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November 18, 2025 58 mins

Welcome back to The Fan Debate, brought to you by Sky Bet.


This week, Jamie Carragher and Wayne Rooney are joined by former Premier League referee Mike Dean for an honest look inside the world of officiating. Mike lifts the lid on what referees really deal with, from managers who were the hardest to handle to how criticism affects officials from one game to the next.


We also break down Rooney’s issues with the modern refereeing standard, the pressure VAR puts on officials, and whether players influence refs more than people think. Mike also reflects on iconic moments from his career, including the unforgettable Aguero title-winning goal.


Which rule in football would you change first?


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00:00 Intro

03:12 The Evolution of Refereeing

15:58 Managing Referees and Players

31:52 Yellow Cards and Game Management

34:17 Referee Bias and Fan Perception

36:43 Crazy Games and Memorable Moments

37:47 Referee Relationships with Managers

40:19 Challenges with VAR and Refereeing

44:20 Referee Numbers and Quality Concerns


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