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July 12, 2025 40 mins

On our third installment of Summer Playlist 2025, we welcome Jeff Currie back into the SmarterMarkets™ studio. Jeff is Chief Strategy Officer of Energy Pathways at Carlyle. David Greely sits down with Jeff to discuss the implications of the breakdown of the world order that has defined the post-World War II era – implications Jeff lays out in his new paper, The New Martial Plan, the sequel to The New Joule Order. Together, they discuss how the quest for security is becoming the paramount force reshaping geopolitics, energy, and investment.

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