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July 16, 2025 39 mins
Organized crime and the Mafia have infested America for decades. Mob bosses like John Gotti and Joe Massino preyed on American industry and perpetrated crime through illegal rackets. In the end, they were brought down by the RICO act. Today there are still mobsters and though they look different, they still operate and conduct business in the same ways. The Mafia is a clear influence on new age gangsters in cities around the country like Philadelphia. Today we delve into "Fat Roc" , a gangster and a leader in a group called Omerta and Zoo Gang, two crime groups that operated in North Philadelphia. ALL OF THE INDIVIDUALS IN THIS VIDEO ARE INNOCENT UNTIL PROVEN GUILTY AND ALL OF THE INFORMATION IN THIS VIDEO CAME FROM FEDERAL INDICTMENTS THAT ARE PUBLIC RECORD.

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Jeff Nadu is an American Mafia and organized crime researcher, podcaster and content creator. He has worked at Barstool Sports and was hired personally by Dave Portnoy. His podcast "The Sitdown" with Jeff Nadu has put out hundreds of biographies on various mobsters, gangsters and criminals. He's also personally interviewed mobsters like Sammy "The Bull" Gravano, Dom Cicale, Anthony Ruggiano Jr, Gene Borrello and others as well as US Prosecutor John Gleeson and FBI Agents Joaquin "Jack" Garcia and Michael Campi. He has been personally endorsed by former Gambino mob captain Michael "Mikey Scars" DiLeonardo, esteemed author RJ Roger, and former Colombo Crime Family captain Michael Franzese.

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Speaker 1 (00:11):
Welcome to The sit Down, a mafia history podcast.

Speaker 2 (00:16):
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Speaker 1 (00:21):
What's up everybody, and welcome in to another edition of
the sit Down. I am your host, Jeff Nayd. This
is episode two hundred and nineteen of the podcast. As always,
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iTunes and all the other places. So thank you, as
always for listening. We are back better than ever. Another time,
another week, another sit Down, and this show this week.
As far as recording, I'm actually recording some of this
few days beforehand. I'm actually, as you were listening, I'm
actually traveling right now here on you know, when you

(01:05):
listen to it. On Wednesday, I'm out doing I'm going
out to LA and gonna be out there for a
couple of days, so doing.

Speaker 2 (01:12):
A little traveling.

Speaker 1 (01:13):
I'm gonna also go into the Jersey Shore later in
the month, so you know, summer calls for some traveling.
But the good thing about what I do is I
could always pre record or or I can load them in.
So today's show at least I want to talk before
today's show about last week. I really enjoyed last week's

(01:33):
show if you haven't heard it. Over an hour we
talked about the Idaho murder case, the plea of Ryan Coberger.

Speaker 2 (01:39):
It was nice to talk to Casey Smith.

Speaker 1 (01:40):
I love just sitting back chatting about crime in general.

Speaker 2 (01:44):
That was such a great show, and I'm really happy
that I could start doing that on this show.

Speaker 1 (01:48):
You know, we've always here on the podcast done so
many different types of shows, you know, whether it's Quartel's
or interviewing police officers or homicide detectives, or talking about
rogue cops or prison or you know, even true crime,
you know, So it's nice that we've had such a
mix here. And yeah, we've talked a lot about a mob,
like a lot about mob stuff and organized crime. But

(02:11):
I think we've really turned this into kind of an
equal opportunity crime podcast. So today we're gonna do that
as well. I got a really cool show plan for you.
I'm gonna talk more about the landscape of black America today,
as far as gangsters, as far as what do these
groups look like, and why does drill music, why does

(02:34):
social media play such a part Philadelphia right now is
jumping bad, and a lot of it has to do
with young people who are banding together in groups and
they are fighting each other. You know, it could be
a block separated by one street and they're going to
war and have going to war for years. We're gonna
talk today about a guy, Rakeem Savage, who really operated.

Speaker 2 (02:55):
Like a mob boss.

Speaker 1 (02:57):
You know, he's currently in federal prison and he's preparing
himself for a case. But this is a guy who
had multiple shooter groups for him.

Speaker 2 (03:06):
He was making money.

Speaker 1 (03:07):
You look at the one group we're going to talk
about today, they were actively hijacking, just like the Good
Fellow's Crew used to do, or John Gotti or Joe
Messino used to do. You really see the tenors of
old school mafia like behavior with some of these young
groups today. Now for these you know, two groups are
going to talk about today. One of them it was
all about making money. But the other group is strictly

(03:28):
just about how many bodies we can go out and
you know, do and how many people can we take out?
And it's about a scorecard. And that's the sad reality
of today in America streets. It's not necessarily about money.
It's about you disrespected me, or you disrespected the memory
of my brother or cousin or friend.

Speaker 2 (03:48):
You got to pay.

Speaker 1 (03:49):
And it's back and forth through social media and what
the police are doing to curb that. I mean, you
have to realize that in America's cities today there are
dozens of cops whose sole job it is to research
on people on Facebook and Instagram and all these different
social media sites.

Speaker 2 (04:08):
It's pretty unbelievable.

Speaker 1 (04:09):
And this is a story we're going to talk about
today that is playing itself out currently.

Speaker 2 (04:14):
Some of the violence that's happened in.

Speaker 1 (04:16):
North Philadelphia, West Philadelphia, South Philadelphia we're going to talk
about today. We're going to talk about America gang, which
which is really the sole kind of group that this
show gets into today. So that'll be cool. I'm looking
forward to chatting about that. As always, if you have
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Speaker 1 (06:54):
We're going to talk today about what black organized crime
looks like in one city in America, Philadelphia. This is
something I'm gonna definitely institute more of. I'm going to
tell you some of the sad, true stories that are
whether it's Philly or Chicago, New York, that are playing
themselves out right now in America cities.

Speaker 2 (07:14):
So let's get into it.

Speaker 1 (07:15):
Rakeem Savage an America gang on the sit Down Today,
ladies and gentlemen, we're going to get in to another
very interesting organized crime topic, and the most recognizable mobster
in the history of America is John Gotti. John Gotti
was polarizing, flashy, and influential. His name still though rings

(07:38):
bells in every criminal aspect there is. You could see
his influence in various criminal groups like cartels and other mobs.
Today in America, though, the mafia looks a lot different.
And what if I told you it wasn't Italians, it

(07:59):
wasn't Russians, it was black organized crime. The tenors of
John Gotti and American Coast and Oustra are still felt
today in cities around America.

Speaker 2 (08:10):
One of them is Philadelphia. Let's just be honest.

Speaker 1 (08:14):
Philadelphia has a major problem with criminals on the street.
Today today we're going to talk about one of them,
a man who could be referred to as the Black
John Gotti. The story of Rakim fat Rock Savage next

(08:34):
on the sit Down. Before we get in to Rakim
Savage and his racketeering enterprises, I want to first discuss
the one problem that all organized criminals have had for decades.

Speaker 2 (08:47):
It is the Rico Act.

Speaker 1 (08:49):
The Racketeering, Influenced and Corrupt Organizations Act, something that the
government used to prosecute people like the ones seen here
today it is still used and it is being used
and being used at a high level. Rakeem Savage was
born on May nineteenth, nineteen ninety eight, in Philadelphia. Now,

(09:12):
before we get in to the various indictments that are
against mister Savage, I think it's first important to understand
the city of Philadelphia and how truly gang ridden it is.
It's not necessarily the bloods and the crips, but it's
dozens of corner like gangs that control street corners. One

(09:34):
corner could be one group. You go two blocks over
and it's controlled by another group and they are rivals.
Some of the biggest street gangs or sets in Philadelphia
are groups like the Young Bag Chasers.

Speaker 2 (09:50):
Big Natty Gang, and groups like Zoo Gang.

Speaker 1 (09:56):
Now, to make it more understandable for people that don't
understand and this grouping or this culture, Zugang is one
of the biggest gangs in North Philadelphia and essentially think
of them as the Gambino crime family. Okay, they covered
North Philadelphia. The Gambino crime Family, though around certain neighborhoods

(10:17):
have captains that run them. These other smaller gangs are
essentially captains and they do the bidding for the bigger
ever arcing crime families.

Speaker 2 (10:29):
Zoogang is one of the biggest gangs in.

Speaker 1 (10:32):
The city and they are cool with several other sets,
and we're going to talk about those today.

Speaker 2 (10:39):
Mister Savage RACKEM.

Speaker 1 (10:40):
Savage first got into crime in twoenty seventeen. He would
be arrested by Philadelphia police for fleeing and eluding and
he would get probation. Several months later. Towards the end
of twenty seventeen, Missus Savage was hit with possession with
intent to deliver narcotics. He also received no jail time

(11:02):
and was placed on probation. Now in Philadelphia, mister Savage
was running with Zoogang and Zugang basically operate out of
Strawberry Mansion and other parts of Philadelphia. Now specifically, mister
Savage had a faction, a group called Omerti Gang, and

(11:23):
we're going to talk first about one indictment that involves
various members.

Speaker 2 (11:27):
And associates of Omerta Gang.

Speaker 1 (11:29):
America Gang operates out of Strawberry Mansion, specifically, twenty fifth
to thirtieth Street between Lehigh Avenue.

Speaker 2 (11:38):
And Alleghany Avenue.

Speaker 1 (11:40):
Now again they're part of a bigger set known as Zoogang,
which operate around twenty fifth and Master as well as
Thompson as well as have various factions around North Philadelphia. Now,
as we know, Omerica is taken from the Southern Italy
Code of Silence that all mob groups operate under, which
essentially covers the code of Silence. Now, Zoo Gang also

(12:05):
had merchandise where Omerica Gang had clothing that said.

Speaker 2 (12:09):
Omerica on it.

Speaker 1 (12:10):
They also used this sign to signal the oh Omerta.
Now I want to talk about the first indictment that
involves mister Savage. Now I call him the Black John
Gotti because by the end of this video you'll see
really that mister Savage operated like a mob boss. He
had earners, he had shooters, They were equal opportunity criminals.

(12:35):
Now the first indictment, Now, both of these indictments encapsulate
about a five to six year period from about twenty
eighteen all the way till twenty twenty four ish, and mister.

Speaker 2 (12:48):
Savage ate it and embedded you.

Speaker 1 (12:51):
Can see a clear, clear and concise portrait that mister
Savage was thought of as a leader due to his
connections to being a prominent member of Zoogang and thus
the leader of Omerta. The first indictment would drop in
July of twenty twenty four, and I did talk about

(13:13):
this indictment in depth here, involving a person called kill Bill.
I discussed that indictment in depth, but I also want
to discuss missus Savage's role in this indictment.

Speaker 2 (13:25):
Now, this indictment.

Speaker 1 (13:27):
Mostly encapsulates violent crime at the federal level, and this
would discuss the shooter part that mister Savage essentially offered
support to and instructed to. Now, one of the things
we find out right away about mister Savage in this
indictment is that he is directly involved with transferring illegal

(13:49):
guns used in the commission of violent crimes. The two
of the names also in this indictment are two very
prominent figures, one of which on the left is a
man called Jahlil Williams aka twenty fifth Street Bill and
kill Bill. Now, mister Williams is a rapper and can
be seen in various music videos discussing his exploits. On

(14:13):
the right, another person named in this indictment, a man
called Hanief Roberson aka Black Naf, that these two were
directly involved in murder in aid of racketeering. Now I
will get to that in a second Also included in
this indictment was various PUA benefit fraud, including mister Savage

(14:36):
making approximately forty thousand dollars in phony unemployment claims claiming
he had a job when he didn't. Now, the most
serious behavior of mister Savage that we found in this indictment,
in this first indictment, reflects his willingness to aid in
a bet and oversee violent crime. And one thing that

(14:58):
we can find that made him, I'm very smart, is
he didn't actually participate in the violent crime. He operated
as the man on the top instructing and aiding the
commissions of these violent crimes. So he's smart enough not
to get his hands dirty, right. He doesn't go out
and actually pull it. He instructs people to pull it

(15:20):
and then they do it. I want to talk about
some of the truly vicious things these individuals did, including
mister Williams and mister Roberson, though before that, I want
to also make it clear that mister Savage completely separated
his earners and his shooters.

Speaker 2 (15:41):
Now.

Speaker 1 (15:41):
In one text message exchanged on January TEWOD, twenty twenty,
Rakim Savage in a group chat, expressed dismay over OMERITAM
members more concerned with quote making money and not on
revenge and avenging.

Speaker 2 (16:00):
Or wounded members.

Speaker 1 (16:03):
So basically he's saying to his people that you know
are involved in violent crime, Yo, we need to go
out and start avenging people.

Speaker 2 (16:10):
We need to stop worrying about making money.

Speaker 1 (16:12):
These guys were starting to do counterfeiting, pu wavefraud, and
he said, Yo, we need to get out and do
what we got to do for our people. That's where
these two would come in now in this indictment, that
where we see violent crime start to pop up. That's
in late twenty twenty one, OMERTIM members Jalil Williams and

(16:32):
Hanief Roberson are allegedly involved in two hits, one of
which they do themselves, which I'll talk about. The other
one involves the shooting of a woman called Chandra Jones. Now,
Miss Jones was killed in a case of mistaken identity

(16:52):
in late twenty twenty one. He was shot by four
members of a group called BNNG aka Big Natty Gang. Now,
from what we found in the indictment, mister Williams allegedly
set this up and ordered these guys who are part
of a different gang in Strawberry Mansion to do some
dirty work.

Speaker 2 (17:14):
Now, at one point, mister Savage.

Speaker 1 (17:17):
Displayed his issues with using these people to help them out.
At one point on April fourth, twenty twenty second, joh
Lil Williams exchanged messages on Instagram with defendant Rakim Savage.
Williams would mention on Instagram and named himself as being
involved in the Chandra Jones murder as well as a

(17:40):
murder of a person called Smir Jefferson. Defended Savage stated,
quote the juveniles that mister Williams hired to kill CJ
Are now involved in further America activities and been quote difficult.
Jelle Williams responds stating quote he would get the drop
on them, meaning mister Williams would instruct where they could

(18:03):
find members of the Big Dat Naty Gang and hopefully
get rid of them. So they were becoming problematic and
mister Savage and mister Williams discussed this in text messages. Now,
another murder that mister Williams and mister Roberson participated in
collectively and did was the murder of fourteen year old

(18:25):
Samir Jefferson. And Samir Jefferson was shot eighteen times days
after Seandra Jones in the area of Feltonville in Philadelphia.
Now you might be thinking eighteen times, why so much?
According to what we know, he was shot that many
times to send a message. Now, I do want to
make it clear, mister Jefferson was painted as a youth,

(18:48):
which he was.

Speaker 2 (18:50):
That said, it had been discussed that mister.

Speaker 1 (18:52):
Jefferson knowingly and willingly spoke publicly about the death of
a friend of Jolie will Williams, and Johalil Williams took
it as he needed to go because of it. No
person deserves to be shot and killed eighteen times. These
people were incredibly violent. Now, after this run of murders,

(19:14):
including the hit on some mere Jefferson, mister Roberson, and
mister Williams go underground if you will. They go on
the run because they are wanted in connection with this.
From what we know, mister Savage willingly aided and abetted
mister Williams and hid him in a safe house on
North Bancross Street in Philadelphia. They then went on the

(19:36):
run due to the fact that people were closing in
in the Philadelphia Police Department as well as the FEDS
knew exactly where this safe house was. Eventually down the road,
mister Roberson would be arrested in Georgia as well as
mister Williams seen here arrested also in Georgia. Now, it

(19:56):
didn't stop there, involving the aiding and a betting that
mister Savage was doing while these guys were in jail.
Mister Savage also willingly provided them with contraband as well
as money behind the wall in aiding them in staying
up to date with what was going on here. Tellil

(20:16):
Williams can be seen with multiple contraband cell phones in
his prison cell in Philadelphia.

Speaker 2 (20:23):
Now, at one point scene here.

Speaker 1 (20:25):
I mentioned as I talked about they talk willingly about
the fact that Williams was involved in these hits and
people need to fix what's going on out on the streets.

Speaker 2 (20:36):
Also, at one.

Speaker 1 (20:37):
Point you can see the innate ability of mister Savage
to make it clear he is above mister Williams stating
in a text message quote in terms of hiring the
big natty gang kids to do a hit. He would say, quote,
you made a mistake. Wish you listen more Again, mister
Savage up top instructing people, teaching people, aiding in a

(21:02):
betting people. It's clear he was at the top of
a totem pole. He was the man at the top
of the volcano, as they say. This indictment was quite
problematic because again we also look at the fact that
we'll get into another part of the indictment where we
find out where mister Savage is making all the money

(21:22):
which allow him to do things like this, which is
posted on his public Instagram, as well as things like this,
where is the money coming from? We also found betting
receipts a ten thousand dollars two team parlay placed on
July second, twenty twenty three, at a betting terminal at

(21:42):
Rivers Casino in Philadelphia. Here mister Savage, which he put
on his Instagram, this parlay ten thousand dollars to win
approximately seventeen thousand dollars. I will point out this parlay
did hit. Where is this money coming from? Well, I'm
about the time.

Speaker 2 (22:00):
I'll tell you.

Speaker 1 (22:00):
Another indictment would drop in late twenty twenty four. This
was down the road superseded. And this right here is
one of the most fascinating indictments I've ever read. And
what we find is there are so many parallels between
these individuals and these individuals portrayed in Goodfellas.

Speaker 2 (22:24):
We see over the years involving mobsters.

Speaker 1 (22:27):
That the most popular successful mobsters of all time, men
that became bosses, started in hijacking.

Speaker 2 (22:37):
And you wouldn't believe it's still going on today, and
you are not gonna believe some of the things mister
Savage and his co conspiris.

Speaker 1 (22:45):
Were doing in this indictment, and this indictment obviously states
mister Savage at the top. Also involved is a man
called Ronald Byrd and a person called Douglas mathis now
the group that was doing all the hijacking. They were
involved in the Hobzac robberies, the interstate commerce. That kind
of thing was a group called Dirty Block. Now this

(23:08):
is a group, a small group that operates in the
area of thirteenth in Cambria thirteen, Somerset thirteen and William
basically between Glenwood Avenue and Lehigh Avenue in North Philadelphia.
This is a separate faction of a zoo gang. They're
all very closed these guys. Now, some of the people

(23:30):
in Dirty Block at one point were part of a
group called GND that operated at Gratz and Dolphin Streets
in North Philadelphia, again bordering Twentieth Street Zoogang territory. So
all these guys kind of worked in unison. Several members
of this conspiracy said here out of the Eastern District

(23:52):
of New York Public Information. Some of those people include
Achem Hawk Palmer, as well as a person called Sakeem Dixon. Now,
mister Palmer, who lived on William Street in North Philadelphia
had two brothers also involved in this conspiracy. Let's get

(24:16):
into this indictment because it is absolutely fascinating. Now, what
it essentially involves is truck hijacking. What these individuals would
do is they would sit on trucks, research trucks at
truck stops, wait for the driver to leave or go
to sleep, and they would steal what was in the truckloads.

(24:39):
At one point, only one of these situations did a
driver intervene, and they took the driver essentially hostage, putting
him under the truck, and did what they had to do.
But for most of these robberies they were they didn't
have to use any weapons. They just took what they
had and they would use a Dodgram truck. At one
point they used a two thousand and eight high no

(25:02):
box truck that they acquired. This was really well thought out.
Now I'm going to go into several thefts that these
individuals do. They start in January of twenty twenty three. Now,
the first robbery they do is that of thirty six
seventy five inch LG televisions they steal from a lot

(25:25):
in Philadelphia. One of the defendants in this case, after
the robbery, Douglas Mathis, stated in a text message to
other codefendants quote who needs some big ass TVs? The
Several weeks later, the group would steal forty nine cases
of hypnotic liquor from a load in Philadelphia. They would

(25:47):
then attempt to sell it on the black market. Now,
the conspiracy would continue several days later, where the group
would steal approximately ten thousand pounds of frozen turkey wings.
Several days later, they would steal eleven palettes of frozen
beef from a lot in South Philadelphia. Son't understand this

(26:12):
is not uh, you know a couple of bags of stuff.
These are palettes, These are you know, dozens of cases
of liquor, and they were stealing everything. It was liquor, beef, food,
TVs appliances, commercial refrigerators. Now RAKEM. Savage was directly involved

(26:36):
in these. At one point, two code defendants would trade
text messages with pictures of the palettes. At one point,
Savage and his code defendants would steal sixty cases of
Jose Cuervo tequila.

Speaker 2 (26:50):
RAKEM.

Speaker 1 (26:50):
Savage would then text his location where the tequila was
to other CODE defendants. Not At one point in the
whole conspiracy, one defendant, a person called Hanieve Palmer, would
text the group's stating quote from TVs, appliances, liquor, and.

Speaker 2 (27:10):
Food, we split it all and that would state a conspiracy.

Speaker 1 (27:16):
Whatever they stole, it was all divvied out to everybody.
At one point, the crew would then steal approximy twelve
pallets of frozen snow crab legs. Then they would subsequently
steal one and fifty boxes of frozen crab. One of

(27:38):
the people in this case that was involved in the
stealing of crab legs, Aquin Palmer, would state in a
text message photos of the stolen crab legs in the
back of a truck body. So again setting this all up,
when the Feds come to you, understand, they already have

(27:58):
the goods, the cases already been made, and everything is
looked at. The difference between these individuals is no different
than the ones of yesteryear, involving guys like John Gotti
and Joe Mesino. The only difference is today telephones have
ruined crime, and this is how they got caught boasting.

(28:21):
You gotta move your stolen merchandise. We gotta let you
know where it is. And the crazy thing is all
of this is in the indictment. I want to point out.
This is the indictment that is the frozen crab legs
that they sent in photos. Now, in the conspiracy, they
would also discuss and text messages what happened during the thefts.

(28:44):
For instance, at one point Rakim Savage state bro I
was on the truck hawking them right there, a nickname
Hawk defendant Akim Palmer.

Speaker 2 (28:55):
He would then say, and they would argue that.

Speaker 1 (28:57):
The group would argue about prices, putting pros, and how
to sell the crab legs.

Speaker 2 (29:02):
It was all very simple. It was all very.

Speaker 1 (29:04):
Simple for the federal government to figure this out. And
this is how RACKEM. Savage and all of these defendants
were able to make a whole lot of money.

Speaker 2 (29:17):
And I want to make this clear.

Speaker 1 (29:18):
I have seen direct Instagram and I'm not going to
post it here of these individuals betting tens of thousands
of dollars in dice games, in casino betting slips. It's
all here. This is all public information. Now again, all
of the people in this indictment are innocent until proven guilty.

(29:39):
That said, this is a damning case. Throw in the
fact that missus Savage is also named in another case
which we talked about above, aiding at a betting, and
those are violent crimes murder and aid of racketeering. Let's
get to the most high level crime these individuals would do,
and this would make.

Speaker 2 (29:59):
National news news.

Speaker 1 (30:01):
According to what we know, the biggest score that this
group made would occur in April twenty twenty three, when Savage,
as well as various others in this conspiracy, would knock
off a Treasury truck of two hundred and thirty four thousand,
four hundred and seventy four dollars and eighty cents worth
of dimes.

Speaker 2 (30:23):
Yes, you heard that correct.

Speaker 1 (30:25):
These individuals got the drop on a Treasury truck that
was left unattended in a parking lot in Philadelphia bound
for Florida, and it contained millions of dimes. They'd pull
a truck up and just start taking approximate two hundred
and thirty four thousand.

Speaker 2 (30:43):
Dollars worth of dimes. That's over a million dimes. That's
a lot of dimes.

Speaker 1 (30:48):
That said, this was proven by defendant Douglas Mathis sending
this photo to his co defendants where one of the
co conspiracy is seen laying on a mountain of dimes
in the back of a truck bed. Now, Rakim Savage

(31:10):
would then follow that up sending a picture of a
national news story covering the dime thefts, where he can
state in a text message quote, look, we made it.

Speaker 2 (31:25):
Now this gets even more wild.

Speaker 1 (31:28):
Obviously you have two hundred and thirty four thousand dollars
in change of dimes. He'd offload those dimes. And this
is where the ignorance comes with these individuals. They then
instruct persons named to the indictment. They're not identified in
the indictment, but they're named, and the federal government know

(31:50):
who they were. Those individuals are instructed to go up
and down the mid Atlantic seaboard, including Maryland, and exchange.

Speaker 2 (31:57):
Balk dimes in coinstar machines.

Speaker 1 (32:01):
At one point as well, one of the individuals in
this case is seen walking into a bank, a credit
union in Philadelphia with tubs of dimes. He then puts
them into his bank account, and almost right after withdraws

(32:22):
all the money. So he'd put let's say, fifteen hundred
dollars into his bank account of dimes. He would then
exchange and take fifteen hundred dollars in cash out.

Speaker 2 (32:34):
I mean, all of this is on the indictment.

Speaker 1 (32:41):
This is very simple, and these thefts would continue well
into late twenty twenty three, and all of this constitutes
very simple things to understand Hobbs Act robberies.

Speaker 2 (32:56):
What is a Hobbs Act robbery? What is it to
find that? Now?

Speaker 1 (33:00):
The Hobzack defines robbery as the unlawful taking of property
from another person by force, violence, intimidation, or fear. Now,
elements of a Hobzack rowfrey include the taking up property
from another person against the victim's will by force, violent,
or fear. And again remember the maximum sentence for one

(33:23):
hobzack robbery is twenty years in prison. Now, also in
this indictment, charges include theft from interstate shipments, conspiracy, robbery
which interferes with interstate commerce, theft of government money, possession
of items from interstate shipment thefts, as well as aiding
in a betting. Now, at one point the evidence was

(33:45):
strengthened due to the fact that mister Savage had elements
of his robberies in his home, including various cases of liquor.
Notice again, this is a direct screenship from the indictment
which shows the frozen crab and again text message extains

(34:06):
about it. Also, when you have a bunch of dimes
and you just go into credit unions to take those
dimes and put them in your bank account, plus photos
like this, Obviously this is not a normal occurrence. Most
people don't have the ability to take a photo of
themselves laying in a truck bed of dimes, especially when

(34:30):
there had just been a huge dime seizure and robbery
that was national news. All the individuals in this case
are innocent in both cases, innocent until proven guilty, and
they all sit at the Federal Detention Center in Philadelphia,
awaiting either a plea or trial. My guess is none

(34:54):
of these individuals will go to trial. And this is
how again the federal government succeed in costing so many people.
The evidence against people is so strong, they're gonna go
to people like rockem.

Speaker 2 (35:09):
Savage and they're gonna say, look, man, we have you here.

Speaker 1 (35:13):
If you go and try to take us to court,
if you try to fight this, there ain't no numbers
coming to you. It's a word and it's real simple
l ife. So here's what we'll do. Plead, We'll give
you forty years, thirty years, and you'll get out. At
some point you'll be an old man, but you get

(35:34):
out now. Some of the people in this indictment and
in the other indictment, people like this. It's likely that
mister Williams and mister Roberson never see the light of
day again. They will die in federal prison due to
the fact that they are directly involved with the murder
of a fourteen year old child. Throw in the fact
that the other people mentioned from separate cases, like the

(35:56):
Big Natty gang members, they also will never see the
light of day again due to the fact that they
killed a woman in cold blood. That said, most of
the people in the second indictment we talked about are
the one that involved the theft of interstate commerce. A
lot of them will not get death sentences or life
in prison. They're not gonna get death SeNSS, but I

(36:17):
mean life in prison in terms of they will die
in prison. Several of the people though, in this indictment
are career criminals, including hak Aka Akim Palmer, and his
sentence in guidelines essentially are two hundred months or more.

Speaker 2 (36:34):
So again, it's a long time.

Speaker 1 (36:38):
A lot of these guys will be old men until
they get out of federal prison. The one thing we
can see though with people like this is is a
couple years of baal and worth twenty or thirty years
in the Feds maybe more to them.

Speaker 2 (36:54):
Maybe it is.

Speaker 1 (36:56):
That's said, there is a major difference between the gangsters
yesteryear and today. Most of the things they're doing are
very similar murder, racketeering, robberies, hijacking. The major difference though,
is the thing in the hands of this person a telephone.

(37:16):
Everything done on a telephone can be tracked, and all
of it is used as evidence. Against you. Throw in
the fact that these people made it a little bit
more easy due to the fact that most of the
things they were doing are discussed in rap songs that
the government use against them. Remember John Gotti, Joe Messino,

(37:37):
and Jimmy Burke all started truck hijacking just like all
these people did. In fact, one of the largest heists
in the history of America was done by hijackers and
it was immortalized in one of the greatest films of
all time, Goodfellas. There's very little difference between mister Savage

(37:58):
and mister Gotti. The major difference is culturally at a telephone.
In the end, that will be the downfall, and we
learned that in all of these stories.

Speaker 2 (38:11):
I hope you enjoyed this video.

Speaker 1 (38:12):
A little bit different show today, but as you can see,
the passion I have for this topic is palpable. I
love talking about these type of indictments, very interesting people,
very interesting criminals. We're not glorifying these people. We don't
glorify any of the people on this channel. We are
equal opportunity crime reporters. It doesn't matter if you're black, white, whatever.

(38:35):
We talk about organized crime in this channel and on
this channel and this is absolutely the new age mafia
here in America.

Speaker 2 (38:42):
I hope you enjoyed this video.

Speaker 1 (38:44):
I'll see you next week here on the sit Down
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