The Rest Is Money

The Rest Is Money

Robert Peston and Steph McGovern bring you insightful business and finance stories. Join Robert Peston and Steph McGovern as they delve into the key challenges and opportunities facing today’s business world. From the complexities of tech investments to the impact of political decisions on global markets, this podcast offers valuable perspectives on current financial topics. Whether discussing business funding, economic policies, or corporate strategies, they provide listeners with the tools to understand today’s fast-evolving market. Each episode brings expert analysis on important issues, including market regulations, economic recovery, and the forces shaping the future of work. Robert and Steph bring you the latest insights from influential leaders and top entrepreneurs, making this podcast a must-listen for anyone interested in business growth, financial trends, and the evolving economic landscape. For more Goalhanger Podcasts, head to www.goalhanger.com.

Episodes

November 5, 2025 33 mins
Did the Chancellor’s pre-budget speech work? Why should she increase the basic rate of income tax? Is it time to abolish the pensioner’s triple lock?   Robert asks economist Jim O’Neill about the advice he’s been giving the treasury ahead of the budget. Visit: https://www.gov.uk/teachinfurthereducation to find out more Email: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠restismoney@gmail.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠...
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Can the truce between Trump and Xi hold? What should Starmer do now to prepare for the coming AI shock? And how can Reeves’s budget combine tax rises with growth stimulation? Robert talks with Mohamed El-Erian, Professor at the Wharton School of the University of Pennsylvania. Get started today at https://www.HubSpot.com  For investing, savings, and pensions, the smart money’s with Wealthify. Open your account today at htt...
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October 29, 2025 37 mins
How can investors compel companies to pay the “real” living wage and stop selling foods that make us obese? Can anyone with a pension put pressure on businesses? Why are American fund managers so scared of Trump? Robert speaks to Catherine Howarth, Chief Executive of ShareAction, the leading European NGO that tries to make big business act responsibly. Get started today at https://www.HubSpot.com  Find out how Google AI is...
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October 26, 2025 35 mins
What role can tax play in reviving the UK? Is Trump a protectionist or free trader at heart? What does the economist who inspired Truss make of her notorious budget? Robert speaks with the acclaimed economist Art Laffer about how he draws the most famous curve in economics. For investing, savings, and pensions, the smart money’s with Wealthify. Open your account today at https://www.wealthify.com. Wealthify is authorised a...
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Should the budget stop the avoidance of employers’ national insurance by the UK’s highest paid professions? How does the government restore the confidence of its creditors? Are we facing a private credit crash? Robert discusses with Chief Market Strategist of JP Morgan Asset Management Europe, Karen Ward. Find out more about how Google’s AI is helping fuel the UK’s growth and transformation and read the report at goo.gle/aiw...
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How can Rachel Reeves deliver a budget that means she won’t have to raise taxes again next year? What would rational tax reform look like? Should this be the budget when they finally raise fuel duty in line with the escalator? Robert chats to the new Director of the IFS, Helen Miller. Find out more about how Google’s AI is helping fuel the UK’s growth and transformation and read the report at goo.gle/aiworks. Email: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠...
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October 15, 2025 42 mins
Why have graduate job vacancies collapsed? How is AI changing how we work? How can companies become forces for good? Robert Peston chats with James Reed, author of Karma Capitalism and chair of the UK's largest digital recruitment service, Reed. Find out more about how Google’s AI is helping fuel the UK’s growth and transformation and read the report at goo.gle/aiworks. Email: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠restismon...
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October 12, 2025 41 mins
How big is the AI bubble? When it bursts, who will be hurt? What impact on jobs and wages in artificial intelligence having now? Robert discusses with Azeem Azhar, founder of Exponential View and tech investor. Find out more about how Google’s AI is helping fuel the UK’s growth and transformation and read the report at goo.gle/aiworks. Email: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠restismoney@gmail.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠...
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October 8, 2025 46 mins
What is Badenoch’s new fiscal Golden Rule? How many vulnerable people would be hurt by their planned welfare cuts? Why would the Tories slash overseas aid again? At the end of Tory conference, Robert talks with Shadow Chancellor, Mel Stride. Find out more about how Google’s AI is helping fuel the UK’s growth and transformation and read the report at goo.gle/aiworks. Email: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠restismoney@gmai...
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Why don't companies want to list in London anymore? Why is this damaging for all of us? How much will it cost the Treasury in lost tax if companies follow AstraZeneca's example and list in the US? Robert and Steph discuss the LSE's fall out of the top 20 world markets for companies that raise money and what can be done about it. Find out more about how Google’s AI is helping fuel the UK’s growth and transformation and read t...
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October 1, 2025 46 mins
Will any of the schemes and policies announced at Labour’s conference actually much us richer? Will the Chancellor be bailed out in her budget by inflation? How many forecasts does Reeves really need? Steph and Robert discuss with former IFS Director and Provost of The Queen’s College Oxford, Paul Johnson. Visit https://www.gov.uk/teachinfurthereducation in further education to find out more. Email: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠...
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September 28, 2025 36 mins
What are the tax solutions to Reeves’s budget crisis? What tax changes would encourage growth? Can she afford to scrap the two-child benefit cap? Steph and Robert speak to former Director of Fiscal Policy at the Treasury and current Chief Executive of the Resolution Foundation Ruth Curtice. For investing, savings, and pensions, the smart money’s with Wealthify. Open your account today at https://www.wealthify.com Wealthify...
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Who is to blame for the £30bn of taxes Reeves needs to raise in the budget? Is Starmer’s big dream to turn the north east into an AI powerhouse pie in the sky? Can the Midlands car industry recover from the calamitous cyber attack on JLR? Robert and Steph discuss all this and more. Find out more about how Google’s AI is helping fuel the UK’s growth and transformation and read the report at goo.gle/aiworks. Email: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠...
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How do we cut poor countries’ debts without rewarding corrupt dictators? After Trump’s abandonment of aid to developing countries, will poverty and disease be unstoppable? How do we restore hope? Robert is joined by Helle Thorning Schmitt, former Danish Prime Minister to discuss how we stay hopeful in a world of such extreme challenges Robert is joined by former Danish Prime Minister and ex- head of Save the Children, Helle Tho...
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Should we worry that all our AI infrastructure will be owned by US firms? How can we turn schools and colleges into the drivers of economic recovery? How much of education and investment power should be transferred from Westminster to mayors?  Steph and Robert speak with Andy Haldane, former Chief Economist at the Bank of England about his influential report on boosting regional prosperity Email: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠r...
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What are the Reform leader’s tax arrangements? Do the party leaders really publish their tax returns? Has there ever been a financially dodgier Prime Minister than Winston Churchill? Robert and Steph speak to tax expect and friend of the show, Dan Neidle Email: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠restismoney@gmail.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ X: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@TheRestIsMoney⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Instagram: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠...
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Why do politicians hang out with billionaires? Are they a problem for democracy? What happens when a wealthy venture capitalist starts lobbying British institutions? Steph and Robert look at how the mega-rich have their fingers in everything from art to politics and discuss why it matters. Visit https://www.gov.uk/teach in further education to find out more. Email: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠restismoney@gmail.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠...
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Who is Nigel Farage inspired by when it comes to Reform’s plans for the economy? What does Starmer’s reshuffle mean for business, skills and employment law? And which minister refused to move? Robert and Steph discuss the aftermath of reshuffles and defections. Email: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠restismoney@gmail.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ X: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@TheRestIsMoney⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Instagram: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠...
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How much is Reeves to blame for surging government borrowing costs? Has she made another error by maximising uncertainty with the long wait to the budget? How could she mend public finances? Robert and Steph discuss why this coming budget could be the most important of the parliament. ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Sign up to our newsletter⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ to get more stories from the world of business and finance. Email: ⁠...
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Is economic policy or economic messaging more important? What single “mission” should energise the whole government? How does Trump cut taxes for the super rich and keep the support of the low-income earners? Steph and Robert discuss with Professor Mariana Mazzucato, author of Mission Economy: A Moonshot Guide to Changing Capitalism. ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Sign up to our newsletter⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ to get more stories fr...
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