332. Very Pleasing Physique with Glenn Wilkinson

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Episode Transcript

(00:00):
This is you dressing down. I love that.
Like I didn't know what to expect.
I'll be honest, like I've never,I kind of like clothes and
stuff, but I've never had the thought in the five years of
doing this podcast of being excited for what a guest is
going to wear. And today is the day.
Well, I said to my daughters, I said, Grace Ruby, what do you
think I should wear going on? Because with my daughters, when

(00:20):
I said, you know, I'm going on she and Todd's podcast and they
they just didn't believe me, He says, daddy, no way that they
were like run about the place that says what you need to tone
it down. Right, right, right.
I can't. This, this is no, yeah, I, I
still remember coming across your videos on I think it was
TikTok and it wasn't actually the, the kind of fitness and

(00:45):
strength content. It was, it was the, the Sunday
vibes. It was going to church on a
Sunday and I was I, I just got hooked.
I was like, and it's so weird again, I was like, I need to
know what this guy who I've never met before is going to be
wearing the church in Ballymena next Sunday.
Like it's just. You see, the thing about it is
nobody has the kahunas that theywere the stuff, and so it's all

(01:06):
second hand. But I don't.
Yeah, that's part of a family. Here.
Because. I love a pair of flowers.
Yeah. You know why not?
But you said no one has, you know, the maybe the stones to
work. I think people furthermore don't
have the connections to get thisstuff because if I wanted to
dress like that, where do you, where do you get it?
So there's a wee place in Belfast on Bridge St and I get a

(01:28):
lot of my stuff, second hand stuff and something vintage for
come in at every, every other Saturday.
I've forgotten the name. That's that's an old thing, but
you go in and also we were in, we were doing a wee bit of
connections in the States and I'm, I'm not being big time
fancy pants here or anything butthere.
You know, but I mean by the way,you literally are fancy pants.

(01:50):
Like you weren't. First fanciest pants I've ever
seen in this studio. Well, I do have a a cerise pink
pear as well, but I thought, anyway, that's another story.
And so in on Muscle Beach, there's this vintage shop and I
just walked into it. She and I thought, Oh my
goodness, this is stunk. Like I was stinking.

(02:10):
Yeah, but you know, a few dry cleaners later and it was, you
know what? But you get one chance in this
like and I don't do it for effect.
No, no, no. I.
Just feel, I feel, you know, I feel good in it, yeah.
And did you like how does that go down at that?
Present fee? That's another story.
It better be flowers. No, it's not flowers, it's just

(02:31):
a wee tank top. I like my wee tank tops.
Do you want it now I. Want it now and I'll put it on
now, I'll tell you that. This this is.
Hold on. No this.
Is my favourite. Is this your actual one?
Why? This is from a Sunday vibe.
This is my favourite Sunday vibethat I've done in Ballymena and
in a church in LA. You have to be this.

(02:54):
I'll be offended if you don't take this now.
But if it's so much responsibility, it's like, it's
like in, it's like the end of Karate Kid, you know?
Like I feel like I've been waiting for a moment.
Quite tight but listen, I I was checking you out.
Total. Yeah, yeah.
Heterosexual man when I did Gillian for 22 years yeah.
And I walked up the stairs and when I saw you the first time I

(03:16):
said he's much better you're better.
You're better looking in life than you are on screen, so kudos
the. I think the only thing that's
been missing from my life is this.
Up here kind of respect. That you were.
I mean, silly question. Do you wear this with a T-shirt
under it? No, no, no.

(03:36):
Just bear. Here he goes.
Here you're tight. My goodness, you're tight.
Because because here's the thingthat's that's not a lot of body
fat. There, I'm telling you that.
People don't expect this. That's that's probably 9%
because you've got visible ABS. When you can see your ABS,
you're you're. Genuinely my favourite episode

(03:58):
of the podcast were ever done. What were you saying about the
Visible? ABS so 10%, maybe 1011% you
won't see your abs. You've got nice look at your
lats. I could help you and how you
sort of carry yourself. But you know, there's a few wee
wee tricks that you can do. Hey, no, that looks well.

(04:19):
That looks well, but I've got more.
I've got more. By the way, I feel like this
might be one step at a time. You don't.
You don't want my next gift? OK.
OK. Go ahead, go ahead.
OK, to bring this down with me, right.
So I was thinking and so I love,I love my style and I love
machines, right? So I thought these might work

(04:43):
for you by. The way it's very kind of you
think. Yes, you're very welcome.
I think it's it. Didn't work with.
The yes to team up with it with the the tank.
Let me see. Hey, they are smart.
Hey, that they are what? What do you think?
The the only the only thing I can think in this outfit is it

(05:04):
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episode. If I was the improved, not that
I'm fashion Easter or anything, but would you maybe length would
you think about growing the like?
Glenn, are you just trying to make more versions of you?
Now here's the thing. I have actually started growing

(07:16):
my hair out. That is something I'm doing and
I think subconsciously you see it might be coming from you.
See, I love to hear that as. These I honestly for I was I'm
just back from holiday and I wasrunning when I was on holiday
and I thought these are the kindof glasses I need.
Well, very kindly, I'm not doingany sponsored ads or anything,
but this accompanying in the states I seem to have.

(07:40):
And again, it's not about numbers, but I seem to have a
bit of a connection with folks in the States.
Do you know why I think that is?I don't know if you'll agree
with me, but because you're so extroverted in your style, I
think here I've always noticed that we're very scared, almost

(08:03):
like to experiment with fashion or style or even.
I was doing a gig last night. I was talking about in Northern
Ireland, you can barely get awaywith just sunglasses in general.
People have a real problem with friends might be like, what are
you doing? Yeah, like a 25° middle of the
day. But we're we're very like, it's

(08:24):
very much a you should just dress like everybody.
Yeah. Or like a set way of doing
things. And when you go outside that, I
think it intimidates people a bit.
Well, I would like to think that, you know, when people get
to know you. I don't think I'm in
intimidating to anyone, you know.
No, I mean just that you have the confidence to yes, to, to
have your own style. Yeah, I think maybe age as well,

(08:47):
Shana, I probably wouldn't have dressed like this in the 20s.
Like when you I'll be, I'll be 55 in a few weeks time and I
don't have as much time as anyone else.
So I really want to make make the most of it, you know?
And will this always continue? OK.
But and also you're saying you didn't dress like that when you
were younger. When you're in your 70s and 80s,

(09:09):
what are you going to be wearing?
This isn't I. Well, maybe just.
I know I don't think I will. I think it might actually get
worse. Just keep.
Going and how does it I always wanted to ask you how does it go
down at church that fashion and style and those outfits is every
does everyone love that or is there like a traditional

(09:29):
element? Well, I do get a bit of abuse.
That's what I was thinking. I online, I get called and, you
know, you're full of pride and, and all this sort of like, like
I'm, I am a Christian, right? Yeah, yeah, I am not, I'm not,
you know, ramming it down people's throat.
I, I believe that, you know, it's, it's kindness and, and
being yourself and, and God madeus all different, you know, and

(09:52):
we've all got different DNA. And I just want to express
myself and live, live a life that, you know, that, you know,
I was given and and purpose. You know, I, I, she and I'll be
honest that I want to do some stuff, you know, I do.
I'm a dreamer. I'm always sending my kids, you
know, I always say to him, and nobody's going to do it for you.

(10:13):
You know, I've, I've knocked on so many doors over the years,
like third, I've been grafting for 36 years in the gym on my
own and you know, the doors havebeen slammed in the face.
We, we had a business, we lost the business.
All this sort of stuff started from scratch.
But I, I am on a, on a mission, to be honest, you know, to try

(10:35):
and, and you know, with, especially with guys like I
love, I love, you know, I know our ends here and that's great,
but not to be a role model because that's a bit, you know,
conceded, you know, who does he,who does he think he is?
But I've, I've had a lot of lifeexperiences and I just want to
try and, and tell guys, you know, you can do this.

(10:55):
Yeah, yeah. Not just being positive for the
sake of you. He he's some sort of mindset
dude. But you can do it, you know.
But, and I think that's why the content, which, how long have
you been doing 10 months online content.
See, that's insane to me because10 months, I think I saw it at
the very start, but that is why I think it resonated with so

(11:18):
many people because of how positive you are as a person.
And there's no, you know, we're talking earlier before this,
where your content being very organic.
And I think that's why people love it because it's not
rehearsed. You're not hard selling
something. It's it's more just like here.
You can do this if you. If you're the worst salesman in

(11:39):
the world, yeah, I do get when you have that amount of
followers even don't even like saying that that think oh, who
who does he think he is? You know, it's just that Belfast
thing. You know, we are, you know, we
are modest and we, we yeah, yeah, we're Gen like I'm, I'm
from the Shore Rd, North Belfastthrough and through.
You'll never, I'll never forget where I'm from, you know, and I

(12:01):
love Belfast. I love Ballymena.
I love Northern Ireland. And again, I put up something
like, oh, I love Northern Ireland.
I get abuse, you know, from yes,you know what it's like.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. I get a lot of stick, but I try
to answer all the comments, every single one.
Yeah, I think, I think that's when I started seeing your stuff

(12:22):
was was you talking about the abuse you'd been receiving
online and that must have did that almost shock you that that
happens? Because if you aren't used to
posting, did you expect criticism like that?
And did it? I think, you know, we're talking
about age and how as you get older, you you experiment more

(12:45):
with style and you go more like this is who I am.
I I've definitely found out. And especially since having
kids, yes, I'm way more comfortable as like myself and
to just make decisions and say, no, I'm going to do this because
I like the idea of it or, or I think this even like even like
dress and stuff like you say, like this looks good or
whatever. And way more trying to impress

(13:06):
people less than just trying to be me.
But the critics online criticismwe've talked about in the
podcast before, but when I started doing online content, I
was maybe 1920 and it was it waswild because there wasn't that
much of it. But anything that it felt so
personal and because I was a kidkind of it, it could have

(13:29):
affected you or a comment reallysit with you for a weekend.
On board it did it did it affect?
Yeah. And I and I almost felt like I
was shaping what I was doing as a result of it.
And you should never obviously do that.
Yeah, but it's probably better in a way that you are seeing
that criticism, but you know whoyou are as a person, so it's
easier to deal with. I have a wee bit of a strategy

(13:50):
and when someone is really vile and I, I try to flip it around
Shane and just flip a wee bit ofkindness.
Yes, yeah. A wee bit of love.
Throws people off. And they don't come back.
Yeah. Yeah, yeah, they don't come.
I know I get a kids. The the first thing is it's
normally the Irish liver king. You're you're on steroids.

(14:12):
You you were a wig and your yourbiceps are fake.
You've got AB. I know every single one of them
in the head. Your abs are and plants.
Yeah, I have a wind machine and a green screen behind because
it's always a lovely day in Ballymena.
No, that is one thing. If I was a conspiracy theorist I
would say it does always look 27° every all year.

(14:33):
On, you know, I was given, I said Bara, he's a boy.
Bara bass. Bara bass.
Yeah, I was giving him is. He giving you stick online.
No, no, I was going. I thought you meant he's one of
the true. I was going to give him a run
for his money, but you see people in the States that they
think like, I love Ballymena, but they think it's this, you
know, this haven, it's like the Garden of Eden.

(14:54):
You're, you're bringing like huge tourism to Ballymena and
then they're at you, you know, exactly.
We didn't expect this. Exactly.
And you, like, you get some crazies that you probably know.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Boy on the other day says like a
private message. Got a lot of private message.
Looking for my socks. He wants to sniff my socks for
£500. I'll be honest, at the start of

(15:17):
that I was like Oh my God, get rid of this guy 500 Now are we
talking a a soccer? Repair.
No, I, I don't know. I'm I'm saying a grand for a
person because. And that what?
If that has to do with you like you just sent, send them off.
There's other things as well like that may be a bit risky,
but I, I put we're in a group chat with the the mighty sky
Blues. I've got another present for you

(15:38):
as well. And the the boys were saying
right, Glenn, do it, do it and we'll we'll split it for the end
of season Kitty and all that sort of stuff.
Yeah. So it's it's.
I I tell a pair of shocks £500 as long as I don't have to see
the guy sniff it. I know, but it just opens up a
can of worms though. And like, there's always a.
Lucrative can of worms? And money's not everything.

(15:59):
You're somebody smelling your socks.
But a pair of, you know, multi packed slabs, you know.
But I love them. Like they're my favourite ones.
Yeah, yeah. Socks.
Yeah, by the way, you know what you're doing because you just
advertise that to the camera. Here you haven't seen anything
yet. I want to.
So let's let's like go back. So I know you played football

(16:21):
across the water when you were akid.
You played for Chelsea because because that's something,
because I know you, you worked with Lauren, now you're working
with Ballymena. But I didn't know you played as
well. I could that's when you're
talking to the lads, you know, that's it's ancient history
there back in the day she and itwas totally different.
Yeah, yeah, I went over to to London at 16 and I was an

(16:43):
apprentice professional. So we're on a contract and, you
know, cleaning the boots and brushing the stands and, you
know, I had three professional people that are players that I
had to look after as a kid. Were they any?
Any notable names? Unless maybe before your time I.
Don't know try me. Carrie Dixon.
Yeah, I know his name. Well, you're making me feel bad.

(17:04):
We played for England. Right.
Yeah, yeah. Big centre for a big handsome
dude, blonde hair and there is aguy, an Australian, Tony Dorigo,
who. Oh yeah, played for Leeds as
well, didn't he? Yeah, yeah.
Believable player. So I was, I was there to look
after their boots and their kit and everything and.
And do you think that's because that obviously doesn't happen

(17:25):
anymore? Oh.
No way. But do you think that way?
Surely ground and waste that's way better.
Oh. It was amazing.
For a kid to learn that and discipline in.
Three years on my own in London and this was before mobile
phones. Yeah, yeah.
So I, I used to have to, it was like a 2 hour journey to get, we
used to train in a place called Harrington and you would have

(17:48):
got the minibus to, to Stamford Bridge and done all your duties
and all this sort of stuff. But it was you, you were like on
a Friday, things that you couldn't get away with now.
Like there was the Irish team, the Scotch team, the English
team in training and you know, other sort of, you know, other
things. Yeah, yeah.
And like, it was like I was called you thick Irish Sea or

(18:14):
this or that, you know, it didn't do me any harm.
You know, I, I probably didn't make it shame because I probably
wasn't tough enough. You have to, I read a, a
statistic the other day, is it 0.0001% of, of young lads who
try to make it to the Premier League actually make it?
Yeah, yeah. Like, and that's a phenomenal

(18:37):
statistic. And, and I have seen it along
the way, you know, and you, you have to be very, very special.
I was I was just fit and and fast.
That that that was my game. I used to used to call me
Forrest Gump, you know, do you know Forrest?
Oh yeah, yeah, used to kick it. You remember when he's running
out? Yes, yes, stadium.
So I was really, really quick because I came from an athletic

(18:59):
background, but I just probably didn't have that steal, you
know, you, you have to be so single minded and just so
focused and being away from home.
You know, I always say this, I was just a kid from the Shore
Rd. But I wouldn't change it.
You know, I learned a lot and there was good lifetime, you

(19:20):
know, experiences, you know, but.
And the players you played with in that team go go on to make it
at Chelsea. Yeah, again, I don't know
whether you'd know any of these boys.
Graham Graham Lasso played for England.
There was a guy called Frank Sinclair, big black guy at the
back who was centre half Craig Burley who played for Scotland

(19:43):
and went on to captain Celtic and all that sort of stuff, you
know. So there was a little and I got
to play in all the old grounds. So I played at White Hart Lane
and Highbury and play like 1 Wimbledon's Grind, obviously,
Stanford Bridge, the Dale, you know, all those, you know.
So there's lasting, lasting memories, you know, getting a
bit emotional now. Yeah.

(20:05):
But. It's a like, would you?
You would be like from your content.
You're like an emotional guy. Oh, shame.
I I I'm not in general, but see anything to do when it comes to
kids. I'm we watch we just finished
the series on Netflix called Untamed about Yosemite National

(20:25):
Park and any like father and sonscene.
Yeah, you're gone. Gone.
Yeah, gone. And that I, I think it's, that's
definitely like an age thing. Yeah, I think I've always been
quite emotional when you say emoji and I'm not afraid to show
vulnerability. Yes.

(20:46):
You know, I think sometimes and I don't just do that, you know,
it can be a strength, but it canbe very disarming.
Yeah, yeah. You know, especially in in
Northern Ireland. So I, I was in a in a gym today.
I very kindly got free membership because I normally
just train in in my garage with George and I was doing all this
and missing George. But anyway, George is my

(21:08):
daughter. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And a couple of folks very kindly came over and said,
listen, I love what you do. I love your and you know what
she like even think about it nowI listen.
That's amazing. Thanks very much.
In the middle of Jim giving thisdude a hug and he's like, whoa.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. But you know, what's the point?

(21:30):
You know, there's a wee thing. Like I say, I'm a Christian, but
I'm not religious, if you know what that means.
I have like a relationship and you know, I there's a thing.
What, what, what's the difference?
So I'm like, I'm not Christian, but I'm not like, I also
wouldn't say. I mean, I just just not my
world. Yeah, right.
But but what do you mean about being Christian but not well?

(21:53):
If it doesn't sound too crazy, Ihave a relationship with Jesus.
I think Jesus was like unbelievable.
Like if, if even if you don't think he was like God's son, he
was a cool. And I better not tell you that.
So tell me. So we were at Larne and I think
it may have been one of your colleagues and we were coming
into the end of the season and tearing in my gaffer at the

(22:16):
time, all the boys around and wanted to try and lift the mood
and we got a comedian in. He's a he's a Cliffenville
supporter. Paddy, Paddy.
Is Patty McDonald. Yes, and he gave me dogs abuse.
So he did so I was sitting at the back trying to just to, you
know, you know, be a bit inconspicuous.
Yeah, hello with the flowers on the boys at Lorne and Ballymena.

(22:40):
They do they do accept who I am.But he he he was saying, oh,
there's there's and I'm not being irreverent, it's just what
happened there. There's Jesus at the back and he
and it was, I just don't think it was, it was appropriate for
that, that situation and says, listen, mate, that's dead on
you, you know, you work away. But again, just, I want the show

(23:01):
love. I want to be kind, I want to be
generous. So all those attributes, you
know, that are in the Bible, youknow, and I, I try to like, I
feel I'm, I'm shocking, like Jillian and I, we would, you
know, I would fight with the kids and you know, some, some
dude on the way down here in thecar, you know, and like you,
you, you have to check yourself sometimes, you know what I mean?

(23:23):
But no, it's just a relationship.
And I, I've been, I've been a Christian for 3030 odd years,
you know, and it's like I, I, I love life to the abundance, you
know, and yeah, get an emotionalagain.
For sake, No, that's, that's allright.
I want to, I want to ask about and we'll, we'll dip back into
that. I, I kind of like you said about

(23:45):
your content. I never have a plan for
anything, you know, even the waywe're going to talk or whatever.
And when you started 10 months to making that online content,
what made you start doing onlinecontent and when did you notice
it start to kind of blow up a wee bit?
What made me well, I've always been a grafter.
I've always so I owned a gym in Newton Abbey on the road to

(24:08):
Carrick and it was called Glenn Wilkinson Lifestyle.
And I thought, my goodness, this, this is a dream come true.
I was there like 14 hours a day,6:00 and I did everything I did
every class. And I think COVID came along and
I'm not that's no excuse. And you know, there was, there
was problems. And then I thought, my goodness,

(24:29):
what am I going to do? Then I went after that.
Tiernan Lynch and Kenny Bruce. Kenny Bruce owned Lauren at the
time. I just met.
Him Purple owned Purple Bricks and the property company.
Yes, a fantastic guy, absolutelyamazing guy.
I can remember one day at the Cliff, I I got there very early

(24:50):
and he was there nobody to be seen.
And he's fixing chairs and he's,he's, he's brushing the floor
and making sure. And it's, I love that unseen.
Stuff, yes. And I think I've, I've done a
lot of unseen stuff and, and learnt my trade, especially, you
know, back in the day when I wasprobably one of the first

(25:11):
aerobics instructors around, youknow, in Belfast.
But in the Grove, do you know the Grove Leisure Centre?
Yeah. But it's aerobic aerobics.
Is it out of water? No, you have Aqua aerobics,
right? I didn't know there was land
aerobics. Why so?
I had land. I had the best.
Is it called land aerobics and it's.
Just aerobics. It's just aerobics, but I used.

(25:34):
I used to love to take that. Right.
And I still love. But this was.
Name me a better album Take out greatest hits.
The first greatest hits album totake that one right.
Incredible. What's your favourite take out?
Song It's been a long time and. Never forget.
That's the one I forgot. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

(25:56):
But what was he talking about? By the way, Oh yes, you for.
Never forget that. You see with me like I'm not
smart, she and I'm not welcome to the club.
I'm not. I didn't do well at.
School. No.
Me neither. You know, I did well in English
language because I really like my English teacher.
Miss Armour, that's another story.

(26:17):
And so I was talking about a robot.
So we used to do this in the Grove Leisure Centre.
So I was born on the Shore Road and the Grove Leisure Centre was
was just there and it was my thing and I used to do aerobics
and there was like 120. This was before I was married.
120 girls, me on the stage doingTake That aerobics.

(26:43):
Sign me up. It was take That aerobics.
I, I, I I followed all their moves, all their choreographed
moves. You know, that one.
Yeah. Only takes me in it.
Yeah. And I was, you know, doing the
running man, and it was packed. Every week.
Oh yeah, but it'd be packed now if you.
Did that. But you never know.
And like I'm a straight dude, you know, back back in the day,

(27:04):
you know, the aerobic skies. I'm not, I'm not, you know, I
have, you know, can you say thatsort of stuff, you know?
Yes, a great guy. Yeah.
And a lot of those guys were were.
That's another thing to get online as well.
I I said, have you seen my wife?Yeah.
Have you seen? Jillian's beautiful.
She's like, Jillian's beautiful.She's like, I fancy her now more

(27:29):
than I'm getting emotional. Like, yeah, I fancy her more
now. Yeah, when I met her the very
first date. See, I do she.
Wasn't in the take that aerobic?Class No, she was like she was
very she a lot younger than me. She right.
So be careful, OK? You tell me to be careful.
I'm not wanting to be careful. To be careful.
So I met her and I knew you on the first date we had.

(27:50):
I was going to marry her. Right.
They're very. And then people say, oh, that's
crazy, but I just knew. Yeah, yeah.
So that that was down in the Grove Leisure Centre.
And that's where I learnt my trade.
Yes. I learnt my trade under a guy
called Kenny Beatty. And was he a Take that guy?
No, definitely not. He was a boxer.
He was a Commonwealth gold medalchampion Show Rd guy.

(28:11):
But I learned a lot from him andanother guy, Cormac McCann, and
that's where I learnt my trade. We used to have this thing on a
Tuesday and a Thursday morning called ladies Activity, right,
like you do. No, just so I just recently
qualified. I was, I was came back from

(28:31):
England. I was 19.
I came, I looked alright. I wasn't, you know, I'm not bad,
you know, Yeah. Anyway, so Tuesdays and
Thursdays from and it's, it's ingreen from 10:00 to 12:00.
All the ladies from North Belfast used to come in and they
could have used the, the sauna and the swim and, and the gym.

(28:53):
So I'm, there's 19 year old guy back in the day before, like a
lot of folks are, are, are PTS. But I, I was just a wee fitness
instructor. Yes.
And there was just the sea of women in their bathing suits
coming from the pool. And you ever see those those
hats with the flowers on them? Do you know that like you have

(29:13):
to wear like a swimming? Oh, yes, yeah, yeah.
And. There's like a thing, right?
And there's like a sea of treadmills and all I see is
these. Can you say rotund?
You absolutely can say. Like sort of rotund ladies.
Yes, in, in their bathing suits,Yeah, in their flip flops.
And I was responsible for, you know, for to stimulate these
ladies for two hours. Right.

(29:34):
Yeah, don't know if you can say stimulate that, say rotund,
maybe the wrong use of the word.Stimulated.
Terribly honest. Like a stunning fee.
No, far from like I seriously, Idon't get intimidated too much.
Yeah, but I was intimidated by those ladies.

(29:55):
Yeah, especially like the aerobics kind of ladies.
Like sometimes I be in the pool and you see the the older ladies
doing the water aerobics and they're like, they're into it
like. The buoyancy is important in the
water, but there do you know, there's a sort of a S&C depends
on the temperature of the water.A lot of people swim and think

(30:17):
it's maybe really good for, you know, burning fat and that sort
of stuff. But the the temperature of the
water is is isn't conducive for that.
But that's another. Story Do you?
What do you mean? You want the water to be cold or
you want to be warm. Well, if it's it's a lot,
sometimes it's too warm. You won't burn fat.
You know, you see people go on going and going.
But I suppose fitness is controversial.

(30:40):
One study says that's the, you know, the affirmative, and
they'll say it. What's the most?
Yeah, it's and that I think the first video I saw yours, you
were saying that you prefer likehigh Rep like 30 reps in a set,
love 30 reps and you have so many people in that comment like
wrong. I know there's this, this lad

(31:00):
from Belfast and maybe he was just jumping on but.
By the way, they're all, by the way, these people are always
jumping on. They're going guys just jumping
on and they're all jumping on. I remember that.
The human Pogo sticks. So I I had like a video of me
doing my, my 30 reps I'm not a bad neck.
No, I'm I'm giving it that. And he had his, his wee.

(31:21):
I don't even know how to do it, but he he had his wee, the wee
box of him. He, so he's he's put himself in
your your videos playing in the background, yes.
And he is hammering me and and he's saying this is ridiculous
and who who's this guy and all this sort of stuff.
And and I'm using there is a rationale that I've sort of

(31:42):
developed with that. You know, I believe that you
don't need the lift heavy. Thank God that's just that's
just one. Of my heart.
Well, he was on and I didn't sayanything.
But to be honest, a lot of folkswho who maybe sort of agree with
me, I didn't have to say anything.
Yes. People are going to say it for.
You they came on and and I thinkhe he took it down and all that

(32:03):
seriously. I felt a bit sorry, but it's my
name. It's surely all.
I just can't believe you're sitting in my time top.
Do you know what? I'm so glad that you've given me
it because I couldn't have bought this for myself so this
feels like the start of something.
That's a wee sale number. I love it.
Do you like it I. Like it?
I don't know what circumstance Iwould wear it in, but maybe I

(32:23):
don't need a circumstance claim.Just wear it Sunday.
Just own it. Just Sunday maybe I need to
start getting Sunday is going tobe my day where I just expect I
couldn't go flares. Could you not?
I just couldn't do it. It's the fit of them.
I love the fit of them. So again, not being fancy pants,
but there there's a wee place, Madcap England.

(32:43):
Can I say that or no, Madcap London.
And they they send me the the flowers to be honest.
Right. And the bandanas and but, and is
there anyone at church who's like, is there kind of some
older people maybe who are like,but not speaking to the
committee, maybe be like, what'shappening here?
I don't know. We don't have all.
The elder. I well, not in my church.

(33:03):
I've been going there a long time, like 18 years.
But other people would come on and they, they quote like stuff
from the Bible and pride. Pride is a sin and all this sort
of stuff. Yes.
Listen, you can't please everyone.
You know, and that's and that's the same we're talking about
technique and ways to do things.But like you're testament the
fact that whatever you're doing is working for you.

(33:25):
So I can't understand why peopleare going to come on and be like
this is wrong if they're not also.
And even I think if it is another PTI think that kind of
things then like a private conversation.
Yeah. If he wants to message you,
whoever it is, and be like, you know, start a conversation
about, yeah, what he thinks, maybe you could do that.
Well, that's maybe just one element of a decent physique.

(33:48):
You know, at 55, I'll be, I keepsaying that anyway, it's a
lifestyle. She and I have been doing this a
long, long time. I don't, I don't deviate, I
don't compromise. I don't have That's another
weird thing. When I'm on doing the stuff, I

(34:09):
never like to say, don't do this, this doesn't work, don't
do this. This is, you know, this is the
be all and end all. That's right.
I say, listen, this is what I do, you know, give it a go.
You know, before you knock it, give it a go.
See, you can handle it. But and folks would say it's a
lightweight it's but it depends what you consider as light.

(34:30):
I push quite a lot of weight. So there's something that you
can maybe think about and the ultimate leg session.
So I love working legs. I get so much abuse from my
legs. Do you have your legs?
If I wear shorts in any kind of video, OK, I get a lot of I've
got the comment more meat on a butcher's bench 1000 times.

(34:53):
Seeing better legs hanging out of a nest.
Well, no one said that, Glenn, so I don't know why you have,
but a lot of I get a lot of abuse from a leg.
No, I'm not coming. None of my videos are me going
check out these for great legs. I just happen to earn shorts in
a video and people are like skipleg day and then I, and I don't

(35:13):
mean to be rude, but I look at some of these individuals and I
go, who on earth are you talkingto?
So I one of the. Videos.
That I paid up. I like my short short.
I like my short. Short you know I'm trying to
bring the 80s back. Like remember the old Admiral
ones, Do you remember? Do you know?
I know that Brian because he's did all the football tops, but I

(35:34):
was never around for the Admiral.
Well, I was around when it wasn't retro, right?
Yeah, yeah. So there, there.
I like my shorts. I have a decent, decent set of
wheels, so and there can be a bit tight and I forget where it
was. Was that Larne or was it I don't
know. And some of the fans were
singing Your shorts are too short.

(35:58):
Your shorts are too short and the result are expletives.
But then you've got to worry about the shorts getting
shorter. I don't worry about that.
You're turning. 55 But then things are going to start
slipping. But you've got a good jockstrap
one. You're alright.
Well, that's fine then. It's all about the jockstrap.
Yes, I like, I love a short short I, but I just yeah, people

(36:19):
like people slide my legs. So one of my videos that got a
lot of traction, you don't know it.
It was the middle aisle in Littles.
Yes, that's where I got my shorts and they are the I love
the middle. I I get lots of stuff in the
middle island and littles and there was these green shorts
with the you know, the wee undershorts underneath yes and the

(36:40):
amount especially Americans, where you get where you get
those shorts. That's terrible accent tell you
still. We were in America and every
time we went for a Starbucks anda Sun Ross, we had to take it in
terms to order in an American accent.
It was the fun, but I think that's nice story.
So back to the the little shortsand all these Americans way,
man, where'd you get those shorts?

(37:01):
And I said the middle, the middle I little because I try to
respond to every single message.Yes, which is wild.
Which but if people are kind enough, shame.
Do you not respond to every message?
Not every message. I would love to but it's to me
it's just not possible. Obviously if someone says I'm
very personal, you know, or they're asking you to do

(37:22):
something, maybe even if you can't do it, of course I want to
be like, I can't do this or yes,I can do this, but every it's,
it's just physically it wouldn't.
Be possible what time you up in the morning?
Seven, maybe just before. That's maybe what it is.
Probably I get up at 5 from 5 to6.
It would do actually. Four.

(37:43):
I get up at 4:00. I get up 4 just remembered.
So I at the start, but I said I don't have as much time.
So I'm, as you, you know, I'm, I'm trying to, you know, just
cram everything in as much as I can.
But but yeah, I think I think that that is why everything's
blown up online because it is sonatural.

(38:03):
You're also the age that you are.
So you're not like so many PTS are late teens, early 20s, that
kind of thing. Whereas you have the life
experience for the football background, your faith, all this
different stuff. So it's just a totally different
to what other people are doing. What was the first video that
like took off for you or you noticed there was a lot of

(38:23):
numbers on? And it was a normally do a bicep
on a Friday. So my training so simple, my
nutrition so simple, but I just do it consistently.
So it was 1 and it was like a what's what's better?
30 reps or or 8 to 12 reps Everyone you know is in that yet

(38:44):
the and it was just going so. It's people arguing almost in
the comments and that puts the video of people's feed.
Exact. And I'm just saying, listen, I
just asked the question, you know?
It might just drop the match andthen you walk off walk.
Away, but it still answered themall, which is Jelly and cracks
up. And what are you doing?
I'm messaging some boy, but no. But this going back to my like

(39:10):
my USP is probably my age, you know, and being being fit and
like I love the pre season, working with the boys and being
around the boys. You know what it's like in that,
in that dressing room environment, It's it's that
keeps me, that keeps me young and the people that are in my
life and Gillian being a lot younger than me.

(39:30):
Yeah, 'cause help. I think my lips stop there.
I think like you see so many people who like, lose that, you
know, as in they're playing football or a sport and then
they're away from a dressing room and they find it so
difficult. Should be able to keep doing it,
but in a different capacity. Yeah, must be great because,
yeah, like I said, the social side of it and stuff and it's

(39:52):
brilliant and like dressing rooms, like you wouldn't want to
write down what people are saying in dressing rooms.
Unbelievable. But it's a it's a unique
environment, the kind of and long, I think longevity stuff.
Like I I always say I'm going tostop playing football like I'm
done, but I've been saying that since it was like 30.
One never stop. But I think, no, I can do it.

(40:15):
But then I also have other fitness types, things I like
doing, like running, yeah, I'd never been into.
And then a couple of years, so when the season stops or
whatever, I just get into park runs and I5K is like my thing.
And then I started, well, that became like a bit of a goal for
me then. So in April I was like, I really

(40:36):
want to go under 20 minutes. I was going to say and I got.
1953 or something like that. And that was like a huge because
I think when you're younger, youknow, you set more goals and
stuff. And then I hadn't set a goal in
a long time. Like career wise, I never set
goals. I just like to work hard and
hope that good things will come as a result of that.
But then when I want to do a sub20 run, when I did that, it was

(40:59):
just an unbelievable feeling. You know that's.
A decent time a. Goal and then doing it.
But you know, you're, you're very lean and you're very, do
you lift weights at all? I left, yeah, I left.
I've got a gym in the house and I the only thing is I can't put
on size. I just, I struggle with that.
I've Crohn's disease. OK.
Yeah, that's. Part of it, yeah, but I I am

(41:19):
just a naturally slim guy. You're an ectomorph.
And I'm not even call worse, I am I.
You have ectomorph, endomorph and mesomorph.
It's just a different type. Of and what am I react to?
Morph and ectomorph? I don't like I.
Don't know it's alright. I don't like being a reactor.
That's alright. I'm not slagging you or
anything. Not like that.

(41:40):
That's good. It's just a you're.
I'm a mesomorph. You know, that's way a
mesomorph. I think some bit of a Marvel
movie. I won't be able.
You're me react no more. Can I tell you something about
Marvel movies? Yes.
And So what? One of my guys who's on one of
my programmes and not trying to get business running, but then
his name is Tika and he's a director.

(42:02):
He directed Marvel and when we were in.
To get take take a work. I'm going to say this wrong.
Take a what take? Yeah, where we are.
I was chatting to him yesterday and I don't know what kind of I
was in his house, you can't say.And Rita Laura.

(42:22):
Yes, he was upstairs. Gillian was sitting in the
kitchen. She's going.
We're in Rita Ora's house. Yeah.
And he is the nicest, kindest, friendliest guy.
So he's doing like he's on the check insurance where you like.
Oh, he's, he's on my my sculpt programme and he's just then
he's I'm like he's. How does that come about?

(42:43):
Social media. So when we were in LA, my, my
kids were, we were at a place inCalifornia called Bethel.
And my girls were doing like a college thing.
There are three church there. My girls are singers, right?
That's me getting emotional now.Yeah.
Yeah, that's OK. I've I've got emotional multiple

(43:04):
times on this podcast. Probably worse that I was
probably fighting with them and not being a particularly good
daddy. But anyway, so we were in just
before we came on here. You know, I think you save
you're real. You have to be real of.
Course of. Course.
Anyway, so we were in California, then we went to San
Francisco where we got mugged. That's another story I saw.

(43:24):
You talk that is a ropey place was tricky.
It's all uphill, it's windy and you're going to get mugged.
And it's freezing. So but my son Ross, he's he's
22, he's this boy just came out from nowhere and people think it
was making this up, make that up.
And Ross, Ross can handle himself.
And he just, he had like a hoodie only he got the hoodie up

(43:46):
and he had the boy and he was going to.
So this guy came out of nowhere and his, Ross's wee girlfriend,
he came over and he grabbed and all that.
It was a bit scary. But Ross, he came to the rescue.
But anyway, so I was talking about Taika.
So I happened to say, oh, we're going to LA.
He says welcome and see me. So he lives literally 200 metres

(44:09):
below the Hollywood sign and Jolly and I were driving up.
That's another thing we do in Belfast, Sir.
Give us a call gives a text. Going to the gym and I met him
and we just had it off and I'm hoping I was talking about
dreaming. I'm hoping that that connection

(44:30):
that, you know, not that I'm going to try and, you know,
shoehorn it, but if it works, itworks, but.
What about you? Pitch him a movie today, ideally
called Macdomorphine Endomorph, and it's me and you and I don't
know what we're doing, heroes, but we're doing it.
OK? Just send a picture of what
we're wearing right now and say.I'll send him this.
That's not good. But the love, you know, to have

(44:53):
all that sort of, I didn't really know who he was, to be
honest. I like I I'm not really into
those movies and no, me neither.And he's done a lot of those
things. But the kindest, humblest guy
you know, and I, I just want to be around people like see,
coming here today, I, I've, I can't.
I've just. Just being around, you know, the

(45:15):
guys and, you know, stretching yourself and trying, you know,
trying to trying to make yourself that wee bit better.
Yeah, I love that. But we were, we were training
them in his gym and the Hollywood sign and Gillian's
like, what on earth are we doinghere?
And we were, we were like whispering.
What are we doing? Yeah, it's just a magical but
like we, we went to LA but 12 years ago more.

(45:39):
No, nine years ago. And when you see maybe it's
being from here or whatever, butlike when you see that sign
stuff, it's it's magical. Like that's a spiritual kind of
as I'm not Christian, but. Yeah, that's a spiritual.
Kind of thing. Yeah, and even going to Goals
gym, like I I was in Gold's Gym,a friend that I met that we we

(46:00):
stayed in a beautiful place right on the beach.
I like I'm thinking Gillian and the kids, what on earth, you
know, we're so blessed to have this opportunity.
I'm walking down the road to Gold's Gym.
It's raining and you know, and Iknow we love from the showroom,
but I'm flipping owning this and.

(46:20):
You're able to make your contentthere and you're.
Yeah, and I met loads of people and it was funny that they have
these wee things in LA and all those cars with nobody in them.
Yeah, yeah. Yeah, Wheel drive.
Yeah. And we ordered.
There's these wee buggies, like a wee wheelbarrow that you can
go, my IT skills are terrible, but the kids did it.

(46:41):
And you can go on and order, I don't know, McDonald's or
something. And this wee truck comes to
your, you're walking down MuscleBeach and you see these wee
trucks, you know, like a wee wheelbarrow.
And it's going to somebody's house with like Door Dash or
with, you know, some supplies and.
That couldn't work here and we stroked straight away.

(47:01):
I mean, I mean you just wait forone, you like you, that's gone.
But stroked what was like the, Imean the bikes, the Belfast
bikes. I didn't last year, no.
All of them just end up in the like people were like no, we
can't handle this like I know, but it like that must that must
that's a surreal extent to be working with somebody like that

(47:23):
then. It was just.
It's like the first time when I was doing, started doing like
social media, whatever, the first time you would get a
follow from somebody really wellknown.
Yeah. You just couldn't believe it.
You couldn't believe it. Like you just sit being like
this is not. I've had a few guys.
Johnny Sexton, he's on my plan and earning K was on it as well.

(47:45):
That's not, isn't. It it's good because they're
older guys. Yeah, yeah.
Not that it's just primarily forolder guys, but that you know
that they understand that you just can't keep hammering your
body the whole time. And there's a lot.
Do you do Zone 2 stuff? Do you do work in Zone 2?
I wouldn't be a big technical guy.
I just run like I just run. But sometimes zone 2 is when

(48:08):
you're working for a longer duration at a lesser intensity.
Do you mean like weights or cardio?
Or cardio. I do a lot of cardio.
I'll do like if I'm not playing football I would do like 1 like
interval Sprint workout, a 5K and then maybe a slow 5K.
Well that's slow. K might be your your, but that

(48:28):
zoom 2 probably should last about 40 minutes.
Right, right, right. I do an R Zoom 2 every day.
But is that about your heart rate?
Because I have a very low heart rate.
Yeah, so you want to be working maybe 65, seven percent of your
heart rate. So it helps to I'm all about she
and just trying to, to bolster my testosterone because guys, we

(48:50):
are driven by our testosterone and I, I get accused of being on
TRT and train and I don't even know what those things are.
But I, I try to, to, to maximisemy testosterone naturally and I
would get tested from, from timeto time and just to see where
you are. So you can have a test between
maybe 6 would be low or 26 wouldbe high.

(49:13):
And at my age, I'm sort of on the wing, but I'm not taking
that as gospel. I'm doing everything in my part,
you know, to, to bolster my testosterone and, and when guys
sort of accuse me of being on hall, you can't be in that sort
of condition at at my age, but they don't see the work.

(49:33):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, have. You ever had your test?
Yeah, I did round ox and there II kind of do it every year and
mine was always like surprisingly higher than I
thought it would be. I don't know why, but like I
think like I I if I see something on tech talk, I just
believe it. OK, so I remember reading the
testosterone thing that's like, oh, if you have like a good

(49:55):
hairline, you can't grow a beard.
Like probably a very low testosterone.
Nothing, I just have low testosterone.
Can you not grow beard? I can't grow beard.
I honest. I genuinely cannot, cannot grow
beard you. Need to give.
It gets very Asian, Glenn. You know, like a Chinese chain.
Like I know. Yeah, you can.
I don't know what you can't say.No, you can't.

(50:16):
I can say it to my face but I I get very like.
Here, Did you not? Did I not see something you were
going to do a Tash? I tried and you know what?
I thought it was brilliant. And then I.
Think it looked decent. I thought it looked good.
We talked about it. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yes, I sent you a message. I like your tosh.
But it just I shouldn't have listened to people.

(50:38):
You have to persevere. No no longer it was going on the
worse it was getting. My hair is quite fair as well,
so. I started growing this one
yesterday. The hair is.
I just that's a lot of I get a lot of questions.
Can you please tell me your yourhair routine?

(50:59):
Me, I, I don't have a hair routine.
I just wake up and it's all likea fuzzy poverty.
The so you also did you like youdid gladiators as well?
Long time ago. How class that?
That was good fun. Were you contestant or
gladiator? No, no, I'm 450.
Itching, right? How did you?
How did you? Is this like, are we talking
Wolfman here? Yeah, yeah, that, that was the
original. Did you meet the Wolfman?

(51:19):
Why was the Wolfman a nasty piece of work off screen as
well? As he standing character the
whole time did he actually did? Like behind the scenes, there's
no need for him to do that. He's when it's not being.
Filmed he's still in character the whole she.
Was just a villain in real life.Yeah, it was love, love.
I still have some friends back then.
The guy who beat me, guy called Buster Reeves went on to be a

(51:44):
stuntman in Hollywood, and he was Christian Bale's stuntman in
all the Batman movies. All right, Buster, I still
Chitty chat chat with him. What gladiator were you up
against? I was up against Hunter.
Yeah. Long.
Oh yeah, the big guy. I didn't.
Mean to say that like that, but I remember.

(52:05):
What warrior? He was like 6-6 and 25 stone
that I I. But tell me more about the
Wolfman. So like, did you meet the
Wolfman during filament? Oh, I they're, they're, they're
there, you know, was. He did a boat show and by I
remember in Bangor my dad took me like some sort of boat show
or something. And was he there would guess
the. Yeah, but he was like, he won

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the happy. He's in character.
He was in character but like whydidn't no one get a message?
The Wolfman to be like you, onlywe only need this during the
show. He's in character all the time.
So he wasn't nice to you? And Ulrika Johnson was nice.
Oh yeah, yeah. And.
The fash. Big, big fash.
He was hosting, yeah. Contenders ready?

(52:46):
Did you get up the travel later?I did I oh, a second Buster he
he went ahead of me so. I would do you watch a rebooted
version of that. I tried to go on it.
I did ask them but they I said it was too old really I was got
it because I'm probably fed or now.
Yeah, I was. Back in the back in the day.
So that's my ageism, is it? Yeah, I.

(53:07):
Just have like a we should have like an older guys gladiators.
But why older guys? What do you mean but?
It's like, but it's not like. It's just things like, you know,
like the hell the travel leader is not as fast.
Oh. Come.
On, you know, hang. On for like we because it.
No, you like, you're going to beme and gladiators, of course,
but like. But I don't age, you know?

(53:30):
I said a second ago, I'm probably as fit now.
Yeah, then I was in my 20s or 30s.
I think I'm fitter now than I was in.
I couldn't run, yeah, the way I did back then because I think
you have natural fitness. Like when I was playing
football, 16/17/18, You just glide through anything.
Yeah, and then you have to then work for it.
But when you have. That baseline?

(53:52):
That you've worked for yeah, it's way better you.
Have to be smart as well. Like there's a huge difference
between what I train like in my own sort of bit like grindstone
and strength and conditioning for football.
It's it's totally different. You know, you want to be very
specific and I I worked under a great team at Larne and learned

(54:13):
a lot that the backroom staff there was amazing guy called
Michael Boyle and and there's Sheamus and Tiernan and you
know, for for long to win the league twice and get be the
first team ever to qualify for group stages.
What was amazing and I made somegood lasting friends.
Then do. You feel like the players get, a

(54:35):
lot of them get really into it to the point.
Does that make you proud of, youknow they're going to go on and
have an interest in this and. You know.
Not just do it because it's their job.
You know what? I mean, yeah, if they buy into
it, you know, we always used to say it's the 1%, you know, it's
the 1% in your nutrition, in your strength and condition and
in your recovery and your sleep.You know, all those we 1% and I

(54:59):
know some of the boys don't likeit, but I say primarily I look
upon them as athletes first and footballers second.
So if if you're, you know, maximising your full potential
as an athlete, then as a footballer you're going to, you
know, excel. Yeah.
What then? One like when I was putting the

(55:20):
vest on there. You're saying there's better
ways I could carry myself? Yeah.
What are you thinking? Give me some tips.
I like a walnut. I I have walnuts in in strategic
places in my body metaphorically, so I always have
like a walnut in my butt cheeks.Just a.
How big's a walnut? And it depends, maybe a fee, but

(55:42):
it's activation. So if I'm going to, we could do
a postural assessment right now.We should bet you my posture is
terrible. Would you want to do it?
Yes. OK, let's go.
Do you will you be able to see it?
OK, Lost your assessment. I bet your mind's awful.
OK, right. What do I need to do?
Just. I'll instruct.

(56:03):
You right. So I'm just checked some
sometimes. Hold on, let me bring this
right. So is it taps half?
Yeah. See you are you.

(56:24):
See here. You.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Down there.
Yeah. Sorry to see I'm not hitting on
you. No, no, no.
So if you maybe move over a little, OK, So let if if we get
the mechanics correct at the bottom, 9 times out of 10, it's
correct at the top. So we just put our hands behind
her head. Can you stretch up in this
position without hitting that? OK, so all I want you to do is

(56:45):
squat. So automatically I'm looking at
you and there isn't symmetry there.
So this. Because my lazy eye is and.
This is yeah, this is standard. We are sitting, we little.
OK, so I just want to do a squatass to the grass like this.
Yeah, with your arms. My legs any bigger though.

(57:06):
Well, you see, so that's the path of least resistance when I
asked you to do a squat. You think this week dudes asking
me to squat? So I'm going to have to alter my
my position and to make it easier, right?
So I'll allow you just to point your toes out very slightly
squat. Shame.

(57:27):
Go on, go on. Go on, go on.
OK, Hold. Hold it there.
So ideally your arms would be away from your peripheral
vision. Can you OK?
No, I'll be come. So the hips are good, which
enables you to get nice and low.Yeah, but because your arms are
falling forward like that, there's maybe some some issues
that you have with your shoulders or your spine or your

(57:50):
your your mid back. I'm soaking.
Because here's the thing, I'm 6 foot but I want honestly I am
but my my posture is so bad so you can't tell.
I'm 5-6. Honestly.
Is that? I mean, I really am.
I just. I feel like I.
Stop. You're you're tight.

(58:12):
You have a very pleasing physique.
Yes, you. Do name of the episode very
pleasing physique. Can I give you my other present?
Yes, absolutely. Happy enough for this?
Yes, I've just been told I have a very pleasing physique.
I'm never more delighted in my life.

(58:33):
Right, so I have another wee. So I said to you before about my
passions in life. It's like longevity and being
from Northern Ireland and one tosort of represent Northern
Ireland. But this this shirt is very
important to the to me and a lotof the folk folk.

(58:54):
That's a Ballymena thing. This is the new Ballymena
beautiful shirt. But there's great significance
behind this. OK, this is so this is a memory
of a young girl called Lydia andher daddy Paul.
Such a lovely fella. And there's a tragedy on the way

(59:15):
to 1 of the games. Yeah, I remember that.
And they're the nicest family. I just.
Thank you very much. It's.
Not just this shirt. I know we were all right.
Thank you. It's not.
It's not just the shirt, it's the mean, it's the meaning
behind it. It's a lovely thing for the.
Club it is, you know, do Aqua doat Ballymena?

(59:38):
We do things well, you know we do.
I'm an emotional wreck now, but that's.
That's just a it's a lovely shirt, lovely shirt.
And the home shirts, lovely too.I mean, I've killed it this
year. It's nice, isn't it?
That's nice. Round your arms too.
So when you got decent biceps, Ifind them a bit difficult when I
get those bad boys. Me too.

(59:59):
No, but that's that's a lovely meaning behind the shirt.
I remember that happening and yeah, thank you very much.
I I did it. You sent about Ballymena thing,
you know, doing things right andstuff.
I did a gig for Ballymena, right?
Pretty much hospitality thing. Normally I don't do that because
I'm a firm believer that like, stand up should be in a comedy

(01:00:21):
club, the best way to enjoy it. And when you do it outside of
that, it's not really the right environment that I'm like, I
think people love the idea of it, but I don't know what to
want. But yeah, when it comes to
David, Jeffrey was manager at the time I went in.
I'd say the average age was 100 and and they were having a meal

(01:00:44):
and then they stopped and then we're going to have some stand
up comedy. It was one of the worst I've
ever done you. Can hear pen drop do?
You know what it was? It was just I kind of approached
it wrong. It wasn't that they didn't want
comedy. They just want that I think an
older style of comedy or something.
And at that age, it was maybe itwas 8 years ago or something.

(01:01:08):
I probably didn't have the experience to be able to just
read the room and adapt to whatever they needed.
I was just doing what I had beendoing, Yeah.
So I get flashbacks to that. Well, maybe get your back I'll.
Go back to the showgrounds and avenge it.
We'll set the the scene a bit more.
Yeah, yeah. A bit more receptive to you.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. But I, but I think I'm more
experienced. And again, going full circle,

(01:01:29):
the talk about being comfortablein your own skin.
Back then I was not that I wasn't uncomfortable skin.
Now I'm way more relaxed and I would trust myself to be able to
bring it around more. Whereas back then I just.
Couldn't you were saying about you don't really plan sort of
ambition and goals and stuff? No, I used to.
I used to be, I would, this is what I want to do this year.

(01:01:52):
And then I realised that the industry I'm in is so
unpredictable. Yeah, the you could write out
these goals, but chances are notin a defeat this way, but
they're not going to work out like that just because
everything things change every week.
So do I want to write out five goals that I'm going to not
succeed in? So I have an idea always of what

(01:02:15):
I want to be doing, but I'm I prefer to just work hard and
trust the good things will happen instead of setting any
goals. And it's still feel like I
would, I would consider myself ambitious, but I don't have
specific goals in mind. It's more as things crop up, I
go, well, that might be good, you know?
I have some specific goals that I and that doesn't mean to say I

(01:02:36):
just not I nothing just lands onyour lap.
Yeah, you know you're a worker. I'm I've always been a worker
trying to instil that in my kids.
But Mike, I would love to try and do something in the States,
try and have a couple of connections at the moment and
working on different things, butsort of behind the scenes.

(01:02:57):
But I think in the past as well,you probably, you get so excited
and this is going to happen and then when it doesn't, you know,
it's a bit of a kick in the. Absolutely.
Yeah. And anytime you speak to someone
you had a meeting about something in my head, I was
like, this is. And I tell people, you know, and
then you set yourself up for failure.
Can hold your own faith in. I thought you were sent over my

(01:03:19):
neck. When you looked at my neck, I
was like, I don't even. Support it.
I'm a bit like that. I can't hold me on, you know I
want it. I've got an idea.
Well. I think we should do.
I could see us doing ATV series where we do like a fitness quest
thing. For example, in November I'm

(01:03:42):
thinking about doing the Tenerife half marathon, but I've
never done anything like that before.
So we pick like 4 things and youknow, you're like helping me do
it. You serious?
Yeah, because I got it when I did that 5K thing.
I love a guy called Robbie Heegan, like who's a runner,

(01:04:04):
paced me for it. And then I was able to do it
because he looked at me and was like, send them a Strava time
because I was doing like 20 minutes, 3 seconds, 20 minutes,
9 seconds, Right. Yeah.
He's like, you just need to paceit.
Yeah. And then I did it.
I love to do. So I'm like, yeah, I'm now
thinking like, what else can I do if I'm paced?
We I broke. Olympics.

(01:04:24):
A Guinness World Record and I pushed a wheelbarrow the whole
way around Northern Ireland, he laughed.
So it's a legitimate record. Took us a week.
I'm not doubting, I'm not doubting your record, but like,
had anyone tried to do it? No.
Right. Haven't tried since.
Did you come? What year was this?

(01:04:45):
And this was about maybe 10-9 years ago.
So isn't my training partner at the time he was in the
wheelbarrow, he was like 100 kilogrammes and I'm like 75
kilogrammes. So I pushed him for a mile, then
we swapped, I pushed, he pushed me for a mile the whole way
around Northern. Ireland If the record hadn't
existed before, why did someone need to be in the wheelbarrow?

(01:05:06):
I would have just said did you ring them and go I'll push my
mate round and wheelbarrow. You should have just had a push
wheelbarrow and you could add nothing it.
Well, there was some slightly different sort of nuances in the
record, but we pushed for 14 hours a day.
We're doing it for charity, Right, Right, right.
It was really difficult, it was.Like to push someone wheelbarrow

(01:05:26):
round the whole country? Yeah, you know, the six
counties. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
You know. I'd say that would be hard.
Can't remember what was that waythat way anyway.
And are you in the book? Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Well, there might have been a discrepancy with.
You had an engine on one of the.Stages.
We didn't maybe calculate 1 of the stages and it was
scrutinised but everyone. Was a wee guy with you the whole

(01:05:48):
time for. Why We had a big support
network. Nobody from the Guinness Book of
Records. That they, it was the guy who
was organising it for it. He was about ropeway to be
honest. And we, we were a bit raging
afterwards, you know, has this been validated?
Oh, we're working on it. But we had to get the Parades
Commission and all day, you know, to walk on the roads, you
know, with the wheelbarrow. We had to get the the PSNI to

(01:06:11):
allow us to. Why were people kicking off with
that? It was just, it's like a March
or whatever. Oh right, yeah I was going to
say what colour was the wizard colours on the wheelbarrow or
anything? Well, actually got the
wheelbarrow stolen. We were parked in the place
outside Newcastle and we woke upin the morning like a 5:00 and
someone did nick the wheelbarrowso I had to get under and the

(01:06:31):
DIY some DIY shop and get a new wheelbarrow.
Only in. Northern Ireland.
God. Smart.
Is there any other records you'dlike to break?
There's a, there's a yes, there's a record, and I love my
CrossFit. Yes.
And there's a record and it's called a Toda bar exercise when

(01:06:53):
you hang from a bar and you touch the bar with your toes and
it's all core and grip and I'm half decent at it.
And I think the record is 1000 in the R So I would like, I'm
always challenging myself. I would like to have a crack at
that and see how that goes. I can't take you seriously.

(01:07:13):
Send those glasses on. Have any other presents for you?
I wherever, wherever I go, I always have food with me.
Yes, yes, you have food in your pocket.
Quite a bit. I take like potatoes in my
pocket or. I'll take a gluten free pocket
bop quite a few places. You do?
Oh, do you do bread? Do gluten free bread
occasionally. Is it not still bread?

(01:07:34):
Yeah. OK.
Would you like one of my little meals in my pocket?
And I get out of your pocket. It hasn't been in my pocket yet.
No, but I don't want to. It's pardon.
I don't want it from your pocket.
No, it hasn't been in my pocket yet.
OK, right. What is it?

(01:07:55):
You must you go through some tinfoil, Glenn.
Latte. That's another thing I got used
online. Oh, because of the environment.
Tinfoil police, plastic police, every type of police out there.
Micro plastics. We did a gig recently and used
an 8. We did a gig on less than 24
hours. Noticed me and a friend last
night. My mate called get us and he was

(01:08:15):
like I'll just fire up a poster here and used AI for the poster.
Just normally we do like big proper design posters.
Yeah, it was like a gig on very short notice.
Seen him with the people. Well apparently we've wrecked
the environment. Me and Colin.
We've also got rid of the world's water because they need
water to cool down the AI data centres, so every time you do

(01:08:38):
something like this, you use up a lot of water so you know who
to blame for the world. Mike, I just listen me.
You know what? What are China doing?
You know, I think the emissions and in China alone, you know
what with me putting tinfoil in my bops, you know, saving right

(01:08:58):
so well. They're the number one and #2
causes of pollution. What tinfoil?
Your tinfoil and his emissions. So here it's probably a bit
pungent but I love Littles. Littles is my favourite shop and
I get everything in littles. These are Littles skinny
burgers. OK.

(01:09:19):
You better eat it because I'm starving.
They're cold. I put them in the active fire
this morning at 5:00. There's maybe still a wee bit of
warmth on them, is that not? See, I don't really like upon
Food is pleasure. And here's another thing.
Well, yeah, I brought you. There's some.

(01:09:41):
Thank you. Just a bag of broccoli, so.
Will you just, will you just getstraight into that?
Why will you wash it? No making shirts.
See the So here's my quandary about the burger.
We'd love you to join us for lunch.
We go for lunch after all the podcasts.
If you have time, we'd love you to come to Joxer and Hollywood
for lunch. Where that's going?

(01:10:01):
To I was going to get a burger. Were you?
So I don't know if I can have a cold burger.
And the other one. Yeah, OK.
Is there gluten in this? I'm not too sure to be honest.
I I don't know. I wouldn't risk it then I don't
want you dropping your your cocks.
So there's a certain amount of protein that I try to get every

(01:10:24):
day right for, for my body weight, right.
So I'm about like 170 grammes a cup.
Broccoli man, by the way. Good.
I'm I'm 170 grammes in weight. Sorry, grammes, I'm A170170.
Times you should put Ginsburg record back.

(01:10:47):
Another one it wouldn't be validated and man.
So I try to eat 100. And. 70 what you put me off now,
so I'm 170 lbs. So I try to eat at least 170
grammes of protein and probably in one of those burgers there's
maybe 35 or something like that.So protein for me helps me to

(01:11:11):
recover and I don't do a lot of carbs.
I do things like figs and dates and like apricots and.
What's the worst fitness thing people are doing at the minute
that you look at and despair, whether it's a trend, A dietary
type thing, Is there anything you look at and go, just
personal opinion, you're going we shouldn't be doing that.

(01:11:32):
Well, OK, I just, I don't like quick fixes.
I don't like, you know, before and afters a lot of the time and
because let's be honest, quick fixes do work for a short time,
but it's that continuity, it's that consistency.
You know, it's you could starve someone, you know, for for 12

(01:11:54):
weeks and, you know, slap a lot of time on them and, you know,
stand in a nice light and, you know, a before and after you're
going to look good. But I worry about what happens,
you know, after we 14 weeks 15 and do you put that back on in
spades? You know, I love CrossFit and
that that would be my I think the functionality in CrossFit is

(01:12:18):
great. Where do you stand on Ozempic?
On one journal? And again, it's obviously a
personal opinion. I'm not asking you for the
bottom line on it, but just whatit What do you think about?
I just worry what happens when you stop.
Yeah, You know, I probably don'tknow enough about it, but I I
believe nothing beats hard work.Nothing beats, you know, just

(01:12:43):
day. And I know it's, it's it's
boring. Yeah, yeah, but boring works,
you know, day in, day out, day in, week after week, month after
month. I'm just being organised.
Like I'm, I'm always organised. So I've got my stuff with me.
I've got my water, I've got my broccoli.
I'll always be organised. That's, that's another thing
again. I love fudge.

(01:13:05):
Pardon, what is that? Faij, you don't look at me like
that. What is Faij?
Faij is well, I I Faij. What is it?
It's yoghurt. It's natural yoghurt.
But I can't. You're supposed to ever like in

(01:13:27):
the comments. That's not how you pronounce it.
It's faije faije. It's sweeties or something, but
I call it flash. Do you know what flash is at
the? Start.
I did not know where it was going.
I didn't know what it. Was FAG with one of those?

(01:13:49):
With the we Scandinavian dot. I yeah, I think you can get it.
It's really expensive, right? It's about favour.
See the show? I can't have Berry either.
No dairy, no gluten. Right, OK.
It's a nightmare. That's a bummer.
Yeah, but you should read I don't know whether you might get
a dairy free Faiz. See as a, as a final thing, as

(01:14:17):
a, as a final thing, right. First of all, can you, can you
not come for lunch with us? Because are you very particular
on what you eat and on the menu there won't be.
I would love to come to lunch. I would love.
That I'm going to tell you what I have for breakfast every day
and how I've had for the last 10years, and I want you to assess
it for me. 10 years. Yeah, porridge says 4 spoonfuls

(01:14:42):
heat 6 at least bang into a pot.No microwaves here.
Pot, pot. Skate.
Unsweetened almond milk. Quality.
Mix that up. Get it on a 7 out of 10 heat.
Just start stirring that gently.Get the blue breeze in.
Oh good, mix it on the side. Big banana, cut it up.

(01:15:07):
Here's my technique. Cut it in small slices and then
in three length waist that goes into the bowl in preparation to
meet the porridge. So the banana goes in at the
bottom. Bananas in the bottom there so.
It's sort of melts and yes, becomes.
Yes, as it goes on at the consistency changes, so get it

(01:15:29):
cooked. The porridge, the almond milk
and the blueberries go on top ofthe banana.
Big thing of almond butter all mixed in every day in my life.
That's cool. What do you think of that for
breakfast? It's obviously working for you.
You know you, you know you're tight, you're wrapped.
I don't do oats. Right.

(01:15:50):
Or pasta or rice. But that's that's.
I'm a big rice guy. I love my whole grain rice.
But you're maybe going. I encourage the boys and the
players to eat those types of carbs, but I go with more.
So like the likes of dates, figsand pineapple.
I would eat a lot more fat. I'd probably eat about 120

(01:16:10):
grammes of fat. You know, avocados and the egg
yolks I love. All them but I don't eat enough
of it all. Probably there I got bought
dates for the first time but a month ago.
Brilliant. I like them.
They're they're really toffee and other gorgeous.
I used to eat a lot of oats and things like that, but I just try
to sort of maximise my carbs andminimise them in different

(01:16:33):
times. It's just we we techniques, but
for you she and that that's that's fantastic.
But I need to I need to bulk up a wee bit.
Do you know what protein you, how much you take in a day?
I don't know. Yeah, that's that's important.
Free Spirit. But if, if, if you want to go on
a on a sort of a journey, you need to sort of know where you
are at the start so that you can, you know, you can a lot

(01:16:55):
more like. Fish, chicken, Turkey, all that
stuff. I love it.
You probably are hitting. We're probably similar weight
actually. 74. I'm 74 kilos, but you're 6 feet
and I'm people ask me online. I, I, I don't mind asking or
sort of replying to, to messages, but when they just say
hate question mark that, that, that annoys me a wee bit.

(01:17:19):
It's. Not conversation.
No hate question mark and so I think most of my followers think
I'm 458. See the way everyone's like, oh,
you got to be on steroids, Here's the difference to me.
And you see, if I was you ever like, well, I think I'm on it
anyway. Boom, I get them in.
I'd be going for it. I like you think.
I'm doing it anyway. And I don't make any judgement
or you know, I don't judge anyone if they want to go down

(01:17:40):
that route. I just haven't went down that
route. And like I normally say, listen
mate, I'm not going to have thisbunts if I'm on gear and I get
asked about my I don't know why I can.
Nipples. Do you have big nails?
I didn't think it did. People think you do have tiny

(01:18:02):
nipples. People think that what do you
do? People think you've had worked
on. What do you do if your nipples?
I said mate. You do nipple work.
Come on. I don't know.
I don't know. I show you then tied to the back
of your car. My dad had steroids once.
Yeah. He did, mate.

(01:18:26):
Serious. Yeah, just once.
Like I think I have to save me. Let me give.
This you have to do it more thanonce.
For Oh no, I think yeah, but I think you didn't like the
process of doing it. I stick it in the eye.
No, I don't think that's how youtook it.
Oh, say right, right, right. OK, I get your.
Job I have to ask him if you're right, it'll be all right.

(01:18:48):
You're going to come for lunch with us.
You're we obviously put it in the description, but look, it's
it's a giant anyway, people willhave seen it, will know it.
Grindstone Foundation. Dot com.
Dot com. That's that's my website, but my
grindstone foundation is, is just my my Instagram.
But you get you get a bit more abuse on tech talk than you do.

(01:19:10):
Maybe it's young or something. I think it's younger people and
there's people flicking through more instead of going directly
for your thing because they likeit.
I'm thinking about trying to do a bit of a subscription and I
check. I think I do get asked a lot for
that, that other thing, you know?
Only fans, Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah, yeah. So I get asked what what's your

(01:19:33):
OF and it took me away telling what is this OF keep coming up.
But I think they're trying to come on the mainstream.
Right, right. But I don't know whether that
that sort of platform would would sort of work.
What was what's? What's your thoughts?
I think, I think it was massive.And then I haven't heard about
it in what phase a year. So I don't know if it's I don't

(01:19:57):
know. I don't think if you don't want
to sell your socks, I don't think you need any fun.
OK. Stay away from that.
But thank you so much for comingdown.
It was great to meet you becauseobviously I'm seeing your stuff,
but it was like, I want to meet this guy.
But hopefully I'm the same one that we scream and I'm here.
100% and I knew that would be the case.
I knew that would be the case. And there thank you for all the

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stuff that you brought as well. Well, my kids just think this is
the best. I've got so much kudos with my
kids now. So thanks for your your kindness
and your and your time and kind of say something.
Yeah. I'll see you on the next one.
Yes, Glenn, thank you so much. Thank you.