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April 29, 2025 67 mins
The New Abnormal host Danielle Moodie and guest host Jesse Cannon weigh in on President Donald Trump’s record-low polling and how the Democratic Party can capitalize off the small wins showing that his “dam is breaking.” Then, Sarah Hinger, the deputy director of the American Civil Liberties Union’s Racial Justice Program, stops by to discuss the Trump administration’s attacks on DEI. Plus! Bible scholar Daniel McCLellan is here to talk about his new book, “The Bible Says So: What We Get Right (and Wrong) About Scripture’s Most Controversial Issues.”

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