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August 4, 2025 75 mins

Welcome back to another episode of Stay True Podcast! This week, Madi sits down with bestselling author, speaker, Bible teacher, and podcast host Lisa Harper to talk about some of the most misunderstood—and often unspoken—realities of the Christian walk: church hurt, spiritual manipulation, and how to hear God’s true voice in the middle of noise, confusion, and pain. In this episode, Madi and Lisa unpack how to discern the difference between God’s leading and the enemy’s lies, how to identify unhealthy patterns in ourselves and others, and how to move from a mindset rooted in self-protection to a posture of surrender and trust in God. This is an invitation to heal, to grow, and to listen again—to the only voice that matters.

As always, make sure to stay you and stay true! 

Questions/topics discussed and answered:
-How to tell the difference between conviction and manipulation
-What spiritual manipulation can look like even from trusted leaders
-What would you say to someone who is deeply wounded from church hurt?
-Rebuilding your trust in God after church hurt
-What wise, Spirit-led community actually looks like—and how to find it

Helpful Resources:
Dare To Be True: Defeat The Lies That Bind You and Live Out The Truth That Frees You by Madison Prewett Troutt: https://a.co/d/gdfpHX5

Stay True Website: https://www.staytruepodcast.com

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