March 3, 2022 – Rep. Andy Biggs, Lee Smith, Jim McLaughlin, Matt DePerno, Kevin Roberts

Rep. Andy Biggs, Lee Smith, Jim McLaughlin, Matt DePerno, Kevin Roberts

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:12):
Good evening and welcome to the real story tonight. Congressman
Andy Biggs, Lee Smith, Jim McLaughlin, Matt Doperno, and Kevin
Roberts will be joining us as we continue onward and
upward in the fight to save America. But first, sanctions.
We're hearing a lot of talk about them. But why
isn't Biden sanctioning the obvious Russian oil? Well, apparently it's

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not in his strategic interest.

Speaker 2 (00:38):
Look, we don't have a strategic interest in reducing the
global supply of energy. So you've heard Jen talk about that.
The effect of what would happen with the global supply here,
So that would raise prices at the gas pump for Americans.

Speaker 3 (00:53):
And pad police profits.

Speaker 2 (00:54):
Right, So that's something that we're very aware of.

Speaker 3 (00:57):
Oh they're aware, but how about self aware?

Speaker 1 (01:00):
Even the limestream media can't miss the irony of talking
sanctions while avoiding sanctioning the very industry Russia is holding
the world hostage to which America could free up in
an instant.

Speaker 4 (01:13):
There has to be at least some acknowledgment of the
irony of the United States and Western countries sanctioning Russia
but continuing to buy its fuel.

Speaker 2 (01:24):
Look, I mean, here's the thing again, there's the global
supply of energy that we really have to think about.
We don't want to pa Poment's profits, and we want
to make sure that we don't raise prices on the
American public.

Speaker 1 (01:38):
How considerate and appropriate, because yes, Treasury Secretary Janet Yellen
would like to go on record how they're dealing with
Russian gas is intentional and appropriate.

Speaker 3 (01:50):
We have.

Speaker 5 (01:52):
Attempted to shield the energy sector from sanctions. That hasn't
happened entire life. But I think that's appropriate given our objectives.
But as I said, nothing is off the table in
terms of future sanctions.

Speaker 1 (02:10):
Nothing is off the table really, that is, except apparently
restoring American energy independence and dominance. As Deputy Secretary of
State Wendy Sherman is doubling down, Divesting from Russian energy
is off the table, that is, until we permanently transition
to clean energy.

Speaker 6 (02:29):
Should Europe and the West divest Western Europe and the
Western world divest of Russian energy?

Speaker 7 (02:35):
In your opinion, you know, I think that there is
a lot of rethink and there will be about energy
security worldwide.

Speaker 8 (02:44):
But no, was your answer.

Speaker 7 (02:46):
But I do think that the whole world is rethinking
energy security. Over the long term, there will be a
transition error. It is not only in our national security
interest because of situations like what we're currently facing, is
an international interest because climate change requires it.

Speaker 1 (03:04):
Ah, Yes, climate change requires it. Not war, climate change.
And do you realize what an incredible opportunity Putin is
presenting us? Why Energy Secretary Jennifer Grinholm can barely contain
her enthusiasm on the subject Going forward.

Speaker 9 (03:21):
Putin has provided the world with an overwhelming incentive to
move away from Russian oil and gas and two other
forms of energy, especially clean energy, which is diverse, it
is abundant, it's reliable, it's affordable, and it's home grown.
Building out clean energy like wind and solar and geothermal

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that will make America more energy independent and much less
vulnerable to price shocks from the volatile and often weaponized
oil market.

Speaker 1 (03:54):
Never let a crisis go to waste, right, especially if
what's happening in Russia paves the way for a global
green new deal.

Speaker 9 (04:02):
Working with Europe to chart a new path free from
Russian oil and gas and toward clean energy. And we're
doing the same here at home so that we can
provide clean and reliable and affordable energy to every American,
so that we can create millions of jobs, and so
that we can combat the climate crisis, because accelerating our

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progress toward net zero emissions is the best way to
free the world from the weaponization of energy supplies.

Speaker 1 (04:31):
But really, as any of this is a surprise, the
Biden Administration's messaging and agenda hasn't changed since Russia Invada Ukraine.

Speaker 3 (04:39):
In fact, what we're seeing now.

Speaker 1 (04:41):
Is just a continuation and escalation of past rhetoric and behavior.

Speaker 9 (04:47):
If you drive an electric car, this would not be
affecting you.

Speaker 10 (04:51):
Clearly, we're working through an energy transition, and we've got
to start by adding energy. And the reality is we
have to take some time time to get off of
oil and gas.

Speaker 11 (05:02):
We recognize this, this is a transition.

Speaker 9 (05:04):
I hope the car industry is ready to be able
to make all of the vehicles that will be in demand.

Speaker 12 (05:10):
Tons of new capacity, new jobs, new facilities.

Speaker 11 (05:13):
My counterpart in Ireland, Minister Ryan, said words that I
thought were very interesting. No country has been held hostage
to access to the sun, no country has been hostage
to the wind. This is not just an energy and

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climate issue. It also is potentially the greatest peace plan
that ever existed.

Speaker 1 (05:45):
And there you have it. If we want peace, we
must have the Green New Deal. There is no other option,
no compromise in the left's playbook. We are indeed in
for challenging days, not because of Russia or climate change,
but because of the radical left.

Speaker 3 (06:00):
And that is a real story.

Speaker 1 (06:01):
Joining us now with his reaction, the congressman representing Arizona's
fifth congressional district, Congressman Andy Biggs, Mister congressmen, really, when
you listen to them talk about the Green New Deal,
this fits into their greater plan. They could care less
about what the American people, or really the people of
the world are going through right now.

Speaker 13 (06:21):
Yeah, it is really it's like unicorns and rainbows that
they have. Note they have no tactile feel for the
reality of the situation. So they can talk about solar
farms and wind farms all they want, but not one
of those is going to be able to power a
tank for Russia or the Ukraine or any other army

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in the world. They are so out of touch with
reality that it makes my head swim. How can these
people be the ones who are governing us? When they
do not understand basic fundamentals. If you want to wean
your way off Russian oil and gas, what do you do.
You stop buying Russian oil and gas, and you open
up America's exploration development extraction industry, and before you know it,

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we will be energy and dependent and then maybe one
day you can expand your solar and wind farms and
make it work. But it doesn't work today, and you're
putting lives in danger today.

Speaker 8 (07:21):
And that's why I say they're just moronic.

Speaker 1 (07:23):
And that's why Putin could care less about all of
our threats of sanctions, because he knows that their Green
New Deal is more important to them than anything else.
And so they're not going to ever open our pipelines.
There's really no threat. If they won't open it for this,
they're not going to open it for anything that's right.

Speaker 8 (07:40):
And it makes the US very dangerous.

Speaker 13 (07:43):
And when the US is vulnerable, by the way, the
rest of the world is vulnerable. Two people who are
have malevolent intentions, like Vladimir Putin, like Kim Jong un,
like the Ayatola, like Jijianting. These people are looking and
measuring and they're saying, well, you know, the US is
being run now by a bunch of college academics who

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have no idea how the real world works, and so
we're all vulnerable now, Natalie, because of them.

Speaker 3 (08:13):
There's no real leader.

Speaker 1 (08:14):
When you see what's happening right now with Putin, there's
not the NATO alliance. There's no real leader that's confronting Putin.
That's why he's being able to get away with so
much because he's not afraid of anyone.

Speaker 3 (08:25):
You hear discussions.

Speaker 1 (08:26):
About she's talking to him, and he's listening to she,
but what about the rest of us.

Speaker 3 (08:31):
There is no strong leader anymore.

Speaker 8 (08:34):
That's right.

Speaker 13 (08:35):
So when she's talking to him, she and Putin are
figuring out how she can backfill whatever sanctions come on,
and how they can buttress each other in their ambitions.
But when you had Donald Trump there, they knew that
you had a strong leader. They knew that we were
into energy independent, so that took away what Russia could do.

Speaker 8 (08:54):
And don't forget this is a two for.

Speaker 13 (08:55):
If you open up and make the US energy independent
like we were under President Trump, what's going to happen
is it'll lower the cost of the inflationary pressure all
across the US and all products. And secondly, since Putin
needs about sixty dollars a barrel oil, you reduce the
cost per barrel internationally, and that puts pressure on Putin

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and so he can't go out and invade and use
this military ambitions that he has. That's what's going on here.
He's with gas and oil sitting at one hundred and
twenty bucks a barrel. Guess what that gives him a
lot of money to continue his military adventurism against the Ukraine.

Speaker 8 (09:36):
And we hope that it'll stop there.

Speaker 13 (09:38):
But I mean, the reality is, instead of blessing our
country and benefiting the entire world, this administration has basically
eviscerated this country's economy and also inspired bad guys around
the world and made the world less safe as well.

Speaker 1 (09:55):
It's the least we could do right now, after everything
Biden's done to this country in the world.

Speaker 3 (09:59):
The least t do is make us.

Speaker 1 (10:00):
Air energy independent, dominant to be a net exporter of energy.
That's what America was. It's so easy, but it's so
amazing what it is. They don't want to be proven wrong,
and they just I guess they see this as an
opportunity for the green new deal, but that takes time.
It just doesn't make sense what they're doing right now.
They just seem hell bent on our destruction.

Speaker 8 (10:22):
Natalie.

Speaker 13 (10:23):
I will tell you my comment the other day was,
it seems to me the first sanction you would have
put on Vladimir Putin and Russia would be on the
on oil and gas, right, and no energy, because because
that's their whole economy is based on. They get like
almost fifty percent of their GDP is based on petro

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petroleum products and export exporting them outside the world.

Speaker 8 (10:48):
And Donald Trump was right.

Speaker 13 (10:49):
He told Donald Trump actually told Anahla Merkles that if
Germany gets too dependent on Russian oil, it will be
basically easy to blackmail them, easy to hold them hostage.

Speaker 8 (11:05):
And that's what you see happening in Europe.

Speaker 13 (11:07):
The reason you don't see is stronger and more a
vivid response to this is because Europe knows, hey, we're
held hostage on energy.

Speaker 8 (11:16):
And Trump was right on that, like he was on
so many other things.

Speaker 1 (11:19):
He's been proven right here in America and around the world.

Speaker 3 (11:22):
Really the world. If they really thought that they were
going to get a better deal.

Speaker 1 (11:26):
With Biden, now they're all suffering for it, and it's
just so it's so disgusting to see because none of
this ever had to happen. Mister Congressman, thank you for
the work you're doing out there fighting. We can hardly
wait till November. It couldn't come soon enough, so God
bless you and keep us posted on your efforts.

Speaker 13 (11:40):
Thanks Natalie, and amen to that. I can't wait for November.

Speaker 3 (11:43):
Amen, God bless you. We'll see us soon.

Speaker 1 (11:45):
And up next on the Real Story, Biden shares his
newest pipe dream with the American people. More on what
false promises he's making this time after the.

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Speaker 15 (12:19):
Any person in this country with a car is talking
about it, complaining about it.

Speaker 3 (12:24):
And the thing is prices are only going to go up.

Speaker 15 (12:27):
What tangible things can this administration do to address it?

Speaker 16 (12:31):
Now?

Speaker 17 (12:34):
Yeah, we're seeing this pain at the pump. As you know,
gas prices are based on oil prices. Oil prices go
up when there's volatility and uncertainty in the world. Obviously,
there's a lot of that right now, especially with the
consequences of Russia's attack on Ukraine. There are options available
to the president, and he's been exercising those options. For example,

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not just a loan, by the way, but with several
other countries putting together a release strategic release of petroleum
from reserves in order to help stabilize that oil market.

Speaker 1 (13:06):
More lip service from Team Biden when it comes to
increasing prices at the pump, US Secretary of Transportation Pete
buddhaj Edge is once again deflecting from the real reason
gas prices are hitting record highs.

Speaker 17 (13:19):
I think a lot of folks sometimes overstate the influence
that anyone politician can have on gas prices, that even
an official in a leadership role like the President of
the United States can have. And yet the President has
asked for, sought and exercised options that are making a
difference now.

Speaker 1 (13:38):
Usually the liberal lapdogs in the lamestream media will let
Democrats get away with weak responses.

Speaker 3 (13:44):
And dodging tough questions. Not so in this case.

Speaker 1 (13:47):
And when it's MSD and C tightening the screws on
this feckless administration, you know something is definitely wrong.

Speaker 15 (13:56):
Are there things like and I realize it is controversial,
huge environmental impacts. Could the President possibly consider authorizing the
Keystone pipeline working something out with Iran?

Speaker 16 (14:11):
I didn't look.

Speaker 17 (14:13):
The President has said that all options are on the table,
but we also need to make sure that we're not
galloping after permanent solutions to immediate short term problems, where
more strategic and tactical actions in the short term can
make a difference, like what you have with the Strategic Reserve,
which exists partly in order to respond to situations like this.

Speaker 1 (14:34):
Sounds good in theory, but let's examine that plan. Biden
is under the illusion that he can offer some relief
at the pump by tapping into America's Strategic Petroleum Reserve.
The administration ordered the release of fifty million barrels of
oil from the reserve in November and is now promising
to release an additional thirty million barrels. However, considering the

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United States consumes an average of twenty and a half
million barrels of oil a day, with just over nine
million of those barrels used to make motor fuels, Biden's
gesture is no more than a drop in the ocean.

Speaker 3 (15:07):
So what about drilling to relieve pain at the pump?

Speaker 5 (15:10):
As in has already talked about releasing oil from this,
as he already has done.

Speaker 3 (15:20):
From the spowl and the and.

Speaker 5 (15:23):
There is I'm not for drilling on public lands.

Speaker 1 (15:27):
Translation, Crazy Nancy doesn't think twice about the pain and
suffering of the American people facing.

Speaker 3 (15:33):
Stickers shock at the gas station.

Speaker 1 (15:35):
She's too busy enjoying her twelve dollars a pint ice
cream that she keeps in her twenty four thousand dollars
high end refrigerator behind the walls of her multimillion dollar
compound in.

Speaker 3 (15:45):
The cesspool by the Bay.

Speaker 1 (15:47):
Joining us now author and journalist Lee Smith Lee, how
dare we talk about becoming energy independent and energy dominant? Yes,
let's talk to a rant that should help solve things.

Speaker 18 (15:58):
Yeah, I mean, what's going on here is that the
Biden administration is trying to lay down cover for the
chaos that they're intentionally causing. And the reason for that
is not surprising. I mean, this is about pushing well, look,
I mean nominally, it's about pushing climate change legislation down

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everyone's throats, so at, pushing the green New Deal. It's
about it's about renewal energy, but of course it's not
about renewal energy at all. What it's about it's a
political instrument being used against the American public, and they're
trying to provide as much cover as possible so that
while energy prices continue to soar, it will hurt the

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Democrats as little as possible as they continue head up
to that as they can, as they continue to wratchet
up the prices, and then eventually at a certain point
they'll just say, oh, well, look it's wonderful we have
all these renewable energies. Anyway, fossil fuels are too expensive,
so forget about it. We're already here the age of
wonder wind and wonderful solar energy, and they'll take care

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of anything, and we have driverless trucks and all these
different things that we've been promising for years. It's a
political instrument, that's all it is.

Speaker 1 (17:10):
It's the greatest peace plan, right, That's what Jennifer Grohnholms
said just a few weeks ago. This is their agenda,
the Green New Deal. This is the opportunity they've been
looking for. The media seems to not be allowing them
to get away with it, and yet they're going.

Speaker 3 (17:25):
To keep doing it.

Speaker 1 (17:26):
So even though the media is slightly pushing back, does
it even make a difference that they're saying this or
is the media just trying to act like they're listening
to their viewers?

Speaker 18 (17:35):
Right? The media is not really pushing back. I mean,
no one can fail to note that prices, you know,
that energy prices are soaring. So when they have an
administration official, especially someone like Pete Buttage Edge who's the
Secretary of Transportation, then they have to ask questions about it,
and you know, the answers are absolutely ridiculous. I mean,

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the different questions that might have been asked about climate
change or green energy could have asked for the last
several decades, but they refused to ask them. I mean,
I mean, no one really takes this seriously. No one
who's a serious adult, No one who sees people talking,
no one who sees climates are John Zerry, John Kerry
rather zooming from capital to capital in a private jet.

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I mean, that's absolute nonsense. Or Barack Obama, who's bought
waterfront property in Massachusetts. None of these people are serious.
It's not about climate change. It's not about renewable energy,
and by the way, renewable energy, especially given the amount
of equipment built in China. It's intended to help the
Chinese Communist Party, while it's intended to undermine the economic

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base of the Democratic Party's opponents here right, small business, agriculture.
This is what's going on. It's a political instrument for
trying to give it as much cover as they possibly
can for as long as they can.

Speaker 3 (18:55):
How long do you think they can do this for?

Speaker 1 (18:57):
Because would you see that they're doing to this country
into the world Right now, everyone's dependent on Russia, so
why does it matter and we're going to be dependent
on a ran then what are they trying to do
because it just seems like they're selling out this country
and they have no other plan except eventually we're all
supposed to be driving the green cars and we're going
to get a train to Hawaii and all the other

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pipe dreams they had.

Speaker 18 (19:21):
It could last until the next Republican administration. I mean,
that's how long it can last. And that's why I
think that it's going to be Look, I mean, even
if they even if Keystone is reopened with the next
Republican administration. I mean, people are going to be very
energy producers. Energy companies are going to be very reluctant
to do this sort of thing to reopen because they

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realize they can just be shut down once again with
a democratic administration. And that's why I argue that the
point is not just going to be legislation. The point
is not just going to be deregulating these things, but
it's going to mean it's going to mean long prison
terms for people who are working against the interest of
the American public. I mean, for instance, the people who

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are responsible for the open borders policy now in our
southern border. I mean, they're breaking the law. They should
go to jail. I mean, there's no question about this
is what the next Republican administration and the next Republican
Congress should be gathering enough evidence to make these cases
very strongly. These are senior American officials who are breaking
the law and endangering the lives of American citizens. And

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you break the law, you should go to jail. And
that's what the job of the next administration should be,
and the job of the Senate and the House, assuming
that they retake back the Senate and the House in
Novembers to gather evidence and to make sure that these
people go to jail for harming the American people.

Speaker 1 (20:45):
Do you think the Republicans are getting the courage and
the toughness that we're going to need. Obviously we're getting
good candidates in the primaries. President Trump is endorsing so
many different candidates. Do you think that will learn to
be as effective a resistance as they were, even though
they have nothing on their side except wise at this point.

Speaker 18 (21:03):
Well, it's going to depend on the different leaders that
the different leaders that will rise over the next few months,
the different leaders that will rise in November. I mean,
we know what the Republican Party has been doing the
last several months. There are only a few House members
who've done anything to defend to defend the January sixth detainees.
Because the idea right now Republican Party leadership is we'll

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just sit back, we won't do anything. We'll just let
the Democrats continue to screw up and American voters will
have no choice but to turn to us. So they've
done nothing, they haven't done anything to deserve the votes
of Americans. But they're right compared to the Democrats. They're better.
So we will need new leadership to arise, and there
are a lot of impressive figures who appear to be

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rising in November. I mean, someone like Joe Kent comes
immediately to mind, and those are the kind of people
that will have to guide. Again, it's not just the
Republican Party, it's guiding the future of the country. This
is the political instrument right now now that the pro
America side the United States has fighting for its interests.

Speaker 3 (22:06):
We need the courage to do it.

Speaker 1 (22:07):
Because President Trump was the only one really fighting to
drain the swamp. All the different people we thought were
doing things, whether it was bar now he thinks he's
some star with his new book coming out. It's unbelievable
just how much the people that were on our side
were actually undercutting the agenda. And we're working with the
other side, the dark side, the swamp, the deep state,
actually just really doing more damage than them because we

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often didn't know who was on our side. But Lee,
thank you for the work you're doing to continue to
uncover so much of what's happening. There has to be accountability,
there has to be courage.

Speaker 18 (22:38):
Thank you, Natalie, see you soon.

Speaker 1 (22:40):
We'll look forward to seeing you soon an energy dependency.
Maybe in our present, but what about our future. Well,
just look at the polls and yes there's a MAGA
wave coming. Jim McGlaughlin is up next to break down
the latest numbers.

Speaker 3 (22:51):
So see right there. We'll be back after this.

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Speaker 3 (23:19):
The Sea Pack straw Pole.

Speaker 1 (23:21):
It's become quite famous and its results widely talked about
throughout the year and twenty twenty two, well it's no
different as this year's Straw Pole results released Sunday show
President Trump at an insurmountable lead in the field of
potential Republican candidates at fifty nine percent, with eighty five
percent of those surveyed saying they would support President Trump

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for the Republican nomination. As to this day, President Trump
has a whopping ninety seven percent approval rating. And for
those who think we should stop talking about twenty twenty,
while the people certainly don't think so, as ninety percent
believe voter fraud helped Biden win, with election in ten
being the number one issue ahead of the midterms. Joining

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Us now to break down more of the results, the
pollster himself, president and partner at McLaughlin and Associates, Jim McLaughlin. Jim,
what do you see as the biggest takeaway from this poll?

Speaker 16 (24:15):
You know, the biggest takeaway from it is just as
you pointed out, Natalie, I mean, President Trump is not
just the Republican Party, but he's the conservative movement right now.
His successful presidency, whether it was on the economy, whether
it was on national security, immigration, you know, these issues
like inflation. We didn't have these kinds of problems when

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Donald Trump was president. And what's happening now. There's a
lot of folks that said, and we talked about this
when we were releasing the results for the Seapack shor Pole,
a lot of folks thought Donald Trump's popularity was going
to fade. But if anything, what's happening is he seems
to be getting even more popular right now. I mean,
nobody has a ninety seven seven percent job approval rating.

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And Natalie, you saw it when he gave his speech there.
I mean that place was just electric.

Speaker 8 (25:08):
And I've never.

Speaker 16 (25:09):
Seen anything like it. Basically the last ten minutes of
his speech, people were just standing and applauding. I mean,
it was really, really incredible the reception he got. That's
why I think too, when we delivered the results and
we saw how popular President Trump was, I don't think
anybody was surprised by it.

Speaker 3 (25:26):
It's so true.

Speaker 1 (25:27):
The momentum has just kept growing since November third, and
we've never seen a movement like this before. Where you
look back at twenty sixteen, it was big numbers when
he got sixty three sixty four million. Then by twenty
twenty you had seventy four to seventy five million, probably
a lot more. This keeps growing because independence Democrats that
Biden remorse. People are changing parties, and not only even

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changing parties, they're just choosing America.

Speaker 16 (25:53):
Oh there's no question about that. And I get asked
this a lot. What's more important the base or the swing?
Tell folks, look, you need both in order to win,
because our base isn't big enough to win even though
there are more conservatives than there are left of center voters.
To get a majority, you need to have the base,
but you also need to have the swing voters. And
that's what we're seeing right now, these independent voters. I'm

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seeing in voter surveys that I'm doing right now with
general election voters.

Speaker 8 (26:21):
You've got independent.

Speaker 16 (26:22):
Voters that are going as much as twenty points right
now for Republican candidates. And they're clearly when we just
did our last national poll, the Republicans were up by
two in the generic ballot. But then when you look
at who the undecideds are, they really disapprove of the
job that Joe Biden is doing. They want to check

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in ballance on Joe Biden because he's got too far
to the left. His policies are failing right now. And
there's you know, we always look at those all important
female voters in the election, married women. In the generic
ballot for president. Right now, married women, the Republicans are
up by two twenty points. That's a huge problem for
the Democrats right now.

Speaker 1 (27:04):
What do you think is the number one issue when
you're talking to those voters with the married women is
at the critical race theory COVID And then with the independence,
is it inflation, energy?

Speaker 3 (27:14):
What do you kind of see ors?

Speaker 1 (27:15):
It's just everything because people are so upset with what
Biden's doing to this country.

Speaker 16 (27:20):
The number one issue right now with voters is kitchen table,
pocketbook issues. It's the inflation, it's the cost of living.
You know, we just did some recent focus groups and
what these and these are swing voters, many of who
actually voted for Joe Biden last time. They tell you,
everything you do as soon as you wake up in

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the morning, it's more expensive. Whether you're going to get
a cup of coffee, whether you're going to the gas station,
whether you were going to the grocery store. Everything has
gotten more expensive. And one of the things they're seeing
with Joe Biden right now is he was telling everybody
the other night that the State of the Union address
that the economy's doing great, we have low unemployment, blah

(28:04):
blah blah. In that national survey that we just did,
fifty seven percent of Americans said the economy is in
a recession right now, fifty seven percent and sixty three
percent said it's getting worse. So what's happening right now
is those voters that you're talking about, Natalie, they're looking
at things like inflation, they're looking at their pocketbooks, but

(28:27):
then they see immigration, they look at their schools, being
closed down. They want the mass off the kids, they
want more school choice, and you're right, they don't like
a lot of the things that their kids are being taught,
and they saw that when their kids were at home learning.

Speaker 3 (28:42):
It's so interesting.

Speaker 1 (28:43):
And even when you look at that Seapack stophole, the Republicans,
or at least the people at Seapac, they're upset at Republicans.
There was forty five percent disapproval of what Republicans in Congress,
which would be the establishment. So this movement, it's against
the Democrats, but it's also against the establishment Republicans, and
starting in this primary season, no.

Speaker 8 (29:03):
Doubt about it.

Speaker 16 (29:04):
And what we're seeing in a lot of these elections
right now is voters aren't looking to Washington for solutions.
They're looking for folks that aren't politicians, that are outsiders,
that are reformers right now. And look, part of that
is frustration right now because they see all the failures
that are going on with the Biden administration. Skyrocketing inflation, immigration,

(29:27):
you know, we basically, I mean that was laughable the
other night when he said he wants to secure the border.

Speaker 8 (29:32):
I mean, are you kidding me?

Speaker 16 (29:33):
I mean, this guy has given us open borders, we
have the rising crime ry, and now we have World
War three breaking out over in the Ukraine. And there's
a real frustration with voters right now over all this.
It's and look, they want they want Republicans to fight
even harder against Joe Biden, and they get it. I mean,

(29:54):
you know, that was the one thing we saw. Joe
Biden had a ninety nine percent rating with the uh
uh with with the voters at Seapac did you meet
I think a couple of the mainstream media.

Speaker 8 (30:12):
They got into the straw pole. But think about.

Speaker 16 (30:14):
That ninety nine percent. I never would have thought that
Joe Biden could have become more unpopular than Barack Obama
and Hillary Clinton with the base. But he is even
more unpopular. And when I ask voters what is it
you don't like about Joe Biden, they use some very
harsh terms. It's not just he's too liberal, et cetera.

(30:36):
They say he's incompetent. They say he's a Marxist, they
say he's a socialist. They say things like he's anti American.
And these aren't the typical things that they say when
it comes to a politician. And I think It just
goes to show you the big problem is with him.
He's gotten way too far to the radical left. And
it's not a little left, it's way too far to

(30:57):
the left. And plus he's had all these fansilus on
the issues that matter most of voters.

Speaker 3 (31:02):
Well, it's amazing.

Speaker 1 (31:03):
Even when you look at CNN's polling, they always over
sample Democrats. But now when you over sample Democrats even
in their polls, Biden's numbers it's blowing them away. Even
see when they're going through the polls, they just can't
believe how bad it is.

Speaker 16 (31:17):
Here's here's a number for you. You know, a last
national among voters that were favorable to Barack Obama, a
third of them disapproved of the job that Joe Biden
is doing. Those are Barack Obama's favorables, and a third
of them disapproved of the job he was doing. And
that's one of the big differences. You know, I had,

(31:38):
you know, a reporter the other day asked me and
say that, well, you know, Donald Trump was unpopular. He
was never unpopular like this, And the truth is, when
you did real surveys, his job approval rating was never
really out of the mid forties. For the most part,
even at the worst of times. And the other big difference,

(32:00):
and says Donald Trump's base was always with him. They
were always energized no matter what. And right now you've
got about one out of five Democrats that disapprove of
the job that Joe Biden is doing. He's upside down
among Hispanic voters, so he's got real problems.

Speaker 1 (32:17):
Biden never had a base, he just had a basement.
And really, when you see what's happening to the country now,
it's just as unbelievable, Jim. But it was exciting to
be with you at Sea Pac because when you see
the momentum, when you see the movement growing, you realize
we are going to take back our country.

Speaker 3 (32:31):
We are going to save America. Thank you for the
work you're doing. Again.

Speaker 1 (32:34):
The polling is just amazing to see how low can
Biden go and how high can President Trump go.

Speaker 3 (32:38):
It's exciting.

Speaker 16 (32:40):
Thank you, and the pleasure was all mine, Natalie.

Speaker 3 (32:42):
Always great to see you, Jim. We'll see us soon.

Speaker 1 (32:44):
And as we talk midterms, Michigan is definitely a state
to watch, especially in the primaries. Matt to Perno is
up next with the latest on his race to be
Michigan's next Attorney General to an uncle anywhere, We'll be
right back.

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Speaker 1 (33:21):
April twenty third, That's the date the Michigan Republican Party
will be holding its endorsement convention, and in advance of it,
President Trump sent a letter to each delegate in support
of Matt to perno for Michigan Attorney General, writing, we
have an opportunity to ride a magawave because of the
failing Biden, Whitmer and Nessel administrations. The first step in

(33:42):
this redwave starts with you, the precinct delegates. You need
to nominate America First candidates like Matt who voters can
get energized and excited about joining us. Now with more
on this, the candidate himself, who has President Trump's complete
and total endorsement for Michigan Attorney General, Matt Matt.

Speaker 3 (34:01):
First of all, your race.

Speaker 1 (34:03):
You have a big rhino in the race who's lost
in the past.

Speaker 3 (34:06):
Can you tell us about him?

Speaker 8 (34:09):
Yeah?

Speaker 12 (34:09):
Thanks for having me, Natalie.

Speaker 19 (34:11):
So, my opponent is a veteran of the House of
Representatives in Michigan, a establishment person who I call a
milk toast progressive lobbyist because he is a lobbyist.

Speaker 12 (34:25):
He's lost to Dana Nessel in the past. He has the.

Speaker 19 (34:29):
Support of the establishment in Lansing. But we're going to
change that. We've built a huge grassroots network across the state.
We've got hundreds of volunteers working everyday contacting delegates, and
we're going to change the way this state operates once
I get elected and defeat Dana Nessel in the fall.

Speaker 1 (34:50):
It's so exciting, really to see the America First movement
that's growing, because if you get bad candidates in the primaries,
if you get a rhino like this guy who has
that loser mentality, President Trump calls it. This is a
casic guy that's running who's lost in the past. We
can't do business with candidates like that because they do
more damage than the Democrats. We need a fighter like

(35:11):
you that's been out there really fighting for the integrity
of Michigan's elections, America's elections. Do you feel like you're
gaining support among the delegates, based on President Trump's letter
and just based on conversations that you're having.

Speaker 8 (35:25):
Oh.

Speaker 19 (35:25):
Absolutely, And this is the fourth endorsement for me that
President Trump has put out. We've seen what just happened
in Texas the other night. We saw what happened at
Seapack with the straw pole. And here's the thing. Over
the last two years, I've been out fighting for people
like you and me, people who had their businesses shut

(35:47):
down from Whitmer's lockdown orders. I've been fighting for people
against mask mandates and vax mandates. I've been fighting against
critical race theory. I've actually been doing this work on
the ground, fighting for people. As I always say, never
submit to tyranny now on my opponent. In September of
twenty twenty, gave an interview with Crane's Business Detroit, and

(36:10):
in that interview they asked him, what have you been
doing since you lost to Dana Nessel in twenty eighteen,
and his response was remarkable. He said that because of coronavirus,
he'd been in his basement counseling people, counseling lobbyist organizations
because he is a registered lobbyist. He submitted to tyranny

(36:33):
he stayed in his basement. I went out and fought
for everyone in this state, and the delegates realized that,
and our support is continuing to grow every day.

Speaker 1 (36:43):
He sounds like basement Biden. How old does he think
that's going to turn out for him unless he.

Speaker 3 (36:48):
Expects things to be rigged.

Speaker 1 (36:49):
But you've been fighting so hard, really for election and integrity,
And as you're talking to voters in the primary, we
saw that Seapack straw Pole election integrity is the number
one issue. Do you see that as the number one
issue at least in the primaries or is it an
anti establishment sentiment or all of the above.

Speaker 12 (37:07):
Well, all of the above. Everywhere I go every night,
just like last night.

Speaker 19 (37:11):
For instance, I can go to events where there's one
hundred or two hundred people.

Speaker 12 (37:16):
I could do my best.

Speaker 19 (37:17):
If I wanted, and never mention the lawsuit I filed
in Antrim County, and those people will hold me accountable.
They will not let me get away with it. They
want to hear about it. They force everyone to talk
about it rightly. So because it is still the number
one issue in this state, at least eighty percent of

(37:37):
the people I talked to rate it as the number
one issue. They say the election was stolen in twenty twenty,
they have not forgotten. And more importantly, they also know
Donald Trump is still the leader of this party. He
tweets every day by adjunct people or surrogates. He always

(37:59):
is to talking about the issues, and he's very active
in telling everyone what he thinks. And this letter that
he sent down on Sunday does just that. It is
a hard hitting letter. It is as I've heard from
people in Lansing who have contacted me, they say this
letter finally, they say someone has said the quiet part

(38:20):
out loud.

Speaker 12 (38:21):
He said what people in Lancing have been thinking for years.

Speaker 1 (38:26):
It's so amazing really when you think about the establishment.
We talk about it on the national scale, but also
at the state scale. We've really seen it in the
state houses, in the state senates. People that have been
stonewalling that are so called Republicans, they're not Republicans, they're Democrats.
They're often worse than the Democrats. And you've really had
to go up against the establishment in your race. And

(38:48):
really it's exciting though to see if the delegates on
the ground really have that anti establishment mentality, then Michigan
can get back to putting Michigan first, to putting America first.

Speaker 19 (39:00):
Absolutely, and we see that we are signing up new
delegates all the time.

Speaker 12 (39:05):
These people. There's been a great awakening, let's put it
that way. In Michigan.

Speaker 19 (39:10):
People now are starting to learn about the delegate system.
They've stayed quiet too long, and they are fighting for
their rights. Now they are standing up. They are saying,
we've had enough of this establishment. We want to take
our rights back. As I always say, it's time for
us to defend the constitution. We have to cling to

(39:31):
what's left of the Constitution and claw back everything that's
been taken in front of us. And I'm the candidate
to do that. I'm going to go to Lansing. I'm
going to change the way the Attorney General's office works.
It's no longer going to be the law firm for
the governor and to protect scandal. It's going to be
the law firm for the people. We are going to

(39:51):
restore Michigan back to a constitutional republic.

Speaker 1 (39:55):
And you're going to be with President Trump next week.
Can you tell us about that real quick?

Speaker 19 (39:59):
Yeah, this is real exciting. We have an event at
mar A Lago. It's turning out to be one of
the biggest fundraising events at mar A Lago this year,
and this is real exciting. We're bringing people from across
the country. My support is not just in Michigan, and
that's what's so amazing. We have support from across this

(40:20):
country of people flying in from different states who are
coming to support me because they know that the attorney
general race should no longer be just a Michigan event.
These races have national implications. Just imagine if we had
one attorney general in the last election who stood up

(40:41):
for what happened and fought against the Democrats in these
seven seven swing states, there could have been something done
about that election. So people realize we need good quality
people in these spots.

Speaker 12 (40:55):
These are no longer just state races.

Speaker 1 (40:57):
And now your website, we're going to put it up
on the screen so you can support your movement. Because really,
what you're doing to save Michigan, thank you. It takes
a lot of courage, but you have that courage. You've
had it from the very beginning. So God bless you.
Keep us posting on your efforts and we're looking forward
to watching you make a big win, especially against the
first anti first establishment candidate. We've got to get rid
of the establishment. You're the anti establishment candidate.

Speaker 19 (41:20):
Thank you very much, Natalie God bless you. Thanks for
having me on and we'll see you again.

Speaker 1 (41:24):
We'll look forward to seeing you soon and still to come.
On the real story, I'm asking the truth behind Biden's
recent about face on mask mandates.

Speaker 3 (41:32):
We'll be right back.

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Speaker 20 (41:59):
This is an assessment from a poll not from medical science.
Two thirds of parents and eighty percent of teachers say
the pandemic caused learning loss, and voters are overwhelmingly more
worried about learning loss than kids getting COVID. Six and
ten Americans described themselves as worn out by the pandemic.
The more we and they're talking about Democrat elected leaders

(42:21):
right here, the more we talk about the threat of
COVID and onerously restricting people's lives because of it, the
more we turn them against us and show them we're
out of touch with their daily realities. I wish that
was medical science that they were basing decisions on, but
it was a poll just days before the stately Union

(42:41):
that got them to change course.

Speaker 1 (42:44):
The politics behind COVID nineteen and the masking of America
House Minority Whip Steve Scalise is exposing Team Biden, accusing
the administration and the Centers for Disease Control of relaxing
masking rules. Now the Democrats poll numbers are tanking and
the midterms are right around the corner.

Speaker 20 (43:04):
We have had this COVID miracle in the last few days,
just in time for President Biden stated the Union.

Speaker 8 (43:10):
Address last night.

Speaker 20 (43:12):
We saw just days ago Biden's Centers for Disease Control
and Prevention finally update its mask guidelines. The new guidelines
mean that instead of recommending nearly the entire country mask indoors,
now only twenty eight percent are recommended to do so.
So overnight, more than seventy percent of the country, including
kids in school, don't have to mask anymore. During the campaign,

(43:33):
Joe Biden promised repeatedly to quote follow the science, but
apparently the science changes when his polling changes. The American
people see right through these masking political theater guidelines and
will never forget how they played politics with our children
by shuddering their schools and masking their faces, even as

(43:53):
doctors were noting the harm that those mandates were causing
to our children. People have lost faith in the CDC,
and this brazen political stunt has further eroding what trust
was left.

Speaker 1 (44:06):
Florida Governor Ron De Santis is also hammering Team Biden
over its draconian mask mandates and criticizing Democrats for all
of a sudden wanting to follow in the footsteps of
the Sunshine State.

Speaker 21 (44:18):
Now it's like, you know, we all want to be
like Florida all of a sudden, and nothing has changed.
There's been no change in the underlying science. The ineffectiveness
of those policies was a parent long ago. The destructiveness
of those policies was a parent long ago. And they
were the ones that were dipping their nose into Florida's

(44:40):
business last summer, saying that two year old kids needed
to be forced masks when they leave the house, saying
that school children had to wear masks for eight hours
a day.

Speaker 1 (44:51):
Despite this latest purely political maneuver by Team Biden to
curry favor with the public, some members of the administration
are still sending mixed mess including Biden's own COVID nineteen
advisor Jeffrey Science.

Speaker 22 (45:06):
Last week's guidance from CDC on masking did not change
air and rail travel requirements, including the requirements to wear
a mask on public transportation. Those requirements are currently in
place through March eighteenth, and they'll continue to be so
while we evaluate leading up to March eighteenth the duration

(45:28):
of the requirement based on the state of the.

Speaker 12 (45:32):
Virus.

Speaker 22 (45:32):
So no change, but an evaluation taking place at this point.

Speaker 1 (45:37):
It's no wonder the American people are confused and frustrated
with the ever changing guidelines and overreaching mandates, and Democrat
indifference to their own rules isn't helping.

Speaker 20 (45:47):
Prominent Democrats have been caught ignoring their own masking rules
while forcing those same rules on children. For the last
two years, Liberal elites have been spotted without masks at
hair salon's, the met gala, national football games, fancy restaurants,
and many many more, while those same hypocritical leaders shamed
others who didn't comply with their nonsensical mandates.

Speaker 1 (46:11):
And of course, our hypocrite in chief is leading by example,
selectively wearing his face covering depending on the day of
the week, apparently joining us now President of the Heritage Foundation,
Kevin Roberts Kevin crazy. Nancy often says that they're doing
everything for the children, but it looks like they're doing
everything for themselves.

Speaker 6 (46:31):
That's right, Natalie Speaker, Pelosi, President Biden, the Vice President
are just drunk on power. This is not about science.
It's about controlling all of us. It's about, unfortunately, controlling
our kids. I think about all of the examples of
the people we mentioned of crazy superintendents of local school
districts who even this day, as you and I sit
here and have this conversation, insist that five year old

(46:54):
kids need to be wearing masks. It is not conspiracy
to say this is about controlling us, about controlling our future.
And that is why all of us at the Heritage
Foundation every day say.

Speaker 8 (47:05):
Enough is enough.

Speaker 6 (47:06):
It's time to draw a line in the sand and
take America back from these folks.

Speaker 1 (47:10):
It seems every time the left talks about education now
it's only about critical race theory or COVID nineteen. Why
don't they talk about the actual subjects, the actual learning,
Except they don't really see it as kids learning it's
just about indoctrination.

Speaker 6 (47:24):
Well two, that's right, two reasons. One of them is
what you just said, it's about adoctrination. Look, I spent
many years in higher education, often as the lone conservative
in my department, as a historian, and I can tell
you twenty years ago I started getting worried not just
about the leftist bent of those professors, but that they
were up to something really big. Now, I'm a historian,
I'm not a soothsayer. I can't read the future. But

(47:45):
what I suspected then is what has happened, and it's
this They want to control us with their indoctrination. The
second thing, and it's a little more optimistic, is that Americans,
many of whom are apolitical, have realized this is the game.
They've decided to stand up against these folks. And I
think we ought to take heart that millions of Americans
and standing up against their school districts are giving us

(48:08):
the signal if we're courageous enough to follow it and
take back our schools and our institutions.

Speaker 1 (48:13):
We saw it in Virginia, we saw it in San
Francisco only recently. It's amazing that the Democrats don't learn
you think they would realize this is a losing issue.
To try to replace parents and say no, we get
to make decisions for your kids. That's not winning amongst Democrats, Independents,
or Republicans. But I guess they just don't know anything
better than to just double down, because they really are

(48:35):
it's an ideology. It's really a religion to them, a
cult at this point, Well it really is.

Speaker 6 (48:40):
And that is not an overstatement to say that it's
a cult. You and I both know that it's true.
Your audience knows that. So let me just say we
all ought to take heart from what my friend Steve
Scale said he was reading those poll results the Democrats.
This is sort of a bad news good news thing.
The bad news is what you said. The bad news
is that the Democrats always double down. The good news
is even though the midterm elections are only in November

(49:03):
and there are several months to turn this around for them,
they're not going to do it. They have come to
this realization too late. Look At there's just the thud
that the State of the Union speech was. Look At
the response by the American people to Biden's leadership and
foreign affairs and domestic affairs. The bad news is we've
got to endure this for several more months. But the
good news is the cavalry is on the way. If

(49:24):
we're willing to seize the moment and if this is
really important, Natalie, the Conservatives who are elected based on
all of this angst when they take office actually governs conservatives.
Heritage will make sure that we're holding their feet to
the fire every day.

Speaker 1 (49:38):
You're so right, it can't just be a campaign issue.
Just as Democrats do. They campaign on certain things and
then they govern and legislate the complete opposite.

Speaker 3 (49:46):
And that's Biden.

Speaker 1 (49:47):
In some case he ran as a moderate, though everyone
really realized he wasn't a moderate when he kept flip
flopping on issues like abortion. This really is a socialist
communist party at this point that doesn't know how to moderate.

Speaker 3 (50:00):
So some Democrats.

Speaker 1 (50:00):
There was one in Texas, a state rep that actually
switched parties because he saw too that the Democrat party
left him.

Speaker 6 (50:08):
Well, as you know, I was in Texas for many
years before becoming president of the Heritage Foundation, and I
know Ryan Gian, that Democrat who flipped. And Ryan Gian
from the south of Texas reminds me of the Democrats.
I grew up with people and my own family in
Louisiana who, as we like to say, are blue dog Democrats.
They are always conservative. One of the tragedies in American

(50:29):
politics is that the Democrat Party has learnt so far
to the left, very much along the lines of what
you said. It's a socialist, communist apparatus. Basically that very
reasonable people Ryan Gien and scores of people across Texas
in the country simply can't be members of the party.
But in that too is good news, provided that we're
articulating a bold mission, a bold vision from our side

(50:52):
to take back this country. And very importantly, to harp
on this tonight, we've got to be sure that our
conservatives in office govern like conservatives. Otherwise we're going to
miss the opportunity.

Speaker 1 (51:04):
You're so right, and it's so exciting to see the
Republican Party really change because now you have conservative Democrats,
conservative independence Republicans. It's really becoming the party of the
people against the establishment, because we see what the establishment
has done to us for so many years, and the
people aren't taking it anymore. Kevin, thank you for the
good work you're doing out there. It's so great to
see you at SEAPAC last week and we'll look forward

(51:25):
to seeing you again soon.

Speaker 6 (51:27):
Thanks for having me, Natalie, keep up the great work.

Speaker 3 (51:29):
Awesome you too.

Speaker 1 (51:29):
Thank you, And before we go, let's take a moment
to honor the energy workers across this country who Biden
has forgotten but we never will.

Speaker 23 (51:39):
Nation bills and maintains pipelines and pumps, oil rigs and runways,
bridges and oilers. Operators get the job done with unmatched
excellence and skill. There is nobody like you, nobody. We
put thousands and thousands of patriotic union members like.

Speaker 3 (51:57):
You to work building our energy future.

Speaker 8 (52:00):
So now more than ever.

Speaker 23 (52:01):
Our nation needs dedicated operators like all of you, with
incredible grit and talent and spirit. You lay the pipes
that power our industries.

Speaker 8 (52:09):
You raise the beams that.

Speaker 23 (52:11):
Build our skyscrapers. And you are the men and women
who get up every day and make this country run
and frankly, make this country great. Thank you to the
extraordinary devotion of all of you to our country. Together
we are making America stronger and prouder and greater.

Speaker 16 (52:28):
Than ever before.

Speaker 23 (52:29):
God bless you all, and God bless America.

Speaker 1 (52:31):
Thank you, Thank you, We may have taken you for
granted before without realizing it, but not anymore, and that
is a real story. Good Night, I'll see you tomorrow.
So until then, as always, keep the faith. With God's
help we will save America.