The Rest Is Money

The Rest Is Money

Robert Peston and Steph McGovern bring you insightful business and finance stories. Join Robert Peston and Steph McGovern as they delve into the key challenges and opportunities facing today’s business world. From the complexities of tech investments to the impact of political decisions on global markets, this podcast offers valuable perspectives on current financial topics. Whether discussing business funding, economic policies, or corporate strategies, they provide listeners with the tools to understand today’s fast-evolving market. Each episode brings expert analysis on important issues, including market regulations, economic recovery, and the forces shaping the future of work. Robert and Steph bring you the latest insights from influential leaders and top entrepreneurs, making this podcast a must-listen for anyone interested in business growth, financial trends, and the evolving economic landscape. For more Goalhanger Podcasts, head to www.goalhanger.com.

Episodes

210. Can The Government Save The UK Car Industry From The Cyber Attack On JLR?

September 24, 2025 • 44 mins
Who is to blame for the £30bn of taxes Reeves needs to raise in the budget? Is Starmer’s big dream to turn the north east into an AI powerhouse pie in the sky? Can the Midlands car industry recover from the calamitous cyber attack on JLR? Robert and Steph discuss all this and more. Find out more about how Google’s AI is helping fuel the UK’s growth and transformation and read the report at goo.gle/aiworks. Email: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠...
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209. Why We Can’t Abandon The World’s Poor

September 21, 2025 • 33 mins
How do we cut poor countries’ debts without rewarding corrupt dictators? After Trump’s abandonment of aid to developing countries, will poverty and disease be unstoppable? How do we restore hope? Robert is joined by Helle Thorning Schmitt, former Danish Prime Minister to discuss how we stay hopeful in a world of such extreme challenges Robert is joined by former Danish Prime Minister and ex- head of Save the Children, Helle Tho...
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208. Have We Just Surrendered Our Economic Independence To The US?

September 17, 2025 • 35 mins
Should we worry that all our AI infrastructure will be owned by US firms? How can we turn schools and colleges into the drivers of economic recovery? How much of education and investment power should be transferred from Westminster to mayors?  Steph and Robert speak with Andy Haldane, former Chief Economist at the Bank of England about his influential report on boosting regional prosperity Email: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠r...
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207. What Can We Learn About Farage’s Finances From His Accounts?

September 14, 2025 • 42 mins
What are the Reform leader’s tax arrangements? Do the party leaders really publish their tax returns? Has there ever been a financially dodgier Prime Minister than Winston Churchill? Robert and Steph speak to tax expect and friend of the show, Dan Neidle Email: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠restismoney@gmail.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ X: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@TheRestIsMoney⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Instagram: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠...
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206. Will Starmer Sack Mandelson Over Epstein?

September 10, 2025 • 36 mins
Why do politicians hang out with billionaires? Are they a problem for democracy? What happens when a wealthy venture capitalist starts lobbying British institutions? Steph and Robert look at how the mega-rich have their fingers in everything from art to politics and discuss why it matters. Visit https://www.gov.uk/teach in further education to find out more. Email: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠restismoney@gmail.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠...
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205. Are Reform Looking For An Argentine Tango?

September 7, 2025 • 39 mins
Who is Nigel Farage inspired by when it comes to Reform’s plans for the economy? What does Starmer’s reshuffle mean for business, skills and employment law? And which minister refused to move? Robert and Steph discuss the aftermath of reshuffles and defections. Email: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠restismoney@gmail.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ X: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@TheRestIsMoney⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Instagram: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠...
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204. Will The Late Late Budget Heal Or Harm?

September 3, 2025 • 39 mins
How much is Reeves to blame for surging government borrowing costs? Has she made another error by maximising uncertainty with the long wait to the budget? How could she mend public finances? Robert and Steph discuss why this coming budget could be the most important of the parliament. ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Sign up to our newsletter⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ to get more stories from the world of business and finance. Email: ⁠...
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203. How To Beat Farage And The Populists

August 31, 2025 • 40 mins
Is economic policy or economic messaging more important? What single “mission” should energise the whole government? How does Trump cut taxes for the super rich and keep the support of the low-income earners? Steph and Robert discuss with Professor Mariana Mazzucato, author of Mission Economy: A Moonshot Guide to Changing Capitalism. ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Sign up to our newsletter⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ to get more stories fr...
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202. What's The Cost Of Trump Controlling The Fed?

August 27, 2025 • 37 mins
Is there a political case for Trump’s attempt to control America’s central bank? How close are the UK and France to debt crises? How is Starmer trying to exercise more control over Reeves and the Treasury? Robert and Steph explain. ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Sign up to our newsletter⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ to get more stories from the world of business and finance. Email: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠restismoney@gmail.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠...
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201. Which Taxes Will Rachel Reeves Raise This Autumn?

August 24, 2025 • 34 mins
Would an annual charge on properties valued over £500,000 be fairer than stamp duty? Will the Chancellor eventually have to scrap the manifesto promise and raise taxes on ‘working people’? How much could the Treasury raise by lowering VAT but getting rid of all exemptions? Steph chats to tax policy expert, and friend of the show, Dan Neidle. ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Sign up to our newsletter⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ to get more stories...
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200. Should Asylum Seekers Be Given Jobs?

August 20, 2025 • 37 mins
Is immigration good or bad for economic growth? Why are we spending so much money on things like migrant hotels? Can we support our ageing population without migrants? Steph speaks to migration and asylum expert and policy maker, Zoe Gardner. ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Sign up to our newsletter⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ to get more stories from the world of business and finance. Email: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠restismoney@gmail.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠...
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199. When George Osborne Went After The Bankers, I Went To Prison

August 17, 2025 • 35 mins
Who were the traders who took the hit when the public turned on the City after the financial crisis? How did Tom Hayes lose his marriage, all his savings and his freedom in a case that has since been over-turned by the Supreme Court? Why will he get no compensation? In the second part of this two-episode interview, Robert talks to Tom Hayes about how he lost everything when he took the rap for the flaws in the LIbor interest rat...
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198. The Trader Who Paid For The Financial Crisis

August 13, 2025 • 30 mins
Why did the authorities jail LIBOR trader Tom Hayes when so many reckless bankers went unpunished? How was Libor so central to the multi trillion dollar financial system? What did Hayes do to put himself in the firing line? In the first part of a two-part series, Robert talks to Tom Hayes and shines a light on the true Libor scandal. It isn’t what you think. ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Sign up to our newsletter⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ to get...
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197. How Close Is The UK To A Lethal Debt Spiral?

August 10, 2025 • 26 mins
Is the government already in a debt trap, where the economy can’t grow fast enough to cover its rising interest bill? Can the government spur economic growth enough to rescue the UK from relentless tax rises and spending squeezes? How should the machinery of government be reformed to turn a growth mission into a practical reality? Robert and Steph look at the warning from the respected NIESR that a debt trap may be an imminent ...
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196. Will Low Income Voters Ever Turn On Trump?

August 6, 2025 • 29 mins
How much harm to the collective solidarity of nations has been done by America’s resurgent nationalism? Can the global economy absorb the costs of Trump’s tariffs without a slump? Is there any case for Trump’s new 50% tariffs on India? Robert speaks with Philip Coggan, former Economist columnist about his new book The Economic Consequences of Mr Trump. We appreciate your feedback on The Rest Is Money to help make the podcast ...
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195. Why The EU Accepted A Raw Deal With Trump

August 3, 2025 • 34 mins
What are the repercussions of global trade deals being put together with little to no detail in the actual agreements? How has the US President convinced the European Commission to agree to purchase $600bn worth of US energy products when it doesn’t have the mechanism to do so? Did Trump end up winning his game of "4D chess" with the global markets? Steph speaks to The Economist’s Wall Street Editor, Mike Bird. We appreciate ...
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194. How A £600bn 'Ghost Market’ Is Being Neglected

July 30, 2025 • 36 mins
Why is the fastest growing demographic of shoppers not being properly catered for? What can retailers do to change that and make more money? And why is this important for the whole economy, not just the 15 million people in the UK directly affected by it? Steph speaks to Heather Jackson CEO of GenM about the economics of the menopause. We appreciate your feedback on The Rest Is Money to help make the podcast and our partners...
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193. How Labour Could Have Avoided Tax Rises

July 27, 2025 • 29 mins
Should Starmer and Reeves worry less about breaching the manifesto to restore growth? How could they have negotiated a better trade deal with the EU to avoid the black hole in the public finances and avoid tax rises? How and why have small businesses been dodging billions of pounds in taxes? Robert and Steph discuss. We appreciate your feedback on The Rest Is Money to help make the podcast and our partnerships better: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠...
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192. Can We Cope With Trump’s 15% Permanent Global Tariff?

July 23, 2025 • 27 mins
Why is Hewlett Packard still going after Mike Lynch’s money? Trump wants the US central bank boss out, but will it give him more control over interest rates? And how much are the trade tariffs hurting the US economy? Steph also finds out whether Robert’s predictions about 2025 are right after he said it would be the most influential year of our lives. We appreciate your feedback on The Rest Is Money to help make the podcast ...
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191. Is The Government’s British Business Bank Bold Enough?

July 20, 2025 • 38 mins
Is the British Business Bank taking enough risk to close the funding gap that holds back UK enterprises? How do we stop the unicorns relocating to the US? Do we need a new name for and whole new approach to pension savings? Steph and Robert talk to the government-owned bank’s chair Stephen Welton about what he’ll do with all the extra billions Rachel Reeves has allocated him to support small businesses. We appreciate your fe...
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