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Cozy Snap (00:00):
What's going on guys?
And welcome back to anotherepisode of the Snapchat.
We have the What If SeasonLanding in Marvel Snap.
And there's a lot of cool carsthat this season brings,
including Infinity, old Tron,and more new ways to get cars.
It's gonna be a good one and agood season as Alex and I rank
all of the cars and give ourimpressions if you should get
them in our overall synergiesthat we can find.
We're gonna talk about the OTA,the Balance Patchs lot to break
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down, and we're gonna talk aboutthat all today.
More on this episode of theSnapchat.
And as always, I'm joined by theone and only Mr.
Alex Kocha.
And if you guys like the latenight episodes, you've come to
the right episode of theSnapchat, we've got ourselves a
late one today.
The slurs will be long, theshowers will be high quantity.
We're at give or take plus orminus three for the shower
count.
Could be more by the end ofthis.
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We have no Snapchat mail back onmy side.
We do have it on his side.
Last time, late night, mailback.
It was chaos here, but we gotourselves a, a fun time at Snap.
New card Acquisi acquisitionannounce.
We've got you know, a, a coolwhat if season and I, I'm
excited man.
I'm excited.
I'm.
Fresh off a I'm a big, I'm a bigcollege basketball fan, and my
team had an epic collapse of alltime.
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And so I'm trying to manage myemotions.
I might break down crying.
That just could be because of,you know actually it's just
purely from frustration.
But yeah, man, it's good.
This is the, the cold, dark partof sports though, man.
It's just baseball pretty muchover here now till till it's
not, is what I tell myself.
Alexander Coccia (01:24):
Yeah, see, I
don't watch any baseball at all.
And March Madness.
Okay.
You need to really understandthe American University College
like athletics is.
Unseen anywhere else in theworld, right?
Yeah.
Like if anyone in Canada wouldbe like, yo, we're gonna watch
college basketball, I'd be like,why?
Like, why would you watch thisman?
Yeah.
I'd rather watch my kids playsoccer and just bumblebee.
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Right?
Like, and so like it's, but sowe were at actually the other
night, my buddy, he moved to Ooplace, so we went to a little
pub nears house, right.
Just checking some, the, thelocal scene out.
And they had the march madnessgoing.
And I had no idea what any ofthe schools were, but I was
like, man, those uniforms lookreally cool.
Like, I thought the uniformslooked cool and stuff.
I think we were watchingTennessee and someone, I don't
know, because they were orange.
Okay.
And I, I was just, I thought itwas ama, people were going nuts,
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bro.
The stadium was packed for it'sinsane college game.
It's insane.
I insane.
Are you kidding me?
Like the CFL can't draw that.
The CFL is like 15 peoplewatching sometimes.
Cozy Snap (02:13):
I'm the biggest NFL
fan I know.
And in college football, but Iwould put the round of 64, so
the opening ground and even pastthat, but really the round of 64
as like.
The second or third best day insports.
Like, it's just so freakingcool.
Like the playoffs are great, allthat in NFL, but it's just,
there's something, I don't know,I think college sports in
general is cool.
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I went to Texas.
Texas, I'm a big, big, just abig fan of, you know I'm, I have
a lot of loyalty to my, to my,to my college, even though I
don't know why I don't use mydegree.
I'm, I'm a YouTuber.
But dude, it's wild to me too.
You go to, you go to school yourwhole life.
To get a degree and I just likechunked mine out a window.
You know, I somewhere, I don'teven have it anywhere.
Do people hang those up?
Alexander Coccia (02:56):
My, so here's
the funny thing.
I never, so my degree, I neverpicked up, you know, like those
composites where you graduateand you get your photo taken.
I didn't show up for myuniversity one.
My mom was so upset and then Ididn't pick up my diploma.
My mom was so upset.
And then I went to teacher'scollege, right?
And then we have this, I thinkit's called like a convocation
or whatever.
You go across, you shake theperson's hand, they give you the
diploma, they give you thespecial gown thing that
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illustrate that you're a teachernow, man.
You are a certified teacher.
Bro, I didn't even show up and,well, I didn't even tell my mom
what it was.
I wasn't even in the, thepicture for the graduating class
that the teachers called.
And I was like, what is wrongwith you?
You don't have the gown?
No, I never got the gown.
But now when I go to the, sowhen we have our graduations at
school, they've now lent me one,because it's supposed, every
university has a special coloryou wear at like a high school
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graduation to represent wherethe teacher graduated.
Cozy Snap (03:42):
If you hit a million
subs in your lifetime, I will
make a stage, I will get a crowdand I'll give you a gown made of
gold and.
Sparkles.
Glitter.
I appreciate
Alexander Coccia (03:52):
that.
You want know the funny thing?
I actually do have my diplomasnow.
Do you know who got them?
For me?
It was a Christmas present formy wife's parents.
My in-laws got them for me.
They, they called theuniversities and like got them
to like, I think they had to payto have them reprinted and they
got them.
And that's actually a thoughtfulYeah,
Cozy Snap (04:09):
I, I offered him a
stage guys with glitter and, and
he just went right on.
It's fine.
No, it's great.
I, it was heartfelt.
I, you know, I, I thought maybeyou'd want a gold.
Gown.
I didn't want it.
You know, I got you to a millionsub first still, man.
You don't even, I'm burning it.
Nope.
The, the, I'm burning it.
Even if you get there now.
And I'm say, do you rememberMarch 29th heading into this
season?
Yeah.
What?
I know, I think, was it lastseason or the season before?
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We weren't exactly.
It was the season before.
We were like, not, not thrilled.
How do you feel?
What's, what's your one to fiveexcitement level for the cards
as we're about to, to break intothem and you know, what you
think they're going to do forSnap and competitive wise, fun
wise, everything in between.
Alexander Coccia (04:46):
You know, I
would say I'm only a four,
right?
Oh, okay.
Last yeah, yeah.
Last last month I had a couple Iwas excited for, even though a
couple of them may havedisappointed to some degree.
We talked about that a lot, alot of interesting designs as
well.
But for this season, like I, Ithink that we're gonna see a
major buff to ongoing.
Which is super exciting to me.
I've always liked the ongoingshells.
I think the interactions arevery fun.
Super scrolling into chantersare gonna be eating very well
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feasting this month, I think.
Yeah, absolutely.
Feasting.
But overall, like, no, I'm, I'msuper excited and when you pair
that with the potential for cardacquisitions and stuff like
that, I, I think it's, it's agreat time to be a Marvel Snap
player.
Cozy Snap (05:19):
Yeah.
I think last season you said itbest.
I think last season was more a,a fun season for.
Trying interesting things.
Combos cards are a little wacky,and, and this season's a bit
more to earth outside of likeinfinity old Trump.
But the cards here I likebecause they're very like,
stable, good archetype cards.
And that, I think that's reallygood.
Not to say they can't beexperimented with and there's
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some chaos in there, but like,this feels a much more grounded
season, even though it's whatif, which is kind of funny
because it's supposed to beprobably the, the most wild
season.
But with that, we're gonna goahead and talk about all the
cars, breaking down ourthoughts, and we'll do a.
Light touch up on the ot.
Alex, what are we talking abouton your side of the Snapchat?
Alexander Coccia (05:55):
Cozy.
On my side of the Snapchat.
We're gonna be reviewing all ofthe cards from last season and
going through our final rankingsand see how we end up.
We're also be talking about thenew card acquisition model of
Marvel Snap.
The information we have, we'regonna give you our feedback on
it.
And then as always our Snapchatmail back.
Cozy Snap (06:11):
Well buddy, we're
gonna just kinda get right into
it.
We have a lot of cars to covertoday and you know, I think
there's some interesting thingsthat we can break down with
these, some.
That you guys may have notexpected.
We start off with Captain Carterright off the rip, Alex, a four
three with an ongoing effectthat it's gonna add this card's
power to the back row of cardshere.
So everything obviously behind aCaptain Carter obviously can't
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add it to itself.
Pretty damn cool ability whenyou look at it with some nice
potential, good synergy.
And there's a lot to to diveinto here.
But obviously before that, whatdo you think, Amanda, about
Captain Carter, what's your starrating?
Alexander Coccia (06:46):
Star rating,
man, it, this month is by far
one of the hardest to star rate.
Yeah.
Do you have that too?
Cozy Snap (06:52):
I'm glad I'm not
alone.
Okay.
Alexander Coccia (06:53):
Yeah.
Yeah.
Like I, I feel like I'm prettyhigh on most of the cards with
maybe one, one or two that I'mlower on.
Captain Carter, I'm prettydecently high on I, I'm giving
her a four stars.
And for that reason why is like,I, you can see the potential
combinations with like withCaptain America and everything
else, and like the amount ofpotential she has is incredible.
The thing that holds me back ishow this macro interaction of
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the lanes, not the lanes, butlike the positioning, if it's
gonna be easy enough to kind ofcontrol.
Yeah.
But I had this thought, cozy,let me know.
I think that Captain Carter wasthe actual reason why Doom 2099.
No, no question.
Yeah.
Cozy Snap (07:29):
Yeah.
We'll get, we'll get there injust a moment.
No, no question.
That, that, that's the reason.
And one other card, obviously,that'll be the next one to talk
about.
I agree.
It's funny, like right off therip, you look at her stats and
what she does, I'm like fivestar, right?
Like, I mean, dude, this is justa good card value all the way.
But I agree, and it's not evenjust the fact of cards behind
her.
For me, and again, we could bedoing the interview next month
and be laughing at ourselves,like, how do we not see?
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It was a five star to me though,when you're stacking that heavy
in a lane, right?
It just.
Do you need all that power inthe lane?
Now there's cars we're gonnatalk about, but like you're
committing so much cost andpower to one side of things.
And there's a couple decks thatI think she's gonna be a five
star card, right?
Like what her purpose is.
But overall, I think I agreewith you.
I think I'm gonna go with abouta four here.
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And this is our first timeinteracting with the back row
thing, so we're gonna have tosee if that, you know, ends up
being something that's easy,hard.
And then we're gonna have a, agood foot moving forward with
it.
Now, obviously.
Yes.
Let's go ahead and start with.
I think let's just start withongoing cards in general here.
Spectrum.
I think this is a great spectrumcard.
We we're gonna see a lot of itspotential because you got cheap
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cards that you could throw inthere behind almost all the
cards in the season just havekind of synergy with each other.
There's a lot of them that wannabe with one another.
So I think we got that going forher.
Yeah, she's cool.
She's interesting.
I think, man, for theydefinitely had to make her
forecast.
Anything other than that wasgonna go was gonna go a bit too
crazy.
But man, I mean, outside ofspectrum, there's one clear and
obvious.
Archetype that I think is herbread and butter.
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But what I'll let, I'll hand itoff to you.
Alexander Coccia (08:58):
I was gonna
say it has to be the Doom 2099
style archetype.
Because what, like, what you'relooking at is the opportunity to
like,'cause you do have 2 20 99spectrum decks and if you think
about running something like alike a sidewalk where you can
sneak out the doom 2099 early,or I.
Conversely, you can sneak outthe Captain Carter early.
You have this, these multipleplay lines, which those decks
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tend to like prefer.
'cause if you put all your eggsin one basket in some of the
deck building scenarios, thenyou're gonna find yourself
disappointed half the time.
But some of the best decks outthere are the ones that seem to
have like all these.
Multiple bylines, like the, theway that the modern scream decks
work.
You, you don't draw a scream,but you, but you have iron
patriot and you have Sam Wilsonand you have craven and like you
have all these other ways towin.
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And so like yeah, I, Idefinitely think that Doom 2099
in testing was absolutelycracked because the spectrum
variant of that deck is gonnalove Captain Carter.
Cozy Snap (09:49):
Yeah.
It just makes it easy.
And then of course, yeah, you'rehaving a a car that's able to
produce more and more cars thatjust.
Kind of makes sense together.
I actually think tribunal willwill be fun too.
I think tribunal like is morethan a meme here by a good
amount.
I mean, having that onslaught,like the curve out is really
cool.
Now it's got a obvious hardcounter.
You know, tribunal's gonna dotribunal things.
But clearly the scaling is evencrazier, so the floor is that
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much better.
And then you can also get thingsgoing if you don't get certain
draws.
So I like that.
You know, I like that youmentioned Cylo.
I think she's the definition ofthere are like five or six
forecast cards that would becracked with her, right?
Like from Galata, you name it.
There's so many things that cancontinue to give her power that
she can pump behind her.
And a lot of those cards areforecast cards, you know?
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Now listen, a lot of people,they're pissed off about the
whole Captain America Shield andnot, not giving her power.
Yeah.
I will weigh you into this,Alex.
I, the argument was that it'sif, if Captain America never
existed and she existed, theshield wouldn't be Captain
America Shield, it'd be captain.
So apparently that's theargument.
What do you think?
Alexander Coccia (10:51):
I tend to
think that.
Glen is going to fierce fiercelydefend the fact that this is not
Captain America's shield andhe'll forever do so simply for
balance reasons.
Yeah.
You'll never convince himotherwise.
Simply for balance reasons.
There's a good Spiderman if, ifshe was getting buffed by Sam
Wilson's shield, you have anyidea how pissed off and cracked
that would be?
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Everyone would be so mad.
Yeah.
It would be so unbelievablybusted.
So for pure balance reasons,you'll never see Glen say
anything other than it's not capshield.
Cozy Snap (11:20):
Dude, I, yeah, that
in the 2099 deck, you'll die in
those hills and we'll, we'll let'em have it, but yeah, I know
people, people have gone throughit.
Totally, totally.
I totally get it.
I think this is just a, yeah,no.
We're just gonna, we're justgonna move on.
Is, is what they, what they haveto say there.
I think it was dangerous wordingwhat they did with that, with a,
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you know, give cap shieldbecause there's not gonna be
another cap most likely.
So, I don't know interestingpickle they got themselves in.
But yeah, dude, you know, Ithink we've fallen into the trap
of these power boosted cardsbefore.
Scarlet Spider comes to mindwhere it's like, in theory
there's like some really crazystuff that you can do, but I
think she's a bit easier justbecause of the way that she's
gonna work.
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Although, you know, could thistip the scales?
Could you have the, the ironhard ity, gwyn pool, Scarlet
spider?
You know, maybe we will, we willhave to find out.
But I think just at a corebaseline, what she does well is
gonna be, you know, worth herspot in, in a good amount of
decks.
Alexander Coccia (12:17):
No, for sure
dude.
Like I actually think that shecan definitely be impactful and
if you want to get into a bit ofcope right off the bat, like,
okay, listen, I know, I knowpeople are gonna talk some smack
here.
She's a forecast.
I'm just gonna throw this outthere.
If you, Jean Gray, captainAmerica and Mojo, right?
And you have that kind of setup.
You're forcing'em to play intoyour location and also you're
gonna be filling that locationanyway with Ongoings and she'll
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buff that up and help to tradethat location.
Maybe you throw in the more inthe right lane, you know what I
mean?
Omega red.
Then you spectrum Omega red inthe
Cozy Snap (12:47):
mojo lane.
They're gonna lose it.
There's no shot.
There's no shot.
They win it.
I like it.
The Moonstone, if you just wantto go even, great.
I think Moonstone not with thiscard, but Moonstones gonna be
feasting this month too.
But super squirrel, man.
The stalks.
On super scroll, like you, thisis the easiest.
Like, you wanna save money,everybody's gonna be playing
this card.
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Super.
Scroll it up, get all thebenefits, rejoice.
But yeah, man, I think you know,what I'm gonna be interested in
is seeing kind of these fillerdecks, right?
Where you've got like, I don'tknow, wasps and my sinisters,
mysterious, you name it,squirrels, just trying to fill
that back line with her.
And, and that's gonna be we willsee how those decks kind of come
together and what they end upbeing.
But it's cool man to see a deck,like the Spectrum deck continue
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to get better and better sincethe release of this game.
And like now it's becoming aserious threat, man.
And I think, you know, do youhave any other things to say
about Captain Carter?
Alexander Coccia (13:41):
Yeah, I think
about like the feedback loops
that are available in somethinglike ongoing.
Like what, what happens with a,like a blue mar, right?
A blue Marvel's gonna buff.
Captain Marvel, or not CaptainMarvel, captain Carter.
And she's gonna then apply thatbuff into the back row.
But that back row is also beingbuffed by Blue Marvel.
So you're kind of double dippingon that buff.
So I think that's kind of cool.
Yeah.
Worth considering.
But if you onslaught the CaptainCarter Blue, Marvel Lean, and
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then it doubles the double,which then pulls it back.
And then I just think that'skind of fascinating and I'll let
the game do the math on it.
But I think you're right, man.
If you're, if you're runninglike Azabu style deck with this
and you just literally run likesuper scroll.
Pool Galata and Captain Carter,like you're just kinda laughing
'cause you're gonna feast.
And the thing I think is thatfor the first couple weeks,
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especially with a couple of thecards we're gonna be talking
about upcoming, there's,there's, oh man, there's so many
interesting cards This month,super school's gonna be a legit,
perfect card to add yourcollection because it's just
gonna be.
It's gonna be a great countercarb, but also I think it's
gonna help you win mirrormatches, which we've seen in the
past before.
Cozy Snap (14:40):
Yeah, man, it is
funny, as you were talking about
that there's a car that Ihaven't seen anyone talk about
that I, I always gotta go backto that I think actually has
real potential.
It like, you know, a little bitof a cook of my own.
Not Coke, just a cook.
It's ultra on.
Because if you even think aboutjust the bare minimum play of
going with what you just said,you know, you go Carter Blue
Marvel, and then Ultron, likeyou're able to play Ultron where
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you want to, so you can play itlike behind.
The car due to get boosted up.
Nice.
You got the blue marvel, soyou're kicking up old Sean.
You know, really good metrics atthat point.
But then you got the, you gotthe drones so you could play him
somewhere else.
Get a nice little stack ofpower.
Those drones are gonna both landbehind her, boost up to the
moon.
Right.
And then you also have a wholenother lane with the drones.
Like that's just a lothappening.
I kind of like him as a nicelittle finisher in her deck.
Alexander Coccia (15:25):
I do as well.
And I think one of the keythings that kind of holds back
Captain Carter's versatility isthe fact that she should be in
the first row.
If she's in the second row, ifit interacts the way I would
expect she just busts the cardbeside her type thing.
So if you're able to play herinto a row where she's one of
the first two cards and she's byherself.
Ultra solves that problem.
Yep.
Right.
And I, I actually don't thinkit's cope at all.
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And sometimes the differencebetween coping and cooking is a
very fine line.
It's a fine,
Cozy Snap (15:50):
it's a fine line.
Now, me and you, let's behonest, like there's this, this
tension in the room right nowthat we're just holding back.
This happens sometimes when we,when we film.
It's the next card we want totalk about that just has
everything to do with what wewant to talk about here.
So we might as well just bringit in.
I know we've got Goliath, guys.
Goliath is a Goliath of a cardtwo, one ongoing plus one for
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each ongoing card that you haveplayed.
So it's the morus if you will,kind of, of the ongoing
archetype.
Brother, this card is gonna gobunkers.
This is such a good card, man.
What do you, what do you havefor star ratings on this one?
Alexander Coccia (16:27):
That's, this
is an easy five star clap here.
Easy five.
Cozy Snap (16:30):
Easy five, right?
Yeah.
The, the easy five.
Alexander Coccia (16:32):
This is this.
I can't believe this card didn'talready exist.
Cozy Snap (16:34):
No.
Yeah, well we've been talkingabout it for two years now that
we won a card, you know, morearchetypes to get the plus one
plus two kind of tipping scalescaling cards, if you will.
And I think for a while therewasn't enough for other
archetypes to keep, like, youknow, some of these, like if
MOVE would've got whatever, youknow, it would've been too much.
And I think right now, like thetiming, the place is right.
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This card is good.
Anyway, bro, this is such a goodcard that it's gonna go crazy,
especially the two cost lot.
Like that's the number onereason why it's so cooked.
Man.
This thing is gonna go nuts.
I just talked about moonstone.
That's gotta be probably thebiggest crazy combo with it.
What do you think, man?
Alexander Coccia (17:15):
Yeah,
moonstone absolutely insane.
Insane this month.
Absolutely wild with GolaGoliath.
Sorry.
Honestly, like, I think one ofthe major challenges with
Spectrum for so long has beenthat you haven't had inexpensive
cards worth hitting.
'cause Spectrum is a blanketplus two.
Yep.
So if you're hitting kind ofchunks with that plus two, it's
disproportion, it's likedisproportionately better to hit
smaller cards.
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And I think Captain America'sShield, not Captain America's
Shield, sorry, Sam Wilson andhis shield.
Was particularly beneficial tothe spectrum style decks because
there were two cards in one thatcould get hit by the spectrum
buff, right?
Yep.
One of the challenges that theongoing decks have is like if
you look at the inexpensiveslots, they don't have many one
drops that like you really wantto add to the deck.
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You have the Amman, of course,it just gets a little thin from
there.
But in the two drops you used tocope with stuff like Goose.
You'd even play armor just'causelike why Colo just like
Colossus.
'cause you wanted targets.
Right now Goliath, are youkidding me?
Goliath makes Colossus look likea complete.
Dumbass.
Like, why would you ever playthat card when you can play
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Goliath?
Who is literally borderline the,it's, it's, it's morphous for
ongoing morphous is ongoing, butyou know what I mean.
Right.
Yeah.
It's
Cozy Snap (18:27):
the morphous for
ongoing.
Exactly.
I listen, and I, I said ablunder there when I was saying
the description of the card.
It's not that you have played,it's in play, so June, 2099.
It's so funny'cause we look atwhat they did to the card and
we're like, oh no.
Like, you know, I can't believeit.
And now it's like, is it enough?
Like it's gonna go wild, man.
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I mean there's just so muchsynergy combined.
The fact that he's two that youcan get going with Captain
Carter, then you go into Doomand then you finish with Doom.
Good Go.
I mean, that's gonna be.
Serer level of easy to play thatdoes a lot of power.
That's gonna be tough to put upwith.
Obviously there's a, the moreclear answer on how to counter
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it, but it looks, it looks good.
Alexander Coccia (19:12):
The thing I
see is like, do you remember how
speed was like, this is not anexciting car.
This is better than speed at thetwo drop slot?
Oh, yeah.
Like the capabilities of thisare higher than that of speed.
And speed is a good card.
You know what I mean?
Yeah.
This is a higher ceiling thanspeed, if you can believe it or
not.
Like, like honestly, the onlything that gets me a little
nervous about a car like this.
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I think it prevents you fromhaving like a zoo ongoing card.
And I think that Sam Wilson'sprobably the closest you get.
And by zoo I mean like you can'thave a squirrel girl that throws
ongoings because then Goliathjust feasts and every, and
spectrum just feasts, right?
Yeah.
So I think that like this cardis a bit of a design constraint.
I could see it going down to twozero.
I'm actually surprised it'scoming out as a two one.
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I I think it might be a little,little hot, to be honest with
you.
Cozy Snap (19:57):
Yeah, I mean, it, it
definitely, it, it definitely
has a lot of potential.
I mean, you could even go withlike Goliath and the Mystique
and then you could just startplaying a bunch of load cheap
cards and make it work.
I don't know, we're gonna.
But yeah, I do agree.
I think it is coming in hot andit's crazy to think of that as
even just a two, one morby is atwo zero, he turns out fine.
So two, one at that crazy, youknow, you can do Rvo synergy
with it to get it even cheaperRVOs and ongoing car.
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So that helps kind of get thatwhole thing rolling.
And then obviously, yeah, as wewere just talking about the, the
Captain America, the Shield,immediately giving them a buff
is just so, like, God, thatthing is just so good.
That card is so stupid strong.
You know, it's, it's, it's crazyto see.
If you know the, the spectrumdecks, this is what's really
gonna supercharge it.
You've got the doom thing, butthen you also have this just
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fitting into like a wide varietyof decks where it has solid
value regardless.
So yeah, I'm excited.
I think this thing could go tothe moon and this is probably
the card of the month
Alexander Coccia (20:51):
for sure.
I think it's one of the absolutestrongest power wise of the
month.
Cozy Snap (20:55):
Kari is a four six
honor reveal.
Each card in your hand gives oneof your cards in play plus one
power.
Kari, what do you think aboutthis?
Four, six.
What's your star rating?
Alexander Coccia (21:08):
This is a
great example and there's two
cards in this batch of cardsthat I'm so happy we got the
trailer in advance.
This, they had to change thewording on this.
Yeah, I dunno if you noticedthat they adjusted the wording.
This is a totally differenteffect than what it sounded like
before.
Like before, it's almost soundedlike one card was getting the
power of k.
Now in the trailer, you see it,it's spreading the power.
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And that changes a lot.
'cause that makes cards likeSebastian Shaw like it a lot
more and stuff like that.
Right?
The fact that you're spreadingthe power is a very different
thing.
And so, yeah, I like kri.
I I think it's, it's, I thinkit's good, man.
I think it's good.
I can't see being lower thanfour star.
This is a, a very good fourstar.
Yeah.
I don't, I don't, I don't see ithitting the five star level.
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I'm very comfortable at like a,a solid four star here.
Cozy Snap (21:55):
Yeah, I think so.
I just don't know ultimately howmany decks it ends up being in.
Like, I think the week she comesout, it's really good.
Like just on paper, she's gonnahave, like, her stats are gonna
make sense for a forecast card.
The power spreading out,sometimes you're not gonna want
that, you know, and it's random.
So you do have that going on.
I agree.
I have three and a half.
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I, I, you know, it definitelyconvinced me, I think that, you
know.
Obviously like hand size decksand and and stuff that can
generate a lot of cards and youknow, we're never gonna see
Devil Dinosaur in the collectordeck come back.
There's just no way.
But that kind of style would'vebeen like her main home.
But then Captain Carter for one,let's just talk about that.
It's a forecast so it doesn't,you know, it's not all that
much, but you get some powerthere for Captain and get some
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more things buffed up.
I just wanna know, like, youknow, Galata was the standard of
like the four that can be playedanywhere.
I don't know if she's got thatkind of.
Staying power, but shedefinitely is solid.
Like she can do a lot.
There are some re like Galacticdidn't have any restrictions
other than playing another lane.
This one you have to at leasthave your, your cards and your,
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you know, you gotta have somethings cooking a little bit.
But the values there.
So I have her three and a half.
I wanna see kind of where shefits in.
Alexander Coccia (23:04):
I think she is
gonna be niche.
I think that what you have toconsider is that Victoria hand
was solid when it released.
Yeah.
Those decks were close to beinglike legit.
They just didn't quite make itto the top.
And people in Marvel Snap, theytend to play the best'cause they
want to be competitive.
And Victoria Hand was justoutside that.
This is a Victoria hand card.
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This is a hand Genn card.
And that deck with this powerinfusion, I think is
significantly stronger.
Yeah.
And you only need one deckreally, to make a card shine.
Cozy Snap (23:34):
Oh, for sure, man.
And then, yeah, you startsnowballing the Patriot, iron,
Patriot, and Agent Colson, andyou got, you got variants and
then rgs kinda like the point ofit in a good way.
So I, yeah, I, I agree.
I think there, there could be alot here.
I'm gonna be excited how it goesout.
I'm gonna go a little lower atthree and a half, but I still
think it's a great card.
Speaking of man.
So anything else there, by theway, I mean, I feel like there's
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a, there's plenty we could talkabout with her, but also like,
also not she's on reveal.
We could say it wrong.
We could say, you know, grandMaster absorb it, whatever the,
for, it's the forecast.
Like if that, you know, it'sjust tough to make things work
from there.
Alexander Coccia (24:10):
Yeah, it's
just the cards.
Like I think that like ScarletSpider could be potentially a
target.
Captain Marvel likes the extrapower, but what I would like for
you to do cozy, just right offthe top of putting you on the
spot I'd like you to rank thesethree cards.
Khoi Gwenpool.
Galata.
How would you rank those three?
Cozy Snap (24:25):
Yeah.
'cause Gren pool.
Alexander Coccia (24:27):
Mm.
So hard now, especially with thenews.
No, I would go,
Cozy Snap (24:31):
I would go Galactic
Horri then, then Gwen Gwynn
pool.
Yeah.
Gwen.
It's so much harder to controlyour deck than the cards in
play.
So Kri, at least you can likeget, you know, you could, you
could map it out a bit easier.
I think the Lact is justconsistently good.
Like consistently strong.
Obviously that had a air, air.
So that's probably my order.
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How about you?
Alexander Coccia (24:53):
You know what
I, I tend to agree with what
you're saying.
I might put kri over Gwenpool.
The only reason why is, that'swhat I said, kri of those cards
is the one that can be playedlate, can be played on turn six.
You know what I mean?
You can play it in conjunctionwith a, a mirage or if you have
extra energy, you can play itwith the coleson and it'll
spread power.
You know what I mean?
It'll be disproportionate,pretty good for your lineup.
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So yeah, like, I don't know.
Those other two definitely wantto be out early.
Kari can be played late, sothey're all
Cozy Snap (25:18):
different.
You said over wind pool, do youmean Galata?
I'm just curious.
Alexander Coccia (25:20):
I said what?
Cozy Snap (25:21):
No, it's, we could do
an emergency shower.
No.
So rank them number one.
What's number one out of thosethree?
Alexander Coccia (25:26):
I would go
Galata.
Gwenpool.
Okay.
No, sorry.
Galata.
Kri.
Gwenpool.
Cozy Snap (25:30):
Okay.
So we're, we're the same.
Okay.
That's what, that was my, myordering as well.
Okay.
I wanted to, I wanted to makesure.
Oh, I
Alexander Coccia (25:36):
thought you
had Kri last.
Cozy Snap (25:37):
No, she's second.
No, I think she's better thanwind pool.
GW pool's too tough that I wassaying GR pool.
You have to, you know, manageyour hand and so that's tougher
to do than managing cards inplay, essentially.
What does that be like to targetthe plus power is my thought.
If you were to take'em to acandlelight dinner, a a
candlelight dinner, what wouldbe, what would be your order?
1, 2, 3 for a candlelightdinner.
Alexander Coccia (25:57):
Oh, damn.
You know what, I, I think I'd gocohort one.
You know, my, my family has somesome indigenous relatives and
roots, and so I would like tolearn more about the appreciate
that the mohawk tradition.
What a,
Cozy Snap (26:07):
what a man of the
people who would you take to a
candlelight dinner?
And he is like, you know, myfamily.
Comes.
Hey, that's a solid answer,Alex.
That's a thank you.
Mine.
Thank mine.
As I turn them all down, I takeaero to a hell of a time.
That's, that's
Alexander Coccia (26:19):
like a true
gentleman.
Yeah, like a true gentleman.
Cozy Snap (26:22):
Well, buddy
definitely excited to see where,
where Khor ends up.
We're placed into these cards,man.
Again, but these are a littlebit more level to earth, right?
Like, you know, we talk aboutfrigging fire hair last time and
you got like a million thingsyou could talk about, but then
we get to the next card, andthis is the.
This is the big tuna.
This is the what, what couldthere be going on Here we have
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Infinity Ultron, guys.
Infinity Ultron is gonna be afive six.
And when you play him down, he'sgonna give you two of his
Infinity Stones.
Two, your hand.
And my friend.
We don't have the Stones.
They didn't, they didn't give usa i I, I can put, I'll, I'll be
putting'em in post here.
We're gonna read through theStones one at a time.
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Let's start with his base beforewe get to the Stones.
Just his base, he's a five six.
Adds to these stones.
These stones are relativelypretty good.
What are your initialimpressions before diving into
the stones?
Alexander Coccia (27:14):
I got a little
bit of bad news.
I think I talked my soda selfout of liking infinity Ultron.
Okay.
I think I like it still as acard, what you have.
Right.
But I think I doubt it's power.
Cozy Snap (27:26):
I think that's fair.
I actually think we gave him athree.
I think I gave him a three lasttime.
I think I'm sticking with athree.
Alexander Coccia (27:31):
I was gonna
say, I, I missed three.
Three.
I thought that was gonna be low.
I thought you were gonna be wayhigher than that.
No, no, no.
So we're on the same page.
Cozy Snap (27:38):
No, but he's a five
star fun card.
So like, this is one of thosecars that it's just like, it's
fun to play.
It's like the Mr.
Negative archetype.
It's like, that to me is whatthis card is.
Right?
So like they, we see this everyseason, every other season.
You've got like the competitivecards, the try hard cards, the
ones that are fun, that aren'tdominant always, but fun.
And then you got the others, youknow, the, you got the.
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Crap cars out there too.
But I would agree.
I think competitively it's athree and I, I, I don't know if
it's gonna make much room there,but it's, put it this way
because it reminds me ofnegative because there are,
there are stone combos that youcan get as I'm about to read
them, that win you games.
Like you'll just win the game.
You know, if you get these stonecombos.
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And then there's stuff thatyou're like, there's just,
you're gonna, there's not enoughmomentum there, and that's the
negative.
You know what I mean?
Like that's, that's where it'sfun and not competitive.
Alexander Coccia (28:31):
You know where
my thought process went.
The reason why I talked myselfdown off liking this card too
much.
Okay.
And I think you're right, butyou won't be able to reliably
get specific combos, right?
'cause it's gonna be randomcards you get.
I want you to think about howbad, not bad, but how it feels
to play.
Sarah, on turn five I.
You play Sarah, and you feellike you're behind on that turn,
like you've given something upon that turn to play, Sarah.
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This is only one power more thanthat.
And then the whole backup planto, or the whole reason why you
play Sarah, is then you comeback that next six turns.
Exactly.
With the gravy.
Right.
And this is exactly the samething, except you're coming with
like.
Random stones.
Whereas Sarah, it's like silversurfer abs man.
Like you got a plan, right?
Like you got these bangers, yougot, oh, you juggernaut outta
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here, you surfer into whatever,like you have a plan of three
cards.
If you're playing surfer, forinstance, with Vinny Ultron, you
might win the lottery of thestones.
You get, you might not win thelottery.
Do you run six drops or do youjust rely on the Infinity Tron
for turn six?
So for me, I was like, ah.
Dude, first off, first
Cozy Snap (29:30):
off, March.
Mad is like, Sarah Miracle islike a free throw to win it.
And, and then old Sean's like ahalf court shot.
Like, it's like you'redefinitely, it's just tougher.
You're putting yourself at adisadvantage to read through the
stones real quick, guys, we got'em all right here.
So Old Sean's Space Stone is athree four honor reveal.
Move the lowest Power Enemy cardhere to the location of Infinity
UL Ultra.
All right, so that's the spacestone, and then we'll kind of go
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through'em all the realitystone.
Add a drone here and set itspower to Infinity Ultras.
Okay, hold it.
Hold you knowledge.
You've got the time.
Stone three one on reveal.
Put a card from your hand here.
Mine stone.
Your on reveal.
Ongoing.
Your on reveal abilities Ha Herehappen twice.
It's a three two.
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Keep this in mind.
Power stone.
Honor reveal double infinity,ultron power, and then the soul
stone.
Honor reveal for each of yourfull location.
Locations.
Give one of your cards here,plus two power.
So some of these are cracked,like some of these are really
good, but there's just too muchvariance.
Let's talk about which ones youlike the most.
Alexander Coccia (30:34):
I definitely
like the Mini Wong.
And obviously won wonk.
You know, you mini Wong intolike giving him additional power
and that's cool, but that's alsovery vertical, right?
And Marvel snap's not alwaysabout going vertical.
'cause if you wanna go reallyvertical, you could just play a
blob, you know what I mean?
Or like, there's, there's otherways to do that that are more
consistent than this.
And that's kind of what bringsme off him a little bit.
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Right?
And I had this thought of like,what if you play magic on three
and then like you InfinitiAltron, and then you odin the
Infinity altron and then you gotall these stones and you're
like, what am I gonna do withthese stones?
Have so many options.
I don't even know if you can getreplicated stones.
Like could you get double wons?
Like could you, I don't know.
Right?
But yeah, like the stones aregood, but you commit your turn
six to'em.
Cozy Snap (31:14):
Yeah, so the, my
problem with the card is it's
not even it being a five six andyou've got the miracle plate.
It's that these are three costs,man.
It's just, so that's like sucha, a gift.
We can, you could, you couldquine it, which makes it a two,
but you're only getting twostones.
So then at that point it's like,okay, well then.
They got another two to play.
You know, so it's just like the,the end result is weird.
I actually think the one thatyou double Han's power there and
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then you play the drone that'sgonna match the power is, that's
a very strong play.
Or the one where it's gonna playone of your cards that you have
in your hand.
I mean, that's clearly insane.
So I get what they did.
High cost, really goodabilities, but with so much
variance and as like a lastHarold Mary, and you have to
throw turn five.
I wish the cards were two cost,probably like, to me that that
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sounds way more fun, fair,collective.
And then you can maybe G Jettand then they won and then you
can get something going.
So yeah, I, I agree.
I think it's a lot of fun.
I just dunno how consistentit'll be.
Alexander Coccia (32:07):
I wonder if
one of the ways you balance the
card is by giving it a thirdstone.
What if you add a third stone asthe on reveal?
Right?
Then suddenly Quinjet makes moresense.
'cause you fully commit to Tron.
You either play two Stoneswithout Quinjet or three stones
with Quinjet.
Okay.
You just have to make sure youget unique stones to prevent too
much combo centric play.
That might be a massive powerspike though.
Yeah.
Because not only are you gonnareduce the variance of the card
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because like the, you're gonnaget more consistent results from
the, the stones you draw.
But if you like, if you don'thave quinjet, you have to choose
the best two, the three,depending on the situation.
What I think it's fun and if youhave quinjet, you can just throw
all three down.
I almost like having the idea ofthree stones, but then again,
we're talking about a card thathasn't even released, like what
we're buffing a card that wehaven't got in our hands because
of that.
You know, this is gonna be thebest one in the month.
Right?
Cozy Snap (32:48):
Yeah, for sure.
Right.
I mean, I would say, if youthink about the variance, we did
this with Kate Bishop, right?
Let's like the soul stone is foreach full location, it's plus
two power, right?
To your cars.
That I would say.
Would rather not.
Right.
Power stone.
Double His power is fine.
That's a good one.
Honor reveal happened twice.
Yes.
Put a card here is the best.
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I think the put a card heremight be the best one.
'cause you're three cars.
You could really get thingsgoing with that.
I again though, what does thedeck look like?
There's probably two cars.
The Space Stone's.
Okay.
You can move the lowest enemypowered card over to Trons
location.
I almost wish that was thehighest powered card there.
Right?
Because then you make a contestwith Tron.
And its power that it would haveat that point, right?
Maybe potentially.
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So there's like two-ish badones.
So you get, so you could getthose too.
That would be awful.
And then there's obviously likefour, like pretty good ones.
Yeah.
Overall, man, I just don't know.
I just think it's a fun card.
And you know, I don't know howmuch you can even cook with it
at this stage till we get ourhands on it.
Alexander Coccia (33:48):
Yeah, no, I, I
agree.
Absolutely.
Cozy Snap (33:50):
Strange Supreme guys.
Now, strange Supreme is is oneof the few that we have.
First of all, great episode.
Strange Supreme is a two two andit gains plus two power when it
merges.
Now it's gonna merge at the endof the turn with one of your
created cards into this.
So, sorry, it's gonna merge oneof your created cards into
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Strange.
Can this be anywhere on theboard?
Correct.
Alexander Coccia (34:16):
So this is the
second one that watching the
trailer in advance was certainlyappreciated.
First of all, they buffed it onour preview, which was like a
month or whatever, two monthsago.
Now at this point it was twozero.
Now it's a two.
Two.
Yep.
But the same effect except.
On the actual video, they didshowcase it drawing car Emerge
card from any of the locations.
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Yeah, that's a huge crackchange.
I almost assumed it had to be onthe original one, but no siry,
Bob.
No.
It can be pulling from anywhereand that's a huge buff.
Yeah, I mean it could bedetrimental too, but that's a
very significant change.
Before we dive in, what youstart
Cozy Snap (34:49):
rating.
Alexander Coccia (34:51):
You know what,
this is the one that I came in
at like in our preview.
You're like, Alex, what do youthink?
I was like, ah, you know, itseems like a two star card, but
not anymore.
No, not after seeing thattrailer.
This card is good.
There are some dirtycombinations we're gonna talk
about momentarily here, butlike, I, I wanna go like 4.5.
Like, I, I don't think it's asgood as Goliath, but this could
be one of the cards of themonth.
It would not surprise me becauseof the way it's gonna synergize
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in some very ruthlessstrategies.
Yeah.
I, I'm gonna go four, but like,I would go 4.5 if I, if I could
allow myself.
Cozy Snap (35:20):
Yeah, I think 4.5
sounds about right.
Yeah.
So like this thing just haslimitless potential and I think
it's floor is, it's floor isjust great as a two cost card,
right?
Because there's so many cardsthat synergize with it that
we're gonna dive into.
But then it continues just to,the plus two on top of merging
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makes this thing crazy.
Obviously R and Abola super fun.
Like super fun.
That's like a, a killer time.
But talk to me about some of themerge cards that you could get
going with this.
Alexander Coccia (35:50):
Well, right
off the top man.
It's insane.
With debris.
Yeah.
Like talk about one, one manhaving fun.
The other person just wanted tosmash their phone.
Yeah.
You debris them, you take upthree slots on their board, or
two slots on the board, I shouldsay.
And then with you, you're just,you're just feasting on those
rocks.
You're feasting on the rocks,getting buffed, clearing up the
space.
I think that's absolutelyinsane.
Yeah, man.
Another good interaction.
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I would be interested to see theinteraction with Mysterio.
Like if he, I don't know thisanswer, but if he eats the
clones or if he eats the realone, does he get the plus four
after?
Probably not like he, but you dotechnically clear the clones.
No.
Cozy Snap (36:22):
Yeah, I think so.
I think it's gonna work whereyou clear the, the, the clones,
I guess as could be a slightrisk.
But either way it's likesquirrel girl is, is just a
crazy, like playing squirrelinto him, into debris is such a
silly line.
Like it's just there's a lot ofmerging happening.
Yeah, there's some clog, butthen he's able to clear it up on
your side.
Their side's a little bittougher.
And then you can kind ofcontinue to punch this.
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It's like the anti claw card,but also encourages c Clogged
play.
Like, like it's one of thoseagain.
I just think this thing has alot of use across the board.
You're able to build a lanevertically while also playing
cards that go wide, which isalways nice to have.
Man, I don't know the, the, I, Ithink 4.5 feels about right.
I think we could also look backand say, wow, yeah, this was the
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card of the month.
Because look at where he isbeing plugged into.
It's a two cost card man, and 25, 2 6 oftentimes is like, you
know, the fact that it's a twotwo now is so crazy to me.
It's, it's a one merge.
It's a two four.
That's wild.
Alexander Coccia (37:18):
There's a
couple things though.
Like, first of all it could workreally well with Thanos, for
instance,'cause Thanos too oftenwanna clear those rocks.
You'd even go as far as tokillmonger them sometimes.
Right.
The only major problem I see isthat it counteracts some of the
strongest cards in the game,like Mockingbird.
Is now like you can'tmockingbird in that deck because
you're taking out all ofmockingbirds discounted like
cards, right?
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All those enablers and somethinglike a Victoria hand, which is
going get the benefit of kri,those created cards are gonna
get munched on.
Right?
So you, you know, you got, oh,actually like Victoria hand.
Nah, she probably won't like it.
Anyway.
I was gonna cope for a sec, butNo, no, you're not gonna play
those two together, butrealistically, I saw it as a, a
challenge for Mockingbird.
For sure.
So those decks are kind ofGilgamesh with each other.
Gilgamesh
Cozy Snap (37:59):
too.
Yeah.
Like you, you're gonna be eatingthe squirrels by the time he
comes out, he'll get the buff,which is nice from him, but like
there's not, yeah, I, yeah,there are some, I think they
kind of thought that out alittle bit.
Like some of these super strongsynergies may not work with
them.
I agree There.
I think though, having theability to, to play things and
get your, you know, locationsnot completely full is, is a
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huge stepping stone.
'cause that's a hurdle thatwe've ran into a lot in Snap.
Right.
So that, that's potentially a,a, a big bonus.
Alexander Coccia (38:27):
He will not
work effectively probably with
Captain Carter, I would imagine.
'cause he's gonna eat stuff andmove things outta there maybe.
Well, I don't know.
The only other thing I can thinkof, he's obviously gonna be a
magnet for Shadow King andShachi.
Those will be big mags for him.
And if you Zola him, will he eathimself?
Cozy Snap (38:44):
If you Zola him, if
you zola him, will he eat
himself?
What a question, bro.
Yeah, I think so.
Right?
That's awesome.
Hey, because you
Alexander Coccia (38:53):
mentioned it
before, I was like, wait a
minute, wait a second.
Do all
Cozy Snap (38:56):
eat themselves?
Like is there only one leftover?
Because,'cause the first oneeats the second one and the
third one eats the that one andthen it's done.
Alexander Coccia (39:04):
I have no idea
bud.
Cozy Snap (39:06):
Bro, that's it.
That's a, a plus interaction.
That, that's the the late nightAlex coach.
Coaching questions you'd love tosee.
Last but not least, actually wehave two.
We have hydro stomper now.
Hydro stomper is a again, Alexkind of like Mobius, what we
just said.
We want more of these for otherarchetypes.
Well move finally has its, it isa three cost, two power card
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ongoing, plus one power for eachtime.
One of your cards moved.
This game and they change it towhere it's now each time it
moves, not if a car one single,you know, card moves.
So that's really good.
That's really gonna help it justget higher and higher.
But what are your thoughts onthe card?
I.
Alexander Coccia (39:46):
I think I love
this card.
I still think that the originaldata mind of you getting buffed
for how often any card moved,which allowed it to play the
screen decks was still probablya card that I think comes out in
Marvel Snap.
This was originally a three one.
They buffed it to three two, andI think that should be a red
flag for the most part, but it'snot for me.
I can see this card beingabsolutely wild.
There's a couple reallysynergistic cards, but like,
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yeah, this is very naturally avery good move card that I think
does not rely on like combomove.
Like right now, move is very fribounce centric.
Like it's very head gamey andthis is like, no, no, don't
worry about that.
Just play, move, put cards onthe field and let them all, you
know, Chacha slide, laughter,whatever it is.
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Right?
So there's a couple cards thatare gonna be true bangers with
hydros stopper.
I'm pretty impressed with it.
Cozy Snap (40:33):
Yeah, no, I agree,
man.
I think that my reservation,what, what was the star rating
you gave him?
Alexander Coccia (40:38):
You know what?
On my notes I have 4.5 questionmark.
Whoa.
Like, almost willing to go thathigh.
I think Hydro stomper.
My concern is that I wonder ifthe move decks that it's in
aren't good enough, but I thinkthe card is super good.
That's, know what I mean?
That's card is, that's my mainconcern.
Cozy Snap (40:52):
I was gonna say, if
you wanna know my concern, it's,
it's, it's a move card, bro.
I have, I'm done getting torchedby like the, the Madam Web of
the world.
Like I'd, I'd get, I'd getexcited and then I get reminded
it's in the move archetype.
Like I think this is a great.
Fantastic card for the archetypethat can really help it scale
vertically in lanes that itneeds to.
And it, it's fascinating with alot of the synergy that can be
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done move historically, threecosts is such a hyper aggressive
cost.
That's one of the issues likevulture and setting up moves,
you only have so much time tomove stuff, right?
So like, clearly Heim Dell is,is like the winner because
you're able to have like a bigWolff move and then everything
goes up at the same time andthen whatever.
Right.
That's great.
And then some of theseindependent movers, like Jeff is
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great too.
Like those are the ones that Ithink are really cool as like a
general use.
I'm gonna go with a threethough, just because of I've
been barren too many times and Ifeel like I don't, I don't, I, I
could even go low.
I feel like I might even go twoand a half.
I might, I'm gonna go two and ahalf.
I.
Alexander Coccia (41:51):
Two and a
half.
K.
Hold on.
I might change your mind though'cause I think there's a card
that, okay.
You might not realize is as goodas it is with this card.
If you play silk on curve andyou play hydro stomper on top,
hydro stomper re resolves silkmoves and it immediately gets
buffed.
And then every single card youplay from then on silk is moving
and buffing hydro stomper.
Cozy Snap (42:13):
Yo, hold on now.
Alexander Coccia (42:14):
See?
No, see, see, once you start tothink about it, so it's outside,
can start moving everywhere,bud.
Cozy Snap (42:20):
So, you know what,
this is a great, great job
because to me, in a, in a, in aregular move deck, I just, I'm
not getting burned again.
And these other type of movedecks where you get, like, you
get the, the, the, yeah, thecraving, the silk, the silky
smoothie, whatever, right?
And you get these cars that justmove on their own, like I said.
But the silk.
It's interesting.
Heck, even hydro Bob in there.
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You get the initial Snap man,get the Sam Wilson, get him
going.
Sam Wilson has a lot of movementtoo.
So let's say you can move 3, 4,5, 5 times.
Yeah.
Then it's getting up to, dang.
Okay.
Okay.
Alright.
I think it could be pretty goodthen.
Alexander Coccia (42:57):
Wow, I'm
impressed.
Think about silk, right?
Think, think about like on oneturn.
'cause your opponent will forcesilk to move too.
So like they play on silk, silkmoves, silk moves, silk moves.
You're playing on silk, silk'smoving, silk's moving, like they
can pro it more than you think.
Cozy Snap (43:13):
Not to mention this
is just a great Spider-Man, by
the way, not to mention thatmove cards like the, these decks
have always been good.
Silky Smith was good because youhave the agency of moving too.
So like now you have this thingto move, but then you also get.
I wanna see how it, how itcurves out.
Yeah.
I'm definitely not giving it twoand a half now.
I, I probably three though.
I'm still gonna go three, but Iwanna be wrong.
I wanna be wrong with this one.
Alexander Coccia (43:33):
I talked you
off usually Do you do that to
me?
Yeah.
I
Cozy Snap (43:35):
like the silk.
Yeah.
Yeah, I do.
I like it for whatever reason.
'cause scream is what allowsthis card to exist pretty much.
You know, like this is just agood card to be able to get
counted by, scream.
But man, I like it a lot.
I do.
Last but not least, we havedumb, dumb dugan.
This is the high.
You're dug in.
This is the high voltage card ofthe month.
Two three, your front row cardshere at plus one power.
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So it's a two five and you'vegotta play a little bit later.
Two, four, if you play it oncurve, I guess.
Okay.
I think, honestly this is finefor spectrum decks.
Alexander Coccia (44:06):
I mean, this
is, again, it, it provides a
feedback loop to Agent Carterthat we were kind of discussing
before.
Right.
And it's another inexpensivecard that allows spectrum hits.
It's probably good.
It's, it's the least exciting,I'll tell you.
I'm giving you the two starsbecause even though I can see it
seeing play, I don't think it'sgonna be competitive at the end
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of the day because now you're,you're really playing too much
into the positioning of thecards.
I think.
And I think there's gonna bebetter cards to include an
ongoing, especially with likewhat?
You're gonna play dumb dumb overhere instead of playing Goliath.
Get the hell outta here.
Like, you know what I mean?
It's not gonna happen.
You're gonna have Goliath in thedeck, you're gonna have
Moonstone in the deck, thedeck's gonna build itself and
dumb dumb ain't gonna be inthere.
Cozy Snap (44:48):
Dumb do's the free
card of the month.
Yeah, I think he's fine forSpectrum, but yeah, he's
definitely the free, like, oh,you didn't get Goliath.
We have Goliath at home.
You know, like that that,'causeyou know, he has what, two
separate potential spectrum.
So.
Okay.
You know?
All right, I see, I see thevision.
And he is theoretically prettyeasy to get to a two five.
I think he's okay, dude, Idon't, I don't think he's that
bad.
I think he's actually prettygood.
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I'm gonna give him like a three.
Alexander Coccia (45:11):
Okay.
So I'm two U three.
I.
Cozy Snap (45:13):
Yeah,
Alexander Coccia (45:13):
I feel like
you dumbs gonna be the card of
the month, basically.
I see.
This is what's gonna happen.
Dumb dumbs gonna break thematter.
Cozy Snap (45:18):
Five star for dub
dub.
Now speaking of I don't, I wasgonna say, speaking of dumb
dumbs, that was a, that's anAlex, coach.
Coach a transition right there.
Good god.
We're trying to hold ittogether.
Let's talk about the OTA beforewe close things here for the new
season.
But you rankings, but Oh, yeah,that's right.
That's right.
Okay.
Let's rank the cars.
Alex, top to bottom.
I got my ranks ready.
Starting with the best, best ofthe month is what
Alexander Coccia (45:38):
number one
Goliath.
Agreed.
Number two.
I, dude, I didn't know what todo these.
I went back and forth on them.
I'm gonna take a risk.
I'm gonna say Hydra.
Stompers too.
Yo.
Holy shit.
Cozy Snap (45:51):
Okay.
I like it.
I thought you were debatingbetween strange.
I'm gonna go Catholic Cartertoo.
Alexander Coccia (45:55):
Captain Carter
to No Way.
Okay.
For me, three.
Oh, strange.
Strange thing.
Captain.
Yeah, strange thing, captain.
Okay, that makes more sense.
I thought you were higher onStrange.
Here's the problem
Cozy Snap (46:04):
though, bro, is that
season's, the pass cards, they
always overdeliver.
Every time we rank'em low,they're always like the best
card of the month.
So it's like I could just see usbeing burned here, clip it right
now.
But yeah, it's strange.
Then Captain Carter and you haveHydra too, and then you have
Captain after that.
Alexander Coccia (46:18):
So the way I
have it is Goliath Hydro Stomper
Strange Supreme Agent Carter.
And then next I have Kori.
Cozy Snap (46:26):
Khors.
Next I'm gonna go, Ooh, yo.
This is a fun one to rank Khor.
Next, I'm gonna go.
Yeah.
Kho.
Yeah.
It's gotta be.
It's gotta be.
And
Alexander Coccia (46:36):
then Infinity
Ultron.
Dumb dumb.
Cozy Snap (46:38):
I think dumb dumb
That Infinity Ultron.
Alexander Coccia (46:40):
What?
Infinity Ultron gets loses todumb dumb.
I'm just kidding, bro.
Cozy Snap (46:45):
I mean, what?
He's a two think, just thinkabout this though real quick.
We loved lizards so much.
We freaked out about him'causehe is a two five for so long.
Dumb, dumb is a very easy twofive.
Alexander Coccia (46:54):
Dumb.
Dumb sucks.
Cozy Snap (46:55):
He does suck.
I'm just trying to talk off dumbdumb.
I'm trying to get him, I'mtrying to pump up him.
Yeah, I I think we, we prettymuch agree completely except
hydro stomper.
I would have below Carter andyou would have it above.
Strange, which is awesome.
That's,
Alexander Coccia (47:08):
man, this is
one of those things though I get
really nervous'cause like I'mkind of going out on a limb
here.
Like, I don't think other peopleare gonna see hydros stopper as
being an absolute banger.
I just, I just think it's gonnabe really good.
You need to open, I see thenumbers.
Cozy Snap (47:18):
Reach out to me and
you need to open up your, your
hydro Stomper video with the,Alex was deadass wrong.
Intro like I did for the, theHuling.
Alexander Coccia (47:27):
I know.
You know what though?
This will be like the next cardthat people never forgive me for
when I miss on.
Oh, this will, like the next twoyears will be, remember when
Alex said hydros stopper wasgonna be good,
Cozy Snap (47:36):
or you like you the
prophet?
I have that to look forward to.
Or you're the chosen one man.
You're the prophet.
Listen, interesting season.
We're gonna have to see a lot ofa lot play out to see where it
ultimately lands.
Alex, let's go ahead.
Let's talk briefly about theOTA.
You know, obviously we hadgalata.
We had Iron Patriot, who Iquoted I think two months ago
was like, I think one of thebest cars to come out.
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I'm telling you, I think Ithought that car was cracked.
It was my play style.
So I loved it even more.
Evidently it got hit with thenerve for a little bit.
How much were those changes toyou?
How much do you think thoseimpacted it?
Alexander Coccia (48:07):
You know what?
I think they did the right thingwith Iron Patriot because if
they took power off it, it hasthe opposite effect of what
Gladiator did.
Like that power is a veryimportant iron patriot'cause the
whole effect based is based offhim being able to compete in the
location.
And so that power is so muchmore critical.
So if they dropped into a twotwo, I think that card would've
felt significantly worse.
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It'll been much more reliant oncards like Rocket and Groot,
which is a serious five cardthat people are still in the
process of collecting.
And so as a result, changing itto the negative three buff for
the, the card that from negativefour, like the cost reduction, I
think was probably the bestthing they could have done with
it.
Did it have to get Nerf though?
Probably I think this wasprobably the best thing they
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could have done.
Cozy Snap (48:51):
It was so plug and
played.
Yeah.
I mean, it opened up thediscussion about the season
passcodes, the stuff we talkedabout.
Speaking of stuff we talkedabout Alex Kocha nailing it like
a profit soar on two two.
Did it resurrect Sherry Sohan?
Alexander Coccia (49:03):
It absolutely
did.
Yeah, dude, I was about to sayyou're, I was playing this side.
It's like crazy.
Like you're seeing the serershell being used in Sauron right
now and it's legit amongst thehighest win rate cards in the
game right now.
It was so fun and it actuallymade me nervous.
I'm like, are they gonna Nerfsomething in the shell now?
Like they just buff Sauron.
It's Sauron on Sauron.
I'm not sure it's going in twoone.
(49:23):
We keep saying it differently.
We will figure it out one ofthese days, keeping it at two.
But like, I'm like, man, arethey gonna Nerf it now?
Cozy Snap (49:28):
They said they were
experimenting with it.
They did say that they typicallykeep it when they say that, but
yeah, this could, this could godown.
It definitely helped out themain, core identity problems you
know, of the deck in general.
So it was cool to see this cardgo up, hype, you know, just
crazy in value.
And then we had small bump upthe ghost writer and, and, and
it was the, the end bump up.
It was the other bump up.
Alexander Coccia (49:48):
I'm drawing a
blank.
I can't remember.
Pixie, pixie got the other bpixie.
That okay, that one sucked.
Don't, don't gimme that.
I'm too pl giving a pixie plusone.
That was a, you guys forgotabout pixie buff.
That is a, that's not even abuff.
You wanna buff, pixie, give itthe low key treatment, making it
a world drop.
Yeah.
Cozy Snap (50:03):
It's crazy how
there's sometimes a card gets
plus one and we're like, wow.
Makes a big difference.
And there's other times it'slike, it's just not gonna do
anything like.
It's just not gonna make amassive difference for the card.
But altogether, guys, fun seasonto look forward to.
A lot to really just gonna befun, you know, highlighting
these cars each week and, andwhat we see out of it.
Alexander Coccia (50:19):
Cozy.
We got so much to talk abouttoday.
We have like, okay, theseseasons, there's, there's just
more cards every single season.
So I feel like these discussionsgo longer and longer each time,
which is a great thing'cause Ilike talking to one of my best
friends.
But we're gonna get started withthe season pass card.
Of Aga Moto Cozy.
We both came in at Five Stars, apiece with Aga Moto, and there's
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some interesting things to talkabout here statistically.
And in terms of the pure vibesof Aga Moto, what are your
thoughts?
Cozy Snap (50:46):
Aga?
No, I I think, man, it's such afun card.
Like, it, it's such, it, it'sgot that going for, you know, we
just talked about infinityUltron on my side, right?
So it's like.
Were you talking about howthat's almost just like a fun
card and this one is fun, butcan work, you know, way more
consistent?
I like the card though.
I think five.
Did we rank at the highest ofthe month too?
Alexander Coccia (51:07):
Yes.
Both of us, or actually lastmonth, our rankings were
identical.
I can just read'em right now.
We had the exact same rankings.
Okay.
We did Amimoto, fire, hair StarBrand, Esan, Concho, ghost
Rider.
Where was our ordering?
Just off the top here, but, soyeah, we put Amimoto number one.
Cozy Snap (51:24):
Ah.
I think I like gag Moto man.
I think OG Moto has got, has gota, has got some, some chops to
it in the future as well.
What, what about you?
Alexander Coccia (51:35):
I think people
think he's better than he is.
I think that the I.
The different effects aredisproportionately, like they're
not nearly the same power.
The winds of tuum are wildlycracked.
It's the primary reason why youplay aga Moto.
Yeah, you hopely.
That's where his win rate comesfrom.
I think the temporalmanipulation drawn to his hand
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probably isn't good enough,despite the fact that it, it's
good in of itself.
And images of I icon, despitebeing good, takes a little bit
more setup and it's a little tooexpensive.
So.
I feel like it feels like a fourstar card, but it's actually
performing closer to a two and ahalf or a three star card.
'cause you're looking at a winrate that's been fluctuating
between 49 and 50% on any givenday.
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Cozy.
Cozy Snap (52:19):
Yeah, it's got a low
and even more.
It's su, I mean, it's prettypopular.
I, again, I think it is.
The Infinity Ultra morecompetitive version.
It's meant to be a fun card.
And I think when we saw it inactuality, I mean we, what we've
talked about this, I think thelast week, where it's just like
adding to the deck in general ina 12 card game is tough.
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Point blank.
Yeah.
And not only is there countersto that, but then you're, you're
really having to stall thingsout.
We think, I think we boththought it was gonna be a a bit
more of like just a good card, Ithink.
What do they call'em?
Value cards.
Like where you could just likeplug it in with other value
cards and then there you go.
But funny enough, like the Goodcards deck, obviously Iron
Patriot.
Made one again.
But those have become less andless as we've evolved through
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Snap'cause the Snap team isfocused on getting rid of those
more and more.
But yeah, you know, I'm gladthat they didn't just like
outright, you know, get rid ofwind of two or at least make it
way worse.
'cause there is that RG factor.
It's kind of snap conditions,but overall I think it'll adjust
better when it comes to how it'sgonna perform in the meta.
But yeah, it's, it's not a fivestar car.
Alexander Coccia (53:23):
Cozy.
You nailed it on the No, you hitthe nail on the head.
Right.
It's been so long since we'vesaid that.
'cause the top performing shellof Amoda runs a 54% win rate and
it runs King Eat Tree.
That's the only non-G good cardand the rest are just straight
up good cards, including galata,gwenpool, chs you know, copycat,
et cetera.
And it's like the dec dilutionis a huge component of what
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makes Aga Moto have a bit of adifficult time.
And also you don't know, youknow, what effect you're gonna
draw.
You don't know what they'replaying, so you can't really.
Consistently rely on AKA Moto.
And I found the five 13 power tobe significant, especially since
you draw into that.
But apparently statisticallyit's not quite performing.
Cozy Snap (54:03):
If this were to have
the, the spells go in the hand,
it's the best card in the game.
I mean, like, that's how big ofa difference there is.
Okay?
Maybe not the best card in thegame, but it's like the, the
level of value it goes up if itwere to add those spells right
to your hand.
It's just like night and day.
So anytime you dilute the deck,it's just tough.
And you know, hope hoping forbetter days for Omo.
Alexander Coccia (54:21):
Absolutely.
And I do think the card will agewell because it has a lot of
dials.
You have multiple physical cardsthat you can change, right?
And so there there's gonna beopportunities for'em to tweak
Akimoto.
I think the tricky part for itthough is do, I don't If they
buff it, I think people willlose their mic's.
They think they, it feels betterthan it really is.
I bet you seconders in a trickyspot.
Next up is Eson.
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Eson for us.
We came in pretty low.
We came in at threes.
Both of us gave it three stars.
It's running a 47% win rate at a10% popularity, which is quite
low.
And that's a 30 day average,infinite only.
One of the key challenges hereis that late in the kue
experimental stage.
It was realized and figured outthat the second and third stages
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of chu can be pulled by Eson.
And so now there's like, aswe're recording, that is only
beginning to get cooked.
Yeah.
So like, I want to put a littleasterisk here that Eson, if it
can be found to have a cook withConcho, it raises both of them.
'cause it's actually a reallyinsane interaction.
Cozy Snap (55:19):
Yeah.
I mean, yeah, you got the corvusclay to get the energy, so then
you've got it to be playedearly.
Like it's the perfect, it's theperfect thing to happen.
I think it's so clever and fun.
It's, I think we nailed it on Although, mainly like he, I think
he came out a little hotter thanwe thought he might, but then as
things have adjusted, we said itwas gonna be a very good ATRI
card and it was gonna be okay inramp and like, that's about
where it's settled.
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But to be fair, so many cardscome out.
It has the, the future ahead ofit.
I think it's a cool card.
I think it's a very fun card.
I think I would give it betterthan a three though, but not by
a lot.
Alexander Coccia (55:52):
No, it,
honestly, it probably is a
three.
I mean, we're looking at a 47%win rate right now, and it's
some top stats, so there's somevariability in that.
But also like the khor decks,which are gonna be focusing on
hand gen.
And they might want esan andEsan might be a good closer in a
deck like that.
Right.
'cause you're going, we beworking with a lot of created
cards.
Maybe a Victoria hand, Esan,Khor starts to see some play and
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then all of a sudden it's, it'sa relevant piece.
Right.
It's kind of sad that like theeffect.
I don't wanna say that like it'sran random enough that it can be
added to like in fit the altron.
Right?
But it's like, I wonder aboutlike how many hoops you gotta
jump through to make Esonlegitimately play.
Is it good enough just to playhim on turn six right in the con
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deck?
It seems like it might bebecause if you've discarded con
at least once, then he justpulls down the concho who then
pulls down someone else, whichis kind of interesting, but he
just feels like you're jumpedthrough a lot of hoops for a six
10 that might pull somethingdecent.
And
Cozy Snap (56:48):
rum is like settled
into his role now.
A bit more of what he is gonnabe, obviously like Lokey getting
changed, you know, perhaps somenew sparks and flames to it.
But yeah, we'll see how E Nissanadjusts, but there are cards
that can help it in the future.
Alexander Coccia (57:00):
Yeah,
absolutely.
And talking about cards thatcould help it in the future.
Sometimes all you need is alittle bit of buff and star
brand.
Okay.
Was actually like the card I wasmost excited for the entire
month because I was like soexcited to play Sour on again.
It's an archetype that I wassorely missing from the game and
Star brand.
I rated a four.
(57:20):
You also agreed, we both gave afours and it underperformed.
I remember our review, we wereboth kind of sad about it.
We, we were discussing it on theSnapchat and even when I was
testing it, I saw its potential,but it was awkward in the fact
that Saron and Star Brandandoccupied the same slot.
And so Star Brandand was beingused as a turn six closer,
where, you know, before you usedto do like a task master.
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NY MA now it was Star brand plussomething else.
So you're running Za in thatdeck and you're trying all this
different stuff.
It just, it created this reallyweird archetype that fell like a
shell of its former self.
And then as we have so predictedcozy.
Saron gets brought down to a twotwo, and suddenly the card
completely changes and it's Starbrand did not get Buff Cozy
(58:05):
Saron did.
The card went from like a what?
A 48% win rate It's currentlyrunning over the last, well, I
guess, few days since the patch,53.2% win rate, 53.2%.
That is a massive change becauseof Saron.
Cozy Snap (58:20):
Can you imagine if
taskmaster stayed the same too?
I mean that deck would be justflying.
I feel like, I mean it, it addsits own own identity now.
But yeah, I agree.
That was the main thing.
Just we talked about it withmove, how there's a lot of cars
and condition at that three costslot.
So Soar and being three was themain problem there.
Which just trying to set thingsup and now this just makes it
all the much easier'cause itaffects the hand on the deck and
it was just the perfect change,especially for Star brand within
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the month, for the month.
I mean that's like that youwould've thought they, you know,
I, I think they wanted to see.
How it did and then they woulddo it, you know, like we're
getting, sometimes we get pro,you know, proactive changes to a
card and then the new card comesout and we're like, oh, that's
why they did it.
And sometimes the new card comesout, then they do the OTA to
fix.
That was the case here and we'vealready talked about it.
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I mean so on is we'll see if iteven lasts'cause it's that good
at least right now.
So but yeah, star brand ends upunfortunately though coming, the
buff coming a little late.
'cause then people that now areloving the so on change.
You know, they'll have to waitfor Snapbacks.
Alexander Coccia (59:20):
I know that is
one of the, the challenges of,
of the buff happening as soon asthe card leaves the o the, the,
the collection track, thespotlight Cash is one might say
so.
Yeah, that's absolutely huge.
But it's also a very good noteof saying that like, sometimes
it's hard to evaluate cards in avacuum because Star brand
itself.
That's a huge swing in terms ofwin rate and it had nothing to
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do with Star brand.
Yeah, it was the archetype, thedecks being plated, the
supporting cards that gotchanged.
It's like trying to evaluateDevil Dinosaur for to come out.
Now, do you evaluate DevilDinosaur or are you evaluating
the Shield Archetype?
I.
And that's kind of the similarthing, what happened there.
So Star brand, we gave a fours,it did underperform that four
status, but it definitely feelslike it's back there now.
(01:00:04):
Now that Saron has been buffedand that Saron deck as of
recording by the way, 59% winrate on 1500 games, untapped
59%, and that's post infiniteaccording to the untapped most
recent patch, which is insane.
The next card, this is a cardthat goes by many names.
Forehand forehead.
(01:00:25):
Fire, hair, fire hand.
It's come to the point, cozy.
I see people call it fire handall the time and it doesn't, I
don't even blink.
It doesn't even phase me'causeher hand is on fire.
I gotta tell you the art, herhand's on fire, her hair looks
totally fine.
Fire hair, cozy.
We came in hot.
We both came in at fives.
We actually broke our rule.
We gave multiple fives here.
And we're looking at a card thatfrom release is running a 46%
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win rate.
Cozy.
I'm in pain looking at firehere.
Cozy Snap (01:00:53):
Yeah, but I also
don't care.
Ajax had a bad one.
What was it?
Misery had a bad it's becauseyou're cooking, you're playing
with fire.
That's what these mill deckslike to do.
That's where it is out a lot.
It took a little bit of time.
It took like.
A lot of fire to figure out whattruly sticks and, and obviously
that was some of the Thorsynergy we saw, you know,
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destroy actually likes it.
Even in Thanos, it's not doingbad.
So like, I think it is a carthat performs fine and it has
the world ahead of it because ofwhat it's done.
So I'm not, I'm not, I don'tgive a damn about the stats on
fire.
I think it's still a good card.
Alexander Coccia (01:01:28):
I was gonna
say the exact same thing.
This is not cope like I'm notcoping.
It's not like, oh, Alex cozyourselves, this car, high rating
and they're coping, whatever.
No, I think that if you rolledon that week, which was still an
insane week anyways, then yougot a car that's gonna age like
literal fine wine.
This is gonna be the cosier of,of like, of, of fine beverages.
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Like this card is going to eatso beautifully.
Oak Barrel aged.
This is gonna be, so you heardit here, man.
This car's gonna be an absolutebeauty.
And even just in the nextcoming, not this month, but
potentially the month after wegot some data, mines of like Kid
Omega and elixir and cars thatare gonna be directly
synergistic with this destroy acard coming in and et cetera.
So fire hair is gonna beimmediately getting some
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support.
In the next few months andalready you're starting to see
some cooks come out.
Now you're right, you called theThanos one.
The Thanos misery shell isreally interesting.
I thought it was really awesome.
It, it's very fun to play andfire hair has a definite role in
that deck.
It's a very good tech supportpiece there.
So anyways, I wouldn't worry toomuch if you got it because
you're gonna be happy you haveit because there's gonna come a
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point in time where you're gonnabe very glad the fire hair is in
your collection.
Going to the next card.
This is one of the more recentones here, and it's K Chew.
K Chew was one that we wereparticularly excited for.
The first of all, the design's.
Brilliant.
Let's be honest.
Design's brilliant, but cozy.
How did it land for you?
Okay,
Cozy Snap (01:02:51):
so I, you gave it a
three, right?
And the recent ratings, you gaveit a three.
I love ksu.
I think KSU is everything I wantin Marvel.
Snap.
I think it's fun.
I think it's now obviously the ENissan thing, you got that
cooking and stuff, but I thinkit did what I wanted it to do
with the Pinnable.
Discard brought that back alittle bit.
Got a little bit of the, the,the hella sizzle, I think is
just more of A-I-I-I-I, I likeit in the role that I thought it
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was gonna play.
It's a hella popular card.
It's crazy how popular Conchois.
Amongst, at least from what I'veseen.
I like it.
I think it's fine.
I think it fits the archetyperate.
I think it's a fun card toexperiment with and I just, damn
well think it's one of the moreenjoyable cards to play this
season, especially I.
Alexander Coccia (01:03:31):
Beautifully
well designed.
I think it's a sound of fun aswell.
Yeah.
I came in at three, you came inat four.
It's running a 49% win rate andthat's not great.
But also a lot of cookinghappening and it is sometimes
the most recent card, like wedon't have enough data on'cause
it is the one just that justreleased.
And I would expect this toimprove over time.
What I found very interesting,cozy mm-hmm.
(01:03:51):
Was at the top performing decks.
Four Concho are literallydependable.
Discard it.
Cozy Snap (01:03:57):
Yeah.
The no boards, there's
Alexander Coccia (01:03:59):
no Ironman in
them.
Cozy Snap (01:04:00):
The the win rates
through the roof.
I knew this would happen toremember, I was like, all the
cute stuff was gonna be like thetesting week.
People were gonna do IronmanSilver semi.
I knew it was gonna come down.
To discard doing what it doesbest.
Just good old, dependable,discard, doing its thing.
The hella win rate, I think isthe only thing hurting this
thing on the stat department.
I think if people just playeddependable, this thing would be
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like mid fifties, not mid maybe.
Like yeah.
'cause the dependable
Alexander Coccia (01:04:23):
version's
running a 56% win rate.
That's correct.
It's cube rates on the 0.23side, which is kind of on the
low side, but like it's, it isgood.
Like you can't argue it.
And I think the thing that, likeI realized.
Was, yes, I liked hitting SilverSamurai into Gore and stuff like
that.
Those stuff like fun, thosepopoffs were really nice.
It was awesome.
But like just bringing back likea 12 power choline wing that
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hits the scorn again, that thenhits, that gets hit by the
Dracula and it's like a 12 powerwhatever, like all that stuff
is, is just fine too.
You know what I mean?
Like getting a massive gambitcoming back for another swing
when you bring'em back.
All that stuff is just fine,because it's just pure stats.
And the thing I appreciatedabout Kaci was the.
The, the, the way the text waswritten was it goes into another
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location, so you could somewhatcontrol you 50 50, the location
by, well, if I play Concho, it'sgonna be going into those one,
one other two.
So you had this really balancedattack of power, so it was
legitimately 24 power spread.
It was never gonna fall intoyour own location.
So you had this element ofcontrol of where the power went,
which I appreciated.
Cozy Snap (01:05:26):
You gotta watch the,
the show, man.
It's worth your time.
I'm telling you.
It's, it's, it's a good one.
Alexander Coccia (01:05:31):
We're still
making our way through the the
Daredevil series, sir.
Cozy Snap (01:05:34):
And it's gonna be, I
know I 2027 is when you're gonna
be done with that, but I do,when, when 2028 hits, you should
definitely watch it.
Alexander Coccia (01:05:41):
So, while I
was streaming, I mentioned this.
So one of my absolute favorite,favorite comics that I
absolutely love is the onlymyself left to conquer Kang
series.
It's like the reason why I loveKang.
If you have not read those, youhave to cozy.
They are awesome.
Cozy Snap (01:05:57):
Awesome.
I need to, and in
Alexander Coccia (01:05:58):
them.
I don't mean this to be aspoiler.
It's a very minor thing and I, Ihope I'm not spoiling anything
for anybody but in them moonnight's there except moon night
and I said this on street, I waslike, you're wrong, whatever.
And then we got fact checked.
I was right.
Vindicated Moon Knight was voaRensselaer.
And I was like, Hmm, that waskind of cool in the comics, she
was r and I mean, Kang tends tofind R everywhere, and I think
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that's one of the challenges ofthe character.
Right.
But but I, I, I am reallyinterested in seeing the moon
night and maybe, maybe it's thenext one we go through.
Is it, is it similar toDaredevil?
Like is it a little moregrounded down to earth or is it
a little more.
Sci-fi?
Cozy Snap (01:06:33):
Both.
I, I think it's a solo series,which is nice.
And I think that you, I thinkyour wife will enjoy it if she
likes I don't know what shewatched.
I know like she's like a love isblind, kinda, but if she likes
Daredevil as she, I think shewould like this.
Yeah.
Alexander Coccia (01:06:46):
Okay.
That's good to know.
Cozy and Tomo Discard the firstGhost rider.
This card is the one that wasobviously free.
You in high voltage.
If you were free to play, youunlocked it like approximately
on the Tuesday, right?
Because it came, it was soweird.
They released the high voltageon the Friday, which was such a
strange day to release it on.
And then by Tuesday you almosthad an unlock for ksu.
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I was like one or two refreshesaway.
This card's not performing good.
Cozy.
This card died
Cozy Snap (01:07:13):
when the goblin
theory died with it.
The negative I know edition.
The goblin
Alexander Coccia (01:07:17):
theory, that's
like the book.
The book Cozy ISS writing.
Cozy Snap (01:07:21):
Yeah, dude, this car
sucks.
I mean, it just doesn't evenmake the final cut.
Unfortunately.
Now will it have a time?
I don't know.
It's got potentially texts thatcould age fine, but I don't
think I just, it's, it's toohyper competitive, man.
I think, I think it's like,because you discard the, like
it's got hits that can work offof, but I think it needs a
higher power base to even get itworth the risk of running it
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over just certified value.
Alexander Coccia (01:07:48):
It's like it
feels overcooked.
Yeah.
Like the text is like needlesslycomplex.
It's like we don't, what are weeven doing at this point?
Yeah, and you're right, there'salready a 44% win rate man.
Like that is awful.
That's so bad.
It's so bad.
And this was a card, was it nottwo six before.
Yeah.
And they brought it down to twofive.
It kind of breaks the wholetheory of like, maybe they're,
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they're always like, you know.
Buffing the cards that arebroken or the bad cards.
I don't know.
They nerfed this card and itcame out Dog water.
So that kind of breaks that up alittle bit.
But I mean, at the end of theday, cozy, what would you say to
our final rankings of AnimotoFire, hair star brand, Esan
Concho, ghost Rider?
Cozy Snap (01:08:26):
Who do we have as?
Who do you have as one?
Alexander Coccia (01:08:28):
You know what?
I am willing to, it feels like,it feels like Aga Moto is near
one.
I think it's, but I bet you withthe change to Sauron Star
brand's probably gonna end upbeing the best.
Cozy Snap (01:08:38):
I think I'm gonna go
Alto one.
Alexander Coccia (01:08:40):
Yeah.
Yeah, I do.
At the end of the day, I thinkGhost Rider being at the
bottom's.
Correct.
I think KSU probably needs toslide up.
I don't know man, I, I like whenwe talk about all these cards,
they all have, I feel like theyhave bright features like Emoto
I feel is good.
Fire hair has a great futureStar brand is great.
Now that the Buff happened, EsanI think is very combo centric
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and still has potential K shoe.
I think we're still figuring itout, like these are all cards
that are still good except forRider.
This is is a tough one to rank.
Cozy Snap (01:09:06):
Yeah.
Yeah.
This is a tough one to rank.
I would've concho.
It is like, can't you in the, inthe role that he's played, I
like better than, than a lot ofthese firebrand firebrand fire.
There's another, there's anothername, there's another name for
it.
Fire hand, fire hair has justgreat potential in the future.
So I'm gonna have that one goclose to the top as well.
It, you're right, man.
(01:09:27):
I think this is one of thetougher ones to rank just
because of how they all playtheir roles in the decks that
they're in.
Alexander Coccia (01:09:32):
Absolutely.
And cozy.
We gotta take a moment here totalk about the new card
acquisition model.
Of Marvel Snap, and that is theSNAP packs cozy.
It's a major upgrade to the cardacquisition model.
This has been something that'sbeen a pain point for the
longest time for players and I'mso happy that this Marvel SNAP
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team at second dinner haslegitimately taken a lot of
feedback from the community andrecognized that the card
acquisition model was somethingthat had to be improved, not
only for the future health ofthe game.
But to potentially bring someplayers back.
We have catchup mechanicsinvolved.
We have a new form of kind ofyou know, card release schedule
and et cetera.
And let's just quickly gothrough a couple of the main
(01:10:14):
points here.
Now, first of all, when is thisgonna be coming out?
They're aiming for April 29th orJune 3rd.
Now what you'll note is thatthose are like months separated,
right?
Like those are, it's either themost recent patch coming or the
patch after that.
And that's fine.
Like honestly, if they are goingto be releasing on June 3rd, if
they need the extra time torefine some of the bugs, which
man, there are so many bugs inSnap right now.
(01:10:35):
I don't know what's going on.
Take the time, get it right.
That's no problem.
You know, and that's all good.
But let's talk about some of thequick overview stuff here.
I'm gonna read this directlyfrom the blog.
Okay.
And I'll also provide a link.
To the blog down in thedescription below, but right off
the top here there's gonna be adedicated card shop where you'll
find the card packs.
Each card pack will guaranteeone unknown card with no
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duplicates and have due bonusrewards.
The bonus rewards can beadditional cards, it can be
variants, cosmetics, orcurrencies like tokens,
boosters, or credits.
It sounds like there's gonna beodds depending on it, so it's
like kinda like a grab bag.
Of different goodies.
You get one unowned card forsure, and then you know, a
percentage chance of of goodies,variants and stuff like that.
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You're gonna have spotlightcards and rotatable pinnable
cards just like you have today.
So I guess there's gonna be likea card you can pin.
If you wanna spend tokens on itdirectly, the login bonuses will
now be tokens, not credits.
Now I don't know if that'll bespecific, like that makes it
sound to me like they're takingthe credits out.
They're adding the tokens in.
It won't be like, if you won'thave the option of both.
(01:11:43):
It's not both.
Get tokens.
Cozy Snap (01:11:44):
Yeah.
Yeah.
Alexander Coccia (01:11:45):
Then there's
gonna have token packs where you
can purchase tokens right fromthe shop using gold.
And I think the idea of this newsystem cozy, as they did mention
that they want you know,returning players who have
missed multiple seasons to havean opportunity to catch up and
we'll discuss the individualpacks in a second.
New players will be able to, youknow, use packs to.
Pick up on cars that they'retrying to isolate to build
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their, the decks they're tryingto build.
And then obviously the veteranplayers will be able to you
know, not waste rewards or theirprogress stuff by getting dupes
and stuff like that, which wasabsolutely huge.
With regards to each of theindividual packs you have the
new series five pack, which isgonna include all the series fee
five cards from the currentseason.
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One prior season.
So I, the way I read that, andagain, we're short on some
details, like this is kind oflike an overview blog.
We don't have the details yet.
That sounds like you have achance to roll whatever's in
this current season, plus theprior season.
Yeah.
And that's it.
What it sounds
Cozy Snap (01:12:41):
like.
Yeah.
Alexander Coccia (01:12:42):
And then new
series four packs, which
includes all series four cardsfrom the current and previous
two seasons.
That makes it sound like theymight be releasing more series
four cards.
In the future, which is worthnoting, and also keeps into
account two prior seasons.
And then finally you'll have thecollector's packs, which will
have series three, four, andfive cards.
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And these will be the oldercards that don't meet the
metrics of the prior two packs.
They're designed for catching upand they'll have cards that are
unique.
Not include the cards from theupper two packs.
For the, like for instance, theseries five will be the prior to
the prior month.
The series four will be theprior two months.
If that sounded confusing atall.
That's because there's a lot toit, cozy.
(01:13:25):
What are your thoughts?
Cozy Snap (01:13:26):
Yeah, first of all, I
wanna shout out a Reddit user.
Their name is Zero Skills Samis.
First of all, great melee name.
I'm gonna get that.
Alex, you need to put thisgraphic up the entire time you
were talking there.
Hopefully you'll see this inpost editing guys,'cause this
graphic, I think at least givesyou like a way to visualize what
we're talking about here.
And does a great job just likeconverting like literally tokens
(01:13:49):
to spotlight keys right now.
What is gonna fall in whichpack?
I the great step in the like,like this is cool.
There's a lot of, there's somuch to break down here, right?
Like, you know, first of all,there's so many friends I had in
the past two years that justwanted to pick up snap and throw
a bunch of money at it and getthe cards.
It's like they couldn't do thatright.
Without weird stuff going on.
So like, that opens up some ofthis.
I will say like, started withthe only con in traditional
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secondary fashions.
Like they had to make this asconfusing as possible.
Like, I just wish, I wish justlike.
I thi this was one of the fewthings, like sometimes they give
creators stuff in advance to seeand we like get to see it a
couple days early or whatever.
They didn't give us that, likethey just said it was coming,
you know, get ready for it.
And I wish they would've,'causethen it would've given us time
(01:14:31):
to like understand better andthen make, you know, content on
it to be their marketers forthem or whatever like we've done
in the past.
So I do that, that, you know,that's a bummer.
'cause I do wish, you know,there was a bit more
clarification on it and I wishthere was pricing on.
Specific pricing that is likesuch a key detail, such a, just
like a, of course, protect yourass detail that they have in
(01:14:52):
there, you know, that they don'twant to have in it.
'cause it would help us reallynail down the specifics.
And I think it's what's holdingback people going cuckoo for
Coco puffs.
I think if they had the specificpricing and we could do the
math, we'd be like, oh yeah.
Right.
But it's still really cool andfascinating and exciting
direction.
The no dupes thing is a hugewin.
Not playing the freakingroulette wheel that is the
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spotlight keys all the time iscool.
They're releasing way more newcards though, so there's gonna
be like, there's just, there'sjust a lot to take in from that
blog post.
And this, that photo that youhave up.
Alexander Coccia (01:15:24):
I think that
there's a couple things worth
talking about.
The first thing is obviouslyeverything hinges on the cost,
right?
They're changing it so thatinstead of spotlight caches or
spotlight keys, sorry, you'regonna be getting 3000 tokens.
So tokens are gonna be like thecore currency of the experience.
If you're not unlocking enoughtokens, even through the
collector's track, then suddenlythe system does not work, right?
(01:15:46):
So that's number one.
The cost is gonna be veryimportant.
I feel like they didn't includethe cost because I think, Hey,
listen, I probably done thesame.
Send this out, get the feeler,see what people say.
I don't think they know what thecost is yet.
Yeah, I think they're trying todecide what the cost is yet, and
so as a result, everythinghinges on the cost.
That is the most obvious thing.
(01:16:06):
If it's set to be too expensive,then we're right up the creek
again.
They can't miss that, right?
There's no way they have tostart at a reasonable price that
allows people to, to progress.
And the second thing, and thisis what makes me actually
nervous, cozy, and you kind ofdid hint at it, is they did hint
in their messaging that they'replanning on releasing more
cards.
And I think that's part of theseries four discussion that they
(01:16:28):
said, like the series, likethey're clearly gonna be
releasing series four cards.
However, if they're releasingmore cards, does that just
reinstitute the, the hamsterwheel of.
Oh, well you still gotta spend afortune to get all the stuff.
Like I understand getting allthis stuff is not necessarily
supposed to be feasible, free toplay.
Like I think that's like themoney hook, that's the business
side of it.
(01:16:48):
But if we want cat cardiac to beimproved.
Hopefully the targeting'simproved.
Hopefully the manner at whichyou're able to collect the
tokens and translate those intocards that you want, getting rid
of the gotcha mechanics isgreat, but if you're getting
more cards, but there's justmore cards to get and there's
still holes in your collectionall the time, are we just kind
of looping back to plan a again?
(01:17:10):
You know what I mean?
Cozy Snap (01:17:11):
Yeah.
Right.
Because then you're still likehoping to get, you know, if
there's 10 Dooo cards, you wantAlga Moto.
It's like, you know, how is thatgonna work?
I wanna say I, I'm actuallythoroughly like, I don't, I.
I don't think I, we've givenenough like this is gonna be
cool.
Like I'm excited for this, forthe game massively.
And I think this is probablygonna be a big dubs.
I, I'm putting it out there.
(01:17:31):
We've had our pess, you know,pessimist behaviors with some
stuff.
I think this is cool.
Step in the right direction.
It's not spotlight keys.
Thank God.
You know, you got all that goingfor it.
You can target cards.
You're not gonna have the es.
Hell yeah.
The custom snap.
Stuff is insanely cool.
So if you wanna be a destroyedplayer in the future, it looks
like they're gonna be doing likea destroyed kind of custom deck
(01:17:51):
potentially, or a even contentcreator stuff, which is awesome.
In fact, that was mentioned assomething that they might wanna
do a long time ago.
So it's cool to see that evencoming into existence now.
All that's such a freaking dub.
It just comes down to thenumbers.
Daily login tokens.
What does that look like?
What is that?
How many times do you have tolog in, open up a pack to get a
free card?
I think that makes a lot ofsense.
(01:18:12):
I, this is their shot.
They're not gonna get anotherone.
They're not period point blank.
If people come back for this,which they will, which is a dub,
they can't miss on it, right?
Because they're, they're notgonna be like, you know, okay,
hold on.
Card monetization 4.0.
'cause this is like 3.0 at thispoint, right?
And so I, I think they'recrunching the numbers still, but
(01:18:33):
there is some, I I, I wish wehad a better look into those
numbers, but that's why, dude,this isn't coming out till like.
January, whatever, not January,pretty much June.
Right.
I mean that gives'em a lot ofleeway.
Alexander Coccia (01:18:46):
They did
mention that the featured weekly
cards are gonna be lessexpensive than the current six
k.
Yeah.
Which would be, which wouldindicate that like the new
release that you're after isgonna be less expensive and
therefore it's gonna be easierto keep up with some of the, the
cars.
It's just a question of how manycars are they actually releasing
at any given time.
Like, I don't know.
But you're right.
This is an absolutely huge win.
(01:19:06):
And also.
They have to knock it outta thepark because Marvel snap's
numbers have been going down.
But don't kid yourself, like ifyou're one of those pessimistic
self-loathing like Marvel SNAPplayers, I think this game's
dying.
You're the only one propping itup.
I.
There's tons of people that playthis game.
Tons.
It's still one of the mostsuccessful you know, collectible
car games on the app stores.
There's a massive, massivecasual audience.
(01:19:28):
There's a massive activeaudience, hardcore audience.
There's tons of people playingthis game, and if they can, one
of the main problems is, is thatwith Marvel Snap, there is this
idea.
This common perception that thegame is insanely expensive, the
progression's hostile to playersand the monetization sucks.
The card acquisition sucks.
If they can change that, allowthe word of mouth to kind of
(01:19:52):
move and prosper.
Allow people who are a littlebehind or took a little break,
allow them an opportunity tocatch up.
Suck them in with crazy bundlesof like, yo.
Like, come back and play somesnap.
We'll give you 12,000.
I don't care.
Yeah, put a number on, a massiveamount of to, you're gonna get
to open three free packs ofseries five.
I don't care.
(01:20:12):
Get people back in the door.
Make the system work.
Make them love the game again.
'cause everyone agrees it's thebest playing CCG on the planet.
It's everything else that turnsthem away.
Don't make this, turn them away.
Cozy Snap (01:20:25):
I think I, I, I, I
have faith that they won't, I
do.
There's things that don't havefaith in them in, and this one I
do though.
I think that they're gonna dogreat here.
That's the hope.
You know, wish we had thenumbers.
I think, I think the math iskeep your keys.
It just depends on the numbers,but it's like, keep your keys.
'cause you get to target a card,a key's not what, 3000 tokens.
And so you get that every ahundred something levels.
(01:20:45):
So.
We're gonna have to like reallymap it out.
It's like getting a lot ofinformation without getting all
the specifics.
And some of those specifics arepretty important, so we're gonna
have to hold out for that.
But in general, no dupespre-selected stuff and just
more, you know, autonomy to playwhat you wanna play is a, is a
big dubs, especially in the gamelike Snap.
Alexander Coccia (01:21:04):
So, it's funny
you say this because we're gonna
have to revisit this obviouslyonce we get the additional
information, probably closer tothe release.
Mm-hmm.
But for years they've said, Hey.
We hear you.
That was, it is been the memefor a long time.
We hear you.
Well finally they actuallylistened.
Yeah.
And I, listen, I'm not a gamedev, but I know that developing
games is hard and this type ofstuff took, takes a lot of work
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and it takes a lot of testing.
And it's also difficult from abusiness perspective for them
'cause like they have to get thenumbers right.
'cause then they make it toocheap.
Ya ain't gonna be able to makeit more expensive without
looking like an absolute clown.
Right?
So you can always, you canalways start a little high and
bring it down low.
So I think what they're tryingto figure out is what is the
right number?
But also I think they're alsoincentivized to make sure they
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do get it right.
If they whiff on this cozy,they're, they're, they're
putting the nail in their owncoffin.
They're literally drilling theircaskets shut from the inside
because they need to get thisright and only them can get it.
Right.
Right.
And so, I do have faith, likeyou said, this is a team that's
incredibly talented.
Like the game speaks for itself.
They just, we just need to bebringing people back into the
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ecosystem.
Cozy Snap (01:22:11):
Yeah.
One last note I'll say too islike, them releasing more cars
can be a little scary for a lotof reasons.
Yeah.
But I have a lot of faith inGlen, in the balance team that
it won't be a lot of justfodder.
Like, man, that guy cares deeplyabout.
This game and they even, I meanthey showed that through OTA, so
like a lot of people are likedooming it a bit about like, oh
my gosh, that there's likethree, you know, horrible cards
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and then you went to one.
I just feel like, like wehaven't had that in Snap right
now, if that's what it turnsinto.
Then Uncle Ben.
Uncle Ben.
Yeah.
Wow.
That was our first like truelike meme card.
Pretty much landmine.
Yeah.
But outside of that, I guess wedon't get a lot of fodder cards.
And that's why they decided twoyears to release a bin.
Like, you know what I mean?
It's like they knew.
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And so I, I have big faith in itthat if anything, it's just
gonna like, make it even morefun.
'cause you have way more cardsto work with.
Archetypes to make decks to popoff.
You could target the ones youwant.
I don't think it, it, it shouldbe less about having all the
cards and more about now playingwhat you wanna play.
So I, there's just a lot of.
Good.
That can happen from this, and Ithink it is, man.
I'm excited.
Alexander Coccia (01:23:14):
The only thing
is though, and I'll tell you, is
that releasing more cards than aMarvel Snap, like that's not a
problem.
The game has.
I think the card cadence and therelease schedule is actually
pretty good.
I don't think releasing a bunchof series four cards is actually
necessarily beneficial to thegame.
If anything, sometimes I wonderabout this cozy.
This game doesn't really giveits decks time to breathe.
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Like sometimes I almost wish wehad a week where nothing got
released and I got to just playlike classic surfer and I didn't
have to worry about like all themetas changing again.
Like let me just play my surfer,dammit.
And so there's enough happeningand the game does feel like it's
shifting enough.
Even the OTAs and the patches,like the game and the meta is
constantly shifting.
I don't think having toincorporate and release more
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cards was actually a solution weneeded.
We need to fix the cardacquisition.
Just don't, don't turn it into ahamster wheel by releasing all
these series four fodder cardsthat end up filling the the,
the, the packs with trash.
But then again, the other packsare gonna be only series five,
which will guarantee non-dues.
So if you don't want the fodder,you just don't buy those, those
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packs.
Right.
I guess that's the plan, right?
Cozy Snap (01:24:20):
Yeah.
I mean, I guess, yeah, it.
Like this is gonna be a bigoverhaul to the game and the UI
and the way it works.
And the, our weekly schedule,the Snapchat even like, it's
gonna affect like the whole gamein its entirety.
So we're gonna have to see howthis kind of huddle like ends up
and hopefully we continue to getmore and more information as we
get closer.
Not just like hold out till therelease date.
Alexander Coccia (01:24:43):
Absolutely and
cozy.
I think that's gonna bring us toour Snapchat mailbag there.
And again, we'll revisit thisconversation when we get more
information regarding pricingand stuff like that.
But for the Snapchat mailbag,sir, we got a couple questions
that I thought were absolutelyhilarious, and we start with one
from Kdu 17, which said, Hey,fellas, serious question for
you.
(01:25:04):
Do you think Wonger and SHSwould get longers?
Cozy Snap (01:25:07):
I hate you and
Alexander Coccia (01:25:08):
I hate him.
First of all, canonically.
They do get along.
Have you not seen Wonger in?
Come on man.
Wonger is Iners the movie Sean.
Cheese in it.
Come on man.
Cozy Snap (01:25:19):
I'll never forget the
comment I got on one of mine is
like when, when you were talkingabout G Man for like 20 minutes
and I had a commented like ittook him the whole episode.
Figure out who GM A was.
But yes won.
Ger and gers, man, if I had mywindow open, people would be
like, what is this guy talkingabout for a living?
You know?
But great.
It was an, it is a greatquestion.
Alexander Coccia (01:25:41):
That's a great
question.
Yeah.
But for the recorders and wongerdo get alongs, most certainly.
If you have not seen Shachi,it's actually one of the
absolute best movies in the mc.
How good is Shachi?
Honestly,
Cozy Snap (01:25:52):
it is.
It's really good.
I, I always say, I think itstarts out as a 10 out of 10.
It ends up like a seven out of10, but it's really good.
Like the ending's a littlecrazy, but it's a really good
movie.
It's probably the strongest.
In the new ones that have beenout.
Alexander Coccia (01:26:04):
Yeah.
My, for obviously a lot ofpeople talk about the bus scene.
I like the scene when he is likerunning through that apartment
building.
He's fighting like his formersensei.
I, I thought.
Cozy Snap (01:26:13):
Anyways,
Alexander Coccia (01:26:13):
that whole
movie's awesome.
I
Cozy Snap (01:26:15):
absolutely don't.
It reminded me of rush hour.
Did you ever watch those growingup?
Jack Shannon?
It was like
Alexander Coccia (01:26:18):
Chris Tucker.
Cozy Snap (01:26:19):
Yeah.
Yeah.
Man, man, you're bringing meback in time, dude.
I remember Chris Tucker rushshower's in.
An incredible movie, movies one,two, and three.
Fantastic.
Jackie Chen.
That's right.
There's like tons of them.
It, it, it reminded me a bit ofthat, like, just like the, the
stunt coordinations and likewhen they're on the, the, the
scaffolding and stuff, like allof it was just like really
reminiscent of that.
Alexander Coccia (01:26:40):
It's like, you
know what, that whole era of
movies you had like rush hour,you had like Lethal Weapon a
filter fish, right?
Yeah.
Cozy Snap (01:26:46):
Oh yeah.
For sure.
Alexander Coccia (01:26:48):
Dude, it is
too
Cozy Snap (01:26:49):
good.
Too good.
Alexander Coccia (01:26:50):
Question
number two comes from averaged
data.
Enjoyer.
I'm glad you enjoy data, sir.
Marvel Snap has so many greatdetails, like the logo of the
cards, names that even Cozy usesthem in his rivals videos.
What are those details in Snapthat you like the most?
For the person who wrote it in,they said that they like the
animation of misery's tentacles.
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When you place the card, it's souncomfortable and it fits the
card.
Well,
Cozy Snap (01:27:15):
I think I've done a
lot of adverts.
And one thing a lot of advertslove for you to say is the art
style in their game.
And, and the it's breath, it islike the same line.
And most of the time it's like,I say it anyway'cause I agree.
It's like, oh, it's pretty cool.
But I've never had a game liveup to, I think Marvel Snap.
(01:27:36):
But it lacks in marketing.
Sorry.
But what it lacks there, itjust.
Dominates in its art style andlike, feel like it, they, it's
just so perfectly done that Idon't think anything has matched
that.
It, it's every little bit aboutthe locations and the subtle
animations and the cardanimations, the art, the
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variance like that is justunmatched.
Alexander Coccia (01:28:01):
When you play
other games or when I play other
games, I find myself noticingthat the art is not as
responsive.
Like even small things like, ohbuddy, you hover, shocker.
And that effect is so good.
I know you've probably notplayed shocker the longest time.
It's awesome.
Absolutely awesome effect.
And even like the big bangerones, like the Galactus
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animations and the high Evos andthe even the Thanos are is
pretty cool.
One thing I will say that kindof came to my mind with this
question was, you know, what's adetail that's like missed
massively?
And I can't believe, I neverthought of it till like I saw
this question.
Card backs are not animated.
Those card backs should beanimated, like honestly, like
second dinner.
If you ever have an opportunityto go back and animate the card
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backs, like do it, I don't knowhow much work goes into it, but
it's one card back.
It looks like it's way more workto animate every single variant
in the game.
Whoever's doing that, it lookslike they have this unbelievable
treadmill of work in front ofthem.
The card backs can't be thatmuch harder.
Why aren't the card backsanimated, man?
Cozy Snap (01:29:02):
Doesn't it make
perfect sense?
Yeah, it does.
I think agree that, and like we,we've already got the Game Boy
thing a little bit, you know, socombining those two, it's like,
man, it's just a thing ofbeauty.
Alexander Coccia (01:29:11):
Our next
question comes from Dark Angel.
It reads, Hey Alex, if you'relooking to get into another
Marvel TV show with some morestreet level heroes, definitely
watch the first season ofJessica Jones.
The character is great, but thevillain is just amazing,
especially if you or your wifeis a fan of David Tenets run in
Dr.
Who.
I have no idea who David Tensis, but have you seen Yes,
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Jessica Jones?
Cozy Snap (01:29:33):
Yeah, it's fantastic.
There.
There are so many things you'vemissed that I would put above
that, but the first season ofJessica Jones was amazing.
Like really good.
Okay,
Alexander Coccia (01:29:42):
man.
Listen, we, we just finishedseason one of Daredevil.
We're starting season two.
We're in like the Punisher phaseof season two right now.
Ooh.
And like, it's pretty cool.
It's also like way more violentthan I expected.
I'm like, this was not.
This ain't your your dad'sMarvel show.
No, I'm glad the kids weren'twatching that.
Like I'm like, whoa, bud.
Like, yeah, it's kind of crazy.
(01:30:04):
So we're working our waythrough.
But you know what, as I said,dude, this is amazing.
My wife's actually watching youwith me.
I'm not forcing her.
She's enjoying it.
You guys called it.
And the last question of the daycomes from Ed five and it reads,
I love the Snapchat.
Are there cards you wish werebetter based on being more
powerful in the comics than theyare in Snap?
A good example, in their opinionis the Fantastic Four.
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I'm really hoping that we canget a new version of the
Fantastic Four in Snap as thecurrent ones are lacking
compared to their comic strengthand power.
Who comes to mind for you?
Cozy.
There's an easy one for me, it'sKang Kang.
It's Kang like.
Come on.
Like that's the obvious layupanswer.
Kang is like I just finishedsaying that.
One of my favorite comics ever.
Is Kang only myself left toconquer and he is garbage in
(01:30:49):
style.
I cope, I play Kang.
If people are like, buddy, he'scoping, I am coping.
Damnit like, just get, give thisguy something.
Cozy Snap (01:30:55):
Yeah, it is gotta be
Kang Scarlet Witch too is my
number two.
I think Scarlet Witch couldalways, always be way, way, way
better.
And just like regular ogstrange, it's criminal help.
Like useless give his sorry asseffect to somebody else.
Like, it's fine, it does itsjob.
But like I wanted, I, I wantstrange to have like such more
meaningful role in Snap.
I.
Alexander Coccia (01:31:15):
What?
You know what Scarlet Witchshould do?
It should be Ccy, except itchanges every card on the
opponent's side, every card onyour side and every location.
Oh my God.
Well, you don't like that.
I still
Cozy Snap (01:31:27):
love the banish.
You get locations in your hand,you get two of'em, random ones,
you can play'em, and they banishand they turn it into the
location.
Alexander Coccia (01:31:33):
It's actually
a nice idea too.
Yes.
I'm bad.
There's so many ideas.
Cozy.
Listen, we have left a lot onthe plate for second dinner.
Get the card acquisition right.
We're excited for snap packs,animate the card backs and we'll
see you on the next one.
Cozy Snap (01:31:46):
And until the next
one guys, happy, snapping.