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December 9, 2025 102 mins

There's a darkness that's just become obvious and difficult to ignore as much as Stigall tries. It's feeding despair to young men in particular and driving dangerous ideologies and actions. Stigall has named it Revelation Theory and unpacks it in more detail today in response to shots fired at podcaster Tim Poole's home. The good news is President Trump is hitting the stump and bringing in real working voices of the country to tell the story of the economy and what he's doing to make affordability great again. EPA Administrator Lee Zeldin explains today one of the primary drivers of that economic rebound is taking the restraints off of energy development. Tennessee Senator Marsha Blackburn also joins the show to discuss an interesting issue with musicians/singers and broadcasters as well as Democrats' insistent focus on the drug boat strikes that poll very popular with voters. And Col. Kurt Schlicter with his brand new book and plenty of thoughts on the matter. If you don't know him, suffice it to say he's not shy.

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Let's start with some good news. You want you want
to laugh a little bit. This made me smile and

(03:04):
laugh a little bit, Paul, if you would please number
thirty when people come together.

Speaker 6 (03:10):
So I'm asking you to tune out those intrusive voices
that say she can't win because she's black, because she's
a woman, or because she's a democrat.

Speaker 1 (03:20):
If you believe women should.

Speaker 6 (03:21):
Be in all spasis, then I ask you to stand
with me.

Speaker 1 (03:27):
No, I don't think you can win because you're dumb.
But that's beside the point. That's Jasmine Crockett, Ladies and gentlemen,
the gift that keeps on giving, what a Christmas merry,
Christmas want and all this made me so happy yesterday
I shared it on x Jasmine Crockett has decided, because
she's been drawn out of her job in the House

(03:48):
of Representatives down there in Texas, she's decided she's going
to go the route of Beto o'rour. Now, do you
think she's gonna do better than Bette or worse than
Betto in a Senate run down there?

Speaker 7 (03:58):
Fast Eddie Better, She's gonna do better than.

Speaker 1 (04:01):
Beto because she's not a beta white male. She's got
that sassy streak, tough, I'm a badass black lady. Absolutely
you think that works? Yeah?

Speaker 8 (04:13):
They'll bring in They'll bring in Cardi B.

Speaker 7 (04:15):
They'll bring in Megan thee Stallion, They'll they'll have a
good party down there.

Speaker 1 (04:18):
I mean, you think you think Queen Bay will come
down and do a concert like she didn't for Kamala
she backle bridges.

Speaker 4 (04:25):
She might.

Speaker 8 (04:25):
I think Crocket's gonna do better than Beto. Yeah, for sure, give.

Speaker 1 (04:29):
Me number thirty one.

Speaker 9 (04:30):
Please pall.

Speaker 10 (04:33):
When Texas turns blue, it won't be because of any
one candidate, but because of each and every one of
you doing your part. Turning Texas blue is what I
want to talk to y'all about today. Now there are
those that say, ain't no way.

Speaker 6 (04:54):
We didn't try it at fifty kinds of ways. Let
me be clear, y'all ain't never tried at.

Speaker 1 (04:59):
The JC way.

Speaker 6 (05:02):
We we used to telling us what I can't do,
But they have no idea what Crockett's crew will do.
So I just want to be clear. Faul of hate
us in the back, listen up real loud. We gonna
get this thing done.

Speaker 11 (05:21):
Right.

Speaker 1 (05:22):
Isn't she some kind of boarding school kid from Saint
Louis if memory serves, when did she become the street
tough chick? From Texas head. Uh, she's she's an interloper.
She's not even from Texas? Is she?

Speaker 8 (05:34):
Actually? I don't believe, so I have to check that.
But no, you're right. She's very much a rich kid.

Speaker 7 (05:40):
She almost like the upbringing wise, I think like she
went to all the best schools and everything like that's
proven them.

Speaker 1 (05:44):
Yeah, there was. There was some big expose and I
forget who did it. Somebody did the background dig on
Jasmine Crockett a while back and found out she went
to some really snobby upper Cross defeat nose in the air,
rich suburban Saint Louis school, probably lily white to boot.
I've always fascinated, like, you know, look, if I ever

(06:06):
ran for senate. You know, let's just say I decided
to run for a Senate seat. I've always been fascinated
at the idea that I would just go to any
state of the Union and run like I would just
show you know, we just showed you a picture of Wilmington, Delaware,
that I just go to Delaware and run for Senate.
There's a presumptuousness to that. I mean, missus Clinton did
it in New York, I guess, and I know Mitt

(06:28):
did it in Massachusetts and now he lives in Utah.
There are countless other examples of it. Don't you feel
like there should be I'm not prepared to say a
constitutional requirement, but don't you feel like if you're going
to represent a state in the United States Senate, there
should be a requirement for number of years lived in
a state to do so? Ed Do you think that's unreasonable?

Speaker 7 (06:48):
No, to be perfectly honest, that's one of the reasons
Fetterman was so effective was the played to the Homer
thing over and over and over again.

Speaker 1 (06:57):
That's right.

Speaker 12 (06:57):
You can.

Speaker 1 (06:57):
You can criticize him for all you'd like. And that's
probably why Doctor Oz had such trouble too, because Doctor Oz,
even though yes, he had ties to Montgomery County, Pennsylvania,
he didn't everybody knew. He was a showbiz TV guy
who hadn't been in Pennsylvania for a very long time,
but he could claim roots. I don't know. I mean,
spending a dozen years in Pennsylvania, I suppose I've seen

(07:19):
enough in Pennsylvania where I could maybe credibly run there
as sort of my second home. But this would be
like me moving to New Mexico and running Can you
do that. I mean I would return to my birth
state of Missouri if I were living in New Mexico
and run for Senate in Missouri if I thought I

(07:42):
had the best shot. Why In fact, I would say
Jasmine Crockett has a better shot at going back home
to Missouri where she comes from and running against a
guy like Josh Holly or Eric Schmidt versus running against
those guys down in Texas. I was also trying to
remember what was the sorry doing, Google on you. I
should have looked this up before the show started. Could

(08:03):
you give me Beto O'Rourke's final state count versus in
his Senate runs. I think he took on Ted Cruz
two different times, if memory serves, maybe more than two.
I'm just curious how he ended up finishing, because you
think he'll she'll do better than Beto did. So look,
there's a reason she's running. I will watch her with

(08:25):
interest only because these people, ultimately the Democrat machine needs turnout.
They need excitement, they need enthusiasm aoc zoron Mamdani. They
calculate that she is one of those that interjects energy
and excitement into the base. She's probably gonna raise a
ton of money. I have every reason to believe she
does not expect to win. But watch her being a

(08:48):
big money raiser for Democrats, and remember that's where the
power seat is. It has nothing to do with winning elections.
Many times for Democrats, it's about who controls the money flow.
I've written about this at the hrump Socide before. Jasmine
Crockett is probably less interested in going to the United
States Senate. In fact, I think she knows she's not
going to go to the United States Senate. That's not
why she's doing this. She wants to be a media

(09:11):
figure and she wants to raise tons of money. She
wants to be a king maker. She's challenging AOC to
be the new star of the party. She likes doing
the cable news circuit. She likes being invited on the
talk shows. This keeps her a celebrity in perpetuity. Don't
you see who also raises a bunch of money makes
herself a star. She's going to try to go to
the Stacey Abrams route and she's going to try to

(09:33):
ride that gravy train until it peters out, and it
will peter out. You find any data on Beto's runs
I did.

Speaker 7 (09:41):
I hope she does worse than Beto Ted Cruz only one,
by fifty point nine percent of four point two million
votes to four point zero million votes Ted Cruiz over Beto.

Speaker 1 (09:54):
That was the most recent one Beto put up. Yes, yeah,
it was a close one. So you think she'll do
better than you think she could. She could mount an
insurrection stronger than Beto.

Speaker 7 (10:04):
I do, because she's got that whole star power contingent,
Like she'll bring out the CARDI b's that Megans, this
stallions like she's got the entire.

Speaker 8 (10:13):
She's got the entire apparatus in place to support her.

Speaker 1 (10:16):
Yeah, and of course, don't forget there's also something very
interesting going on down there with Cornan. Remember there is
a challenger to Cornan right now. We've interviewed at least
one of them. I don't know if there's more than one.
I haven't been following it closely, but there's gonna be
a primary fight to get that Republican nomination. Cornyn, you know,

(10:36):
obviously has the money advantage. But this is going to
be a really interesting one. So I could be wrong.
Maybe they look at Betto as you maybe correctly calculated it,
and she has more firepower and more. She certainly has
more testosterone than Betto, absolutely, so maybe they calculate she
could legitimately win against a wounded corn who doesn't exactly
excite the base down there. I guess I could hear

(10:59):
the case, Mae.

Speaker 8 (11:00):
That would be a big story.

Speaker 7 (11:01):
Oh my horrible story, but big one.

Speaker 1 (11:05):
Senator Crockett from Texas.

Speaker 8 (11:09):
This would be the year.

Speaker 1 (11:11):
Sadly I don't speaking of Yeah, I know, I know,
and that's why I think President Trump is hitting the
campaign trail. Susie Wiles was a guest on a program
called The Mom View The Moms for Liberty Ladies hosted
Susie Wiles, the chief of staff to President Trump. She
made some news yesterday when she announced that President Trump

(11:34):
was in fact going to be going out and stumping
for candidates this coming year. Number thirty five.

Speaker 13 (11:40):
We're going to put them on the campaign trail too.
Typically just a little bit of campaign speak, if I may. Yeah, Typically,
you in the midterms, it's not about who's sitting at
the White House's you localize the election, you and you
keep the federal officials out of it. We're actually going
to turn that on its head good and put them
on the ballot because so many of those low propensity

(12:03):
voters are Trump voters. Yes they are, and we saw
a wee could go Tuesday. What happens when he's not
on the ballot and not active. So I haven't quite
broken it to him yet, but he's going to campaign
like it's twenty twenty four again for all these people
that he helps. He doesn't help everybody, but for those
he does, he's a difference maker. And he's certainly a

(12:23):
turnout machine. So the midterms will be very important to us.
He'll work very hard to keep the maternity.

Speaker 3 (12:31):
We can't afford to have castalled now.

Speaker 13 (12:34):
And one of the things I keep telling people, and okay,
I'm sure going to talk politics.

Speaker 9 (12:37):
I gotta talk this, all right, I am.

Speaker 1 (12:39):
That's good enough, but not to cut the ladies off
there at the mom view. That's Mom's for America. By
the way, my apologies Moms for America had Susie Wiles there.
He's going to hit the trail. In fact, the Washington
Times confirms this also Trump hitting the road to gain
upper hand on the affordability debate. So let's take somebody
like Jasmine Crockett versus Donald Trump on the campaign trail
next year. Who you got ed? You still like Trump's

(13:01):
star power? A jasmine coming on?

Speaker 8 (13:03):
I do? But Corning, It's Corning, man. It's a tough one.

Speaker 1 (13:06):
Yeah. More in a moment. Merry Christmas. So Trump is
going to hit the road here to gain the upper
hand on affordability, says The Washington Times. Mister Trump says
Democrats are using the affordability mantra to play down his
progress in bringing down prices that sword under the Biden administration.

(13:27):
Yet economic worries are unmistakable and unshakable as mister Trump
tries to upend trade and reshape the economy. There was
big news yesterday on gasoline specifically, did you see it?
Energy prices are going to be one of the Aaron
maguire told us this yesterday, and mondays with McGuire, energy
prices are going to be politically one of the things

(13:49):
people notice first. It's also going to be the thing
that impacts much of what you see at the store.
What we know is when fuel prices are high, people
that delivered goods to market physical goods to market. Built
in those prices often are fuel costs. If transportation folks
know that their fuel costs are coming down, and they

(14:11):
can count on that for a while. Odds are what
you could start to see money coming down and off
the prices of things that are built in to transport,
and that could be a very very good thing. The
nation's average gas price now has fallen five cents over
the last week and stands at two ninety per gallon.

(14:31):
That's a national average, and that figures in with you
poor people that live under the Newsome regime and the
gas taxes of California that still are over five. You know,
every time I say gas prices have come down, people
in California go ours. There still five to sixty something
out here, And I'm like, well, yeah, but you're I'm
talking about national average. You live in a healthscape under

(14:51):
Democrat rule and Gavin Newsom, so your gas taxes in
states like California, that's not true in places like many
places in the Midwest. You know, in Texas. I just
saw it dip below two dollars this weekend. I can't
remember where I saw that, but somebody, in fact, I think,
am I making this up? I don't want to overly exaggerate,

(15:12):
but I feel like I saw somebody dip down to
like a dollar eighty something down in Texas over the
weekend that I might be misremembering that, but I know
it dropped below two dollars in some parts of Texas.
The national average is down seventeen cents from just a
month ago and is seven cents per gallon lower than
a year ago. The national average price of diesel, and

(15:34):
this is the biggie, this is the one diesel has
fallen five cents in the last week and stands at
three dollars and sixty seven cents per gallon. That's again,
national average gas price is continuing to decline in most
states in the last week. So President Trump is going
to go out there and become the explainer on affordability.
He's got to be careful, though, and this is one

(15:56):
of those things that President Trump does very very well.
As long as he leans into understanding where people are
and what people's perceptions are, he can't get prickly. And
in fact, in just a minute, I'm going to play
for you a farmer who came and visited him and
told a great personal story. Trump needs to surround himself
with real people and real stories. I know he will.

(16:16):
I know his messaging team will more in a minute. Okay,
President Trump is on the campaign trail. I guess, effectively,
if you want to look at it that way, you know,
I guess we're kind of unofficially kicking off midterm campaign season.
This is I can't remember the last time he went
out and made a campaign stump stop like he's about

(16:39):
to make in Pennsylvania, which interestingly, he chose Pennsylvania to
make this kind of first stop where he's going to
talk affordability. So what does this tell you? Is this
the White House taking a bit of a heel turn here?
President Trump going to ditch the talk of the affordability
thing being a hoax and try something different. Now, this
seems to be a more nimble White House in every way.

(17:04):
I think they've always messaged well. I think Besstt was
out there over the weekend. We talked about this yesterday,
pretty frustrated. He said, we're not going to say that
Americans don't know what they're feeling. We've been making a
lot of gains, but we understand people don't feel great.
So this has gotten through to Donald Trump. Do you
expect in Pennsylvania, ed, He's gonna come out there and
call affordability hoax or do you think they've encouraged him

(17:26):
to soften that and change his tune a little bit.

Speaker 7 (17:28):
I hope they've encouraged him to soften that and changes
to him. But if it's if he's on the stump
and he's rolling, I mean, I think is quick yesterday,
I think even as recent as is when he said
affordability not was a hoax, but that the.

Speaker 8 (17:43):
Democrats just you know, made it up. So I don't know,
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (17:46):
It's tough one. He remember Scott Adams, he's a guy
that likes to study the use of words. Scott Adams'
theory is Donald Trump using isolating this word affordability and
kind of volleying it right back at them is kind
of taking the power out of it, forcing the discussion.
I actually maintain it's very similar to this. Now if
Scott Adams is right about that, and I can't, I

(18:07):
don't know. I'll defer to mister Adams on that, And
I guess time will tell whether President Trump is taking
the power and the sting out of that affordability word
by calling it a hoax and balling it back in
the Democrats' faces. But you know one way. I think
that he is to great effect. I just heard this morning.
I won't forget my place. But it just occurred to me.

(18:28):
I heard a report this morning that President Trump said
that the double taps, they're calling it the second strikes
on drug boats, that the press is requesting video to see.
President Trump initially said, whatever if you want to see it,
I don't care. I have nothing to hide. Whatever you want.
Now he's saying, eh, you know what, never mind, I

(18:50):
don't think I'm going to release that now. You know
immediately what I thought when I heard that. Now, of
course the news anchor said, what are they hiding? What
is President backtracking?

Speaker 11 (19:00):
Now?

Speaker 1 (19:01):
He said we were going to be able to see
any video we wanted to. Now he's backtracking. I thought,
you idiots. Do you not understand this game by now?
Have you seen the polling on this. I won't forget
my place on affordability, I promise the Harvard Harris pole
that just came out in the last couple of days

(19:22):
on American support or opposition of targeting drug smugglers in
open waters to our south, it's a sixty forty issue,
fifty eight to forty two, So call it a sixty
forty issue, much like taking young children and trying to

(19:42):
transition their gender that's an eighty twenty issue. There are
oh or getting rid of illegals breaking into the country
who also traffic in children, drugs, or beat their wives.
Most Americans don't have a lot of sympathy for characters
like these. Democrats like to take them out for cocktails.
So the Abrago Garcia thing blew up in their face.

(20:03):
And now they're dying on the hill of standing with
drug smugglers and they keep having these hearings and they
think they're scoring big points with these hearings. And now
there's more tape out there, and we want to see it,
and Trump says, yeah, I don't think I'm gonna let
you see it. Now, what are you hiding? I was
he is truly rode runner to the coyote. These morons

(20:26):
keep thinking they're setting a trap and then he bdbdb
and you know, takes off and the boulder comes and
or the ACME thing kaboom in the Democrats' faces. So
they're gonna scream and yell for another week heading into
the holidays about the drug boat. Fast Eddie. Now, I
just told you. It's a sixty forty issue, and Trump
has masterfully got them screaming about the drug boat for

(20:49):
another day, maybe another two or three or four days.

Speaker 8 (20:54):
I no, I mean, I love this, I love everything
about it.

Speaker 1 (21:00):
What they're not talking about is affordability. All of a sudden,
now they're talking about drug boats, and again if that's
if that's what they want to do. This is where
Trump is quite smart, and I maintain he's saying, I'm
not going to let you see the video. He wants
people to start fighting about release of a video of
him blowing up drug smugglers. He wants do you understand

(21:21):
how stupid that he is? And Democrats are going to
go for it. They think they've got a thing here,
and it's a sixty forty issue. So anyway, I'm sorry.
I don't mean to go off on that other than
to make the point Democrats are going to try to
die on this hill. They can't stay focused. If I
were Democrats, not that I'm counseling them or are they
listening to me, I'd stay with the affordability thing. It

(21:42):
clearly irks Trump. He didn't like it, which is why
he's loading up the air force one, and he's headed
to Pennsylvania to start addressing this, and I say great,
He's going to do great with this too. So he's
got them chasing their tails over there on the drug
boat thing, and he's going to hit the Trump the trail.
He invited a farmer to the White House yesterday to

(22:04):
discuss affordability in some ways in which he's trying to
help the farming community. Let's start with number twenty five
and the Democrats affordability miss. He says they inherited to
begin with.

Speaker 14 (22:15):
When gasoline comes down everything. It's such a big category
that when gasoline comes down, sort of everything sort of follows.
But we inherited a mess affordability. But you can call
it affordability or anything you want. But the Democrats caused
the affordability problem, and we're the ones that are fixing it.
So it's a very simple statement. They it, we're fixing it.

(22:39):
And they have a tendency to just say this election
is based on affordability, and nobody questions him, John, you know,
nobody says, well, what do you mean by that? But
they just say the word. They never said anything else
because they caused the problem.

Speaker 9 (22:54):
But we're fixing the problem.

Speaker 1 (22:57):
Okay, so this lends credibility to the sky. Adams point
that he's they're trying to take this word back and
they're going to keep forcing the issue. Note that he
referenced the election, so it's interesting his mind is already
in election mode. They are clearly already thinking about midterms.
We played for you Susie Wiles, who said he's going
to hit the stump. So he's engaged, and I think

(23:20):
Adams is probably right here. They think that they can
take this word back and they can force the discussion
of affordability, and when that discussion happens, it's going to
force a discussion on why are things such a mess?
Is it Trump? What caused us to get here?

Speaker 9 (23:35):
Now?

Speaker 1 (23:35):
I don't know. People will often just blame whoever's in
charge for their financial troubles if in fact they're having them.
But President Trump invited a farmer to the White House
to explain, Yeah, it's tough, but I actually have faith
the guy is fixing it. This was an interesting moment yesterday.
Listen to number twenty six.

Speaker 15 (23:56):
I lost my grandfather and our hard hand on thousand
and two in a farming accident, and he instilled in
me at an early age to love the land, to
take pride in what we do.

Speaker 9 (24:11):
Is that a machine accident.

Speaker 15 (24:12):
It was a machine accident, and it gets in your
blood to farm.

Speaker 9 (24:18):
It's in our blood. Despite what happened. I want my
two year old to farm.

Speaker 15 (24:25):
I want my four month old daughter to have an opportunity.

Speaker 9 (24:29):
And what you're doing here in DC is working.

Speaker 15 (24:35):
You have a backbone to stand up to other countries
for trade. You're getting things done, tax provisions. I'll be
able to potentially pass on a farm to my children
because of you.

Speaker 9 (24:49):
Ethanol, you're working for.

Speaker 15 (24:50):
Ethanol, trying to get E fifteen year round. We're dealing
with California Prop.

Speaker 9 (24:58):
Twelve. Let's continue your work on that.

Speaker 15 (25:01):
I think we can have a lot of domestic product
used here in the country and we can keep America first.

Speaker 9 (25:08):
And you're good at that. That is that is who
you are.

Speaker 15 (25:11):
And if we keep that E fifteen you could have
this bigg as fifteen as a big deal.

Speaker 9 (25:16):
E fifteen is a great deal year round. Okay, you
could have the biggest right.

Speaker 1 (25:20):
So, and this went on for a bit, but here's
the brilliance in this. This is where President Trump's instincts
are so good, and this is what got him to
the White House the first time and now a second time.
He brings up real people, leading real lives, living the
real economy, living the real business decisions that he is
making at the executive level right now, particularly on items

(25:42):
like trade. Trump to send twelve billion dollar tariff revenue
to farmers. So President Trump is sending a bit of
a bandage here, using tariff money to do it for
farmers while he turns the screws to other countries to
force their hand to take more of our agricultural products.
And what does he do. He brings in a real
life farmer to explain why. I get it. We get

(26:04):
what you're doing. It is working. We have faith in you.
We're with you. Farming's in our veins. I want to
pass it on to my kid, and I'm here and
I'm with you. That is a real guy from the
real agricultural sector sitting next to Trump telling the country
in front of the press and everybody, We're with you.
This is what Trump does better than anybody. And I
will almost bet you his stop in Pennsylvania is going

(26:28):
to feature Pennsylvanian standing alongside of him telling him. I
know you're fighting. I know right now things look a
little tough, but we're with you. We know what you're
doing is working. It's working well. Dave Ramsey, our buddy
who hosts you know, well everybody knows Dave Ramsey, the
bunny man. Dave said yesterday on his show, I'll have

(26:48):
this for you in a minute. He and if ever
there was somebody who's paying attention to people and affordability,
it's Dave Ramsey. He says that it's largely a media
fiction to begin with. Here's that clip of Dave Ramsey
I was mentioned, and give me number twenty eight. Here
Paul saying that he on this affordability issue. He doesn't
hear it from his own callers. And these are people
who are usually up in up to their eyeballs in debt.

Speaker 16 (27:11):
Listen, prustrates are down and gas prices are down below
three dollars in most places.

Speaker 1 (27:18):
The economy seems to be.

Speaker 16 (27:19):
The people were talking to are really not having huge,
serious affordability problems. There's a lot of talking heads, a
lot of squawking about that, but most of that's political.

Speaker 1 (27:31):
Now, I you know, Ramsey's not a guy who FIBs
about this stuff. He's usually a straight shooter, so I
have no reason to doubt Dave if that's his assessment.
Like I said, all he does is talk to is.
These are his words broke people. So he says that
it's largely exaggerated. Let me go out to Colorado talk
to Steve, who's been waiting patiently. Hey Steve, Merry Christmas,

(27:53):
thanks for calling.

Speaker 14 (27:54):
Hi.

Speaker 17 (27:55):
Hey Chris, good morning, Good morning. So yeah, I was
telling your producer and I've been driving in over a
decade now commercial and I don't think i've ever seen, honestly,
even in this first term, I don't even know if
diesel hit. I just paid two ninety nine gallon for diesel?

Speaker 1 (28:17):
Is that good?

Speaker 17 (28:17):
Colorado? That's insane. It was so bad during the Biden
Biden years that our company limited us to only two
different gas companies in the entire state in order to
try and control prices.

Speaker 1 (28:33):
Wow. Yeah, they had they had a contract with a
certain provider for fuel exactly, and.

Speaker 17 (28:42):
It really it really affected our and honestly, it drove
us all crazy because we could no longer just go
to where it was convenient. We'd have to go to
where a lot of the you know, cross country, fifty
three foot trailers going in where we'd sit and wait,
you know, thirty and it's thirty five minutes before we'd
even get to a fuel tank. So yeah, it's amazing

(29:06):
what President Trump is doing. I've been backing, remember since
he came down the Golden Escalator.

Speaker 1 (29:12):
So you guys in trucking by and large, that is
that your sense of it? With others that haul that
they're feeling that same result.

Speaker 17 (29:21):
I think they definitely will because I would see a
lot of the guys in the big fifty threes. I
mean you can just see it in their face back
in the day, how much you know, dumping over a
thousand dollars to fill their tank.

Speaker 1 (29:37):
And make no mistakes, Scott, that that does I mean,
and I'm not making you have to be a villain,
it's just math. It's business that does add to costs
of the things that you're hauling. I mean that that
gets passed on to your customer because it has to.
You can't just absorb that right.

Speaker 17 (29:53):
Absolutely, And that's where I'm wondering. I don't know if
you've heard anything. I'm hoping that the Trump administrators is
going to start getting on top of the big grocery
chains and putting some pressure on them. Very interesting, like
you covered it the other day. You know, you don't
necessarily ever see prices go down, yep.

Speaker 1 (30:13):
But yeah, well listen, Steve, I'll tell you one thing
we are. You know, we're going to talk with the
EPA administrator today about energy and what you just brought up.
And thank you for the perspective. As as far as
agriculture goes, you know, President Trump taking some of this
tariff money, trying to at least help the farmers, the
grocery stores and producers of meat. We know that he

(30:36):
is actually having He's got DOJ looking into the big
four meat packing companies who also packed chicken and pork.
He's investigating them right now from monopolistic practices. So we'll see.
I do think there's some movement there. I can't confirm
exactly what, but yeah, we'll continue to watch it. And
I appreciate the perspective. That's really good news. I love

(30:58):
to hear that. Can you imagine a thousand dollars to
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(37:27):
as my three times a week newsletter, The Harumf Society,
where yesterday I continued to talk about something that I
brought up I think on this show last week. I
forget sometimes whether I brought it up exclusively to Hrrumfer's
or whether I brought it up here or both. Revelation addiction,
and it is something that is if you're on social media,

(37:49):
and again I stipulate if you're not, or you don't
spend a ton of time on social media, even Harrumfers
who I surveyed and I asked, are you following all
of this personality driven back and forth between podcasters and
digital streamers whose names you know, some people love it
when you name names because they like the food fight.

(38:09):
They're addicted to the food fight. They want the food fight, revelation, addiction.
There is a cottage industry growing by leaps and bounds.
It just is creating their own little podcast Netflix series.
Tune in to the next episode and find out whether

(38:33):
she is accusing her or him of this or that.
Find out tomorrow if he is sitting with him for
this interview, and then they can join force. And you
know what it is. It's WWE. I mean Fasted I
said last week. This world that's being created out there
in the podcast space, and it's smart. I'm actually not

(38:54):
maligning it. It's very very smart. They're creating fan fiction drama.
This is exactly what the WWE storyline is. It's just
now in podcast and digital streaming form.

Speaker 7 (39:06):
Oh absolutely, yes, you could see it see it from
downtown too, especially in the headlines.

Speaker 1 (39:12):
But some people take it very seriously. Yes, they live
it and they're getting emotional about it. And it leads
to people like Tim Poole's home being shot at Ed
and This is where it's starting to get very, very troubling,
and why I've talked about this being an addiction that
becomes a problem like most addictions do. Tim Poole is
a big, big fish in the digital download space, in

(39:35):
the streaming space, in the podcast space. He's been on
this show a couple of times. I think I don't
know him. He's come out swinging at people like Candice Owens.
And as such, last weekend or late last week, in
the dark of night, somebody comes along and takes physical

(39:57):
gunshots to his house. Give me number thirte.

Speaker 9 (40:03):
So where does that leave us.

Speaker 4 (40:06):
We have two weeks left in the year before we
go on our Christmas hiatus. You know, I'm not a
big fan of any kind of hiatus. I would prefer
just to work. But it is taxing. It is grueling,
of course, and there's a lot of infrastructure here that
requires me to work all day every day, Monday to Friday,

(40:28):
with some extra work on the weekends, usually meetings. And
I'm probably gonna have a stroke. My uh, my house
is actually pretty good. My blood pressure is great, my
heart right resting heart rate is actually around you know,
forty five.

Speaker 1 (40:45):
I exercise quite a bit.

Speaker 4 (40:46):
Haven't been able to skate in the past month or
two the holidays, and you know, but we have to
have these conversations. And I have been with thee our
contractors people work with.

Speaker 1 (41:01):
Yeah, and so he went on to talk about why
he may just hang it up, I mean, because his
family's being shot at. Told you yesterday, there's a new
survey out there that says words, young people think words
are violence. And as such, if you think that, what
must you do? You're gonna have to take matters into
your own hands, right, stop the violence with violence. Tim

(41:25):
Poole speaks for a living that's all just like me.
But there are people that are now becoming so slavishly
loyal to this Netflix drama, this fakery, this wrestling match
that's playing out, this fictitious world that people like Candice
Owens are building. So I want to just put the
truth up front. There is a very new spiritual and

(41:46):
psychological sickness gripping particularly American young men, and I've named
it revelation addiction, and it's pulling them toward very destructive
moments fueled by the very same poisonous route. And that's envy.
And if you were reading my Harump Society letter last week.

(42:08):
You know my Thanksgiving column I wrote about my nineteen
year old son, a thoughtful, skeptical, genuinely critical thinker, who
looked up at me during breakfast to make conversation and said,
very seriously, so, Dad, what do you think about the Jews?

(42:31):
And not in hostility, not in confusion. But it's because
every young man with a phone is being hit from
all sides by conspiracy grifters and antisemitic tropes and bitterness
and influencers whatever that word means, who profit by keeping
them angry all the time, so angry that apparently they'll
pick up a gun and shoot it at a guy's

(42:52):
house if he speaks out against it. I'm mindful of
that revelation addiction. I've been watching this for years. It's
the compulsive hunt for the next secret truth, the next expose,
the next villain supposedly responsible for your problems. It isn't stupidity, folks,

(43:15):
It's spiritually weaponized anger. It keeps young men scrolling for vindication,
not wisdom. It rewards intensity over accuracy, it rewards outrage
over understanding, and if it's left untreated, revelation addiction becomes

(43:37):
the gateway drug to the two movements now competing for
the souls of particularly young men in this country, socialism
on the left, the Zaronmandami types, and then the grievance
grifters who claim to be on the right, though I
don't really know that they are necessarily and you know
their names. I'm not going to do it, but they
become a booming cottage industry of rage pedaling without solutions.

(44:01):
And by the way, there's some new evidence to suggest
at least one of them is in fact being artificially
propped up and shopped by foreign entities entirely online. But
these two forces pretend to hate each other, you know,
but they're preaching the same sermon. Some of these people
that are supposedly on the right and the Zoramandami types,
they're really not at odds. They say the same thing.

(44:22):
You've been wronged, someone stole what should have been yours,
and you should be pissed about it, and we should
all pick take up arms, maybe literally, And that's called envy.
The Bible calls it covetousness, psychology calls it resentment, politics
calls it a movement. Whatever you want to label it,
it is destructive. It does nothing but destroy. The left

(44:45):
weaponizes envy by moralizing mediocrity. Success, of course, is exploitation.
Achievement is oppression, Inequality is injustice. They don't just pit
the poor against the rich. They drag everyone toward the
same resentful middle. The grievance grifters. They weaponize envy inward

(45:12):
against our own allies, against Jewish people, against conservatives, against
anyone who's had success, or anyone that's had a modicum
of respect. It's divisive. It doesn't build up, it doesn't
offer solutions. I've told you that whereas free markets do
the opposite. They take the natural desire to improve your

(45:33):
life and redeem it, work, build, create. None of that
is going on with the grievance grifters. Socialism, of course,
collapses because it feeds envy. The grifters corrode the right
for the very same reason. Free enterprise survives because it

(45:55):
redirects human longing toward ownership and responsible and growth. And
that's why this is the third, fourth, fifth time I'm
addressing this because for the first time, socialism and fringe
influencers supposedly on our side are feeding off the same

(46:17):
spiritual poison in an attempt to fracture these young men
who have recently voted Trump. By the way revelation addiction,
it primes this group for socialism because both offer the
same counterfeit comfort. You're a victim, someone else's to blame,

(46:39):
and your salvation comes from exposing or punishing the villain.
One offers the thrill of hidden knowledge. The other, of course,
offers the thrill of state revenge getting even. Neither requires
any responsibility, neither produces anything, and of course both hollow

(46:59):
out a generation starving for purpose. I have more on
this in a minute. Hang on, just to close the
loop on my thoughts here, Tim Poole, a podcaster who's
pretty well liked and well known and built a hell
of a following, His home was shot at over the weekend.

(47:21):
And the only thing that Tim Poole's done differently is
dare speak out about Candace Owens. And it struck me
again how dangerous it is that there are people listening
to that woman that are now driven to pick up
a gun and shoot at Tim Poole's house because he
says he thinks she's full of excrement. So this is

(47:44):
no longer about the left anymore. This is about some
who claim to be on what I thought was the right.
I don't know what you call Candace anymore. I don't
know if you can call her a conservative. I think
she feeds revelation addiction. It primes young men, and she's
not alone, by the way. It is an industry now.

(48:04):
It primes young men for socialism, just the same as
leftists who outright own it and say that's what they
believe in command and control economies, because both offer that
very same lie. You're a victim and someone else's to blame,
and the only thing we can do about it is
punish the villain who made you the victim. Again, it

(48:27):
doesn't build anyone up. It doesn't create anything. It just
offers the thrill or the hit of being in on
the inside and here's the real truth, and here's what
they're not telling you. It also offers the thrill of
getting revenge on people, but it doesn't require any kind
of responsibility whatsoever and produces absolutely nothing. And I understand

(48:48):
it's appeal particularly to young men, because you've got a
generation starving for purpose. They've been hollowed out in many ways,
and I get it. Look at what these young men
in particular are caring around with them inflation, student debt,
no path to homeownership. They've been humiliated culturally, they were

(49:09):
lied to and their childhoods robbed during COVID institutions to
numerous account have failed them and betrayed them. And they're
yearning for a desperate, desperate sense of meaning and purpose,
which many of them are getting to church and amen
for that. But this anger, if it doesn't have an outlet,

(49:32):
this revelation addiction, as I call it, it supplies an
outlet the next conspiracy or the next villain, or the
next target like Tim Poole, and the grifters line up
to feed the algorithm. So I returned to the theme
of envy, not as an economic point but as a
spiritual diagnosis. Here, socialism weaponizes envy, and the grifters monetize envy.

(50:01):
Free markets redirect envy into creating something, building something, making something.
The Stigall Plan, if I may rather brilliant look it up.
I've written about it not because it's policy, though it is,
but because it's the opposite spirit of socialism and the
grifter economy. It says to young Americans, you don't need

(50:24):
to burn anything down. You don't need to resent successful people.
You don't need conspiracies to feel alive. You can build,
you can own, you can prosper. It turns envy into
partnership and resentment into opportunity and ownership. It offers something addiction, revelation.

(50:50):
Addiction never will a real future is ornament. It's the
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(51:12):
Colonel Hoy, congratulations on yet another huge success. It drops today.

Speaker 3 (51:18):
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Speaker 1 (51:26):
I really I have to say, yeah, you could have.

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You speak the lingo of the of the those Venezuelan
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to get into that in a minute. But first of
all nine of these, now you write books like most
other guys do laundry, like you really, you can crank
out a good book quick, then.

Speaker 9 (52:01):
Don't do laundry. What are you a char woman?

Speaker 3 (52:07):
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Well, I just I guess I was hoping, So maybe
all right, shower or shade brush teeth to go with it.
My point is, you do it fast. You write a
book fast. You write the damn books fast. You've written
nine of the damn books. That's my point. I go
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(52:33):
right in?

Speaker 3 (52:35):
But I actually at the end, you're actually satisfied with
my climax.

Speaker 1 (52:42):
So here's the thing. If people have, if books we have,
we have the worst delay. This is like you're on
the moon and I'm on Neptune and we're trying to
communicate like it's nineteen sixty. I'm not entirely sure why
you can't hear me. I can't hear you. This will
be a long conversations. Yeah, so tell the people why

(53:04):
they should order your ninth installment, colonel.

Speaker 3 (53:08):
Because it's about as much fun as our discussion here.
I mean, for the listener. What Andrew Breitbart was the
guy who dragged me into this thing, right. I thought
I was out, but he kept pulling me back in,
and he said, we got to make our own culture.

Speaker 9 (53:25):
So let's make our own culture. Right. I decided. You know,
I was.

Speaker 3 (53:28):
Reading books by short never Trump writers, and I was like,
these spine novels are boring. It's the same thing all
the time, and I find them tiresome and I would
throw them across my house. And then I said, well,
why don't I write one that I'd like to read?
And I ended up writing People's Republic, which is right
behind me. That's the first of the nine introducing Kelly Turnbull.

(53:52):
And he likes to shoot people, and he likes to
encounter situations that are either intriguing, interesting, or his hilarious,
and so there's a lot of laughs. There's occasional cameos
from my pals. I think you've shown up in a couple.
I don't think you show up in Panama Read. But
Larry O'Connor does in a very, uh, very interesting way.

(54:14):
Dennis Miller. Remember the time we had our little chat
with Dennis Miller.

Speaker 1 (54:18):
I do that was, Yeah, he called you hefty.

Speaker 9 (54:28):
He's like a on that interview.

Speaker 1 (54:29):
By the way. I you know, I've lost a substantial
around of wait since we had that conversation. I'd like
to have you.

Speaker 9 (54:35):
Look at it now.

Speaker 1 (54:36):
Thank you, thank you.

Speaker 9 (54:37):
You look like here now you look like you have
a day on a billboard.

Speaker 3 (54:41):
Dennis Miller is one of my favorite big money if as.

Speaker 1 (54:45):
Dennis Miller is one of my favorite people ever. And
we I don't even know it was during COVID. I'm
not sure, but it's it's so, it's Larry O'Connor and
it's Colonel Kurt Schlichter and me, and we're all on
a zoom and Dennis Miller joins us. I'm not entirely
sure how that came to pass, but the four of
us are on a zoom, and he's he loves Kurt,
He's seen Kurt's work, He's read Kurt's work, he's he's

(55:05):
all enthralled with Kurt. He's clearly there for Kurt, maybe Larry,
and then me, who's probably the biggest fan of his
since I've been a child, I've just nothing excites me
more than to talk to him. And he finally acknowledges
me by saying, Wow, aren't you fat? That was the
sum total of that conversation. I'm not entirely sure why,

(55:26):
but I was there and along for the ride. It
was fantastic.

Speaker 3 (55:30):
I don't think it was quite that harsh, but it was.
He does he does appear in this book as the
host of the Dennis Miller Mysteries.

Speaker 9 (55:41):
Oh that's what is he doing?

Speaker 1 (55:43):
This about Dennis Miller? But I was literally thinking, what
is he doing? Have you spoken with him lately? Where
is he?

Speaker 3 (55:49):
Like?

Speaker 9 (55:50):
Every once in a while he sending I'm going to
send an email. I've got to tell him about this
little hit.

Speaker 3 (55:54):
At one point, he's the Dennis Miller hit Mysteries and
Kelly Turnmole, the hero is watching ands Miller says to
his chief played by Bernie Casey, the third of course, Hey,
you've given me a case where my roster of subjects
is shorter than the track list on Greatest Hits of
Starland Vocal BANDA.

Speaker 1 (56:18):
Let's Dana Carvey doing Dennis Miller is one of my
favorite impressions ever.

Speaker 8 (56:22):
Colonel Ritch Schlichter is with us.

Speaker 1 (56:23):
He has written a brand new book called Panama Red.
It is out today. It just dropped. It's the ninth
installment and is Kelly Turnbull series. All right, colonel the
double tap on the drug boat, you stand where I'm
for it.

Speaker 3 (56:40):
I'm gonna, you know, call me crazy. I'm going to
take sides against the people bringing poison into our country.
And I was having a thought, Yeah, you knew, I
was a lawyer for thirty years and I was a
colonel for what twenty seven, so I don't know.

Speaker 9 (56:54):
I'm ha a glancing familiarity with his stuff.

Speaker 3 (56:57):
And I came up with a thought X size for
all the people going, you're not allowed to blow up
people bringing poison into your country.

Speaker 9 (57:05):
And I thought, well, that's an interesting thought.

Speaker 3 (57:08):
Where would you stand on blowing up a boat full
of mustard gas it's also known as HD. I was
a chemical warfare office. Or I'll give you a spoiler.
Mustard gas very bad. Okay, you don't want anything to
do with it, all right, it's no, thank you. It's
like you or me on a conservative cruise. You don't

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want that. So could you blow that boat up? And
I'm hoping our Democrat friends would say, why no, you
need to convene a.

Speaker 9 (57:40):
Court of law to analyze the.

Speaker 18 (57:42):
Modalities of the Geneva Conventions and the loved On conflict
which I am now an expert on, having been an
expert on COVID during our epidemiology during COVID and terraffs
during economics during the teriff, then I am now an.

Speaker 9 (57:58):
Expert on the law of war, and I would why
would declare no, you can't please take that position.

Speaker 3 (58:04):
Please, but you know, the difference between mustard gas and
the poisons that the drug tailers are bringing in is
that mustard gas is killed exactly zero Americans in the
last year, and a fentanyl and cocaine, yes, cocaine has
killed people killed nearly one hundred thousand. So if we're

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doing you know, if you want to analyze it, if
you want to rationally discuss the situation, bombs away. If
you're a sissy fenboy who'd rather Americans die then drug
dealers die, well, I'm sure you're vote for Kamala Harris.

Speaker 1 (58:44):
So just so I'm clear, because I don't I'm with
you one hundred percent. I don't feel even a little
bit sorry for drug runners at c But Monny, just
as a literal military matter, those in charge have already
said Pete heggsith one hundred percent didn't tell us any
such thing. So whatever that means. Then it's on what

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immediate leadership, whether it's a problem or whether it's not.
They're saying Hexith didn't give any such order, So what's
that mean.

Speaker 3 (59:14):
Well, the commander is responsible for anything he does or doesn't.
It doesn't matter if he has a jag there or not.
He is responsible. He didn't do the commander did not
do anything wrong. The commander wrought again him medal, a
high five. And if he singled to a brand of
Stewardess's to hang in a hot club.

Speaker 1 (59:33):
Well, now that's my next question. Here's my next question.
So he's the commander and he decides to take those
two guys bobbing around that we didn't hit, take them
out as well, in your view or literally in terms
of military code of conduct, there's nothing wrong with that
as you read it or understand it.

Speaker 3 (59:51):
Oh, I could care less. I hear people citing the
Geneva Conventions. Geneva conventions. Are there are conventions? It's not
the Geneva Convention. So my question is, well, which one
are you talking about?

Speaker 9 (01:00:02):
Which one do you think?

Speaker 3 (01:00:04):
And then I asked, well, why do you think it's applicable?
What's the nation state that these guys belong to as
uniformed combatants as opposed to illegal combatants who get almost
no rights that the reports to bind us, at which
point they're they kind of look around or I shift,
and then they call me a transpot.

Speaker 9 (01:00:28):
You are allowed to kill the enemy.

Speaker 3 (01:00:31):
Now, typically if you're bobbing in the water on flotsam
and jets of typically we don't.

Speaker 9 (01:00:36):
There are plenty of good reasons to do it.

Speaker 3 (01:00:39):
But here the problem that they have are the facts,
and the facts are that, well, you know, they blow
up the boat. Boat didn't sink. Boats still there, they
got back on the boat. Okay, it's a there's no
one shot rule. You're allowed to destroy the boat and
you're allowed to kill the enemy who's on it. And

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because the guys have been wounded doesn't matter, you fink. Look,
when I was at Fort Benning, right at the infantry,
I was trained. When you assault an ambush city, you
know you have a kill zone. You launched the ambush
and a kill zone. A bunch of people go down,
and then you run through and you shoot everybody in
the kill zone.

Speaker 9 (01:01:17):
Why do you do that?

Speaker 3 (01:01:18):
Because you don't want them to pop up and shoot
you from behind? If they're only wounded. War is a
mean thing. It involves hurting people. This is why we
shouldn't do it lightly. You should have a good reason
for going to war, like yesterday, when the anniversary the
Japanese attacking Pearl Harbor, or scumbag cartel guy shipping in

(01:01:38):
poison that kills nearly one hundred thousand Americans a year.
You should have a good reason to do it. Because
it's ugly. I don't. I'm no desire to hurt anybody.
I'm no desire to kill anybody. I managed to never
kill anybody when I was the Army, and I'm pretty
happy about that worked out well for me. But at
the end of the day, you're either going to defend
your country or you're gonna be a sissy femboy watching

(01:02:00):
the pool boy scam on your wife. Before you go
back to scribbling for the Dispatch.

Speaker 1 (01:02:07):
The latest book Panama read Perfect for that Christmas gift,
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Merry Christmas to you, my friend. You'll always be the
captain of my drug boat. A little earlier, in the
show I was talking about and I've been writing about

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at the rump society, revelation, addiction, and that young men
are desperately looking for a future out there, and there
is a sector of I'll just say, what we do
for a living, what we do here, this show that
we put on. There are people out there putting on
shows like this who have no responsibility to anybody. They

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don't have to. They're not transparent necessarily about who funds
their efforts. But what they peddle is a lot of
divisiveness and a lot of rage, and quite frankly, it's
led to some people's homes now being shot at because
they dare speak out about it as I have. I'm
mindful as I listened to a guy like Tim Poole
talk about his home being shot at because he dared

(01:03:14):
say something negative about gad Zowan's. It's like her minions
are now picking up guns and shooting them at houses.
Is that where we want to be as supposed conservatives?
Assuming that's what she still calls herself. I don't know.
Young men in this country face a real future, in
particular young people, but young men in particular, hopefully many
of them are turning to faith, leaning into the turning point,

(01:03:37):
Charlie Kirkway. But it's very very clear that there are
two versions of a future emerging, two distinctly different visions
envy and grievance and division, or creation and responsibility and hope. Envy,

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grievance and division or creation, responsibility and hope. Those are
the two visions that have emerged in this current era.
I think President Trump is selling the latter out there
on the campaign trail. I know what my choice is.
I choose building, and I choose unity, and I choose
prosperity rooted in faith, not in suspicion. En The destroys nations,

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it destroys cultures. Opportunity builds them up. And so all
I would say is it's time we help young men
put down the phones and streaming these podcasts of these
grifters trying to divide and tear down or socialists who

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are trying to poison them with their ideology or both.
Let's build. Let's build something President Trump. Guys like Scott Bessen,
they're hitting the campaign trail, starting the day in Pennsylvania
to sell a future of optimism and hope and building
and investment solutions, not just rage and anger for the

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good to be with you, folks. Welcome into this Tuesday
edition of This de Gaulle Show. We're going to be
heading to Tennessee, maybe to talk to the next governor.
I think it's probably pretty likely that Marsha Blackburn, once

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she leaves her Senate post, she'll become the next governor
of Tennessee. We always like to talk with her. She'll
be with us. There's some interesting stuff cooking in the
Senate and we'll talk with her about that. The latest
on these Somali scammers. President Trump hits the campaign trail
to talk affordability. He's actually swinging through Tennessee or excuse me, Pennsylvania,
so we'll talk with them about that. One of the

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good news stories, the real time good news stories about
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How do you do? Good Morning, Nashville, Tennessee. A community
that you know. I guess it shouldn't surprise us. And
that special election boy tilted blue for that lunatic, but

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that was it in that district. Otherwise, things went well
for the Republicans in the special election last week. This lady,
you know, well, she's been a guest of the show
a number of times. She represents the entirety of Tennessee.
She'd like to be the next governor of Tennessee, and
I think she will be. United States Senator Marshall Blackburn
back with us. Senator, it's great to see you, and
Merry Christmas.

Speaker 19 (01:10:48):
Good morning, and a merry Christmas to you, and good morning.

Speaker 1 (01:10:54):
Also, could I just pick your brain for a moment.
I think it's kind of obvious. We all understand that
major metropolitan cities are blue. That just is what it is.
I think it's a reality no matter what red state
or blue state you're in the concentrated populations are blue.
Nashville is blue, isn't it. That's just a fact.

Speaker 19 (01:11:15):
What we know is that Matt van Epps had a good,
solid win, a nine point win. We also know that
special elections in off years can get kind of funky
on you. And the Democrats were so motivated after their
big blue city wins in New York, New Jersey and

(01:11:36):
the Virginia governor's race. But voters came home to Tennessee
values and they know that addressing the cost of living
the way the Democrats want to do means hiking your taxes.
They also know that policies the Democrats want to put
in place mean less freedom for individuals. And Matt Vanipps

(01:12:01):
is going to be a great US Congressman and he
will be reelected in twenty twenty six. To that post.

Speaker 1 (01:12:09):
Senator, there is something really interesting yesterday happening in the Senate.
I know you were part of the committee who led
this conversation on the American Music Fairness Act, and Gene
Simmons of Kiss Fame was one of those testifying. People
may not be paying attention to this, and I know
in terms of kind of the scope and scale of
all the different things the country's facing. This may not

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be one that people know a lot about, but the
American Music Fairness Act and Full Disclosure, right, So I'm
in the broadcast business, so full disclosure as a commercial entity.
Radio as an industry, as I understand, is sort of
on the other side of where the artists are on
this is that right. I'm not in the music industry
doing spinning music anymore. I used to be, but maybe

(01:12:53):
you can explain it for us.

Speaker 19 (01:12:55):
Yes, absolutely, What we know is that pay for performance
is not there for our musicians when you come to
radio play. That's why it's called the am FM Act.
And every country pays royalties for radio play except the US, China,

(01:13:18):
and North Korea. And what we need to do is
to come into compliance with paying for radio play, then
our entertainers and our creators can be paid for the
music that plays over the radio every day. And Gene
Simmons from Kiss is going to be one of our

(01:13:40):
witnesses today on my bill. We are delighted to have
him and he is such an advocate for this. You know,
you think about some of our great singers, think about
people like Sam Moore of Sam and Dave who sang
soul Man. Radio station out there plays that music. But

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while he was alive, Sam Moore never made one single
penny from his voice and his singing a soul Man
being used on those radio stations over and over again.
So this is an issue of fairness. It's also an
issue of meeting the constitutional right that our creators have

(01:14:27):
that it's an Article one, Section eight right to benefit
from their creations and innovations.

Speaker 1 (01:14:35):
I'll let the lobbyists from my industry tackle this, but
I would say, as you know, one of the discussions
about radio broadcast traditional radio, and I should think that
the people on the other side of this argument would
probably join the radio folks in the concern that automakers
are talking about no radio in cars at all. And

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that's a problem for not just my industry but all
so musicians too, right, I mean, so it's like you've
got to be able to keep radio in cars if
they want to be paid to be heard on the radio.

Speaker 19 (01:15:09):
Well, that would be true. But also, Chris, when it
comes to having AMFM radio in cars, it is a
public safety issue. How do you get alerks over adverse
occurrences or over tornadoes that are coming through so you
have that override from the federal government on those am bands,

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and in times of a natural disaster or a national emergency,
they can communicate with the public. So I am very
supportive of keeping radio in automobiles so that people can
get the information to keep themselves safe.

Speaker 1 (01:15:55):
Yeah, we appreciate that. I got to ask you, do
you think you Democrat colleagues think they have an issue here,
because I've seen the polling on it and they don't.
It's a sixty forty issue on this drug boat stuff.
They keep hammering this like they think they're onto a
big scandal and the public is with the president on
dealing with people trafficking narcotics. Senator, why do your Democrat

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colleagues continue to hammer this like they think they got
a thing an issue?

Speaker 19 (01:16:24):
Yeah, you know, Chris, it is so interesting. They keep
looking for some issue that is going to stick. So
basically they're throwing everything against the wall and trying to
figure out what is going to stick. And they thought
that going after the gunboat the drug boats would be
something that would stick. But what they have found out

(01:16:46):
is the American people are saying, if you know that
boat is bringing drugs to the United States, and it
is going to end up in our communities, hurting our citizens.
Then take them out before they get here. And it
is a seventy three percent favorable issue to go ahead

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and take these voats out. And what we have heard
from the Department of War is every time they take
one of these voats out, you're saving twenty five thousand
American lives.

Speaker 1 (01:17:24):
And it's clear to the American people what's happening here.
What's a little less clear? Senator Blackburn Marshall Blackburn with
us again from Tennessee, the United States Senator soon to
be governor of Tennessee. What is clear is affordability is
still something that's on the mines of Americans. President Trump
hear's it, and he's hitting the trail. I guess, so
to speak. Again, he's going to Pennsylvania. So there's a

(01:17:44):
shift here. I think the President and Scott Besson, the
Treasury Secretary, they both addressed it over the weekend and
again yesterday. What's the messaging here from you, and what
would you counsel the president to say to voters Right now?

Speaker 19 (01:18:00):
Cost of living is an issue, and while inflation is
coming down, bear in mind the Democrats created this problem
inflation was at nine point one percent under Joe Biden.
It was the highest fastest inflation rates we had seen
in over four decades. And it is coming down down
around three percent. President Trump is making a lot of progress.

(01:18:24):
The cost of gas is coming down in Tennessee. I've
seen it under two fifty a gallon. I know in
some parts of the country it is hitting right around
two dollars a gallon. But people want the cost of
living to come down and to be more reasonable, more quickly.

(01:18:44):
And President Trump is right to put the focus on
this to say I hear you, I know it is
still a problem. We are doing these specific steps. The
Big Beautiful Bill is going to kick in January one.
That is the single largest tax cut for working Americans ever,

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no tax on tips over time, and removing my position,
my bill that removed the tax on Social Security for
about eighty five percent of our nation's seniors. So these
provisions are all going into effect. We also know that

(01:19:29):
dealing with the issue on tariffs, getting the cost of
gas and grocery stand the price of eggs and milk
and ground beef, those are essential components. And I appreciate,
appreciate that the President is working to make that happen,
and we want to see this kick in. Everybody is

(01:19:50):
saying it's pastime for these provisions to kick in.

Speaker 1 (01:19:55):
Senator I've got about thirty seconds. I would be remiss
if I didn't get your reaction to the announcement that
Jasmine Crockett is going to make a run for the
Senate down there against your colleague. Well, it will be
a primary, but Senator Jasmine Crockett from Texas, could you
imagine it? Senator Blackburn from Tennessee.

Speaker 19 (01:20:16):
No, I don't see her winning that race in Texas.
And anybody can throw their hat in the ring and run,
and she has chosen to do that.

Speaker 1 (01:20:28):
And we'll leave it at that. Hey, Senator, you know
who I have on the show tomorrow, Ricky Skaggs. I
bet you can appreciate that.

Speaker 9 (01:20:33):
I'll just have one.

Speaker 1 (01:20:37):
Yeah, Hey, Merry Christmas to.

Speaker 19 (01:20:38):
You, and a merry one to you.

Speaker 11 (01:20:41):
Be blessed.

Speaker 1 (01:20:43):
That is Senator Marshall Blackburn. I was just thinking about
Nashville during that conversation Ricky Skaggs on the show tomorrow.
I'm kind of geeked out about that growing up as
a kid. Hehaw on at the house he's touring doing
a Christmas show. That's tomorrow on our program. Hang on
morning a minute. Let me go to Terry in Ohio's
none anybody with us?

Speaker 13 (01:21:05):
There? Ed?

Speaker 1 (01:21:05):
Anybody?

Speaker 11 (01:21:06):
No?

Speaker 1 (01:21:06):
All gone? Okay. We had some great calls earlier, and
I'm sorry we got it. We ran a little along
there with Senator Blackburn, So those of you who were
hanging my apologies. But I know there were a couple
of people that wanted to talk affordability on the show,
and I was just interested to hear their conversation. So
I'm sorry about that. We'll do some more calls a
little later this week, and then of course Open Line
Friday is just around the corner, so that those of

(01:21:27):
you that didn't get in or couldn't hang around apologize
for that. I also want to say to you, while
we're at a point where I can just say thanks,
I mentioned the sponsors. They're part of the three legged
stool here on this show. It does not work. This
show cannot work unless you're supporting it and you're listening
to it. And before we run out of time and

(01:21:50):
before the year is over and we head into the holidays,
I can't thank this audience enough. From the very beginning
for being as supportive of this brand new show as
you've been. The new shows are weird because they replace
shows that you enjoyed, and sometimes it's under great circumstances,
as was the case for us. Sometimes it's under duress

(01:22:12):
and audiences feel, I think a little betrayed when the
announcements aren't clearest of what's happened. I was thankful and
grateful that, in the network's case, Hugh Hewitt moved to afternoons.
I then took the network morning program in our team,
and you've just been so kind to us as the
new guy. One of the things that I've been tasked

(01:22:35):
with doing is helping raise awareness and raise funds for
this wonderful ministry called Prison Fellowship and their Angel Tree campaign.
This is strictly because of your donations that this happens.
And we're talking about a gift in the hands of
a child whose parent, for whatever reason, certainly through no

(01:22:58):
fault of their own, is behind bars this Christmas. And
I know that that sort of lands on people's ears
in an odd way. Well, I don't know, giving money
to a charity somebody that's in prison, don't It's not
about the prisoner. It's not about excusing the prisoner. It's
about making sure that a child has a Christmas and
knows their love and knows they're cared for. And Prison

(01:23:20):
Fellowship does something really specific. They make sure the parent
that's incarcerated includes a handwritten note in the gift that
you have supplied to let that child know they're being
thought of and they're being cared for. And most especially
important in this entire campaign, they include a Bible with
that gift. So you're talking about a handwritten note from
a parent, a gift, and a Bible that's going to

(01:23:43):
change the direction of some of these kids. Thousands of
these kids we hope Christmas this year? Can you help me?
We doubled the number of kids yesterday thanks to your
generous support. We set a number. It was a lofty
goal this year. I'm not going to lie. Twenty six
hundred kids thirty dollars is what it takes and the

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math what we have. We're talking about now, sixteen days
before Christmas. We're talking about about eleven more broadcast days
for this show. Can you help me? Can you help
Prison Fellowship? I'm basically asking you personally, friend to friend
here This would be a tremendous thing that you're doing
for some very very deserving kids who, again through no

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fault of their own, find themselves without a parent. This
Christmas angel tree is going to make it happen. Thirty
dollars is all it takes. Now, you and I both
know you couldn't go out to lunch for thirty dollars
you buy two pizzas. You couldn't. You couldn't get two
pizzas for thirty dollars, But you can change the direction
of a child's life for thirty dollars today. Would you
help out if you can, I'd be so grateful to you.

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five five Stigall if you'd like to get in here.
Big news yesterday this headline from gasbuddy dot com. I
talked you about it earlier. Average US gas prices see
weekly dip again, a fresh multi year low reached. We
heard from a caller earlier in Colorado who's a truck driver.
He said, what he's paying for diesel right now? He

(01:25:33):
can't remember when it has gotten down this low. He said,
in Colorado, he just paid two dollars a gallon for diesel.
Pretty amazing. A guy that's had a lot to do
with being helpful here because we know the rules and
rigs and previous administrations were real inflating energy costs ever higher.
Lee Zelden is the administrator of the Environmental Protection Agency
under the Trump administration and makes time for us again

(01:25:56):
this morning. Administrator Zelden, good morning to you, sir.

Speaker 11 (01:25:59):
Good more. It's good.

Speaker 1 (01:26:01):
This is good news, and it is tied to everything.
President Trump said it yesterday. Energy is first. I mean
it's got to be because everything is tied to it.

Speaker 11 (01:26:08):
Yes, absolutely, And unleashing energy dominance here in the United States,
where we are reducing our reliance on foreign countries, is
it's key bringing down costs, the jobs that are created,
the investments that are being made, the groundbreakings that have
already started. There's so many different positive benefits to this

(01:26:29):
effort all year. It started at the beginning of the
year where when the President ran out of the gate
on top of many executive orders relate to energy, made
the National Energy Dominance Council. And what was happening in
the past was that on the energy front, all these
different agencies with equities and jurisdiction in the space were

(01:26:51):
siloed off. They weren't working together closely the way that
we see this year. And Doug Bergham, the Secretary of Interior,
became chair, Chris Wright, the Secretary of Energy. I'm on it,
and Chris and you have Lutnick on it, and the

(01:27:11):
meetings that take place where you were with the President
in the Oval at the Resolute desk, going pipeline project
to pipeline project, power plant to power plant, rule after rule,
collaborating like that. It's been key all year, and all
credit there goes to the President for not just bringing
us together, making a very clear out of the gate

(01:27:33):
what he wanted to accomplish, and being way on top
of it and working hard every single day, barely sleeping
to make sure that these efforts get over the finish line.

Speaker 1 (01:27:43):
You know, again, environment is different than climate We all
know that dirty air, dirty water, you know, taking care
of the environment, being good stewards of the environment. That's
what the Environmental Protection Agency is about. It is not
about climate change. That's different. I have three different stories
administrators Eldon in front of me that I've just kept
for just such a conversation. New York Times admits climate

(01:28:06):
skeptics are winning the information war have succeeded in undermining
climate action. One headline, science journal Nature retracts catastrophic climate
change study from just the News. Climate advocacy struggles. Opponents
warn it's just restrategizing. But the point is this whole

(01:28:26):
idea that we're warming the planet and thus we've got
to choke ourselves of energy, thankfully, does not seem to
be winning the day.

Speaker 11 (01:28:35):
Two really important points come to mind. One is, you know,
science isn't perfect. But sometimes people who defend science, they
get behind one particular theory and they go all in
on it, and they know and acknowledge the ranges the assumptions.

(01:28:56):
I mean, there's a lot of guessing that goes on,
and specifically as it relates to climate change. Climate science,
soul of studies and research that's come out. I mean,
there have been through the years pessimistic assessments of where
things might be in fifty years, and there's optimistic assessments.
And what has happened too much is that the most

(01:29:17):
pessimistic view, of the most pessimistic study is the one
that people will rally behind. And then if you don't
agree with them that that's just the way it is,
you know, then they try to name and shame your
science denial you don't believe it in science, And I
think that's one point that really ended up undermining credibility,

(01:29:41):
because what happens when you actually get twenty five years
down the road, your bad assumptions end up getting proven
to be inaccurate, and then you got a lot of
money your face. The second piece is, as you just
pointed out, on the policy front, in the name of
climate change, the willingness to bankrupt people who can least

(01:30:02):
afford it, to try to get rid of all different
sources of base load power, to cause strains on the
electricity grid, to move towards rolling blackouts, brownouts, make energy
costs end up skyrocketing because of your policies to put

(01:30:22):
regulations in place trying to eliminate entire sectors of our
energy economy, all in the name of climate change, that
ends up getting a whole lot of blowbacks faster saying,
hold on a second. You know, I never said that
I wanted you to force me to choose whether or
not to heat my home or get the prescription drugs

(01:30:45):
that I need, or to put food in my refrigerator
like I would like all three. And I would say,
from the policy to the way that the left has
rallied behind the most pestimistic views that didn't born out here,
we are in twenty twenty five or old in twenty
twenty six, and it's a different day of this debate.

Speaker 1 (01:31:08):
A federal judge administrator Zeldon Lee Zelden with us from
the Environmental Protection Agency in the Trump administration. A federal
judge Axios writes just yesterday striking down President Trump's anti
wind directive, nullifying a January memo that they report Stemy's
new federal permitting and leasing for wind projects. Full disclosure.

(01:31:31):
I hate windmills. I think they're ugly. I have no
idea who thought it was a good idea to dot
Our oceans and our landscapes are pristine waters and lands
with the stupid, ugly things. I know President Trump shares
my point of view on this, but I don't know
where you are with them. But does a federal judge
have a place in this decision that President Trump handed down?

Speaker 11 (01:31:56):
All year long, we have seen these district courts judges
activist judges trying to use the power of their office
with the way they're interpreting it to try to buy
the president's hand behind his back, the administration's hands behind
their back as far as being able to get policies

(01:32:19):
over the finish line. And time after time, as these
cases have worked through the court system and made their
way up to the United States Supreme Court, we're seeing
the Trump administration win case after case after case. And
what happens is there's a lot of venue shopping, judge shopping.
They want to get in front of the right judge.

(01:32:40):
We've seen it with litigation targeting EPA this year, where
a district court judge that was targeted would end up
putting out some type of an injunction against us. But
then it works through the appeals process and then we
ended up winning the appeals case, like we saw in
the twenty billion dollars camp insolation that I did earlier

(01:33:01):
this year of the greenhouse Gas Reduction Fund as it
relates to to when the President has been very outspoken
on this, especially with regards to the offshore wind projects.
He talks about the economics of it and comparing the
different sources of energy and the cost of it. What
happens a lot on the left is that when they

(01:33:22):
try to sell the economics of wind, they really don't
I mean this deliberately, obviously, they really don't capture all
of the costs that go into it. Wind obviously is
an intermittent source. It's not based load power, it is
not reliable. And once you once you produce the energy

(01:33:45):
through it, then you have to store it and and
that creates and transmission and storage.

Speaker 1 (01:33:52):
And just from a I'm sorry to interrupt you, but
just here again, like people that say no more mining,
don't mind, don't drill for oil, Yet we'll plant acres
and acres of these giant, monolithic, ugly, unbelievably ugly garish.
They'll dot the landscape for miles with these stupid things.

(01:34:13):
The same crew that says don't mine and don't row
for oil, right, well.

Speaker 11 (01:34:18):
What we're seeing, I mean you had, you had solar
into it. And I'm you know, a lot of of
beautiful pristine farmland that has turned into these massive solar
farms and uh, you know, and and there are points
to be made on winding points to be made on solar.
I mean, can't tell you how often I'm driven across

(01:34:39):
this this country where you know, you see a windmill
that is it's not just in a position where it's
not moving because there's no wind at that moment, you know.
But uh, there's a lot of issues when you just
get to the end of life and you just have
this big thing sitting there. And I love this scene
of Landmen season one where they were talking about all

(01:35:02):
the fossil fuel that's used to you know, produce and
transport to synergy. And lastly on the solar piece, there
are massive several loans that have gone out. I mean
we're talking about into the billions. There's there's one called
Ivanhoe out in California where they got this over one

(01:35:22):
billion dollar loan from the Fedral government and very quickly
they're completely out of business. And now you have all
these you have a massive solar farm, all these solar
panels just sitting out what used to be pristine land.
The taxpayers lost their money and all this is just
gonna is just sitting out there for who knows.

Speaker 1 (01:35:42):
How long, Liezelden, I'll let you run on this question
because I know you have to go the fraud that's
been uncovered in the e PA. I don't want to
say it's the most, but it seems like when we
were talking about Doze, and I know DOZ is not
gone away, it's just kind of been folded into the
operations of the executive but you immediately struck, I mean,
you hit the ground running, and it seems like EPA

(01:36:02):
is uniquely inn agency that was just sloshing around and
a lot of taxpayer money. Is that about right? That
the EPA seemed to be where most of the grift
was going on with the left And do you feel
pretty confident you've put that to bid?

Speaker 11 (01:36:20):
It was certainly in a very large part at EPA.
Absolutely was across agencies. What was unique was the amount
of the money being wasted beyond the operational dollars that
go through the agency. You have an agency with an
annual operating budget of about ten billion dollars. We've saved
so far this year thirty billion dollars. We've canceled grants

(01:36:43):
worth about twenty nine billion of that thirty and a
lot of former Obama and Biden officials. Democratic donors create
these environmental NGOs. They get money as pastors even though
they're not qualified. But the conflicts of interest, because of
the self dealing and reduced agency oversight, it was all

(01:37:06):
set up to fail for the taxpayer. It was all
set up to be able to enrich their friends. I'll
just give you one quick example. There's this program called
Solo for All, which was created as part of the inflation,
the so called Inflation Reduction Act, and they had all
sorts of examples where there are many pass throughs the

(01:37:28):
dollar would go through. They would go through in some
cases four passed through entities where that dollar would be
getting dropped by fifteen to twenty per cut.

Speaker 1 (01:37:40):
A shell game. Leez Elden, you're warrior. We're so glad
you're there. We're grateful you make time for us. I
hope you have a great rest of the year. If
we don't talk to you before, then happy new Year,
and we'll see you in the new year. There is
this case right now before the Supreme Court. They're going
to hear oral arguments in a case called Trump the Slaughter,

(01:38:00):
a battle that's been brewing on one hand since soon
after President Trump took office in January, and on the
other hand for years. At the center of the battle
are laws that limit the president's ability to fire the
heads of independent, multi member federal agencies like the Federal
Trade Commission. Now, in a million years, if you have

(01:38:22):
a president that can't fire people in the executive branch,
what have you? Then? What's the point of having an
executive branch if the executive can't fire people that work
under him. Justice Gorsich tackled some of this. Listen to
number thirty seven here, thirty seven or eight, either one.

Speaker 3 (01:38:43):
What do you like about so even some quintel's essentially
executive functions in your view, are not vested in the
president of the United States.

Speaker 9 (01:38:52):
I would not say that. I would not put it
in this. I would not say that that yes, I would.

Speaker 3 (01:38:58):
I would say, they're not to say yes that basa
what you've just darre not constitutionally committed to the person
of the president and to his soul an exclusive discretion.

Speaker 1 (01:39:09):
It's crazy to me, It's crazy to me that it's
even a debate. Gorsuch clearly doesn't think it's a debate.
This is like we were just talking about with Administrator Zelden.
This should be slam dunk six three, maybe seven to
in favor of the executive. If you have a president
that can't fire people in the executive branch, then what
have you. It's a stupid discussion. I can't even believe
it's a debate. Let's go to Joseph in New York,

(01:39:31):
waiting patiently. Joseph, glad you called. Good morning, Hello Chris,
how are you, Joseph, good morning, Welcome in.

Speaker 2 (01:39:38):
I'm very well, Thank you, Thank you for having me again.
This is the rabbi from the prison who called it
little while ago when we saw a beautiful I would say,
almost Christmas miracle. Here in the prison where both prison Fellowship,
which they also in addition to Angel Tree, they have
the Prison Fellowship Academy where they teach the inmates biblical

(01:40:00):
principles to help them improve their lives. One of the
inmates was actually from Communist China. He became a very
committed Christian here in the prison and also started to
learn many Jewish traditions, as well. He came to the
Prison Fellowship Academy with a letter from the International Fellowship

(01:40:20):
of Christians and Jews, crying, saying, after reading the testimonies
of the help that they do, he said, I, instead
of spending twenty five dollars that I could buy something
special for Christmas, to have some cookies or something. Isaiah
says in Isaiah fifty eight. And he read from Rabbi
Nachmani Breslov some books that he read. He said, I,

(01:40:44):
when you fast, you also have to give charity. Instead
of spending that money on myself, I want to spend
that money to give to charity. And the pastor who
was teaching the Prison Fellowship, she said she was inspired
by that. The guard who was standing there said he's
also going to give, and some of the inmates said
the same thing. This is what you're helping when you

(01:41:06):
help the Prison Fellowship. It's not only angeltry which helps
their children, but the inmates inside. Their lives are transformed
and they are free inside by the power of their face.
So I want to wish you a merry Christmas and
thank you for all the work you do for Prison
Fellowship and the ISDJ and all the other programs that

(01:41:27):
you help out.

Speaker 1 (01:41:29):
Rabbi, God bless you for saying so Thank you so
much for sharing that. It's why my parent company, Salem Media,
has partnered with these folks. What you just said so beautifully,
and you can look up and I want you to
I respect this audience entirely too much for you to
not understand this. Open the books on this ministry and
this charity and you will see they spend their dollars

(01:41:51):
well and wisely, and they're highly reputable. They do the
work the Rabbi just said, and I'm so glad he
made that point. One point five million American kids have
a mom or a dad in prison. This Christmas. You
can get a gift in their hand, you can get
a note from that parent in their hand, and most importantly,
you can get the Bible in their hand. Can you

(01:42:11):
help me do that? Eight eight eight two zero six
twenty seven ninety four or Christigall dot com and we'll
see you tomorrow. So that's a wrap for another Christagall
Show podcast. Thanks for committing to it, listening to it
all the way through. You're a fighter. I like that
about you. Hope you'll leave it a five star review
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