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February 24, 2025 72 mins

Will Diamondback be a diamond in the rough for toxic fans? What is the new game mode coming out this month? What are Cozy and Alex's final rankings on Redwing? Join Cozy Snap and Alexander Coccia as they chat about this and more on this episode of The Snap Chat and every week as they discuss all things Marvel Snap.

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Cozy Snap (00:00):
What's going on guys?
Welcome back to another episodeof the Snapchat.
Diamondback is coming out andToxic fans rejoice.
She looks freaking great,probably the best card this
month, but we also got a brandnew game mode launching Tuesday.
We're going to break the wholething down, what you need to
know, the FAQs.
And then lastly, we're going tobe talking about Marvel Snap in
China.
They've got their own game withtournaments and a lot more like

(00:22):
exclusive variants and Alex andI.
We're going to give our opinionon that.
We're going to talk about thatall today on this episode of the
Snapchat.
And as always, I am joined byMr.
Alex Kocha and my friend, we'vegot a lot of new coming to
Marvel snap.
We've got a new game mode.
We had new series dropannounced, which we're going to
talk on your side.
We've got ourselves new OTAsitting in the 27th of February.
So this Thursday we got March4th patch, another OTA on the

(00:45):
13th.
And so a lot of newness coming.
To the game.
How do you feel man about thenew game mode coming out?
We're gonna go and jump into theweeds of it man But you are you
pumped for that does it get youexcited for snap this week?

Alexander Coccia (00:56):
I'm excited for snap.
I don't, I'm always excited forsnap.
And that's the one thing thatkeeps me consistently making
content is that at its absolutecore, I still enjoy playing this
video game.
And I'm going to continueplaying this video game.
And I love talking about thisvideo game with cozy snap, but I
think that like, I am excited.
And when you talk about the OTAsand stuff like that, there is a
definite.
Pulse of content and a pulse ofchange.

(01:17):
And I think that's somethingthat's snapped us very well that
perhaps like, you know, we'regoing to have some constructive
criticisms of stuff and here andthere, but ultimately like we
have to be honest, like thatpulse of snaps, like a kind of
content.
It's actually pretty valuable.
Even as content creatorsourselves, it gives us
opportunities to get excitedwith the game, share things with
the game.

(01:37):
You know, we've got new cardscoming out every single week.
We have new game balloons once amonth, which drops whatever
happens to me.
There's always somethinghappening.
So I do think that Marvel snapdoes do a good job of trying to
keep us interested.

Cozy Snap (01:47):
Yeah.
So I figured out that pulse moreand more as I was doing arrival
stuff.
Right.
And so rivals and a lot of liveservice games have seasons,
right?
They have season.
They have a bunch of contentcome out, hearthstone, bunch of
content, and then it's like along wait period.
And it did make me especiallyconsecration so much easier to
consecrate when you havesomething every week, right?
You know that there is a niceweekly pulse for snap and on

(02:09):
game mode, weeks months Iespecially new ones with new
rules I get especially excitedbecause of creativity and
bringing new stuff to the gameon that front with new cards you
get creativity You know, withtheorycrafting new game modes
kind of opens up the door for alot.
So that, that is definitelyexciting in my opinion.
Also guys, saw your comments.
A lot of people said giveCaptain America a chance.

(02:30):
They thought it was really good.
The critics were wrong.
And I will be doing so.
I have not seen it yet.
This is probably the longestI've gone without seeing it.
Release of it.
But I will and anyway, man, whatdo we talk?
We know what we're talking aboutover here, buddy.
What are we talking about onyour side of the Snapchat?

Alexander Coccia (02:42):
Cozy on my side of the Snapchat, we're
going to talk about Red Wing,the card leaving the spotlight
cashless.
If you're trying to figure outwhether or not you should be
spending your resources on RedWing, we'll be talking about
that.
We'll also be talking aboutseries drops and whether or not
it was enough.
Series drops have been announcedand Cozy and I are going to
break them down and go throughthe cards and let you know what
we think.
And then finally, as always, ourSnapchat mailbag.

Cozy Snap (03:02):
Well, let's get right to it.
Let's talk about the new cardcoming out guys.
Happy Monday.
Diamondback is coming to snap.
And when we went through thecards in the month, I think this
was my highest ranked card.
Alex light.
You liked her a good amount.
You were at, were you at threeand a half?
I think is what it was.
I said three and a half.

Alexander Coccia (03:20):
Yeah, because I was very unsure if I wanted to
go three, but I saw the upperpotential towards four and you
did come in at four.
I do think that I can see thisbeing a four star card for sure.
I think it's probably the bestof the bunch.

Cozy Snap (03:31):
Yeah, and it's again, it's not hard to stand out this
month and I think she does.
Ongoing enemy cards hereafflicted with negative power
have an additional negative two.
So in theory, a three 11obviously needs some help from
other cards, but obviously avery good.
Stat line.
There's let's start with starratings again.
Do you, do you give her, soyou're going to just, are you

(03:53):
going to give her a three and ahalf again, you give her a four,
what do you, what do you have?

Alexander Coccia (03:56):
I feel like I'm going to stick around like
the three and a half to fourstar range, which I mean, I'm,
I'm kind of cheating, right?
I'm not, I'm not like kind ofpicking one hard.
But, like, the problem I seewith her is obviously she's very
niche, she doesn't have, like, awide application, but she's
probably going to be very goodin the decks that she's very
good in, if that makes sense.
I think that she has a veryclear spot.
It's exactly what we saw with,like, Ares.
We're like, well, like, youknow, Ares has one deck, maybe

(04:18):
two.
And we're like, oh, does thatmake it not, does it take a star
off for the style?
It's like, well, no, Aresactually slaps, right?
And with Diamondback, I expecther to slap in the Toxic style
decks, so I'm willing to go tofour stars here.

Cozy Snap (04:31):
I think that she is going to cause affliction to get
a nerf.
That's how, like, I'm not, like,I think usually that's related
with five star cards, but Ithink that she is going to bring
it over the top that much more.
We just got to bump up tosomething like Scorpion, which
we'll lean into here in amoment.
That, I think she's going to begood.
Yeah, she's niche, but the deckis already good.

(04:52):
Not the high Evo onenecessarily, I guess, which is
where we can start, but more ofthe other affliction synergies.
You were saying you were playingsome high Evo lately.
Abomination, does this, youknow, you got the Wasp in there,
Cyclops, the Thing, does thisbring this Abomination build a
little bit more to theforefront?
Is High Evo still miles off?

(05:12):
What do you think?

Alexander Coccia (05:13):
So it's funny, so Cozy's referencing a
conversation we spoke beforehitting, like while we were
getting ready to startrecording, we were talking about
how like, well what have youbeen playing?
I'm like, I've Evo actually, andduring the last Twitch Drops, I
played a bunch of High Evo, andprimarily because I wanted to
just, I just needed to know.
I needed to know, okay.
I wasn't going to play rightwing.
I wanted to play high Evo.
And I found that Luna snow'sawesome.

(05:34):
I actually, I think I'm comingaround to Luna snow.
Honestly, she's a three, six.
I mean, come on, let's behonest.
And my deck was runningabomination and man, the
opportunity to get abominationout for free is actually
relatively impactful andrelatively easy to pull off.
And with the one thing aboutdiamondback is that obviously
she won't perpetuate theabomination effect, right?
Because the.

(05:55):
The negatively afflicted cardsthey just get more negatively
afflicted by Diamondback.
Whereas Abomination just wantsthem to get hit at all.
Like they just want Abominationjust wants minus one and
Diamondback just makes that diveeven further.
So while she's not necessarilyan activator for Abomination,
she definitely allows you tolike push that Cyclops lane even

(06:15):
further.
Like it gives you that extra,like just powerful push.
I wonder though, I wonder.
If she would ever get played onturn six, it's an opportunity
obviously as an ongoing, butthere's a lot of contention in
the, those types of Evo decks,the fact that it's not actually
the greatest, the greatest deckout there, the cards that are in
there, like you're not going tocut Cyclops for diamond back.
You know what I mean?

Cozy Snap (06:36):
Yeah, so I feel like this conversation could be with
high evo and it could also justbe with the car She's the decks
She's gonna synergize with theway I see diamond back is a is a
lane winner And I think that'ssuper important at a three cost
for this style of deck becauseAjax We already have other cards
that can win their lane.
And I think what this deck needsthe most is like another

(06:57):
Vertical lane winner where ithas not does you know what has
not does well And I feel like atthree, even though you can
preset her up, you know, it isobviously a tail, you know, sign
what you're doing, but it almostdoesn't matter because you've
got that.
And then in the high evo deck,for example, Abomination and
maybe Cyclops, whatever, cankind of hold the other lane
down.
I guess obviously Diamondbackwould be with Cyclops in that

(07:18):
example.
But I I feel like they're a lanewinner which previously you were
kind of hoping on Cyclops to bethat what she you know He
definitely can Dismantle a lane,but he does need a little bit
more help a little bit moreboosting And then now you can
kind of focus on abomination andtheir lowered power clearly luke
cage all that good stuff isinvolved But dude, I feel like
not only do do I just like lovethis buff and obviously we know

(07:41):
that this was done Clearly aheadfor Diamondback, but Scorpion,
bro, Scorpion getting boosted upjust a little bit right in time
up to a 2 3, you know, this isDiamondback's best friend
because it's on curve, you wantto play him on 2 anyway, and
then you've got, you know, a tonof cards that are benefiting
Ajax, Abomination, Diamondback,and get things going.

(08:03):
I think Scorpion's going tofeast.

Alexander Coccia (08:05):
It will, and it's obviously a curve play as
well, but what I want to mentionis that, I don't think that, I
saw some commentary thatScorpion's buff was because
Diamondback wasn't good, and Iactually don't agree with that,
I think Diamondback is good, andI think that the Scorpion buff,
it's a buff that's designed tobe like, hey guys, Surtur's kind
of out of control, Surtur'svery, very good right now,
despite the nerf it's alreadyreceived, and I think that like,

(08:27):
even saw in the OT patch notes,where they said, essentially
said like, hey like, Scorpionmesses up Surtr decks.
It messes up their hand prior totheir opportunity to play.
The earliest you can play a 4drop is on turn 3 with Zabu.
Scorpion deals with that.
And then you can follow up theScorpion with a Cassandra Nova.
And that deck is effectivelynullified with its turn 6 line
of score, right?

(08:47):
So, I think that this buff wasironically kind of like a, Hey,
we don't necessarily want tokeep nerfing Surtur, here's a
tool to deal with it.
Oh, and also Diamondback'scoming up for some additional
synergy as well.
And it does.
Scorpion's fantastic withDiamondback.
And if you think about Scorpionand Cassandra Nova, that gives
Diamondback a ton of opportunityto get played down on turn 6 and

(09:11):
take your shot at winning a lanewith a 3 drop while also playing
something else in anotherlocation.

Cozy Snap (09:16):
Yeah, curving in or being played late is why I think
she's going to be good.
And then in addition to allthis, just playing Diamondback
and US Agent together, that'sanother just two card combo that
most likely can hold a wholelane down.
Like they, they have enoughfirepower between that.
So think about that, man.
And we've seen this in the past.
If you have a deck that onlyneeds two cards specifically to

(09:38):
kind of hold the lane down andthen everything else you have
going on, you can focus inanother lane.
That's powerful.
That's a very good card.
And that's why i'm leaning intothis, you know Laufey's coming
out, this week too and laufeydoes you know, afflict negative
power as well There's a lot ofmini cards that you can combine
together lasher came out lastexclusive game mode.
Very good card with diamond backSo I see the upper end of the

(10:00):
turns being useful for ajax thathas matt whatever, you know It
might be spider woman orwhatever, you know But that
having its own lane mainly ajaxand then the other one just
being diamondbacks.
I think it's gonna feast dude

Alexander Coccia (10:14):
I was thinking about some other like, like
obviously combo centric cards,and I want to do a little bit of
coping here, okay?
What about this type of line,right?
You have the Silver Sable line,which obviously, if you're going
all in on the talks, you got theSilver Sable and the Scorpion
Cassandra Nova.
But you can also do somethinglike Silver Sable into White
Widow into Red Guardian.
And you could hit, you could hitthe Widow's Kiss.

(10:34):
With the Red Guardian, and nownot only is it negative negative
three, but it's also beenimpacted by the fact that it can
no longer be destroyed, right?
It's lost its text, and becauseit's been debuffed, Diamondback
is going to apply its effect toit, while also it's still taking
up a spot in that location,which gives them less
opportunity to outpower youthere.

(10:55):
So I was thinking about that, Iwas like, you know what, you're
going to Red Guardian.
Run red guardian anyway, becauseI think it's a really good catch
all tech piece right nowspecifically against even like a
Luke cage.
If you want to use it there, buton curve, you can use it to hit
the white widows, widows kiss,which diamondback would love.

Cozy Snap (11:10):
Yeah.
And I think what's compared toother archetypes, what's good
about affliction decks is whenthey do get out of control.
We, you know, we've talked aboutit.
Luke cage is obviously such ahuge, just like shut down to
where, you know, I could.
Probably guesstimate that we'regoing to get a big spike in
these kind of decks again Andthen luke cage kind of enters
the meta a bit does his thingAnd like it's a surefire way to

(11:32):
shut down Everything this deckis trying to want to do right
because the luke cage is goingto get obviously kill diamond
back in her entirety But Iagree.
I like the idea of of addingmore cards and being able to you
know essentially make diamondsback Value go up that much more
There's there's cool cheekystuff you can do.
I think the basic stuff's gonnado good But hey, dude, you can

(11:52):
mystique her you can moonstoneher I don't think you need that
much support there at that onelane.
You have locations going for youThere's like five six seven
locations that have negativepower stuff involved Diamondback
immediately just wants to feastfrom that and then obviously as
we've stated the simple hazmat,you know combo with diamondback
is gonna be a surefire thingThere, even though it's a basic

(12:13):
inflection card, I feel likeshe's going to set off a trend
and mark my words, it may not bethis next OTA, but the next one.
Is when we see a change toaffliction decks.

Alexander Coccia (12:24):
So affliction has been super good for like a
while.
And I think that like the Ajaxstyle decks have been constantly
in like that top five range.
They've occasionally been nearthe top of the win rate,
according to untapped, butthey've been very consistently
in the mix of those like top 10style decks.
Like you can definitely get toinfinite and climb with Ajax
decks.
There's no question about it.

(12:45):
One of the major challengeswe're going to see, and we've
talked about this in the past,is that this is going to be a
card that's going to feel awfulthe first week.
Because of Luke Cage.
Because it's a catch all defenseagainst it, and also Luke Cage
is often used in Afflictiondecks themselves.
Like, the Ajax decks, and I knowI've mentioned this before, but
Ajax decks used to not run LukeCage because they wanted the

(13:07):
biggest Ajax possible and thennow they actually run Luke Cage
because Ajax number big enoughto win the lane.
You don't need to worry aboutthat.
You want to mitigate the effectof some of your other plays.
You can do things like man thingand US agent.
So the problem we have now froma design perspective is that you
have Luke Cage that is also anongoing card and so it comes

(13:29):
down on turn six.
And it just nullifies the entireeffect.
Just like you can useDiamondback on turn six, they
can use Blue Cage on turn six.

Cozy Snap (13:38):
And I want to say this, people may have forgotten,
Ajax was highly, highly hated,even by us on the in review
segment.
Yeah.
Post release and like across theboard Ajax was not and it's the
first week effect And no matterhow much we've prepped ourself
like it's gonna be bad thisweek.
We always just see Recency biasand we're like see it didn't do

(13:59):
good and Ajax for weeks had thatweeks and people missed out on
and I'm telling you it's gonnabe the same here It's just too
easy to solve And also the statstracking the people that have
the stat thing on their computerand stuff.
It's people running luke It'slike the people that are in tune
with the meta and stuff So it'salso like falsified numbers too
a little bit.
So I agree.

(14:19):
I think that there is going tobe a slower, you know Increase
for her laufey's coming.
I mean, there's a lot benefitingthat and I think that that's
definitely going to tame her ButI think she will add to that
archetype and if you enjoy itYou know, you're going to feast
here and I'm hoping she doeshigh Evo enough to make it at
least like semi, semi better.

Alexander Coccia (14:38):
I guess it's a point to say that, like you had
just mentioned, like, we're kindof, we're kind of talking in
circles in a sense, because youjust mentioned that it's likely,
or you would predict that therewould be a nerf to the
affliction archetype within thenext couple of OTAs.
And yet we do have thisabsolutely overpowered catch all
tech card in Luke Cage thatcompletely nullifies the entire,

(15:00):
the entire archetype.
So it's kind of funny, right, tothink that like, yeah, Luke Cage
will destroy the entirearchetype, but also it's not
good enough to like, keep theentire archetype in check.
So I don't know, and I was eventhinking about like how in my
deck building I'm going to tryand mitigate Luke Cage.
I know Enchantress is makingsome decks right now because
Ongoing is pretty popular.
But the problem is, is that theAffliction decks run a lot of

(15:20):
Ongoings themselves.
And so you're, there's aposition of possible collateral
damage with your own cards.
So I'm thinking that there's achance that I might actually
want run rogue because I thinkthat rogue might have a better
time hitting the Luke cagesbecause at higher memoirs, I
think you're going to see Lukecages being placed into the
diamond back locations orwhatever in order to prevent the

(15:41):
easy enchantress style play.
And I feel like a rogue might bea better call there.
Another card I want to shut outquickly.
And I know that's a one that youlove and one that you were high
on is Malekith.
I think that Malekith is goingto be really good in these
Diamondback decks, not onlybecause it can pull Diamondback,
but it can pull Hazmat and otherkind of cards that will impact
the board in the way that youwant, because you can have the

(16:03):
Diamondback on the field ofplay, pull the Hazmat with the
Malekith, and because it's anongoing, you're still going to
feast.

Cozy Snap (16:09):
Yeah, first I want to say to Enchantress, I love the
way it's designed.
I mean, you would attackDiamondback every time if you
have Enchantress in the deck.
Because it would shut down theAjax to in a good amount of, you
know, because whatever's whatDiamondback is also trying to be
ongoing and maybe it's us agent.
You have a lot of bang for buckthere and Malekith, that's a
cheeky one.
I like that because yeah, it's away to save resources, get good
stats out there and then havewhatever your setup plan is.

(16:32):
After a while, when that deckdoes get traction, I think it'll
be more obvious, but in thefirst coming weeks, like if you
want to play this style and notjust get Luke Cajun out the
gate, you know, this isdefinitely it's definitely a
path you could take.
But yeah, man, I, I think it'llbe fun.
I think it's, it's going to beyou know, you've got the new
game mode coming.
So people are going to be doingdifferent decks in there.
And then in the main ladder,expect to see a lot of Luke
cage, a lot of diamond back andkind of everything in between

(16:53):
get the the tech cards ready.
It is a token week, by the way,the spotlights, I think, what is
it?
Nimrod and Phoenix force.
I feel like the 20th

Alexander Coccia (17:01):
and do not roll cashes.

Cozy Snap (17:03):
No, not at all.
My gosh so with sanctum comingout guys we've got a lot to
break down with the new gamemode We've got a whole little
faq to talk about what it iswhat to expect And it's you can
prep yourself up and then thepros and the cons of it.
Now first of all Here's the bigthing the game in general and

(17:24):
the rules of how it's going togo is you're going to earn
points each time each turn fromthe locations that you're
winning So every turn you'regoing to get points each
location is worth one point andthen We've said this that if
there's one with a sanctumbonus, you're going to get bonus
points from that.
And then every turn, the sanctumis going to be moving.
And so you have to kind of focuson what locations that you
should probably prioritizestarting on turn three, you can

(17:45):
snap it out.
Additional bonus points to thesanctum location.
First person to get 16 points isgoing to win.
And then there's going to be amaximum of 15 turns.
So definitely a much differentgame, but much faster spreading
your cards and less.
I mean, not less synergy, butreally the stats are going to
matter on this one, right?
Cheap, like what cards do youwant to play, Alex?
In my opinion, it's ones thatcan, you know, we'll talk about

(18:08):
these more in excess in asecond, but it's ones that are
going to not only be a highpower quickly, but don't cost a
lot.
So you could spread yourself outonce that can move and are
adaptable.
And once I just have synergywith location benefits, I think
are going to be the majorwinners.

Alexander Coccia (18:23):
Yeah, I mean, anything, I find this is going
to be pretty unique in the senseof like the moving location, I
think is really fascinating andI think it's going to make
people want to be a littlereactive.
However, there's some cards thatreally do benefit from that.
Like even something as simple asa Cosmo, right?
Like Cosmo knowing where they'remore likely to try and contest.
If you have initiative that'sreally helpful.
Think about how relevant SamWilson is going to be where you

(18:46):
can be putting him and movingthe shield around potentially to
contest locations.
I think that, like, cards thatare flexible will be cards that
are primarily very effective inthis game mode.

Cozy Snap (18:55):
Yes, and most importantly, there is a banned
card list.
And it's not one, it's not twolike the previous game modes we
had.
There's a lot.
There's a lot of banned cardsthis time around.
So I'll read them out just soyou guys kind of get The gist of
it.
So Annihilus, starting off thelist, and obviously they're
focused a lot on clog andlocations and like, because how
important some of that stuff isAnnihilus, Captain Marvel,

(19:17):
debris, Dracula, Galactus, GreenGoblin, Hobgoblin, Juggernaut,
Invisible Woman, Kang, which ishilarious, M'Baku, Magic,
Malekith, Martyr, Mysterio,Quake, Storm, Supergiant, and
Viper.
So a lot you have off the cuffthat have something to do with

(19:38):
like end of the game.
The other half is a bunch oflocation changers or location
stuff.
And then you also have ones thatare involved with clogging of
some effect, right?
Legion is not on this list,which is kind of crazy.
And there's a couple other onesthat you think would have
checked.
The box is there, but anythoughts on the band cards?

Alexander Coccia (19:55):
Yeah, I think they're going after a clog and
very specifically, I thinkthey're like some of these bands
are to like, save the playerbase, like, Hey dude, you ran
Dracula and it, it triggers atthe end of the game.
It's effectively useless thisentire time.
Right.
So like, yeah.
And even like super giants.
Stuff like that.
Cause supergiant would like,just remove an entire turn.

(20:16):
Right.
It was just kind of destroy anentire term and make initiative.
So powerful and invisible womanwould be completely useless till
the absolute end of the game.
It's like, so yeah, I think thatsome of them was like, we're
protecting, we're savingyourself over here with these
bands.
But one that didn't get bannedthat I'm kind of interested.
I want to see, again, we haven'tplayed the mode yet, so we
actually don't know if this willwork and stuff like that, but I
haven't thought of like tribunalmight be interesting.

(20:37):
Like.
Tribunal is able to very easilycontest everything all at once.
And I wonder if it's a prettygood catch all to like, playing
the game mode but not playingthe game mode.
Like, the most AFK version ofthe game mode possible is
Tribunal.

Cozy Snap (20:50):
I like Scream just because of that you know,
they're not gonna give someListen, you could clog the
opponent with their own cardsand make them like, have to
change what they're doing.
Then Scream's gonna be feasting,so you're gonna win that
location a lot.
I feel like that's gonna dowell.
Living Tribunal's interesting, Ididn't even think of that.
And like, building up to it abit differently.
Move cards in general is gonnabe huge.
Obviously because of that, Imean, Groot and Rocket is an

(21:11):
insane Rocket and Groot is goingto be a very good card, but the
whole Scream Deck just feelslike it's got a lot to just win.
And, I don't know, man, we'regoing to see, obviously, to me,
the most exciting part of newgame modes is always the,
especially ones with uniquerules, right?
So we saw this with HighVoltage.
It's like the first day.
People are just throwingeverything at the wall.
We have no idea about the stats.

(21:31):
It just makes it super fun.
That, that in particular, I'm,I'm pumped for.

Alexander Coccia (21:36):
Yeah.
It's exciting when like, no onehas it figured out.
Right.
But yeah, like Madam web, Ithink it's going to be good in
this particular mode, and I waseven thinking about like iron
Patriot and everything else.
It's not that big a deal, butlike iron Patriot might
encourage them to play off ofthe sanctum location because
it's like, Oh, do I.
Do I try to win the Sanctum ordo I play into this Patriot,
which is going to get a free orlike an inexpensive card because

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he's going to win the location,right?
I think that's kind of fast.
No,

Cozy Snap (21:59):
I think it well, and because you could just get an
insanely good card to lock onedown to like, you know, and I
think because there's so manyturns, you have so many ways to
be able to use that in the rightway.
You know, keep in mind with upto 15 turns guys There's a lot
of different strategy you couldpull off.
But we're gonna see a wholelittle new meta here I would say
stick with what you're good atand it's important though to do
so because of the way this isgonna work So you have scrolls

(22:21):
to play the game, right?
You you use a scroll to play.
It's kind of like a conquestticket And you, if you win, you
get your scroll back, okay,you're going to earn two scrolls
every eight hours as in you'regoing to have that regenerated.
And let's start there.
But theoretically, if you keepwinning, you get to keep on
playing and then you earn charmsto use in the reward shop and

(22:43):
we'll get to all of that in justa moment.
How do you feel about the scrollsystem?

Alexander Coccia (22:47):
Not a huge fan of it.
I hope that they're generous upfront even if for my own sake,
because like I'll be streamingat the time that it launches.
So it's like, if I run out ofscrolls, people are going to
want to see me play the new gamemode.
So I'm going to have to, youknow, feed the second inner
coffers.
Right.
And it's it's just a sad realityof it all.
But the other side to that isthat like, if the redemption is
very slow, like two, every two,eight hours, like, all right, if

(23:08):
you go to bed and you get abunch of them, that's probably
fine.
But, One thing that has kind ofresonated with me, especially
with this new mode was, Iremember during high voltage,
Glenn had mentioned somethingwhere like the, the second inter
prefers to have game modes withstakes, right?
They want to have stakes in itand high voltage lacked those
stakes and therefore as a mode,it might not necessarily be
something that like is preferredor liked or whatever.

(23:31):
I don't know what word you wantto use there, but for me, it's
like, I love the idea of analternate game mode being a
place where you can go in legit,just stressful.
Free have so much fun with thecards and the variance and like,
just let things go.
Boom.
And I kind of really liked thatwith the scroll system.
I feel like it reallyincentivized sweaty play because
the idea of like going likeinfinite with it, like infinite,

(23:53):
literally meaning like you cancontinue to play.
If you're good enough tocontinue to play, if you have a
100 percent win rate orwhatever.
Technically above 50 percentlike you, you'll just be winning
and you'll keep going.
Right.
But if you dip, then all of asudden you got to wait or you
got to pay.
So I don't know if I like thatelement of the stakes.

Cozy Snap (24:10):
No, it sucks.
I mean, it is what it is callingit what it is.
I think it just reminds me aboutthe mobile game aspect, right?
Like restricting game mode isnever fun.
You know, even if they're givinga generous amount at the
beginning, which is cool, ifthey give like a good amount,
then theoretically you'd have tolose like crazy to lose that,
right?
Because you know, you're goingto get one back if you win.
And so as long as they gave agood, decent starting amount,
how they put it is essentiallylet's see, well, if you keep

(24:33):
winning, you'll never run out,but in addition to free ones,
you're going to receive on thefirst day.
And from Sorcerer Ranks, you'llget more scrolls.
Okay, so I guess you're gonnaget more again, like I said the
first day, and then there's 40gold a pop after that.
If that first initial bonus is alot, then cool.
I think it's fine, because, youknow, if you lose your tail off,
then it's kind of like selfinflicted.
But I will say yeah man, I thinkit's just anything that limits

(24:55):
game modes is a bummer.
You know, they work hard onthese modes.
I think the problem is, is theyput them in a cycle and they
want that cycle to last, and ifsomeone does it too much, like,
that's how they're thinking ofit.
But I don't think that's theright way to think about it.
Because I think if someone playsthe ever living tar out of your
game, you should reward them forthat which will be our next
topic of conversation for theCharms.
I don't know, it's just not afeel good.
It's not a feel good.

(25:15):
Getting a scroll back is good.
I think that's a that's a bonusthere.
But it does have that kind ofbehavior.
Yeah, as you said, sweat andtime.
I should say, yeah, it's lessMakes it less fun.
Now you get charms.
If you win, you can use thecharms to get variants, avatars,
emotes, borders, and up to sevencards.
And this is where people arestarting to freak out a little
bit, starting to freak out.
Don't freak out, but this iswhat they've said.

(25:38):
So how many rewards should Iexpect to earn?
Now we've sold this before.
When we were looking at the gameover, we said big dubs, right?
Because you can have either, Ithink you could pour pull one
of, is it four cards, threecards.
And then you also have an accessto a series four or five that
you don't own.
Which is awesome.
Players that use all of theiravailable free scrolls and
maintain a 50 percent win rateshould be able to acquire enough

(26:01):
charms to purchase two portalpulls or other items of equal
value.
So, essentially, free to playplayers are going to get two
cards from the portal.
And what stinks about that is itcould be Uncle Ben and, you
know, Gorgon and not, you know,Laufey.
Which I think a lot of peopleare aiming for Laufey.
I think that's what a lot ofpeople want.
So you don't get picks, you havean RNG element there, and you

(26:24):
have to decide, that means youcan maybe get one, maybe two
unowned series four or five.
That's a bummer.
I mean, point blank, right?
I mean, yeah, I feel like I'vebeen talking a while, but that's
a bummer, no?

Alexander Coccia (26:37):
How dare you talk on a podcast, sir?

Cozy Snap (26:38):
I know.

Alexander Coccia (26:39):
Awful.
But like, you even have thatJeff emote staring you in the
face, too.
Which is super expensive, I'lladd.
It's like, do I get a card, ordo I get the Jeff emote?
I might take Jeff, honestly.
I don't know.
I'm just stupid like that.
But, you're right.
First of all, to answer yourquestion, For anybody that's
thinking about rolling, you'regoing to get uncle Ben, you
know, that like, we all know,except that anything else is

(27:02):
like, you know, just thank yourlucky stars as they say.
So yeah, uncle Ben's going to bein everyone's collection.
And I was like a little, I waslike, man, like, I'm not saying
give, give everyone everythingaway for free all the time.
However, however, I was like,man, two cards for a new game
mode.
It's, it's good on the surface.

(27:24):
And I think that we shouldn'tcomplain because it's two cards,
even though there's an RG side,but you got that big shop and
there's all those things youwant.
And I feel like people are goingto start FOMOing.
And I feel like people notgetting the Jeff emote, not
getting, and they're going tobe, they're going to, they're
going to be, it's going to befrustrating because they're
going to see those hooks.
They're going to, they're goingto feel those monetary hooks.
They're going to feel the desireto buy more scrolls and they're

(27:44):
going to buy scrolls and they'regoing to lose and they're going
to tilt and they're going totake it to Reddit.
That's what's going to happen.
People are going to spend theirgold on these scrolls and
they're going to lose.
And they're going to lose toSurtur and they're going to lose
to whatever, and they're goingto lose their minds.
And I feel like that might notnecessarily be great for
everyone's mental health.

Cozy Snap (28:03):
Yeah.
So two takes on it and guys,yeah, I've seen comments.
I think the last couple of onesI get, you guys, they've said,
it seems like Alex and cozy bemore pessimistic.
It's not, we're just like, if wedon't say it, it's not being
said loudly enough, and so, youknow, we're just kind of
speaking.
The immediate stuff on our mind.
I would say two part.
First of all, I do think thatif, again, if you play the heck
out of the game, that you shouldbe rewarded for it.

(28:25):
Right?
So if they, if they, I feel likeif the scroll, you already have
the scroll thing in effect.
So the charms, I just, I feellike if you keep playing and you
love the game mode, then youshould be getting more and more
cards for free, especiallybecause they keep saying that
they're not happy with cardacquisition.
This was an easier way to dothat much easier way to do it.
And I feel like.
Okay.
What would solve this to me atleast is if they, if it was a

(28:47):
pick your portal, because for mepersonally, if I get Ben and
Gorgon and then not Laufey andthen I can't get a series four,
that stinks.
I mean, that's a big bummerthere.
And if you would be able topick, I don't like that there's
an RNG element, like anotherspotlight cash element kind of
inside this, right?
And you just hope you get thecard that you want, even if you
want Uncle Ben, I don't knowwhat you want, but if you want
that card, you don't have thatguaranteed choice for it.

(29:08):
And that doesn't feel great.
I wish even if they were justindividual cards within the
shop, then you could pick theone you want.
That also could just feel betterall around.
You know, I get the portalthing, Sanctum, we don't need to
be on theme for it.
Personally, that's how I feel.
But this is the way it is, guys.
And this is the way it is goingto be.
So do prep up for that.
Don't be buying the the Jeffemote if you don't, if you want

(29:29):
other cards, you know, it's justnot going to be possible to get
it.
But yeah, if you win a lot.
The other thing is that I wantedto say about the scroll system.
Is that if they give you a goodamount of scrolls ahead of time,
that's fair.
I like that.
However, I feel like the problemwith that the most is, to what
you said, it's gonna be sweaty.
It doesn't allow you to testwith decks.
This is a whole new game mode,like high voltage, man.
It took a while to figure outsome cool stuff to get together.

(29:51):
You have to go in there and justlike hope it's good right off
the rip, right?
And so the creativity is gonnabe brought down a bit.
And you're gonna have lesschances to test some theories,
test some cards out.
Because those scrolls matter somuch, right?
That's kinda my feelings on it.

Alexander Coccia (30:05):
No, I absolutely agree.
And the other side to that islike, I want to just, like, say
that like, getting free cardsinto the ecosystem is a good
thing.
Like, I don't want to sit hereand be like, Oh, you know, they
made the free cards too hard toget through this game mode and
the scrolls.
Like, the fact that free cardsare achievable is a good thing
for Snap.
It's a good, positive stepforward.
And I think that's somethingwith like, Deadpool's Diner and
with High Voltage, which aregenerally positive things.

(30:27):
Like, you can get these cardsfor free.
However, in this specific case,There's a gotcha element to the
roles.
And even so they're statingthat, you know, you're getting
one or two roles, which meansthat you're not getting the
third.
Right.
And so I'm thinking about like,yeah, we're getting free cards,
but also the hamster wheel isstill there.
You know what I mean?
The treadmill of like, you'renot catching up is still there.

(30:48):
And so like free cards are good,but.
There's still a card now that'sgoing to be emptying your
collection because like, youknow, you will not be able to
keep your collection completeunless you give them those
greenbacks.
You know what I mean?
So like, there's two sides tothis and I'm not, again, without
playing the game mode.
I'm just throwing it out there.
You're getting a couple of freecards, but the pool's also

(31:09):
getting a little bigger.

Cozy Snap (31:10):
I remember how, how nice you were about free cards
when King Eitri came to thegame.
You were so nice about KingEitri being such a free card
that you wanted, Alex, and thathe was, he was so good for the,
for the game.
Actually, he's gonna be goodwith that one card coming out,
right?
I forgot even what card thatwas.
Oh is it the, the spell guy,man?
Agamotto.
He'll be good for Agamotto.
Who's that

Alexander Coccia (31:26):
clown that, like, didn't even make, who's,
like, oh my gosh, the guy with,like, Cobra.
Remember, I didn't even realizehe was in the game and then he
didn't even make the data mines.
I don't even know what happenedto him.
Like I forgot him.
I think the

Cozy Snap (31:37):
devs forgot about him too.
Card died.
These cards are going to go tothe token shop March 13th, which
I also think is good.
But also if they come seriesfive, right now you have Uncle
Ben.
Coming into rotation, dude.
I think they're series four.
Are they?
Okay.
I think they might come intorotation.
But yeah, they are coming tomarch 13th if via the token shop
if you don't want to play thegame, whatever so do know that

(31:58):
and then added to the vault oneyear after their first
appearance I don't the vaultwhat the hell does that mean?

Alexander Coccia (32:04):
Is that is that referencing?
The variants?

Cozy Snap (32:07):
Yeah, I guess I don't know why they would yeah, I
guess so.
Yeah, the vault to collect Maybe

Alexander Coccia (32:11):
variants are part of the pool of car.
Oh, that makes sense

Cozy Snap (32:14):
the rewards there.
They would come from a year fromthen Okay, so the variants are
more exclusive which are somegood ones in there but yeah, so
overall I think the game modei'm pumped like at a surface
level I'm, i'm pumped for a newway to play snap.
I'm pumped for a big ban listcreativity not a fan of the
scroll system And, you know therewards, yeah, I, I personally
think it's I wish if someonecommitted enough time, they

(32:34):
could get.
I'm gonna get what they want,but hey I, I do understand.
I guess why put like, how manycan you purchase in there?
Three or four.
Oh, cause you could just spendmoney to get more.
That makes sense.
I wonder how much that is to endof the fit equals to spotlight
rules.
I don't know.

Alexander Coccia (32:47):
That's, this is the thing that also makes me
nervous about like draft modeand stuff.
Are they just going to monetizeit to the point?
No one's going to want to playit.
You know what I mean?
Like when I play Hearthstone, Idon't play arena because I'm not
buying tickets.
Like, I know, I don't want that.
Like, that's not the way, that'snot the way I like to do things.
And so it's like, I wonder ifDraftVote comes out, if it has
all these scrolls and all thesemonetary mobile systems.

(33:08):
It's just like, blah, blah,blah.
Like, I don't want to play this.
It's like, make it free, make itaccessible.
So that's, I think you're right,Cozy.
I think that just getting peoplein the game mode, getting them
playing, getting them rewards.
People in the ecosystem, we'rethe hardcores, man.
We're the hardcore snap lovers,enjoyers.

Cozy Snap (33:25):
And I will say, like, I think, again, I'm actually a
fan of these, these limited timegame modes.
I just.
Yeah.
I, you know, I think that theyjust have to be the, the rewards
have to be done.
Yeah, the right way.
But anyway, this is what toexpect.
That'll all be coming out prettysoon.
And that's going to bring us toour last subject.
So the subject on this is Marvelsnap China.
And I think a couple of peopleare going to be a bit confused

(33:46):
by it.
But if you don't know, Marvelsnap is available in China.
And I'm not quite sure on thespecifics whether it's a
different developer or adifferent developer within
Second Dinner.
But it's very interesting andthey have some different things
than we have over here and Ithought I wanted to open up the,
the topic for conversation for acouple reasons.
First of all, they do have somedifferent variants which is, you
know, some people, I, I'm notbothered by it, you know, it's

(34:09):
cool, get whatever variants,there must be a reason they're,
they're not over here.
But Alex, some of these areabsolutely, they're cooking,
dude.
Let me put them on screen.
Well, look at this kitty pride,man.
Absolutely.
You know, you'd be purchasedthat day one.
I, that's an Alex coach writtenall over it.

Alexander Coccia (34:24):
Come on, man.
Why you got to do me dirty likethat?
But because,

Cozy Snap (34:26):
because, because of this one right here we've got
this.
Oh, this

Alexander Coccia (34:31):
is why you wanted to do this topic.
Yeah,

Cozy Snap (34:33):
I'm busted, dude.
I'm so pissed.
I'm pissed off.
I want that.
I don't know.
I just want to know why.
Why can't I have my fair share?
X23 has got her own variant.
You got Jubilee.
There's Thanos.
There's a lot of variants thatthey have, but that's not really
the subject of conversationhere.

Alexander Coccia (34:48):
Oh my gosh, dude.
Do they have water in China?
Because it looks pretty thirstyover there.

Cozy Snap (34:52):
I know, dude.
They have a couple otherfeatures, too.
So I thought this was kind ofcool.
They've got like you can re rollall your variants that are in
the shop there for free on oneday, and then I think it's like
60 gold to do it again, which Ithink is a cool concept.

Alexander Coccia (35:08):
I do.
I love it.
I think it's a great, I can'tbelieve that the variant shop is
as bad as it is.
Okay.
So I don't buy a lot ofvariants.
I just don't, I don't know whatit is.
I got like 55, 000 gold.
Oh, I don't know.
Yeah, it's stupid.
I don't know why I don't spendit.
I I'm a hoarder, even in likeRPGs and stuff.
I think I've joked with this inthe past.
I'm the guy who plays anddoesn't assign any of his skill

(35:29):
points.
Because I'm scared ofcommitment.
Okay.
So like, anyways, that's a wholeother conversation for therapy,
but like, I don't understand whythis doesn't exist.
Like there's a couple ofvariants that I've been
searching for, for forever.
Like, for instance, there's aMalekith variant where I, it's
like the painted ones, I don'tremember who does it.
Is it Victor or something?
I wish I remember the name, butit's like this beautiful painted
variant.
And it was there the first day,obviously when Malekith was in

(35:51):
and I was like, I want to buyit.
And I'm like, nah, I won't buyit.
Then I changed my mind.
Cause I actually really likedMalekith.
I'm like, if I really like acard, I want a good variant for
it.
And then it just never cameback.
It never came back.
I can't find it.
I'm like, man, like I want tospend some gold.
And this car just doesn't exist.
It's very, I would love a chanceto refresh or even just buy a
variant that I actually want.
Like miss me with this FOMOgarbage.

(36:12):
Let me look at more variants.

Cozy Snap (36:14):
I agree.
I think a reroll is not that bigof a, I know they want people to
like daily log in each time, butI feel like.
This is another way to do that,man, because they could come and
do their refresh, even like arefresh on a 12 hour timer.
Then you get two logins, man.
And then if they're logged in,they're going to play.
But I don't know.
I feel like I saw this.
I was like, man, this shouldcome to this, to you know, our
side of snap for sure.

Alexander Coccia (36:34):
Or even refresh, like with the, cause
you have to log in three times aday now for the 25 credits.
Just refresh with the credits,man.
Like, is it

Cozy Snap (36:40):
that hard?
Dude.
Now the other thing too, isthey're in a different build.
So like their Loki does what ourLoki did, where like you get
your opponent's cards orwhatever.
They've got, we're moving toChina and go, dude, I, I,
they've got a different build.
I think they even have differentOTAs, different cars.
And we're going to have to dolike review on some of the China
cards eventually.

(37:01):
Cause there's some, there'ssome, I think they might be
different altogether.
I haven't looked into it thatmuch, but I heard about it.
I was like, dude, I got to bringthis up on the Snapchat.
Here's the other thing too, man.
They have this they have a, theyhad a tournament and I don't
know if I read this wrong.
Johnson, who was in, I think oneof the conquer events guy was
insane, man.
He was really good.
I was casting that one.
I was like, man, who is thisguy?
He's amazing.

(37:21):
His team won the China Open.
I don't know what it was called,but that Marvel snap they have
tournaments in China.
Like they have an organized, andthis isn't the first one.
They have several of these likeorganized tournaments.
I think I read a 17, 000tournament, man, which is so
good for the right.
How cool is that, man?
And I'm mad just cause I want tocast it too, but they have,

(37:42):
they're having tournaments overthere too.
And it's proven to be, I think asuccess there.
That to me is awesome.
I I wish you know, I think bythat now it's oh It's too late
for us to have competitive sceneor at least I don't think we're
gonna get one but this showcasethat it can be done and it'd be
so cool if they could do that.
You know, for us here, it's, it,it, I saw this and I was like,
it's a bummer that we never gotit, you know?

Alexander Coccia (38:05):
Oh man.
It's so sad.
It's so sad.
Like Snappy Claus would 100percent come out of retirement
for that.
Snappy Claus would love to get17 K.
I mean, if that's 17 K American,that's like 150, 000 Canadian.
Let's be honest.
So yeah, like, first of all, Ilove it.
I love it.
And I wonder.
If like, first of all, I thinkthere's still opportunities to
do some competitive stuff,right?

(38:25):
Like you still have avenueswhere, you know, you could do a
lot of interesting stuff.
Like, you know, you, you gotPAX, which loves car games,
stuff like that.
But the other side to that islike, maybe just me, I'm
throwing it out there.
Maybe there should be like a,like a Marvel con or something
like that, where like Marvelrivals is championship is done
there.
There's a Marvel snapchampionship.
There's like.
Yeah, like, wouldn't that becool?

(38:46):
Yeah, exactly, Pokemon does it,like, their world is a
celebration and a championshipof all their different Pokemon
games.
Why doesn't Marvel do that?
Wouldn't that be so awesome?

Cozy Snap (38:54):
I bet you they can definitely do it now with Rivals
out and given the popularity ofit.
Like, they, that, I feel like itwasn't enough in any Marvel
games, right?
Like, that were competitiveenough.
Now you have a few now that can,that can make it work.
But yeah, that's a good idea,man.
I didn't actually even thinkabout that.
But yeah, so I thought it wasinteresting.
We'll have to, you know Figureout another time, kind of go

(39:14):
through the cards there andstuff.
But this is the team that won.
I don't even know what deck, Ithink it was an iron, a war
machine deck, but it was adifferent war machine.

Alexander Coccia (39:22):
I don't want to ask a stupid question, but
how the hell did they makeMarvel snap a team game?

Cozy Snap (39:27):
I don't know.
Either way, this is the subjectthat's going to end it on this
side of the Snapchat, guys.

Alexander Coccia (39:32):
Cozy.
How are you, my man?

Cozy Snap (39:34):
My guy doing, doing well, I have a story to tell
you.
So, you know, when you buy likea new car, like a, you get a
Jeep and then you start seeingJeeps on the road, right?
You'll see Jeeps or, or it couldbe something that you didn't
even know a car.
You didn't know existed.
And then you see that car andyou're like, I didn't even know
existed a week ago.
My friend, I'm on, it was eitherTwitter, I forgot where it was,

(39:54):
I was editing though, and I hadit up on another page, and I got
a pop up, no, it was YouTube, itwas on my homepage, which I
don't know how it was on myhomepage, but IGN had a trailer
for a new game coming up, and Iwas like, oh cool, what's this
game?
Samurai Pizza Cats?
The video game bro, I didn'teven know this existed before

(40:14):
you brought this up and then outof nowhere They're re bringing
this thing to life 30 yearslater as a video game, bro.
I was cracking up.
Did you know this?

Alexander Coccia (40:23):
I couldn't believe it either.
Yes, the amount of like mentionsand people kind of telling me
about this was insane.
The fact that nobody has talkedabout this game for decades, or
this show for decades, and thenlike we bring it up on the
Snapchat and people actuallylost their minds.
In fact, like we actually hadsome comments from that, like JJ
Simon had said, I can't believethey announced a new Samurai
Pizza Cats game two weeks afteryou guys talked about it.

(40:45):
No one's mentioned the cartoonfor decades and Unsolved Paradox
followed that up with.
Samurai Pizza Cats just got anew video game announced today.
The Snapchat's influence growsevery day.
Do you think they brought itback just for us?
They did.

Cozy Snap (40:58):
They put together the full game.
They heard it.
They were like, Get everybodythat we have for two weeks
straight.
We're gonna go on a bender toget the trailer out.
Bro, I couldn't believe it.
I was like, I didn't even knowthis thing existed.
And then I thought it was like,you know, where you like talk
about something and it shows upon your phone and you're like,
they're listening.
I thought, I thought it was likea trailer for an old game.
I don't know what I thought, butall I know is I saw it.

(41:19):
So I, I officially saw it.
I didn't watch the intro, but Isaw that.
I did see that now.
So now I saw

Alexander Coccia (41:23):
the trailer, but you didn't watch the actual
same one?
I figured it was better than theintro.

Cozy Snap (41:26):
I felt like it was like, it told me what I needed
to know.

Alexander Coccia (41:29):
So the question is when are we getting
cozy samurai pizza cats?

Cozy Snap (41:32):
I got my own skin coming to the game.
You'll have to see I'm onembargo.
I can't talk about it.
Not all

Alexander Coccia (41:37):
fair enough.
Okay.
So that's going to be the newcompetitive game that cozy will
be covering on his ninthchannel.

Cozy Snap (41:43):
Third, fourth, fourth, it'd be fourth.
Yeah.

Alexander Coccia (41:46):
But yeah, so anyways, if you're looking
forward to learning all aboutthe samurai pizza cats, you
don't have to wait too muchlonger as it looks like some
sort of side scrolling it might,to be honest with you, it kind
of looks like it might beshovelware.
Like, I don't know, I waslooking at the trailer, I'm like
Yeah, I don't know if this isgood.

Cozy Snap (42:01):
I don't know if this is gonna be a good game.
You're a doubter.
You're a doubter.
Look at this Redwing juststaring down people in the face.
He's cute.
He's cute.
He is looking right into yoursoul.

Alexander Coccia (42:11):
He is.
He's got like some sort of likebinocular glasses there.
And I gotta tell you, he looksvery palatable there.
Something tells me, so first ofall, Redwing, is he a bald
eagle?

Cozy Snap (42:22):
He's a

Alexander Coccia (42:22):
falcon.
Oh shi Okay, now I was going toask a dumb question.
Are falcons eagles?
They're obviously not, right?
They're just completelydifferent species?
No,

Cozy Snap (42:30):
falcons are falcons.
Falcons are falcons.
I actually saw that in one of mycomments, and they asked what
bird it was, and I was like,It's a falcon.
It's a falcon.
It's a falcon, because falcon.
Yeah, the pet falcon has a petfalcon.

Alexander Coccia (42:40):
That makes sense.
That's a little on the nose inmy opinion.
It's like the Teenage MutantNinja Turtles having pet
turtles.

Cozy Snap (42:46):
What show was I watching where it's like,
animals live in it?
Like, I think it, it wasn'tblue.
It was something.
There's something like that andthen they were eating like
hamburgers and I was like do thecat do they know do the do the
What how and they were a day Icould tell was it impossible
mean I could tell from adistance

Alexander Coccia (43:02):
Man, that brings me back to something that
I thought was so funny not tolike completely derail the
conversation about Red Wing Butwhen we were in Florida, this
was last year We were drivingthrough like just like the
highway and it was like tons ofbillboards and stuff I don't
know how billboards work in theStates, but it seems like
anybody can write the frigginbillboard Cause we were driving
by the billboards and it waslike, billboards about churches

(43:22):
and about like all these randomthings.
And then there was one billboardthat was like, you wouldn't eat
peppa pig.
And it had a huge picture of pepon it.
It was like some vegetarianrestaurant.
Right.
I was like, that's kind of aneye catching, I guess it worked.
I noticed the, I noticed thebillboard.
And then the next one, the nextone was.
Like F Peppa pig.

(43:44):
And it was like this rib place,right?
Like next exit, like best ribsin Florida.
I was like, damn, that is, thisguy's cooking.
It's like, he drove on thishighway and saw the Peppa pig
billboard.
It was like, no, no, no, we'renot having that.
If you're going, if you're goingNorth on the eye, whatever,
you're going to see my placeright after the Peppa pig one,
we're, we're taking Peppa down,

Cozy Snap (44:03):
I mean, you can put pretty much anything on a
billboard.
However, I don't think you putcopyright.
So I'm surprised they did Peppa.
I'm surprised I'm sure that hassince been taken down, but.
Maybe, I don't know, maybe they,or is Peppa Pig a legal domain?
Definitely not.

Alexander Coccia (44:17):
Oh, I have no idea, but I'm just saying that
this is, someone out there has apicture of it.
Cause it was, someone fromFlorida knows exactly what I'm
talking about.

Cozy Snap (44:24):
Someone find it for us, find it.
Okay, we've derailed, we've gonea good five minutes into our,
our episode of the Snapchathere.
Redwing, is he good?
Isn't he great?

Alexander Coccia (44:33):
No, Red Wing is absolute garbage.
Like, somehow, Red Wing is wayworse than I expected.
And I, like, I had, like,tempered expectations.
In my head, I'm like, he's a 3 4that brings value on the board.
How bad can Red Wing be?
It turns out he's absolute dog,dog manure.
47 percent win rate, popularityof under 6%, Cuberate's well
negative.

(44:54):
The best deck is a Surtr deck,which just looks like someone
just got drunk and put Redwingin it.
It does no intention of actuallypulling Redwing.
That's a 54 percent with abarely positive Cuberate.
There is no other positiveCuberate deck.
It is a disaster.
Cubering's a disaster.
Cubering.
Redwing is a disaster.
And it's unfortunate becauselike I think there was a lot of

(45:15):
people that actually misread thecard.
I got this comment on so manytimes on my video where it's
like, Oh man, I thought he movedhimself.
How is this a bird that does notmove himself?
Right.
And I understand that.
But at the same time, like wediscussed at length how it
needed an activator and thatkind of brought it down a little
bit.
It definitely felt rough.
Could this card potentially begood someday?

(45:35):
Maybe, right?
Maybe.
Does it get buffed to a 3 5?
I mean, that even feels likeit's crazy.
It feels like it's crazy to be a3 5 because I think the effect
is not far off from being good.
It's just that you're workingwith too many random elements.
It doesn't move itself.
You can't control what it pulls.
And so, yeah, it's reallyunderperformed, unfortunately.

Cozy Snap (45:53):
Yeah, I don't think we called that.
I think the only thing we gaveof, of light last week was
Dracula Dump has a, has a shotwith it.
But it doesn't.
Yeah, Red Wing, it was a cardthat, it just, let, I mean,
right up to Thaddeus.
It's gotta be the worst twoweeks ever, ever for cards.
Like, there's no question.
I think there's just no shot.
Thaddeus into Red Wing is atough Back to back.

Alexander Coccia (46:13):
It's so funny you bring that up because, so I
did a lot, I huffed a lot ofcope, a lot of cop, and was
huffed.
And I actually made a red wingdeck that was like an electro
ramp deck where I actually usedthaddius and it was onic.
And I, I bet you I, of allpeople, I've played thaddius
maybe the most because I, forsome reason just kept playing
them.
And I've actually come around onthas a little bit.

(46:34):
I'm not going to say he's good,but I feel like he's probably
better than you think he is.
Like that's, that's what I'mgoing to say.
I think that is, is better thaneveryone who's listening thinks
he is because I've been playingthem a lot and I'm like, you
know what, I'm drawing cards,man.
I'm drawing cards.
The only challenge is, is thecurrent decks that he's best in,
like Surtur don't necessarilyneed to draw cards because like
they.
Don't have an issue gettingchunks.

(46:55):
Like you're playing Surtur,sorry, Scar on turn six.
Right.
And so like, you have a goodopportunity to draw into that.
You usually have something toplay on three or four, like you
have a crossbones or whatever.
Right.
Or cause you're playing SamWilson, you can throw down call
obsidian.
Like you've got these options.
So the drawing there doesn'twork, but I feel like Thaddeus
might be one day relevant.
Like I'm just throwing it outthere right now.

(47:17):
I think Thaddeus might begetting a bad rap.
However, it does not help thatthe Spotlight Cash Week was a
little sus, and with Red Wing,you have a really good Spotlight
Week, you have Loki, and youhave what's his name, Zemo,
who's honestly super metarelevant right now, with Milo
going absolutely insane, and sopeople are like, rolling for
Zemo, and like, Being mad thatthey got Redwing It's so funny

(47:41):
the comments.
Everyone's like I went for Zemoand I got Redwing F this game
I'm like man, what is happeningout here right now?
And that's that's the gotchamechanics, right?
That's that's how they get youwith the gotcha stuff But
overall like I mean, we're notgonna just keep piling on
Redwing here like the card sucksYou definitely don't need it in
every archetype where he evenfelt remotely playable He felt

(48:02):
like a worse version of thatarchetype.
If you're playing Move, justplay Little Bouncers.
If you're gonna be playing likeDracula Dump, just play non
garbage version of Dracula Dump.
If you're gonna be playing Rampdon't.
Because Ramp sucks right now forthe most part, unless you're
playing Wiccan.
But the Wiccan style of Rampdoes not want to play Red Wing.
So it's like, he just doesn'thave his archetype yet.
It does, archetypes need him.

(48:22):
He's in this island by himself,or he feels like You just really
don't need them.
And if the day comes where redwing is popping off and he's
going crazy, then maybe considerthe 6k tokens.
As of right now, if you haveLoki and Zemo, this is the most
skippable week of skippableweeks.
I honestly, like, I wouldn't sayhe's a one star card, but he
definitely feels like he's inthe two star range.

Cozy Snap (48:43):
Yeah, and I feel like even getting him to a 3 5
wouldn't do much.
Black Swan was a 3 5, didn't getplayed.
It's just the effect beingwonky.
And I love how you opened upwith people said that it's a
bird that can't move and wehave, we have like, you know,
everything in this game shouldmove, you know what I mean?
It's like, okay, Spider Man2099, he should move probably,
right?
I, I feel like Glenn willprotect this card like he did

(49:05):
Spider Man 2099.
Like, there's a deck.
There's a red wing deck outthere nobody's using but there's
not

Alexander Coccia (49:11):
no I don't think there is because when I
put it into like the auto deckbuilder It made like some random
air shim deck that made nosense.

Cozy Snap (49:18):
Oh, that thing's been dead The auto deck builder is a
wreck dude.

Alexander Coccia (49:21):
It's a absolute disaster If you're
listening to this right now, andyou're like, oh I use the auto
deck builder.
It's building you garbage Do notuse it.
You're better off just pickingrandom stuff.
Like do not pick Do not use theauto deck builder.
It's a complete disaster.
I even tried to do, like, this,like, Red Wing surfer deck with,
like, strong guy.
Talk about Cope.

(49:42):
And Cozy, would it surprise youto know that it sucked there
too?

Cozy Snap (49:46):
There's not anything else to say on Red Wing.
He's bad.
He's bad, right?
He's awful.
Yeah, he's bad.
You know what it said that truecrime was?
Is that it was twist drop weekaround him.
And so there was, at some point,people were playing surfer
strong guy decks because it'sjust Because it's on drops.

Alexander Coccia (50:04):
Yeah, that's why, like, I played, so the
first night of drops, I playedright wing, and I'm like, I
can't play this, this crapanymore.
So I, I stopped playing rightwing, I started doing a bunch of
cope, with like Evo and stuff,like I went hard into Evo,
trying to figure them out.
I think I'm close to a prettygood Evo deck.
I had some Moongrill A bombstuff happening.
I did, I did a couple turnswhere I just, I threw down like,
I think 41 power in a turn, onetime.

(50:24):
It was like, it was the nuts.
It was the absolute roasted Cocoschnutz.
Like, I, I had the perfect hand.
So yeah, Red Wing, veryskippable.
Wow, we were all over the placeon this intro.
But you know what else was allover the place, Cozy, was the
opinions on series drops.
Series drops came into MarvelSnap, we've been waiting for it,
and just so you guys know, Cozyand I had no knowledge of the

(50:47):
series drops in advance.
No knowledge that they weregoing to announce them, no
knowledge of what was in them,we had no idea.
And it just so happens, and thishas happened before, when we
talk about series drops, andthen like, they happen?
like, what?
That's like the third time it'shappened to us, where like, it's
like we've willed them intoexistence.
Maybe we gotta talk, maybe wegotta add the series drops
conversation into like, the,into the, the rotating ring of

(51:07):
like, these cards suck, andlike, best cards in Snap, like
the, if, you go through mythumbnails, there's like the,
There's like a, like, we're likea rotating dial topics.
I mean, we've got to add theseries drops into it.

Cozy Snap (51:18):
I feel like they've all been on your side too.
They're like, so it's, this isjust the, this is the series
drop.
It's like the Snapchat mailbag.
We'll just put it as a permanentand we'll just talk about it
forever.
I think it works.
It just, we'll make sure it'scoming.
If it's not, what do we think?
How much do we hate it?
How much do we hate this onethough?
What do we think?
Or like it?
I don't know.
We, we talked it up.
We said that they are probablygoing to do a massive one.

(51:38):
It dropped a lot of cards.

Alexander Coccia (51:40):
They did.
And when you consider that, likethis drop is coming relatively
quickly after the prior one,they held on their word.
The prior drop was veryunderwhelming.
And then this one did comerelatively fast comparatively to
like what they usually do,right?
Like, well, we didn't wait ayear, right?
So I guess that's positive.
Right.
So it did come faster.
They did drop more cards.
It was a lot larger series jobs.

(52:00):
We'll read through the cards.
Before I read through the cardsthough, what I'll say, I'll
preface this by saying that Ifeel like.
We had talked about how theyhave to knock it out of the
park.
I believe you asked me, Alex,from one to 10, like how hard
they got to hit these drops.
And I said, anything less thanan eight is like a failure.
And I felt like they came in atlike a seven.
I felt like not, not that it'sbad.

(52:20):
I felt like they, they, theyflew very close.
Like a falcon gliding across thewater.
If the waves came ever so muchhigher, that falcons underwater,
they, they did, they droppedmore cards, but like, they
really played with fire a littlebit here.
Like they, they came too close.
They could have thrown a coupleextra bangers in there.
Jeff's not there.

(52:40):
There's a couple cards missing.
Right.
I felt like it was just enough,just enough to be good enough,
but also I don't think it turnsthe tide of the consumer
opinion.

Cozy Snap (52:52):
Yeah.
And I get that they're doing theyou know, they have the card
acquisition.
There's a much larger solutionas they, as they've stated.
Yeah.
I, how many did they drop intotal?
I'm looking at the cards.
I could count

Alexander Coccia (53:06):
them right now, but let's just talk.
Let's talk to cards here.
Okay.
Down to series four are Lokiblob, Sebastian Shaw, Elsa,
Bloodstone, Miss Marvel,werewolf by night scar, black
night, Corvus Glaive, CullObsidian, Cannonball, and
Annihilus.

(53:26):
That's down to series four downto series three, which is very
notable for free to playplayers, especially with the
increase to the card acquisitionthey provided the last couple of
months.
Hercules, Selene, Havoc, Mobiusand Mobius, Lady Deathstrike,
Spider Ham, Silk, Nebula, GhostSpider, Nimrod, M.

(53:47):
O.
D.
O.
K., Zabu, and finally, andliterally finally, Null.

Cozy Snap (53:53):
So like 24, 25, I think is what I counted in
there.
Okay.
It's a big

Alexander Coccia (53:56):
drop.
Gotta give him credit.
It's a big drop.

Cozy Snap (53:58):
And how many cards did I say were in, I forgot,
there's like a hundred andsomething that are in Series

Alexander Coccia (54:02):
5.
I don't know, man.
I don't listen to you.

Cozy Snap (54:05):
Okay yeah, that's, that's good.
Do we talk Series 4 or Series 3or as a whole?
How do you want to break itdown?

Alexander Coccia (54:10):
Let's start with the conversation around a
series going to series three.
Cause I think that's reallyrelevant for free to play
players because those cards dobecome easily accessible.
So again, Hercules, Selene,Havoc, Mobius and Mobius, Lady
Deathstrike, Spider Ham, Silk,Nebula, Ghost Spider, Nimrod,
Modok, Zabu, and Null.
Anything there really stick out.

Cozy Snap (54:29):
I called Nebula.
I remember thinking Nebula woulddrop, and she did.
Yeah, we talked,

Alexander Coccia (54:32):
yeah.

Cozy Snap (54:33):
And that's a good one, definitely.
You'll play that one.
Noel finally going down is good,but I think anyone who's playing
Marvel Snap right now has Noel.
That's my guess, for the mostpart.
I can't imagine anyone reallynot having Noel.
Same, you know, Zabu, you'regonna play a good amount too.
And, that's about it.
I thought Mobius Mobius was goodto get down there, because he's
a tech card.
Yeah, we called

Alexander Coccia (54:52):
that too.
Yeah, we called

Cozy Snap (54:53):
that.
Everything else There is a padin the stats.
It's cards.
You're not gonna play.

Alexander Coccia (54:59):
Yeah, and I mean Hercules literally speed
ran getting buffed And youdropped all the way down like
it's kind of crazy what Herculesdid I mean havoc again, these
are very niche cards I thinkspider him down a series three
is a winner because it's thekind of card that

Cozy Snap (55:14):
yeah I bet she

Alexander Coccia (55:14):
was being underplayed right now I bet she
was being underplayed right nowand it's one of those cards that
if more people had and justthrew in it's a Good like oh,
I'm missing one.
I'm missing silver sable from abounce deck Well, now you can
put Spider Ham in there.
It's not ideal, but it'sactually, it's not bad, man.
Like, you could maybe, like, youknow, pump, pump some piggies.
And then you got the the Nimrod,which unfortunately Pump some

(55:35):
piggies.
I don't know what I'm sayinganymore, man, it's late.
Then you have Nimrod, which wasjust in the spotlight cache, you
know, natural.
Debula was just in the spotlightcache, natural.
Zabu's a great drop, Zabu'sactually seen play, and I'm
going to say this, I'm going tosay this, because I got called
out in a comment.
Someone said, Alex said Zabu wasgarbage and now it's in every
deck.
Zabu still sucks, okay?

(55:55):
I'm just, I'm just, I'm diggingmy heels in.
Zabu as a card still sucks, it'sjust that these four drops and
the decks running the four dropsare so unbelievably cracked that
it's worth playing Zabu.
Like, it's literally like, oh,Wiccan is so good it's worth
playing Quicksilver.
Zbu sucks, but Serer is sostupid right now.
And every car that benefitsfrom, from cert, these four

(56:17):
cops, then BU's good.

Cozy Snap (56:17):
Then BU's good.

Alexander Coccia (56:19):
No, ZBU sucks.
He's just good right now.

Cozy Snap (56:22):
Oh, okay.
All right.
Fair enough.
I yeah, as, as a full, I thinkthere's the two schools of
thought.
Yeah.
I saw one tweet saying, Hey,it's cards you don't need, but
other people need, and I.
I yeah, I don't know, man, I, Ithink you said it best when
you're like, they just didenough.
I think the numbers, a lot, Ithink there's a lot of, yeah, a

(56:44):
lot of stuff there.
But to me, right, sometimes whenyou, back in the day, when you
used to sign up for cable.
And you had like you had like ahundred channels on there and
you're like, whoa, a hundredchannels and you're like, but we
only watched two, you know,like, I feel like it didn't,
doesn't matter how many they addon there.
And if you don't play with themall, I think some of these,
like, just needed to get out ofthere.
The clutter, you know what Imean?

(57:04):
Especially I'll say this, ifthey're bringing in some way
with their, their cardacquisition to have unowned
series or whatever, like if,like what we saw in this game
mode, if that's coming to, thenI'm glad a lot of the crap got
out of here.
So, like, even though they'rebad names, I'm glad that they're
not in here, right?
Like, because now they're out ofthe system for the most part,

(57:25):
and that's, you know, definitelygood.
If you look at the ones that aredown to series four, you know,
most of those aren't like superclutter in there as well.
I know we'll talk about thosenext, but.
Yeah, I was underwhelmed.
I'll say that yeah, I wasunderwhelmed definitely overall,
but I don't I don't know It'sjust hard to tell what their
whole vision is with the cardacquisition at this moment

Alexander Coccia (57:45):
Yeah, and I mean listen Darkhawk obviously
has some sort of crazy plotarmor He didn't come down which
is wild if Null was going downHe thought Darkhawk would but
overall like here's the thingthough And I think the
quicksilver Wiccan comment Imade before actually kind of
rings true Or is that like someof these cards might be bad now
But making them accessible intolocations, not locations, into
collections, all of a suddenlike Zabu was unplayable since

(58:06):
his nerf from a 2 2 to ongoingwhatever it was.
And then now Zabu's seen playbecause the meta shifted, Surger
came out.
And so there might come a timewhere LDS, or Lady Deathstrike,
is phenomenal, right?
Actually, she did get nerfed!Like, this was a great card at
one point.
Havoc saw some play with some ofthese, like, Agent Venom decks,
right?
So, like, these might not bemassive catch alls of sexiness,

(58:28):
but at the same time, it's like,their time might come.
And MODOK is an archetypedefiner, too, and I'm glad MODOK
made it, though.

Cozy Snap (58:34):
Yeah, I think the one thing that I always want to be
careful of with Marvel Snap ingeneral, because I've been
around games like this before,is just white knighting for it,
right?
So, like, Essentially beinglike, you know, well, at least
we got this.
And, you know, I think thebiggest issue is serious jobs is
like moving forward.
And that's more what I'm zero.
Like, we're like, yeah, Zabuwent down, like Zabu, here we

(58:55):
go.
But at the same time, Zabu cameout two years ago, right?
More than two years ago, twoyears ago.
That, that's a, that's asilliness, right?
Like, even, even mentioning twoyears ago.
And, and so, to me, it's like,I, That, that's what's gotta get
figured out the most with someof this.
And so, like, celebrating Zabuand Noel is great, but it's been
two years now.
And so, that's what I want to bemainly addressed.

(59:17):
And I think this was a gooddeclutter.
But, it also feels like, it'slike, alright, we got a lot of
the older cards in.
And I, I think probably Iwould've just wished there was a
couple other Newer ones or atleast like in the middle ground
a little bit or more shocks, youknow More she hoax on that one
kind of kind of feel

Alexander Coccia (59:35):
Yeah, it definitely has a, like a
trophies for last place feelcelebrating mediocrity, like
we're like, Hey, look, theydropped Modok finally.
And it's like, bro, you havelong Modok has been as like in
this game for, and I mean, whenyou talk about the series five
to four cards, it does get alittle better.
And what I like about thesecards is that these are often

(59:55):
cards that it's hard to spend 6ktokens on because like it's
Sebastian Shaw, for instance,right?
It's like, he just goes in likeone deck.
He goes in surfer and he'sawesome in surfer, but it's
like, it's hard to make thatinvestment.
Elsa bloodstone is just like,you don't, you just don't invest
in Elsa bloodstone, but scarit's like, if, if you don't have

(01:00:16):
Surtur, do you get scar, right?
Like it's probably not.
But if you do have Surtur,you're like, Oh, I'm missing
scar.
Scar is pretty good.
But then do you, do you haveAries and stuff like that?
Right.
So it's, it's, it's very trickywith these.

Cozy Snap (01:00:29):
Well, in Call of Cities, and yeah, some of these,
like, one, and I kind of wishthey'd do this with all those.
Like, even though Dying Back isjust now coming back out, is
just an example off the top ofmy head, right?
Like, the ones that are justkind of more niche, I feel like
are just, like, great for Series4.
They just feel good.
I'm not talking about deckcompleters, if that's a word.
Like, those I can understand,you know, maybe, like, the X23s
of the world or whatever.
But, like, the ones that aretruly niche, I feel like those

(01:00:52):
fit way better, and we're seeingthat, right?
The Corvus Glaive, the CoolObsidian you know, and whatnot.
But yeah, I, again, it's a lotof cards, and I'm sure there's
plenty of our listeners thatdon't have a good amount of
these, so I'm pumped.
That's awesome.
Just because it doesn't affect,let's say, me or another person
doesn't I mean, it doesn'taffect many.
And, in fact, if I look at theDiscord announcement right here,
not like that says much ofanything, but you got 920 fire

(01:01:15):
emojis.
And you have 491 thumbs up andonly 381 skulls of death and so
And 206 yawns, so obviously morepeople are pumped about it.
And I agree.
I think it's definitelydefinitely good you gave it a
seven.
I give it like a six and that'llbump up more once I know their
plan

Alexander Coccia (01:01:35):
The most scientific of polls.
Oh yeah.
I don't know why they should dopolitical polls.
And so it sounded like callingpeople on the phone.
Just look at, look at how manyfire emojis or how many skull
emojis that are on discord cozy.
That's actually, you're actuallycooking.
Honestly, that was such a greatlittle touch there.
What I'll close thisconversation with is that,
generally speaking, I think thatseries drops cannot just be this

(01:01:56):
like, Hey, we did it guys.
Like you downloaded us on theplay store into oblivion and you
destroyed our steam rating.
You do all these things.
You got it.
You got the big drop and go awaynow.
Right?
No, it's like you need a plan.
You need to come up with anactual plan.
And they do say at the top thatthey, they're aware that it's
not like going to fix the coreissues.
And they do have plans comingout.
You know, would love to seethat.
We'd love to see thatimplemented.

(01:02:16):
I hope they nail it becauselike, let's be honest.
Second, there's obviously asuper talented team.
There's no question.
There's a talented team.
And now that they've had somechanges with the publishing and
stuff like that, there's a lotof changes happening at like the
corporate level of Marvel snap.
Maybe they kicked some of thesuits out.
Maybe they're like, Hey guys,like maybe they have more
autonomy as a company.
I don't know.
I'd like to hope I'm huffing thehopium here.

(01:02:38):
And maybe they're able to say,you know what, we're going to
release cards, just like on thesame cadence.
And if you know, it's June,you're going to expect the cards
from last June to drop, or ifthey're going to be serious
three year, this, we need toactually resolve the card
acquisition.
And it does benefit us.
Like you said, it doesn'tbenefit us.
Yeah.
We got all the cards and all thecontractors have the cards, but
I'll tell you how it benefitssomeone like me selfishly.
Is that like.

(01:02:59):
It keeps people in the MarvelSnap ecosystem, right?
Like, it's like, there's areason why, like, people have
dropped off the game.
Because they don't have thecards.
And they, they feel like they'llnever have the cards.
And they're on a hamster wheelthat's never going to get
easier.
And so, once you make that feeleasier, and you keep people in
the ecosystem, and you make themfeel like they're a valued part
of the ecosystem, and not justsome number that's going to get

(01:03:22):
pumped.
Nine bundles every single daywhen they scroll through their
shop to get their 25 credits.
Cause it's the only lifelinethey have as a free to play
player, right?
Maybe they'll stick aroundbecause I'd hate to tell you a
model snap.
There is a ton of competition,whether it comes from Marvel
rivals, Pokemon, or whatever,there's a ton of competition for

(01:03:42):
your player's time, hell from mytime, for your time, right?
Like there is competition outthere and you guys got to step
up.
And one of the ways you step upis by fixing the series drops.
Alright Cozy, that's going tobring us to our Snapchat
mailbag.
And we talked about the SamuraiPizza Cats, that was most
certainly part of the mailbagsegment, sir.
And the next question comes fromTricky Otter.

(01:04:03):
And it reads, Recently had ourbaby girl.
So excited to be a dad.
However, I just find myself busyand tired all the time.
So where I used to be a hardcoregamer, I now just play Snap and
some games on my Switch.
What are some big lifestylechanges that happened for you
two once you had kids?
Also, what's your best dad joke?
I'll leave it to the commentsection for dad jokes, because

(01:04:25):
I'm putting Cozy on the spothere.
But what are some of thelifestyle changes that happened
when we had kids?

Cozy Snap (01:04:30):
Oh man, a lot, right?
Free time gone.
Mainly free time gone.
I always go back to thinkingabout I was like watching ESPN a
couple days before my son wasborn.
He's like hanging out there onthe couch, and it's like It's
really that your free time isnot so much gone, it is a little
bit, but it's more of like, thefree time you do have, you're so
selective with it, because it'sso rare and few and far between.
And instead of living life foryourself, you live life for

(01:04:52):
others, right?
And, I mean, you should be doingthat anyway, but even more so
when you have kiddos.
Lifestyle changes.
A lot.
Sleep, staying up late, stayingup you know, waking up earlier,
whatever.
I will say too, for me, I'vealways been health conscious and
very like, you know, gym focusedand stuff, but when I had my
son, I was like 20 times moredialed in and I thought about my

(01:05:13):
own life more in a sense oflike, I need to make sure I'm
healthy for, for my family andfor him rather than for myself.
Right.
So that was a big, there's somuch to talk about here, but
that's what I'll open up with.

Alexander Coccia (01:05:22):
Yeah, no, absolutely.
And like, I think for me, it'slike people often ask me like,
Like, Alex, like, how do you goto work as a teacher, then
immediately stream Twitch Draftstill midnight, then go back to
work the next day, and all thatstuff?
Like, how do you stay motivated?
It's like, well, I'm motivatedbecause, like, I'm saving for my
kids education.
And I want them to look back andbe like, man, my dad grinded for
us, you know what I mean?

(01:05:42):
Like, my dad Like he, he burnedthe midnight oil so that we
could live a cool life, so thatwe could go to Florida and look
at like Peppa Pig billboards,and that we could, you know, all
do that stuff, like it keeps memotivated, right?

Cozy Snap (01:05:53):
And I'll say this, I want to add to this, Alex and I,
holy crap guys, would you bet,you'd be looking at different
content creators if we had nokids, like, you guys would be
getting five hour Snapchatepisodes, you'd be getting, you
know, subathons between the twoof us.
Like, that's like, I envy like Ialways, I like, love the guys,
Dexter, Dara, you POSs, theyhave no kids and the obligations

(01:06:14):
are not there.
And it just changes as much asyou would, you know, that's why
I can only do so much as acontent creator.
I, by some, was quite literallyborn when Snap came out, like,
to the day.
And like, my life would be a lotdifferent if I didn't, but
obviously I would never tradethat my son is the most
important part of my life next,you know, with my wife.
But you know, that, that'sdefinitely a, a, a big part of

(01:06:36):
it.
But yeah, from like, from gamingto really just like inner focus,
all that changes.
Anyway, that, that, you know,that's what I would say around
it all.

Alexander Coccia (01:06:45):
Yeah, for me, it's like, I've been trying to
incorporate like playing gameswith my kids.
Like right now, like, my kids,they play Mario cart, which is
nice.
The game is perfectly designedfor your son or daughter just to
hold a controller and it'lllike, just go around the track
for them, right?
Like it's pretty cool.
And they also like playing thesuper sorry, the teenage mutant
Ninja Turtles.
It's like a game on Xbox andit's like this anime one.

(01:07:06):
It's, it's like awesome.
It's so good.
And like, you just got a buttonmash.
They love it.
They're really into the NinjaTurtles.
There's actually a couple likeIPs that are making massive
comebacks, like like Sonic'smaking a massive comeback.
Ninja Turtles is making amassive comeback, and so I try
to do this stuff with the kids,and again, I just want to
reiterate, I'd like to see somedad jokes in the comments, we'll
read out some of the best dadjokes next week, so leave them
if you got them, but yeah I justwant to reiterate what Cozy said

(01:07:28):
as well, if, if we had like, ifI had gotten successful on
YouTube, or Twitch, like when Iwas in my 20s, like man, What a
ride that would have been had tohappen to me.
Like when I was approaching 40years old, like I'm already, I'm
already a has been and I, youknow, you finally get your pop
off, but I wouldn't changeanything.
I'm so grateful for what I have.
And yeah, I absolutely love it.

(01:07:48):
Going into our next questionhere.
We have Ashreel who asks, Ireally liked the otherwise text
on Adam Warlock.
I think it will unlock otherinteresting car designs in the
future.

Cozy Snap (01:07:59):
Heck yeah.
I think we mentioned that too.
I think that's definitely way upthere on, on my list of things
I'd like to see, because itadds.
It proved that there's justminimal design that they can add
to really make something thatmuch better.
And I think, I think we talkedabout this for a while, like
the, the, all the guardians ofthe galaxy could use something
like that, like two effects orwhatever.
And I hope that, you know, westart to get more of those once

(01:08:20):
they see the success from Adam.

Alexander Coccia (01:08:21):
Yeah.
And otherwise is really nicetoo, because like, it's a single
word that does not take up thatmuch space on a card.
That carries a lot of meaning.
You know what I mean?
Like it, it really like in oneword summarizes the effect
really well.
You know what I mean?
So it's very concise language.
So kudos to whoever designedthat, whether it's Glenn or some
if it's an intern hire that damnintern, man, they're cooking,

(01:08:43):
they're cooking, let them cook.
But yeah, we really liked that alot.
Shaq's comes in with a commentand shout out to Shaq's, by the
way, always commenting suchpositive things all the time.
They said, thanks for the video.
I agree on the card masterysystem.
It's all right, but not truecard mastery and could have been
much better.
I hope things improve and hopethat neither of you get affected
by any of the negativity.

(01:09:04):
And we do, we do hear a lot oflike negativity around, around
the sides, but Cozy, like, Ithink you can talk to this
because we tend to beparticularly positive.
And I think that comes from aplace of love.
Like we actually do love thegame and.
I don't know about you, but I'mcheering for snaps like
turnaround because like I'm moremotivated by like views or
numbers, but because like, okay,I personally, I've met the met
many members of the team fromsecond dinner.

(01:09:26):
They're wonderful people.
They're super talented, and Ithink that this we talked about
before this future of snap,right?
I think the future snap is stillbright, especially with the
changes of publisher and stufflike that.
I'm not letting the negativitywear me down.
I still love the game.

Cozy Snap (01:09:39):
Yeah, I, I feel like it's like, I have to make a
public statement every now andthen.
It's like that I still likeSnap, still play Snap.
I would not be doing this.
I would not be, you know Rivals,fortunate enough, is going
awesome.
And that's great.
I'm very blessed about it.
So much so with what we justtalked about with kids.
Like, I would not be doing Snapif I wasn't A, having fun,

(01:10:00):
didn't believe in it, and didn'tlove it, right?
And so, do I I'm always morecritical on the things I love,
always more critical, and Youknow, I think that's why we're
ever so more critical now.
Like if my son was doing bad ina class and he had a 90, then I
went to a 70.
It's like, okay, it's first weekof school, but when there's two

(01:10:21):
weeks of school left and he'sgot still a 72, I'm like, it's
time to get it in the gear.
And I get more folks, more.
So that's where a lot of our.
If you want to call itnegativity, as we ramped up,
it's because we know we'reOverwatch is a great game to
bring up, because you've gotrivals that came out, obviously
that's the competition.
Blew Overwatch a ton out of thewater in all metrics for still.

(01:10:43):
But then, Overwatch came outwith this new thing, perks or
whatever, and people aren'tjumping up to it's not swarming
everybody back, because it canbe too late sometimes, when you
lose somebody.
So we are on Snap now, becausewe both believe in Snap still
doing well, and we want to seeit continue to do well.
I love Overwatch, by the way,you know, no knock on that, but
it is, you know, just a goodexample of a comparison of a
game.

(01:11:03):
But yeah, would love to see, youknow, it do well and still,
still loving the, still lovingthe the Snapchat.
And

Alexander Coccia (01:11:10):
it's funny you bring that up, Cozy, because you
did throw out a little bit of aroast at the end of the last
podcast.
And Slayer4Mayor is back,dammit! Slayer4Mayor is here,
and they said, Aw, damn, Cozybrought up first edition badges.
I forgot about that.
I think everyone forgot aboutit, Cozy, and then you brought
it back up, and it's into thezeitgeist once again.

(01:11:31):
First edition badges, where arethey?

Cozy Snap (01:11:34):
Dude, this has nothing to do with that, but it
kind of does.
I'm going back to the overwatchThey just did this whole
spotlight thing and I waswatching this guy who One of the
bigger creators for them gotflown there and he kind of
recapped his trip and he saidthis was the best Trip that i've
had involved with overwatch andjust meeting the devs and the
team And they had like all thecreators in they all live stream
from there and like I would loveto see this like connection from

(01:11:55):
the creators to with the of thegame and create content creators
And bringing us all in to bemore together.
And to bring up questions likethat and have fun with it.
At this point, it's like thething under the bed.
And I think making light of someof that stuff.
We live in some of it.
It is great for it the game.
But Slayer Familiar, yes man.
I'm still waiting for my, Iremember I freaking got some

(01:12:16):
card.
I don't know which, I think itwas Gnoll at the time.
Because I was like, I want thefirst edition badge.
And I don't know, it's gone now.
But yes.
That, that was one of the thingsthat definitely died.

Alexander Coccia (01:12:27):
Oh, most certainly because we're glad
that you're here to bring it upat least once every couple
months.
Thank you so much for watchingeveryone, and guess what?
I have great news for you.
Snapchat will return next weekas it always does.
We won't miss a week, dammit,and we'll see you on the next
Snapchat episode.

Cozy Snap (01:12:42):
Happy new game mode week.
You guys have a good one.
Have a great one.
Until the next one, happysnapping.
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