twenty twenty five made me like realize, Number one,
mother fuckers need to work for themselves. You can figure
it out and get church fucking bri it church.
Speaker 2 (53:46):
Like I think that is.
Speaker 1 (53:47):
I think that's an easy statement to make. I will say,
I think majority of people are workers.
Speaker 6 (53:53):
No, no, no, no, like that, but you're not.
Speaker 8 (53:56):
But you can't what I'm saying though, you're not hearing
what I'm saying, like whatever it is because they can't,
people are losing their jobs.
Speaker 2 (54:04):
I get that.
Speaker 8 (54:05):
I know what you're saying, but you gotta figure What
I'm saying is it's too many ways out here to
make money.
Speaker 2 (54:11):
Sounds good, that's another thing that sounds good.
Speaker 8 (54:13):
No, it is, but but other ways you figure out
how to make money, and you got to figure it that.
I'm not saying that everybody needs to do that, but
I feel like that would be your best bet.
Speaker 1 (54:27):
But if people could, they would A lot of people,
let's be clear, Like, but between the fact that I
don't know, I was takes too much work, but it's
not even But that's where the.
Speaker 5 (54:35):
Sam that's where the easy route comes in. That's where
the cutting corners comes in because people are doing that
but they're not.
Speaker 2 (54:40):
But also that's what they're doing. They're making it harder
to do that.
Speaker 3 (54:44):
Yeah, hard to do that.
Speaker 1 (54:46):
So to me, the idea that just go out there
and make money, start your own business, like I think
that's probably the worst thing.
Speaker 2 (54:52):
That just be telling people to start your own business.
But get your own money. Go get money however you can.
Speaker 3 (54:57):
That'sogy.
Speaker 2 (54:58):
If people could, If people could what I think.
Speaker 1 (55:01):
I think the fact too that in terms of when
we go into what's being taken away from us, when
we talk about the budgets and the Department of Education,
when we talk about the budgets in the medical field,
when we talk about like healthcare not being affordable for
so many people, you also are the place where people
are are not reaching above sixth grade reading levels. So
when we talk about when they become adults, we're talking
about illiteracy rates rising. We're talking about the fact that
(55:23):
people are being misinformed. To me, even AI has done
heavily that this year. The fact that I have to
go under the comments or make sure AI is working
to tell me that it's AI. Like in terms of
how we're all even gathering information, we're gathering it from
our phones. We're not even watching the news anymore. We're
going to the blogs. And so unfortunately that's how we work.
Speaker 5 (55:44):
The blog the blogs, like the hand what was that?
That was like the Leonardo DiCaprio like, oh this nigga
is like god, damn.
Speaker 2 (55:52):
You are you listen? You blog?
Speaker 1 (55:55):
Era job okay, And so I think the way that
we even consume the information and how we're having to
fact check what we're consuming a lot of people don't.
Speaker 2 (56:03):
They see it and they go with it. Facebook is
is that's all of it.
Speaker 7 (56:07):
I think that there's a lot of people in this
country and everybody is going to have the thing that
matters to them, and that's like you advocate.
Speaker 3 (56:14):
And work your spot, work the spot that you just
care about.
Speaker 7 (56:17):
And because one person caring about everything, being informed versus
being an advocate is two different things.
Speaker 3 (56:23):
I'm informed of a lot of things. I advocate for
certain things, right, you know what I mean.
Speaker 7 (56:27):
So I think even to your point, what you're advocating
for is like some form of independence outside.
Speaker 3 (56:33):
Of corporate.
Speaker 7 (56:35):
See what it is like the more people that lose jobs,
the more jobs that AI take, and the tougher the
administration get what's classified.
Speaker 6 (56:44):
Don't want to They don't want you to make no money.
Speaker 3 (56:46):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, because because what they're trying to.
Speaker 7 (56:49):
Bring, like the thing about AI and what is going
to eventually happen, is that you're gonna have a bunch
of niggas working for data centers and company towns driving
cars on by the data center, living in housing.
Speaker 3 (57:00):
Big brothers right back to the rail yard. Sorry to
bother you, that's what it's gonna turn into. It's sorry
to bother.
Speaker 7 (57:07):
The thing is is that I understand exactly what both
of y'all are saying, because it's not easy to find
out how to make your own money. But there needs
to be some urgency towards figuring out what your spot
is and how you can work your spot and figure
out some shorter stream of income where you're not solely
dependent on a company for your income because they're never
(57:28):
going to give you enough, so you have to figure
out something for yourself. Also, I understand where you're at
where it's like, Look, entrepreneurship ain't easy. Also, finding a
way to make money that's actually substantial, it ain't easy.
Speaker 1 (57:39):
And then when you do figure it out, right, like,
we have so many people that monetize off TikTok and YouTube.
Speaker 2 (57:45):
Guess what they do.
Speaker 1 (57:46):
They push the goal post and now exactly and now that,
and now these companies are like, oh no, we're going
to push the goal post. You need more views, you
need more Actually, now you have to pay us to
even push your content. So you have to pay for ads.
We're gonna lower the CPM purview. Like so it sounds good,
but in hindsight, these corporations that we're still expecting they're
(58:08):
gonna find away and be a worker. Back to why
I said nigga podcasting, we went from being able to
have one podcast a week now niggas gotta drop three four.
Speaker 2 (58:16):
Well have Patreon do live show.
Speaker 6 (58:19):
About the stuff that like that is needed and people
don't have.
Speaker 8 (58:22):
But it goes back to what you said, people don't
want to do the slave work, but shit, we need
somebody on that motherfucker farm and motherfuckers is needed.
Speaker 7 (58:29):
This is why I advocate. That's why I say I
advocate for certain things. I advocate for trades. If you
gotta skill trade, nigga can't take that away from you.
I agree, right, And the thing he is is like
we live in a certain era now where to your point,
like being a farm hand, it really ain't going to
be ashamed of it. It is actually assigned of independence.
But the stigma of it being such a large class job.
(58:51):
What's so is a trash man, But the trash man
make more than the teacher.
Speaker 5 (58:56):
So that's the pro niggas have to decide at some
point do you want to be stable? Do you want
to be sexy?
Speaker 2 (59:00):
And I think that's want to want.
Speaker 3 (59:02):
To want to be a sexy trash man. My nigga
be the sexy. Yeah you can, you could, you could.
Speaker 5 (59:08):
I don't know what the I ain't gonna with the
protocol is, but I bet you could be a trash
man and be a viral content creator.
Speaker 2 (59:14):
You can't them arms and I know them arms are strong.
You're picking up them bad. You're picking up them bad.
Let me see your arms go to work.
Speaker 5 (59:22):
You could be on Live hanging off the side of
the truck and hell yeah, throwing that bad figuring out,
fregguring out whatever it is. But I mean, but ultimately,
like a fan over here, get dirty, brother, I love
a fan in the unif get dirty.
Speaker 7 (59:36):
Get dirty way you look subscribe But GPC only fans
Mandy And what's the nigga name theo Andy Neo. It's
gonna be me in there with the br hand set.
Speaker 3 (59:50):
And like his names and Neo is already.
Speaker 7 (59:53):
Like said, these niggas aren't low that the apple has
a a bite taken out of it on your Mac.
For a reason, these niggas ain't load, So what where
are you niggas?
Speaker 2 (01:00:06):
Name that?
Speaker 3 (01:00:07):
That was some real third eye ship the nigga name
sign I drop a who is a neo right now?
Who got a coop?
Speaker 2 (01:00:13):
The lead of the matrix. These niggas ain't These niggas
ain't load sign that. What's the bite of the apple?
Speaker 3 (01:00:18):
The bite of the apple?
Speaker 7 (01:00:20):
It was a big industrial technological revolution. Garden of eating,
you know what, spread of information. That's the whole about
the Garden of eating.
Speaker 3 (01:00:28):
But I do want to play your point though, is
that you know what I'm saying. I don't want to
go to I literally am one of those niggas.
Speaker 2 (01:00:36):
I hate j I saw that and put a coofye
on his head. Please yeah, I want.
Speaker 3 (01:00:43):
Because who was King's nigga?
Speaker 2 (01:00:44):
Remember that?
Speaker 5 (01:00:45):
But to your point, though, I get this for a
lot of people, it is overwhelming to see so much
shit going on and feeling like you have to care
about everything, investing everything.
Speaker 3 (01:00:53):
But it's like everybody has a part to play.
Speaker 5 (01:00:56):
Yeah, And so I wouldn't just want to encourage people
to even if you are feeling overwhelmed, like don't feel
like you have it's not on you to.
Speaker 3 (01:01:03):
Solve every single ill.
Speaker 5 (01:01:06):
It's just about you to do your part that you
can that you know that you can do to contribute
to the better, be that positive.
Speaker 2 (01:01:13):
I get it.
Speaker 8 (01:01:14):
We all need to come together. We do, that's but
y'all not understanding that. Like there's a lot of people
out there that got their own ship going on. People
are dying, and it makes.
Speaker 3 (01:01:24):
It hard to come together when you're trying to survive yourself.
Speaker 2 (01:01:28):
And that's what we're at.
Speaker 8 (01:01:29):
So it's like when we when us as people we
over here dealing with this over there. It takes a
lot of energy, not including like the emotional the physical,
Like you got you gotta go through a lot of ship.
People got kids, people got marriages, people got sick parents.
Speaker 7 (01:01:45):
That people live heavy enough, yes, Like, and we're supposed
to use entertainment as escapism and they turn it into
like trauma trauma nigga, Like I hate this.
Speaker 6 (01:01:56):
That's watched that ship. That's because I got other ship
and kid been.
Speaker 7 (01:02:00):
Real, bro, Like, when you got problems with niggas and
niggas is trying, you can put the phone down and
get busy with niggas. Stop recording that ship. Yeah, you
know what I'm saying stop recording. You don't got to
punch the racist out on camera. They gonna know what happened.
Speaker 2 (01:02:13):
Mm hmmm.
Speaker 3 (01:02:13):
And also like in fighting with niggas online, stop doing that,
all right?
Speaker 2 (01:02:18):
Stop doing it?
Speaker 3 (01:02:19):
Stop doing that, bro.
Speaker 2 (01:02:20):
Yeah, I don't nobody.
Speaker 3 (01:02:22):
Line DM drop the load, get it shaken.
Speaker 2 (01:02:25):
I know that's right. Do I'll say to that who're
doing it? I mean I don't. I don't know er
stand where I'm not. You know, we can have opinions.
Speaker 1 (01:02:35):
Anyways, guys, this is part one. Make sure you tune
in Friday Part two. We're lightning the mood, y'all.
Speaker 2 (01:02:41):
We are talking. This was deep, this was deep ocurreda.
We're gonna be more woke with you think movies, film, television.
Speaker 7 (01:02:50):
That's what I'm gonna break down, the unseen scenes and
crazy unspoken decisions.
Speaker 2 (01:03:01):
Y'all, y'all, make sure y'all tune in Friday Part two.
Speaker 3 (01:03:04):
I said, it's not like the our spinoff.
Speaker 2 (01:03:07):
It's gonna be Jojo Jo Diata and myself.
Speaker 1 (01:03:10):
We are talking all things twenty twenty five music, television, film,
and I guess we're gonna make y'all think.
Speaker 2 (01:03:15):
Y'all, y'all really some thinkers in here. Goddamn, this is deep.
Speaker 3 (01:03:19):
Now, were gonna have fun.
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Speaker 1 (00:38):
This is Mandy be Welcome to Selective Ignorance, a production
of the Black Effect Podcast Network and Iart Radio. Welcome back,
y'all to another episode of Selective Ignorance. A very special
episode because maybe we are talking about the twenty twenty
five year in wrap up, the year that the Hot
Cheeto entered office, the year the AI took over, and
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of course, the number one hip hop artists in the
world this year was Diddy.
Speaker 2 (01:04):
Can you believe it. That's right.
Speaker 1 (01:06):
Everybody was talking about Diddy this year for all of
the wrong things.
Speaker 3 (01:10):
Why won't you party with me for your birthday?
Speaker 4 (01:12):
Man?
Speaker 1 (01:12):
We're getting into the documentary. We're getting into the child
Take Me Shopped. We're getting into the first hundred days
of our new president, even though a lot of us
don't want to consider him our president.
Speaker 2 (01:23):
He is Project twenty twenty five. Was it a spoop?
Not really.
Speaker 1 (01:27):
We may actually be going through those pages and we're
gonna talk about that along with Kendrick at the super Bowl,
amongst other things.
Speaker 2 (01:38):
Welcome, y'all.
Speaker 1 (01:39):
I am not joined by my super producers today. Instead,
I am joined by some very special friends and some opinionated.
Speaker 2 (01:48):
I guess personalities.
Speaker 1 (01:49):
We have my guy, Jason Lee aka Jah aka not.
Speaker 5 (01:55):
Hollywood Unlock Jason Lee, you have nouse period.
Speaker 1 (01:58):
We are also joined by someone you may very well know,
the other gentleman. I'm saving the best for last, which
is the woman, which is different. But we do things
differently over here. I have Viante Kyle from the gritzineg
podcast and listen. He is in Everyone's algorithm, on Everyone's timeline.
Say literally literally, I don't know what type of things
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he got over with Zuckerberg and Facebook, but he is
that algorithm is.
Speaker 2 (02:27):
Picking him up.
Speaker 1 (02:28):
Okay, and then we have my girl Jojo Altzo. Y'all
may hear her on the b A t L or
Broken play show over on Black Effects. So we hear y'all,
we are getting tequila today. So by the second hour
or by the second episode of this show, y'all are
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gonna get y'all are gonna get true for Mandy and
maybe true form job Jojo Andante. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
Well I'm really excited.
Speaker 2 (02:59):
We're gonna talk twenty twenty five. Yeah, yeah, you know,
I guess real quick. How did everyone enjoy their twenty
twenty five?
Speaker 1 (03:06):
Was this a year to enjoy the best year of
my life? Okay, okay of my life. I'm not mad
at that. I'm not mad at that.
Speaker 6 (03:15):
That's good.
Speaker 3 (03:15):
My ship turned. Yeah, that's a beautiful thing. Man.
Speaker 5 (03:19):
Congratulations to you for real, like you deserve that. We
see you working hard out here.
Speaker 2 (03:23):
Absolutely.
Speaker 5 (03:24):
I woke up with a spirit of gratitude this morning.
I just feel like I'm happy to be here with y'all, yeah,
doing this. I'm happy that we are healthy and we
still here doing what we love to.
Speaker 2 (03:32):
Do like me too. I'm trying to switch it because
I woke up in a good mood this morning. Yeah,
uh huh.
Speaker 6 (03:39):
But it's going better. It's going better.
Speaker 3 (03:40):
It's not a bad dance with a bad moment.
Speaker 1 (03:44):
It's funny because the audience, like they all know, even
like when I'm on tour, like and we do meet
and greets, they be like, bitch, be on time when
we was doing our book stops.
Speaker 2 (03:53):
Oh no, no, no, they know.
Speaker 1 (03:55):
Like the probably worst thing with me is timing. Mind you,
I just talked about on my on my bonus episode.
I also am in this phase of realizing I might
be neurodivergent. So there's a lot of like, O, no, wait,
we can't neurodivergent, which is you know how like to me,
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I think in the last five years, we don't introduced.
Speaker 7 (04:18):
A whole lot of new works basically calling ourselves autistic
just basically okay.
Speaker 2 (04:23):
No, no, no, no, I don't think I'm that far
on the spectrum of auto. I'm somewhere on it.
Speaker 3 (04:28):
I feel like, see, I think all of us autistic.
Speaker 2 (04:31):
It's special love is it?
Speaker 1 (04:34):
My son?
Speaker 2 (04:34):
Is nerd divergent is autism?
Speaker 7 (04:37):
That's that's the that's the implied you know what I'm saying. Yeah,
that's because it's a spectrum. They say ned divergent, so
it's okay, divergent, neurotypical, So they don't make people feel
like because people kind of does a stigma behind autism.
Speaker 8 (04:51):
I want, I know, I want us to normalize that
me and we're seeing it a lot more lately.
Speaker 2 (04:57):
No, a whole lot, Like I mean, our president is
is you know, like we.
Speaker 7 (05:02):
Divergin that nigga is old and white, old and white
and racist and racist, racist, dementia, narcissist.
Speaker 1 (05:12):
But I know that in word, we gotta they want
us to stop using so we can't. We can't narcissists.
Speaker 3 (05:17):
But when it's a very apparent narcissist, you know, it
is what it is.
Speaker 5 (05:21):
That's but that's the thing about words, right in twenty
twenty five, I feel like that was the thing, like
people taking words and like bastardizing them to the point
where people think that they don't mean nothing like that.
Speaker 2 (05:30):
Even that are we allowed to say bastard anymore?
Speaker 8 (05:34):
No more, like like by calling somebody an actual bastard,
like you mean it, like you don't take care of
your kids.
Speaker 3 (05:39):
Yeah, yeah, like text, what definition of bastard just.
Speaker 7 (05:43):
Means that you was born out of west in the world?
Speaker 4 (05:48):
Right.
Speaker 2 (05:50):
I was about to say, right here, my mom and
dad never married, and yet here we.
Speaker 3 (05:56):
Are, my folks. You know what I'm saying, holding me
down el bast or over here?
Speaker 2 (06:03):
I got me like, oh you kid over here, Oh
that's what you grew up in a two parent household.
Speaker 7 (06:08):
I love that for you too, But yeah, it just
wasn't there. And I'm gonna say this, you know what
I'm saying. Around like nine, ten years old, she started
getting different in the bitch. Okay, when your parents start
hating each other, that shit sucks. Oh damn like damn
you and beef you in the war zone, nigga all
the time. It's like it's only peace when it's only
one parent.
Speaker 4 (06:28):
Huh.
Speaker 3 (06:28):
When they bove there, it's like tension in that bitch. Nah.
Speaker 8 (06:30):
I grew up in a two parent house, so it
was straight you feel me, See, like when we grew up,
we found out like whatever else was going on, but
at the time we know shit, you feel me? Well,
maybe because I was just younger, I won't paying attention
my sisters, my older sisters.
Speaker 3 (06:43):
Probably was like, nah, I ain't gonna hold you. When
they told us they was getting a divorce.
Speaker 6 (06:47):
I was like, thank god, I think you didn't go
to the opposite way right now, we've had enough.
Speaker 2 (06:52):
It becomes a lot, It becomes a lot.
Speaker 5 (06:53):
I feel like a Huxtable kid over here, like like
I don't have no Like my parents, they thought I
was the Oreo when I was in elementary school because
I had my mom. My mom was a lawyer, my
dad was a PhD. Like they thought that they was
in the suburbs, and yeah, I'm old and here they yeah,
they don't even have that.
Speaker 2 (07:11):
And I'm on.
Speaker 1 (07:12):
The spectrum where y'all wouldn't believe my white mom was
on foodsteps. So that's when we got, well we'll get
in Florida.
Speaker 3 (07:20):
You aren't gonna have an asterisks and everything like they
have a Florida white. No, that's a crazy Florida That's
what I'm saying, is a Florida white, crazy white.
Speaker 2 (07:33):
See what I mean.
Speaker 6 (07:34):
Okay, that's what I think of when I think Florida white.
Speaker 2 (07:38):
See what I mean? This is crazy.
Speaker 3 (07:40):
Let's talk about did you have a driveway?
Speaker 2 (07:43):
Yes, I did have a driveway. Had drive.
Speaker 3 (07:47):
Were good.
Speaker 1 (07:49):
That is it's crazy because I've leaned so much into
the last couple of weeks on stereotypes. But to me,
this year, because of the administration that's in the office,
boy of stereotypes been like highlighted, like stereotypes between us
as black people. We saw that happen with stap benefits.
We've seen also the Espanols and all.
Speaker 2 (08:12):
Of them have been I'm just I'm just saying, apparently,
you know what's crazy.
Speaker 1 (08:21):
And I want to say that because we'll get into
the first hundred days of the Trump administration, and when
I bring the Espanols up, there was two things that
to me such out crazy. I'm saying this year it
was one of two things that I saw. And maybe
again because Florida, right, you had the Hispanics that leaned
heavily into championing their vote for Trump, and then you
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had the others that were like dealing with ice. And
so what we saw is even our community be like, well,
y'all voted for a nigga, so we don't really have
the the empathy that maybe we should. But we also
saw the separation between all brown like brown ain't poc,
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ain't brown black, Like there's a separation.
Speaker 3 (09:09):
I don't deal with that, poc.
Speaker 2 (09:11):
Sh I'm not a fan of it either. I'm not
a fan.
Speaker 3 (09:13):
Don't try to lump all people of coloring together when
like everybody has individual struggle. Individual it's that too.
Speaker 7 (09:20):
But then even just being a black American, like all
these cultures have some sembilance of anti blackness, Like it's prevalent,
you know what I'm saying, Like a Florida Cuban they
don't know other that's like white, that's like, that's maggot
two point Oh that's curious.
Speaker 6 (09:34):
Dominicans.
Speaker 2 (09:35):
Oh no, the Dominicans.
Speaker 6 (09:41):
Black as hell, but they ain't black.
Speaker 7 (09:43):
Yeah, they're just that Sammy Sausa, you know what I'm saying,
Like the nigga Sammy Saucer went verse.
Speaker 3 (09:50):
He turned inside out.
Speaker 2 (09:53):
Was awesome. Sh I think.
Speaker 1 (09:54):
I think for me, that's what this year shined light
on more than anything was it started separating so many
of us, like not even by color, but also by sexuality.
With they said, oh, pandemic over, No more pride flags
going up. They said, oh, pandemic over. We don't care
about about black lives anymore. Oh, it's pandemic over. Women's rights.
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Let's go ahead and take all of those away. I
just feel like during the height of the pandemic there
was some sense of humanity. It was maybe because so
many people lost their lives and things like.
Speaker 6 (10:27):
That thing we're helpful. People were like trying to help
other people.
Speaker 1 (10:32):
Well, not only that, hold on, let's also get into
the workers, the essential workers. That now because majority of
black women having those positions, we're now gonna take away
that from being professional degrees, which means you're not gonna
be able to get the money to even do these
jobs anymore.
Speaker 2 (10:46):
Like this year, to me has been the year.
Speaker 1 (10:49):
Where I was like, world peace, US unite in anything bucket,
We'll never see it in our lifetime.
Speaker 5 (10:56):
I don't know's I like with the pandemic it was
it's two sides of that. I think people in communities
were trying to help each other. But all of that DEI,
all of the flags, all of that stuff, like that's
all corporate humanity. Like people were trying to make a
couple of dollars, Like the whole world has stopped and
nobody was out spending money like that, nobody unless you
was here in Atlanta buying hookah but like.
Speaker 3 (11:18):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 5 (11:19):
But for the most part, like the world that stopped
people wasn't making money. But these companies know that if
you're not making no money, who was the one customer base,
who was the one demographics you could run to to
a piece to get some money, to spend some money
some niggas.
Speaker 3 (11:32):
You can.
Speaker 5 (11:33):
You can try to throw niggas a bone, You can
try to put BLM out there. You can try to
act like you care about these things we care about.
Get a couple of dollars, and now the time is over,
and now we're back to our record.
Speaker 7 (11:44):
I think my perspective on that is that where everybody
having to sit down and people being at home, that
everybody just figured out they was all a part of
the same class all at once. So then you conflate
in a lot of different issues at once. But we
all sitting down and we steal. So you see something
like with George Floyd happened. It's magnified by the fact
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that motherfuckers ain't in the rat race all day, right,
and then they start sitting and watch it. The impact
get it a little harder, and then TikTok growing in
popularity gets to a point where people are everyday people
and they relateing to one another over this app that's
not based on celebrity status or monetary value. So I
think the big thing is like, yeah, you know, maybe
from corporations it was beneficial to act like you act
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like you put on. But I think also it's a
pendulum thing too. The only way to swing that pendulum
back from us realizing we are part in the same
class is to separate us at every turn, every other term, race,
the sexual orientation, all of these different things, especially like
we get back to misogyny, we getting back heavy on that,
and that's patriarchy because the voice, the loudest voices were
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the most downtrotten people in society during the pandemic.
Speaker 3 (12:58):
Right the swing back into the.
Speaker 7 (13:00):
Direction of like white supremacists and straight white men is
that was the mo It's like, oh, we're losing our
country and woola wood wool and we don't matter all.
The hardest thing to be as a white man right now,
it's like, nigga, shut up.
Speaker 3 (13:12):
That's crazy.
Speaker 5 (13:13):
They ever tried to play Like the fact that they
try to try to play the victim is I just
try to play the victim as a as a white
person in general, but definitely a white man.
Speaker 3 (13:22):
Got a show called mad Men where like your.
Speaker 8 (13:24):
Whole shit is literally white, all of like the history
black history. Because we've seen that he took away like
you can't get into the park for free on Martin
Luther King Day.
Speaker 2 (13:34):
Yeah, he just did.
Speaker 6 (13:34):
He just did that birthday.
Speaker 2 (13:37):
But it's not only him.
Speaker 1 (13:38):
We have to talk about too, just how many Republicans
are like one votes in the last primaries midterms where
even in Florida they took away critical race theory. You
can't say gay in Florida. And there's certain other states,
other red states that are following those. I think Texas
may have also done it as well. And these are
huge states when it comes to presidential elections, and so
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when you have pretty much I think also he went
into the Smithsonian and decided to take take things that
he was like, Nope, I don't think this happened.
Speaker 3 (14:07):
Try to remove Jackie Robinson.
Speaker 7 (14:10):
I think the bigger thing too, is just the comfort
the largest voter base, which is white people. White the
majority are the country. But I think also he's a businessman.
His biggest consumer base in the country is white people.
And they gonna spend their bread if they feel like
everything is going in their favor, like white people are
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gonna like you could just tell them, like everything good,
you back on top.
Speaker 3 (14:35):
But y'all this new Starbucks cup.
Speaker 7 (14:37):
Look at this ship, and niggas is lining up like
it's a lot of obedience that come with feeling superior
and the consumer like they just feverish consumers and shit,
when niggas feel like the country is against us, that's
when we start getting into boycotts. That's why we start
getting and they gotta make sure that their biggest consumer
base isn't in alignment with these boycotts.
Speaker 2 (14:56):
So I will say, we saw that happen with Targets.
Speaker 6 (14:59):
Targ black people was like, okay, well fuck being at Target.
Speaker 8 (15:02):
And it was a couple of people still in there,
you know what I'm saying, Like when that happened, sales drop.
Speaker 2 (15:08):
Yeah, oh yeah, they've lost billions.
Speaker 3 (15:09):
You see what I'm saying.
Speaker 5 (15:10):
Every every quarter, every quarter, it got ugly for Target
to the point where their CEO had to be replaced,
and like it was, it was a mess over it
and it's still a mess over there.
Speaker 7 (15:19):
It's gonna be a mess because the thing is is
like you don't realize what that is. It's like everything else,
it's white flight when black people start getting money and
we stopped going to Walmar and we're now in target
that make white people pivot and go to other places
and ship like that too.
Speaker 3 (15:33):
But also it's like mother, niggas gonna spind that bread
if they.
Speaker 8 (15:36):
Got, Well, why are white people so scared of black people?
Like God damn, I mean you got I don't want
to or I gotta go somewhere.
Speaker 7 (15:45):
But it's also an understanding that like the only way
that they can see the world is the way they
see the world, right, So it don't make sense to
them that we went and retaliated, right.
Speaker 3 (15:54):
But niggas really just at the end of that one
to be left alone straight up.
Speaker 2 (15:57):
That's it.
Speaker 3 (15:57):
Much like if you leave me in a funck alone.
Speaker 7 (16:00):
It was like, leave me out your thoughts, leave me
out your conversations, leave me out your legislation. Nigga'n have
to be centered, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (16:10):
I don't know what that's like.
Speaker 2 (16:11):
Here's the thing that I'd like to know, y'all thoughts.
Speaker 1 (16:13):
Because at the top of the year, however, we also
saw a lot of our our people of our.
Speaker 2 (16:19):
Culture kind of aligned during the inauguration. You had Snoop Dogg.
Speaker 1 (16:22):
There you hat Nelly, We have Wayne as heavily supported
Trump for getting him off. We see Nicki Minaj was
just as well at the United Nations speaking in support
of Trump. What does it look like, however, though, for
our big named people to align now, especially because politics
has essentially become a part of pop culture. I've never
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in my life, and I don't know if it's just
because I'm finally getting older, I've never seen politics be
so taken in and discussed amongst everybody, like even the
younger generation, our generation, the ones like it's now literally
a talking point. That also makes things a little bit testy.
But what are our thoughts about the black our community
that are heavily supporting also Trump because he got three
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more years.
Speaker 8 (17:06):
My thing is is supporting who the fuck you want
to support? Okay, that's what you're gonna do, Then that's
what you're doing. Like that's not affecting me just because
I see you supporting them, like it's already happened.
Speaker 6 (17:16):
He's already there, Like.
Speaker 8 (17:18):
Okay, being upset that you supporting him, Like, what is
me gonna be upset at what you got going on?
Speaker 6 (17:23):
Gonna do anything for me? Like he's already there.
Speaker 8 (17:26):
So I mean I don't, like I ain't saying like
I go for the ship, but it's just like I'm
not gonna let somebody else influence me and my thoughts
or like you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 6 (17:38):
It doesn't affect me. Like that's you, that's your life.
You deal with that.
Speaker 1 (17:40):
Interesting dealing with that, Okay, I mean we're all dealing
with I do feel like we're all affected, though it's just.
Speaker 6 (17:47):
Talking about them supporting it.
Speaker 7 (17:48):
It's just kind of like, yeah, I think there's a
has to be a thing, like we're probably the only
community that feel like we have leadership and celebrity. Like
these niggas ain't our Leader's not. Yeah, that's these niggas
are Like these niggas are tap dancers. For all intents
and purposes, they did are entertaining. If you gotta take
the bag from a man that you know is viem
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ly against your people, then you go against your people
for the money. But it's about money for these niggas. Yeah,
And like you said, he already in office. They probably
don't feel like they're doing that and wrong because at
the end of the day, they can deal with our
backglass online as long as they pockets Lone and he'll
they'll let him trot them out because that gives the
illusion that black people support Trump when they know the
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big consensus is that black people not fucking with it,
and the polls say the same thing. But you trot
some niggas out and then it looked like compliance across
the board.
Speaker 3 (18:38):
Now that's what they try to deem our leaders.
Speaker 1 (18:42):
But it's weird because okay, cool, Maybe celebrities shouldn't be
made our leaders, but I want to get into what
white people are making celebrities and now martyrs.
Speaker 2 (18:51):
And we saw Charlie Kirk, who was a thirty two
year old white man that was talking on the internet.
Speaker 1 (18:57):
Essentially, he was a podcast essential essentially, he was a
personality with opinions and he's now become a martyr. He's
now people speaking out against him have lost their jobs
this year. I think that was one of the wildest
moments of this year to visibly witness because there was
there was all I mean literally visibly. We had to
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see it on on film, but also just the aftermath
of it and what happened.
Speaker 5 (19:25):
Well, they tried to convince us that he wasn't who
he was, Like all the quotes that came out of
all the shit that he said that was offensive to
black people, gave people whoever else, they try to convince
us that, oh, you took it out of context, You
took it out of content. The context don't.
Speaker 3 (19:39):
Make it no better.
Speaker 5 (19:40):
If you go back and you watch a full Charlie
Kirk show, a full Charlie Kirk podcast, he's gonna say
all kind of wild shit and try to justify he's
just a racist, like there's no reason white supremacist, right.
Speaker 2 (19:51):
And and to make that a martyr is crazy in
the country.
Speaker 7 (19:54):
Your white SuperMac you gotta came out with another white
nigga like they didn't have nothing to do with us,
that's all business.
Speaker 2 (19:59):
Bro.
Speaker 3 (19:59):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (20:00):
I didn't know anything about this guy.
Speaker 8 (20:02):
And the reason why is because if he was talking
about supporting Trump and bashing black people and all that,
I don't really like. I don't really indulge in that
type of shit. The only time I saw him was
on the Jubilee Round.
Speaker 5 (20:15):
The day he died, I got text from a bunch
of people that was like, who the fuck is Charlie Kirk?
Speaker 3 (20:20):
Like that name didn't ring bells us.
Speaker 5 (20:24):
Yeah, I'm saying outside of the white conservative, you know,
Christian nationalist community, they were tapped in, but nobody most
of the other people. He wasn't a figure that you
would see. He wasn't a knot of racist white people.
Like I've paid attention because that's the type of shit
I paid. Yeah, and like I look at niggas that
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has opposing views, but also like I be.
Speaker 3 (20:48):
What the y'all on? I wanted to ask, I want
to see what these racist niggas is talking about.
Speaker 1 (20:53):
I wanted to ask you, do we have any black
voices as strong in our community as Charlie Kirk's?
Speaker 3 (21:00):
Was no, yes and no?
Speaker 7 (21:02):
Right, okay, yes in the sense of it's who we
deemed that to be and there's a multitude of black voices,
right yes, no, no, because he was supported by lobbyists.
So turning point in USA, they get money from Palanteer
that's Israel money. So like basically he getting backed by
people that want to push that narrative and propaganda.
Speaker 3 (21:23):
And they started that early. They started when he was eighteen. Yeah,
so so.
Speaker 7 (21:27):
And the thing is is like this is not the
most educated person is a community college dropper. But at
the same time it's a narrative culture ward that's what
they're trying to win. I think anybody want to understand
like Charlie Kirk and like what he represented and how
it affected politics, you should watch this video by every Signifire.
You watch that video by Eric ft signaf and about
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Charlie Kirk and a Coat of Maga, you'll understand everything
about it. It's a two hour video, but it really
do like give you all the insights you need because
also just.
Speaker 1 (21:58):
The way that though are our community then receives or
consumes information, because why do we like if I think
of the voices that are really loud in our community,
I also feel like so many people are against their thoughts.
So like you have the Candie Owans, do you have
the Doctor Umar's, which to me.
Speaker 2 (22:14):
Is we don't have.
Speaker 7 (22:19):
We create amplifies voices that we can put in a
certain boxes like doctor Umar. For all intents and purpose,
it's a whole tep Nigga candiice Os is a coon,
you feel me? These are things that were comfortable with
talking about radical thought for real, like you say, like
everywhere you go you can't stop seeing my face. It's
because like honestly from what people say to me, it's
like this is an actual free thought, radical thought, right,
(22:43):
But like for me, for me to be on a
Charlie Kirk type level, it would take like the back
end like funding and somebody the funnel money in right,
because it's bigger than.
Speaker 3 (22:54):
Just content and creating content.
Speaker 7 (22:56):
It's also about permeating or like being in certain spaces
like one hundred college campus is right if you are
if you have like a formulated debate mindset, and you
have your talking points setting stone you concrete and is
you got your counterpoints and everything like this is a
show for you and you going and talking to eighteen
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nineteen year olds that haven't even fully established their thoughts yet,
but their interest is being piqued by classes they're taking,
so they're very passionate about it, but they're not well
versed in like what their opinion is or how they
really feel about it. Of course he gonna eat them
alive and in debate, but these are also children. Anytime
you see him debate any adults and anybody with any
creditions whoo.
Speaker 3 (23:36):
They wiped the floor. He has the dumb look on
his face like he debated or had the third rowd gums.
Speaker 2 (23:42):
You ever seen that third gums is crazy?
Speaker 7 (23:45):
I haven't seen like the upper deck gums that niggas
have when they have little teeth.
Speaker 3 (23:49):
They go way over here that you can't trust people
that look like that.
Speaker 5 (23:53):
But to your point though, and like my good sister
Jamel Hill talks about this shit a lot and people
will always ask her this question and she's been talking
about this for years that for whatever reason, there is
this hesitancy to invest in black media. People will invest
a lot of things for the black consumption, for black demographics,
but black media is not one of them.
Speaker 3 (24:14):
Because they don't want us to tell our own stories.
Speaker 1 (24:16):
But not only that, let's be very clear, but when
we tell our own stories, like if we think about
maybe and maybe there's there's a lack of wanting to
hear from radical voices because if we again look at
the bigger voices within our space, we have the stephen A. Smith's,
which is crazy caricature. Again going back to Candice Owans
going to doctor Umar going to I mean, we we
platform for years, Charleston White like we have either.
Speaker 5 (24:38):
But that's the problem though, is that the Charlie Kirk
became a thing because a rich white man looked at him,
noticed something and said, hey, come here, I got something
for you.
Speaker 3 (24:48):
Gonna build it shuit up.
Speaker 8 (24:50):
It'll be that he got on because he doesn't like
black people and it's a lot of racist out here,
and they want to put it by him, like yeah,
your racist, tell the whole world that so are we.
Speaker 5 (25:04):
But that's the thing though, but a rich white man
had to empower him to give him some bread to
make it up. I guess my thing is by the day,
is that like even without you know, present company, non glazing,
Like all these niggas run around here, got money, Like
I don't know what your business situation is, But like,
why why wouldn't a nigga give Deontay Kyle one hundred
thousand dollars two hundred thousand dollars to help build his voice?
(25:25):
Why wouldn't somebody come and give Lenney two hundred three
hundred thousand dollars and build her voice up? If you
recognize these people have motion, you recognize these people are
expressing thoughts that the community is taken to. Why wouldn't
Tyler Perry, Why wouldn't Jay Z Why wouldn't I mean,
Will Packett is doing his part to some degree, But like,
why aren't some of these people who have this bread
(25:47):
and this opportunity wanting to invest in black media and
build those voices.
Speaker 7 (25:51):
Up because they benefit from the same politics that's against us.
There you go, they benefit from right wing politics. The
Republicans at the end today they may be quiet Republicans.
Speaker 3 (26:02):
That's quite that part.
Speaker 7 (26:04):
It's like it's like it's like quiet luxury, right, Like
you don't see the brand name, but a lot of money, right,
So it may they say maga, but yeah, but.
Speaker 5 (26:18):
It's one hundred percent maga cashmere on the back of
the side.
Speaker 7 (26:21):
Like the thing is is like if I'm rich, I
want the same tax benefits. I want the same X,
Y and Z. Also like, no matter how rich you are,
you still are in bed with like billionaire corporations.
Speaker 3 (26:33):
They don't. These niggas are the niggas that pay Charlie Kirks.
Speaker 7 (26:37):
If they pay a nigga like me, they could risk
their connections, they could risk their business. They can sabotaze
money and they never going to play what they play
and and.
Speaker 5 (26:46):
But and that's the problem, Like I feel out with
a homie during the first Trump campaign because not even
because to your point, like okay, if you're going to
First off, I thought he was kind of a coward
about it because he was one of them quiet magis
who was like, we're having conversations and he's like, you know,
you got to be careful to people who are gonna
vote for Trump.
Speaker 3 (27:05):
That's not gonna say they gonna vote for Trump. And
the whole time he talking about.
Speaker 2 (27:07):
Himselves, of course.
Speaker 5 (27:08):
But of course, but when it comes down to it
is like, bro, at a certain point, you have to
stop selling out for money, especially if you I understand
people in survival mode, and some people feel like I
gotta do what I gotta do.
Speaker 1 (27:22):
To I think, and I think that's the that's the
hard part. We are we've quietly been in a recession
for a few years now and this year. But that's
what I'm saying. A lot of a lot of people
are in survival mode. Everybody, which which does exactly what
it's supposed to do, which is what the government. It
brings us into the individualism that a lot of us
are like, it's kind of what we saw during when
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Kaepernick was taking a knee, there was football players that said, hey,
I got a family defeat. I know this is a
bigger picture here, but I ain't getting involved. And it's
kind of what we're seeing now. People really only care
about themselves. I mean, hey, I know I'm talking about
myself right now.
Speaker 2 (27:57):
I mean they were really like.
Speaker 6 (27:59):
That's everybody needs to be worried about themselves, but.
Speaker 1 (28:03):
They're not because I want to go into Also Super Bowl,
Kendrick Lamar performed. It's funny because Yonce was like, who
won that again, Kendrick. But what we saw was also
the announcement of Bad Bunny being named the Super Bowl
performer for twenty twenty six and baby that that was
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probably one of probably one of the most ignorant moments
and embarrassing moments of twenty twenty five as a country,
because people were not even realizing that Puerto Rico was
a part of the US of A.
Speaker 2 (28:37):
They was mad at the Espanols.
Speaker 6 (28:39):
Okay, but the thing is like, the well, as an Espanol,
I don't I don't get offended by that.
Speaker 2 (28:48):
Why did I not know you was? Where are you from?
Speaker 1 (28:51):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (28:51):
Okay, yeah, okay, Okay, look, she said, oh, I guess that.
Speaker 6 (29:00):
I didn't like get offended by it, Like I didn't
get offended.
Speaker 2 (29:03):
Okay, so then I did. I guess. I want to know, then,
your thoughts on during that moment of bad Bunny being announced,
What were your thoughts on just the outage driver?
Speaker 8 (29:16):
Where what I'm gonna be I'm talking about First of all,
I'm going to the game and I'm gonna be Puerto
Rican flagged out.
Speaker 2 (29:23):
She said, I'm pushing p So that was my first
initial thought.
Speaker 8 (29:27):
And then when I seen everybody talking about it, then
I'm like, motherfuckers are dumb because in the United States,
because they said, oh Ice is gonna be at the
game waiting for people to.
Speaker 3 (29:39):
To what send them back to a mayor.
Speaker 2 (29:42):
That you love it.
Speaker 6 (29:47):
One one more thing too, is because I mean, I
don't like the fact that Puerto Rico is now part
of the United States. I don't like that shit. I
don't like that. But I think that this is like
a big moment for Puerto Rico. So it's like I
was proud as well. But yegas.
Speaker 2 (30:08):
The ship Puerto Rican pitches, I know, no, wait a second, because.
Speaker 7 (30:16):
However, but niggas was sucking with the fact that Bad
Bunny got selected to niggas. Wasn't mad about you were
not mad, but we weren't mad. But my thing is
the point I was going and was mad.
Speaker 2 (30:29):
No, no, no, no. I liked it.
Speaker 1 (30:31):
I was like, I said, I gotta start learning. You know,
I'm so bad. I don't lived in the Bronx in Orlando.
There's no reason why. I don't know more Spanish. But
I'm here for for Bad Bunny doing the performance.
Speaker 2 (30:43):
They gonna be.
Speaker 7 (30:43):
I love ship like that though, because you just realized,
like how many people that support this nigga is idiots?
Speaker 2 (30:51):
No, they're they're idiots.
Speaker 3 (30:52):
It's literally like, can you even be upset with dumb people?
There's no point to me.
Speaker 1 (30:58):
What I found interesting is not only the allegiance to
Trump from just the idiot standpoint of it or or
the illiteracy of it all. I think it's interesting that
he led heavily with Christian values and we saw him
literally tell everyone, y'all, I don't even think I'm going
to heaven, y'all.
Speaker 2 (31:16):
Like there's been very little I kind of movement there.
Speaker 3 (31:21):
I love the like playing in a nigga face. You
know what I'm saying, he playing, and it's like they don't.
They're none the wise.
Speaker 5 (31:31):
From the very beginning, I always my analogy for Trump
was like the nigga in an alley and a long
trench coat that opening it up, got a trench coat
full of rolexes like come get you a watch, Come
get you a watch, I know you want something nice
for your wife, like, and people eat that ship up.
Speaker 7 (31:46):
I'm like, like, but that's I guess just a he's
a real New Yorker, like through and through, like the
real white like he's like a white.
Speaker 2 (31:53):
New Yorker, the white trash.
Speaker 3 (31:55):
Yeah York.
Speaker 7 (31:55):
You gotta think about this too, though, if you know
it's history, Every business that he's ever started on the
operator yeah fail. And so now the business of America
is on bankrupt And this is kind of like in
a line, this is what he do. He knows how
to ruin the business nigga, and the business of America
is in the shiitter.
Speaker 5 (32:15):
But America is so like they so on the dick
of capitalism that you don't even have to really have
the bread. You just have to fake like you got
the break. You have to present the image of I'm
rich I'm successful, I'm white.
Speaker 3 (32:29):
What else you need to know?
Speaker 7 (32:32):
And like that Danish y'all heard about that the Danish,
the nigga that was like acting like he was Danish royalty.
Oh bread, Yeah, and she didn't do no background check
or that they was like you ain't doing no background
check because he was white, because if you just said
he was Nigerian royalty, you would have been all through
the Google.
Speaker 2 (32:52):
I'm checking this. Sorry, Yeah, yeah, I'm saying not Jerry.
First of all, make your money.
Speaker 3 (32:59):
If you royalty, nigga, why are you emailing me? Right?
Speaker 2 (33:06):
That part? That part like niggas for this, Yeah, however,
I want to. I want to. I want to bring
in the I want to be bringing.
Speaker 1 (33:17):
The hypocrisy of it and lean it into pop culture
a little bit, because we did also see the support
from our community heavily and still for a billionaire for Diddy.
Speaker 2 (33:29):
Oh that's but that's just niggas being that's just what's
what's the difference.
Speaker 7 (33:34):
I don't think over women's support, but like niggas do
be on some like whole tap like trying to take
our black kings down that nigga ain't no king, Like
why not? Why is that the best that niggas not
a black king, that nigga is a rapist and a
sex trafficker and a fu nigga, and he'd be dancing
in niggas face.
Speaker 2 (33:53):
The dancing he liked, the playing people face in faces.
Speaker 6 (33:58):
Well, I don't, it's out all the way. But what
I think one of the things is is like.
Speaker 8 (34:04):
Sometimes like black people really don't give a fuck what
somebody else did to somebody else, like what you do
to me?
Speaker 6 (34:10):
Like I like your music, I fuck with you.
Speaker 3 (34:12):
I don't care what okay, what you did to nobody else,
what you did no else.
Speaker 8 (34:15):
A lot of people feel like that, like if it
don't affect them, it just don't affect them. I think
that that's fucked up. But that's just how certain people
look at shit.
Speaker 3 (34:23):
Well that's that individuality of a community. Shit.
Speaker 7 (34:26):
But I saw, like where your morals at, Bro, I'm
not supporting a nigga that's a sex trafficker, Bro.
Speaker 1 (34:32):
I think I think it's I think it's interesting though,
because for for years we've known him to do bad business, right,
I mean it's weird because not to put blame on
the generation before us, but it was interesting to see
all the things he did fucked up, Like I ain't
never know he killed nine people in that gym, like
when I saw that when I saw when I saw
the documentary. But it's the same thing, right, we knew
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that R. Kelly was out here pistol on bitches and
he still was able to have a career after Like
we've known so many things that are again, I guess
making making celebrities are leaders.
Speaker 2 (35:06):
We kind of just let them do it because what
we want to be them. We aspire to make the
they do.
Speaker 3 (35:11):
But that's big good, Like they're great songs, but they
ain't that good.
Speaker 2 (35:17):
I agree?
Speaker 3 (35:17):
Then, Yeah, I saw this Nigga Diddy. Every time some
people died, he came up.
Speaker 2 (35:21):
What were y'alls thoughts of the of the documentary?
Speaker 8 (35:24):
So I didn't get to watch the full documentary yet
because I gotta be in it. I want to be
locked in. But I'm I'm gonna be honest, Like what
he went down for we deserve. But I'd rather see
him go down for killing Pop.
Speaker 6 (35:37):
Goddammit.
Speaker 2 (35:38):
What now?
Speaker 1 (35:39):
My mama called me and was like to did he
really have something to do with pocking Biggie's mind?
Speaker 4 (35:43):
You?
Speaker 2 (35:44):
She white?
Speaker 1 (35:44):
She called me asking me about pocking Biggie's death having
something to do with did you I said, that is right,
don't do that.
Speaker 2 (35:51):
I was like, mom, time to hang up for me.
I'll be honest, I'll be honest my thought.
Speaker 1 (35:55):
Of it, and this, I don't know, y'all probably not
gonna like my thought because it was like, it was
very hard for me to have empathy for everybody there.
And it reminds me of the place that we're in
right now in twenty twenty five. It seemed like as
long as everybody got paid their money, they probably wouldn't
have had anything to say. And so for me, the
idea of becoming a victim only when you're done wrong again,
as long as someone gives you what you think you deserve,
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or you're old, you're okay with all the bullshit that
goes on around you. So you what I saw was
people turning a blind eye to him abusing Cassie. Allegedly
he shot someone in a room, and this nigga still
decided to work on the album.
Speaker 2 (36:30):
A lot of people saw the No. It was nuts.
Speaker 3 (36:34):
It was I thought I hit the gun shot and
saw it.
Speaker 2 (36:41):
I was like, bruh, no.
Speaker 1 (36:42):
And then the fact that he also said, I got drug,
woke up and my ass was sore, but I still
kept working on the album. But I only got upset
when my mother fucking checked it and clear, now you
got something to say.
Speaker 3 (36:54):
To me back door, blown out. I don't know to
stop stop you from.
Speaker 1 (37:02):
Not only that all of this is happening with you,
but you also are going to the strip club and
becoming a madam, a male madam to bring back bitch
to the house.
Speaker 5 (37:14):
They said that nigga put a hat on me to
let them know that I am the bitch getter bring
me the hole because I got the bad boy hat on.
Speaker 3 (37:23):
Let's go.
Speaker 7 (37:24):
The other thing is like, even even thirty minutes into
the documentary, they're saying the nigga had drugged the girl
raped the recorded it yep, playing the tap type.
Speaker 2 (37:39):
Party at parties, at parties, and first.
Speaker 3 (37:44):
Of all, if I walk into the party and it's
pouring a plan.
Speaker 2 (37:49):
Like what are you talking about? What are we talking about?
Speaker 3 (37:51):
Yes, niggas in here doing bro, why are we acting
like this isn't playing?
Speaker 1 (37:54):
But can I and I and I talked about the
idolization of criminals and games because allegedly this was something
that Alpo did.
Speaker 3 (38:02):
Yeah, and Alo and another thing, Appo is corny nigga
for that time.
Speaker 2 (38:06):
It's corny. It was bad.
Speaker 3 (38:08):
But I think that that let you get away with
anything when you got.
Speaker 1 (38:11):
Money or for a lot of for a lot of
those early days, he wasn't intern doing that, so he
just had He allowed people access to the best parties.
Speaker 2 (38:20):
He was a fucking party promoter.
Speaker 8 (38:22):
I think not only money, I think power. I think
a lot of times niggas get a lot of times
and it's gonna sound so fucking crazy, but a lot
of times niggas get scared when a nigga got power
and a nigga got money.
Speaker 6 (38:38):
That's number one. Number two.
Speaker 8 (38:40):
A lot of niggas will basically do whatever the fuck
if it if it's worth saving their family or I think.
Speaker 2 (38:48):
That's the thing. Everyone everyone has a price tag.
Speaker 1 (38:51):
And so it's unfortunate though that we now have to
toe with our human minds, the toe between having empathy
for a victim but also knowing that they were a
part of the problem. As long as they were being paid,
they were gonna be quiet, and so it's subspidtent.
Speaker 7 (39:05):
Money got blood on them, bro. But all of it
like he I'm gonna tell you something about that nigga.
That nigga had a keno for a bitch ass nigga.
Speaker 3 (39:12):
Yeah, you knew a spot.
Speaker 1 (39:13):
Yeah yeah.
Speaker 2 (39:14):
And I'm telling you everybody around him.
Speaker 3 (39:15):
Was that that nigga played with me like that, It
would have been I would have been in prison.
Speaker 2 (39:19):
Still, let's be honest. Even the guy that had the
five percent a bad boy.
Speaker 3 (39:25):
Look you gotta do it, show me, show me.
Speaker 7 (39:29):
You gave me twenty five percent of the company up front. Yeah,
and once the company is hell is successful and want
to back five percent is definitely in the millions. Now
you're like, oh, I need the twenty five back because
I got something to do.
Speaker 2 (39:41):
And let's say this though, I.
Speaker 8 (39:45):
I've been in certain situations to where it's like I
had to make a decision based off of me being scared, right, Sure, Like, now,
do I want.
Speaker 6 (39:54):
Empathy from a motherfucker?
Speaker 8 (39:56):
No, But at the same time, I do feel like
the person manipulating me scared me into making the decision because.
Speaker 2 (40:06):
I was fearful.
Speaker 5 (40:07):
No, intimidation is a real thing, and it happens to
a lot of people in various type of circumstances.
Speaker 3 (40:11):
But to be clear about that twenty five percent.
Speaker 5 (40:14):
Not only did he give the nigga the twenty five
percent up front, the reason he did it is because
he didn't want.
Speaker 2 (40:19):
To He didn't want to pay out.
Speaker 5 (40:20):
Yeah, he was from college. So the whole thing was
slimed from the very very beginning.
Speaker 3 (40:24):
That nigga's a slimb. It was sliming from the top.
Speaker 5 (40:27):
So it's like, but you gotta have bring money in
a bag a bat in the office, Like, that's not
gonna get it done.
Speaker 3 (40:32):
It was.
Speaker 2 (40:33):
It was a It was a good watch. But I
slapped out that.
Speaker 1 (40:36):
Nigga and we been rumbling in that office even even
as he was working and they were moving up the ladder.
The fact that he said he walked into the office
and did he was getting head by somebody and just
pretty much wanted him.
Speaker 2 (40:47):
To see that. Like, to me, there was just so
many ways bro a lot, but to me, the fact
that but the fact that people were.
Speaker 1 (40:55):
Getting their checks, they turned a blind eye, and so
it was really hard for me to watch and see
him be like, oh, so as long as you kept
getting this money, you probably wouldn't be in this dock right.
Speaker 6 (41:05):
Now, Okay, So let me ask you this. So say
somebody did step out and say something and nothing happened.
Speaker 2 (41:11):
Damn, What what do you mean by that?
Speaker 6 (41:13):
I mean like they stand up and be like Yo,
like this nigga's weird.
Speaker 2 (41:17):
You leave, you get another job.
Speaker 1 (41:18):
To me, if you really have an issue morally with
everything that's going on around you, mind you to me,
if you see a bitch getting raped, you see people
getting drug you're going to get people and bring people
to You're just you're an accomplice of this. Well, so
to me, when when shit hits the fan and Diddy's
like you're fired on some Trump shit, you're fired then,
and now you want to have tears, I don't what.
Speaker 6 (41:39):
Is that person's like.
Speaker 8 (41:40):
You're saying, like the person sees some bullishit, Oh you
walk in on him getting here.
Speaker 3 (41:44):
You're saying like there's no consequence to me.
Speaker 2 (41:47):
To me, if there's, if there's a price for you
to be a bad person, I'm sorry.
Speaker 1 (41:52):
I don't have empathy when that when that person decides
to stop paying you and now you're the victim. No,
you partook it a lot of those things. And I
think again, that's what we're seeing everything else, that's what
we're seeing right now in twenty twenty five. I think
that there is a lot of people in this like
right now where we're at, where again people are outfitting
for themselves. There's a lot of questionable ways in which
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people are showing up for a dollar, for a dime
or a look for some power, for a promotion that
it's like, bro, when shit don't go your way, you
don't get to come here and cry wolf and be
the victim.
Speaker 7 (42:23):
But it's the same thing white people do with Trump.
It's like, okay, as long as he's victimizing everybody else,
it's cool.
Speaker 3 (42:28):
But hold on what you mean?
Speaker 2 (42:29):
Hold on what do you mean? It's affecting me now.
Speaker 3 (42:31):
But that's Trump people.
Speaker 5 (42:33):
The people that love Trump that are magga down today,
dirty draws, they're not maga because of what Trump is
gonna do for them. They're maga because what Trump is
gonna do to somebody else. That's that's the whole thing.
They're not there for, like help me make this cheaper,
help me make this more affordable, help me.
Speaker 3 (42:50):
With my health care.
Speaker 5 (42:51):
That's not the whole point that he said we're gonna
kick out these Mexicans.
Speaker 3 (42:56):
Yeah, fuck them up. Yeah, But like, hen run your farm,
dumb man right right, eating lost the farm, But they don't.
They don't care.
Speaker 2 (43:03):
I'll be honest and not not even trying to make
this I take.
Speaker 1 (43:06):
I think it's interesting with I friends have a lot
of people that I know, we talk about farms. Who's
gonna clean your house? Who gonna do these jobs? There's
a lot of Americans right now with no jobs that
will not do those jobs. And I'm confused as to
where we've gotten to the place where we want the money,
we need the money. Rent's not going down, even the
fact that two parents to two adult households ain't really
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making way. But yet there's still certain jobs that people
aren't willing to do.
Speaker 3 (43:32):
Or well that's the other historically.
Speaker 2 (43:35):
Because of the stereotype that we have a job.
Speaker 7 (43:39):
So so they're okay with They're okay with prisoners doing
the job. They're okay with immigrants doing the job because
it's slave labor to them. We're going to farm any
type of agriculture where you got to like sweater your
brow if you're not doing it with a machine, that's
slave labor.
Speaker 3 (43:53):
But that's what it has been here.
Speaker 5 (43:55):
And the crazy part about it is they've tricked, They've
they've devalued the idea of work ethic while also have
to work.
Speaker 3 (44:04):
I'm the health yeah, right, right, and what has that been?
That's that's that that you're the lowest of the low.
Speaker 7 (44:11):
So some people care about like people care more about
how they look than getting money, right, And that's a
it's a fund up, but it's a byproduct of this
whole ship. And it's also a byproduct of us not
being honest about the history of this country.
Speaker 3 (44:26):
And trying to like cover it up.
Speaker 1 (44:27):
But that's and that's the hard part about where we're going.
That's being removed from from history, from history as we speak,
as we're literally existing. So I don't know, it's interesting
because we do have about again three more years.
Speaker 2 (44:41):
Unfortunately, it's not necessarily true.
Speaker 3 (44:43):
Look, I mean, I'm saying, niggas check out every day.
Speaker 7 (44:47):
Yeah, niggas noting like and I'm telling you that the
ship not looking good like the you can see because
the thing is is like, think about how demanding that
job is, right, Yeah, it's very taxing on the mind
because you got to have so many tabs up and
all the game. If you're already old and you already
like a cognitive decline that's gonna exacerbate that. That's what
(45:11):
happened to Joe Biden, Like it's just too stressful, that
shit eat your brain. And what's happening to the American
people is that we've talked about the man. Everybody is
out here, finish for that. We're just trying to make
it to the next day. Pay your bills.
Speaker 5 (45:23):
And they just did a poll recently of people under
thirty years old, and twenty eight percent of the respondents
replied that they believe the political violence is okay in
the right situation. Oh, and that's where we are in America,
is that people like, at a certain point, you can
take you can take, you can take, you can strip
people of all this shit.
Speaker 3 (45:41):
At some point you're talking about earlier the.
Speaker 5 (45:43):
Pendulum, the pendulum swings back the other way, and sometimes
it's gonna swing back in a way that you're not
really ready for.
Speaker 1 (45:48):
I think it's interesting because I don't know how many
people have gotten to travel abroad this year. But I
remember I was living in Singapore in twenty sixteen, well
twenty fifteen, twenty sixteen, so when he was running for president,
before he even got elected, and the rest of the
world is laughing at us. The rest of the world
thinks that this is this place is a fucking joke. Now,
(46:08):
I do want to talk about it because we've talked politically,
but we are I also believe in what we're witnessing
this year more than ever is the fact that we
are amidst a technological revolution.
Speaker 2 (46:20):
So I want to talk about AI.
Speaker 1 (46:21):
Well, I want to talk about to me, That's what
the conversation has leaned heavily into because we've seen the
decline an end of so many jobs, jobs that came
about from the pandemic, but jobs that have also now
been taken away because of technology advancements. We see AI
coming about. I mean, I said probably every episode and
y'all can make fun of me. Chatchypt is my husband.
I know Deonta is not here for that.
Speaker 3 (46:44):
Chatgy. You could be your husband, but you're gonna end up.
Speaker 5 (46:46):
You're gonna end up on a Lifetime movie because your
husband want to kill you, me everybody else you.
Speaker 2 (46:52):
Think AI will kill us? By the way, shout out
to super Pretty say kid, go.
Speaker 6 (46:56):
Too far and get like that little fucking robot. She Oh,
I put my let's just say.
Speaker 2 (47:03):
I'm getting anything.
Speaker 8 (47:05):
Anything that the motherfuckers want to do to us, they
can do it right now. Don't think just this AI.
Speaker 7 (47:10):
Well, that's not my issue with AI. My issue with
what is yours? Okay, consumes not it does in a way.
In a way, I think any tool, if used properly,
is beneficial, right, sure, but I think if it comes
at the cost of our drinking water, I'm not with
the Yeah, it's a rap at the cost of our
drinking water. Like that's the main resource that it uses
(47:32):
is our drinking water, the pure water. These data centers
setting up data centers around big bodies of fresh water,
billions full of the computer, billions of gallons of water
because these computers run all day long.
Speaker 3 (47:44):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (47:45):
Yeah, that is the dumbest ship because.
Speaker 5 (47:48):
Why because the computers, it's computers, these data centers.
Speaker 3 (47:52):
They have to cool it.
Speaker 6 (47:54):
Okay, so what is the So now we're going to
be drinking AI water.
Speaker 1 (47:58):
No, the water gonna be water, nothing happen, Well, anybody,
we're gonna be out here drinking nasty as.
Speaker 3 (48:05):
There is no plan. Plan is to make money. Yeah,
that's it. That's as they as.
Speaker 7 (48:13):
They use more energy, they use more drinking water. And
and for whatever reason, the computers can't like there's no
other soluble water, Like it can't use salt water because
that would destroy the structure of the computer. So it
needs the same water that we drink. Is the water
it needs the coolest computers. And the more we run
out of water, the more of an impact it has
(48:34):
on the environment. The higher your light bill is gonna get,
the higher energy's gonna get, the higher, Yes, data centers,
we we are playing water everything. We're paying everyst we
paid the costs for other people. We lose resources, and
we spend the money to provide the loss of our resources.
Speaker 5 (48:56):
Right because those those same companies that build those data
centers are only in those places because they're getting a
kickback from the local government.
Speaker 3 (49:04):
To be there.
Speaker 2 (49:05):
I do, I do feel like there will be a
solution for this. There there will be a solution.
Speaker 3 (49:09):
I don't.
Speaker 1 (49:10):
I mean the same way if we think about what
the autobil industry with the exhaust now we have you know, hybrid.
Speaker 7 (49:16):
Cars and so all these things are understood, we should
be on solar power universally. But yeah, is that people
in these big oil, big oil, big gas operate like carsail.
Speaker 3 (49:29):
You gotta understand, like you want to know who really.
Speaker 7 (49:31):
Operate like a cartel, trum plastic people that are in plastic,
people that are in water, like NESTLEI, they operate like cartels.
So the thing is is like the nigga from Nestlie said,
water isn't a human right. Water isn't a human right?
Speaker 3 (49:45):
And they sell water? But how is it not a
human right? And it's literally a part of our human function.
Speaker 1 (49:50):
Well, and that's the thing I think too, when we
take and on a global scale, it's why it's why
we have Trump that's still trying to play nice with
so many countries because we're needed so many natural resources
from other countries that we don't.
Speaker 2 (50:03):
Create here here.
Speaker 3 (50:05):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (50:05):
Yeah, by the way, y'all, this is where it gets
a little rowdy. That's where it's I mean, if we
have well, we're gonna get into music and movies and
all the things in our next episode. But I do
want to round out with final.
Speaker 7 (50:18):
Thoughts on kind of chat GPT Nigga, all the AI,
all the AI, any of that ship niggagas.
Speaker 1 (50:27):
Actually plan to put it. So I planned to actually AI.
So what I'm gonna put a strap on my knee.
I'm getting the robot. I'm sorry, y'all.
Speaker 2 (50:37):
I am here for the advancements happening. I know it's
it's possible. People are ruining the country, like people are
ruining the world, and now like.
Speaker 3 (50:46):
Hey, you don't have to make so here here we go.
I mean you heard it.
Speaker 5 (50:50):
Here first is gonna mortgage our drinking No, she's trying
to get a nut. Okay, you're gonna have dirty water.
Speaker 2 (50:56):
That's crazy that it's not.
Speaker 7 (51:00):
Suppear that ai Mandy only fans that I did not
say that that free for the first ninety days. It's
gonna be only I'm gonna be managing this ship. What
you give it, gonna bring it, We're gonna bring. We're
gonna have ne or gang bangs. I'm gonna put a
VR headset on her. It's gonna be live.
Speaker 6 (51:20):
Now.
Speaker 7 (51:20):
I think all the drinking water that's gonna be wasted
and commission of this, we're gonna be rich as ship though,
so so it's all good.
Speaker 3 (51:27):
We'll get our own water reserve, you know what I'm saying.
We will be good. Well, we'll own water, you know
what I'm saying. And Mandy will be getting slooded out
by robots.
Speaker 2 (51:35):
Oh my god, it's shut up. I think I think
for me it's and I mean, maybe.
Speaker 3 (51:40):
He's a woman of the future. Clearly can we can
we die?
Speaker 1 (51:46):
But also I mean I think I think it's difficult
again when we sit here and talk about all of
the problems we're facing.
Speaker 2 (51:53):
I don't know, a part of me just feels like it's.
Speaker 3 (51:56):
It's bleak out here. It's yeah, it gets a little noo. Yeah,
it's bleak out here.
Speaker 7 (52:02):
At some point, it's like it does get to a
level where it's like even with me, where I'm just like.
Speaker 3 (52:08):
Why do I why? Why? But then but then after
you calm down, he's like, Okay, you should.
Speaker 1 (52:14):
I mean, there's but the reasons that care about I
just well, dang, I just can't care about Like it's
hard to care about everything. Yeah, And I think that
that's what this year has done for me more than anything,
Like I have to pick and choose, like and it's
like there's just so much. I mean, clearly, there's women's rights,
there's there's Black Lives matter, there's our fucking what's what's
(52:39):
the word with everything happening right now? Climate control, there's
the growth of technology, there's.
Speaker 2 (52:46):
People needing to eat like.
Speaker 1 (52:48):
It's not like even even when it came to like
snap benefits being like it's it wasn't just of course
our black community, like they try to make believe with
all that bullshit, it's older.
Speaker 2 (52:59):
It's the AI is enforcing very.
Speaker 3 (53:02):
Bad well, the creators and the people who operated our race.
Speaker 2 (53:06):
There you go. I will say for me AI being
a fucking loser like that.
Speaker 7 (53:10):
No, it was. I didn't having one of the most
technologically advanced supercomputers like I'm going to make black people
look bad with this. Yeah, niggas are fucking losing literally,
and I hope that robot turn around and kill you.
Speaker 3 (53:22):
Niggas did billions of dollars of research and development just
so they can call you nigger. Yeah in binary code
that you just said that you don't need that.
Speaker 8 (53:32):
I didn't get to say like twenty twenty five for me,
but twenty twenty five made me like realize, Number one,
mother fuckers need to work for themselves. You can figure
it out and get church fucking bri it church.
Speaker 2 (53:46):
Like I think that is.
Speaker 1 (53:47):
I think that's an easy statement to make. I will say,
I think majority of people are workers.
Speaker 6 (53:53):
No, no, no, no, like that, but you're not.
Speaker 8 (53:56):
But you can't what I'm saying though, you're not hearing
what I'm saying, like whatever it is because they can't,
people are losing their jobs.
Speaker 2 (54:04):
I get that.
Speaker 8 (54:05):
I know what you're saying, but you gotta figure What
I'm saying is it's too many ways out here to
make money.
Speaker 2 (54:11):
Sounds good, that's another thing that sounds good.
Speaker 8 (54:13):
No, it is, but but other ways you figure out
how to make money, and you got to figure it that.
I'm not saying that everybody needs to do that, but
I feel like that would be your best bet.
Speaker 1 (54:27):
But if people could, they would A lot of people,
let's be clear, Like, but between the fact that I
don't know, I was takes too much work, but it's
not even But that's where the.
Speaker 5 (54:35):
Sam that's where the easy route comes in. That's where
the cutting corners comes in because people are doing that
but they're not.
Speaker 2 (54:40):
But also that's what they're doing. They're making it harder
to do that.
Speaker 3 (54:44):
Yeah, hard to do that.
Speaker 1 (54:46):
So to me, the idea that just go out there
and make money, start your own business, like I think
that's probably the worst thing.
Speaker 2 (54:52):
That just be telling people to start your own business.
But get your own money. Go get money however you can.
Speaker 3 (54:57):
That'sogy.
Speaker 2 (54:58):
If people could, If people could what I think.
Speaker 1 (55:01):
I think the fact too that in terms of when
we go into what's being taken away from us, when
we talk about the budgets and the Department of Education,
when we talk about the budgets in the medical field,
when we talk about like healthcare not being affordable for
so many people, you also are the place where people
are are not reaching above sixth grade reading levels. So
when we talk about when they become adults, we're talking
about illiteracy rates rising. We're talking about the fact that
(55:23):
people are being misinformed. To me, even AI has done
heavily that this year. The fact that I have to
go under the comments or make sure AI is working
to tell me that it's AI. Like in terms of
how we're all even gathering information, we're gathering it from
our phones. We're not even watching the news anymore. We're
going to the blogs. And so unfortunately that's how we work.
Speaker 5 (55:44):
The blog the blogs, like the hand what was that?
That was like the Leonardo DiCaprio like, oh this nigga
is like god, damn.
Speaker 2 (55:52):
You are you listen? You blog?
Speaker 1 (55:55):
Era job okay, And so I think the way that
we even consume the information and how we're having to
fact check what we're consuming a lot of people don't.
Speaker 2 (56:03):
They see it and they go with it. Facebook is
is that's all of it.
Speaker 7 (56:07):
I think that there's a lot of people in this
country and everybody is going to have the thing that
matters to them, and that's like you advocate.
Speaker 3 (56:14):
And work your spot, work the spot that you just
care about.
Speaker 7 (56:17):
And because one person caring about everything, being informed versus
being an advocate is two different things.
Speaker 3 (56:23):
I'm informed of a lot of things. I advocate for
certain things, right, you know what I mean.
Speaker 7 (56:27):
So I think even to your point, what you're advocating
for is like some form of independence outside.
Speaker 3 (56:33):
Of corporate.
Speaker 7 (56:35):
See what it is like the more people that lose jobs,
the more jobs that AI take, and the tougher the
administration get what's classified.
Speaker 6 (56:44):
Don't want to They don't want you to make no money.
Speaker 3 (56:46):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, because because what they're trying to.
Speaker 7 (56:49):
Bring, like the thing about AI and what is going
to eventually happen, is that you're gonna have a bunch
of niggas working for data centers and company towns driving
cars on by the data center, living in housing.
Speaker 3 (57:00):
Big brothers right back to the rail yard. Sorry to
bother you, that's what it's gonna turn into. It's sorry
to bother.
Speaker 7 (57:07):
The thing is is that I understand exactly what both
of y'all are saying, because it's not easy to find
out how to make your own money. But there needs
to be some urgency towards figuring out what your spot
is and how you can work your spot and figure
out some shorter stream of income where you're not solely
dependent on a company for your income because they're never
(57:28):
going to give you enough, so you have to figure
out something for yourself. Also, I understand where you're at
where it's like, Look, entrepreneurship ain't easy. Also, finding a
way to make money that's actually substantial, it ain't easy.
Speaker 1 (57:39):
And then when you do figure it out, right, like,
we have so many people that monetize off TikTok and YouTube.
Speaker 2 (57:45):
Guess what they do.
Speaker 1 (57:46):
They push the goal post and now exactly and now that,
and now these companies are like, oh no, we're going
to push the goal post. You need more views, you
need more Actually, now you have to pay us to
even push your content. So you have to pay for ads.
We're gonna lower the CPM purview. Like so it sounds good,
but in hindsight, these corporations that we're still expecting they're
(58:08):
gonna find away and be a worker. Back to why
I said nigga podcasting, we went from being able to
have one podcast a week now niggas gotta drop three four.
Speaker 2 (58:16):
Well have Patreon do live show.
Speaker 6 (58:19):
About the stuff that like that is needed and people
don't have.
Speaker 8 (58:22):
But it goes back to what you said, people don't
want to do the slave work, but shit, we need
somebody on that motherfucker farm and motherfuckers is needed.
Speaker 7 (58:29):
This is why I advocate. That's why I say I
advocate for certain things. I advocate for trades. If you
gotta skill trade, nigga can't take that away from you.
I agree, right, And the thing he is is like
we live in a certain era now where to your point,
like being a farm hand, it really ain't going to
be ashamed of it. It is actually assigned of independence.
But the stigma of it being such a large class job.
(58:51):
What's so is a trash man, But the trash man
make more than the teacher.
Speaker 5 (58:56):
So that's the pro niggas have to decide at some
point do you want to be stable? Do you want
to be sexy?
Speaker 2 (59:00):
And I think that's want to want.
Speaker 3 (59:02):
To want to be a sexy trash man. My nigga
be the sexy. Yeah you can, you could, you could.
Speaker 5 (59:08):
I don't know what the I ain't gonna with the
protocol is, but I bet you could be a trash
man and be a viral content creator.
Speaker 2 (59:14):
You can't them arms and I know them arms are strong.
You're picking up them bad. You're picking up them bad.
Let me see your arms go to work.
Speaker 5 (59:22):
You could be on Live hanging off the side of
the truck and hell yeah, throwing that bad figuring out,
fregguring out whatever it is. But I mean, but ultimately,
like a fan over here, get dirty, brother, I love
a fan in the unif get dirty.
Speaker 7 (59:36):
Get dirty way you look subscribe But GPC only fans
Mandy And what's the nigga name theo Andy Neo. It's
gonna be me in there with the br hand set.
Speaker 3 (59:50):
And like his names and Neo is already.
Speaker 7 (59:53):
Like said, these niggas aren't low that the apple has
a a bite taken out of it on your Mac.
For a reason, these niggas ain't load, So what where
are you niggas?
Speaker 2 (01:00:06):
Name that?
Speaker 3 (01:00:07):
That was some real third eye ship the nigga name
sign I drop a who is a neo right now?
Who got a coop?
Speaker 2 (01:00:13):
The lead of the matrix. These niggas ain't These niggas
ain't load sign that. What's the bite of the apple?
Speaker 3 (01:00:18):
The bite of the apple?
Speaker 7 (01:00:20):
It was a big industrial technological revolution. Garden of eating,
you know what, spread of information. That's the whole about
the Garden of eating.
Speaker 3 (01:00:28):
But I do want to play your point though, is
that you know what I'm saying. I don't want to
go to I literally am one of those niggas.
Speaker 2 (01:00:36):
I hate j I saw that and put a coofye
on his head. Please yeah, I want.
Speaker 3 (01:00:43):
Because who was King's nigga?
Speaker 2 (01:00:44):
Remember that?
Speaker 5 (01:00:45):
But to your point, though, I get this for a
lot of people, it is overwhelming to see so much
shit going on and feeling like you have to care
about everything, investing everything.
Speaker 3 (01:00:53):
But it's like everybody has a part to play.
Speaker 5 (01:00:56):
Yeah, And so I wouldn't just want to encourage people
to even if you are feeling overwhelmed, like don't feel
like you have it's not on you to.
Speaker 3 (01:01:03):
Solve every single ill.
Speaker 5 (01:01:06):
It's just about you to do your part that you
can that you know that you can do to contribute
to the better, be that positive.
Speaker 2 (01:01:13):
I get it.
Speaker 8 (01:01:14):
We all need to come together. We do, that's but
y'all not understanding that. Like there's a lot of people
out there that got their own ship going on. People
are dying, and it makes.
Speaker 3 (01:01:24):
It hard to come together when you're trying to survive yourself.
Speaker 2 (01:01:28):
And that's what we're at.
Speaker 8 (01:01:29):
So it's like when we when us as people we
over here dealing with this over there. It takes a
lot of energy, not including like the emotional the physical,
Like you got you gotta go through a lot of ship.
People got kids, people got marriages, people got sick parents.
Speaker 7 (01:01:45):
That people live heavy enough, yes, Like, and we're supposed
to use entertainment as escapism and they turn it into
like trauma trauma nigga, Like I hate this.
Speaker 6 (01:01:56):
That's watched that ship. That's because I got other ship
and kid been.
Speaker 7 (01:02:00):
Real, bro, Like, when you got problems with niggas and
niggas is trying, you can put the phone down and
get busy with niggas. Stop recording that ship. Yeah, you
know what I'm saying stop recording. You don't got to
punch the racist out on camera. They gonna know what happened.
Speaker 2 (01:02:13):
Mm hmmm.
Speaker 3 (01:02:13):
And also like in fighting with niggas online, stop doing that,
all right?
Speaker 2 (01:02:18):
Stop doing it?
Speaker 3 (01:02:19):
Stop doing that, bro.
Speaker 2 (01:02:20):
Yeah, I don't nobody.
Speaker 3 (01:02:22):
Line DM drop the load, get it shaken.
Speaker 2 (01:02:25):
I know that's right. Do I'll say to that who're
doing it? I mean I don't. I don't know er
stand where I'm not. You know, we can have opinions.
Speaker 1 (01:02:35):
Anyways, guys, this is part one. Make sure you tune
in Friday Part two. We're lightning the mood, y'all.
Speaker 2 (01:02:41):
We are talking. This was deep, this was deep ocurreda.
We're gonna be more woke with you think movies, film, television.
Speaker 7 (01:02:50):
That's what I'm gonna break down, the unseen scenes and
crazy unspoken decisions.
Speaker 2 (01:03:01):
Y'all, y'all, make sure y'all tune in Friday Part two.
Speaker 3 (01:03:04):
I said, it's not like the our spinoff.
Speaker 2 (01:03:07):
It's gonna be Jojo Jo Diata and myself.
Speaker 1 (01:03:10):
We are talking all things twenty twenty five music, television, film,
and I guess we're gonna make y'all think.
Speaker 2 (01:03:15):
Y'all, y'all really some thinkers in here. Goddamn, this is deep.
Speaker 3 (01:03:19):
Now, were gonna have fun.
Speaker 1 (01:03:19):
Okay, let's have fun. We got the sequilla going out,
so y'all can stay tuned. If you want to see
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