Explore the cutting-edge intersection of AI, cryptocurrency, and startup culture in our latest episode. We spoke with Shaw Walters, Founder of Eliza Labs, about the exciting possibilities and challenges of AI agents in digital worlds, the crypto ecosystem, and token launches. Discover how these technologies are shaping a fairer, more inclusive future for investing and why real products and vision matter more than hype.
Chapters:
00:00 Defiant introduction
00:07 Episode summary
00:54 Introduction to Shaw Walters and Eliza Labs
02:27 AI agents in digital worlds
10:56 Eliza as a framework for providing what GPT doesn’t
11:25 Writing actions for AI agents
14:10 Use cases for AI agents
14:55 Moving from one-on-one to group settings
16:33 Connecting Eliza to the crypto ecosystem
19:20 Pros and cons of AI agents in financial services
21:25 AI agents as an interface
24:53 auto.fun and launching AI agents
30:08 Fairer than fair token launch
31:58 A new age of investing in startups
32:32 The government does not trust you with your own money
34:33 Crypto workarounds for investing in startups
35:43 The Trump administration and our path to regulation
36:57 Changing laws around investing in startups
38:32 Decentralized AI and opening investment to the public
39:30 What will bring AI agents back to the forefront?
44:25 How to structure better launchpads for startups
46:00 Crypto markets in their current state are casinos
49:24 Jeffy Yu and Zerebro
53:36 Why the crypto culture needs to change
55:31 Real products and real vision
58:00 Closing remarks
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