All Episodes

December 2, 2025 20 mins

In this episode of The Grim, Kristin guides you through the historic shadows of Trinity Churchyard in New York City—the final resting place of Alexander Hamilton, Eliza Hamilton, Angelica Schuyler, Robert Fulton, Albert Gallatin, John Peter Zenger, and the mysterious James Leeson.

Step beyond Wall Street’s noise and into a world where America’s early history and lingering hauntings intertwine. Discover the stories etched into these stones, from Revolutionary heroes to whispered legends said to wander the grounds after dark.

A haunting, heartfelt walk through one of America’s most iconic cemeteries.

Support the show

Support The Grim by buying a cup of our next Grave Grind!
https://buymeacoffee.com/kristinlopes

Find All of The Grim's Social Links At:
https://www.the-grim.com/socialmedia

Mark as Played
Transcript

Episode Transcript

Available transcripts are automatically generated. Complete accuracy is not guaranteed.
Kristin (00:13):
Grim morning and welcome to the Grim.
I'm your host, Kristin.
On today's episode, we'll beopening the gate and entering
Trinity Churchyard, located inNew York.
The aroma of coffee mingles inthe air.
The gates stand open.
Step carefully.
It's time to descend into thehauntings of history.
There are countless ways Icould begin this episode, and

(00:36):
I've drafted more than a few.
But standing in TrinityChurchyard, the resting place of
Alexander Hamilton, one truthrises above the rest.
History and storytelling meetbeautifully on this ground.
The musical Hamilton may haverenewed the world's fascination
with his life, but this place,this quiet corner of Manhattan,
is where his story settles intosomething far more human.

(01:00):
And so this is where ourjourney begins today, at the
crossroads of a legacy, memory,and the soft hum of the past
beneath our feet.
Before we follow Hamilton'sghosts through these grounds,
Trinity Churchyard deserves itsown moment in the moonlight.
This is one of New York'soldest burial places, quiet,
weathered, and strangely serene,despite the chaos that

(01:21):
surrounds it.
Step through the gates ofTrinity Churchyard and the city
falls away.
Puritan-style headstones riselike worn stone teeth.
Their carvings softened bycenturies of rain and restless
Manhattan wind.
Burial ceased here in 1823, yetthousands rest beneath this
soil.
Merchants, sailors,revolutionaries, children,

(01:43):
sinners, and the sacred, eachfolded into the city's earliest
story.
But Trinity's dead weregathered here long before
Trinity Church ever rose.
As early as the 1660s, whenthis was still Dutch-ruled New
Amsterdam, the land served as apublic burial place.
The oldest legible stonebelongs to a five-year-old boy,

(02:04):
Richard Churcher, who died in1681, a reminder that the
churchyard predates the churchitself by decades.
Trinity Church was formallychartered in 1697 under a grant
from King William III, and in1703 the city officially
transferred the burial ground tothe parish.
From that moment forward,Trinity Churchyard became a

(02:26):
sacred responsibility, itsstones tended, its dead
recorded, and its historyunfolding alongside the birth of
a nation.
The church you see today isn'tthe original.
The first two buildings werelost in fire, but the third,
completed in 1846, still stands.
Designed by Richard Upjohn inthe soaring Gothic Revival, its

(02:47):
brownstone spire once dominatedthe city skyline.
For decades, it was the talleststructure in New York, a
solitary sentinel watching overa young, growing metropolis.
The churchyard beneath it feelsalmost hidden, enclosed by a
wrought iron fencing and a stonewall that muffles the roar of
Trinity Place.
Here in the heart of thefinancial district, where

(03:08):
fortunes rise and vanish in thetime it takes a bell-to-toll,
this patch of earth refuses tomove.
It's a time capsule many passwithout noticing, though it's
far worth more than a hurriedglance.
Trinity's burial landscapeexpands far beyond these gates.
The churchyard here on the WallStreet, the sister yard at St.
Paul's Chapel, and theexpansive uptown cemetery in

(03:32):
Hamilton, Washington Heights,which remains active today for
those willing to pay Manhattan'sfinal steep burial price.
The older grounds in thechurchyard were added to the
National Register of HistoricPlaces in 1976, ensuring that
their stories, their silence,and their ghosts will not be
erased by the city's constantreinvention.

(03:52):
And among these stones lies thestory that draws millions, the
life, death, and the legend ofAlexander Hamilton.
Trinity Churchyard may be mostfamously tied to Alexander
Hamilton, but he's far more thanalone in the sacred ground.
These worn stones hold anentire constellation of early
America, its failures, dreams,innovators, fighters, it's

(04:15):
forgotten.
Not far from Hamilton'stowering white oblisk lies a
quieter grave, easy to miss,though the man beneath it helped
reshape the nation, RobertFulton.
Before the age of skyscrapersand subways, Fulton imagined a
different kind of future, onewhere steam and fire could push
humanity forward.
In 1807, his steamboat, theClaremont, chugged up the Hudson

(04:38):
River in a plume of smoke anddisbelief.
Some called it witchcraft,others called it a nuisance.
But everyone understood onetruth.
Nothing would ever be the same.
His machines shrieked andrattled across waters previously
ruled only by wind and muscle.
And though he died in 1815 atjust 49, Fulton left behind the

(04:59):
blueprint for the industrialAmerica that would later explode
around this churchyard.
He sleeps here now quietlybeneath the earth, while the
city he helped modernize roarsendlessly overhead.
A few steps away rests AlbertGatelin, the longest-serving
Secretary of Treasury.
An immigrant with a sharpenough mind to steady a young

(05:19):
nation on the brink of collapse.
Gatelin believed America couldbe more than just chaos and
debt.
He imagined roads, bridges,canals, and an interconnected
country built not on chance butintention.
While politicians shouted andarmies clashed, he worked
silently, mathematically,holding the fragile economy
together with little more thangrit and foresight.

(05:41):
He lived at the age of 88, longenough to watch the country he
shaped stumble, rise, andtransform.
His grave blends into the rowsof stones, often overlooked.
But without Gettelin's steadyhand, the story of early America
might have ended far sooner andfar darker.
Then there is John PeterZanger, whose name whispers from

(06:02):
the distant 1730s, beforeindependence, before revolution,
before the idea of America hada solid form.
Zengger wasn't a politician ora general.
He was a printer, a man who settype by hand, inked pages until
his fingers were stained black,and dared to publish truce,
that those in power wanted tostay buried.

(06:24):
And for that, they threw himinto prison.
His trial was dramatic,unlikely, and revolutionary, and
inspired a jury to declare thatthe truth itself was a defense
against libel.
It was a single spark thatwould ignite the great fire of
the American free press.
Zenker sadly died young, worndown by work and persecution,
but a rest here in TrinityChurchyard honored by history,

(06:47):
even as his headstone grows softand unassuming, a quiet grave,
for a man who helped free thewritten word.
One of the more peculiarmonuments of Trinity Churchyard
belongs to James Leeson, a manwhose life is almost entirely
lost to history, but whose graverefuses to be forgotten.
Born in 1756 and dying just 38years later, Leeson left behind

(07:12):
little more than his memorial,but it's enough to spark
fascination, curiosity, and evena touch of conspiracy.
His stone is half-worn,weathered by centuries, yet it
still speaks in symbols.
At its center, a wingedhourglass reminds us that
Tempest Fugitive, time flees,life is fleeting, and Leeson's
brief existence is etched intothe memory of stone.

(07:35):
A flaming urn declares thatimmortality of the soul, a
testament to his faith, and thehope that death isn't the end
but a passage.
On the right side of the stone,Masonic symbols appear, a
compass, square, and a levelintricately carved together.
Leeson was a Mason, yet unlikemany other brethren buried here,

(07:56):
his grave carries an extralayer of mystery, a subtle
cryptogram or a symbolic puzzlethat has drawn amateur
codebreakers, funeral artenthusiasts, and curious
visitors for generations.
It's in this cryptic quality,the whispers of a life
half-known and the invitation todecode it, that gives Leeson's
grave its haunting allure.

(08:17):
Even centuries later, it seemshe enjoys a second life, not in
memory of deeds or titles, butin the quiet obsession of those
who wander Trinity Churchyardlooking for more secrets hidden
in stone.
If Alexander Hamilton waslightning, brilliant, bright,
and sometimes destructive, Elizawas the steadier that held him,

(08:39):
the quiet force that groundedthe storm.
She endured betrayals, thechaos of war, financial ruin,
and the devastating loss of herson Philip.
She bore the duel that wouldtear her world apart with a
strength that few couldcomprehend, and yet she didn't
crumble.
Eliza lived for more than 50years after Alexander's death,
decades marked not by despairbut by relentless purpose.

(09:02):
She preserved his writings andletters, safeguarding the story
of a man who shaped a nation,ensuring history would remember
him with clarity and care.
She founded the first privateorphanage in New York City,
dedicating her life to childrenleft vulnerable by circumstance.
She championed the poor, theforgotten, and the displaced,

(09:22):
leaving a mark on a city thatwent far beyond her role as a
wife.
Her life wasn't defined bytragedy alone.
She was a woman of formidableintelligence, compassion, and
quiet resolve, navigatingsociety, family, and legacy with
grace.
She raised her remainingchildren, nurtured her family,
and continued to cultivate thememory of Alexander Hamilton and

(09:44):
the public eye, writingletters, commissioning
memorials, and attending to thepreservation of his history.
Her grave life was beside his,a testament not to the musical
that would later revive hername, but to the extraordinary
life she lived, resilient,compassionate, and unbreakable.
Flowers are often left here,simple offerings to a woman who

(10:05):
refused to let grief silence hervoice.
And as you stand among thesestones, you can feel it.
Her spirit enduring, steady,eternal, and guarding the memory
of a life she shaped withcourage, care, and unwavering
devotion.
But Eliza was not the onlySkylar woman in Alexander
Hamilton's life.
Angelica Schuyler Church,sister to Eliza and confidante

(10:28):
to Alexander Hamilton, was asbrilliant as she was magnetic.
Born in one of New York's mostprominent families in 1756, she
moved through colonial andrevolutionary society with wit,
charm, and effortless poise.
Her intelligence and charismadrew people in.
Her letters revealed a sharp,fearless spine that matched the

(10:49):
heir's most powerful men.
Her relationship with Hamiltonbegan through her sister Eliza's
marriage, but the two shared aconnection that went far beyond
family ties.
Their correspondence crackledwith wit, admiration, and
playful intimacy.
They exchanged ideas aboutpolitics, philosophy, and
revolution, teasing andchallenging one another across

(11:09):
the page.
Some historians have speculatedthat there may have been
something deeper, a flirtation,even an affair, but there's no
definitive evidence.
What is undeniable is that theintensity and closeness of their
bond, a connection thatlingered across time and
distance.
Angelica married John BarkerChurch, a wealthy Englishman,

(11:30):
and lived in Europe.
Yet her letters to Hamiltonpersisted, filled with warmth,
intelligence, and undeniableaffection.
Back in New Yorkshire remaineda steadfast presence for Eliza,
offering counsel, comfort, andcompanionship through triumph,
scandal, and heartbreak,including the fateful duo that
ended Alexander Hamilton's life.
When she passed, Angelica waslaid to rest in Trinity

(11:53):
Churchyard, near the graves ofher sister and brother-in-law,
walking among the weatheredstones.
One can almost feel theintensity of her spirit, the
mind that dared to challenge,charm, and inspire Hamilton and
all who knew her.
She remains woven into theshadows of this graveyard, part
sister, part muse, part enigma.

(12:13):
Her story whispered among thestones like a secret the city
itself has carried forcenturies.
These are only a few of thesouls resting beneath Trinity's
shadow, innovators, freedomfighters, dreamers, and
guardians of history.
Yet their stories form thebackdrop to the most famous
grave in the yard, AlexanderHamilton.

(12:34):
Born in 1755 or possibly 1757,the exact date is lost to time,
on a Caribbean island of Nevis,Hamilton arrived in the American
colonies as a boy of remarkableintellect and ambition.
Orphaned young, he carried onlyhis whip, his pen, and a fierce
determination to rise.
He found patronage, education,and purpose in New York, and

(12:58):
soon the fires of revolutionswept him into its orbit.
Hamilton's life was a storm.
He was a soldier at 20, risingto become George Washington's
aide-de-camp, carryingdispatches, writing letters, and
advising the general as thefate of a fledging nation hung
in the balance.
His voice was decisive, hismind relentless, and his

(13:19):
ambition boundless.
He argued in pamphlets andnewspapers, championing the
Constitution, shaping the visionof a strong federal government,
and writing what would becomethe Federalist Papers, a
literary battleground whereideas themselves became weapons.
In the Young Republic, Hamiltonbuilt the nation's financial
system almost single-handedly.

(13:39):
As the first Secretary of theTreasury, he created the
National Bank, assumed statedebts into a federal system, and
introduced policies that wouldstabilize, and for some inflame
the fragile post-war economy.
Yet beyond the brilliance layconstant tension, rivalries with
Jefferson and Madison, agrowing political opposition,

(14:00):
and a life lived always in theglare of scrutiny.
Hamilton's personal life wasequally dramatic.
He married Elizabeth Schuylerin 1780, a union of love,
ambition, and alliance.
They raised eight childrentogether, navigating the joys
and heartbreaks of family lifeamid the chaos of politics.
But Hamilton was not withoutscandal.

(14:21):
The Reynolds affair in 1797exposed his human flaws, and the
whispers of betrayal wouldhaunt him even as his public
life surged forward.
The accumulation of Hamilton'slife and its sudden tragic end
came in 1804.
A duel both Aaron Burr, fueledby years of political rivalry,
pride, and insult, ended withHamilton mortally wounded on the

(14:44):
dueling grounds of Ahawken, NewJersey.
He was carried back across theriver to New York, where he died
in the arms of his wife.
His life extinguished at 47,leaving a widow, children, and a
legacy far larger than one mancould contain.
And yet here he rests inTrinity Churchyard, beneath the
shadow of the spire, among theearliest builders of New York

(15:06):
City, in a place where timeslows.
His grave is a silent monumentto a life lived at the edge of
possibility.
Brilliant, relentless,controversial, human.
Standing here, you can almostfeel the chaos and echoes of his
energy, the storm of ideas, therelentless ambition, the fire
of a man who shaped the nationand yet left it forever changed.

(15:28):
Long after his death, AlexanderHamilton might have been
remembered only by scholars andhistory buffs, quietly resting
beneath Trinity's spire.
But in 2015, the Broadway stagegave him a new life.
Hamilton, an American musical,created by Lynn Manuel Miranda,
transformed the story of thisimmigrant, revolutionary, and

(15:49):
founding father into a culturalphenomenon.
The Chaublin's hip-hop, RB, andtraditional musical theater,
retelling Hamilton's story withmodern rhythms, vibrant
choreography, and an energy thatmirrors the man himself.
The genius of the musical liesin how it illuminates Hamilton's
relentless ambition, hisbrilliance, and his flaws, while

(16:10):
also shining a spotlight on thewomen in his life, Eliza,
Angelica, and others, giving avoice to figures whose history
is often forgotten.
Since the musical's debut,millions have flocked to Trinity
Churchyard to pay respects tothe man whose story inspired a
new generation.
Visitors arrived not just tosee a grave, but to connect with

(16:31):
the life beyond the legend.
The immigrant who dared todream bigger than anyone around
him, who wrote like he waswriting out of time, fought,
loved, and wouldn't throw awayhis shot.
Fans leave flowers, takephotographs, and pause,
imagining the words that onceleapt from Hamilton's pen, now
mortalized in song.
In many ways, the musical hasbreathed a new life into a

(16:53):
centuries-old grave, turning aquiet corner of lower Manhattan
into a pilgrimage site.
The energy of the stage, therhythm of Miranda's lyrics, the
stories of love, loss, andambition, all those echo across
time, bridging the gap betweenthe 18th century and the modern
world.
Hamilton's ghost, once silent,now resonates loudly, drawing

(17:16):
listeners, visitors, anddreamers into his orbit.
Here among the worn stones ofTrinity Churchyard, you can see
it.
The collision of history andmodern culture, the echo of a
life that refuses to fade, andthe story of an immigrant whose
words, ambition, and spiritstill ignite imaginations
centuries later.
And yet, as with any placesteeped in centuries of death

(17:38):
and memory, Trinity Churchyardholds its shadows.
Step among the worn stones, andthe air seems thicker, heavier,
almost sendant, as if themremembers the lives and deaths
that have passed over it.
Some ghost tours whisper ofshadowy figures drifting beneath
tombstones at night, theirshapes fleeting, half-formed, as

(17:58):
if drawn from another century.
Near Alexander Hamilton'sgrave, some claim to have
glimpsed a solitary figure incolonial dress, silent,
mournful, and watching.
Others speak of footsteps alongthe gravel paths where no one
walks, sighs in the wind, andsudden chills that grip the
bones even on warm nights.
The cemetery's history lendsitself to the uncanny.

(18:21):
In the early 1800s,overcrowning forced gravediggers
into haste.
Coffins were sometimes only afoot and a half beneath the
soil, before older remains weremoved to make room for the
living dead.
Bones were reinterned, plotsshifted, and memories disturbed.
It's no wonder then that theenergy of the past seems to
linger here, hovering betweenstone and sky, beneath the

(18:43):
living and the dead.
The headstones themselves areold enough to whisper, weathered
skulls, winged F's head, andhourglasses carved into stone
speak of morality in a languagecenturies old.
The oldest lovesable grave, achild named Richard Churcher who
died in 1681, reminds visitorsthat these grounds held sorrow,
grief, and human ambition forlonger than most of the city

(19:06):
around them has even existed.
And like when the wind rattlesthe iron gates and Manhattan's
noise recede, it's easy to feelthe past stirring.
Perhaps it's nothing more thanimagination, the mind filling in
the gaps of silence and shadow,or perhaps these whispers and
shapes are echoes of lives oncelived, restless, unsettled, and

(19:28):
refusing to be forgotten.
For now the stories of TrinityChurchyard slip back into stone,
and the dead return to theiruneasy rest, yet they're never
silent for long.
Thank you for walking with usthrough the veil into Trinity
Churchyard, descending once moreinto the hauntings of history.
The gate is sealed, the veildrawn, yet death keeps no

(19:51):
calendar, and so we shallreturn, as we always do, on the
grim.
Advertise With Us

Popular Podcasts

Stuff You Should Know
The Joe Rogan Experience

The Joe Rogan Experience

The official podcast of comedian Joe Rogan.

Two Guys, Five Rings: Matt, Bowen & The Olympics

Two Guys, Five Rings: Matt, Bowen & The Olympics

Two Guys (Bowen Yang and Matt Rogers). Five Rings (you know, from the Olympics logo). One essential podcast for the 2026 Milan-Cortina Winter Olympics. Bowen Yang (SNL, Wicked) and Matt Rogers (Palm Royale, No Good Deed) of Las Culturistas are back for a second season of Two Guys, Five Rings, a collaboration with NBC Sports and iHeartRadio. In this 15-episode event, Bowen and Matt discuss the top storylines, obsess over Italian culture, and find out what really goes on in the Olympic Village.

Music, radio and podcasts, all free. Listen online or download the iHeart App.

Connect

© 2026 iHeartMedia, Inc.