The Giant Beastcast: Episode 306

Lucy James and Jake Dekker from GameSpot join us to talk about Disco Elysium, Evil Genius 2, Narita Boy, and Genesis Noir! Who says games aren't coming out?! We've also got the news, emails, and more!

Episode Transcript

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Hello, everybody, Welcome back tothe Giant Beast Cast. Vinny Caravella.
This is episode three hundred and Squirrelsto the right, and then six,
episode three hundred and six April.First, folks, fool, no fool,
and no fool. You could trustme? I never fool, I

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never go Straight Shooter, number onepodcast in the universe, Straight Truth coming
at you on the Truth Express.And this is uh April second, if
it's Friday, if you're listening here, I'm gonna get this right out of
the way. I'm joined by LucyJames and Jake Deck are two fantastic people
with two fantastic names. Both Yeah, yeah across the Clinton. No,

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you got Lucy, you have likea great like action movie name, like
Jake. You're just a sci ficharacter. You're never gonna escape like Blade
Runner. So you're just yeah,I'm okay with that. That works for
me. I was gonna say,yeah, I am not to be trusted
because I have three first names.So the third one Jennifer in the middle.
So I'm I have three first names. Can't trust me? Wow?

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Is that a thing? You can'ttrust people? Yeah? Multiple first names?
Yeah, I have. I meanmost people well, I guess raise
your raise your hand, raise yourhand. If you don't have a middle
name, yeah, I wish Ididn't because I hate it. Hate my
middle name. I think it's sostupid. Alexis my first name either,

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man. Yeah, no, I'mI'm I'm Alex twice so you know.
Uh, Lucy and Jake, thanksfor joining us. Lucy and Jake from
game spots. Uh and not tobe confused with game stop, no different
outlet entily, you guys. Therewasn't like any confusion during that whole fiasco,

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was there? Yes? Yeah,there was, Yeah, there was
there happened to be something. Ifeel like our social media did particularly well
during that whole fiasco because whenever we'dlike make a joke about the stocks or
whatever, people would be like,oh, it's them, They're making a
joke about themselves. It's like nasnot us. I love brands on Twitter.
Yeah, a lot of a lotof stocks that didn't deserve any money.

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I got some some love from thatwhole thing. There, didn't they.
I don't know what you're talking about. Jeff Nacklar's here, Hey,
how how how's it going? Everyoneglad to be here, feeling good,
April's here, let's do it.Yeah, that's all I got. Yeah,

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And Alex Navarro, indeed, I'mhere at least until just about three
o'clock because according to the word onthe street, the smoke on the street,
maybe getting vaccinated today, so I'dprobably just gonna do that. Is
it's still in doubt? Uh yousay, maybe, what is it?
I say in doubt because I don'ttrust anything at this point. I like

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my trust has been completely demolished bythe sequence of events of the last year
and change. So sure, untilthat needle is in my arm and the
liquid is running its way through myveins and making the disease go by by
uh my limited understanding vaccines. Okay, hey, whatever makes you feel better.

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But two things I want you tomake sure of when you're you're getting
this vaccination. One, don't getit behind seven eleven, got it all
right, Don't do it where you'resupposed to when they put it, put
it in there. Make sure theyput the actual vaccine in you. I've
heard you don't. You don't wantit to just stab you and then they
don't do it. Make sure theyput the plunger in. Okay, that's
something you want to be I willattention today. I will make sure that

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the person does that. If theplunger's in already and they pull it out,
that's wrong. That's that means they'restealing your life, take that person's
empire. That's bad. You don'twant that bad that happening. But also
make sure there was actually liquid inthat, because I think I saw an
episode of CSI where someone killed likeshe killed her husband by injecting. A

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serial crime show ever has had anepisode where someone got murdered by a needle
with aaron it. That is oneof the favorite tropes of crime. Like
if if the whoever administers the vaccinegoes for a freckle, that's that's because
it's untraceable. You can't get itthrough the what stopping. I've seen a
lot of CSI, and that's whatI swear I've seen that because you can't

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you can't check the pin print.I thought it was like, don't you
go between the fingers or something?Isn't that the thing you're thinking of?
Heroin? Whoa guys, you knowlisten, hey, we got their different
ways and not Heroin. Let's doyou see the vet did the COVID maderna

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label fall off and it just saysHeroin behind it. It would have three
x's like Alex, sounds good foryou. That's so this is the first
of two new growing for the double. I believe this is the single shot
one. I believe this is thesingle shot. That is what the website
told me. So keep saying believelike you're not sure it's gonna happen,

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and that's take nothing for granted.Okay, I looked up, I did
a casual survey to see about NewJersey, and the sight I went to
just says New Jersey is booked.It's just Shenanigans flag on the play.
Okay, listen, I got myI got mine very easily. Okay,

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I don't I think you just tellyou charm your way into a fucking COVID
vaccine you don't like slip the guyat CVS a fifty and you know,
just gets I think that would youwere probably work, especially in New Jersey.

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Well maybe under the Christy administration.Well, Alex, you do have
to get out of here. Sowe're gonna do our best to make sure
that we run long. So let'sstart with it with a game. I've
been playing Genesis Now Air. Anybodyelse played Genesis Now Air. I started

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a little bit of it. Ihaven't played it yet, but I have
downloaded it. Yeah, very well, very very wacky game. It is
on Xbox Game Pass, on PCand on the console. It is a
game. It's called an adventure game, very stylized adventure game with wacky is
the word I would use for it. Okay, let's say, like like

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a wacky cigarette. It's very jazzy, it's a very It's like what that
has a wacky cigarette? Dude,the Devil's letts like, Oh, I've
never heard before, but I dolike it. People Devil's lettuce might be
like a West Coast thing, becauseI've only heard West Coast people call it

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Devil's lettuce. I've always heard likepeople are always like, yeah, the
Devil's let us read it than theDevil's dick. At least that's what they
said in super Bands. Okay,sure, we're doing satan cockery all right,
right out in the first twenty minutes. Usually save that for the second
half. So how do you getgame spot after dark one? I guess.
I guess so well. I don'tknow where to go from there.

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Genesis no air uh is a gameabout abstracted game about the Big Bang and
the creation of the universe and whatit's it's again, it's in this kind
of couched in this adventured game noiradventure as with this jazzy backdrop and this

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kind of sol bass meets sixties Tomand Jerry kind of aesthetic going on.
What yeah, yeah, So thegameplay maybe is not all that, but
the style and the presentations pretty good. You kind of make your way through
the events of creation and time itself, doing different little mini games and different

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things, and you're basically trying tostop a murder and you have some choices
at the end, and I reallyenjoyed. It's only about three or four
hours long. Genesis now are Ithink it's fifteen dollars. Available on most
platforms except PlayStation. I could thinkit's only Switch Xbox. I think it's
a game pass, right, Alot of stuffs on game pass, Yeah,

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a lot of stuff. I'm intoit. I think it's a vibes
game for sure. It is verymuch about you know, just sort of
drinking individuals and the soundtrack while reallyweird shit happens in front of you.
But I'm pretty into that. Like, I don't necessarily need it to be
a super challenging adventure game. LikeI'm more than happy to just kind of
poke it some and click on somestuff and then fucking you shoot the big

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bang out of a gun. It'swell, you don't do it, but
somebody's doing it. Yeah. It'sa game that I totally judged by its
cover. I I was scrolling around. I think my wife saw and she's
like, that's cool. I'm like, that is cool. Forgot about it,
but I'm going to play it thisweek for sure. It's it's pretty
short. You could probably knock itout in a sitting or two. Speaking

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on a game pass just while we'reon the topic, jumped into Desperados again
for the eighth time, and thenfinally said, as I've said in the
last you know, four weeks,Hey, I really think I should be
playing this on PC and not onconsole. And then went and finally played
it on PC and was like,yeah, I was right, I should
be playing this on PC. Thisthis controls a lot more like I expected

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to, and I'm enjoying it.I think that game is fun and kind
of you know, it's like Ididn't play the other Desperadoes, but it's
very Commando's ish and you know,goofy and weird and cowboy in a kind
of dope, be fun way.I've only played a couple of hours of
it, but yeah, enjoying it. And I also jumped into uh Dishonored.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah, Dishonoredagain for the first time. I
did the exact same thing last Fridaywhen we heard our little recharge day.
I played, ok, the firstcouple of hours. Okay, yeah,
so how far did you wind upgetting? So I've played it through a
few times on PlayStation. So I'vestarted again on Xbox Game Pass and I

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got through. What am I upto? I did the first level,
Mcgrunnie Rags. Who am I killing? Oh, I'm going to the brothel,
Okay, going to the I'm goingto the brothel and doing all that
stuff. But up to that yet? Who? Yeah? The last thing
I did was the Lord Overseer.But I'm trying to do ghosts and clean
hands. But Dishonored two did itso much better because you could check throughout

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the level if anyone was discovered oryou were seen. Dishonored one you can't
do that you have to wait untilyou finished the level. And I fucked
up my first run, so I'vealready failed, Lucy. I don't want
to going to start over. No, okay, I don't want to put
you on the spot, Lucy.But didn't you say that you weren't going
to do any years no plays?What are you doing here? So that's

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the thing, is like I realizedthat in twenty twenty all I did was
just like replay old stuff and watchold movies because that's psychological safety right of
stuff that you if you know yourcon comfort food. Yeah, and then
I realized, you know, howmuch stuff am I missing? And so
in twenty twenty one, I waslike, Okay, well no replays,

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and well I've I've failed that spectacularlybecause my roommates are watching rewatching all the
Marvel movies. So I've been watchinga few of those. Okay, replaying
Dishonored, replayed Edith Finch earlier becauseI want to be sad. I cry
like like such a little baby withthat game. Yeah I did that.
And those resolutions are explicitly for breakingand my my because I'm also keeping a

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list because I'm cool, which hastags and it's a searchable list. Wow.
Cool, want to hear more aboutthis? Can we just hold that?
Because there a spreadsheet we can act. I'm just like a database kind
of nerd like spread cheat person out, What are you doing? How we
cat all this notion? I'm doingit in notion? Let me let me
pull it up? Yes? Please? Already you've been a keyboard. Let's

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go. You've been keeping notes onthis podcast, haven't you. I basically
have a database and you can wellI'm really putting myself out here, but
yeah, you can. You canorganize it by stuff that's in progress,
stuff that I've finished, stuff thatI abandoned. Yeah, gotta have those
parameters. Of course, how areyou supposed to understand what you've done?

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Tagged by platform too, so stuffon Xbox, PlayStation, PC switch.
I also have TV shows in there, movies and books and I have read
a single book this year, whichis terrible. The year is just getting
started. Listening April fiscal year hasstarted. As of today, it's been

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like three months. Like that's nothingthat's just getting up, that's getting out
of that time. But you know, yeah, yeah, Lucy, I
dishonored. I hit a wall indishonor the first time I played it,
and it just wound up in asituation where as a stealth game, I
want to play it very stealthily,and I just wound up not fully grasping

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the vision cones or the sense ofwhen somebody's gonna spot me, or how
this is going to go wrong?Yeah? Is it? Is? It
just that type of game of quicksave and then kind of reload if you
goof up. Yes, okay,and I mean yeah, And disonded To
is my personal favorite because of theway that it really leans into letting you

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do that. You can if youjust pause the game, you can use
the triggers to quick save and quickload. Okay, They're just like,
yeah, go ahead, do iteveryone. But I mean disconded one definitely
a lot more finicky when it comesto itself. Some of it does definitely
feel unfair. There is sometimes whereI can I'll be up on a ceiling
or something and I'll stand up yeah, or I'll crouch, or I'll do

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something like completely non conspicuous, andthen a guy will see me and I'm
like, what I didn't I'm definitelyout of your cone of vision because I'm
above you. But yeah, orlike, like I feel like I'm a
pixel off on where I put abody or I was doing the doing the
one I did it like seven times, maybe eight, possibly twenty where the

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guys and this must be the overseerone when he's in the room and you
can poise them and you choose whetherand I like, you know, had
some maybe had some bodies laying aroundthe hallway and was like, okay,
reload, I'll move this body overhere. Okay, it's fine on this
run, and that's not fine onthis run, or like he spots it
on this one, and then youknow, just just weird stealth stuff that

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made me not feel like the badassI think I was supposed to feel like
and maybe feel like the clumsiest superspyin the world. But I am making
a genuine effort this time. Iwill try and keep going. It's fun
to have those games on game Pass. Now. The big game I spent
the most time playing is Evil Geniustwo for this week. Evil Genius two

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the follow up to Evil Genius.For those that don't know, it is
a game in which you play asthis kind of cartoonish villain that is setting
up their kind of sixties style nineteensixties style bond Ish bass, and again
you're the villain, and you knowit's all the inner workings of you know,

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the kind of Austin powers ish bureaucraticevil villain stuff. I'm like,
hey, you need barracks, andyou need this room for researching, you
know, science, and you needthis other room for you know, where
are people gonna eat, where arethey gonna train, where you're gonna train
all these phones. So you're buildingyour base, and then on the other
side of that, super agents willcome in invador base, and you kind

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of have this whole layer. Sothe game is basically two things. One
is this base building tower DEFENSEI kindof thing where you're building traps for people
who invade your base, and you'retrying to get all the mechanics of your
base figured out by carving out partsof this mountain if you choose that map.
And then the other side is thistactical map where I feel like the

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game really slows down, in whichyou're sending workers and minions and stuff to
accomplish these tasks by just clicking oneither a thing to generate money, which
they generate overall heat which is kindof like if the heat gets too high,
you're gonna get invaded, or you'resending them on missions to lower the
heat, and that pretty quickly getsvery monotonous and not that much fun as

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you kind of bounce into that map, click on a couple of things,
and then kind of jump back inuntil they say this thing's completed, and
then jump back out and kind ofclick on a thing or two again.
Also, the game, when Iwas playing it, and I don't think
I'm very good at it, butI have put about fifteen hours into it
so far feels like it is boomor bust for me. I am either

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doing super well and my vault isfull of gold bars or I am scraping
the bottom and everybody on that basehas been wiped out by some attack that
I need to go and reload asave and then kind of plan for that
that particular attack to come, like, oh, they came from here.
I didn't have much traps here.I guess I'm completely wiped out. Gonna

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go back, reload, set upall these traps in their way, and
then make it through. So thatbeing said, I think the game is
better than average, not great,but I am kind of enjoying it.
I do. I think the techTree moves very quickly in the beginning and
then slows down, and excuse me, in the narrative part, in the

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kind of hey, I'm playing thestory bits. They gate you by story
on what you can do on thetech Tree, and so I'm at this
wall where it's like, well man, the story part's going super slowly.
I really wish I could get theseother things on the tech Tree. It
would make this go so much faster. But they're like, now you need
the progress in the story more so. There is a sandbox mode that I
think kind of ameliorates a lot ofthat stuff and kind of gets rid of

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a lot of those annoyances. AndI haven't messed with that yet. I
should, and I will before werecord something with it, because I think
it removes a lot of those nitpicksfrom it. But you know, that's
not the story mode, and that'snot the building the giant laser that will
turn everything into gold mode. Youcan't pick a couple of different villains.

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I've mostly been working with the doctorevil knockoff villain that is kind of the
standard campaign one's Evil Genius two.I think it just released this week.
Evil Genius is from like the odds, right, Like that's from like mid
two thousands. Yeah, I thinkso it must have been post Austin Powers
because it's so doctor evil. Wasit? Was it always rebellion? Who

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was doing it? Or did theybuy it? I'm not sure. There's
definitely is rebellion, but yeah,I'm not sure. I mean, I
don't think it feels more referential toAustin Powers than it does to James Bond.
So when did Austin Powers come out? Is that the last one was
like two thousand and three? Okay, so she would never do that now,

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Yeah, you're right, So yeah, it's fun. The other thing
I kind of bounced around a littlebit on Uh actually I think it talks
about that last week already, soyeah, I'm not gonna talk about that
again, all right, Yeah,Alex, Yes, what'd you been up

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to? Let's see. So Ifinally made it to the final chapter in
uh fights in Tight Spaces. Goodfor you. I have it saved there
to go and do that last seriesof fights, and so hopefully when I
am back from my vaccination, Iwill not be so bleary brained that I
am not able to continue to fight, because if I lost in the middle

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of this, I would be verysad. It's been a long run.
I started Monday on over on PCbecause I was playing that game on PS
five and it felt chuggy in away that I wasn't sure if it was
the game or was just you know, the way it was supposed to be.
And then I started playing it onEpic Game Store and that's the game.

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That's not how the game is supposedto It's not supposed to be quite
that chuggy. So I'm now playingit on PC and it's very smooth,
very nice. So playing some moreof that. I also Narita Boy came
out. Yes, yeah, Ikick started that game a couple of years
ago. I'm gonna say I don'tremember when I kick start things until they
show up in my inbox eventually,That's all I know. But yeah,

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they've had a really good like preViz sort of pitch of like, hey,
here is this sort of side scrollingaction game that takes place in a
universe that is a little bit likea cross between Tron and I'm stealing this
from someone in the comments from ourquick look like a little bit of like
a Joe Roski kind of like metaphysicalweirdness thing going on. So you get

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sucked into the computer, you haveto save the memories of the guy who
created the computer, or the operatingsystem or something that has been taken over
by a corrupt I'm just gonna saywarlock that lives in the computer. That's
the best I got for it.And the whole game is very heavy into

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like eighties vaporwave cyber vibes and alsojust kind of bogging you down. And
I don't mean bogging down and likeit's it's tedious or annoying. It's just
really in love with NonStop references tothe religious nature of the technology in the
computer. There's nothing. There's allthese priests and these you know, deities

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and creatures that live in the computer, and they all, you know,
they'll pray to this thing called thetrichroma, which is these three different colors
of light that all do different things. And it's it's it has so much
of it that it's actually it loopsaround from being tedious back to charming,
like they just can't stop throwing thatshit at you. And then in between
all of that, it's an actiongame. Where you have a technosword and

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you stab bad computer programs, andthat part is not overly deep or challenging,
but it's good enough. And there'sa lot of just really good visual
art and again vibes in that gamethat uh, I am very into like
about I would say probably about likethree hours into it at this point,
and there's a quick look up onthe site if you want to check it

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out. I liked what I sawof that. That seemed very cool.
It's very cool. Anything else,Alex, That's pretty much been it this
week, Jake, what's been upto over there? Hello? I've been
playing a lot of the Discolysium FinalCut on PS five. I originally played
it on PC and I loved it. The PS five version isn't great so

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far. It's buggy. Not havinga mouse and keyboard is is kind of
an issue, just because you knowyou're interacting with the environment when you have
a mouse and keyboards, you're highlightingdifferent objects, seeing your characters walking to
it. I do like having directcontrol with the control stick, but like
you kind of just use the rightstick to focus on different things and it

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just feels a little weird. ButI think the bigger issue is that right
now is just kind of buggy.Like the one thing that they've been hyping
people up about is that the fullthing is voice. But I've had a
lot of characters just not read outtheir lines, or I've had text disappear.
All that being said, like,I still really like the game.
It's excellent, one of my favoritesfrom twenty nineteen, but yeah, it's
a little disappointing. Lucy, you'vebeen playing it as well, Yeah,

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same boat, It's kind of Yeah, it is buggy. I haven't had
the one where, like voice actingdisappears. I've had a one where sometimes
I'll just get a random bit ofstatic and someone someone will be talking and
in the background you can hear static, but it's just for one line,
so it's not even supposed to bethis sustained thing. My PlayStation as well,

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that's the PS five version and thebiggest issue that I had. But
I was playing it before they patchedit. I played it on release day
and they patched it yesterday, soI'm not sure if this stuff has been
fixed yet. But I couldn't progresspast you know, your lizard brain is
waking you up, and that's thefirst bit of text that you see and
that continue wouldn't appear for me,and so that's kind of need that sort

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of need that, And I thoughtit was me just being stupid, and
I was like mashing all the buttonson the controller. I was quitting out
and then checking the start men needsmake sure of hitting the right things.
And it just turns out that itwas just a bug and I had to
restart it, I think three timesbefore I could get past that. But
then I did. Yeah, Isaw a bunch of people complaining about it

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chugging a little bit and not necessarilyhitting sixty frames. I haven't had any
of that. It's just been thecontrol scheme. Yeah, doing it with
a mouse and keyboard is so mucheasier, but the way that they've mapped
stuff to the right stick definitely takessome getting used to, and it's a
bit finicky on what it decides tolet you highlight. But otherwise it's like

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it's such a fantastic game. It'slike Jake said, one of my favorites
of twenty nineteen, and the voiceacting is so good and adds so much,
But if you're playing that on abig screen, the text needs to
be bigger. You can increase it, but it's not big enough. It's
not big enough now, oh right, right, right, okay, yes,
I didn't even realize that right.Coming to consoles, Yes, I've
been playing as like a cop withzero stats, Like I just said everything

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to one. So I am justan absolute nightmare in that game. Like
I walk out, I try torun away from the guy at the beginning
who's telling you own money, andI just run out and die because I
tripped, and just the shot killsmy character, and I reload try to
get my tie die like just itis an absolute disaster, but it's so
funny some of the stuff that youcan see if you're willing to play like

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that. I probably don't recommend itbecause there's a lot of reloading, but
it's funny. Like the body inthe back that you're supposed to investigate,
I can't even get close to itbecause I just throw up every time.
I just don't have the willpower toget close to it. And my partner
is just like, yeah, let'scome back later maybe, and I'm like,
there's no later if I can't gethere. This is it our investigations
over. I do like the ideaof playing that game is a hard drinking

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mister bean constantly tripping over himself andbomb NonStop pretty much. Did they did
they re record lines of dialogue forfor the lines that were already in there,
or they is it? Did theykeep original stuff or they kept the
stuff that was already there except forKuno they replaced. Oh Kuno sucks.

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He that's gone, that's only goneone. Yeah, I haven't I spent
I did. I exhausted him.What does Kuno sound like? Now?
He's he still live a podlion,but he doesn't say you know he Oh
my gosh, I hate Kuno somuch. No offense of the original voice
actor, but holy cow, hehe really he really nailed that. Little

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shit heads. Holy cow. Itwas one of the places where I when
I was first playing, was likeI don't think I don't think I could
go through this. This this,this kid sucks so much. This is
the worst. Uh and then uhKuno's friend. It was also no time.
The whole experience there is I feellike, yeah, yeah, it's
a weird one, but also Ifeel like that's like the point in the

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game. I was like, Okay, I think I see what you're going
for here, like you know,once you kind of engage with it a
little bit, and I never finishedit. I got a decent amount in
uh and this is making me wantto go back into it. But at
first I played it and I waslike, I don't know if I'm gonna
like that this this stuff, andI don't know. And then after I

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got through some of that stuff,I was like, Okay, I think
I see what you're doing here.I think I see where we're going with
this. Actually I'm liking this.I'm enjoying what's going on here. I
think at first I thought this isway too far up its own, but
it's never going to be able tosee the light of day. But then
I think it actually pulls someone itoff and kind of makes good on it's

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it's nature. I can't remember whereI left off. I did the part
with the freezer, I did thepart in the warehouse. Did you go
over the bridge? I did?Yeah, Yeah, I'm not sure how
far I got though, I don'tI don't want to spoil anything, but
yeah, I did get past someof that stuff, you know, and
you know, it appeals to theadventure game addict in me on in a

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decent amount of ways, because Ilike multiple paths through stuff, and I
think they do it without it beingthe find the great, punch the guy,
or you know, pay the paythe pay your way through it right,
like do it sneakily, do itwith because you have a lot of
money, or and and they doit with consequence that I think seems to
or at least seems to matter,or has that vibe that it matters.

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I don't know if everything filters backhaving only played it, uh, you
know, some of it once.I don't know if anything everything filters back
in that kind of funnel back toOkay, it really doesn't matter what you
pick, and you're you're gonna makeit. I mean, you guys can
probably tell me. Does it matterwhat you pick? Like will you get
multiple consequences for your Yeah. SoI've only played through it once. I

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was going to play it again,but then they announced the final cuts,
so I decided to wait. SoI've only seen one ending, but it
seems like there's a lot there.But I know one of the bigger criticisms
was that your political alignment that youkind of forge throughout your adventure doesn't really
factor into the story as much aspeople hoped, and I think with the
final cut they are addressing that,which is something I'm curious about because I

(30:22):
think the political side of it waspretty interesting, at least to some extent.
Like you know, you'd get anachievement for being like the most pathetic
like communist or the or the likethe I forgot like middle of the fence
or whatever I go. I gotone. It was basically condemning me for
being a centrist. Yeah. Yeah, there's some like good stuff around there,

(30:45):
but they never really followed through onthat in the original That being said,
though, like the ending I gotseems pretty different from what other people
got initially. But I'm curious tosee what they do with this though.
Well they have political vision quests now. Yeah, so I when when I
got my code, PR actually sentover things like they're actually missable. You

(31:06):
have to have unlocked a specific thoughtin your thought cabinet, you know,
one for each political alignment. Andso that's something to bear in mind because
I am more interested to see howthat plays in to the wider story,
especially if it's a new quest.I'm very interesting to see what they've done
there because I saw some of theb roll when I raise political vision quest

(31:29):
that I can scarcely describe. It'sit's just really ringing me out. I
don't know. I don't want that. It's what my uncle's posted on Facebook
and ship. Yea, so areall the are all the inner monologues voice?
Now I haven't played it played yet. Oh my gosh, that's yeah,
does it break any of it andbe like that's not the right voice,

(31:52):
like if you've played it before andbe like, that's not what that
should sound like. I not yet. But one thing that Lucy actually pointed
out the other day, I mean, you can probably talk to it better,
but a lot of like the descriptionof things like if someone says how
you're doing but they like take adragular cigarette, that there's no narrator for
that, So that kind of getsmissed a little bit unless you read you
know, but there's no vo forthat. Yeah. I'm having a hard

(32:15):
time remembering what had like bark linesor a little like intro line, like
who spoke because I'm hearing the voicesin my head, but I can't tell
if that's my inner voice for eachcharacter or thing or who was actually voiced
in the game, so curious togo back and see. Maybe I'll before
an updated on my PC. I'lltry and turn off the update, launch

(32:36):
into it real quick to refresh mymemory, and then update. It's a
pretty big patch, I think ifyou're on the PC, I want to
say yes. So like about thesize of the original game is being added
and stuff. But that's exciting,Jake. Anything else, Yeah, I've
also been playing a game called ProjectWinter, also another game pass game.
It is I've been describing it isamong Us, but with mechanics not to

(33:00):
dig among Us. It seems likepeople really like that game. But but
like this is like a survival gamethat's built around the whole idea of having
someone as a trader. I don'tknow if you guys have played it or
heard of it at all. I'veheard it's it's pretty good. It's you
need like a full group of people. You need at least six people for
it to really work. But basicallytwo people are traders. The rest of

(33:22):
the people are just trying to completesome basic objectives. But there's some basic
survival stuff like you need to eat, you need to stay warm because it
takes place in winter, as thename implies, and it's a lot of
fun, like you, especially whenyou're a trader, because there's a lot
you can do to mess with otherpeople, Like you can set up traps

(33:43):
outside of objectives, whether that belandmines, bear traps you can get.
There's like guns you can get.The shooting isn't great, but I think
that's kind of on purpose to keepit balanced. But it's fun. I
highly recommend it. If you've gota group of people game pass it's free
Project Winter, Project Winter Yeah cool, Okay, how many people in a

(34:04):
match at a time. You cando up to eight. You can also
like have people join you online.It's cross play too, but like,
I don't know, I played alittle bit with randoms online and I'm just
like, yeah, I don't.I don't need to hear people saying suss
over and over and over again.Honestly, if that's all people are saying
over random voice chat, it's worse. Yeah, yeah, but no.

(34:29):
That's been the hardest thing about thisgame, though, is just coordinating people
to play, because like you getsix and the last minutes someone dips and
it's like, well, sorry,everyone, none tonight, wait till you
do. You have to have afull eight. No, you can do
with technically you can do it withfive, but if you do with five,
there's only one trader, and itjust feels pretty stacked against the traders.
If you do six, there aretwo traders, but anything under five

(34:52):
you can't even start a game,at least as far as I know.
I've only done like the basic mode, which there's no roles or anything like.
If you play the more advanced mode, there's like a detective who can
like check out bodies to maybe pickup clues. There's a soldier who has
access to like weapons, bunkers.It's a it's a good time. It's
a good time. Do you takeanything else for me? Lucy? So

(35:15):
anything else? Anything else going on? So discolesium, But I only played
a couple of hours of it theother day. I have been really enjoying
it takes two, which is I'mplaying with a friend of mine who we
usually play Overwatch together. So veryused to calling out calls because there's no

(35:36):
paying system or anything you have totalk to. Yeah, there should be.
There should be a paying system,but I mean, I guess I
see why they've done it to reallypromote you talking real marriage doesn't have a
paying system. But what if itdid it actually does I really think it
does. Yes, you get thatwith the license it comes. It's just

(35:57):
maybe if you're married by like aUnitarian or something, you just point the
things and they light up and there'ssalt here. It's weird. It's weird.
So I mean, I have aquestion. I have a question.
So you you're playing it online,right, That's like the biggest thing for
me is I kind of wish Isaw more of the screen I'm doing like

(36:19):
the couch co op thing with mywife. Oh well, I mean you
still get the side by side youdo, Yeah, that's permanent. Yeah,
well then this changes nothing for me. Say yeah, I just like,
uh, I don't know. Maybeit's just I can't. I can't
not. I guess you're supposed tolook at their screen, of course,

(36:43):
because it's sort of like but wherethe ping system will come in really handy.
So it's like, if I'm lookingat your screen, well, then
yeah, let me do it.Like what are we doing here? Right?
It's not like, well, it'snot a game that you could play
without voice chat, then right,you have to talk? Yeah, because
that's there's some stuff where you haveto count down or jump at the same
time. There's a really I mean, I'm playing with a friend of mine

(37:06):
who's in London and we were gettingsome lag and then you know, ea,
service completely died the other day whilewe were playing, and it was
really difficult because there's a there's abit in I think it's the shed where
it's all of the vacuum stuff andthere's this little sequence where there are three
vents and the person outside hits theswitch and each vent you spouts air up.

(37:30):
That took us, I'm not evenkidding about five ten minutes because we
were getting lag. But also it'sthe communication stuff of trying to nail like
when you're gonna jump and so youcan try and look at the other person's
screen, but it doesn't work forevery single thing, every single encounter.

(37:50):
Yeah, there was one I sawwith Alexe I think you and Brand did
it where you had to hit buttonsto turn fans off. That sounds like
it would be a timing nightmare ifyou if you's a lot of like appliance
based horror, it's just really Yeah, that's that's like a that's like a
like what like a third of arelationship rights, like nails falling out of
this guy for no good reason.That bit sucked. I did not like,

(38:13):
I didn't not care for nails.Difficulty ramps up in a huge way
on that level, and I meanit did tear us apart, uh temporarily.
But did Hakim bring you together again? No? In fact, that
further enrage does doctor and him cango fuck himself? I like, what,
why does it think it's so funnywhat he does? Like he thinks

(38:35):
he's so cool. It's so dumb. It's so dumb. He comes down,
he's like, you fucking love me, and everyone's like, no,
go home. He's terrible. Hejust doesn't have a lot going on.
I think that's my fundamental issue withthis game, which is not no,
it can't just be that, butthead. Well no, it's not just that
butthead. But it's the thing islike it is so much better of a
co op game than A Way Outwas, Like the design of it and

(38:59):
just the challenge of it, Likeeverything is just much more thoughtfully designed.
It looks a lot better. It'sjust a much more enjoyable game. But
it still has this weird storytelling notionwhere it thinks everything it's doing is really
funny and really original, but it'ssuper not like and that's where it's kind
of driving me up the wall.It's like Joseph Ferris thought he had invented

(39:22):
the buddy, you know, prisonescape thing in a way out, and
here it feels like he thought hehad finally captured the spirit of like you
know, a big three D animatedtent pole movie, but like, no,
the jokes are not there, like, the characters are not there.
There's weird. It's weird, likeit's the vibes are strange, Like the

(39:42):
way the tone shifts from level tolevel is bizarre in kind of an inventive
way. But I just don't likeanyone in it. I don't like any
of it. I don't like anyonein it either. But I still think
it's super fun. It's well designed, Like it's a really well designed game.
It's funny you mentioned the tone shift, because it's all quite airy fairy
for a while, and you know, there's this bickering couple and then the

(40:04):
tone completely changes to you purposefully tryingto make your daughter cry. And there
is a bit with an elephant.Oh I know about the elephant. I'm
not going to spoil it in casepeople want to play it, but I
was, you know, you know, it's part of the game. You
have to do this thing, andthe whole time, I'm just going,
I don't feel good about this.I don't feel good about it. I

(40:28):
don't don't feel good about this atall, because it's done in such a
weirdly harrowing way that it's such adeparture from the rest of it, which
is I think the level you're inis like your kid's bedroom, which is
all toys and blocks, and youknow, everyone's cute and fairy princesses,
and then you get this bit withthe elephant. It's like, oh my
god. But I'm overall I'm reallyenjoying it, but it has highlighted a

(40:51):
real issue with me that's definitely becomemore pronounced during quarantine, and that my
brain is too foggy. I youknow, I am an exceptionally depressed person
and I suffer from brain fog quitea lot, and I just I can't
think of words sometimes. And thereactually we clip this and tweeted it out,

(41:12):
but there's this section We're on rails, and I was the character on
rails, Simon my friend had tohit specific buttons to nift panels, and
I just can't remember basic farm yardanimals and that has become a real you
know, if anything that I've takenfrom this experiences, you know, I'm

(41:32):
having a nice time with my friend, but it's also God, this has
wrecked me as a person this year, Like I just have no it's I
mean earlier when we were talking aboutDishonor. Dishonor is a game I've played
multiple times, and I played ita week ago and you were like even
he said, where where are youin the game? And I just couldn't
think of it, and so pingsystem for it takes two would be great.

(42:00):
I mean to say that the Yeah, it was a mouse, and
I called it beaver because it wasthe only thing I could think of.
The brain. The brain is awondrous and and and miraculous thing. I
also cannot often think of things,especially quickly. So if you had asked
me what I was up to anddishonored again, I'm up to the part

(42:22):
where I poison a guy only becauseI remember having to poison him like three
times, I couldn't tell you anythingelse I am. I'm wanting to play
it takes two. I don't knowif I want to play that with my
kids as the co op person.It's its difficulty quite yeah, okay,

(42:46):
I mean this, yeah, Iit's you know, I get very easily
and irrationally, uh frustrated when Iplay a game with someone who like literally
is never done a right stick camera, and I'm just like, folk's wrong
with you. I'm very bad ofme to do this and I and I

(43:07):
get frustrated. Playing with my wife. It's also more funny than it is
frustrating, because it's just like watchingor jump off into oblivion over and over
again. It's pretty good. ButI at one point was just sort of
like, I don't know if wecould play this game. Like it's not
your fault. Well, how youI've played games for thirty five years,
you've you didn't you should? Youknow? It's not easy to just like

(43:29):
pick up and like you said,Lucy, difficulty spikes in such a quick
way, and men, you justgo off the rails real quick, and
it's just like, I don't knowif this game is gonna get done this
way. And then I'm like lookingout, you know, I'm thinking like
do I get my kid to fillin, and then I'm like, oh,
maybe I know. I cannot recommendagainst enough anyone playing this game with

(43:51):
a child that is of an agethat is at all perceptive, because they
are going to probably think, areyou dad, Are you trying to tell
me something? You just have toget to the end of this game.
Just you get to it. Itall makes sense. Fine, don't worry.
Has anybody finished it yet? Istill I still don't know what happens
at the end, So don't spoilit anybody. I'm in the I'm in

(44:14):
the last the last bit. It'salso way longer than you think it is.
Yeah, ten twelve hours more thatis that is gonna take more than
two I think. I mean listeningwhen I was in the preview event,
because I was playing as a couchco op game, it was very strange

(44:35):
they gave out this preview code,and obviously I lived with Greg and so
we were like, oh, thisis an easy collab here. We could
just play in the living room,and you know, that first hour we
were like, yeah, this isyou know, you could give this to
someone who wasn't a gamer. Andthen we got to the boss by yeah,
you can't, and so they doa thing where they make it very
easy for the other person to quicklyspawn back, you know, just mash

(44:58):
triangle. You can still both die. You can both die, and sometimes
those checkpoints are not very forgiving,and that nail hellscape, nail the nail
bit. This is a weird question, But does it do any weird things
with like the split screen, becausethat was the only thing I remember from
a way out was like, oh, they like are changing the angle of
the splits, and sometimes they dolike side scrolling like screen. Other they

(45:23):
don't really do much with like weirdangles or camera work. I can only
really remember doing one where it's ahorizontal split uh, and everything else is
yeah, sometimes sometimes you'll be bothon the same fights. My kids would
really want to keep playing Super MarioWorld with me, and that's a game
that we're up to a point wherewe just need to get stars to progress,

(45:47):
you know, and we're pretty deepin so we're on like, hey,
okay, most of these levels alreadyhave three stars. Now we gotta
do the hard ones, you know, we're on like the eighteenth World or
whatever, because that name just keepsgoing on forever. But they just want
to play because they like having funand I want to play because I want
to get the stars. And itis such a tough thing and they know

(46:10):
it now because I've been explicit withthem. It's like, hey, hey,
we want to play. We justwant you to We just want to
play with you, dad, Likewe just want you to come and play.
Like okay, I'll give you ahalf hour play with us, Daddy.
Oh wait if oh nice, I'llgive you a half hour and then
we'll reevaluate it for having fun ornot after that half hour, uh,

(46:34):
and we'll see how it's going.And like, okay, have we met
the fun quota? Yeah, becausebecause it gets really frustrated, like you
know, it's it's a point whereyou're like you know, oh you're you're
not. You gotta keep up,you gotta keep up, you gotta keep
up. You're moving the camera offthe screen, or like why did you
bubble? Why did you go intothe bubble? You were the last one
there? Or don't jump yet,we gotta get all the red or those

(46:55):
those levels where that you jump andthe platforms flip over and if you guys
remember those, and it's like okay, everybody, just get into a bubble.
I'm just gonna get through this part. Don't get in front of me
if you can. And then youknow, it's like, you know,
after a half hour, it's like, all right, listen, are we
having fun or not? Do wewant to keep it? I think we're

(47:16):
gonna play something else that thanks foryour time. So it's more it's it's
not so much the stars, it'sthe uh it's just like the you know
in fighting that's going They they willsit there and do the same levels over
again and just have a good timeand the cat costumes and just be like

(47:37):
I miss a star. I telleveryone to jump in a hole. Everybody
jump in a hole. We're doinga level again because kill yourself. So
why are else are we doing this? We need the stars And they're like,
okay, dad, everybody jump inthe hole. Uh So yeah,
it's it's a weird thing. It'shard to get out of that like game
mode of like why are we whyare we playing this? If not just
to get the stars to open upthe next door because it's fun, dad,

(48:00):
what no no no gas to Yeah, Like it takes a long time.
It takes decades to realize what youknow, like to maybe have a
different feeling about the thing, likeI'm having fun just doing the thing.
I'm having fun moving around in themenu, right, and then it's you
figured out. But what one ofthe Mario games lets you cashing coins for

(48:23):
stars? Right? Is it?Honestly? See you think he can buy
moons coin? Yeah? Yeah?Or father even in Galaxy where it's like,
come on, I got fifty eightthousand coins. I can't get one
star out of this, so Ican't move on and play that other world?
Like what are we doing here?Coop games? They'll be the death
of us. All make make coinsworth something? Right, yes, like

(48:45):
real bit bitcoins? Didn't mean thebitcoin joke? This what needs that?
Like we finished we were playing OregonmiKing. It's like Mario's got like eighty
three thousand coins, yeah, andit's just they're they're basically worthless, Like
how much you know you get yourcurrency? Man? You know it's it's

(49:08):
wild to me. I guess it'sfun though, it's super fun, lucy
anything else. I'm slowly working myway through a small indie game called The
Legend of Zelda Breath of the Wildheard it because I never played it in
twenty seventeen, because that Back then, I had an attention span and it
was too open for me, andI didn't care for that because I was

(49:31):
overwhelmed by choice. But now Ican barely focus on text. So thank
god Disco Elysium has voice acting nowand the openness is now appealing to me.
And also my partner is a veryvery big Zelda fan, and he
has been very excited and just it'sit's a nice thing for us to play

(49:52):
together. And he's actually been verygood excuse me, oh, getting yeah,
And so he's been very good atnot telling me when I'm messing up
too much, and he's been buthe's been very helpful because sometimes I'll just
kind of go, I don't wantsomeone I'm supposed to do here, and

(50:14):
he's he's just there. He doesn'tinterject too much, but he's he doesn't
screaming you too jump in the hole, uh because something Okay, that's probably
you missed the cork seed, gokills no. And so that's that's like
the long term thing that we've we'vegot going on. But other than that,

(50:36):
I'm really bad. I'm also playinglike PERSONA five Royal, Like I'm
just dipping into stuff, which isannoying because I want to finish things,
but I just don't have the Ilike that. Yeah, it's theft.
I love it. Yeah, thereyou go the world's buffet, and everybody
always feels good when they come outof a buffet. I actually want I

(50:59):
do hope please go away after allthis. But yeah, I definitely no
regrets. It's just that's that's gonnaname my after I'm retiring and open a
buffet called no Regrets buffet. Ithink there's very plenty of those called that,
just not that deliberately. Yeah,it's the Treasure Island Buffet in Vegas.
Oh my god, Oh my god, right, oh god. How

(51:22):
can people we were at we've beena cs if you a bunch, right,
Lucy, just just the once whenI was with you and Michael and
Peter Peter. Weird there, Peter, Peter, you didn't go to a
buffet while you were out there,right, nor did you not that time?
But I go to Vegas every summerafter E three and we always hit

(51:45):
a buffets. Yeah. It's becauseit's it's just friends from the UK and
we just splite. I mean likeone year we went just because nine Inch
Nails were playing so you know it'sactually that might actually get me to go
to bed. They brought out GaryNewman and they did they did metal together

(52:08):
and I just died. So shokay, I would go to that.
Well, you didn't think you're goingto pull that card for the reason to
go to buffet. But head,I always have a Trent Reson a trap
card. I don't know if thisor not. It's weird, like so
Trent Residents playing a Vegas buffet,Like, oh, I wasn't playing a
buffet, but I had a buffet. That mean, basically it's the same

(52:29):
thing. Like I don't know ifI feel bad for Trent, Like is
that where we're at and where nineis. Shnails is like, oh my
gosh, what are you doing today? Just wheel me in front of whatever
I have to do. We justpretty good shape. All he's like he

(52:50):
comes in there and they're like,oh, where am I to put me
in front of the shrimp like theunlimited shrimp thing, and just like oh,
I'm like, oh no, youwere together most more than just about
any other rock star from that era. He alright, he's scars and ship
like he he just needs a TonyAnd then he's got the ego right there
you go. I mean, yeahabout Trent Spiral the musical coming next year.

(53:16):
Yeah, what did he win anoscar for David Fincher social soul on
Social networker. Thank you? Yeah, Hey, my natkis rous. Don't
don't respect. I'm not trying todisrespect sounds like you are. I'm a
big, big Trent fan. Isaw over there. I did. Well,

(53:38):
that's that's not trans fault people.I brought that out because people when
I would go to cs UH everyyear, there's like a whole scene at
cruise like we gotta do the boorgut not the poor, got it,
that's the Atlantic thing. We gottado, you know, the wind buffet
or whatever. The I just Ijust remember being like, no, we

(53:59):
do not need to do that.It's like seventy three dollars and fifty And
then you get there and you seelike what resembles a pyramid of crab legs,
and you're just like, I'm inthe middle of the fucking desert.
This doesn't make any sense. What'sgoing on. It's a very upsetting scene.
What Yeah, that's right, there'sjust scorpions, you know, they

(54:20):
just rip them off Ax. Didyou know that? Remember the Cliffhouse?
Oh you guys, you guys areit's gone? I think I think it's
gone. It is gone. Yeah, that it's so sad. I really
speaking on of buffets that are prettyextravagant. Uh. The only place I
think I've ever seen somebody player aharp for real? Is that? What's
that? The clip clip clip house? You don't see harps? That must
don't you really? Don't you reallya transportable instrument? No? No,

(54:45):
defe was definite had a great buffet. And what do they call popovers?
Is that what they call them?That? Sure? If that's what,
just assume we're talking about the samething. It's like it's pancake bat a
mix crape mix and you put itin a tin and it kind of falls
over its olf. Yeah, andit's delicious Yorkshire pudding yeah. Wait,

(55:07):
it's putting like a bread. No, you have it with a Sunday roast.
Wait. No, I mean usuallywhat we would do is you get
it on the plate and you pourgravy in the middle of it. But
so I'm from the Northeast and whatused to what they used to do My
mum did for a long time isyou would make a Yorkshire pudding or a

(55:28):
pop over the size of a dinnerplate. Then you would put everything in
it and put all the gravy init, and that was an elite tear.
Yeah, so we did that.And then you fold it over and
you call it a cow zone andthen you that's you just put a little
cheese in there, and or it'sa taco. You're getting real close to

(55:50):
burrito territory. Well not really,because it's like it is more like a
pancake, Mike. So it's it'skind of it doesn't harden, but it's
a crape. It's to see ifcreep. Yeah, but you can have
it. You can put you know, golden syrup and ice cream in and
you can have his little design withthe roast separately separately in there. I

(56:10):
feel like, oh yeah, yeah, you know it's like it's like an
open like like an open meat piekind of thing. Yeah. Anyway,
I don't say that, don't sayyeah, that's it. I mean that's
phrasing, but a little save number. Yeah, have the open meat pie

(56:35):
as listen, all right, speakingthe savory Jeff Backlar, how's it going,
that's going well? I think Isay I'm hungry. I think I'm
hungry. Jeff, what's going on? Backlar? What's up? What you've
been up to? I've just beenplaying It takes two as as we mentioned,

(56:57):
But I would like a call forhelp here if I could just use
my time to be productive with helpingmy friends out play a new game.
We've been playing war Zone Slash Callof Duty for about a year and we
need a new game. And Iwould really like it if, if,
if the four of you and thegreater listening audience could help us rediscover a

(57:20):
thing. Now. I need toput in a couple of caveats here.
The people I play with roughly fourto eight people. They are not very
open in terms of expanding their horizons. They like action and they like shooty
stuff. Any major's order deviation offthat might be catastrophic. I would love

(57:45):
to play some fucking Arthhouse ship withthat. It's just not gonna happen a
lot of eight player arthouse games ifwe're being completely honest. Year, Well,
let's be honest, because I reallywant to play something new with these
with these dumb dumbs. So ifyou got a suggestion, throw it out
there, consider it a truck simulatorgame with the multiplayer mode turned on.
I just don't know if that's gonnabe the one that gets us out of

(58:07):
the of the multiplayer mold. Ohsee, Overwatch is not a bad one.
I know one of them used toplay Overwatch. I know he's bounced
off it, and I also thinkthat's what I'm talking about. Like I
even Overwatch, it's like such adeparture for really Yeah yeah, outride me.

(58:31):
Well maybe uh is that is amultiplatform? Yeah? And it's cross
platforms? Is it? See again, too many rules? I can get
it. I know this equation hastoo many restrictions. I apologize. This
is like a show. If Ihave friends, you're gonna say Project Winter.

(58:53):
Was gonna say Project Winter. ButI have friends who are very similar
to that. Like I tried toget them to play Overwatch and they absolutely
hated it. And they're like,no, We're back to Cold Battlefield and
that was it. Like no matterhow hard I convinced them, didn't matter.
But I did convince them to doProject Winter. There was some growing
pains. They weren't happy about itat first, but once we got going
and they understood what was happening,I think I would say a majority of

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them are enjoying it. Okay,that being said, the tutorial is is
kind of much like it throws alot at you, and it doesn't do
a great job of explaining. Sothat would be my biggest concern if you
were going to toss that to yourfriends and like prepare for this. I
appreciate that's helpful, backlark, Canwe can we sit and mull on this

(59:37):
one and come back to it.Of course, that's the point I don't
need. Yeah, I don't needthe answer. Now, Yeah, does
I want to go hit the firstbreak so we can get into the news.
So Alex, we could talk aboutall the news you pulled before you
have to go get They just haveto tell you what the news is during
the break he put it on thething. We could breathe it. So
we're gonna we're gonna take our firstbreak here. We'll be back in us

(01:00:00):
a little bit. Stick around andplay the music. Now, stick around,
folks, Hi, everybody, andwe're back. And if you're listening
to this, Alex Navarro's gone togo get his vaccine. Hopefully he's shot.

(01:00:22):
So it is just Lucy, Jake, Jeff Baclar and I here to
read the stories that Alex Navarro haspulled for this podcast, and as we
all scrambled to read them during thebreak, Jeff Backlar, what have you

(01:00:42):
go? What do you think Alexintended for this segment today? Well,
there's no way for us to knowthat. Okay, he's he's very secretive,
and there's really no way for usto know which one he intended to
do. First. All we cando is look at the list of stories
and just go in the order inwhich they appear. So, the first
one he has here, it says, and again, these are written by

(01:01:04):
Alex Navarro, performed by the Beastcast at large. Okay, that's okay,
first one he has ears another bigNo Man's Sky update dropped. This
is true, and he didn't justmake that up. There's this new patch
coming from No Man Sky Expeditions.I believe it is uh, and according
to this story that he linked,UH, this is going to put people

(01:01:25):
on a planet, a starting planet, and have them and it's gonna be
kind of seasonal, is what Ican gather from this and have them try
to get to a point in thegalaxy within that season. That's that's what
That's what I got from it.That's the kind of along with some other
stuff updates coming along with it.Yes, it's twenty twenty one, we're

(01:01:47):
still talking about No Man Sky.Congrats, no story here, isn't it
isn't stuff to it? Good forthem, They keep doing it right,
and do it one point right aroundthe corner. I'm the gift that keeps
on giving that. My friend isquite a low blow. I might say,

(01:02:08):
yeah, I would like to getback into No Man Sky at something
if they ever stopped, maybe I'llwait for the ultimate edition when they just
stop adding stuff to it. Isay this like every six months when they
say, and you make fun ofme of having canned responses, the fucking
I really want to get back intoSky is like the number one thing.

(01:02:29):
Like I want to get back intoshape too, you know all that?
That's right? Every six months,when the when I get when my Fitness
Pal red an update, like Ishould get back in the shape. I've
taken it one step further and I'veinstalled the game. Whenever there's a big
update, I install it. Iget in there, I walk around,
look at my ship, and I'mlike, all right, I don't know
what the fush and I just yep, that's it, and I uninstalled and

(01:02:53):
bounced. I haven't played it sincelaunch, which but I do enjoy seeing
how the sentiment has changed on it, and you know, Hello Games obviously
adding a bunch more to it.I just don't have it in me to
have another sort of ongoing game inmy life. Overwatch may not be getting

(01:03:13):
any updates, but it's still fillingthat void for me. Who do you
play as an Overwatch? Who's yourmain? I flex a lot? Okay,
I'm not well. I can't sayI'm I flex because I'm not a
good player, but I'm a flexplayer Diva, Moira, I'm playing a
lot of Mercy at the minute.Reaper. I used to play a lot

(01:03:37):
of Soldier, but I don't likethe recoil on his weapon now Sombra as
well, if I'm feeling annoying,which is a lot of the time.
How many characters are there now?One? Two? Haven't been a year.
It's been a year since they addedthe last one. Oh my gosh,
sixteen didn't launch for sixteen launch withabout over twenty I think twenty oh

(01:04:03):
no, sorry, I was itHero thirty. Let me stay or thirty
two craz Yeah, that's how manythey have now, but they're not adding
anymore until I've watched two and whothe hell knows? Right, I forgot
about for completely forgot there was anOverwatch two that those words were spoken once.
Jeff acklar what's next on the AlexNavarro news list. Okay, he's

(01:04:28):
got a thing here that says Cyberpunkgets another big update quote unquote, might
return to PlayStation soon. So thisone I was looking at. It looks
like Cyberpunk is getting some more patches, big patch yesterday. It seems like,
and here is the quote from theSVP of Business Development. We have

(01:04:49):
published several patches, we have justpublished a really big one yesterday, and
we have published several several hot fixes, each and every one of them just
closer to going back to the PSNstore. However, the final decision,
you have to understand, belongs toSony. This is definitely not talking to
the fans, is talking to Sony. We do believe we're closer than further,

(01:05:13):
but of course the final call istheirs. Yeah, final calls the
software runnable, Yeah right right,Sony's not returning my calls. I keep
leaving messages on their system. Theirinbox is full. Now, Sony,
if you're listening, this is theonly way I can communicate with you through
this release, this press release.Just put her game back on the store.

(01:05:36):
It's good now, it's fixed.Thank you, Sony. By.
We won't ask people to refund theirgame to you anymore. I promise I
won't do that. It wasn't meanyway, somebody else did it. Thank
you. Yeah. So Cyberpunk.That's the tale of Cyberpunk. Wow,
what a tale, what a journey. Really, there's the there's a there's

(01:06:00):
well mixed mix, there's a selfinflicted wound, and then there is the
not self inflicted wounds part. Andit's like, you know, they had
that breach and that kind of youknow, their stuff stolen, and then
they put out a game that waskind of a buggy mess. I don't
know, mixed is my feelings?Is that? I mean, I'm asking

(01:06:23):
this because I don't know are thosetwo things immediately related, like directly related,
like one to one kind of thing, which ones which which one?
The breach? The hack? Yeah, I mean I know that the quality
of their product, I mean,the quality of the final game as well
led to the hack. Right,people were disgruntled and yeah, breakin It's

(01:06:47):
it's a high profile game as well. I think would the hack have happened
if people were too busy playing agreat game called Cyberpunk. I don't know.
I don't know. I don't knowif I knew that. I don't
know if I knew that. Thatwas like a retaliation sort of thing.
It came after the game launched,right, ye did, But I think
it was in retaliation because they stolea lot of code. They stole like

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this the original code of the game, I think, and then tried to
sell it on the black market orsomething. I think they did it.
I thought they did sell it.I think they did. That game became
a balance Wonderland. It's weird thatwas the original. Uh that's what Cyberpunk
looks like when the bugs are notthere? Wow more, you know.
I will say I didn't play iton PS four since the update, but

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one of our co workers, JohnLuke did, and it's I don't think
it's any closer coming to PlayStation really, Like a lot of the bugs have
been sorted, but it's just likethe optimization is still pretty bad, Like
it's really framing. Uh. Youknow, character models still look like PS
one models until you get close andthen you wait for them to load in.

(01:07:58):
It's uh, it's not as die. But I just I don't see
that coming to at least PlayStation fouranytime soon. The PlayStation five version seems
to run great from what I've heard. Okay, I played it on PS
I mean I played half of iton PC and then they patched it in
My ten eighty said no, ohwow, yeah, I have a very

(01:08:19):
old break though, so patched yourcard out. That's fucked up. Well,
no, I don't think they did. I think I just also couldn't
be bothered to go in and fixall of the settings that I should have
done. I watched a Digital Foundryvideo and everything. I'm just gonna be
mothered to do it. And alsoI'm spend all day at this desk,
so if I can go play agame, sure in bed, my bed

(01:08:40):
two feet away over there, I'lldo it. And so I played the
rest on PS five and for themost part it was fine, but I
did get a lot of crashes.Like it was. It was fine for
me, but and you know,there are even there are bad games that
are on PSN. There are buggygames that are on PSN. There are
games I think, you know,I think it's probably because they said,

(01:09:03):
go demand a refund. Yeah,there's a little. I think it's not
just the patches. I think Ithink you have to patch. You tell
me there's another angle through this.I think it's uh, I think it's
you got to fix somebody's heart onthat. Oh yeah, because if you
look at some of the stuff onPSN. My favorite treasure trove on PSN

(01:09:27):
are the PS four Themes. Haveyou've ever been through those themes? There's
like a Princess Diana one you canbuy, no what it brings back memories
of like the three sixty when youcould get icons of like Carl Junior fry
boxes instead. If you're ever ifyou're ever a loss for something to do,

(01:09:49):
just take some time and go lookthrough the PS four Themes gallery.
It's a trip and you can buythem. Yeah, like two dollars or
four dollars. Yeah, really realto get the people's princess streams like a
good stream. I'm sure I'm sureyou've thought about it or done it.

(01:10:10):
Wow? Does say here on Alex'sThing after the princess die comment, go
to the next story. Wow,what else does he know? Holy shit?
For him, it's amazing. Hedoes do his homework. Yeah,
he does. He's thorough. He'sthorough. All right. Uh, let's
see what else we have here.He has a thing and he goes and

(01:10:32):
he goes. Call of duty WorldWar two Part do So can you do
that to a call of duty?Can you? Can you duty? A
duty? I don't know. Idon't know either. So backlard, do
you know what's going on here?Why am I? This is my like
the call of duty? Guy?I guess no, alre right, that's

(01:10:55):
fair, that's fair, that's fair. Uh I didn't. I didn't know
anything about this. This is areport, so you know that you're about
to read facts. Okay, that'swhat report colon means? Is that,
Uh yeah, thank you. I'mreading. I'm reading. I'm reading.
Slash Hammer's gonna develop the next callof Duty and it's gonna go back to

(01:11:17):
World War two, the the offand overlooked or anything about it. Yeah,
really a first for the for themedium in general. But here you
have it. World War two intwenty twenty one. Just turn. We

(01:11:38):
just heard boots on the ground.Okay, never stops. Weren't everyone weren't
ever changes, you know, likethat's what it is. Ok uh so
uh and then it's gonna you know, it's gonna tie in your war zones
again, as it should, becauseno, there's not enough room left a
on anybody's console and be on theyou. I think I know someone with

(01:12:01):
a stock Launch PS four and theonly game he has on it is Ze
Oh my god, because it's thefive hundred gig and that's it. Oh
god, that's all. That's allthey there can be. I mean,
look, I'm not making excuses.It's an absurd size. Seems like there

(01:12:21):
are other games that don't have thisissue. I don't know what you would
think. I guess the update doesn'teat a bigger update and they become one.
I don't know how I did seethe worst. It just had a
fifty gigabyte update. Yeah, iteats fifty gigabyte updates for Breakfast. I
mean, this thing is just like, come on, yeah, fifty fifty

(01:12:43):
gig update was something They're just like. They put more anime babe gun skins
in only three of them because that'swhat could fit in the fifty game.
I don't know, it's it's aridiculous the story of Call of Duty at
this point to me, is thesize call of duty? Yeah yeah,
but lady like that is that ismore impressive than than going to World War
two? Like going to World Wartwo is like is it Tuesday? But

(01:13:06):
the you know, them seeing ifthey can fix this monstrosity is really the
takeaway I think. I'll you know, I say this a lot, especially
when we started uh you know,uh Pandemic podcasting. This this go around,
this generation with with Modern Warfare wasthe first time ever in my history

(01:13:28):
of playing this game, which Iat least try every season every year,
but a full calendar year goes byand I'm still playing this stupid game.
So like they did something. Something'sgoing on. I don't know if it's
the combination of Pandemic games and youknow, playing with my my friends,
which you know was sort of theway that we were socializing in a way

(01:13:49):
that we had not before because wewere actually seeing each other in person.
I think it's this perfect storm ofthat sort of stuff. And then even
when Cold War came out and Iwasn't as sort of hot on the multiplayer
I kind of grew into that.Again, I don't know what it is,
and I still play that, soI did bounce off war Zone though
I'm kind of over war Zone.But that's my story. If you,

(01:14:12):
whether or not you inten you wantedto hear it. I mean, I
know nothing about you know, howhow you package updates, how how you
deploy that kind of stuff. ButI have a suspicion that the reason war
Zone is so obnoxiously big, it'sjust because there's so many characters. Like
they've got like forty characters from ModernWarfare, forty characters from Black Ops too.
They all have like Black Ops,whatever, Cold War they all have
different skins, and it's like thatthat's got to be part of it,

(01:14:35):
right, because when this launched,it wasn't as big, and they haven't
really. I guess they kind ofadded a new map, but that that
seems to be the culprit to me. It was and all that FMV man,
all that unskippable FMV and that's packedin there. I mean, like
when Overwatch gets an update, itdoesn't have to come over on that ship
that was in the fucking Suez canalright, It's just loaded onto that thing,

(01:14:58):
yea, Eric, I's a Callof Duty update looked out stuck?
Where is it stuck? In thecanal oh, which still hasn't had its
next gen update on PlayStation. It'shad on Xbox, but it hasn't got
it on no PlayStation. So thatmeans though I can keep it on my
external hot drive, because PlayStation fivestill can put fucking external hot drive to

(01:15:21):
puts five games on it. Okay. Alex also wrote, after sue es
camal Joe, move on to nexstory, okay, got it, got
it beats in his script here,you're right, okay, he goes he
would also like to do golf gamesagain. I feel like his editorial.

(01:15:42):
Let's agains. Okay, So let'ssee which is funny. Which is funny
because the only golf or the onlynew golf game in town I believe,
is the two K published one.Right, it's called like Golf two K
twenty one or something like that,or golf that was pretty good? Well
I mean yes, yes, I'mtalking about like PGA sort of themed golf,

(01:16:06):
yes, stuff licensed sort of stufftwo K two one. Correct,
In that game I disliked more thanI liked, But there will be a
competitor now in the form of EA'sSports PGA Tour. Okay, so we're
going to get the EA golf nowagain. They put a they put a

(01:16:30):
tweet out that says we're back inthe game. There it is that E
is famous motto. My favorite thingis the mother kind of going for the
FIFA crowd because they've used championship golfis coming home. What comes home?
Football's coming home. That's where theygoes. Maybe that's a brace thing.
I watched Ted Lasso. I understandwhat you're saying. I'm watching that now.

(01:16:53):
It's good, so so good.How does that show so good?
It should not be that good.It shouldn't. It's it doesn't make sense,
but it's great. Whenever there's likea trope about to happen, that's
like, oh, they're just gonnaadd drama. They avoid it and I'm
like, thank god, let's justkeep the good vibes coming. Somehow.
They just like slither along and you'rejust like, give me more of this.

(01:17:13):
Num I love every second of it. It's coming. Yeah, they're
filming it. I think right now, what's the show you guys are talking
about? Ted lassoed Lasso Vincent theyhave a FIFA tie in, don't they.
Coach Beard and ted Lasso are doinga FIFA thing. Oh that I
don't know. I saw a tweetand I was like, that's the only
thing that would get me interested inYeah, because their club was not a

(01:17:35):
real club, right Richmond, Richmond. No, Oh, isn't a real
club. I don't. I don'tknow. I only know the big ones,
and the little one I know isQPR because I went to a I
went to a home QPR game whenI was in England about six years ago,

(01:17:56):
and that was an experience seven yearsago something like that. Seven ago.
I haven't kept up with the football. I don't know much about it,
but but I understand ted Lasso,and I understand how FIFA works.
And now you can all I understandhow you like with the relegation all that
stuff. Yeah, what do youmean? Okay? Okay, I don't
feel like it's complicated. It is. It's not easy like that. And

(01:18:20):
actually they do a really good biton ted Lasso about it. How they're
like, so if your team isshit, you don't get to play for
the super Bowl, And it's like, exactly, how about that? And
I'm like they were like, yeah, Americans couldn't handle that shit, yea,
which is true, Like Americans can'thandle ties. It took ties out
of hockey. It should be tiesand hockey and we only have winners and

(01:18:40):
losers. Is this uh? Speakingof winners and losers? This says here
that the EA Sports PGA Tour willbe built on the company's Frostbite engine.
There you go, okay, mmm, so good luck. I don't like
shiny looking. I thought we werepast that. I thought we put frost

(01:19:01):
bite out and we're like, wecan move past. Frost Bite's good for
a couple of things, but wedon't have to make everything run on frost
bite. Wait, no, itdidn't e A have another engine just for
NBA. Did I imagine that thiswas from like an E three about five
or six years ago, and II feel like they had this other engine
thing they were talking about, andthen everything just got put in frost bite.

(01:19:24):
I don't remember, no, Iit sounds right. That's like that
Cress conferences or I just check out. Oh I remember hoop Got though.
Check out that it was the hoopGot engine. Everywhere I would give me
to buy it fed x cup.There's a fed x Cup and man,

(01:19:44):
wow, come on, you don'tknow about football clearly, Uh, you're
not a bowler. But they,yeah, there's well that's all like the
you know, the big name sortof championship tournaments. I don't they don't
have them. They have the Masters. I don't think that. No,
I don't know. Also, whenyou were talking about playing Mario with your
kids and like not having fun,this is PGA Tour for me. Ea.

(01:20:11):
Ea. PGA Tour is about havingfun. No, that was the
exact story with me and my dad. So my dad game a Dada Tour
or whatever. Oh, maybe itwas Microsoft Golf ninety five, and there's
a there's obviously the you have totime it so you get it in the
little white thing and then you anI, as a child with terrible reflexes

(01:20:34):
and no understanding of timing prompts,just kept fucking it up spectacularly, and
it got to the point where Daddyheld at me and I remember leaving,
Yeah, not in like a badway, It's just like fru straight,
like no, you didn't here,And I was just remember bursting into tears
and running upstairs. And he feltterrible. He felt terrible, and we
never played it again, and insteadwe played two rated together because that was

(01:20:57):
my game that I like. That'sso I feel like you won that one.
I don't want to play this golfgame anymore. It's time to cry.
That's right, yea onion wrapped ina tissue that it's just right.
And then upstairs is like, man, it's just just the copy of Yeah,

(01:21:19):
that's right, you're saying, youknow, I wish you'd just try
something I like for once. Let'sokay, we'll play your weird shoot tigers
game two Tigers jump in two Tigersgames. Well, there's a dinosaur here.
Cool? Cool? We we couldtry the golf thing again a little

(01:21:39):
yeah, if you want to ina little while. There's no dinosaurs in
this one. Okay, that's right. Can we spend just like thirty seconds
or maybe possibly way longer on thefirst tum Rador game? Real quick?
Oh you're talking about tum Rador one, right? You play that's the one?
Will you play a lot of tadone? But I think it was
two or three? It's a bitwet. I just I have the I

(01:22:00):
have the memory of getting the quadbike key, and we could never get
the quad bike key because we wereterrible at it, and my dad even
bought the strategy guide, the PremiusStrategic Guide, and she had the Obstacle
course in the back garden and whenyou loaded in the game, she would
go, welcome back to my humbleabode. Yes, I think that was
two or three. You know,I was thinking about my time with the

(01:22:25):
with those like I guess first threegames on PC back when, and like,
there's just something there is something thatthose games did that I'm still sort
of itching for. And I thinka lot of it is just like,
motherfucker, you're on your own,yeah, right, where it's just like
no objective title. It's just likewhatever whatever ledge looks flat. That's sort

(01:22:47):
of how you're gonna get through thiswhole thing. Can I just mishap feeling
truly isolated in a way where I'mjust like you know what I mean,
Like there's I don't I don't feelingtruly isolated. Actually, no, that's
what I loved about. Well,it wasn't like A. It wasn't like
A. I wasn't scared. Ienjoyed, but I felt like an adventurer

(01:23:09):
and I felt like, you know, we and I just there's something so
different about playing those games where you'rejust like, it's just like hide to
fucking lever somewhere that you would neverreally look. We would just be like
behind a rock in a corner somewhereand be like this is how I move
on, and it's like, yeah, but that was great. I don't
know if also also time to apoint where you're like, I've got one

(01:23:30):
game I'm playing for three months andlike it's okay if I don't find this
lever in twenty seconds, because maybetomorrow I'll find it, or after dinner
I'll find it, and well,that's great, my my lovely summer long
affair with this game is fantastic,and it's all I play instead of the
where the hell is this lever?This game is poorly designed. I need

(01:23:54):
I have to get seven other gamesplayed by tomorrow. It sounds like you're
mad at something else. I can'tquite put my finger on it. They
don't bubble up at the right time, and then they jump and the platform's
fall from underneath you, and we'rejust gotta get this stut. We just
gotta get three hundred and twenty stars, Jeff. If you want to spend
a lot of time looking for alever, I recommend Dark Souls. No

(01:24:15):
see Dark Soul like I Dark SoulsI can't do because that the difficulty for
me. It's just different, youknow, like right like, I just
have this memory, this very specificmemory. I don't remember which two Rater
game. It was all the undergroundcaverns of the first one I love,
but there was one maybe it wastwo or three, where you're in this
old broken ass theater and you're sortof like jumping around from balcony to balcony.

(01:24:42):
I remember entering the theater because thebeautiful thing about those games is you
would just sort of like crawl yourway through and all of a sudden you
would just like see this huge setpiece and you were there for like four
hours, and it was like thiswhole intricate sort of thing of a lot
of a lot of trial and error. And I definitely did look up stuff
eventually, just because you know,I just I probably hit my breaking point

(01:25:03):
at some point, but I missedthat. Not to say that, you
know, nothing scratches that is forme anymore, but I just want that
feeling again. So maybe I'm justit's a long way of me saying I
need to play that again and seewhat that's like. Or I don't know
why this is. This is therapyfor me, so you can build me.
Wait, so you are you talkingabout like you want to return to

(01:25:25):
a time without easily accessible like quicklyaccessible wiki guides essentially, because like,
if if I'm playing something, Iget stuck. I have so little patience
that I will just like maybe oryou just long for a time when you
were curious, you know, andyou would spend that time you had that
playful nature, you would spend thattime. I think you're I think it's

(01:25:45):
the ladder. I think it's acombination everything, but but the majority of
it is the ladder of what youjust said, of where you could just,
you know, just do the thing. That's why I like the newer
tomb raters that have those tombs wasa very big deal for me, and
I was very into that. Butagain, they kind of adhere to a
more contemporary design in a way thatthe older ones sort of just were like,

(01:26:11):
oh, sorry, you're on yourown there. It was like,
hey, this object is pain andred, it's probably going to be useful.
And then you push the object andit's like, okay, I think
I see what's going on here?Yeah, totally total. Do you reckon
that? There was a point inmaybe it's like the point in games that
we've never recovered from is when youknow, like detective Mode became a thing

(01:26:33):
right exactly where it's like, hey, this is sparkly shit mode. Yeah,
look at everything that shimmers. Youknow, you're right, that's what
it is. It's that layer.Well, I think the games also,
I appreciate some of this design.I think it's smart where they were,
you know, started making ledges,have you know, red moss on them
if you can climb them, orright, that's this this sheet over it,

(01:26:57):
and we can use dynamic lighting nowto put your path. But yeah,
shit, by this point you kindof know what colors games use,
right, like you know on chartslike yellow, you know, like certain
games are red white for Assassin's Creed. There you go, yeah, I
think that it Without that, Ifeel like too many people will get frustrated.
Yeah, like because you because youcould design, like you said back

(01:27:18):
then you look for the flat ledge. But now they make a wall look
like a wall, and if theyyou know, if you don't, so
Assassin's Creed has kind of gotten offof that right, and they just climb
anything. You're just Spider Man.You just climb, climb whatever you want.
You don't actually need to have acute ledge here. We're not doing
parkour anymore now, you're just doingSpider Man up a wall. And I

(01:27:38):
don't know if I enjoyed that moreor less. It's weird. I like
the what was it uncharted in thething where if your hand goes out,
if if he puts the hand out, then that's when you can jump.
And if it puts the hand inthe job. Yeah, that was all
right. I feel like Prince ofPersia had a queue as well. When
you would make a job, PrincePrince would do the same thing. Yeah,
okay, yeah, I don't know. Video video games. It's the

(01:28:02):
best time to be playing video games. You can still play those old games.
I know. It just felt likewe just it was a nice little
segment of putting on that warm littletomb raider blankets. Okay, I did
not play team I did not havea PlayStation at the time, so did
I. Yeah, that was notnot my wheelhouse. And like it was
just silent too. Those games havelike no there's no like ambient music.

(01:28:25):
It was just like dead ass quiet, like maybe a cricket every now and
then, you know what I mean. It was so fucking quiet, and
you're just like, yeah, Idon't know, I'm just I'm just having
a moment right now. Really areI love it? I love it.
I don't know. Fifth anniversary.There must be doing something. Yeah,

(01:28:45):
sending money giant Laura Croft statues again, that's uh okay, well, ye,
all right. I think that's itfor the news. Though. Wow,
there's this one last one. Ilied, there is this one last
one. Alex would like everybody togo watch the Dynasty Warriors trailer. I
watched it, and he's right,yea trailer it is. I would say,

(01:29:12):
the perfect trailer for a Dynasty Warriorsgame, Like I think they're knowing.
It looks like the game. Yeah, it looks like a lot of
fun. It looks it looks morefun I think for me than than the
game. But yeah, good jobnailing it. All right, should we
go, Jeff, unless you wantto talk about Tumba anymore. I think

(01:29:34):
we're gonna head into the email section. Yeah, I think I think we
could allow that. Yeah that'd begreat. Yeah, Okay, we're gonna
go uh, we're gonna go watchthem trailers for all right, We're gonna
take another quick break. We'll beback very soon. Let be fine the

(01:29:55):
thing that I've closed. Hold ona second, here we go, all
right, folks, we'll be rightback. Hold and we are back,

(01:30:15):
and we're just joining us. I'mhere. We're Jeff Bacalar, Jake Decker
and Lucy James, Jake and Lucyfrom Game Spots, Alex and Varro was
here earlier that is now getting vaccinated. Maybe yes, maybe not as we
uh, we're back and it's tidefor emails. If you have an email,

(01:30:35):
you can send it into beastcast atgiant bomb dot com. That is
beast cast that giant bomb dot com. Bacalar. Yeah, yep, you're
in that inbox. You're just readingeverything now, oh so real quick,
really, can I just let mejust do a thing here? So,

(01:30:55):
uh, as everyone found out,we found out last week. I got
access to the inbox. But thenthere were some weird things where I couldn't
directly reply, So so I wasgetting all these I told people to put
in brackets for Jeff that you knowit is for me, and then and
then you can expect what happened rightaway, but I couldn't reply, so

(01:31:16):
I felt handcuffed, But I thinkI found a work around. I just
want to clear the air that Iwasn't ignoring you. I just couldn't reply
right away. But now I thinkI sort of can, so I would
just feel better with everyone knowing thatthat's really all. I just want to
do a little bit of housekeeper andclear the air. This is not And

(01:31:39):
I'm also now able to see alot more of the emails that I said
at the top, that that criticizedyou, that you keep from me so
you don't have to see. Yeah, I usually don't. I usually don't
just directly send you the ones thatare that are like that are just yelling
at me for your personal keep piled. No, I don't. Right in

(01:32:00):
the interest of full transparency, itshould probably be a thing on Privy too.
But but yeah, now I can, and I will also see the
ones about like you know, thefun keyboard and hockey stuff and and all
that, and so thank you andkeep them coming, and not the ones
that criticized me, the one that'scriticized Jeff. Keep those coming. I
haven't seen that yet, but I'msure they're in there. I'm just saying
I haven't seen them yet. Theyare probably there, perhaps you know more

(01:32:25):
infrequent those don't say too Jeff atthe front. Oh, there's another mailbox
for that. Those are my personalkeep on. Anyway, last week we
were talking about the Snyder cut andSuperman and the whole business and my my
thoughts on Superman and and we sharedthose a bit. There problems making a

(01:32:51):
movie with Superman. Boy, that'sa super powerful superhero. How do you
make a movie where you have asuperhero who could do anything? So we
got some nice emails that came indescribing Superman. I thought this one from
Mike was actually, I really likethis one, so I'm gonna read it.
Mike says, this probably won't beread on the show. You're wrong,

(01:33:12):
Mike, I'm gonna read it.I want to share my thoughts on
Superman. Superman's greatest strength is restraint. He can punch you to death or
burn you with his eyes, buthe doesn't. He's not dumb. He
believes people can be good and givesevery opportunity for them to do so.
The Superman has a video game doesn'twork because restraint is not flashy or exciting.

(01:33:35):
You can't get a game made withthe whole pitch being you have all
the power, but you don't useit. Superman teaches us that being a
good person and using what power wehave to help rather than harm makes everything
better for everyone. Again, that'snot cool or exciting, but it's why
I like him. I thought thatwas very sweet. Yes, that is

(01:34:00):
the best Superman defense I've ever heard. Yeah, I thought that was good.
I don't think it's really moved theneedle for me personally, but I
but like if I was invested in, there was no looking back and I
was all in on Superman, likeI would wear this on my chest too,
because that is a very lucid,is a very reasonable defense of Superman.

(01:34:26):
So well done. Thank you forthat, Miche really well written.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, itmade me rethink having to write for a
Superman book or comic or movie andthink about, like, how how you
would do that with restraint and makethat exciting, you know. I mean,
if you haven't read red Son,because that's funny Superman Superman red Son

(01:34:48):
is I've not read a lot ofSuperman, but I love with Greg Miller
and he adores Superman, Like Ihave Superman stuff all of my room because
this, you know, like someof the stuff that he's just he used
to be. He used to behis Superman room and then I moved in.
But Clark Kent motherfucker. Yeah,he recommended reads on and that's you

(01:35:11):
know, what would happen if Supermandidn't land in America and he landed in
the USSR. And so that tome was like the only interesting Superman story
that I've ever really read, exceptwhenever he's crossed over with Batman, I
guess because you get to see himthrough the lens of Batman. But I've
never been interested in just like solelySuperman stories. But now with Mike from
Texas is very good, I mightgive it it. I might give him

(01:35:34):
a shot. You know, yeah, I see more, see more room,
because that's the thing. He alwaysfelt like such a two dimensional character
to me, because oh, he'sthe good he goody who can kill you
if he wanted to, right,He's just a big nerd. Yeah.
I think they make a good pointtoo about like why it wouldn't work in
games. But I'd be really curiousto see a good Superman movie because I
feel like there hasn't been one ofthose in a very long time, And

(01:35:56):
I feel like if you stick tothis idea, you could probably make a
good movie. Because you know theplayer is not in control of a movie,
you can kind of write the characterhow it should be written. So
I'd be curious to see how thatwould go tried in that Man of Steel.
Man of Steel was they did andthen just stuff happened that movie.

(01:36:18):
I mean, at some point,you gotta have Superman unleashing the Superman.
It's well, that's the big screamingand going on a rant is why you
hire Alpaccino. But you gotta haveSuperman do the power. Otherwise those are
two very similar things. Put Alpaccinoas Superman, put out acco Superman that

(01:36:41):
Tracy yelling, and Superman unleashed.I got it back. Do you want
to take this next one? Here? About t sure? I have an
argument with my wife that I lovefor the crew to settle Hello. I
was just gonna say, oh,I love how Ted lasts. Oh oh,

(01:37:02):
it's so funny. I tried toword the options as to remain impartial.
When you make tea via a teabag, do you one place the
bag in the hot water, givingit time before removing it and drinking.
Or two, place the bag inhot water and immediately squeeze it like a

(01:37:23):
monster before discarding it. Happy passover, You know what kind of feel
like? The opinion was not it'snot really discussing very well here. But
there's only one correct answer, andwhat is it? Losing it is?
I'm so number one. You putyou you boil the kettle, You get

(01:37:44):
your cup or your mug, youput the tea bag in it. You
wait for the kettle to boil.Actually, if you're a real pro,
you've got one of those kettles thathas different temperatures for different types of teas.
Because it's also a secret because sometimesyou can scald stuff if you put
it in in the temperature it's toohot. So you then pour the boiling
water on the tea bag. Youlet it steep minimum two minutes three if

(01:38:08):
you are looking for some builders tea, and then you gently squeeze the tea
bag, take it out, putyour milk in. The ideal color for
a cup of tea is the colorof he man's skin. Man. I
learned that from Tomorrohussain, and itis never it's never stayed me wrong.
Is that just like orange? Yes, it's like that, like slightly orange

(01:38:30):
e. But it's the exact colorthey would use in the cartoon. That
is the color that you want yourtea to be. I don't know,
somebody, it's not quite there yet. I've gone too far. And so
I like a flat teaspoon of sugar, not a heap. That does that

(01:38:55):
mean? Just like a little flash, a little smack of sweet? So
okay, So when I make mytea, I throw the tea bag in
the mug and then I put thesugar in while the tea's I pour the
sugar in at the bottom while thetea want the water is boiling because I
figure, oh, when I pourthe water in there, it's gonna stirt

(01:39:15):
all around. And then I pourthe water in, uh, And then
I pour the milk in, andthen I hope for the best and don't
use a spoon to stirt. Isthat is that legitimate? I mean,
who wants the dirtiest spoons? That'ssuch a waste. But that's why they
call it a tea spoon because youdon't have to wash it because you use
a fee. Oh yeah, it'slike but I you know, like you

(01:39:40):
know, kind of leave it outon the counter and then use it again
for the right. I mean youcan do whatever you want. Yeah,
I mean, grow up, youdo whatever you want. My pink,
my pinky and the tea. Soyou do a squeeze and that gets all
the that's the final until squeeze gentle. It has to steep, you know,

(01:40:02):
yeah, two that time. Well, so in the UK office,
we have whenever I'd be there whileI was there for like five years.
But I don't know, I'm stayingin a weird way, but we would
do it where it's like we'd getin, have our morning meeting and then
you use the tea break. Thetea break is a sanctified thing in the

(01:40:26):
UK. You have the tea break. You chat with everyone and while you're
waiting for your tea to brew,that's when you're catching up. That's when
you're chatting, and then you makeyour tea. You go back to work
and you've got a nice drink withyou and then you do the same thing
again at like three pm, whichis like when you're flagging in the afternoon,
you've got no energy, you goand have a little tea break and
you get reinvigorated for the last couplehours of a day. So, was

(01:40:50):
there like a like a hot waterdispenser so people don't have to boil water,
you just kind of fill up yourIt's funny you say that. We
actually got in trouble with facilities becausethey did have a hot water one of
those hot water taps, but itwasn't hot enough for tea. Oh and
we got kettle. We actually gottold off for having a kettle because of
health and safety, an electric kettle. Yeah. And yeah, like technically

(01:41:14):
we weren't allowed like a like atoaster. Wait, there was a toaster
in our office. I know wehad it there illegally, Yeah, because
we had like the toaster oven aswell, really illegal toaster oven. Yeah,
that was a hot toaster. Yeah, but that toaster was hot crime.
It was a crime. Really,it was like some I'm pretty sure

(01:41:38):
it's like some sort of like oceantoaster crime. I'm so glad no we
ever came into our studio. We'dall be in prison. The things look
we had in Chow Like, I'mactually mad at myself that I didn't take
like the kitchen aid big mixer thingthat was just there. And then I
went in. I went in toshoot the PlayStation five unboxing, and someone

(01:42:01):
had taken it. I was like, damn it, Like everything else was
still there and the kitchen mix hadgone. I was like time, Oh,
you don't remember, like twice amonth you'd see Eugene run into the
kitchen with the blanket and he's justhe's just going. Everybody about this bagel

(01:42:23):
toaster. First of all, Idon't think i've every ten run anywhere.
But second I don't remember that.No, that's funny. Well look,
look, bagels, what are yougonna do? People aren't going to toast
their bagel. Nope, They're gonnaput it in the microwave and get a
moist, soft ass bagel. Ibut that's going. Now, what are

(01:42:45):
you not putting it in the toaster? I mean, I listen, I
could go for an untoasted bagel.That's I have a tea question. I
feel like I gotta get them allout now. So I'm not against tea.
We're ass. I was like,oh, scarbage water hating, right,
I think, But I feel liketea is not strong enough for me
the way like I love really darkdark? Are you just let it,

(01:43:10):
you just let it steep longer.So is there like different like caffeine sort
of like situations there? And Ialso remember I drank a lot of tea
when I was over there, andI put a lot of milk in my
tea. And that's cool, right, I wasn't fine people people will turn
the nose I put you if youput milk in for some reason, Earl
Gray. But I actually like abit of milk in my elk Gray.

(01:43:32):
I think that's what John Nupicad did. Okay, that's fine. All I'm
not sure on steep time versus caffeinelevels though. All right, next time
we'll talk and we'll figure. Okay, how about Okay, now I have
tea questions too. There am Iam? I gonna be arrested because I

(01:43:54):
keep the tea bag in my teawhile I drink it. No? Is
that cool? I mean it's notthe done thing. Sounds like a sounds
like a faux paw. I meanif you if you look in you know,
like a Debrett's Etiquette Guide or something, you would probably be Yeah,
that's what I'm cast Okay, Solike if I like it, would I
be kicked out of the queen's likeparlor or billiard room. I mean,

(01:44:16):
I don't know why you'd want tobe there in the first place. The
queen's parlor, I mean she you'rerobbing the queen. I mean, she's
robbing the tax players. One ofmy boot it. Now, I'm just
a real deep I'm not a royalist. I my my stepmother was like,
oh, how do you feel aboutHarry and Meghan getting married? And I

(01:44:36):
was like, I don't care.We like Harry probably keeps his tea bag
in this cup? N Can youcan you make two back? Can you
make two cups of tea with onetea bag? You can? But it's
not ideal, Okay, really hardthe second time student ramin. That's okay,

(01:44:57):
that's grill. What you want isyou if you're making it for multiple
people, you want to get anice little teapaw going and then how many
okay is there a? Is therea ratio? Okay? But then you
need like loose tea and you gotto measure it and just put like three
tea bags in Okay, Okay,okay, okay. Can I just put
them in an electric kettle and justdump dump tea bags in there? No?

(01:45:18):
Why not it's just all boiled water. Yeah. I mean, this
is how British I am, isthat I've never even considered I come on
your show as a sign of goodfaith between our countries. Me like this,

(01:45:43):
I just shoved the tea bags andcoffer grounds right in the old electric
kettle. I mean, at leastyou know, like using the hot tap.
No, no, that's not inJersey. That'll it'll make you sick.
You gotta filter that stuff. That'swas not expecting an international incident,
but here we are. God,I'm sure you've seen it, but Tomore

(01:46:05):
sent me a TikTok of this womanmaking tea and like, I don't know
Texas or something, and it isI know nothing about tea, but I
was disturbed just on another level,like the amount of sugar, Like what
was being is so hard to watch. I've seen, I've seen the one
you're talking about. I got tofeel like she's doing it for a Russell.

(01:46:26):
She's doing it for a Russell.You know, she's doing it just
to get just get the clicks.It was like more sugar than like I
think she just makes it with likelike lipped in or something like that.
It was yeah, uh Lucy,what's your favorite tea? Oh, Gray,
Yeah, that's my that's my favorite. It's because it's got like a
nice little you know, it's goodfor any time of day. I have

(01:46:47):
a cup before beda is it nocaffeine and that's a little bit, but
it's you know, that's the one. The night tea is the one.
I'll like put more milk in justyou know, it's like a nice little
interesting things. It would it wouldtake me a while, I feel like
to get used to all the caffeinestuff because now I feel like I'm in
a good place with what I need. Out of my coffee, you can

(01:47:09):
get decaf tea. The t Idrink is decalf. My little peppermint too
that he's more fun teeth, hecan wear more hats, I feel like
than coffee. Can. I usetea a lot now as just like I'm
like kind of hungry, but Ishouldn't have a snack. I'm just gonna
have a cup of tea. Andif you eat your teeth, I do.
I just eat the bag and thenpour the water in my hot water

(01:47:36):
and then I assume that's what theydo in the UK. That's how I'm
doing it. H Jake, whydon't you take this one from Cameron here?
It's the one if you're on thedock Heavy Industries. Yes, these

(01:47:56):
crew. This week, I've beenwiring on a building with sorry this week,
I've been wiring on a building withhigh ceilings that has necessitated the use
of a scissor lift and the dangthing and god and dang hasn't hasn't been
fun using it? Whoa I likecannot read out loud, so you're gonna
have to bear with it. Okay. If you all could own your own,

(01:48:18):
if you all could own our owngeez, if you all could own
our operate and a piece of heavyequipment for a week, what would it
be, Alex No easy tractor trailercop out answer Cameron, if you understood
that basically, like the skill youget used to is editing on the fly
at some point of just okay thatthat is not what this person meant.

(01:48:42):
That's all right. I'm just gonnakeep going. Yeah, heavy heavy equipment,
Jake, you got something you justwant to use for a week,
Just a big old oh man.I feel like I've thought about this before,
but nothing is coming to my head. Like I've gone past things and
seen him like, yeah, Iwant to drive that, but yeah,
like that looks badass, let medo that. I want to try one
of those wrecking ball those old schoolball things like that you swing the ball

(01:49:06):
and hit a brick wall. That'sexactly what I was thinking. How do
you even like the wrecking ball things? Seems so impossible to maneuver. You
have to wind it up because you'renot even jot it over and then just

(01:49:28):
wait for the swing. Right ifit's just like the ball, did you
like move the arm and then thething just does Is that what you're doing?
I think you're just yeah, you'rejust like are you doing that?
I think it's just physics. Ithink you're just like, this is a
very heavy ball attached to a chain. I couldn't lift this with my arms,
so let's have a machine do itand then swing swing it at this
wall. Do they even use themanymore? Like? I don't know,

(01:49:49):
if I don't know, But whenyou think about it, it's like wrecking
balls are stupid, Like thet noI understand, but like the whole Like
I feel like there's a lot ofresponsibility in using one of those things,
and all it is is a bigold concrete ball on a dangly chain.
That's scary, Like, would yoube better off starting after the building and

(01:50:10):
doing a full circle you really getthat thing wound up and just smashing it
into the wall, you know,like a like a hammer throw kind of
thing, like be in the middleof the building and just did you spoil
it round? Yeah, i'd begood. I'd like that, or just
make the ball explosive and just youknow, just why have the ball?
Why might not just have it explodeeach time? That sounds fun. This

(01:50:32):
is why they won't let me anybodyelse have any heavy machinery fantasies they want
to get out here on the show. I'll tell you I'd never want to
operate a crane because I feel likeI've done that in every game. It's
like the crane puzzle. I wouldn'twant to do that. I think maybe
like a train would be kind ofcool. Does that count though, I
don't think that counts. Yeah,hell yeah, hell yeah. Yeah.
You can do some damage with thetrain, yeah for sure, But I

(01:50:53):
feel like, as long as youknow enough, it's probably hard to fuck
that up too much. I don'tknow. I'm never driven a train maybe
it is easy to mess up,but you know, you're you're on a
track. You can't like crash intothings. Oh you can you can jump
out? Oh yeah, alright,that'd be fun, but yeah, avoiding.
Yeah, There's there's a place inthe UK called digger Land that I

(01:51:16):
was always very sad that I nevergot to go to where you could operate
small diggers playground. There's one inthe States too. We took ours there.
Was it magical? Is it everythingyou thought it could be? You
race little forklifts, like instead ofgo karts or little forklifts and you could
like race them around the track.Yeah, it was awesome. Hey,

(01:51:39):
turns out it is fun, wellwhen you're not like having to do it
for a job, you know,and like you know, at thirty five,
don't have a broken back from likehaving to do all that labor.
But like, yes, it isoperating those machines and digging a hole with
the with the giant front end diggerthings. Yeah, man, that's pretty
fun. I'm watching watching being aroundconstruction sites somehow around them a decent amount,

(01:52:04):
and watching people do the right thing, and then watching people who've done
it for years not do the rightthing. Because they know they know what
the limits are of the thing isalso kind of amazing. I'm like,
oh, no you should. I'mnot sure you're supposed to be putting that
thing down to lift the front ofyour thing up in a weird, weird
way so you could, like youknow, basically do endos with your your

(01:52:27):
bulldozer. That seems like not theintended use of this those man, May
we ever do a forklift in likelike have to get pallets with a forklift?
No? No, it seems likeI I'm always I understand it's it's
all physics space, but though allthat seems precarious in a way that I
don't like. You know, whenyou just see a pallette going up,

(01:52:49):
like I've had a fair fair amountof pinball machines over here, and like
here's bringing the very small and yoursnow sixty feet up in the air.
They put weights I think on back. I think they literally have weights on
the back of those things that don'ttip forward. What the actual forklift?
Yeah, because I mean but there'salso like the hand cart one, you

(01:53:09):
know, because like I said,when I get like a pinball machine,
year like little pump, it's justlike real casual, and then I'm just
like, wow, that's three hundredpounds. You're just moving around with your
pinkie there and that's no, no, no, I don't know. Yes,
I would like to do some sortof demolition thing. I want to

(01:53:30):
knock the stuff over with some coolstuff. Yeah, some tear down that.
I like that stuff. That wouldfeel fun. I think, all
right, Lucy, do you wantto take this one from Andy? Sure?
My wife and I went to aSpanish market yesterday. When she asked
an employee something in perfect Spanish,she responded in kind, and they talked

(01:53:55):
for a few minutes and then saidgoodbye. I stood there confused. When
my wife asked me, what's up? I responded, you speak Spanish.
Why didn't you ever tell me that? She responded nonchalantly, and I quote,
huh, I guess you never asked. We have been together for fourteen
years. She is from Italy andspeaks Italian and English. Never knew that
she spoke that she spoke Spanish.What is something surprising about your significant others

(01:54:18):
that didn't come out for a longtime That your your wife is a spy.
Your wife is an international spy andshe has been not telling you fourteen
years, fourteen years, fourteen yearshasn't come up? Fourteen years? Has
it just not just not come up? There's where I don't understand where you're

(01:54:41):
from, Like, how is Spanishnever a thing where we live? Spanish
is incredibly flue popularly. I meanI don't in the UK. Maybe maybe
in the UK Spanish isn't as popular, say like French. To look over
fourteen years, this is a reallylong time. Could you imagine you're just

(01:55:04):
so you turn on, they're justspeaking the hole different, like you had
no idea that they spoke perfect.I'm sorry that that is fucked up.
Yeah, that's the only reason Ipicked this email. I don't have it.
Nobody has a thing. Nobody hasthe thing. Nobody Andy. I
would pay money to see the lookon your face when you turned to her

(01:55:30):
and said you speak spat. Ohmy god, is that amazing? That
must have been amazing. Also,like that is there is there anything else
in there? Yeah? Is yourwell? I let's seeking your wife.
Enough questions. I can kill him, kill a man in three seconds with

(01:55:55):
the paper clip. I'm I'm trainedin bow staff, sword, sigh,
uh nunchucks. Let's see. Ican survive poisoning. I know that one.
Don't ask me how uh like?And don't don't look under the third
floorboard in the bedroom. Yeah,I never never go in there and never

(01:56:19):
look under there. I think thatabout covers its. What's your name again?
Andy? Andy? That about coversit. Andy. It's great.
Yeah, that's likenstairs. And she'sspeaking German perfectly right. I don't know.
She's watching anime without subtitles. Yeah, enjoying it first of all,

(01:56:40):
you watch anime, second of all. Talking to me, and I was
like, that is wild. That'sgreat. But I wish, I wish,
I wish there were something for fourteenyears that I could spring on my
wife. Be like, you didn'tknow, you didn't know? You didn't

(01:57:01):
you didn't know. I didn't makea blow glass. Yeah, you didn't
know this this whole time. Iwas just in the basement. What do
you think I'm doing that? Intheir podcast? No, I made this
lovely unicorn for you? Yes,yes, I make bobs. How did
you not know this? It's beentwenty years? Well, yeah, I
don't smoke weed, but I makebombs. It's two years, four years,

(01:57:26):
Okay. I will say my partnerhas never had soda, doesn't know
the taste of coca cola, Like, yeah, has never doesn't know the
taste of coca cola, has neverhad soda, has just avoided it her
entire life because she just thought itseemed gross and didn't like that that condensation
happens on the paper cups and justdidn't have it at all. And I

(01:57:48):
was like, well, she's gota point there, but yeah, it
is weird. Yeah, I'm nota fan of that, but like I
don't have so much anymore. Butlike, I like, I don't know
how to explain coca cola flavor tosomeone who's ever had no cool, Like,
how do you explain that? Yeah? But like okay, okay,
that's very hard to do because it'sit is kind of like a poison,

(01:58:08):
right, and like wow, butit is you can get used to it
and it's bubbling and it's funny.But if you were with that partner for
fourteen it's different because I have notand you went to a restaurant one day
and you're like, I'll take acoke two cokes and we're like I've never
had soda that I'd be like,wait really, and then then you just

(01:58:29):
flash back, like like the MarveledUniverse intro, soa yeah, right,
and they're just like having like awater or something to be like, I,
I guess you haven't fourteen h Yeah, that's that's I mean, it's
wild. But I feel like I'vemet people who claim, I mean,

(01:58:54):
I believe this person. I believeI haven't had soda. But I feel
like I've come into contact with peoplewho are like, yeah, never never
got around to trying a banana,you know, and you're just like,
how does that happened? I mean, the sort of thing I think is
a more believable sort of thing,for sure. Yes, that is dan
right, And the scene never hada grape. Really, it never occurred

(01:59:15):
to me the opportunity. I didn'tknow you could eat them. I didn't.
I didn't know that they were justsetting their decoration on tables. Tried
one once, it was plastic,just thought they were all all right back.
Why don't you take this last onehere? Because I only because I
thought it was funny. Okay it'sfrom Jonathan. Yeah, okay. Since

(01:59:40):
the pandemic started, I've noticed thatlots of streamers wear hats on camera.
I don't know anyone who wears ahat when they're just lounging in their own
home. So I'm wondering, whatis it about streaming at home that brings
out the headwear? Worried about messyhair accessorizing to look nice for the audience.
Do you guys wear a hat it'sin your house when you're not on
camera. I cannot imagine that Jeffand Vinnie were wearing hats for nearly five

(02:00:04):
years of Beast casting every week whenyou were all still in the office.
Well, Jonathan, we had alittle hat rack next to the Beast cast
and we all put on hats beforewe did the show. I think everyone
has their own that is true,number one. I think everyone has their
own personal reasons for the hats.For me, uh, well, I

(02:00:29):
just don't have a lot of hairanymore, and I hate that a lot.
And uh I wear a lot.I've always been a big hat persons
tons. Yeah, I would,but not every Thursday when we record the
Big when I had more hair.Here's the thing. When I had more
hair, I wore less hats.Is how that went. So yeah,

(02:00:55):
I mean, you know, Ijust got a I just got a haircut
the other day, and I reallytook a lot off, and it's kind
of the move from here on out. Okay, you're in it. I
didn't shave it. I didn't doyour thing, which you look right that
way very much. I appreciate it. I uh, you know, it's
not fun. I don't it's butanyway, I but I do, like

(02:01:16):
I think hats on on you know, stream or camera what we want to
call it, they had a nicefun dimension to the whole thing. A
part of me is also like,yeah, I'd probably rather not wear one,
though I feel like I need towear it because it's just makes me
feel more comfortable being on camera.That's the story. I am not a

(02:01:40):
hat person at all. I startedwearing the hat because my headphone band is
disintegrating, so on my headphones,the inner band. Basically, this is
a protection thing for lex on myhead. Did you just wear it when
you record your recording? Hat?So I started off just wearing it when
I record. Otherwise I was likejust like brushing flex out of my hair

(02:02:03):
all the time. And then uh, at some point I just got used
to it and I was like,oh, it's just I don't wear like
hats like. I don't know why, but I take hats off when I
go in buildings. I'm like,weirds. Yeah, it's religious. So
I'm extremely religious, and I willnot wear hats inside because I need God
to see my head. No,I don't know. I just I just

(02:02:25):
don't wear them inside, and Idon't wear them when i'm I don't wear
them when we eat dinner. Ithink I'm because I'm superstitious, and I
know it's like one of those thingslike I didn't do. And then I
then I'm like, well, ifI if I wear a hat when I
eat this meal, it's clearly aplane will crash through this house. So
no, that, oh that soundsmore like old school like manners sort of

(02:02:45):
thing. Maybe we're like, yougo exactly like, oh, you're at
the dinner table, pick off yourhat. What do you do? Somebody
told me that? Okay, somebodysomebody told me that you can eat hot
food if two people have been servedat the table. Is that any ever
heard that before? Because I waswaiting to eat at dinner. Is that
a true thing? There's this misconceptionthat if you are at dinner with the

(02:03:08):
queen, you can't like, youcan't eat until everyone until she's been served.
I was like, you can't eatuntil everyone's been served. But it's
actually like if you have hot food, you can start. It's if you're
all eating cold food, you can'tstart. Okay. So I usually do
the thing where I try to waitfor everybody to be served, and and
somebody said eat, and I waslike, wait, well, use your
hat. It's a little food walmant. I took it off at the dinner

(02:03:30):
table. I don't know it's gone. It's probably still in the you know,
the queen. It's in the hatroom. I assume she has pola.
It's in the hat wing, ina little round box, waiting for
me to come back. Yeah,I uh, I sorry. I don't
normally wear hats, but now Ikind of do, and I think,
uh. I was almost thinking aboutgetting a different hat. And I actually

(02:03:53):
had to wash this hat. It'sa first I ever washed the hat.
And I don't know, since I'mnot a hat person, what do you
do with it? Do you chuckit in the law machine? No?
No, no, I got washer. I use bush and just scrubbed it.
Oh that's that's that's okay. Whydon't you just scrub that scrub a
hat? I have one of thoselike plastic mold things that I and I

(02:04:15):
throw it in the washer. Okay, So do hats not have cardboard brims
anymore or no? They usually havelike I want to say, plastic,
sort of plastic. Yeah, Ithink it buries by hat. But yeah,
yeah. I actually started wearing hatsa lot during the pandemic too,
because I just couldn't get a haircutand my hair started to get wild and
dealing with it before being on cameras, similar to you guys, Like,

(02:04:36):
I was just like, I'm justgonna throw a hat on, make it
easy. Yeah. Then I kindof stopped because someone said that I'll lose
my hair quicker if I wear hatstoo much, and like I'm already like
see like looking at the lines,I'm like, all right, no more
hats. I gotta just get myhair cut and make it last time.
I don't know if that's I probablyknow. I didn't know research at all.
I just heard it and I waslike, all right, I'm all

(02:05:01):
your hats. No, but thatis a thing too, right, Like
uh, you know, you knowyou're going to the office, you know,
and you get I don't even wearjeans anymore, right, So like,
you know, I'm not getting readyto go into the office, where
I would maybe dress a little nicer, and a hat doesn't always compliment that

(02:05:23):
sort of you know, style,so it would be more of, you
know, when we wear a hatwhen you're working from home, it's sort
of just like I woke up,I'm not really caring about anything right now,
let's do it. Let's do apodcast, you know. But I
feel generally, yeah, bucy,do you ever wear hats? Is what
I want to know? Uh notindoors. I have a very small head,

(02:05:44):
so you know, hats just don'tnever really been part of the equation.
I did go on holiday to JoshuaTree recently, and I had a
hat that I wore outside because I'velost my sunglasses, like a book cap
or like, uh like the capand it's got a cute little smiley face
on. It's just a little nicewhite hat. And oh, I think

(02:06:05):
it's because the only hat that Ihad was a remedy hat that they sent
me. Okay, my partner waslike, I'm getting you another hat.
Ever, walking around with Alan wakeon, your hats are weird, I
feel like a weird They are weird. I feel like I had I can

(02:06:28):
I can go pick two hats andone will look totally fine and one will
make what I look. I'm like, I just look like a dufus this
hat. This I don't know whatthis hat's doing, what geometry or what
impossible angle. This hat has nowmade my head look a completely different shape.
So yeah, it's I don't know, like it became particular bad hats
too, there's like two hats inthe world. Yeah, you you like

(02:06:51):
that is definitely a thing. Youneed to find the hat that fits you
then, yes, makes you feelgood for sure. I also do like
the fact that hats are very muchnow ingrained in fashion in a way that
I don't think they have been.Oh, They've always sort of been.
They always like they always happened.Of course, if you think, like
who's seen a photograph taken in thethirties where like everyone wasn't wearing a hat,

(02:07:13):
I get it, Like that's that'sdefinitely a thing. But I'm talking
about, like, you know thisnow, hats. I don't think they
ever went away, but they definitelyseem to be much a part of contemporary
fashion for sure. Sure, becausepeople were streamer kids, they were in
haffs when they streams it's right anyway, trendsetters, that's not we're hot influencer.

(02:07:34):
We are. We're gonna, I'mgonna, We're gonna get out of
here. We're gonna end this podcast. There was a correction. We got
a lot of them in Oh gosh, I'm not gonna do it. Oh
gosh, because it's long, butit was very nice. We got a
lot of corrections about the Snyder Cutand its formats and how movies are filmed.
Uh. And it was actually areally great correction. We got about

(02:07:55):
one hundred of of these in reallyenlightening some of our audience and their p
pfessional. Yeah, it was allthree years and that was and how you
know it's it's actually a little morecomplicated, and you know, it is
filmed on this format and then ithas cropped into like seventy different formats for
the different destinations and who knows whatthe original intent was and all this stuff.

(02:08:15):
But it was good. Uh.And when I picked us from Kevin
to thank you Kevin for sending itin butts, We're gonna get out of
here because I think Jeff Gersman isgonna stream some baland Wonderland. If you're
watching this live, so God blessthem, take your hats off for Jeff
Gersman streams some baland Wonderland. Iwant to give him all the time in
the world for that. So beforewe get out of here, Jake and

(02:08:39):
Lucy, anything going on in gameSpot that's uh, this is this is
your chance to pitch. What's goingto start? Lucy. Sure, I'm
working on a weekly show called ConsoleCrew. We were talking about the kind
of ins and outs games after docweekly podcast. I mean, other than
that, my big thing is I'mgoing to the UK for a few months.
But oh yeah, that's why wedidn't even mention that. Well that's

(02:09:01):
a big topic. Yeah, justjust heading nowhere there for some fun.
It's it's been a whole situation andI'm still I'm still working a game Spot.
I'll still be on everything. I'lljust be doing it from the UK
and not in San Francisco. Ileave in three weeks, so wow,
a lot of packing to get done, a lot of admin stuff. I

(02:09:24):
just found out that Venmo doesn't workunless you're both physically present in the US,
so I got to figure that one. Yeah, So there's just a
bunch of stuff going on like thatreally in my personal life. But I'm
on Twitter at Lucy James gabs.Okay, okay, yeah, I mean
I think the big thing is justGame Spot after Dark, just Game Spots

(02:09:45):
podcast. We record Wednesdays, goesup Friday. We don't do it live,
but if you've got questions, youcan send that to Wait. You
record Wednesday and it goes up,so you have a whole data process.
Yeah, I give it a day, don't give Jake? What if?
What if news happens on Thursday andthen it's like like when Last of Us
got delayed, it was like,oh and Last of Us Scotty whatever,

(02:10:11):
that's amazing. I don't know ifit's idea, but you know that's not
that's good. It's an idea.I love it. Oh Man's mind,
this whole world of possibility has thisand the tea forget it, Go get
my tea bag. It's showing upmy mouth. Okay, Well, best

(02:10:33):
of luck to both of you.Uh and Lucy good luck with the packing
and the move. Yeah, that'sfine. I'll be back. It's like
Lucy James will return, Yes,Oh, visas the backlard. What do
you got going on nothing anything great, Have any time to find the movie
you next week? No, Igot nothing really happening here. I'm gonna

(02:10:56):
be doing some keyboard streams real soon, figuring out all the logistics of building
that up, because let me tellyou something, if you thought it was
complicated streaming live pinball keyboards are likeas complicated in a lot of ways.
Yeah, I would not assume that. Maybe pinball is a little more complicated.
But yeah, it's uh, it'sit's a chore. But I'm getting
there. Is the name of thatgame? Is it Balance? Wonder World?

(02:11:20):
Wonderland? I was forget It's Balanceadventure Land. Stop it World?
I think the world. Okay,we have a Genesis and Noir. Quick
look quick look up on the siteswe have. What do we play on
Wednesday? Jeez, I can't remembereven when we did yesterday? Oh Brad
played some do Maternal coming up,all sorts of stuff. I'm gonna try

(02:11:45):
and get to the Evil Genius tomaybe next week. I don't know if
I have time tomorrow, but soongames coming out hopefully soon. If it's
your birthday out there, hey,happy birthday. Now we're in April,
a whole new batch of birthdays forApril. We got the hot Bot tomorrow.
We got some more shows coming up. Thanks everybody for listening. We'll
be back. Thanks Jake, ThanksLucy, and thanks Jeff. We'll be

(02:12:05):
back next week.