Heralds of Galactus Season Breakdown | Every Card Ranked | The Snap Chat Ep. 143 - The Snap Chat: Marvel Snap Podcast

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Alex (00:00):
Hey everyone, and welcome to the next edition of the
Snapchat.
Today I'm joined by a veryspecial guest.
Today we have Dexter Dexter.
How are you doing, my man?
And, uh, just as we went livehere, you told me that you were
born ready.
This is the moment you've beenwaiting for, for a long time.
Welcome to the Snapchat, myfriend.
I, I knew

Dekkster (00:17):
it, I knew it would happen.
Eventually Cozy would tap out,and I'd be here in my, my
rightful place as co-host ofSnapchats.

Alex (00:26):
Man, that's, it's so funny that, uh, you know, you
mentioned that Cozy issobviously on location in China
right now, and, uh, we do wishhim the best as he, uh, starts
the Marvel Rivals IgniteTournament, casting it and
hosting it.
Uh, but in the meantime, Iactually have a bit of a fun
story for you, Dexter.
Um, I dunno if you know this,but I live kind of like outside
of Toronto, but on a surveythat's like the last one before

(00:46):
it turns into like vineyards andlike a bunch of farmland.
Okay.
So we get a lot of animals inour survey because like, it's
like kind of the first surveythey wander into.
And so, um, anyways, we've had araccoon ripping apart everything
on our property, like my kids'toys, the garbages ripping up
everything.
And this has happened before andI tend to try to be like very
good with the animals.

(01:07):
Like we have like all theselike, like humane traps.
We trap the animals then like werelease them like kind of like
down the street in a vineyardand stuff like that.
I've done that with squirrelsthat've been like trapped in
like our attic or our walls orsomething random.
But like, anyways, so we havethis raccoon and last time we
had a raccoon do this, itactually tore a massive hole in
our roof.
And then what happened was, iswe only realized the hole was
there when it rained.

(01:27):
And my daughter was like, Heydaddy, it's raining in my room.
And so that's bad, right?
So listen to this deck.
So Simone's like, you gotta puta trap up, you gotta get this
raccoon right.
I'm like, all right, great.
And you're probably thinking,Alex probably caught a rabid
raccoon.
And this is where the story'sgoing.
Not at all.
I put out the trap.
The trap says you're supposed toput cat food in there to, to
attract the raccoon.
So anyways, day it goes by, youknow, it's nighttime into

(01:50):
morning.
And, uh, I wake up in themorning, I go and I actually go
to, uh, get something in likethe rear yard where I put the
trap and I forgot the trap wasthere.
I open the gate door and I walkin and all of a sudden I get
sprayed by a skunk, right?
Oh no, I get sprayed by a skunk.
And it's a skunk that is nowtrapped in the cage.

(02:12):
I trapped a skunk, one of theonly animals that you cannot
effectively move in a cage, norcan you effectively release it.
And I just got sprayed.
And the, in my defense, thespray was like, kind of like a
warning shot.
Like, it wasn't like a full out,like I got smoked by it, but I
definitely was like, yeah, theseclothes are going in the
garbage, dude.
Oh.
I was like watching YouTubevideos, trying to figure out how

(02:34):
to get rid of this skunk.
And then like people like werequoting us like$300 for the
skunk and that's just to openthe cage.
Not even like relocate theskunk, just open the cage and
let it go.
You know what I had to do, dude?
I had to get a blanket and I hadto slowly sneak up on the skunk
while he's staring at me andliterally lifting his butt at my
head.
Okay.
And I slowly over like fiveminutes, lowered the blanket

(02:58):
over the cage so that he calmeddown.
Once he calmed down, I waitedabout a minute, I stood over the
cage, like I was straddling itlike a horse and just lifted the
gate and the skunk just likewaddled away.
It just like went do, do.
And waddled away just, and I'mlike, oh man, I should have told
my neighbors.
'cause he wandered right intothe backyard where there was
like dogs.
And then the dogs startedbarking.

(03:18):
I was like, oh bro.
I just went inside.
That's my story

Dekkster (03:20):
for today.
Oh my.
Why don't you record this stuff?
I feel like you have all thesecrazy stories.
Like this is, this is content,man.
Well, I,

Alex (03:27):
I don't have a video of me getting initially sprayed'cause
I was kind of caught bysurprised by it, to be honest
with you.
But I do have pictures of theskunk.

Dekkster (03:34):
I have no skunk stories.
It's I'm so sorry you gotsprayed.

Alex (03:38):
Yeah, it's okay.
It wasn't the worst.
And you know what happened?
My daughter was like, my kidswere in the house and they're
like, everything smells.
It smells'cause it was likeright outside my house.
And these things wreak man.
It was awful.
Yeah.
And it smelled in the house andthe kids were all crying'cause
it smelled so bad and you can'teven open the windows.
'cause it smells horribleoutside too.
So we took them to like one ofthose indoor play pa places to

(03:58):
like calm down for a little bit.
So anyways if you're going to belike, uh, you know, catching
wild animals don't catch skunksbecause they are a pain But I
don't think you needed me totell you that Dexter, they, they
like, how was your.

Dekkster (04:12):
My week was good.
I no skunk attacks.
My dog pooped on my rugs thismorning.

Alex (04:18):
Okay,

Dekkster (04:19):
nice.
Um, that's about it, but, uh,that's, that's not too bad.
Cleaning up a rug versus gettingsprayed by a skunk.
I'll take it.
Um, what else?
That's it.
I've just played a lot of MarvelSnap.
I'm actually enjoying the game alot, which is maybe a hot take,
but, yeah.
Wait a minute.
Hold on, hold

Alex (04:36):
on.
You're enjoying Marvel Snap?

Dekkster (04:39):
Yeah.
Would you like to expand onthat?
Well, I, I think it's the best,uh, digital card game still.
I still feel like it's, uh, it'sa lot of fun if you're playing
the right stuff.
Also, maybe I'm a little biased'cause I like have a full
collection, compared to like thenormal player.
But, uh, it's, are you not?
Enjoying it.

Alex (04:59):
It's good.
No, I've been thoroughlyenjoying Marvel Snap.
I'm still one of the fewenjoyers of Marvel Snap.
It's just, that is, is it a hottake, perhaps?
I mean, I, I was literally justwatching you play C four, so
maybe that was part of yourenjoyment.

Dekkster (05:11):
C four is good.
It's really good right now.
Yeah.
We'll see if, uh, if the newseason changes anything, but I
don't think I will.

Alex (05:18):
But yeah, and like, I honestly have been enjoying
Marvel Snap.
Um, I think that the Grand Arenahas been a great inclusion into
the game.
I'm really hoping that theycontinue to lean into the grand
arena.
In fact, I had kind of floatedthe idea, uh, in prior weeks
that I think it would be cool iflike, there was like 10 arena
commanders every single month.
Like give rid of conquest, likewhatever.
I know there's people likeconquest, whatever.
Get rid of it.
And then what you do is you havewhat?

(05:39):
Do you like Conquest?
No,

Dekkster (05:41):
I think it's bad.
They should delete it.
Um, I, I don't know how theywould bring it as like a limited
mode because it's like ainfinite conquest.
You have to like grind ticketsor whatever, but I just, I kind
of.
I it made, it made my hair fallout.
That's why I'm Bolt.
'cause I played conquest likelast week.
That's

Alex (05:57):
fair.
What what I had suggested wasevery single month what you do
is you have like 10 newchampions or commanders and they
all have their own unique skillsand those 10 rotate every single
month.
So one month it's like theAvengers.
The next month it's like,Knowles Minions and the next
month it's uh, villains ofwhatever Heralds of Galactus or
whatever.
Right.
And they rotate every singlemonth.

(06:18):
I thought that'd been coolbecause I actually really liked
the game boat.
I actually thought that theinitial original energy, like
the extra energy I should say,that they gave you made a huge
difference.
Starting turn one with twoenergy completely changes all
the lines in the way you playthe game.
Outside of just the skill.
Like I really liked that newgame mode.

Dekkster (06:36):
Yeah.
I loved it.
Especially like for the firstday I played so much of it and I
planned on playing more of itand then it turned into like
tech slot.

Alex (06:44):
Yeah.
Which

Dekkster (06:44):
I didn't really enjoy.
Um, I think they adjusted that,but I feel like it was a little
bit too late.
And at that point I just preferplaying ladder'cause I like
seeing my number go up or down.
Um, but I think, yeah, I thinkGrand Arena has a lot of
potential.
I do like the idea of likegetting rid of Prebus and just

(07:06):
having, or sorry, keeping theprebus, getting rid of the, the
customs.
And then they could just cyclethrough them and adjust them.
So nothing's too op.
And uh, I think that'd be reallyfun.
I think it's really good for newplayers.
But I know a lot of people triedit out.
I tried to get a lot of my oldfriends who like quit.
They used to really love Snapand then they quit.
I was like, Hey, come try outthis new mode and see if it's

(07:28):
fun.
Like it's, uh, it's free to playand they, they just uninstalled
again.
They just didn't like it enoughto bring them back in.
But we'll see.
It is like commander of of Snap.
That's kind of cool.
Right.

Alex (07:40):
It is cool.
And I think one of thechallenges though, and I had
like a, I have one particularfriend who like stopped playing
Snap a little while ago and Ihad told him to give the game a
shot.
And I think what he said wasessentially is like it's an
insurmountable hill to climb totry to catch up.
Like he, he doesn't want to becompetitive, but when he's
playing he wants to becompetitive again.
Like he, when he starts to getback into it, he wants to be
able to do the, and he watchesmy like top 10 video, whatever.

(08:01):
He's like, I can't build any ofthese.
And I've been even incorporatinglike, budget versions of stuff
and sometimes you still can'teven build those.
So it's like, it's, I understandthe frustration, right?
And it's almost like, well,you're back in it.
And then like, you know, you'replaying these prebuilt decks and
then you're getting hit withEnchanter, Chachi, like on turn
five and six, or even sometimesa discounted version of them on
six built together.

(08:21):
So yeah, like I under, Iabsolutely agree there's a lot
of tech swap, uh, prebuiltversus prebuilt matchmaking.
And custom versus custommatchmaking might've been an
option as well.
But I actually really liked thefirst day it was awesome when
the, when the meta wasn'tfigured out, that first day
playing prebuilt, it really wasthe best.
Now you did mention C four.
We talked about the grand arena,but what we have not yet talked
about is whether or not the metais gonna completely shift under

(08:42):
the weight of Galactus.
Fantastic.
Four first steps.
Dexter, this is now the newpremium season pass card.
It'll cost you 10 bucks tounlock galactus.
Fantastic.
Four first steps.
And yes, you're seeing some veryhigh production value on this,
uh, on this here podcast.
We're scrolling right throughthe blog.
You're getting the officialblock stuff here.

(09:04):
Galactus First Steps a six 12that reads My Herald is the next
character.
I see you play end of turn, plustwo power if you're winning my
Herald's location.
And that happens whetherGalactus is in hand or in play.
Dexter,

Dekkster (09:20):
what are you thinking?
I think, uh, that last textthere, if hand or in play is
kind of what kills the card.
I think he's gonna be not great.
I feel like Red Hulk's juststraight up better.
If he gained power while he wasin your deck, I think he'd be
something good.
Then you can like try and dosome lock, jaw blink sort of
stuff where you pull'em outtayour deck or you kind of just

(09:41):
throw'em in some hella deck andtry and just bring them out.
I feel like you have to cheat'emout.
And at that point I still feellike there's a lot of better
options out there.
End of turn, stuff is cool.
Well, not really.
It's kind of frustrating in itscurrent state.
And I think, uh, yeah, likeinvisible woman end of turn

(10:01):
stuff is not gonna fit this init.
So it's, it's just, it's a bit,it's a bit weird and I think
it's gonna be one of the weakerseason pass cards we've seen in
like a year.
I could be wrong.
I hope I'm wrong.
It's a cool card.
It's a cool concept.
I like Galactus as a character.
But I just think he's notenough.

Alex (10:19):
That's a very interesting take.
That's not what I expected.
So from a star ratingperspective, we usually do one
to five stars.
What do you think in starrating?

Dekkster (10:27):
Okay, there's six turns, right?
Usually, yeah, six to seven.
He's like a six, A 6 24.
Like at best case scenario.
And like Red Hulk, I wouldn'teven expect that.
Yeah.

Alex (10:38):
Assume that he gets full like

Dekkster (10:39):
six 16 or six 18 regularly.
Is that good enough for you?
No.
'cause you might as well justrun Red Hulk or any other thing.
You have to cheese this in someother way.
I feel like you have to like, Idon't know, get this out early
and then arm him him, but thenhe is just 20 power in two lanes
or whatever.
Like you might as well just dosome Knull stuff.
I would give this like a three,

Alex (10:59):
three stars.
Okay.
Much lower than I was expecting.
I do mirror some of the concernsyou have.
But I'm gonna be going with afour star rating.
Uh, I do think that it's maybeslightly better than you're
giving it credit for.
It starts at Vanilla Hulk stats,right?
Six 12.
Like, that's literally whatVanilla Hulk is.
And now if you think about thegiganto buff, it makes sense
because it is so easy for thisto get into that range.

(11:21):
Destroyer is a six 16 and youonly need two winning location
procs to get there, right?
And so like, yeah, we had blobsthat got to like insanely stupid
powers.
Like we, we are kind of used tothose types of things.
But if we're thinking about likewhat Galactus First Steps might
actually do, first of all itfeels like saying tore on the
card a little bit.
Because you're gonna be battlingfor particular locations.

(11:43):
Right.
And I think that even if it onlypros twice, you're still at six
16, right?
Like that's still pretty good.
Yeah.
Red Hull can get above that, butRed Hulk is relying on your
opponent to float energy.
Whereas with this you're kind ofholding your own destiny and you
could be playing cards or evenlike these tempo, mid-range
style decks that try to takeadvantage of the fact that
you're trying to earninitiative, keep initiative and

(12:05):
win these locations.
I don't know, man.
I think it might be slightlybetter than three, but again, I
don't see it as a five star cardeither.
But it still feels like apotentially powerful card in my
opinion.

Dekkster (12:17):
Yeah, I mean I hope he is good.
He's very flavorful and usuallythe season pass cards are good,
so maybe I'm like missing somesort of interaction.
But I'm definitely gonna messwith them.
But I feel like there's justbetter alternatives.
I don't know, maybe when theymade him, they expected him to
be in like fantastic card decksor something.
Uh, just making these big end ofturn decks.

Alex (12:38):
Yeah, I'm not sure.
Um, but I, I do think that six12, like is a pretty high stat
line.
Like, I feel like if this cardwere released like two years
ago, I bet you we would'vereleased at six 10.
I feel like they juiced it bytwo power for like the season
pass plot armor, and also ifit's underperforming, you know,
they're gonna buff it.
Let's be honest it's, I don'tknow, man.
I don't, I don't see itunderperforming like wild.

(13:00):
Like I don't see it wildlyunderperforming expectations.
Like, do you think this is likein line of the likes of like a,
a blink?
Like is that kinda like a goodcard for the month than largely
forgotten about?
Or do you think this is likebetter or worse than that?

Dekkster (13:13):
Well, I think there's a new card coming out that we'll
go over shortly.
That blink kind of gets ruinedby.
Um, yes, and it'll definitelycheck this sort of interaction
if it does end up becoming good.
So that's another like concern Ihave, like this is coming out,
but they're also immediatelyreleasing something that might
be the bane of his existence.

(13:33):
But yeah, I don't, I almost feellike a hulking is better than
this.
Uh, just for the surpriseinteraction.

Alex (13:39):
That is an insanely hot.
There is no way hulking isbetter than Galactus first
steps.
There's no way.
Like, buddy, have you beensipping on grape juice over
there or what?

Dekkster (13:50):
I wish dude, grape juice is grape, but I, I don't
know.
Hulking is good.
I just got ruined by hulkingtoday when I was playing C four
because they played it and ithit a freaking leader and the
leader copied all my four costcards.
Like what the, what are theodds?
But then that stuff is just verysurprising.
Another thing about Galactus.
Which is similar to Red Hole.
'cause I think your opponent'sgonna know, like his size,

(14:10):
right?
Yeah.
They're gonna know like howgirthy he is and like they're
gonna see what's coming andthey're gonna be able to play
around it.
And then you're just absolutelycrushed by, I don't know, a
juggernaut, an NTW whatever.
It's very easy to play aroundstuff like this.

Alex (14:26):
I don't think anyone's ever used the term girth on this
podcast.
I'm glad you're the first.
It's a very, very appropriatestatement around Galactus, uh,
as a whole, especially in thosetrailers.
I haven't seen Fantastic beforethe movie yet, but he does seem
girthy.
But, um, you haven't seen it?
I haven't seen it yet, man, I, Ican't get out.
It's so hard to get out andleave the house for a bit.
Neither.
If I got to watch, I I had to goby

Dekkster (14:46):
myself.
No, we should stop recording.
You should go.
We, we should go when we're,we're in packs.
I'll watch it again.
Yeah.
Okay.
It's an option.
It's so good, dude.
I really enjoyed it.
Yeah.

Alex (14:56):
Alright, we'll think about it.
We, we'll actually have tomention that later.
We gotta, we gotta pin thatconversation'cause we have to
talk about Pax later'cause wemight have some cool stuff to
talk about there.
But, uh, anyways, finally onGalacto here, it's gonna be the
season pass.
So it's gonna cost you that$10,uh, kind of, uh, admission to
get into Galacto first step.
So perhaps maybe they said,okay, last season was a little
spicy with the Fantastic Four.
We came in a little hot with Mr.

(15:17):
Fantastic.
So, well on that note, this, Imean, it's not the greatest
comparison.
They're very different cards,but as a whole, do you feel like
Galactus fantastic.
Four First Steps is weaker thanthe likes of a Mr.
Fantastic.
Four, uh, first Steps.

Dekkster (15:31):
Oh, a

Alex (15:31):
hundred percent.

Dekkster (15:32):
Really?
Yeah.
You think it's not even close?
Oh, it's not even close.
Mr.
Fantastic First Steps is like as tier card.
He is like five out of five.
This card is questionable at, atbest.
I think he's fantastic.
Yeah.
I hope, uh, I mean I really hopeI'm, I'm missing some sort of
interaction.
He'll actually be good.
'cause I think that'd be fun.
But I don't know if you releasean op season pass card,

(15:52):
everyone's like, oh, it's paidto win.
But if you release a lacklusterone, it's like, why didn't they
release a better one?
And people complain about that.
So I don't know.
You just can't, you can't winwith that.
I'm okay with a mid-season passcard, you know?
Yeah.

Alex (16:05):
I remember when Gilgamesh came out, people said that that
was mid, they buffed it by like,what one?
I don't remember.
One or two power.
And now it's been like, yeah,carrying that entire archetype
on its back.
It's so crazy what one or twopower will do.
A lot of people will suggestthat like one power means
nothing, but like realistically,when was the last time you
played noc?
Right?
All you just played C four.
Not a fair question.

(16:26):
You might have played.
No, I played him a lot.
I play him a lot.
Yeah.
NOC turn is pretty good.
See, I ask the wrong person.
My example got completely shotdown.
That's anybody else.
It would not have been, itwould've been a better example,
but not with you.
But anyways, man, Galactus firststeps, that is gonna be the
premium season pass card.
But that's not all.
Because if you love spendingmoney.

(16:48):
We got a super premium seasonpass card.
Now there's two parts to thisconversation.
One, yes, they're doing thesuper premium season pass again,
and I would like to hear yourthoughts on that.
And then two, the super premiumseason pass card, uh, which I
takes me practice to even saythat sentence over and over
again, is a three four SilverSurfer.

(17:08):
Fantastic.
Four first steps it reads.
End of turn, if you're winningthis location with an on reveal
card copy, its text.
First of all, Dexter, what doyou think of, uh, second dinner?
Going back to the well with thesuper premium of season pass
card.

Dekkster (17:25):
I was hoping they wouldn't do this again.
I, I thought this was gonna belike a, like a variant or
something different.
Not another card.
Um.
So it's interesting, I, I don'tthink the card is super good, so
maybe that makes it less bad,but also I just wish they
wouldn't do that.

(17:45):
I feel like they were kind of onthe right track with
monetization, uh, with the packsand everything making, you know,
it easier for people to catchup.
But then they started releasingtwice as many cards and now
there's like a super premiumpass.
So that kind of just ruins it.
And, uh, I think it's creatingeven like a larger barrier for
like free to play players or newplayers.

(18:05):
So kind of sucks.

Alex (18:07):
Do you remember that pocket of time where they did a
massive series drop andannounced, then released Sir,
uh, Snap Hacks.
Do you remember that pocket oftime where it felt like all was
right in the world and we hadhope, we had actual hope that
things were gonna turn for thebetter.
And then I remember firsthearing that uh, there was a
good chance we'd be releasingmore cards and I was like.

(18:28):
No, that's, that's not theproblem.
That's not the problem.
Don't do it.
Like that's not the problem.
And interestingly enough, likespeaking with, uh, like I spoke
with Dara a few weeks back andDara said like, more cards is
great, keep the meta fresher.
And was all for it.
And I was like, well what aboutthe hamster wheel?
What about this hamster wheelwe're all on?
We're like running on thishamster wheel and like the Snap
packs aren't accommodating theamount of tokens we need for all

(18:49):
the cards being released.
And now there's the superpremium season pass.
And then like, there's all thesethings happening.
Dexter.
What are we supposed to do?
Do we just keep having to spendmoney to advance our
collections?
Is that the solution?
And right now it's a series fourcard dex.
There's nothing that stops themfrom changing this to a series
five and then further pushingfree to play players down the
line even for, that's whatreally scares me too.

(19:11):
And people said Fantastic Carwas gonna be mid two.
Fantastic.
Car was supposed to be mid ornot even relevant to the end of
the season.
Three days in fantastic cars,Evo decks were like near top of
the meta.
So I'm a little scared.

Dekkster (19:25):
Yeah.
I don't know.
I think they just need to havemore series drops.
Like if they're gonna do this,they just need more series
drops.
I also wish this was likestraight to packs as well.
Yes, I think that'd be great ifwe could just open a series four
pack and get it instead ofbuying the season pass, you
know?
That's kind of annoying becauselike, it's like the same as a
Kid Omega situation to I think alesser degree, but like Kid

(19:48):
Omega, it's like people whospent a hundred bucks or
whatever had access to'em forlike a month before everyone
else.
Or was it even longer than that?
Yeah.
Like if this card does end upbeing good, people don't wanna
spend an additional 10 bucks,just have to wait a month.
And I think that's not cool.
'cause then it, it is more, morepay to win.
It's hard to escape the pay towin allegations.

(20:10):
It, it definitely

Alex (20:11):
is.
And um.
I think that the, they'reobviously trying to throw a lot
of monetization strategies atthe wall to see what sticks and
what works and how much likewill tolerate as, as a fan base.
Right.
Which is the unfortunatereality.
Um, obviously their business,they have to make money and uh,
card game has to sell cards insome way, but I feel like we're
still not there as to like wherethe equilibrium is between being

(20:32):
fair and being a littleridiculous sometimes.
And I really hope to that wenever see the omega red
situation again.
That was obviously egregiouscompared to what this is.
I think that the super premiumseason pass is easier to digest
than what happened with Omegared.
My single Omega, omega red kidOmega you are?
Yeah.
Yeah.
That was good.
Old Omega red pissing everyoneoff.

(20:53):
Yeah, but actually you might beplaying C five for all I know
with him.
Uh, actually did he get buffed?
I don't remember Omega red statline right now.
I think he's six.
He's a four six.
I tried him on C six I think.
So they changed his ability todo additional power.
That's what it was.
Yeah.
It's been a while since it's oldOmega red.
But anyways, let's actually talkabout Silver Surfer First Steps.
Dex, what do you think Starrating?

(21:13):
Initial thoughts?

Dekkster (21:15):
My initial thoughts were, I think that she's gonna
be pretty good in Surfer becauseyou could play your, you could
play her early on the lane.
As long as you don't put anotheron reveal in her lane, like
she's not gonna copy the text sothen you can follow up much
later with the Silver Surfer.
And basically she's likeabsorbing man, but inverted and
also costs less, uh, which ispretty nice.

(21:37):
But it's, uh, I talked aboutthis on my stream and uh, a lot
of people who are like higherrank, like top 10, they were
saying that uh, Surfer playersdon't try and win the Surfer
lane and you have to be winningthe location in order for this
to go off.
Generally they go tall in acouple lanes.
You play Surfer in a lane,you're kind of throwing so you

(21:59):
don't really want to try to winthis.
Or maybe Silver Surfer is notthe actual target, not the non,
for the old Silver Surfer is notthe target for this.
Maybe you're going for somethingelse.
I don't know.
Maybe you just go for an extragwenpool.

Alex (22:14):
Yeah, true.
Uh, gwenpool will actually legitpractice and uh, that could be
potentially huge, especially inlike the buffet iterations of
Surfer we're seeing.
And I actually agree you didn'tgive the star rating, but I was
thinking in the three and ahalf, like three star range.
Like I almost can see it hittingthe four star range, but I have
some like.
I have some issues with it, andI do agree, absolutely, like

(22:35):
yes, it's a pro on SilverSurfer.
However, one of the things aboutSilver Surfer is it used to play
like the Hope Summers intosomething like a s On turn
seven, you do have seven, uh,turn six or you have seven
Energy, which allows you to playthe Absorb, man.
The advantage to this, ofcourse, is that it gets buffed
'cause it's a 3D cost, uh, bythe Silver Surfer itself.
So yeah, it gets a little bit ofextra power.

(22:57):
I actually agree.
I think Gwenpool is probably oneof the best versions for it.
However, something else I wasthinking about is if you're
going with like the Galactusfirst Step stuff, which again is
like a mini sanctum Sanc toum,what if you were trying to buff
that Galactus?
What if you played this onto alocation, right?
This is your herald, whichhonestly could very well be the
case.
And then you follow it up withlike a drax, which sounds crazy,

(23:17):
but what if you're, if you'replaying Galactus for steps, is
there a chance.
I know it's cope.
I know you're laughing, I knowit's cope, but is there a chance
you're playing cards that wantto take advantage of like where
the Herald is anticipatingopponent playing there and then
all of a sudden you have aSilver Surfer first.
Fantastic.
Four first steps.
Why can't, why is everything sohard to say?
Why is it super premium seasonpass?
Everything's fantastic.
Four first steps.

(23:38):
The names are too long.
Dexter, they're too damn long.
But you know what I'm saying,right?
Like there's gonna beopportunities for this to double
dip on some of these, on revealeffects, especially with the
Galactus first steps.

Dekkster (23:48):
Yeah.
I don't know if Drax is the wayto go.
I feel like you're committingtoo much just to buff your
Galactus.
I, I think a third job, it wasjust a

Alex (23:55):
natural transition, that's all.

Dekkster (23:58):
Yeah, I mean, he kinda wins his lane.
He has a strong honor reveal, soI get that.
But there's probably good stuffout there that I'm not thinking
of.
But yeah, Gwen Pool's kind oflike top of mind and just
showing this in a Surfer deck.
But of course this could just bein any deck.
It doesn't have to be a Surferdeck.
Like the OG Surfer, it's stillsurfers, so it's a little
confusing.
But the OG Surfer decks mightnot need lady Surfer in them.

(24:22):
Like maybe this just goes insomething I'm not even thinking
of, which is just like, likewhat?
There was that like good cardsdeck that just ran a bunch of
hand buff stuff and you rangwenpool symbio spider, like
that sort of thing.
Maybe, maybe this is the way, Idon't know.
Yeah, it could be.
I feel like this

Alex (24:39):
is,

Dekkster (24:40):
sorry, I, I was, I think this is actually like a
four star and the more I thinkabout it, the more good I think
it is, which is bad.
I think, I wish this was likethe non-premium and Galactus was
maybe the premium, I don't know.
Maybe it ends up sucking, but

Alex (24:54):
I think Galactus is gonna be better than this.
Really?
I suspect so.
Well, I, I liked, I likedisagreeing.
For what it's worth, I thinkthat Galactus is likely gonna be
a very steady power output.
Like, I think that it's gonna bea massive drop on turn six very
frequently.
Like massive.
And sometimes that's not theonly way to win games of Marvel
Snap, right?
Like that's not the only way youwin.

(25:15):
Just big card.
There's a reason why Blobdoesn't see as much play as it
used to, but I do think theGalactus for steps is probably
gonna be bigger than maybeyou're anticipating.
Maybe.
I hope so.
I hope he is very girthy.
Yeah, there's girth again.
Now, one thing I was thinkingabout with uh, Silver Surfer and
um, the first Steps version ofSilver Surfer, of course, was
the toxic versions of SilverSurfer that often ran like you

(25:37):
have hazmat at three costs.
Now, now I was thinking abouthow with the Senda turn effect,
you're likely to be clearlywinning this lane and maybe you
can double pro the hazmat andthen do something along the
lines of like, you know, youhave the classic Odin combos
with those types of decks.
That's somewhere I wanted to tryto test it.
I don't think it would worknecessarily in like traditional
toxic, because really you justwant the negative one on the

(25:58):
board and then like you allowyour diamond back and other
stuff to do the carryingalongside Ajax.
But I do think that there'sprobably a toxic Surfer deck
that'll go pretty hard here,double-dipping on that hazmat
uh, hazmat based effect.
So anyways, that's a little copefrom me.
Was there anything else youwanted to, uh, kind of end the
conversation on?
Uh, Silver Surfer?
Fantastic.
Four first steps.

Dekkster (26:20):
I just think it's gonna be better than Galactus
and, uh, we'll have to see.
I hope really.
I hope you're right and I'mwrong.
I hope Galactus is better, butyeah, like the more I think
about this, um, I think it justgoes in a nons Surfer deck.
Galactus or the Surfer, uh,Surfer.
Surfer doesn't go in the oldSurfer deck, which God, this is
so confusing.

Alex (26:41):
It's true.
Like I can absolutely see thathappening.
It's affected, it's basicallylike an end of turn absorbing
man, like you mentioned prior.
And although we don't play lotsof absorbing man right now, like
we also, I don't feel like we'renot cooking with absorbing man
either.
Like that was a card that wasactually nerfed when we were
doing all the brewed abs mantype stuff all the time.
The cards got brought down andthen this feels like the end of

(27:03):
turn variant of it.
And we have a lot of support forend of turn in like Fantastic
car.
And obviously of course withthe, uh, the Invisible woman,
uh, first Steps as well.
The only thing is though, isthat once this copies the card
text, it no longer is an end ofturn card.
Correct.

Dekkster (27:19):
Yeah, it's just gonna copy and turn into it just like
a mystique does.
Exactly.
Or a Prodigy does.
Yeah.

Alex (27:25):
Wow.
So that is Silver Surfer.
Fantastic.
Four First Steps, my friend.
We have a bunch of cards comingout in the Spotlight Cashes as
well.
We, the two cards we're justtalking about, we're just paid
cards.
Spotlight Cash.
That's right.
Oh, I say Spotlight Cash andmeant Snap packs.
I'm confused.
What can I say?
We have Stardust coming out onAugust 5th.

(27:45):
We have Frankie Ray Nova onAugust 12th.
You have the fallen one onAugust 19th.
And then finally you have theCosmic Ghost Rider on August
26th.
Those will be series fiveseasonal packs.
We're gonna start ourconversation here with Stardust.
Stardust is a series five cardwith texts that reads ongoing

(28:07):
cards.
Can't be added to locationsexcept by playing or moving
them.
This is a four seven, and I'mseeing lots of concern about
this card.
But before we get into Stardust.
You are paying the kitten taxright now.
You have to introduce us.
Please introduce the people toyour beautiful kitten.

Dekkster (28:26):
He's gonna run away right now.
Oh my God.
He is just stabbed me.
Disaster.
Uh, it's seven.
He's a, he is a big boy.
He is 17 pounds.
But he was messing with my audiotough.
I didn't want him to disconnectme in the middle of the pod
recording.
That would've been bad.
That's okay.

Alex (28:41):
He could have, it's okay.
We would've survived.

Dekkster (28:44):
There's another one down there.
You can kind of see her.
Oh yeah, you can see her face.
See?
Yeah, you can definitely seeher.
What's her name?
That's Clover.
She's uh, she's tiny.
She's 13 pounds.

Alex (28:54):
Do you have any cats?
Yeah, we had two one of themrecently passed away, well very
recently.
It's been probably a year.
Her name was Mittens.
She was a pure Calico Persian.
And we have another cat calledMitt, uh, snowball, who is a
white Persian as well.
And he sometimes comes around,but like, he doesn't usually
jump up.
He's very like, he'll just.
Go and just fall asleep on theground.

(29:14):
Like, he's very, like, no onebother me.
Like, he'll disappear ifanybody, uh, hear if he hears a
voice.
That's not anyone from ourfamily.
He hides like he's very justlike in the shadows sleeping.
And then you're, you're justfeeding his food to skunks now?
Yeah, that's exactly what wetook his food.
We tried to catch a raccoon withit instead caught a skunk.
And uh, I mean they say thatcats have a very sensitive uh,

(29:36):
ability to smell things.
A sense of smell.
So that's probably why he staysaway from me now.
'cause I probably still smelllike the skunk.
I actually did throw away thoseclothes, but, uh, my wife said I
could not wash them anyways.
Start us.
I mess up the washing

Dekkster (29:47):
machine.

Alex (29:47):
I know.
I don't know, man.
She's like, nah, these aregetting thrown out.
Um, but also for the record, mywife loves throwing my clothes
away.
Like, I'm the kind of person,like literally I have clothes
that I've worn since I was likein grade six.
I have things that like I havehad for so long, even if they
fit me a little big when I wasyounger, I still wear them to
this day.
And I have like, I have clothesthat.

(30:08):
I was wearing when I visited mynieces, like when they were born
in the hospital like 16 yearsago.
And I still have them.
I wear them on stream all thetime.
It's a lot of Adidas stuff, butlike, um, but yeah, I, I like, I
don't buy clothes at all, atall.
I wear stuff that I've had foryears and years and years.
You're a big guy.

Dekkster (30:26):
Like you're tall, not like, not wide.
You're tall.
Tall.
I'll, a tall guy, little wider,too

Alex (30:30):
tall.
A lot of people think, well,actually, it's funny you say
that.
A lot of people think I'm reallysmall.
Like it's something I've a

Dekkster (30:35):
lot of times until I met you.
Yeah.
I said, I, I said you gave, yougive short, short king energy,
but you're tall.
I don't know what that means.
You're a, you're tall, you'relike, uh, you're almost as tall
as like Ben Brode.
You're like six four orsomething.
I'm not six

Alex (30:50):
four.
If I stand very, very, verystraight.
Maybe if you round up a bit, I'msix two

Dekkster (30:55):
maybe.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So I'm surprised you're wearingthe same clothes as when you
were

Alex (31:00):
16.
There's no way.
Well, I was, I was a goalie, Iwas a soccer goalie and I was
really tall, like by, by gradenine I was actually really tall
and I kind of was like over sixfeet tall then.
And I kind of carried my, mygoal keeping career just'cause I
was way taller than all theother kids.
And I just kind of stoppedgrowing.
Now I just fill out wide,that's, that's my current
trajectory is nice and wide.

(31:20):
Just go to Costco.
Why buy some clothes there?
Dude, I, that's funny.
Just go to Costco.
Do you realize I'm not makingthis up?
I go to Costco almost every day.
I walk to one, it takes me alittle bit of time, but I walk,
that's like my walking exercise.
I walk to Costco, I walk throughthe aisles.
And then a lot of buddies who,like, they buy things like high
profile items, like if they buylike a washer and dryer or a

(31:42):
computer or whatever, they'lltell me because the moment it
goes on sale, I text'em and golike, Hey, come back, get your
money back.
Because like they price protect.
Right.
And because I'm always there, orif something goes clearance
priced, I'm on top of it.
'cause I know I know all thepricing fluctuations because I'm
there almost every single day.
I should literally have achannel on YouTube about Costco

(32:02):
and like, I know there's peoplethat do Costco halls, but that
they're, they're com they'refake news compared to what I'm
capable of.
Like I know the ins and outs oftheir inventory.
I know their, their strategies.
I know where they move products.
I know when I know when theyreceive products.
I know everything about theCostco.
Like it's actually, it's insane.
I shouldn't be even saying this.
It's borderline embarrassing.
Honestly.

Dekkster (32:22):
It is a little bit, but it's kind of cool at the
same time.
You know, like you should, uh,you should capitalize on that.
I think you're gonna make themgo bankrupt if you save everyone
so much money.
Yeah.

Alex (32:32):
Maybe that's the case.
But, uh, we're we still have notreally talked about Stardust.
A lot of people are scared aboutthis card.
They're scared about Stardust.
That's why I've been delayingthe talk about stardust.
He's terrified.
Really?
You're scared.
I don't see it, man.
I don't see, I don't see thereason why Tod be scared of this
card.
I see why like in the worstpossible case of this card
becomes extremely meta, thenlike it takes a massive dump on

(32:55):
like a million cards, includingone of my favorite and Marvel
Snap right now, which is FenrisWolf.
'cause I play a ton of fenris inSurfer, like a lot of people
are, Stardust prevents Fenris,like from bringing a card on the
field to play, right?
Like it's gonna do a lot.
It hits way more cards than youthink, but at the same time,
yeah, it doesn't have anyoffensive capabilities outside
of like what century, basically.

(33:16):
Like there's very few offensivecapabilities and you, I don't
think you play a card like thisjust for its stats and for its
defensive side.
Like I don't think this actuallymakes 12 card decks despite the
fact that the effect is scary.
I'm going two stars.
I'm going on the low end here.
I don't think this is gonna bemeta relevant and I, but I've
been wrong from time to time.

Dekkster (33:35):
Ooh, stars is pretty low.
I mean, everyone's terrified ofthis.
He ruins Umba.

Alex (33:42):
Oh my God.
Baku, you

Dekkster (33:43):
killed him.
Baku kills Iba Baku counter, uh,blink uh, lock jaw stuff, hella
stuff.
Ris Wolf, all these extremely

Alex (33:52):
meta cards so far.
Um,

Dekkster (33:54):
He does enable some things like Sentry and
Gladiator.
So thing, no, you wanna destroythings with Gladiator Gladiators
affects generally a positive.
Sometimes.
I guess it depends on thesituation, but then he is just a
straight three eight with no, nodownside.
Gamers

Alex (34:10):
not playing Ris Wolf.

Dekkster (34:12):
Yeah.
I guess if they're playing RisWolf, you don't even, you don't
even care.

Alex (34:16):
Yeah.
You pop it off that gladiatorthan bringing that thing

Dekkster (34:18):
back.
Come

Alex (34:19):
on.

Dekkster (34:20):
Yeah.
Well, I, I don't know.
I think he's gonna be, he's alsoa three seven'cause he goes into
Azabu deck.
I think he's scaring, maybe hegoes in some sort of ongoing
deck.
I don't know.
Oh, I, I, I understand.
Think the fact that he justshuts things down is just not.
It's

Alex (34:34):
terrifying.
So what you're saying is becausethis is a forecast card, text
slop just got sloppier?
Yeah, a little bit probably.

Dekkster (34:43):
I don't know, I don't know if it makes the cut over
like a qi or an enchantress, youknow?
But I feel like it's just not ahealthy card to be out there.
It's like, see that it, it'slike the hella counter.
It's the hella counter I wish Ihad a year ago.

Alex (34:59):
Like, but hella, I mean, yeah, of course.
Like, cosmos harder to hit andstuff like that.
Obviously it's a huge counterthat, but I feel like it's, it
kind of solves a problem that wedon't necessarily have.
And it also, you know whatthough, at the same time, it is
probably the reason why theyfelt so confident to buff
something like doom 2099, goinginto the Invisible Women First
Steps.
Because when they did that, I'mlike why would they Buff Doom

(35:21):
2099 going into Fantastic FourInvisible Women First Steps?
I said that name all backwards,but whatever you got, you know
what I mean?
Probably'cause of Stardustbecause technically you have
what turns off doom 2099, right.
And Dr.
Doom.
Yeah.

Dekkster (35:34):
I think they should buff 2099 more then.
Yeah, this shuts off.
Doom shuts that shuts off.
Scarlet spider brood, sinisterUltron.
There's a lot of things thatthis just completely counters.
And I think that's, yeah, justnot healthy offensively.
You could use

Alex (35:50):
Doc A with it.
I guess that's a four eight Withno downside then.
Yeah, but I don't know if foureight's even worth it anymore.
That's right.
You got all these chunkies, allthese chunky, four tens.
Four eight's, nothing.
Um hmm.
Okay.
Alright.
I, I see the concern.
So star rating, what are yougonna give it?

Dekkster (36:08):
I was, uh, can you give

Alex (36:09):
halves?
I try to go fulls Cozy hasalways done halves.
We frown upon it slightly.
But you're allowed to.
If it's frowned upon, I'll say,uh, no, I gave a half, I gave
3.5 to a card earlier today.

Dekkster (36:26):
I'll give it a three.
So you think it's slightlybetter even though it's

Alex (36:29):
better.

Dekkster (36:30):
I would give it like a three and a half, maybe leaning
on four.
I think it's one of those cardsthat's like hard to tell.
'cause if it becomes too good,people just stop playing those
decks.
Stop playing Marvel, Snap oncar.
Like

Alex (36:41):
this is too good.

Dekkster (36:43):
Yeah, people were saying, they're like, I'm
quitting until Stardust isnerfed.
They were saying that in mychat.
I was like, grow up man.
You're exaggerating a littlebit.
I was gonna say

Alex (36:52):
possibly

Dekkster (36:53):
an over exaggeration.
Slightly, but yeah, I don'tknow.
It's um, it's not one I'mexcited to see at all and I
think it's just gonna be apurely frustrating card.
'cause I hate seeing cards thatjust don't allow me to do what
my deck wants to do.

Alex (37:09):
And that's probably the major concern, right?
We really don't want cards thatdon't allow you to play your
deck.
Right?
Like, this literally shuts downlike your actual deck for the
most part.
Right?
And I think that like there'sreasons why Marvel Snap tries to
limit things that like discardfrom your, like discard from
your opponent's hand and stufflike that.
'cause it could be sofrustrating to interact with.
This year is extremelyfrustrating from a tech

(37:30):
perspective.
And they had to make it a fourdrop a, they couldn't make it a
five, they couldn't make, had tobe a four drop, had to go into
the tech slot with Enchantersand Anders and everything like
that.
But you're okay.
Here's the question for me, foryou.
From me, for you.
Is this card better thanGalactus for steps?

Dekkster (37:47):
I think so.
Oh my what?
Well, I give him a three.
That's why I'd give this a threeand a half, you know?
And then I give a Silver Surfera four.
I feel like it's logical, but Ithink this is one of those cards
where like, as it comes out, ifyou lose to this, you're like,
that's busted, dude that's a Stier card.
And I just got wrecked.
But like it's Mobius, a five outof five card.

Alex (38:08):
No, but you can use Mobius offensively, right?
Even though technically likePixie is not great.
Like there's opportunities touse Mobius in an offensive
manner, right?
Like even in a lot of the decksthat run in Chanters, outside of
like the Pure Tech swap stuff,you're often running in Chanters
so you can like turn off thetyphoid and stuff like that,
right?
Yeah.
And that's even cope, thatdeck's not seeing much play now

(38:29):
either.
But um, now they think about it,people are just running in
Chandra'cause of the, you know,every day if you wanna make a
good deck, that's what you do.
You put Zobo in it, you do enc,Chandra, hunchy, Galata, and
Gwenpool, and then get a randomother bunch of cards and just
like, like just throw it inthere.
The deck is probably fine.
Right?
So now you're saying Stardust isthe fifth card in the slot

Dekkster (38:47):
maybe.
And then you also run sidewalk,so you make sure you get a four
drop out on three.
That's probably cope, but I, Idon't know.
I'm, I'm just concerned aboutthe potential of this card.
I think you have to really lookat the meta.
It could just really counter,it's a tech, it's a tech card,
and if it counters what'spopular out there, then sure.
Does it counter my cerebraldeck?
No.

(39:08):
So it'll be totally fine.
C two, maybe this goes in a

Alex (39:11):
C seven, C two gets roughed up hard because C two
gets hit, like brooded andsinister will not generate
cards.

Dekkster (39:20):
Yeah.

Alex (39:20):
C3 loses macari.
I don't know.
Yeah, I don't know.
But, uh, the other than that,like, yeah, it's tough, man.
It's tough.
I don't think this card needs toexist.
I think that's kind of like whatpeople are kind of starting to
feel like this card is answeringto a problem we don't really
have.
Like, do we need to, is this atech piece that we even needed

(39:40):
in Marvel Snap?
Like, do you know what I mean?
Just get rid of this.
Like, we don't even want it.

Dekkster (39:44):
Maybe this is to stop, uh, people from pulling out
Galactus for steps earlier orsomething.
Like just cheesing it out with alockjaw or blink or something.
This is why it's here.
But who the hell's playinglockjaw or Blink right now?
I'm playing Blink.
You don't play Blink electroramp stuff?
No.
You don't play no turn And youdon't play any cards anymore?

(40:06):
I don't

Alex (40:07):
play any cards at all.
I just, I just, I try to loadwith like an empty deck and he
just tells me I can't do it.
Then I uninstall the game.
Alright.
That's probably enough of aconversation about Stardust.
Dexter is scared.
Alex is skeptical.
And then we got Frankie RayNova.
I'm actually super excited aboutthis card and um, Frankie Renova

(40:28):
is a series five card as allthese are.
It's a two three and the textreads after the next time you
play a six cost card, doublethis card's power dude.
You just play one six cost.
And this is a two six lizard andshambles.
What are your thoughts onFrankie Renova?

Dekkster (40:48):
I'm excited about this.
Maybe Frankie Ray, Nova andGalactus First Steps have some
sort of synergy where you justkeep stacking that lane and then
you just slam Galactus firststeps on one lane and then she
doubles.
I've been messing around withmerge hand buff stuff for a
while and I really enjoy thatarchetype and it's kind of just
fallen by the wayside.
It's just not good enough.

(41:09):
Uh, they recently buffed agony.
So like agony into Frankie Ray,into like a Hulk buster.
You could do a gwenpool with thenew Silver Surfer, maybe buff
that up, you know, and then justgo tall and two lanes and then
this doubles.
Or you could bait your opponent,not even play the sixth drop.
They think this was gonna doubleand then they don't play there.

(41:29):
And then they get wrecked.
That's another possibility.
But I think there's gonna be agood card.
But the thing is there's so manygood freaking two drops out
there right now.
Like do you wanna, you have toreally structure your deck
around this card and insteadyou're not playing Mr.
Fantastic First Steps, you'renot playing surge.
And you know, all those othergood two drops.
So it's kind of gettingsaturated over there.
It's got a lot of competition,but I do wanna mess around with

(41:52):
it in some sort of hand buffdeck.
And that is

Alex (41:55):
exactly why I think that they can coexist.
'cause I think you need to getthis down by turn five, not
necessarily on turn two, Mr.
Fantastic.
And Surge.
They want to be out on turn two.
Obviously this card can veryeasily go down, turn five, allow
it to get hit by Galata, allowit to get pumped by Gwenpool,
allow it to get drawn in throughFAOs, allow it to do all the,
the fancy pants stuff that we'redoing with, with hand buff style

(42:17):
decks.
Right.
And I think that Frankie Ray hasa couple of different
approaches.
You can get her onto the fieldof play, try to buffer, you can
do some like fancy stuff.
Like here's a great idea I had.
Right.
Okay.
Turn two Frankie Ray, turn threeCosmo, and then you do like the
Nomura package.
It just goes hard, it goesmassive, right?
You follow up with the Odin onNomura because the Odin pros,

(42:38):
the Nomura effect first it'llget the double after the Nomura
power is applied so we can getinto like the thirties or
something insane.
You can also do the same withSymbio Spider-Man.
You can merge Symbio Spider-Manin into Frankie Ray, play a six
drop and get the juice.
Conversely, you can also use uh,Symbio Spider-Man to Double P
Pro on the Nomura with the Odinif you have that combo too.
Like there's a lot of differentways you can approach it.

(43:00):
However, I think that you hit onwhat was awesome.
I think that like agony is greaton curve, right?
Even some of these buff decks,they're playing Chavez, but I
really don't think Frankie Rayneeds to be out on turn two.
I think that this is the kind ofcard if you have Gwenpool and
you have Galata, you can playthis on turn five alongside a
three cost and set up a turn sixplay.

(43:21):
That makes sense.
It might even just be Galatafirst steps, honestly.

Dekkster (43:25):
Yeah, you're getting me even more excited about this
card.
Like, uh, the naura astralprojection sort of stuff.
I've been seeing a lot of thatwith like Odin.
And you have Lash in Elaine, youhave this in Elaine.
Oh yeah.

Alex (43:38):
Lasher's amazing in those decks.
Yeah.

Dekkster (43:41):
You almost just win the game.
If you get this in a lane.
Lasher in lane, you do Nomuraand then you Odin.
Yeah, dude, it's crazy.
That's, that's'cause Lasher goescrazy.
He goes, uh, he's 12.
He is essentially 24 power inhis lane.
Uh, Frankie Ray, similar, whatshould be 26?

(44:02):
That's great.
And then you hit a Astroprojection, Ironheart becomes
better with this.

Alex (44:05):
Yeah.
Iron Heart on curve as well.
And the thing I like about thatdeck with Nomura, now obviously
there's a lot of players.
You might not have Nomura'causeit's not been something that's
been like demanding attention.
But there's a lot of ways thatyou can, like on a budget,
actually subcards out and stillmake that deck work.
Like if you don't have Lasherfor instance, and you draw
Frankie Ray, you couldliterally, this is absolute

(44:26):
Coke, but it's a good example.
You could literally useColossus.
You could throw Colossus into alocation.
It can't be stronger.
It can't be Shadow King.
It just sits there and justabsorbs the power from the Mora.
Cosmo does the same thing.
It's impossible to interact withborderline.
So like there are so many waysto make that deck work, even if
you don't have all the fancypants cards, which I really do
like about it.

(44:46):
But dude, I think Frank, you Rais gonna be my top of the
season.
I'm not willing to go five star.
Oh man, I almost wanna go fivestars on Frankie.
I'm gonna go 4.5, which isbasically my way of saying this
card is a banger.
But I don't think it is gonna belike a disruptive force in Snap.
Like I don't think this is gonnabe like the card that everyone's
like, why did they add this shitto the game?

(45:07):
That's, you know what I mean?
I don't think that's gonna bethat.
It's not gonna be like OG Loki.
It's not gonna be I don't eventhink it's gonna be as prevalent
as Mr.
Fantastic.
First Steps maybe.
No.
Maybe.
I don't know.
Nothing t nothing's as prevalentas that.
I know, but I think this is anamazing

Dekkster (45:22):
card.
What do you thinking starrating?
I would say like a four.
It does have a lot ofweaknesses.
Um, q

Alex (45:30):
Yeah.

Dekkster (45:31):
And Shadow King are very popular in the meta,
especially Shadow King rightnow.
People, a lot of people doinginvisible women, shadow King to
just counter the, um, the end ofturn meta that's happening right
now.
So if you play Frankie Ray,someone just goes invisible and
in Shadow King they win yourlane.
Yeah.
And they ruin your game plan.
So just because Shadow King isso popular, I think he's going

(45:52):
to absolutely just crushFrankie.
But if your opponent doesn'tknow Shadow King, you just win.
Maybe I

Alex (46:03):
will tell you, and this is so I, I lurk in your stream a
lot.
I actually really enjoy it.
Mostly for all the swearing, butlike what I really enjoy about
it, I'll tell you, is there is asignificant difference in MMR
brackets, right?
No, I'm like.
Mid range.
Ah, mid mids a good name for it.
And then we have you oftenyou're the top echelon.
You and Dara, you guys areabsolute Chads up there.

(46:24):
And I will tell you when I'mwatching your stream, I notice a
lot more shadow King.
I'm telling you.
And I bet you a lot of peopleagree with me.
Shadow King is not nearly asoften played as you dip into
more mid ranks.
Uh, like some of us like to kindof, uh, just, uh, tread water.
Um, so that might be a high MRproblem up there.

Dekkster (46:44):
It might be.
It's very different up in thehigher ranks.
And, uh, yeah, you're probablyright.
It's a very different meta.
I kinda wanna pull up thenumbers real quick of how
popular he is.
Are you, would you becomfortable, uh,

Alex (46:56):
saying your rank?
My rank, I don't even know whatit is.
Usually I'm hovering betweenlike six and 10 K, 6,000,
10,000.
Okay.
In that range.
Um, if there's twitch drops, Iget much higher.
I get into like the.
Two thousands range because Iactually play the game more.
Very grinding.
Yeah.
Um, I'm latest, yeah, I amgrinding'cause I'm just online.

(47:18):
Yeah.
During twist drops I'm oftenhovering in the top a thousand.
The highest rank I've ever been.
And I even got like a, I thinkthey sent us an email at some
point, but like, highest rankYou were last year in Marvel.
Snap.
Highest I was, was 51.

Dekkster (47:31):
Really?

Alex (47:32):
Yeah.
But I think that was on a Twitchdrop day and I was like grinding
hard.
So I don't know.
That's really, but I don't oftenget, I don't often get that
high.
If I'm playing consistently,I'll be in the top a thousand.
I,

Dekkster (47:43):
so right now in the top 50%, which is 25,000 in
higher rank.
Yep.
If 53% of players are playingMr.
Fantastic First steps in theirdeck, the second most played
card becomes invisible womenfirst steps at 30%.
Shadow King is at 19.6.
If you do top 10% shadow King'sin 27.5.

(48:06):
So almost that's a huge differe.
8% jump in play rates.
Yeah.
So that's kind of crazy.
And then if we do all ranks,like if you're just infinite but
not top 50%, shadow king becomes17.
So he is less popular.
The lower rank you get for sure.
So maybe Frankie will beunchecked for a lot of players.

(48:31):
Are your cat kissing and thenshe'll be fine?
Uh, he's probably cleaning her.
Oh, that's the wrong end.

Alex (48:38):
Oh no.
Avert your eyes.

Dekkster (48:40):
No, that's a virtue.
No, that's normal.
That's normal for cats.
I reckon

Alex (48:45):
that's okay now.
Okay, now they're kissing i, I,you know what?
This is inappropriate.
Oh, Dexter lit.
You can't allow this to happen.
I'm gonna get the monetized.
He's weird.

Dekkster (48:54):
He's just licking her ear.
It's actually really important.
She's so bad at cleaningherself, and he's really good
at, at grooming.
Do you know what's funny?
The

Alex (49:03):
framing on like, my discord call is slightly wider
than what the audience sees.
So I'm seeing, I think I seejust enough that it's like
borderline offensive that theyjust see the top half.

Dekkster (49:15):
Yeah, they just see from a, they do see a diff I'm
looking at what they see andwhat, what's actually happening.
It's,

Alex (49:22):
well, we'll let you guys, uh, be creative with your
thoughts.
But anyways, that's Frankie RayDexter and I both loving Frankie
Ray.
This is gonna be a card that I'mextremely excited for.
This is my, I would say this ismy card of the month.
There's one other, ironically, aseries four card that I think's
gonna be insane, but Frankie Rayis definitely up there.
Um, now we have the fallen one.
The fallen one here, a seriesfive card that reads as a five

(49:44):
five on reveal.
Set your max energy equal tothis card's power.
Would you like to comment on it?
Lemme go back up to

Dekkster (49:50):
Frankie Ra for one second.
One sec.
Lemme look at Frankie again.
You wanna look at Frankie again?
Okay, I'm done looking atFrankie.
Let's go back.
Okay.
This is, that's quality contentthere?
No, I read the text again.
I, these, I think these might goon the same deck.
Yeah.
You think so?
Like the handbook

Alex (50:07):
sort of thing?

Dekkster (50:08):
Yeah, dude.
With like Galata, what if youdid Silver Surfer?
The new Silver Surfer into, uh,into Gwen Pool and then it buffs
like your fallen one and yourFrankie Ray and then you slam,
fallen one on five.
And then the next turn is youhave nine energy, whatever you
could play Frankie Ray and your,uh, whatever your freaking, your

(50:29):
Odin or whatever you wanna playin the same turn, you could play
Gala.
First Step.
It's a.
Galax is First Steps and Frankiere the same turn, then you're
not even chewable.
Maybe you've thrown priority,you've only won one lane, uh,
with your Herald.
Could be good.
So what star rating are youthinking about for fall one?
I guess, uh, I, I have to give alittle bit more thought, but I,

(50:51):
I think he seems a bit crackedin this sort of hand buff stuff.
And because I'm so excited for ahand buff shell like I've just,
I'm, I'm desperate at thispoint.
Like, I don't even care, um,about like how good a card is
sometimes.
Like I just want to have fun.
I want it to like enable some,like a different shell of cards
that has just not been prominentfor a while.
And for me, like that's, that'swhat I want.

(51:12):
So like, fall in one, I mightgive a four as well.
Maybe I'm super overhyping this,I'm with you, man.
I have four written down.
I'm with you.
Yeah.
At the moment, people can'treally cap your max energy,
right?
They have, there's like Mobiusand stuff.
So being able to hit this with aGwen, um, maybe even like run a
KO and stuff like that.

(51:32):
He can get pretty big.
Even if you're getting a fiveeight, then he has a bigger
body.
He's a five eight.
He is been juiced up, but yournext turn, I guess you got eight
energy, an additional two.
I feel like he has to be largerthan that.
You get him out early, that'sthe problem.
Hit him with the astroprojection or maybe a magic you,
magic you, uh, have an extraturn to juice'em up, or you also

(51:55):
have an additional turn withadditional energy.

Alex (51:59):
I don't know.
The only problem is, is once yousay astral projection, you're
already kind of like driftinginto copling a little bit,
right?
And then so I had you were, Iwas with you until then.
I was with you until, so I dothink fall in one is gonna be
good from like a comboperspective.
Why are you giving me that look?
I feel

Dekkster (52:15):
like

Alex (52:16):
Astro

Dekkster (52:17):
projection kind of goes in the decks with, uh,
Frankie.
Yeah.
Maybe you don't think so?
Yeah, like Nomura, Frankie sortof stuff.
Okay.
Maybe I'm coping, but he alsolooks very astral.
Maybe when they made astralprojection, they were thinking,
are you talking about his pecs?
His pectorals look astral.
Sure.
They do.
They do look astral.
I've never referred to someone'spectorals.

(52:39):
Oh, avert your eyes.
So it's the fallen one.
He doesn't against himmonetized.
He doesn't leave much to theimagination.
Yeah, okay.
Maybe ask for projections.
Cope.
Okay.
Maybe it is cope.
You know what,

Alex (52:50):
this reminds me of the fallen one.
I know this is really random,but this reminds me of the scene
in the Lion King.
When, when Simba's talking tohis dad in the stars, doesn't he
look like, doesn't he look likea lion?
Doesn't he look like Mufasa inthe stars?
A little bit.
Yeah.
I can see it.
You see it?
I could.
I could see it.
You're not crazy.
Okay, now that we've said allthat about the fallen one and
nothing actually of substance, Iwill say that like buff decks

(53:11):
are going really hard right now.
You got like, obviously surge,Mr.
Fantastic First Steps, Gwen Po.
Galata.
They're all fantastic.
The only concern I have is like,if this guy's not buffed up,
you're basically punting.
Turn five.
This is a five five.
At best, let's see, he gets hitby one Gwenpool, he's a five
seven.
Yeah, you're going into uh, turnsix with extra energy, but also

(53:33):
you played a five, seven, youknow what I mean?
Like, it needs to be more thanthat.
Like you need to have a muchhigher threshold as to like
what's acceptable.
And that's where I get a littlenervous.
I think that this might be oneof those classic situations
where I'm almost really excitedabout the cart's potential, but
I think the floor is really wilike really low.
I think this has the widestdelta of the month between the,

(53:53):
the ceiling and the floor.
You know what I mean?

Dekkster (53:56):
I think there's gonna be some cheesy line that we're
not really thinking of, like anagony buffet up with ironheart.
You got the lasher or Frankie inanother lane and then on five
you slam this on agony and allof a sudden he's 12 power.
'Cause you hit him withIronheart and you have the agony
down or whatever.
Or maybe you do have anadditional turn because of magic

(54:18):
and you hit him with the.
I don't know.
With something, with the galactoand the gwenpool, um, or Symbio
Spidey into this could be kindof crazy.
Mm-hmm.
Especially if you, you can agonyand then symbio and then do
this, but then it's like, maybeyou should have just played a
Nimrod.
Uh, it's kind of, it's, he'salmost like Sarah adjacent, but
not, uh, he is not mobious ofall.

(54:40):
I like the Symbio Spider-Man

Alex (54:42):
idea because getting that second on reveal is huge.
Right?
Like, that's really gonna dipinto that extra energy.
And then the question is though,like, your hand and your deck
has to be designed to like, oh,I got 12 energy.
Okay.
Like, what do I do now?
Oh, I'm still just playing whatI was gonna play on turn six
anyways.
You know what I mean?
It's like, I think it, it has tobe like, I don't know the deck
building considerations here.
I'm not there yet.
I'm not at the deck buildingside for this particular card

(55:04):
yet.
But I do see the potential andI, I feel like it's probably
gonna be good.
Like, someone's gonna cooksomething with it.
Like, do you kind of agree likesomeone's gonna do something
cool with it and it's just amatter of getting there and
figuring out if it's worth it.

Dekkster (55:16):
Yeah, I think it's got a lot of potential.
This one

Alex (55:20):
you wanna talk about Cosmic Ghost Rider.
Before we get into our seasonalseries four cards, which by the
way, one of my favorite cards ofthe month is in the series four
we have Cosmic Ghost RiderDexter.
Cosmic Ghost Rider is a Seriesfive card, which I'm trying to
frame appropriately in thescreen here.
And the cosmic ghost writerreads as a five seven on Reveal.
Remove the text from front rowenemy cards here.

(55:44):
What are your general thoughtson cosmic ghost writer?
He's gonna be cracked.

Dekkster (55:50):
He just ruins people's lives.
He is unhealthy for the game.
Another card that I'm justscared of that is gonna be
really not fun to see.

Alex (55:58):
Yeah.

Dekkster (55:59):
Uh, I guess like Cosmo to stop him or whatever, but
he's kinda like Red Guardian,your front lane.
He does cost five, which isquite a premium.
Like your card has to be reallygood to be a five cost and, uh,
this does that.
He's really solid.
Imagine just destroying a, aCaptain Carter Lane or something
like that.
It's bad.

Alex (56:18):
This is my second 4.5 of the month, but for different
reasons, like this is definitelya four star card and I can see
it kind of going high.
I can see it having one of thehighest meta shares of the month
and it's not, thank God it's nota forecast first of all.
'cause by golly, what a disasterthat would've been.
It is a five cost.
I think part of the issue wasthat Glenn and the design team,
they sat down, they said, well,we need to make five costs

(56:41):
better.
We take a power off Za.
We take a power off Coin pool,we take a power off Galata.
But you know what?
It's the five drops that feelweak.
Well, you release the thingFirst Steps, which ultimately
was a pretty solid five drop.
I think most people can agree.
And now you have the Cosmo GhostRider.
Now here's the fun thing.
Hey guys, thanks for buying theAgent Carter.
Season pass.

(57:01):
Get wrecked.
Agent Carter, right?
Like it's like I think that thisis so hard.
I'm more, I'm way more scared ofthis than Stardust or whatever
the hell his name is.
This card scares me more becauseI think that this can naturally
be put into your deck withalmost no consideration.
This doesn't need to beoffensive.
It doesn't, sorry, it doesn'tneed to be defense.
It's always just a good play.

(57:21):
There's always gonna besomething to hit and you play
your opponent plays cards.
'cause those cards do stuff.
Disabling them all two of themis absolutely wild.
If you thought Red Guardian wasbad, this guy's worse.

Dekkster (57:34):
Yeah.
Yeah.
This is gonna be I think, reallyfrustrating to see and I think
he's gonna steal a lot of cubes'cause you could just also play
him on the last turn and kind ofjust shred your opponent's front
line.
And he might just solo carry alane.
It's kinda like juggernautsometimes, you know, he just
steals eight cubes.
Yeah.
'cause you're like, I win, myopponent doesn't expect
juggernaut.
I auto win this lane.
Like this is gonna be similar tothat.

(57:56):
He does cause five.
But if you play him in a deckthat has like a good one drop,
imagine just slamming this downand playing a demon like you
win.
So, yeah, it's true.

Alex (58:05):
And uh, it does pump surge.
It pumps Mr.
Fantastic First Steps, captainCarter.
A lot of stuff that'll besitting in the front line there.
The only thing and thing is, Iguess like Fanta would've like
by that time done its damage forthe most part.
Like you're basically justalleviating one additional proc
for Mr.
Fantastic.
But like, yeah, this goes hard.
Now I have a question.
Is this a Patriot buff?

Dekkster (58:26):
Is that cope?
The Silver lining?
The Silver lining.
It's a bit cope.
'cause your Patriot's probablyin the front line.
He's gonna get kicked.
No, he's

Alex (58:33):
in the front line.
Patriot's in the front line.
Well, at least

Dekkster (58:37):
prodigy's

Alex (58:37):
not,

Dekkster (58:39):
yeah.
Prodigy will be in the back.
Just cope even harder.
Yeah.
But yeah, I don't know man.
This is a scary one.
I think he's gonna be reallyfrustrating.
I, I'd almost give him a five,but I'm hesitant to Ooh.
But I feel like these numbersare so silly, man.
Like you don't actually know howgood a card is until you
actually mess around with it.
But that's, maybe I'll be acoward like you and I'll say

(59:00):
four and a half

Alex (59:02):
there.
That's the spirit.
I, okay.
First of all, I want you to knowthat like the only people that
take the star rating seriously.
Is everyone watching andlistening because they hold us
severely accountable to them.
So just know that I have stillnot let down, like if, if I,
I've gone loan a couple cardsand literally people have not
let it go for like three years.
So just rest easy, sir.

(59:23):
Yeah,

Dekkster (59:24):
I, I'm, I'm not a financial advisor.
I, I think this is like a four,but, all right.

Alex (59:29):
You're dropping down a four.

Dekkster (59:30):
It might be a five.
I don't know.
It's a four and a half, butlike, maybe it sucks.

Alex (59:37):
I will say that this card art is both ridiculously stupid
and awesome at the same time,and I'm not sure which side it
really is.

Dekkster (59:45):
It's omnibus.
Have you seen my omnibus sy?

Alex (59:47):
What?
I don't even know what wordyou're saying.

Dekkster (59:50):
Hold on.
Let me see if I can find it.

Alex (59:53):
Uh, Dexter's Gun for the audio listeners, Dexter is now
getting back in his chair.
He's now back in focus.
Oh my gosh.
What

Dekkster (01:00:02):
is that?
It's, my camera's flipped, butit says, uh.
Cosmic ghost writer.
Wow, that's actually prettycool.
It's a thick omnibus.
You don't have one.
Are you saying an anthology?
Omni Omnibus.

Alex (01:00:20):
Omnibus.
I have never heard that wordbefore.
Is it just'cause I don't readlots?

An omnibus is like a collection of comics.
Right.
So it'll have like, it's a comicbook.
It's like all the, so

Alex (01:00:33):
is it any different than an anthology?
Is an anthology just like thewritten word, not a comic book?

I have no clue.
I, I've just always heardomnibus.
It's called an omnibus.

Alex (01:00:42):
I suspect that chat and the comment section will let us
know.
What is that?
That is, I, do you know whatthat thing on the right, I wish
I never saw.
That's offensive on, on myright.
Your left if you're watching.
I'm excited.
I'll have to check that out,man.
Maybe I'll have to buy one.
I gotta like investigate them.
'cause I've been wanting to readmore comics.

(01:01:03):
The only comics I ever read arethe same ones.
I just like reading the sameones.
Do you like reading comics?
Can I make a suggestion to you?
Sure.
Kang only myself left toconquer.
It's my favorite comic.
It's my favorite.
Really?
Yeah.
My absolute.
If you've not read it yet, no.
If you get the opportunity, Ipromise you Kang only myself
left to conquer is God tier.

(01:01:24):
Absolutely God tier.
And that is gonna take ustransitioning into the seasonal
series of four cards.
We have a couple cards here totalk about, including a high
voltage card and air walker.
Two of the cards will bereleased on day one alongside
the season.
Pass in right shift and TerraX.
The tamer fire Lord comes outAugust 12th for some reason.
And then we have the air walkeras well.

(01:01:45):
Dexter, we're gonna get startedwith Redshift, and this is the
card that I have been mostexcited for in the series four
here, Redshift, I almost want togive five stars, but I'm only
gonna give four and a half.
I, you know what?
These four and a half this weekare not good.
I've never done this before.
I've never given so many halfstars in my entire career as a
Marvel Snap caster.
This is bizarre.

(01:02:05):
Yeah, but I'm gonna do it again.

I missed the last five minutes of what you were saying.
I was looking at King to conqueronly myself left to conquer$16
on Amazon.
Only seven left in stock.

Alex (01:02:17):
No, it's okay.
You don't have to listen to me.
Sometimes I, I tune out of Cozytoo and then he asked me a
question.
I'm like,

yes.
Okay.
Redshift, what do I think aboutRedshift?
Redshift?
Uh, I think it's gonna be reallygood, especially in Agatha.

Alex (01:02:31):
Hell yes.
Agatha's back baby.
That's like the only note Ihave.
Black Knight slash Ghost Riderslash Agatha is back.
Let's go.
That's my note.
Yeah,

I think, um.
It's gonna be nasty in that It'sso good.
And then it gives you a randomsix, right?

Alex (01:02:48):
Yeah.
We haven't even read the card.
Do you wanna read this one outfor the people?
Give like, give them like areally nice like OnlyFans voice.
Come on,

Redshift on Reveal.
Discard the leftmost card inyour hand to add a random card
with the same cost to your hand.
Is that good?
Yeah.
You didn't say the power.
It's a two three.
He's a two three.
I don't the words.
The voice.
Two.
Three.
Two energy.
Three power series.
Four card, Redshift.
Okay.
Now describe him.

(01:03:16):
Very muscular.
Little left to the imagination.
Two swords.
Kind of ugly, but that's allright.

Alex (01:03:24):
Yeah.
Okay.
That's pretty good.
That's pretty good.
I like how he's like, I'll putthe helmet on, but not the
shirt.

Yeah.
He said, I gotta show off thisfantastic body.
I've sculpted.
I'm just gonna wear a helmet andpants.
Maybe he skipped leg day orsomething.
Why is he wearing pants at thispoint?

Alex (01:03:39):
It's true.
It's true.
Just so you're suggesting hetakes the pants off as well.
That's, that's the Dextervariant.
Just no pants actually.
Well, he's

got, he's got something to hide.
I think he should have put onmore mask.
Well, that's, yeah, of courseyou have something

Alex (01:03:50):
to

hide.
That's why you wear pants.
He's, wait, what do you mean?
Oh, I, I I was implying likelegs not like a phallic uh,
object.

Alex (01:04:00):
Well, this, now we're really demonetized, so I mean, I
don't wanna like build it up toomuch.
But is this just the Naga, thecard?
Because usually discard goes tothe right, right?
Like swarms and apoch and stuff.
This guy's attacking the leftside.
So is it just purely Agatha?
What do you think?

No, I think he's good in all discard.
Maybe I'm missing something.
I feel like he's still gonna goin, in other stuff.
Sometimes you draw cards andthere're on the left sometimes.
I mean, you, the cards you draware on the right, but your
opening hand, you know, maybethe card you want to discard is
on the left, is what I mean.
It's true.
And you wanna get rid of it.
It's

Alex (01:04:34):
true.
So you Redshift, so like, let'ssay you Redshift on Reveal, your
apocalypse is on the left.
You Redshift, he jumps to theright where you bleed him on the
same turn.
On turn three.
So turn three is Redshift bleed.
Boom, boom.

Perfect.
I'm, I'm gonna call it C3.
Discard Swarm Gambit, Redshift,uh, uh, Cerebro.
That's it.
That's it.
Mystique.
Mystique.
Maybe Cage.
I don't know.
You play Luke Cage?
Yeah, but he doesn't have three.
I mean, it was kind of a joke,but the thing with C3 discard,

(01:05:07):
which I've tried a lot, which ismaybe not normal, that's a
sentence no one has ever said.
Uh, it's like you need blade tohit your swarm and sometimes he
just doesn't.
So I'm most excited for a C3discard to mess around with
this.
I don't think it's gonna be agreat deck, but I think it'll be
a fun deck.
I think this guy is going to bebest in Agatha.
Is he gonna be in some sort oflike consu deck Maybe.

(01:05:30):
I mean, discarding a, a consuand getting an extra six costs
is, is kind of cool.
Maybe some sort of big six.
Maybe even put Eson in there atthat point.
Because, yeah, because it'llpull that

Alex (01:05:41):
card.
Right.
I wanna mention something'causeI know that Agatha obviously
does not see much play at all,and there's a lot of people that
are watching that or listeninghave not really played Agatha.
It's important to note that oneof the key strengths of Agatha
is not just the power, but thefact that she's an additional
card in your hand.
She's like the only Chavezeffect, original Chavez effect
we have left.
Like she's the true deck thinnerof Marvel Snap, or she starts in

(01:06:02):
your hand, she's an extra cardin your hand.
And so Redshift discarding thatit technically thins your deck
outward.
Right?
So that's one thing about Aghathat kind of gives her a little
bit of an appeal.

Yeah.
It's uh, it's effectively likean 11 card deck.
Yeah.
And that increases the odds thatyou will find Redshift.
So if you are doing Black NightRedshift, you're almost
guaranteed like a massive blade.

Alex (01:06:26):
Yeah, that's absolutely true.
And that's gonna take us to thenext card in series four, which
is Ax the Tamer.
A three three that says Onreveal for each location,
shuffle a rock into the losingplayers deck.
I actually think this is prettycool.
I'm going three stars here.
Like, I'm not like crazy excitedabout it, but I don't think it's
a bad card.
I think it's like a mid todecent card and I think it's

(01:06:48):
gonna go well with the fantasticfour first step.
Dex, you gimme that look likeAlex's crack.
That's okay.
Let, let me finish'cause I'malready gonna top of, uh, the
Galactus first steps, which Iknow you hate already.
TerraX the Tamer, I suspectMichael Good's initiative
granting decks Dex that wanna bevery aggressive, that wanna win
locations for the Galactus firststeps.
'cause if you're playingaggressive, if you're playing
squirrel girls and doing allthis stuff for that Herold

(01:07:11):
Tarax, the tamer might just pumpthree cards into your opponent's
deck.

Do you remember, um,

Alex (01:07:17):
rock slide?
I do remember Rock slide or like

corg.
Yeah, those cogs exist.
Yeah.
I feel like they're both betterthan this, even in their current
state.
I think this sucks man.
I think this car's like reallybad.
I wish it was a three four.
I was, I like dark hawk.
I I miss the dark Hawk man.
Like he's not there anymore.
And uh, it's'cause theydestroyed rock slide.

(01:07:42):
And this is like, we got rockslide at home.
He used to be So you're sayingthis is pre rock slide?
Well he used to be a was he athree 5:00 AM I co Was he a
three five or a three?
Four That put two rocks in?
I don't remember.
I think he was a three

Alex (01:07:54):
five.
'cause he was a four.
He was a four five first.
Right.
Rock slide was a forecast.
Got dropped down to three andthen got neutered

a bunch of times He started three.
Three, I don't even know.
But this, uh, most time bestcase scenario, obviously you're
putting three rocks, but I thinkthe usual scenario is gonna be
like you give them one rock,maybe two rocks and you pump two
into your own deck.
And you're also shuffling yourown deck.
Maybe there's some sort of asynergy with WA or not wa to
with, uh, with Howard where youcould see your top card and you

(01:08:24):
don't like it.
So then you play TerraX and youshuffle it.
That's the only thing I, thatmight be some of the most

Alex (01:08:29):
insane cop I've ever heard in my entire life.

I think this card sucks.
I think it's really, really,I'll give it two you.

Alex (01:08:37):
Okay.
I have one line that I thoughtabout.
It's a bit of cope.
Listen for what it's worth.
Three's.
Three's probably maybe too high.
Okay.
Dark Hawk turned five.
Turn six.
Mystique TerraX.
Yeah.

I'd rather have rocks.
Slide down you dark Hawk on fiveand then you do mystique grand.
I just don don't think, why notdo that too?
Because that's too much energy.
I mean, you can run Grand Rocks,you could run it all.
Maybe it does go in a dark hawkdeck.
You're just adding even morerocks.

Alex (01:09:06):
Yeah, maybe.

I guess Corg TerraX rocks.
I'm gonna have to try it with agrand Master.

Alex (01:09:12):
Ugh.
Rocks lot.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I just,

I just wish, uh, he had a, like a, another stat
three three with shuffling arock is just not good in this
meta.
Especially when he is trying towin a location too.
Right.
You have to be winning thelocation.
Yeah.
Like what if he won his locationalso shuffled in a rock.
I think that'd be a little bitdifferent.

Alex (01:09:34):
Turn three Silver Surfer first steps.
Turn four TerraX, the tamer boomand you played squirrel Girl
turn one and some other bullshitturn two.
And so basically you have allinitiative and you just like,
double pump six rocks anotherdeck.

The more you talk about this card, the more I want
to give it a one instead of atwo.
I feel like it's so bad, dude.
I don't know.
Okay.

Alex (01:09:55):
Who's better?
TerraX, Tarax or uh, Baron Zebo.

BII think Baron Mordo is even better.
But I would also say I totallymeant Mordo.
I totally

Alex (01:10:04):
said the wrong Baron.
Yeah, I think Mordo might bebetter than this.
Wow.
Okay.
Uh, TerraX the Tamer or Galactofor steps.
Galacto is better.
Boom.
There's a win for G-Man.
There's a win for G-Man.
This is the worst card we'veseen today.
That's a good, no, I think, Ithink Fire Lord's worse than ax.
You think fire Lord's better?

Okay.
Fire Lord.
A four six on reveal.
Revive one of your discarded ordestroyed three cost cards here.
No, I think he's better.
He's also series four.
Um, I'm Wait, is he or was itcard above him?
Tamer.
I know what series four.
These

Alex (01:10:37):
are all series four.
We're on the series four sidenow they're all series

four.
Okay.
Okay.
Uh, yeah, I think, uh, I thinkhe's actually good.
What?
With who?
With the other card, we're gonnasee Air Walker, the Walker
story, the forecast card fromthe deck.
Yeah.
You wanna talk about these twotogether?
Yeah, I think they kind of worktogether.

Alex (01:10:56):
Okay.
So Air Walker is a three threethat reads when this is
destroyed, replace it with afour cost card from your hand or
your deck.
And fire Lord for a reminder isa four six.
So the curve works that says onReveal Revive one of your
discarded or destroyed threecost cards here.
So in theory you could like kidOmega, air Walker, fire Lord,

(01:11:18):
and get it all into some giantlike Infinity Loop.

I think these are somehow going to work in a
Phoenix Force deck and actuallybe good.

Alex (01:11:29):
So you're saying use the fire, so you're using Air Walker
as a tutor to pull the Phoenixforce out or to pull Mr.
Ne, like you want Air Walker to,to sneak a card out like that
forecast.
You need the Phoenix Force.
You need the, um, again, the,the, uh, the MR Negative or
whatever, like you think it's anadditional line as a tutor,
essentially.

Yeah,

Alex (01:11:50):
to play a four on

three, but also he is good.
Maybe like Dormammu.
Okay, that's fair.
Dorm's probably good with him aswell.
Uh, and then there's, there's apretty good four seven that was
printed this season as well.

Alex (01:12:04):
Screw that card.

So I feel like maybe that could be good.
Maybe I'm coping, but yeah, Ifeel like Phoenix force is
always very close to doing somecheeky stuff.
Maybe fire Lord like isn'tnecessarily great with it.
Like reviving one of yourdiscard or destroyed cards.
Does he really?
Earnest spot and destroy.

(01:12:27):
I gave voles cards two.

Alex (01:12:30):
I'm skeptical of cards.
So you gave TerraX to three Ithink teac.
Oh man.
This is where like, I know, seethis is where Alex can, can go
off the rails a bit.
I think Tarax might see moreplay than Fire Lord and Air
Walker.
Really?
There's a chance.
Not a big chance.
Maybe it's because I'm justreally hoping to play Dark Hawk
again.
I really wanna play Dark Hawkagain.

(01:12:51):
I really want to, and maybe it'sa little bit of cope here, like
doing wrong.
All these cards in the grandscheme of things suck sch nuts
compared to some of the otherones we've talked about today.
Like these are dog watercompared to some of the cars
we've talked about today.
But like some of them, but like,I don't know man, I think two
stars is probably fair for fire,Lord, and uh, air Walker.
What do you think?

Oh, I can't help but feel like this is gonna be
cracked somehow.
Revive, if someones gonna figureout the

Alex (01:13:17):
secret cheat code.

Yeah.
Like this could pull back adiscard three Co.
You can target your discard andthen pull this back.
Is that, I feel like that'sgotta have some sort of cheeky
interaction that I just haven'tthought of yet.
So maybe that's the problem.
So like, so you're

Alex (01:13:31):
saying it's like the Redshift into discarded
something, three costs thatbrings, comes back with fire,
Lord.

Yeah.
Yeah, like a card you want to,uh, discard or eat and then you
just bring it back.
Like that's good.
But I also, I guess I thoughtElixir would also be kind of
cracked and he, no one reallyplays him that much.
Wait, hold on.
You

Alex (01:13:51):
thought Elixir was gonna be good?
Yeah.
With, uh, with Kid Omega.
And you've been making fun of methis whole time about your like,
my valuations of cards.
And you went high on Elixir.

Yeah, rightfully so.
I think, the making fun of youpart, I think, uh, Elixir's good
with the Black Panther Kid Omegastuff.
I think no one's actually givenit's because honestly, like

Alex (01:14:13):
when I didn't buy Kid Omega and then when Kid Omega
finally came out, I added it tomy collection and then just
never played it.
Like, I literally have notplayed a single game of Kid
Omega.
I

feel like he's just like a poop stain on my, uh, my
collection.
Even though like you can get himin a pack now, it is just don't
wanna mess with him, yeah.
It's like he's been skunked on,do you just throw him away?

Alex (01:14:33):
Yeah, for the same reason why, honestly, like I've not
been playing despite the factthat I'm like one of the biggest
evil fans on the planet.
I've not been playing much clowncar because like, just the
connotation of playing fantasticcar.
You know, I, I, you play it andpeople just rock at you and
you're just like, if I feel itman, I feel it in my soul
anyway.
So you're higher on air walkerand fire lord than I am.

(01:14:53):
But you know what, sir?
This has been an incredibly longpodcast and, um, should we
mention, we gotta mention Paxbefore we end it.
We gotta mention Pax because,okay.
You and I will be at

PAX Prime.
Will we not?
Oh, I thought you meant likeSnap pax.
Um, yes, we will.
Is it?
I thought, is it Pax Prime?
I thought it was just PAX West.

Alex (01:15:12):
PAX Prime was the original name.
Cool.
People call it Pax Prime.
I guess I'm not cool.
PAX West Seattle.
Yes.
So, uh, Dexter and I will be atPAX West Seattle.
Perhaps look it out to keep aneye out in our like YouTube
community feeds or Twitter orwhatever, because maybe we'll do
a little, potentially a littlemeet and greet.
Little meet and greet if youguys wanna

hang out and hug.
Uh, yeah.
I mean, we're talking with RyanHartman, but he is, uh, I guess
he's like busy or something, buthe's possibly one of busiest
guys, you know?

Alex (01:15:42):
Yeah.

We might do a meet and greet, or maybe not, but it'd be
like embarrassing if the linewas like five people, you know?
It's just me signing your, yourchest.
Uh, we could do

Alex (01:15:53):
that.
Yeah.
We could

just sign each

Alex (01:15:54):
other's chest and just call it a day.
Yeah.
That makes perfect sense.
Why are we, why are we evendoing a meet and greet at all?
Then we can, we can just arrangethat on our own time.
We could just do that in thehotel.
Oh, perfect.
That's perfect.
I'm glad, I'm glad this was donepublicly.
This conversation was done.
The, these plans were best madepublic.
This is fantastic.
But yeah, uh, we're gonna be atPAX Prime if you happen to be

(01:16:15):
going, uh, Dexter and I will bethere Friday and Saturday and,
uh, keep an eye on our socialshows because there might be an
opportunity to do like a littlemeet and greet or like a signing
or something like that, uh, atsome point on Friday or
Saturday.
We're still trying to organizethat.
But outside of that, guys, Ihave to tell you honestly how
much I appreciate Dexter.
'cause Dexter took time out ofhis busy schedule at the last

(01:16:38):
minute to come on this podcast.
And honestly, this has been arefreshing opportunity to talk
Marvel Snap with an absolute Godgamer, one of the highest ranked
gamers in Marvel, Snap, Dexter.
You're a funny guy, but you knowwhat?
You're also incredibly talented,and that's not necessarily
something that I think you don'treally pump your chest about.
You don't really talk about yourrank and your skill, but you are

(01:16:58):
legitimately one of the mosttalented card game card game
players I've ever seen.
And I watch your stream all thetime and I'm continuously
impressed at how good you are atthis game and how I, I like
literally how like, criticallike you think about individual
plays, how well you describethem.
And if you're not subscribed toDexter on YouTube or on Twitch,
if you don't follow along, Ihave links in the pin comment

(01:17:19):
and the description down belowwhere I implore you to check out
his content.
'cause honestly, dude, you'reone of my absolute favorite
creators.
I told you, I, dude, I told youthis when we first spoke back in
like dec, like was it Decemberwhen I did like that spotlight
on Creator's video, when likeSnap first launched?
I told you I, I used to watchyour Hearthstone videos, dude.
And so when years you came intothe Snap World, I was excited

(01:17:41):
'cause I knew you from her stoneand now you're here.
And dude, I think that you'veabsolutely crushed it.
So thank you for being on thispod.
But most importantly guys, yougotta check out Dexter if you
haven't already.
He's legit one of the goats ofMarvel Snap.
Thank you so much for watching,guys.
We sincerely appreciate you guyslistening and watching this
Marvel Snapchat podcast.
It really does mean a lot to us,and we'll see you next week.

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