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August 24, 2025 25 mins
We got to sit down with ABC News chief national correspondent Matt Gutman, who is the host of the ABC News true crime podcast "Devil In The Desert." Matt talks about what drew him to cover this case after following it for over a decade as well as some behind-the-scenes details of making such a fascinating show.

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