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Cozy Snap (00:00):
What's going on guys?

(00:00):
And welcome to yet anotherepisode of the Snapchat.
We're gonna be closing out Aprilwith a big one.
We have Hydra Stomper.
The snap packs are on the way.
We have a big OTA Alex, how youdoing today, man?
What's going on?
And welcome to yet anotherbeautiful week of Marvel Snap.

Alexander Coccia (00:15):
I am doing great buddy.
And you know what, it is abeautiful week here in Canada as
well.
The sun is finally out.
The kids are playing outside,which is great.
I got the notes done for theSnapchat and like peace and
quiet.
'cause usually there's likescreaming and yelling and like
kids body slamming each other ortoys into the ground of over our
heads.
I'm sure if you've beenlistening for a while, you hear
like the noises of like stuffhitting our walls and stuff

(00:35):
while we're recording.
You can actually hear it rightnow.
But what I will tell you is thatthrough outside.
It's been fantastic.
It, it, listen by fantastic.
I mean like, it's 19 degreesCelsius and it feels great.

Cozy Snap (00:46):
Listen, I just got back from looking at a couple
new cars.
I'm finally gonna I've had aJeep forever for a long time,
for like eight years.
And you know, it's something,the most kid friendly car.
And so gonna be grabbing a a newone.
And bro, I was there with my sontoday and I, I could only think.
Of one memory being there withmy son and it's the classic Al.

(01:08):
If you guys don't know if you'renewer listeners, Alex, what
happened when you brought yourkids over to to test out some
new new Kias?

Oh no.
Okay, so I think you're talkingabout when we, when we went to
the Toyota dealership and myson, he had oh man, he had
etched into the side of ourvehicle with a rock math
questions because I guess he wasusing it like an iPad or
something.
And then, so when we were tryingto figure out like we were gonna
buy a new minivan.
We brought our Kia Sorento 2016baby, all the way into Toyota to

(01:38):
get like evaluated as a trade-inand the guy was looking at it.
He is like, oh, those are likedeep scratches.
I'm like, yeah, yeah, they'rethanks.
And then while we're are youtalking about the one where,
where my son pood his pants in,in the dealership?
Yeah, bro, of course I'm talkingabout the Pooh in the pants in
the dealership.

Cozy Snap (01:53):
That's my favorite

one.

Cozy Snap (01:54):
That's a classic.
There's

so many stories, but like that's a

Cozy Snap (01:55):
classic.
That's a good

callback.

Cozy Snap (01:57):
That's a coach, a classic man.
For sure.
No, I love it.
Like any parent, if you, if youhave kids, man, I tell you what
guys like I, I remember going atBen Broad, he had a, a Tesla,
and I go in, I'm like, man, it'scool.
Tesla man.
And I like, look on the side.
I'm like, bro, what, whathappened?
Like, what are you doing to thisthing?
Like, and he is like, bro, thoseare my kids.
Like, those are they, they,they've a, they treat it like a,
a, an army warn vehicle.

(02:17):
I mean, it looks like it wentthrough NAM and it's, it's it's
just part of the job.
It's part of being a dad.
Right.
But I I couldn't stop thinkingabout the story of you there
anyway, man.
But we have a cool man.
We got Snapbacks coming out.
This is gonna be a kind of aweird week.
'cause what it's like half andhalf, right?
So like the beginning of theweek we've got the traditional
spotlight system, and then I.
You know what?
If you don't update your game,you can keep it for a little bit

(02:38):
and bam, we then have Snap Hacksofficially coming to Marvel
Snap.
So we're gonna talk about today.
Is that gonna be enough?
What is that gonna look like?
Alex, we know what we're talkingabout over here.
What are we talking about onyour side of the Snapchat?

Cozy on my side of Snapchat we're gonna be
discussing Strange Supreme andwhether or not it makes the cut
to be the card you want to pullfrom the Cashs before the next
set of snap packs come out ornext set of snap packs.
They're not here yet until thenext week.
We're also will be talking aboutthe best cards in each
individual snap pack to see whatare the Chase cards you're gonna
want to go after.
And then as always, our Snapchatmailbag.

Cozy Snap (03:11):
Well buddy, we've been here before several times.
We have a move card that comesout.
We get.
Slightly excited for the cardactually.
We get overly excited and thenevery time it does not live up,
oh, usually does not live up towhat it had what we thought the
potential was.
But you know what Hydro stomperyou in particular, were pretty
excited about this one in the,in the pre-evaluation.
And I am, but I also am a bithesitant about a couple things.

(03:36):
Now, I will say that let's gobreak down the card, but I will
say that there's some things Irealized about the card that I
like.
Now even further looking intoit.
But we've got a three cost, twopower car.
Three cost is the name of thegame typically for these move
cards.
Ongoing plus one power for eachtime.
One of your cards moved thisgame.
Hydro Stomper.
Wanna talk about syns?

(03:56):
Let's star ratings.
What do you got?

You know what?
I'm gonna stay at my 4.5.
I know it's high.
It's high.
Yeah, I know.
I'm really high compared toothers.
I might drop it to four.
The only reason why I'mconsidering dropping it to four
is because.
I don't wanna talk synergies andstuff, but I wanna talk about a
specific problem that I thinkHydro Stomper has one very
specific problem and it's at thebest version right now of move a
very highly competitive deck ismove balance.

(04:22):
And I don't think Hydro Stomperneeds to be there.
Like, I think there are carsthat doesn't go in the best
deck.

Cozy Snap (04:26):
Yeah.
And there's, there's cars thatare three costs.
Like, just off the top of myhead, there's cards that I would
play and, and move, bounce, thatyou could get the bounce effect
off.
And have value there still aswell.
Like Sage or Sage or Yeah, Sage.
Right, exactly.
So like that.
Agreed.
I will say this, I wanna openwith this, this is one thing I
really like about Hydro Stomper,that at first, if you're not

(04:46):
like, I don't know, just doingthe math, the ongoing ability of
it is super interesting.
'cause I love for once we havethis move card that could be
played later on in the game.
That to me is really interestingbecause, you know, so many times
we have like Hercules.
Mme.
Webb, if you don't draw them,you're screwed.
Or you have to get them out andthen you have to do a bunch of

(05:06):
stuff and then maybe you get thevalue.
I do like that this thing hasthe value after the fact.
Three two is a pretty low statthough, so like getting a lot,
you know, even four moves, whichis easily plausible.
It is a three six, so it's notlike it's gonna go like crazy
over value, right?
At times.
But there are cards in differentsituations.
You know, that you coulddefinitely get things going

(05:28):
crazy at times.
I'm like, oh, it'd be cool man,if this was, any cards moved.
Then that way it's like, allright, if you get the matchup
and it's a little bit of acounter move card or whatever
plenty to counter this thing.
I think we see a lot of clogthis week.
I think we see a lot of thingsthat can.
Just kind of hurt.
Move decks in general.
Move decks do have a lot ofweaknesses to them.
That's one thing we know.
I think we're seeing more andmore that Snap is a game of

(05:49):
counters at time.
Right.
And, and so we see that on newcard weeks more than ever.
But yeah man, I'm gonna go, I'mgonna go middle of the pack.
I think I'm gonna go just withthat even three star.
I think it has a lot ofpotential for it.
I think there's a lot that cango against it though.
And my worry always is, youknow, we're long away from where
vulture decks are like.

(06:10):
Awesome.
That mid range value, the tempoplay, and I, I feel like it's
not a so-on issue when like hewas the three cost, but three is
just, it is a tough bit of costto fit in there.
Like, I like this guy better asa two, one, I would've loved him
as a two, one, I.

Yeah.
So basically exactly whatGoliath is.
Yeah, I had that exact thoughtwhere like, if we want a moving
scaler, a moving ongoing scaler,almost every single archetype
has one.
You have Mobius, you haveGoliath would be the most recent
example.
Yep.
And they have the two slot incommon, whereas Hydros, Soper is
a three.
Now, the reason why I like,okay, so what I said like four
or four and a half.
The, the thing is, is like Idefinitely guarantee that this

(06:48):
is gonna be a good individualcard.
Like individually, you're gonnasee very high power outputs from
hydro stomper.
The number is gonna get verybig, but the question is.
Is that number getting bigenough to warrant a new form of
play style for move?
Because move despite being goodis never really meta relevant.
'cause I, I just, it's just aplay style that most people just

(07:08):
don't want to engage with.
Yeah.
Remember we recently had nerfsto dagger.
We had nerfs to the frika humantorch shell, which is the
balance move shell, which now isactually even using toxin thanks
to the doc the toxin buff in theOTA which we'll talk about
later, but like.
Those decks and those highperforming decks of which are
generally high ELO decks, theydon't want hydro stomper.

(07:29):
And so you're gonna be leaningon decks that are very
traditional.
Like, okay, I hyd all,everything Hydro Stomper gets
plus seven off one heimdall playor whatever it is.
And then, you know, Herculeskick someone else.
And like there's, there'ssynergistic cards and Hydro
stomper is gonna be a statsmachine, but.
Is that enough for an archetypethat generally has not really

(07:52):
broken the ceiling of MarvelSnap's, kind of you know, just
play rate.
People just don't wanna play,move.

Cozy Snap (07:57):
Yeah.
Well, like we talked about thathow many times on the Snapchat
we have things like move, bounceand whatnot that are in the meta
and people still don't play themright because.
Because of the complexity.
I mean, Phoenix Force was agreat example of that.
Like, I think me and you youspecifically a avoided Phoenix
force for a long time, right?
'cause you're like, I just don'twanna mess, I don't wanna go
down that rabbit hole.
I'd rather just play big card,big win.

(08:17):
And you're right, it's a lot,you know, it, it's it, to put it
in something like rivals terms.
I think the best way to say it'slike you could play Scarlet
Witch that auto him and, anddoes, you know, good DPS or you
could go with Spider-Man andlearn complexity and crazy stuff
and do a little bit better,right?
So like the skill ceiling.
I think is what the term is herefor.
Move X is very high and thereward is high if you can do the
payoff.

(08:38):
But a lot of people like moresimplistic approaches.
I do think that hydro stomper intraditional move will kind of
make his way in there, movebalance, not so much.
I'm gonna be curious what hedoes on that front.
You know, so there are somereally cool vehicles to get him
going.
You know, I love, I love theidea of these cheap little one
causes, plays like the, goingback to even a Ron near Ghost
Spider.

(08:58):
And getting small buildups andnot going for like the big home
run play, you know, the humantorch, that's a a billion power.
The dagger that's like just theclassic like, Hey, what happens
if you iron fist a vulture?
You get that going.
You have good tempo play and youjust kind of finish, you know
what I mean?
Like Professor X doesn't stopthat anymore.
You storm is a, is differentlike from the old days almost,

(09:19):
right?
Like what does that look like?
I'm gonna be curious how thatdeck performs in this kind of
environment that we're in.

No, absolutely.
That is exactly where HydroStompers likely to shine.
Right.
And I, I guess what I wanna sayis that like, even though I'm
relatively high on the power ofthis card, I wanna be very clear
when I see the hydro stomperslike a four or four and a half,
I think that that is itsindividual power level as a card
being released to Marvel Snap.
I.
I'm not gonna say that youshould go out and get it day

(09:47):
one.
Like that's not, because ifyou're not a move player or if
the move shells that are usingHydro Stomp or you know you're
missing Hercules, you're missingother cards, or you just don't
wanna play that style of deck,then Hydro Stomper is not gonna
go anywhere else.
You know what I mean?
And so like, it might be areally good card that's actually
not worth getting because it isniche, but its archetype is like

(10:09):
I can't think of the word.
Polarizing maybe is the word.
Yeah.
Where there's people that playit and people that like it and
people that just don't want toengage with it.
It's like, like toxin forinstance.
Yeah.
Like in the OTA recap will talkabout, but like toxin, I don't
even think needed a buff.
Yeah.
But he got it.
Maybe it's like, hey, we justneed to give this archetype
something to get people back onit.
And hydros stopper is aninfusion of power to a very

(10:30):
traditional style of move thatjust doesn't see play anymore.
It almost reminds me of StarBrands release.
Where Star Brand came out andwas it going to resurrect Saron?
And it didn't.
But the problem wasn't Starbrand, it was Saron.
It was the archetype enablerthat had to get changed.
And now it's actually a top 10deck.
So with Hydro Stomper, I don'tknow if the stats or if Hydro

(10:52):
stompers the problem for thatshell, it might very well be
that Irania needs a buffer.
Mme.
Webb needs something or you knowwhat I mean?
The supporting cast needs tohelp Hydros Stopper perform.

Cozy Snap (11:03):
Yeah, no, I agree.
I think that that's gonna bethe, the main thing to look.
You know, look out for it.
Is those kind of, we're, we'restarting to see that way more.
And I think when we started Snapin the early days, like we, we
didn't really like identify thatthere's these like, key cards
that really are the engine ofthese decks.
And now it's obvious when theyare.
It's funny too, you brought upthe OTA, I mean, dude on the
OTA, you know, we'll talk aboutit.

(11:23):
That's our next subject.
We'll get to it, but it's likeyou look at scream, okay, you
could tell that they tamed hairdown a bit because of that
potentially.
And then you know, to your pointtoo, they tamed a couple other
cards that are gonna have someimpact with Hydra.
I wanna talk about one placethat could be interesting with
him that I'm not sure youbrought it up last time.
I thought it was a, a, a, a goodtake when we did start talking
about him as a card.

(11:44):
But also it's like, not justher, but the, the, the plethora
of cards like her.
I think it's interesting that wedo have a chance that there's
like a night crawler, Jeff Silkmaybe maybe that's a control
deck, maybe it's not.
But like this idea of like justa bunch of value cards that can
move.
Plus this guy that can beslapped at the end because then

(12:04):
it makes sense to have a threecost that you could play even on
turn six.
'cause you have all these other,you know, very low cost cars and
all of a sudden you have silkjumping around, you have nine
crawl go.
You have so much movementhappening and then you're
playing down a hydros stopperthat's maybe a 3 9, 3 8.
That's a world where I think hecould work in more of these plug
and place dials.

Absolutely.
And I think that one of thethings that this OTA did very
specifically in relation toHydro Stomp, I know we're all
over the, we're like merging thetwo topics a little bit.
Yeah.
But I think that scream is gonnabe more targetable with Red
Guardian.
And so as a result, coming intothis next week, if you're gonna
be running a hydro stomp or silkdeck, which I think is gonna be
exactly where I'm going with

Cozy Snap (12:40):
it a hundred percent.
Yeah.

You're gonna want to have red guardian in
that shell because scream dogscomes down on turn two, you pump
it with red guardian easy,right?
Yeah.
And then you get to do yourmoves.

Cozy Snap (12:49):
Playing the counter in the deck archetype is always
like what you do, move one on,on release because you know
people are gonna play it.
And then you can also feast offa little bit.
Obviously, you know, we, wespoke of Dale being the, the big
time finisher.
We've got the kind of moversdeck.
We have a bounce deck that wedon't think it'll fit in, but
that's definitely a home that itcan be played in.
We have cards that I don't thinkare gonna ultimately end up

(13:10):
being in there.
Like the werewolf by nights Ithink is a very cool concept.
You got two threes.
I, you know, maybe I, but again,you could play'em late.
So it's like, okay, that's kindof a cool, a cool aspect and
there's plenty of low onreveals.
I mean they tone down cats inAmerica, Falcon you know, but
it's, you know, you've got thatshield that could get a little
bit movement going right off thebat as well.

(13:30):
There's a lot of ways to getsome movement going.
Not to mention locations too,just being this guy's, you know,
really ally.
So again, I like hydro Stomper.
I think he's got a lot of coolthings.
I.
It's a, it's a, it's funny thathe's coming out on the week of
snap packs.
Right.
You know, we'll talk about thata a bit more as well.
But any, anything else here on,on hydros?
Stuper you wanna highlight?

Yeah, I'll say that like cards like Jeff and
vision, like traditional goodcards.
I haven't seen much play mightbenefit here.
It's also worth noting thatCaptain Marvel, I wonder how
this interaction will work ifshe moves at the end of the
game.
Does it actually plus one hydrosSoper still, even though the,
the game has ended?
And will it actually account forthe plus one on hydros Soper in
the victory kind of calculation?

(14:12):
I think that's kind of notable.
It's also worth noting that it'svery good with the spotlight
cash keys.
Cards, sorry.
In Irania and Mme.
Webb are both the spotlightcaches and I believe you will
have 48 h 48 hours before you'reforced to update your client to
the Snap Pack model.
I think that's the intention ofsecond dinner.
I don't know if it's beenofficially communicated yet, but

(14:33):
just a heads up, if you want touse your spotlight keys to get
hydro Soper, I think you have 48hours to do so before you are
forced to update your client.
So that's something you can keepan eye out for.
But overall, like I, I thinkthis is gonna be a good card.
I just wonder if.
The archetype is gonna be ableto kind of rise.

Cozy Snap (14:49):
You've got Mme.
Webb, you've got Hercules.
You have these like bit more oflike investment for greedy power
in a sense of like mega valuingthe the hydros stopper.
You know, we're gonna see alittle bit of that.
Who is, who is more likely tomake the cut, Madam or Hercules.

You know what Hercules, the nice thing about
the hydro stompers,'cause it'songoing, Hercules comes down on
three that then activates yourmoves throughout the game and
you can close, well even on turnfive for instance, you can play
your hydro stomper and get theongoing power then ol into
whatever that Hercules kind ofresets everyone.
Hercules is, randomness is kindof weird.
I can see Hercules kind of beingthe play on three

Cozy Snap (15:26):
I.
So that's what I'm thinking.
I'm like, there's a world, youstart looking at some of these
interactions, like let's, I,we're gonna call it ease, but
let's say one is like nightcrawler.
Okay?
Two, you've got silk, you playHercules on silk.
Okay?
So silk moves once.
Then you just try to do as muchmovement as you can between
silk, Hercules and whatever elseyou have.
Your sleeve here, right?

(15:47):
Whether that's, you know,vulture and activated cards or
this is more of your traditionaldeck.
You would have to think withHercules, with silk, with let's
say night crawler and hercule,like, I think that hydro stopper
could get to some pretty seriouspower.
Like, like if that curves outthe right way.
I like it because, you know, thething that's bad about Hercules
is you don't know where he isgonna end up putting the cards

(16:08):
or whatever.
Well, cool.
At the end of the game, you havethis masked up.
Three 10, whatever, and then youcan have that as your wing
condition on the on the lanethat you need it.

You know what's funny to think about
though?
Like vulture's a three costvulture gets really big.
So is hydro Soper really chasingpower or is it chasing the fact
that you can play that powerlate whereas vulture can't?
Because I think Vulture willoutperform hydros.
Stuper power wise, right?
For sure.
For

Cozy Snap (16:33):
sure.
Three, nine, then goes to three.
Yep.
Hmm.
Interesting.
I think it's definitely, thatmakes me wonder.
It's, it's the fact that it'songoing.
Like, dude, if Vulture was anongoing card, like, hello,
goodnight.
Like, it, the, it it is.
That is a good point.
It is.
It's not that you're tracingpower, it's that you could place
power later.
And I, I think that's prettyadvantageous for it.
I mean, and, and dude, how, howdo we not talk about it?

(16:54):
Like the, I'm telling you man,the hy note please, that you can
get off with this card.
This is where you can obviouslyhave to play'em earlier, but
man, you go like hydro stomperand, and, and dagger on turn
five, bro, that's a, that's abig chunk of cheese coming down.
That's a lot of power.

It's a great variant, by the way.
I know that's not what you wantme to comment on.
No, but this is a great variant.

Cozy Snap (17:14):
I appreciate it.
I do.
This is, yeah, this was one ofthose cards that I bought.
And I was like, you know what,it was like a hundred dollars
bank or whatever, God.
And I was like, yeah, it's nevercoming back.
And I, I wanna be one of theonly ones with this hydell.
And then they, then they did thewhole collection collector's
vault stuff.
Anyway.
Yeah.
So I, I, I think I don't wannaundermine Hydell finally having

(17:35):
like a really cool combo playthat we've more or less been
waiting for.
I mean, yeah, vulture all thatcan do that, but I just feel
like he, he's cool'cause he canhold down yet another lane that
you can set up early.

But it is still tricky with this like hyd
doll move play.
It's like it's high, it's hardto put power, right?
Yeah.
Like, it's like, you know what Imean?
And that's kind of the trickything.
Like maybe Hercules can displacesomething, but, and it's really
hard to do that time dollitself.
Yeah.
Yeah.

Cozy Snap (17:59):
Like that's the thing, it's like the so on
plate, they're all threevulture.
Hi Hercules.
Hydros.
Stuper.
If a hydros Stuper was two, oh,it would be so perfect, man.
I would love it.
I'm

sorry bro.
But does the rost only go left?
Like I don't get it.

Cozy Snap (18:10):
I guess so, bro.
I guess, yeah, I guess.
I guess like, you know, he's aGod, but he doesn't, he did, he
does.
Just doesn't know how to go.
Right.
I I It's a bummer.
Yeah.
And we all know who's definitelynot gonna get play with hydro
Stomper coming out 2099.
I just wanted to bring him up.

Yeah.
I mean, it's nice to bring himup every once in a while.
We kind of forget that heexists.
Just

Cozy Snap (18:30):
remind us that he's in the game.
Yeah.
Than that looking around reallynot that many other cards that
you'd want to go ahead and get'em in there.
I do want to give my.
My monthly yearly, Dr.
Strange needs to be better inthis game.
Shout out to second dinner.
Just wanna, just wanna pop thatin there real quick if I can.
Anything else to close out?
Are you ready to move on?
My God,

I'm ready to move on.
I mean, we've been borderlinetalking about the OTA recap the
entire time.
Yeah.
Somehow

Cozy Snap (18:56):
let's go in and talk about the O Ts.
So guys, OTA, Alex and I, yetagain.
We called some changes.
We expected some changes.
Now some of these aren't sobold.
We had a feeling my friend,that.
Captain Carter would so we knewan adjustment was gonna happen
to Captain Carter.
We knew she was way too bad.
Like there's one certainty inlife, death taxes, and if a
seasoned card a seasoned passcard's not good, they're going
to buffet, they're gonna buffetsoon.

(19:18):
Infinity de Ultron, we knew thatwas gonna happen.
We also called the Nerf to SamWilson, but we just thought that
power wasn't gonna be a bigenough difference, but they did
go that route.
So Captain Carter, four, threeto three, two, we could start
there.
Clear winner.
I mean, like that, that is themost obvious winner that you get
in terms of where you could playher, the value that you could

(19:39):
play her, the way she works.
Like this was an OTA that buffedlike 10 things for the card,
even though it was just one costdown two power.

Yeah, it, it was one of those things like
quite simply when we were goinginto the season, it was hard to
establish how hard the macroconsideration of Agent Carter
was, or Captain Carter, I shouldsay.
Sorry, like is it, was it gonnabe hard to set up the board
position as it was how you haddumb dumb dug in as well, which
was gonna come and again, it wasanother card.
We have another card coming outin the future, which we'll talk

(20:07):
about next week.
Right.
Which is all focused on like.
You know, where you are on thefield to play.
And it was more than maybe theanticipated, that macro
consideration was more, it was alittle more awkward to set it up
and it makes all sense.
It goes to a three cost and isit, is it, it's it's a better
card, but it's still like notinsane.
Yeah.
Because it relies on its powerto be impactful and naturally in

(20:30):
Silver Surfer it's really good,but you'd hope it can, you know,
get beyond just silver Surfer.

Cozy Snap (20:34):
Do you want more or less of these, like playing for
the back line frontline kind ofstuff?

I don't love it.
I don't love any, I don't thinkit's like a great design.
Like it's fine.
It's, it's okay.
It's not like insulting oranything, but it's kind.
I don't love it.
No.

Cozy Snap (20:46):
Isn't it funny whether it be movies, video
games, whatever, that like,original designs are always peak
and then they try to add stuffand usually like, eh, I like the
old stuff.
Like we looked at Activate thatway.
We've looked at, you know, this,this new mechanic.
It's like, well just gimme,gimme the Good Old fashioned on
Reveal ongoing.
Like that's what stands the testof time.
I actually saw a Captain Carterremade.

(21:07):
In oblivion.
Remaster.
I have to say, bro, as gamersthis last week, we feasted.
Tell me Alex, that you, youwalked the planes of Ariel and
of o of oblivion.

I did as soon as it was announced.
It was such a great shadow droptoo.
What I did was I made mycharacter What elf, what?
El Thief.

Cozy Snap (21:26):
I, dude, I knew you were gonna be a what Elf you.
You have what?
Elf written all over you.
Can I tell you something though?
I'm usually a what?
Elf.
Okay.
Here's the thing, bro.
I ban myself from picking darkelf.
What?
Elf and Britain, those are thethree I typically pick.
I, I, I, I pay myself.
I always pick a

Bri mage.
I've always been a Bri mage.
I decide to change it up and go,what else?
This time

Cozy Snap (21:44):
I like, bro, I, okay.
So I went, I went high elf, man.
I went, if you guys don't knowoblivion, first of all, download
the game is incredible.
Get lost in the sauce.
It, it's, to me, I think corestaple.
The elder scroll series havealways been the most as a hobby.
Video games has, has always beena way for me to escape reality
and reset right before it was myjob.
I, that has been recaptured,bro.

(22:06):
I was trying to explain this tomy wife, how I.
Living nostalgia through a gameand through a moment of a game
is one of the most like insanethings that we get to do as
gamers.
Like something will happen inoblivion and it'll put me back
in the past of when I played itwhen I was younger and it's,
it's from the music to maybeeven dialogue.
Like it's so cool.
The music.
Hmm.

Oh, I could, the music brought me back in
time.
Like that opening sequence withthe camera pans around the city
and stuff.
And the music is, is soincredible.
The voice lines were coming backto me as well, and Todd will
bring you back in time.
You know what it did for me, itbrought me back to the time
where like, I remember havingoblivion on my pc.
I.
I remember going to like nexusmods and stuff and trying to get
like texture packs and like, ohyeah, HDR Bloom packs and like

(22:49):
modding the game like crazy.
I had the game was like a fourgig install, but I had like 300
gigs of add-ons,

Cozy Snap (22:55):
bro.
They had Patrick Stewart, I meanlike how, who else can you ask
for?
There's a documentary, bro.
It's from 2005, so go back and,and watch it.
It's on YouTube.
It's the Making of Oblivion andit was just so cool to see.
Bro.
I feel like they just don't makegames like they used to.
Man, I, maybe that's a boomertake kind of thing, but I just,
I feel like.
The love and care and, and, andthe way that it, it's been pro,

(23:16):
I mean, Starfield say what itis, it wasn't Elder Scrolls, but
all I know is man, they nailed aremaster.
It was so, it, there's nothingquite like, like more wind was
my childhood and then this evenmore so.
But yeah, dude, I haven't gottenfar.
You know what else I realized ishow much time you have as a kid.
Like I used to blow throughthis.
I would, I would complete theThieves Guild in one run and now

(23:36):
I'm like, alright, I'm gonna goon one cave mission.
Get distracted and there's twohours and I'm done.

Took me three days to get out of the sewers,
man.
And then once I got out thesewers, instead of doing the
mission, I did what I always do.
I just like, I'm like, I'm gonnafind something.
Oh yeah.
And go in it like, so I just ranand like found like something
went down lake.
You go to the sewer, what'scalled,

Cozy Snap (23:55):
you go in that sewer by the lake.
Yeah, yeah.
Oh, of course man.
You gotta go in there.
Of course you gotta go.
I went in, no, dude, I, Istarted out, there's a ma I went
to the.
The, the Arc made the guild inImperial City and she was like,
Hey, go, go, go to this.
She's like, go to this cave forme.
I have one thing to go.
And I go there and it's like,you need to go to 12 Bandit
camp.
I'm like 12.
Like, like it goes.
That's the best part though,man.

(24:15):
You sit on one thing and it'sjust like a, a, a chain of
reactions.
But yeah, I started theFighter's Guild.
That's where I'm at.
I'm like four hours in, butit's.
Oh, oh.
It just, it hits, man.
Nice, nice.
It hits hard.

Yeah.
The only, I I, I've noticed likesome hitching and like some like
technical stuff a little bit.
Which, yeah, a little bit.
Right.
But I, it's still fantastic.
It's like, it's a reallyinteresting, like, it's super
nostalgic, but like, I dunno ifyou saw it talking about like,
random games and stuff.
Expedition 33.
Yeah.
If you're talking about a gamethat like is made with heart and
soul.
Oh yeah.
I'm only about two hours intoit.
But like Chef's Kiss.

(24:46):
Oh yeah.
And this is the type of game,like that combat, like JRPG term
base system.
It's a, it's a type of like gamethat I have not traditionally
engaged with.
That is not my, my style.
Oh, I love, that's my, that's myjam.
Right?
Like I've never even played afinal fantasy.
Like I just haven't was mine,you know, exact Oh yeah.
Fire balloon's.
An example of a game.
I did play like three hose.
Like I absolutely loved it.
Maybe'cause I'm a teacher, Idon't know.
But what I will tell you thoughis that like Expedition 33 right

(25:09):
now, and I'm still early in it,talk about labor of love.
Yeah.
Like I'm telling you, it, itactually like.
People put their heart and soulsinto it.

Cozy Snap (25:16):
Did you think, did you see anything, I dunno how
we're, we're, we're deep now,but did you see anything, a
marathon?
What, what were your thoughts onthe bungees new game?
It looks I'm not crazy about it.

I think it looks kind of interesting.
My buddy who like is a hugebungee fan, he's like, you have
to watch the, the CGI moviecompanion that came up with it.
And he linked it to me and Ihaven't yet watched it, but
apparently it's like, like anamazing, incredible CG like kind
of story thing.
Akin to like, do you rememberthe original Overwatch shorts?

(25:45):
Oh yeah.
Like even the original Overwatchtrailer.
I remember watching like PixarMan, when when Tracer comes in
with wins in the museum.
Yeah, in the museum.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I like that.
Yeah.

Cozy Snap (25:53):
Yeah.
Doom, physics, gaunt andeverything.
It's kinda

reminiscent of that, I think.
Okay.

Cozy Snap (25:56):
Yeah, I feel, I just feel like they kinda left
Destiny too, and I thought, youknow, maybe they were gonna do
something big and bold and it,it's, to me it's, it's a risk
and.
You know, it's a competitivemarket.
I'd be surprised if it theyhave, yeah.
There's some things I wasn'tcrazy about, but I'm, I'm, it's
alpha, you know what it isthough?
I keep hearing it's alpha.
It's alpha.
But I remember playing RivalsAlpha.
Do you remember this?
We played this and we're like,dude, this game's done like

(26:18):
this.
Game's already.
Yeah, it's already peaked.
Like it's already great.
And I think Alpha these daysdon't mean what it did back in
the day a little bit more.
And then, dude, they, you didn'tplay this game, but they
released this game.
Dragon Wilds.
It's like scape, but Val Heim.
Have you played Val Heim?
Yeah.

Yeah.
Yeah.
I played Heim like on release.
Yeah, I remember.
Yeah, I think I, I made contentfor it real Was was like actual
YouTube videos about Heim.
I actually YouTube gaming'sTwitter retweeted one of my
videos.
'cause I had like figured out away to like get like console
like hacks and stuff.
Into Heim and they retweeted it.
For those that,

Cozy Snap (26:51):
those that don't know, I'm a die.
I'm a diehard OSRS fan.
Anyone out there, lemme knowyour stats.
I'll love you forever since Iwas a child.
So this game hit every, it, it,it's got some tweaking to do.
Its early release.
Kinda like heim when it cameout.
It's like, or ark.
Did you ever play ark that thecaveman dinosaur won?

Oh, yes, I know which one you're talking
about.
Way bad.
So I did play that game, but theUI was so bad.
It's it, I can't do this.
I can't, it must be the worst UII've ever had.
But it was so new.
I'm like, I literally cannotplay this game.

Cozy Snap (27:18):
The idea of it was so new, it was like Minecraft
almost in its own sense.
But like, with dinosaurs?
With dinosaurs speaking of Idon't, I was gonna say, we just
gotta move on.
Anyway, yeah.
There's just so much gamer lovethis week.
It was like incredible andsomehow I still managed to play
Snap in a, in a hell of a lot ofrivals.
But,

anyway, buddy, all this was in the OTA notes,
by the way, in case you'recurious, all of it packed

Cozy Snap (27:36):
in there.
Thank you, Glen, for tuckingthat in there as well, buddy.
I hit up Glen this week and Iwas like, Hey Glen, I've been
playing more magic.
I just want you to know.
And he was like, oh.
I was like, yeah, I just thoughtI would tell you also if you
ever wanna play but and Alex, I,yeah, we're we, we, we plan on
playing some more ourselves, butyeah.
Snap.
Oh yeah.
That, that's what we're talkingabout.
So yeah, infinity Old going 5,6, 5 8.

(27:58):
We were talking about it, thatwin rate, it went from what,
like 44%?
Where is it at now?

Like 46, it didn't end up moving the needle
much.
I'm still surprised the SilverSurfer looks like one of the
best places for it of allplaces, right?
Like that still shocks me andyou, you made that call.
It's unfortunate the cart as awhole isn't landing on its feet,
but it's surprisingly capable inSilver Surfer.
But but yeah, unfortunately itjust wasn't enough for 50 D
Altron.
I think you're gonna have tosee.
The stones can't be an RNGfestival where it's like you

(28:25):
can't have two stones that aregarbage.
Like it just can't Every, nomatter what variation of the
stones you get, you should beable to close up the game.
Agree.
And I think that's what InfinitiUltra needs.
So like the move stone and theoh, you get plus two power for
all the locations filledgarbage, change them.
They have to be worth pulling.
It's not simple.

Cozy Snap (28:43):
Yeah.
Agreed man.
Also, I thought it was crazy.
Remember I brought up PennyParker and I'm like, I would
like to see her get aPowerPoint.
Dude, remember this random oneoff that I said, and you're
like, I think she's fine now.
I was, I was surprised that theyactually ended up giving her a
little

love.
I've actually been playing lotsof Penny Parker.
She's been ma making a bunch ofmy decks because I think I've
been, I don't know why, I thinkI've fallen in love with Wcan
over the last little while.
I've been playing a lot of likewcan ramp type shells and Penny
Parker's a nice fallback tothat.
You do have the consistent curvewhich, you know, you can also
ramp into five costs if youwant, but yeah, like, I actually
was super surprised to see.
But Penny getting buffedeverywhere.

(29:15):
Getting buffed in rivals,getting buffed in Snap.
It's.
Kind of wild.
Then we got the rhino, which Iwanna say we called as well.
Why cozy?
Why do you think we called it?
What was the thumbnail image ofthe last sucked?
Were they fine?
I telling you,

Cozy Snap (29:26):
they just find these cards suck and they're like, all
right, put it in rotation.
You know what the, the, thetitle of this, this, I, I, I
suppose it should have openedwith this, but OTA recap, a step
in the Right Direction.
Me and Alex called out last OTA.
It was boring.
The, the one power difference isnot enough.
We need to see more.
And I will say this, whether Ilike some of these changes or I
don't, they definitely took abit more risks and I like that.

(29:49):
I like the idea of giving cardsa different identity.
And so Captain Carter, we sawthat.
And then most definitely here,RiNo.
Now Alex and I both agree on onething.
We were talking before three,three up to three six, honor
reveal at a rock to your side ofthis location.
Hey man, like I think, I thinkit's a cool redesign, but I, we
both agreed.
Ruins should still be a thingwith this thing I like probably

(30:10):
would be too, I guess strong,but would it really?
I don't think so.

I don't know why.
And I, I'd be curious to knowwhy they decided to actively
remove that, because it would'veseemed like more work.
You already had it programmed,the cart already did it anyways,
so why remove it?
I would've liked to have seenlike three, five at a rock.
Still destroyed the location.
Yeah.
And you could've made it.
So once you destroyed the rockjust popped out of the location
you destroyed, it would've beenperfect.

(30:35):
I don't know why they changed itthis way, and but hey, I don't
care.
I mean, the card is obviously athree six powerhouse.
You don't necessarily want therock, but there is a card that
maybe we'll talk about on myside that really likes it.

Cozy Snap (30:45):
There's a couple cards too that consider JE the
Rock.
So like, it at least it's like,I don't know, I think it's a,
it's a, it's a pretty cool, justbig beefy body that you could
play and it, it definitely givesthem way more purpose and way
more, just way, way moreplayability.
Fastest.
Got his 15th buff.
Three, three to three four.
He's getting into that.
Okay, so human tortured rivalsgot like a buff and a buff and a
buff.
And finally people went from Ftwo to S two and you're like,

(31:07):
wait a second.
This guy's cracked.
'cause he got like nine buffs.
Vatos is creeping towards prettygood, like going from that
three, three now to a threefour.
That also, even though RNGfilled now is gonna continue to
add way more value than justthat.
If you think of him in a staffperspective, he's not bad.

FAOs is pretty solid.
I think so.
And he has been for a while.
I think what the problem withFAOs is, it's like, it's like
turn three or die with him alittle bit.
Mm-hmm.
And I think his stats needed toreflect that the randomness of
his ability is not great either.
And I think, is it one of thosethings where the one drops, I
can't remember.
'cause I do play FAOs, but I'venot played because I've been
playing him in surfer, but Idon't play like Nova or anything

(31:44):
in surfer right now.
If you hit a one costed cardwith the it, it can't go to
zero.
Can it?
I don't remember.
I gotta think.
I don't think so.
I don't think it can.
Right, so FAOs can like ruin orlike waste buffs on cards you're
drawing because if you can't doa negative one on a one cost,
right?

Cozy Snap (32:01):
Yeah.
Yeah.
I believe so.
Can it?
No, I don't think it can, bro.
I feel like it can't, I feellike it can't.

I've only been playing him in like in a, like
an eternal surfer with macariand stuff with no one drops.
I'd be curious about that, but Ido know that there's some
awkwardness about that.
Like RG side of his effect,right?

Cozy Snap (32:16):
Yeah, for sure.
But you play him on curve, man,you immediately have pretty good
value depending on what you didhit and you can design things
around it, right?
So I like what they did withhim.
We talked about toxin, we talkedabout Sam Wilson.
Getting a bit of a tame down aswell.
We've now seen a couple seasonpass cards.
Get some tame in some direction.
Captain Carter, they'll goingthe right way.
Sam and Iron Patriot going thewrong way.

(32:37):
We're gonna close this Snapchatwith our last subject Snap
packs.
Are they enough?
We have them coming out thisweek.
We're gonna talk about them morein detail.
Alex's side but we have nottalked about them a lot over
here.
Alex Snap packs coming out now.
We've kind of stated this acouple times.
I think these are gonna bereally good for maintaining the
current player base.
I think that's a very importantthing, but it is gonna come down

(33:00):
to marketing and making surethat the players know this and
they've teased it.
They've teased.
I believe that they're gonna dosomething upon release with the
snap packs.
Like whether it be like I.
People are gonna get tokens fora new card, whatever it might
be.
We don't know exactly, but Ithink they need a little sizzle,
a little sauce to go alongsidethis update to get people, you
know, to, to, to re-download,you know, spin the wheel of

(33:23):
opportunity and try to getthemselves a, a, a new card to
play with and, and see how thisnew acquisition works.

I agree.
And I think that with Snap theyneed to bring the old players
back obviously, and they need tokeep the existing players.
Snap is on a bit of a declinenumbers wise, but with that
being said, it's still doingremarkably well.
I think that we were spoiledwith a game that literally took
the world over.
Yeah.
In, in December or whenever,sorry, in like when it had come
on originally.
I remember December with thegame awards and everything, it

(33:50):
winning it was absolutely peakand the game deserved it too.
Like it was incredible.
And then what happened is, islike.
The monetization started clawingat us and hooking us a little
bit.
I remember we had a Snapchatconversation.
We're like, we want to give youmoney.
Give us a reason to give youmoney, like we wanna support
this game.
And then they took that and theyran too far in the opposite
direction with it to somedegree.
And so I do think that that SnapHacks has to be, I.

(34:13):
A correction of that system.
And I will tell you that basedoff of my interactions with the
development team, whichadmittedly are a bit limited I
believe that they do haveintentions of making this a much
better system.
They didn't go into this sayinglike, oh, let's make a system
that just kind of like is moreof like a, like a facade of what
people think they want, butlet's still just like.

(34:35):
Grab money outta them and makethe acquisition impossible.
I think they went into thisrecognizing that this was a
major pain point for players andthey wanted to make it better.
They wanted to make the cardacquisition better and they want
to make the overall playerexperience more positive.
Yeah.
Even if potentially it comes atslightly less revenue, which
honestly it might be the harddecision to make, but probably
the correct one.

(34:56):
So I'm hoping that they deliveron it cozy.
'cause I think the game needsit.

Cozy Snap (34:59):
Yeah, so here's the good news, and, and this is what
I, I, I agree with what yousaid.
You know, snap is, I think, at agood place right now.
I do think it is enough.
The biggest thing that drivesMarvel Snap is that first word,
Marvel.
Marvel Strikeforce is a gamethat was out, been out for a
long time, and it has a lot ofstaying power as well, because
the cool thing about Marvel isit's been timeless, right?
And, and with, you know, we haveprobably hit the lowest that

(35:23):
Marvel has been in by far, in avery long time.
You know, especially since theturn of the millennia, but.
I feel like we've got Fantasticfour Thunderbolts earlier
reviews coming in Best moviesince Endgame has been the, the
reviews on it.
Okay.
Really?
Okay.
That's nice.

cause it looks awesome.

Cozy Snap (35:40):
Yeah, it does.
It looks great.
And then you've got you've got ainterest doomsday coming out, so
you've got some big hitters.
And I can tell you certainlythis happened when Star Wars
took a hiatus and even though itwasn't craziest about the, the
newest movies coming out,whenever I saw it, I'm like,
man, I gotta, I gotta dive deepback into the world of Star
Wars, man.
I'm hooked.
Like I.
Gimme some Darth Vader rightinto the veins.

(36:00):
And, and so when you have thesemovies that do this, you have
rivals you know you look atterms like the Ms.
Frost, you know, depending onthe reasons, but it doesn't
matter 7,000 x percent higherthan it was for its whole
lifetime, right?
So things go on the boom and,and when you have Snap at a
great game at its core.
You've got now this coming intoit, it welcomes people back.

(36:23):
But, you know, come have somefun play, you know, with your
favorite Marvel heroes and, andhave a good time doing it.
So it's got limitless potentialthere.
I think Ben said he wanted tomake a card game and he, he
said, no one wants to play withlaser face.
I can tell you if they had agame with no IP and it was laser
face and it boomed'cause it wassuper fun, it would be dead
because they, you don't havethat kind of, that reach to the
ip.

(36:43):
And so I think that's soimportant for the game.
And so keeping it eco-friendly,keeping the player base happy.
All those things are soimportant and I think this does
set up Snap moving forward inthe right direction pretty well.

Yeah, and I think one of the challenges like
the game has is that like, it'sjust the overall monetization
model of like car games and CCGsthe traditional way that they've
always made money.
They tried to kind of iterate onthat with the collection track,
which is honestly, it's, itfeels like a dinosaur at this
point.
Like it feels like it doesn'treally serve its true purpose
anymore.
Tons of filler boosters arestill in there.

(37:16):
I don't even know why.
50 credits is barely even areward As you're going through a
track that you're spendingcredits to get through anyway,
you're really just going forthose caches and you're going
for the keys and there's justall filler in between.
Right?
But like if you think about likeMarvel Rivals is another great
example game we both play.
When you install Marvel rivalsfor the first time, it doesn't

(37:36):
matter what the Met is, you canplay Rocket.
If you wanna play strategist, ifMagneto's the top Vanguard, you
can pick Magneto.
If Magneto's the best card inMarvel Snap and you just started
playing, you don't have Magnetoin your collection.
If Penny Parker gets buffed inrivals and it's the meta
vanguard, right?
You can't just go into Marvel,snap and play Penny Parker.
It just, the, the, the gamedoesn't work that way.

(37:58):
The monetization doesn't workthat way.
And something tells me thatRivals is making a lot of money.
'cause it sells, you know, skinsand stuff like that.
It sells season passes and, butthe problem with these
collectible card games is thecard acquisition model is the
primary way that these gamesmake their money.
And so they put up theseroadblocks that don't exist in
Overwatch and rivals and otherstuff.

(38:19):
Right.
But then again, we don't havethose energy timers that piss me
off in other mobile games weplay.
So I wonder if it's kind of a, asymptom of the.
Of the genre that Marvel SnapBit.
It's always been a mobile game.
First Bit can figure it out.

Cozy Snap (38:33):
It's always been a mobile game first.
I think we, like way back whenwe kind of hoped when PC came
out, we're like, oh, this isjust the beginning.
Is this gonna, you know, andthen we realized, oh, like,
okay.
It is like this is kind of whatwe're getting.
And what they aim for whenmaking it right.
And that goes well beyond theplayer base when they pitch it
to funder, whatever.
Right.
But I will say, yeah, I think, Ithink.

(38:54):
For what it is, you know, in, inthe genre.
It is, it's definitely doingjust fine.
I would say going back to whatI've beaten a dead horse at this
point, like marketing, I thinkthe easiest way to do it, and
I've talked to another creatorI.
That, I don't want to go into alot of detail, but they have
left a game per se, or theyhaven't been playing it so much
and that team still reaches outto'em on a regular, like, Hey,

(39:16):
can we do anything for you?
How are you And the teamcurrently on Snap has never
talked to this person.
And so it, to me, the easiestway to get marketing is to look
at people that pour their blood,sweat, tears and, and, and time
into.
Right.
And that is your, your creators.
And I, I would like to see amuch different front on that.
I think they do a pretty goodjob that gets by, but it.

(39:37):
You know, we we're gonna keep,keep bringing it up.
Now, you know, we're almost, youknow, heading to three years
since the, the, the, that'scrazy, man.
This game, this game for thefirst time.
About three years ago, getting,getting right next to that date.
That's so crazy now to thinkabout that.
This year's flown by already.
But yeah, man loving to see itand and excited for the, the

(39:58):
future.
If you guys wanna know, by theway, no videos this week for me.
No, OTA I had a couple thingscome up that I had to address.
I.
One of which a good friend Mr.
Dexter said on, on, on Twitter,he gotten a wreck, wanted to be
there for him, help him out.
Happened right at the OTA, ifyou're wondering where that
video was that's where it was.
Never, never coming out.

Cozy.
I got a question for you, a veryimportant one.
I've actually been waitingalmost five days for this
moment, this Snapchat moment,because Cozy, my wife and I
completed Daredevils season two.
And believe it or not, she likedit and she's like, yeah, we can
watch the next part.
Like, that's great.
I'm like, well, hold on.
I said, hold on, wifey.
I said, we can't.
We can't yet because I don'tknow if we're supposed to watch

(40:36):
season three next, because Ibelieve you had mentioned that
after season two of Daredevil,the show actually went on a bit
of a different path.
Like it's one of those showsthat like now the story
continues in another show.
I think it might be JessicaJones or something like that.
There's a lot.
So I actually need a breakdownof what I'm supposed to watch
next because we're waiting,

Cozy Snap (40:56):
it's hard to explain.
Like you could kind of like,it's like if you, now it's not
this much of an impact, right?
But like, let's say like, youknow, you have a fresh new
girlfriend and an Infinity Warjust came out and they've never
seen a Marvel movie.
And they're like, can I go?
And you're like, you'll like themovie.
Like it'll be a good movie toyou, but to you, you're like,
ah, oh, ah.
I know them.
It's like just payoff afterpayoff.

(41:18):
Yeah.
Yeah, right.
So it's got a little bit of thatto it.
I will always stand by Inceptionshould come next.
It's just a two hour movie, twoepisodes, put'em on.
Pause, watch inception, then wecan talk.
Or shutter Shutter Island.
I think Shutter Island will blowyour mind.

Okay, so Shutter Island or Inception are
either of them scary?

Cozy Snap (41:37):
Shutter Island has disturbing.
Sequences, but my wife is thebiggest potato when it comes to
being scared.
I don't know why I pickedpotato, but I'm gonna pick that.
I'll pick a skinnier veg carrotwhen it comes to like scary
movies.
And she could do it just fine.
I think there's a coupledisturbing things, but trust me,
you'll finish Shutter Island andyou'll want to watch it again.

Is that the one with Tom Hanks on the, on
the island when he's kind ofabandoned and he's talking to
the Rock?

Cozy Snap (42:03):
No, no, no, no.
No, that's Wilson.
Wilson.
No, that's just the name of thevolleyball.
That's what?
Wow.
Cawood?

No.
Okay, so it's not shorter.
I, I don't know why I wasthinking about Tom Hanks and
Turner Island is Leonardo

Cozy Snap (42:16):
Le Leonardo DiCaprio.
Which, if I say that actor,who's the f What's the first
movie you think of then?
I know it Titanic.
Titanic.
Did you have the Vs.
The VHS one and two.

Obviously I did.
Of course I did.
You did.
I remember very vividly being inthe theater to watch Titanic and
there was like a lot of buzzabout people watching Titanic,
like 30, 40 times.
I remember sitting in there, Ithink it was with my sister, oh
boy.
And.
I remember I, I, dude, I waslike super young at the time.
She's 12 years older than me.
So like the only way I get to goto the movies is if my older
sister took me and my brother.

(42:47):
But anyways, I remember sittingthere and the guy walked in and
like, he was just an employee.
He's like, just so you guysknow, this movie's like almost
three hours long and there'slots of water.
So go to the bathroom now.
Thanks.
And he walked out.
I just know, I don't know whycourt stuck out to me.
Yeah, it's like a core memoryunlocked.
Dude, I have to this, this dudewalking out to tell me this.

Cozy Snap (43:05):
This always cracks me up, okay?
I grew up in the south, right?
So Bible belts a little bit ofAmerica, and yo, I could watch
Braveheart.
I could watch guys getting theirheads chopped off.
I could watch the gore.
You name it.
You name, you name the crime.
I could watch it, but God forbidif a nipple showed up on screen,

(43:26):
the movie shut down.
It's done.
We're turning it off movienight's over.
And I, I always crack up atthat.
'cause as a kid you could just,you could, well it sounds to me,
did you, you did not.
There's no way you grew up in astrict household.
I feel like you didn't.

I'm both, my parents are right off the boat.
Italians.
I lived in the strictesthousehold of imaginable.
So you know what I'm talkingabout then.
Yeah, I know exactly what you'retalking about, buddy.
I just told you the only way Iwas gonna get to go to a movie
was am I glitching?

Cozy Snap (43:53):
I think you're good.
If you were watching live, Alexwas doing a little twitching,
but I think he's, he's back.
The only, yeah, but, well,exactly.
But that, do you know what I'mtalking about?
You're like, you're watching amovie.
It could have cuss, it couldhave f-word, it could have head
chop up a little bit.
Newie in the, in the game.
Like, I'm pretty sure we had abonfire for VH test.
VHS tape number one.
What to,

what I would say was a tasteful.
Oh, you're talking about it's aTitanic.

Cozy Snap (44:16):
Yes.
What I would say a drama moment,a tasteful art scene.

That was not tasteful.
They knew what they were doing.

Cozy Snap (44:22):
You know what, all I'm saying is I can watch people
jump off the boat of theTitanic.
Little Timmy doesn't matter, butthe, some art,

little Timmy was on the boat.
He was getting off there.
Women and children first.
Cozy.
Come on.
Now.

Cozy Snap (44:35):
My message is just blowing by, you know, I, I just.
You were never the kid.
You, you know, you're watchingand, and every single time,
every single time you'rewatching the movie Mom doesn't
come in the whole time.
And then there happened to belike a scene with cleavage mom
busting the door and like, dangit, of course this one scene is
when they come in

that you never experienced that.
But I just remember being likea, like my wife and I, like we,
we started dating in, in highschool and I remember like we'd
walk to a nearby blockbuster andwe'd pick movies and stuff.
We would always watch them inthe family room where like, my
dad is literally cooking like,like my dad would like cook
dinner.
He was a chef.
He'd cook dinner and then hewould just like continue cooking

(45:11):
throughout the night for somereason.
And so like my dad was in likevisible distance, we're watching
the movie and of course as soonas anything even suspect
happened, he'd walk around thecorner and I'm like, ah, right.
He looked like, he's like, whatare you watching here, buddy?
I don't know.

Cozy Snap (45:26):
Did you have the blanket?
Did you guys wear, did you guyshave a blanket on two?
The blanket was only suspect.
As soon as I got a girlfriend,

they burned

Cozy Snap (45:32):
all the blankets.
Yeah.
The blankets are suspect.
The, the blankets are the firstto go.
You have 19 blankets, you get agirlfriend, you got zero.
It's like, where'd all theblankets go?
That's like straight.
I got

a girlfriend, I walked upstairs.
I'm like, why is my bedroom doorgone?
Yeah.

Cozy Snap (45:43):
Right.
Why?
Why is there?
Yeah.
Why is there a chastity belt onmy bed?
Dad?
Like, what?
What happened here?
Well anyway, speaking of chassisbelts, let's talk about.
Strange, supreme high qualitytransition there.
The, the chassis bout of Marvel,snap.
What what were your thoughts?
Man of, of strange, other thanit was great.

So first of all, I'm actually still confused
as to what order I'm supposed towatch the Marvel stuff in now.
So someone in the comments,please, I need a complete
breakdown of you watch the Titanof what I'm supposed to watch
next,

Cozy Snap (46:11):
then VHS one only then you watch.
Then after the tattoo, I, Ijust,

is it defenders?
I thought it was defenders.
Someone just tell me.
But in terms of strange Supreme,who by the way cozy, I had
requested that you had writtenSuck Supreme on the thing and
you did not write suck Supreme.
I didn't.
I didn't write supreme sockwould've been acceptable as
well.
I gotta tell you, I almost gotto monetize both on Twitch and
on YouTube at the same time,recording that call.
I had people begging me, they'relike, Alex, I'm listening to you

(46:37):
at work.
Please stop saying that, thatstrange, supreme sucked the
demon.
Like, it's like, it's just, it'snot translating well.
You know?
Yes, we know.
He sucked the monster.
Alex, like, you don't need tokeep saying it.
I was, oh man.
When I tell you I had fun, likeI was laughing at myself
recording.
Oh.
Like it was stupid.
It's the bolts of bolt sides allover again.
I need, you need, yeah, exactly.

(46:57):
It was bolts of sack all overagain.
So anyways, I hope that sucks.
Supreme sticks.
I, that's my favorite one.
But I.
This is crazy.
I love the card.
I tell you I love it.
I think it's worth getting.
I think that if you don't getit, I don't think you're
necessarily gonna like regretit, but this is a great card.
I love it.
And yet statistically it's notdoing great and I disagree.
I'm like, Nope, I disagree.

(47:17):
It's running a flat 50%, likedead on post, infinite, straight
up, 50% win rate at a 33%popularity.
People got this card and it'sonly running a flat 50%.
I think there's a lot ofexperimentation.
We're seeing Thanos builds of itgetting to approximately 56%
with positive.
Cub rates and stuff like that.
Dude, I love this card.
I don't even care if it's not agreat performer'cause it is

(47:39):
gonna be a great performer oncethe decks get ironed out.
This is a phenomenal card.
Yeah, it is so good.
It's so fun.
It's, I love it.
I think you should get it.
It has my full recommendationand I, I still, by the way, I
still think it's a good card.
I think it's a high power card.
I was getting like 30 power.
Yep.
Like, are you kidding me?
It was absolutely great.

Cozy Snap (47:55):
Two Cost Bureau we just talked about.
I mean, it's like just what youcan get at one and two is we've
seen the tested time.
If there's a two cost card thathas remote high potential, it's
gonna be a banger.
And that's kind of what'sstrange.
Supreme is proven to be, I thinkreally the only thing.
That can lead to losses heavilywith it, is that it gets so high
in power and it becomes such awind condition that you rely on
it and then they could just slapit with a good old, you know,
shadow king, the shunk chi rightup right up the strange schnoz,

(48:17):
you know?
So I, I feel like outside ofthat, that that's what leads to
a couple losses.
But as a two br the investmentis so low and we talked about
it, man.
We thought he would justperfectly marry into Thanos man
and, and that he did.

Absolutely.
He crushed in Thanos and it wasgreat because like, I Okay.
My, I tried to do this like cookwhere I did like Thanos lock jaw
again.
'cause I had this thought oflike, you know what, you get the
cycle going.
You, you put zbu in the deck'cause zbu hits the lock jaw,
right?
And I, I tried to get this, thismill going.
And you know what the funnything was is once you started to
get that, that lock jaw engineengine going, if you pulled

(48:49):
rocks.
Strange.
Supreme sucked him out of thelockjaw lien.
So you still had room to keepgoing?
It was actually pretty neat.
I think I was onto something,but ultimately what I did was I
cut Mockingbird from the deckbecause I found that you were
sucking all the stones out andMockingbird was actually getting
more expensive in your hand moreoften than not.
But looking right now at likeuntapped, the highest performing

(49:10):
versions do still runMockingbird.
'cause you might not have streamSupreme on the board.
You want that fallback inMockingbird.
Interestingly enough cards likeCaptain American Sam Wilson are
in these decks, and yet you'rejust eating the shield nearly
immediately, like you're noteven playing.
So I think there's a lot of.
Inefficiencies in the deckdesign for Strange Supreme, and

(49:30):
once they get really ironed out,well I think they're gonna be
good.
Even clog, honestly, clog feltreally strong with him.
Like he was a very strong scalerthat was wiping up all the
boards, like the stuff fromdebris and everything while your
opponent was struggling to play.
So I do think The StrangeSupreme is a particularly strong
card.
And I, I, I, man, it's been awhile since I've had as much fun

(49:50):
Yeah.
With it.
And he was getting to crazypower levels and.
We always have thisconversation.
Do we want the power creep?
Like, I don't know, but I toldyou like I had a blast playing
him this week.

Cozy Snap (49:58):
Yeah, and I feel like more cards we get like rhino
too, where they're like goodvalue, but also obviously aid
him.
That helps so much.
Yeah.
Because then at that pointyou're not even going all in.
You're just like having a goodcard that's played along other
good cards with slightdrawbacks, and then it just kind
of fits in perfectly.
Randall coming out of theabsolute perfect time, man, and
it was cool this week to havesomething like Strange Supreme
have all these different ideasand deck builds, and then this

(50:20):
OTA come with a heavy hitter aswell, and then it's like, wow.
It felt like a more diverse snapthan typical, which is obviously
like always, always a blast tosee.
But yeah, man, I, I think.
I think looking back at all thenew car, where did we rank him?
That's my question.
Originally,

we ranked him high.
I actually think last week weforgot to give him star ratings.
Did we?
I don't think we actually saidit out loud.
I'm scrolling all the way down.
I'm trying to find our actualrankings.
We'll talk about it next week.
Anyway, man, we, we have so manynotes, but I believe we ranked
him near the absolute top.
You might've been number one forus, man.
I'm still scrolling.
I feel like you're bold.
No, I feel

Cozy Snap (50:55):
like we were dumb enough.
We put Goliath as our first, butI, I think.
We, we, I think you did the boldtake of Hydro Stomper.
'cause you remember you likedhim like a lot.
A lot.

Oh.
I put hydro stomper aboveStrange Supreme.
Yeah.
I a feeling right.
Goliath one.
Yes.
Did I have two?
Yes.
Goliath.
One.
Hydro Stomper Strange Supreme.
Three.

Cozy Snap (51:14):
Did I have strange?
Two or three?
I.

I have to go back and get yours still.
I forgot to, I think I, I,

Cozy Snap (51:19):
I either said, I hope I didn't say Catherine Carter.
I think I just believed, I thinkmy statement on Carter was if
she's bad, they'll make hergood.
So hopefully, hopefully thatwill that'll rain true.
We'll see that obviously nextweek.
But definitely, definitely funto see.
But yeah, strange, great card.
Good potential in, in the futurefor him.
And then, yeah, just gonna be anice one to snag in the snack
pack.
In the snack pack wheneveryou're going, you know, for

(51:39):
something else.
Snack packs.
Snag and snacks.
We should actually,

we should.
That's a perfect transition.
Cozy.
Let's talk about the snackpacks.

Cozy Snap (51:44):
Let's do it, bro.
I want a snack pack right now.
Little

roo buddy.
I'm starving.
We're actually, do you knowwhat, we're actually recording
this earlier than usual.
I knows we're a little moreenergetic.
I literally

Cozy Snap (51:52):
was just, I just finished.
It's not the middle of thenight.
Yeah, I was, I was trying to, Iwas trying to snack while we, we
filmed here, man.
It was

my

Cozy Snap (51:58):
family's

eating dinner OMI

Cozy Snap (52:00):
right now.
Yeah, the typical, typical, theprice we pay.
I was thinking that.
My wife asked me, she said how,how many weeks have you done
this in a row?
Now?
I'm like, it's crazy to thinkthat two and a half years, like
every I've, whether I like it ornot, I like it, but whether I
like it or not, I'm seeing yourface every week for two and a
half years.

(52:20):
It's a wild thought.

Every Saturday night you go to bed, you, you
close your eyes and you see myface.
I do.
I'm staring at you.
You ready?
For the next day?

Cozy Snap (52:28):
Another Sunday.
No, man.
I'm always pumped, man.
Always, always pumped for it.
Yes.
Net packs, bro.
We got'em.
They're coming out this week.
What do we got now?
That's right.

They're coming out this week and I thought like
it would be a fun conversationto discuss what are some of the
Chase cards?
Yep.
Like, you know, cozy and I,we've been ripping packs and
magic.
I've been ripping packs in alldifferent types of games.
I just like opening packs.
Fun time game.
It is.
I just wanna open a pack.
Right.
And having chase cards isimportant.
Like that shadowless charge art.
Like imagine, imagine you justopened a pack of.
Pokemon right now and you pullthe first edition, shadows

(52:57):
charge there, one dream and youjust like, I don't know, bought
a house with it or something.

Cozy Snap (52:59):
One, one could dream.
Dude, I was just open up a Iopened up a Jumpstart Magic pack
and I got the most expensive onein there and I was like, it was
like a 50 buck card.
I was like, Hey.

Dude, we were playing against each other and
you opened the little doggy, thedoggies worth a lot too.
Pup.
You, you clap my cheeks with alittle doggy that kept getting
buffed every

Cozy Snap (53:14):
time you dinner pup.
Yeah.
What did he do?
He gave, was it life?
Did he give life every time Iplayed or was life Lincoln plus
one.
Plus one every time you didsomething.
Yeah.
The counters bureau.
And that was what was buildingup.
What, what did you play?
What?
What tech were you playing?

I don't even remember.
Zelos and something crappy.
Zeal.
You just absolutely demolishedme.
Yeah.

Cozy Snap (53:30):
Zes.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So series four pack, seriesfive.
Series Five plus Packs.
What are you thinking right nowas far as.
You know, what, what are thebest cards to get?
Where do you wanna start withthis?
You wanna start with like four?
Four?
Let's start from the top down.
Okay.
Top down, let's

stop the, so we'll start with seasonal series
five packs, which are gonna cost5,000 tokens.
We're gonna go through all thepacks and we're gonna talk about
some of the chase cards orreally good cards to pull from
those packs.
So seasonal series five packsare gonna cost 5,000 tokens.
As of recording, this mightchange, but as of recording,
5,000 tokens.
And this one here is gonna bethe one with the.
The prior two months worth ofkind of seasons, right?

(54:04):
Yep.
And I believe it's gonna rotatebased on a weekly rotation.
So basically the ninth card willjust get kicked off.
Okay.
Same thing.
Or I don't know how they'regonna do it, but every week one
card's gonna enter, one, card'sgonna leave.
I think I, I believe that's howit's gonna work.
Anyways.
So over the last like couple ofweeks, what have been the really
high impact season?

(54:24):
Series five cards that have comeout, and I'm gonna start with
Goliath.
I think that Goliath is a greatcard if you're looking to play
any ongoing synergy.
Goliath is in every singleongoing deck that is making
rounds in Marvel Snap right now.
And so I think that you can veryconfidently pull Goliath outta
the seasonal series five.

Cozy Snap (54:44):
Yeah, I think what the cool thing about this new
system is, is like, it, it'llfeel like, kind of like a
physical card gave the sense oflike, you pull a card and you're
like, oh, I wasn't planning onplaying X deck, but now lemme
give it a shot.
And we've had a lot of cardsthat have come out that are
like.
Unless you like this deck, don'tget it.
And so I like Goliath.
I think this is a great exampleand like really allows you to

(55:04):
just play all different types ofongoing builds and just one that
can fit is a stable card.
You're definitely like superhappy about that one.
It's gonna, no matter what, ifyou play it ongoing, it's gonna
increase your win rate.
If you play it with Goliath,he's just gonna add to the value
of that deck.
For me, I was thinking like, youknow, you have like Star brand
where it's like you weren'tnecessarily thinking about
getting Star brand and playing aso on deck, but then you pull'em

(55:25):
and you're like, Hey.
Why not?
Why not?
This is already a, a, a, a greatcard to go with.
So I like what you think ofthere and I think Goliath though
is a great way to kick it off,is just a one of those
fundamental building block cardsyou didn't think you needed.

And it's interesting because you pull
something like Star brand.
Instead of like, oh, I'm gonnapay 5,000 tokens for, you know,
the seasonal packs, you can thengo down to the cheaper series
five pack and potentially pullthe Aries to complete that
shell.
'cause those are kind of the twoexpensive cards in the shell.
The rest are kind of moreaccessible.
So like you have this step downof rarity, which kind of helps

(55:59):
you save a little bit, which is,I think, kind of interesting.
I'm gonna say strange Supreme wejust talked about today.
I think that's a great cardthat's worth pulling.
And I think Star Brand doesstand out as a, as a good call
out from.
From Kozy there title aboutseasonal series four packs.
Now we don't have any of thisseasonal series four.
I think the only ones we haveare Gorgon and Toxi.
Doxy right now, right?
Yeah.
But I believe they have anintention of, and dumb, dumb,

(56:20):
oh, I guess Uncle Ben and Laie.
Dumb dumb.
Duggan is dumb.
Dumb in there.
I dumb in there.
What happened to dumb dumb.

Cozy Snap (56:26):
Didn't they release some, I got a notification like
yesterday that was like, if youmissed out on Dun dumb Dugan,
oh,

that was just some drunk notification
gameplay.
There was no dumb dumb like,dude, dude, I saw that I was
busy.
Oxy doxy was the high voltage.
That's what

Cozy Snap (56:37):
I, well, I knew that for sure, man.
The one that, did you see youranimation finally?
By the way, remember I wastelling you she farts on your
cards?
Yeah.
It's so stupid.
Yeah, I know.
Weird.
It, it's dumb.
Dumb.

That card sucks so bad, by the way.
I was gonna make a video aboutit.
I'm like, yo, this card sucks.
Yeah.
Wasn't

Cozy Snap (56:51):
her other design even worse to was like, if you don't
play a card, what was thatstupid card?
Cobra?
Anyway

so see I forgot about Cobra Co.
Cobra's a card I have forgotten.
Existed like multiple timeswhile recording.

Cozy Snap (57:02):
Yeah, bro.
And actually

last time it came up, you're like, what do
you think about Cobra?
We were doing like a futureseasons episode.
I'm like, bro, I, I forgot thatcard existed.
I have no notes on it.

Cozy Snap (57:10):
Seeing E Tree.
Yeah bro.
But yeah, going to so seriesfour don't know like how, what
will end into that one, butlike.
As far as the general c seriesfive packs, right?
This is the big hitter, right?
This is the one where it's likeyou're gonna have so many cards
I feel like in here, that youcould get, and Alex, I think we
can both agree.
I feel like outside offundamental cards, like big
time, they're gonna make thearchetype.

(57:32):
I.
It's gotta be just cards thatare plug and playable into so
many decks, give you a new wayto play, and they're gonna add
to your overall success.
Like, I think that's what you'rehoping to pull.
If you want to give me, I, Imean I could give you one, I
guess like a lacto, I think is agreat example of that, right?
Where it's just like,immediately you're gonna have
this card that you could startbuilding into your decks.
That's gonna be great in thelong run.

That goes pretty much anywhere too.
Yeah.
Like you can play GTA in so manydifferent decks.
Right.
It's also worth doing thatseries five packs will be where
the cards go after they becomenon-seasonal anymore.
And there'll be a 4,000 tokenpack.
So 6,000 to buy in the shop.
5,000, sorry.
6,000 tokens to buy a cardoutright from the, like the
pinned token shop, 5,000 tokensto get the seasonal series five.

(58:15):
And then 4,000 tokens for thestandard series five.
I like the galactic call and Ithink that's like what a lot of
the different kind of ones we'regonna talk about today.
But can I make an argument forthe big bads?
We have a ton of big bads hereand I guess that the term big
bad is one that might have to beredefined eventually, but the
likes of Thanos, high Evo, evenGalactic, who's not necessarily
meta irrelevant right now, butEnos is literally making a

(58:38):
massive comeback right now withStrange Supreme.
Hi Evo.
Despite the fact it's reallybeing only played in like the
Ajax abomination package.
Is doing very well at some ofthe highest win rates in the
game right now.
These are great build aroundcards and if you're someone
who's relatively early in yourcollection level in Marvel Snap,
you pull high Evo, you've gotsomething like, you've got some

(58:58):
fun stuff that you can do withsome relatively inexpensive
cards.
And so those big bads, I thinkthey're incredible pulls.
For the series five packs.

Cozy Snap (59:06):
Yeah.
Give you a really like, uniqueway to play.
Like I think that's the otherthing.
So you have like plug and playcards and then you have like,
and Big Bads is a good call it,but unique cards that really
give you a new way to play asuit and play style and or like
experience the game.
So like example that is again,as we talked about, but like
Wcan I feel like is like, okay,he gives you access to just such
a different way to ramp withinSnap.

(59:29):
So like that would be anotherone that I'd be pumped for.
But I like the call out though.
Like imagine you've just beenholding off.
It's hard to imagine like, likeus obviously not having these
cards, but for somebody that'scoming back to the game, like
going in there, cracking a pack,getting high Evo, bro, that's a
good way to start things out.
That's how I wanna envision thisis like people coming back into
the game and getting some ofthese, these polls.

Yeah.
And especially since like,that's the thing I, I do worry
about though.
It's like, yes, like that'ssuper exciting, but it's still
4,000 tokens.
Like that is a lot.
So someone comes back to thegame and if they don't have
tokens right, they, theyprobably spent their resources
before they exited exit.
That's I saying they have tokenhave tons of resources.

Cozy Snap (01:00:03):
I think they've gotta give a free card pull too for
people that come back.
I feel like that's just the way,I think they should

Alexander Coccia (01:00:07):
just straight up give one of everyone, one of
every single one.
Why not?

Cozy Snap (01:00:11):
You're trying to get someone to come back to the
game, like they're not gonnacome back, get one card, pull a,
you know, whatever, dumb, dumbDuggan, and be like, all right,
well, I I'm just not gonnacontinue to play still.
Like, give them a, a fun reasonto come back.

Yeah.
They have to get something andI, I'm really hope, I'm really
hoping they do the creator packsthat they kind of hinted at.
Because I tell you guys, mypack's gonna be sick.
Like I don't think they're gonnalet us be like, here's all the
top.
Like, I'm not, they're not gonnalet me make a pack of Thanos
High Evo.
Yeah.
Sam Wilson.
Iron Patriot.
Yeah.
Every single good card in thegame.
Best card in the game.

(01:00:46):
It like, you buy one pack, youget every absolutely stellar
card.
Actually I think that RedGuardian's a great card.
Great card to pull from a seriesfive pack.
Talk about a universal,fantastic tech piece.
For the same reason I think thatcopycat, well, not necessarily
like niche in how you play it,it's so wide ranging that if
you're someone who's like stillbuilding a collection, you pull
copycat, man, that's, that's agreat filler.

(01:01:07):
That's a great, like, oh, Idon't have this card.
I guess I'll play copycat.
Right.
I think that's a, it's a greatkind of a card to fall back on.
Are there any others that standout to you in the series?
Five.
If

Cozy Snap (01:01:16):
I was a new player.
Sorry, a returning player.
When I try to think of anarchetype that's always very
comfortable to play, it's veryeasy to get the understanding of
and talk about some juice behindit.
Man, imagine playing a good liketwo months, right?
And then you quit around Silversurfer, I don't know.
You come back, you pullGilgamesh.
It's like, man, what an awesomecard to pull for zoo, just to

(01:01:39):
get things going, like rightaway.
Just to get like a, a powerhouseof a vertical card.
I think that'd be a really coolone to pull earlier as well.

Oh, it definitely would be.
Yeah.
And like like and on that, likeMockingbird is gonna be in the
series five packs as well.
But yeah, like Gil Connect isgreat.
Like that is such a fantasticcall out because zoo is so
accessible relatively early inSnap, especially with Blue Mar
kr all really early cars tocollect and then you just need
that slam finisher and that'sexactly what Gilgamesh is.

(01:02:07):
That's a fantastic call out.
Before we move on to the nextpack I guess one more I want to
shout out for sure.
Is agent Venom?
I think Age of Venom is a great,great card.
I think it's kind of beenforgotten to some degree.
The only challenge with theagent Venom decks is they do run
like Athenas, the kiddie prides.
I feel like on average they're alittle more expensive because of
that, especially since returningplayers might not be guaranteed

(01:02:30):
to have something like Athena,which is still kind of a, a
card.
I'm actually not sure what, whatpool or what series Thena is.
Did he drop the four or is itstill five still?
He's still still, I think he's

Cozy Snap (01:02:40):
five still.
Yeah.

Oh, I should have put her on this list.

Cozy Snap (01:02:44):
Yeah, no, I, agent Vim, I think checks the box of
what I was saying, like adifferent way to play.
Like you get him and it's like,all right, you have a new
objective, new way to, new wayto play.
It's kinda like in yeah, magicCommander, right?
It's like, okay, you, you kindof have this like main hub of a
card and then like, okay, youguaranteed, I mean, obviously
Commander, you're guaranteed tohave it, that's why it's
different, but you're, you'rebuilding your deck around it and

(01:03:05):
I think there's a lot of waysthat Deck can win.
In general, series four has abit less.
How much is series four?
They're 2000.
2000 tokens.
Kozy.
Okay.
Alright.
2000 tokens.
And there's still big hitters,bro.
I think if you did not get it, Ithink Loki has a one Cost would
be a sick hit.
For series four.

I've been enjoying Loki.
It's not quite what it used tobe.
I still, I know this is likeAlex, stop coping, but I still
miss transforming your hand.
It was such a fun effect.
It was so good.
I wish they could find a way tobring balance to that original
effect.
'cause it was something specialabout having all these cards in
your hand just turn into like.

(01:03:44):
This variant of your, of yourLoki.
'cause you know, it, it kind oftakes the border effect of your
Loki.
It was just great.
It was great.
Maybe it was great'cause it wasway too op, but existing Loki is
at least better and certainlymore playable.
I would definitely recommend it.
And it's actually ironicallymostly being played in Thanos
right now, which is being seeinga significant resurgence.
Although a strange Supreme willsuck all your Loki cards.

(01:04:08):
So that's something worthnoting.
Even though they've beentransformed the suck Supreme
will will have, we'll absolutelydemolish those cards as they go
down, which could be good or badbased off of you know, what you
want to happen.
Now, a card I wanna call outhere, and it might actually be
in the seasonal series four,like I'm not actually sure where
the, they're gonna break downthere.
But Gorgan Gogan is a seriesfour card that's actually seen

(01:04:28):
quite a bit of play right now.
And we just talked about HalThanos is making a comeback.
Gor kind of slaps Thanos in theface a little bit.
It doesn't completely derailtheir game plan, but it
certainly slows them down enoughto give you an advantage that
you could potentially snap intoa gor on turn two play.
And they might just leave after,you know, your gorgan reveals.
'cause it's just not worth it ifyou're a Thanos player.

(01:04:48):
But I think go's definitelyworth series four, whether it's
in the the Series four pack orin the seasonal series four.
But yeah, I wanna give, go agood shout out.
I

Cozy Snap (01:04:55):
like the shout out.
I is tribunal Living Tribunal'sin series four.
Yeah.
That's a cool, yeah.
Oblivious or that's a cool pick.
That's a cool card to get.
And you're just like, dude, for2K tokens, having a tribunal
deck that relatively, you canrun just fine with like Ironman
onslaught whatnot, right?
Like that's a cool, yeah, it'spretty

inexpensive actually, isn't it?

Cozy Snap (01:05:13):
Like traditional especially, right?
Yeah, I, I think so.
Like what?
Yeah.
Sarah Magic.
You do some of the old builds,it's like, man, that thing can
still slap.

Yeah, it does actually.
I like that color.
Yeah.
Tribunal's relativelyinexpensive to build.
And if so, like you're kind ofbuilding your collection still
and you pull that from theseries four bin.
You might actually be able tolike clap some cheeks with it.
And the only, the only risk yourun is as you get into higher
ELOs the Star brand, SaronEnchanter decks are really
popular and I bet you thoughtribunal will become more

(01:05:44):
playable after the Agent Carterseason because Captain Carter's
being played so much right now.
That people are like techingvery specifically against those
like weekend missions and stuffthat obviously Enchanters tends
to feast on.
So yeah, tribunal's a greatcall.
Dark Hawk a Forever Series fourcard.
Dark Hawk hasn't been seeing asmuch play, but like it feels
like.

(01:06:04):
The history of Marvel Snap.
There's no card that has mademore comebacks than Dark Hawk.
It's time's just gonna comeagain.
Like there's gonna come a timewhere Dark Hawk's back, I mean,
dark hawk's even good now withall the Thanos players'cause
they have en engorged decks.
And so as a result, you know, Iwish I couldn't engorged, like I
had, I had to pick Eng Gorge theworst.
That's the worst.
Worst.
But that's, that's worst.
That's the term I had to use.
I'm just stop.

(01:06:24):
I'm not gonna talk anymore.
You go ahead.

Cozy Snap (01:06:26):
No, no, I I I You've taken the words outta my mouth.
I was gonna.
I was gonna use that word.
And then I decided, wait, I'm ona podcast.
I probably shouldn't.
No.
Yeah.
Great, great point.
That your series four, so it'scool, man.
You got season five fives seriesfour, potential seasonal four.
Look at what that looks like.
And then finally you have, orjust the cheap sheet cost is six
50 tokens, which if you're onlyplayed a couple months, come

(01:06:47):
back, man.
You just start, if you got 5Ktokens, everybody gets a free 5K
tokens.
Dude, don't use it on the seriesfive, man.
Just rip'em, ship'em in seriesthree, see what you get.

First of all, I find a way to ruin every
podcast day.
Every single one I find a way.
But yeah, series three, pack six50 tokens.
There are so many cars to talkabout, though, like it would, it
would take us forever.
So we can't go through them all.
Just to kind of pick up on acouple of them, and by the way,
I will say they have improvedthe acquisition rate of series
three.
And so like, you reallyshouldn't be spending your
tokens here, I don't think.

(01:07:19):
I think you should be doing thecollection track.
Save if your tokens foreverything else.
Smart man once said that.
I think Cozy literally just saidthat.
But anyways, I'll I'll just,I'll repeat again.
Find a way to ruin everypodcast, but a couple cards that
wanna stand out here.
I think is it time to admit thatZbu is a standout cart or what?

Cozy Snap (01:07:35):
Yeah, man.
Getting Zbu gives you a fullfresh, I mean, I think him and
surfer are just like the tale.
Tale is old as time, right?
Yeah.
Getting both those give you newways to play, play different
costs, which everybody has not.
Like sometimes you'll be missingan archetype.
Key pieces here.
You're always able to makesomething work and cost lots.

Yeah, no, for sure.
Like silver surface.
Fantastic.
Dr.
Doom obviously a great pull,like just kind of a ubiquitous
card that can go anywheretech-wise.
Shadow King I think is afantastic pull here.
Magic final one I wanna shoutout.
I think Sarah's great.
Like Sarah, I think pullingSarah from a series three pack
would be great.
So there's so many cards.
Series three is just so massivenow.

(01:08:14):
But generally speaking, you'regonna want to conserve your
tokens and allow that double upthat they've provided us in the
collection track to kind of doits work because your tokens are
valuable.
Like don't just waste themwilly-nilly, like it's, they're
a very valuable commodity.
Despite the fact though, yougotta give'em credit.
The six 50 tokens is animprovement.
'cause it used to be a thousandtokens to pull a random series
three.
Now it's six 50 and they'reactually doubled up in the

(01:08:36):
collection track, so that'spretty good.
You know what else is good?
Cozy.
This Snapchat mailbag baby.
It's Snapchat mailbag time.
We're gonna be discussing acouple nice solid questions and
the first one's a two-partermultiple com cozy.
To say that there were a lot ofcomments about this topic would
be an understatement.
Sir Kazu starts us off withwasn't expecting such a Super

(01:08:57):
smash bros argument.
Ha ha.
But cozy is right here.
There was no Zelda or Chic onthe N 64 Smash Bros.
Only link.
Followed up by Michael Power whosaid this was such a ride as a
Smash Bros.
Mega fan going from Y the F isZelda on the thumbnail to then
experiencing the rollercoaster.
Cozy was an absolute gentleman,not to dunk on Alex even harder

(01:09:18):
than he did.

Cozy Snap (01:09:19):
You know what?
Sometimes you just need to knowthat you've won the battle
already.
Again, it's like at this pointI'm dating Alex, he's my wife.
So it's like, I know I'm right,but I just, especially with how
beautiful you look today.
I know I'm right.
I just I just kind of.
I let it, I let it work itselfout.
Like when you were like, whatare you willing to bet?
We need a definitive statement.
I was like, my life, like, likeI was ready to throw it all, all

(01:09:42):
on the line.
But yes, I, I, I, well, I toldyou I'd listened to that back.
I think I listened to it twice.
Just to, just to, just a cacklehonestly, the, the hill you, you
were willing to die on.

You know what though?
Sometimes we make mistakes, man.
Yeah.
I forgot an entire console thatsold millions and millions of
copies existed.
You like the, you know what Imean?
And you know what the worst partis?
Obviously I like, do I have togo pull it out?
I have the N 64 Smash Bros.

Cozy Snap (01:10:09):
When you go, of course I do.
When you go, when you go, maybethere's a chance.
We're both right.
I think that's my favorite.
'cause I'm like, no, there's no.
There's just, there's none.
But yeah, that, that was likeone of my more favorite random
subjects we've talked about oneof these days, guys, we keep
talking about, one of these dayswe just wanna do a podcast where
we talk about anything andeverything.

(01:10:30):
Even if we get like 500 viewers,we'll find a time.
We'll make it.
Yeah, that,

that would be fun, honestly.
And undead egg Meister comes inwith the next question and it
reads, Alex finally admitted hewas wrong about Smash, but still
refuses to admit that he's wrongwith Zao.

Cozy Snap (01:10:45):
Oh, he'll die if you think he'll die in the Zelda.
He'll, he will actually diebefore he mentions anything nice
about aero and anything goodabout Zbu.
That's just the two things thatmake Alex, coach Alex, coach a
AC.

I actually just, I, I kind of forgot I had
this pulled aside.
I didn't, I just kind of giveZao a little bit of a fist bump,
like literally four months didmonths ago.
Did two

Cozy Snap (01:11:03):
and, and like two episodes ago, you like finally
admitted it as well.
That's true.

But I will tell you, arrow, complete
garbage.
Yeah.
Ate the cart.
She would just do delete fromSnap's Gonna take another year
if they put arrow in rivals.
I like, I, I don't even knowwhat you're gonna do.
Like I don't want to, I don'teven wanna know what your
channel's gonna look

Cozy Snap (01:11:18):
like.
Implo my man.
Dude, you wanna see somethingcool.
Hold on.

I do wanna see something.
Cool.
So for the audio viewers, cozyis somewhat off camera.
He's getting something.
He's back.
Is that an Arrow comic?

Cozy Snap (01:11:31):
It is a

graded, graded

Cozy Snap (01:11:32):
9.8.
If you guys know Comic grades,this is a, this is a gym Arrow
edition number one.
You're welcome.
I don't, I don't just, I don'tjust preach.
I practice what I preach.
A man.
Okay.
Where'd you get that?
Heaven.

Did you buy it graded or did you buy the comics
then graded?
It was, it was a

Cozy Snap (01:11:52):
gift and it was the best gift I've ever received.

That is incredible.
I honestly did.
I know you, I don't even think Iknew you had that.
No, that's a surprise to me.
It's,

Cozy Snap (01:12:01):
it's relatively new.
It's really, I gotta, I gottakeep, gotta keep the the arrow
game strong, man.
I, I would have posters, butit's a little too wa wifey, so I
had to tame down on those.

You know what you gotta do is just put a
poster above your bed so whenyou and your wife lay down, you
just see Arrow and she getsWatch it over

Cozy Snap (01:12:16):
me.
Right next to the Alex Kochaposter.
Yep.
Coming suit.
That's right.

Honest pretense comes in with our next
question and a lot of love, cozyfor the the board game shout
outs that you gave last week.
Speaking of physical games,another one that I think you
guys would love is Dice Throne.
If you haven't heard of it,killer, it's the best way to
describe it as battle ysi, youpick a character to play as you
roll dice to activate differentabilities to defeat your
opponent.
There are even multiplecharacters released for it,

(01:12:41):
including Marvel characters.
Cozy.
Guess what I get to do?
I get to do exactly what youjust did.
Low key.
I get to disappear.

Cozy Snap (01:12:46):
Which one do you have?
Loki?
Which one?
He's coming back.
Alex is gone.
He's running fast.
Alex runs a a a 9 7 40 yarddash.
Pretty fast.
By comparison, an elephant runsa six seven.
Alex does have some speed dualAlso, Alex is wearing pink
today.
We did not address it.
Be sure to put in the comicsthat he's beautiful like Barbie.

(01:13:07):
Nice, nice.
He's showing his dice King withs lock on the cover and dys,
sorry.
And he's got ooh, the classicX-Men 97 build.
Absolute beauty there.
Dude, that was that's sick man.
I like it.
That, that gives a lot of fun.
I should have had it

prepared.

Cozy Snap (01:13:24):
I feel like you got, you get a lot of stuff that you
don't play though, like, youknow what I mean?
'cause you don't have the time.
You can tell it's still sealed.
Yeah.
It's like you got the magiccommander car sealed, you know,
you got that sealed.
You got the, you just boughtoblivion, but then you also
bought you, you, you, you're aman that has a lot of ambition.

I do.
I have a lot of ambition.
Very little time to actuallyexecute on any of it.

Cozy Snap (01:13:43):
Well, buddy love, love the comments.
Love the smash talk.
Love, love, love you.

Thank you buddy.
And there's one last questionthat needs to be asked, and I
like this one a lot.
Cozy.
This comes from Coot 47, and itreads, if Cozy had to be a
teacher, what would he teachfrom pre-K all the way to
community college or Ivy League?
If Alex had to wait.
What did Cozy do before this?
I feel like he's been an ex carsalesman, or at the very least

(01:14:11):
one of them mall kiosk financeadvisors.
What the hell that or bro soldsurfboards,

Cozy Snap (01:14:18):
first of all.
What the hell on all three ofthose?
That's impeccable.
I was not a used car salesman.
No.
I was also not in a mall kiosk.
Nope.
Nope.
Avoid, I, I, I didn't do thosetwo.
If I was a teacher, that's agreat question.
Like, I'm gonna stick to liketraditional teacher.
Like, I'm not gonna be like, Ican't, great.
I would teach how to, how toYouTube.
I would say I've always been abig fan of history, man.

(01:14:41):
Not gonna lie.
I think traveling the states isreally cool, but we're not old.
I think traveling and, andseeing historic places and where
historic events have happened isso damn underrated.
I've was always an athletefirst, a student second, but in
history, I naturally would geta's and a's pluses'cause I

(01:15:02):
naturally cared a lot that, butI would also teach I how to do
taxes correctly, how to, how tobudget, how to, I wish to God
this was taught more in schoolhow to, how to actually.
Give a damn about that.
Those would be my pupil.
Be a grown person.
Yeah.
Be a grown person.
And not like life skills.

You're saying?
Life skills should be taught.

Cozy Snap (01:15:20):
Yeah, bro.
Like I know what a freaking,like, I, I, I know how to do
algebra, which I guess algebrais kind of important, but like
I, I know how to I don't know.
I, I know things that Ishouldn't know, but here we are.
I don't know.
I,

I think that's right, man.
Life skills are so important andit's funny, right?
Like we.
Our education system focused somuch on so many other things,
but often not enough on theintangibles that makes great
people.
Great.
And so I like what you saidthere, and actually, to be
honest with you, you wanna talkabout history and making content
on history.
I'll give you an idea for youknow, a video on one of your
other 12 channels.

(01:15:52):
You could do, I swam to EasterIsland and dug up one of the
statues.

Cozy Snap (01:15:57):
It's a good, it's a banger.
That's a good way to go out to,you know, like get the jail time
after.
But like, at least the video'spopping.
I.

If you start swimming from California, how
far and long do you think itwould take for you to hit Easter
Island?

Cozy Snap (01:16:10):
One.
I

think

Cozy Snap (01:16:12):
after about 10 minutes.
You're in good shape, though.
I would die, so we would neverknow.
I would die.
I, I'm in good shape, row, but Idon't know, man.
Swimming is, is a, is hard, likewhen I go surfing and it's been
a while, bro.
There's like 19 muscles that Ijust forgot to use.
In fact, I went surfing theother day and I had to, I dunno

(01:16:32):
if I can show this on camera.
I had to where is it man?
Where is it?
Cozy ISS pulling off his pantsright there.
You see that?

Yeah.

Cozy Snap (01:16:40):
I got cups on my neck.
I had to get cupping done on myneck.
'cause it was it was, you knowwhat cupping is?
I don't know what cupping

is.

Cozy Snap (01:16:46):
No, what cupping is, bro.
I swear you don't go outside.

That's a fact.
It's, it's nothing cool.
Yeah, don't go outside.

Cozy Snap (01:16:51):
It's like you, you haven't seen where they like
light the match under the cupand.
To your skin and it like pullsoff.
That sounds awful.
Why would you do that?
It is so, it sounds torts.
It is.
It is.
But it it's good for the body,good for the soul.
It's

like the thing that they used to do like the
plague doctors used to do onpeople with the black plague.
It's funny you

Cozy Snap (01:17:05):
say that.
It was a plague.
Doctor Who, who did it to me?
Guys, thank you so much forcoming to this episode of the
Snapchat where you can learnabout beautiful things here,
like me drowning the ocean.
Plug doctors.
And a whole lot more.
Alex Kocha.
Beautiful as always.
Please comment, one to 10, wouldyou take'em on a date?
And we appreciate you as always,guys.
Have a good one.
Have a great one.
To the next one, happy.

(01:17:25):
What do, what do you say?
What do you say?
What do you say?
I

say happy,

Cozy Snap (01:17:28):
snapping happy, snapping happy.
No, that's my thing.
I

don't know what I say.

Cozy Snap (01:17:32):
Until the next one, happy snapping.

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