The Giant Beastcast: Episode 303

We get into Loop Hero, conclude the current Harvest Moon saga, and talk about Maquette. Bethesda and Microsoft seal the deal, Roblox stock goes on sale, and Mike Patton loves to dine on turtle soup. Also, don't eat solder.

Episode Transcript

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Hello everybody, and welcome back tothe Giant Beast Cast. I'm Vinny Caravella
out here to welcome you on thishere episode. We got here. This
is the three zero three. Thisis three h three. I think this

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might be three oh three. Itis Thursday, March eleventh, Friday March
twelfth. Miss that March thirteenth,Friday March thirteenth, by one day.
Whoa dodge that one. I'm joinedby Alex Navarro. Hello, oh,
you wanted me to keep going?She's taking a sip of my tea.
I'm joined by Jeff Backlar. Hellothere. I will stretch this intro out

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as long as you possibly need toenjoy a tasty beverage from your grover mug.
Thank you, Oh so good.It's so tasty and delicious. You
got some almond milk, chocolate vanillaalmond milk in my tea. I was
shocked when I put it in andrealized I had been missing out. Look

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at look at this. I gota little little boost because I don't put
too much sweetener in it. Iwas like, this is so delicious.
What do you put in there forsweetener? There? Vinny? Why I
put a little bit of sugar.Put a little sugar. Oh yeah,
even after the pre show, you'restill on sugar. I see, I
put a little bit. Hey,I might be counting some calories no calories
and sugar, but I'm living life. Any calories and sugar. No zero

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calories, zero calorie sugar, juststraight straight sweet. I don't know.
You don't need sugar, You're sweetenough. Alex and Varro, whoa,
we just watch Snatch? Is thatin Snatch? Vinny, that's what my
grandmother used to say that? Well, then your grandmother was a huge fan.

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To say grandmother, Guy Ritchie andSnatch in the same sentence, go
ahead, you go ahead. I'mmother is a fan of the Guy Ritchie,
Wild Goose Chase fiasco, We WillRock Crime. Yes, she loved
We Will Rock You, your grandmotherand the movie Snatch. There are two

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things that co exist in the inthe year two thousand, she was we
Will Rock You, Right? Didn'the do that? Wait? The Queen
biopic? No, the one withthe Knights? Uh? Where the oh
No Tale? No, that's notGuy Rich the Sherlock Holmes things that movies?

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But night was the one that Aladdinnew Aladdin movie? Uh? With
Genie crimes. But also but also, uh did he didn't he do a
new sort of spiritual successor to hislike fiasco crime caper, you know,
dumb criminals thing with this. Ithink people liked it, didn't they.

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Maybe I have not watched one ofhis movie. He's in a very long
time, so I don't know.I just watched Snatch again and never my
wife. Oh well then, butmy wife had never seen it and it
was on a channel and I waslike, I have this, let's just
watch this, and she really likedit. And I forgot that movie.
I think that movie is still good. I think that movie's all right.

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Okay, that's all I gotta say. What lock Stock and Two Smoking Barrels,
Okay, that was? I believethat was the movie that got him
onto the scene, vaulted him intosuperstardom. Sting is in that movie,
and you know he likes to reusea lot of the same actors. Okay,

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Oh no, that was That wasthe only time I think he was
like, I don't remember, wasthat the introduction of Statham to the world
or was that that's a fair that'sa that's a fair guess. I'm not
sure. Uh wait, a minute. You've definitely done the bread pit accent
to me before from Snatch the bikeylike dogs like dogs? No, who

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are you saying this too? Divinnyyou like dogs? Oh shit, who
am I thinking of? Maybe itis you, Alex, You've done it.
Say it, Alex, we needto know say it dogs? Dogs?
Yeah? Dogs? Anyway, gogo watch Snatch. Uh you know
it's in the dit Beats cast wherewe got everything correct one hundred percent of

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time for you always speaking of notgetting things one hundred percent correct. I've
played some Harvest Moon in one worldthat watched you play some That is a
game that inint corrects. Don't playthat game. Oh that is not the
Harvest Moon you're looking for. Inin case you missed my pedantic intro to
the quick Look, I will sayit is a Harvest Moon. That was.

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It is the counterfeit Harvest Moon,even though not somebody owns the name
harvest Uh, marvelous are the peoplewho made the actual Harvest Moon games.
They were called Story of Seasons.I want to always say Song of Season,
Story of Seasons. That's what theywere called. In Japan, the
Kape, the United States, theywere called Harvest Moon here when that somebody
brought them over marvelous deadwood with exceedto bring their stuff over. Those games

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are now called Story of Season theUnited States. Not to May said,
well, we still own in thisname Harvest Moon. Let's make Harvest Moon
games that are not good, andthat appears to be what they're doing.
So I played a bunch of that. I put in about probably about a
dozen hours. I will not beplaying anymore. So folks were like,
why are you so? Why areyou putting in so many hours? And

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I feel like what's wrong? AndI feel like, Okay, Well,
I got a couple of reasons.One, the Harvest Moon is kind of
a storied franchise, right, It'sit's a it's a beloved franchise traditionally.
Uh. And I wanted I knewthe I knew the next Story of Seasons
games was coming out later this month, and I figured, ou, I'm
gonna put some time in see wherethese franchises are at. I'm gonna try
and do I'm gonna try and dosome dude diligence here. Two, a

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window of time suddenly opened up inmy mornings where the kids are on a
much better routine. Uh, andthey're on a much more self sufficient routine
that I can now play some gamesas long as they are kind of kid
friendly while the kids are in school, because they're gonna drop down during break.
So Harvest Moon, though it isoffensive maybe to my eyes, is
not offensive for them, and theycan kind of sit and watch while they're

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on break, and so I wasable to kind of squeeze some hours in
over the course of a week there. And third and third, if I
really, if I'm gonna say thingslike don't buy this game, I want
to be pretty sure it's bad.You know. Yeah, that's a reason.
That's a good reason to keep playinga shitty game. Yeah. Yeah.
But let me be clear about somethinghere, because I sat in on
this on the quick look you did, and admittedly my perception was somewhat colored

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by your previous discussions of this,But I was able to tell this was
not great within about the let's say, twenty thirty minutes. But like,
maybe it got better, right,it could, it could. It's like
maybe it's one of the Hey,I've had a lot of build the Thing
games, right, and sometimes theyhave very slow starts, and sometimes they
don't. I have not played thefarming genre since probably a dabbling and Stardo

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Valley, which is a very goodgame. And then but I didn't play
a ton of it, so Iwanted to know, Hey, is this
how these go? Or is thisa bad game? Or if this is
how these go, this is notfor me. Turns out I think this,
I think this Harvest Moon one Worldgame is not good. And you
can watch a quick look of that. But you know, let's see where

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things go. You know, there'sother games in this series, Ruined Factory,
Story of Seasons or not the seriesthis genre, and I'm curious to
see where that goes. So Iso I put that down. If you
want to find out all the reasonswhy I think this is not a good
game, you can go watch thatquick look. It's about a half hour
forty five minutes long, goes intodepth there. I don't want to relive

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it. I don't want to hereon the podcast, it's uh, it's
it's like a it's not a funexperience. And then then I so,
then I finished up Maquette. Howlong did that take you to do?
By the way, I'm looking toblast through that, so I think it
took me about four to five hours, but my playtime is about seven hours.

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Again, if I'm squeezing stuff inwhile the kids are in school,
I have to get up and likeleave it stuff running for a while.
So I'm gonna say actual playtime itis probably about fourty five hours with you
know, like probably two hours oflike hey, I'm I'll be right,
I'll hold on. Uh Okay,I'm not. I guess I wasn't asking
for those those parts of your time, but sure. Ye. Well,
if I say four to five hoursand then somebody looks at my Steam page

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and it says like, hey,it says seven hours here, you liar,
and it's like, hey, Iwant you to know. Yeah,
because the Steam counter is always accurate, everyone knows one hundred percent. So
Mquette is a narrative based puzzle gamein the vein of something like, well
the puzzles are are There's a gamecalled The Fisherman's Tail. There was a
VR game for the PlayStation VR,and I think the puzzles most closely resemble

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a lot of that. It istaking a big or small thing, putting
it inside a representation of the outsideworld that is bigger or smaller, and
then the thing actually shrinks right rightright, yeah, in the in the
representation of that thing shrinks. Gosh. I wrote this down when I did
the quick look because I always forgetthe name, and now I don't have
my notes in front of me.What is the other one? That superliminal?

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Is that the superliminal? And lastlast week I was I was trying
to place my finger on a gamethat I felt might be similar, and
that game was called Anti Chamber.Sure, oh yeah, Anti Chamber,
I feel like so all right,So compared to Anti Chamber, Anti Chamber
is a much more off the walls, you know, just outside the box.

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This is a little more sky yea, yeah, this is a little
more straightforward. I think the puzzlesare clever. I think there's a bit
towards the end. I just mentioned. This game is twenty bucks. Twenty
bucks, I believe on Steam.I think it's free on PS plus if
you have a PlayStation five. Ohreally, I think so. But I
think you know, if you havea PS four h NPS plus you can

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reserve it. But I think it'splayable on the PS five, you know
what I mean. Like you canbe like, hey, I want to
add this to my library. Butthe PS five version, I think is
the thing that is actually you candownload and play. I'm gonna I'm gonna
knock that out right after Little Nightmares. Yes, that probably be my weekend,
so I'm sorry if that's incorrect.As of the time of this,
I think that's I think that's right. I played it on the PC story

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based puzzle game. It's the kindof mechanics center around this miniature model that
represents the outside world, and youinteracting with objects from the outside world and
putting them into the miniature model.I think there's a section towards the back
third that really hits a stride thatI really thought the puzzles were hitting the

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metaphors in the story they're going for, like you know, like they're they're
really clicking in a way that's like, oh, yes, I'm solving this
puzzle because it's a metaphor for what'shappening in the story. I get it,
this makes sense. I did haveto look up a couple I think
it does lose the thread on someof the puzzles in a way that's like,
oh, that's I didn't want todo all that that leg work on

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that one. There's a lot ofbacktracking on some stuff, but overall it's
enjoyable. It's it's pretty short,and the voice acting I think is actually
very very good. It's Bryce DallasHoward with her husband Seth No. Could

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you look up Bryce Dallas Howard's husband, Sure, sure, Ken really uh
Ron Howard's daughter Bryce Dallas Howard,Seth Gable, Seth Gable, who's also
an actor, And they just havea very natural rapport in the voice work
in this, In this kind ofromantic love story. I think the your
mileage made varry comes from, Hey, do you think this love story here

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is going to make you vomit today? Or is this charming today? And
I kind of went back and forthover the two or three sessions I played
it in of like too, oh, this is beautiful. I want to
being in love is beautiful too,Like getto over yourselves? Oh just just
go away, get a room,you two. So yeah, I think

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it's they've probably been in a roomfor about a year now and probably actually
like to get out of that room. I does anyone know how this came
to together? Like as in it'san ant turna joint, that's the thing.
Like I was always getting towards becauseAnna Perner dabbles in a lot of
film obviously, so I wonder ifthere's like that's maybe actually their primary business.

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Yeah right, So I wonder,you know, is that how like
things go around. I don't knowif anyone's told this story, but I'm
I'm always curious to hear how thesethings come together. Well, when they
release the version with the commentary trackin a year, then maybe they'll talk
about that. The other thing youcan do is just look up this game,
because because it has Bryce Dallas Howardand Seth Gable in it, every

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like TV and movie site picked itup. So I'm sure you can find
out that was the thing, becauseI feel like I had not. I
didn't know that. I feel likeI would have heard that by now,
which which I guess I'm equally assurprise by I didn't know until I saw
the Well, so when I wasplaying, I was like, Wow,
these voice actors are great, Likethey're really they're really doing a great job.
This is for what can be toosaccharin and make me want to put

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my fist of the TV. Thisis actually working for me for the most
part. And then I was waitingfor the credits to see who did the
voice work, and I was like, no kidding. I looked it up
and of course it's like every youknow, press release that was released from
this thing, picked up by aTV or movie coverage site of like,
hey, look at this game,and this is this thing. So yeah,
it's I think it's I think it'sa good game. I don't know
if i'd call it great, butI think it's It was worth my twenty

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bucks, though I think I wassent to code, Okay, So which
is it? I think I wouldhave been fifty bucks for Harvest Moon and
bought the fucking DLC for it.I deserve something I deserve. I'm not
sure that's how that works, butI deserve I deserve. Also, I

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also don't blame you either, soI also think you believe that you deserve
good things. I deserve good things. So that's maquette. That's the name
of that game. M a qE E T t E. Also,
Mackette's not a Every time I typedmcquette and all the coverage stuff we were
doing in slack and all this stuff, is it not a real word?
I really thought it was. Isit just? Is it really? Things?

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Aren't real word. Peacecast isn't areal world word, but like,
I feel like it must be likea French word or something, but that
has not been adopted into the Imean, it could just be the name
of a place. It doesn't happen. I thought it's a miniature. I
thought it's a miniature thing, like, hey, this is a maqette.
It's a miniature version of this thing. I think you're just inventing. I
literally never heard that term before outsideof this. So wow, it does

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sound It does sound like a reallike it should be. Yeah, it
seems like it has French origin,French etymology, but but also who cares?
I every time I typed in itand be like, oh this is
a typo, I'm like, no, okay, we're just we're just not
in the uh in the old oeedhere all right. Uh So then I

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downloaded Desperados three. It was onit's on the game pass, and I
was like, you know, I'veheard a lot of good stuff about this
game. I'm gonna go go toshot bumped into it was like, this
seems like this could be a lotof fun. Closed it after about two
minutes and played Stard Valley because Iwanted to have a palate cleanser from Harvest
Moon and say, I need toremember what Stardy Valley was. Like,
Wait, it started to go backreal quick. Ny he did a whole
bit on the word macquette. Fuckinglook it up, dude, No,

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it's a word. What didn't itdoes not It's not in the dictionaries.
Once again, the worst searcher ishere to tell us, what did you
use? Bing? What did youlike? I don't understand. Like the
first thing that comes up, it'sa French word for scale model. Yeah,
but it's but it's it's not likeI said, it's just not in
the spelling correctors or whatever. Ohyou want spell check to firm your word

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for you every time you don't believeit exists. That's every time I typed
it. And it's like the redline underneath, and it's just like,
oh, okay, I guess Iguess I missed that one up. Those
red lines don't know what they're fuckthey're talking about. Everyone knows that.
Everyone knows that, So yeah,exactly, Never trust a spell check.
I also like to be colored linewith the red line. Sometimes I feel

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like I missed a little bit more, Well, you still see the line
outlook, Relax, I'm gonna usethings like probably mostly kind of when I
write an email. You don't haveto tell me every freaking time to be
like, you know, qualifiers usuallyundermine the intent of your thing and be
like, maybe you should fuck offyou know what, you can definitely turn

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that off number one, But numbertwo, I don't know how to turn
it off, and I'm not reallyinterested. All look, alt loook,
does everything safe? For calling mea dumb piece of shit? Really?
I'm composing these emails and A lookslike, Jeff, maybe you don't say
the word much because you use ita lot and it makes you sound fucking
stupid. Yeah, how about Ijust like to see talk to me like
that? Outlook, I didn't askfor you, Yeah, I look,

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it's very judgy in a way thatGmail is not what the fuck Gmail?
Gmail doesn't have a conversation with Gmailis just reading all your stuff being like,
uh huh, what else are yougonna say? Uh huh? Outlook?
Is there to be like? Okay, so I looked over this and
here's some notes. Here's some notesfor your email. Uh, who's this
going to? Oh boy? Ohlet's sit down. You got five minutes,
let's sit down. Let's go.Jesus, you might as well say

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see me after class. Oh mygod, right right, I send some
notes back on your email. Well, first of all, good luck with
that promotion. Second of all,you know, wat Jeff, I'm gonna
do your favor and not say I'mjust gonna recrect this your ta Okay,
we do you a favorite. Weboth don't need to be embarrassed by this

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email. Okay. I looked upyour third grade English teacher. Uh what
was I talking about? Oh?Starde Valley. Hell of a game?
Yeah, hell of a game.Continue. I bought it on the switch.
I only had it on the PC. Bought on the switch. We're
going to introduce the kids in someStardi Valley. There's co op. They
patch that in at some point.I'll probably play some of that this weekend
with the with the children. AndI finally finished or Will of the Whisps.

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Uh, how did you find it? Well? I loved it,
I really did. I think it'san amazing game. And I was pretty
close. I was pretty close tothe end, but I finally wrapped it
up. But one hundred percent ofthe map I got everything. I was
almost going to do all the achievements, but there are like three achievements in
there that are just what are youdoing. There's one in there that's beat

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the game in four hours, There'sone in there that is don't touch the
poison water ever, and there's onein there, yeah, and there's one
in there that's beat it without dying, And I was like, I cannot.
I mean someone has to be ableto do that. Nobody can do
that. It's impossible. So Idon't think those are meant to be like

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first fry achievements. Those are kindof go back and get them later achievements.
Well, I was, well,if you have to beat the game
of four hours, you're going back. But I for sure thought, well,
you must be able to start witha new game plus and just all
the abilities in law, and Idid not see that option, but maybe
I missed it. Anyway. Thetraversal stuff by the end of that game

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is just so fun. They giveyou. I love games like that that
break by giving you two overpower youso much where you're just like, oh,
this thing that used to be incrediblyhard, now I can just fly
basically this platform, or now Ican just fly around. The only thing
that happened that was a bit ofa bummer is I beat the last boss
and it was had this very touchingcutscene and the game crashed and then and

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it was like it was a challengingboss fight, but it was one of
those boss fights that what I hadto do, so I had to do
it all again because it doesn't savefor progress during that point. But once
you figured out the patterns, wasn'tas challenging, you know, like it's
challenging because you're figuring out how tobeat the boss. So I was able
to beat it again fairly quickly.But it did crash during the last cut
scene, which was kind of abummer. Hard crash just right right to

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the desktop, right to the Xboxdesktop. So that's what I've been playing,
Alex, what'd've been up to.So I'm in one of those situations
now where I have a game andit has become my fixation game. It's
kind of the thing that I amfilling the spaces with and it's doing it
in a very similar way to theway Into the Breach did, which makes

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sense because of a similar kind ofgame. I of course, still talking
about fights in tight spaces which Icannot seem to release myself from. It's
there's just something about that kind ofstrategy game and that kind of pace of
it where you are kind of justyou know runs. Let's say, a

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successful run would probably take you know, multiple hours, probably like three or
four if you were to do itthe whole way through. I have not
done that so far. I havebeaten the second of the four campaigns I
got wrecked by the Ninjas, andthe third one. And yeah, like
it's it's not that I think itis like the most inventive or daring or

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you know, unique game I haveplayed in a long time. It's just
hitting this particular part of my brainwhere whenever a run goes wrong, I'm
like, well, I gotta startanother one. And that's dangerous because that
can siphon up a lot of time, a lot of life. And granted,
I'm indoors a lot these days,so maybe that's not as much of
a big deal. But yeah,like I'm kind of in the throes of

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it in a way that I sortof don't quite know how to detach myself
from at the moments. Yeah,but it's real good, is the thing?
Like I'd feel worse about it ifthe game were not fun, and
it is. And the variance ofdifferent attacks and cards that you get on
each run seems to be pretty significant. So I haven't had any one run

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that felt like another, Like itseems like my abilities have been pretty different
as as as you move along andyou can't beat that game, right,
there is a progression to get tothe end. Okay, Yeah, there's
four chapters, and each one isa series of fights against a particular type
of enemy and a type of environment. So like the first one is all
bikers, the second one is isyou going to cover in a prison?

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The third one is you fight ninjasin Berlin. For some reason, you
know, it's doing some very likeit's being cheeky about it's sort of like
spy action movie tropes, but youknow, it's also the strategies that you
employ in each of those different chaptersare pretty significant, Like they're pretty different
from one another, and I havegenerally been playing as the attack heavy deck.

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That's the one where it's like it'salmost all like, you know,
offense and then supplementing it with defenseas I go along, just because I
really like using like the wall jumppunch and you know, just the wild
like five forty kicks and shit thatstuff. Fun. Yeah, it's fun.
It's it's just it's real good andI'm a very good time with it.
Fights, fights in tight spaces earlier. Yeah, and I will say

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I need that game to come outon consoles. Also, please do not
come out on consoles, because thatwill siphon up even more of my time
if that thing ends up on theswitch at some point, Alex anything else
that's kind of been it. Imean I've been I played a little more
Strikers I played. I dabbled ina couple of things, but nothing.
Nothing. I've spent significant time withJeff Backlar. Hello there says you've been

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playing loop Hero. Yeah, I'vebeen playing. I've been playing loop Hero.
I've played about three hours of it, okay, and I think I
like it good. Okay. It'ssomething I haven't played in a very long
time. It is, or atleast a type of game that I have
not played in a very long time. Don't have a terrible amount of experience

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with this style of game, butI do find it very very cool and
interesting. It is a game whereyou are a here row in some sort
of world that has been sucked upby this evil, ominous thing, and
you are basically put on this believeit or not, cyclical path a loop,

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a loop if you will, overand over until you basically decide to
jump out of it and then goback to like a base building simulator.
Okay. So again it's this isnot a kind of game I play a
lot of, but I was ableto really pick it up relatively quickly and
easily. So there's a few,uh parts of it, a few details

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about it that I'm still a littlefuzzy on as to exactly their specific purpose
or like their gamification purpose, LikeI'm not exactly sure how I use them
in strategy. But you know,I'm at the point now where I've done
maybe like twelve or third teen loopsand when you so you basically the loop

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has a you know, like afinish line, and that finish line is
the campsite. Every time you makea loop, uh, and you've and
you've crossed over the campsite, youget some health back and certain things reset.
And as you fight enemies okay thatare on the loop, you fight
automatically okay, And there's certain metricsthat and and buffs and you know stat

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boosters. So for example, likemy my guy now has like uh really
fast, I mean, and itchanges loop by loop to loop, but
I ultimately the the idea is tocontinue on the loop for kind of as
long as you can survive and completethe loop, so that you pass the
finish line, you get that HPbump. And as you are finishing and

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beating enemies. Out of the enemiescome cards. They spit out to the
to the bottom of your screen.And also what spits out our items,
and there's about nine to twelve slotsfor items. So you got like a
weapon, armor, ring, andother ship that I haven't really gotten into
just yet. And you're and youcan pause the action so you can.

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They call that the planning mode.So when you're in the planning mode,
that's when you can really quickly placeyou know, replace your weapon, replace
your armor, do some stuff youwant with the cards at the bottom.
OK, here's what's cool. Thecards at the bottom you essentially need to
place on the map because it's likethis gritted SimCity sort of plate, right,

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So you unlock these things in thecards, like their cemeteries, beacons,
graveyards, and you place them onthe map. It could either be
like on the map at large oron the specific loop. So if you
place like a cemetery on the loop, every three days that go by,
a skeleton will will spawn in thatspot, so you're constantly So the thing

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that I am still grappling with isunderstanding do I use all the cards all
the time? Do do I holdon to them? Some of the cards
are just mountains. Some of themare just like geography, so you can
start building mountains in the distance,and the more mountains that are on the
map get uh add to your it'syour HP once. Every time you complete

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a loop, things get layered andcomplex pretty quickly, which is really describe.
Oh no, I think, Ithink I'm following. I'm trying.
It's just like, yeah, gettinghard. This is a game that like
you kind of need to see itgo through a loop or or three or

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four or five times before you're likeokay, because it's world building and it's
it's it's not RTS. I'm sorry, it's not it's not turn base because
it's automated in a way, soyou don't really like you're not doing the
turns. The game auto completes fights. And yeah, I mean a lot

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of it is is plate spinning becauseyou're just sort of maneuvering inventory items to
kind of give your character the bestchance of completing the loop. So what
happens if you die? I've neverdied, of course, of course,
of course I've not died yet.I've gotten really close. I've gotten to
like I've gotten to like eighty fiveHP, and then I was just and

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then you have the option every timeyou pass go, I'm gonna call it
go. Every time you pass thecamp fire to spawn out. The second
you spawn out, you go intothis like safe world where you have friends
and you're building up a campsite,so there's like camp fire, there's tense,
you know you and again and youmentioned this during your whole thing,
you're collecting you know, items,resources, So the more would you have.

(28:56):
You can upgrade the camp site whenyou get out, and you can
upgrade that. You can make likea blacksmith tent and you can make you
know, whatever it is. Right, So I have not died yet,
which I thought. I guess apart of me was just like, let
me just die, but you youknow I and I guess to that to
that point. It is not easy, but it's not super difficult either.

(29:22):
What's the goal? You know?The goal I assume is to like build
out your home world, your yourcampsite world to a point where I don't
I don't know right now. Theredoesn't seem to be much that I'm playing
towards, aside from maybe understanding moreof the story, like what happened?
Why is there this empty void?Uh? You believe the world to be
like gone forever, but then yousort of sort of meet creatures and people

(29:47):
who are like I have a vaguememory of the land before all this happened,
But every night I go to bedand I forget about it. That's
strange, but it's it's still enoughof a thread for me to kind of
keep ch and along. Yeah,I've heard a lot of people talk about
it. I think we have aQuick Look up now. I think Jan
is from of it this morning.It's something I want to check out.

(30:10):
Watching Jan stream it and watching theQuick Look just kind of in the background,
was getting other stuff ready. Didn'tlook appealing at first, but hearing
you talk about it the mechanics,I'm like, Okay, this is this
is interesting. I should check thisout. Yeah, the mechanics are better
than the esthetics. I think LoupHero. Yeah, but it's it's out

(30:33):
and for me, that's also notentirely true. I do, I do
like the look of the thing.I also like the music. I think
the some of the music and someof the sound effects are pretty fun.
But I mean, you could runthis on anything, so that's cool.
I'm playing on PC. Is thatis it out on any consoles? I
don't. I don't know, Idon't. I it might be. It

(30:57):
is a very much a point andclick thing, but yeah, I'm digging
it. I I like, evenbefore we got on today, I played
in another hour of it just becauseI'm I'm sort of just like, I
gotta keep seeing what's happening here.It's fun, you know when you when
you start the loop over, there'snothing on the board, so you but
very quickly things pop up and youknow it's fun. You you the idea

(31:21):
of this world building mechanic layered ontop of this, you know, leveling
up your character sort of thing isa really interesting combination that I just really
not done before. So that I'mI'm into it. Yeah. Yeah,
anytime there's a game that I thinkwe struggle with to define because we can't

(31:41):
use shorthand for the genre, orstruggle to define because you can't just say
it's a blank, Like is interestingbecause it's yeah, well, especially now,
like so many games are just abouttaking, you know, familiar ideas
from various genres and kind of mashingthem together. Like the thing that actually
kind of put me off of thisthing initially was people describing it as an
idol game, and I was like, I don't know, but I don't

(32:05):
know if I need any more nidol games in my life. But as
I've kind of seen people talking moreabout it and seen some footage of it,
I'm like, oh, okay,this is not just an idol Like
there's something. There's something more goingon. I don't mean like you wait
around for shit to finish, Yeah, you're just waiting shit for numbers to
go up. No, I meanthere is in the beginning, there is
a very small amount of that.Yeah. You can also like play at
twice the speed so the game,so you'll continue the loop two times faster

(32:30):
than you normally would, which isa smart thing, which that's what really
made me think of like the SimCity stuff, Jeff, is your dog
backing up somewhere and now he's leadthis tractor just showed up, and I
hope he's leaving up. Yeah,he's getting at him all right, Frank,
thank care. But oh he seemsto be driving right towards her house.
So no, and I'm sorry aboutthat. And yeah, it's you

(32:55):
know, it's funny because I didhear a lot of like genre buzzwords getting
tossed that. I'm just like,you know what, let's not do that
in describing this game, Jeff.Let's just describe it for what it is,
because I wouldn't even know how tostart with that nonsense. That's what
the game is, like, Uh, it's it's certainly interesting. The whole
deck building thing, though, kindof threw me for a loop because when

(33:17):
you get out of the when youget out of the loop world, what
you get out and and you uhand you like see this whole deck building
thing, and the game doesn't necessarilydo a great job of preparing you for
that, because all you know,there's a mini mini tutorial and you finish

(33:40):
that up, and at no pointis the game like, oh, but
you're also gonna have to like mindwhat's in your deck? And I don't
know if I fully understood that elementof the game just yet. Okay,
if that, well, there's stilltime, still time. I feel like,
you know, I'll get to that. Well, got we'll get we'll
get there. But if you guyscould both play that and talk to me

(34:04):
about it next week, I cancheck that out. I would like that.
Harvest mean one world's out of mylife. It's like it's like a
new lease, Babe, complete theloop for me. I'll be your hero.
So anything else, Uh, justjust been doing a lot of tear
down still. Yeah. And that'sand Little Nightmares, which I've not completed

(34:29):
yet, Little which is which isa fun one. I think I might
get that and try that with thekiddos. No Little Nightmares, No too
creepy. I know. I thinkyou you actually sort of maybe with your
daughter. M Yeah, all right. Wednesday Wednesday were we played this.

(34:52):
We got this game called Dice Throne. It's a it's a kind of it's
to me, it very much feelslike overwatched, but a board game.
You have these heroes that you pickthat you want to fight against each other,
but you know it's not necessarily teambased anyway, all these different characters.
I got the two seasons of it, which means there's like, I
don't know, sixteen characters. I'mlike, do you want to try one

(35:13):
and we'll play somebody. She's like, I want to do this one.
I was like you sure, yeah, the Vampire Lord yep. Uh.
I was like, the arts nottoo creepy for you. No, It's
like, you know what this ison her mouth? Right, it's blood.
She drinks blood. Like, okay, let's do it. If you're
cool, if you're cold, let'sgo, let's go Vampire Lord. She
sounds cool. Man. Yeah,she's real cool kid. She's gonna be

(35:36):
just fine. It's all gonna befine. Other than those those games.
I know you don't want to hearmore about my keyboard nersery. Oh,
I always want to hear more aboutyour keyboard nerdery. There's nothing really new
to report there. Up. Well, it's just like just a lot of
people reaching out about those switches andstuff that I was talking about. So
thanks to everyone who who is humoringme on Twitter about that stuff completely unrelated.

(36:02):
I uh. I tried, Sothere's like a just just stay with
me, Okay, I tried outa brand new species of apple. That's
exciting. That's a new apple thatI think they've been working on for close

(36:23):
to twenty seven years. That's somebody'slife work there, and it came out,
I want to say, in likelate twenty nineteen. But this this
season is the first season I thinkit's been available on the East coast.
What what is it? What's it'scalled. It's called cosmic crisp. Is

(36:45):
a hybrid. It is a hybridof honey crisps, delicious apple, the
fucking like a pinnacle in my opinionof apples supremacy, where's the comic weed?
And and then just straight up juststraight up no enterprise apples, which

(37:09):
I didn't even hadn't even heard of. Randy Smith Gala you shining a black
light over them, they glow likea fucking cosmic bowling. That would be
funny if they just had like specsof like shiny disco ball. It's yeah,
uh, it's so weird. AndI like started reading about this and

(37:30):
this like you know, college laboratoryyou know, made this essentially and started
growing it. And it took reallylong, and they're like it took forever,
took twenty seven years. Apparently that'sall. Apparently honey Crisp is also
some sort of like you know,genetically engineered apples. The only honey Crisp

(37:52):
I recognize as the cereal. It'snot my favorite cereal though. Yeah.
It actually got me starting to thinkof Honey Combs. Remember Honeycombs Combs more.
You know, I would say,you have Golden Crisp, Golden Crisp,
which is the Combs and Golden Crisp. Now you can find those two
doog is smacks going, that's honeySmacks, which is the one. Almost

(38:14):
sugar Bear, sugar Bear, theSweetbear, the bear Bear. The bear
is Golden Crisp. I believe that'sGolden Crisp. Golden Crisp. Okay,
yeah, boy, get enough ofthat Golden Crisp. Yeah yeah? Is
that just not like a knockoff cerealor something? God, I am almost
forty, aren't I If that's that'smy breakfast cereal, like you know,

(38:36):
point back and be like, yeah, that's the ship, Like I'm I'm
fucking old. It's too sweet.Oh, it's very sweete Cosmic chris apples
are excellent. Yeah, they're not. You know, when you bite into
a honey crisp for the first time. You're sort of just like, where
have these been my whole life?Right, because you're just like apparel,
Yeah, this is just candy.This guy's is a fruit. Uh,

(39:00):
this is a much more like mutedsugary sort of taste. You can taste
the honey crisp in there, butit's a but it's it's a more like
traditional apple. It's a little more. It's it's a little the sweetness is
not as like tart as it isn'ta honey crisp. I just a'm fascinated
by the fact that, like,we made these apples and they're all just

(39:22):
like the branch of the of onetree. Because apparently all apples were never
sweet, like some of them woundup being sweet. So when we found
the sweet apple tree, we're like, yo, that one, we gotta
got one all that other burn itto the ground, we gotta use that
sweet tree. Cut off the branches, send them all over wherever you can

(39:43):
grow an apple tree and plant thatyou And that's what we do. We
like graph the sweet apple branches.I'm you buy the seeds or is one
of those things where're like, wow, these are reproduce. So these all
the seeds inside your apple? Youwant to, I can talk to him
Monsanto about that ship. There's noand there's no seeds in the apple.

(40:05):
Yeah, fucking glure's there's seeds inthe apple. Mean of course you're telling
me there's seeds in this apple.Okay, it's not out of the realm,
like you can get like seedless,like a seedless grape, which is
weird. Again, I suppose Inow that I think I invented that science

(40:28):
fiction fruittery. Maybe it could bea thing that's where like do they wait,
do they make you're saying they Ifeel like we're having a fucking riker
conversation right now. Can you canthey make an apple that doesn't have seeds?
I don't know. Probably probably theyprobably like cross it with a jellyfish
or something and like suddenly it doesn'tmake it glows in the dark and doesn't

(40:49):
make seeds. Anyway, go checkthem out. I was stoked on it
when I saw in the store.I was like, nice reading about it
for a while, that's so funny. It was apple blogs and it was
like, on there, hey,it's a new fruit, like we invented
it. We invented a new fruit. Welcome almost three decades of hard work.

(41:12):
It's just like those fucking those awfulviral ads that are at the bottom
of there's like throw away your oldapples, here's the new ones. That's
right, and just it was likethe banana. Your old apples will go
extinct and you'll never people will neverknow what an apple was. There was
at one point, I want tosay, in the early two thousands,
I remember reading stories about how likea certain species of banana was going extinct.

(41:36):
Just no, no, but itdid it ever happen? I believe,
I believe. Okay, don't sendit a correction, please. I'm
gonna preface this by saying, Ibelieve at some point there was a something
happened in the I want to say, mid fifties, forties or mid fifties,
that the bananas we have today arenot the bananas they had then.
We have a different strain of bananasthat I'm pretty sure I can recall that.

(41:58):
Yes, yeah, and I believeif something similar seemed to be on
the horizon, but I'm not sure. Huh. But anyway, we let's
sell anyway, catch me Sunday.I'll be unboxing a bunch of apples and
year Backlar gets every apple he can. He does a taste test, I
mean naturally natural, and build somethingabout it. This one here, this

(42:21):
is the I'm mac pro. Thisis uh this taste back delicious and it's
delicious. Let me tell you it'sdelicious. This is a phone. All
right? Should we should we takea break. We'll be right back.
Yeah, all right, here wego. I guess we'll come back.
We'll come back. Hold on,we sure you can hear this? Yeah,

(42:45):
we are back. Hello everybody.It is time to go into a
bit of what happened in the newsthis week. A couple of stories here,
let's kick it off. Alex hewent through pulled some stories. Let's
kick it off with this one here. Beth and Microsoft now just the best
of friends. Yeah, so,I mean, obviously it's not news that

(43:06):
Microsoft was buying Bethesda. That's that'sbeen known for some time. But the
deal closed this week. It isdone. All the regulatory nonsense has been
solidified. And as someone I thinkwe all hear who have gone through a
similar, if not nearly as priceyprocess. Yeah, it takes a while
for i'll that shit to get sortedout. So yes, officially, Bethesda

(43:28):
is now part of the Microsoft familyof products, and there was a live
stream today. This is actually I'mcombining the story. Right after this,
there was a live stream today whereI guess Phil Spencer and at least a
couple of folks from Bethesda we're talkingabout the deal, kind of what's going
on with them going forward, andthere wasn't really a lot learned from that.

(43:51):
Necessarily. It was more than justkind of confirming what a lot of
people believed, which is that theyhave some contracts they need to honor,
which means that some of their upcomingproducts will be multi platform. But also
this deal was done as a wayto bolster Microsoft's family of exclusives, so
going down the road, obviously theyhaven't said which titles yet, but down
the road, I think it's it'ssafe to expect that Bethesda products will be

(44:13):
exclusive to places where you can playyour Xbox stuff, whether that be on
an Xbox or on a PC.Yeah, at the very least time to
exclusive, right and for a yeah, and god only knows, you know,
again which games that's going to,because a lot of Bethesta stuff is
pretty far off right now. Butyou know, it's just that they're they're
more or less just reconfirming what wealready kind of knew. One thing that

(44:36):
did get announced, however, isthat a whole bunch of Bethesta games are
coming to game Pass starting tomorrow.Yes. I feel like this either was
rumored or had been hinted at beforethat some of the stuff is going to
happen. So what we have,what we got, So it's it's it's
apparently going to be twenty games,and it is dishonored. Dishonored too.

(44:58):
All of the Dooms except Doom twentysixteen, which I don't know if that's
because that's already on game Pass orthey're just gonna do that one later.
Not sure, but yeah, Doomone, two, three sixty four,
an Eternal are all going to beup there. Moro Wind, Oblivion and
Skyron Special Edition Elder Scrolls Online.I just just want to if it Moro

(45:20):
Wind the three sixty Moro Wind ElderScrolls three, Moro Wind, Okay,
I don't know if there's like aspecial edition that was made either for Xbox
One. I certainly don't think therewas a series. I don't think there
was, and It's worth noting thatsome of these are going to be cloud
only, like, for instance,Elder Scrolls Online is not is going to
be cloud and console. It soundslike, okay, and is this is

(45:40):
this starting to have a tough timeseparating game pass Xbox and game pass Console.
So all of these are marked asto whether they are console, PC
or cloud or all of the above, and in almost all cases it's actually
console, PC and cloud. Afew of these are specifically cloud and console

(46:02):
or or or like Console PC isOblivion, there's no cloud version of that.
There is a cloud. There isno PC version of Elder Scrolls Online
going to game Pass, but thecloud and console versions will be. I'm
getting a correction from the chat hereO g Xbox on the morrow when not
even at three six? Yeah okayboy time huh time yeah uh. Further

(46:23):
along Evil Within, fall Out four, fall Out seventy six, fall Out
New Vegas, which is console onlyfor game pass pray rage two uh,
and then all the recent Wolfinstein's NewOrder, Old Blood, Young Blood.
That's a lot of there, that'sbut pretty much their entire recent library large

(46:47):
so so no rage or did yousay rage? No Rage two? Okay,
yeah, no Evil within two thoughagain that could also already be on
on game Pass. I don't know, I want to say it might be,
but yeah, yeah, okay,interesting. Hey if you're if you're
on game Pass, boy, howdy. Yeah. I mean, I feel

(47:07):
like a lot of this deal wasdone specifically to bolster game Pass going forward.
Like as much as exclusives matter,and Microsoft certainly needs them, you
know, they're all in on gamePass at this point. They want that
to be the premier thing people cometo Xbox stuff for. And yeah,
I mean, those are all biggames and if you haven't played any of
those, that's a great way todo it. Potentially really tough too to

(47:34):
make the argument that you do notneed game Pass or because I mean,
just the value proposition is now itis just so yeah, compelling, to
the point where now I'm starting towonder if they're going to course correct somewhere
down the road and realizing they arerealized they are maybe in a way kind
of over delivering for what it actuallycosts. And I worry. I think
it's going to continue to go upin price. Yeah, at some point,

(47:55):
it will, certainly, I meanI think it is. I think
it's probably the opposition now of likedo you go into the Xbox family because
of game paths? I mean,if you have an Xbox or that equist,
then you should probably have game Pass. But like, yeah, I
think it's what this is. Thisis hyperbole, and I apologize, but

(48:15):
it sometimes feels like what people whohave press accounts, uh sound like when
you just go in and you're justlike, oh, just all of these
games are here to play to fund, They're all just here ready for me.
Oh delicious, what's what's here today? Yeah? I mean to tell
what accent you're doing. It's likesomewhere between British and mid Atlantic. I

(48:37):
can't quite tell. That's that's mytraditional games reviewer with the press press pass
with a monocle. Yeah, thecheese and wine press. So it's uh,
I go into game Pass every oncein a while and I see a
bunch of stuff, but I neverdownload it. But do you have the
EA stuff in there as well?Now? Yeah, I mean, come
on, yeah, this is weare there. We're not headed there,

(48:59):
it's here. So I think I'mcurious to see the numbers on it,
especially for some of these older games. The cost benefit analysis some of the
new stuff. Also, So here'swhat I'll say, armchair armchair game vet,
Viney Caravella. Here just the gonnatell you how this I think this
works. So new games mostly sellDLC cosmetics and a lot of other buying

(49:22):
things to get you on these seasonpasses. In the one have you so,
I suspect there's some money. Youknow, you get compensated, I
hope, right for being on gamepass if your developer, but I think
you get you're looking for a longgame on this stuff, right, you
want to sell the cosmetics and DLCwhatever. I don't know how it works
strictly for single player narrative games wherethere's no cosmetic or buy it older games,

(49:45):
I wonder if you use those.I wonder you know there's money changing
hands. Obviously in this one whereBetheza is now owned by Microsoft, there
was a dump truck of money Ichanged hands. But I wonder if some
of that leads into hey never playedSkyrim, Hey, this is a great
chance to play, and when thenext one comes out, you're hooked,
right, you know you're you're inthe system. I don't know. I

(50:06):
just wanted to financials for Microsoft,the financials for developers. How that's all,
and then you know, for theconsumers, it seems like a pretty
good deal. My answer to allthat is yes, yeah, my understanding
limited. I mean, I've nevergotten exact numbers from anyone, but my
understanding is that a lot of theupfront money that developers are getting from being
on game Pass is pretty significant,and it is enough to potentially offset some

(50:29):
of the lost sales they might havegotten otherwise. I don't know exact numbers,
but I haven't heard anyone necessarily complainabout what the upfront money was compared
to what they might have potentially madeotherwise on the dev side. On the
dev side, I have no ideawhat Microsoft's like long term, like like
what they are making versus like whatthey are investing. But you know,

(50:50):
from the dev side, it seemslike there have been too many complaints that
I've heard. Yeah, I mean, if I mean, it certainly feels
like they are happy to be inthe red for a little bit, playing
the long game. Yeah. Thethe idea that you can collect, how
much does game Pass a month?Five bucks? Pen bucks? I think

(51:10):
it depends on you. If yougot fifteen for Ultimate or something like that,
whatever it is, you're you're mostand I also am curious about the
attach rate for Game Pass per Xboxconsole, But like, that's the idea,
is right, Is you get peopleplaying a game that they maybe normally
would not have been interested in,and now they have access to it,

(51:32):
and then they like it, andthen they buy it when it comes the
new one comes out. Are theybuy it when the new come one comes
out when it cycles out of gamePass? Maybe they're picking up a better
edition of it, They're buying theremaster of it when that happens eventually in
five years, are buying all theDLC? Also, are you telling your
friends now that, like, hey, I'm on, I'm in the Xbox

(51:52):
family. Get in the Xbox familyso we can play Deep Rock Galactic together,
right? Because that has occurred tome to tell my whole family,
like, hey, I really wantto play Deep Rock with you guys.
You don't have the PC is probablynot going to be the thing, but
if you can get if you guysgot an Xbox, even the Sea,
then we can play someone someone.This is not we are no longer experimenting

(52:15):
here. The math has been done, right, the models have been simulated.
I don't know. I think there'sa bet that game Pass is pretty
much okay in terms of profitability,just because of the idea. It's the
thing, it's like, no one'sever going to play everything. But it's

(52:36):
the like you said that over delivery, the idea that you are losing out
if you are not a subscriber,which I think is true. So I
haven't looked recently at the tears theyhave, but maybe the chat chat knows
as well. The they still offerjust the gold, right, you can
just still get gold, and youcan and you can get game passed separate

(52:58):
and then you can still get themcombo. Yeah, I see what that
is the case. That's not goingto be the case for I want to
say. I remember them saying yeah, okay, and then the question was
are they're going to roll in thestreaming stuff at some point? Right the
what is that called the cloud?Yeah? Wait, what's the name of
their I think it's just x Ithink it's Xbox Cloud cloud Services. I
think it's just cloud games or something. So I think PS plus is still

(53:21):
pretty good value and the games theyhave on there, I think it is
they just can't compete with the volumenow, and I think this volume what's
a ps now is Yeah, Ihave not tried that. I am.
My kid is a big time psNOW advocate. Okay, just him.

(53:42):
Got play those old lego legacy games. I think Nintendo's classics stuff. I
haven't been in there in ages.They're still adding stuff to it. I
bet, I bet you that libraryis pretty pretty nasty at this point.
But I never go in there.Yeah, I never go anyway, interesting
interesting stuff. It's for me.It feels like it puts the with that

(54:07):
on the with the PC game Passand the Ultimate Game Pass, with the
combo PC and Xbox. It's apretty cool like ecosystem to be in right
now. Yeah, if you havea fully capable PC and you have an
Xbox and be the ability to fora lot of games jump back and forth.
A lot of day one stuff comingto game Pass from inside Microsoft,

(54:30):
and Microsoft really dumping money into firstparty development by acquiring first party developers,
by making these people first party developers. It's really interesting to see what they're
doing in that space. It's changinga little bit of how I think about
games, where I mostly was buyingstuff on PC, to say, hey,
this is where this is where thebulk of my library is always going

(54:52):
to be on my PC of gamesI own now game Pass obviously you don't
own those games, so that willremain the case. But you know,
I'll check game Pass a lot oftimes first to see if it's on there,
because hey, I don't know ifI'm going to commit to this game.
I'm gonna try it out and thenand then sometimes I will also just
go to the PC and be like, ah, a couple times a month,

(55:14):
I'm surprised at what is day anddate on game Pass. So that
all makes that I still primarily primarilylook on my PlayStation first on the console
side, uh, and then butI always have to remind myself, like
game Pass might have this, Ishould go, yeah, I should go
look something that that changed in thelast year where it's like, oh that

(55:37):
this is now a place you cancheck too. Yeah, yeah, that's
okay. So Bethesda do they saywhen that stuff is hitten on therow Pass
tomorrow tomorrow? Okay, dang Alex, what else is going on? Uh?
So this will be relevant to yourguys' interest roadblocks. You guys heard
about this here about these roadblocks,the raw blocks. Yeah, I hear

(55:58):
about it too much. Perhaps well, now you can buy some robe stocks.
Row Blocks is now being publicly tradedon the damn stock market and on
the damn stock market, and itsvaluation is high. It came out of
forty eight or something, didn't itwell, so it ended the day trading
it just under seventy dollars, whichgive it a valuation about forty five billion.

(56:24):
Okay, alright, this story hereon Kataku healthfully points out is approximately
six Bethesda's it's a popular. It'sa very popular. It's very yes,
it is. How do you isit a game or is it a platform?
Okay, so it's like it's isit like a Fortnite situation where it's

(56:45):
like there is a base game inthere that everyone feasibly is playing and then
they are added. I don't thinkso the way the way I understand it.
When it when it boots up,then I've booted it up a bunch
because now I password and protect thatship because I'm done better. I'm done
paying for blue acorns. I'm notgonna buy roadblocks or whatever the fuck that
currency is called by the stock Yeahyeah, well yeah, anyway, uh,

(57:08):
and you open it up and it'slike it's just like almost like a
store appearance and you play. They'reall free of the games, but I
think within each game there's a microeconomy in the game. Uh you know,
he's obsessed with this one where youhave find these eggs and you can
pay to not have to wait mindmore eggs. Roadblocks. We we we

(57:34):
dabbled and we got out, andwe got dabbled and got out. Yeah,
I'll say this. Uh So alot of people were asking me.
I tweeted about him complaining about agarbage game the other day, and this
was the game he was complaining aboutblocks he could not get rid of,
like a screen he was playing thegame, whatever, the screen of platforms

(57:55):
you're playing on. I've heard I'veheard the Xbox version of Roadblocks not the
place to be. It's a allright, why what is it? PC
the place to be? Or Ithink I think mobile or iPad or yeah,
tablet device but yeah, I don'tknow, or laptop, like I
know, we talked about this directlybefore, but like that game, like

(58:16):
the game is not very polished becausethey're all these little individually developed things,
but it nevertheless, it's popular popular. I am not a fan of Roadblocks.
I when I when I heard aboutthis, I think Backlard, you
were the first one to tell methat, Hey, did you know Rollblocks
has going public? I was like, Uh, could I shave off like

(58:38):
a hundred bucks or something and justgo buy a Rollblocks stock? Should I
not buy? Should I not buythat next master Peace Transformer? And then
I spent the day at the doctorsand was like came back and was like,
oh, what happened there? AndI think you were like, yeah,
no, it did. It wentpublic. Yeah, that's that feeling

(58:59):
passed. I started at forty fiveand then like within ten minutes it had
shot up to like sixty five.And now it's hanging out around because some
of the initial valuations they were apparentlyhaving for this thing was like, oh,
this will be worth about four billion, you know, five billion whatever,
and then it's just like, howabout forty five? Yeah? My
I. When I was in thecar, we're driving the doctor, my

(59:21):
I was like, Hey, didyou know Roadblocks? Is uh this going
on at PO? She's like,don't, don't don't support that game.
It said, all right, Imean listen a lot of people really like
it. I understand. The firstgame to actually make me feel aged yeah.
You know, if you've accomplished onething Roadblocks, you've accomplished that.

(59:45):
I mean. But at the sametime, like my kid does realize like,
oh, this isn't the best.Like there's motherfucking Rocket League that I've
been doing, and that's that's prettypolished and great. We played, you
know, still play a lot ofSwitch and he's always like, oh,
this is this game's just better,isn't it. Yeah it is. I
think it is. I think itis. I also wonder like is it

(01:00:09):
peaked? I don't know, Idon't know. Look this and now,
but now you have an existence wherelike the stock price of it is not
necessarily related to yeah, right,there's wells artificial value these things are you
know, it's perceived value, right, So like yeah, I don't know,

(01:00:30):
I say, that's a very profitablething. Is everyone's gonna cut my
is it peaked? Out of contactand play it when we all attend like
the roll Blocks and uh ceremony intwenty years because they own New Jersey,
right, they're one of the fourowns everything, and yeah, exact space
mining fucking resources so they can makemore words. They've built the Dicen sphere,

(01:00:53):
so they can nft their roll blocksitems and the Dyson sphere is generating.
I'm just mining on the ethereum chain. Let's get a different story,
because it's depressing me. What's up? Yeah, okay, yeah's it's not
depressing. It's a pressing No,I understand where you're getting at, and
you're right, yeah, all right, Well here's a less depressing thing.
Here's here's the thing that is notas sad. This is maybe gonna make

(01:01:14):
some people happy. Uh so,uh, there's a new teenagement in Turtles.
Yeah, teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles gamecoming out. Oh yeah, the
heroes have the classics Tredders getting hisrevenge apparently, so this time this game
is made by some of the folksthat made the Scott Pilgrim game and also

(01:01:36):
made the extremely well regarded teenaget inTurtles game for game Boy Advance in two
thousand and seven, which I neverplayed, but I've heard people say nice
things about for years. Wait awhole lot of second. Yeah, you're
right, we were on game BoyAdvance in two thousand and seven. Is
that is that when we were wewere still game Boy Advancing in two thousand

(01:01:58):
and seven. That seems that doesseem late, You're right, that's that's
DS was out by then. No, it was, yeah, no too
that I'm looking at the story TMNT, the acclaimed two thousand and seven broller
for Game Boy Advance. You knowwhat, though, The thing is that
might have been that period where theywere still releasing some GBA stuff. Yeah,
but DS had like it existed andwas out. That feels late,

(01:02:20):
okay either way, yeah, eitherway, it is apparently a GBA game,
but nonetheless, so this is someof the folks that worked on that
stuff. It is being published bydot emu, dot emu, I don't
know what the hell that publisher iscalled. And the trailer they put out
for this one, it shows afairly you know, I'm not gonna say
standard, but it looks like,you know, kind of the in the

(01:02:42):
vein of the teen Turtles arcade games. This is supposed to be, you
know, in that lineage of likethe Turtles in Time, original Teenageing New
Turtles arcade game, and it hada theme song sung by Mike fucking Patton.
Really yes, Mike Patton sings TheTeenage New Turtles. Was trailer faithough
more of mister Bungle of Phantom ofFame. I need to hear this?

(01:03:05):
Does you need to hear this?Does it sound like is he what's Mike
Patton? Are we getting? Weget like, uh, you know they're
like mister Bungle. It's closer tothat. Here's the thing. I recognized
him immediately before I saw someone saythat's my play. I can try and
pause. I tweeted, there's Ihave. The link is on my twitter

(01:03:28):
feed if you want to pull upthat trailer. Is it? A lot
of people are talking shit that theylike that they really fucked up the original
theme. I mean, here's thething, it's just a remake. Like
all I got at it. AllI did was post it. I didn't
even make a comment on the qualityof it. And there were already a
handful of completely insufferable fucking nerds inmy mentions, being like they ruined the

(01:03:49):
melody of this. Uh, youknow, the sanctity of the song is
ruined. And it's just like,Okay, if these are the people this
is pissing off, then they dida great job on this, and like,
why is that. I'm gonna tryand play it, Okay, I'm
gonna get a try. Hopefully thiscomes please please do it because I'd love
to hear it for the podcast.People's it's just the st right, it's

(01:04:10):
just the trailer here it is.Yeah you hear that? Ar? I
mean keep going? Do you thinkthat was just the snippet? That was
barely it? Man? It stoppedthe patriotoad because there's an ad of course,
of course right here you got charI like you to deal with the

(01:04:45):
drum then, man, honestly,just whish. What the fuck are people
complaining them? Me? I dolike this? Okay, this is me.

(01:05:28):
This is this is totally me grabbingthe guitar and asking my kids what
song I should play and then lookingup on like tab Crawler, a song
I've never heard before, and beinglike, okay, I've got the chord
progression here. I don't really knowhow this song goes with the melody or
anything like that, but let's giveit a shot. You know, it's
a teenage mutant ninja turtles. Thisis done? What the word say?

(01:05:51):
Yeah, it's that's hilarious. It'sdelightful, like what Kid's fight? It's
a goofy spin on it? Whynot? I don't know. I think
if you are, if you aredesperately protecting the sanctity of the Teen Union
Hurtles themes you maybe need to reevaliatesome things about your life. I want
I want Mike Patton to reimagine allof my childhood cartoons songs, but only

(01:06:12):
by somebody sending him a tab andthe lyrics and not the actual music or
the notes that he should be singing. I think you should send him exactly
one episode of any given cartoon,but it's never the one that establishes the
characters, so he has no ideawhat's going on, no idea. I
just be like, hey, uh, try try and try and try and

(01:06:33):
do this Gi Joe thing if youcan Gi Joe originary. Oh god,
they got holograms and ship all right, I'll figure this out. So they
like human like cats, all right? I mean Thunder Thunder Thunder thundercart I

(01:06:53):
liked it. I enjoyed it.Yeah, I think that's delightful. Anyway.
The game looks look, it's gota nice look to it. I
think it'll be hopefully. I loveit. I think art looks really really
cool. I think it's uh,I don't know. I am tough to
get upset about anything. I'm pickingup what they're putting down, I am
picking it up and I am loadingit up, and uh man, I'm

(01:07:13):
excited to play this game. Yeah, they even do that cool throw the
enemy back at yet the screen bitthey have are they getting the I didn't
watch the rest of this obviously,but is there like it's a time power.
Sure, there's not a lot ofgame footage in there, like a
lot of it is just animated cinematic, and then there's like a little bit

(01:07:36):
of footage at the end. Butyou know, it's it's it's it seems
like all the main characters are goingto be there, all right, So
what is the what's the date onthis? I'm not sure there is one
yet. I think they are targetingthis year, but I'm not sure there
is a there is a full releasedate for it yet. They just announced
it. Okay, I like whatit's. You know, it's just got

(01:07:57):
a cool look, looks like it'sand it looks like but it's also like
it it is. It is astrange kind of like refinement of that pixelated
turtle thing that just looks so dope. Yeah, Like, there's two ways
I would be fine with them goingif they did a full cell animated look
that was not, you know,pixelated at all, or if they just
did a cleaner version of the pixelatedlook, and that's the one they seem

(01:08:20):
to go with, which I'm totallyfine with. They're like, they're playfully
exaggerated. It's just fun. TheLeo's swords here, Leonardo swords were big.
They are they are. I justtweeted they are at least five feet
long, like he could prop himselfup on stilts with them. I feel

(01:08:41):
like they seem they seem large andpen charge. He's got some katanas,
man. I don't know how heputs those on his back and isn't just
like stuck in the ground and justlike like dragon sparks behind a little helpier
guys. Yeah, I've done that. Pop up my swords away again and
I stuck myself myself to the road. Goofball, Leonardo. No, they

(01:09:06):
need to be bigger than Donna Tello'sstaff. I'm the leaders the dude.
The best was the phantom range thateveryone thought Donna Tello had with that boast
that you have the range he's got, he could reach across the screen with
that. You can hit backs forStockman from the other end of the map.
My kid's gonna freaking you know,it's great. Here's the thing right

(01:09:28):
that Ninja Turtles are like. Ijust like the fact that this will probably
be a couple of hours, youknow, maybe sink your teeth into it
a little bit. I don't knowthat. If you got like, if
it's got like a Streets of Ragefour level of length to it, I'm
totally fine with that. Also thatlevel of balancing where it is clearly not
an arcade game. It is agame made for people to play at home
and not just siphon your quarters.That would also be great. Yep,

(01:09:51):
yep, yep. Fun. Yeah, okay, yeah, anything else,
Yeah, one more quick thing here, U, this is just a poor
one out. Notice here, Artifact. You remember that game, right,
the card battling game that that valvewas working on for a while and then
decided need to refresh almost immediately.Yes, they will no longer be refreshing

(01:10:14):
Artifact. What's happened? What's happeningto Artifact? Is it indeed an artifact?
It kind of, yes, Sothey were just never able to get
the player base to where they wantedit. It sounds like and at this
point they have decided that they areno longer going to be updating the game,
so you can download it now.There is Artifact Classic, and then

(01:10:35):
there is the Artifact two point zeroBeta, which is the version of the
game they were it was going tobe the updated version, I guess,
and they have renamed that Artifact Foundryand you can download those for free.
You can just play them for free, but there will be no more updates
and no more additions to them.There's an Artifact Classic, it's the version
that launched. I think that issome new Coke shit, yeah Coke.

(01:11:00):
That game never came out. Really, Yeah, how do you have a
classic? So we cameround twenty eighteen. I don't think anything is allowed to
be classic after three years, Like, that's not possible. That's a that's
a short turn around there. Okay, well you know, pour that one
out, and you know, Iassume that everyone that was working on that
will just be you know, refoldedinto other Valve projects, as is their
way. But nonetheless, you know, if you were one of the nineteen

(01:11:24):
people still playing Artifact, yeah youcan do it for free, I guess.
Yeah. Do you get anything forhaving put money into that game?
Or is it just it just getsreabsorbed into the machine. The satisfaction and
knowledge that you supported a game thatyou love. I love that, Yeah,
And it wasn't I thought I sawsomething about like foil cards or something.
Maybe I don't know. I don'tI don't know enough about Artifact,

(01:11:45):
Like I never played it. Thatwas around the time when I was really
trying to scrutinize my CCG usage andplaying, and I was like, I
need to get rid of the oneI'm playing a lot of now. I
don't need to add more into mylife. So that was kind of where
I went on it. Hearthstone's stillkicking around. Huh yep. I'm played
in two years and I could notfeel better about it. Very clean,

(01:12:06):
clean lifestyle. I put this storyin here because I, you know,
maybe some people will be affected,and I thought it was kind of a
sad story. I don't be affectedby it. Apparently, twenty five servers
were lost in a fire at adata center for Rust, affecting the game

(01:12:27):
Rust. No, I don't knowthat much about how Rust carries over data.
At first, I'll say nobody wasinjured, nobody was hurt, but
the servers went down and apparently thedata that was on them, and the
story I was reading over on Polygonsaid Rust has regular server wipes that happened
every month, so that so thatmitigates It's just here a mitigates how much

(01:12:49):
data could be lost from each server. But apparently there is going to be
some server information lost for folks thatare affected, and the data is not
going to be restored they once theyget those servers back up. So yeah,
fire over in the data center inStrasburg, Germany. Oh wait,

(01:13:09):
because I read about another data centerfire in France. So this is in
Germany, but this one's in Germany. Okay, So we had two different
major data center fires in Europe withinrelatively short amount of time. Oh.
I'm not trying to get conspiratorial here, I'm just saying, but apparently the
one that happened in France, abunch of like the cyber warfare division of

(01:13:30):
the French government, like a bunchof their ship got fucked up, so
like they don't they can't do workright now, they can't do their warfare,
the counter cyber warfare or I don'tknow what other hackers are employed by
the French government. Apparently they can'tdo their work. Right now because a
whole bunch of their ship got fuckedup. Oh boy, all right,
well, uh yeah, I meanthat sucks. That's probably a lot of

(01:13:55):
money. I assume they have insurance. I hope you had insurance, and
I'm glad nobody was sure. Yeah, anything else news fellas That's all I
got. Jeff, did you haveanything? Uh? There was this one
story that my my friends were thrownaround in a group chat about. It
was from the ringer about the pursuitof a PlayStation five. And I through

(01:14:18):
this in there thinking we could talkabout it for a set because I kind
of don't understand the point of it. Okay, what is it? It
was? It's a it's a kindof like an opinion piece almost about like
the rush too. I guess thesort of like takeaway is like the rush
to get a PS five and thethrill of the chase is better than the

(01:14:41):
console itself. I guess the takeawayfrom this I could see that because Yeah,
I mean, like we've been onrecord saying that these consoles as they
exist right now are not must ownsreally because there just isn't not any games
out for them. It is indetermined when a bunch more of those games
will be coming. We about afew, but like this year is probably

(01:15:01):
going to be relatively dry as faras major releases go. Uh So I
can kind of get that, butlike, so, what what does the
part you take umbradge with. Ijust sort of think it says a lot
of nothing. Uh, you know, because someone was like, uh in
my group, Chad was like,hey, well, I'm not I'm not
sure what is this guy trying tosay. And I skimmed through it and

(01:15:24):
I read it, and I waslike, well, it just seems like
he's saying that the thrill of thechase eclipses that of the value of actually
owning one of these things. Hetalks a little bit about like the scalping
issue and and and you know thatwhole sort of bought gate the nasty We're
not doing that anymore. Okay,that's not and no, because it's the

(01:15:44):
flippers done. Okay, there's nomore gates. There's no more gates and
all the flippings that are happening,and yeah, I mean, you know
it. To me, it's sortof just like, you know, I
think he tries to be a littlebit more philosophic go and sort of say
like, this is the gaming culture, this is what video games has done
to us. We've we try andturn everything into the gamification of everything.

(01:16:10):
I don't think that's maybe the case, but I don't know, Like I
still think there are many other wildthings kind of at play with like resource
uh, you know, shortages,you know, the the global supply chain
is still not what it was,And I feel like there is a there
are a lot of other contributing factorsto just what is going on. I

(01:16:33):
will say this, if you askedme in uh, you know, November,
if you'd be able to find aPS five by the start of spring,
I would have told you yes.And it does not seem like that's
going to be I will say itsounds like when people when they have been
popping up. I've heard in bothcases that it seems like they're available for
a little longer before they sell out. Like it's not the instantaneous like oh

(01:16:57):
yep, nope, the second thepage popped up, I couldn't add anything
to my cart, Like some peopleare getting in and it seems like,
and this is anecdotal, but likeit seems like there is a window and
that window is growing a bit bybits each time they do new drops.
But you know, nonetheless, thereare still probably a whole lot of bots
that are snagging these things. Andyeah, still, I mean, at

(01:17:18):
some point, you know, ona long enough timeline that you know,
starts to shrink into a tinier andtinier return in the market, I guess,
and then they'll move on to letthem in the next biggs, which
I'm inevitably with the graphics cards,I assume, Right, Yeah, I
just thought it was a little,I don't know, a little strange ish.

(01:17:41):
Yeah, I don't know, Idon't know. I don't have any
problem with someone expressing that notion.I think I think there is a degree
of that kind of sort of likesport fishing, tech lust kind of thing
going on where people are just youknow, they want to say they claim
their trophy or what have you.But yeah, but yeah, I agree,
like at this point, there's nothingelse to talk about with these systems
though, like really like that allthe only thing about them is that you
can't get them right. The well, the well is officially dried up,

(01:18:05):
and uh, you know that's aboutthis is the most we can mind out
of that completely void Uh, shaft. So I don't know what, do
you have an opinion, Vinny?No, Yeah, well we yeah,

(01:18:28):
I mean everything, A lot ofthings are in a great shortage right now,
right like GPU. Yeah, it'slike that. I like, well,
what's your direct question? My directon which part? Just what do
you think about all this? That'sall I'd like to hear from you on
on this kind of feel bad thatpeople can't get what they want, especially
on the you know, the thehoops you'd have to go. I would

(01:18:51):
not have a PS five or aSeries X if it were not for this
job. Yeah, right, andsame not. I was not going to
go through those hoops. I mean, you might have scored one. The
only reason I got mine is becauseI really fucking looked out and managed to
avoid most of the hoops. Soso I didn't have time to do the

(01:19:11):
hoops. I would not pay scalpfor prices for it, or I would
not pay secondary market prices for it, and I think I think it was.
But I also don't know if goingout of your way to get a
PS five or Series X right nowis worth it, given the games exclusive
to those systems. So but Ido feel that I do have that like

(01:19:33):
I want one, you know,like, hey, everybody's got one,
and if you feel it, SoI think that's I think it's tough.
And they're very expensive consoles, andhaving to jump through hoops just to put
down six hundred bucks on something isit's a tough one. Yeah, the
yeah, I mean the other sortof point of the piece is like the

(01:19:58):
this has created as subculture of peopleright where it's like, you know,
people who and I also think alot of it is due to the pandemic
too, where you people just areyou know, some people who can't afford
to do it are just home alot and able to kind of like you
know, turn uh, this sortof obsession into a possibly lucrative side hobby.

(01:20:24):
And I just think that there's alot of strange you know, not
strange, but they're you know,the byproduct of the current you know,
pandemic has led. To me,what the story of saying has led to
this sort of cultivating of people whoare like, yeah, like obsessively refreshing
and and and and the thrill creating. But that's kind of like that's not

(01:20:46):
a new culture, like that's existat any time there has been an online
launch of one of these kinds ofthings, and you know, like it's
just it just moves from device todevice depending on demand. We we got
we got a couple emails about this. I don't know if I took them.
I don't think I did, aboutlike what would you do if you
were selling something like this, Likewhat how would you put protections in place?

(01:21:06):
Or what would you do? Acouple of emails similar to that.
You know, I think buy limitson stuff are important, like if you're
if you're a retailer and you say, hey, you can only buy two
or I think I think for me, it's it's like those instant drops where
there's a rush to just get onthe site and the whole infrastructure breaks down.

(01:21:29):
It's too much. I don't knowit. But I also don't know
if the telegraphing when you're going toget them back in stock helps, because
you know, the whole Oh,I added this to my car. By
the time I got to check out, it was gone. But it does.
Yeah, it doesn't matter where youyou cannot prevent even if a retailer
gets a stock update. That's whatI'm saying, Like it's it's a whole

(01:21:49):
thing, and I don't want toget two in the weeds on this.
But it's happening across other things Icollect and I look for in ways that
I hadn't seen before from this year. There's a lot in the toy world
of retail of retailer exclusives now whereTarget, Amazon, Walmart, they're all
getting books. Yeah, this ishappening a lot where they're all getting in

(01:22:13):
on retailer exclusive stuff and those thingsare just and since I'm not going to
physical stores, those things are sellingout online immediately and just hitting the secondary
market immediately, and the infrastructure ofthose online sites can't handle that load a
lot of times. And you know, people are like and there's a whole
sub subculture of like, hey,my local Walmart has this, has this

(01:22:34):
thing, like everybody go here,like you can go pick this up,
And I can't play that game.One, you know, I'm not I'm
not gonna necessarily go to the localWalmart to get something like that for a
bunch of reasons. And two,I don't drive really Like, you know,
we have one car. I'm notgonna be like I gotta go borrow
the car and I'm gonna go driveso I can get this bumblebee which is

(01:22:55):
a Walmart exclusive because it might bein stock twenty miles away. Like that's
that stuff to me, Like oncollection stuff is really frustrating. And you
know, when you're talking about asix hundred dollars thing that you've probably come
to, you made your peace with, I'm going to spend this and then
spend months trying to get it's it'ssuper frustrating, and while other people are

(01:23:15):
talking about how much fun this thingis and the load times are so much
faster, and like, I justwant to get one. I it's it's
stuff that's I feel for it.I want to I want to circle back
quickly to this fire. I think, Alex, this is one and the
same. I think this was Ithink this is in France. I think
that Pobabgone article is actually wrong.Two server fires in the same week.

(01:23:39):
That seems a little wild. Yeah, they said the server was in the
site was in Germany. Unless I'mreally misreading something on both of these.
I think this is one of thesame thing. I just wanted to self
correct that, all right, uhand put that in there. Okay,
So no conspiracy, just a giantfire in one building that had a bunch
of times. It sounds it soundslike it's the OVH data center. I

(01:24:00):
went to a couple of other placesto go see what is going on here?
Once you said that seemed pretty weird. Yeah, all right, should
we take another quickie? And uhdo a quickie. We'll take a quick
break. I'm gonna refresh all mysights to see if they got the if
they see if Alita one came inat Target, so I can get that

(01:24:20):
transformer, and then we'll be We'llbe right back. Stay tuned, folks
while I get the music off here. Oh and we're back. Hello.

(01:24:45):
Hi, all right, everybody gotyour emails here? Hi, Hi,
Alex and Jeff, Hi got youremail. You're out. Did you figure
out how to do what make it, uh make it easier to buy PS
fives in the time? I did? I did. That's what I was
working on. But I have toget my NFT set up for it.
Uh, thank you. We're gonnagotta do some emails. You can send

(01:25:10):
them in too. Beastcasts at giantbomb dot com. That is beast cast
that giant bomb bet dot com.Beast cast at giant bomb dot com.
You can send in those emails thankseverybody for sending them in. I of
course forwarded all the emails. They'reappropriate places. I hope, Alex and
Jeff you are now further enlightened thanksto our kind listeners who sent us emails.

(01:25:35):
Forward it to you. M Y, let's start here at backlar.
Why don't you take this one fromTravis sure thing, Hi, beast friends.
I've recently decided to treat myself andreplace all my old underwear with fancy
comfortable underwear. God bless that's thething to do. What that's the thing

(01:25:57):
to do? Replace her underwear?Yeah? Let me finish uh comfortable on
were in front of those internet underwearcompanies. It's a small luxury I afforded
myself, and I'm loving the newlifestyle. What's a small luxury you have
and enjoy in your life? Oh? I'm not going to bring up the
thing. There'll be time to bringup the new thing in my life.

(01:26:21):
Sure, soldering on it. Youknow the thing you talked about, No,
with the water, Oh that's ayeah, don't bring it up here.
Somebody's paying for you to talk aboutthat. Yeah. But but but
I'm happy about it. We'll getYeah, we'll get to that the little

(01:26:43):
the little things. Yeah, Imeant, you know, I think certain
uh, you know, clothings dodo that. I feel like we don't
appreciate that sort of stuff. Wetake it maybe for granted, but we
just don't appreciate how much you likenew socks, new wonder things like that,
that your quality of life. Youknow, for a minimal investment,

(01:27:06):
the return on that is so advantageousto your personal well being. You could
spend a lot underwing you could,you could, but you don't have to.
You can get not that much money. You're gonna love the way you
feel. Yeah, you guarantee it. I feel like I've also replaced,

(01:27:27):
Like I've also replaced. Like thismaybe is a necessarily an affordable change,
but like you know, I forthe longest time, I was like wearing
glasses that were like a bothering mein in a dumb way, and you
know, I was like, youknow, what what am I doing?
Why am I doing? Why amI just like living my life with glasses
that are are silly and ridiculous thatbother me with this very specific a piece

(01:27:49):
of criticism got new glasses. Lifeis so much better now because I wear
glasses all day. You know,and this is an important thing that you
should take care of because it's ayou know, I feel like that's a
thing. Honestly, it really doescome back to the keyboard argument because the
keyboard you use so much you don'trealize it is such a it is such
a necessary tool that you're constantly on. I'm on my keyboard, I feel

(01:28:12):
like as much as my phone.So yeah, sure, sure on my
keyboard more than my phone. Butyes, yeah, we know that.
Okay, you have to go aroundadvertising. I love I bought I'm trying
to look for one if I haven'tdone here. I bought myself nice pencils.
Oh when I do the crossword puzzle? Would you get black wings?

(01:28:36):
I think it did. I waslooking for one. I'm in that scene
too. Don't worry about they areblack. Uh they don't have a racers
on the end. Pallominos. Yougets some palominos. They're they're Japanese.
They come in a little like boxthat's like a plastic box. They all
do Oh I would do they Okay, I was looking for him down here.

(01:28:58):
I kept them down here because theycome in like a box of like
it's like a freaking sugar box.You gotta keep it a humidifier of like,
oh you you know I gave youone of these two weeks ago.
Did you lose it? Yeah?Okay, and I'm gonna mark it down.
Slide went out, you know,like they were I really the quality
of pencil we were using from thekid's random pencils on the Crossroad puzzle on

(01:29:19):
the on the Sunday Times, it'sprinted on that magazine paper, it would
scratchy and it wasn't good. Andthese are buttersmith, these are these are
so nice, so nice. Ifeel like I was in I can't tell,
you know, because a couple ofyears ago, and you know,
this viney, I was very muchinto like a pen, like a found

(01:29:41):
paying guy, like nice pen,guy, Like get yourself a nice pen,
you know, one that really writes, you know it. I for
me, it was like you thethings you right, felt like they were
more important. You had to takemore pride, more more care, more
effort and time you know at thetime, but more effort. And you
know, I can't tell if thatwas like an explosion that also happened too,

(01:30:04):
where like there seemed to be anuptick and that kind of stuff.
But can't go wrong with a nicepencil or pen This is it's actually uh
Mitsubishi hi Uni uh is. Theis the pencil I got, okay,
and I put a lower racer onthe back of it. Yeah. I

(01:30:25):
when I looked up this Palaminos,I was like, no, it's a
really expensive pencil and they're like oddlysold out. Speaking of things being sold
out, Yeah, so that wasone. I'm trying to think of some
other stuff. Every once in awhile I will do the underwear sock refresh
yeah, and just say, oh, okay, it's time. I feel
like, at least once a yearyou need to take a long, hard
look at your drawer and be like, does any of this need to go?

(01:30:45):
Do I need to replace these?Yeah? I bought myself the appropriate
length of cables for my computer stuff. Oh yeah so that. Oh.
I bought myself the appropriate or ifnot longer than I need cables and cable
clips and spent the weekend just rearrangingall the cables to have a nice cable
thing. Spent spent a little moneythere, Alex, you got anything that

(01:31:06):
you're treating yourself with, I mean, other than the really obvious not small
luxury of this drum set that Ibought a few weeks ago. Yeah,
here, like mine are less practical, like I'm not, you know,
like like you said, I dothe occasional refresh of clothing stuff here and
there, but I don't really indulgetoo deeply in that stuff. It's just
sort of like, yeah, whatseems nice and comfortable, and usually that

(01:31:28):
ends up being right, So I'mfine with that. It's more just indulging
little collections and other things like youknow, I occasionally decides like that is
it's a good time to buy someexternal hard drives, and then I will
start reorganizing everything in my like organizationalstuff, which I'm terrible at in like
physical space, but love to doin digital space. I don't know what's
wrong with my brain that way,I don't know. I hate that.

(01:31:50):
Yeah, It's it's like I'm likeeverything in this room is a clutter fuck,
and but like on my computer,all I want to do is reorganize
all my files. You know,it's all indulged in that stuff. And
you know, like I, Ioccasionally will will dip in on the physical
media stuff, you know, moviesand things what have you. Every time
there's a Criterion sale. I'm like, oh, fifty percent off, that's

(01:32:12):
a good time to buy eight movies. So you know, that's that's kind
of where I like to indulge.See my My question for you guys is
do you do? Do you havelike a store online? It's sort of
like a branch off like do youis there a place where you comfort by
where you're just like, you knowwhat? I want to because this question
is more like treating yourself, butis there is there something I'll take it

(01:32:36):
a step further. Is there likea store or a place where you're just
like, well, I just wantto get more of that thing. I
really like Sephora, Like what amI? Yeah? Whoa, what's your
Sephora? You know what? I'mbuying tech stuff? I just throw myself
at best Buy. Oh okay,they usually have everything I'm looking for.

(01:33:00):
That's the thing is yea, andit's like it's not Amazon, so that's
usually. Yeah, I've got allthose little toy stores I buy stuff from,
Like yeah, like I'll be like, yeah, where's all I don't
I'm not giving it away for free? I think you can go. Uh.
I didn't realize you didn't want tohelp support that they're not some of

(01:33:20):
them are not small enough to uhtogether to get the endorsement. Yeah.
Yeah, there's uh the one Ilike, there's a big bad toy store
I got a lot of stuff from, but they're they're big, uh and
so so like when like, ohthat's pre order came in, that's great,
But there are a lot I don'tchase down the little little stuff too

(01:33:42):
much for like oh, buying directlyfrom Japan or imports from there, right,
But yeah, there's there's just likespecialty woodworking stuff. There's that Grammer
Sea in Brooklyn as a tools I'llget from them. Yeah, I don't
know, it's that's a little moreluxury sometimes that's something good expensive. Yeah,
oh without a doubt. I mean'tadvertising any of this is necessarily affordable

(01:34:05):
or cheap, but yeah, it'sthat gets more than like an extra five
foot on a USB cable. Youknow. I just feel like a lot
of people have comfort stores, youknow, where they're just like ah,
you know, like you be likeif you get the gift certificate and be
like I'll use this, yeah ofcourse, oh yeah, of course you
got me that. Sure. Mydad, it's like this car wash,

(01:34:26):
he really likes. It's just mydad's upset, you know. He's just
like, yeah, car's always gotto be clean. Love this. I
get this catalog from this place calledLee Valley, and it's one of these
catalogs that comes in, you know, because I bought stuff from there,
and buy stuff from there, andthey just send you the big old thick
Sears book thing. Yeah, andit's the one thing I'll sit and be
like, ah, oh no,not to be an htog No, not

(01:34:48):
that. No, that's up tooexpensive. All right, next email here,
let's do I'm gonna read these.There's some rapid fire questions, so
limber up, ready, Yeah,get ready, Y got rapid fire.
These they're coming in anonymously. Ready, yeah, three, two one.
You just answer like yes or no. There we go change your own flat

(01:35:08):
tire or call roadside service. Callroadside service. I'll change it, okay,
all right. I like it.It's not it's that I don't want
to. I think it depends onthe I know it's a rapid fire.
It also depends on the situation.Yeah, if it's like an exploded tire,
I'm not dealing with that. Yeah, all right, I think I
would be on the change it ifit's not dangerous. Listen to dot matrix

(01:35:31):
printers or a dial up modem connectingfor two hours straight. I'm gonna go
dot matrix printer, dot matrix yeah, dot matrix yeah. Picking up trash
on the shoulder of a highway witha possibility of getting hit by traffic,
or watching an all day marathon ofall Kardashian shows including reruns for one week.

(01:35:51):
I'll watch the show. I'm gonnaI'm gonna do the trash because then
I'm making a difference. Look,you're doing trash either way, okay,
but I'm doing terest That makes adifference. Damn it. Okay, uh
last, I still want to diefrom it, die from watching television.
Have a fucking corn area on yourcouch. You don't know all day marathons

(01:36:13):
for a week, having multiple peopleask you if have you seen the wire
for the ninety days straight, orstepping on a nail and possibly getting a
technis shot. I'll deal with thewire, and because I have immediate response,
it's like, yeah, but alsoyou should be watching homicide Life on
the Street instead, because it's thebetter show for ninety days straight. Yes,
well you could. I mean i'dsay they're like seven seasons of it.

(01:36:35):
I don't know. This is alittle scary to me as somebody who
has not seen the wire. SoI think I feel for this one of
like someone who's already had that happenedto me. I feel like, did
you seen the wire? Hey,I've seen the wire, and I've also
been asked if I've seen the wirefor ninety days straight. It was more
like three years straight. Yeah,I'll go. I'll still go with the

(01:36:56):
wire. All right, I'm gonnastep on a nail. This one's kind
of for. This one was relatedto It's something back talked about. But
Alex, why don't you take thisone? I think this is coming in
from Eric. I'm sorry if Ididn't put the name the right name here,
but let's just take this Eric.You might have wanted to remain anonymous
one as well. Here we go. Eric says your discussion on soldering reminded

(01:37:16):
me of soldering in middle in amiddle school science program. When I was
young and still today, I wouldabsent mindedly chew on things, typically things
like pencils, soda can tabs,miscellaneous plastic, et cetera. I remember
I distinctly remember chewing on a solderwire. It was weirdly satisfying to chew
pliable metal. I do not rememberif I if it was lead based solder?

(01:37:40):
Am I going to die? Thiswas probably fifteen to twenty years ago.
Do you also? Do you everhave sudden memories to make you go,
wow, that was really stupid?I was? Am I a moron?
Oh man, that's don't do that. That's not you don't want to
do that? Oh no, Imean I don't know all the signs,

(01:38:01):
but I want to say, yeah, like, I don't know. I
would imagine you're not ingesting an insaneamount of lead. I would because you
still would need to, I guess, swallow it for it to be really
I don't know. Lead absorbs intothe blood pretty not through through. I
don't know. I don't know thesign I don't want to get myself poisoning.

(01:38:25):
The entire booming boomer generation got fromleaded gasoline in the air. Yeah,
like I feel like they probably stillgot it worse. Should it not
be well, I don't know,Well, what about Like you know,
they say lead paint is bad enough, so maybe extended period, like if
you're in the room right for along time. Well also, that's they
say that because kids eat the chipsfrom the lead paint that fall and the

(01:38:47):
dust from lead paint. That's reallythe thing. Yeah, oh yeah,
totally. You never ships of courseeveryone did it. It is ingesting.
It's ingesting the dust and the chipsfrom the lead paint. Gotcha. Okay,
Well the chip and a dust aretwo very different dating experiences. I
want to say, But yes,I understand, so that on any of
it. Yeah, thing, Imean if fifteen twenty years ago, fifteen

(01:39:12):
twenty years ago, I would say, if you're in there, I don't
know where you are, Eric,if you're in the EU, you probably
might be safe because there was itmight have been not lead based soder.
If you're in the States, welove our lead. It's not good.
I'm gonna say it's not good.But I also i'm gonna say that if
it's like maybe a one time thingyou had, one time affair, I'm

(01:39:33):
gonna say, this is in school. It's in the middle school science program.
Somebody needs to come around to belike, yo, no, take
that, do not get that outof your mouth. That's why I think
this person might be in the USbecause of the if it's an American class
size, then they may not haveeven noticed. They were like fifty kids
in class, just making me uncomfortableto be quite honest, because I do.

(01:39:58):
I do sympathize with the with withthe fact that solder wire is like
fun and it's soft in a veryfun way. I know, yes,
yes, but I'm not putting itin my mouth. Yeah, uh,
all right. Yes. There areplenty of things when I was a kid
that I am like a boy,I'm really glad I made it through adolescence.

(01:40:20):
Yeah, Like why would you dojumping bikes off of like cliffs,
like you know, scaling stuff that'slike wow, if you fell, you'd
be dead, you know, makingit through dangerous uh places in the environment
as a kid that you're like,ah, that could have gone sideways in

(01:40:41):
one hundred and one different ways,but you slipped and you caught the thing
and didn't you know all of thatstuff, using tools, playing with things
you're not supposed to play with,sharp things, explode things, surviving your
pyro affair. There was there wasa point where we were lighting firecrackers and
throwing them at each other. That'syeah, light the m ad in your

(01:41:04):
hand, and then throw it likethat's don't just it was bad putting gasoline
in the super soaker. And thenis this is this a flamethrower? Who?
Look? Whoa look at whoa supersoker? Pretty quick? Wait a
minute, that's what happened to thesuper soaker And then you drop it and
then there's gasoline with fire on iton the ground in a canister. It's

(01:41:27):
so brain dead. Wait, Ilove it conceptually, but that is the
one you say, oh, that'sforbidden. We never act on that because
I mean, look, it's coolfor three five. Yeah. No,
Like there was a thing with likethe w D forty. You can make
a blow torque out of that,and that was a lot, you know.

(01:41:49):
I mean it could blow up thecan and that would be very bad
too. But the super sooker justseems dumb on a level that I'm surprised
by. So what happened was itwound up wound up actually lighting a little
bit of the patch of the groundon fire, you know, because it's
gasoline. And then uh and thenyou uh, you know, you might

(01:42:10):
want us to try to stomp thatout. So let's let's say you jump
in there while you're wearing your shortsand uh, that's also not smart.
Oh damn, I'm really happy tobe older now, Like, uh,
I'm really And I tell my wifesometimes and she's like, you know,
I'll be like not that stuff necessarily. We'll be like, hey, somebody

(01:42:33):
watching the kids, like I don'tcare, like they're just outside. I'm
like, did you not? Whatdid you do when you were a kid?
Sat on steps and read books?Like okay, I'm gonna go check
on the kids. Yeah. Yeah, so I was when I was in
camp. We would do this thetennis ball thing. I just saw someone
in the chat the tennis the flamingteams. Yea, yeah, we've all

(01:42:55):
tried that at least once because everyonewas obsessed with zippos when I was in
Uh, I was in summer camp, and you know you you know I
was. This is like the earlynineties, so like they sell anyone a
can of lighter fluid and shaving cream. At the time, it was like
fine, Like I was like whenwe getting lighter, some lighter fluid and
some condoms, razors, thanks,here you go here keep the You just

(01:43:18):
doused the tennis ball in that Zippolighter fluid and then you can play play.
Presumably they presumably they went out,but I mean it's still flaming to
this day. To this day,science you learn a lot, That's what
it is. You're just curious,you know, pre scientists. She's curious

(01:43:39):
how things burn? Ye turns outvery quickly, Yes, and dangerously.
Don't don't chew on avoid lead?Uh back? Why don't you read this
one from Kyle? Sure? Hey, guys, just curious. Is there
any difference between an icy and aslushy? On? Wife says the icy

(01:44:00):
is more ice and the slushy ismore liquid. Eh, you should have
said the slushy slushy. I don'tknow. I feel like they're the same
exact thing. They're kind of thething. It's slushy to me, is
is the thing you got from sevento eleven? Right? And then in
the thing and I see like asnow cone. It. I don't think

(01:44:26):
a snow cone is its own distinctconstruction, but I I would say,
if you were, if you hadto determine the difference, my guests would
be that the icy is a littlebit harder ice than the slushy, but
it's probably still pretty slushy, likein my mind a snow it's more snow
cone. It's like more you eatit, and and the slushi is more
you slurp it. What do youcall them? The like what do they
call otter pops? The good popthe like ice pop things. And in

(01:44:49):
the plastic that you snipped the topoff thing? Did you not call those
are? No? Those were justlike you know, there were you mean
the rainbow colored ones. Yeah,they're coming like that's packed. They're all
like and you bite the tops likesugar water, sugar water, I don't
know. And then there's Italian ice, which is the little cup with the
little paddle, paddle, a littlehit, the little paddle, some sort

(01:45:15):
of vessel for your for your lemonconcoction. There can we put in this
thing? I got a bunch ofwood, jump them up? No,
it wasn't, Marito. It's like, Frank, how do we make this
thing more exotic? What Italian is? Put a wood in there, all
right, not plastic. Then cutit into something resembling a spoon, a
little paddle. It's like it's probablythe leftover cut out the negative space from

(01:45:38):
something else. And somebody's like,what I got? I got a million
of these little things. When wecut the when we cut the soup bowls
or whatever, I got a millionof these little things. You know,
you could probably eat ice cream withthat. You could probably sell that to
a kid and eat ice cream withthose done, cover them and solder.
They'll love it. I'm pretty preciousabout a very specific uh, lemon ice

(01:45:59):
spot in Corona, Queens Are youfamiliar, Alex. I don't live near
Corona, but I've had lemon icein the general queens Boro. So yeah,
I mean lemon ice as good ashell. Man the lemon ice King
of Corona for Maybe they want towork on that entitle now, I'm well,

(01:46:21):
it's they've they're an institution. They'vebeen there for like one hundred years.
So it is coronavirus at this point. It's it. It didn't take
long, but it is now aninstitution. They got to rename. They
got to rename all that ship.I guess. So, I guess you're
the fucking the town of Corona insouthern California, all that stuff, all
of queens All right, we gotone more here, we got one more

(01:46:45):
here, one more here, wegot one more here, and one more
here. Who wants this one?Let's see we got I'm gonna say,
Alex, why don't you take thisone from Okay Burtons? As in a
few weeks I will be I'll behitting my one year mark where I've worked
from home because of COVID. Atthis point, I'm fairly confident I'll be

(01:47:08):
able to pivot into a permanent workfrom home role. As a result,
my wife and I are looking atbuying a house that's not within a daily
commuting range of my office. Turnsout homes are way cheaper when they aren't
near a big metro area. Myquestion is, if you have the opportunity
to find a new place to livethat did not require you commuting to an
office, what would be your checklistif things a city would need in order
to move there. My wife andI don't have kids, so our list

(01:47:30):
might be a bit different than Jeffand Vinny's. Oh man, just just
just go find space somewhere and livethere. Pooh, All right, I'm
gonna say it's it's more complicated thanthat. So can we remove some complications
for the sake of this thought experiment? Can we remove being close to family?

(01:47:53):
Let's just say yes, who wantsto do that? Okay, so
we're gonna remove being close to family. I'm thinking like, I'm thinking,
like I get a place. Igot a place where I don't see another
human being until I want to.I get a place where I could walk
outside and just scream, be nakedand just scream nobody, but God cares.

(01:48:14):
I mean your family, they stillhave to see it. I mean,
I realized that's appealing to some people, but like there is something also
a bit terrifying of like not beingclose to anyone or anything. Okay,
yeah, and then it's also walkingdistance to a movie theater. I don't
know, but like yeah, butlike no I want to, I don't.
I wanna. Sometimes I frame myhouse where I'm looking at my window.

(01:48:34):
I'm like, I'm in I'm insuburbs. I am close to my
neighbors. Sometimes I look out mywindow and trying to frame my view so
that I can't see my neighbor's housein a way that's like ah, all
all alone. Not that I don'tlike my neighbors, but like a look
at this beautiful day outside, becausehere, you know, you justin.

(01:48:56):
No, I don't know. Ionce looked up a house and made that
was on an island when I wasdoing my fantasy buying thing of like,
oh, they could buy a placeon an island. It's only seventeen point
two million dollars Like at this,Jess, Wow, it's amazing. It's
got the schools, it's got ahouse on the inside of it. Yeah.

(01:49:16):
I don't know, I I like, but that being said, I
love New York City. Yeah,like I love New York City. I
think my ideal is buy a housesomewhere in the in the sticks or something
and and and have a small likeone bedroom apartment or studio apartment in New
York City. So okay, sure, yeah, we all have that vacation

(01:49:38):
care. Yeah, this is afantasy. It's a fantasy. Like,
hey, you can question ask isthere reliving in fantasy world? Because the
world looks shit? So let's enjoythe fantasy. It's not gonna be in
Midtown. It's gonna be like Ithink you can. You can do that,

(01:49:58):
especially near New York work, Likeyou can be in as long as
you're an hour away. That's likemy threshold, Like I don't want to
be further away than an hour awayfrom the city. You can get that,
you can get that place. Youcan get that place shower away on
a train or something. Figure itout fantasy, right you still Connecticut?

(01:50:19):
Yeah? Or I mean you coulddo it in southern New York. You
could do it in northwestern New Jersey. Like, how about international? Would
you would any of you like middletwo? Yeah? I think so,
man, just by get a littlevilla Italy. I think about Italy more
than any other country, like Ijust because I when I was there in

(01:50:44):
twenty sixteen, I again, itwas a very uh, you know,
it was very like what's the wordI'm looking for. I wants a gluttonous
but it was a very like,oh like hedonistic, like you like.
But I love that place in away that I've never been to another country
where I'm like, I like,that's the first place I want to go
back to for sure. The twoplaces I can say that about that I've

(01:51:08):
been to were Kyoto and Prague.Those were two cities that I ended up
like, I knew I was goingto like them, but I ended up
loving them the time I was there. But you know, the odds of
me moving to a foreign country anytimesoon are not very high. I want
to go to Japan, Yeah,Denmark, yeah, yeah, Norway,
I don't know. Norway, thewilds of Canada, I don't know.

(01:51:30):
But I will say the one thingthat maybe is my main contingency for all
of this is that New York hascompletely spoiled me on food. Not that
there are not other great food citiesin America, there are plenty of them,
but the sheer variety here in termsof just like immigrant cultures and the
way they're all kind of mashed togetherin different neighborhoods, and the food that

(01:51:53):
that produces is unbelievable. And soI think my only real like this is
a must wherever I go is thatthere needs to be at least a little
bit of an immigrant food culture.Wherever I go. There needs to be
some variety. It can't just bea town that's like, yeah, we've
got foreign food, We've got oneChinese restaurant. It's like, no,
that's not enough. That's not that, it's not enough. Yeah. So,

(01:52:17):
I mean I had maybe some ofthe best pizza I've ever had in
my life in Kyoto. So theyactually do have I think a pretty diverse
food culture there. To answer thisquestion, maybe a little bit more of
focus and specifically, I think forme, I would need like part like
good parks kind of situation. Forme, I just always like to go

(01:52:39):
to a park to just kind ofunwind and have a public space, or
like I got during the pandemic,I went on like dozens of hikes,
and I just found that to beso enjoyable. It's so simple yet enjoyable.
I don't know why. It's becauseit's enjoyable. It's beautiful. California,
or at least specifically of the SanFrancisco Bay Area, has a lot

(01:53:00):
of you know, Californians can't stoptalking about fucking hiking. It's it's it's
for a lot of for a lotof things there they take care of they
had been I don't know what thestate of it is, had been taken
care of their their green spaces prettywell. Yeah, I'm I'm you know,
I will say I am. Iam very impressed with New Jersey's parks
where we are viny or maybe furtherwhere I am, but uh and and

(01:53:25):
like for me, what I wantedwas like a main drag like I wanted
not a when I say that,like the main street, I want like
a main strip and where I am, I'm a mile away from that,
and I love I have a walkableone. It's where you have it,
kids, taekwondo is, It's whereall this stuff is. It's like,
you know, hey, it's wherethe local shop, hardware shop is.

(01:53:46):
You know, I like, Ilike the local shops. You know,
I don't want to And this isa problem if I move out somewhere probably
you know, isolated. I probablywant about a strip mall right for for
stuff at some point, and Ihaven't been to them all in a long
time. And I live in NewJersey and that's kind of nice. I
think the I don't like hot weather, so I'm like, yeah, so

(01:54:13):
I would much rather be mired incold weather than have to exist in any
kind of desert weather at all.Like I'll exempt I'll exist in gloomy,
damp weather. I'll suffer that morethan i'll suffer like hot humid uh like
Florida Georgia weather. Yes, uh, I'll take a I'll take a you
know, Northern Europe versus like youknow, Southeast Asia, probably just because

(01:54:36):
it's like I just think I don'thave the body but my body type is
just like I'm sweating constantly. Yeah, quite literally. The only thing that
would keep me from living in NewOrleans, one of my favorite cities in
the world, is just the summersthere. I could not handle it.
No, chan They're insufferable. It'sit's I lived in Virginia, which is

(01:54:58):
not as bad even as like Louisianain the southern Southern States, but like
those summers, man, holy shit, yeah, yeah, it's I'd rather
be I'd rather be in Las Vegasin August than Florida, Florida. I'd
rather be damned than It's not it'snot specifically the desert, You're right in
general, Vegas in particular, thesheer, concrete nothingness of Yeah, I'm

(01:55:24):
not talking about being in the middleof the strip. There's parts of Vegas
that are not because there's no partof Vegas that does not smell faintly of
cigarette smoke wherever you go. I'msaying, like, man, you know
when I because when I go downthere in the winter to Florida, you
know, even you get a daywhere it's like if they were at seventy
and then you get day where it'slike ninety three. In the huge It's
crazy to me that people are like, yeah, this is I did it

(01:55:46):
I got here and not a nota square centimeter of my skin is not
dripping wet. It is mind blowingto me. So I've only been to
Japan in the summer for tgs andstuff like that. Is it Are there
parts of Japan that get a littlemore that don't get that really rough,
humid summer. I mean there's Iknow the Japan is mountainous and has cooler

(01:56:08):
places, but we find a hoteverywhere. But I think like the first
northern part of the country maybe doesn'tget it quite as bad. I don't
know, I haven't been there placesI ban Or to Tokyo and Kyoto,
and like that was at the veryend of summer. That was like beginning
of September, and the first Igot a humid summer. The first couple
of days were that, and thenafter that it got very temperate and nice.

(01:56:30):
So I got to experience a littlebit of the oh this sucks and
the oh, this is actually verynice. I think I've told this story
before, but there we had wehad these crates full of all of our
camera gear that came off the plane, and somebody opened them up outside while
we were to check everything. Whilewe were waiting for for TJS while we
were waiting for our cab or whatever, and opened it up and you saw

(01:56:53):
cold air just escape and everything immediatelygot drenched. Everything was just wet immediately,
and we're like, ah, it'sgood, don't I don't know.
I forget what you're supposed to dohere. Don't close it or close now
that all these lenses gets like becauseyou know, you don't want the inside
of the lens to get fogged up, because then it's it's bad news.
Like I don't forget what the thingis, like, let him dry out

(01:57:15):
or don't let him dry out.I just throw it away. Just forget
this. Ever happened the air airplanelost it. Anyway, that's gonna do
it. I think I want tosay Jerseys now subtropical. Didn't that happen?
I think they got reclassified after hiswinter. It's nice out today,
I don't. I'm telling you,I think we're due for one more snowstorm.

(01:57:39):
Lying I wouldn't doubt I like it. It's not I'm not just colder.
But I don't think it's gonna beanother snowstorm. I hope not another
snowstorm. We're near getting dumped onin like Colorado. Now, yeah,
I mean they got snow there.I have to that's your weather for it

(01:58:01):
for for this Thursday. Mark,Uh, we're marking. Uh. I
feel like we're probably marking Alex.When did we leave the office, you
know? Oh, I was actuallygoing to bring that up. It's Today's
a year. Yeah, my lastday. My last day is this week
Wednesday. Yeah, because congratulate Wednesdaywas next week is fifty two weeks since
I started doing the drum streams.So oh wow, wow, okay,

(01:58:25):
wow, can we just can wejust talk about that day real quick?
Yeah? Sure, sure, sure. I remember talking turning to Mark and
Nick saying to them and I knowI'm not trying to be I don't know
what but I said. I said, I don't think. I said,
I don't think we will be backhere for a year. Wow. Good

(01:58:46):
for you. You knew it.And not only was I wrong, because
we will never be back there,that's right circumstance. Yeah. The kicker
is that I was wrong, justnot in a way be wrong. Well,
you will not be back there fora year, and where and the
following year and the year after that. Uh. But the wildest thing is

(01:59:10):
the fact that I you know,and a lot of the people have moved
away. To me, it's like, uh, the fact that I well
haven't seen you guys obviously since thatday, right have we have? I
seen each other in person? I'veseen Alex the time we did to clean
out the office thing Backlar, Ihave closed to drop off at you in
your place and I'll but you'll seeyou then. Yeah, at some point
ONCED I need to come tune yourdrums, Vinnie. And that's yeah,

(01:59:33):
literally I need to tunic drums.Yes, man, I gotta get these
shots. So uh yeah, youknow, and not like Nick producer Nick
who moved out West. No,I don't know the next time I'm gonna
see that. Yeah, And thatwas the day I remember and I ended
joking. There's like, too bad, I'll never see you guys again,

(01:59:53):
like a joke. You know,it's a small world. You'll see people
again. I see them, butI you know, I want to,
I want to give hugs. Iwant to, I wanna you know.
Well, it was the reason Iremembered is my son's birthdays at the end
of March, and you know,he had a kids party that we reserved
like a go kart thing for yeand it's coming up again and being like

(02:00:15):
I know, here we go.We have this ending reservation there that we
have to you know, postpone,you know we I think we postponed it.
At first. It was like we'llgive it three months, and then
it was like, okay, we'llgive it another four months. And then
now it's like all right, well, just I don't think we can cancel
it, so we just keep kickingit down the line. So you'll get

(02:00:36):
it back one day if they're ever, if there's business, we'll go go
karting. But here's the fun part. Now sisters almost old enough to drive
the cart on our own. SoMatt wins Max's birthday twenty eight, twenty
yeah, so he and I thatend of March people, we were one
of the first to get double doublingup on COVID birthdays. That's right,

(02:01:00):
that's right. You got to makegood everybody though, sooner or later.
But like, I don't know,if your birthday was last week, you
might have got Like my my brother'sbirthday was the eight, so we had
a dinner at the dinner, sothen you had a COVID spreader party before
everybody was aware had COVID exactly.That was the joke. Uh, and
then mine is the twenty fourth andin between that no buy no, so

(02:01:29):
yeah, yeah, I had thekids who got the kids who missed the
parties, that whole internal because theseis early April two and it's like it
sucks man. Yeah, but hey, it's good to see you guys.
Good to see you in the audience. Hope everybody's doing well out there.
Yeah. I heard somebody of authorityon something say, you know what,
in terms of the virus in theUnited States, we might be on the

(02:01:54):
getting better side than the goodding.It does seem like it. So I
hope that's true, at least herein the United States. And I hope
that is the case. But thatis gonna do it for this show.
I'm I start playing the music now. I hope. I hope on one
is all said and done. Welook back and be like the boy and
remember that we're wearing those masks thatwas weird time instead of see yeah,

(02:02:17):
instead of like, oh no,we buy those every year. Alexa Borrow,
thank you very much. Are youdrumming today? I am six o'clock
as usual. Fantastic, Go catchthat. Jeff backlard. Thank you very
much. All Right, guys,I'm gonna I'm gonna get those kids clothes
dropped off and run away from yourhouse pretty soon. Thanks everybody for listening

(02:02:38):
out there. We got quick looksup of a bunch of stuff. You
can go check out Loop Hero.You can go check out Harvest Moon one
World. You can go check outCat that's all up on the side,
Maquette that's all up on the side. There might be some other stuff that
I missed. You got a Valheimstream happened yesterday with one Abbey Russell.
You can go check that out.And of course the Hotspot and the Bomb

(02:02:59):
cast. That's gonna do it forthis week's show. I will be out
next week. I think I'm gonnabe out next week. Possible, I'll
be out next week. So happybirthday everybody, and I'll see you when
I come back. Good luck,Alex and Jeff, thanks again for listening.
And you can got some Beast castsnext week.