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July 24, 2025 40 mins

What if the most valuable people in your team are the ones no one’s paying attention to?


Michael Lewis, author of acclaimed sports book Moneyball, The Big Short, and his new book Who Is Government? The Untold Story of Public Service — joins Jake to explore how data can reveal hidden talent, challenge gut instinct, and reshape the way we build teams.


They discuss:

  • How Moneyball rewrote the rules on spotting overlooked talent
  • Why culture follows winning — not the other way around
  • The myth of instinctive leadership in sport and business
  • And what Lewis learned from inside the Trump administration and Elon Musk’s takeover of the U.S. civil service


This conversation will challenge how you think about performance, power, and the people who keep things moving - quietly, and without credit.

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