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Cozy Snap (00:00):
What's going on guys?
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And welcome back to anotherepisode of the Snapchat.
My voice is to so disregarded,but we head into a cool week
with Concho.
Fans of Moon Night would knowand discard lovers rejoice
because he could resurrect thearchetype as a whole.
We're gonna break him down inwhat we think he'll bring to
Snap alongside high voltage, thebest X best cards within the
game mode.
And a really cool segmentlooking back at our favorites of
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all time.
Just a fun catch up if you guysenjoy a little bit of nostalgia.
We're gonna talk about that alltoday, more on this episode of
the Snapchat.
And as always, I'm joined by theone, the only, Mr.
Alex Kocha.
Hello my friend.
Happy Monday.
We are back on a Monday, guys.
Glad to have you guys all here.
Dude, I am coming.
I'm first of all dressed in asuit because in just a small bit
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I'll be casting the grandfinals.
We're shooting this on theSunday before, and dude, I can
confidently say in all my timebeing a content creator, I've
done a thousand, a thousand plusvideos.
I've done other events.
I'm gassed.
I'm absolutely out of it.
Like I have never used my voice.
More energy, more, I'm on twodays in a row of just like all
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day commentary.
And then to go into a podcaststraight into the grand finals,
bro, I just shot my vocal chordsin half.
Alexander Coccia (01:11):
You know what
though?
I gotta tell you, first of all,I know I keep saying it, but
you're doing a phenomenal joband it's great to watch and I've
been watching a lot and it'sfunny'cause like I was watching
last night and it was likealmost 1:00 PM my time and I was
like, man, 1:00 AM cozy.
Still ripping it.
He's been going for like sixhours.
And I'm like, and I fell asleep.
Right.
And you were still going.
And what I will tell you thoughis I was thinking about this,
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you talked about it last week,about how, like, you know, the
competitive scene in sma snap.
Oh my gosh, whatever.
Yeah.
Marble snap.
The the competitive scene wouldbe like, really good.
And it'd be cool if we hadgotten it off the ground and
stuff like that.
To give you some perspective,watching you cast rivals and
watching the pro teams andstuff, I was like, huh.
I wanna play some damn rivals.
Right.
And I've been playing more nowsince watching you cast than I
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have like pretty much sincelaunch because it got me back
into the scene.
Like I was excited about likethe scene and I'm excited about
the game and I'm playing, I'mseeing pros do things and
picking characters that I'minterested in playing.
And like it kind of brings youback.
Yeah.
The competitive scene brings.
You back and that's why ThinkMoral Snap could've used that.
Cozy Snap (02:10):
Yeah, for sure.
I thought you were gonna go moreon rivals.
I'm like, oh man.
People literally like, topcomments are like, I don't wanna
hear Rival talk.
I'm like, Alex, opening up withthe rival talk.
It'd be a great one today.
No, listen.
I agree, man.
It, it brings so much hype andexcitement and like, like, it,
it makes you wanna becompetitive even though you at
like such a different ladder of,you know, the top players, you
know, even in something likerivals, but in Snap.
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And funny enough, we have areally cool section today.
Sorry guys if I'm a little bitsounding a little on the entire
side, but we have a really coolsection today talking about kind
of like our, our favorite cardsof all time archetypes and like
time in Snap.
And some of that was around whenthere was kind of like the early
heartbeats of that competitiveplay.
'cause it was super cool to see,especially because you see.
These people that we look at assome of the top players in the
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game and what they are gonnabring into a elimination, you
know, scenario.
And, and I think it's, andactually we haven't even seen
truly like elimination scenariostuff that much in Snap and it
just brings out the best inpeople when the backs against
the wall.
Like, again, not to bring uprivals, but we had a team that
was Owen six, so they lost everysingle game and then they go
into elimination round and they,they start winning and they beat
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one of the best teams.
And it's like.
It's so cool when your back'sagainst the wall to see that and
it pro in eSports scenes createthat snap could ever be an
eSport, but to even have like acompetitive scene would be so
freaking cool, man.
And yeah, it's been, it's been alot of fun.
And looking at Snap Man, we'vegot ourselves a, a good one.
Even between all the castingwhile I've been waiting, I got
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some high voltage games in.
You know, cool to have that gamemode back.
Definitely, definitely try to,you know, I was grinding it to
get, to get to get ghost writermade me realize how much I loved
sanctum, by the way.
That that was just a fun, fun,fun game mode in all and got
lots to break around aroundthat.
Some interesting news thatleaked as well in Marvel Snap
China, I think is gonna blowpeople's minds.
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Saw that.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
You saw, you know what I'm gonnatalk about.
And then also, bro, you see thislittle red mark, right, right
here.
This is what I love about havingkids today.
Wanted to make sure I get sometime with my son.
Before I had a busy day casting,my son was like, Hey, Zach, can
I go on your shoulders?
Can I go?
And I'm like, yeah, absolutely.
Get on up.
He just decided to bite me todayon my forehead, and I was like,
you know what?
That's just par for the course.
(04:18):
Like, just total, just a Did youkid, did your kids go through a
biting phase?
He's not in a biting phase, buthe, he definitely had one, I
think like a year ago orsomething like that.
But today he is like, you knowwhat, I'm gonna just try it out.
This is the beauty of havingkids.
Alexander Coccia (04:29):
First of all,
didn't I talk about last week
how one of my kids bit my otherone?
I feel like I might have broughtthat up at some point.
I think so, actually.
I think so.
Yeah.
It feels like a frequentconversation, but one thing I
will say is it's, it's actuallyyour fault that you got bit, and
I'll tell you why.
I know that that your sonwatches the Snapchat back, and
right above your head is a Jeff,the baby land shark, and that
Jeff, the baby, land shark,looked like it's about to bite
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you.
And so he's just reenacting whathe's seeing on the Snapchat
cozy.
So this is your fault.
Cozy Snap (04:56):
So we.
I think it was the first day Iwas casting, I saw what the cut
was of my, my, my cam, and I waslike, dude, I'm gonna, I had
this little Jeff and they onlygave away these at Comic-Con.
I was like, I gotta put thisthing right there in the frame.
And yeah, that's gonna be a,that's gonna be a steaky that's
gonna stay there.
But but yeah, it, it's been,it's been a lot of fun.
Again, probably some of the mostcooked I've been ever, but I, I
just, I made a promise to myselfthat we could not miss this
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Monday coming up.
It was too important.
So even with the grand finals.
I'm like, no, we gotta get someSnapchat talking.
Gotta have some fun buddy today.
So let's get right into it.
We know what we're talking aboutover here.
Alex, what are we talking abouton your side of the Snapchat?
I.
Alexander Coccia (05:31):
Cozy.
We're gonna be talking aboutfire hair.
We're gonna be giving ourreview, our thoughts and going
through some general ideas andconcepts with the card.
We'll also be discussing thebest cards in Marvel Snap
statistically right now.
It's always a fun conversation.
And as always, our Snapchatmailbag.
Cozy Snap (05:45):
I love it'cause you
have fire hair.
Okay guys, I have fire hair downthere because I.
First put forehand in reviewbecause Alex, when he sent me
the topics he wanted to talkabout, he put forehand instead
of fire hand.
And I was like, I just want tojust copy and pasta that.
But we got fire hand, we'regoing and people are gonna even
know the real name of that cardby the time we're done with all
this.
But yeah, dude, we've got conshoot today and listen I might
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be cooked right now, but I'mexcited about ksu to talk about
ksu, first of all, just as acharacter.
I love him.
You know, again, really good inthe show.
Of moon night.
But also I think he bringssomething really cool to
discard.
We talked a lot about him andwhat he might be.
I think you were a little bitnervous of like the ultimate
usage of him and getting him towork when we last talked.
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Certainly.
We'll break him down a bittoday.
I'm gonna lean pretty highactually on him.
I got him as a four star, prettysolid for a couple reasons.
But what about you?
Alexander Coccia (06:38):
I've been
leaning in the three star range
and I'm excited to try him, butI feel like the setup.
Is pretty intense, but naturallyhe's gonna work with with the
ghost rider.
And I mean, we've had, we haveso much targeted discard that's
coming into Marvel Snap thatlike, that should benefit a card
like k.
But I'm still tentative.
I'm still a little tentative.
Cozy Snap (06:57):
Yeah.
Let me read what he does.
By the way, if you don't know onscreen, you're looking at a six
five.
He does have several, severaldifferent forms and we've got'em
all today, but he's a six five.
When you discard this, return iton the next phase on Reveal,
resurrect a card, you discard itto another location and set it's
power to five.
If you get rid of that, you goup, you go to seven, and then if
you do that again, he can go upto 12.
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He has three forms.
Super cool, great concept, andpretty excited to see.
So obviously.
You know, best case scenario,you're getting 24 power out
there on, on a revive, which isinsane.
It's really good, obviously, forseveral reasons.
I think.
Here's the thing about Ka.
I think people look at'em andthey think we can maybe get a
new kind of archetype and thingsthat, you know, create maybe a
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revival archetype.
Can Silver Sam, I finally comeback in the picture.
Let's look at some of the bigvalue cards like Iron Man
looking at it kind of wonky too.
We're gonna have to see how itplays out.
I know.
I.
Like Phoenix force is a littleweird with setting power.
So like, you know, brood is agreat example, or Mr.
Sinister, these cars we've seenbefore, but sometimes the reveal
happens before the power set.
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So we don't really know howthat's gonna work you know, on,
in the engine.
But this is why give him a fourstar because I think he's going
to be, bro.
I, I seriously think this isgoing to be.
Essentially as close as we'llever get to the old Chavez
dependable, discard that we had.
Now obviously the deck thinning,what was is, what was so good
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about that?
Okay.
But also, as you would remember,Dracula getting a guaranteed six
power or big card to, to getthat power from was a huge piece
of that deck.
I just like him in that mold.
Having a modoc on five,potentially having really good
place.
You have swarm in handpotentially.
Apocalypse could be in your handalready too.
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Dracula could already be on theboard.
And then you go in and, youknow, on turn six that you've
got KSU as a 12 potentially forDracula as a play.
Or even better if you getapocalypse and con shoe and
let's say swarm at best casescenario.
You could then get the boar to astate that you like.
You could play the swarms downto max out locations to
guarantee con concho to summonin the location that you want
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to, you're gonna get valuealmost all of the time out of
that six seven's, not a sixnine, but six twelves better.
So depending on how much you canget him activated.
So it's funny, man, I looked athim as a really cool card to do,
interesting things to discard,but I like him more in that
dependable build because I thinkthat's where he's gonna get his
value, building thatconsistency.
Alexander Coccia (09:24):
Key things
that I think is worth noting
when trying to build aroundKaju.
And I love everything that, thatyou're saying because I was one
of the absolute biggest fans ofdependable discard.
Yeah.
And once they changed Chavez, itwas never quite the same.
And since then, we've seen anumber of different versions of,
of discard kind of emerge,right?
You had almost dependablediscard.
And then what you had was, youhad like the the Black Knight
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variance.
Now you have the bullseyevariance, you had the Moon
Knight variance, and even tosome degree you had the
Blackpool stature variance aswell.
We haven't had this kind quitelike not quite right.
And what I think I really wannafixate on with what you were
saying was there are some cardsthat don't necessarily get
discarded while allow you tointeract with Conche.
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With something like a Modoc, forinstance, proximal midnight.
We will generate value on theboard but not actually counted
as dis as a discarded card.
So if you think about your handon turn five, if you have
Ironman proximal, midnightSwarm, Concho, and Apocalypse,
right?
Of all those cards beingdiscarded, only the Iron Man is
gonna be targetable by Concho.
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And so there's like thismultiple avenue of discard
targeting.
You have what can actually bediscarded and enter the discard
pile.
Yep.
And what cards can you use toactivate consu and the cards
you're discarding.
Cozy Snap (10:40):
But that's what I
think is cool about the
dependable build is Bec Andthat's a great point.
You bring a great point therebecause you're not always gonna
be able, sometimes you consu issjust gonna be there for the
Dracula play.
Right.
But what I think is cool aboutthat is there is times too where
Modoc, right, potentially, orbuilding up to that, you know,
you get rid of that Dracula andyou're like, oh damn.
Right.
I mean, bro, the way theychanged Dracula cons, you could
bring'em back to a, to a to a12, a seven even.
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That's the value that you'relooking at.
'cause discard is a, is a teamgame, right?
You know, you've got more BSgetting benefit from it.
You get Dracula getting benefitand then everything else kind of
cooks together with it.
You know?
Now things like Proxima as well.
And so it's like one interactionis having seven different things
build up.
And I think cons, you kind ofspeaks more to that, right?
Because you're able to continueto get the ball rolling in
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several lanes.
And we've had problems in thepast sometimes with swarm, let's
say into APAC drag becauseyou're like.
What do, like I'm trying tobuild up the moria, so I wanna
keep the swarms, but then whatdo I, but now it's kind of like,
oh, it makes a bit more sense'cause you have KSU guaranteed
to come back.
I love the chances.
I mean, the chances of beingable to get KSU built up goes up
way more if you have either himor Apocalypse Now you kind of
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have two of these win ishconditions in a way.
That you can discard early andoften, whether it be the lucky
blade pole, but also, you know,more specifically obviously the
moon night that I think is a bitmore of a better chance, or even
going back to his first form.
I mean, the first Ghost riderhas a, a, a shot to get rid of
KSU at a six five at that, youknow, you got Lady S in there
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and so you're able to have amuch better chance to get him
building up.
Especially going into that, Ithink Modoc is gonna be a huge
piece to this, and it just.
Getting away from the sillystuff that you can do with this
card and the Ironman andwhatnot.
I think that true build is gonnabe awesome and give this card a
chance.
Alexander Coccia (12:26):
I actually
like the Modoc call because I
think one of the challenges ofthe cont, and first of all, when
I say three stars, this is likeone of those cards where I want
to be wrong on because like I.
I can see it being incrediblyfun for the entire archetype.
And honestly like the more wayswe have to play snap in like
unique frames, I think it makesthe game more fun.
Right.
And like for instance, I had alot of fun this week'cause I was
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playing like Thanos for thefirst time in a while.
And I think that bringing backarchetypes actually kind of
reinvigorates people's interestin the game with Modoc.
It solves one of the keychallenges for Conchos decks,
which is that you have todiscard a lot of things to kind
of activate the effect.
You have six turns in MarvelSnap.
This is not the type of deckthat's gonna run a magic, so you
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have six turns.
Like, you only have so manyopportunities to discard Concho
multiple times.
Discard a card you want todiscard for con's effect.
And so Modocs a good catchallwhere it's like, hey, you get a
Concho proc and you get to giveit at least something to target
with the downside of, well, youdiscarded, you know, Dracula and
you discarded whatever Ironman.
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You don't know which one you'regonna bring back.
Cozy Snap (13:33):
Yeah.
What's cool about it though?
And yeah, it, it, I think Khelps again, just like what
Chave did I.
Shu is gonna aid Modoc more thananything.
What I also thought was cool isif you look at the cards that
would want to you know, Shu tohit, especially Alex in the
discard archetype, this is wherethings get interesting, right?
Because first of all, we justtalked about Dracula getting up
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to any of the value, I don'tcare, 4 5, 4 7, 4 12.
Big win.
Okay?
Dracula's gonna win his lane nomatter what most of the time
anyway.
So good stuff, right?
And that's where I'm like, cool.
You get Concho down a couple ofswarms and you have like a
another lane padded up.
Dracula should win the otherone.
But then if you think about it,it's like, okay, there's some
other big winners here.
Okay?
Obviously Meek is, is lowpowered, cool, you know,
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whatever.
But more specifically, morus.
Now there's a couple cool thingsabout Morus here.
First of all.
I dunno about you, but yeah,playing'em on curve feels great.
Like if you get morus on curve,you get'em down.
Like I feel my chances have goneup so much to win in a discard
deck.
Right?
But now we got some interestingthings.
Okay.
You had the first ghost writerwho he could get rid of Morby.
Oh no.
Well that's great.
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You get the two six still fromthe, the first ghostwriter.
Okay.
And now all of a sudden you'vegot Morby in the discard pile
that RA can bring back with.
Extra power to go into it.
So at worse, we're looking atMobius now as a potential four
seven because of the firstdiscard, just to start things
out with ksu.
So it's kind of all marriedtogether really well here.
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And, and I think that's what'sinteresting about it.
I don't know if Mo moon Knight'sgonna make the deck, but you
also have these synergy ofattacking too.
So you've got this kind of twofor one thing going on.
It's just so cool.
And, and discard has always beenat its best time and time again.
Sure.
Hella.
But at its, I don't evenconsider hella discard.
Right?
At its best I is.
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When we know what's gonna happenand you get that same dependable
result.
We saw it with Chavez, theyneared it.
We saw it with Apocalypse for awhile.
They had to take him down.
Right?
And now I think we're gonna beable to return to that in a way
that feels fair and competitive.
And I think Kasha could bringit.
Alexander Coccia (15:33):
It's entirely
possible.
Like.
I think the thing that likereally brings me back to wanting
to like Concho, and I think Iultimately, I think this card's
gonna be good, is that it has somany different play lines,
right?
And you, you mentioned likecards like Silver Samurai,
right?
A card like Silver Samurai hasseen almost no play.
Now it gets an opportunity toshine again.
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And you can also consider thaton turn three, you can moon
night.
Which would and could hit Conchowhile also disrupting your
opponent.
Silver Samurai will disrupt youropponent and discard something
like an Ironman or a Gore orwhatever you might want to
discard.
And Gore's another one I shouldmention too, because discard has
a lot of on reveals justnaturally.
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And gore starts to shine whenyou have decks where there's
lots of on reveals on the boardanyway, on your side alone, and
you're not really relying onyour opponent.
So you take the power.
And so like when you start tothink about the curve, it starts
to make sense.
You're literally disrupting youropponent every step of the way.
Well also on turn five, then youcan do a wide discard, activate
the cons, you get your swarmsout and et cetera.
Cozy Snap (16:36):
Yeah, I think we're
gonna see two decks, right?
We're gonna see the moredependable kind of less risk
deck, and then we're gonna seethis kind of.
Moon night Silver Samurai intopotentially, you know, proximal
midnight, you know, and, andthat kind of deck with a, like,
you want to discard your cards,you wanna play things out there.
And, you know, that's whereCorvus GLA is gonna come in.
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We, we gave him a lot of props.
I mean, you get corvus out thereall of a sudden and it's looking
awesome.
'cause then you could play KSUwithout worrying about if you
don't get the modoc.
Like GLA doesn't really have abad card to hit in a consu deck.
Because you're, as you justsaid, you know, we opened up the
podcast.
It's so funny, dude, if I didn'thave, I haven't made a YouTube
video on any of my channels inlike a week and days, and so I,
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because of my voice, I would belosing you right now for this
card because I would get, thisis what gets, this is what gets
me excited, man, is because youhave swarm apac, proximal
concho, the list goes on.
Wolverine got a little buff and,and now it's like, okay, Corvus,
his value is just becoming.
Insane three five with the freeenergy.
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And then you can really buildinto that.
Not to mention the two discards.
And then if you were to discardsomething, t you's got that
revive.
And there was always a downsideto that.
'cause you're not running ghostrider, you're not, hell of us
ran at the beginning with it forsome fun.
But now we've got a card that'sactually good that fits into the
dependable discard build thatcan also bring back a mistake.
And that is, I remember we usedto say this about dependable
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discard Alex, how.
It.
It, when it works, it works.
And when it doesn't it, itdefinitely snowballs in the
wrong direction.
But that's what's cool is that Ifeel like K Shoe adds the
missing piece to make Corvus waybetter.
Alexander Coccia (18:16):
Yeah.
It feels less like a crossroadsand more like you have actual
decisions that you can make.
And to think about Corvus too isonce again, going back to the
idea that you can effectivelydesign your deck with what's
being entered into the discardpalm, what's not.
One that you could discard thatcomes back to your hand is
scorn.
So when you have scorngenerating value, yeah, it gets
hit with the modoc, with withthe, concho now you have seven
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energy turn six.
You could play scoring down,play Concho down and then, you
know, revive something whilegetting the power from, from the
scoring.
And potentially even if you haveapocalypse in the hand, you res
Dracula, it hits the apocalypse.
Like that's gonna be such aneasy win.
It feels like whatever you bringback that gets its power set by
Concho is likely to win itslane.
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'cause if it's like an Ironmanor a Gore or a Dracula.
It's very unlikely those cardsdon't trade their lane unless
Dracula, you didn't draw intoyour apocalypse.
And it got me thinking too, wetalk about two drops, right?
I had a game like literally twodays ago where Morby was like a
28 power card because I wasplaying bullseye and I had it, I
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had the nuts, right?
And so it's like, imagine,imagine if Mobius was like a
card coming in a in a spotlight,cash.
How great that card would be.
Like what a five star card fordiscard that thing is, eh?
Yeah.
And it's an ongoing, sorealistically, even if you don't
play it on two, you play itlater, it's fine.
Like it still keeps its valuethroughout the course of the
game.
Cozy Snap (19:39):
Yeah.
I mean, we just saw that cardcoming in, the data mines
removed that finally get, weremember going back I two years
now, we, we would say, man,every archetype needs.
A mobious, you know, needs thiscard that can really send it
over the top if the right thingshappen.
And, and I think potentiallythat move card coming out, I
forgot the name of it, but thatcould just help move enough
because you have somethingthat's rewarding you for the
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things you wanna do anyway.
And that's why I think Mobiusjust fits so well.
I think for fun we can, I.
Quickly just look at the, youknow, I haven't put a lot of
thought into it, but taking overhere and look at some of the
cars, that Contra could have alot of fun with the value.
I don't think that these aregonna work all that much.
Gore was a great option in thatkind of Silver Samurai moon
night deck that you were talkingabout.
'cause you're already doing allthese honor reveals, you're now
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disrupting.
And then you can also haveobviously just stupid value no
matter what.
Like just Consu alone is just,consu makes score a minimum
seven.
And that's just if those twowere played, right?
So it's like, you know, you'regonna be able to build him up
to, to some crazy stuff.
Any other ones that you like inhere at the, that low cost?
You're like, obviously Iron Manis, is is the nuts.
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That's pretty crazy.
Things that, you know, you couldsee there, you can't go anything
with like Artem Zola.
I know there's actually a periodof time where people were doing
like the the Dracula Zula, youknow?
What about Meek?
Do you think Meek fits into thispicture at all?
Alexander Coccia (20:54):
I don't think
Meek will make it.
And I'm someone who likes Meekand the bullseye discard deck, I
had Meek in it and obviously acard that would get above like
15 Power very regularly and alsobe able to move, which is pretty
useful.
I like Meek a lot.
I don't think it ultimatelymakes these decks because I
think that, how do I say this?
I feel like KSU is gonna be avery deliberate build.
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And I do think though.
I do think though it's likelythat the best versions of Concho
may have apocalypse despite thefact Oh, for sure.
That they kind of step on theirtoes a little bit.
Like they're almost at odds witheach other.
Yeah.
But I think with the likes ofModoc and Corvus, gla, you can
kind of have your cake and eatit too.
With those two I.
So I think that one of thechallenges we had with discard,
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especially with traditional kindof like dependable discard, was
that if you didn't draw yourapocalypse, like you were just
cooked, right?
Like there was not, you couldpotentially get rid of your
Chavez, but then like theDracula play made no sense.
However, I.
Here with Concho, you have acard you wanna play on turn six.
That's a discard card that'sbeen discarded multiple times.
And so having apo apocalypse inhand as a trigger for that
(22:01):
Dracula could be potentiallyvaluable, but also it gives you
a plan B.
If you don't draw into yourconcho, you're basically playing
dependable.
Discard.
Cozy Snap (22:09):
Yeah, it's definitely
what I was opened up with and,
and, and I agree.
I think when you look at thedeck as a whole.
Meek doesn't make it'cause Bladedoes.
I would rather a chance to getConci built up early or
apocalypse built up early oreven worse case scenario.
This talking about Corvus gla iswhat's gonna open up the one
drop because you're going have amuch better shot now.
(22:30):
Like how cool would it be to beable to play Meek on six
potentially or something, andthen you can move him around
with that.
With the Conche, right?
Or Conche resurrect him.
But I would almost rather haveConsu played on six.
We have Dracula down, resurrectsa blade.
Takes'em to a one, seven,whatever it might be, right?
Blade.
Blade, then discards again.
Mobius goes up a pock and handgoes up, Dracula discard, and
(22:52):
then kind of you snowball fromthere.
That's just such a better linethan Meek.
So that's where I think probablyBlade gets that spot over, you
know, pretty confidently overMeek.
Not like those two alwayscompeting, but that's what just
makes Blade so good.
It, it is like.
It was like the old copy, youknow, it's like copycat, you
know, you could see you got thatsnap condition blade at times.
You got the snap condition.
Feels really good.
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Works out well.
So yeah, I like it a lot.
Those are my main talking pointson ksu.
I think he's got, I think he'sgot a really good chance to
bring back discard in a greatway.
Alexander Coccia (23:25):
Those are mine
too.
And I, I agree.
And I think the thing I'm mostexcited for is cards like Corvus
that I've not played in a while.
And also the risk of like, youcan't just continuously discard
Concho, right.
Or also the moon will haunt you.
Like apocalypse can be discardedad nauseum.
But Concho, once you discardhim, once he's at his full moon
(23:48):
status.
See you later bud.
He's just gone.
So I, I like the skill cap sideof that too, where you just
can't be reckless with it.
I think that's fun.
Cozy Snap (23:55):
Well, buddy, we'll go
ahead and transition now into
high voltage and the week ofhigh voltage.
I've seen a lot of people, I'veseen actually a little bit of
mix of everything about highvoltage.
You know, we'll be a littlequick with it.
We've seen the game mode acouple of times now.
You know, we've seen in myexperience.
Wanna ask you what Dex you'replaying.
Obviously opening up with whatwas dependable last time,
talking about dependable stuff,the Black Panther deck.
(24:17):
I mean, it's such an easy way toget things rolling.
There's this big debate rightnow on like, do you play tech
cards?
Is that an unfair thing?
I think it's like, play how youwanna play the game at the end
of the day.
Is there a, is there a moralcompass behind it?
I'll let you guys decide.
So I was doing a little bit ofthat, but man, I was just
sticking with a lot of patriot.
Alexander Coccia (24:37):
They got rid
of they got rid of Elias.
Damn.
They got rid of damn, damn it.
Right.
I think they made the rightchoices.
Like it's kind of, you know,it's not very interactive.
I honestly, I've been playingsome patriot too.
It's been fun.
Patriot tron, like Tron justgets so much value'cause it
fills the whole board likeeffectively within three turns.
Right.
It's, it's actually reallyawesome.
And I've been playing, there'sone card that's been in all my
(24:59):
decks I've been playing.
That's moonstone because I'vebeen playing the Patriot and
I've also.
Also, I've been playing juststraight up spectrum with Nour.
Yeah.
Listen, the, I know last time Igot made fun of on this very
podcast by yourself and thecomment section, because I said
that Nour was a legitimate card.
It's your favorite card of themonth, Alex Turks.
(25:19):
I played it more.
I played it more, and I wasstreaming on Twitch drops.
Thousands of people werewatching me.
I was crushing with Nir and I, Isaid it a million times, man,
the card is good in this modebecause you have limited turns,
it puts up huge value and youget to disproportionately reach
into those locations.
Easy dubs,
Cozy Snap (25:37):
bro.
I find it so funny.
I was, you know, when I wascommenting commentating rivals,
I was watching you Nir.
If you guys don't know, don'tkeep up with it.
Nur is really good in that game.
He's, he's just extremely solidhero.
And I was watching Nur, I can'teven find him on the stupid
thing.
I was watching him and I waslike, man, it'd be cool to have
Nur in Snap.
And then I was just like, oh, ohyeah, he's in the ga Like, bro,
(25:59):
I, I, he's so bad.
I forget.
He's in this game at, at alltimes.
But yeah, you're right, dude.
Spectrum has been doing good.
I mean, spectrum has been a, a,a, a, a solid build, Sarah kind
of making the way.
Have you been playing Sarah inthat?
Alexander Coccia (26:11):
No, I haven't
been.
No.
Sarah.
I've seen
Cozy Snap (26:13):
Sarah.
I, I wanted get somebody who hadSarah and I was like, oh, wow.
That was a, like, there's justso much momentum from that, bro.
You know what has been cooking?
Is is Star brand decks, bro.
The Surey it, it just worksreally well in high voltage
because you're able to quicklyget the Wombo power combos out
and then all of a sudden, youknow, star brands kind of con is
(26:33):
like not as big of a deal.
And because what did we talkabout?
That deck suffers so bad from soon.
And that, having thatcontention, but when you have
all that energy, it just doesn'tmatter'cause you're able to get,
you know, have your cake and eatit too.
So if you haven't played playingSurey, probably even without
Star brand, hasn't been bad.
I.
Alexander Coccia (26:50):
That's
hilarious.
It's funny'cause like I actuallydid do some Surey Nimrod, but I
didn't have Star brand in thatdeck.
I should have, man, I want, ohman.
I wanted to love that card somuch.
I'm still hoping.
I'm still hoping there's an OTthat brings Sarah onto to a
tutu.
That's what we talked aboutthen.
Star brand's.
Unbelievable.
Cozy Snap (27:05):
It's what solved the
problem for that deck I got when
I was playing and I was like,oh, this is just the problem.
It's just that you.
There's not enough turns to getthe value of what you need and
energy to go around.
Yeah.
And that kinda like solved thatproblem.
So that was really good.
We're seeing, honestly, bro, andI knew we, we, we would see this
at some point.
We're just seeing like, justgood cards, just get put into
one deck.
Man.
I, you know, I've gone against iI relentless amount of just like
(27:27):
aga Motos, iron Patriots.
I've seen those cards 5,000times.
Most new season pass cards, ofcourse we're seeing, you know
relentlessly in the new gamemode.
And then fricking Falcon CaptainAmerica Falcon is, is just still
doing his thing in that gamemode.
Alexander Coccia (27:40):
I know it's
the, the season pass cards, as
we discussed last week have beenpretty prevalent.
But I have to be honest withyou, like just a overall recap
and review.
I, I like high voltage a lot.
It's fine.
And I feel like I'm seeing a lotof different decks and I feel
like I'm bringing a lot ofdifferent decks.
And even when I have missionsthat are like spend energy and
play drops, like, well, I'mbuilding a deck with only six
(28:00):
drops.
I put literally wave.
Luna Snow and all six drops havefinished my missions and I'm
like, perfect.
I feel great right now.
Winning, losing, doesn't matter.
I'm getting, I'm working towardsGhost Rider, which I hadn't
unlocked yet.
Despite the fact I've beenplaying quite a bit.
You can get'em from like airmanstuff.
I had someone on the first dayhit me with like one that had a
crackle on.
I was like, buddy, what isgoing?
And I realized it was an A fromcard, but, man, I'm, I'm glad
(28:23):
high voltage is there.
I do find it interesting thoughthat they released it this week,
not next week.
'cause usually it comes out onthe last week.
Yeah.
And it's only one week, not two.
So I don't know what likeinformation they're getting.
I would rather, they do like twoweeks and because like if you
miss some of the rollovers ofthe missions, you won't unlock
the card for free.
I'm not sure.
I love the idea of Marvel Snaphaving like an aggressive, like,
(28:45):
you want a free card?
Well, we're hooking you baby.
Yeah.
I think you gotta play our
Cozy Snap (28:49):
game.
It could be that.
It could be that.
I don't know if they know theycan get the players.
For two weeks, right?
Like how many people canconsistently with no bots go
into that game mode?
'cause if you already have therewards, right, how many are
gonna go back and just keepwhatever, right?
Like that might be the reason.
But yeah, I do agree.
I wish it was longer.
It feels like, like sanctum feltlike a great amount of time.
I feel like that went on forjust, just long enough.
(29:11):
And this is what makes Snapgreat.
'cause the core gameplay is thatgood.
It's that good that you getthese limited time game modes
and then it just adds that muchmore to the game.
And speaking of that dude.
You guys joke all the time.
We've seen comments from, we'renot getting draft mode.
Stop bringing it up.
We bring it up every episode,and then, bro, I'm scrolling
Twitter.
(29:31):
All right.
It's nothing but eSports rightnow.
On my Twitter, they'relistening.
They know I'm doing it, I swear.
And then I just see this tweetthat Marvel Snap China is
getting draft mode, and I'mlike, ah, it's just whispers.
And then I saw screenshots andI'm like, oh my gosh, they're
actually getting it.
Bro, that pisses me off.
Like I, I honestly, like, I getthat they're, they're, they're,
(29:52):
it's cool that they can maybetrial it a little bit, but I'm
like, there's no shot that we'vehad it snap for two years.
They know this is what theplayers have wanted and I would
assume a good about, and thenit's like they got it first.
We don't know anything about itoutside a couple screenshots.
It looked kind of cool with someof the design that they built.
But hey, this could be the stepto getting it as a limited time
(30:12):
game mode.
Alexander Coccia (30:13):
You know what
crossed my mind when I saw that
screenshot, I was like, who'sdeveloping this?
Is it second dinner?
No, I haven't.
Did second dinner make this ordid someone else do it?
Did like someone from new, like,I actually am curious'cause like
full disclosure co like, I don'tknow about you cozy, I know
nothing about this.
This was a total surprisepicture like.
Yeah, exactly right.
And I was like, man, from myunderstanding, it sounded to me
(30:34):
like there was no, almost nohope that we were gonna get a
draft mode at all.
Then all of a sudden, there's ascreenshot of it.
I feel like I might've caughtwind of it eventually, and I get
to like, you know, playsurprised on the camera.
But no, I've legit surprisedwhat is going on out here, man.
Cozy Snap (30:47):
I know, dude, you got
the, like the Thanos gauntlet on
top and everything, so, Hey.
Let them figure out what works,what doesn't work.
That way we get a more polishedproduct.
We're almost always the Guineapigs over here in the States.
So it's cool to see kind of howthey're gonna handle it, how it
goes, how it works, and thenthey can maybe work out the
kinks and then even better ifit's not second dinner, doing
the principal design.
(31:07):
'cause I think they have anotherdev team working on the game
because second secondary is theprodu, right?
They, they don't, they, theyhave a d different dev team on
the game.
It's like, dude just has to copythe homework.
You know?
If it's not, then just be like,Hey, great, you guys made it
work.
Can we just, can we just dothat?
Bring it over here, get thecoke, can we copy pasta?
You know, that'd be cool to see.
But anyway, awesome to see itexcited.
(31:28):
If that means we could get itpotentially by early summer,
maybe a little bit later.
We've talked about it before.
If it's not a full game mode,even having it on rotation with
high voltage and sanctum.
It's cool.
That's gonna be, that's gonna belegit, man.
So excited for that.
As we head into our lastsubject, I can hear my vocal
chords begging for life, but wegotta talk about.
(31:52):
Our favorites of all time.
I thought this was such a coolsubject.
We talk often about, you know Imean, on your side we're gonna
talk about the best cards, butwe talk about like our favorite
cards of all time.
You know, we've talked about alot of that.
But I wanna take a look back andAlex and I have prepared zero
notes for this.
We are going off the top of ourheads, which I think will make
it fun.
Maybe a bit more genuine.
Alex, I'm gonna ask you a coupleof just like questions and how
(32:15):
to answer it.
Just go with what you feel wegonna start with.
And I think, funny enough, Icould do your, I feel like I
could answer yours for you onsome of these, but looking back,
what is out of every singlething we've seen in Snap Your
all time favorite archetype thatyou would have to pick?
Silver Surfer.
(32:36):
No question.
I knew it.
It still is.
You still play a lot of it.
Alexander Coccia (32:39):
Yeah, I do.
I love Silver Surfer.
I think it's because it's like,it's like a pizza.
You can eat pizza every singleday for the rest of your life.
You just change the toppingsbaby.
That's it.
I like it.
Silver surfer himself, he's thedough, right?
Am I gonna do some you know,skill monger nova gameplay?
Am I gonna do some SebastianShaw, KO Akia?
Am I gonna do some copycat?
(33:01):
Am I gonna do some Hope Summersand some abs, man?
Am I doing Sarah, am I doing theGwen pool?
Am I doing galata?
There's so many differentversions of Surfer.
You can play that deck a hundredtimes over and every game will
feel a little different.
I love it.
And the three drops have so manytech options, so many tech
options.
Like if, oh gee, I can't get, Ijust, I can't get over it.
(33:23):
I love, I love it.
I just love it.
I,
Cozy Snap (33:25):
I put my prediction
for you and it was surfer, so
I'm one for one.
So far, I'm gonna go withPatriot.
I, I think, even though I maynot be playing Patriot all the
time, I think that at its corevalue, like, I remember when I
first was getting into likelooking at Commander for Magic,
I was like.
That was where I went first.
Like what do I Jordan snap themost?
And I was like, how do Itranslate that over, you know,
to magic terms?
(33:45):
And I was like, it's patriotlike that.
If I were to look at the, thetype that I play the most, the
way that I just like getting thevalue out of it, the dependency
of it, and just the, honestly itmight just be the, either the
free to play MVP deck looking atthe entire time of snap.
Like it's just always had itskind of role in the game.
Obviously that big buff to oldSean helped so much, but that
was my easy answer.
(34:05):
Did you think I was gonna gowith Patriot or something else?
Alexander Coccia (34:07):
I was gonna
say surprise altron, if I had to
guess.
Yeah.
Cozy Snap (34:10):
Yeah.
I mean, that's pretty muchpager, right?
So, okay, next step man.
And this is kind of interestingand this, I think this one is
actually hard.
I put card of all time, so itcould be at any era, any time,
any place.
Alexander Coccia (34:21):
It's easy.
Now, obviously Silver Surfer,I'm not gonna include because I
do love that card, but there'sone specific one from a design
standpoint that I've alwaysloved and it's captain Marvel.
I've always thought the designof Captain Marvel is just
ingenious.
I love the idea that Cap is theone that could, like I.
Just win the game for you.
I think it's a little awkwardhaving multiple Captain Marvels
out.
I wish the AI was a littlebetter at how it handled it, so
(34:43):
like, like moon girling it, likeZao Moon girl into multiple
Captain Marvels.
I wish they did the math on likehow to actually win, not just
take turns guessing on how towin.
But yeah, for me it would beCaptain Marvel.
Cozy Snap (34:54):
I had a hard time.
I was going between a couple.
Obviously like, you know, I,character wise, it's like, it's
Colson, right?
Like obviously, and like how youget to play it and the value out
of it and the fun that you get.
But I think I'm gonna go withlike, what I actually enjoy
playing on a consistentcompetitive level.
It's between two man.
It's, I think I'm gonna go withLegion.
(35:16):
I, it's, it's, it's funny it'sNico and Legion for me.
Like those are the two, like,it's so close to Nico because of
just.
She's at every, it's, it's whereI start with a lot of my decks,
but Legion, I just feel like Brohas just always been that card.
It's always been a game.
Flipper always been good.
It's chaotic, man.
It can win you games.
You're not supposed to win.
(35:37):
And so I think I'm gonna go withLegion for mine.
Alexander Coccia (35:40):
Your wife,
who's are an absolute shambles
right now.
I
Cozy Snap (35:42):
know, I know.
I wanted to go, I, I wanted togo aro.
Hey, aro Colson, they've got aplace.
Irreplaceable in my heart, butI'm going with like playing.
It would be that Colson's closethough.
Colson's very close.
Alexander Coccia (35:53):
You really
coped hard for a long time with
Gene Gray too, but like, I guessshe just let you know maybe it
was gonna work up.
I
Cozy Snap (35:59):
think I said like on
one podcast, I liked her and
ever since Alex is just like,he's just, you know, he's made
me this big Gene gray, gene grayat, I think I liked her.
Like, you know, a couple, acouple weeks.
Hey, it's fine man.
We've all had our flinks.
Alright, you've had your fairamount over there.
You, I mean, you're a devildinosaur guide for.
For a long time.
And then that, that, that, thatcrashed fast, man.
(36:21):
He hasn't been played in adecade.
Listen, this is an interestingba favorite season of all time.
Season pass ever.
Alexander Coccia (36:30):
Ooh, that's
actually art.
I know.
It's a tough
Cozy Snap (36:32):
one to think
Alexander Coccia (36:32):
about.
Cozy Snap (36:32):
I'm trying to think
too.
Alexander Coccia (36:34):
You know what?
I'm just thinking right off thetop of my head.
I went towards Hope Summerswhere I felt like that was a
really fun season, and I likedthat Hope brought something new,
but it didn't destroy the meta,but it like added new types of
archetypes.
It improved surfer ironically.
And I just, I just liked it.
(36:55):
It felt like a greatwell-balanced release that
everyone just appreciated.
That's what came to my headright off the rip.
Cozy Snap (37:03):
I like that.
No, and that's the answer Iwant.
Like I, for me, I actuallythink.
I think it's the I think it'sthe high Evo season.
June of 23 I believe it was.
Right?
Yeah.
'cause Snap came out in 22,right?
So this would be 23'cause it washigh Evo iron lad, which was
just so fun when it came out.
It was so different.
And then living Tribunal, Ithink High Evo was just such a
(37:24):
cool welcome to the game.
And remember the hyper on thatand just like.
We couldn't believe he was gonnaget in.
And it res, it made carsrelevant.
That sucked for so long.
Like that was just such a coolseason.
And I think it was just like hitafter hit.
There's a lot of seasons I couldput close up there.
I actually like the Loki season'cause of how stupid chaotic it
was.
Like it was just nutso.
But that, that's gotta be mine.
Alexander Coccia (37:44):
Yeah, no, I'm
trying to think of other ones
too.
And, I mean for me, I think theZbu season like Zbu came out and
the season sucked.
It was, I was gonna say though,'cause it had the absorbing man
spider Spiderman stuff that wasgoing on.
But like, but Zbu completelychanged the way turn six was
played because of the fact thatyou could shunk Q plus value.
Did those four drop those four?
(38:05):
So, no, I just take it back.
It wasn't my favorite.
It was not my favorite, but I'mjust thinking like in terms of
upending the way Snap wastraditionally played, that was
one of the seasons that did it.
Cozy Snap (38:13):
So I love that you
just said this because my next
question of all of this wasperiod of Snap.
So like the period of time whereSnap was your favorite.
And I legit have in my immediatehead is January to March, 2023
because you, we exited our firstkind of hard balance patches of
of December.
And what we had, we went into atime that was like.
(38:34):
Insanity.
There was so many decks thatwere good, dependable, discard
at its finest.
You know, dark HOK just came outand people were still like,
experimenting with that.
Thanos was on a huge rise.
The competitive scene was fresh.
The new cars felt superimpactful and fun.
That might be the best.
I, I could easily go back tobeta in the first release date,
but that if I'm not pickingthat, it's gotta be that, that
(38:55):
period of time.
Alexander Coccia (38:56):
I like it.
I like that a lot.
And it's funny, you said likegoing back to beta, the first
thing that popped into my mindwhen you mentioned that, I think
it was the moment when Irealized I actually loved this
game.
And it's like the reason why Ikeep playing it to this day.
And I remember I was like, I wasmaking Dota two content at the
time.
I said, you know what, I, I'mnot enjoying this game the way
(39:16):
I, I used to, and I've beenplaying Marvel Snap, which I got
randomly into the beta in monthsafter everyone else did, right?
Like, like banks and TLSG.
I was watching their videos,right?
They, they had literally beenproducing content for the game,
and I was waiting to get intothe beta.
And I remember playing and beinglike, I actually love this game.
This game is so fun.
So I started streaming.
I remember streaming for like,literally the day before the
(39:38):
release.
I, I can bring receipts if Ihave to.
I had an average of like threeviewers.
On my twitch.
I was wild.
And you know what the problemwas?
I loved it.
I, it didn't matter.
It did not matter.
I loved it.
And then I think the period oftime, which really stands out to
me was that launch window when Iwas like, I, I worked really
hard.
I, I had a, a plan, I had like ahundred videos already
(39:59):
pre-planned, and I did myabsolute best on that launch
window, and it worked.
For me, I was like, oh my gosh.
Like I might actually get toplay this game that I love in
front of an audience loving you.
Yeah.
Like it was, it was wild.
And then like that's when we gotintroduced to each other.
Believe it or not, remember Irated you on stream?
I rated you because I rememberbumping into your videos and
(40:21):
like loving them and I ratedinto you and then while you were
live, I remember you saying, Heyman, like we gotta have a
conversation.
I actually, you bumped into myvideos too.
We had very similar energy.
And that's like, that's whatkicked this all off.
Like very like, so yeah, thatwould've been my favorite period
for sure.
Cozy Snap (40:36):
Yeah.
It's funny, for those that don'tknow, I, I've actually seen, so
the kind of the, some of thelore, the Snapchat, I mean, it's
both of our babies.
But like I was sitting there, meand Alex, you know, Alex and me
were becoming but we were justtalking briefly, like we were
talking between each other, justlike, Hey, we match each other's
energies.
It's great.
And then I remember, I want, Iknew I wanted to start a
podcast.
I did some very small podcastfor Pokemon Unite, and I was
(40:56):
like, man, I loved that.
And immediately getting to knowAlex, I was like, this man is
just like, I can already feelhis, like my brother.
Like, I could just feel it.
And I was like the, I immediate,I, I was talking to my wife, you
were streaming at the time and Iwas like, I'm gonna approach
this man that I don't know atall and see if you start a
podcast with me.
I remember we would go and I waslike.
(41:17):
I think I want to call it theSnapchat.
And there's a couple of, youknow at the time there were a
couple hosts I was looking likemolt.
I, I looked in the mole, I wasthinking and I was looking and I
was like, it's gotta be Alex.
It's, I just, I, and I've neverever thought about looking back
because of how immediate funthat was.
Like immediate.
I was looking forward to Sundaysand those videos sucked.
(41:39):
They were not getting viewslike, bro, that was a time in
Snap where I was experimentingwith content.
Doing like different stuff andit would like tank and this was
tanking and I was like, I don'tcare.
Like, it's just so much fun todo and it's been so fun to see
two and a half years later we'vebeen able, and why we still do
it, I think is because of how,how, how now, right now, sound
(41:59):
excited'cause my voice.
But you know, I think that wasjust a pure moment for me that I
knew immediately.
You know, they call it you loveof your life, you know, love.
At first, it's like I knewimmediately the connection that
we would have, you know, rightoff the bat of just like
friendship, you know.
Alexander Coccia (42:13):
It's
absolutely true and it also goes
to show you how like, meaningfulthis, this is the podcast, but
just the opportunity tocollaborate with each other.
Because I'll be honest with you,if it wasn't for you, I, I,
there was times during thisjourney that I might have, I
might have given up, I mighthave, I.
You know, hung up my skates asthey like to say.
And you powered me through thosethings, like those adversities,
like you were the shoulder Icried on, you were the person
(42:36):
that lifted me up the wing, thewind beneath my wings, as they
like to say.
And that only happens becausewe've, we've, you know, we've
been working together so longand, and it's more than just
like coworkers, like we'refriends.
Like, and you know, and it's,yeah.
I don't know.
Awesome.
Thinking back to that time isjust.
It's different because I, Ijust, I remember admiring not
only your energy but but yourtalent, but most importantly,
(42:59):
your loving the game and lovefor content creation.
And I've said it so many timesbefore, the idea that you have
continuously gotten better in away where I didn't think you
could ever actually improve.
It's actually made me realizethat like, hey, if I just get 1%
better every day, 10 videoslater, it's 10%.
You know what I mean?
And that's a noticeable visibledifference.
(43:20):
Yeah, this has been, it's beenan incredible journey and it's
crazy how it starts with that,that that seed that we had, that
original interaction where Ithink we both knew that we could
go the distance together.
Cozy Snap (43:31):
Absolutely, man.
Just fun, fun to reflect, fun tolook back at it.
We're gonna close things herewith one final question to you,
and it is, what do you think wasthe best deck you've ever played
to you?
Not the best deck in Snap.
Alright.
But what was the best deck foryour favorite deck to play?
Alexander Coccia (43:47):
I think the
bullseye one i, I cooked
recently is closed to my mostmetal.
Metal.
Like yeah.
Terms of like meta impact, Ithink.
But if I had to go all the wayback, the one that I think was
my favorite cook, the one I hadthe most fun was during the, I
made a surfer deck during theX-Men unbalanced event.
Remember the unbalanced patch?
Cozy Snap (44:06):
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah,
yeah, yeah.
Oh, I remember that deck andthat.
I remember that.
Yes.
And that absolutely
Alexander Coccia (44:11):
crushed.
And I remember like it's SilverSurfer, it's like top of the
meta and it's my baby,
Cozy Snap (44:16):
and I loved it.
I feel like if they were to nailthe, the marketing, the ui and
just like the announcement ofunbalanced patches, those were
so fun, but they just like, itwas too quick.
People didn't know they weregoing on.
People would go on like, youknow what I mean?
There's a couple things thatthey had to fix about it.
But I think it was a great thinggoing on.
Obviously mine would be rocksand hawks just because of like
the pure lore of it, but also,bro.
I think the best deck I rememberplaying like where I was playing
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it, I was like, this, I feellike I'm cheating.
Was the original death wave?
Was she Hulk?
That felt so busted on everysingle level, and I remember
just thinking like, bro, I'mlike, I.
Just cleaning up with it.
Like people who weren't playingthat I felt,'cause we had beta
car, like we had everything andI remember people didn't have
access to it and it was justlike, it felt like I was
(44:58):
cheating, bro.
It was so good.
It probably was cheating at thetime.
I mean, it was insane.
Or the early Sarah Miracle wasjust cool.
It was just cool to play at thetime.
Very different at, you know, atits peak and at its time.
But listen guys, so much fun togo through some of this.
This is a topic we'll bring backevery now and then.
Just wanted to talk about itwith Alex.
Alexander Coccia (45:15):
Cozy, we're
starting with a bit of a
different look today because welast week discussed magic, the
Gathering Commander.
I'm out of breath.
I just was like running around.
I just realized like I'm tryingto talk on camera, man.
Sometimes it's just busy in thishousehold.
What can I say?
But not busy enough for me to goto pick up.
My quick Draw Outlaws deck,which was exactly what chat had
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suggested.
Thank you to everyone in thecomments.
That was like, Alex, I saw thatyou want the outlaws of Thunder
Junction.
The best Commander deckavailable for that is the quick
draw one.
That's what I got apparently.
Lots of interest in cozy and I,and perhaps a couple friends
playing some some magic.
We might just have to get thatgoing someday.
Cozy Snap (45:53):
Yeah, like, what's it
commander at home?
We could do it.
We could been broad on it andeverything too.
Yeah.
Funny enough, just the otherday, my brother was here.
'cause I told you guys went toDisney.
By the way, if you're watchingon Alex's side, first voice is
blowing out.
So a little quiet today.
But I, we were playing the jump.
Just me and my brother went to acar shop.
We picked up like threejumpstart packs, man.
And we just like ripped them,shipped them, and started
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playing.
And it was just so, I love.
I just love that.
It's just so fun, man.
Just like immediately jumpingin, playing right away.
Super welcoming.
And if you played, if you'venever played magic and you
played snap, it's so, it's notone for one, but it's pretty
easy to understand, like it'svery easy to get into it.
Alexander Coccia (46:31):
I mean, the
cards are way more complicated.
Like some of'em have actualparagraphs of text.
Yeah, for sure.
Of the snap single line typething.
Yeah.
But but no, if you've beenplaying card games, then it's a
very natural transition.
And to some degree, like I feellike L Khan is really good in
that sense too, where it's like,I.
The, the cards are much morestraightforward.
Magic does have a complexity toit, but that complexity is also
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part of the beauty, I think.
It's been a while since I'velike really gotten into magic,
but anyways, again, we startevery episode just completely
off off kilter with the, withregards to the topic.
But I just wanna showcase that,and again, this came directly as
recommended from the viewershipbecause I had said like, I'm not
sure which Commander Deck to getfor this particular set.
And this one by far was the mostrecommended.
(47:14):
So I'm looking forward.
To doing that there.
Now cozy, we gotta talk aboutforehand.
Fire, hand, fire, hair.
You know, it's not your fault,man.
Like her hair is not on fire.
Her hand is literally engulfedin flames.
Like look, the proof's in thepudding on the screen there.
So fire, hair, you know, fakenews, definitely fire hand.
We're gonna be going with thatfor now on.
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This is a card that I have avery complex relationship in
this first week with, because Iwent like my Destroyer Nimrod
package.
My Surey destroyed Nimrodpackage.
And although it took some setup,I think it was, it was a natural
fit there.
Sometimes it didn't carry theweight that I wanted.
It wasn't like an oppressivecombo play the way it could be
with some other stuff, like, youknow, in with the misery mill
(47:56):
type stuff.
I think statistically.
This is one of those cards thatmight look like it's weak right
now, but the stats are notsomething you can rely on.
I think that this might be acard that does really well in
the future.
We just don't have the decksright now.
Cozy Snap (48:11):
Yeah, I mean, look at
misery and when misery came out,
misery got some bust, but miserywas awful when it came out like
really bad.
And then we saw even in somelike tournament stuff, people
starting to play it a little bitmore.
And I know when I did a videowith Dexter, it was like two Ns
Pro.
The pro decided to play miserythe whole time and is like, wait
a second, right?
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I think fire hair fits thatmold, but also even more so we
highlighted it last week, a lotof cards coming out to help this
out.
And you have two things at onceyou have any destroyed card that
comes out is that can destroy,is gonna aid fire hair in the
way that it works naturally, butthen also.
Essentially any auto reveal hasthe potential to massively
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increase her value as well,especially low cost ones right
before the four hit.
So she has a tremendous future
Alexander Coccia (49:00):
ahead.
Right now she's running a 47%win rate on aggregate across all
the decks on according tountapped post infinite.
That's not good.
And most of the time when yousee like a 47% win rate, you're
like, man, this car needssomething.
Then we start spinning, oh, youknow what's this?
Buff does an extra point do it.
But with fire hair.
You have two cards and likeElixir Kid Omega immediately
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potentially coming out thatcould benefit an archetype that
has fire hair in there, right?
Like this card just needs morecards to synergize with.
But not just that, the cookshave just been all over the
place.
Right.
And the highest cook right nowis a 53.4% win rate deck.
And that's actually the beta RayBill Thor package with Lady Jane
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Foster and Lady Death Strike.
That is using fire hair toobviously repro the the hammers
and the breakers.
But it's fascinating to thinkthat like that's not even a very
natural synergy.
Like that was just a reallyinventive cook.
Once you get Kid Omega and someof these other cards in the
future that will directlypotentially synergize with fire
(50:04):
here, then, then she's gonnatake off, I think.
Cozy Snap (50:08):
Yeah, that sounds
like a cook we would've come up
with as just like.
Coming up with super uniquesynergies, like as we're 50
minutes into the Snapchat onthe, on the new card it, and,
and I plot it.
I think it's, it is, it's solid.
It works.
You know, you have two cardsthat can just hold down lanes by
themselves and then you couldjust supercharge that over and
over and over and, and snowball.
And again, that's a greatexample of if Thor and Beta can
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be good.
Right with fire hair, those arejust two on reveals that do
their thing.
New on reveals that come it.
They just have a significantchance to definitely wanna be
paired with fire hair and thatkind of unique play style.
Alexander Coccia (50:45):
And you know
what?
This is actually as well areally good example of why in
review videos when talking aboutnew releases, especially the
first impressions, therecommendation is always that
you wait until Monday or Tuesdaymorning before deciding whether
or not you're going to investyour harder earned resources on
a new card.
This is a great example.
Right.
(51:05):
My kids are hammering the floorabove me.
That's okay.
We continue onwards with theSnapchat.
Fire hair is a good example asis Star Brand, where Star Brand
on paper looked like it wasgonna elevate so on and we're
like, okay, is it gonna beenough to bring Sour onto that
next level?
Star brand was definitely animprovement to that archetype,
but that whole archetype as awhole did not elevate and as a
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result, if you kind of full modeinto Star brand, you would've
likely regretted it.
What you needed to have done iswait and then see, okay, well if
Eron gets buffed or if that deckgets another piece, then now I
can invest the tokens orwhatever to kind of build that
out.
Fire hair was similar except theopposite.
Fire hair came in and honestly,my first impressions were very
(51:49):
positive.
I could see what the card wasdoing.
We both saw the potential in it,and I think that that still
remains, despite the fact thatthe win rate is relatively low.
However.
At the same time, this is a cashwhere you have Cassandra, Nova
and Nico.
So if you're someone who isrolling keys and you ended up
with Fire her, Cassandra andNico, that's an absolute dub
(52:09):
like you need to be cheeringbecause there's gonna come a
point in time where this card isgonna be worth its weight in
gold it.
However, if you already haveCassandra Nova and Nico Fire
Hair is a great example of acard that I think you can
confidently.
Once the week rolls out, you pinit in your token shop.
And then when Kid Omega andother synergistic cards come
out, you're, you have it there,you have it ready, and you could
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commit those resources ifnecessary, because let's be
honest, fire hair, according totoday's review and the
statistics we have availableright now is not performing like
you might have expected.
I still do not think that it'sworth sleeping on.
I think this is a good card.
We just haven't figured it outyet.
Cozy Snap (52:52):
I think you said a
lot there that rings true.
I think a couple things is,first history repeats itself.
We've seen the devs favorarchetypes and or card releases
and you know, I think so, I'msure is a great one.
That's not one they go back to alot.
You know, we, we, we only getsomething every now and then
once a year if that, to helpthat archetype out.
(53:13):
Right.
Fire hair, on the other hand hasplenty behind it.
Now I think it was cool becausewhen she, she came out, it's
kinda like grandma and it waslike, hold on, is this just
gonna be fun?
Is it gonna be good?
But even with grandma, we knew'cause of what he did, there's
so much synergy with him downthe line and it's gonna be the
same, you know, with fire hair.
(53:33):
And so I think ultimately if youjust enjoy the play style there,
the people who won the most arethe ones that probably started
playing Snap.
Not new, but like six monthsago.
'cause most people are gonnahave Nico and Cast, dude.
I mean, come on.
We're so far into it at thispoint.
However, kind of that mid-rangezone of joining, man, you hit
the lottery'cause you get allthree.
Like let's say they don't haveYeah.
(53:53):
If they, if they don't have anyof those, that's just like big
time hits.
Right.
So yeah, I, I, I'm, I'm, I'mhigh up on fire hair.
I think she's ultimately gonnasettle into.
Until Elixir and them come out.
But ultimately is like, youknow, the Phoenix force, the,
the, that, that whole like, it'sa, it's a different type of way
to play, which is really cool,but also destroy most popular
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archetype in the game that'sgonna continue to cook.
And there's gonna be more cardsto help that out.
So if you're a Destroy fan, Ialmost say grabber just because
of what's gonna happen there.
Alexander Coccia (54:22):
If you're on
the fence, if you don't have
Cassandra and Cassandra andNico, I think it's worth
rolling.
I think this is one of thoseweeks you can,
Cozy Snap (54:28):
yeah.
Alexander Coccia (54:28):
If you have
Cassandra and Nico again, I
think it's a pin pin and waitand see, and I think it's gonna
ultimately surprise to the highside.
This almost reminds me, you knowwhat this reminds me of while
you were talking, I was thinkingabout it.
This reminds me of Agent Venomwe're on the onset of Agent
Venom.
The decks were just not good.
They just weren't good.
And then eventually the deckstarted to shape up.
(54:48):
An agent of venom became prettylegit and it still is legit to
this day.
It's still a little niche, butgood.
I think fire hair is like thatexcept I think it has a wide, a
much wider breadth of potentialsynergies and cards.
You set it perfectly beforecozy.
Every destroyed card in everyone reveal card that can be
destroyed cares about fire hair,and so this is one of the ones
that I believe.
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Is gonna age like fine wine andthere's been lots of cards that
have been aging, like Fine Wineand Marvel Snap.
And those are gonna be the bestcards in Marvel Snap.
Now we're not just talking aboutpure statistics, we're talking
about Feelies.
Vibes, but also straight upstatistics, which we have
available to us here Now cozy.
I'm gonna lead the way here byproviding you with some cards
that I believe are some of theabsolute best cards in Snap and
(55:30):
have been since they release.
And I would like your commentaryon it.
And if I could make an argumentfor what I think has probably
been the number one card in SNAPfor some time as a standalone
that has carried the mostweight.
I'm gonna make an argument.
It is a two drop cozy.
I knew it.
Wow.
You're starting to sneak inhere.
Yep.
Let's see if he can get, I'd be,dude, I would be so shocked if
you hit it.
Cozy Snap (55:51):
Yeah.
I don't know how far back we'regoing, but I, to me, I'm, I'm
putting, I, I, this card's beenso stupid since
Alexander Coccia (55:57):
it's come out.
Iron Patriot.
The two three, that adds arandom 4, 5, 6 drop to your
hand.
It was not the card I wasthinking about, but it is
actually on the list.
What's the card?
We can start with Patriot now.
No, no.
Now I'm just kind of leavingeveryone hanging.
It was Scream Cozy.
Yeah, scream was the card I wasthinking about because if you
think about it, scream iscurrently as of right now at a
4.6% popularity running eight.
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56% win rate post infinite.
According to untapped, it hasrevived an archetype that
literally did not exist prior.
Revive, what am I talking about?
Revive would mean it would haveto have existed before it
created the archetype.
This card has been nerfed andhas gotten Arrow.
Your wife who nerfed.
Right.
It has gotten so many changesaround the edge.
(56:40):
It made stagger on playable.
What are we talking about here?
This card has been soconsistently one of the best
cards in the game, and itbrought a whole new archetype to
light for me.
This has been a fantasticaddition to the game.
It's pretty
Cozy Snap (56:53):
simple to see why,
because here's the deal.
This is essentially the Mobiouspiece to discard.
However, the key difference toit is that all of those cards
that were played in the pastbefore scream.
Or insane value because theycame with the con of moving the
card and okay, so you have thevalue play, number one.
Number two, you're activelydisrupting your opponent at the
(57:16):
same time that you're buildingup your side with good value and
buildup, right?
So that's why does so well.
It's like we talked aboutKillmonger being the offense
defensive card scream.
That archetype is that it's theoffense defensive deck, and
that's what just made it sogood.
Alexander Coccia (57:34):
Going back to
what you brought up before,
which was Iron, Patriot, thosescreen decks, the weakness the
original screen deck had wasthat if you didn't draw a scream
on two, you were cooked.
But now those screen decks havescreen iron, Patriot, Sam Wilson
and Craven as their two drops.
Why those cards you ask?
(57:55):
Because they all synergize withbasically the entire rest of the
package.
So like your twos, you literallyhave, with the exception of
Craven, Craven's, just verysynergistic.
But with the exception ofCraven, Sam Wilson, iron Patriot
scream.
Three of the best two drops inthe game.
Two drops good enough that Jeff,the baby land shark who sits
above Cozies head.
Being unplayable in comparison.
(58:15):
That's ridiculously powerful andyou are right to identify that
Iron Patriots currently runninga 33.8% metas share according to
untapped 33% meta share.
Cozy at a 53% win rate.
Cozy Snap (58:27):
I think it's so funny
because I feel like as we
thought when Madame Webb cameout, we thought Move was gonna
go to this level of completedomination.
And what did they do to helpthat?
Well, they created.
Scream as that kind of cosmo toit.
I think that was gonna be therelease valve to make sure that
that deck always had an answerto it.
But then we ended up using whatwas gonna be a tech card against
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move into its own deck design.
Right.
Like that's how I feel.
She's even made it into the gameat, at its original, you know,
creation and why it's just sodominant still to this day.
Alexander Coccia (59:00):
It's true.
And Todd, about Sam Wilson.
Sam Wilson is currently runninga very similar win rate to the
the iron Patriot, soapproximately 52 point a half to
53% while Iron Patriots had a33% metas share.
According to Untapped, SamWilson's running a 28% meta
share.
Both of them are in almost everysingle deck, and I've actually
seen this lamented.
A lot of people have beenlamenting over the fact that
(59:21):
like if they don't have IronPatriot, Sam Wilson, which are
back to back season pass cards,they feel like the free to play
landscape is significantly moredifficult to compete in.
And that's absolutely fair.
Like I absolutely agree with youguys, but I also feel that both
Iron Patriot and Sam Wilson arelike, do you feel like they're
overpowered or are they just,are they gre that cus they're,
(59:44):
they're the of like.
Cozy Snap (59:45):
So there's a lot of
things happening.
Number one, you had a huge surgein players leaving in December,
and then, so imagine that theyleave, they come back in March.
'cause we have a surge up now.
Okay.
So they're missing two months.
Those are a brutal two months tomiss.
Okay.
And the reason why is yeah,they're, they're overcooked a, a
tad, but also they're, they'reJeff in the sense of they're not
(01:00:06):
replaceable.
Right?
So like, there's nothing to doto replace.
Patriot does and his value ofplug and play potential.
And same exact thing withespecially with, with captain
Falcon as I, as I'll call'em.
They're just hard to replace andthen you definitely feel like at
that point you're looking atyour other two costs to, to fill
that void, and it becomes atough assignment.
Alexander Coccia (01:00:27):
I feel like
they're both good enough to be
meta shaping, but also not quitegood enough to demand a Nerf
like searcher demanded a NerfLoki demanded a Nerf Elsa,
original Elsa demanded a Nerf.
These cards don't demand nerfsthe way those did.
However, they're incredibly,anytime you're looking at 30%
(01:00:48):
play rate, like that's insane.
And you did get the change forthe the CU city and synergy from
Sam Wilson, and that did take alittle bit off it, but like.
I don't know.
Does it kill these cards both togo down to a two?
Two?
Like maybe, yeah.
But is it straight up powercreep?
Like I, I don't know.
I don't know what to do aboutthese two.
Cozy Snap (01:01:03):
I don't think they do
that to Patriot.
'cause he's the card that wantsto win the location.
So if you're two two, your jobof winning that location gets
much harder.
Yeah.
And I don't think they mess withthe cost either.
I don't see him changing.
And they already made the changeto catches, so I think they're
gonna stay the same.
Alexander Coccia (01:01:18):
Interestingly
enough, another card that has
been consistently one of theabsolute top performers.
Is Doom 2099, and this is onethat we obviously were, we're
high on, on the Snapchat, and ithas received multiple nerves
since coming out and has quietlystill remained near the top.
And now currently we have aspectrum based ongoing deck with
Doom 2099, that's legitimatelyone of the top performers.
(01:01:41):
And this card just doesn't seemto go away.
It, it's only running a 6% metashare according to Untap at a
53.5% win rate.
So it doesn't feel like a metadominator or it doesn't feel
like it's.
Suppressing people's enjoymentof the game, but it's definitely
out there and it's stillperforming despite the multiple
nerves.
Cozy Snap (01:01:58):
Yeah.
You know, he just reminds me abit, I don't play him much
because I didn't play Sherrymuch back in the day for that
simplicity.
Simplicity mixed with casualfans is a success.
Right.
And so there's a lot of playthere and success there.
But yeah, they've had a really.
I think they tried to make it,you know, I mean, hey, same
thing happened to Sherry, right?
Where it was like, it was justtoo good.
(01:02:19):
Even though it was simplistic,it was also too good.
And they, and now we saw thesame almost excuse for Serer,
right?
It is like too easy, too simple,too good of what it does best.
But yeah, doom when you make acar that already helps what we
used to call the goaded car tosnap and, and, and Dr.
Doom, you know, it's a recipe
Alexander Coccia (01:02:39):
for disaster.
It's funny that you bring thatup because Dr.
Doom himself is actually runninga 53% win rate and a 8.6% meta
share.
This is being seen because youare seeing Dr.
Doom being played with the Doom2099, but also there's a couple
competitive Patriot moonstoneshells that are starting to kind
of emerge and they're runningDr.
(01:02:59):
Doom.
Right.
And, and also ultra.
So you have like the Dr.
Doom Ultra package, depending onwhat you draw or what the
situation's calling for.
So Dr.
Doom of the og, like big sixdrops that everyone loves to
have is actually one of the topperforming ones right now in
terms of the classic, I don'twanna say big bads, you know
what I mean?
Right.
The classic six drops that youlean to.
(01:03:19):
Right.
And it's, it made me think,right, like Magneto's not on
this list.
But that's like a card MagnetoDr.
Doom.
They've been cards that havebeen very consistent, like the
same thing.
Dr.
Doom got nerfed once and thenthey brought him back because
they realized that the Nerf was,was just way too heavy handed.
But ultimately it's reallyinteresting to see that Dr.
Doom is, is doing as well,especially for such a classic
(01:03:40):
card and talking about cardswith, with regards to the the
season pass one that has kind offallen to the wayside slightly
in terms of like, it's likeTwitter hate.
Galata, but Galata still runs an18.7% Medi-Share at a 52% win
rate.
Galata, I think is still anexcellent card, and it's just
(01:04:02):
that there's so many new shinytoys out there that Galata
almost doesn't get therecognition it deserves as being
an absolute cheek clapper.
Cozy Snap (01:04:10):
Yeah, it just
dependable, I mean, just doing
the thing that you needed to do.
It's so funny, looking back atthe rival season, it was either
just like massive winner.
Absolute dog water, right?
So it was like Galata, Luna,snow rocket and gr were in
there.
And then do 2099 as you justmentioned.
And then we had Bruce, BruceBanner you know, and, and the
debacle that went through.
(01:04:31):
Yeah, Galata, I is just asubject to the season passing,
not season pass, but seasonpassing by.
And then like, yeah, new buildscome out, but we're seeing
plenty of her in high voltagebecause she's the definition of
what that good value is.
Alexander Coccia (01:04:46):
Oh, there's no
question about talking about
passing.
We're hearing your voice boxpass away over here as we
continue on Snapchat.
It's,
Cozy Snap (01:04:51):
it's, it's, it is
holding on ti I'm sorry guys.
For the, the left.
It's literally not even that.
I'm not enthused.
It's like I know that if I go upin Octave, it's done.
Alexander Coccia (01:05:01):
Yeah, he is
literally running on fumes right
now.
Poor cozy.
Don't worry, buddy.
We're almost there.
We also have rock and group,which you just mentioned, which
was your card of the month.
That month actually.
Running a 15% meta share and oneof the highest win rates in
Marvel Snap at a 54.4%.
That is remarkable for Rocketand Groot.
It's been an actual beauty and Ithink I, what I really like
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about this car, obviously it wasdisgusting and sanctum showed
out so good, was so stupid inthat mode.
I'm glad they ultimatelyactually that's something we
didn't necessarily talk about,but kudos to second dinner for
like.
On the fly banning some cards insanctum.
They did like a mid, like a midweek band on OTA for game.
Yeah.
Yeah.
That's great.
I'm glad they did that.
They, they're trying to beresponsive there.
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But yeah, rock and Group's beenremarkable.
Another one that's within thatkind of sphere is is Keith
Bishop Kate Bishop's runningapproximately 50% Mesure, but
the win rate is much lower at51%.
K Bishop feels like it has itsrole to play, but has definitely
been one of the fairer seasonpass cards that added a lot to
the game.
It reminds me to some degree ofwhat we're seeing now with
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Emoto, except it might surpriseyou that although Amimoto, I
think is taking a lot ofnegative heat right now, Emoto's
actually running only a 50% me50% win rate, any 13% meta
share.
So according to untappedstatistics.
Kate Bishop actually has ahigher win rate than Nakamoto.
I'm not sure if that surprisesyou or not.
Cozy Snap (01:06:28):
Yeah, I think also
we're still, Kate Bishop went
out the gate with a good winrate compared to OG Moto.
OG Moto has obviously somecomplexities to him and anytime
we got as a two, what she'sdoing is a two cost.
It is just that good and, andAgamotto even with how crazy
wins War two is and, and him, atthe end of the day, you are
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filling your cards.
Into your deck, that does createless dependency in game plans.
Right.
Whereas like, she's activelygiving you curve, which is
crazy.
So I, I would give that for thereason.
But yeah, Kate Bishops has justbeen just, just incredibly solid
by design since she's come
Alexander Coccia (01:07:08):
out.
And I also think that obviouslyKate Bishop's decks have matured
in a way that Emoto's deckshaven't had a chance to achieve.
Haven't Yeah.
Haven't had the chance yet.
And we'll end with this onehere.
Cozy.
I'll, I'll give this to you.
Do you think Luke Cage is in theconversation for being one of
the best cards in the game?
Cozy Snap (01:07:24):
Yeah, because he's
like.
He's the gatekeeper.
I mean, like imagine, rememberthat location that got rid of
cards gonna be discarded.
Imagine if there was a card youcould play at a three ahead of
the ongoing of no cars could bediscarded, right?
Like it's just this ultimatestop gate for so much happening.
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Obviously that's even a goodexample too, because Luke Cage's
offensive capabilities as well,right?
And like what he does for you inthose decks.
I think so.
He just does two things at once,so well.
Alexander Coccia (01:07:54):
It's almost
like, imagine Luke Cage was like
the the opposite of Luke Cage.
Ongoing.
All cards cannot have theirpower increased.
Imagine if you prevented youropponent from buffing their
cards completely.
And what kind of catchall thatwould be, right?
Oh, I just gave Glenn a very badidea talking about fun'cause
like that's like a pillow on topof everyone's fun.
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But yeah, like Luke Cage, like,so he's running a 13% meta share
to 51.5% win rate.
So he doesn't quite hit thenumbers of what the best cards
in Snap do, but he feels like avery impactful card in Snap,
which is what I was leaning intoCozy.
And you know what, sir, that'sgonna take us.
To our Snapchat mailbag.
My friend, we have had so manyquestions on the Snapchat Mail
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Beg and I encourage you tocontinue asking some questions
for Cozy.
And I as you know, we've, we'vebeen on a number of different
topics, but I wanna go back toone.
We did have a comment about aconversation we had about TV
shows.
Now, cozy, I will tell you thatmy wife and I just finished
season one of Daredevil.
It took us a while, but we didit.
We just finished season one andyou know what?
She's actually excited to seeseason two.
(01:09:00):
So we did it.
We successfully converted mywife into a Marvel TV show fan,
but after, I don't, I don't knowif after Daredevil, if I, I
don't know what I'm gonna sellher on next, but maybe there's
more Daredevil that came out soI can keep going on that.
But when talking about shows,cozy Jax had said Dark, won a
fan voted 2 million bracket ofthe best Netflix original ever.
(01:09:25):
I did not realize that there wassome sort of vote where
unanimously dark was consideredone of the best Netflix shows.
So perhaps we actually have somegood taste.
Cozy
Cozy Snap (01:09:33):
closet following.
Man, I, I can't speak to youtill you've seen Inception.
I.
And then you go from inceptionto severance.
You need to, you need to, youneed to do this.
But screw Daredevil.
I actually
Alexander Coccia (01:09:42):
looked into
severance.
I think I can get it.
You can like using like Amazon,you could subscribe to Apple
Plus.
I thought I needed an Apple tv.
It was so stupid.
I thought I needed an Apple tvand I was like looking up Apple
TVs to watch this show.
'cause it wasn't just you.
Like I think that a, i I now Ijust hear it nonstop.
Everyone's talking about it, soI think I gotta get honest.
Start with
Cozy Snap (01:10:02):
inception.
Just start.
It's a two hour commitment, butyou'll
Alexander Coccia (01:10:04):
love it.
Is that the Leonardo DiCapriomovie?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Cozy Snap (01:10:08):
That's the way I'm
shocked.
I'm, I'm like blown away.
You haven't seen it?
Alexander Coccia (01:10:13):
Yeah, no.
Well, listen buddy, there's,there's a lot of things I have
not seen and I have not done,but Haiti's Gaming does comment
on exactly that with saying whyis all the cozy lore stuff like,
I used to work in hotels.
I used to be a top 500 in my, inmy role playing of, of
Overwatch.
And then all of Alex's lore islike, I've never heard of
Firefly.
Cozy Snap (01:10:33):
People couldn't
believe like inception.
Like everyone was like, oh mygosh.
And then I got to fire Fireflyand they're like, it's like your
nerd Rite of Passage.
Passage.
Like I got, I'm sorry.
I know I
Alexander Coccia (01:10:44):
let a lot of
people down.
Cozy Snap (01:10:45):
It's okay though.
You didn't know what chorizoagain, you are.
I.
I think I asked you, are you areal person?
And sometimes I ask myself that,but guys, I can, I can
absolutely as he can back outback up.
I am who I am.
When you meet me in person, Ican too.
Alex didn't know what a, a fishtaco was in person.
So he is, he is.
Everything you're seeing righthere, even when I got to meet
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the, this legend.
Alexander Coccia (01:11:08):
You know what
though?
I still, I still remember thatfish, taco Mo, you were like
flabbergasted because I thoughtthey were gonna give me like a
fish that was cut into the shapeof a taco or something.
I don't know.
Man, it, it, listen, that's,it's, listen, it's an easy
mistake to make.
Just it's in the name man.
It's in the name.
It's a fish that is shaped likea taco, but obviously they put
the fish in the taco.
Okay.
I understand what it is now.
Cozy and that was a beautifulrestaurant, man.
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San Diego talk about everythingyou just describe San Diego as
just beautiful.
Everywhere we went wasbeautiful.
Like especially considering likethe snow infested place that I'm
in with winter Dyers, and youguys are just like, oh, what's
shoveling?
I don't know.
But hey, listen, that upper bodystrength I've been building by
shoveling all the snow, buddy.
I mean, it's actually the firstday of spring, so maybe
hopefully less snow.
(01:11:51):
But Jamie comes in with our nextquestion and it reads, I started
a new account and the cardacquisition early on is so good
in this game.
You get new cards, every fewupgrades, why can't they lean
into that for the late game?
The collection level thing wassuch a great idea early on, and
then it turns into a mess afterthree or 5K collection level
after your series threecomplete.
(01:12:13):
Sometimes it does feel pay towin with all the new cards
releasing, but I feel like evensome early decks can compete.
So the mailbag question he asksis, what pool one or two decks
do you think could compete intoday's meta?
Just
Cozy Snap (01:12:28):
with
Alexander Coccia (01:12:28):
pool one and
two cards.
I don't think there are, dude, Iactually was trying to figure
this out.
Like there's really not, likeeven zoo needs Gilgamesh.
I think the furthest you can gois you have to go to series
three and then you start to beable to at least cook with
silver Surfer, destroy, like youget some stuff.
But I think at minimum you needseries three to even be
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competitive now, I think,
Cozy Snap (01:12:52):
yeah, it's pretty
bad.
I would say like maybe.
No, I was just gonna say like,even maybe early destroy, but
like, even that discard, youmissing big pieces.
Patriot's close, but you needPatriots.
So
Alexander Coccia (01:13:02):
Patriot
though.
Patriot's a sick guy.
Yeah.
Yeah,
Cozy Snap (01:13:04):
dude, that's a cook
right there.
Yeah, dude, it's just rough.
It's rough and one and two, butit does take a long to get to
three.
So like, you're not, you're nottoo far behind.
But yeah, it's it, it cardacquisition's quick.
It, it's still quick and pullthree too.
But what's cool about it is asyou get new cards in there,
you're gonna be able to reallyopen up what you could do.
There's plenty of good decks.
In fact you could climb as faras you want to with some pool
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three only decks.
Alexander Coccia (01:13:27):
Yeah.
And even like something likesurfer, like once you get
Sebastian Shaw with tokens.
Yeah.
Like you can actually legit havea decent win rate deck with a
Koi Nikia.
But you know, honestly it'spretty rough, pretty rough
there.
Another question here we got,and it is coming from Instagram.
I Instagram less aj.
Sorry.
Sometimes I, the reading thenames gets a little tricky.
(01:13:48):
Hi guys, huge fan of the chat.
What cards do you like playingthat isn't part of an archetype?
For example, I put quake in myscreen deck knowing that it
doesn't actually contribute tothe play style, but the location
swinging feels on theme for me.
I'm gonna say cozy.
I, I like Miss Marvel.
I, I feel like Miss Marvel hasbeen one I've been using a lot
because I can use like.
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Sam Wilson to activate the bestmarvel right now, which I think
is kind of fun.
It's a way that Sam Wilson's notbeing used, especially since at
a zero cost shield.
He now does not interact withpretty much anything else.
And so he feels like free realestate when you slide him around
'cause you can slide it into aone drop and another Marvel.
It's Cat, the Marvel.
We discussed Captain Marvel onyour side.
That's a card I'm always lookingto add, especially if I have
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galata in my deck.
Cozy Snap (01:14:33):
Yeah, that's a good
question.
I like that question.
I mean, the boring answer for meis ly'cause I'm just like having
a good time.
Or even Pa Paige just'cause howgood he is just in across
anything that you could kindamake work.
If I was gonna choose adifferent answer, man, there's a
couple, I'm kinda like breezingthrough'em as I'm like, what do
I like?
Alexander Coccia (01:14:47):
I have two
more while you're thinking.
Okay.
Now that I think, I don't wannasteal yours, but Nebula is
another one that I think haslike, okay.
It's not really an archetypeone, but it's a good one to add.
And I feel like I'm gonna, thiswould've been your answer.
I bet.
I feel bad saying it.
Cozy.
What about copycat?
Cozy Snap (01:15:03):
Yeah, I had copycat,
but I so copy like those.
I just like, yeah, it's not whatshe was or whatever.
But yeah, those catchall justfeels so good that could be
played like across the board.
Right.
And copycat's definitely likeway up there amongst those.
I, I feel like, man, theycreated my perfect heart in Iron
Patriot.
I said that when it came out.
I was like, it's literallycoleson, but better.
'cause I'm getting like what Ilike from Colson, but then I'm
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also getting just crazy value onthe curve play.
So it's definitely him.
As an off pick, I'm gonna gofrigo.
Alexander Coccia (01:15:30):
Ooh.
Figures a nice one too.
As we close our Snapchat with anice, not even a question, it's
more of a statement from MitchVan Cleve, and it says, I know
that you guys said that youweren't making any more ball
sack jokes, but every time I seebolt of ball sack, I can't help
but imagine Mike Tyson sayingBall sack.
Also, I love you guys so much.
The past three episodes havebeen the best you've ever put
(01:15:52):
out.
Cozy Snap (01:15:53):
Wow.
That's saying something with thelast one.
Ball.
First of all, Alex just had toget his ballack counter up.
He, he was, he was itching toget that one in there.
I could, I could feel it, man.
Oh.
Ballack itching.
I like where you went there.
Cozy.
Boom, boom.
Done.
On that note, guys, you knowwhat?
I keep it close.
You got the better voice.
You got it.
Go.
Alexander Coccia (01:16:10):
I got it.
Alright.
Thank you so much guys forwatching.
We sincerely appreciate each andevery one of you.
We'll be back next week.
Thank you for your support andwe'll see you on that Snapchat.
Cozy Snap (01:16:19):
You guys have a good
one.
Have a great one.
Till the next one.
Happy snapping.