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May 23, 2025 45 mins

David Pagnotta, Editor in Chief of The Fourth Period, analyzes if the choice to let Brendan Shanahan walk was easy, what a new club president might mean, if there is awareness in the Leafs brass that the culture needs changes, and the Leafs' looming contract negotiations with Matthew Knies and John Tavares (00:00). Zach Harper, NBA writer at The Athletic, joins JD to discuss the Oklahoma City Thunder trending towards becoming the champions, the NBA's failure at selling small-market teams, and the exhausting discourse to avoid (24:30). 

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