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July 1, 2025 82 mins

In this episode, I’m joined by journalist and author Michael Joseph Gross, whose book, Stronger: The Untold Story of Muscle in Our Lives, reveals the powerful and often overlooked role of muscle in human health and society—tracing its importance from ancient civilizations to modern science. We explore how our understanding of muscle has evolved through history, from symbols of strength and vitality in antiquity to current misconceptions in modern society. Michael shares insights from his extensive research, highlighting the incredible resilience of muscle tissue, debunking common myths about strength and aging, and providing compelling evidence for why everyone—no matter their age or background—should prioritize building and preserving muscle.

We cover:

  • How muscle was viewed and valued from ancient cultures through modern times
  • Why muscle mass is one of the strongest predictors of overall health and longevity
  • How muscle acts as an endocrine organ influencing metabolism, immunity, and cognition
  • The common misconceptions about strength training, especially in women and older adults
  • How the science of muscle can change your approach to fitness and longevity
  • The societal impact of muscle loss—and how we can turn it around

This conversation will leave you with a renewed appreciation for muscle—past, present, and future—and actionable insights to help you stay forever strong.

Who is Michael Joseph Gross?

Michael Joseph Gross is an accomplished journalist and author, widely recognized for his deeply researched, insightful explorations of human health and societal trends. His latest book, Stronger: The Untold Story of Muscle in Our Lives, delves into the transformative power of muscle from a biological, societal, and cultural perspective, offering groundbreaking insights into how muscle impacts our health, aging process, and overall quality of life.

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