The Stunning Details of the Mar-A-Lago Raid

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want to get here. Thank you, Christmas spirit busting out
all over to here's the math on it, fast Eddy.
I just looked at it this morning. We are two
hundred and forty seven kids away from hitting the goal
that we set for ourselves of twenty six hundred kids
to help through the Angel Tree Prison Fellowship program, and

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I just cannot say thank you enough. I can't say
I am surprised at the generosity of this audience. I'm not,
but I am always impressed that you end up coming
through well ahead of deadline.

Speaker 2 (03:57):
I think we're going to get this done today.

Speaker 5 (03:58):
I actually feel pretty that we're going to get this
thing done two days ahead of schedule, fast Eddie. Because
of the generosity of this audience. We are, as I
said of the twenty six hundred kids that we're trying
to help with the Angel Tree Ministry program. And this
is for those of you who may not know or
just happening by the show. I don't mean to be
labored or I know this frustrates some of you. All right,

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stick all, we get it. I'm not Look, I'm excited
because we're close to helping twenty six hundred kids. That's
how you cannot feel that in your heart a little bit.
A friend of mine called me yesterday and she said,
you know, I just want to tell you, as someone
who used to teach kids who themselves come from troubled homes,
I've seen this firsthand. I've seen the difference between somebody

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engaging with these kids, helping them, showing interest in them,
versus just assuming, well, that's as good as their lives
are going to get. They got a parent in jail,
they're troubled already in their house to start with. From
the jump, they just don't have a great start. And
so you get kids that get the opportunity here because
of prison Fellowship. Get a gift this Christmas, a note
from a parent along with that gift that says, hey,

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marry Christmas. I am thinking about you even though I'm
away and a Bible. This friend of mine said, you cannot.
You can't impress upon people enough. Stick all she said
to me, you can impress upon people enough. The difference
in engaging with these kids early and making an impact
and an impression versus just saying I wash my hands

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of them. They're lost cause she said, most of these
kids will stay in your community. They never get better,
and the circle continues of criminality and trouble.

Speaker 2 (05:34):
This breaks that cycle.

Speaker 5 (05:35):
That's why this Prison Fellowship charitable organization has been so
near and dear to say. The media group's hard for years,
and when we came on board this year, they said, hey,
we're doing a Christmas campaign.

Speaker 2 (05:45):
Can you help us out?

Speaker 5 (05:46):
And I said, we're going to do our best, and boy,
have you come through so far. Again, We're we're a
little over seven thousand dollars away from our goal and
I set this as Friday our deadline.

Speaker 2 (05:57):
It's not technically we've still got.

Speaker 5 (05:58):
A few more days before Christmas, but two hundred and
forty seven kids at thirty dollars, that's what they need
from you per child to get this done. I think
we get it done today.

Speaker 2 (06:08):
We may get it done.

Speaker 5 (06:08):
Before the end of the show today. All right, So
a couple of ways to do it. If you're inclined
to give, and I hope that you do. You can
text my name Chris. That's one way to do it.
Text my name Chris. And I thought I had that here,
but I don't seem to at the moment for some reason.
I'm sorry. I had that number, now I don't, ed
do you know that number? I know you can go

(06:31):
to angeltree dot org slash Chris angeltree dot org slash
Chris if you'd like to help today. The phone number
is West Coast time, so that's not going to suit
you very well. But I know we can text you
a link this morning on your phone.

Speaker 9 (06:43):
Nine four eight seven eight. I'm sorry, Chris. That's my
fault for not having it done.

Speaker 5 (06:47):
For eight seven eight. That's all right. We will get
that down. Text nine four eight seven eight and we'll
send you a link right now. Text Chris to nine
four eight seven eight. All right, We're off to the
races here we go.

Speaker 2 (06:59):
JD.

Speaker 5 (06:59):
Van heads to Pennsylvania and dropping truth bombs. I like
his MAXI. He's asked if affordability is a concern for
the Trump administration and Republicans out there, and I think
he answers this about as well as anybody can. Number
twenty three.

Speaker 10 (07:16):
Are you worried that affordability is a political liability for
your administration and for Republicans?

Speaker 3 (07:23):
Look, I'm not.

Speaker 10 (07:23):
Worried about the politics because I believe fundamentally in the
wisdom of the American people.

Speaker 3 (07:27):
When we go out there and we.

Speaker 10 (07:29):
Tell our story that gasoline and energy got way too
high under Joe Biden's administration, but we've lowered the cost
of energy, the American people will understand that.

Speaker 3 (07:39):
The American people know that we go out.

Speaker 10 (07:41):
There and talk about the fact that the affordability crisis
that happened under Joe Biden's administration made a lot of Americans.

Speaker 3 (07:48):
Poor and work working every single day.

Speaker 10 (07:50):
To put money back in their pocket. I think the
American people will understand and agree with that. Of course,
they're going to be the ones who make the final decision.
But I feel very confident that if we keep wages high,
we keep energy prices low, we keep on chipping away
at the affordability crisis created by Joe Biden's administration. Yes,
I believe the American people are going to reward us

(08:11):
because the American people are smart. They know Rome wasn't
built in a day. They know what Joe Biden broke
is not going to get fixed in a week. We
got to stay with it. We got to keep on
working on bringing good jobs and money back into the
United States of America.

Speaker 3 (08:25):
And that will.

Speaker 10 (08:26):
It already has paid major dividends for the American people.

Speaker 3 (08:30):
It's going to pay a lot more in the year
to come.

Speaker 5 (08:33):
Now here's what's coming, and this is just unavoidable. It's
going to happen. There's really no way around it. Despite
what may be covered in the news over the next
few days. And those of you who are kind of
waiting with breathless anticipation about Obamacare, it's not going to happen.

Speaker 2 (08:50):
It's not going to happen now anyway.

Speaker 5 (08:51):
It's not going to happen before Christmas, which means come January.
And I'm not on Obamacare, so I don't know how
it works exactly. I don't know when you get hit
with this. I don't know if you already know what's coming.
But I'm told many people's premiums who are on Obamacare
are about to skyrocket in some cases, maybe even double.
The Republicans do not want to extend this for three years.
That Democrats said, we want to clean extension of this

(09:13):
for another three years. We want to subsize everybody that's
on Obamacare for another three years without question. And the
Republicans are correct to say, well, no, we're not doing that.
And some kind of more modern Republicans have said, how
about we do two years instead of three? And the
Democrats said, nope, three, And we went through this yesterday.
We know why they want three because we've got elections
coming in three years. They want to run on Obamacare

(09:34):
again because they know this is one of their great tools.
And so this is my question, ed, is Obamacare enough?
And I don't know. I bet you could quit Google
search this. How many people, roughly do you see are
enrolled in Obamacare? I wonder what the Google machine spits
out if you ask it that question. How many Americans
are enrolled currently in Obamacare? I don't know that number.

(09:55):
I suspect it's probably a sizeable by design.

Speaker 9 (09:57):
By the way, oh yeah, zero point three million people
as of twenty twenty five.

Speaker 5 (10:03):
That's an appreciable number. Twenty four million people are enrolled
in a government taxpayer funded health insurance system which is broke,
subsidized exclusively by the taxpayer, left to stand on its
own devices. And we have major insurance companies that are
not participating in it anymore. Because again, what happens. Government
gets involved in this business. They control costs, and they say,

(10:26):
and by costs, I don't mean they control what medicine
costs to do. They say, we're only going to pay
this much for X. And as such, some insurance companies
just say, well, this is untenable. We cannot cover everyone
and then be expected to cover every expense for everyone.
We can't do it, so we're out. We're just going
to be out of Obamacare entirely. And more of that

(10:47):
will come if this isn't fixed, because again it does
not impact the price of medicine. You go to the
hospital and the hospital bills what the hospital bills. Now,
Obamacare may say, we're not paying for that. Are you
better off? Well, I've got Obamacare, Thank goodness, somebody else
is covering my health insurance. Okay. Then you go to

(11:08):
the doctor of the hospital and they say you need
a fill in the blank, and it's going to cost
this much, and Obamacare says, yeah, no, you're not giving
them that at that cost. And you're thinking, as the patient,
but I need that thing, and Obamacare says, maybe you do,
but it's too expensive. By the way I saw, it's
officially legal to do the euthanasia thing in Illinois. Now
that's what's coming next. Some people decide who live and

(11:32):
some people decide who dies. Look, if Obamacare is here
to stay, and that is the design in the long run,
that government will administer all of your health care needs
and as such they will literally get to decide thumbs up,
thumbs down, Like the old Roman colisseum days, he lives,
Give him the surgery she's too old. Nope, thumb's down.

(11:52):
No surgery for her, soup Nazi stuff, only for your medicine.
That's what's coming. If this isn't fixed, and Republicans are
trying to fix this, I don't think it can be fixed.
It ought to be blown up entirely. But at present
it is the system, and so Republicans are trying to
figure out some squishy ones. Do we just kind of
bandage this into the new year so rates don't hike

(12:15):
on everybody. Come the new year. Democrats aren't going for it.
They want three years extended or nothing. So what's going
to happen is we're going to get it in January.
And if you're on Obamacare, you're one of these twenty
four million people cub boom, your health insurance rates are
going to go through the roof. Now, whether we like
that or not. What's that going to do to the

(12:36):
Donald Trump affordability push that jd Vance was out there
talking about yesterday? He says, the American people are smart.
They get Rome wasn't built in the day we inherited
a mess. Will is Jdvance?

Speaker 11 (12:48):
Right?

Speaker 5 (12:48):
Are the American people smart? Will they properly blame Democrats
for inflating their health insurance needs in the new year? Fastedting?

Speaker 8 (12:54):
Absolutely not?

Speaker 2 (12:55):
Sorry, who will they blame?

Speaker 8 (12:58):
No, they're going to blame the government. They're gona blame
Donald Trump. I'm blaming JD. Vance is going to blame Republicans.

Speaker 2 (13:03):
It is a sticky wicket.

Speaker 5 (13:05):
Moren a minute.

Speaker 2 (13:06):
Will all right?

Speaker 5 (13:08):
We had this yesterday at the close of the show,
and it's, in my view, one of the seminal moments
in American history. It is the moment that I identified for
those that have been longtime listeners of the show, particularly
those of you in Philadelphia who've been listening to the show,
you know that when there was a heated primary and
there was still the thought that there might be a

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real horse race between Florida Governor Ron DeSantis and Donald Trump,
I took a bit of a career risk. I did
something that I said I would never do again, because
I made the mistake of doing it once in my career,
and I regretted it forever. I told you that back
in twenty fifteen, I said, and I even mentioned this yesterday,

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I grudging lee, of course, when Donald Trump became the
nominee in twenty e fifteen sixteen, I grudgingly said, of course,
I'm going to go vote for him. But I didn't
think he could win. I was confident that Hillary Clinton
was going to beat him. Mad enough to admit when
I get it wrong. And I got it wrong. And
by the way, I was not only wrong about the election,
I was wrong about my lack of enthusiasm for Donald Trump,

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who has turned out, in my view, to be the
most consequential president of my lifetime. Now I can't say
that I hopefully I've got a few good years ahead,
and we'll see some more really productive change and maybe
a president Vance. I'll remain hopeful, but for now I've
not seen a more consequential president. So my point is
I was wrong when I thought, well, it's got to

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be Ted Cruz.

Speaker 2 (14:35):
That's it.

Speaker 5 (14:36):
He's the most constitutional guy in the race. And a
lot of people in this audience said to me, then
I was wrong. They were mad at me, really mad
at me, and let me hear it. And so I
sort of walked a plank and learned a valuable lesson
about where the country was, where people's moods were. And
this is ten years ago.

Speaker 3 (14:56):
Now.

Speaker 5 (14:57):
The country was mad ten years ago, well before Covid,
well before Biden. We were coming in on the tail
end of Barack Hussein Obama. The country was angry and
they wanted to change, a substantive change. And I did
not believe that Donald Trump was necessarily conservative guy. I
remember Rush Limbaugh constantly telling HI about Rush, and that

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was clearly obviously his pick.

Speaker 2 (15:22):
I didn't understand that. I challenged Rush.

Speaker 5 (15:24):
I said he'd lost his mind, he'd lost his conservative
bona fides. Well, my point in telling you all that
is I tried to stay out of primaries after that,
and I said, you know what, I'm going to listen
diligently as closely as I can to our audience, and
I'm going to see if I can't follow and listen
intently to where they're going so that I don't miss
it again. I don't want to miss a phenomenon like
Donald Trump again. And so I stayed quiet when Ron

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DeSantis decided to rise up and challenge Donald Trump in
a primary for a minute, and then the mar A
Lago raid happened, and ed you remember this the day
mar A Lago was raided that day and in the
days after, I said, then and there, I can no
longer stay quiet. I'm not trying to antagonize the Dessanta's

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supporters out there, but I can't stay quiet. If we
don't back Trump fully, if Trump does not win reelection,
if Trump does not beat back this raid on his home,
we will have lost the country forever. Remember when I
said that.

Speaker 8 (16:26):
I was there, absolutely, Chris yep.

Speaker 5 (16:29):
And now a few years later, it turns out it
was as bad as I said it was, and it
is as consequential as I thought it would be. And
we're going to get into it next. Oh, that's a
beautiful shock. I've been there. I've been to that very resort.
As a matter of fact, they're in Key West. I
didn't stay there. Somebody far wealthier than me stayed there.
That's a fortune to actually stay at that place where

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that camera is mounted on the Salem News Channel. I
stayed at a much cheaper place down the street. But that
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Speaker 2 (18:14):
That's the thing.

Speaker 5 (18:15):
There's some people that listen to the show and they
email and they say, what happened to the other two hours?
I said, Well, your local station decides whether they're going
to carry one hour, two hours or three hours, or
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Pick up the phone and dial dial up and harass
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(18:36):
three live hours and they'll thank you for it. Got
an email this morning from Mark in White Bear Lake, Minnesota.
He said, Chris, it sounds to me like Obamacare is
going to be handled like the organ transplant lists. A
committee of some kind will review each procedure and decide
by age, overall health costs, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera.

Speaker 2 (18:59):
There will be rationing.

Speaker 5 (19:01):
Obama even admitted that himself back in the early days,
and assisted suicide side by side.

Speaker 2 (19:06):
With this hot mess.

Speaker 5 (19:07):
Be me up, Scottie, says Mark in white Bear Lake, Minnesota. Mark,
I couldn't agree with you more, and Merry Christmas to you.
This from Reidlin dot com on that point, and I
will get to this Marlago rage story. I haven't forgotten.
Illinois has become the latest state to legalize assisted suicide.
I did not realize that there are twelve states of
the Union now that allow this, including DC. Did you

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know there were that many? I had no idea last
I checked. I haven't been caring to follow the story
closely enough to be honest with you, but Oregon was
the one that I remember, and I guess since another
eleven have signed on to allow people to off themselves
if they'd like. That's a startling trend. The Shawnees Big

(19:51):
Boy late last week signed Senate Bill nineteen fifty into law,
allowing terminally ill, mentally capable adults to obtain lethal drugs
to in their own lives. Pritzker's signature makes Illinois the
twelfth state to legalize the practice. The quotes here in

(20:12):
the readly in dot com article from places like the
Catholic Conference of Illinois say the unintended consequences that arise
from legalized assisted suicide include a large range of possible abuses,
and this is pretty critical. Back to Mark's email on Obamacare, Listen,
it is alarming that in states with legalized suicide, there

(20:34):
are documented cases of people being denied life saving medical
treatment by insurance companies in lieu of what the much
cheaper option of just terminating the life. Now do you
think if Obamacare becomes the law of the land, which
it's quickly becoming. We already know. We just looked this up.

(20:55):
Twenty four million Americans are on it. It was designed,
as you understand, to old people hostage. It was politically
designed by Barack Obama and the Democrats. They lost. They
were in the wilderness politically after they shoved Obamacare home
and a snowstorm on Christmas Eve back in two thousand
and eight nine. I will never forget that ever, and

(21:17):
it was thanks to the turncoat Arl Inspector of Pennsylvania
at the time, who helped that finally happen in a
snowstorm literally I remember it was Christmas Eve of two
thousand and nine, and the Democrats stayed over and with
the help of Arle Inspector flipping, they buy a vote
shoved Obamacare home.

Speaker 2 (21:37):
And to this day it was designed.

Speaker 5 (21:39):
Democrats lost control of the House for I don't remember
how long, but it was the foreseeable future. Democrats couldn't
win an election in Congress after that for a long
while because the American people didn't want it, but they
pushed it anyway. And why so that we'd come to
this place today, all these years later, and now here
we are. Twenty four million Americans are on this thing
and they can't get off it, and they have no

(22:00):
affordable option, which is not true. And that's why I'm
also glad we have US Medicalplan dot Com as our sponsors.
And I do hope you pick up the phone right
now if you're on Obamacare and you're fretting about this,
I'm not Yes, I'm doing a pitch. But I'm telling
you this is a service and a friendship that I
have cultivated with John Ruhlman, who I know is saving
people not only money, but is saving them the anxiety

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of being held hostage by a government plan. But the
design was always that private health insurance would fall, there
would be no private health insurance plan. All of us
would be on government administered plans. And then along comes
the dark hearts of people like JB. Pritzker, who say, hey,
let's pass a law that says, if you're sick enough,
you can just off yourself. Boy, what a witch's brewed.

(22:42):
Don't you see how that comes down the pike, ed?
I mean, can't you see it when you talk it out? Hey,
if things aren't coming along for you medically, we can
make it legal for you to just end at all
right now. Plus, hey, we're the government, and we'll go
ahead and handle and decide whatever you need in terms
of medicine and costs, and whether we're going to give
you the procedure or the pill or the surgery or whatever.

(23:04):
We'll make that call. Or we could just cover you
off on yourself right now. I mean, it's legal in
your state after all.

Speaker 2 (23:12):
Can't you see.

Speaker 5 (23:12):
I mean, it's like it's when you talk it out,
you see how obvious it is.

Speaker 9 (23:16):
It's terrifying because I only looked at this in the
short term, Chris. I only had a short term problem
with how much it cost me and how much it
affected me financially. I walked this out fifteen years and
now it's like, oh my gosh, this is terrifying. I
just the way you just laid it out just scared
the heck.

Speaker 5 (23:33):
Out of me.

Speaker 8 (23:34):
I'm not gonna lie.

Speaker 2 (23:36):
It's it's dark. It's dark stuff.

Speaker 5 (23:40):
And people talk about, well, you know, we're controlling the
cost of medicine or whatever.

Speaker 6 (23:44):
Not.

Speaker 5 (23:45):
Really you're just offering people rather than administering medicine, is
what you're doing anyway. Just and here again, I know
the politics of it. I get it. In the short term,
as Eddie said, people look at they're called my premium,
my premium, not knowing that it's literally rotting the foundation

(24:06):
of human life underneath our feet. In the United States,
with the help of people that are making it legal
for you to kill yourself instead insurance Obamacare. Can't you
wait for the day that the federal government says, well, hey, no,
We're not going to give you a heart transplant, but
if you'd like to just end it all, we'll sign
off on that. Kathleen Sabelias said it once as the

(24:30):
former HHS secretary, Kitty Kat Kathleen Sibelius, I'll never ever
forget it. I've shared the story a thousand times and
i will never forget the moment testifying about a young
girl who needed a lung transplant at the Children's Hospital Philadelphia.
She was on a waiting list, and she was because
of some political activity around this she got bumped in

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line for a lung transplant to save her life. She
was twelve, and there were others who were not only
ahead of her, but there were a lot of people
who gave her not a great prognosis for the lung transplants,
that it really wasn't worth the effort, that she may
not live through it anyway. To my knowledge, by the way,
she is still alive today. But at the time they
said they weren't even really sure she was worth the expense.

(25:16):
And in open testimony, Kathleen Sibelius was asked, the Health
of Human Services secretary, what about this young girl, you
guys are prepared to say I'm not signing off on
this as the government because you don't like the odds
of her survival. And Kathleen Sebelius said, without missing a beat, Hey,
sometimes you have to make a decision. Some people live

(25:38):
and some people die. These people, Democrats genuinely have no
regard for human life whatsoever. They don't value it, they
don't regard it.

Speaker 2 (25:52):
They see it as disposable. They see it as.

Speaker 5 (25:54):
Something they can prevent from happening before even birth, and
they see it as something they can extinguish while alive.
And by the way, if they don't like what's coming
out of your mouth, they'll kill you. Two.

Speaker 2 (26:05):
It's a death cult.

Speaker 5 (26:06):
The Democrats are a death cult, and they're signing off
state by state by state to make it legal for
you to kill yourself. And couple that with Obamacare, and
that's where we are. That's where we're headed, government sanctioned
executions because it's just cheaper. And twenty four million people
right now are going my premium next year. You see

(26:29):
the trick. It was always the trick. It was always
the trap. And ironically it's going to be the Republicans
who are going to take it in the seat.

Speaker 2 (26:40):
Next month. When everybody's premiums jump. It's sad.

Speaker 5 (26:44):
I mean, I can't say Republicans are blameless in this,
and that they have offered really no alternative. They have
not told the story the way I just told it,
and they've not told it well, they don't tell things well.
It's hard to explain. Though. It's tough to explain. Not
everybody has a microphone. I get it. Eight five five
Stigall is the telephone number. No, I have not forgotten
about the FBI rate of mar Lago, but that is

(27:05):
an important story. I just I couldn't get pasted quickly.
Let me just remind you as we close in on
the end of the week, our prison Fellowship campaign continues
and we are I really want to get this knocked
out today. I think we can. I was talking about
the Magnificent seven yesterday. This is come the end of
the year. People who are thinking about deductions. People are

(27:27):
do charitable giving and they get to write that off
come tax time. This is a totally tax deductible charitable
endeavor as well. So if like a friend of mine
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about where to give from my end of your giving
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is a tax deduction as well. But most importantly, it
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(28:13):
Let's go to James in Virginia. Hey, James, I'm glad
you called. Good morning and welcome in sir.

Speaker 12 (28:20):
Good morning.

Speaker 2 (28:22):
How are you.

Speaker 12 (28:24):
I'm doing fine and well, taking it day by day.
Thank God for it.

Speaker 7 (28:28):
I'm glad to hear that.

Speaker 5 (28:29):
Merry Christmas to you. Thank what's on your mind?

Speaker 12 (28:33):
Well, what's on my mind, Chris is from day one,
I knew they was bad, a bunch of bad apples
in the Democrat Party. And you know they was up
to no good from day one, even when it came
to doing stuff to a man that have the guts

(28:56):
to stand up for America. When they did that to
President and Trump already knew that they would crook.

Speaker 5 (29:03):
At you're talking about raiding his home.

Speaker 12 (29:07):
Raiding his home, doing stuff to his family, knocking down
everything what he stands for. And they just don't want
the American people to gain their way of life.

Speaker 5 (29:21):
Yeah, so you are still thoroughly one hundred and twenty
percent squarely behind Donald Trump at this hour. You haven't waivered.

Speaker 13 (29:28):
You better know it.

Speaker 5 (29:32):
I like to hear that, James, Merry Christmas to you.
I'm grateful you. Listen, stay in touch, please eight five
fives to go. All the telephone number Stanley's in Florida.
Hey Stanley, I'm glad you called Mery Christmas in good morning.

Speaker 13 (29:42):
Hey, thank you, Chris. I enjoy your show. Merry Christmas.
My wife recently passed away. She had incurably sorry I
may choke up talking about it. She made the decision
to sign up for hospice care. This was for the
most part, basically assisted suicide. Now we didn't never thought

(30:08):
this would happened. Her idea, she wanted it. The hospital
helped her, and so is that assisted suicide hospice care.
They basically went from progressive care.

Speaker 12 (30:23):
To comfort care.

Speaker 13 (30:25):
And so if you boil it down, it was kind
of like assisted suicide. And this is in Florida, And
if Florida one of these states were obviously this happened.

Speaker 2 (30:40):
Were.

Speaker 13 (30:42):
Talking about it.

Speaker 5 (30:44):
Yeah, no, Florida is not. But I just to be clear,
trying to understand, James, this was this was your wife's
wishes to no longer go through treatment or just kind
of the way things went.

Speaker 2 (30:58):
That's correct.

Speaker 14 (31:00):
She was she was a strong woman, but she went
out of strings and she was incurable. She was decided
time to go, and the hospital helped her and we
all we all supported her and it was really a
kind of a wonderful thing. Everybody gathered around, everybody's there

(31:23):
holding her hand.

Speaker 5 (31:26):
James.

Speaker 13 (31:28):
Yeah, it was a happy ending, but it's basically assisted
suicide when you.

Speaker 2 (31:33):
Boil it down, James. What was your wife's name, Donna?

Speaker 5 (31:40):
Donna? And do you have children?

Speaker 12 (31:43):
Yes?

Speaker 2 (31:45):
How many?

Speaker 13 (31:47):
Four?

Speaker 8 (31:48):
Four?

Speaker 5 (31:49):
Children? Are they grown?

Speaker 13 (31:52):
Yes, they are, they're adults and they were there.

Speaker 2 (31:56):
Are they nearby you today?

Speaker 5 (31:57):
Are you with them today?

Speaker 2 (31:59):
Your kids?

Speaker 13 (32:00):
Yeah? Two of them live real close. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (32:03):
Is this your first Christmas without Donna?

Speaker 5 (32:07):
Yes?

Speaker 13 (32:07):
She passed away October twenty.

Speaker 5 (32:10):
Third, James, beyond or excuse me, Stanley Beyond the discussion
that you called about. I just want to say I
understand Christmas is a tough time for a lot of people,
you being one of them, and I'm going to take
a break here and say a prayer for you and

(32:32):
your family. I can't imagine how tough this one's going
to be for you, but I'm grateful you shared Donna's
memory with us.

Speaker 2 (32:38):
God bless you, sir.

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five fives to Gall some news family news inside the
tent here at the Salem News Channel, the Salem Media Group.
This was just made public this morning, and it's really
exciting for all of us because I think the world
of these guys and it's cool to call them colleagues.
Now talking about Scott Jennings of CNN, you know, Scott's

(36:54):
been doing a one hour radio program on the Salem
Radio Network exclusively while he's done his commentary over there
on CNN, and they just finalized a deal now, of course,
with the loss of Charlie Kirk this has been such
a I don't want to I don't want to do
much crying in the beer here, and I don't mean
for it to be a glum moment, but I do

(37:17):
have to point out that over the last couple of years,
this company, my parent company, the folks that syndicate our
show and bring you this show every day, the Salem
Media Group, have gone through some profoundly stunning challenges that
most professional organizations could barely weather one of these, never

(37:40):
mind two of these. And I will say that this company,
and it's a pleasure to work for this company because
number One, they're faith forward. Their trust in the Lord
first and foremost is what I believe ultimately drives them
through some of the most difficult stuff that they have weathered.
I mean on a personal level, of course, it's a

(38:01):
much more serious thing as a professional organization. It's also
serious operationally. It's like, you know, when you lose your
star quarterback on a football team and he's out for
surgery for a year or whatever. You know, that's a
big blow to the organization, never mind what it does
to that person. And so I'm talking about, of course,

(38:23):
those of you who are longtime listeners to the Salem
radio stations across the country, and if you've been watching
the Salem News Channel for any period of time, or
if you know Praguer, you and you've been listening to
the Dennis Peger my colleague and friend. Dennis suffered a
devastating injury that took his voice off the radio. Thank goodness,
he's still with us. But he's still recovering and paralyzed,

(38:46):
as you will know, and needs assistance, I believe, even
with breathing right now from time to time, and speaking
is obviously incredibly challenging. But he's a warrior and hasn't
lost his spirit and even a little bit, and he
continues to participate from the sidelines with our company, and
we are thrilled that he's still with us, and we

(39:06):
pray for him every day. I know all of you
who are Dennis Prager friends miss him a lot. So
the company begins to decide what do we do with
the Dennis Prager timeslot while he's out there recovering. And
the decision is we go with the Charlie Kirk Show.
I mean, Eddie, you can't this is some kind of

(39:28):
biblical darkness. You can't you couldn't make up, and then
Charlie Kirk's life is taken. And you know, now as
a show, they're trying to figure out what they want
to do going forward and how to get it done.
And this has happened in what inside of two years
from one another. I don't know the math on it.

(39:49):
It's these two events happen very closely to one another,
all things.

Speaker 2 (39:52):
I mean, one of.

Speaker 5 (39:53):
These is like years of devastation to a family and
an organization. Never mind two events like these within a
couple of years. Am I doing the math on that
I have?

Speaker 9 (40:04):
The last year it was then twenty twenty four, unfortunately Dennis,
and yes, twenty twenty five we lost.

Speaker 5 (40:09):
Charlie, and so you know, this company is trying to
figure out, all right, well this nationally syndicated time slot
that was Dennis's for so long, then Charlie's and now
you know, people trying to hold together Charlie Show and
do their best and they're still producing a podcast every day.
But as a radio show, the decision was made, all right,

(40:30):
what can we do? And some heads got together and
decided and I was glad to hear this. That's got Jennings,
our friend Scott Jennings, who has been doing one hour
in the midday on the Salem News Channel on the
Salem Radio Network. He's just been airing exclusively on the radio.
But the change here now Eddie Ever got this right

(40:52):
that he is now going to be doing two hours
on the network. This was just made official this morning.
He'll be doing two hours of radio, which will also
be simulcast on the Salem News Channel, I think, which
was different than before because of the CNN deal. If
I've got this.

Speaker 9 (41:07):
Right, yep, Scott goes to two hours on the radio,
that's for sure.

Speaker 8 (41:10):
I want to confirm we're.

Speaker 7 (41:11):
Going to be on the A.

Speaker 9 (41:12):
I don't want to give rug information just in case,
but I did that second hour. Scott Jennings two hours
a day on Salem confirmed but his but just folks,
his picture.

Speaker 8 (41:23):
Is up at the SNC website.

Speaker 2 (41:25):
So I think I'm right about this.

Speaker 5 (41:27):
I think they have figured out a legal way now
that Scott can do the show on the Salem News
Channel in addition to the radio stations all over the country.
So Scott will do too. And you say, well, there's
a three hour show. That's two what about the other hour, Well,
that first hour is going to be hosted by our
friend and colleague Alex Marlowe, who runs Breitbart News. And
Alex is tremendous. He's been doing a wildly successful podcast

(41:49):
for Breitbart for years. We've had him on the show
quite a bit, and now Alex will do that first hour.
So it will be the Alex marlow program at high
noon every day on the Salem News Channel the Salem
Radio Network, followed by two hours of the Scott Jennings
program into Hugh Hewitt. So that's the big news, the
family news around here. And thrilled for Scott, who's a star.

(42:14):
Alex and Scott are both well established, great conservative voices,
and it just makes good sense. So kudos to Salem
here again for I mean, I don't know how much
one company can go through trying to figure out how
to arrange things going forward to offer quality programming, but
Salem's done it, and that is, you know, in no

(42:38):
small part to our direct management team of Phil Boyce
who's the vice president of Programming, Carrie Hagen, Dave Santrella,
our president. These are people who Tom Traddup who runs
the radio side. These these look it's not often you're

(42:59):
going to hear me saying I have empathy for the
suits the corner office guys, but I will tell you
that this has been one of the most extraordinary two
years ed that I think any company should ever have
to go through, Setting aside the tragedies that have been
these people's families, just as a professional organization, I can't
explain to you how complex it's been because you're talking
about sponsors, longtime sponsors, people that have been advertisers, which

(43:22):
is obviously revenue. It's just it's bananas, and they've weathered
it all. And it's I believe ultimately it's because this
is a company that remains in prayer, on bended knee
and remembering who's in control at all times. I think
that's how Salem has weathered it as well as they have.

Speaker 8 (43:37):
Quite frankly, No, that's exactly it, Chris. And it's funny.

Speaker 9 (43:40):
I was talking to our big boss, Phil Boyce at
the National Religious Broadcasters Convention. We kind of had a,
you know, conversation. We went to dinner and I said
I was praying for him. I was praying because I
know he was struggling. You know, we were all struggling
with the you know Dennis Prager News last year and
then heading into this year, and that.

Speaker 8 (43:58):
Is exactly what he said.

Speaker 9 (43:59):
He's just like, well, I have faith, Eddie, like I
have because I was like, this is this is so challenging,
this is going to be tough.

Speaker 8 (44:05):
I don't know how you're going to do it.

Speaker 9 (44:06):
Like I was kind of doing the like, yeah, this
is this is going to be a big year and
I don't know how you're going to do that. And
he was and he said it is in God's hands.
He I remember him saying that clearly.

Speaker 5 (44:16):
That is one thing the leadership of this company. And
I'm sorry if I sound like a company manner. I'm
kissing up. I'm sure in a couple of weeks my
mood will change entirely. So let me have the Christmas
spirit here, would you please?

Speaker 13 (44:27):
Uh.

Speaker 5 (44:28):
The company is many things, but chief among them is
it's led by a group of people who are so faithful.
They stay calm even in what is remarkable adversity. You know,
they're not. They don't lose their heads. They don't have
all staff meetings and all calls where they say, ah,
we're going down. You know, it's it's never been that.

(44:48):
Have you ever sinceed a bit of panic in the organization,
ed since we've been with them, panic in all this
miss panic, no transparency. It's been tough. I mean they
would tell you it's been tough. They've opened discussed how
time the business is changing on top of all that.
So it's not just you know, it's not just these
awful tragedies that happened to Dennis and Charlie alone, but

(45:09):
it's that the business is. You know, the tectonic plates
are shifting almost daily, and you know, as a media
company you're trying to figure out, all right, where does
where are we going? What does that mean? It's it's
a remarkable time in this business and specifically for the
Salem Media Group. And so my hat's off to those
who run and manage this place. I couldn't do it.

(45:31):
It's why I'm not a suit. I want nothing to
do with management ever, that is both in meeting with
them or being it myself.

Speaker 2 (45:41):
So that's the news today.

Speaker 5 (45:43):
Congratulations to Scott, Congratulations to Alex. We are we're going
to have Alex coming up in our third hour of
the show today, or if you're listening to the podcast,
you can catch it there. A little later today, with
the time I have a lot in here, let me
just quickly remind you that we are closing in on
it our goal because this audience, and by the way,

(46:03):
in no small part I shouldn't bury the lead. The
reason this company continues to also thrive, first and foremost
our Lord and Savior, but secondly because you support the
efforts of both our clients as well as our charitable endeavors.
And the angel Tree program from Prison Fellowship is one

(46:23):
of those charitable endeavors that Salem has been doing year
after year, and you and this audience have been so
charitable and stepped up to give. We set a goal
of twenty six hundred kids to help, and we are
closing in on that. We are a little over two
hundred kids away, and I want to hit that by Friday.
That's thirty dollars a child, a gift, a note from
their incarcerated parent, and a Bible in their hands courtesy

(46:45):
of you.

Speaker 2 (46:45):
Can you text Chris to.

Speaker 5 (46:47):
Nine four eight seven eight and donate thirty dollars today
to help one of those children? Text Chris to nine
four eight seven eight or Angeltree dot com slash Chris.
It's kind of on my heart to visit this for
a second. I don't again, I have not forgotten the
mar Alago raid story. I have not, and we are
going to cover it in more detail coming up in
a little bit with Mark Weaver, one of our favorite

(47:08):
legal beagles. So if I don't get to it till,
then so be it. But it's not going to take
me that long. I just wanted to quickly say again
to We had a caller in a previous hour named James.
He and his four kids are going through their first
Christmas without the lady of the house. And James's wife
named Donna, and James was calling from Florida. The subject

(47:31):
of assisted suicide came up because Jbie Pritzker is the
latest governor to sign that into law, and there are
now twelve states of the Union that alloo assisted suicide,
as well as DC. I didn't know there were that many.
And James, who's obviously just devastated losing his wife, and

(47:52):
particularly this time of year, it really amplifies that he
just lost her in October. He said that she had
just gotten tired of fighting her illness and that it
was in fact terminal. She wasn't going to be able
to treat her way out of it, and so she
decided she wanted to go the route of hospice and
manage her pain until her eventual death. I don't know

(48:13):
if James meant it. His question seemed to imply he
was wondering if that was assisted suicide, and I would
just say that no. First of all, Florida is not
one of those states. James, and I didn't want to
gloss over this, but too, hospice is not assisted suicide.

(48:36):
I don't view hospice as anything other than someone who
knows they don't have much longer to live. Hospice, everything
that I've ever been given to understand about it is
it manages pain and manages the discomfort, and yes, manages
their slow, eventual path to the end. But it's not

(49:02):
everything that I've ever understood about hospice. It has nothing
to do.

Speaker 2 (49:05):
With expediting death.

Speaker 5 (49:08):
It's about making someone comfortable as we lose them, and
people that do that work. By the way, you will
never convince me, Eddie, there's not a special place in
heaven for like a special VIP section of heaven for
people to do hospice work, and hospice nurses. You will
never convince me those people are not angels on planet Earth.
If you've ever met a hospice person who does that work,

(49:32):
is that not? I can't imagine. Can you imagine that
being your living seeing people slipping away before their loved
ones on the daily Almost can't.

Speaker 2 (49:42):
I can't.

Speaker 9 (49:43):
I don't have the God bless those people. I know
that I couldn't do it. I know that for sure,
I could not do that.

Speaker 5 (49:50):
And I mean, you know, look, you see violent stuff
if you're law enforcement. You know, you see intense stuff
if you're in surgery or eers and if you're a doctor,
and all of that stuff, and I respect all of
them those things. But the unique place of being someone
who is trying to comfort a grieving family as they
know their loved one is slipping away, and trying to
make that loved one comfortable and explain to their living

(50:14):
relatives what's going on.

Speaker 2 (50:16):
And I've never.

Speaker 5 (50:18):
Met anyone who has said anything less than were it
not for those hospice people, we couldn't have gotten through it. So, boy,
I am impressed as I'll get out. And so I
just wanted to make that distinction. James. If that's on,
I don't know if that's what he meant. But I
felt inclined to say, James, if if you felt you

(50:38):
were part of something like that, that darker assisted suicide thing,
my friend knows certainly not. You were doing everything you
could to make your wife comfortable, and she's home now.
More in a minute, let me get to this story,
because I've been talking about it for a while and
not been able to get to it. And that is

(50:59):
the FBI saying it lacked probable cause for the mar
A Lago raid. We will discuss this in more detail
with Mark Weaver, but it cannot be dropped. It cannot
be glossed over, it cannot be ignored. In fact, I
would say that this Susie Wiles thing from Vanity Fair
is probably quite likely one of the reasons it dropped.

(51:19):
At the same time this report was handed over to Congress,
newly declassified emails revealed that the FBI thought it lacked
evidence to justify rating Trump's residence at mar A Lago
for classified documents in the summer of twenty twenty two.
Internal emails show that the Biden administration's Justice Department attorneys

(51:40):
overruled lawyers in the FBI's Washington Field Office, who said
they lacked probable cause, such as witness testimony that classified
documents were on the premises. The Justice Department nonetheless pressured
the FBI to execute the search warrant for the entire
home allow, wowing them to conduct an unprecedented and sweeping

(52:02):
raid of a former president's residence at a time when
mister Trump was considered a likely twenty twenty four presidential candidate.
I want you to keep in mind a couple of things.
Donald Trump was supposedly impeached over a phone call to
Vladimir Zelensky while he was president in his first term.

Speaker 2 (52:26):
Do you remember why?

Speaker 5 (52:30):
They said that the reason he called Vladimir Zelensky was
to meddle in the coming election, The coming election, by
the way, that was years away still, that is the
twenty twenty election, the coming election that had not landed
on a nominee, although I guess now we understand that
they had. In fact, it was always baked in the cake.

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And if you'd gone back and really thought through now
what we know about all that happened inside the Democrat
Party back then, what you can and see is from
the very beginning they were telegraphing their plan. Democrats had
always planned to make that stupid old man their nominee.
They had always planned to install Cackle Bridges as his

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vice president, and it seemed ultimately their plan was to
usurp the old man after his usefulness, looking like the normal,
comforting centrist, grandfatherly character, to bridge the gap and restore
normalcy in order after a chaotic Trump administration. Right, that
was the whole sales pitch for Gramps. Turned out President

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Otto Penn was leading nothing, running nothing. The henchmen of
Barack Obama were. It was a third term of Barack Obama.
We all understand that Joe Biden did nothing, ran nothing,
knew nothing, really, but they impeached Donald Trump over a
phone call of Latimer Zelensky because they knew even though
we were what a couple three years away at the

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time from a twenty twenty election. Democrats had not telegraphed
that they had a nominee. They hadn't even had their
primary yet. But they said because he was investigating specifically
Hunter Biden and Joe Biden collecting checks from Ukraine, this
was monkeying with the coming election.

Speaker 2 (54:14):
They were basically.

Speaker 5 (54:15):
Telling us they knew that Joe Biden was going to
be their nominee, were they not? As you look back
on it now, ed, isn't that striking At the time,
Like in twenty eighteen, when that phone call had happened
and Congress was moving to impeach him over it, we
weren't anywhere close to a Democrat primary or even who
was running at that point.

Speaker 9 (54:35):
Remember, Yeah, that's the timing is. You do have to
take a step back to look back at that time
and say, oh my gosh, the timing is unbelievable on this.

Speaker 5 (54:45):
So the point is the justification for impeachment was he
was meddling in a future election, trying to sideline and
punish his future opponent, Joe Biden. That was the justification
for the supposed impeachment.

Speaker 13 (54:57):
Right.

Speaker 5 (54:57):
Oh yeah, So go to today, Fast forward today and
what the FBI has released about the raid on mar
A Lago. Let me read this to you again. Before
the raid, an unidentified official at the FBI's Washington Field
office wrote that we here at the FBI don't believe,
and we have articulated to doj We've established probable cause

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for a search warrant. We don't The FBI was telling
Merrick Garland that DOJ, we we can't. This was Chris
Ray's FBI, mind you, not exactly a friend of Donald Trump's.
But even they said, we look, you're asking us to
raid mar A Lago. We don't have That's a big deal.
And it is a big deal.

Speaker 2 (55:38):
Folks. Do you understand? I know you do.

Speaker 5 (55:40):
I'm sorry. This is where I lose my mind. My
blood pressure goes through the roof when I talk about
this story. Do you understand how close we were to
losing the country. Do you understand that a sitting president
and his rogue DOJ ordered a former president's home to
be swatted and urged, his personal effects, rifled through, his

(56:02):
family's personal effects, rifled through, and now we know for
no justifiable reason whatsoever. The FBI said the DOJ, we
can't do that. We do not have probable cause to
do that. We can't do that. And the Biden administration
and Merrick Garland did it anyway, and why ultimately to

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impact what they knew would be Donald Trump by this
time trying to run a second time and a fear
that he would win again, which he ultimately did and
justice prevailed. But when this raid happened, the details of it.
We didn't know entirely, but I knew one thing. No
matter what Donald Trump had or didn't have, there was
no justification for treating him like some sort of drug zar,

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like we were raiding Maduro's home or something. And that's
what it was. It was a third world dictatorship move.
We've never seen anything like that in this country's history.
And I said, then if that is allowed to stand,
if that is not punished, if that is not beaten back,
if that kind of behavior has not made an example
of and extinguished for good, then we've lost the country.

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Add to that the fact that Donald Trump was dragged
through four different courts, they tried to bankrupt and jail him,
and even allowed him to nearly be murdered in Butler, Pennsylvania.
That ultimately helped the American public to wake to the
idea that there is really a deep state and an

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establishment media working in concert with the deep state to
try to destroy the will of the American voter. And thankfully,
the American voter sought and mobilized, and Trump support galvanized
and unified behind him and got him a big win
last year. And now, hopefully, prayerfully, we have a doj

(57:53):
that is starting to work to uncover this stuff. This
is a huge step forward by cash ptelod FBI turning
over these documents. SENA Judiciary Committee Chairman Chuck Grassley called
these revelations shocking, said the declassified material shows that the
August eighth raid of twenty twenty two on mister Trump's
home was a miscarriage of justice. The FBI confiscated boxes

(58:15):
of documents that were used as evidence in special counsel
Jack Smith's prosecution of mister Trump on charges of mishandling
classified material. A grand jury later indicted mister Trump on
forty felony charges. The case was dismissed in twenty twenty
four by a federal judge who agreed with defense attorneys
mister Smith had illegally been appointed by the Justice Department.

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But more importantly, the very raid itself to secure the
documents they built the case on was obtained illegally, just
like the surveilled countless numbers of Americans and secured PFISA
warrants to do that surveillance. This has to be punished.
So step one is to win an election, and and

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that's the big first step. And Donald Trump has thank goodness.
Step two now is to find this little toad, Merrick Garland,
because he signed off on this. And I got to
tell you now that we have seen people like Peter
Navarro and Steve Bannon putting leg irons at the airport
and sent off to jail. I'd like to see that

(59:21):
happen to Merrick Garland. He deserves it. That's as rogue
as it gets, next to killing outright killing Donald Trump.
It doesn't get worse than the Department of Justice ordering
overriding the FBI, saying you find a reason, and the
FBI says, we have no reason, and they say, find
one and go raid his home, and they did. People

(59:45):
should be made to pay for this. People should be
made to pay legally for this. People should be made
an example of for that. We do not do this
in the United States. Sitting presidents do not raid former presidents. Holmes,
we don't do that in this country. So PAMBONDI paging you, madam,

(01:00:06):
where are we on this? What's the prosecutorial plan? Because
by god, there'd better be one. The day this happened
was the day I said, if we don't write this injustice,
we will have lost the country. This is a precedent
we cannot allow to stand. We can't. The severity of

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this is greater than I can express. I don't have
words to express how serious this one is. I mean,
it's one thing that Joe Biden tried to make us
all take a shot that didn't even work and threaten
to take our jobs from us. It's one thing to
collude with media or keep us from speaking or lying
to us, or gaslighting us. It's quite another to just

(01:00:49):
outright open up a full blown all assault raid on
the leader of the opposition to them and representative of
millions of voters. That's next level stuff. If that's allowed
to stand without punishment, we have lost the country. So
Donald Trump, I presume, largely won this election because of

(01:01:12):
that and nearly being murdered, And so I presume he
also feels that this is deeply serious, just like I do.
I would assume no one thinks it's more serious than
he does. And so that's why, Because I feel this
so deep in my marrow. When I hear these vanity
Fair stories on Susie Wiles, or I hear I don't
like what he said about Rob Reiner, I think, are

(01:01:33):
you kidding me? Do you understand how close we were
to losing the country just a couple of years ago,
and you're talking about Rob Reiner and Susie Wiles and
Vanity Fair. Get serious, as Larry says, my friend, my colleague,
Larry Elder says, we have a country to save.

Speaker 2 (01:01:48):
Wait the hell up?

Speaker 7 (01:01:51):
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Speaker 5 (01:05:30):
Let's go to Dave in Columbus, Ohio. Hey Dave, I'm
glad you were patient. Thank you so much. Good morning,
welcome in. Merry Christmas.

Speaker 1 (01:05:38):
Thanks Chris, same to you. I want to address that
business with Obamacare you were talking about earlier about how
the Republicans are probably going to take it into pants.

Speaker 5 (01:05:48):
You know.

Speaker 1 (01:05:49):
I think our favorite president, my man, is going to
be on the TV tonight addressing the nation, and I
think it'd.

Speaker 5 (01:05:56):
Be a good.

Speaker 1 (01:05:57):
Good time for a little messaging here about who can
understand people getting freaked out over the premium going up,
but if mister Trump could get the point across that,
if we can instead of giving subsidies to insurance companies,
pay them directly to the consumer to help offset the
costs that are premium increases and also help them shop
the free market. I think it comes down to messaging here,

(01:06:21):
and I need to get that point across.

Speaker 15 (01:06:23):
You know.

Speaker 5 (01:06:24):
That's that's my take on it.

Speaker 2 (01:06:25):
What do you think you know, Dave?

Speaker 5 (01:06:27):
It's interesting you say that. I got an email from
another Dave who said so twenty four million Americans, And
I know that sounds like a lot.

Speaker 2 (01:06:33):
It is a lot.

Speaker 5 (01:06:33):
But basically, he said, I'm frustrated because it sounds like
the Republicans are playing to those twenty four million as
opposed to considering the three hundred million who aren't on Obamacare.
I thought that was a really interesting point. So you
think there's still time for President Trump to talk to
those twenty four million and the rest of the country
and explain why Obamacare is a bad deal. I believe so.

Speaker 1 (01:06:53):
Bottom line is, even though we're we're close to the
new year, what does he have to lose by bringing
it up tonight?

Speaker 5 (01:07:00):
And I'll be honest with you, I've not read specifically
what he intends to address. I don't know they have.
They said what he intends to address is that the
Venezuelan build up or something else, or if we don't know,
what would you like to hear Obamacare, the economy, a
mix of all of it. What do you think he's
going to do today tonight?

Speaker 1 (01:07:15):
I go, I'd love to hear him talk about it.
All the drug boats and everything, which I fully support,
as far as any survivors of those boats. I don't
give a damn about them, Chris, because they don't give
a damn about all the people in this country that
they want to get addicted to their product on and
who may overdose.

Speaker 8 (01:07:32):
Enough is enough.

Speaker 5 (01:07:33):
So this is going to be sort of a you
think this may be and you'd like to be like
it to be kind of a thirty thousand foot view.
President Trump kind of laying out his agenda what he's
been doing in year number one, wishing everybody a merry Christmas,
and hang on, be patient because good things are coming.
Tax rebates are coming, big time checks are coming, come
tax time. Kind of tell everybody projectives good things are coming.

Speaker 1 (01:07:53):
Exactly, and I fully believe next year things are going
to explode. Hey, Trump got things to explode economy wise,
and there's no reason to believe it's not going to
happen again.

Speaker 5 (01:08:04):
All right, David, that's Dave and Columbus. Merry Christmas, my friend.
We'll of course cover it. That's nine o'clock Eastern, eight
o'clock Central. President Trump addresses the nation. You heard me
earlier this year, I hope, talking about our partnership with
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lot of folks say, good morning, glad to have you in.
Welcome to this third hour of the Stigall Show. Merry
Christmas to you looking live at Boston Traffic this morning.
Thanks for listening on AM five ninety and on great
radio stations like it all over the country, or maybe
you're watching on the Salem News Channel. Glad to have
you along. Had some news this morning that we are
going to be expanding the Scott Jennings Show on the

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Salem Radio Network and the Salem News Channel in the
new year. Not now just one, but two hours of
Scott Jennings will be happening in the new year. And
I believe we're even going to be able to offer
him visually on the Salem News Channel. Initially there was
some discussion because we had him on radio, but because
he has a deal with CNN, we weren't entirely sure

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how it was going to work out. But I guess
now Scott's going to be able to do a visual
presentation on the Salem News Channel as well. And our
buddy Alex Marlowe, who heads the efforts at Breitbart News
and has a wildly successful podcast. Alex will be doing
the Neon Hour on our network in the new year,
and Alex will be with us a little later in
the hour to talk about that and what he expects
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News Channel. So I congratulate and welcome aboard my colleagues
Scott and Alex for this new year. Also, thank you.
We're getting closer. We're inching. I think we're going to
get this done today, the Angel Tree Campaign, we are
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We're trying to extend a little Christmas, a little joy,
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homes that certainly need it this Christmas. If you feel
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put a bow on this today and hit our goal
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A gift under the tree, a note from that incarcerated
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Speaker 2 (01:14:06):
We do believe that people.

Speaker 5 (01:14:07):
Can and have been and are often redeemed when they
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Speaker 2 (01:14:38):
Can you help?

Speaker 5 (01:14:39):
Can we get this thing done today? I think we
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Let's go to our legal beagle, Markweaver. We've had some

(01:15:21):
technical difficulty connecting with him today, So Mark, I'm going
to ask you off the top of me, I hold
you over for a second segment because I suspect we're
going to need it.

Speaker 2 (01:15:26):
Good morning, Good morning.

Speaker 11 (01:15:28):
It would be my pleasure to hold over.

Speaker 2 (01:15:30):
I appreciate you, thank you so much.

Speaker 5 (01:15:32):
Let me start with the what I suspect, maybe in
my view, the biggest if you want to call it political,
but I would say abuse of power story in maybe
American history, and that was what we've now found was
the illegal and improper raid of a former president's home,
now the sitting president's home by the previous administration's Department

(01:15:53):
of Justice when they were told they did not have
proper justification to go do so, and they did it. Anyway,
When one president's dj raids a former and now current
sitting president's home, mark in my view, it doesn't get
worse than that. For this country. Our system as we
know it is hijacked in a way that can't be

(01:16:14):
repaired if we don't deal with this swiftly and aggressively.

Speaker 11 (01:16:18):
That's all true. Remember, people like you and I were
criticized by people for calling attention to this raid. You
and I have talked about it on these airwaves. Now
we have evidence that we were right. Even the FBI
thought that there was not probable costs. Let's go back
a little bit in time. The founding fathers gave us
the Fourth Amendment because in England. The King could just

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issue a general warrant or have one of his magistrates
to it, and they could go search anywhere and look
for dirt on their political opponents. So our founder said, well,
we're going to do this differently. We want a fourth amendment.
There has to be very specific probable cause there wasn't
any here, and it's got to be signed by a
neutral and detached magistrate. The magistrate was a former lawyer

(01:17:02):
from Epstein World who had been publicly critical of Donald
Trump on social media. Every part of this search suggests
this was weaponization by the Biden Justice Department.

Speaker 5 (01:17:14):
Who do you believe? Inside doj ultimately said yes to this.
You've got to believe something this substantial, rating a former
president and the would be nominee to run for president again,
Donald Trump. You've got to presume this is big enough
that it crossed Merrick Garland's desk. Yeah.

Speaker 13 (01:17:32):
Yes.

Speaker 11 (01:17:32):
When I worked to Justice, we call this the fourth floor.
I'm sorry. The fourth floor would have been the Deputy
Attorney General. That's normal sign off or something like this.
But Merrick Garland works on the fifth floor and this
would have been approved by the fifth floor.

Speaker 5 (01:17:49):
Who should be called before Congress at a minimum and
made the answer for this in your view.

Speaker 11 (01:17:54):
Well, I think everyone in the Biden Justice Department who
signed off on this needs to explain what happened. And
let's remember, violating the civil rights of any citizen is
a crime. It's violation of civil rights under color of law.
It's also a civil action. The president could bring his
own civil action against the members of the FBI and

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the Justice Department. It's hard to sue the government, but
it's possible when they violate your civil rights.

Speaker 5 (01:18:21):
Can you, legally, as the current attorney general, potentially bring
charges against a former attorney general for something like this
if you could prove there was criminality.

Speaker 11 (01:18:34):
Certainly. Yeah. When I was at the Justice Department, we
brought charges against government officials who use their power to
violate the civil rights of citizens. Now do I think
that's going to happen. It's obviously very unusual, but the
entire circumstance is very unusual.

Speaker 5 (01:18:51):
I don't know that I can impress upon people more,
and I don't mean to be labor this mark.

Speaker 2 (01:18:57):
He was impeached.

Speaker 5 (01:18:58):
Donald Trump was impeached because he made a phone call,
and it was well before Joe Biden was even that
we knew sniffing a nomination or the Democrat Party was
going to put him up as a candidate. The primary
hadn't even been established, and they impeached Donald Trump for
a phone call, claiming he was trying to meddle in
a coming election.

Speaker 11 (01:19:16):
What do you call this, Mark, Well, it's been said before,
because it's true. It's what they do in Banana republics.
When one dictator is in power, he goes after his
political opponents so we can stay in power. That's what
Joe Biden was doing. The people in the Justice Department
knew that Joe Biden was failing. Anyone nearby, anybody was

(01:19:37):
out of eyes, knew he was failing. And they knew
that Donald Trump was gaining strength. So what was the
only solution? Tried to criminalize Donald Trump and delegitimize him
as a political candidate. And the fact that we have
this evidence means we're not speculating anymore. The FBI said
there's not enough probable cost to search to mention they

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had many other ways to get what they thought were
improperly stored classified records. I think there's a strong argument
that Donald Trump had declassified them, but they had many
other ways to do it. Sending in armed agents to
search everywhere, including the former First Lady in that current
First Lady's underwear drawer is a troubling breach of the

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civil rights of Donald Trump and his family.

Speaker 5 (01:20:24):
And of course we know Jack Smith ultimately just packed
his things and tuck tail and ran away when Donald
Trump won the election. And I guess you can say, well,
winning an election cures all, but is that satisfactory? Trump won,
So let's just drop all this.

Speaker 11 (01:20:37):
No, I mean, because people need to be held to account.
I believe Jack Smith is heading to the Hill and
he's going to have to answer questions when Capital plilabethtist.
Remember Jack Smith was a special counsel, but he wasn't
an independent council. What does that mean? It means he
worked for Merrick Garland. That means Merrick Garland is the
person in charge of the prosecution and Marrek Garlold of

(01:20:58):
course tates birching order from Joe Biden. So this goes
all the way up to the White House. Answers need
to be given so we know exactly who knew what
and whether there should be criminal charge or for deprivation
of civil rights under color of law.

Speaker 5 (01:21:13):
Mark Weaver has written a brand new book, by the
Way for children. This would be a great Christmas gift
if you're a patriot and you want to instill and
inject patriotism and civics into your young person, whether that's
a child or a grandchild, or a niece or a nephew,
or a neighbor or somebody at church.

Speaker 15 (01:21:29):
You know.

Speaker 5 (01:21:30):
God Bless America two hundred and fifty years Strong. Mark,
with just about thirty seconds or so to go, I'd
love for you to pitch this book again because I
think people ought to know about it and I introduce
their young people to it.

Speaker 11 (01:21:42):
Thank you. It tell us the history that's not being
taught anymore. God's hand was on our country and led
us through some difficult times but made us the greatest
country on earth. Children need to know the story. It's
wonderfully illustrated and it can be read aloud or read
by children. It's called God Bless America two hundred and
fifty Your Strength on Amazon.

Speaker 5 (01:22:02):
That's awesome. I'm so glad that you wrote it. Such
a smart, smart book. Mark Weaver, our great friend, constitutional attorney,
former DJ spokesperson, and again God bless America his book Mark.
I'm going to hold you over for one more segment
because I want to talk to you about this Brown
University shooter, the FBI's role in that, what you make
of it exactly, also less important, kind of silly but interesting. Nevertheless,

(01:22:24):
the east wing of the White House torn down, a
ballroom being built, A wing of government went to court
over it. That's ended as of yesterday. We'll talk about
it next. Mark Weaver good enough to come back and
visit us. We got him back on the camera on
the Salem News Channel. Glad to have you back, Mark,
and thank you, former Department of Justice spokesperson. The FBI

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is being criticized a bit here for its initial handling
of this Brown University shooting. Mark, and I just kind
of wanted to get your assessment of it, as you
see it. Is it fair to be critical of the
way it was handled. They detained a guy and then said, oh, no,
that's not the guy. We've got a ton of really
kind of grainy and bad camera footage. People critical of
Brown for not having the proper cameras. I assume they'll

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nab the guy. I assume you don't get to walk
onto a campus and assassinate people and not be caught.
I assume what do you think about this?

Speaker 16 (01:23:16):
Well, the FBI clearly misstep by detaining somebody who really
had nothing to do with the crime, at least appears that.
But I think the larger mistakes have been made by
the mayor of Providence, the police chief of Providence University president.
They've not bestowed any credibility upon themselves with their press briefings.
Let's remember Brown University has several billion dollars in endowments,

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but they don't have security camera footage in the building
where this took place. We've seen some of this grainy footage.
I remember the big foot footage from the seventies, probably faked,
but much clearer than the footage we're seeing for this.
So laughing matter because we really want to get to
the bottom of this. But it is laugh of bull

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that at Brown University and Providence mayor and police chief
have handled this so poorly.

Speaker 5 (01:24:11):
We'll continue to track that, I assume. I mean, are
you optimistic they catch the guy that caught this Louisy Mannger?
You only guy faster than they caught this guy, But
are you pretty confident they'll figure it out anyway, I.

Speaker 16 (01:24:21):
Am, but obviously every day that goes by, he can
be further and further away. We just don't know whether
he was able to cover his tracks. You'd like to
think that he's left some evidence because this really, this
is horrible. I'm also frustrated that we don't really know
more details. Even within six hours, the university at President
couldn't describe what the students were doing there.

Speaker 5 (01:24:42):
Law enforcement officials have been.

Speaker 16 (01:24:43):
Unwilling to describe what this shooter yelled as he walked
into this economic study group.

Speaker 5 (01:24:50):
I died away. There are multiple are There is reporting
now Mark that there are multiple witnesses that suggest he
allegedly shouted atlu Lochbar.

Speaker 2 (01:24:58):
Before he opened fire while he was a fire especial.

Speaker 5 (01:25:01):
Some witnesses are saying, yeah.

Speaker 16 (01:25:03):
Our witnesses say that we've had no confirmation from anyone
in a law enforce, but they've talked to the witnesses.

Speaker 2 (01:25:09):
They've held that back.

Speaker 16 (01:25:11):
So these your information that would make people feel more
comfortable that the right people are in charge. I come
alongside police leaders all the time and advise them on
crisis communications. We've handled dozens of high profile incidents like this.
You don't get credibility by waffling, by not knowing the answers,
and by appearing unprepared in these press briefings.

Speaker 5 (01:25:34):
Mark the National Trust for Historic Preservation filed a federal
lawsuit Friday of last week to block President Trump's construction
of his new ballroom. Yesterday, a federal judge was unconvinced
that the White House should stop ballroom construction, but did say, hey,
I want plans submitted. We will address this. I want

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to make it clear you need to produce your plans
for what the new structure will and I want them
final by the end of the month or else. I
don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:26:05):
Is this much ado about nothing?

Speaker 5 (01:26:06):
But this is a Bush appointed judge who said, I
don't see any reason to stop the build, but just
show me the plans.

Speaker 16 (01:26:15):
Where were the lawsuits when Barack Obama did a much
bigger renovation to put in a basketball court, and when
Harry Truman came in and made significant changes in the
White House. This is all about Trump as well. Sadly,
it's going to be a wonderful new facility. All of
these stories will be memory. Hold that there were criticisms
of that. People will move right along so I think

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the judge made the right decision.

Speaker 5 (01:26:38):
This has already started.

Speaker 16 (01:26:39):
It's the President's decision, and it's going to be a
wonderful addition to the White House complex.

Speaker 2 (01:26:45):
Mark Weavery, you're the best.

Speaker 5 (01:26:47):
I don't know if we talked before Christmas, but if
we don't, I hope you have a very merry one.

Speaker 2 (01:26:50):
My friend, Sam, do you marry Christmas?

Speaker 5 (01:26:53):
CHRISTI Gaull God Bless America two hundred and fifty years strong,
as his book.

Speaker 2 (01:27:00):
More in a moment.

Speaker 5 (01:27:03):
We're eighty kids away? Is that the coolest you are?
This audience is just the most tremendously special. I can't
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Speaker 2 (01:27:20):
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Speaker 2 (01:28:43):
Eight five five, stigall is.

Speaker 5 (01:28:45):
How you get here. Meanwhile, Alex Marlow loves you too.
I know that, and that's why I'm through the call
him colleague and friend. He's joining the team. I don't
know if you heard this yet. Alex Marlow is editor
in chief at Breitbart News. He's been doing a wildly
popular podcast for a long long time, and the people
at the top of the Salem media ecosystem correctly decided

(01:29:05):
that both he and Scott Jennings would make tremendous additions
to the network in the new year, as the Charlie
Kirk Show is obviously undergoing what it's been undergoing. Dennis
Prager before that, Alex, congratulations. First of all, welcome formally
to the Salem News Channel in the Salem Radio Network.

Speaker 7 (01:29:22):
Thanks Christ your team is so kind.

Speaker 4 (01:29:24):
It was the first email I got before even the
news was public was from your staff saying, hey, come on,
let's talk about it.

Speaker 7 (01:29:30):
And I said, I didn't even know if I can
talk about it yet. It's so early weekend.

Speaker 4 (01:29:33):
The needs out and people have been known to remind me.
Dennis Prager called the staff at Salem the faculty. I
know that's what they use in the Hewett office. I've
been filling for you a lot lately, and it's the
smartest group of people on talk radio my opinion. I've
actually thought that for a long time, even when I
wasn't with Salem. So I'm happy to be on the air.

(01:29:54):
There's just something magical about live radio. I've always loved it.
It was my first love in the media, and as
I to be back on the ear live.

Speaker 2 (01:30:02):
That's what's so cool about you and Scott.

Speaker 5 (01:30:03):
You're both lovers of radio, and while we're streaming on
the Salem News channel as well, and people listen to
your podcast and our podcast later. We're in a digital era,
and that's what I was explaining earlier. You can appreciate
this better than most. If this weren't a god honoring company,
I don't know what would become of it. Because two
human tragedies happened, almost back to back simultaneously, two stars,

(01:30:27):
I mean just outright stars of not just radio and broadcast,
but of conservatism losing Dennis's capacity to host the show,
and then of course losing Charlie Alex. It would devastate
a lot of other organizations, but Salem put their heads
together and smartly put you and Scott in this time slot,
and you're going to pick up and run with it.

(01:30:49):
And you've already done just outstanding work. Your reputations both
precede you. But you know what I'm saying, this would
devastate lesser companies. I must say, Yeah, it really.

Speaker 4 (01:30:59):
Is amazing how Salem's weather this. And I could see
Phil Boyce, who runs Talk at Salem, was immediately protective
of the whole group of us when Charlie passed, and
I know that he immediately wanted to start putting together
something that would be great both for Charlie's legacy but

(01:31:19):
also for the station. And I could see the wheels
turning right away. Charlie and I were very close. Dennis
prager obsession is well known. There were years would go
by I would miss a minute of his show. So
there's something a little bittersweet about having one of my
or having my live hour be when Charlie would have
been on the air. I was a weekly guest from Charlie'

(01:31:41):
show in the last week of his life, and I
really was deeply proud, and.

Speaker 7 (01:31:48):
He was a close friend. He really was.

Speaker 4 (01:31:49):
He got to start writing for me at brightbart news.
But Charlie kirkshow is going to go on as a
podcast and as a video cast, so people be able
to get that show. Turning Points do an amazing job,
and I think I'm just gonna be able to add
a little bit to what people's daily diet of news
is and I'm excited.

Speaker 15 (01:32:04):
To do so.

Speaker 5 (01:32:05):
We are too. We're glad to have you. Let's dive
into a couple of stories. I'm not one for this
typically other than I know if you're on the social
media sites, you see a lot of this. I know,
to America's future and our political lives, it's not that important.
But I know a lot of people are discussing this
brokered summit between Erica Kirk. You mentioned Turning Point, she's

(01:32:28):
running it now, Yeah, and Candace Owens, who has in
my view, just been outrageous. Apparently Megan Kelly alerted her
audience yesterday to the fact that she's been talking to
these women to get together and sit down and speak.
How do you How does Alex Marlow see this whole?

Speaker 2 (01:32:46):
Miss?

Speaker 15 (01:32:47):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (01:32:48):
You know it's interesting because my initial reaction was, what
good could possibly happen for Erica Kirk to sit down
with Candace to indulge Candace, who we've been watching just
completely self imlate. She's been completely lighting her self on fire.
She was a person who was beloved by the conservative
movement for years and then has just turned into this

(01:33:10):
sort of this conspiracist. But it's even beyond that, because
she's conducting herself exactly the way a divisive figure would
have been concocted in a lab by the left to
try to.

Speaker 2 (01:33:23):
Bude the right.

Speaker 4 (01:33:24):
And that's exactly the persona that she's assumed when she
built this audience of a bag of faithful who loved her.

Speaker 7 (01:33:32):
And what is Erica Kirk gonna do with Candace?

Speaker 4 (01:33:35):
And then the reaction since the meeting has been all
of Candas's fans are mad at her. Candas is making
a fool of herself, dancing to Jewish music or something
to act like the Jews bought her off on her
show to make fun of it, which is just completely ridiculous.
And Erica, who is i've gotten to know a little bit,
is a incredibly classy person. It just is coming off

(01:33:57):
looking completely classy and all this. So this is why
my initial reaction was to say, no, this is outrageous,
but That's why you sometimes withhold your takes, Chris. You
don't have to weigh in right away. You can see
where the dust settles. It's looking great for Eric as
of now.

Speaker 5 (01:34:12):
I want to ask you about another thing. I really
I didn't give it a lot of oxygen, but again
it's out there. Susie Wiles apparently sat down with Vanity
Fair some eleven times. It's reported eleven times.

Speaker 13 (01:34:25):
Now.

Speaker 5 (01:34:25):
Look, do I doubt that Vanity Fair took conversations with
Susie Wyles out of context?

Speaker 8 (01:34:30):
Not at all.

Speaker 5 (01:34:31):
I'm certain they did. I am stunned to learn that
Susie Wiles gave eleven interviews to Vanity Fair. Though I mean,
we shouldn't we talk about that.

Speaker 4 (01:34:41):
Yeah, it's one of these ones where in Trump forty five,
which is what they call the first administration in the
White House, they would do this stuff all the time,
and I would constantly pull my hair out over why
are they trying to talk to these people.

Speaker 7 (01:34:53):
They don't need to court them. We don't maga media.

Speaker 4 (01:34:57):
Our ecosystem is big enough where we don't need approval.
And all they're going to do is particularly in print,
where you'll never have the chance of getting your full quote,
your full piece, the full contacts and your answers. Of
course they're going to use it as a hit piece.
And that's exactly what this turned out to be. Now
do I think it makes a difference.

Speaker 5 (01:35:16):
I don't know.

Speaker 4 (01:35:17):
I don't know how affected Susie is by on a
personal level. But what I do know is that this
was a It seems to be an unforced error. But
although Shusee Wiles is terrific that White House.

Speaker 5 (01:35:28):
Is a pleasure to be at, they are so in fact,
Alex could I, yeah, I'm sorry to interrupt you. Could
I play for you Jade Vance's response to this shift
that I thought it really telling to your point, and
then I'd love for you to continue Number twenty two here, Paul,
if you would please. This is a Jada Advance on
the stump in Allentown talking about this question of Susie
Wiles and Vanity Fair vice.

Speaker 17 (01:35:48):
President Jacob Bogans from the Washington Post.

Speaker 3 (01:35:51):
It's good to see you and to see you too.
Merry Christmas. Thank you say to you. Unfortunately, I have
to ask a bit.

Speaker 17 (01:35:57):
Of an off topic question from affordability because snooze events
you intervene and that is the interviews that White House
Chief of Staff Susie Wilds gave to Vanity Fair, in
which she's quoted as referring to you as excuse me,
and again not my words, sir, but a conspiracy theorist
of a decade, and described your transformation from someone who

(01:36:19):
once opposed President Trump to now his vice president is
an act of political expediency.

Speaker 5 (01:36:24):
And I'd like to give you the chance to respond
to that, sir.

Speaker 3 (01:36:27):
Well, first of all, if.

Speaker 10 (01:36:30):
Susie is like I'll trust, I'll trust what you said.
I haven't looked at the article. I of course have
heard about it, but conspiracy theorists sometimes I am a
conspiracy theorist, but I only believe in the conspiracy theories
that are true.

Speaker 5 (01:36:47):
So I recommend people go listen to his entire answer.
It's about four minutes long, so I'm not going to
take four minutes Alex. But he went on to lay
out why everything that he doubted was in fact correct
to be doubted. He didn't went on to make the
case that Susie Wiles is tremendous. Everyone in the cabinet,
as well as Don Junior said yesterday, Susie is tremendous.
Trump himself said, I'm with her, She's tremendous. So where

(01:37:11):
does that leave us?

Speaker 4 (01:37:13):
Yeah, I think that there's a lot of trash talk
that goes on in the Trump White House, and that's
why when you don't have full context, it doesn't none
of the answers make a difference.

Speaker 3 (01:37:22):
To me.

Speaker 4 (01:37:23):
I've had the benefit of spending some time there, and
I'll tell you everyone gets along great, as far as
I can tell, a lot better than the prior White House,
where people were on pins and needles. They're on eggshells
because there was so much leaking against one another. This one,
there's very little leaking against one another, and Susie just
runs an amazing ship. I think part of the reason
why people have been why the president has been so
effective is because of Susie. She does make all the

(01:37:44):
trains run on time. It's a twenty four to seven job.
She gets very little press coverage, and obviously she just
got some and it's really negative. So it's kind of
horrible and I do feel bad for her. But there
are lessons here, which is that you should not be
talking to the n D Fair unless you're absolutely positive
of something positive.

Speaker 5 (01:38:01):
Is going to come out of it.

Speaker 7 (01:38:01):
But how could you ever know that?

Speaker 4 (01:38:03):
It's a total waste of time for anyone be giving
interviews to the establishing media at this point, Magamedia is
where you should be spending your time.

Speaker 5 (01:38:11):
Yeah, Alex. By the way, Jade Vance also concluded with
that comment. He said, effectively, and I'm paraphrasing, I think
we should all know better than to talk to Vanity Fair.
So he wasn't he kind of I won't say he
took a shot, but he wasn't afraid to kind of
admonish her a little bit there, I think.

Speaker 7 (01:38:24):
Absolutely, And he shouldn't have been.

Speaker 4 (01:38:26):
I mean, it's the writer, but look, it's just honest
to say that it was. This is the mistake that
this happened, because again, it's taking our eyes off of
the ball, and it means that we're reacting to it
versus setting the agenda, which is exactly why Trump and
Wiles's White Housband so effective, is that we're reacting to
the media less and we're setting the agenda more So.
It's just a reminder that the fake news is the

(01:38:48):
enemy of the people. And I just don't know how
much reck's going to get out of the article other
than it's just going to pop some people's balloons.

Speaker 5 (01:38:55):
I know you can appreciate limited time. So with about
thirty seconds to go, President Trump, rest is the nation tonight.
What do you expect to hear?

Speaker 7 (01:39:03):
I don't know what we're gonna hear from President Trump tonight.

Speaker 4 (01:39:06):
It's a but whenever he speaks, I'll tell you he
will always find a way to roast people who deserve
it and to tout various victories that he's had that
no one knows about unless you're deep in the weeds.
And so that's why I love when you talk to
the public, because he does better message framing than anyone
on his own and in his own administration, on his
own team.

Speaker 7 (01:39:26):
So I'm always curious what's the forefront of his mind.

Speaker 5 (01:39:30):
Starting in the new year, editor in chief at brightbart News,
New York Times, bestselling author of Breaking the Law, He's
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Chris, thanks for doing this and glad to be on
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Speaker 2 (01:39:54):
Hey, they're Merry Christmas to you.

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opportunity to bridge that gap. Let a kid know they've
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for this. Public school buildings across the United States are
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thousand apartments have been created from former public school buildings
across the country. According to a new report something called
rent Cafe Analysis of Adaptive Reuse Projects noted school conversions
hit an all time high last year, with the category
jumping three percent. People are taking their kids out of

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the indoctrination factories and taking their children's educations into their
own hands as it was always intended to be sending
them to Christian schools or homeschooling them, or a hybrid
of both. This is very good news. Merry Christmas. Will
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