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Cozy Snap (00:00):
What's going on guys?
And welcome back to yet anotherepisode of the Snapchat.
I'm joined as always by the one,the only Mr.
Alex Kocha.
And Alex, we've got ourselves agood episode Today.
We're gonna be talking aboutElixir, a card that I know we're
just both so pumped about.
I.
But listen, on your side of theSnapchat, we typically do like a
cards in review.
Today we're gonna be reacting toour best and worst takes for all
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the cards.
Not all of them, but a lot ofthe big ones that have come from
Alyth to Miss Marvel.
What did we say?
What was our takes on'em?
I think it's gonna be theultimate feedback session, man.
How you doing though?
Alexander Coccia (00:35):
I am doing
good.
I'm kind of nervous about thiswhole, like, let's watch the
cringe moments of the past.
First of all, seeing myself likea long time ago, like, I dunno
if you feel this, but like whenI watch old videos of myself,
I'm always like, oh my gosh.
I just, I, it's so weirdwatching old you do things and
say stuff on online, it's it'sreally bizarre.
I don't know if you can kind ofattest to that, but like, I'm
actually super nervous'causeI've had some some really, well,
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I was gonna say hilarious takes,but I don't know if it's funny.
Cozy Snap (01:00):
I know the ones I
missed, like right off the rip,
but you know, I'm actuallyinterested to see what we said
about like, some of the goodmeta cards.
Like to me, first we were doingthese, you know, we always do
these before they land.
So it's like looking back atbefore they were playable, but
then also what we know two yearsdown the line, no matter what,
we're gonna look stupid like.
That's what I can't wait for.
As far as like looking towardsthe past I kind of, I think.
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I don't feel it too much, butwhat I will say is that camera
presence is a skill likeanything, and you get better at
that over time.
And so there's nothing, like ifI go back and watch an old video
of me in like high school, Idon't care.
But watching old, old videos ofme is funny on YouTube because
yeah, camera presencedrastically changes.
I feel.
It's definitely like a musclethat you work out.
Alexander Coccia (01:44):
And it's funny
you say that because like some
of my older stuff, like my oldvariety content on my channel,
even some of my Doda stuff, Iwas so much more energetic.
It was just like kind of like mything at the time.
And like I was younger.
Same dude.
I had less children and like itwas just, I.
Yeah, I just had way more energyand I think that's one of the
things that really brought ustogether early on.
Like even early in my Snapcareer, I brought a lot of that
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early energy and now I'm alittle quieter.
I'm a little more run down, theymight say a little more
experienced.
And so I, it's a very differentvibe.
I feel.
Cozy Snap (02:15):
My main thing is that
I.
Ha.
So when I was recording, and Istill have this I don't have ac
we've talked about this in thehouse.
So back in the day I had no ideahow to work, like audio
settings, which people, there'ssomeone who says, I have a lot
of like mouth sounds.
I don't hear it on my end guys.
I'm sorry if I do, but I had anac I still do right next to my
setup and it was just blowingconstant air.
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And this one, I got used to belike an industrial one and so I
had to like essentially crank itwhere my mic would not pick up
anything that was like.
M you know, below a certainlevel.
So I was screaming into the miclike all the time, my first year
with the built-in hype that Ialready have.
And so like going back andwatching that, I'm legit yelling
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at the camera, not even knowingI am too.
'cause I would have the studioson back then.
Still do, I actually just didn'tcharge'em again.
So the.
They're, they're, they're,they're here.
They're just dead.
But go, that to me is funny'cause I'm just screaming all
the time on a constant basis.
And I built this whole studiojust to use green screen now on
like, all my stuff on arrivals.
But I think it's fun to go backin the past a little bit.
Alexander Coccia (03:17):
I always like
I, I often lay in bed and I'll
like, watch your rival stuff'cause I just wanna know what's
going on.
Like, I dunno.
So you've been doing some reallycool stuff there.
I like it.
And I like that you've beenactually doing some longer stuff
too, so I get to like lay backand just watch it like you did,
like a 44 minute video on likewho might be coming to.
Dude, that was a fun one.
Cozy Snap (03:33):
That was my favorite
video before.
Yeah, it was
Alexander Coccia (03:34):
cool just
sitting there back and it's.
It's funny'cause when my wifecame in the room, I actually
went back to the beginning and Iwas like, yo, watch how he walks
int VA style every time.
I'm like, I love, and I'm like,I, I wanted to find the one
where you go in with the Strangeportal, but I couldn't remember
what it was.
I was like, the strangeportal's.
My favorite, I do strange likeportals for the ads.
Oh, they're so good
Cozy Snap (03:51):
for the ads.
I do the Strange Portal and forthe for the, for the rest of it.
I do the, the TV guys, if findyourself a hype man like Alex
and you'll, you'll never have asad day in your life.
Yeah.
You know what's the best thingabout rivals is the pressure of
getting videos.
Like this game is just likeevery day I had to do a turnover
and it just didn't work with theproduction side of what I like
to put into content.
And I, it's been seven dayssince my last rivals video, so
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like I just don't have that rushanymore and I can put more
polished product out there,which is one of the things I
love right now.
Just having kid, you know, justbeing in chaos.
So, Alex, I need, I, I feel likeit's my civil right to, to.
Make, I don't know if s rightsthe word.
I'm gonna use it though.
It's important that I talk aboutsomething before we go into the
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Snapchat.
Okay, Alex?
I think I have not spent moretime on a game, especially a
solo campaign game thanExpedition 33 and I think
Expedition 33.
Might be on my top five bestgames of all time.
I have a hundred percent of thegame.
I've completed it.
Head to toe A to Z.
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Don't have time for it.
Don't know where I found time todo it, but I did it.
Guys, if you have not playedthis game, I don't care if you
like turn bass or not.
This was one of the best gamesI've ever played, man.
Have you got, I know you've beendabbling with it and you were
playing a little bit before wegot on here.
Where are you?
I feel like knowing you, youlike just passed the prologue.
Alexander Coccia (05:12):
I'm exactly
like eight hours and 30 minutes
in.
Oh, okay.
To give you an idea, when I goto log in,'cause I play on both
my Xbox in bed and I was on myPC now'cause we, we were just, I
was waiting for you to come andI was like, I'll just place some
expedition three three while Iwait for Cozy.
And so I was playing and itsaid, when I logged in it said
like eight minutes and 30seconds.
Or eight hours and 30 minutes.
So,
Cozy Snap (05:30):
so are you in like
the Flying Waters Living Waters
place or are you past that?
Alexander Coccia (05:35):
I don't want
to get, get any spoiler.
That's spoilers the most.
That's
Cozy Snap (05:38):
spoil, that's the
location.
Yeah, it's fine.
Alexander Coccia (05:40):
Yeah.
Yeah.
I'll say this in a way that onlysomeone who could know would
know.
I'm looking for a rock.
Cozy Snap (05:46):
Hmm.
Yes.
Great, great part of the story.
Actually there's lots
Alexander Coccia (05:51):
of lamps
everywhere.
Where I am, I, I got into a bossfight as you messaged me.
Cozy Snap (05:55):
Okay?
So here's the deal.
I, I just was not expected.
I think you can relate withthis.
Solo player games, they justdon't grasp me like they used
to.
Like even oblivion, remake.
I love it.
I played it a lot, but it it, itdidn't grab me like it used to.
And in old games like this,right back in the day, cottor,
all these, I would, I mean, Iwould sink in hundreds of hours
because I just don't have time.
And because my job is nowgaming, so I just like, I'm
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already in this office so much.
Right?
Like it's just tough to, to, tomake more time to do it.
Dude, this game, you know whatit is.
I realize that stories in agame.
It's not that I'm not even bigon stories and games, it's that
there are so many poorly writtengames out there because this
game had me gripped like I waswatching a movie.
The, the story is the number onebest thing about this game,
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hands down.
Alexander Coccia (06:40):
It's
incredible.
And I will say that the thingthat stands out about Expedition
33 is it feels like it's craftedwith a lot of love.
Like, it feels like thedevelopers and the writers, like
they put their heart and soulinto it.
Like the story, the story isn'tjust like.
They asked chat, GBD, how do,like, how does the hero has a
thousand faces work?
Or the hero's journey work?
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Yeah.
And like, just generate somelike cookie cutter plot.
This is someone's heart and soulsoul.
So good dude that's in it.
And then, and you can feel it inthe music too, boys acting OST
is amazing.
It's awesome.
It's
Cozy Snap (07:10):
going to win, like,
for sure.
I think it's gonna win game ofthe year, but if it doesn't,
it'll, it'll, it's gonna atleast win the soundtrack of the
year.
No, dude, it was chartingclassical charts like on the
billboard.
Like how insane is that?
Alexander Coccia (07:25):
It's
incredible.
It's, it's awesome.
And like, honestly, I'm lookingforward to finishing it.
Like, curiously, how long doesit take you to be like, because
it tells you the hours.
Cozy Snap (07:31):
So I'm, I was a
completionist, so I made sure I
did everything on it becausehonestly, it was the first game
in a long time.
I did not want to in, right.
So like, I was like, I, I couldapproach the ending and I was
like, no, wait, I'm gonna doeverything first.
So I think I'm 40, 40 to 45hours.
I think somewhere in there.
That's 45 hours I think is whereI'm at.
Yeah.
Alexander Coccia (07:48):
And that's, so
I still have a long way to go.
Ironically,
Cozy Snap (07:50):
you do.
And that's gonna be one of thethings that shock you.
Like it's kind of I, I got thisfeeling back in Twilight
Princess.
I remember doing something inthat game and being like, oh, I
think I beat it in Zelda.
And then a whole nother like, Iwas like one-fourth through the
game.
I was like, oh, what?
Okay.
I still have a lot, you know, along way to go.
You have seen, you know,nothing, John Snow is all I have
to say.
Like, there is so much ahead ofyou that there, there's things
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that will transpire that willcontinue to have you be like,
wait.
I do think this is like one ofthe best games I've ever played.
Alexander Coccia (08:17):
That's good to
know because I, I've absolutely
loved it and I do want to commitmore time to it, but sometimes I
only get like half hour at atime to play it.
Right.
I actually wanna make more timeto play more variety stuff and
like, just for like my own fun.
I know that there's an audienceout there that wants to see it
too.
Like for instance, like ElderElden Ring, night Reign is
coming out.
That's a three player co-op PVEthing for, for Elden Ring.
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And I think that's gonna bepretty cool.
So I wanna get that.
But yeah, there's, there's,there's so many games out right
now and, i've just been havingfun, dipping my toes back into
just a little bit of varietystuff.
For sure, man.
Cozy Snap (08:48):
So guys, that's your,
that is your message to go play
it, test it out.
I'm telling you, this is not anad or even thing, anything close
to it.
I feel like it's my duediligence to tell you guys how
good of a game it was, and I hadno expectations.
I did not think a top five 10game in my life was gonna be in
2025.
I thought those days were behindme, so.
It's good stuff.
Go check it out.
Awesome thing.
But we probably should talkabout it.
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And this is your cue on the timestamps that we are talking about
Marvel Snap.
So we're gonna talk about Elixirtoday.
Our bad, our good takes Buddy.
What do we talk about on yourside of the Snapchat?
Alexander Coccia (09:17):
Ozi, on my
side of the snapshot, we're
gonna be discussing Prodigy inReview Hat some time to play
Prodigy.
We're gonna let you know what wethink.
We're also gonna be talkingabout Snaps Must own cards.
The cards that you absolutelyhave to have in your collection
than, as always, our Snapchatmailbag.
Cozy Snap (09:32):
Well buddy, we had
Prodigy last week.
This week we have Elixir, a newway to destroy, but not really,
but kind of a new way tointeract with Destroy.
And he's a two cost, three powercard on Reveal.
One of your cards destroyed lastturn, gets revived at elixir's
location.
Now, no shock to anybody.
We were not too hot about thiscard when we looked at the
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general overview.
Alex, where are you right nowwith this card?
How are you feeling?
Gimme a star rating.
I think you gave him a one.
Alexander Coccia (09:59):
You know what
I am the highest I can go is
two, but I'm gonna stay withone.
Like, I just don't like thecard.
I've been trying to preparemyself for the, like, the
release on Tuesday.
Something that like you couldobviously attest to Cozy.
Is that like when a new I.
Cards coming out.
I try to heavily prep my decksfor Tuesday because a lot of
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people watch my videos and Iwanna make sure that the decks
I'm providing are good.
Like I want them to have goodwin rates.
I want them to be successful.
I want them to be well crafted.
And usually even when we comeinto these conversations, you
know that I have like decksready, decks in mind.
Sometimes you spur an idea ortwo.
Right?
But generally I'm prettyprepared with Elixir.
I have spent the last five days.
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Trying to pen and paper a numberof different decks and trying to
be a little innovative andeverything I've made, I hate,
like I look at it and I'm like,this deck is just a crappier
version of blank.
And so like, I'm not sure whythis is a series five card.
I'm not sure what they see in itfrom a perspective that it has
to be a two three, can't even belike a calling wing, two four
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range.
I just don't see it.
I wanna be wrong.
I hope someone cooks somethinginsane and I'm gonna continue
trying.
Like, I'm gonna try and come upwith something crazy, but as of
right now, cozy, like, I'm justnot feeling it, man.
Cozy Snap (11:17):
Yeah.
And I hate to be like DebbieDowner two weeks in a row.
We were not big on Prodigy.
We're not big on Elixir.
And I think I'm gonna join youat this point in time.
We know so much about the gameand interactions.
Interactions in the game, and,and really.
You know, net 50 decks that areexisting in Snap's ecosystem.
And then like, where can Elixirserve his greater purpose?
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And what the tough part abouthim is, is that what he's doing
is already done by other cardsin a more synergistic way and or
they're just better.
Like, it's almost like he cameout before it.
And the cards that are there inthe game right now are power
crept on him, right?
Like it's just a different wayto interact.
So.
First of all, the biggest thingis this guy is built hands down
for car card Kid Omega, which isgonna be his card to go with a
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hundred percent.
Very good card.
I need to pull up what it does.
I forgot.
But it that I could get up thetext here in a little bit, but
that card, you're gonna wannaelixir with him.
I think that's gonna be a verygood combo to have.
It's still, you know, we, we, wedon't love cards that rely on
other cards, you know, all thetime because then you're set up
to fail sometimes.
Let me pull it up.
Actually, I'm getting thispulled up right now guys, just
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'cause I wanna make sure youguys understand that if you do
wanna go for him, it's becauseof this.
Here we go.
So currently he's, this isprobably what he's gonna stay at
to, he's a two, two activate,destroy the next card.
You play this turn to gain itspower so that, that's why this
thing's kind of nice.
'cause then you can kind ofdestroy.
You have this card that coulddestroy at any point in time.
It gains the power to Kid Omega,and then also then you can
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revive it next turn.
So that's definitely gonna havesome nice synergy there.
But I agree at this currentmoment, I think I'm gonna give
him a one star.
I think I can go up to two whenKid, kid, kid Omega goes out
maybe even higher if there'ssome nice synergy there.
There's just a lot I don't likeabout it.
I think I would've liked him ata one cost on, on reveal.
'cause then you can maybe makehim work in a bit more cool
ways.
You know, I thought about doingBlack Panther.
You could always play him onfive and then maybe on six you
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could do something.
Whatever.
I don't, I, and you'd still haveto work a way to get some of
that worked out with Artola,whatever.
There's just being two is aclunky cost for this card and
what it wants to do, especiallyin base destroy decks.
That's not the question.
Right.
But then on top of it, even inthe niche destroy decks and the
different hybrids that we haveout there.
Yeah.
I, it just, he, he doesn'treally seem to have a lot of
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place in synergy there.
There's some cope we could talkabout, but he does seem like for
such a cool character too, justnot that great.
Alexander Coccia (13:40):
You absolutely
knocked outta the park.
Like what you just said wasexactly how I felt.
And on the note of Kid Omega, bythe way, I had that thought as
well.
And I didn't wanna rank thiscard or star this card based off
of a card that has only beendata mine and we don't know when
it's coming out.
Yeah, that's true because I feellike a, first of all, this
Elixir itself was an activatecard that was potentially
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better.
And then it got changed to annon-real and was worse.
It was a one cost activate,right?
So already this card got changedto be worse.
And then when you look at Kid,kid Omega, there's a chance that
it gets changed to be worse.
There's also a chance that itdoesn't come out when we think
it is.
Do you guys remember?
Dumb dumb, like dumb dumb dugand was supposed to come out.
He just didn't, he just didn'tcome out, Jim.
So I think, yeah, so I thinkyou're right.
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Like we can't rank this card ona.
Based off of Omega, whichobviously is synergistic, but
it's not in our hands yet.
And it's data mind.
Don't count those chickensbefore they hatch.
Cozy Snap (14:33):
And even if you do
count the chickens, your chicken
counter, this right here saysunreleased card releases June
12th.
Dude, that's a month away.
So even then you have a long wayto wait at a limited time event.
And so it looks like either way,whether he's coming, he's gonna
come in a while.
You know, I think it's alwaysimportant to look down the line
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on a card and seeing if it'sgonna be good, but at this
current moment, yeah.
Elixir, I just don't see it.
So like a couple synergy stuff.
I'm gonna stick with you at onestar.
I think a couple synergy stuffyou can talk about.
I think Venom to me has meprobably the most excited
because of the sense of like,you're able to you know, eat
something up and then you cankind of go do a, a combo from
there.
Maybe it's a net.
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The problem is a lot of the coolstuff are, are five cost tokens.
So like.
Black Panther, like I said, NIrod, it's like this cool stuff.
It's like, well, it's last turnand that is what I think I, I
wish it was the last card youdestroyed because last turn
screws this so many differentways.
Number one, it makes it whereit's, you know, it's might as
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well be an activate card becauseyou lose the turn six.
But then on top of that, youdon't even get to pick, let's
say carnage eats everything upin a lane.
You don't even get, get to pickwhat car gets revived.
So there's like multiple thingsthat are going on against it.
Alexander Coccia (15:49):
And it made me
wonder why they chose that text.
Like the text is specific enoughthat Glenn probably started with
one of your cards that gotdestroyed as revived here and
then changed it to the lastturn.
And it makes me wonder, what didthey find in testing?
Like what did they test?
That they determined that, oh,this needs the last turn
condition.
'cause that condition isactually insanely impactful to
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the viability of this card.
It's not necessary.
This, it's kind of unique to thescheme.
Is this the last, is this thefirst time we've seen this last
turn type thing?
I can't even think of anothercar.
Cozy Snap (16:23):
Don't even know
example.
I don't even know.
I don't even know if oh, I dofirestar, right?
I think fire, fire.
The car that never came out.
But I actually know guys whathappened to Firestar.
I do, I can't say what happenedunder NDA, but I do know.
Actually, no, buddy.
I don't even know.
Come on.
You can't do, I just happen tobe at the, no, I, I know I
happen to be at the right placeat the right time, but I cannot
talk on it.
Is NDA the extra does too, butit's also ND dare.
Alexander Coccia (16:46):
How dare you
do this to me.
I've wanted to talk about it
Cozy Snap (16:48):
forever, dude.
I know it's not as spicy as youthink, but, I mean kind of
actually it is actually kind ofspice.
It's actually spicy than youthink probably.
Anyway my guess is, here's myguess with why not.
They couldn't do that and I haveno idea, but maybe you could do
something with Nimrod Kid Omegacarnage where you, like, you
could bring back, you could likeactivate Kid Omega, hit the
Nimrod.
Then you carnage the mro, thenyou elixir that back.
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So you have like all these MROsgoing, or even reverse order of
that.
Maybe it's something like that.
Like that's the only thing Icould see.
But even then it's like, okay,there's still crazy stuff.
Card combo.
Yeah.
It's still like more, I knowlike there, but whatever.
I think that there's, there'sgonna be more instances of those
out there, but it's just funnyto me it's like he was a one
cost activate.
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I'm like I'm not, you know, someactivates are really good, but
I'm not crazy about it all thetime.
Now it's pretty much still anactivate because on reveal, you
know, you have to wait.
Like if it was a two costactivate that you could, you
know, revive, at least you canput'em down on curve, right?
But this, you have to playalways late and off curve,
essentially.
You know
Alexander Coccia (17:49):
what you gotta
do?
So you have like a blob sittingin the lo location ready to get
punched out.
Actually, better example,strange supreme, no Cosmo.
He's sitting there, he's justchin.
He's, you know, he's gonna chin,chin, chin, chin, shachi.
What you do is you play ghost iswhy I hear cope.
You play ghost to make sure youthrow initiative.
You allow that stronger to punchout your strange supreme.
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You play elixir, you bring himback.
For no net power gain, you justbring them back.
And, and victory.
I guess this is one of those,like with Elixir, you know, the
underpants gnomes we talkedabout.
Yes.
You know, get underpantsquestion mark profit.
That's what Elixir feels like.
Cozy Snap (18:27):
So I appreciate the
cope.
I, for me, I feel like, I feellike.
There's a couple of synergiesthat might end up working.
I think Nico, whenever you canpull that off, is actually kind
of cool.
Like you can end up doingsomething kind of decent with
Nico, especially if you get iton a favorable, you know, turn
that you could play her down onthree or four and then you could
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play something into that andthat, you know, net then you got
something at least interestinghappening.
Locations are kind of cool with'em too.
I mean, you can kind of getthings going, you know, there's
more locations than you thinkout there that end up working to
your favor.
So you've got that as well.
I'm deep.
I'm, I'm, I'm reaching, I'mreaching kind of deep, right?
Like there's not, there's not asmuch as you'd like to think
Killmonger could kind of work.
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You've got that a little bit.
That time.
Time, you know, that's, that'sabout what we got.
You know?
I.
Alexander Coccia (19:16):
And I do think
that misery is gonna find a
place too.
Like some of my early designswere like, okay, how can I do
like a misery mill deck where Imisery like a zemo, a gladiator?
And both those cards coming backis good.
Like you could do cable zemointo a, misery use elixir on the
next turn.
And both those cards arebeneficial to bring back.
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For the most part if you're, ifyou're attempting to mill right.
You can also consider the curveof debris into misery into
elixir.
And they just can't play.
Like the board is just rammedsolid, right?
So like I do think there's somemisery combinations and I,
that's where I think I'm gonnaultimately go because I think
it's.
It gets really koy from there,but but misery's already double
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dipping on the on reveals and solike, I don't know if L's even
necessary in those decks.
Cozy Snap (20:05):
It's funny too'cause
like, I don't know, obviously
Riss does the opponent's card,but you've got Riss that does
like the highest powered card ata two three as an activate.
I.
Oh, I know man.
Uncle Ben, you get two unclebins, two spidermans.
You can destroy.
Look at that.
You got that going.
There's some good synergy.
One costs on curve two with
Alexander Coccia (20:20):
with great
power comes great resurrection.
Cozy Snap (20:22):
Lot of cope, lot of
cope on that one.
So listen, those are the mainones.
I guess you could maybe maybe gowith like a Bucky Barnes, all of
it there.
There's stuff out there.
You got the Atum cope, you'vegot stuff that exists out there.
It just doesn't get us tooexcited, especially with the
honor reveal added two three andsadly.
We're gonna have to wait for KidOmega to get some things going
with this.
I mean, I, I think we can bothfeel pretty confident that
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there's not gonna be anythingthat just like blows our mind
with this deck.
Alexander Coccia (20:48):
No.
And you know what?
It's also one of thosesituations guys, where honestly,
if it does come out and someonelike cooks hard and there's
something really cool, I like tosee it.
Oh yeah.
'cause this is the car that likeyou're gonna get in.
Yeah.
You're gonna get incidentallysmoked by pulling elixir when
you're rolling your, yourspotlight cash, not Cassius,
your packs and stuff.
This is the problem though.
'cause now you have the packsand you got the filth of the
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packs.
The packs are getting stuff withlandmines, guys.
It's happening.
It's exactly what Cozy and Isaid was gonna happen.
So then you know, if you end upgetting it,'cause you end up
getting it, I want there to be agood deck to play with it, you
know what I mean?
And who knows?
We just might get there onTuesday.
Cozy Snap (21:24):
Well listen, speaking
of right Takes, wrong takes.
I have them in an order onsubjects down there below, but
we're gonna kind of just watchthem all together.
Alex and I have grabbed the mosthonestly, I don't even know if
they're infamous and I have noidea what we even said.
There's a couple like.
Like there's a couple that Iknow that we shot off bad and
wrong, but there's some, I haveno idea.
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Like the Loki season.
I don't know what our initialthoughts were.
Nika Meru, there's some coolcars to look back as Alex and I
kind of real back time and takea look at our best and worst car
takes in Marvel.
Snap.
Let's look at it.
Alright guys, so here we are.
We went all the way back tostart and I have not seen any of
this.
First of all, the old layout,man, just goaded status.
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But this is when the one andonly series drop kind of happens
back, or when they dropped abunch of cards all at once and
we had the introduction ofseries five, big bad series
four.
And Alex and I on this episodekind of cover all of'em.
We're not gonna listen to 30minutes worth of stuff, not even
close, but we're gonna jumparound and kind of hear our
takes right away.
Alex, though, no glasses man.
(22:26):
Look at you.
You look like a, you look like ayoung spring chicken here.
Alexander Coccia (22:30):
I look, it's
funny.
I feel like I look exactly thesame minus the glasses, which is
so funny.
You take the glasses off and soyou just look totally different.
And this is how I look every dayof my life.
I don't wear glasses anywhereelse.
I literally only wear glasses infront of my camera, which is so
strange, cozy.
You look like you're like sixyears younger.
Dude, I,
Cozy Snap (22:49):
first of all this is
I do this is I didn't get a
haircut for a very long time andI just kept telling myself, just
swoosh it to the side.
That's what, don't worry.
Just let
Alexander Coccia (22:57):
it go.
Yeah.
I do I look younger?
Oh, you look so much like, youlook disproportionately younger
than I do.
Like, I look almost the same.
You look like you're wayyounger.
Cozy Snap (23:08):
I think it's just the
camera.
I but yeah, probably, I, I dolook, I do look a lot younger
actually.
I do, now that I see my face,man, there's a lot of, this was
let's see, this was.
Man, this was a month into myfirst kid, so there's a lot of
life lived in between this man.
Alright, so let's see what wehave to say card by card here.
Alexander Coccia (23:30):
What are your
thoughts on Galactus?
So, Galactus is one of thosecards I think is perfect for
series five or pool five.
I'm gonna have a really hardtime with this, by the way.
Oh yeah.
Series versus, okay.
Cozy Snap (23:40):
That's right.
They, they, we, we just.
Somebody started call them poolsand we just all started call
calling them pools and then Ithink Bro, broad on an official
video.
Right.
Wasn't he like, by the way, it'sseries.
Alexander Coccia (23:53):
Yes.
I think they made a joke aboutit too.
We all called it like pool one,pool two, pool three for the
longest time all through beta.
And then I think when theyofficially announced series
four, they used the Word series.
And then everyone's like, wait,what?
And then I think Broad had triedto like verify that.
Yes, it's it's series now.
And what's crazy about this isthis is also prior to Glen.
(24:14):
Being there too, right?
Oh, oh yeah.
So like, I'm looking at this sixthree Galactus.
It's like, I don't know, it'sinteresting.
I wonder what Glen would'vereleased it at
Cozy Snap (24:20):
OG Galactus Honor
reveal if this is your only
card.
Destroy all other locations.
No other, no other stipulationsfor it.
Alright here, this
Alexander Coccia (24:28):
is Pool.
I saw your, I saw your YouTubecommunity poll.
Yeah.
I'm gonna throw the results onthe
Cozy Snap (24:32):
screen right now for
the viewers, guys.
76% said they like pool still.
It's like, it's like baby Yodaand Gro Gu.
Okay.
It's gro gu bud, but no onecalls it.
No one calls it Gro Gu.
I don't know.
It'll be tough to switch overbaby Yoda.
It'll be switched.
Yeah, I know.
You're right.
It'll be, it'll be tough.
Alexander Coccia (24:48):
Is that like,
it's an incredible effect and
with an amazing animation.
That is absolutely jaw droppingwhen it lands.
But it's not an overpoweredcard.
If anything, if this is like amainstay in your deck, you are
like, you're, you're playing adangerous game.
'cause Galactus is so easy tojust throw a game with.
He's a three power buddy.
(25:10):
He got hugely buffed before hebecame a menace.
He was still pretty good though.
This was OG Glock.
He
Cozy Snap (25:15):
was still pretty good
here, dude.
Dude, they, he was definitelystill good here.
This was, I dunno if he wasgood.
I'm trying to remember, bro, youthe only stipulation.
Someone could do everything allgame correctly, but if they
didn't play in a location, youcould win.
Alexander Coccia (25:30):
Because, yeah,
I guess because you would set up
everything else so that like youwould just munch all the other
locations, bring over thewolverine, et cetera.
Yeah, I remember that.
I remember those days Maybe.
Maybe.
I feel like he got buffedthough.
Where do you have this guy?
I am so unsure.
I have him at one and at six atthe same time, and I don't know
what to do because it's like, Ifeel like.
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Super scroll can be used togrief you so effectively.
Like if I see super scroll outthere and it becomes meta.
But that's the thing, like youcan't really rely on your
opponent having a ultra rarecard.
So like, you can't like playyour, that's the thing You'll
never know.
You'll never know.
Yeah.
That's the thing.
It'll always be a surprise whenit comes out on the board.
Right.
So like you can't be like, I'mgonna put prox in just to mess
'em up.
Right?
Yeah.
Like you can't do that with typefour.
(26:14):
You can't reliably know unless,I mean, there's a location that
like.
I can't remember what the planetthey're from.
They're What about you?
What's you even talking about?
Cozy Snap (26:24):
You, you're kind of
right though.
You were kind of right here.
You said it's either a one or asix.
I don't know why we're doing asix point scale for these.
I guess we were or do we, Ithink we're
Alexander Coccia (26:32):
ranking them
orders one to six.
Oh, okay.
Okay.
Six.
Okay.
Cozy Snap (26:35):
So you said it's
either the best or the worst
card.
That was actually pretty right.
Man.
That was not bad.
I'm actually proud of you forthat one.
Thank you.
I thought I thought you weregonna get, oh, dude.
Sherry, do you feel like we gaveSherry a good.
A good rating.
Alexander Coccia (26:47):
I, I feel like
we had to.
Sheri was so good, so fast, andI do remember you really pumping
Sheri, like Sherry's the bestcard in
Cozy Snap (26:55):
Snap.
Yeah, I did.
But cool.
That brings us to what I thinkis the best card.
Without question, I think.
I think Sheri's the number one.
I mean, this isn't even aquestion, but this was not the
common take.
I'm telling you people were nottoo, too crazy on her.
They were like, oh, it seemsokay, but it's only one car,
dude.
Old cheery guys used to be ableto play the double power
anywhere on the board.
That's so stupid.
(27:16):
They, that's so good.
How did, how did we not knowthat was be, I'm a little
nervous about her now.
Yeah, yeah.
There's Cosmo, but like, I'msorry.
Like people threw out the wordCosmo too much.
Like, dude, you can work aroundCosmo on reveal, double the
power for your next card.
First of all, going back to Mr.
Negative, this is the card Iwanted to bring up for Galactus.
I think she could completelychange the game there.
Alexander Coccia (27:37):
But also,
dude, just actually that's a
good point because you couldsurey into Galactus double its
power and it didn't matter whatlocation you played on, right?
Cozy Snap (27:44):
Yeah.
She was a two four, right?
So with negative, I guess youwould have a two four into a
Galactus.
That was like a three six.
I was thinking that was an awfultake.
But we actually did see Sureyand Mr.
Negative decks.
You remember like kind of theWakanda negative deck we saw.
I do
Alexander Coccia (27:57):
remember.
Yeah.
And it's also worth noting thatlike you were so correct here.
'cause Sheri dominated the metafor like four months.
Like they didn't know what to doabout Sheri for a long time.
And then Zbu came out and it wasaround that time they tried to
go full circle and, and bringSheri in.
Right.
This, it dominated the, thewhole December two February
range of time during thatlaunch.
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I think until like.
Cozy Snap (28:18):
I think it took till
like, yeah, March until they,
they, they did anything abouther.
I think it was even later thanthat potentially.
Alright, we're gonna skip bass.
We're gonna go to Thanos.
This one, bro.
I know.
I think we all just said he wasgonna be a fun card.
I think so, right?
I think I was kind of high onhim, but I also feel like maybe
not here.
I think this was too, man, Ilook like a deer in the
headlights on every singlefreeze frame.
Alexander Coccia (28:38):
I feel like.
I look like I'm sleeping or I'mgoing in for the kiss.
I'm not sure what I'm doing.
Actual power is so weak becausetheir effect is so strong, like
a mystique, their power.
So suddenly make talking abouthere,
Cozy Snap (28:50):
let's wait for
hundred percent.
That's a good card.
A hundred percent.
Man.
I was talking about Patriottoday on the video and, and then
like, I don't care if Patriotwas zero.
I mean, you get what?
You get what you need.
Like, you know, like the onecost is just a little bonus.
So he'll be fun.
And then we end on man, we endon Thanos, which I think we can
all agree is the most high hype.
You know, like, it's freakingYeah, it's Thanos man.
Thanos is my, my favoritevillain, man of all time.
I love him.
(29:10):
Now I think a lot of people areinstantly discounting him
because of the infinity.
You look like you're.
Alexander Coccia (29:18):
I probably am.
I got the moon in thebackground.
My old setup, I'm trying to staywith you.
Never looked up.
I also noticed that like mymonitors, I have'em now set up
so that like I can, it lookslike when I'm looking at you
speaking, I'm actually lookingin your general direction
before.
I didn't have that and so like,I'm clearly looking at you, but
like my eye level's down andthen I used to look out to like
(29:40):
my door to make it look like Iwas looking at you and I would
just listen to what you'resaying and then try to like cue
myself.
It's so funny, like we're somuch more awkward.
Cozy Snap (29:49):
No, this is so funny,
man.
This is only four episodes in.
To be fair, man, we only fourweeks in the snapshot.
We are now 200 and or not 200.
We're a hundred something weeksto do it now.
Stones, and we don't have gooddraw mechanics at the moment.
Dude, I don't know.
I think there's gonna be somefun to be made around him.
I think at the moment hepresents himself as the, the
weakest, per se, or, you know,the bottom of the, of the, of
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the more rare cards.
But the stones man.
Alexander Coccia (30:16):
Yeah, the
stones wild.
Have you seen
Cozy Snap (30:17):
these ability, okay,
so I was low on Thanos as a car,
but the stones we like more.
Okay.
That made more sense.
They're insane.
Like the mind stone is draw twostones, so there you go.
Like, you know, it's, yeah, it'sgonna be a bit more RNG for
sure.
We're so fixated on like thedilution of the, I'm definitely
excited.
What are your thoughts onThanos?
Alexander Coccia (30:34):
Again, it's a
card that on the surface doesn't
look like it's broken.
But I could be wrong.
This is like, there's no way tomake an accurate assessment
without playing this, right?
Like there's no way withoutplaying it that you make an
accurate assessment.
Of course, you dilute your deckwith the stones, right?
But the stones themselves havethe draw based mechanic.
Every one of them draws a card.
Then you have,
Cozy Snap (30:51):
this card was busted.
Man, this car was so busted.
Yeah, this is so
Alexander Coccia (30:54):
stupid.
Space stone and this.
Space, stone and of itself iswhat made the lock jaw variation
so good.
'cause you could repeatedly openspace.
Yeah.
Even with the visions and stufflike that, it wasn't until that
that was discovered that Thanosactually went off.
Cozy Snap (31:09):
Yeah.
So this was November 27th.
Lock jaw was not played tilllike mid-January.
Alexander Coccia (31:15):
Yeah, it took,
yeah, two months.
Thanos sat like languishing andnothing really changed other
than, oh, someone put lockjawThanos together and then crushed
it.
Cozy Snap (31:23):
Alright, so we're
gonna fast forward here and we
are now going to Loki's season,which I'm actually pretty amped
now.
I saw on this, there's athumbnail of there is, I think
Mobius was like offered in thestore before he came out or
something like that.
I, it was like the first timethey, Avery did something like
that.
Yeah.
Alexander Coccia (31:40):
I think what
happened was Mobius came out and
he was in a gold bundle, like aweek and a half or two weeks
after his release.
Ah.
Which made it like I, I don'tremember.
It was something about a goldbundle and, and Mobius.
And Mobius.
And he was also broken at thetime.
He got nerfed super fast, right?
Cozy Snap (31:58):
Yeah.
I do know this.
The only thing I know aboutgoing into the Lowkey
conversation is that we wereimmensely hype about this
season.
We thought this was gonna belike the best season ever.
So I know we're gonna go in at agood number.
I just wanna know what we.
Say about it, but I'm prettysure we were losing it on all of
these hours about from when wepost this Loki is coming to
Marvel.
Snap, Alex, and good God.
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This is gonna be a funconversation to have.
I mean, just talking about aniconic character coming to the
game.
Loki is up there next to likeGene Gray.
We haven't gotten a lot of justsuper iconic season pass
highlight cards, silver Surferand it rings a bell as well.
He's a three cost, five powercard with the ability on reveal.
Replace your hand with cardsfrom your opponent's starting
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deck and give them negative onecost.
I wanna highlight a couplethings.
Mm-hmm.
Replace means if you have carsin your hand.
They'll be swapped out withcards in their starting deck.
And then also big time thing tohighlight here, negative one
cost.
And I think Alex, no minimum, Ithink that's a big thing to
highlight.
Not like Quinjet, not like theseother cards, bro.
(33:03):
I forgot.
There's no minimum too.
Oh my gosh.
Alexander Coccia (33:06):
How was this?
We went to zero.
That's insane.
And like looking at this rightnow, knowing what we know.
With the experience that wehave.
This card is so unbelievable.
Three five.
Three five.
I like it's stupid.
Crazy.
And you know what, I know thatlike we were excited for it, but
I think, I think that we werelike expecting to be a fun card,
not a competitive card.
(33:27):
This was a soul crushing metadominator three five.
It's crazy.
Cozy Snap (33:31):
So crazy.
Like this is, I feel like.
They like Disney must havereached out and been like,
we're, we're launching the newLoki season.
We need'em to be op.
I, there's nothing else.
Let's see what we said about'em.
You can make one cost, zerocost, and that's gonna be huge.
Initial thoughts on Loki.
Alexander Coccia (33:50):
My initial
thoughts are super positive.
I am really looking forward tothis card.
I, I love the design of itbecause of how disruptive it is.
I think the scouting element,the mischief side of it, I think
they capture the lore, theycapture the flavor of what Loki
is.
I think that it has thepotential to be very, very
powerful for the exact reasonthat you just mentioned.
Let's go Alex.
You can bring cards down to zerocost.
(34:11):
Yes.
And that's huge.
That's huge.
'cause we know that's animmensely powerful effect.
That's the whole reason whyQuinjet got Nerf.
That, that it's huge.
Right?
Whether or not he gets played onthree though, it's funny how
like I've been playing with likeDex for and stuff like that and
it's like, you know what?
It's interesting bro.
You look.
10 years younger here.
Bt dumb.
I was gonna say, why do I lookso good here?
Like, I look legit good.
Like, what's going on?
I show my wife this pic so sheremembers what it, what it was
(34:34):
like for me to actually be arelatively attractive human
being.
Why, why do I look so good inthis shot?
Cozy Snap (34:39):
I don't know.
But I also, why are we streamingfrom two Nokia sevens like, bro,
our, our quality looks prettybad, but you do, you look you
look, you look like a soccerplayer.
Alexander Coccia (34:48):
Buddy.
I, I, I used to be a soccerplayer.
Now I can't even run.
I tried to run to exercise and Ilike hurt my knees'cause I'm
just like too heavy now.
That's a whole otherconversation.
Cozy Snap (34:57):
I know why I got more
dude, I've been running more by
the way.
I'm on five days in a row.
I'm not doing great.
Oh my gosh.
But I'm on five days.
My, my Achilles want to die.
I know why I get haircuts allthe time, man.
It was'cause I was letting itfly for like months and I think
I, I think I just got the, thepicture to go back and then you
started making fun of me.
So maybe I'll stop gettinghaircuts again.
Alexander Coccia (35:16):
I miss my
little veta on the shelf.
Look at him.
Look.
And he's with a little rabid.
That's a Princess Peach rabid.
So do you replace him after youplace him like a Nick Fury with
Sabu?
Or like what do you actually dothere?
Right.
I think it's interesting from apiloting perspective, but from a
card perspective, I think he hasthe potential to be absolutely
wild.
And wild is the key word that Igot in, man.
(35:37):
I That's on the rightdescriptor.
You did?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Cozy Snap (35:39):
So it's man.
I kind of alluded to it at theintro.
This is the new Archetype month.
We'll talk about the other cars,but there's a lot of cards
coming out that create new styleof play for Marvel Snap in a
season.
It typically is gonna becomplimented, right?
We're gonna see compliments andyou know, July was actually
pretty good in creating some newstuff with Legion and whatnot,
but with this season we'rehaving so many cards that just
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create a new way to play and,and Loki.
It is gonna be fun.
Number one, I think like justseason pass card fun.
Kinda like Hit Monkey.
That Hit Monkey was just like afun card too.
Yo, I forgot about Hit Monkey.
That card was busted when itcame out.
It was, it was actually insanecheckbox there.
Right?
Number two chaotic, which isperfect for the card in a new
way to play.
I, I think, what do I havebetter camera presence than I do
(36:22):
now?
Like what?
This is like, this was like thebest, this was the peak time of
our lives, bro.
This is before we, we gotdrained to our core.
Alexander Coccia (36:30):
I know like
we're actually, we got some
energy in this episode.
I might actually go back andwash this one just to feel
something.
Cozy Snap (36:35):
Thinks is he's gonna
be the worst that he'll be to
start this season becauseeverybody's gonna wanna be
playing him and you'll beswapping cards and crazy.
And then, bro, do you rememberthat first week of Loki coming
out?
How, how like people were like,I'm gonna quit Snap.
Like it was like, it was, it wasthe fastest people knew
something was broken within likeminutes of him coming out.
Alexander Coccia (36:56):
It's actually
crazy how much I missed this
card and not'cause like, I getit.
It was super cringey and likeway, way too powerful.
But like at least right now as aone drop, he feels playable.
A one drop girl I used to love,used to love watching the entire
hand just shift.
It was such a cool effect,especially when you got like a
really nice split on'em.
(37:16):
I do miss this Loki.
I really wish they, they couldbring this card back in some
way.
Cozy Snap (37:20):
We're gonna go and
fast forward to Lyth bro
original Lyth with the Lokiseason, man.
And you know, after the Destroyseason, we're gonna get to that.
But I'm like, all right, pumpthe brakes.
How excited am I really aboutthis season?
What do I actually rate thesecards?
I wanna challenge us today trulylooking at these cards.
Oh, seeing are they gonna.
(37:41):
Did I?
Did we rate them all?
No.
It'd be well worth it.
Give him a one through five staron just the card and then break.
Was this the first time we didone through fives?
Was this the first time we didstars?
I know down why we like themnow.
We of course have to start out.
We'll kind of go in the order ofrelease okay's.
It's gonna be first andforemost.
Alyth, Alex and Alyth guys is asix five.
(38:01):
Six five.
That honor reveal destroy allenemy cards.
Played here, this turn,including unrevealed,
Alexander Coccia (38:09):
including un.
It's so disgusting.
Stupid.
Like how do we not look at thiscard and be like, please don't
release this,
Cozy Snap (38:15):
because we had Loki
as the shield before this.
I love how it was so busted thatLoki took the bullet for Lyth
first, but then like this wasjust as bad.
Alexander Coccia (38:26):
I remember
seeing this card and being like,
I actually,'cause I hadn'twatched the Loki season yet,
which I have, and I actuallythink that it's a great series.
I had no idea what the hell thiswas.
I was like, what is this thing?
Is it like a star?
Is it a cloud?
Is it a dragon?
Like I, I had no idea what Alythactually was, so forgive me, but
I didn't know it was a cloud.
Cozy Snap (38:46):
Cards.
Now, I think this is a card thatis, people are losing their
marbles for this man.
I think people think this isgonna be nutty, crazy uhoh.
And honestly, I don't know ifthis is gonna be even remotely
the most impactful on the month.
I think it'll be a good card.
I think it'll be superpolarizing.
Alex?
Yep.
I think I nailed that.
I honestly think I did because Ithink Mobius was by far one of
(39:08):
the worst cards to come out.
That was horrible.
And then Loki beat that too.
I think
Alexander Coccia (39:13):
it, your
statement started off with you.
I thought you were gonna belike, this card is like a two
and then you like, you broughtit back.
Be like, I think there's toomany bangers this month is what
you said, which was correct.
Yeah, at first, first I waslike, Bri,
Cozy Snap (39:24):
I was like, what am
about, what am I about to say
here?
Awesome, man.
You're hitting that four 20 onthis shot.
No, no question about it.
Alexander Coccia (39:29):
Oh yeah,
buddy.
You know my initial thoughts forthat.
This card is completely earthshattering.
Like I was part of the hype.
I'm like, this card's gonna beinsane.
And even at the six costs, I wasexcited about it.
Right now at five costs.
Cozy Snap (39:41):
Wait, it was a five
cost.
Life was a five cost, no, itdidn't come out as a five cost,
but it was a five cost In data
Alexander Coccia (39:47):
minds.
We can't get too hyped up aboutthings every once in a while.
Be more grounded, make, makedeeper analysis of these cards.
I think that's, that, that'svaluable.
Right?
It just does something that's sounique in Marvel Snap.
It's the specific attack on theunrevealed cards.
Cozy for me that like that's,that's the most powerful thing
because any on reveal.
Yeah.
I mean.
Cozy Snap (40:08):
Alex just home
knocked outta the
Alexander Coccia (40:10):
park man.
Getting a
Cozy Snap (40:11):
homer, man.
I love to see it.
We'll skip Mobius.
Let's go.
'cause we ki I think we both arevery high.
I think he was like the mosthyped that we were, we're gonna
go to voa, which I think wasconsidered the worst of the
month
Alexander Coccia (40:22):
being towards
Cozy Snap (40:23):
destroy.
So that just takes us toprobably the card that I'm
probably most excited to talkabout, and that is going to be
Rvo.
Mobius is close, but Rvo RvoRvo, first of all, she is gonna
be probably on the bestspotlight week in my eyes,
especially if you don't havesome of the cards.
She's with Zbu.
I forget the other one.
I think Gene Gray.
Right?
Like just a really cool week I,your graphics.
Yeah, bro.
And by the way, probe the amountof time I used to spend on ev
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every, every little thing.
Speaking of that, I'm, I'mfinally seeing people and I wake
up on Gene Gray.
I love it, man.
I love to see it a bit more.
There
Alexander Coccia (40:53):
it is.
You accused me of making up thatyou love Gene Gray.
Look at that.
Right outta your mouth.
You see that?
Yeah, I did.
Busted.
Cool.
Cozy Snap (40:59):
Damn dude, you're
right.
I liked Jean.
I think, I think I was sofascinated with her as a
character that I love in thelore that I just accepted that I
was gonna love her in the.
In the game and she was onlylike two, I think she was about
two months released from thisbecause yeah, she was not the
season pass card Phoenix forcewas, which is so weird.
Ongoing effect.
Your cards with one or lesspower cost one less.
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She does have the minimum one onher side.
Alex meant this is the Arche.
This is a archetype deck.
Building card.
Alex.
Initial thoughts.
Alexander Coccia (41:31):
My initial
thoughts is that like the scope
of this card is kind ofsurprisingly wide.
At first glance you're like, ah,it's a three, three that, okay,
whatever the effect's strong,but how strong is it really?
Then I started like kind ofpaying attention to all the
cards that it would impact andobviously there's like the
Ironman, which is still notable'cause Ironman can get, you
know, a turn four Ironman turnedfive Zola.
That's pretty damn good.
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Dare I?
Kinda combo's that, what am Italking?
Who the hell's doing that I
Cozy Snap (41:56):
was following you
for?
I was like, alright, here we go.
And then the Zola, that, thatone really,
Alexander Coccia (42:03):
is that a
cook?
Are we just not, are we notdoing that?
Like I, or is that just theworst combo imaginable?
Like what kind of power do youhave on the board?
Good job, Alex.
You did it.
Good cook there,
Cozy Snap (42:13):
bud.
I think you were low on too.
I'm actually surprised, but I,you know what though?
You progressively got morestrict.
Like you used to kind of likesay everything was gonna be good
all the time.
And then I remember you startedgetting like some more bangers
in there.
You started like.
Get some heat in the kitchen,
Alexander Coccia (42:27):
dialing it in.
If I say even turn six, youmight be able to play some zoo
cards and add a lot of power onthe board.
What is this cook?
The hell is that?
Talking about iron zola's Zoo.
The worst deck ever.
Turn four.
So turn three R.
Turn four, iron man.
Turn five Zola.
Turn six.
Squirrel.
Girls, what I'm suggesting, Ihave a deck with Shauna, by the
way.
I've kind of penciled out on aturn six kind of zoo.
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It just keeps getting worse.
This is the worst deck of alltime.
You need to build this thing,dude.
You need to build it.
But but like there's so manyinteresting effects that you can
pull off with these cards.
And it's funny'cause like I kindof realized cozy and tell me if
you agree, but some of the mostpowerful cards in Marvel Snap
have low powers.
Like what I mean is like theiron reveal effects or their
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effects are so strong thatthat's compensated the sky's
blue, Alex, by reducing theirpower.
They're actual onboard power.
So when you reduce the cost,suddenly again, cost reduction
being incredible, you are ableto pull off some insane combos
with incredible power potential.
So I'm actually kind of excitedabout av.
Cozy Snap (43:30):
Yeah.
And I feel like she's gonna playa lot like Loki does.
Because of what she does.
You can play her on four.
You could play her off curve alittle bit and still get that
bonus going into five and six.
Like you could get enoughsnowball.
Didn't she go down to a two,like, just like weeks after this
or even like a week after?
Alexander Coccia (43:46):
I think she
sat at three for a while.
I think she lied.
Oh, dude.
For quite a bit.
Think she went to
Cozy Snap (43:50):
two?
No.
Look at this man.
Watch this.
Look at this.
Look at this.
I bet
Alexander Coccia (43:54):
you it was, it
was two months.
No, no, no.
Earlier than two months.
I'm gonna say it
Cozy Snap (43:57):
was less than a, it
was I'm gonna say it was a
month.
Alexander Coccia (44:00):
So the over
under is two months.
If it's under two months, cozywins.
I win for sure.
This is like
Cozy Snap (44:03):
the super smash bed.
I'm definitely gonna win this.
So she came out in Nov?
Yeah.
So it was about a month.
In 10 days.
Alexander Coccia (44:10):
Damn it.
Cozy Snap (44:11):
Let's see what we had
to say about Miss Marvel.
Who guys, please pay attentionto what she did at launch Miss
Marvel season, our new seasonpass card, Alex.
We've got the Marvel moviecoming out in theaters.
That's probably why the theme ofit has come out.
Miss Marvel is a forecast fivepower card with an ongoing
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ability adjacent locations whereyour cards have unique costs at
plus five power.
So four 15.
Alexander Coccia (44:41):
Literally a
four 15.
It was so insanely easy to getthis effect off.
Like you could literally playone doom, miss Marvel four, and
then play a what, what a doo.
What's the big, what's the bigwhale?
The Whale
Cozy Snap (44:53):
Nemo?
No,
Alexander Coccia (44:55):
no other
whale.
Oh.
Or go.
Oh my gosh.
Orca.
That's right.
The orca.
You could play orca on one ofthe, and like it would go to
like 21 power at the time.
Like just one card would sendone location rocketing to like
21 power.
Cozy Snap (45:09):
Do we have fog
machines in our offices, bro?
Like what?
What's with these?
There's like this coat to whiteover us.
Alexander Coccia (45:16):
I have no
idea.
It does look at, it does havelike this fog effect.
Cozy Snap (45:19):
Alright.
Now really simply to break thatdown, right guys, if you have
two, two costs on the left lane,that lane does not get the plus
five power.
If somebody plays you know, a, agreen goblin over there and you
already had your self authoritydoes not get plus five power.
With that being said, Alex,we've got a lot to break down
with her and the potential ofher.
What
Alexander Coccia (45:37):
are your early
thoughts?
Honestly, I like the design.
I think it's cool.
Like the, the idea of havingthese unique card costs and
it's, I like when game, the gamemakes these macro considerations
important.
That's exactly what we'retalking about with werewolf by
night.
Like it's really cool when youhave to really think.
Couple turns ahead as to howyou're gonna be placing your
cards and that's cool.
But my also first impression isthis seems like an incredibly
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restrictive card that might besurprisingly difficult to play.
'cause Marvel Snap is nevergonna give you an ideal board.
State is never gonna give youthe ideal hand.
And I'm just like, man, I dunnoif we're gonna talk stars.
But I'm not hot on this card.
No way.
Okay.
What's your, no.
Okay.
What's your star rating?
Don't hot on it before you.
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You think this is gonna bestrong?
Cozy Snap (46:21):
Yeah.
Yeah.
I'll tell you why.
Wait, what's your star rating?
Alexander Coccia (46:24):
No, I knew
this was coming, but this is So
this is, this is the worst.
This is the worst.
The double down of the
Cozy Snap (46:30):
you.
The double down of like youthink this is actually gonna be
strong.
Wait, I want to hear,
Alexander Coccia (46:35):
I gotta
Cozy Snap (46:35):
know.
Oh,
Alexander Coccia (46:36):
you're gonna
put me on the spot.
I'm leaning towards like a twoBlack Knight.
So bad, dude.
I'm so wrong, dude.
This is by far the biggest missof my career.
This is no question.
Nah bro.
I can't.
Cozy Snap (46:51):
I can't believe I
have some bad ones.
I had like Grand Master.
We're not gonna watch that one.
I gave a five, which was not, Igave'em a five.
So, to be fair, that was anawful card too.
Alexander Coccia (47:00):
It okay.
Maybe slightly better than BlackKnight, but I think Okay, I'll,
okay.
Two, three range is where I'mat.
Look at me, I'm, you're thatshocked.
Yeah.
It's an ongoing card.
Right.
Look how many ongoing counteringeffects we have.
Yep.
It, it requires, it's, it'sgonna be maximized in the
center.
Right.
Naturally.
It's like the Mr.
Fantastic situation.
Yep.
Having unique costs in eachlocation is hard.
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Locations don't always let youplay.
Like I was so scared of like theeffect not being able to get
pulled off.
I was so scared.
I was scared that every singlegame was just gonna be the
Savage Lands, double raptorsevery single time.
Yeah.
It was just shadow land
Cozy Snap (47:36):
everywhere.
Yeah, yeah.
Whatever the hell you want.
Okay.
Alexander Coccia (47:38):
Right.
Yeah, yeah.
No, I'm here for it.
Cozy Snap (47:39):
Yeah, yeah, yeah,
yeah.
I like that.
You're not crazy.
There's so many things that arelike just, hey, to say I look
young.
My old one, I think you looklike a different man than this
guy I'm looking at right now.
Just say, just say it.
Look.
Happy
Alexander Coccia (47:55):
e energetic
man.
I've lost energy.
Like I've gotten older and I'vejust been, I've been chipped
away at, man, I'm sorry.
I recognize this, this wholeepisode.
Just me laughing, bro.
Hey, card.
You want to be good, slap like,there's way, so there's like so
many red flags here, right?
Cozy Snap (48:11):
Yes.
Okay, so here's my, my break.
Oh dude, I love this.
I was expecting you just to belike, yeah, yeah.
You know, I need, here's thegreat part, right?
My thoughts on this is it's thesame as the you know, the
Deadpool that you want to get upto, A million power, whatever it
might be.
Let's look at Iron Lad who's afour six.
If he scans a rock, he's a foursix.
Okay.
It's like, okay, well that's abummer.
You whiffed on that and it's upto random chance.
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Miss Marvel is a four 15.
If it does work out, if it doeswork out, and there's a lot of
decks where I think she can fitin there.
A four 15 is, is stupid out.
I mean, that's just stupidvalue.
We can both agree.
Three 15 with z.
Alexander Coccia (48:47):
I had to throw
in this and I'm like, no.
Cozy card sucks.
Yeah, right.
Four 15, not good enough.
Cozy Snap (48:52):
But let's see what we
had to say about inferior
huling.
Now, I said it a bit as a jokeat the time when we were talking
about the new cards coming out,but I gave this guy my five
star.
I gave this guy my favoritecard, mainly because of just
what I'm interested in, right?
He gives me copycat vibes insome ways.
Let's break down the synergies,and then me and you we're gonna
go through all the six costcards.
And then kind of rank'em fromthere.
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So if you guys don't knowEmperor Huling here is a six
cost, 11 power card, man.
Five.
Did I say five because it's likesomething that I like to play or
did I at the start of the game?
I think I just said I was jokingtowards the beginning, but I, I
clearly gave this copy, the textof a random six cost card.
No, but I remember, dude,'causethis is only eight months ago.
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Once we get to the, the, thetearless part.
Bro, I was coping hard.
Like you kept saying like,there's so many misses.
I'm like, yeah, but there's somany hits.
This is, this is gonna be a,this is gonna be, bro.
I spent like seven hours on anintro saying I was deadass wrong
because of how bad I whiffedthis within the game.
So there's a lot of opinions outon this guy.
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And with a big September, as Ikeep saying, around the corner,
you say people are gonna wannasave up their tokens.
He comes with Nimrod andCannonball.
Let's start there.
Pretty lackluster.
Pretty lackluster of spotlightweek if I say so myself.
Alexander Coccia (50:09):
Yeah, I mean,
cannonballs been, I look so
disheveled.
This is dad.
Alex, like, look at me.
Look at this dude.
Why'd you have to freeze freehere?
This is awful.
This is, stop it.
Play it completely irrelevant.
Since the Nerf, I think this isdefinitely a candidate for
getting like the Nerf revertedcanonball with the change to
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Professor X has been a shell ofits former self, even with junk
being pretty decent with the therelease of Keith Bishop.
And, you know, we're seeing alot more synergies with with
junk.
I'm talking about cannonballsnot making those decks.
And it was one of those cardsthat the negative powered Nerf
really, really impacted itsviability.
So I think that actually, did itlook like you just came back
from survivors?
I'd be surprised if while, youknow, at the next OTA, which I
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think is timed for that releaseweek, ask the question.
I'm not sure.
I gotta keep track of it, but itwouldn't surprise me if.
That card got buffed ifCannonball got buffed.
As for Nimrod, I'm honestly, I,I like Nimrod.
I think he's okay.
I've been playing a lot ofPhoenix Ball.
Don't ask me why.
And Nimrod's a big part of thatpackage and he's surprisingly
effective.
Cozy Snap (51:08):
He needs a card.
He's definitely a card.
I think you always gotta lookahead with, with snap.
And I feel like if you're all inon Scream, which is the, gonna
be a new style of deck where youforced to move your opponent's
cards and then that will gain insteal power.
If you're going for scream andyou don't have Cannonball, this
is gonna be your opportunity toget Cannonball.
At least say, hit that.
So just for you guys, littleffy, I You are wrong.
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Cannonball.
You're gonna go to that Ling asa, as a, you know, constellation
prize.
There.
Not a bad one at that.
Let's talk about it.
What is your initial star ratinghere on the whole clean.
This.
Alexander Coccia (51:42):
So my initial
star rating is gonna be a three
stars.
Ooh, okay.
How bad.
I do think that he's like, he'swell staed, which really
minimizes the downward.
That's good.
That was good.
That was a good pick.
My major concern with hulking isthat it's like, okay, he, he can
be a Dr.
Doom, but.
Why usually, why don't you justplay Dr.
Doom or like the, the very sinthat literally sums it up like
that, that was,
Cozy Snap (52:02):
that was the best
take you could have had on that.
'cause I was so convinced and Istill think he's not bad.
What, what is he now, what'syour start writing on him like
now?
Alexander Coccia (52:10):
Dude, I
haven't played him for Huley in
a while.
I think he snuck into a couplefun decks, but like, he got one
power.
Yeah.
He's still
Cozy Snap (52:16):
not that good.
He, he made it into Hella for alittle bit.
I remember that.
Cannonball is our new card.
This week.
And before we jump into him, wehave our spotlights this week in
what was the last week of thespotlights.
And then they swapped them andsome people still got her, but
if you didn't update, I don'tknow.
But it's Miss Marvel and it isKitty Pride alongside
Cannonball.
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What are your impressions of thespotlight week before we jump
into the car?
Alexander Coccia (52:40):
I think that
like right off, right off the
bat, like Miss Marble and KittyPride are two cards you
definitely want in yourcollection.
Kitty Pride has proven to be
Cozy Snap (52:46):
a, it only took a
couple months.
S like,
Alexander Coccia (52:48):
yeah, I
figured it out eventually.
Yeah.
Cozy Snap (52:50):
And Canonball guys,
if you don't know, he's a five
cost card, he's eight power.
Alongside it on Reveal, you'regonna move the highest powered
enemy card away.
Now, if any of those locationsare full, or if Professor X is
locked it down, you guys knowthe drill, it's gonna destroy
that card.
And replace it with a rock inthat exact location.
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And definitely unique ability.
We, we only see a couple of movecards and only see a couple of
targeted destroyed cards at thatas well.
So pretty interesting.
Got a couple mechanics that weseen, but we haven't seen just
like this.
And without going into synergiesor anything, hit me with your
initial star rating.
Alexander Coccia (53:27):
You know what,
I am a little hesitant on
Cannonball.
I'm coming in at a two starrating.
I know it's low.
But like I have some optimism,optimism around, I think I'm
joined you, bro, but I just, I'mnot as sold on it as others
might be.
Cozy Snap (53:39):
Wow, man.
Two, two star.
That's exactly what I gave itto.
Yeah, I gave it a two stars.
Well, damn it, we missedtogether, man.
You, we went down the shiptogether.
You had it cozy.
You had it, man.
You were holding strong.
I've ever seen in my life.
I, like, I, I, I have a lot ofwhales and sharks around the
house with my newborn, that'slike his, his theme and his, and
his nursery.
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Jeff the shark is going to beour first card to talk about
here and look at this guy.
He is a two three, Alex.
And his ability is you can movethis once.
So you got like a nightcrawling.
Nothing, Alex, nothing, not theinfinity gauntlet.
Now Professor X apparently canstop you from moving or playing
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this to any location.
Now I don't know how that'sgonna work with Professor X,
which is the first one I wantedto bring up.
What do you think about thiscard?
Huh?
Alexander Coccia (54:31):
I am really
interested in this card.
First of all, I think this isreally good.
It's a pretty cool card.
But like, it kind of breaks therules in a very interesting way.
And I wonder if rules are meantto be broken in that way in a
card game sometimes.
Like Pro X, Jeff.
Hmm.
Like who actually takesprecedent there, right?
Like, it's interesting.
It's, it's a question of rulesand I don't have an answer for
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you.
Cozy Snap (54:52):
So I like that you
brought that up.
That was gonna be my statementbehind it.
I, I, I think that you havethese rules and you have to
stick by them.
This is the only time they cando this if it's for one card.
Okay.
You can expect the Jeff comingmaybe kind of thing.
I was right or whatever, but andI kind of like that, right?
I mean, professor X is gonna, isgonna lose some value.
Not now, but in a few months.
Like when this is more, no, no,cozy, he was gonna be used with
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him and make it even, make iteven worse.
Alexander Coccia (55:18):
This is the
preview.
We didn't have like anydeveloper information about
like, like, oh, you could playJeff through Sandman.
You could play Jeff through theProfessor X.
Like, we didn't know any of thatat the time.
Cozy Snap (55:29):
Kang Kang the con.
What did we say about Kang?
What do you think we say?
Alexander Coccia (55:35):
I think I said
I was scared of it because it
seems like an incrediblypowerful effect.
He just
Cozy Snap (55:40):
came out.
I've only have a handful ofgames under my belt.
I've seen some others play withthem.
Kind of initial impressionsbefore we talk about any
specifics.
Alex, one through 10, likebefore anything.
Alexander Coccia (55:51):
My initial
impression is that he's a solid
like eight.
Okay.
Maybe an eight, maybe a ninecloser.
Like he's on the upper side.
He's not like a 10.
I think that like dark, hot zbu.
Silver, dark cock.
Good old 10, you know, eightoutta 10 Kang, the conqueror
known for being one of the mostpopular cards or Marvel Snap
course in the same conversationof OG Zbu and Dark Hawk.
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Right in there, right up there.
Probably approaching nine 10.
He's in in that range.
In terms of like the poweroverall?
No, I said they were approachingnine 10, his capabilities to
impact the game, but that's notwhat gives me reservations about
him.
It's not his actual impact as acard.
It's everything else along thesides that kind of, you know,
trips me up a little bit.
Cozy.
What do you give him?
Yeah, I
Cozy Snap (56:35):
was
Alexander Coccia (56:35):
gonna say an
eight for now.
Now got get wrecked cozy.
You're right there with me, bud.
You're going to embarrass
Cozy Snap (56:41):
me in front of our
audience.
Get wrecked.
Oh yeah, dude, you're right.
I guess we were just so, we werejust so hyped.
On him being a big bad, as ifyou don't know King is going to
be plate and he reverseseverything that just happened.
That includes snaps.
Got an eight, bro.
An eight.
This was such a bad card.
It's such, it is a bad card,bro.
Alexander Coccia (57:00):
At least I
like believed in it and took it
to a tournament.
Cozy Snap (57:03):
Well guys, we had way
too many to, to even go through
and if you guys want to returnto that, I'll bring it back.
Is next week the new season?
Yeah, it's the brand new, newseason.
Yeah, next week.
Alexander Coccia (57:14):
I don't, I
don't know, man.
Like, no.
Next week is not the, the brandnew season.
We still have one card, don'twe?
Yeah, we have,
Cozy Snap (57:23):
we have one card.
If you guys wanted to see usreturn with some more, we, we
pulled up those'cause we knewinitially those were some fun
ones.
I thought that was fun to goback, react to.
Hopefully you guys enjoyed ittoo.
Lot of laughing.
Lot of good times, man.
And we got more ahead coming uphere in the Snapchat.
Alexander Coccia (57:39):
Cozy.
This past week was PAX East, oneof my absolute favorite events
of the year.
I was in Boston.
I had a chance to meet a numberof you wonderful people, and I
appreciated so much, but cozy.
I was given a very special gift,a very special gift that I want
to bring up because it's notonly a gift for me.
But it was a gift for you.
(57:59):
Oh.
And it was from turn six, BUlongtime supporter of the
content.
And they came to me at PAX andthey said, Alex, I want to give
you something that's distinctlyMassachusetts distinctly
something that I know Cozy Issgonna love.
So he brought me this.
Cozy Snap (58:17):
Oh, what a.
What a man turn six Sabu.
Man, you've never looked moresexy than your entire life.
For those that are listening,Alex has put on not only just a
camouflage hat, but one bearingthe greatest logo in the world,
the New England Patriots.
You look great.
Alexander Coccia (58:35):
Yeah, I know
as a Bills fan wearing the New
England Patriots hat, but I, youknow, this is, I'm paying homage
to your interest in sports.
I know all about your time.
You know Texas qb and was itTexas a and m?
I'm trying to remember whichone.
Cozy Snap (58:48):
I definitely didn't
play at Texas a and m.
That would make me a five starathlete in college.
Alexander Coccia (58:54):
You played
high school ball?
I
Cozy Snap (58:55):
played high school
Alexander Coccia (58:55):
ball.
Cozy Snap (58:55):
I did
Alexander Coccia (58:56):
not play
college ball.
But you love Texas a and m,Texas Tech, Texas.
Texas.
There's multiple Texasuniversities.
How many universities do you inTexas, bro.
Texas
Cozy Snap (59:03):
is bigger.
Go look at the size of the truesize of Texas.
It like swallows up Europe liketwo times over.
Alexander Coccia (59:10):
So as I said
that statement, I realized how
dumb it sounded.
I know Texas is massive,
Cozy Snap (59:14):
massive.
Alexander Coccia (59:15):
Like not only
from a population standpoint,
from like an actual geographicstandpoint.
It's like a huge piece of land.
Yeah.
So huge, huge, huge.
Yeah.
So anyways,
Cozy Snap (59:24):
but you look like a
blend of Texas and Massachusetts
with that hat.
You got a little camo, littleSouthern, and then you got the
the Patriots.
I love it.
Alexander Coccia (59:32):
Yeah.
One of these days we'll have togo to a Patriots game.
Somewhere, somewhere.
I don't know these days.
Maybe I gotta fly somewhere to,to make it happen.
But it would be cool to see anNFL game with you because I've
only ever been to two.
Okay.
Both of them were Bills games.
One of them, it was likenegative 19 out.
It was so bad.
Bad, so bad.
It was awful.
And the worst part about it islike, we took like a, that kinda
like a party bus into Buffalo.
(59:53):
And what they do is they like,they bust you there and then
they just drop you off in aparking lot.
Oh yeah.
And you're just like, and it'slike.
11:00 AM Right.
And you're waiting for like athree o'clock or four 30 game
and you're just freezing outsideand there's like nowhere you can
go to hide.
Like you're literally in aparking lot and like the only
way you can stay warm is by inconsuming copious amounts of
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alcohol.
That's the only way.
And like the Buffalo Bills fansto stay warm, they like, they
get on their cars and they powerbomb each other through tables
and jump through tables andlike.
Cozy Snap (01:00:25):
I'm surprised you
remember anything going to a
Bills game.
Yeah, that's shocking that fromwhat I've seen.
I've only heard of the legendsand the stories, but they, they
remain that'cause no oneremembers what, what happened?
Alexander Coccia (01:00:36):
I, I saw this
one video.
So they called themselves theBills mafia and they put
themselves to the table.
A guy brought his like, newbornbaby, it was like two weeks old
and he held them up and everyonewas going crazy and they built
like a little baby table andthey put the baby through the,
through the table.
It was just, you know, there'ssomething, I will tell you this,
okay, I'll tell you this.
I, I wanna go to a downfall gamewith you a hundred percent, but
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what I will say is like when Igo to Toronto, meet leaves
games, right?
It's just a whole bunch ofsuits.
Like the only time you get toactually get with the fans is in
like the nosebleed section.
You gotta get like the worstseats you get at a leaf game the
better the seats are.
'cause you're with actual fans.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Everyone else has a bunch ofsuits.
After a first period, they'regone doing business talks.
The arena looks empty.
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When I was at, when you're at aBills game.
It's like, like John, themechanic's there and he's going
crazy and his wife's there,she's half in the bag and then
like the whole town, it's like,it's like everyone's there.
That's how like the whole city'sthere going crazy and I love it.
Everyone's a fan.
Every single seat is a Jerseyfan going crazy.
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I love it.
I can't tell you how much I love
Cozy Snap (01:01:40):
it.
Yeah.
I went to I've been to a fairamount of Super Bowls.
It's the same thing.
Super Bowls are so corporatethat like.
You know, you, you barely get,and then it's always the
underdog team that everybodyloves.
'cause like no one wants, youknow, the pagers to win for the
fifth time.
Right.
Even though we did.
But yeah, no, it's, it's thesame, same vibes of, of the
Super Bowl.
Alexander Coccia (01:01:57):
Yeah.
But long story short though, Igotta say that it was, it Pax
was wonderful.
Absolutely love Penny ArcadeExpo.
And hoping to go to the Seattleone as well.
Make it back to Boston nextyear.
And who knows?
I have some fun ideas forperhaps what future iterations
of my adventures at PAX couldlook like.
And hope to see you and everyoneelse there.
And cozy, I miss you not beingable to play Commander with you,
buddy.
That the, the year that we gotto go to PACS together and
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actually spend time, that wasone of my absolute favorite
trips.
Favorite.
Weekend of my entire life andgetting to see you for the first
time.
It was, that was special.
I hope that we can recreate thatat some point.
Cozy Snap (01:02:30):
Yeah, man.
Absolutely.
I yeah, hopefully I'll make it aout to Pax East next year and
we'll have to see.
I, it's funny enough, like Ilike east better than West.
Is that a east is bigger.
Yeah.
Alexander Coccia (01:02:41):
So they're
different.
So PACS East is cool becauselike, it's like one massive
stadium essentially.
It's the convention center inBoston and it's cool'cause
everything's in one spot and youcould just like live there for
the entire day.
PACS Prime is cool as wellbecause it's two separate
convention centers, but they'reclose to each other, so they're
like a five, six minute walkfrom one another.
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And in the middle of that walkthey usually shut down a street
where it's just like food trucksand stuff.
Yeah.
So like you're walking.
It's, it's just, it's like packsexcept it's two physical
locations.
What I will tell you though isthat the new convention center
in Seattle, when I tell you it'sone of the most beautiful
buildings I've ever seen in mylife, like I can't explain to
you how beautiful it is.
Like, it, it's like an escalatorgoing up a skyscraper with like
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an all glass.
You get to see the entirebuilding.
They even have at the very top,there's like ledges you can sit
on and overlook the entire cityat night, which I did.
It was like 1230 at night.
I just watched like a, a paneland I was just sitting there and
just like.
Looking at the cars, driving by.
It was just, it was justbeautiful, dude.
It's, they're both great.
They're both great for differentreasons.
And if I just got dragged out toboth, I guess
Cozy Snap (01:03:45):
I know I'll have to
go and check it out.
Speaking of checking out, didyou check out prodigy this week?
Alexander Coccia (01:03:50):
I did.
I did, man, I did.
So Prodigy came out this weekand so cozy, you and I were like
pretty lukewarm on this card.
We both came in at two stars.
You actually had 2.5, and thenyou said, you know what, Alex?
We we're bringing it down.
We're bring it out too and cozy.
I gotta tell you, you made theright choice.
What I will say is that in termsof statistics, post infinite
only, we're looking at a 48% winrate at a 14 pop, 14% popular
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negative cuber.
Unfortunately, for Prodigy, thiscard did not land well.
It has not landed well.
When I look across all thedecks.
The decks are very lackluster.
There's an ongoing shell that'srunning a 55% win rate, but that
is literally a worse version ofspectrum Thanos than just like
not running prodigy, like addingprodigy to that deck actively
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makes it worse.
That's pretty much the case.
With every single deck I lookat, there's a scream version
running a 53% win rate.
It makes scream worse.
It has not found its ownarchetype, cerebral form, and as
a result.
Dude, I was just gonna say,ironically in my D of the week
video, I'm like, this is whatI've been playing.
I had Esme, I had Prodigy.
I was playing C four andactually I act, I legit had some
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fun.
Now Cerebral has itsfrustrations obviously.
'cause they're like, oh look,it's Monster Island sick.
Thank you game.
You know what I mean?
Or locations that give plus onepower or whatever they're
called.
It's kind of frustrating.
But I actually like C four thebest I brought.
I'm so surprised
Cozy Snap (01:05:12):
you brought that up.
Yeah, I think those his besthome for sure.
Like that's, or, or at least itfeels like.
Because again, remember, likehe's, he was doing two things at
once.
So you get in the C four powerand then also you could get, you
know, a bunch of good thingsgoing off with that.
There's plenty of fours that youwant to go with it.
So I think naturally, again, wetalk about it all the time, but
any card that could do, youknow, offense and defense kind
of thing, you know, is gonnawork out best.
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Ultimately, you know, I've saidthis, I think, I think that he
does have,'cause I, I know Iwas, it may have gave him a two,
but I said at three, five, Iliked the idea.
Of him just being able to get aneffect at times.
And I think it came off easierto get him to go on cards that I
designated for.
I'll give it that for sure.
But it still came a little bitclunky.
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Overall in design, I thinkthere's actually people that
really liked the card.
I.
I think that was a preferencething more than anything, and
willing to go through some ofthe cons that did come with him.
I think the thing I will say iswhen you do pull for cards and
snap packs now in the nextcouple weeks, he's less of a bad
hit.
You know, at least you could dosome stuff with him.
Alexander Coccia (01:06:13):
Yeah.
He's not great.
What I will say though is likein my experience on C four
specifically.
Obviously I tried to prioritizehitting cerebral with it.
Now that cerebral is a two causeget it on curve.
You can set up the board alittle better to hit cerebral
more effectively.
But I legit won multiple games,playing claw on five into a
location, and then doing Cerebroprodigy and then recopying the
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claw and projecting the power.
So now you're taking thiscerebral buff, applying it to
the prodigy, and you'reprojecting the claw power.
Honestly, I did that multipletimes.
I was like, that's filthy.
That's so good.
Right?
It's a filtered one.
And like, so there's momentslike that where you're like,
okay, alright, that's, that'spretty solid, right?
And in those decks, it basicallymade mystique not necessary.
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And it's great because you'recopying the cerebral, but you
have the opportunity to dothings with like claw and stuff.
So Prodigy, I feel like it'ssuffered from what the original
version of Captain Carter did.
A lot of emphasis on positioningand not enough of a payoff for
that.
Ironically, you know, we talkedabout Miss Marvel on, on your
side there and like think aboutwhat modern Miss Marvel is and
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how much you have to like jumpthrough hoops to get an effect
to work.
Project doesn't feel quite likethat, but at the same time
you're committing a lot ofenergy resources and just like
macro consideration to getproducts to do the things you
want it to do.
It just doesn't always feelworth it.
You know what I mean?
And I think that's what'sholding the car back and the win
rate certainly shows that.
Cozy Snap (01:07:36):
Yeah, it's
definitely, you know, what has
written all over it as we saythis, about cards that we
predict that's gonna happen.
Flavor of the week kind ofthing.
Yeah.
Give it like three weeks.
People aren't gonna be playingthem.
That like, that's just the, thetruth.
Alexander Coccia (01:07:49):
Three weeks
after these weekend missions are
done, like I'm not playing thiscard, I'm only playing C four
'cause I get to do the weekendmission with Esme and Prodigy at
the same time, I will say thoughI know this is irrelevant not
necessarily irrelevant, but nowthat I'm playing the cards
together, like Surge is so farahead of what Prodigy, like,
it's not even close and I'mstarting to really tur, like I'm
enjoying Esme.
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Like, I think that Esme, like,as I've been playing more, I'm
like, you know what, this cardfirst impressions, it didn't
feel as good, but like.
Damn.
I think I'm coming around andreally like it.
It makes proje look likegarbage.
Like Esme is way better thanproje, I'll tell you that right
now.
But I've kind of been impressed.
Cozy Snap (01:08:26):
Yeah, no, I agree.
I think we're actually gonnanail it.
This, this month in our di Imean, we said surge was five.
I think you gave her 4.5, right?
Or maybe you gave her five, youranked her two.
But her and Esme are gonna beone and two, no question.
And then everything else.
What did we give three?
Did we say prodigy?
Alexander Coccia (01:08:43):
If you want me
to go, I have to like scroll the
way down here.
I think Zo,
Cozy Snap (01:08:46):
I think I gave Zo and
then proud of you.
I feel like,
Alexander Coccia (01:08:48):
so I have the
rankings here.
So Alex's rankings, we we'rejumping ahead a little bit, but
Alex's rankings were Esme Surge.
Prodigy, Zorn and Elixir.
Cozy went surge.
Esme Zorn, prodigy Elixir.
I like Cozy is better, but stillI do, I do think that, I do
think that Esme is, is lookinggood.
I think your ranking is lookingstronger right now, but but I
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think Esme is looking good andyou know what else is looking
good, cozy.
The cards that you must own inMarvel Snap, because this is a
discussion that we have fromtime to time where
realistically, guys, you got thesnap packs now you got series
four snap packs, you got seriesthree snap packs, you got all
these types of snap packs.
What are the cards that youshould be targeting?
What are the ones you absolutelyhave to have in your collection?
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We're not just talking about thenew ones.
Ironically, in my list there's alot of series five bangers.
I think the series five cardsare, they've been propping up
the good cards a little bit, butit doesn't mean there's not good
cards in series four and threeas well.
Cozy, I'll let you start us offhere.
What's a must have card in youropinion?
Cozy Snap (01:09:50):
Naturally, man, I,
I'm gonna say Thanos, but I want
to say that with a bit ofprecaution here because we've
gone pretty long time nowwithout OTAs, without changes,
and there's been one deck torule them all.
It's been a lot of Thanos.
We've seen a lot of Thanos.
We're gonna continue to, and sonaturally since this game has
come out, we've had the waves ofThao, Thanos.
I, I'm telling you right now, ineight months, he is gonna be
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good again.
But I think he, you are, it'skinda like a stalk.
You're hitting him on the, the,the kinda the downturn of.
Where his meta relevance is.
So the good news is it's a cardeveryone should own because it's
gonna come back.
It's a stock that always buildsitself back up and you can get
a, you know, a little time withit now.
But yeah, this card is proven nomatter what, to survive and
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thrive in snap.
No matter what meta we're at,new cards come along.
They continue to add to him.
He's so unique in nature.
I think Dan is just still one ofthe best.
Alexander Coccia (01:10:41):
I love this
call out because it really does
speak to what the spirit of thisconversation is.
It's not necessarily about likewhat's meta now.
Things are meta things shift,but Thanos is eternal.
Thanos will always come back.
It is the most cyclical card inMarvel Snap.
Yeah.
If you think Thanos is gone, itcomes back.
We have done, we have had Thanosfuneral so many times where
we're like, they did it.
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They killed Dan.
We're never playing it again.
And then sure enough, it's likeone of the best cards in the
game again.
And like it's often byassociation, right?
Like things like.
Obviously Mockingbird was a hugeinfusion of power for Thanos and
then you had Strange Supreme,but not just that like actually
even Strange Supreme as good asit as it is, you're seeing like
ongoing spectrum versions ofThanos doing so good with the
reworks to some of the stonesand stuff, right?
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And so obviously start Thanosstarting in the hand.
It's a one of the original bigbats, right?
This is a card that if you don'thave in your collection and you
get the opportunity to get it.
You absolutely should because itis like an eternal presence in
the meta game, an eternalpresence in Marvel Snap.
It's just a fantastic heart.
And I, I will say that one ofthe ones I wanna speak about as
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well is high evolutionary, whichhas a similar feel to this.
And high evolutionary iscurrently.
Very meta, especially withinconjunction with man thing and
abomination man thing, doingvery well against Thanos stacks
and abomination often being freebecause of the amount of
punishment you're able to do tothe amount of Thanos we're
seeing out there.
But high Evo it's a big bad.
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What the beautiful thing aboutHi Evo is if you're relatively
low low collection level, youhave access to all these cards
that feel like they do nothing.
You're like, why would I playMisty Night?
Why Cyclops sucks so bad?
Why would I ever play Cyclops?
But when you get high Evo,suddenly those cards start to
come alive.
Like they, it really is a biginfusion of power for low
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collection level players.
Now, classic high Evo, in thecase of like running the classic
Hulk and Shocker and all thatstuff, it's not quite where it
needs to be.
And I think that like WASP andspecifically shocker is in.
Probably in a position where itcould get OTA buff, like I think
high Evos traditional packagecould use a buff.
'cause right now, high evosbeing played almost exclusively
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on the toxic side, where youjust want a free abomination
basically.
And that's fine'cause you'reseeing it in like the Ajax style
decks.
But again, this is a big badcard.
It's likely gonna say it seriesV for the foreseeable future,
but most importantly it unlocksa whole new way to play Snap.
And it's really.
Advantageous for low collectionlevel players
Cozy Snap (01:13:07):
and invisible woman's
coming out the Unitarian card,
that's only gonna boost it,right.
So, you know, it's gonna have agood future ahead of it too.
So that's definitely a reasonthat I would highlight it.
Looking at, we're going from sixto four, we're gonna go down to
three.
Alex, this has been a cardyou've been high up on forever.
We've brought them up forever.
I think we were like originalchampions for this card, if you
will, and, and talked about itbefore it was popular to do so.
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Red Guardian, I think RedGuardian.
I've seen a lot of takes on him.
Some people don't like him andthink he's way too he's all over
way too much in the meta.
I would think I, this is theperfect tech card and I still
think it is, and I don't thinkthey adjust him.
I think what he does well is, isbeen like he's always gonna
scale good because you're alwaysgonna have cars with low power
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to hit.
And, and we, you know, I thinkyou said it on when we were
looking back, you're like, carswith low power have great
abilities.
Well, that's always gonna be athing, right?
So you've got that going for it.
It feels great and I it comparedto something like Shung Q I'm,
I'm more in favor for RedGuardian style of play.
Alexander Coccia (01:14:05):
I do like Red
Guardian a lot.
It's running a 54% window rightnow at 23% of the matter.
This is probably amongst thehighest.
Red Guardian's been Red Guardianstarted to really surge when.
The bullseye shells startedcoming out because then you had
like the mo the the, the Mobiusis sitting there.
You had the bullseye sittingthere and people were often
playing them on individuallanes.
I think Red Guardian is a veryeffective card.
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And the reason why you hate is'cause it's effective, but it's
also a fair card because there'sa chance that like, you can't
target the card you want becauseof its condition.
So I, I really do like RedGuardian and perhaps the reason
why we're seeing such an influxof Red Guardian.
It's not Red Guardian's fault,he's the release valve for
what's popular, right?
And so there's gonna be times,like right now Moby and Moby is
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getting really popular becauseas MA's discounting cards and
you're seeing lots of stuff likethat.
And so, you know, and movies ismaking a comeback.
It'll disappear and there's achance that Red Guardian
disappears now.
But Red Guardian feels like abetter catchall.
Cozy Snap (01:14:59):
It
Alexander Coccia (01:14:59):
catchalls.
Yeah.
And for that reason.
For that reason, yeah.
It's a must have in yourcollection.
'cause if you don't have Mobyand Moby or if you don't have
other tech pieces, that might bethe flavor of the weak.
This guy seems like you couldput'em in almost any deck.
Cozy Snap (01:15:10):
Yeah.
Just to spin two in a row here.
'cause I think they, the termcatchalls a really good term
when it comes to cars that youshould own because you can put
them in so many different decksand one that has been forgotten
for, for I don't know why we've,we've, you know.
You're gonna continue to saythat you missed the effective
old, and, and I totally getthat, but copycat is that exact
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same thing, right?
The catchall, the catchall cardthat has great stats, great
value, and can work across theboard.
This is one of those Snap Packpolls that you feel incredible
about because you know it'sgonna be able to fit in what you
wanna play.
Alexander Coccia (01:15:44):
You know
what's funny is I, I was kind
of, you're right, I do miss theoriginal copycat, but I do
understand why they had to makethe change.
And honestly, being in aposition where, you know, what's
at the bottom of their deck isstill helpful and I.
It's, you know, if it stays atthe bottom of their deck, they
don't usually draw it.
Like what's the matter if it'smuted?
Right.
But what I will say is like, itwasn't until I got like a really
nice split, I got like a goldsplit on copycat.
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I was excited about, I juststarted throwing it in decks.
I like looking at the card and Ihad the pen art studio variant
as well.
Like it, I don't know if thishappens to you, but sometimes
you just have a card that's sobeautiful, you're like, I just
wanna play.
Oh yeah, I wanna look at thiscard.
So I was doing that with CopycatLuna Snow.
I got a Gods split on too.
I gotta show you that variantlater please.
But.
I was playing copycat and I waslike, damn, this card is just so
good.
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It's just so good.
It's often a snap conditionwhere like you steal their
Ironman, who's really popularright now, and you snap and
they're like, but why?
There's nothing on the boardthat shows I have your, I have
your Ironman as a copycat.
Like copycat is this very lowkey.
Oh, I know you're shun cheese atthe bottom of the deck.
And I have strange supremesitting here with a smile on his
face.
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You know what I mean?
And I know you're not playingShadow King because who's the
hell is doing?
Shadow King does get, gets norespect if Marvel Snap for some
reason.
So Copycat is this very sneakyhigh cube rate card that I mean,
it's cr it's got a 53% win ratefor a reason.
Like it's crushing it.
And I like that.
Call it a lot.
Similarly, I'll say, if youwanna go down, so copycat, we're
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talking about a lot of Seriesfive cards.
Let's talk about a series threecard, cozy, okay?
Get, get some of the, you know,the people with series three.
A little more excitedjuggernaut.
Is currently absolutely smashingit in the meta juggernaut is an
11% meta card right now runninga 52 to 53% win rate.
Juggernaut is a low key cubeSteeler on turn six.
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It is so unbelievably good andyou often look at it in shells
and figure he could probably cutjuggernaut.
What's he doing?
He's winning games.
Is what Juggernauts doing?
He's a must own card at a seriesthree.
You'll love to see it.
Cozy Snap (01:17:38):
Yeah, for sure.
I think this is like.
A card that if we would've everin copycat too, but like as like
a competitive snap goes, it'sone of those like, what just
happened was not expecting that.
And catchall card that can workacross the board juggernaut.
It's so funny how likeunderutilized this card was for
so long and then it became morepopular, more popular.
(01:17:59):
Now obviously it's, it is whatit is today, but yeah, I like
the call out man.
I like the s the series three,the pool three as we talked
about before.
Rip, rip Pools.
Good call, man.
Any other pool theories youhave?
Alexander Coccia (01:18:11):
Pool three.
I mean, I think that silverSurfer, obviously.
Yeah.
Let's be honest.
Silver Surfer is huge, huge,huge, huge.
I, I tend to assume that mostpeople are nearing or at.
Pool three complete.
We did it.
Pool three.
Look at that.
At series three complete.
But yeah, silver Surfer'samazing.
And if you don't have SilverSurfer and you get the
opportunity to get it, youabsolutely should.
And the reason for this isbecause you can make a Silver
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Surfer deck so rapidly with somany different variations, with
so many other inexpensive cards.
Like you could literally make as.
Pool Three silver surfer deck.
And it's good.
Like, it's not great, but it'sgonna be good.
There's so many ways you cancook silver surfer so many
options to three costs.
And if you're new to it, usuallywhat I do is you can start as
simple as like Nova Killmonger,which is like, this is again
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trying to be low collection.
If we're not running NovaKillmonger anymore really, but
in this current medic against,then you can do a Nova
Killmonger, Ron Sarah, who'sanother must have at series
three.
Sarah's another absolute beauty,right?
And then you do two, two drops.
Whoever you want.
Two, two drops and then you fillthe threes out with whatever you
think you need.
You're seeing a lot of ongoingin your meta.
Pick a pick a rogue, right?
You actually pulled gladiatorout of a snap pack.
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Throw'em in there, right?
Like you.
It's so great how you can makeit, but usually the formula is a
Nova Killmonger Sarah SilverSurfer, forged brewed.
Then fill it from there.
Usually another two drop andjust fill, like if you have a
Jeff or whatever, whatever youwanna fill with you can do that.
But yeah, silver Surfer buildsvery, very good.
And if we're talking about cardsthat we really want to have in
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our collections that like arerelatively inexpensive to build
around, I.
I think something needs to besaid about scream at series
five.
It utilizes a lot of relativelyinexpensive cards.
Yes, some flavors of it do, dohave like some other cards, but
like you can run Arrow, you canrun Magnetos in it.
Polaris is a series three cardSpider-Man.
Like there's tons of optionshere, kingpin variations of it.
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And it's one of the best cardsin the game.
It's running a 54% win rate,despite the fact it's only
running a 6% metas share becauseit's been nerfed so frequently.
Last little bit, so much.
Yeah, but scream's definitely akeeper.
Cozy Snap (01:20:10):
Yeah, for sure.
I think this is just such agood, like we talk about those
anchor cards, this is like oneof those anchor cards that quite
literally make the entirearchetype and, and you're
getting kind of a high evoeffect to it, right?
You're getting this card that'sjust gonna make so many cards
around it.
Then playable, you have a mediacollection.
It's like if this was a physicalcard game, this would be such a
sick card to pull because you'dbe able to like go and dust off
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some stuff that you haven't beenable to play with.
Yeah, good pick.
Alexander Coccia (01:20:35):
There's a
couple others I just wanna
highlight quickly here.
And I think that, like Ajax forinstance, is one that I think a
lot of people feel like they,they don't need to add it to
their collection and they oftenkind of punt on getting Ajax,
like people don't wanna spendtokens on it, they don't wanna
like commit to getting Ajax.
But this is a card that runs a54% win rate and it's very often
at near the top of the meta.
(01:20:55):
And it's actually a good playagainst Thanos because of your
ability to blanket impact.
All the stones in the boardstate with something like a, you
know, hazmat or a man thing, oreven a Diamondback from that
perspective.
So Ajax is one too.
And if you wanna talk aboutseries four.
Kind of the new sexy flavor.
But this one here is trickybecause of the impact on an OTA.
(01:21:17):
But Gorgan as of right now, hasproven to be a pretty good tech
piece too.
Running a 53% win rate becauseof the prevalence of hand
generation and specificallysomething like a Thanos.
So
Cozy Snap (01:21:28):
like it,
Alexander Coccia (01:21:29):
yeah, and when
also I like cozy.
I love myself, the Snapchatmailbag.
We got a number of questionshere, cozy and I'm actually
excited for this'cause believeit or not, we have a few like
Marvel Snap que usually we'relike right off the rails, right?
Right away.
The first question is askingCozy about like, whose favorite
salon is or like what, whatproduct uses and hair and stuff
like that.
(01:21:50):
Actually you haven't shaved abit.
You're a little more disheveledthan usual.
I think it's the second timeI've said the word disheveled on
this, this podcast
Cozy Snap (01:21:55):
actually really?
Well, I, I, I shaved likeyesterday.
Actually, I
Alexander Coccia (01:21:58):
You shaved
yesterday.
That's fake dude.
Look.
This clean line, there's no wayyou shaved that.
Look at
Cozy Snap (01:22:01):
this
Alexander Coccia (01:22:01):
clean line
right
Cozy Snap (01:22:02):
here.
Alexander Coccia (01:22:02):
Oh, when you
said I, okay, so you like, you
shaved, but you didn'tcompletely d like you didn't get
rid of all the hair.
Yeah, I did.
Like you just trimmed.
Cozy Snap (01:22:11):
Yeah.
I took this down to a 5.5 righthere.
It was at like a, at least anine man.
Alexander Coccia (01:22:15):
If that's your
five o'clock shadow that is No,
no,
Cozy Snap (01:22:18):
no, no.
5.5 on the, on my razor.
Five o'clock.
No, dude, I actually thoughtabout the other day completely
just going, going bald underhere.
But I haven't done that in likefive years, man.
The last time I did that was fora subhan.
I did.
Which speaks for itself'cause Idon't stream that I shaved
everything but my mustache.
I might bring that back.
Old Ted lasso.
Alexander Coccia (01:22:36):
I have a
picture of me somewhere where I
was shaving.
I like, was really like, I had ahuge beard and I did multiple,
like stages of beard.
Like every day I shaved a littlebit of it and my wife hated it
so much.
She's like, and eventually Iended up with a huge like
mustache, right?
She's like, no, I need, she'slike, you,
Cozy Snap (01:22:54):
I need whatever Alex
was, what card we were talking
about on my side that, that youlooked fresh outta survivor.
Like you, you looked like youcame off the island like just a
couple, couple days ago, bro.
That was, that was the, that'sthe Alex I wanted in my life
more.
Alexander Coccia (01:23:07):
Buddy.
You know what, I'm, I'm alwayshere for you.
Cozy.
Anytime you want to come cuddle,come over to Canada.
I'll give you a nice bear hug.
But let's go, let's get into aquestion here from Commander
Ding Dung.
2, 2, 3.
Some of these names make melaugh sometimes I'm like, I
don't know.
I, I just need to come up withlike a re very creative name
instead of just using my fulllegal name.
That's, it's too late.
That's a whole otherconversation.
Mailbag.
(01:23:28):
We should have variants assignedby the artists as the ultimate
prize for artist specificalbums.
Boom.
Cozy Snap (01:23:36):
Cody, that's a great
idea.
That's a great idea.
Dude.
That's a 10 outta 10 idea.
Instead of, you know the 20themote you're not gonna use or
whatever variant that youalready have good ones on.
Do not like that.
I wish they would do that.
And they already collaboratewith them to make those season
videos, so that would besomething easy to do as well.
The
Alexander Coccia (01:23:52):
only signature
card we have is that, that Nick
Fury one, right?
Yes.
It would be really cool though,if you finish an album for a for
like a creator or an artist, ifyou unlock their signature on
all their cards, wouldn't thatbe so cool?
That'd be so safe.
And you could actually liketoggle it in like the in the
custom card, like creator, likethe, the, the signature.
(01:24:14):
And it can be different colors.
That would be such a nicepackage.
Oh, that'd be, yeah.
That would definitely be, andpay a lot of respect to the
artist too, of respect.
Tribute.
Yeah.
Next question comes from TomBrennan and Res.
My friend and I were discussinghow useless and unengaging the
alliance system is with the lossof Spotlight variance.
Do you think that they couldfind a way to incorporate weekly
curated variants into theAlliance rewards?
(01:24:36):
It would bring back spotlightvariants and make alliances more
engaging?
Cozy Snap (01:24:40):
Yeah.
I think they could also dotokens.
I think that they like, not aton, but enough.
To get people invested as a, asa team to, to get, you know,
card acquisition more foreverybody.
You know, five things that willnever happen, but it'd be cool
if they did that.
Alexander Coccia (01:24:55):
I know that
they, like originally when they
were talking about alliances,they were like, you know what
alliances they are they're workin progress.
This is kind of like the firststory, this wave one bro.
They were so on that and thenthey haven't done anything with
it.
Right.
Unfortunately, no.
To
Cozy Snap (01:25:06):
be real.
Yeah.
They get, they deserve moreharping on that'cause it.
That's like stereotypical, like,we're gonna do this, or like, I
mean, they said we're on waveone of the PC build.
Nothing happened to that, youknow, that was the, you know,
what they, what they stuck with.
So, yeah, it, unfortunately, Ithink alliances took a, a dip
and they I don't know if they'regonna come to the forefront
(01:25:26):
anytime soon.
Alexander Coccia (01:25:27):
I'm hoping
that with the, the release of
snap packs, we have like somedevelopment time going towards
like, I don't know, a new boardfor the game or something.
China got two.
Cozy Snap (01:25:37):
China Snap got two
new boards, like instantly
before we can.
It's just, why don't they
Alexander Coccia (01:25:42):
just give'em
to us?
Like why don't understand, likeit's a different, it's a
different development team.
Cozy Snap (01:25:46):
Clearly.
There's just different yeah.
I mean, I don't know.
We obviously don't
Alexander Coccia (01:25:50):
have an answer
for that.
But we might have an answer forfam fam who says, I wanted to
plug cable as a great counter tosurge.
Many times I played cable on myturn and the opponent played
surge and I got the reduced cardand profited
Cozy Snap (01:26:05):
that is thinking
outside the box.
I like it.
That's a good one.
Alexander Coccia (01:26:08):
I do like that
one a lot.
Cable's a card that.
I remember it got buffed to twothree and everyone was so pissed
about it.
And then it was being played alot in mill and then it just
kind of fell off and it, it wasactually being played a lot in
Loki'cause it was handgeneration.
Remember it was being played inLoki because you'd get a card
and then you'd swap it out towith your Loki on turn three.
Oh, Loki on turn three maybeback in the day.
(01:26:29):
Oh man.
This is Brent that today's is awalk down memory lane as Captain
Crump has a statement.
I don't care about Mors deckslots.
I do wish I could rearrange mydecks.
I wish Mobile had the same decklayout that PC players have.
I hate scrolling all the way tothe end of the list to find my
favorite decks.
So Captain Crump hates your callout for for more deck slots, but
(01:26:49):
thinks you should be rearrange'em.
And I have to say the amount ofpeople that said, I don't care
about deck slots, I.
Was shocking.
It was actually a very frequentcomment, really on our side,
which was mind blowing to me.
Like, I, I don't understand ifwe have more deck slots, how is
that a bad thing?
But people were like, no screwdeck slots.
I was like, what?
Cozy Snap (01:27:04):
Dude?
It is such an easy thing toimplement, but yep.
It's shocking.
I'm, I'm pretty shocked by that.
Alexander Coccia (01:27:09):
Yeah.
It actually was legitimatelysurprising.
Just like this question fromcyber suit and this actually got
a chuckle outta me and cozy, youwould, you'll appreciate this
too as well.
This is to me.
Alex, you don't have to watchinception.
You haven't lived until you'vewatched Inception.
Your life is but a frail shadowof what it could be.
(01:27:30):
After consuming the Magnum opusof modern media for the nearly
limitless joy you bring me, youfail to allow yourself to
experience the ultimate joy ofwatching Inception.
Forgive him cozy for he knowsnot what he does.
Cozy Snap (01:27:48):
That is a great
spokesperson.
I almost watched it again lastnight actually, but then I
decided on Wolf of Wall Streetinstead.
Have you seen that?
Alexander Coccia (01:27:56):
Yeah.
I like Wolf of Wall Street alot.
I use I buddy.
One of my favorite comments inwhile I'm streaming is when
people are like, Alex, retreat,retreat.
I'm like.
I'm not leaving.
I'm not fucking blaming.
I'm not leaving.
Yeah, exactly.
I love it.
I love it.
And I love'cause his, in thatparticular scene, his dad is
just like, oh my.
With that being said, that'sgotta be one of DiCaprio's like
best performances.
(01:28:16):
Like, miss me with this Titanic.
I'm, I'm cold, I'm falling intothe ocean.
Crap.
This, that was such a great,great, great scene.
You know what else is good?
Shutter
Cozy Snap (01:28:24):
Island.
But you won't watch it either,Alex.
'cause you're too busy.
I watch Shutter Island.
No, I watch
Alexander Coccia (01:28:28):
Shutter
Island.
I'm working.
Listen, I'm working onInception, my wife and I, we
have a plan.
We have a plan, okay?
We're gonna watch some, listen,we're recording this on Sunday,
tonight.
It's Game seven Leafs, okay?
So we're gonna see what happensthere.
As a Leaf fan, my entire life, Iexpect nothing.
And so, like, that's just theway it works.
I've, I've been disappointedwith'em in the past, so we'll
know today if they'vedisappointed me again.
(01:28:51):
But what I will say is that oncethe leaves are done, it's
inception time, baby.
Okay?
And you know what?
Cozy.
If that movie better not suck.
'cause if it does, I'm gonnacall you out on it.
Yeah.
Okay.
Cozy, pick the one.
Which one do I watch for aShutter Island or inception?
Go.
Cozy Snap (01:29:04):
Inception.
Alexander Coccia (01:29:04):
Alright.
Shutter Island.
It is.
And we'll see you on that nextone.
Cozy Snap (01:29:07):
So thanks for
listening, thanks for hanging
out as always, and until thenext one guys, happy snapping.