The Giant Beastcast: Episode 302

Find out about Fights in Tight Spaces, Maquette, and that new Harvest Moon game. Maybe just stick around to learn about Story of Seasons versus Harvest Moon and why should or should not care. Same goes for NFTS! We've also got your emails, the news, and m

Episode Transcript

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Everybody, Welcome back to the GiantBeast Cast. It is Thursday, March
fourth, Friday, March fifth,episode three hundred and two. Wow,
three hundred and two. That onesounds three hundred and two sounds larger than
three hundred episodes. And you knowwhy, because it is it is.

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It sounds old. It sounds likean older person. I'm three hundred and
two. I haven't made a dutyin in, I haven't made a solid
duty uh in Uh got it?I got it, would give. I
would give a kidney to make afirm duty workshop, keep it going.

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What I wouldn't what I wouldn't giveto be twenty to just make a solid
shit? She Oh no, no, things off with a bang. I
wish to make, to make asolid bang. When I was twenty,
the bangs was so solid. Oh, we have a lot to look forward

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to. But I'm sorry. I'mactually updating the doc with the right dates
as we speak. I forgot todo it before. And I can't start
to show who cares because I becauseI have things wrong with my brain.
Okay, and if you want to, if you want to know I have
I'm a superstitious person. I needto do things they need to be this

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way. I can't stop playing dartsuntil I get three bulls eyes. I
just it's just the way things go. Your brain's broken, nothing but a
bunch of duty broken too, justin very different ways. We all have
our things. Alex Navarro is here. Yes, it's my thing. How
are you? How are you?Thank you great? I'm tired, but

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I'm good good any particular reason orjust oh, we'll talk about the reason
a little bit later when we're talkingabout video games. A lot to look
forward to here. Jeff Baccalar,how are you hey? I'm okay?
Uh, feeling good, feeling good, looking good. Yeah, it's nice
of you to lie on a podcast. I do it all the time.

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I'm looking. That's true, don'twe all? We all lie to each
other. It's not even Friday,it's Thursday. That's it. Big lie,
the big lie. That's right,that's what they've been talking about.
I'm not even actually a co hoston this show. Three two episodes.
It's don't even work. I don'teven work here. Who am I?

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Folks? We got some games totalk about. Uh, and so let's
just jump right into it. I'mgonna jump in and say uh, maquette
as a game I've been playing,I feel like you've just cussed at me
in a different language. It's gotmaquette, mat quette, maquette like that's
a thing a guy, like anEastern European guy in a track suit yells

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at a dude when he's sleeping,when that dude to sleep. Well,
I've only played a little bit ofit. It is a game is available
on Steam. I believe Anna Pernais putting it out. If you know
that publisher, it might give youa sense of what kind of the vibe
is here. It's a thoughtful littlegame. So far when I played it

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seems to be about a relationship.I don't know exactly where it's going,
but the mechanic in it is apuzzle game has you rummaging around inside this
kind of model, a model,a model. It's a first person game
a model. I think the witnessit's got you're rummaging out inside this model
that is a representation of the realthing around you. So I think we've

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seen this mechanic before, where ifyou take a small thing, let's say,
from the real world, put itin the model relative to the model
is now huge and then when youlook back at the thing in the real
world, it's now big too.You know what I'm talking about. Does
that make so it's like it's itis like a perspective thing. Yeah?
Yeah, what was that game?It was like a first person like Vauxhall

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game where it did a bunch ofthat ship. It was like it was
like an mcsher kind of jazzy joint. Yeah, there were the name I
know what you're talking about, though, there was also a game that happened
recently that played a lot with Perspectiveand I can't remember it. Also that
had a little Stanley Powable ish vibeto it. Subliminal, superliminal, superminal.

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Yeah, so that's not what Iwas thinking of. The other thing
I'm thinking of was a lot older, but yes, that that too.
So it's got some of that,but it's it's not goofy in that kind
of way. It is. Youknow, I've liked I've liked what I
played of it so far, I'mgonna keep going. I don't know how
long it goes, but again,available on Steam if I want to check
that out. It might be availablein other places. That's where I played

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it. But really where I wasspending a lot of my time was on
the new Harvest Moon game. Okay, Dan left and now you're into Harvest
Moon. Is that what's happening here? I was always in the Harvest Moon,
but I was, actually I really, I really loved Harvest Moon on
the game cube. I don't rememberwhich one that was. And then when
I feel like I've ever heard youtalk about it, you never talk about

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Harvest Moon. It's my secret.I played. Harvest Moon was the game
I had on my DS or threeDS when I moved across the country,
and when I played when we werein hotels, because when you're in a
hotel with a small child, youdon't just like leave the hotel room to
then like go hang out. Nope, you're kind of just in the hotel

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room. It's great, sounds great, just sitting in the bed, you
know, just sitting there, justjust sit there because what are you?
What are you? What are yougonna do? Uh? So then I
so, uh the the one that'sout now one world m Okay, Harvest

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Moon, Yeah, where are youplaying it? What are you doing?
Well? It's it's complicated, SoHarvest Moon's complicated. So Harvest Moon in
the United States is traditionally you know, as of I don't know. I
guess traditionally almost like ten years nowwas Song of Seasons in Japan and then

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published by Nazim in the States.I believe this is how this goes.
As Harvest Moon. That changed,okay, when the developers in Japan said,
no, we have our own UnitedStates side publishing, and then Song
of Seasons is now a Song ofSeasons. He's just reading all this ship

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in the States. I'm looking rightat you. Yeah, but I do.
I do have it up on ascreen over yere like you said.
Okay, I just want to makesure we're transparent with our audience. So
the people to Harvest Moon really becameSong of Seasons. And then Harvest Moon
changed into a different Harvest Moon herein the States, okay, and those
and then the no and those didn'tknow now the know and those who didn't
think I knew, Oh I knew. So what is Harvest Moon? So

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I so looking at this. Ilooked at the upcoming release calendar, and
there are both. There's a HarvestMoon and a Song of Seasons coming out
this month. So I was like, oh, I should check I should
see what's going on here. Ishould see I should see what the state
of virtual farming is. And I'mgonna say not digging this Harvest Moon.
Oh No, In fact, Iam frustrated by this Harvest Moon. It

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is aimless. And then like ina game where you're farming, you don't
want it to feel like work.Does that make sense? I know that
probably doesn't, but like, youdon't want it to feel like work,
and the game is not especially goodabout telling you what you should be doing
next to progress, so you cankind of just sit there and being like,
ah, don't know what. Iguess I'll just sell some more tomatoes

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and just I guess I'll try andget a horse. Maybe I'll get a
horse. And then suddenly they're like, oh, this bridge is opened up.
Oh I'll go here. Uh shouldI move? And so this one
has you uh sorry, story ofSeasons, that Song of Seasons that that
proves that's the other Harvest Mos game. So this game has your This Harvest
Moon game has you moving your farmaround to different places, like shifting through

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time and space. No, likedifferent zones, like you're gonna farm on
the beach. Now you're gonna farmin the sand. You're gonna farm in
these different areas, and so theseare new farms. They are not you
transplanting your existing farm to a newlocation, which just seems like a terrible
waste of resources. You don't well, when you say waste of resources,

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you're you're taking a farm, butit doesn't feel like you're ever just building
a thing, because you're just collapsingthe farm into these new plots that are
kind of they're already. I justI'm not digging it. I don't know,
I'm not I'm not getting that satisfactionfrom these games that are like,
Hey, I'm gonna build, I'mgonna lay out my crops a certain way,

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I'm gonna get my cows and mychickens, and I'm gonna milk and
I'm gonna do all this stuff.And I'm just not feeling it. Man,
I'm not feeling maybe I've changed,or maybe Story of Seasons is where
I should be hanging out and notHarvest Moon. You guys still with me
on this? No? I checkedout, Like I think I'm mostly with

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you. I see what you're saying. I look, I don't have the
Harvest Moon experience personally to relate directly. But there are games like this that
I have played, and I thinkthe aimlessness you were talking about and the
structure you were talking about does notsound like what you seem to come to
these games. Four. It's it'slike they saw It's like they took a
little for this one. There's likea bit of Star Dow Valley in there.

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There's like a mine you can goin and get or but that's that
wasn't fun. Well, we alsowe do, yeah, this is the
point. We do live in apost Star Dow Valley world now, where
you know, I to say thatit is good, that's yeah. It
is not completely eaten Harvest Moon's crops, but it's pretty close to it.
And I feel like, like,do people want to come to a Harvest

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Moon game now for something that addressesthat and maybe tries to find a way
to fit it more into the spaceof what you know, starting Value was
doing, or are they coming toit specifically because they just want the Harvest
Moon thing again and again and again. Well, I think also Harvest Moon
and Story of Seasons, the whatHarvest Moon traditionally was. I have tried

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to split right this is I thinkthis was twenty fourteen, maybe with the
check in correct me when they split. I think they're trying to define Harvest
Moon now is a kind of differentseries where Story of Seasons is staying traditional
to the Harvest Moon. I justthink what Harvest Moon and this one is
doing is not for me. LikeI don't necessarily want to explore the world

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and meet new people and like learnhow to grow crops in the sand.
Like I wanted to have a farmand make it the best farm I possibly
can, and I want to workuntil I can get the thing that turns
my vegetable into seeds again, soI don't have to buy seeds anymore.
That's that's all I want to do. And I want to simple man.
Here's a simple man. Yeah.So so let's see, I'm gonna play

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a little bit more of it,and then we'll record that and then hopefully
play the new Story of Seasons whenthey comes out. Yeah, I will.
I promised to sit in with youfor that. If you need someone
to talk about your farming and yourHarvest mooning and what have you, I
am down for that. I willlisten. I'll be there for you and
your farm. I was getting reallyfrustrated with it. It was the first
game I think. I turned tomy kids as they're watching me playing and

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be like and they're like, Oh, is this a kid's game or is
this an adults game? I waslike, I think this game is boring,
and I think, and I think, I don't think you'd have fun
with it. You should keep playingDragon Quest Builders too. So, uh,
I don't know if they'll play it. I'll see, I'll see what
happens there. But like, Iwant to talk to somebody about this game.

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Is anybody playing this game? Nobody? I need I need to I
need to talk. I got thingsI need to talk about, this,
this one world, this Harvest Moon. But yeah, we'll see. I
think I want to say story ofSeasons later this month, so we'll see

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how that goes. It's also abit charmless. Also, the people in
the world seem to be in somelike post apocalypse or like kind of the
set up for idiocracy where they don'tknow how plants work anymore, and they
don't know that cows need to eatand all the cows are sick, and

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it's like, yeah, we're headedthere. Don't don't don't sleep on that.
We are fast approaching and like youryour character has like a book and
they're like, what's this saying?Your book? Where's where's the moon?
God? It's like you got feedhim grass, damn. And it's just

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like you're a wizard. Uh likeyeah, put these things in the ground.
What Yeah, I don't know,man, it's weird. It's weird,
all right? Yeah? Did Imake all that up? Yeah?
I don't know when after I saidthe moon, like I I instantly thought
of yesterday with this like SpaceX starshipthing. Did you guys see this?

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No? I saw it blow up. This this this gigantic like they were
testing this gigantic rocket. They launchedit like I don't know how many mile
altitude I don't know, and thenthey like turned off this rocket. It's
big. It was like thick.It's like it looked like a well,
it looked like a big dick,but it also looks like something the duck

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Dodgers would fucking fly. Yeah,it looked like like think of every dick
in a bathroom stell you've ever seendrawn. Then they were like, make
that a rocket, and that's whatit was. I mean, I've been
testing out this design for seventy yearson bathroom malls, I guess, you
know. So the thing goes andthen the the the object was to have
it like free fall like flat likelike on its belly, and then at

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almost to the last minute, itlike fires all these raptor rockets is what
they're called, which I thought waspretty cool, and then straightens up and
lands on its butt again and itdid it, and then the thing and
then it blew out. It wascrazy. It was crazy. It was.
It was when with a mid clapwhen yeah, I don't know,

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I didn't see like anyone working,right, Yea, all these tests are
okay, so make sure before Istarted goofing on an explosion with a no,
no for sure. But then it'sjust like and I was watching it
live and you could like it gotback, it landed and it was steamy,
right, So like the feet Iwas watching was like, oh,

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this could just be like venting oflike gas or depressurizing or whatever it was.
And then like you saw a littlefie, You're like, oh,
that's not great, and then allof a sudden bloom, oh man,
And it was wild. Anyway,these days, it's safer to assume a
space X rocket will explode eventually versusnot. I mean they were there was
a while there where they were justtipping over, remember that when they would

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trying to just land again and they'dbe like, yeah, I don't know.
SpaceX has done the most successful stuff. Yeah yeah, but they're they're
they're commercially launching stuff into space withthey're they're they're bringing humans, uh to
space stations. It's just that anyway, we don't have to go down the
rabbit hole there. But I thoughtthat was yeah, while I'm watching stuff

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blow up, But you know,I wish that, you know, taxpayer
dollars weren't going into all these thingsblowing up over and over again. I
wish it was just Elon Musk's fuckingmoney. Oh, I'd be okay for
it. If NASA can go butblow stuff up up. If NASA on
its own wants to go do that, that's a different thing. That's right.
I want my stuff to blow up. That was well again, I

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gotta I just gotta say, like, go look at what that rocket design
came out. Like, it's justit's you're just sort of like, you
know, it was almost like ananachronism where it's like, we're launching a
space shuttle designed in eighteen thirty butwith like twenty twenty one technology. It
was so weird. Anyway, wasit on like a giant sling shot?

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They just like just pull this giantsling shot back. This is gonna work.
It's a big rubber band. Guys. Have you ever have you ever
launched it? Have you ever seena T shirt? Canon? It's gonna
work? Oh shit? Uh?Story of seasons, Harvard's Moon. The
story continues. I'm sure I'll havemore in the coming weeks. I continue

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to play Dragon Quest Builders too.I continue to enjoy it. I continued
to try and hit my tablet targets, continuing to build stuff. Yeah,
I I it's a it's a game. It is my retreat game for a
while. So I think I'm startingto close the book on it. I
think I'm gonna be done there.It's not the same, you know,

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it's not the same exact thing asa Harvest Moon or something like that,
but it has all these games havesimilar You build the thing, you get
the thing to build the thing,to do the thing. So do it.
Yeah, the thing. I'm tryingto think of anything else that I
have jumped into a little more Valheim, but not too much. Alex,
what's going on? Well, I'mgonna start off here before I talk about

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some new games that I'm playing,I want to talk about an old game
that I've been playing this week.Now. I try not to spend too
much time talking about my drum streamson here because I get it's not to
everyone's taste, not what everyone's lookingfor necessarily, But I need to talk
about a game here that I'm gonnabe playing tonight. That is Guitar Hero
Metallica. Oh, that's funny,continuing, We have an email about this
later, Okay, Oh we do, Okay, Yeah, well it's it's

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even funnier because apparently this week isthe thirty fifth anniversary of Master of Puppets
and I didn't, so this alljust worked out in a four time this
way. Great. The reason I'mtired today is because the last couple of
nights I've been practicing this game andplaying it. And this is the first
one and one of the few gamesthe Guitar Hero games that introduced double bass
charting. If you are into thatsort of thing, it is a metal

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game makes a certain amount of sense, how do you How does that work
instrument wise? So the way itworked with the original controller was I believe
you could use there was a therewas something set up on the original guitar
Hero drum controller where you could pluginto pedals. He just bought two pedals
and then they daisy chained each otherand then that's how that worked. But
later on, when the advent ofmedia adapters came along, they basically just

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made it so that you could justhook up any bass pedal and electronic drum
kit to do it, which Iis what I have here. Could you
have a double bass pedal? Yes, I use it in my general work
the metal he's like a metal hardcoredrummer. Of course it does. I
am. But I'm going to bereal with you. My duals is a
little bit rustyer than the rest ofmy drumming, especially this year because I

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have not had an opportunity to reallydo anything double bass in like a year.
And I can air double bass realwell, you think you can,
and then you reach your feet andthen when you get in front of a
kit, you're like, oh,that's not how this. Yeah, that
doesn't sound like a rhythm at all. Yeah, that's kind of where I
started out at. So this isone of the games that does not have
a no fail mode, I shouldsay right up here on the top.

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And for the most part, it'snot that bad. But there is like
a Slayer song in there that hassome real wild shit in it, and
there's a couple of those early Metallicasongs that have some real wild shit in
it. So are you are you? Are you playing an expert and you're
trying for five stars? Is thatthe the goal? No, the goal

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is to get through them. That'sreally like, just do it without failing.
I'm not like, if I canget five stars, fucking fantastic.
Okay, if we're being completely realhere, considering this is I've played guitar
here in Metallic in the past whenit came out, but I did not
own it, I played it,did not play the whole thing, have
not played every song in it,and I definitely did not have a double
bass setup for it. So inmost cases, this is gonna be like

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the second or third time I've playedany of these songs. So if I
can survive, that's good enough forme. Okay, great, great,
but hey, good enough for me? Good luck? Thank you? It
is just it's a last night.I was the sweatiest I have been since
the summer. Let me put it. Okay, yeah, you're gonna be

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a real Okay. Ride the Lightning. Yes, that's actually one of the
only songs that's not in this game. What so Okay? Very briefly,
Metallica guitaro Metallica came out during thetime when Activision was locking up bands to
exclusive agreements. Ride the Lightning isone of only three songs that were ever

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released as DLC in Rock Band.Huh. None of those three songs are
in this game. Okay, butthe two that were on rock Band discs
are Enter Sandman and Battery. They'reboth in this game, but those were
never sold as DLC in rock Band. They were never available outside those discs.
Know the business, So whatever whateverdeal they signed with rock Band,

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someone just said, yeah, fuckit, it's worth not having Ride the
Lightning in here to not have asong that was apparently released in Rock Band.
I don't know the reasoning for it. I have no fucking idea what
the hell is going on there,But not having Ride the Lightning it's a
little glaring. It does feel like, Yeah, it was the one I
wanted to pull out right away punhe tried to make. Yeah, it's
right, nearly everything else you wouldwant. There's lightning, lightning bolts right

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in the Metallica logo. I knowit just right there. You want to
write, Are all right, Alex? What else? What else have I
been playing? So you sat inon this with me, I'm still playing
more of fights in tight spaces.Fights in tight spaces, yes, And
you seem to take to that alittle bit more after you saw what it
was. I did remember last episode. I was like, oh, here

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we go deck building game and Iwas like, oh, this works.
I like, I like what's happeninghere. It seemed like this mix of
into the breach and super Hot andyou know deck building there too. Yeah
yeah, but not too much,not too much, not enough to make
it go not so much. Yeah. Yeah, So I liked what I
saw. Yeah, it's cool.Like so, I've been playing in a

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bunch after we recorded that unfinished,and I'm I've managed to get to the
end of the second set of missions, though I've not beaten the boss there
yet. So you know it is. It is a roguelike in that when
you you die, you can effectivelystart over, though you can start from
any of the different individual chapters ofmissions, Like so if I unlock the

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next one, I can start fromthere if you want, but you won't
get as many you won't have asmany power ups to start off that mission
with, So there is actually kindof a risk reward there. Okay,
so you're you're run through the earliermissions builds your deck in a way that
won't get if you start later on. Yes, and I actually the other
thing is that like if you needto quit any point, it saves your
progress, so like you know,you don't lose your run if you turn

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it off and then come back.It's just you know, you just once
you're dead, then you kind ofhave to start over from wherever. Okay,
because it seems like there was alot there were a lot of chapters,
like at least like there's five,I believe, and each of those
is you know, at least acouple hours long or an hour long,
I'd say, you know, dependingon I'd probably about an hour if yeah,

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I mean you beat that first oneand under an hour or it depends
on how much time you are spendingthinking about your moves, you know,
like I wouldn't say that any partInto the Breach was super long on its
own, but you know, therewere times when I was just sitting there
staring at a move for like twentyminutes and didn't realize it, and I'd
be like, I could see myselfgetting into that headspace with this one.
Yeah, there's an interesting mix upthat makes it more or different than Into

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the Breach. It's the deck buildingpart, right. You can you get
your hand for this round and you'relike, I have nothing to do or
like that. You know, Idon't have the move. I have no
good offensive moves. They're just defensiveslip and slide and but but it has
that positional play where enemies attacks aretelegraphed in a way that you want to

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move yourself out of that line offire and if you can maybe move somebody
into that line of fire, Yeah, which which is interesting. I like
that. And it's got the ringout thing too, So if you POSI
the guy in just the right way, you can you know, kick them
straight in the gut and then justpush them out of door, which is
great, or over a bar.Apparently that one forks too. Yeah,
that's cool. It's it's a neatthing. Like I said, it's an

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early access, it doesn't seem likeit's going to be a long early access
period because it seems relatively content complete, and I'm curious to see what they
actually change over time. But Ifeel like that game is totally worth it
for what it is right now.Yeah, yeah, twenty five I believe.
Okay, yeah, okay, theother one unfinished up, unfinishes up

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now, and another thing we recordedand another fights Tight Spaces. Is the
name of that game. The nameof this other game, which also costs
twenty five dollars on Steam and isnot an early access, is just out
and we have a quick look upfor is Retromania Wrestling. Okay, so
this game is billing itself as adirect sequel to Technosi's WWF wrestle Festa.

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Cool. Do you remember that arcadegame? Yes? Maybe? Yes,
Well I think I get that there'sSlam Masters and there's wrestle Fest and what
was the what was like the lookof it. The look of it was
like kind of bulky sprites. Butthis isn't the one with the superpowers.

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No, that is a WrestleMania.The arcade game that was the Yeah,
yeah, that's not where Bam BamBigelow is not actually shooting fire in the
No no, no, no,this is this is much more like just
Arcade regular wrestling. But it hada really good roster for the time,
like it had all like the mainI mean, look at this point,
do I want to play a gamewith Hulk Hogan and the Ultimate Warrior in

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it? Not really, but forthe time, those were the wrestlers you
wanted. Had the Road Warriors,Demolition, you know, Jake the Snake,
all those guys. Like it wasgood for what it was. So
this is the Billy itself as adirect sequel, but it had does not
have ww licensing at all, andit does not play exactly like wrestle Fest,

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which I think is fair. Itwas a wrestle lists like a two
button game. It was not particularlycomplicated. This is like a four button
game with a couple of bumper usesas well, but that aren't they aren't
main it's it's similar. The grapplingand attack system is a little bit similar
to what fire Pro does, butit is simplified, and it is a

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roster of wrestlers that is just abunch of guys from the indies and a
few classic wrestlers too, real peopleOkay, but they're but they're not WW
licensed. It's guys that are likeso like whatever, what's like whatever Sandman's
real name is, well, no, so like Tommy Dreamers in it,
you know, like that's probably oneof the bigger names. You remember,
Nobody owns Tommy Dreamer. You knowwho ecw you know, Ptarmy Dreamer.

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Of course I'm saying nobody owns likehis thing. That's just his name,
that's the name he goes by,and it is not owned by anyone else.
Okay, interesting, Yeah, solike there's a few guys like that.
It's mostly a lot of like youngerindie wrestlers, you know, guys
that have been in like Impact andmaybe had a cup of coffee in a

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w at this point, you know, stuff like that. And it's not
bad, but like so, it'salso very thin for what it is.
It is not a very deep gameand has a few modes of play.
There's a story mode, which islike fine, it's it's it's a goofy
little spin on, you know,it's just wing. Yeah, it's decent.
There's like a Gauntlet mode where youcan challenge with a title. There's

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a Royal Rumble you know that kindof stuff. But that's it. And
it's only sixteen wrestlers at launch,and they're adding a few via DLC,
I guess. But the problem Ihave with it is that it's fun enough,
but it's not so different from somethinglike a Firepro to where it feels
like it's really worth the money,especially concidering Firepro has a gargantuan volume of

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content, and any one of thosewrestlers certainly not included on that roster can
be easily found in the Steam Workshopand download it you like. So if
you want to run those matches betweenthose wrestlers, someone has already made seventeen
versions of that wrestler and you canfind the one you like. So with
sixteen wrestlers, is there even aRoyal Rumble mode? Yeah, but it's

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just sixteen wrestlers. You can royallyrumble with sixteen is like one of the
big all you need to force them, okay, forms a tag team.
That's a tag team. I missboth. You can have eight guys in
the ring at a time and thenyou know, aually it'll run through all
sixteen wrestlers. And they're kind ofdone. But I mean it wrestles with

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the same way it had, likethat that game had like twelve fourteen wrestlers
or something, and that was alsoa Royal Rumble. So all right,
well but you got you got yourTime and Dreamer. You got your Time
Dreamer, and you have another wrestlinggame in the mix, which is probably
good for the genre totally. Likepeople have been hurting for alternatives to the

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WWE games, I just think thatthere are more interesting alternatives out there.
And if you don't like Firepro,I get it. You want something simplified,
I get it. I just Ithink that the appeal of this one
is somewhat limited, well anything elsethat's kind of in it. I am
still working my way through percent offive Strikers, but I've kind of taken
a break on that one to playsome other stuff. But I'm still enjoying

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it fun So Retromania Wrestling also,I think up on the side right now,
Yes, Quick Look is up onthe site now. It is out
for PC right now. There areconsole versions, I guess coming, but
they have not been announced for aday yet. M Jeff, Hey,
anything new in the world of Bacalar. Yeah, I'm doing more tear Down.

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I really enjoy that game. Ijust stole a couple of cars that
one. No, no, it'snot. Oh wait, oh sorry,
you at the docks. Yeah,I'm still the docks. Okay, you're
not at the placial like mansion yet? No, Okay, what I don't.
Yeah, there's weird rules in thatgame, but I get it.

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It's a game. It has tohave weird rules or it wouldn't be interesting.
No, but I'm really enjoying allthat. So maybe I might be
streaming that again. We'll see.I've been playing a good amount of Little
Nightmares too. Oh I keep meaningto jump on that. Yeah, yeah,
I dig it. It's good,better than the first one from I

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think it is. I think itis. I'm no, I'm not done
with it, but I've a coupleof hours and yeah, I guess I
was like, you know it definitely. I like it for a lot of
the reasons. I like the firstone because it basically scratched my play Dead
itch that need scratching more than everysix years. So I think that game,

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you know, does that for mebetter than any other sort of I
want to call it a clone,because I think this game starting to stand
on enough on its own legs whereI mean, look, it is definitely
heavily influenced by stuff like that,but uh, I enjoy the separation that
it's able to pull off. Soand you know it operates in a different

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capacity too, where three dimensionally limboor limbo and what was the other one?
Yeahs inside outside inside, Yeah,it's definitely inside, just inside.
Okay, So I'm doing that uhin inside out, in up and down

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inside Nemo Yep, that's the one, yes, Okay, anyway, that
ship doesn't matter, so yeah,so so yeah, great, great flicks.
So anyway, I'm enjoying that andI recommend people check that out.
Uh. I did Guns and Rosespinball stream. It was very exciting.

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I am, I got, Iwas able to get bailed out of jail.
It was a very seamless alperience.No slash the one bailing ye out
of that. I'm not sure Accelhad much to do with anything. Uh
that game is good. That gameis so good, and I had a

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really good couple of runs where Ieven did a couple of things I had
never done before h outside of streaming, which I was really jazzed to get
captured during the stream. There's thismode where like, so you know,
you basically play the game and thenyou earn the right to play a song.
You play a song, and ifyou complete the song, you then

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have a very closed, a verylimited window opportunity to qualify for an encore.
Okay, and I like nailed It. I like I had only done
that once before. Big time Jackpost that game is so freaking crazy.
I love it. So go backand check that out because that was really
it's a really good time. Didyou watch Nailed It? No? No,

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No, that was you told meabout that like Sunday or something,
dude, was it? Yeah?But like, yeah, I know how
it is. You don't you knowthat time, the time between weekends doesn't
exist for like Sunday, it goes, it goes Sunday night to midnight and
then Friday at six pm. That'swhat my brothers always like, what do
you what do you mean you didn'tcatch up on one division? I was

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like, dude, it's only beenthree weeks. I was supposed to watch
one full episode in three weeks.I'm about to follow all that up with
like I've had a lot of timeto build mechanical keyboards. But uh,
I've had a lot of time tobuild mechanicals, your mechanical keyboards, dude.
So I started doing like the soldering. Now I'm I'm it's just fun.

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Like I added an old screen toa keyboard. What is it display?
Uh? It just well, soit just displays like the layer you're
using. Okay, so you canuse like a combination to unlock another layer
and then it tells you like thelike what what lock would you have locked?
Yeah, basically like what the littleLEDs would signify on a regular key

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This does it with like text withwithin an old screen. I did.
I did all the soldering myself.Is it was it my vape pens.
Look at that little pencil, alittle solder pencil. Does that charge me
a USB? What is that?No? So it has a it's a
it's powered by electricity a battery.No, it's just it's got a wire

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here, like this wire? Doesit? Wow? Look at that?
That's great? And then when youturn it on, can you make put
it closer to the camp? Sorry? If you're listen to the audio version,
Jeff is holding up one of thesmallest soldering pencils i've ever seen.
Wow, that is banana. Itsays like press a button to start.
It gets all hot, of course, and then it melts the solder to

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a thing. Oh no, no, that it heats the components and then
the solder flows from the components.That's not how I saw her. Maybe
I saw her wrong. Look thekeyboard works, so yeah, so that's
cool. What kind of sorry youwind up using? They get the lead

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free sodder? Did you ended upusing the lid? Know? You need
lead. Lead's importantly everybody needs lead. That's why they call it lead solder.
You know, I got really worriedabout breathing in soldering like fumes,
and you know that you don't wantto breathe that in. So I got
like a fan that sucks it upinto a into a weird like black sponge

(36:22):
charcoal filter. Yeah's it super loud. It's it's louder than it probably should
be. Yeah. So look,well, look, everyone in the chat
is freaking out about my soldering skills. I did good. I think I
know what you mean. You heatup the component that's supposed to have the
solder on it, and then whenyou touch the sodder to the thing.

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It should just melt onto it.It well, it hits the tube things
and then the sodder flows, justflows, and you get a nice shiny
little solder joint. You don't wanta cold solder joint. A shiny little
solder joint. You'll get there.Hey listen, Yeah, if you're doing
keyboards, you have probably soldered inmore than I have at this point,
because how many keys are on thatguy? Then thing this one I just
did has eighty how many how manysolder points per key? Two? Three?

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Yeah, so like you if you'vedone one hundred and eighty or one
hundred and sixty some odds solder joint, that's at this point you're doing all
right? Man? Yeah, Ithink I did. I think I did
pretty good. So no, it'sbeen really fun. Like you know,
there's all these weird PCBs in thekeyboard scene where like this one supports OLED
screens and you're like, all right, that's great, let me solder this

(37:28):
old screen to the PCB and it'slike, then what the fuck do you
do? And like all you know, I don't know. Do you think
those have pins that go through theYeah? So the pins go through the
PCB holes and then you solder onthe other side, and then you gotta
like build firmware and flesh the keyboardwith it. And then like I had
this Eureka moment where I got thel where I got the OLED screen to
turn on, and then it waslike, well, then, what the

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fuck do you like? How doyou program that? It's a mess.
But you know, it's been areally good hobby that I'm really getting too.
I'm at the point now where likeI've acquired and bought so many of
these is like you know, keyboardkits, and I'm just like building them
all and like seeing what I like, seeing what switches I like, and
the ones I don't like, I'llI'll give away or I'll sell, uh,
and you know, I'll do itthat way. But I'm really enjoying.

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How long did it's? Sorry Istepped on you. How long do
you did it take you to solderedthat keyboard? Was that one session?
Did you do it in one night? Yeah? The soldering took maybe twenty
minutes. WHOA, yeah for you? That pencil heats up? Then?
Huh? What is it called?Right away? Three hundred degrees celsius?
What's that in fahrenheit? Look likeliterally like Wolfman Alpha Alpha. Do I

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look like wolf Alpha? Uh?Huh? Who the hell do I look
like? What is what is thatin fahrenheit? Okay, that's cool?
Who makes you a little soldering pencil? I like that thing? Uh?
I don't know, I gotta it'san Amazon no name special Okay, I
have no idea. I couldn't evensay Amazon Basics. It's uh, they
sold it for five come frustration freepackaging. Good for you. Soldering's fun.

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Degree. It's five hundred and seventytwo degrees fahrenheit. That sounds really
hot. No, I thought Ithought you go higher? Yeah, so
yeah, that's been super fun.I love all this stuff. I think
I found a switch that I reallylike forever now, a drock t one
switch. If you're worried, we'reconcerned about which switch I like? Called
the d d rock only on thefloor t one t one tactile switch.

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What is it like? What?What's it come comparable too? Is it
a like a red blue? No, I'm way past that ship, not
even like this is not even onthe spectrum. It's like the Childhood's end
a fucking keyboard switches. Wow,it's got a smoky housing you're holding up

(39:53):
there smokey housing with like a bluestems, and it's from off one of
my transform if I find out,I think one of my transformers fell off
the shelf. Look at that thing. It's really good. It's got a
little bit of a factory lube onthe stem there, so you don't have
to reloose. I didn't relouse it. I like how it feels. I'm
a tactile guy. So that's mysituation right now. What makes good?

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What's the like? What is thewine? The wine taste comparison? No,
that's a good. That's a good. Ask like a lot of people
like browns because it's got that littlebump. This has a more pronounced bump
at the start of the key press. And I also like the sound of
it. It has this really likeclick it into your my thockey like sort
of I don't know, you thinkit's gonna work if I do it?

(40:37):
Hold on. This is like,okay, look at your cord on your
keyboard. Okay, keep going,cool as funge, keep going. Hold
on, I'm gonna open up nopad here, all right? Okay,
so this is what it sounds like. I really like like the space bar
sounds real nice, Like, yeah, you like that. Yeah, sounds
a little bushy to me. Okay, yeah, okay, you guys fucking

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love it. I love it.What is that cord on your keyboard?
Why is that so thick? Becauseit's a coil. It's a coil.
It's like a special core cable andit's called an aviator cable because it's got
this like aviator clip in the middleof it. Wow, and you can
like disconnect. I don't know,I'm into this. That's you're in so

(41:24):
deep. It's great anyway, itsounds so deep that I've that I've like
lost understanding of regular keybo Like Ibuilt one for a friend, Like h
one of Stacy's friend was having abirthday or something, and we built our
keyboard for a birthday. She's superjazzed about the one I built for Stacey.

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Oh really, they're wait, you'resharing keyboards? What are we doing
here? No, I built akeyboard for somebody I know, but I'm
saying, like, if people comingover touching these keyboards, what are you
doing? Yeah, Stacy showed someoneI may Stacy an Alice in Wonderland keyboard.
What yeah? I mean, whatmakes it? Mostly the key caps.
The key caps are all alice inWonderland and a lot of like chars

(42:06):
hat smoke and and yeah like that. That's that's that's that's cool where all
I'm living in right now? Youknow, it's a that's a good time.
It's good time for this hobby.I think, do you have a
solder sucker? Can I see yoursolder sucker? I don't have a solder
sucker. I realized, like Ipro if I want to like, no

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stick around. No, a soldersucker, alex Is is like, uh,
the way you remove solder from asolder joint, right am? I
You can also wi sodder something,you can if you have that wick rated
wick, but you don't make anymistakes. No, I didn't make any
mistakes the other day, like oneshot. Everything was in in it to
win it. So the next thingI'm gonna build for myself is a it's

(42:52):
called a barley corn and it's it'sa completely through whole pcbing. You have
to solder all the diodes in ittoo, so look it up. It's
it's this wild aesthetic to it.It's got like a clear sort of like
top row where like you can seeall the soldering. It's like a plexiglass

(43:15):
cover that that sits on top ofit. I'm really excited about it because
it just looks super cool. Solike a little it'll come with like a
dime bag worth like components and stufflike yeah, exactly, yeah, I
already got it in the mail.It's like very very it seems like way
more work. Hey, you needto have they go one way. Well,
I'm a diode. I have tobend all the diodes too. Yeah,

(43:36):
because you put them through the holeand then you got to bend them
something through the school A good wiresnip, just what happens. Yeah,
yeah, Jesus. So I'm tryingto think what else I've been doing.
I want to talk more about stuff, did you? Yeah? I mean,
like I if someone asked this yet, how much does it cost this?

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This kit? Here's like two hundredfor everything and the caps and the
and the caps I had the capsI had laying around. You know,
you can you can probably get awaywith spending under two hundred dollars on a
fully customed kit. You might I'mbe getting like the best stuff, but

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uh but yeah, yeah, sothat's my soldering situation, right, now
look the like I said, thepinball stuff, the pinball repair stuff.
Yeah, it was such an easy, you know, sort of pivot into
this world because I had been solderinga bunch of shit together on all the
pinball stuff. So now yeah,I mean it's just it's I find it.

(44:40):
I find some zen in the wholething I do. I find it
very relaxing. I find it verypeaceful. Uh. There is, you
know, stuff, you're making stuff. You know a lot of people don't
get you know, this scene isso much bigger than I really thought it
was until I really started to digdeeper and it is so massive. Then
there's so many companies and creators andstreamers and just cool you know, creative

(45:07):
people. It's it's it's it's alot of fun to you're part of this
world. Yeah, i'd like toconsider that. I'm trying to break into
it. Here's here's my here's myoverboard. Uh recommendation to you. That
is bad recommendation. If you're maybeI don't want to hear it. Then
if you ever find yourself in asituation where you're doing more than like three

(45:29):
or four desoldering things and you're like, oh, because desoldering sucks. I'd
never want to do it. I'drather throw it away by yourself. Invest
the money. They're not that cheap. In a desoldering gun. Yeah,
I oh, that's the bees knees. You just zip zip zip those through
whole things just pop right out.And then if you're doing through hole,

(45:51):
I'm sorry. If you're doing surfacemount stuff, invest in a hot air
station. Won't regret it won't regretit just blows hot air right on a
solder. Yeah, surface stuff,I think like that's like level eight thousand.
I'm maybe only at level like seven, level two, but you'll get
that. You're gonna get I mean, you're gonna be putting keyboards in a
toaster oven to fucking melt them onthe little pads soon. It was I

(46:13):
had a I had a fried harddrive, and I was like, I
was like, wait a minute,I got a soddering higher and minimal knowledge.
No, No, it's okay,sure, because I like almost like
I got it to spin again.It wasn't spinning. I got it to
spin again. I didn't get itto read anything, but I got it
to spin again. Okay, that'sthe first step. It's better than that's

(46:36):
day first step of spinning. Everyoneknows that. I feel like, once
it's a platter, it was aplatter drive. So I feel like once
you crack open that that case ona platter drive, if you're not in
a clean room, that thing isdone. Like those Now that's wrong.
You can you you're saying you're notdropping a like a skin on that thing
and that those shiny little platter No, you don't when you open a drive,

(46:58):
when you repair a drive PCB,oh, the interfaces with the PCB,
that interfaces with the motherboard. It'sseparate from the past. You don't.
You don't touch the palace. Okay, so you weren't. You weren't
in there with it. I wasn'tlike it wasn't like manually spinning around like
a flake pal and being like,I wonder where the error put a little

(47:22):
monocle and you're looking at that fladderwhere it is. I don't have like
an electron tub microscope, like lookingat this thing. Now, what are
you what are you soldering on?Was it the molex connected? Now the
pc what are you soldering on thatPCB? The one of the I took
off one of the because I thinkI think it was like over. I

(47:45):
think it got fried with too muchelectricity. So you know what happens is
the way I understand it is thereare basically like thresholds in line in the
PCB that accounts so like so it'llbe like, okay, I'll fry so
the rest of the hard drive doesn'thave to die like a fuse. Right,
the fuse popped and I was goingto replace the fuse. But their

(48:07):
surface mounted on that they're like alike a millimeter big. Yeah, so
you can cook it up and takeit off with flyers. I took it
off and then by bypassing it,that's how I got it to spin.
Oh but you didn't buy a newone. No, I was playing it
fast, Okay, you just youjust kind of jumped it because it didn't
because the stuff on the drive wasjust like okay for you. Okay,

(48:30):
so you jumped it, jumped inall right, we got we got still
still over linings in the quarantine.Okay, you hacked it. I'm sorry,
Alex. I wish I could relateto something, Alex. When when
when the twenty thirty seven comes aroundand your rock band controller finally dies,
you're gonna go. You're gonna jetback on and be like you have they

(48:52):
don't exist that you have to youhave to fix this thing. Uh,
and then get it to cost eightthousand dollars on eBay Right now, I
cannot buy another one, that's right. Yeah, And I will somehow make
the lights turn back on, butit won't work. That's the first set.
That's the first first. That's right. All right? Uh no,

(49:16):
alright, we have stuff for news, but not right now. Yeah,
alright, we're gonna we're gonna getour barley corns out of here for just
a little bit. We're gonna takea quick break. I'm gonna run this
ad and uh we'll be back injust a little bit and play the music.
Here's to stick around, folks,the Giant Beast Cast. We'll return

(49:42):
and we are back, and it'stime for the news. Hello Alex,
Hello Jeffy, dude, dirty.I haven't playing a lot of Call of
Duty lately. There's a new matter. There's an how's it well? Because
there's a new ma Okay, Ithink it's called apocalypse. It's like an
Indie It's like an Indiana Jones map. What does that mean? It feels

(50:06):
like and that actually sounds pretty stupidwhen you say it is like a airplane
that you can like push the guyinto a propeller. Now, but there's
like there's like it looks like,you know, sort of like ruins and
then uh, I don't know,like jungle ruins, like I don't know
why. I just get it IndianaJones sort of like vibe from it.

(50:30):
I don't know, And we callit Indiana Jones map. Everyone knows what
I mean. Yeah, you sayit in call of duty. So look,
it's fine, it's fun. Anyway, someone say in the chest this
it's a Vietnam jungle map, sojust like it could be the wrong conflict

(50:52):
anyway. Mail, let's do thenews. Hey, here's the news.
And do you guys get your emailyour class Action Epic games? No?
No, no, okay, wellthen I guess you won't get your your
v bucks then, or your yourRocket League cash, or I guess you're

(51:12):
fifty dollars. I didn't actually pullthis into the news. I was just
asking during the break, but it'sgot this email because I just saw it,
so I didn't have time to goover all of it, but I
did. I got an email thatsays, you know the clash act clash
clash clash of clash of actions,csh of action. Tell me, let

(51:36):
me read this that I just pulledup Epic Games class action lawsuit accused Epic
Games of violating consumer protection laws,negligently misrepresenting in games items values in Fortnite
and Rocket League, and preventing minersfrom exercising contractual disaffirmation rights. But loot
loot lama, motherfucker got that isthis? Is this? Like? Is

(52:00):
this a bitcoin thing? Do Ihave to have played either of those games
on Epic Because if that's so,then uh yes, any point between July
first, twenty fifteen and the dateof the preliminary approval, if you had
a Fortnite or Rocket League account andyou used to play either game on any
device, in any mode and exchangedin game virtual currency for an in game

(52:22):
benefit, or you purchased virtual currencyor any other in game benefit for use
within Fortnite Rocket League, you maybe valid. Maybe you can get fifty
bucks or one thousand Fortnite v bucksor I mean, I think I've played
Fortnite like twice and it wasn't atyou, So I don't think I qualify

(52:44):
for this. Uh definitely not classaction. I can tell you that's.
Yeah, that's for that. Sureshit the truth, it says. In
addition to those credits, players whobelieve they were harmed by their in game
harmed by their in game Fortnite orRocket League purchases and meet certain criteria may
also filed claim up to fifty thousandcash or thirteen thousand, five hundred Fortnite,
v Bucks or Rocket League credits,consumer fraud, breach of contract,

(53:08):
other damages. According to Wait aminute, it's Rocket League two Rocket League
as well. Yes, well,I don't think I've spent any money with
Rocky League since it was acquired.Yeah, I don't think I qualify qualifying.
I don't think that I could qualify, uh for it. Yeah,

(53:31):
so there you go. I don'tknow anybody in the chat, anybody in
the check at three emails? Yeah, is this anyone? Anyone? Anyone?
Uh happened you guys here about this? Uh? It's a v bucks
it's Lute Lama. What's Uh,what's what's about that? What's the deal
with Lute Lama's and uh make bigduties in the anybody big Lama, big

(53:55):
big anyone might the only one herewho bought this, uh, this fortnight
thing? Am I getting? AmI on the receive an end of us
scam? I gave myself security wasthat bed? Should I not have done
that? Should not have done this? To point it? Okay, Alex,
let's get off this bed. Let'sgoing off to something else. Yeah,
let's get into some really important news. The most important news happened this

(54:16):
week and everyone needs to know aboutit. Blaze Ball is back. Oh.
Yes, there was a long siesta, but they are back as of
this week. There was a newseason going right now. In just in
case you were wondering if things werestill going to be weird, there is
now a sentient news ticker on thewebsite. Uh. And today, in

(54:37):
the middle of the season, we'rewe're not even We're gonna be at the
playoffs. I believe tomorrow. Fournew teams just decided to join the league.
Uh, they were allowed to.And so now the Atlantis, Georgia's,
the Core Mechanics, the Ohio Worms, and the returning Baltimore Crabs,

(54:59):
who I I believe at some pointascended to a celestial plane and we're playing
blaze Ball there and are now backI still don't exactly understand how blaze ball
worked, but that's ready for thebest. Don't explain it to me.
I'm not going to. Yeah,yeah, no, we really want to
know. There are places to findout, but yeah, it's very easy
to Yeah. Yeah, well Ifeel like I was able to understand it

(55:23):
relatively quickly. Yeah I have.I have not done my homework, but
I prefer it that way. Ilike the magic and the mystery of just
thinking these This just spawns out ofsome computer buried in the ground somewhere,
and it's just kind of like,well, that's well, that's what it
is. Blaze Ball was created bya server that was left on too long.

(55:45):
It's an old and nuclear reactor.It's an old dark age too long.
This is what happened. Hey,what's what's going on? If I
can pause here for a second,Alex during this news story, so you
can. Yeah, it's time toplay catch old man Vinnie up on current
internet meme. Do what is thething where people are taking still photos and

(56:08):
mapping them onto that like moving head. That's not it's just that's relatively data.
Well, well people are doing Ithink it's an Israeli like ancestry company,
all right, and well, okay, it is a company based in

(56:29):
Israel. Okay, that feels likeone of those like dnastry companies. Yeah,
okay, And they have an appwhere they again I don't know if
this is what the app is supposedto do, but what it is doing,
what people are doing with it isthey're using they're taking photos of like
old deceased relatives and the app islike reanimating that. Oh that's okay.

(56:55):
So it's like, look, you'reyou're your pop pop is uh is winking
at you and they all do thissimilar sort of like algorithmic you know,
glanced to the side like wink sortof things. Fucking it's fucking weird right
now. Shout out to anyone whocan enjoy those things and doesn't just find
them like skin crawlingly uncanny, becausethat's how I feel about. Somebody did

(57:17):
Warren the Push Warren the Warren fromthe Fighting Game, and I was no
good man, it's no good.There is some like real dark Internet,
like somebody did that please sketch ofJeff and that was no good. Yeah,
that's fucked up. I found outabout it, I think from like
a Jake Tapper tweet or something,and he was like and he was like,

(57:37):
look, I reanimated my grandfather yearsand I was just like, look
the fuck am I looking at?And then I got anything like oh all
my deceased grandparents, Like I don'twant to I don't want to do that.
No, no, no, okay, sorry too, sorry, I'm
sure this. Yeah. If youhaven't s good for you. You'll live

(57:58):
longer. Alex, congratulations to Blazeball on your behalf. Thank you.
How's the commissioner doing? Yeah?Are you a chairman? Are you a
chairman at this point? Or no? I just look, I am nowhere
near as in deep with this asa lot of other people are. I
don't want to read the discords.I'm not into any of that. I
just I catch it as it comes, and then I read the recaps where

(58:19):
they pop up, and that isabout it. Let me say, I
was in that discord for about threemonths, and man, I was just
like, I gotta like Homer Simpsonout of here, you know, just
oh, somebody needs somebody should takethat Homer Simpson gift. And then that
look, I don't think well,you could do like a still frame,

(58:40):
but it's still faking motion because what'sthe point. Yeah, okay, speaking
old man, Vinnie reads the Internet. Okay, you're not that old,
but okay, we're not that old. Older than you are, older than
you are, Yeah, you areolder you are. I'm the baby of
the show. So what can Isay? That Tom Cruise stuff was weird?
Huh Tom Cruise, yo yo yostuff. Yeah, yeah that.

(59:05):
I've been pounding my fist on thedesk for at least three months about deep
fakes. No. I did avideo like a year and a half ago.
I did. I did a videolike a year and a half ago
about it, and that has causedthe Tom christing has caused it to like
re explode a little bit. Thinksit's like it's just getting exponentially better with

(59:25):
every passing year. But that likeit, what's the yes, exactly right,
like I meant in your non fungiblevideo. Here here's the thing though,
right like two years ago, everyone'slike, oh, this is gonna
be a fucking problem real fast.Yeah, at least be like new right,

(59:45):
Like at least we were just like, okay, stop it, well
you can't you. But but partof the the paradox when I first like
did that video, was like,Oh, we're never gonna be able to
get out in front of it becauseit's like a whack of mole, you
know, wild Goose Chase, Likeyou're just never gonna get out in front
of it. The tom Cruise onesthat went up, they went up on

(01:00:07):
TikTok, right, just like atleast three of them those ones were that
was me looking I'd be like,no, we're done. Oh, we're
we're We're through the looking glass onthis. It's over. They won,
or it has won, like it'sif it's just way to the NFT conversation,
if it has only if it isonly going to get more complicated than

(01:00:27):
this, We're done. We're It'slike you said earlier, you that like
it felt like it bubbled up outof some dark corner of the Internet.
Guess what, it's all the darkInternet. Now. There is no other
Internet but the dark Internet. It'sall horrible. Yeah yeah, yeah,
yeah, yeah, except for blazeBall, except that's the only place this
is all happening out of. BlazeBall is the only thing I consume.

(01:00:49):
Okay, thing left, Alex,that's what else? Uh, well,
there's a few things here, Jeff, I know this story is going to
make you mad because you don't thinkit's a big deal, and you're probably
right, but we're gonna talk aboutit anyway. Briefly, Uh, there's
some details floating around about what mightbe in the Nintendo Switch Pro, which
Nintendo is still not announced or acknowledgedin any meaningful way, but a bunch

(01:01:12):
of people behind the scenes sure seemto think is going to happen this year.
Uh. They talked a little bitabout guess about the screens that the
new Pro will potentially have, andI guess they are Samsung oh led screens.
Do you know who's who's talking here? Look who's talking Bloomberg not the
original Bloomberg. Nintendo though, noNintendo sa shit and they never do so

(01:01:36):
again, take all this with agrain of salt, but you know,
it's floating out there and and peopleseem to think there's there's some some merit
to it. But okay, ifanything, it's the only difference here is
like they've been sort of adamantly denyingit. Yeah wait, now they're a
little but yeah, they're like thisis like we're not getting I'm sorry,

(01:01:58):
I've not a chance to look atis there have not been pictures off like
a den. No, this ispeople who are sourcing components and then sourcing
where those components are going. Ithink, okay, okay, But so
the idea is that the new onewill have this Samsung OLED screen. It
will still display in seven twenty P. It sounds like in portable mode,

(01:02:21):
but you know, for a portablescreen that's that size, I don't think
that's really a huge deal. Thebigger thing is gonna look. It's gonna
look real nice and apparently it's lessof a battery dream than the ones that
the liquid crystal displays they were using. Now, the other thing is that
when docked, the switch pro willpotentially put out it sounds like four K
resolution or stuff that supports it.Hmmmmm. Yeah that's for me too.

(01:02:44):
I'm not saying it might pay upscale. We'll see, well will it finally
run Breath of the Wild? Alright? That I cann't tell you. I
could not tell you, you knowwhat, man? I just like,
so, uh, does the storytalk anything about like hardware acceleration or improvement?
Really it's they just talk about theoutputting at four K, but there

(01:03:06):
is not really anything in there aboutwhat might be used to potentially make other
games run better that did not before. I mean the lesson that everyone in
the world should have learned all thistime about Nintendo's like all right, like
they're just not going to be youknow, cutting edge in terms of a
fidelity. But like turns out that'sfine, Well it is you know.

(01:03:27):
Also four K isn't really that cuttingedge anymore. Like it's been a real
there's a lot more adoption of it. Yeah, in twenty twenty one.
Switch should it should be a youknow, a pre record. At the
very least, it should do likewhat the PS four Pro did, you
know, Like I feel like thatis probably like the bare minimum of like
what a new version of that systemshould be able to put out. I

(01:03:50):
mean, it is still a handheldcondience. Yes, I'm just saying that,
like if they are trying to staywithin some kind of range of what
the other ones are doing. Yeah, Vinny, the consoles in it's it's
it's that, it's the thing.The console is the thing. That's true.
That's just a fact. Consoles likeyou're saying, you're saying it's a
dock hand held, not a portableconsole. Yeah, or not a portable.

(01:04:12):
Yeah, hybrid consoles please, Yeah. Yeah, I mean, like
I don't think the power you getout of a PS four pro is exactly
well anyway, like I said,it's a it's it's this mobile thing.
It's like this hybrid thing. Yes, yes, yeah, it needs it
needs in that sense. I meanin pandemic land, I don't care that

(01:04:34):
it's mobile. Well, but itstill needs to be designed to use a
battery and yeah yeah right. Andagain I'm saying all this not in like
a well, it has to dothis to compete, but in a if
you are telling people they need tobuy a new version of this hardware,
there has to be an appreciable stepup from what, of course the other

(01:04:54):
one was doing. And of courseI think that you know, if they're
talking about actual four K, thenthat's a pretty big step from where I
was at. Yes, I meanI would. I mean if it's I
mean, listen, if you're upscalingyour you're you know, whatever the game
is putting out the four K,that's native four K and upscale four K.
Yeah, very different. They arevery different things. But I think

(01:05:15):
even an upscale version would be asignificant difference from what that thing currently does
Yeah, yep, yep, yep, yep, yeah yeah. Just just
build the just put like the upscalerin the dock and nobody will ever know.
It's like the switch itself is likedoesn't have room for it. Just
when you plug that baby in,it's just a scan converter in the in
the dock and it just scales itup. Just hit the four K button
and baby, you're living free.That dlss right, that's the that's the

(01:05:42):
weird magic, all right? Whatelse is the weird man the weird magic?
Yeah? I always said there's nothing, nothing officially announced yet, but
you know, people are talking,so we'll see. There's a new Aliens
game coming out, Aliens Fire Team, all right. It is a game
where you are presumable colonial Marines anda whole bunch of Aliens are coming at
you. So if that's the kindof thing you want to do, they'll

(01:06:04):
have that. I guess. Arethere different marines like the non colonial marines?
Yeah? Are the colonial marine?I don't I haven't dug that too
deep into the Aliens lore, butjust you saying it at this point outside
of the game, like the nameColonial Marines or something. Are there marine?
Are the colonial marines, the onesthat are going out to the colonies

(01:06:25):
to check and they're always dying becausethe aliens have always eaten the colony.
And there are other marines. Weassume they're just fighting humans. Here's here's
what I know, and this isare there. This is my limited remembering
of the deep lore of the WaylandUtani verse. The marines that are sent
to LV whatever the fuck uh inaliens are the space marines that go around

(01:06:51):
and solve the problems on colonial planets. And they talk about that a little
b at the beginning, like someof the other missions they've gone on.
Is this another bug hunt? Youknow, that kind of thing, Like
they're very used to go into theseplanets and taking care of whatever alien threat
is going on wherever. That is, until they meet the alien aliens and
then it all go sideways. Now, is there a different set of marines

(01:07:14):
that don't do this, that arejust earth bound and they do the regular
marine things and they still air theTV commercials with the fucking you know,
the chess piece people and whatnot.I don't know, because I actually don't
remember what like the the national politicsare of that universe. Everything is so
wrapped up in the Space Corps inthose movies that I don't really remember,

(01:07:39):
Like what is the state of nationstates in that universe? Like what what
what militaries exist? And I don'treally know. So are the colonials Okay,
I'm gonna dig I know you are? Are the Marines in alien and
aliens? Aliens? They're only analiens? Yeah, and I think to

(01:08:00):
a limited degree alien three are they? Are they Whalen Utani Marines? I
So they talk about the core likeit is a like it is a military
unit, not a corporate license thing. But at the same time they are
sent in there ostensibly by Wayland Utani. They are protecting the interests of Wayland

(01:08:25):
Utahi. Yeah, but how muchof way how much look America at this
point is for corporations in a trenchcoat. I get that, And maybe
this is just the logical extension ofthat, Like Wayland Utani is the US
government. So the intertwining of thosethings is there's no appreciable difference. I
don't actually know. I have notdone the reading on this to know.
Okay, here's what I think.I think if you I think if you

(01:08:46):
just said for the Marines, itwould probably look weird. When you say
Colonial Marines, you know exactly whoyou're talking about, right, We're talking
the Aliens universe. Right. It'slike if they said Space Marine, I
would know they're talking forty K.You say Colonial Marine, I know we're
talking Aliens universe. That's probably allthat needs to be said. What is
this game? And if you sayMarina Syrtis, you're talking about Troy from

(01:09:06):
Star Trek the Next Generation. Yes, yeah, I don't know. This
is a new game. It's froma studio called Cold Iron Studios. I
don't really know them very well,but I think this thing had been rumored
for a little while. But yeah, it's a multiplayer shooter will you shoot
Aliens? And it seems look there'sa very low bar to clear with that
stuff if anyone remembers Alien Colonial Marines. So I as long as it's fun,

(01:09:30):
If it's just like a good Hordemode game, I'm fine with that.
I would love it if they didsomething like an Isolation follow up at
some point, but you know thisis what they're doing now, So there
you go. Also, apparently theother three movies, like the Original Alien,
got a four K remaster. Itsounds like the other three movies are
getting a four K remaster soon,so all that stuff will say ail one
four K soon. So this isa class based co op thing, I

(01:09:54):
believe. So, yes, that'scool, all right, I'll take it.
Ye'll take it. Shoot some aliensas hey, all you gotta get
a couple of things right. Yougotta make the aliens look good, and
you gotta have the right sounds forthat pulse rifle thing that. And you
gotta have the right sound when thelike the tracker. You know tracks right,

(01:10:15):
you have to do both because colonialmorains only got the sound right and
the other part not so much.And that's where it's got to fall apart.
So would you this is a deeperconversation, So I'll please, please,
I'll take all of your your betshere. Alien horror movie, aliens
action horror movie. Right, that'sthat's fair. That's fair to say,

(01:10:36):
right, that's not so what wouldyou rather have here? Like alien isolation
or the kind of action he like? Do you think you think you split
the difference here or you think youjust go pure action? I think for
this you go pure action, pureaction, just tons of aliens pouring in
and like you're escaping not like wanderingaround silently for a while until if you

(01:10:56):
can find a way to capture theactual tension of those movies in a shoot
like that, that's great. ButI don't think you can, because the
whole point of Aliens is that it'sman's hubrists and you know, the best
weapons it has to offer getting throwninto the thresher maw and fucking shoot up
by this thing that they don't knowwhat to do with. And you can't

(01:11:16):
do that in a video game unlessyour whole point is that you can't win
it. Like that's just not like, that's just not isolation was the way
that you go about dealing with thatomnipresent threat, because it's a person being
like, oh, I can't fuckingdo this on my own. I just
have to hide from this ship.One if you get take enough damage,
is a chance that you have achess burster inside of you in your whole

(01:11:40):
team a wife. So I hada little bit of like an among us
thing of like there's a friend team, Uh huh, you gotta take him
out. I'm fine, take himout, and then Paul Riser, you
just see him, but he's behinda piece of glass. Every once in
a while. I was right.I was up for Paul Riser or the
guy from Alien Resurrection who was likethe space tourist that got fucking captured in
an achester got put in his chestbecause it's Look, it's not a good

(01:12:03):
movie at all, Okay, butit is an incredibly visually striking movie and
it has some really fun, goofycharacters in it. It is just not
a good movie, but watchable.Give me a character in this that is
like Paul Riiser's son who is justtrying to get redemption, joined the Colonial
Marine trying to get redemption, youknow, just like everybody gives them a

(01:12:26):
hard time, but looks exactly likePaul Riiser. But buff right, Okay,
let's the next story. The nextWe got a couple more here.
So do you guys remember a fewmonths ago we talked about that game,
The Sinking City, and the problemsFrog Wearers developer was having with their publisher
Nikon. So Nikon published I guessjust the PC versions of that game,

(01:12:49):
but the console at least some ofthe console versions were done entirely by Frog
Wears as far as like publishing rightsgo. So there's a whole conflict between
them and Nikon. The game gotpulled, then republished, and then pulled,
and so at some point that gameshowed up on Steam in the last
couple of weeks with Nikon's name onit, and so frog Wears they're still

(01:13:14):
ongoing litigation with them, and sofrog Wears went to the trouble of filing
a DMCA takedown with Steam for theirown game to get it off Steam during
these proceedings, which haven't still notbeen settled yet, okay, And so
what they are saying is that inorder to get that game up on Steam,

(01:13:39):
Nacon had to go into the codeof the game and rework some stuff
that they were not allowed to doin order to make that publishable. And
so that is what they are alleging, is that they actually went in and
tampered with the game and the codein order to make the Steam version go.
And I think that has something todo with the dl C that they've

(01:13:59):
released, which originally came out onconsoles but not on PC, and that
DLC was in the Steam version thatwent out. I know, this is
really cool. Okay, So they'repuplicated. So they're alleging that they went
into the code which they weren't allowedto do, to manipulate something to publish
it, and without being able todo that, their their reasoning is it

(01:14:21):
wouldn't be they wouldn't be able todo what they're doing unless they did that.
Yes, And Macon, for theirpart, does not sound like they
are denying that, but they aresaying they have the contractual right to do
so, to monkey around them thecode. Yes, And so look,
everything about this just screams you signedthe worst deal possible with this publisher.
And I don't blame them for that, Like it's like people signed bad deals

(01:14:41):
all the time and realize, Fuck, what have I done? But this,
this whole thing sounds like an astronomicalcluster fuck in the grand scheme of
video game publishing rights. And Ijust can't think of too many things I've
ever seen that were quite like this. And the level of animosity between the
two parties where if you if youwant to buy this game and play it,
you can get it from from themdirectly. So frog wears again.

(01:15:05):
I believe they published the console versionsthemselves, at least some of the console
versions, so wherever there it's stillup in a marketplace. Presumably you are
buying the version that it is notrelated to Nikon and it's just the game
that that that frog Wears made.But like there was a time when it
was off some of the marketplaces andthen it came back. There's like it's

(01:15:27):
just it's been this ongoing bizarre sagaand like I still don't fully understand every
detail of it, but it soundslike the litigation is still ongoing and they
are awaiting some decisions, uh,from from that will ultimately, you know,
be the end result of that thing. Yeah, also from a game

(01:15:47):
that is not Like I no,I don't mean to say this to insult
frog Wears, who I made somevery enjoyable Shock Holmes games in the past.
This is not a good game thatwe are arguing over. And I
understand that they have both these companieshave financial investment in this thing, and
they are trying to figure out whatlevel of investment they are legally allowed to
still have. But it's just it'sall over a game that is not really

(01:16:10):
that interesting outside the context of allthis bullshit. Fun times. Yeah,
what else? Anything else? Yeah? We got one more thing here,
epic They buy stuff sometimes here andthere seems like all the time they have
a class action lawsuit. I justgot an email about, well, get

(01:16:32):
ready for the in five years fromnow when the Fall Guys class action lawsuit
comes out. Because the Fortnite devs, the folks at Epic have gone out
and they have bought Media Tonic,specifically those folks, Yes, specifically,
they bought the Tonic Games Group,which is a entity that owns Media Tonic,
who are the developers, but theyalso own a couple of other things,

(01:16:57):
I believe, the Irregular Corporation whopublished things like PC Building Simulator and
Touch Type Tail and a UK studiocalled Fortitude Games, which I don't believe
has made anything yet. So it'syou know, it's it's a it's an
umbrella of a few different depths,but they are now all owned by Epic.
Okay, so the short of thatFall Guys is now owned by Epic.

(01:17:23):
Fall Guys will be in Fortnite undoubtedly. The other thing to keep in
mind, though, is that theyare saying that nothing is really changing as
far as like the ongoing development ofFall Guys goes. They are just going
to keep doing that thing, andI assume at some point make another one
of those. But you know,as of right now, they are still
producing content for that game, andthey plan to continue doing so. I

(01:17:45):
wonder how Fall Guys is going currently. Apparently it's still very popular. Really,
it is still one of the toptwitch streaming games. Yeah, and
it's it seems like it has likea strong player base still. So remember
if you're listening to this that FallGuys. Fall Guys is the answer to
your email about what game? Uhdo you you feel like you just aren't

(01:18:09):
getting even though you tried it acouple of times and everybody else seemed to
like it. That's Oh, Igot Fall Guys. Did you I got
it? Oh? Yeah, Idon't know, because I don't think it's
very good. Oh you just sayingyou don't like the game? So why
is everyone like it? Yeah?Yeah, that's that's fair. I mean
I don't think it's groundbreaking, butI think it's fun. I understand the

(01:18:30):
fun. I understand why people likewatching it. I understand the the spectatorship
qualities of it. Speaking of peoplegames people's stream have you, guys heard
of the the the GTA role playingstuff? You mentioned it to me and
it sounded familiar. I want tosee pixel stuff. I want to say

(01:18:51):
we dabbled around in GTA role playingstuff at Giants. You guys did like
the Heist Crew or ever the fourwe were clearly role playing. We're doing
clearly innovators. But I there's somethingvery intriguing about that. I want to

(01:19:12):
do that. Do you want torole play in? I want to do
with it? Yeah? I wantto put well don't I want to look.
I want to bring the duty bitto GT. But I also I
want to do it. One ofthe streamers I watched like is obsessed with
it and does it all the time. I don't necessarily watch and like watch
him do it, but I knowthat, uh, you know, it's

(01:19:32):
it seems like more It's definitely seemslike more fun to do than to watch,
that's for sure, personally. Finally, the backlard gets his way into
the Crime Crew. This is it? This is not my like ass backwards
inception way to get inserted into.But isn't it like a it's like an
invite only thing, right? Likeyou got to be a special person.

(01:19:53):
Right what if you were on uhwhat if you're on your weird audio only
chat room thing? What is that? Then? Call bad? What?
What's what's the invite chat room theweird The clubhouse is a clubhouse. You
talk to me, I'll watch yourclubhouse on. No, you can't watch
a clubhouse. You can only heara clubhouse, dumbass. Okay, we'll

(01:20:13):
put put the put the little animateduh face on the clubhouse so I can
watch it. Uh, I thinkit? Yeah? We should? I
was you know what clubhouse is?Yeah, Alex, yes, I know
what clubhouse is and I want apart of it. Well, that's bad,
goes without saying I accept did yourinvite to clubhouse? But I have
not done anything else. Backlar sentme an invite. You're very very cool,

(01:20:34):
invited me to clubhouse. I'm superfucking cool kid, Wow fucking When
you saw that, you were probablylike, oh god, how does he
How is he so cool? Well, actually, the thing that occurred to
me was like, I don't knowif I did this for the right reason.
I was like, Oh, whatif that somebody else steals my name
and does a clubhouse, that's probablybad. I should you just gotta like
on my name and then uh andthen never open this again. The icon

(01:20:57):
for it does that? Who iswhat? I don't know? Okay,
let's not talk about clubhouse. No, please stop worrying so much about that.
And just look, I think wecould do a fun thing anywhere.
I think we could do fun thingwith the gtr r P stuff. I
think we'd do fun thing in theclubhouse. I think we could do that.
Okay, uh, well, butif we like somehow got an invite

(01:21:19):
for it, would you guys bedown to do the gt A thing?
Any thing? Yes, to doclubhouse now? No, I'm not months.
Yeah, I'm not worried about clubhouse. Ny, I roll I do
that. I'm role playing all day. Man. Okay, that's not an
answer, but uh sure O.Yes, and I roll play specifically as

(01:21:39):
Val Kilmer and Heat. Yeah,you could do whatever you want. You
could bring back your fucking uh yourAustin RPG character. You can do whatever.
Hard doesn't commit crimes anymore. Hardhas moved on to Hard's gone,
so hards Hards. You know,he's out there helping post apocalyptic wasteland people

(01:22:00):
solve their mark problems and what haveyou. He's not really out of a
right at crimes. So let's dothat. Let's get there. I don't
know how to do it. Maybesomeone listening knows how to do it and
they can send us in. Idon't know. It's like, I don't
know how you invited. I'm Idon't even really understand how it all works
at role play as a bumbling policedetective, like a fucking earnest we could

(01:22:26):
you want to be level, fuckingpratt fall heavy police detective that only accidentally
solves crimes. I want to Iwant to be Sledgehammer. I I like
the idea instead of just being crimepeople. I like the idea of being
like the shittiest cops. Yeah.I don't want to be just like I

(01:22:46):
want to be a completely indeped cop, just like, Oh there's a cat
and a tree, we just driveinto the tree, like that kind of
thing, like just inside. Yeah, let's be the worst possible cops ever.
See that's where the limitations of GTIonline really come in, because you
cannot have a naked gun scenario inGTA online. You can't drive, you

(01:23:08):
shake into a house. That's nota thing they let you do. Yeah,
but you could. But but Istill feel like you could cause the
right amount of destruction and idiocy allahnaked gun as you've described. I think
we could do it. I thinkwe could be those idiots. I want
to I will do one episode andI want it to be my last my

(01:23:30):
day before retirement. Let's it.We do one episode and it's it's it's
my retirement day the ship and thenwe see see it's always actually that day.
That's that's the role playing server Iwant. It's Yeah, it's every
cops last day for retirement, andit's every every gangster's last crime, every

(01:23:51):
every every day puts me into retirement. Every day you boot up that server,
it is that day. Every criminalis like my last score, and
every every person who is trying tocounter act that is it's every store owner
is its last day before they wereretirement. Every cop is last day before
retirement, every criminal is is mylast big score. And that is that.

(01:24:13):
The server is up for twelve hours, comes back down, and once
a year it goes up for yourlast Strapolate on this. I'm gonna build
on this. Good. This isgood, this is good, this is
good. This is a game.This is this is not this server.
This is a whole new game game. One Last Job is the name of
it, and it's the thing youjust kind of described. It is ai

(01:24:36):
procedurally generated One Last heists that youand your team are are assigned to perform.
And on the other side of it, a buddy cop last day before
retirement scenario with different archetypes of buddycops and backstories and like those two things

(01:24:56):
intersecting again, all procedurally generated,so it is an endless string of just
completely hackneyed scenarios. Uh. Andthen the two teams they come together.
One has to stop the job,one has to pull it off. Whoever
pulls it off wins, and whoevergets retirement, whoever gets the retirement or
you get to the you get toyour out and then and then you switch

(01:25:19):
sides. So okay, okay,I'm gonna iterate on that, take the
human out of it, and nowdo that for like salty bet, where
it's just AI running those scenarios tosee if the cop gets to retirement or
if the criminal wins, and it'sjust it's just running it over and over
and a looped it again. Sowe finally have the purest data of if

(01:25:43):
you say it's your last day,it's not gonna go well, and you
can bet on it, and youcan bet on it. You can bet
it if he gets retirement or not. I love it with a bad back.
What's the who can do? Whocan do it? Who can make
this? Someone someone out there makethis. We've said it on the air,
so it's copyright all of us.Yeah, tmm, we got all

(01:26:06):
right? Uh? Is that theend of the news, Arthur. We're
going to talk about the thing?Oh yeah, buckle up. Oh let
me adjust my butt pillow. Herewe go. I have my tailbone.
Oh right, your cox coxus pillow. All right. Last week we didn't

(01:26:28):
have time to dig into the meaton the bone and what happened in between
last week and this and somehow backleour finger on the pulse of the nation
of foresaw a coming storm of NFTnews coming down. Here we go.
Put on your vis See where Alexstands. You are in the splash Every

(01:26:54):
new detail about this makes me angrier. You are in the splash zone.
What's no star from the top,Baclar. We got to tell the people
what these non fungibles are. Again, I am not an expert by any
stress. In the same way I'mnot a stock and stock expert when it

(01:27:14):
was time to explain game stock.Okay, okay, okay, disclaimer again,
I crash course in a weekend andI come out the other side just
a tiny bit more educated. Sothe big thing that has happened seemingly in
the last two weeks is the ideaof something called NFTs, and they are

(01:27:41):
very much related to cryptocurrency. Andthey're very much related to blockchain or the
blockchain, not or or your blockchain? Is it? Or my blockchain or
my parrots blockchain? Okay? Thisis? Is it related to a not
anymore? I don't thanks to ethereum. What's that it is related to ethereum?
Yes, it is because a lotof the Ethereum blockchain is where a

(01:28:02):
lot of NFTs preside. Okay,okay, Now, before we get into
this, I have seen a goodamount of coverage, very very very very
pessimistic coverage, very angry coverage,and I understand that anger. I'm trying

(01:28:26):
to learn as much as I canabout all of this. I don't necessarily
have hard opinions on the fact onthe matter. I don't think a lot
of this stuff is necessarily going away, but never but nevertheless, there are
things about it that I think somepeople are maybe not considering. And we'll

(01:28:50):
just make this an open conversation aboutthe whole you got. Okay, you
gotta tell people what you're talking about. My first exposure with this stuff came
in the form of what the NBAis doing. They're doing a thing,
they've been doing a thing for awhile now called NBA Top Shot. It

(01:29:10):
is essentially a lootbox that they areselling. They've teamed up with this company
called I think Dapper Dapper Labs,and Dapper Labs, to my understanding,
manages this side of the business andhow it relates to blockchain. So what
they're doing is they are selling lootboxes. You sign up for the chance,

(01:29:34):
it's like a lottery to purchase oneof these packs, as you would buy
a pack of baseball cars, justwith the understanding that there's a very finite
amount of these packs if it werea right. So we're like fifty thousand
people all rush in to buy oneof a thousand available packs, right,

(01:29:57):
Okay. Inside the packs are theseunique digital moments is what they call them.
Okay, okay, And these momentsare prioritized through their scarcity and rarity,

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which directly leads to their monetary value. And they're unique and they're they're
unique. Now you know some ofthese moments have five thousand of them,
some of them have fifteen thousand ofthem, some of you know, with
varying degrees of like I said,scarcity and rarity. Uh. The NBA

(01:30:43):
has licensed out all of this stuff, and it has become more or less
an overnight sensation, mostly built onthe fact that there does appear to be
a way to make a quick buckon this stuff. Because and which which,
which certainly draws justifiable criticism. There'sother stuff too. I mean,

(01:31:10):
I don't cook, so it isjust just I'll play the audience here for
a second, and the audience isprobably way ahead, more ahead than I
am. They did have an oldman's second. It is a digital good
that has a unique identifier that saysyou are the sole owner of this digital
good, no matter what the Thatis what the NFT is right. It

(01:31:33):
is a non fungible token. Itis a unique, one of a kind
digital asset. It or at leastrepresents a digital asset. So the sort
of branch off part of this nowis what has happened in like the art
scene. There's there's been a cryptoart explosion in the last year where artists

(01:31:56):
are now selling unique NFTs of theirwork, somebody can own solely the digital
thing. Now. I do believethat we are very much inside entering the
age of the intangible. I thinkthat is where we as an evolute,

(01:32:19):
an evolving society are headed. Whetheror not we want to embrace that or
resist that, I just think thatis a I also think the pandemic has
accelerated this process to the to aspeed at which we are to a neck

(01:32:41):
breaking speed that which we are likeconstantly being whiplashed around in a way that
it is very tough to digest thesebig moments right where we all of a
sudden one day wake up. Bitcoinsare worth fifty thousand dollars. People are
trading digital fucking in vertical videos ofsports highlights. People is selling millions of

(01:33:04):
dollars worth of the original art andthey're just like JPEG's plumbers. So there
is a world. The best onethough, you missed the best announcement yesterday,
which is that the Bands of Leonhave gone in on this to be
the first musical artist too, toget in on this this hot new trend.
So all the Kings of leon headsout there, you must be fucking

(01:33:25):
stoked. So there there's a worldwhere the person who made that original meme
of Drew, yeah, could releaseit with a with a unique identifier that
has been mined from the blockchain andsell it to say, you now own
the original Drew meme print or whatever, the digital one, yeah, and

(01:33:48):
now you are the in a museumor in your personal fucking hard drive collection.
You have the one that I madethat is the everybody else's digital copy
of it is the same exact,but you have a signed unique identifier for
your collection, right, Or youknow, in a world where video game

(01:34:09):
releases are all digital, the collector'sedition. Now there's only ten thousand of
these, and they come with theirunique identifier to let people know. I
mean, you can't transfer those anyway, but I guess your art you can
can. You can't trace for videoyou can trace for these. You can't
transfer oriship of video games. Right, So think about that for a second.
But I guess, like the artbook or something, this thing comes

(01:34:30):
with like the statue. Instead ofthe statue, you got the fucking non
fungible statue, but it does comewith it. I have to stop here
because this does come with a lotof the criticisms that Bitcoin comes with in
terms of mining. Right this thiscomes with all of the environment, and
we definitely have to talk about that, and I think we should. We
definitely have to get there. Idon't think we're done talking about the the

(01:34:56):
fun and fun yeah, or justyou know, I think you know a
lot of it. For me,it took a bit of like a way
of changing the way I thought aboutsubjective value. Right, Like you know,
a comic book that was printed innineteen thirty nine, there's only four

(01:35:17):
of them. To me, Idon't give a shit about that comic book
because it is just paper in acase, and I don't care worth zero
dollars to me, but to someoneit's worth five million dollars. But some
of that is rooted in, youknow, the natural aging process and natural
surety that develops out of shit likethat inevitably being destroyed over time. Sure

(01:35:43):
Uh, Pokemon card which is notdoesn't have that same sort of age,
carry's the same subjective value, rightIt's these are just thing So what I
find interesting, And again it's neithera an endorsement or a sort of like
a standing position on the matter.But I some of the things that I've

(01:36:04):
started to read about which I findinteresting is the fact that a lot of
the stuff could be used to protectcreative artists, right where if you have
a thing that is uniquely identifiable,and you make a thing and that thing
starts to get passed around and used, you could then sort of claim ownership

(01:36:26):
or at least in some of thereal, you know, ambitious ways of
looking at this almost have like anautomatic residual process set up because of this
unique identifiable blockchain that you know,and item like this is placed on.
Right, So, like, Ithink there are interesting ideas here. Okay,

(01:36:47):
I've been reading a lot about There'sthis artist I really like. His
name is ass Party. He doessome interesting stuff. And I was reading
and he's like in his forties andhe wrote a thing on medium about He's
like, look, I'm in myforties. What like NFD scared the shit
out of me. I don't understandwhat's going on, But he started to,
you know, write about it andgave his perspective. I found that

(01:37:09):
to be interesting. I think weare very much just moving at an insanely
fast rate, and we're all likeyou know it, things are being adopted
so universally overnight, right, Likeall of a sudden everyone woke up one
day. We're like, well,we all breathe out of our asses now,
like that's the world, you know, and like that's kind of what

(01:37:30):
is this insane change is happening sofast breathing out of our asses took out
an acre of rainforest every single minute, right, I get it. And
and look, the environmental impact ofmining is a very big part of this
puzzle. I absolutely agree. Ithink that whole. I think that's a

(01:37:54):
complicated thing too, right, LikeI think you know a lot, there's
a lot of interesting things to unpackabout the environmental argument when it comes right,
Like a lot of bitcoin, alot of mining, a lot of
bitcoin. These miners, these peoplewho mind this sort of stuff, they're
always drawn to the most affordable electricity, right, the cheapest electricity. Thankfully,

(01:38:20):
renewable energy is quickly becoming the cheapestform of energy. But if everyone
starts jumping on top of that,the actual environmental gains we will get out
of renewable energy will at some pointbe canceled out, won't they. I
don't know, I don't know.I think it's interesting that the path of

(01:38:41):
least resistance, though, is notlike burning more coal, right, Like,
the path of least resistance is potentiallyrenewable energy because it is becoming cheaper
than fossil fuel energy. Right.I also, you know, someone was
asking me what I thought about this, and again, like it's complicated.
You can't have a black and whiteanyone who's who is like on a soapbox

(01:39:04):
right now, Like saying one wayor the other to me is insane,
okay, because this is so goddamnbrand new, and so you know,
I just I just don't think thisis the time where we're just like,
I have a final fucking opinion onthis. I didn't know about it two
weeks ago, but nevertheless, I'vecome to the conclusion that this is the

(01:39:26):
end of civilization. Well, Ijust don't. Maybe I'm just not.
I just I can't be as fatalistas that, and I know you're not,
like, well, no, I'mnot. But I also like I've
looked into this, and I've readabout this since you first brought it up,
and I've seen the explosion that you'retalking about, and I you know,
it's not that it's not the rapidnesswith which this is expanding that bothers
me. It is the very conceptof it, like the like the value

(01:39:49):
of it to me is nil,like I don't care, like and part
of this is a personal perspective,where like the idea of owning myself a
sucking video of Lebron James or youknow, a part of a webcomic,
or god help me, a fuckingkings of Leon anything is non existent.

(01:40:10):
I don't care. There's no valueto that. And just because I can
be the only person who owns it, none of that matters to me in
the slightest. So the very conceptof this to me is bankrupt, like
there's just no value in it whatsoever. And then when you pile on the
actual impact of what it's doing,it's to me it seems aggressively like valueless,

(01:40:32):
like to the point where it isactually removing something in place of what
it is, like it is takingaway something, which is to say,
resources energy for a completely valueless construct. And the rapidness with which people are
jumping on this and companies are sayinglike, oh, this is a way
for us to make a quick buck, or in some cases artists are using

(01:40:53):
this to make a quick buck justsays to me that there is a desperation
built into all of this, wehave to fight like there's no reason to
do this unless you are just tryingto find a way to get rich quick
or make some money quick. Andthat is absolutely the worst part of the
whole thing, because that is atangible thing that we see happening immediately or

(01:41:16):
like people and again, like it'snot hard up for cash. They are
a billion dollar organization. They don'tneed to do something like this, but
they are choosing to because they seeit as a valuable possibly valuable revenue stream.
The worst part is, without adoubt, I mean, it's the
same thing with like the scarcity ofthe consoles right where like people are just

(01:41:39):
freaking out to buy one of thesethings just to flip it, and that
that is just that is just youknow, it's just pure evil. But
I think that's what it comes downto. I think there is another valid
layer that this might be new,but it is built on top of a
technology that we already know about andwe know about some of the consequences of
mining what those do. So Ithink what Alex and I kind of I

(01:42:00):
agree with him, is the thingyou're building on top of this this kind
of already damaging, Uh, institutionis basically another stock market, you know,
basically another way for money to tradehands between people who you know,
want to want to invest invest inthis stuff. And if it were divorced

(01:42:21):
from the the part where the energyrequired to make the system work, we're
not there, then it might beeven a little goofy year and be like,
ah, you don't want to don'tappears the yeah, I mean the
energy part of it. So weare like that is like at this point,

(01:42:42):
like it's it's to me, itfeels like we know where we're at
climate wise, we know where we'reat as far as like and the need
for renewable energy and the amount ofresources that we as a species eat up
on a daily basis. And thisis taking that knowledge, printing it to
paper, and then throwing it ona giant fucking tire fire and so that

(01:43:04):
you without you own that tire fire, you know. Look like again,
I like, who could be onboard with that? Right? Like?
Who could be stoked about that?Consequently, my point of view is I
can't you know, Like, here'sthe thing too, Like, unfortunately,

(01:43:27):
this is not a thing that someonecould just turn off overnight, right,
Like, It's not like you know, we're gonna wake up tomorrow and everyone
mining is gonna like have an environmentalconscious and be like right, so like
that's what I think about, right, like where things are in motion and
unfortunately you have you have gotten toa place where you've evolved in this way

(01:43:48):
that like, oh man, weare exponentially you know, putting our foot
on the gas. What do wedo? We've there are people, there
are people who are thinking about this, right, Like there are you know,
yeah, like there, I mean, you know, the efficiency of
mining is the biggest you know,uh culprit in the in the entire rights.

(01:44:14):
But like that that's like being madat like a thunderstorm, right,
not because we don't create, wedon't make them. Well I understand,
but like but again, like buthow do we reverse engineer? How do
we just stop everyone's from we endit? We destroy it? Right now,
I don't know how to do that. Well, let's figure it out.
That seems like an actually valuable thingto look into. But the wild

(01:44:35):
thing about it is like the wholeconcept of the whole thing is to be
decentralized to where it's like it hasno almost no ownership. I think I
think there's either did s and lookhow that was. It's uh no,
I look, I think it's moreof like a high conversation. I think
it's a paradix. If you wantto have this, I'll do it.

(01:44:57):
But but I think it But Ithink it's par it's you know, it's
it's paradoxical in a lot of ways. You know, but there is a
collision course with reality that it canbe very devastating. I've seen like if
you're in a free market energy market, like you saw what happened in Texas,
where rates of supplying demand blow up, the rates of supplying demand,
your energy rate goes up through supplyingdemand, like what happens if there's high

(01:45:21):
you live in a high demand.Oh, I live in a fucking bitcoin
cooker neighborhood where you know, demandgoes right. Uh. And now I'm
just trying to you know, stopstuff like that, like the technology and
the I look, I am notI don't have the answers. I'm just
reporting what is yeah, and I'mreport that this is into Sarah Connor.

(01:45:41):
I'm going to fucking blow up theEthereum factory and they're going to send me
to a fucking hospital and that's fine. You're gonna be Alice is gonna be
sitting huddled with you know. Theterminator hand had to stop it. Look,
and I'm not mad at you,and I don't mind you get here,
because I just need to hear thesearguments out loud to understand them.

(01:46:03):
Yeah, but I'm telling you rightnow, I will there is no version
of this. I will not standin opposition too. It does not exist.
I mean, look, I hearwhat you're saying. I there is
a version of this where I wouldbe okay with it. If the environmental
impact was to be a totally differentconcept, then maybe maybe not. The

(01:46:26):
future is not going to be afuture where we're using less energy. I
don't understand how that we should probablybe using those energy like energies for things
that actually benefit people and not fora fucking clip of a slam dunk.
Look, dude, you're preaching tothe choir. I mean, listen,
I think you're I think there's gonnabe a lot of information coming out.

(01:46:48):
There's gonna be a lot of misinformation. There's would be a lot of real
information. I think a lot ofthis stuff, Jeff, I see your
point of Like, Hey, headsup, this is coming heads up,
you know, like, but look, but I think if you look at
human I think my point and Alexyou probably share this as well. If
you look at human nature, theywill abuse this until it's broken, and

(01:47:10):
then they're already the rest of us, and the rest of us will be
there to pick up the pieces.So it's it's easy to get cynical about
it, of course, because itsounds like the dumbest fucking thing in the
world and be like, well,by the time we figure out what happened,
it'll be too late, you know, or or like you know,
you know, I don't know.I know, it's like what what is
the answer going to be? Uh? It's really wild. I mean,

(01:47:33):
you know, the the disruptive likeimpact on the world economy is only only
now is it's our people starting tobe like, fucking what the fuck is
this brand new like power intensive country. Oh, that's not even a place.
It's just like it's blockchain we're talkingabout it that eats more energy than

(01:47:56):
several major countries. We have atotal it's like thirty thirt thing. It's
thirtieth in the chain of it's areal so here power here's what we need
to do ill I solve it?Ready, Well, if you could solve
it, I did, that wouldbe great. Involves it you, thank
you, thank you very much.We get that. We get this U,
this whole SpaceX thing, and wewe launch a supercomputer close to the

(01:48:21):
Sun that is just running off asolar power beaming the blockchain back to Earth.
So it's just you get this thisU. They launched a big old
solar powered supercomputer and it just runsover there and it uses soaks up some
energy and then uh then in Alex'sNightmare World one hundred years from now,

(01:48:42):
it comes in invades Earth because itbecame sentient and comes got another one for
you. Here's there's another option.We load all the people who are participating
in this bullshit onto one a SpaceXrocket and we launch it into the Sun.
We give that they want a freetrip yeuh huh and uh and it's
a go again. Enjoy. Youguys are the superstars. Go ahead,

(01:49:04):
we found the blockchain. You getto go visit it. We're gonna put
you. I think, look,you know, I you know, I
think my fascination with this should notbe mistaken for endorsement. I don't think
it is to find all angles ofthis thing because you want to understand it.
I get that exactly just the wayI want to understand. Uh,

(01:49:27):
you know what happened with the stockmarket last month. So I think it
is endlessly uh you know. Forme, it's like I when I start
to understand a thing, I likeget very close and I'm able to like
look over the edge into the blackhole, and then I'm like, oh,
fun, that's a god damn blackhole. I don't want to you
know, and you like back awayfrom it, you know. I I

(01:49:50):
the the you know, some ofthe artists that I respect that I know
personally I talked to about it,and I do think there is a a
general interest in some of these peoplewho, if only for the idea obviously
the negative environmental angle aside, uh, you know, are interested for what

(01:50:14):
it could mean for what they dofor a living. Right, So,
like I think, look, whetheror not we like this. Unfortunately,
it seems like this will find itsway into video games sooner than later,
like blockchains developed stuff, Like Iget those fucking press releases every now and
again, Like the blockchains here,people use it. I mean, this

(01:50:34):
stuff is like this sounds similar andI don't know the technology, but it
sounds similar to like the you know, people selling Doda stuff on the black
market, right or selling accounts whereit's like, this is a unique item.
It's now has value because it isunique and you can't just replicate it,
And do you want to buy thisthing for money? Right? So
you know, yeah, I think, what if we built an entire wind

(01:50:58):
farm for Doda hats. Yeah,I'm down, have it funded by the
people, got launched into space.But but yeah, you know, I
think, like there's no chance thisis not coming to video games, no
chance. In fact, video gamesperfected it or perfected a version of it

(01:51:20):
by you know, the whole Loopoxfiasco and assigning you know, all this
subjective value to intangible things. Sojust look out for your coming to a
Google image search by you uh,fifty cents per view on every Google image
you want to look through, everytime you search, every time you ever

(01:51:42):
you want to you want to clickon, make this image bigger fifty cents.
It's you know what you think ina world like that makes sense,
where you get paid for your thingyou did, in a world that's a
fucking nightmare, right where the internetnow comes a pay per use where there
is no more free sharing of information, where everything everybody's getting theirs. Because
I don't think it's that. Ithink it's commercial use. But yes,

(01:52:04):
but I don't you know, whydon't you Why don't you get if you
took a picture of a McDonald's ornot McDonald's, that's where you took a
picture of a tree and I wantto use it, and you put it
up and it's on the Internet,and that's what Getty images is. And
then I and and it's on aGoogle image shars and I want to use
it. This is a podcast art. Maybe you shook a fifty cents.

(01:52:24):
I mean, I don't know,that's what getty that's what getty is,
right, Well, that's if yourimage was you uploaded to getty and you
license, right, But if youjust if it just came up in a
fucking you know, crawl through theinternet like I don't know, but also
sucks. It's it's dude, it'sit is complicated again, like it's very

(01:52:45):
Uh, it's scary. It's scary, to be totally honest. It is
this intimidating sort of like uh,you know, looking into the void kind
of thing and I and I dothink like a lot of this. Again,
I know, I'm very much abroken record when it comes to like
how I feel about what COVID hasdone to humanity in terms of like accelerating

(01:53:08):
a lot of uh, you know, antiquated things in our in our world.
But this just being like the weirdcyberpunk uh you know, byproduct of
it. To me, it's justtough to really put it into perspective and
have a true appreciation for what itwill end up meaning and doing to our

(01:53:33):
everyday life. I know that's veryheavy, but that is truly like the
paradox that's that swirls around in myin my head and you know, like
thinking about my child's understanding of likepersonal assets and value of things and what
it all means. It's it is. It is a mind fuck to say

(01:53:54):
the least, for sure. Yeah, well, uh, lights go out.
Yeah, until the lights go outand then yeah, it's so anyway,
that is a very uh not quick, but very dirty explanation of what's

(01:54:16):
been going on since the last timewe spoke. And uh, this is
this is, this is why wedid not have time for this. Yeah,
I know, I know, it'sit's very long. By the time
we get to this next week,people will be selling their social security numbers
through the blockchain. Uh, there'salready somebody's already selling my social security number.

(01:54:36):
I'm sure. Yeah, I mean, plus, they're all your social
security numbers are out there. Rememberwhen those credit companies leaked off. Yeah,
I wish it were on the blockchain. Then maybe at least it would
cost somebody a little bit. It'san interesting point. That's an interesting point.
It's not an interesting point. Allright, We're gonna none of my
points have been interesting. Free information, baby, stop share it. Let's

(01:55:00):
go. Let's uh, let's getout there and man, copyright fucking sucks.
And it's weird and it's tough.It's it's it's weird and it's tough
man weirdness. I yeah, Iwant artists to get paid. I think
that's good. I don't but Idon't know if if it does it,

(01:55:23):
you know, I don't know iflike you know, does it, but
I would cost Yeah, I don'tknow, I don't know. All right,
we're gonna take another quick break whileyou if you're at home, we'll
have at least two or three minutesto ponder these fun questions. Uh,
so stay tuned. We'll be allright back. And we're back. Let's

(01:55:57):
do a little palette cleanser here.What's the emails? What's that? Oh?
I thought it was clean that palwith some duty. No, I'm
not doing duty anymore. We're gonnawe just we got through the duty.
Now we're up to the emails.If if you've got an email, you
can take them into beastcasts at giantbomb dot com. That's beast cast at
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(01:56:26):
Alex. Why don't you take it? Sure thing? Uh? Where is
that one? It is the firstfirst one? There we go. What
are your current coffee habits? Havethey changed since quarantine? My carfee?
My coffee habits? Myc carfee.I was making a pot of a brew,

(01:56:49):
a French press brew every morning.That got me about two mugs of
coffee. But then as now Igo take a walk and get a coffee.
Now that things have I need toget extra Yeah, I do mask
up I need. I have mappedout about half of my walk on the

(01:57:10):
commute both ways, and I triedto hit a coffee store that is that
far away, and I've been tryingto get that, so it actually has
now returned a little bit more towhat my morning coffee habit was. What
do you pay for a couple ofcoffee two dollars something. It's like a
big log. It's a large coffee. It's a large it's a large coffee

(01:57:33):
drink. You don't drink coffee rightnow. So my habit's pre quarantine,
where I would usually either go toa Duncan Donuts or another local shop and
grab a big old thing of coffeeiced in the summer on my way to
work, and that would be mycoffee for the day. But I haven't
been to work since March. Soon weekends we make our own coffee here

(01:57:57):
and that has just extended to theweek now. We just we have a
friend Press Sam and I, youknow, we brew a pot. Mostly
she brews it because she gets upbefore I do. And you know,
that's my cup. I have abig old mug of coffee once a day,
and that is it. I don'tI don't drink more than that any
more than that would kill me,you know, uh, you know,

(01:58:17):
like I I'll tell you back inthe pre COVID times I was drinking up
to two or three a day,maybe rarely three, more like two.
I could I could hit that too, Yeah, as well, I get
it. Two I would, youknow, I would also they would not
be as large like. But I'lltell you this, I've had it.

(01:58:38):
I've cut down so much on coffeesince uh, you know, being home
so much that I, uh,it's weird. I just haven't required the
same amount of pep uh. Infact, I was like staying true to
my coffee regiment when we were whenthe quarantine started, and I was like,

(01:58:59):
you know, two o'clock, Icould roll by and I'm like jittering
at my desk and I'm just like, what the hell is going on?
And you know, that's when Istopped drinking two coffees, and I you
know, got my uh got mymy you know, control back. Only
now am I starting to sometimes slidein a bit of like a dirty coffee,
you know what that is, areal nice dirty coffee, A little

(01:59:21):
bit of like a like not ashot of espresso, but like Stacey and
I will split a shot of espressoand pour this half shot into a cup
of coffee that hey, I gotlike we got gifted one of these,
like, uh, you know,little espresso maker things. What are you?

(01:59:41):
Uh? We got going on inyour there? You got you got
some noise there? Oh you hearit? Ship's breaking through your your gate
every time. All right, I'llclose the window. I got some construction
mine in machine going on back there. Yeah, James, Now how much
how much dunk do you have?Is it a dollar sign? Don't I

(02:00:05):
imagine? Imagine? I imagine whenit's When it's mining, it is just
like drying in like old Internet usedto when you're on dial up, of
like a jpeg a line by lineas you as you might be like,
oh yeah, here comes anyway,sweet sweet, don't all right? We

(02:00:26):
got another email here, So yes, things have changed, but things have
stayed the same. Jeff, whydon't you take this one from Brian.
I'm not sure we can help here, but I do want to commiserate.
And I've had similar issues here aboutHDMI stuff. Uh hey, duds,
excuse me? Oh hold this dutyreal random one here, guys, But
I'm running out of people to askand place to check, and I figure

(02:00:50):
you guys have enough experienced troubleshooting techyou could understand the issue. I really
appreciate any and all help you canprovide. I got my PS five on
Tuesday, and I've been having anissue where I booted from being unplugged and
go to the HDMI port it's pluggedinto the whole screen is either it was

(02:01:11):
fucking textupport. The whole screen iseither a completely washed purple or green.
The weird thing is when I changedto a different HDMI basically swap channels and
then go back, it works perfectly. Does anyone have this issue? I've
tried three different ports, two differentcables, here's my number. My feeling
is that it's something to do withthe transfer given, but the transfer given

(02:01:33):
it works after swapping to another channelon back, but I can't, okay,
So basically what's happening is it soundslike it's like a weird handshake issue.
This, I mean, this sucksHDMI, Like HDMI is great and
terrible. Uh you know, it'sit's like, that's really what it is,

(02:01:54):
like any weird funkiness, especially ifit winds up working, it's just
a weird initial handshake and for whateverreason sometimes you know, and there's so
much fragmentation in that standard, right, you've got all these different cables,
all these different TVs with different youknow, interfaces. Yeah, it just
sucks. Sucks, It just sucks. And sometimes you're just gonna get like,

(02:02:14):
you know, this this unfortunate combinationof things. Look, this sucks
that you have to go back andforth. It also, you know,
ultimately is not that big of adeal that you're able to at least get
it to work. But it doessuck. My understanding is that it's probably
a handshake. Is my picture woulddrop out sometimes just go black, Yeah,
and I have to go to thechannel and come back. Sometimes it
just be snow on the screen.Yeah, and I'd have to go to

(02:02:38):
the So, like, you're notalone here, Brian, if anybody,
if anybody has any Brian, ifyou're in our comments on the Giant bomb
dot com and you want to talkabout this more, maybe some other people
know more about this that I listento the show. But like, it
is not you're not alone here.It stinks and I feel bad. I'm
sorry, Like it is a crappything. The you know, and you

(02:03:01):
did all the right things, Brian, Like you try you try a different
cable, different input, the wholething that's what you should should have done.
I mean, what else can youdo besides get a new TV rights
five It's the only I mean,a big receiver and then just just get
the whole chain done. And wedid I read correctly? Where did he
try it on a different TV?I think different ports. Honestly, I

(02:03:26):
would also try it on a differentTV. Sp what if it works on
a different TV. He's just gonnabe like, I'm all right, well,
I guess this TV saying that's howyou narrow down, that's how you
troubleshoot. But I know the worstthing is if it works, then you're
like, I wish I didn't havethis information. I wish I wish I
did. Yeah, it's it's stinky, stinky poo poo. All right,

(02:03:47):
I'm gonna read this one from Jacob. I thought it was kind of fun.
Here, let's do it. Itsays I wanted to ask the podcast
what their favorite phrases were for describingeveryday things. I always love to hear
regional colloquialisms and wanted to hear whatyou guys say are used to say for
certain things. Uh, okay,ready, I'll start. I'll read these

(02:04:11):
offs. So baccalar. Someone's someone'sreally drunk or getting drunk. What do
you what would you say? Iwould say, just getting getting drunk.
I don't have a fancy phrase forthat, Alex, I've got a lunch
like No, I don't know theof a regional, but you know,
getting tanked, getting wasted. Iwould say blitz. Wasted was the one.
I thought, Oh, okay,blitz trashed, blitz blitz. That

(02:04:34):
would use more for like stones.I think, like he's blitz, but
I'm high. Maybe the refrigerator,but that is about it. Uh.
Wasted was the one. I thought, like, oh, man, that
that dude is wasted, don't gonear him. Uh, Alex throwing up,
uh god, I don't know,puking, barfing, hurling, Yeah,

(02:05:00):
the vomb. Really, I justbe like, oh, unfortunately vomb
Oh wow, I've never heard that. I've heard ya. Yeah, he's
gonna be act. I think that'swhat I would probably laugh, laughing at
the carpet. I've never heard thatone, praying to the porcelain godt there
you go. Yeah, I'd say, yak, oh man, somebody y

(02:05:24):
act over here. I would onlyhave I only have by way of Wayne's
world, that is not a region. I'd say puked and and uh barfing
are probably the ones that were mostused in my household. If you're gonna
if you're gonna speed taking a hugedump, I would think that's dump.

(02:05:46):
I think that's the one I got. I got so somebody in there taking
a huge dump. I have totake a huge I could. I would
use that pretty much universally. Igotta I gotta go take a huge dump.
I think I've always been like aback in the day, was more
like dropping a deuce. Okay,if you're being cute, sure, I
guess, but it's number two.It's not is it not a number two?

(02:06:08):
Yeah? But if you're if I'mgetting down the business and I gotta
take a huge dump, I'm probablyjust going right right for the quick on
this one. Hey, out ofthe way, I gotta take a huge
gotta gotta drop a dumper. Uhsomething. You know what I say more
often than not is hey, yougotta make a duty. Okay. Uh.

(02:06:29):
And that's where's in the next email. Thank you very much. Set
it up for me. If I'mnot going to use the bit here,
what am I gonna use it?Softball? Jacob did add I thought this
was funny. Jacob from New Orleanssaid he's heard friends or in New Orleans
sloppier than a soup sandwich from fromNew Orleans for being drunk, like any

(02:06:51):
part of that. Oh, oh, don't say that. Right after the
pooping thing, Alex, this netreading the next one from Ryan. You
didn't do the last one? DidI accidentally closed the dock? Okay,
yes, yes, but address itto Alex from Ryan. Hey, Alex,
I think I've come to the realizationthat I hate Metallica. This is

(02:07:14):
I was listening to some of theirmusic to get ready for Alex's drum stream,
and I just couldn't find much ofanything I liked. Singing is horrible.
It all sounds like butt rock froma heavier butt all They also they
basically made metal full of bros.Like what happened to the country ten years
Oh, what happened to country tenyears back? I didn't know that happened
to country? Well, and ifif none of that convinces you, they're

(02:07:35):
basically the reason Avenge Sevenfold exists.I mean, okay, and he actually
likes Avenge sevenfold. Look, evenSevenfold made one one album that I thought
was very good. I will admitI think Avenge Sevenfold made one very good
record and then whatever, then theyall turned into bats or whatever. But

(02:07:59):
I'm sorry, alex Is. Look, I get it. I do not
ascribe the theory that Metallica is thesole responsible party for bringing bros into metal.
If we are being completely honest here, bros were always in metal,
they were always a part of Nowdo you want to say that they may

(02:08:20):
How can we know this? Howcan we know that? Because I think
if you just go look back atFull of Dudes, it's dudes and there's
dudes. That's just how that works. Yeah. Now do you want to
say they main streamed it in away that other bands did not? I
can. I can get to that. I can agree with that. And

(02:08:41):
do I want to listen to anyMetallica album at this point after the Black
Album? Not really? But Ido not think you can remove the influence
and the power that those eighties andthat one early nineties album had on the
entirety of metal. You know,Kill Them All, Ride, The Lightning,
Master of Puppets, and Justice forAll like these are classics for a

(02:09:05):
reason. How do you uh?I was having this conversation with someone a
couple of weeks ago about the Napsterstuff, and you know, I was
saying, like, oh, youknow, they there's a lot of some
of their legacy is grounded in likethem being the dickheads, right, so,

(02:09:28):
and he was like very defensive.He was like, you know,
and I was just like, Imean, you can't detach that story from
that band. Yeah, I meanthat was a big part. What was
that like two thousand, two thousandand one, Uh yeah, and then
in early two thousands, what howhow do you how do you how do
you think history should write that chapter? It should write the chapter to say

(02:09:50):
that one of the biggest metal bandsof all time got very old and got
very in their feelings about their money, and they decided to effectively become the
spearhead for ruint, further ruining copyrightlaw beyond where it already existed. Uh
so that no one would pirate theworst album they ever made and it is

(02:10:16):
an irredeemable piece of shit. Sowere they more met at their Saint Anger
came a little bit after that.This would have been around the time the
SNM live album with the Orchestra.The Orchestra album is fine, but the
point being that that album, thatalbum I bet was a big downloading on

(02:10:37):
Napster for being completely honest here,Yeah yeah, I mean, look,
no, that that legacy I thinkis inextricably wrapped up in in what that
band is and who that band is. And you know, you can throw
a whole lot of that blame,probably at Lars more than anything else,
but he became like the But thething is, you don't get Metallica to
sign off with just Lars like thathad it Lars was maybe the mouthpiece,

(02:11:01):
and Lars is a dumb ass ina lot of different ways, but nonetheless
it's the band's legacy and they are, unfortunately I'm never going to be able
to extract themselves from that. Andjust when you thought like maybe enough time
had passed where there were enough peoplewho had never heard of Napster, uh,
than that whole fucking twitch blizz conthing happens and everyone then like how

(02:11:22):
to kick open the history books andbe like it's like I said, irony
is a patient predator. You don'tknow when it's gonna come for you,
but when it does, boy howdy, it comes for you. And in
this case, what was the blizzcon. You didn't know about this?
They no, It's so Metallica dida quick concert thing for the Digital blizz
Con and they secure it the rightsfor their own stream, but on Twitch

(02:11:45):
they did not, So they playedover Metallica. I have a question about
that. I have a question aboutthat. So was it more of just
the licensing for the streaming and itwasn't like because there are a lot of
people who are like, oh,they did it so they wouldn't get triggered
by a DCMA thing, but likeor DMCA, I always mixed up the
M and the seg uh. Butlike there's but like the filters wouldn't have

(02:12:09):
sniffed out a live thing. Imean, and it's like a lot a
live thing or not, you know, like the thing is it's a metallic
concert. And if there is anyonewho catches wind that they were streaming a
metallic I was saying, right,right, But I was talking about like
an algorithm was sniffing out there alot a live recorded thing. I mean,

(02:12:31):
I don't know how live is itreally, I don't know what I'm
saying. I mean, they wereplaying it was they decided the risk was
not worth it. Twitch decide ofthat, right, It was just twitch
all right, it was just itwas just twitch. Uh yeah. We
got this question a lot here.I don't know what. I don't know
what happened, but we got like, uh ten of these that came in.

(02:12:54):
So I'm gonna read this one fromJB. How are you all doing?
Hope doing well? Late last year, I became a first time homeowner
and learning things. I had noidea where the thing to worry about.
What is the weirdest advice or tipyou would give to a first time homeowner,
A tip or a bit of advicethat if you heard yourself for the

(02:13:16):
first time when you bought your firsthome, would make you think that the
person was not all there. Hopeyou have a great day, JB.
So this was funny. We didget an unprecedented amounts of I'm a first
time homeowner emails. I just talkedto you one Dan record last weekend about

(02:13:37):
homeownership. I would say everything here, By the way, that conversation should
have been a podcast, like I'msorry your I heard about I heard about
your conversation with Dan. Wait fromDan? Yeah, actually from two people.
I won't name the second person.Oh, it's fun it's funny.

(02:13:58):
It's all fun all right, Okay, that you shouldn't that conversation should have
been had like on on in somepublic but but like think about anyway.
Maybe I'm just just it's very like, you know, hey laugh at then.
But we were talking about we're talkinghome stuff, just you know,

(02:14:18):
yeah, talking stuff. It's likeshould I make fires in the basics?
No of it? No, hewas, But I would say everything's gonna
break. Is the is the homeownershipadvice? I would uh, start putting
start as soon as you buy thehouse, starts saving more money. Everything
is a ticking, ticking away.Entropy will destroy everything. Hey, you
got everything is that you got signedoff on? Is now day one is

(02:14:41):
ticking away? Your furnace, yourboiler, you're this sand is running out
all these things. Everything start aslush fund for repairing everything. I don't
know about those whole whole those likeappliance insurance things. I'm not gonna say.
Go so yeah, I was gonnasay, like, if you can
fin eagle it out of the sellers, like sometimes they'll just do that as

(02:15:03):
a make good for something. Again, only I've bought two houses in my
life, and I've gotten one eachtime, and they've they've they've they've netted
me. Yeah, you know,hey, dividends, they've netted out.
So they've made good on the claims. If you did have to like replace
a fridge or something, yeah,so like if you I they these were
not specific appliance and warranties. Thesewere general home repair warranties. But like

(02:15:28):
they were very thorough and inclusive,and I made sure of that, especially
the second time I bought a place. Okay, because here's the thing to
your point, Okay, it allbreaks. Your house wants to break between
breaking. Is you like repair person? You might have actually said this to
me because I know I was indeep consultation with you upon the purchase of

(02:15:52):
my home. Your house is notsupposed to be there. It's fucking true.
It's true. It's fucking true.Given house, given a minimum amount
of years, it will be gone. Your house. No one if no
one kept up kept your if theupkeeping your house was not done for thirty

(02:16:13):
years, your house is just gonnago away. Its just swallow it up
the same way, the same waya fucking tree figures out how to grow
inside of a chainling fence, andthe same way, like it fucking lifts
the sidewalk because it's so goddamn powerful. Your fucking house is not supposed to
be there, okay, and it'sgonna get fucked with if you don't pre

(02:16:33):
if you don't stop the fucking ifyou don't invest in the pre fucking thing.
So uh, that is that andthat, But that advice that that
you know thought should lead to youunderstanding of how much you need to proactively
do and reactively do uh to makesure your house is like, you know,

(02:16:56):
somewhat uh in work in you know, in a good condition at all
times, in the sense that itis eventually going to want to revert to
dirty, which is this is gonnawant to implode and combust. The other
thing I would say quickly is knowthe extent of the damage you could do

(02:17:18):
if you're trying to repair something.No, no, no, what the
non recoverable point is where you're saying, I can I think I can take
a look at this. Know whatthe point at which you should call someone
to come in or hey, thisisn't a big deal. Like if you
can figure out that there's a lotof good information online, but before you

(02:17:39):
do it, just know like,what's the worst that could do? You
know, whether that's harm to yourself, somebody in the house, or your
house, because some things are verydangerous. But just know that extent.
Always turn the power off before youlook on work on electricity or electrical stuff.
You know where the main power shutoffis. No, where the main
water shut off is. These aretwo very easily identifiable things most people don't.

(02:18:05):
I mean, all you do issee these videos of people, like
in Texas their pipes for all thefucking wars. Keep don't film it.
Let's turn off the goddamn waters.Sometimes it's stuff. If you're renting,
yeah you can, let me backthat up. Let me back that up.
If it's like an apartment building,you might just be fucked. But
if it's your house, it's yourresponsibility to understand where your own personal water

(02:18:26):
shut off. It's don't they don'ttell you, like you you will move
into that house. They don't.You'll move into that house and like you
will get stuff installed, and theywill not say, hey, you know
every year you're supposed to do maintenanceon this thing. Nope, Nope,
that you're just stuff. Yeah youknow, And again, like I know
this guy already went through the processof the inspection. But like people who

(02:18:48):
are listening, who are in theprocess of buying house, like that inspection.
Use that inspection time to ask literallyas many questions as you possibly can
ask, because that doesn't come youknow, like, yeah, that's just
gonna come along with the price ofthe inspection, right because like you have
this person, you have this professionalin in the home who's giving you this

(02:19:09):
completely hopefully you know, objective reportabout the house and find out where the
water shut off is. Find outbecause these are the crucial elements to avoid
catastrophic damage. True, it's htastrophicdamage. Yeah, or even if you're
working on something that you might wantto say, there's gonna be times you're
gonna want to shut the mains offfor either your gas or electricity or your

(02:19:31):
water. So yeah, that stuffI just read it. I just read
a good one in the chat.My weird advice of homeownership. Sniff more
than you normally would sniff more often, which is which is fully something I've
done that going to help me getget get things. That's sniff electronically get
good lights right lights on. Someoneshowed me, someone showed me this cool

(02:19:54):
little get up. It is aleak detector that can automatically turn off your
water, your main water sp withlike a robot arm. We got an
email to the beast cast about that. It detects continuous that's right, yeah,
we got Yeah, there's all sortsof stuff. It's water damage is
very scary, as a lot ofthe country knows water does whatever the fuck

(02:20:16):
it wants. The other thing,I'll say, on a fun note,
yell in that house, hang stuffon the walls. Put a nail on
the wall, have a good rightaway, go go do and do it
right away, it right away,feel good, like like this is crazy,
but like something into that wall.Go go find yourself, Go buy
yourself a stud find or screw somethinginto a wall because you you don't realize

(02:20:37):
you're there, and all of asudden, a year goes by and you're
like, we didn't put anything onthese fucking walls. What are we were?
Like these like vapid human hustles,Like what are we doing? Put
stuff on the walls and unless you'relooking at but look at all the shot
on your walls. Man, likeyeah, or get command strips and put
everything on the wall. Unless youhave plaster walls, then maybe don't nail
the thing into the wall unless youyou're ready to fix cracked plaster, which

(02:21:00):
could be tough. I mean,look, this is just the tease for
the homeowners podcast that we're starting upin Q two, and you know,
everyone get excited about it. Watermitigation, clean those gutters, make sure
you've got uh water angled away fromyour basement. I don't want to get
into it is this. Look,this is therapy for me, okay talking

(02:21:22):
about it. Don't put don't putdirt next to anything you don't want to
rot. If you have stacks ofyou know, earth next to your house
and you all of a sudden arelike, well, I'll just clean this
up over here, this pile oftrash. Oh my gosh, we're all
these bugs chewing through the wood onmy house. All right, last question
here, last question. Alex wantsyou to read this one about Oh okay,

(02:21:45):
backlar take this one. I thoughtyou right now? Is this from
RJ This one from j Okay derb screw. Which celebrity shift do you
think would be the most likely tobreak down and eat my waved pizza rolls
under the cover of night. Iput my note in here. The one
that I could think of that Icould totally see bacons and pizza rolls,

(02:22:09):
Tom Cliicio, Tom Clikio, everybody, yeah, yeah, yeah. The
guy from the Chef show was thecooking one. What was that one called
Top Chef Chef. Yeah, yeah, like everybody's asleep. He sneaks out
of bed, puts his little slipperson sand. It's like, Boop is

(02:22:30):
like, not these so much rightnow? They're delicious. See. I
don't think and I don't know anycelebrity show. Actually I do know one
quasi celebrity chef, but I don'tthink celebrity chefs like look down. Some
do, but they're not the onesyou want to be eating their food anyway.
Yeah, Like I feel like someof them are just like you eat
what makes you feel good? Yeah, well what if? I mean,

(02:22:52):
here's the thing, I'm not abig celebrity chef person. The closest I
get to it is reruns of IronChef America and of the Iron Chefs.
I feel like Michael Simon is probablythe most like the most likely one to
not only do that but embrace itand be stoked about it. And that
is no dis to Michael Simon's cooking. He seems like quite quite a good
chef, but he seems like thekind of guy would just be like,
yeah, fuck, I eat pizzarolls. Who cares? You know?

(02:23:16):
I have more of like a guiltyI would love to see it. Who's
the British dude is just yelling allthe time? Yeah, watch him eat
a bunch of Like. I don'twant to hear a man yellows or something
that's not interesting to me. Idon't need that in my life. No,
I'm just saying like, I'm justsaying I would love I feel like
he would freak out if anyone sawhim do that. I want to see

(02:23:39):
a real Okay, first, thisis going to be impossible because I want
to see a real reality TV.But I want to see somebody on a
reality TV show like our Top Cheffuck it up so badly, but then
just microwaves and pizza rolls on aplate and give it. Dude, that's
a good go. But I madethese and they're like, these are fucking

(02:24:03):
amazing. What are these? Youknow? I did a little thing.
I did some liquid nitrogen. Uh, I'm a it's just a mis mozzarella
reduction. It's a reduction. Ibroke it all up, I reinvented it.
And really it's just like a fuckingtoastino. As he pulled out,
it's just like I can't stop eatingthese, They're so good. Well that's

(02:24:24):
like the whole like blind blind winetasting thing. Oh right, people can't
tell if they're drinking a thousand dollarsbottle or like something that's you know,
twelve ninety nine what I would love. Oh, so here, let me
let me humor me and listen tothis quick story. I got a buddy
whose dad looks exactly and I'm notjoking when I say exactly exactly spitting image

(02:24:48):
of Andrew Zimmer. You know thatis Yeah, I don't know if that
guy's a good guy or a bitwhatever. He he's fine looks, and
I'm I cannot The only think that'sdifferent is the voice. They don't talk,
they don't, but but if yousee this person, you're like,
oh, that's him. Right.We were at his sons my friend's bachelor

(02:25:09):
party many years ago, and wewere at a resort in I think it
was Connecticut, and you know,he's we were showing up at the at
the restaurant, and the restaurant thoughtthat this is like this was all like

(02:25:31):
a pre planned thing. So hethey thought it was Andrew Zimmern, and
they thought Andrew Zimmern was like eithertaping something because people never eat outside of
television. That never happens. Iknow right what they thought was happening because
he went to the restaurant like theweek prior went in it was just like

(02:25:52):
my son's getting married, can II'm on a table for twenty But they
didn't like but they didn't talk aboutany They didn't even they said his name
is you know what his name was? Uh not my not Andrew zimmer They
just said his name, his son'sname, and they all like, So
we get to the restaurant, okay, and everyone's like every and everyone's like

(02:26:16):
treating us like we're part of thiscrazy celebrity dinner. And not once did
anyone like mention it to him.All they said was the Sheff would love
to meet you. And he cameout and met him and they shook his
but like, what do you doin that situation? Do you like?
Which did you realize what was happeningor we knew almost the meeting because people

(02:26:39):
were like looking because the restaurant itselfmade a big deal about it. Yeah,
but they never said why. Theynever and like we we paid and
we left and it was over andand then obviously we're leaving the restaurant and
everyone's like yo. That whole timethey were like thinking you were Andrew Zimmern
and like we were just it wasthe weirdest, strangest thing ever. Oh

(02:27:00):
my god, it was a wildstory. I would I would, I
would pay two dollars for the NFD, the token of that story that's all
about about to about hold on,hold on, it's gonna costs. It's
gonna cost you the entire production ofenergy production of a wind farm. That's

(02:27:24):
right, Hawaii. Just that's gonnado it for this week's show. Do
not send beast cast that giant bombNFT email, send the back, don't
send No, don't send to meBacklar, He'll deal with it. Do
not. This is my thing.I don't own this. I didn't.
This is not just my ownership ofthis, Jeff problem. This is not

(02:27:50):
a this is not my problem.Is that you brought this upon us.
People who are listening to the audiodon't understand that I was just standing at
you while you're talking. I triedto tell everyone about it last week,
but we didn't have enough time.And then look what happened. Okay,
So I tried to get out infront of it and stop this. Okay,

(02:28:11):
what did you think of? Right? And how'd that go? Well?
Because I got cut off, Igot ganked. The wrap it up
music started playing, okay, andthen I then the whole story went went
went out into the ether, andthen look what happened. People made five
million dollars. That's gonna do itfor this week's show. I'm serious.
Don't send me, don't I don't, I don't care, don't clog that

(02:28:33):
in box, send me I do, don't say I don't care, don't
send me anything. I don't care. Thank you, Jeff Bacalar. Good
luck with your soldering, dude,Uh all kidding aside. I'm We're gonna
We're gonna do this. We aregoing to make a keyboard on a stream.

(02:28:54):
We've been teasing it for six months, but it's definitely gonna happen.
You're gonna teach me how not touse the flux resin that I've been using
incorrectly. This whole time. Noflux no, right, yes, you're
using you're using your flux and resincorps o yourself, myself and myself in

(02:29:15):
a way. Okay, anyway,thank you promise me promise, no promises,
Alex Navarrow, thank you very much. Drumming tonight, Metallica. All
right, happy birthday if it's yourbirthday. Thanks everybody for listening to us,
Thanks for joining us, thanks formaking this podcast great podcasts and non
universe. We'll see you next weekon the Giant Bees Cast. As you

(02:29:43):
messed us up. He doesn't evenhear us. How do I know the
show's over? Okay, so we'vedone. Now that's the ending for the
people who are listening to the audioversion. And this is the ending if
you're listening to it live. Ready, check this out. Ready, what

(02:30:09):
happens you guys? You guys didn'tget the h You didn't get all this.
I was willing to believe that itwas over. You could have just
told me it was over. No, we're still alive, baby. This
is the secret secret ending here.Check this out. Wow, you're watching
this live. Now you get tohear the other part. Uh huh.
And this is where we'd be talkingover it all right, saying something,

(02:30:33):
uh, Backlar, what are youdoing, and like, oh no,
we gotta hurry up because it's it'sonly it's it's got it's got twenty seconds
left to get into it. Andthey're kind of going to something about this
and that, and the soldering ishappening and then all that and I'm gonna
I get the cut into the Igot the cut back into the audio,

(02:30:54):
back into the other one. Andit's very easy to do in the pre
recorded version, harder to do hereon the live version. But if you
like this, and once you hearhere, don't forget to listen to the
Giant Peace Cast each week. Man, I nailed it on another one too,

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but you couldn't hear it in thetiming. Thanks for listening, folks,