August 15, 2024 • 34 mins
Ready to conquer the back-to-school season like a pro? Per usual, Ellie and Paige got you! This episode is packed with simple strategies to help you stay organized, productive, and motivated.
They discuss using resources like Rate My Professor and the benefits of walking your class schedule beforehand. Plus, learn the art of spending time alone to enhance focus and confidence, and the importance of being an initiator in social settings. This episode gives timeless advice and personal stories designed to uplift and energize you for a successful academic journey and school year!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hey everyone and welcome back to the that Girl
Guide.
This is your co-host.
Speaker 2 (00:03):
Paige, and this is Ellie.
Speaker 1 (00:05):
And we're so excited because today, in honor of
back-to-school season, we'redoing a back-to-school episode
we're gonna go over how to stayorganized, how to be productive,
how to stay motivated becausethat can be really hard how to
be social, how to be the bestdressed.
Everything you need to go needto know to go back to school.
That was a tongue twister.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
Love it, and you all also sent in some like questions
and just advice that you wereneeding at this time of year,
and so also go through some ofthe questions that you all sent
in and it's perfect, because Ihaven't gone back to school in
five years, so it's been a lotof reflection.
Paige was a pro student.
Thank you, she did a great job.
Thank you.
(00:46):
So I'm grateful for the advicethat she'll give all of you and
to me, because I will start backin college in the next like two
weeks, so that's so exciting.
But I think we all kind of getthose nerves when back to school
season comes into, some ofthose jitters about how, yeah,
(01:07):
we're going to be the mostproductive and time management
and how we're going to do thebest we can, and so hopefully
this is helpful to all of youwho are also feeling like me.
Speaker 1 (01:13):
Yeah, just listen, hopefully.
Listen to this, calm yournerves, listen to it a couple of
times, send it to a friend.
The first like topic we kind ofwant to talk about is just like
how to stay organized and stayproductive, especially like when
you're in school and there'slike you have a really rigorous
schedule but you also don't atthe same time.
It's a lot of like self.
I don't know you have toorganize and plan.
(01:37):
Yeah, it's on your own.
Speaker 2 (01:38):
Yeah, it's like your own schedule if they, especially
in college, where they're justlike okay, this is the, final is
yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:44):
Final is yeah.
Or yeah, you're like, wait,come back, or they're like, yeah
, you don't even have to come toclass.
And you're like oh, I don'tneed to go to class, yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:51):
Exactly, it would almost be easier if they just I
don't know week by week.
If it was planned for me, itwould be so much easier actually
.
Speaker 1 (02:05):
Yeah, but it's good because it teaches us lessons
for life where it's reallyhonest to truth.
Ain't that the best we can?
Okay, the first thing that Iwrote down was and kind of
boring, basic, but is to usechat gbt to your advantage.
I honestly, this is like I needto tell myself this even just
in life, because chat gbt, trulyor gemini or whatever all the
different apps are you can usethat for so many different
(02:26):
things, like you can literallybe like I have a tomato, feta, I
don't know cinnamon in mycupboard and that's all like
what's the recipe I can makewith it, and it will like give
you a recipe or anyways,whatever.
It is like school assignments.
Speaker 2 (02:43):
Just use the, use that to your advantage and work
smarter, not harder and I thinkI I was kind of against in a way
, because I just didn't want itto be too easy and I wanted to
show that I am still smart,whatever.
But honestly, it came aroundjust recently, um, when I
realized that when I would asksomething, it then actually was
(03:05):
making me smarter.
And it was just knowledge, itwas just, you know, in the olden
days like my parents had tolike go to libraries and find
books and like get theinformation and then it was in
their mind but we can just getthat information so fast and
then you can study to retainthat information.
Yeah, but AI just makes it soeasy to get information to use
for whatever you're doing inschool and I will say, like on
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that same note, like, yes, worksmarter, not harder.
Speaker 1 (03:30):
But I almost tried to work too smart and less hard
because I would take advantageof things like chat, gpt well,
that didn't exist when I was inschool, but things like that but
so much so that I didn't liketo your point like really learn
it or like enjoy that I was likeable to learn in school, so
things like that.
But so much so that I didn'tlike to your point like really
learn it or like enjoy that Iwas like able to learn in school
.
So I would just say, as areminder, like going to school
(03:52):
is amazing and it's such aprivilege to go to school yeah,
like I remember and just likelearn from someone every time.
Yeah, like when.
Speaker 2 (03:58):
I started college, paige was like, oh, I like sent
some cool statistic that Ilearned one of my classes in
college, like my first monththere, and Paige was like, oh, I
missed that, yeah, and itreally just made me realize,
yeah, it's so cool that I justget to learn so much.
Yeah, it's amazing and I thinkloving learning is like the best
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thing you can do, and the wayto become successful is to love
learning to stay creative.
Speaker 1 (04:23):
Learning and intellectually curious, yeah,
and I feel like coming out ofschool too, I appreciate it more
and I think it's so much harderfor me to learn now and that's
why I wish I would have takenmore advantage of it, because I
was really focused on like mygrades and working smarter, not
harder, that I took it like alittle too far sometimes that I
wasn't like oh, this is anamazing statistic I just learned
, or skill I just learned.
(04:44):
So just a reminder that this islike if you are overwhelmed
with school or stress like howamazing it is that you get to go
to school.
And I was just hanging for that.
Speaker 2 (04:55):
And I also think like really that's what you should
learn, especially in college,but also even in high school, is
to just learn to love learningbecause that's what will set you
up for the rest of your life.
If you learn that skill toenjoy learning and to seek like
opportunities to learn thenyou'll be way set up way better
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for the rest of your life.
Speaker 1 (05:17):
Yeah, and I feel like that's something I've taken
into my career.
Is that like I'm continuouslylearning, and specifically in
marketing, which is like anever-changing field?
Is that like that's how youstay on top of brand marketing
is by always like learning andgrowing okay tangent over?
The other thing we wrote downis to find a friend in each of
your classes so that you cantext like if an assignment
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change or if there's like a bigtest coming up, or if you want
to study with them, like even ifthey're like a weird friend
that you're not going to be bestfriends with for life, that's
okay, but just find someone inthere that you can like chat
with about stuff.
Speaker 2 (05:49):
It makes the biggest difference and I have had so
many classes where I didn't knowanyone and I was like, oh no
it's gonna be so much harder,but just like befriend them
literally, just start talking tothem honestly.
Those are some of my favoritepeople the way that I have in
like my random classes.
Speaker 1 (06:05):
Yeah, I still remember, um, my senior year of
high school.
I like became friends with thisgirl super randomly and she
became one of like I like shewasn't someone I hung out with
on the weekend, but like one ofmy really good friends that we
like stayed in contact likethrough college and stuff.
So, yeah, anyways, but even ifyou guys don't become besties,
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that's okay too.
It's just like nice to havesomeone to like ask yeah, and
they probably want a friend tootrue, everyone wants a win-win
for both of you.
Speaker 2 (06:32):
So don't be scared to like talk to people in your
class and make friends with themyeah, next up we have.
Speaker 1 (06:38):
At least I wrote this down.
I don't know if you're the sameway as me, but to color
coordinate, like your spirals oryour binders.
I don't know if that helpsother people, but for me, um,
math was always green.
I'm not sure it just givesgreen energy.
Um, language arts was alwayspurple.
There were always so manytiktoks on these.
Speaker 2 (06:56):
Oh, there is oh yeah, I feel like yours is kind of
not the norm, though.
Oh really, yeah, there's somany tiktoks.
I think the average is likeyellow is history.
Oh, mine was orange for historyI guess that could kind of work
, but usually yellow is morescience was more like my yellow
science was green, math was blue.
Speaker 1 (07:15):
Oh, that makes sense that makes or no?
Math was red, oh, math was red,math isn't yeah, I don't know,
I used red anyway, you have suchdifferent brains, I guess,
whatever the color is, justcolor coordinate them, because I
think that helps you stayorganized Well, just like get
cute stuff, get cute pens.
Speaker 2 (07:30):
It just makes you want to like, study and write
things down.
I was just in Europe and therewere so many of the cutest
stores.
They're like Copenhagen butbased in Copenhagen.
It's called Flying Tiger and Ididn't buy anything because I
didn't want to lug it around onmy trip, but I'm going to try
and order stuff from it onlinebecause it's so cute, so you
(07:52):
should go look them up for thecutest school essentials With
your clothes and also yourschool supplies.
Yeah, Okay, the next one is touse Rate my Professor.
Speaker 1 (08:02):
Yes.
Speaker 2 (08:02):
I don't know how we would live without that Like
truly.
Speaker 1 (08:06):
Yeah, yeah, I think.
Speaker 2 (08:08):
Yeah.
If you're in college,definitely look at that, even in
high school, like when yourandomly have like a college
professor.
Speaker 1 (08:13):
Yeah, I would look at my professor and it just and
it's great, cause sometimesthey're like oh, it's really
reading heavy.
You like reading and are goodat reading, then great, take
that class.
But if you're not, then don'ttake that class.
Um, or they are very visual andif you're a visual person, then
, anyways, use that Um.
(08:33):
The next thing we put in, whichI feel very passionately about
and really helped mespecifically in both high school
and college, honestly is towalk your classes beforehand so
that you're not stressed the dayof like if you know where they
are, so you can like still talkto your friends that you're not
stressed the day of like, if youknow where they are, so you can
like still talk to your friendsand you're not like late
because like that is like themost stressful part
Speaker 2 (08:49):
yeah, it always makes me anxious, yeah, so yeah, I
remember I did that when I gotto college and I went I just
walked around trying to findeverything, yeah, and that
helped a ton because it's sooverwhelming and, yeah, scary
the first day school.
So that's at least one thingyou can try and control is to go
look at your classes.
The last one, or sorry, secondto last one, is to take
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advantage of teachers officehours.
They usually can give extracredit points or just like I
don't know, kind of befriendingyour teachers makes such a
difference because they want tohelp you.
Speaker 1 (09:21):
Yeah, they do.
Most teachers really do careabout you.
Speaker 2 (09:22):
Yeah, because they want to help you.
Speaker 1 (09:21):
Yeah, they do.
Most teachers really do careabout you.
Yeah, I feel very passionatelyabout the Office Hours stuff
Because, like, even if theydon't give you extra points or
whatever, they at least likehelp teach you content that you
didn't know otherwise.
Speaker 2 (09:34):
And they know that, then you're a hard worker and
that you care.
Speaker 1 (09:36):
Yeah, and then you're invested, yeah, lastly, we just
put to make a to-do list.
Lastly, we just put to make ato-do list.
Sounds basic.
Speaker 2 (09:44):
That's within but you really like it just makes all
the difference.
Yeah, we need to-do list.
Speaker 1 (09:50):
And you feel better when you check something off
your list.
Speaker 2 (09:52):
You know it makes you want to like hurry and do
another thing so you can checkanother thing off your list.
It's a little game, it's alittle game.
It's good psychology.
Speaker 1 (09:59):
Okay, the next section is is like how to stay
motivated.
I feel like this is a hugething.
I also am the fastest talkerever, sorry, um.
I feel like motivation is ahuge thing because people are
like, oh, I don't havemotivation, or like that
person's motivated but,motivation, like anybody can
have motivation, and I actuallyjust started.
Speaker 2 (10:15):
Choice to be motivated.
Speaker 1 (10:17):
And I just started reading this book actually
called smarter, faster, betteror something, and it's actually
I know it's actually reallyinteresting.
I literally just started it, butone of the first things that it
started talking about wasmotivation, and I said that
motivation is triggered bymaking choices that demonstrate
to ourselves that we are incontrol.
So the actual choice we make isless important than the
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assertion we are, that that weare in control.
Control so basically like ifyou're just in control of what
you're doing, then you're moremotivated to do stuff.
So like if you have to write apaper, it's, it doesn't matter,
like where you start, just ifyou want to start with a
conclusion like that's fine, youjust have if you're in control
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of what you're doing.
Does that make sense?
no, I'm trying to dissect thislike I know it was kind of
confusing for me to understand,but then it made more sense to
me.
So like in my career, when Ihad a lot of autonomy to just
like build stuff, do stuffmyself, I was a lot more
(11:26):
motivated because I was steeringit and I was doing it myself.
Where, like when I wasmicromanaged, I was less
motivated.
So like when it comes toschoolwork and stuff like you
just have to take control ofwhatever you're doing and you
feel more motivated.
Is that better explained?
Speaker 2 (11:45):
A little bit.
I mean, I just think, really,when you feel like your life is
a mess and you feel overwhelmedand you have a million things to
do, it's hard to just knowwhere to start.
Yeah, and so then you're justlike I don't even want to start
because I don't know where tostart.
But if you just choose to start, then the motivation will
follow.
Yeah, preach and way to describeit the example of like it's
(12:07):
always like, just like theputting on your tennis shoes to
go work out or going to run isthe hardest part but like true.
Speaker 1 (12:13):
Once you like, I said that in my workout class
yesterday like you already did,the hardest part which was
coming here.
Speaker 2 (12:17):
No, it really is like .
And so I think there's so manythings that we can do to make
school easier, where if you justlike put your tennis shoes
right by your bed in the morning, then it's like they're right
there, it's easier to put themon, so it's easier to go to the
gym, or whatever.
Yeah, and I think there'slittle things that you could
find to do to make just somebetter habits to then lead to
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you being a better student andbe more productive.
Yeah, and I think one of thosethings is to just like set your
phone down and leave and go to adifferent room.
Yeah, and cause it's just soeasy for me to just pick up my
phone, check on it it makes sucha difference, even not just
school, but I'm just like Ireally just have to like fold my
laundry.
And so just this morning I justlike, okay, I'm leaving my
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phone down here by the washingmachine, I'm gonna go put all
this laundry away before I cango back and get my phone.
Nice, and it just honestly mademe happy to actually be away
from my phone, because sometimesI even could just get too glued
to it.
Yeah, and it was nice to putaway my laundry in silence,
without my phone.
Speaker 1 (13:21):
I'd love that for you um, the next thing we put on
just like staying motivated andkind of to what you said about
habits is just like createroutines and habits, like good
routines and habits and stick tothem.
We did, or I did, a guide tohabits episode.
There's so many like books onhabit stacking um, on creating
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good habits.
So like definitely recommend,like reading those two.
It's like you want to set likegood habits, like atomic habits,
or this book that I'm readingyeah, I loved atomic habits yeah
, better, smarter, faster orsomething like that.
Um building blocks of habits issomething.
Speaker 2 (13:57):
Another book anyways, you can literally just google
habits if you, and I think, alsogive yourself credit for the
habits that you already have.
Yeah, I don't think we realizehow many good habits that we
have, true?
So good job, good job, good job, you and I think.
And back to how one of thehabits we were saying, and just
like leaving your phone in adifferent room, um, kind of
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going along with that is justcreating a more comfortable
study place, like like, like Ilove to light a candle and like
that, like maybe you're the onewho got that on me.
Speaker 1 (14:27):
Really Shoot that like triggered me studying and
then, when I was done studying,I'd like blow it out Like I
don't know Like, get like yourfavorite drinker Because it's
just creating such a peaceful,serenity place.
Speaker 2 (14:40):
Serenity, a comfy chair, light, yeah, yeah, I just
love it that that made a hugedifference.
Speaker 1 (14:45):
This was when I went into my career but I was like
working at a dumb, like littledesk, but then I bought like a
nice desk and I bought some likecute Amazon books, like the
Chanel, you know, like designbooks, and it just made like
working so much more fun.
Speaker 2 (15:00):
We're not saying go spend money.
But it is easier to work whenyou have, or just like a cute.
You don't have to spend moneybecause you can go to like a
cute coffee shop, or.
But it is easier to work whenyou have cute clothes or just go
to a cute.
Speaker 1 (15:08):
You don't have to spend money Because you can go
to like a cute coffee shop or asmoothie shop or wherever.
That just has good vibes, youknow, yeah, okay, last little
section we're going to talkabout is social.
Speaker 2 (15:21):
Yeah, I think that was like the hardest part with
school for me was just thesocial aspect of it, which is so
funny because I think, yeah,people think I'm such a like
social person and I am, but Ijust she really, I really am but
like in high school, I justthink I don't know, I had the
social anxiety or whatever itwas and I just like did not want
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to deal with the social aspectof school and that's like a lot
of the questions that you allkind of set in had to do with
that as well.
Speaker 1 (15:50):
Yeah, which it really can be hard, but it Ellie was
saying that she just saw TikTokabout it being cool to like be
alone and it really is like.
Speaker 2 (16:00):
And I talked about that, I think briefly, in the
last episode too, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (16:07):
I'm just saying like I feel like I used to always
make a friend go with me, whichI feel like that's something I
still have to work on, but I'veactually gotten better like I've
gone, especially now that I'm.
I mean this I'm out of school,but when I've gone, she's like
27, she's like I can finally goplaces alone.
I know, I know it took me a longtime, guys, but now, like when
I moved to a new city, like tomaking friends, I was like got
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invited to stuff, but I was like, oh, I don't have a friend to
go with.
But I literally just had toforce myself to go.
And now I'm so grateful that I,like made the friends that I
made, but like I wouldn't havehad a friend to go with.
Speaker 2 (16:39):
So just got to go alone.
And like I'm in college.
I love sitting in the libraryby myself.
Yeah, like I don't know I I feelso confident actually being by
myself it's like I'm productive,like I'm not just here to like
chit chat, like I'm doing stuffand I don't feel bad about it.
But then sometimes I'm like, oh, there's a friend, like of
course I want to go sit withthem, yeah, but I just think
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being comfortable, being aloneas well, like it does not mean
you're not awesome and cool likeLike you are awesome and cool
and you're just too cool foreveryone else.
Speaker 1 (17:10):
Um, but on that same note, like if you do want to do
something with a friend, or youdo want to like go to a workout
class, or you do want to go to aparty, or you do want to plan,
like a pumpkin cookie night, Idon't know Do you can invite
them, like you don't need to.
Speaker 2 (17:23):
I don't know, it sounds like a dream.
Speaker 1 (17:24):
I love it.
I don't need to.
I don't know.
It sounds like a dream I loveit.
Speaker 2 (17:27):
I don't know I'm thinking like I can't wait for
fall.
Yeah, I love pumpkin cookies.
Speaker 1 (17:29):
Okay, but you can just like plan it, like you
don't need to wait for someoneelse to plan something or get it
done yeah, that's something weput is just don't wait to be
invited, be the inviter be theinitiator.
I love initiators like ifsomeone puts me in a great
message and be like on this day,at this time, we're going to
this movie.
I'll be like, okay, great, I'mthere you know, love it, love it
love them.
The world needs those people, sobe one of them, yeah um, I
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think the other thing we put isjust to like enjoy where you are
and what you're doing andlearning.
Um, we kind of said thatearlier, but just like just be
where you are.
Speaker 2 (18:02):
Yeah, and it's really it's really a privilege to be
where you are right now.
Speaker 1 (18:06):
Yeah, and you're going to miss it one day.
Like honestly, I keep justsaying preach and truth to
everything you say, but you'repreaching the truth, thank you.
Speaker 2 (18:15):
Because really I didn't love high school.
I just was like always lookingforward to it ending and then
all of a sudden it ends andyou're like, and it's so sad and
you're like that's so terriblethat I just like wished away all
of this time yeah and now Iwould like, in some ways we
should go back.
Actually I want to go back tohigh school, but I was sad.
I was like oh, that went by toofast.
I know, I was so sad.
Speaker 1 (18:36):
When I graduated from high school and college, I was
like devastated um, because it'sjust like such a fun time, um.
And then another thing that Ithink is really important when
it comes to social andfriendships.
We did a guide to friendshipepisode, which 12 out of 10
recommend listening to.
That was like one of myfavorite episodes that we did.
Um, and I wish I would havetalked about this on the episode
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, because I feel very passionateabout it is that how you talk
about other people is more of areflection of you than it is the
person you're talking about.
Speaker 2 (19:06):
And then this is like what I don't.
I think it was.
My mom taught me this and Ijust was like mind blown and she
said you know, if you'retalking about Susie to your
friend Sally, sally, then Sallymight be like oh, but she's
friends with Susie and she'stalking negatively about Susie,
so then that means she might goto Susie or to whoever else and
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then talk about me, sally, tothem.
And so really just like do notgossip, do not say bad things
about people, because it alsoalways gets around to them Like
truly everyone, and even if itdoesn't, it's like yeah, and so
every and everyone's likeconnected and just especially
even in college I college Ithought like, oh, it's so big,
but no, everyone knows everyonesomehow.
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but no, no, it's true, I likefeel very self-conscious around
friends that talk about otherfriends like I'm very like
hesitant to share, because youknow someone else opened up and
shared something with them andhere they are now telling you,
telling that yeah, and then Idon't tell them anything,
because I'm like well they'reprobably gonna tell someone.
So, anyways, that's importantand I think you'll be happier if
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you're not and because, really,like the people I admire most
are the people who don't do that.
True, so why am I?
Speaker 1 (20:21):
talk about?
Wait?
No, Talk about ideas, notpeople.
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (20:26):
I was like, wait, that's the wrong quote Almost
there, I love it.
So I loved all those kind ofsubsections how to be organized
and productive and then how tobe motivated and how to just be
more social.
But then we also got so manyresponses of like how, of
questions that you sent in andadvice you were needing, and so
(20:48):
we just kind of pulled some ones, uh, that we wanted to touch on
.
And if we didn't get to yourspecifically, yeah, please just
DM us, and we're trying to bereally good at just responding
to every new DM.
Speaker 1 (20:57):
At least the best are responding.
The very first question said umhow do you balance face,
schoolwork and friendship.
Speaker 2 (21:04):
I love that question because it's so relatable and I
think we'll struggle with that.
I'm like trying to find balancefor our whole life, Like even
if you're not going to school,whether it's work, and you know
your social life and everything.
We're just always trying tofind.
You're always balancing.
You're always struggling.
Yeah, we'll never not be doingthat and I love, but we'll give
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him a shout out Scott O'Neill,who wrote a book and it's called
be where your feet are, and Ijust love that simple tagline.
I think that comes to my mindall the time because, you can't
balance everything, but you canbe where you are and so, like,
if you're at school, be atschool, like be doing that, take
advantage of that time to likeget ahead on homework or
whatever it is doing that.
Take advantage of that time tolike get ahead on homework or
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whatever it is and like, yeah,when you're with your friends,
like be present with them whenyou're on your phone.
Speaker 1 (21:49):
That's like the saddest thing.
When I like make time to bewith my friend and they're just
like on their phone, I'm like,okay, I can be on my phone too,
but I'm like here with you andlike in in all the these places.
Speaker 2 (21:59):
When you're feeling like so behind you can't joke
everything.
What if you weren't on yourphone when you were at school?
What if you weren't on yourphone when you were with your
friends?
What if you weren't on yourphone when you were at church?
You would have been so muchmore present in all those places
and you would feel way lessbehind and overwhelmed, and
you're completely full withfaith.
Speaker 1 (22:14):
Yeah, and so that is the worst way to not be where
your Someone said how to befashionable in college and what
are some note-taking tips.
Speaker 2 (22:28):
Oh wait, I'm so so sorry.
I'm going to go back to thatfirst question.
Go back.
I just like more about thebalancing faith is.
Truly, I believe that God wantsto be included in everything.
So, like, don't feel like, oh,I'm not making enough time for
my scriptures, because, yeah,I'm busy at school and I'm busy
like going to the movies with myfriends and whatever, and
you're starting to feel like, oh, I'm not giving God enough time
.
The thing is is God cares aboutthose things.
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He cares about your social life, he cares about your job, he
cares about your school, and sohe wants you to be doing those.
He understands that you can'tjust sit and really, instead of
just trying to like make time,just also just trying to include
him in everything.
Include him in your social lifeand include him in your job and
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in your schooling, cause hereally does care.
And I just do that by.
I'm like always just prayingaloud when I'm alone.
I'm just like talking to Godout loud or I'm saying a prayer
on my way to school and on myway to different errands and
things, because I know that hedoes care about that.
Or praying like, okay, I'mabout to go see this friend at
lunch, like, what can I sharewith them.
How can I be a better listeneror whatever it's like, what can
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I do for them?
Because he cares that you'regoing to go eat lunch with one
of his um daughters that heloves, and so anyways, preach.
That's another thing about howto balance faith.
He wants to be in all thosethings, so don't feel too
stressed about not giving Godenough time.
Truth, preach, I love it.
Speaker 1 (23:49):
Okay, sorry.
Back to the question.
Back to college fashion and notaking tips, yeah, I love it,
college fashion.
Speaker 2 (23:56):
We're going to do a fashion a fall fashion episode
soon, so stay tuned.
Speaker 1 (24:00):
I love fashion.
I stay tuned.
I love fashion.
I love clothes.
I would say, though, mostimportantly is to be comfortable
, like I love fashion, but Iwill not take discomfort like
especially like when you'resitting in class you can't focus
if you're like the worst.
The worst, like if your shortsare too short or if you're like
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it's too tight yeah, whateverbelt or yeah, and I would also
say just like, get some goodbasics, like you don't have to
spend to your point.
Speaker 2 (24:28):
We're not like trying to tell you to spend a million
dollars and I'm so over thething of like, not outfit
repeating, no outfit repeat.
Speaker 1 (24:35):
Oh yeah, if I look cute in something, I'm just
gonna keep wearing it yeah, Iwould much rather have like five
things that I'm obsessed withthan like 20 things that I like
only kind of Cause that makeslike honestly like you cannot
say that going to school and agood outfit didn't make your day
better.
It did.
Speaker 2 (24:51):
It, totally did.
The day said I had a cuteroutfit, I felt more confident
and I was happier and I waslistening better.
I took better notes.
Speaker 1 (24:58):
Yeah, all of the above.
Speaker 2 (24:59):
I was less like focusing on like oh, how do I
look right now?
Like, do I look okay?
Like when I was wearing aconfident outfit, I was
confident and I was just where Iwas.
Yeah, not in my head, so loveit, okay.
Speaker 1 (25:10):
The next question someone sent in is how to be
around people who drink when youdon't drink.
I have lots of thoughts on this.
Yeah, so me and Paige bothhandled this like in opposite
ways, but I think they're bothvalid, good ways.
So, page, how did you handle?
Yeah, I feel like, first andforemost, know who you are.
Know who you are, I think, whatyour standards are.
Speaker 2 (25:31):
Yeah, just stay true to them.
If you don't want to drink,okay, make that a commitment now
.
Speaker 1 (25:34):
If you like, are wishy-washy about it, then your
standard is gonna change yeah,yeah, I would say like,
understand yourself, like notdrinking was something that I
genuinely never wanted to do waslike planning on doing,
thinking about doing like I wasgenuinely like, not phased by it
(25:56):
yeah um, and no one reallycould convince me otherwise.
And all my friends drink um andand I think honestly.
Speaker 2 (26:05):
this is something me and Paige talked about.
Our friends knew that that wassomething we weren't going to do
.
That was our standard, that wewouldn't drink, and they
respected it yeah, and so theywould never like.
I never felt pressure to.
Speaker 1 (26:16):
Yeah, no, I didn't either.
Speaker 2 (26:21):
I think they would have like if we were your
friends.
Speaker 1 (26:24):
Don't respect you for that then they're not a good
friend.
Yeah, and because your friendsrespect what you want, yeah
exactly and try having an honestconversation.
Speaker 2 (26:31):
maybe just explain a little more as to why that is
your standard and don't bejudgmental Like totally do what
you want, but like just for me Ineed to.
You know I want to be safe orwhatever is of why you don't
want to drink.
Speaker 1 (26:42):
and if they are a good friend they'll understand
yeah, and so I mean personally Iwent to all of those things
like I was always the designateddriver, um, I always had like a
lemonade or a Sprite with meand I feel like I had a great
time, like I would love hangingout with my friends.
I just I like it didn't botherme.
(27:02):
I do think it got to a point,like later on in college, where
it was less fun, and so Istarted to hang out with people
that didn't drink as much, justbecause I got you could have
more fun with people who wereyeah, yeah, but I just over
things so, but I still, at thesame time, did have friends that
would drink and I was stillhanging out with them.
It just like wasn't every singlenight, like it was in high
(27:24):
school and like my first coupleyears of college.
So I think, just like, ifthat's really something you
don't want to do, but it doesn'tbother you to go to parties and
you want to be friends withthose people and you have good
friends, like great but if it issomething you really don't want
to do but you think like youmight give in to peer pressure
that's hard Then maybe you wantto find different friends, or
maybe you're like me, where it'sjust like it just wasn't
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interesting.
I was like that Genuinelyweren't phased by it.
Speaker 2 (27:47):
I was like, yeah, I'm not going to do that.
I went to parties occasionally.
They were never that fun to meit's like this is boring.
It's like watching everyoneelse.
It's like and like staying homeand like watching a movie with
one of my friends, or like mylittle sister or my parents,
like that was more fun to me andso I didn't feel bad about not
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going to parties yeah.
Speaker 1 (28:11):
So just know yourself and like whatever you want to
do, whether you want to go tothe parties or be with those
friends, or you need new friends, or if you just want to stay
home, hang out or a wholemixture of both, like, like
Paige said, I had.
Speaker 2 (28:21):
I had friends who didn't drink like me, and so
sometimes we'd all just go dosomething together while
everyone else at school seemedto be at a party.
We kind of had our own littlegroup and that was great and so
fun, and then the other nightswas stay home or other nights
it's like I'll test it out andI'll go for a little bit.
Speaker 1 (28:41):
And sometimes that was the best, just going to the
party for like a second.
Yeah, it was always fun, causeyou're like oh, I did something,
but now I want to go to bed.
Yeah, that's true, that's kindof what I started doing.
Um, okay, next question we'realmost through is how to walk
into a classroom with confidence.
Ellie got any tips?
Speaker 2 (28:56):
Well, we all know it, I've said it a million times,
but I think just placing yourconfidence outside of yourself
and outside of even your outfitI mean, I love a good outfit
doesn't make me feel moreconfident.
But just place your confidenceoutside of all these things and
place it into god, because godconfidence is so much better
than self confidence, because heis so much stronger and greater
(29:17):
, more amazing than we will everbe, and so understanding our
worth and that we're a child ofa God um has made me feel so
confident and that he'll help medo whatever I need to do, and
that like he has a will for meand he has a plan for me, and so
this class taking it like I'mmeant to be here right now.
So I'm going to be confidentand he's going to help me do my
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very best here, yep.
Speaker 1 (29:40):
And also I would say not really really I agree with
that a hundred percent, but alsopeople aren't like looking at
you, like you think they are, soit's actually very like sad,
like embarrassing howself-centered we are and think
yeah like there's a lot of likelooking at me.
Everyone's noticing how I'malone, or everyone's gonna do
(30:00):
what I'm wearing, or whateverbut they're usually not,
unfortunately, becauseeveryone's looking at themselves
, so they can't look at you.
Speaker 2 (30:06):
Everyone's so self-conscious that we're all
just focused on ourselves.
Speaker 1 (30:11):
So don't worry about it, you're totally fine.
Yeah, okay, last question whatare some tips on how to be more
outgoing?
My motto is to just fake ittill you make it like I feel
like.
People always say, I'm reallyoutgoing.
Speaker 2 (30:26):
I don't really feel that outgoing, but I think I
just must really fake that I'moutgoing like right yeah, I
think really social skills, likesometimes it's also a muscle
totally and sometimes I'm likeoh, I'm like so social, like
conversation is so fine, andother times I'm like I'm really
struggling to talk to thisperson and I'm actually reading
(30:47):
I'm going to have to do anepisode about this a book about
communication and people who arereally good communicators and
likable because you can justclick with people.
But it's just reallyfascinating because there is a
lot of science behind it and howyou can just get on the same
wavelength of someone and justconnect when you're trying to
socialize with people.
So let me know if you guys dowant an episode on that.
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But a big part of it is just tobe authentic and real in your
conversations.
Everyone loves authenticity.
It's true.
There was like sometimes whenpeople at school who I was like
literally not friends with, likeI didn't think, and then they
just like start talking to melike I was their friend and I
was like literally not friendswith, like I didn't think, and
then they just like starttalking to me like I was their
friend and I was like, oh, Iguess we're friends, and then I
was like so happy to have afriend in this class and I don't
(31:31):
know.
So I think that was a differentme not going to is just act
like you're friends.
Be authentic, though as well atthe same time.
I love that.
Hopefully, all of you feel alittle bit better now about back
to school again.
Really, I think everyone getsthe jitters for back to school,
so if you have them, you're notalone.
But you've done it before everylike, and you can do it again.
(31:53):
Yeah, exactly like every time Iever felt like, oh, I can't do
it, like it's just too much.
I was like, oh well I, I didthe last grade or the last year
of college like I knew it againyeah, and did the last grade or
the last year of college Like Iknew it again.
Speaker 1 (32:07):
Yeah, and like we talked about at the very
beginning, which is maybe Isound like a mom, but it's like.
I'm so excited to hear.
Well, no, I already said it,it's just like you'll never get
to go back to like sophomoreyear, or junior year or senior
year.
It's like, and so it's likereally important, like it's so
exciting, so like I and I likethink I enjoyed my time in
school, but I wish I like waswhere my feet were more um and
(32:30):
just like was grateful for theopportunity to learn every
single day, because now, outsideof school, I have to make like
an effort to continuously learnyeah, that's such an interesting
thing.
Speaker 2 (32:40):
Is that that that, like we spend so much time in
school wanting to get out ofschool, some people even, like
you know, get?
Myself like oh I just need tohurry and get these degrees but
then I can make more money orwhatever it is.
And then, all of a sudden,you're out of school and you
have a job and then you spendyour free time learning yeah,
like reading self-help books andbooks about the economy and
everything so so yeah, anyways,I hope everyone has an amazing
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school year.
Yes, send us your first day ofschool outfits.
We'd love to see.
Speaker 1 (33:06):
Oh yes, we love send us any other questions, if we
didn't answer yours specifically.
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Speaker 1 (34:03):
You guys are the best .
Thank you so much for listening.
We hope everyone has best firstday of school, best day
whenever you listen to this, andthank you for some people
started in like july oh shoot, Iknow, so sorry well, if you
already started, this is stillgood, you know.
Speaker 2 (34:15):
Reminder, pep talk yeah, exactly, okay, love you
all, bye.
Hey everyone and welcome back to the that Girl
Guide.
This is your co-host.
Speaker 2 (00:03):
Paige, and this is Ellie.
Speaker 1 (00:05):
And we're so excited because today, in honor of
back-to-school season, we'redoing a back-to-school episode
we're gonna go over how to stayorganized, how to be productive,
how to stay motivated becausethat can be really hard how to
be social, how to be the bestdressed.
Everything you need to go needto know to go back to school.
That was a tongue twister.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
Love it, and you all also sent in some like questions
and just advice that you wereneeding at this time of year,
and so also go through some ofthe questions that you all sent
in and it's perfect, because Ihaven't gone back to school in
five years, so it's been a lotof reflection.
Paige was a pro student.
Thank you, she did a great job.
Thank you.
(00:46):
So I'm grateful for the advicethat she'll give all of you and
to me, because I will start backin college in the next like two
weeks, so that's so exciting.
But I think we all kind of getthose nerves when back to school
season comes into, some ofthose jitters about how, yeah,
(01:07):
we're going to be the mostproductive and time management
and how we're going to do thebest we can, and so hopefully
this is helpful to all of youwho are also feeling like me.
Speaker 1 (01:13):
Yeah, just listen, hopefully.
Listen to this, calm yournerves, listen to it a couple of
times, send it to a friend.
The first like topic we kind ofwant to talk about is just like
how to stay organized and stayproductive, especially like when
you're in school and there'slike you have a really rigorous
schedule but you also don't atthe same time.
It's a lot of like self.
I don't know you have toorganize and plan.
(01:37):
Yeah, it's on your own.
Speaker 2 (01:38):
Yeah, it's like your own schedule if they, especially
in college, where they're justlike okay, this is the, final is
yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:44):
Final is yeah.
Or yeah, you're like, wait,come back, or they're like, yeah
, you don't even have to come toclass.
And you're like oh, I don'tneed to go to class, yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:51):
Exactly, it would almost be easier if they just I
don't know week by week.
If it was planned for me, itwould be so much easier actually
.
Speaker 1 (02:05):
Yeah, but it's good because it teaches us lessons
for life where it's reallyhonest to truth.
Ain't that the best we can?
Okay, the first thing that Iwrote down was and kind of
boring, basic, but is to usechat gbt to your advantage.
I honestly, this is like I needto tell myself this even just
in life, because chat gbt, trulyor gemini or whatever all the
different apps are you can usethat for so many different
(02:26):
things, like you can literallybe like I have a tomato, feta, I
don't know cinnamon in mycupboard and that's all like
what's the recipe I can makewith it, and it will like give
you a recipe or anyways,whatever.
It is like school assignments.
Speaker 2 (02:43):
Just use the, use that to your advantage and work
smarter, not harder and I thinkI I was kind of against in a way
, because I just didn't want itto be too easy and I wanted to
show that I am still smart,whatever.
But honestly, it came aroundjust recently, um, when I
realized that when I would asksomething, it then actually was
(03:05):
making me smarter.
And it was just knowledge, itwas just, you know, in the olden
days like my parents had tolike go to libraries and find
books and like get theinformation and then it was in
their mind but we can just getthat information so fast and
then you can study to retainthat information.
Yeah, but AI just makes it soeasy to get information to use
for whatever you're doing inschool and I will say, like on
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that same note, like, yes, worksmarter, not harder.
Speaker 1 (03:30):
But I almost tried to work too smart and less hard
because I would take advantageof things like chat, gpt well,
that didn't exist when I was inschool, but things like that but
so much so that I didn't liketo your point like really learn
it or like enjoy that I was likeable to learn in school, so
things like that.
But so much so that I didn'tlike to your point like really
learn it or like enjoy that Iwas like able to learn in school
.
So I would just say, as areminder, like going to school
(03:52):
is amazing and it's such aprivilege to go to school yeah,
like I remember and just likelearn from someone every time.
Yeah, like when.
Speaker 2 (03:58):
I started college, paige was like, oh, I like sent
some cool statistic that Ilearned one of my classes in
college, like my first monththere, and Paige was like, oh, I
missed that, yeah, and itreally just made me realize,
yeah, it's so cool that I justget to learn so much.
Yeah, it's amazing and I thinkloving learning is like the best
(04:18):
thing you can do, and the wayto become successful is to love
learning to stay creative.
Speaker 1 (04:23):
Learning and intellectually curious, yeah,
and I feel like coming out ofschool too, I appreciate it more
and I think it's so much harderfor me to learn now and that's
why I wish I would have takenmore advantage of it, because I
was really focused on like mygrades and working smarter, not
harder, that I took it like alittle too far sometimes that I
wasn't like oh, this is anamazing statistic I just learned
, or skill I just learned.
(04:44):
So just a reminder that this islike if you are overwhelmed
with school or stress like howamazing it is that you get to go
to school.
And I was just hanging for that.
Speaker 2 (04:55):
And I also think like really that's what you should
learn, especially in college,but also even in high school, is
to just learn to love learningbecause that's what will set you
up for the rest of your life.
If you learn that skill toenjoy learning and to seek like
opportunities to learn thenyou'll be way set up way better
(05:16):
for the rest of your life.
Speaker 1 (05:17):
Yeah, and I feel like that's something I've taken
into my career.
Is that like I'm continuouslylearning, and specifically in
marketing, which is like anever-changing field?
Is that like that's how youstay on top of brand marketing
is by always like learning andgrowing okay tangent over?
The other thing we wrote downis to find a friend in each of
your classes so that you cantext like if an assignment
(05:39):
change or if there's like a bigtest coming up, or if you want
to study with them, like even ifthey're like a weird friend
that you're not going to be bestfriends with for life, that's
okay, but just find someone inthere that you can like chat
with about stuff.
Speaker 2 (05:49):
It makes the biggest difference and I have had so
many classes where I didn't knowanyone and I was like, oh no
it's gonna be so much harder,but just like befriend them
literally, just start talking tothem honestly.
Those are some of my favoritepeople the way that I have in
like my random classes.
Speaker 1 (06:05):
Yeah, I still remember, um, my senior year of
high school.
I like became friends with thisgirl super randomly and she
became one of like I like shewasn't someone I hung out with
on the weekend, but like one ofmy really good friends that we
like stayed in contact likethrough college and stuff.
So, yeah, anyways, but even ifyou guys don't become besties,
(06:26):
that's okay too.
It's just like nice to havesomeone to like ask yeah, and
they probably want a friend tootrue, everyone wants a win-win
for both of you.
Speaker 2 (06:32):
So don't be scared to like talk to people in your
class and make friends with themyeah, next up we have.
Speaker 1 (06:38):
At least I wrote this down.
I don't know if you're the sameway as me, but to color
coordinate, like your spirals oryour binders.
I don't know if that helpsother people, but for me, um,
math was always green.
I'm not sure it just givesgreen energy.
Um, language arts was alwayspurple.
There were always so manytiktoks on these.
Speaker 2 (06:56):
Oh, there is oh yeah, I feel like yours is kind of
not the norm, though.
Oh really, yeah, there's somany tiktoks.
I think the average is likeyellow is history.
Oh, mine was orange for historyI guess that could kind of work
, but usually yellow is morescience was more like my yellow
science was green, math was blue.
Speaker 1 (07:15):
Oh, that makes sense that makes or no?
Math was red, oh, math was red,math isn't yeah, I don't know,
I used red anyway, you have suchdifferent brains, I guess,
whatever the color is, justcolor coordinate them, because I
think that helps you stayorganized Well, just like get
cute stuff, get cute pens.
Speaker 2 (07:30):
It just makes you want to like, study and write
things down.
I was just in Europe and therewere so many of the cutest
stores.
They're like Copenhagen butbased in Copenhagen.
It's called Flying Tiger and Ididn't buy anything because I
didn't want to lug it around onmy trip, but I'm going to try
and order stuff from it onlinebecause it's so cute, so you
(07:52):
should go look them up for thecutest school essentials With
your clothes and also yourschool supplies.
Yeah, Okay, the next one is touse Rate my Professor.
Speaker 1 (08:02):
Yes.
Speaker 2 (08:02):
I don't know how we would live without that Like
truly.
Speaker 1 (08:06):
Yeah, yeah, I think.
Speaker 2 (08:08):
Yeah.
If you're in college,definitely look at that, even in
high school, like when yourandomly have like a college
professor.
Speaker 1 (08:13):
Yeah, I would look at my professor and it just and
it's great, cause sometimesthey're like oh, it's really
reading heavy.
You like reading and are goodat reading, then great, take
that class.
But if you're not, then don'ttake that class.
Um, or they are very visual andif you're a visual person, then
, anyways, use that Um.
(08:33):
The next thing we put in, whichI feel very passionately about
and really helped mespecifically in both high school
and college, honestly is towalk your classes beforehand so
that you're not stressed the dayof like if you know where they
are, so you can like still talkto your friends that you're not
stressed the day of like, if youknow where they are, so you can
like still talk to your friendsand you're not like late
because like that is like themost stressful part
Speaker 2 (08:49):
yeah, it always makes me anxious, yeah, so yeah, I
remember I did that when I gotto college and I went I just
walked around trying to findeverything, yeah, and that
helped a ton because it's sooverwhelming and, yeah, scary
the first day school.
So that's at least one thingyou can try and control is to go
look at your classes.
The last one, or sorry, secondto last one, is to take
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advantage of teachers officehours.
They usually can give extracredit points or just like I
don't know, kind of befriendingyour teachers makes such a
difference because they want tohelp you.
Speaker 1 (09:21):
Yeah, they do.
Most teachers really do careabout you.
Speaker 2 (09:22):
Yeah, because they want to help you.
Speaker 1 (09:21):
Yeah, they do.
Most teachers really do careabout you.
Yeah, I feel very passionatelyabout the Office Hours stuff
Because, like, even if theydon't give you extra points or
whatever, they at least likehelp teach you content that you
didn't know otherwise.
Speaker 2 (09:34):
And they know that, then you're a hard worker and
that you care.
Speaker 1 (09:36):
Yeah, and then you're invested, yeah, lastly, we just
put to make a to-do list.
Lastly, we just put to make ato-do list.
Sounds basic.
Speaker 2 (09:44):
That's within but you really like it just makes all
the difference.
Yeah, we need to-do list.
Speaker 1 (09:50):
And you feel better when you check something off
your list.
Speaker 2 (09:52):
You know it makes you want to like hurry and do
another thing so you can checkanother thing off your list.
It's a little game, it's alittle game.
It's good psychology.
Speaker 1 (09:59):
Okay, the next section is is like how to stay
motivated.
I feel like this is a hugething.
I also am the fastest talkerever, sorry, um.
I feel like motivation is ahuge thing because people are
like, oh, I don't havemotivation, or like that
person's motivated but,motivation, like anybody can
have motivation, and I actuallyjust started.
Speaker 2 (10:15):
Choice to be motivated.
Speaker 1 (10:17):
And I just started reading this book actually
called smarter, faster, betteror something, and it's actually
I know it's actually reallyinteresting.
I literally just started it, butone of the first things that it
started talking about wasmotivation, and I said that
motivation is triggered bymaking choices that demonstrate
to ourselves that we are incontrol.
So the actual choice we make isless important than the
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assertion we are, that that weare in control.
Control so basically like ifyou're just in control of what
you're doing, then you're moremotivated to do stuff.
So like if you have to write apaper, it's, it doesn't matter,
like where you start, just ifyou want to start with a
conclusion like that's fine, youjust have if you're in control
(11:03):
of what you're doing.
Does that make sense?
no, I'm trying to dissect thislike I know it was kind of
confusing for me to understand,but then it made more sense to
me.
So like in my career, when Ihad a lot of autonomy to just
like build stuff, do stuffmyself, I was a lot more
(11:26):
motivated because I was steeringit and I was doing it myself.
Where, like when I wasmicromanaged, I was less
motivated.
So like when it comes toschoolwork and stuff like you
just have to take control ofwhatever you're doing and you
feel more motivated.
Is that better explained?
Speaker 2 (11:45):
A little bit.
I mean, I just think, really,when you feel like your life is
a mess and you feel overwhelmedand you have a million things to
do, it's hard to just knowwhere to start.
Yeah, and so then you're justlike I don't even want to start
because I don't know where tostart.
But if you just choose to start, then the motivation will
follow.
Yeah, preach and way to describeit the example of like it's
(12:07):
always like, just like theputting on your tennis shoes to
go work out or going to run isthe hardest part but like true.
Speaker 1 (12:13):
Once you like, I said that in my workout class
yesterday like you already did,the hardest part which was
coming here.
Speaker 2 (12:17):
No, it really is like .
And so I think there's so manythings that we can do to make
school easier, where if you justlike put your tennis shoes
right by your bed in the morning, then it's like they're right
there, it's easier to put themon, so it's easier to go to the
gym, or whatever.
Yeah, and I think there'slittle things that you could
find to do to make just somebetter habits to then lead to
(12:40):
you being a better student andbe more productive.
Yeah, and I think one of thosethings is to just like set your
phone down and leave and go to adifferent room.
Yeah, and cause it's just soeasy for me to just pick up my
phone, check on it it makes sucha difference, even not just
school, but I'm just like Ireally just have to like fold my
laundry.
And so just this morning I justlike, okay, I'm leaving my
(13:04):
phone down here by the washingmachine, I'm gonna go put all
this laundry away before I cango back and get my phone.
Nice, and it just honestly mademe happy to actually be away
from my phone, because sometimesI even could just get too glued
to it.
Yeah, and it was nice to putaway my laundry in silence,
without my phone.
Speaker 1 (13:21):
I'd love that for you um, the next thing we put on
just like staying motivated andkind of to what you said about
habits is just like createroutines and habits, like good
routines and habits and stick tothem.
We did, or I did, a guide tohabits episode.
There's so many like books onhabit stacking um, on creating
(13:43):
good habits.
So like definitely recommend,like reading those two.
It's like you want to set likegood habits, like atomic habits,
or this book that I'm readingyeah, I loved atomic habits yeah
, better, smarter, faster orsomething like that.
Um building blocks of habits issomething.
Speaker 2 (13:57):
Another book anyways, you can literally just google
habits if you, and I think, alsogive yourself credit for the
habits that you already have.
Yeah, I don't think we realizehow many good habits that we
have, true?
So good job, good job, good job, you and I think.
And back to how one of thehabits we were saying, and just
like leaving your phone in adifferent room, um, kind of
(14:17):
going along with that is justcreating a more comfortable
study place, like like, like Ilove to light a candle and like
that, like maybe you're the onewho got that on me.
Speaker 1 (14:27):
Really Shoot that like triggered me studying and
then, when I was done studying,I'd like blow it out Like I
don't know Like, get like yourfavorite drinker Because it's
just creating such a peaceful,serenity place.
Speaker 2 (14:40):
Serenity, a comfy chair, light, yeah, yeah, I just
love it that that made a hugedifference.
Speaker 1 (14:45):
This was when I went into my career but I was like
working at a dumb, like littledesk, but then I bought like a
nice desk and I bought some likecute Amazon books, like the
Chanel, you know, like designbooks, and it just made like
working so much more fun.
Speaker 2 (15:00):
We're not saying go spend money.
But it is easier to work whenyou have, or just like a cute.
You don't have to spend moneybecause you can go to like a
cute coffee shop, or.
But it is easier to work whenyou have cute clothes or just go
to a cute.
Speaker 1 (15:08):
You don't have to spend money Because you can go
to like a cute coffee shop or asmoothie shop or wherever.
That just has good vibes, youknow, yeah, okay, last little
section we're going to talkabout is social.
Speaker 2 (15:21):
Yeah, I think that was like the hardest part with
school for me was just thesocial aspect of it, which is so
funny because I think, yeah,people think I'm such a like
social person and I am, but Ijust she really, I really am but
like in high school, I justthink I don't know, I had the
social anxiety or whatever itwas and I just like did not want
(15:43):
to deal with the social aspectof school and that's like a lot
of the questions that you allkind of set in had to do with
that as well.
Speaker 1 (15:50):
Yeah, which it really can be hard, but it Ellie was
saying that she just saw TikTokabout it being cool to like be
alone and it really is like.
Speaker 2 (16:00):
And I talked about that, I think briefly, in the
last episode too, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (16:07):
I'm just saying like I feel like I used to always
make a friend go with me, whichI feel like that's something I
still have to work on, but I'veactually gotten better like I've
gone, especially now that I'm.
I mean this I'm out of school,but when I've gone, she's like
27, she's like I can finally goplaces alone.
I know, I know it took me a longtime, guys, but now, like when
I moved to a new city, like tomaking friends, I was like got
(16:30):
invited to stuff, but I was like, oh, I don't have a friend to
go with.
But I literally just had toforce myself to go.
And now I'm so grateful that I,like made the friends that I
made, but like I wouldn't havehad a friend to go with.
Speaker 2 (16:39):
So just got to go alone.
And like I'm in college.
I love sitting in the libraryby myself.
Yeah, like I don't know I I feelso confident actually being by
myself it's like I'm productive,like I'm not just here to like
chit chat, like I'm doing stuffand I don't feel bad about it.
But then sometimes I'm like, oh, there's a friend, like of
course I want to go sit withthem, yeah, but I just think
(17:00):
being comfortable, being aloneas well, like it does not mean
you're not awesome and cool likeLike you are awesome and cool
and you're just too cool foreveryone else.
Speaker 1 (17:10):
Um, but on that same note, like if you do want to do
something with a friend, or youdo want to like go to a workout
class, or you do want to go to aparty, or you do want to plan,
like a pumpkin cookie night, Idon't know Do you can invite
them, like you don't need to.
Speaker 2 (17:23):
I don't know, it sounds like a dream.
Speaker 1 (17:24):
I love it.
I don't need to.
I don't know.
It sounds like a dream I loveit.
Speaker 2 (17:27):
I don't know I'm thinking like I can't wait for
fall.
Yeah, I love pumpkin cookies.
Speaker 1 (17:29):
Okay, but you can just like plan it, like you
don't need to wait for someoneelse to plan something or get it
done yeah, that's something weput is just don't wait to be
invited, be the inviter be theinitiator.
I love initiators like ifsomeone puts me in a great
message and be like on this day,at this time, we're going to
this movie.
I'll be like, okay, great, I'mthere you know, love it, love it
love them.
The world needs those people, sobe one of them, yeah um, I
(17:52):
think the other thing we put isjust to like enjoy where you are
and what you're doing andlearning.
Um, we kind of said thatearlier, but just like just be
where you are.
Speaker 2 (18:02):
Yeah, and it's really it's really a privilege to be
where you are right now.
Speaker 1 (18:06):
Yeah, and you're going to miss it one day.
Like honestly, I keep justsaying preach and truth to
everything you say, but you'repreaching the truth, thank you.
Speaker 2 (18:15):
Because really I didn't love high school.
I just was like always lookingforward to it ending and then
all of a sudden it ends andyou're like, and it's so sad and
you're like that's so terriblethat I just like wished away all
of this time yeah and now Iwould like, in some ways we
should go back.
Actually I want to go back tohigh school, but I was sad.
I was like oh, that went by toofast.
I know, I was so sad.
Speaker 1 (18:36):
When I graduated from high school and college, I was
like devastated um, because it'sjust like such a fun time, um.
And then another thing that Ithink is really important when
it comes to social andfriendships.
We did a guide to friendshipepisode, which 12 out of 10
recommend listening to.
That was like one of myfavorite episodes that we did.
Um, and I wish I would havetalked about this on the episode
(18:56):
, because I feel very passionateabout it is that how you talk
about other people is more of areflection of you than it is the
person you're talking about.
Speaker 2 (19:06):
And then this is like what I don't.
I think it was.
My mom taught me this and Ijust was like mind blown and she
said you know, if you'retalking about Susie to your
friend Sally, sally, then Sallymight be like oh, but she's
friends with Susie and she'stalking negatively about Susie,
so then that means she might goto Susie or to whoever else and
(19:28):
then talk about me, sally, tothem.
And so really just like do notgossip, do not say bad things
about people, because it alsoalways gets around to them Like
truly everyone, and even if itdoesn't, it's like yeah, and so
every and everyone's likeconnected and just especially
even in college I college Ithought like, oh, it's so big,
but no, everyone knows everyonesomehow.
(19:49):
but no, no, it's true, I likefeel very self-conscious around
friends that talk about otherfriends like I'm very like
hesitant to share, because youknow someone else opened up and
shared something with them andhere they are now telling you,
telling that yeah, and then Idon't tell them anything,
because I'm like well they'reprobably gonna tell someone.
So, anyways, that's importantand I think you'll be happier if
(20:13):
you're not and because, really,like the people I admire most
are the people who don't do that.
True, so why am I?
Speaker 1 (20:21):
talk about?
Wait?
No, Talk about ideas, notpeople.
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (20:26):
I was like, wait, that's the wrong quote Almost
there, I love it.
So I loved all those kind ofsubsections how to be organized
and productive and then how tobe motivated and how to just be
more social.
But then we also got so manyresponses of like how, of
questions that you sent in andadvice you were needing, and so
(20:48):
we just kind of pulled some ones, uh, that we wanted to touch on
.
And if we didn't get to yourspecifically, yeah, please just
DM us, and we're trying to bereally good at just responding
to every new DM.
Speaker 1 (20:57):
At least the best are responding.
The very first question said umhow do you balance face,
schoolwork and friendship.
Speaker 2 (21:04):
I love that question because it's so relatable and I
think we'll struggle with that.
I'm like trying to find balancefor our whole life, Like even
if you're not going to school,whether it's work, and you know
your social life and everything.
We're just always trying tofind.
You're always balancing.
You're always struggling.
Yeah, we'll never not be doingthat and I love, but we'll give
(21:25):
him a shout out Scott O'Neill,who wrote a book and it's called
be where your feet are, and Ijust love that simple tagline.
I think that comes to my mindall the time because, you can't
balance everything, but you canbe where you are and so, like,
if you're at school, be atschool, like be doing that, take
advantage of that time to likeget ahead on homework or
whatever it is doing that.
Take advantage of that time tolike get ahead on homework or
(21:46):
whatever it is and like, yeah,when you're with your friends,
like be present with them whenyou're on your phone.
Speaker 1 (21:49):
That's like the saddest thing.
When I like make time to bewith my friend and they're just
like on their phone, I'm like,okay, I can be on my phone too,
but I'm like here with you andlike in in all the these places.
Speaker 2 (21:59):
When you're feeling like so behind you can't joke
everything.
What if you weren't on yourphone when you were at school?
What if you weren't on yourphone when you were with your
friends?
What if you weren't on yourphone when you were at church?
You would have been so muchmore present in all those places
and you would feel way lessbehind and overwhelmed, and
you're completely full withfaith.
Speaker 1 (22:14):
Yeah, and so that is the worst way to not be where
your Someone said how to befashionable in college and what
are some note-taking tips.
Speaker 2 (22:28):
Oh wait, I'm so so sorry.
I'm going to go back to thatfirst question.
Go back.
I just like more about thebalancing faith is.
Truly, I believe that God wantsto be included in everything.
So, like, don't feel like, oh,I'm not making enough time for
my scriptures, because, yeah,I'm busy at school and I'm busy
like going to the movies with myfriends and whatever, and
you're starting to feel like, oh, I'm not giving God enough time
.
The thing is is God cares aboutthose things.
(22:50):
He cares about your social life, he cares about your job, he
cares about your school, and sohe wants you to be doing those.
He understands that you can'tjust sit and really, instead of
just trying to like make time,just also just trying to include
him in everything.
Include him in your social lifeand include him in your job and
(23:10):
in your schooling, cause hereally does care.
And I just do that by.
I'm like always just prayingaloud when I'm alone.
I'm just like talking to Godout loud or I'm saying a prayer
on my way to school and on myway to different errands and
things, because I know that hedoes care about that.
Or praying like, okay, I'mabout to go see this friend at
lunch, like, what can I sharewith them.
How can I be a better listeneror whatever it's like, what can
(23:32):
I do for them?
Because he cares that you'regoing to go eat lunch with one
of his um daughters that heloves, and so anyways, preach.
That's another thing about howto balance faith.
He wants to be in all thosethings, so don't feel too
stressed about not giving Godenough time.
Truth, preach, I love it.
Speaker 1 (23:49):
Okay, sorry.
Back to the question.
Back to college fashion and notaking tips, yeah, I love it,
college fashion.
Speaker 2 (23:56):
We're going to do a fashion a fall fashion episode
soon, so stay tuned.
Speaker 1 (24:00):
I love fashion.
I stay tuned.
I love fashion.
I love clothes.
I would say, though, mostimportantly is to be comfortable
, like I love fashion, but Iwill not take discomfort like
especially like when you'resitting in class you can't focus
if you're like the worst.
The worst, like if your shortsare too short or if you're like
(24:21):
it's too tight yeah, whateverbelt or yeah, and I would also
say just like, get some goodbasics, like you don't have to
spend to your point.
Speaker 2 (24:28):
We're not like trying to tell you to spend a million
dollars and I'm so over thething of like, not outfit
repeating, no outfit repeat.
Speaker 1 (24:35):
Oh yeah, if I look cute in something, I'm just
gonna keep wearing it yeah, Iwould much rather have like five
things that I'm obsessed withthan like 20 things that I like
only kind of Cause that makeslike honestly like you cannot
say that going to school and agood outfit didn't make your day
better.
It did.
Speaker 2 (24:51):
It, totally did.
The day said I had a cuteroutfit, I felt more confident
and I was happier and I waslistening better.
I took better notes.
Speaker 1 (24:58):
Yeah, all of the above.
Speaker 2 (24:59):
I was less like focusing on like oh, how do I
look right now?
Like, do I look okay?
Like when I was wearing aconfident outfit, I was
confident and I was just where Iwas.
Yeah, not in my head, so loveit, okay.
Speaker 1 (25:10):
The next question someone sent in is how to be
around people who drink when youdon't drink.
I have lots of thoughts on this.
Yeah, so me and Paige bothhandled this like in opposite
ways, but I think they're bothvalid, good ways.
So, page, how did you handle?
Yeah, I feel like, first andforemost, know who you are.
Know who you are, I think, whatyour standards are.
Speaker 2 (25:31):
Yeah, just stay true to them.
If you don't want to drink,okay, make that a commitment now
.
Speaker 1 (25:34):
If you like, are wishy-washy about it, then your
standard is gonna change yeah,yeah, I would say like,
understand yourself, like notdrinking was something that I
genuinely never wanted to do waslike planning on doing,
thinking about doing like I wasgenuinely like, not phased by it
(25:56):
yeah um, and no one reallycould convince me otherwise.
And all my friends drink um andand I think honestly.
Speaker 2 (26:05):
this is something me and Paige talked about.
Our friends knew that that wassomething we weren't going to do
.
That was our standard, that wewouldn't drink, and they
respected it yeah, and so theywould never like.
I never felt pressure to.
Speaker 1 (26:16):
Yeah, no, I didn't either.
Speaker 2 (26:21):
I think they would have like if we were your
friends.
Speaker 1 (26:24):
Don't respect you for that then they're not a good
friend.
Yeah, and because your friendsrespect what you want, yeah
exactly and try having an honestconversation.
Speaker 2 (26:31):
maybe just explain a little more as to why that is
your standard and don't bejudgmental Like totally do what
you want, but like just for me Ineed to.
You know I want to be safe orwhatever is of why you don't
want to drink.
Speaker 1 (26:42):
and if they are a good friend they'll understand
yeah, and so I mean personally Iwent to all of those things
like I was always the designateddriver, um, I always had like a
lemonade or a Sprite with meand I feel like I had a great
time, like I would love hangingout with my friends.
I just I like it didn't botherme.
(27:02):
I do think it got to a point,like later on in college, where
it was less fun, and so Istarted to hang out with people
that didn't drink as much, justbecause I got you could have
more fun with people who wereyeah, yeah, but I just over
things so, but I still, at thesame time, did have friends that
would drink and I was stillhanging out with them.
It just like wasn't every singlenight, like it was in high
(27:24):
school and like my first coupleyears of college.
So I think, just like, ifthat's really something you
don't want to do, but it doesn'tbother you to go to parties and
you want to be friends withthose people and you have good
friends, like great but if it issomething you really don't want
to do but you think like youmight give in to peer pressure
that's hard Then maybe you wantto find different friends, or
maybe you're like me, where it'sjust like it just wasn't
(27:45):
interesting.
I was like that Genuinelyweren't phased by it.
Speaker 2 (27:47):
I was like, yeah, I'm not going to do that.
I went to parties occasionally.
They were never that fun to meit's like this is boring.
It's like watching everyoneelse.
It's like and like staying homeand like watching a movie with
one of my friends, or like mylittle sister or my parents,
like that was more fun to me andso I didn't feel bad about not
(28:08):
going to parties yeah.
Speaker 1 (28:11):
So just know yourself and like whatever you want to
do, whether you want to go tothe parties or be with those
friends, or you need new friends, or if you just want to stay
home, hang out or a wholemixture of both, like, like
Paige said, I had.
Speaker 2 (28:21):
I had friends who didn't drink like me, and so
sometimes we'd all just go dosomething together while
everyone else at school seemedto be at a party.
We kind of had our own littlegroup and that was great and so
fun, and then the other nightswas stay home or other nights
it's like I'll test it out andI'll go for a little bit.
Speaker 1 (28:41):
And sometimes that was the best, just going to the
party for like a second.
Yeah, it was always fun, causeyou're like oh, I did something,
but now I want to go to bed.
Yeah, that's true, that's kindof what I started doing.
Um, okay, next question we'realmost through is how to walk
into a classroom with confidence.
Ellie got any tips?
Speaker 2 (28:56):
Well, we all know it, I've said it a million times,
but I think just placing yourconfidence outside of yourself
and outside of even your outfitI mean, I love a good outfit
doesn't make me feel moreconfident.
But just place your confidenceoutside of all these things and
place it into god, because godconfidence is so much better
than self confidence, because heis so much stronger and greater
(29:17):
, more amazing than we will everbe, and so understanding our
worth and that we're a child ofa God um has made me feel so
confident and that he'll help medo whatever I need to do, and
that like he has a will for meand he has a plan for me, and so
this class taking it like I'mmeant to be here right now.
So I'm going to be confidentand he's going to help me do my
(29:39):
very best here, yep.
Speaker 1 (29:40):
And also I would say not really really I agree with
that a hundred percent, but alsopeople aren't like looking at
you, like you think they are, soit's actually very like sad,
like embarrassing howself-centered we are and think
yeah like there's a lot of likelooking at me.
Everyone's noticing how I'malone, or everyone's gonna do
(30:00):
what I'm wearing, or whateverbut they're usually not,
unfortunately, becauseeveryone's looking at themselves
, so they can't look at you.
Speaker 2 (30:06):
Everyone's so self-conscious that we're all
just focused on ourselves.
Speaker 1 (30:11):
So don't worry about it, you're totally fine.
Yeah, okay, last question whatare some tips on how to be more
outgoing?
My motto is to just fake ittill you make it like I feel
like.
People always say, I'm reallyoutgoing.
Speaker 2 (30:26):
I don't really feel that outgoing, but I think I
just must really fake that I'moutgoing like right yeah, I
think really social skills, likesometimes it's also a muscle
totally and sometimes I'm likeoh, I'm like so social, like
conversation is so fine, andother times I'm like I'm really
struggling to talk to thisperson and I'm actually reading
(30:47):
I'm going to have to do anepisode about this a book about
communication and people who arereally good communicators and
likable because you can justclick with people.
But it's just reallyfascinating because there is a
lot of science behind it and howyou can just get on the same
wavelength of someone and justconnect when you're trying to
socialize with people.
So let me know if you guys dowant an episode on that.
(31:09):
But a big part of it is just tobe authentic and real in your
conversations.
Everyone loves authenticity.
It's true.
There was like sometimes whenpeople at school who I was like
literally not friends with, likeI didn't think, and then they
just like start talking to melike I was their friend and I
was like literally not friendswith, like I didn't think, and
then they just like starttalking to me like I was their
friend and I was like, oh, Iguess we're friends, and then I
was like so happy to have afriend in this class and I don't
(31:31):
know.
So I think that was a differentme not going to is just act
like you're friends.
Be authentic, though as well atthe same time.
I love that.
Hopefully, all of you feel alittle bit better now about back
to school again.
Really, I think everyone getsthe jitters for back to school,
so if you have them, you're notalone.
But you've done it before everylike, and you can do it again.
(31:53):
Yeah, exactly like every time Iever felt like, oh, I can't do
it, like it's just too much.
I was like, oh well I, I didthe last grade or the last year
of college like I knew it againyeah, and did the last grade or
the last year of college Like Iknew it again.
Speaker 1 (32:07):
Yeah, and like we talked about at the very
beginning, which is maybe Isound like a mom, but it's like.
I'm so excited to hear.
Well, no, I already said it,it's just like you'll never get
to go back to like sophomoreyear, or junior year or senior
year.
It's like, and so it's likereally important, like it's so
exciting, so like I and I likethink I enjoyed my time in
school, but I wish I like waswhere my feet were more um and
(32:30):
just like was grateful for theopportunity to learn every
single day, because now, outsideof school, I have to make like
an effort to continuously learnyeah, that's such an interesting
thing.
Speaker 2 (32:40):
Is that that that, like we spend so much time in
school wanting to get out ofschool, some people even, like
you know, get?
Myself like oh I just need tohurry and get these degrees but
then I can make more money orwhatever it is.
And then, all of a sudden,you're out of school and you
have a job and then you spendyour free time learning yeah,
like reading self-help books andbooks about the economy and
everything so so yeah, anyways,I hope everyone has an amazing
(33:02):
school year.
Yes, send us your first day ofschool outfits.
We'd love to see.
Speaker 1 (33:06):
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didn't answer yours specifically.
Speaker 2 (33:11):
I'm sorry.
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