New X-Men Season | Ranking Every New Card In May | April Cards In Review | The Snap Chat Ep. 131 - The Snap Chat: Marvel Snap Podcast

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Cozy Snap (00:00):
What's going on guys?

(00:00):
And welcome back to anotherepisode of the Snapchat.
We have a brand new season inMay and we have potentially the
most cards we've ever gotten ina brand new season.
The Snap packs are here.
We are here.
And as always, I'm joined by theone and only Mr.
Alex cia.
How you doing today, buddy?
How is your may starting out andhappy recording date here?
Star Wars Day.
May the fourth be with you.

Alexander Coccia (00:22):
Thank you sir.
May the fourth be with youalways.
Yeah.
It's actually a great day to bea Marvel Snap player.
We got a new set of kind of likeacquisition system that I know a
lot of people have been engagingwith, still early to see how
it's truly gonna run.
Right.
But I think a lot of people werelike hoarding tokens for the
drop and then a lot of peoplegot, Hey, like I got collection
complete.
Like,'cause I was hoardingtokens and then I used the
snapbacks to good effect.

(00:42):
That's great.
It sounds like the acquisitionis improved.
The real question's gonna be iswhether or not it's enough.
For those returning players whocame back and then they're like,
oh.
This still isn't good enough forme.
You know what I mean?
So we need to see where that,where it falls ultimately.

Cozy Snap (00:56):
I'm glad you're bringing up the Snap packs
first,'cause Yeah, we don't haveit on any of our topics, but I
think it's a great place tostart.
I think, you know, first of all,they're great at launching
things, like right after we getour episodes released, so like
we released last week's episodeand they're like, by the way,
three brand new cars, here wego.
Whoa.
And it came outta nowhere.
And so move got obviously amassive upgrade this last week.
We're gonna be talking aboutthat over on your side.

(01:16):
But first of all, I have to saythe surprise factor of Snap
packs, the extra goodies thatyou get kind of the, the
potential role to get multiplecars.
That was definitely like Oh wow.
Kind of cool.
Shocking, like.
You know, wasn't expecting thatas much.
I think that was a nice bonus.
And the whole thing feels prettygood.
What I'm curious about though islike you skip, let's say this
week, all right?
And you go to next week, it'slike, how is this gonna feel as

(01:38):
you start skipping cards and,and you know, with spotlights
you knew you could get one ofthree, now it could be one of x,
how many, right?
And then, you know, whateverhappens now the cool thing about
that is you're almost alwaysgetting like a newer card that's
gonna do something, you know,you know, potentially pretty
well.
But we're gonna have to see howthat works out for you, you
know?

No.
Absolutely.
And like the problem is, is likewe joked about in the past with
the Spotlight Cash system, youhad landmines that were baked
into the spotlight cash.
So if, if a card was really goodor you almost could anticipate a
card being good based on how badthe cash was.
Yeah.
'cause they're like, oh, that'sfair.
You know, this card looks likeit's gonna be a banger, so
they're gonna put in absolutefilth with it.
Oh look, it's another nullvariant.
You know what I mean?

(02:18):
It's like, and and then whenthere's a bad card, they just
filled it with like, oh look,it's Gladiator and Loki, or
something.
Cool.
Right.
So now it's the same issue,whereas if you're someone who's
not collection complete, yes,they've kind of made it so that
like there's segments of packsyou can target cards with, but
there's still landmines inthere, right?
And you might have a seasonalpractice by the, if you don't

(02:38):
want,

Cozy Snap (02:39):
were you collection complete or did you have to get
any like series four?

I've always been

Cozy Snap (02:43):
collection

Complete.
Yeah.
I came very close to not beingcollection complete with King
Eat Tree.
And then you were like, are youseriously not gonna, you called
me out on the Snapchat,remember?
Then I'm like, fine, Cozy, I'llgrind it,

Cozy Snap (02:52):
dude.
I think so.
I wanna say the UI is good, youknow, I'll give'em credit there.
I think everything looks, youknow, polished there.
They gave a free card, you know,we were hoping for that as well.
It took a second to get thetokens, but they, they ended up
getting that rectified so.
Free card, we said they shouldlaunch with something.
You know, that's kind of nicetoo, if you're coming back to
the game.
It's a little wonky.
But I actually like that theyget, they gave tokens over the

(03:13):
new card that they were gonnado.
They were gonna give like aseries five pack, but they did
tokens.
And then that way, if you comeback to the game, you have a, at
least a choice where you wannaspin those, right.
So that's nice, you know, but asyou said, time will tell.
We have to see how this thingkind of bakes.
But it seems on the surface likeit, it's definitely a win.

Yeah, it is definitely a win.
But now that it's releasedyou've talked about this in the
past, there's only so many manhours that you have to build out
content for this game.
Now that the Snap hacks aregone, we need to start seeing
improvements on some otherstuff, right?
First of all, game like gamebugs need to be squashed.
Okay?
We need to get rid of the goldtickets outta the.
Caches.
They're garbage.
They're useless, awful.
No one wants them.

(03:50):
Absolutely awful.
Completely brutal.
Brutal, brutal.
I would say you need to changethe up the fast upgrade system
to not eat people's boosters.
If you're gonna keep boosters aspart of the overall economy,
like there's a point we need todo an airing of grievances at
some point.
But now that this is done, guys.
Draft mode, other stuff, get itgoing.
Let's go.
Yeah, a little q We have moretime, more, more energy.
Let's get it.

Cozy Snap (04:08):
Little q quality of life update would be nice, man.
I would give them half thecaches I have just to open them
all at once.
I just take half of them.
I don't even want them.
Just can I just open'em all atthe same time?
Like, that's, that's, that's myhope.
Prayer at least it opened thisspotlight, like ease for you and
it gave you tokens.
But yeah, time will tell.
We'll see how that all works outas we move forward in Marvel,
Snap, and, how would you saythey did on the marketing push?

(04:29):
I didn't see as much as I washoping to see, but they, they,
you know, they, they did some,

yeah, I'm not behind that.
I don't think they did enough.
I was expecting more and alsoeven the 4,000 tokens or
whatever they gave, it was okay.
Not insignificant, but like I.
I don't think a player whoselapse looks at that and is like,
oh, I gotta come back.
Yeah.
Because remember you have theimpression of 4,000 tokens is
almost nothing in the grandscheme of things for them.
And they're lapsed for fourmonths.
Like what's four grand gonna do?

(04:54):
Like it's gonna do nothing.
Well wait, I got a couple seriesfour cards.
It's like not even, you can'teven get multiple series four
cards with that.
Really The new ones, theseasonal ones.
So like, I don't know.
It just wasn't quite enough.
We need to get lapsed playersback and we need to give them a
reason to stay.
You have the Snap pack system,it's definitely an improvement,
but I think you gotta be alittle less stingy sometimes and

(05:15):
just get people through the dooragain.

Cozy Snap (05:16):
Yeah, I agree.
What I'm looking for right now,and I dunno why it's so hard,
I'm trying to do it on the sideof here.
Here it is.
I wanna see how much theyboosted this, their post here.
You, you could tell typically,like whenever on Twitter it says
the numbers right, the algorithmnumbers.
So 72,000 on the snapback.
Yeah.
So that's not nearly enough.
They definitely like marketingspin.
You can see directly like, likeright there, how much at least

(05:37):
they're putting into X orTwitter.
And that's usually a goodindication of where it's going
for the rest of this stuff.
But it doesn't look like theydid any if at all.
But yeah man.
Well, let's go and talk aboutit, man.
It's a brand new season.
We, we, we are excited as everto talk about all the brand new
cars coming to Marvel Snap inMay.
So we know what we're talkingabout over here.
We're breaking them all down.
We've got the new X-Men seasonupon us.

(05:59):
Alex, what are we talk about onyour side of the Snapchat?

Cozy.
On my side of Snapchat, we'regonna be discussing all the
series five cards that launchedlast month.
We're also gonna be discussingthe series four cards that
launched by Surprise last week,and we're gonna be doing a full
review of those.
And then as always, our Snapchatmailbag.

Cozy Snap (06:15):
Well buddy, before we jump into it, I'm about to
tonight I'm gonna be going tosee Thunderbolts Man.
And as I said, I think I saidthis last week.
I heard whispers.
It's the best movie sinceendgame, or at least potentially
to live up to.
Have you, have you gone and seenit?
Are, are you planning to go?
What's the, what's, what's theverdict?
I would

like to go.
It's just a matter of findingtime when I know, and I would
like to go,

Cozy Snap (06:36):
right, dude, I had to get a sitter, like I had to get
it all lined up.
You know what it is, is I, Iavoid.
Spoilers like crazy.
And because we work with Marvelstuff all the time, like all my
algorithms are set to Marvelstuff, so it's just constantly
in my feed and in my face.
And so I like, I can't do it.
I, I can't risk getting spoiled,so gonna go over there.

(06:57):
Apparently the in credit sceneis like insane is all I know.
That's all I know.
That's, that's the, I I, I'venot seen it.
I just, I've heard the wordsthat it's insane.
So I'm.
I'm strapped up for it, buddy.
And hopefully they, I think,man, they need a, they need a
buff white widow again, man.
They, they completely made hersuch a, such a garbage card in
this game.
Once a, once a great titan, Ifeel like we get so many good

(07:17):
tube drop tube drops, whichwe're about to get talk about
today, but we get somebody goodtube drops and then they, they
end up just getting nerve downthe line once they've had their
kind of reign.
Yeah.

Yeah, no, I know.
White Widow completely fell offthe face of the earth, like
completely like one smallchange, a significant Nerf
nonetheless, but it's gone.
Completely gone.
I dunno if I miss it though.
It was.
It was pretty rough.
Like in the heyday of WhiteWidow like it was.
It was a lot, man.

Cozy Snap (07:42):
Yeah, it

was.

Cozy Snap (07:42):
Well, but let's talk about the brand new season pass
card.
And the card to kick off thisseason is Esme Cuckoo, a three
four, my friend on Reveal.
Copy a card from your deck intoyour hand set.
Its cost to three and power tofour.
Now, Alex, I think when we readthis before.
We were like, okay, you gotIronman, you have some cool
stuff.
We looked at this back wheneverit first was kind of released in

(08:05):
the data mines, and it did notchange from what we saw it as.
I don't know if I expected thisto be the season pass card, but
as we continue to read itobviously man, you've got a
little bit of a draw enginewithin this card and have a way
to, to get access further intoyour deck, which is pretty cool.
You know, obviously it can, itcan hit cards, maybe you don't
want it to, but I think thisthing has some strong potential.

(08:26):
Before we go into the synergythough.
First impressions, what's yourstar rating?

First impressions.
I think this is a strong four,like a very strong four.
I don't think it hits like thefive of some other stuff in the
past, but I think it's a verystrong four.
I don't wanna dive too much intosynergies.
XI wanna give you a chance torebuttal your, your star rating
and stuff like that, but this isa card that as I continue to try
to like design decks for andfigure out, I'm like, I think

(08:50):
this might be better than I gaveit first credit for for a lot of
different reasons.
But yeah, I'm gonna go with agood four.

Cozy Snap (08:56):
Yeah, it's funny, it's, it's a tough one to
evaluate because I really likewhat it does.
The fact that it's giving you afree draw is awesome, right?
Potentially it could be thedraw, the, the card that's on
top.
Keep in mind guys, it's, it'sfrom your deck, so it's what's
remaining, right?
It's not your starting deck.
It's not what you built.
It's what's remaining in yourdeck.
So you also have a little bit offoresight, right, of what's
gonna come.
That's how it's gonna work.

Yeah, I absolutely think so.
I don't think it's gonna be likethe top card.
No, I think it would specify ifit was a top card.
So it's probably gonna be arandom card that's in your deck.
But there is a couple thingsnotable about that.
That means that, like forinstance, we'll, well, I'm sure
we'll talk about it, but if wecan get right into it, like
Silver Surfer, I wanna talkabout it quick.
You, you

Cozy Snap (09:33):
didn't even open himself.
Technically I haven't evengotten to my star rating and I
just like, Alex was just like,Surfer.
Okay,

fine.
I'll hold it.
I'll hold it.
Star rating.
Cozy

Cozy Snap (09:41):
surfer's.
Definitely the, yeah, definitelySuby there, but no, I, Hey.
I just, I did all that just tosay I agree with you on a strong
four.

But yeah, go ahead buddy.
I'm glad.
See, we, we agree.
It'll be interesting'cause Ihave some, I have some pretty
intense ratings coming up, soI'd like to see where you are.
I get really excited about this,right?
I like to know where you are atcompared to where I am, but
yeah, like for example, withSurfer, right?
A lot of people I think aregonna focus on the fact that you
know, you're adding, you're,you're making something for
power, right?
And so, oh, Surfer goes from atwo to a four power.

(10:09):
You know, a sage goes from athree zero to a.
Three, four.
And that's pretty cool.
But I think what is reallyimportant here is that you could
potentially copy Surfer that'sin your deck.
And if you don't draw it, thenyou have a Surfer there and you
have your end game play.
Or what if you draw a Surferanyway?
You got two surfers, you couldactually still draw into the
cards that you've copied, whichI think could create some pretty

(10:30):
interesting shenanigans.
And then the other side to thisis because it says set its cost
to three, that makes me believethat it should work.
That if you hit Sarah.
With with Cuckoo here, cuckoo,right?
If you hit Sarah, Sarah is nowtechnically a three costed card
that will get buffed by SilverSurfer as well.
So Gwenpool, Galata, Sarah, andthose types of cards that could

(10:53):
be set to three costs couldtherefore be part of the buff
towards Surfer.
So I actually think that'spretty fascinating.

Cozy Snap (11:00):
Yeah, it's always but the set is curious there because
we've seen stuff like, oh, doesit change it towards Zo can work
and like things like that withfour cost cards.
And sometimes that's not thecase.
But if, if that is the case,then awesome.
It could get buffed even if it'snot though.
Yeah.
Here's the thing.
I think this thing has way morepotential than we're giving it
by the simple fact of in cardgames, right?

(11:20):
You never know what you don'tdraw.
And so if you are in Facting, acopy of a card that you don't
draw, like that has so muchpower behind it in a 12 card
deck game.
Point blank.
We've seen that they're verystrict with this effect.
It took Adam Morelock two yearsto get buffed with the draw
engine.
Crystal has continued to be abad card that they've tried to
make, you know, with a littlebit of give and take.

(11:41):
Anything that has card draw hasdrawbacks.
Typically.

Come on.

Cozy Snap (11:46):
This is an

obvious answer to this.
Go ahead.
Crystal's not a season pass cardclown.
Yeah, I know, right?
Yeah.

Cozy Snap (11:51):
Fair, fair enough.
But yeah, listen, I think thataspect alone is gonna make combo
decks that much better, right?
Like there are so many decksthat they can't add too much
draw engine.
Like one of the reasons I lovemagic is because like, I just
like, you know, going throughyour deck, drawing, scrying you
all that good stuff, you can'tdo it here because you could
just make combo decks that areso good that you just obliterate
your opponent because you havethat consistency.

(12:13):
But this is a step towards thatbecause you are able to get
that.
Now, another thing to what youjust elaborated on and before I
go to surfers, yeah.
I mean if you are missingcertain cards in your hand, you
have that much of a better shotto get said card.
And then if you get two of'em,well great.
So you have that benefit gettingtwo cards that you could play.
You could get two surfers toplay on the same turn.

(12:34):
On turn six.
But then as another effect, youknow, I'm going up to four and a
half because I like this somuch, but as another effect, you
can, you know, target certaincards with that kind of Mr
negative boost, right?
The Ironman, so on and so forth.
The, the, the Sarah to set tothree four.
So it's doing so many differentthings for you at the exact same
time, which makes me like her alot as a card.
It makes me think she can workway more than just in something.

(12:56):
Like Silver Surfer decks and orother, you know, synergy decks
of that.
So we'll have to see how itplays out.
This is definitely one of those,how, how it ends up feeling in
play.

I.
Yeah.
And again, there's a chance thatit won't interact the way that
I'm expecting or we're expectingwith it set its cost of three.
So like if Sarah does not getbuffed by Surfer, you're still
getting CED on turn four, right?
Which is still somewhatbeneficial while only giving up
one power there.
But I, I, I have like, it, itsays set it's cost with a
capital C to three.
That would make me think it'sgonna get buffed by Surfer.

(13:26):
But again, sometimes we getsurprised.
Obviously bro's a winner here.
If brood gets hit, it's now afour power card.
That tends to be, you know,pretty damn powerful.
I got a question for you now.
I know that you're a lover, anabsolute lover.
One of your favorite cards inthe game, your avatar, Cozy, the
Pixel Colson.
I wanna draw some comparisons toColson.
Do you think this is pure powercreep on Colson?

(13:46):
Because Colson gives you tworandom cards, which can be
beneficial.
Sure.
But with.
With Esme.
I wish.
I, I, now I don't, I I, I reallylike Esme.
Paid attention to how to say thecard's name now.
And now that I'm live, I like,how do I say this name properly?

Cozy Snap (14:01):
Is it Esme?
Esme.
Esme Cuckoo.
Esme.

Esme.
I thought it was Esme

Cozy Snap (14:07):
Cuckoo.

Esme.
You know what's sad?
I even looked it up prior torecording because I didn't wanna
embarrass myself like this.
And now that we're live, I, I,it's like I'm drawing blanks.
So Esme cuckoo here.
How's it compared to Colson?
Is this straight up power creep?
Because now you're getting Yeah,it's just different with, with,
you're getting two cards.
But the random with Esme, you'regetting a card from your deck,
which theoretically should bemore valuable.

Cozy Snap (14:27):
I think it's just different, like, you know,'cause
then it's like, okay, soVictoria hand is where you'd
like kinda look at that?
Yeah.
Because you're, if you'replaying closer for other
reasons, like you're not, then Idon't really compare the two
because I don't know, I just.
Yes, yes and no.
Like this has more upswing attimes.
But then also, you know, gettingrandom generation could be good
too, I think.
I think because it only doesone, it just serves a different

(14:48):
purpose in Colson.
But yeah, if they one had to becut and for more consistent
purposes, you're probably goingwith Esme.
So yeah, it's of comparison.
I don't see her being played inVictoria hand, even though there
is synergy there.
I don't see that being like atargeted a, a huge targeted
build.

I think it has potential.
Yeah, it has potential.
Because if you think about it,it, the card that gets copied
will be able to get Victoria Hambuffed.
But if you also think about thetargets in those decks, like a
three four devil, Dino is legit.
Yeah.
Because that allows you to playit with mystique on turn six.
Right.
And you could even maybe playthe Devil Dino, you drew onto
turn five also mystique itselfbeing a three four plus the
effect could be potentiallyhuge.

(15:24):
Oh, I don't know, man.
I, I could see it potentiallybeing legit there.
Like, I don't think it'sironically Kori last.
Season was probably better forthat overall and didn't quite
make it to the top, but I wonderif.
This card in conjunction withKhor.
Now you got me thinking about A,so I think it'll work.

Cozy Snap (15:41):
I wonder.
I think it'll work, but likewhen I compare it to like Surfer
and some other brews that wecould put together here, I think
it's just like down a couplepegs from that and so then it
won't get played.
Like we see that like, oh, thiscould work, and then we find the
one that does work and thenpeople gravitate towards that.
Just

play that.

Cozy Snap (15:54):
Yeah.
Like kind of what we saw withStrange Supreme and Thanos,
right?
Like that once that took heat,it's like, man, did that really
kind of gain its ground?
Right.
But I do agree, like it doeshave a shot there.
You know what I'm, I'm curiousin is like, how do you blend a
merge of like,'cause we're gonnaget day one, a lot of like, oh,
let's do Iron Man, let's dogore, let's do, you know, some
cool, like honor reveal effects.
The, the stuff we've seenbefore, these cost setters, the,

(16:16):
you know, the, the white Tigersand whatnot.
You know, fast dose is gonna becompared a lot this season to a
couple cards and, and it's like,we've tried stuff like this
before, but I think with her,what I like about her the most
outside of just the set costthing is just the consistency.
Of drawing further into the deckwhile getting something that you
can play the next turn.
You know, most definitely.
Like, that's another greatthing.

(16:36):
You have an on curve play kindof no matter what, kinda wish
there was some Sebastian Shawsynergy, I was like, okay,
permanent power.
But no, he's a four already, sohe doesn't gain power.
Yeah, I don't think so.
Technically.
Right.
But yeah, man, I think Surfer isby far the bat man.
Captain Carter, Silver Surfer,brood.
You're happy with like, anythingthis hits there and like the
consistency of that deck willget that much better.

Yeah, no, I, I do agree.
Another shadow deck wise is Idon't know if Mr.
Negatives cope, but like maybeit's a backup plan to not
drawing negative, although youlike, you generally, if they
Snap, you would retreat anywaywithout negative on three or
four by just kind of throwing itout there that it would copy
like high impact cards, right?
Like the Ironmans and the goreand stuff like that.
And it's probably legit intribunal honestly.
'cause if you think about theway you close out games with

(17:18):
tribunal, you are oftenaccessing cards like Iron Man
Tribunal itself onslaught thatyou're utilizing for their
effect.
And so potentially she might bea card you could play there to
give yourself some additionalreach.
It would probably take the placeof something like an Iron LA and
what those shells used to be.

Cozy Snap (17:35):
Yeah, I'm glad you mentioned that.
I think tribunal with a lot ofthese cards we're gonna talk
about today just gets moreconsistent, gets better and, and
ends up being you know, we kindof talked about that at the
beginning with Captain Carter.
It's like, oh, is that somethingwe wanna do there?
And then as you continue to lookthrough what this card does, it
is going to reach in that deckfurther and we've seen magic.
Played in tribunal, you know, alot to, to extend the game, to

(17:56):
get deeper into the deck.
Sarah there as well, to playthings cheaper and get on, like
get tri.
Yeah.
All that.
So definitely agree.
We could see some of that withEsme.
I think it's cool though that wehave the potential for this car
to also just work in places thatwe have no idea until we
continue to further theory craftsome of these cards come out and
we kinda know exactly wherethey're gonna go.
I, you know, it's funny becauseI think because we don't know

(18:19):
that, that's why we both kind ofgive her four, four and a half
and we can't give her like thebest rating.
But I do think the strongestpart of that kid outside of the
set is gonna be just getting acard from your deck that you
don't have in your hand on tierthree, and really just help out
consistency.
I mean, even something likeWiccan.

Oh yeah.
True.
Wicked.
Yeah.
I mean, you're playing this onthree.
Yeah, you still play Wicked onFour.
You'd get the effect though.
Wicked's all about the effect,right?
So it still works.

Cozy Snap (18:42):
I ki I like Surge, actually way better which we're
about to get to in Wicked than Ido.
Esme because that's more of anon curve play.
Anything though to close outEsme, obviously cards like Gore
and with low power, highPotential, those are gonna be,
you know, the big winners.
But.

No, I, I do have, I'm gonna come back to her
in our next discussion though, Ithink.
Oh,

Cozy Snap (19:00):
yeah.
Great.
I'd like to see it.
I'd like to hear it hit the

hat a little

Cozy Snap (19:03):
bit.
Okay.
Fair enough.
Well, let's go ahead andcontinue on to our next card,
Surge and listen, we will notshy away from probably both of
us liking it.
I mean, is this your five starcard of the month or what?

You know what, I am not gonna go five star on
this.

Cozy Snap (19:18):
Okay.

I think it's really good, but I, I think it,
I think it might be gettingpumped a little hard.

Cozy Snap (19:23):
Okay.
I think it's the best card this

month.
Yeah.
I.
I say think the most interestingcard this month, and it could
very well be the best card thismonth.
Ooh.
I'm curious, but like peop like,I don't know if I, if I would go
five on this, I'm gonna go five,I think think it's, yeah, I
think it's a four.
I think it's a four for me.

Cozy Snap (19:36):
I, I think I'm gonna go five.
I think this is the one where Isee it being played.
This is like the new two, as Isaid earlier, I think this is
like the new two that getsplaced.
So if, if you don't know, searchis a two.
Two, okay.
On reveal, give the top card ofyour deck, negative one cost and
plus one power.
And after you play that, you'regonna repeat this ability.
So you're, you're essentiallyjust.
Continuing this snowball if youwill of what your top deck's

(19:59):
gonna be over and over.
And as you play those cards, youget to be able to get the effect
yet again.
Search does have to be on alocation to be, to get this
effect.
And there's ways to abuse this.
Alex, I'll give it to you first.

So first of all, I'm actually super excited
about this card when this cardwas Data Mind and it's pretty
much remained consistent.
I don't know if the powerchanged at all.
It might have been a two, three,I don't remember.
But I was super excited.
I think this is a really cooleffect, really cool ability.
I think it's a really cooldesign.
Kudos to whoever came up withthis idea.
'cause I think it's neat.
This is like what Marvel Snapshould be really interesting
stuff that wouldn't be able to,like this is the type of thing

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that would be hard to replicatein paper, right?
For instance, like, and that'swhere Marvel Snap really shines,
however.
If you get everything perfectand every top deck that you get
is exactly what you wanna play,then yeah, this crushes, the
numbers get insane, especiallywhen you consider the negative
cost.
And then if you start to factorin her power, she's outputting,
and then the negative cost,she's like, this could be like a
negative three, six power cardor whatever.

(20:56):
Right?
Or like, you know what I mean?
Like, it's kind of interestinghow it scales.
However, you're gonna play cardsin your starting hand, right?
You're not gonna play er on twoevery single time.
There's gonna be moments where,you know, you play Surge and
then you're, you top deck acard, you're like, well, this
card's not what I wanna playright now.
I'm gonna play this, and thenyou play the other one.
So you're gonna be like holdingback its upward potential a

(21:18):
little bit.
I'm just concerned of what theflow of the game state looks
like for Surge.
On paper, you play Surge and youjust keep playing the top deck
card.
But I don't think that's the waywe play Snap for the most part
with Minoru exceptions, whichI'll talk about in a sec.
But s I'm excited for.
But I'm wondering if the actualplay pattern might be more

(21:39):
difficult to get the value fromthan first Like, it first
appears

Cozy Snap (21:43):
a hundred percent.
And I, I understand what you'resaying.
That's not the way we play SnapNow'cause we don't have a card
that could do that.
I think because Surge does that,that's gonna change the way we
play it.
So, you know, I, I understand alot of your points.
I think first of all, if we weretalk about like, you know, it
only takes one hour time to givea card to five star rating if it
makes that, you know.
Archetype broken.
And in this case, I think it'sbalance, right?
Like balance and there's anothercard I'll bring up in a second,

(22:06):
but balance for sure.
And I don't know, sometimes man,you can only play cards once and
they only let effects happenonce.
So I don't, I don't really know.
But after you play it, it seemslike you can continue to play
this.
I don't know why this wouldn'twork in balance, in my opinion.

To me, so we don't have confirmation of this
yet.
I actually looked at the Discordto see if I could find it, but
it doesn't exist.
I believe it's more like a hotpotato thing with surge where
you play.
So you play surge and then thecard, you top deck, you play
that, and then that effect getspassed onto the card in the
deck.
So if you bounce the originalcard, it shouldn't repro the
effect.
Okay.
I don't believe so.

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I don't know even.
But then again, if it does, it'scrazy.

Cozy Snap (22:42):
Yeah.
If it does.
Or just playing Surge again andplaying her twi, like, I don't
know.
I feel like there's a way to geta chain reaction going kind of
nutty with her.
And the potential with Toxin andBeast there just makes those
decks way more consistent, makesthose draw engines even cheaper.
And then you can start to stackcost reduction, which makes that
whole thing wild.
So to me, and then just gettingthat extra power, it's like all

(23:03):
those cards want that anyway.
Right?
And that minus cost.
So I think that alone makes youcompletely broken.
Now Kitty pride that there's, tome, there's no way that works.
But also the luck of thathappening.
Should it work?
Like if Kitty pride happens tobe the top deck, okay, you get
to unlock, you know a free surgeplay every single time.
Is that how that's gonna work?

(23:23):
Or again, is it passed along, Iguess, to your.
Point.

Hot potato type idea.
Yeah.
Okay.
So I actually, we don't know,and I, I tried to find out'cause
I knew this conversation wasgonna come up.
Yeah.
And we don't have the answer.
This is like a mechanicsquestion we'll have to answer
when the card comes out, or atleast closer to the release.
But yeah, kitty pride would beinsane if you could just keep
applying that effect.
And because it says.
Give it the negative one costwith no minimum, it'll make
these one costed cars zero.
Yeah.

(23:46):
That are often being used inbounce, which I think is a huge
benefit, especially when youconsider the fact that toxin
just got buffed too.
Yeah, right.
No,

Cozy Snap (23:53):
for sure man.
I think this is, this is thecard that I thought was cool
with wicking.
'cause you can go Quicksilverturn one, and if you have surge,
you have the potential to gocrazy here and do some kind of
wild stuff.
With Wcan, I feel like there'sjust so many different homes for
her.
And then also just as a basecard.
She's gonna have that value.
I don't need a two six in valueevery single time.
If I have a two, four, and tworeductions in costs that allow

(24:15):
me to do something like Aeronfour, you know, you know what
that can do.
You know the, the ability thatcan do Living Tribunal, huge
boost, but also across theboard, I think this thing has
some serious firepowerpotential.

It does it, it definitely does.
And so I was trying to likefigure out some decks in advance
of surge as well and in advanceof our conversation.
I find it potentially tricky inlike a ramp style shell.
I was trying to figure out likehow those would play and I, I'm
not completely sold on itbecause like, if you think about
it, you'd have to place surgeand then top deck.
A four drop to play that withthe value or you just hold, like

(24:50):
if you get a six drop, you canstill play it on five, but then
you're not repeating the effect.
Right?
So I don't think that ramp isnecessarily the best option, but
it wouldn't surprise me if thatis a, is a place where people
try to go.
What I will say though is thatlike I think there are gonna be
some cars that even if you onlyhit them once and you don't
continue the surge effect,they're just great.
Like imagine you hit a Shanxiand now Shanxi is a three costed

(25:11):
card.
That, that's exactly what madeZapu insanely broken when he was
an ongoing, originally right?
Where like cards were just, hewas making cards too inexpensive
and you were able to do thingslike Sean Chi into something
else on turn, 6, 2, 4 drops towin the game on turn six.
But where I think he's gonna bethe absolute best and where I'm
gonna be going on day one.
And this is, this is the deckthat I'm going with and it's

(25:33):
gonna have east May cuckoo,cuckoo in it as well.
I think they're gonna beexcellent together in a vast
agent, venom and havoc shell.
If you think about the way thoseshells are constructed, they're
constructed so that you couldbasically have kitty pride who's
in that deck.
So I'll be able to find out ifit works or not.
You have kitty pride in havoc.
The idea is you play havoc onturn four and all the rest of

(25:53):
your cards are costed three orless.
What that allows you to do isplay kitty pride plus a three
drop that you top deck,regardless of what happens with
havoc.
'cause he's always stealing thatenergy.
You only require four energy inorder to actually complete your
turn every, every turn.
Surge could be potentiallyinteresting there.
'cause no matter what you topdeck, you'll be able to play it

(26:16):
because everything is built tobe able to play instantly and
you might even be able to sneakout more cards because of
surge's discount.

Cozy Snap (26:22):
I like that.
Yeah.
It is got kind of like an oldschool like Miracle Field to it
a bit too.
Like I love low cost of decksthat could just like pop off
late and I think that's whereSurge.
You know, as you said earlier,it's not the way we play, but
also like, I think I, I feellike the, the Snap community
will be able to cook with thisreally well.
Like to your point, just Shung qgetting discounted is awesome,
but like, think about once youstart to multiply that to have

(26:43):
just about an effect on, youknow, most of the cards in the
deck and then you go crazy.
One of the best points aboutSnap is the low deck size that
you can make things happen, youknow, the way that you envision
them and, and SRG, I think isgonna bring a good amount of
consistency.
I used to always like measurelike, oh, but if you don't draw
her, and I think, you know, Ithink Falcon Captain America
kind of just.
Destroyed that Sam Wilson.
Like, we were like, well, whatif you don't get'em and you

(27:05):
can't play the shield tunes out?
He was always a good card.
Now obviously there's otherreasons for that, but I think
Serge has kinda the world aheadto be a, a good two cost.
And I like that she's coming nowand not later.
Because if this is a card that'slike a musket and you are
complex collection, complete orclose to it then you know you're
gonna roll less of a chance tobe able to get this.
And if we look at the rest ofthe season, this is probably.

(27:26):
Probably my favorite outta thebunch.

By far this is like if we're star rating based
on excitement, this is my fivestar.
Yeah.
Like this is the card I want inmy collection.
100%.
This is what I wanna cook with.
I'm just being a little hesitanton what I think could be the
floor.
I think the floor could beslightly lower.
On surge.
I.
'cause of like, and, but again,but as you said, people are
gonna get this, I think theexcitement's high enough that
there's gonna be cooks.

(27:49):
People are gonna cook andsomeone's gonna figure something
out.
That's an absolute banger.
And sometimes that's what youneed.
You just need one really welldesigned deck for a card to take
off.

Cozy Snap (27:57):
I'm shocked you, you like I am blown away.
You did not bring up power.
The duck.
You didn't bring up grandma likeyou really had to like continue.
So I, I was ready for the like,are you ready for medical grade?
Copio?
Get the veins ready.
Like I was, I'm here.
I was ready.

Buddy.
Well then all the rest of thecards we gotta talk about
require medical grade opium, sodon't worry, buddy.
You got that.
So I'll keep

Cozy Snap (28:17):
plenty of it as we move along.
Alright, so Serge card of themonth in both of our opinions.
Yeah.
Without question, prodigy.
Now Alex notoriously hated thiscard's art design.
As soon as you sell it, myglasses.
And he sees himself a lot inProdigy here, a third cost four
power card on Reveal if this isin the back row.
Also, Alex's favorite mechanic.

(28:37):
Copy the text of the card infront of it.
What do you think about Prodigy?

You know what Prodigy looks like a studious
individual.
But I think this card probablysucks.

Cozy Snap (28:48):
Yeah, I don't think it's that good.
I think that we got our answerto how this mechanic works and
it's just.
It's just awkward.
Like at least I felt this waywith, you know, captain Carter
even before they now keep aneye, there's back row, front
row.
But I, I feel like there were somany, there were games where I'm
like, whoa, look at what I'vedone, you know?
But there was so many more gameswhere it's like, oh, I can force

(29:10):
this to happen, I guess.
And then I am, I.
Screwed over here, or, oh, well,that, that doesn't work out
where I wanna play.
Or my opponent is stacked upthere.
Some I, and so, because it, italmost forces you to commit so
much.
That's what I don't like aboutit, and that's what I'm hesitant
about for the back row.
I.

I absolutely agree 100%.
We got the answer with AgentCarter as to how that macro
gameplay feels, and it doesn'tnecessarily feel great.
And the thing with Prodigy isthat it dives even deeper into
that because with Agent Carter.
I think it's a much morestraightforward play pattern.
You're adding her power to theback line.

(29:50):
You're getting her into thefront row.
With Prodigy, there's an addedlevel of complexity.
It's like an extra stage ofabstraction where like you, you
have to have a card in frontspecific to one of the two
locations to then copy to makeit worth it.
I just think it's too expensive.
What's your cost at a free dropstar rating?
You're giving them my star.
I'm doing two, and I wrote inbrackets barely.

Cozy Snap (30:09):
Oh, okay.
Yeah, I think I, I think I.
I think of how he's gonna bewith Living Tribunal.
It's like, it's tough.
'cause I feel like that's areally good home for him as well
though.
And, and there's gonna be timesI agree.
So like two and a half to threeis where I wanna lean.
I don't think I can give him athree.
I think I'll give him two and ahalf.

Here's the problem, here's the problem.
I see.
I think he's stepping on thetoes of two cards that I think
are just better.
I think that Moonstone is simplybetter than this card.
I think that FRI is simplybetter than this card.
And they're easier to play.
This does have some advantages,right.
But I don't know, man.
Like I see a lot of opportunityfor it to do well in ongoing

(30:47):
shells.
Yeah, you bring up a good pointwith the ongoing thing.

Cozy Snap (30:49):
Yeah.
So like, I was gonna say, well,why compare it to Moonstone?
But yeah, if you look at Ant Manand, and any of the, any of the
cheap ones, right?
It's like, well, yeah, you justdo moonstone at that point.
This is gonna give you reach toother potentials.
So at that point you would notwanna play Moon Sun.
You wanna, you know, mess aroundwith a, a, another more fun,
crazy option.
And there are things that canlike.
Go crazy with this guy.
You know, you can really do, andthat's why Living Tribunal is

(31:11):
such a safe build because youare committing to that one lane
and it's typically a lot easierto get that going.
But him being a three is alittle, there's just things I
don't like about how he playsout, and that's what has me
worried about him as a card.
But there is potential for, forhim to be to, to, to pop off.
I just think the consistency iswhat I worry about.
And yeah, I don't think, the sadthing is too, this is not a

(31:33):
season pass card, so if he doessuck, he's not gonna get, he's
not gonna get insto buff likecaptain Carter did.

You mean that Prodigy doesn't have the plot
armor of a seasoned passport?
It doesn't,

Cozy Snap (31:42):
bro.

I mean, there are a couple things I, I tried
to like figure stuff out now.
There's a couple things we'renoting.
First of all when you run thingslike Captain Carter or Prodigy
and you focus things veryvertically, especially ongoing,
does make it really susceptibleto something like Consis, which
is becoming increasingly morepopular.
And Enc Chra.
Ability to wipe out an entirelane and crush a game plan is

(32:02):
the reason why so on is doing aswell as it is'cause chances
naturally makes those decks inthe weekend missions you're
playing.
So on your feasting like hardbecause everyone's doing the
weekend missions for AgentCarter.
What I will say is that there isone specific line that I think
actually has potential probablywhere I'll go day one.
As of right now, we're stilllike weeks out, but you could
see Prodigy working in like apatriot.

(32:24):
Type shell as a backup togetting something like a
moonstone or mystique.
You could even technicallyprodigy.
Like you could play Prodigyinstead of something like a blue
Marvel, copy the Patriot infront, and then Tron.
'cause Tron is nice in the sensethat it'll just, it'll just
backfill.
Like it'll just.
You don't have to worry aboutthe other locations, it'll do
that.
But you can stack like aPatriot, moonstone, prodigy and

(32:46):
Antron and maybe that'ssomething.

Cozy Snap (32:47):
Yeah.
It's funny you said thatactually.
'cause I had wasp in here aslike the filler to like get the
quick fill and then go in thereand it's like, okay, well that
works in Patriot.
So like you could have somethingas an insurance too.
I just dunno if that.
Tech is gonna have to firepower, right?
Like if Yeah.
When you add him, it's like atake away other options.
That that's what has me slightlyworried.
But yeah, man, it just, he, heseems like his best synergy

(33:08):
would be the ones that have thebiggest upside though.
And like, if we're not even justtalking ongoing stuff, it's like
Esme you know, cuckoo or isme.
And we're gonna get one ofthose, right?
I think it's E SME Esme, EM.
A-S-M-R-E-S-E-M-E yeah, I thinkis, it s me for like

m sr.
I can't even say the word a SMRfor the rest of the, the
podcast.

Cozy Snap (33:30):
But I feel like even I would rather play her for that
exact, but she's a 3, 4, 2 bad,and then you get the effect.
I just like, even like way moreso than than him.
So to me, this guy's going tothe Snap packs.
To, to mess up your draws.
I feel like potentially he's notquite a

landmine, but he's like a grenade.

Cozy Snap (33:49):
Yeah.
He's like yeah, he's the onethat you're not like super mad
about.
But like, and luckily the onesafter him aren't good, but like,
I don't know, next season, Ifeel like if you're trying to
get the car to the, you know,next season and then you get
Prodigy, you're not like, ohgood, okay, alright.
I got pro.
You're like, damn.
Steve, I got Alex Kochi Jr.

No, no.
I think that Prodigy at the endof the day is probably gonna be
a skip for me.
I just don't, I don't see itbeing a good card, honestly.

Cozy Snap (34:14):
But skips are that much more interesting, right?
Because the, all that means is,let's say next week, like we, we
are in a fascinating, I.
Place because this month thecards kind of scaled down
almost.
Right?
Like almost scale down.
Oh, they scale down.
Yeah.
And excitement.
Right?
So it's funny that usually thiswould be a massive, like if
you're like, Alex, coach, Iofficially say this as a skip,

(34:36):
right?
It's like, okay, what if nextweek's card was a five?

I know now it just added to the mix.
Now you're, now it's, it's justspotlight Cash is all over
again.
Now you're just 50 50essentially.

Cozy Snap (34:45):
Well, yeah, 50 50 was, it was a 33% anyway.
Yes.
So proud G.
Moving on, we'll go to the nextcard of the month.
And, and again, proud GSomeone's gonna come up with a
cool cook for it.
We'll wait and see.
Probably not Elixir.
Elixir was once a card.
We were, we were pumped about,thrilled about.
And then they massacred.
Look how they massacred my boyhere.

(35:06):
He's a two cost three power cardon reveal.
One of your cards destroyed lastturn gets revived here.
Now, before I ask you for yourstar rating, would you accept
this or want this at a threecost blank power, but it has the
effect of Ghost Rider that youcan revive a card that turn.

That sounds better.
That sounds like a better card.

Cozy Snap (35:25):
Even like a four six

Cozy is cooking.

Cozy Snap (35:27):
I dunno if it seems exciting, what's your star
rating on him?

This card is absolute dog water.
I almost, I almost used phrasingof language that would've been
inappropriate for some viewersears.
Listen, man, this card sucks.
It's a one star.
I want nothing to do with it.
I don't even want it.
I don't even want it.
This card is garbage.
The original one, which was anactivate one costed card.
Was potentially a lot moreinteresting, especially since

(35:52):
Activate could be put in thestack to be used better
defensively than this card is.
I honestly, I have some cope.
I wrote down.
I think this card is completegarbage.
I might take this week off whenit releases.
Honestly, I think this cardsucks.
It's a one.

Cozy Snap (36:08):
Yeah, it is.
It's interesting that they.
We're not only so careful withthe first design, which seemed
broken, but then they came backand they gave it a two three.
Right?
So like directly like, allright, this is where we value
this card and think what itsimpact is.
Typically, that's what we couldsee with the custom power
assignment.
Right?
I feel like even though there'sthings this card can do, it's

(36:29):
that you would never use thecard slot on this card.
That's my, like my favoritething about him is he's like a
Chong chi counter.
Kind of like if you get.
Shunk cheat on a turn and youhave him, you can play him the
next turn and then you get thatcard back.
Like that's probably my favoritething you could do,

sir.
I have an UNO reversal card onyou.
Okay.
'cause I had that same thoughttoo, and then I was like, maybe
it's, oh wait.
No it's not.
Because when does Shung Qusually get played?
Cozy.

Cozy Snap (36:56):
Yeah, typically lost during the game.
Exactly.
But he also can be played

before.
And this garbage ass card saysit only brings back one of your
cards, destroyed the last turn,so it won't even bring back.
So let's say you, you don't evenhave initiative and you're like,
oh, they're gonna punch out mystrange supreme.
It doesn't matter.
It's only gonna bring backsomething from turn five.
If you play it on turn six,like, bro, this card is garbage.
Like I, I, I can't even seethat.

(37:19):
Like, put it this way, why yourhair is a hundred times better
than this card and still doesnot have any meta penetration.
Yeah.
Straight up.
Like I don't see why this hasthe same satellite as fire hair.
Fire hair hair's way better andstill is not necessarily meta.

Cozy Snap (37:32):
It's just awkward.
'cause all the cool stuff youcould do.
Yeah, it's just too little, toolate.
And that's why I was like, okay,would you rather have this.
You know, bring back somethingto turn off.
It's like that at least seemsremotely more interesting.
You know?
Like I feel like, it's like Ilook at Nimrod, I'm trying to
look at some of these cars thatactually can be destroyed
because all the cool stuff likeDeadpool doesn't get destroyed
technically.
So it doesn't work.
Right.
And that's, that's where it'supsetting.

(37:53):
I do think there's gonna besomething you can pull off with
misery and fire.
Like, I don't know, there'ssomething cool you can get going
on there.
And I think there's somethingwe're missing on that front.
But even with how excited wewere for fire hair.
Remember she turned out to belike stats bad, but a good card
kind of thing.
Like if that was the case.
With that, anytime we mess withmisery, the, the, the, the win

(38:15):
rate is typically miserable andI think Elixir is just gonna
potentially add to that.
A, a one is pretty bad.
We've given, we don't give a lotof ones here, man.

I know I even like Thaddeus Thunder Bull Ross.
Better than Elixir.

Cozy Snap (38:28):
Yeah, you did.
I think it's,

I think Thaddeus Thunder Bull Ross is a
better car than Elixir.
Straight up.
I actually play Thaddeus ThunderBull Ross.
Every once in a while.
I'd give a, not since Scar gotnerfed, but

Cozy Snap (38:37):
I think I'd agree.
I think I'd give it a one.
I just don't know the worldoutside of misery, like, I'm
just trying to think.

Venom and I, I don't know.

Cozy Snap (38:43):
I don't know.
It's just tough.
We're in dangerous

territory together now.
Giving ones is risky, man.
Yeah.

Cozy Snap (38:48):
Because if we set it like we're up for the roast,
right.
Marginal.
This is the best part

of the season now you know that, right?

Cozy Snap (38:53):
Yeah.
It's coming out right, likeright away.
Yeah.
'cause I'm look like, like I'mlooking at all these maybe a t.

A tma No, come on.
No,

Cozy Snap (39:01):
I'm saying

like's.
It's funny, I actually havewritten down literally a TMA is
cope forced to destroy in arevival.
Not even sure what though iswhat my note says.

Cozy Snap (39:09):
Not even sure what gets destroyed.
Yeah.
It it's just a bit awkward.
Can you, and there's just no wayto like abuse the card, you know
what I mean?
Like there's no way to dosomething crazy gr I mean,
maybe, maybe, but very often yougot a gambit counter look at
that.
Yeah, it's, it's a bit of abummer.
That's to, to say the least.
And it doesn't scream that muchexcitement outside of a guest.
I mean, I don't know, locations,you know, just death domain

(39:31):
something and then bring itback.
It is, we're reach the, well,it's not gonna be a good one.

Even with desk domain, it revives the card in
elixir's location, so you can'teven reach into the desk domain.
Yeah,

Cozy Snap (39:43):
yeah.
It's,

it's, oh no.
Actually you could pull him intothe desk domain and then he
should revive then explode.
Nevermind.
Take it back.

Cozy Snap (39:48):
There is that card, kiddo Omega come coming out
though, that will make thisthing better.
Yeah.

I think so.
I'm not sure if that wassupposed to be one of the series
four drops.
'cause I think the way it workedis the series four cards were
talking on my side.
I think those were technicallythe ones that were supposed to
be released for this month, butthey released them early to just
coincide with the Snap packs,

Cozy Snap (40:09):
destroy this next activate, destroy the next card.
You play this turn to gain itspower.
I think that, and it's only atwo cost, so I think that's
definitely something you can getcooking.
A bit better, a bit better withthis and Activate

would make that very, very straightforward
to active stock.
So then what would he be at thatpoint, we always

Cozy Snap (40:22):
wanna look ahead.
We don't wanna look backbecause, you know yeah, he's

better then possibly.
But then that's also you'rebanking on the fact that Kid
Omega doesn't get changed.
Nerf, this card, this card wasgood.
It was a one costed activatethat like it was godly actually.
Sounded good.
Yeah.
It's godly now.
It's now it got destroyed.
They must have figured out,honestly, a, a broken
combination with it and, anddecided to take it out to
pasture.

Cozy Snap (40:43):
That's typically what we see.
Yeah.
So we're not fans of Elixir.
Prodigy, not so much.
So we have a strong start withcuckoo.
Then surge is, is the, is therocking start there and it's all
on week one.
And then we end the season withZorn.
Zorn, my friend, two cast threepower.
After any three or forecast cardis played here, move it to

(41:03):
another.
Location Alex Ney.
Pretty interesting works foryourself and against the
opponents.
Where do you see Zorn?
What's the star rating?

I'm having a hard time with this one and I
think that like this is a starrating I want to come back to as
we get closer to the day I'mleaning to and I'm not excited
about it.
I almost wanna go three'cause Ithink that it could potentially
be better than that.
I think originally I wasthinking three, but I think that
Topaz is strictly better andmove, because the fact that you

(41:33):
can, you know, Topaz is puttinga card into the center location,
which lets you do stuff withGhost Spider and stuff like
that.
Whereas Zorn, it's gonna be alittle more random.
I think it's easy to playaround.
I don't know, man, I'm not soldon the card.

Cozy Snap (41:46):
I think it can work with top, like, I don't know.
I feel like at two I like it alot at two costs.
'cause we don't get a lot oftwos.
They typically, we get cardsthat step on each other at the
three cost lot.
So they.
Being able to play this for onlytwo and then kind of roll into
some of the strong synergiesthat we know exist.
Especially now with all the newmove cards.
Like we just have such a betterchain reaction, like crazy.

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And then you can play the hydroStomper out on three and you
don't have to waste that on.
Like, to me, I like the way thiscurves out a ton, but it almost
seems not needed, right?
Like I feel like we got to seethis week, like, how much move
did you play this week?

I played a lot of move, actually a lot of move
testing the the new carts.
'cause I I did a review videofor them separately because they
took us by surprise, played alot more move than usual, played
a lot of move poorly, honestly.

Cozy Snap (42:32):
But it was the most significant leap we saw in Move
ever really.
Like for sure.
Like, it was a big,

big inflection of power.

Cozy Snap (42:40):
And that's gonna happen when you have a bunch of,
a bunch of new cards all come atonce, which we'd even know of.
So like, I feel like Zorn islike not a little too late.
And I think there is gonna besome cool synergy you can get
off with him, but it does, youknow what, you know what I like
though about him?
There was is Red Wing.
I think Red Wing's interesting.
But again, like, because it'sthree, I never thought of that
actually.
So it's curve play.
So like, I like that curve playa lot better.

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So you have Red Wing, the firsttime you move it, add a card
from your hand to the, to theold location.
So it's like you then knowexactly where that card's gonna
go.
It's gonna go with Zorn and thenif it, like, it is just cool to
me and it's.
Zorn has played.
So that card that is gonna bethere is added so it could stay
there.
And so Zorn to me is cool'causehe plays defensive against cars
that your opponent's gonna tryto play, but then you also, you

(43:22):
can like build decks around it.
So I think Red Wing for me and acouple other synergies and move,
give him a three star for me.
But yeah, that was probably thecoolest cook I thought of.
I,

I, I like the red Wing call.
Honestly, that wasn't on myradar.
I like that call a lot.
'cause I was thinking along thelines of like, well what's a
scream deck need?
Right?
With like with you do a kingpinturn one and then you do, if you
have initiative, you, you zorn.
But like he's gonna needinitiative and also like you
guess location'cause they couldjust not play there.
Also the idea that it's gonna beany three or four cost is

(43:52):
strange.
It'd be interesting if he waslike, kind of repelling more
costs than just three or four.
Right.
I think they're trying to get alittle too cute with the magneto
byline here, like the kind ofthe way that Magneto and
Asteroid M work, I think they'rereally getting cute with the
lore and I think it might becompromising the card.

Cozy Snap (44:11):
What if they think surfer's gonna get too good?
And this is just a Surfer deckcard.
I

don't even know how a text against Surfer
though,

Cozy Snap (44:18):
because you can't play cards on that location.

Yeah, bro.
Yeah, but you would just, youcould just fill the other
location.
No.

Cozy Snap (44:24):
You

fill all the other brew would fill one and
then things would bounce around.

Cozy Snap (44:28):
Yeah, but it, it texts it technically a little
bit.
It makes their game play.
If they don't get brewed,they're.
I mean, they're probably introuble anyway with Surfer, but
I think it makes it a bit tough.
So basically

day one, you're telling me to make a Zorn
gene gray deck.
Exactly.
Yeah.
Force them into the sorn.
Exactly.
They just play vision.
I cry like what?
I don't know.

Cozy Snap (44:44):
Yeah, right.
Yeah.
They just play the oppositelocation.
But you're gonna

move, he just sits there actually, because it
doesn't repel five costs only

Cozy Snap (44:50):
two.

It's

Cozy Snap (44:51):
two cost commitment.
I'm trying to find use for my,I'm trying to find use for my, I
think

that this card is probably gonna be like not as
bad as Elixir.
I think it's gonna be too niche.
You got, listen, this is aclassic Marvel Snap problem
we're gonna have going forward.
There's 12 cards in a deck.
I don't see this making it

Cozy Snap (45:07):
for sure.
The point I brought up earlieris like, oh cool, like Prodigy.
It's like, oh cool.
But does he ever make the the,yeah, the 12 decks or 12 cards
in a deck and like as the gamecontinues to.
Not only expand, but as the gamecontinues to evolve and we get
better and better cards andtighten up those archetypes, you
gotta really prove yourself.

(45:27):
It's taken some archetypes,years to get replacements.
Man, we saw that with destroy,like, yeah, you remember X 23
was the first significant changeto destroy for like a year and a
half.
Like you No, no matter what weput in there.
And so, you know, I think Zorncould be another example of
that.

Yeah, that's the hope.
I mean, we'll see.
And also, like, this isobviously the tail end of the
season.
A lot changes.
This could get buffed, this, thetext could change archetypes
that it could go into could getbuffed or changed.
Yep.
We've seen that before too.
A lot can change before we getto Zorn.
So, so I'm, I'm tentative atbest.

Cozy Snap (45:58):
So pretty easy, right?
It's gonna be, you know, to putthem in a search is our number
one.
Two is

gonna

Cozy Snap (46:04):
be

cuckoo.
I'm, I'm gonna go estimatecuckoo then search.
From a power standpoint.
Okay.
From a power standpoint.
Excitement wise, I'm surge one.
But in terms of ranking powerwise, I think sme, which I'm
still saying wrong, probably Ithink might end up just being
better.
I don't even know, man.
I don't knows.
It's so close.
It's so close.
I actually really like Surge.

(46:25):
Should we just put Surge one orwhat?

Cozy Snap (46:26):
I have Surge one.
Esme two, three,

I think.
Yeah.
I'm gonna do Esme one, searchtwo.

Cozy Snap (46:32):
I think I'm gonna go Zorn over Prodigy for three.

I even though, okay, I'm gonna go prodigy over
Z.

Cozy Snap (46:38):
Yeah, that's probably right.
To be honest.
Like honestly that's the aredead last, honestly.
That's probably right.
Yeah.
Then the L are dead.
Dead, dead last.
And then we just got all those,all those move cards.
So definitely gonna be aninteresting month.
May has always been historicallya really good month for Snap,
like just in terms of what we'veseen.
They did announce we did getword apparently of a second
dinner ran tournament.

(47:00):
Did you hear about this?

Only fleeting information about it.
I think they said, are youinterested in learning more?
I said, yes.
I, I think it was literallylike, emote here if you wanna
learn more, is the extent ofknowledge I have.

Cozy Snap (47:10):
Yeah.
Yeah.
I, I, I think that's cool thatthey're potentially going to
dive into the, the, thecompetitive scene and you know,
we'll see, we'll see what thatlooks like.
Would love to

buddy.
I'm super excited about apotential competitive scene.
Man.
I hope to see you at the desk.
Oh, would love to man.
Would love to.
We would love second dinner.
That so awesome.
Just to say hello.
We got one.
We did the Deadpools Diner.
Remember it was just all botsand we we're trying to cast and
they're like, stop talking aboutthe bots and our ears.

Cozy Snap (47:35):
Golly.
Yeah.
They're like, don't mention thebots.
And then there's like a Colossusplate on turn four and we're
like, well Alex, you know,that's a bold move from Henry
right there.
I'm off

camera.
I'm like this.

Cozy Snap (47:46):
Dude, they just kept saying, don't talk about the
boss.
It was so awful and I can't talkabout it much.
But for those that are listeningthere's the, did you, did you
see rivals with a, with$3million tournament?
No, I didn't see that.
3 million You missed.
This dude's the biggest, thisisn't even like rivals news.
This was like massive, like,just like competitive video game
news.
I'm

under a rock, man.
I dunno what's

Cozy Snap (48:07):
going on Co.
The$3 million buy, buy theRivals Team Land Tournament
worlds.
So they're gonna get everysingle region best.
Best teams, best players.
Put'em against each other,

buddy.
That is incredible.
I'll be competing in person.
This is perfect.
It's just, yeah, right.
You'll be

Cozy Snap (48:24):
representing Canada.
I'll be rocket raccoon baby.
Yeah, Lord

Rocket.

Cozy Snap (48:27):
You'll be competing in Canada, man.
So it's exciting times, man.
E exciting for Snap anddefinitely wanna see how things
continue to evolve obviouslywith, with more than the Snap
pack, do you think?
Okay, so here's the deal.
This is the only thing that Iwas a little, like, they were
like, and in the future.
Archetype specific Creator pacs.

(48:47):
How's the alliances going?
Weren't they in the future?
Wasn't there alliance for, youknow what I mean?
I, I feel like I've heard theword in the future a lot with
Snap and it makes me a bitnervous.

You know what I was thinking about the other
day, and I know this is notdirectly answering your
question, but I.
They haven't released a roadmapin a while.
'cause I think the last timethey did that did not go so
well.
So I don't know if we'll eversee one of those ever again.
So I think that was a year ago.
I think the future, yeah, it isa while, man.
And hopefully they get IGN to dothe reveal again.
That'd be great.

Cozy Snap (49:14):
Oh man.
We can only, we can only be solucky.
Only the

OGs remember that.

Cozy Snap (49:18):
Goodness.

Cozy.
We have a lot to talk abouttoday, a full season In review.
We're gonna be holding ourselvesaccountable for some rankings,
which honestly, I.
Might have I might get cold outa little bit for one or two of
the rankings.
But overall, I mean, it was akind of an interesting season
this past.
And we also got a bunch ofseries four cards, shadow
dropped on us, like the oblivionRemastered edition series four

(49:40):
remastered, boom.
So we're gonna be talking aboutall those as well.
We got a lot to car a lot ofcars to go through here, coach.
So we're gonna dive right in.
What I'm gonna say here is thatthere's some hits this season.
There are some misses thisseason.
We have Snap packs.
A lot of stuff has changed, butwhat has not changed is the plot
Armor of season pass cards.

(50:01):
Captain Carter, the season passcard came out.
It was performing okay.
It was performing simply, okay?
It was not great, and it was aforecast.
It got moved to a three cost,and now suddenly it's getting a
little more life, a little moreplay.
Was that what you expected fromCaptain Carter?

Cozy Snap (50:19):
Yeah, we said it.
We literally said, I think whenwe were reviewing it, we were
like, we don't know how thefront row back row thing works,
but if it doesn't work well weknow one thing, they're gonna
buff this card lightning fastand that that they did.
And this is one of the biggersignificant, like, oh wow, dod,
that this really is gonna helpwhere it's played at that we
haven't seen.
In, in a good amount.
Like we, like yoga.

(50:40):
Mesh had that huge, like whoa.
Which, you know what's crazy?
Yoga mesh was released either inJune or May last year.
We've had that card a year nowtime's flying.
Wow.
But you know, with that we saw avery quick turnaround, but it
just made it more powerful.
Whereas this like quiteliterally changed the entire
purpose ish of the card.

Cost reduction is huge, like power changes,
whatever.
But in a card game with six orseven turns, cost reduction is
very significant.
And it made perfect sense.
And I think it was an admissionthat the macro consideration of
how you play Captain Carter andthe positioning that you put her
in was too much of arestriction.
It was also a for drop that didnot wanna be played with Zao.
Like the decks just did not,were not conducive with Zbu

(51:21):
play.
And as a result, she was alwaysa for drop.
That wasn't great.
So far one of the concerns wasif she's a three drop, how does
it interact with Moonstone?
The interaction is positive tothe tune of a, that particular
decking, a 53 to 54% win rate onlike thousands of games played.
But on average, despite the buffon aggregate, captain Carter

(51:43):
Post, it still runs a flat 50%win rate at 16% meta popularity.
So it's not a mover, it's not ashaker.
It's just, it's a card thatexists and it's doing its thing,

Cozy Snap (51:54):
it, it plays better than it stats.
I feel like at least that's howI, like, I love this.
I, I think this is a veryenjoyable card to play.

It is enjoyable, but when it got moved
to the three cost, I.
It had its power reduced.
It's, yes, you got the advantageof the cost reduction, but the
power reduction's a bit of adouble whammy on a card like
this.
It's almost like gladiator,right?
When you add one power togladiator, you're double dipping
on what that power that powerdoes.
Yeah.
Captive Carter's the same thing.
It would not surprise me if thiscard's a three.

(52:23):
Three buyer.
Yeah, it goes up to three.
Three eventually in the nextcouple months.
Yeah.
I think they had to, I thinkit's a three, three,

Cozy Snap (52:27):
I think all their testing they did at four, and so
like they, they couldn't.
I think going to three threeimmediately was too risky.
And so, you know, they, theywent with the three, two at
first because they don't wannago to three, three, it's too
good to go back down to three,two, then people are pick you
know what, you don't wantanother ter situation.
So and he got, you know, amillion buffs or nerves at that
point.

(52:48):
So I think they did play a bitmore safe.
I'll take a three, three oldday.
Three, two.
Those is strong as well.

Yeah, it's strong, but it's not, it's not
high enough, especially when youconsider what the season was
with the next card we'll betalking about captain Carter in
those shells, like you shouldn'tsee ongoing based shells maxing
out at 54% when you have CaptainCarter.
And the next card we're talkingabout Goliath, who has been a
Goliath for ongoing.
Honestly, you're not seeing asingle.

(53:14):
You're not seeing a singleongoing deck not running Goliath
right now.
It has a high meta popularitywith about 9% less than captain
Carter, but also CaptainCarter's being played in Surfer,
whereas Goliath is not.
I think that's part of the, thediscrepancy from a popularity
percentage perspective, its winrate is 2% higher at 52% win
rate, despite the lowerpopularity has positive cube

(53:35):
rate and it is a part of those,the best versions of Captain
Carter.
Or Agent Carter, Jesus, captainCarter.
Our running Goliath, Goliath isseeing play in Thanos shells.
It's being played in spectrumshells.
It's being played absolutelyeverywhere, where ongoing is
present, spectrum is present andit's crushing, it's doing very

(53:56):
well, especially as the twoslot.
It is the scaling option at thetwo cost.
That that ongoing need.
It doesn't quite Moon reach theway like a Mobius does or even a
strange Supreme, but it's anexcellent card.

Cozy Snap (54:08):
Yeah.
It's what it, we wanted from it,kind of like an anchor card, you
know the one that's just wellstatted for where it's at.
And we don't often get an anchorcards this, you know, late in
the Snap.
Right.
So like getting these cards thatjust really just help get the
archetype rolling.
And then what I said I think along time ago is like, it's a
very.
Beginner friendly card.
It's a very good card that couldgo into a wide variety of

(54:29):
different builds.
Even though it's all ongoing,you know, there's a lot of ways
to make it work.
So I think Goliath hit aboutwhere we expected.

Yeah.
Now it's worth noting that forfor Captain Carter, we came in
at four Stars.
So the season passed coming atfour Stars.
We did have some reservations.
It probably didn't even quitereach four stars there, but we
did both come in at five starsfor Goliath.
If you consider what it did forthat archetype.
I think, I think Goliath hasearned that, although I would

(54:57):
say it's probably closer to afour and a half or strong.
Four and a half, four isprobably what I would give it.
Yeah, it's, it's, yeah, it's notquite a five, like if you
consider what five usuallymeans.
Right.

Cozy Snap (55:05):
I think Captain Code is a four star card now,
potentially as a three cup.
You think so?
I don't think it even, it's justhow it plays.
I don't know.
I like it.
Yeah.
What'd you just give it a three?
You are not gonna give it a two.

I, I would, I would say it's a three, but I
think that it needs to be buffedto a three.
I think it's a strong three.
I think that happens sooner thanlater.
Yeah.
I think it's a strong theory,

Cozy Snap (55:21):
but yeah, I, as far as as Goliath, yeah.
I think we at least nailed thetake that we thought it was
gonna be like a very solid cardthis month that had a, a
definite, you we both had it atfive.
Yeah,

we both had at F five.
Yes.

Cozy Snap (55:34):
Alrighty, man.
So far, so decent.
Not, yeah, so far, so

good.
Now.
Next we have kri.
Now kri unfortunately is seeingalmost no play post infinite,
and therefore the stats we haveare very unreliable.
So untapped based statisticspost infinite over the last
seven days, she's seeing only a2% popularity in a win rate,
barely over 40%.
And so like you're not seeing itat all, like the decks just
simply aren't seeing play.

(55:59):
What I will say is that KRIactually surprised me a little
bit.
Like I didn't mind Kri in my, myplay and my time with it.
It was a card that I was playingin a Thanos, Loki shell.
It was very successful in thosedecks.
The shell itself was good.
It was a card that I probablystarted low on, but as I
continued to play, I was like,you know what?
I actually don't mind this card.

(56:19):
Like this card is a card thatdoes its thing.
Puts out like mathematicallystrong power.
I think it's deceptive how muchpoints it puts up.
I can see why people probablyjust said, nah, it's not worth
playing.
It's not needed worth getting.
Like it's just not needed.
Yeah.
It wasn't, it wasn't sparklyenough, didn't, something was
like,

Cozy Snap (56:37):
cool, but it's like,

eh.
Yeah.
I, I absolutely agree.
Like what were your thoughts onk?
What did we give Kori again?
Kori, we both came in at 3.5.

Cozy Snap (56:49):
Ugh.
I like three, 3.5,

which I think we're on the high end.
I think she would, she feelslike a A three.
She feels like a three in, butshe sta, she sta like a tuneup
one.

Cozy Snap (57:01):
I, yeah, like I think we're like, where I think Carter
is is and where you think she isis like the opposite of, I just
have her rated lower.
I just, yeah.
I don't, I didn't think she wasA needed, and B, like I just
forgot about her quickly.
Like as I continued to play the,well, especially one car, like.
We, we messed around with her inThanos.
It's like, well, gee, there'sone other card that came out

(57:22):
this month that did pretty goodin Thanos as well, and that,
that ended up being like,obviously the, the, the trade
off there.
So like, you know, there arecards that we get when they're
new cards.
They're like the card of theweek and then they just gone
into oblivion.
Mm-hmm.
Yeah.
And this one is definitely gonnabe staying in oblivion for a
little bit.

Yeah.
But for me, it's like, I keepsaying this and like this
happened with ThaddeusThunderball Ross too, where
like, I actually played the carda lot.

Cozy Snap (57:45):
Because that when was awesome in a assert, like in a,
which was crushing, yes.
Stupid good meta deck.
Like an if, if Devil Dino wasgoing off the charts, man, I'd
be playing Kor more, but.
We're not there.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Like you're, you're right,you're right.
Like I could have put Colson inthat deck and raised Colson's
win.
Right?
Like, I understand what you'resaying, but what, I guess what I
mean is, is sometimes I latchonto cards because like I
actually enjoy playing them andtha is sortable.
Ross was a good example.
This where everyone like puntedon that card, but I was like
actually playing it.
I'm like, no, it's doing thething more than you think it is.

(58:17):
Yeah.
It's better than you think itis, but it's not great.
It'll get buffed to a two threeat some random OT at some point,
but.
With Khoi, I think this is avery similar spot.
Okay.
Where I think it's anunremarkable card that probably
is completely fine statisticallynot worthy of a buff, but also
not needing like you to seek itout for instance.
Right.

Cozy Snap (58:36):
That's the beauty of staff though, right?
Is just finding things that fitpersonality and play styles and,
and then, you know, that happensin several games, but I think
Snap is a great, it happens alot where like.
Listen, there are people thatare still just like diet, even
looking at something like havoc,right?
Like some people hate havoc.
Alex, I love havoc.
Yeah, he likes havoc, so I loveit.

(58:56):
So it just, it it fits your playstyle more and you know, we see
that with potentially cohorttoo.

I'm pretty sure on Havocs Spotlight Week, I
ate rolled for the the spotlightvariant.
'cause it was one of those likeSebastian Shaw gala ones.
It looked so good, man.
He actually kinda looks likeyou, to be honest with you.
That, that part particularspotlight looks like you.
Okay.
Fortis words, this is a funlittle fact.
I don't know who was completelyobliterated playing Kri, but on

(59:24):
untapped, if you actually go to,like, to the, the deck, someone
was playing 300 games of Kori ata 14% win rate, at a cube rate
of negative five.
Like, like their eight cubessnapping with Kari and just
dying every what?
Every Friday

Cozy Snap (59:38):
Smash night.
They're just like, you know whatI can do?
Yeah.
Lose some cubes.
Let's, let's,

let's roll it.
Someone hard, donating aninfinite, but talk about
infinite Cozy.
One of the better segues intoInfinity Tron, you could have
asked for.
Wow.
By golly Cozy, this card, thisis something you came in at two
stars, two stars.
And somehow that seems high.
I came in at three and somehowthat seems even higher.
Cozy.
This card completely fell on itsface.

(01:00:06):
And it's funny because when Iwas playing it, it felt awful
everywhere except Surfer.
I was like so surprised.
I'm like, how is this actuallyworking in Surfer?
And I remember texting you, Iwas like, you're right dude.
It actually works in Surfer andthen it got buffed and it still
is not being played anywhere.
Like it's just what a poo poocard, man.

Cozy Snap (01:00:24):
It's just funny how like, I don't know.
I feel like.
Spider-Man was released todaywith like, in a, a really bad
ability.
We'd find a way to cope about it'cause it's Spider-Man and like,
maybe he'll be, he'll be good.
And so, like, I feel like, youknow, you look at like Elixir
and you're like, trash one, onestar.
But like, we wanted to like getthis card more.
But I, I didn't wanna let my, mypersonal feelings for how cool

(01:00:47):
the character is affect how goodand consistent I think it was
gonna be.
So I, I, I called it a fun card.
It's fun.
But it's very inconsistent andif you like losing, it's not
fun.

Alexander Coccia (01:00:58):
Yeah, I was gonna say, dude, you, it's not
even that fun bro.
Like we're just, we're reallycoping now.
Buddy out.
It

Cozy Snap (01:01:02):
was cool when it came out.
Yeah, it's, it's bad.

It's a bad

Cozy Snap (01:01:05):
club.

Yeah, it's running a 43% win rate right
now.
43 on tap.
So bad.
43%.
And that's post buff dude.
Like what are we Doing's bad.
It's not, it has a 4% popular,so it's not seeing a lot of
games Admittedly.
The decks are awful though.
Like it, it was, there wasattempts to play it in hella,
there was attempts to play itand just, just, just sucks.
It just sucks.
Like, I don't know what else tosay.
I think the key problem with it,and I'll come back to this, I

(01:01:27):
said it during like the, eventhe OTA spiel I had was that it
just, if you're gonna committurn five to Infinity Ultron,
you're also committing turn sixto Infinity ultron.
Those stones have to carry theweight.
Of what a magneto does or what aDoctor doom does, they have to
carry the weight of, oh, I'mcommitting my turn six to
playing two of these damnthings.

(01:01:48):
They don't do that.
There are two of the stones thatare complete garbage Infinity.
Trons power's fine.
The drone thing's fine.
Doubling his power's fine.
All that's fine, just the moveone and whatever.
They need to be better and untilthey're better.
This card is absolute garbage.
Thankfully, that's a text changeaway.
And they're gonna make thatchange because I think you don't
invest that much effort inmaking a card like this, even if

(01:02:10):
it's not the season pass card.
And having it be as po as it is

Cozy Snap (01:02:12):
a lot of knobs to adjust on infinity char, which
is always a good thing for acard, means it has that much
better of a chance to getboosted in an OTA.

Oh, there's no question about it.
And that takes us to our nextcard of the season, which, we
both said was our five star funcard, but we, we suspected that
Goliath was gonna have a highermeta impact.
We came in at four and a halfand in our conversation, which I
listened back to, we, webasically wanted to give it five
stars, but we said we werecommitting to the Goliath route

(01:02:41):
as being the, the best card ofthe month, so to speak.
So.
Shame, shame on us, I guess, butwhat Act Goth ended up being
great for what it's worth,right?
We're not completely off there,but Strange Supreme.
And I think what really sold ushere was the trailer.
We, we saw what it was doing andwe're like, hell yeah.
But here's what's fascinating,Cozy.
You have one deck that just gotfigured out and this, this is a
great point you brought up onyour side.

(01:03:02):
Actually, sometimes you justneed one deck on aggregate in
the last seven days postInfinite, you would be surprised
to know that Strange Supreme isrunning a lower win rate.
Captain Carter, it's running a49% win rate at a 20%
popularity, but very recently,over the last several days, a
Thanos based shell is running a57% win rate and is gaining in

(01:03:27):
popularity.
So next week.
We're gonna be talking aboutStream Supreme with a very
different Sta profile as aparticular deck takes hold
stream.
Supreme is extremely popularright now, and it's just kind of
catching its legs underneath it.

Cozy Snap (01:03:40):
Yeah, I was on Twitter and the, I just saw a
picture the other day and it'slike the Spider-Man, like
everywhere I go, I see his faceand it's Danson Supreme.
It's it's starting to take windfast, man.
Word travels fast in Snap andyeah, that deck's starting to
really gain.
Gain wind.
But yeah, I think, I thinkstrange, definitely
Overdelivered, even on the fourand a half we gave it you know,
just cons definitely proveditself to be great.

(01:04:01):
They got Rhino out there tryingto give some a do'em as well.
You know, and we, we boththought Enos was gonna be a good
home and, and lo and behold,that's what happened.
I, it's, I don't know.
Does it feel like the overallcards, like all of the cards net
together have been worse thanseasons of like a year ago?

Yes.
Yes.

Cozy Snap (01:04:21):
I think by far I think there's a lot more duds,
bro.
Like way more duds.
Especially next

month, man.
Next month doesn't look great.
Year except for a coupleabsolute bangers.
Yeah.
This whole year.

Cozy Snap (01:04:30):
Yeah.
I think like it used to be like,oh, I could use this.
Oh, whoa.
Oh, cool.
And now it's like, if you playit here maybe and do this, then
I could see, and it does go backto what I just said, it's like,
you know, my episode where Isaid the longer snaps out, the
more tight these things get.
And it it's, it's tough.

Yeah it is.
And strange Supreme though.
I think part of the reason whythe win rate is fluctuating is
'cause I'm playing againststrange supreme players.
Yeah.
And they're not playing Cosmos.
I'm like, buddy, what do you do?
Like you can't have a 22 powertwo drop sitting there.
To get, just to get clubbedbyers like, you know, it's
coming and because some do playsome do play Cosmo I'll punch it

(01:05:08):
out early.
I don't care.
It's often over 10 power by liketurn four, you know what I mean?
It doesn't matter.
Well, but you bring it back withelixir boom than Elix.
I was like, bro, you

Cozy Snap (01:05:18):
just, you just made a cell case for Elixir.
There it is.
Strange Supreme Elixir Day.
I cell

phone, classic cell phone right there.
But yeah, I think StreamSupreme's probably ultimately
the card of the month.
Yep.

Cozy Snap (01:05:28):
No

question.
It's, it's Cozy and and what isnot gonna be part of the month.
But honestly, I had fun withhydration.
Stomper an absolute thirst.
Quencher, I gotta tell you youknow, hydration stomper
ultimately was putting up goodstats for me in my testing with,
I was regularly getting it tolike 10 power, 11 power, 12
power sometimes as a three cost,a 3 10, 3 11.

(01:05:52):
Like, that's insane.
But it kind of made me realize Idon't like playing move and I
don't wanna play move.
Every time I play move, I'mlike, I don't wanna play this
garbage.
Like I don't, you know what Imean?
I just, yeah, I think a lot ofpeople agree with me.
'cause despite its power, itstill only has a 13% popularity
and it's running just a hairunder 50% win rate.

Cozy Snap (01:06:10):
I feel like too, whatever we ranked it was just
throwing out the window.
'cause we didn't know there'sgonna be three new cars That
drastically changed the way thatthat card even played.
Like, it, we, we took intoaccount a lot of what we had and
there's three new cards that,you know added to it.
But yes, I.
I see.
I like move though.
Especially with where it justdepends what I'm doing when I'm

(01:06:31):
playing Snap though, you knowwhat I mean?
It depends like where I'm at,what I'm doing.
If, and most of the time Snap islike a very quick game, right?
So it's like a lot of timepeople don't wanna get in and be
like, man, I, you know what Iwanna do right now, so I'm
calculus.
So like that, like thattypically is not the, the game
that Snap has created to be.
I liked him.
I think it was, I think it was aI think he went above my
expectation.

He's definitely better than people
are gonna think, like give himcredit for, he's very much in
line with what speed is.
Like.
Speed is just a very card.
Yeah, it's comparison.
Good card.
That a good comparison is notsexy and that's what hydro,
hydro stomper is.
And honestly, hydration stompergoes well above what speed's
power levels are like.
'cause with silk and stuffyou're way above and silk is a
good static card as a two five,right?
Yeah.
I started at 4.5, drifted tofour.

(01:07:12):
I ended up at four stars.
Four you ended at three.
I ended up at four, so I gavehim a four.
And honestly I think I'll, ifyou're a move player, he feels
like a forecast.
You had

Cozy Snap (01:07:21):
him at

two for the

Cozy Snap (01:07:22):
month though, right?
I feel, I feel like you had him,you wanted to stick to your
guns.
Do that.
No, didn't Alex Kocher wildtake?
You didn't.
Okay.
Alright.

Oh, no.
For the final rankings?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
We will talk about that.
You want, you wanna just get ridto it?
I need to hear it do rankings,what we actually rank things at.
Okay.
Here's the rankings guys.
Alex's rankings for the priormonth.
Goliath had won Hydra Stomper attwo Strange, Supreme at three.

(01:07:49):
Agent Carter at four, Khoi atfive, infinity Ultron at six.
And dumb dumb Duggan, if youremember him, we actually
ranked, I ranked him dead lastand he just disappeared, but
dumb, dumb was part of therankings.
Cozy Snap came in number one,Goliath.
Number two, strange Supreme dubCozy on that one.

(01:08:13):
Number three.
Captain Carter.
Number four.
Khoi.
Yeah.
Number five.
Dumb, dumb Duggan.
I remember that.
Yeah.
And number six, infinity.
Ultron.
Dead last.
Cozy.
I'm gonna give you the no on thedump on this one.
Dumb dumb.
He's okay.
Who?
Dumb.
Dumb.
Where?
Where'd he even go?
I even got like a notificationon my phone.

(01:08:34):
It was like, dumb dumb, just gotreleased into into Series four
dumb.
I'm like, what are you talkingabout?
They always know, bro.

Cozy Snap (01:08:39):
Toxic doxy too.
I hate that card.

Fun fact.
I unlocked Toxic Doxy, playedher once, saw the animation,
said, that's dumb.
This card sucks, and neverplayed her again.
Played her.
Her exactly one single game.
Got a

Cozy Snap (01:08:49):
special spot for her.
Right next to King y tree, justright there, just hanging out.

Lasher two.
I'm sure you've played manyLasher

Cozy Snap (01:08:55):
games.
I love lasher.
You watch your tongue.

You absolutely lasher's.
Probably honestly a good cardthat no one's playing.
I'll be honest with you.
For sure.
I

Cozy Snap (01:09:02):
think so.

That actually is a perfect transition into our
series four review.
We do have a couple cards herethat we're gonna bring.
Now Cozy and I did not rankthese cards nor star them'cause
we didn't know they were comingout.
We had no idea they were comingout, so like, they kind of just
fell on us.
So that's okay.
So Toxi doxy, we're gonna startwith this was the high voltage
card.
Wanna shut out Second dinner formaking high voltage a fun mode.

(01:09:24):
Somehow feel like a grind bymaking toxi doxy a little too
deep to get the fact that somany Marvel Snap players saw
Toxi doxy and then decided notto play high voltage because
the, there was like, too muchgrind is crazy to me guys.
Make it easier to unlock the newcard.
Every decision does not have tobe about extracting money from
the player.
This card should have beeneasier to get.

(01:09:44):
It's garbage.
It should just been ineveryone's collection.
Come on guys.
Let's smarten up on that talkDoc, you're running 80, I'm not
even making this up.
29% win rate at a 2% popular 29.
It's so bad.
29%.
It's so bad.
I'm not making it up, dude, it'sso bad.
Post infinite

Cozy Snap (01:10:01):
last seven days.
It's, yeah, o that's not that'snot what some would consider
meta.
But what is meta?
I don't know if they meta, butwhat, what'd you think about
some of these new cars?
Man, they're not bad.

Yeah, they're not bad at all.
Like so let's talk about bat.
Oh my gosh, I'm gonna getroasted.
I think it's Brock the Leaper,

Cozy Snap (01:10:21):
Brock the Leaper.
When a card moves fo in gameplus two power is a one two.
I love this card, man.
As a one.

I think this is card stick.
I think it's awesome.

Cozy Snap (01:10:28):
I think this, I think this is what move needed.
It needed something that you canplay cheap on curve.
That wasn't a reactionary car,like the iron fist move and
stuff.
This thing could get.
I mean this, this is a greatone.

Cost cart fantastic.
It's a phenomenal one Cost car.
I was getting get to like eightpower regularly.
Yeah.
It's crazy.
And not to even mention the factthat Hydro Stomper is feasting.
'cause now, like it's movingalongside stuff.
Right.
Craven loved it.
'cause it was like two cartsmoving into a craven location.
It was, it's, it was bouncingall over the police.
It was awesome.
It was like, it is a greatscaling one drop for move.

(01:11:01):
Not that the scream decks neededit, but now it makes sense as to
why they actually Nerf screammore.
'cause they were releasing, theywere shadow releasing Batra
Scream Captain America, SamWilson both got nerfed so that
Batra could live.

Cozy Snap (01:11:14):
If that, if Bera was Ara was a a regular season card,
we would've loved it.
I think it's fine.
Like it would've been a fineseries five.
We would've been like, okay, butit it's not, and that's what's
even better.

Yeah.
You know what?
I'll give him credit.
They released a series four cardthat like is not toxic.
Doy, this is a little legit.

Cozy Snap (01:11:29):
29%.
Yeah.

Yeah.
Well, like, let's be honest.
Like if, if if Bat Rock,whatever, whatever his fri name
is, apparently he's George St.
Pierre in I didn't realizethat's who it was in the MCU.
Oh, okay.
So he just did, he did a fightscene with Captain America at a
couple points, but whatever.
This is a legit card.
I think it's legit series four.
It's a really fair series fourcard.
Actually, for the most part, theseries four cards that were

(01:11:53):
dropped are relatively legit.
This card in some shells runningupwards of a 55 to 56% win rate
in screen-based decks alongsideHydration.
Stomper overall running a 51%win rate at a 13% mo popularity.
This might be the most impactfulseries four we've seen in a
while.
Probably going back to Moby andMobius.

(01:12:13):
Moby and Mobius probably had thegreater penetration, but then it
got nerved right away.
So I don't know how I feel aboutthat, but yeah.
Roc the Leaper is a definitewin, and that's gonna take us to
Topaz.
Topaz is like Zorn, except it'llbasically send any card that you
play into it, into the middle.
Notably, what's important aboutthat, unlike Zorn, Topaz will

(01:12:34):
send Dagger.
It'll send human torch.
It'll send Vulture, it'll sendanything you play into the
center that you play.
Unfortunately, Zorn can do both.
Yeah, Zorn does both.
That's right.
Zorn has the disruption side.
TOPA is only running a 5%popularity.
46% win rate according to onetapped right now, a little on
the low end.
It made the bounce move decksworse.

(01:12:56):
Those bounce move decks that runTopaz for those interested are
running a 48% win rate.
They're much higher withoutTopaz Topaz shells with Heim
Doll and Spider-Man 2099,currently cooking at about a 48%
win rate.
This might be a situation Cozy.
Were the decks that we'recooking with Topaz suck.
They, they just suck.

Cozy Snap (01:13:15):
Yeah.
And I think Topaz is a greatanchor card for the future.
I think that, like move now andforever moving forward has like
a lot of good staples that canreally bring it to the next
level.
It's a bummer that I feel likemove.
You have to invest in so manycars that have it be a relevant
archetype compared to otherslike patriot or something.
But yeah, I feel like.

(01:13:36):
This will age.
This is our classic age, likefine wine card because all of
these are really, well, most ofthem because of what can come in
the future.
Any good move card from here onout, can you utilize that and,
and, and, you know, profit,

this might be a hot take.
I really like to paths.
Yeah, I do

Cozy Snap (01:13:52):
too.
I thought to Paths was

a good card.
I'm not a, I'm not necessarilymove player.
I was playing and I was like, I,I actually like this card a lot.
I tried some cope stuff where Iwas playing like Topaz, and then
I would play so Topaz on three,and then I would play Hercules
mid and then like human Torchinto the Topaz so it would like
move and then bounce.
I thought that was kind offunny.
The thing I like about Topazspecifically is the fact that

(01:14:14):
it's always going mid, similarto what Grandma does.
It allows you to combo withGhost Spider so that you can
reset back in the Topazlocation, for instance, and then
Heim all afterwards.
It was a fun card.
I, I almost was while I wasplaying it.
It almost made me think thatlike, I think part of the
problem with move is I don'tknow if the three location
system for Snap just makes movefeel like, like fish in a

(01:14:36):
barrel.
Like I just wonder if moveitself will always feel so
unbelievably constrained.
Yeah, and I wonder if too muchfocus on move right now is I
have a dagger that's 30, I havea human torch that's 96.
Like every card that comes outreaching to the stars makes

Cozy Snap (01:14:54):
draft.
Mode less consistent because noone, no one's gonna want move
cards in their deck.
I mean, like cards that canmove.
Yes.
Move base cards.
No, you don't wanna want a topazin your deck in a draft mode.

I know.
What are you gonna do with that?
Like night crawls fine, butTopaz, no.

Cozy Snap (01:15:11):
What do you think of so are you gonna go bat, bat
Rock then Lopez?

For sure.
I think Bat rock is, or batra.
I don't know how I'm supposed tosay this.
Whatever.
No matter what we say, we'rewrong.
Roc the leaper is number one,Topaz is clear.
Number two.
And then we have fan Fay whofour seven activate cards in
their location.
Move.
Right.
I don't like this card.
Would you like, if it was onreveal running of 45% win rate,

Cozy Snap (01:15:38):
would you like

if

Cozy Snap (01:15:39):
it was on

Reveal?
On Reveal?
Good question.
I actually think it's, I wouldlike, I think it's okay.
As in activate.
I think it would've been cool ifwe moved all the cards, not just
the locations cards.
Maybe that's too strong.
That's just a better heim doll.
Yeah, well, no, it's activateHeim doll to the left than Heim
doll can.
No.
To the right.
And then Heim Doll can send themleft.

(01:16:01):
You've got like a shimmy.

Cozy Snap (01:16:02):
It's way too good for a forecast.
Slide to the left.
Slide to the right.
Yeah, I, I just hate most highcost activates.
I think I just end up not likingwhat they could do.
Four seven's a respectable statline.
Don't get me wrong.
And you could go well abovethat, obviously with the move
mechanics.
It's the one I like the leastthough.
Yeah, I could, I

could say that the most.
Oh, by far it's the worst.
Like, without a question, it's,it's not, it's okay, but like,
put it this way.
I had these cards in a deck andI was playing move.
I'm like, I'm not having fun,man.
Like, just, I, I have aheadache.
This sucks.
How we doing, man?
I could just put, I could takeRoc and put'em in a scream deck
and just clap cheeks.
Why would I do this?
Why am I giving myself aheadache?

(01:16:42):
Playing Marvel Snap playing fanFay and Topaz Topaz.
Actually, I, I didn't mind, Ididn't mind Topaz at all.
Pretty syner, but fan fail.
I'm like, bro, I just don'twanna play this.
Agree.
Like, I don't wanna play thiscard.
Yeah.
Hard to agree there.
He says, maybe it's just not forme.
Maybe it's just me.
But anyways, yeah, that, thatpretty much does the series four
cards, Cozy.
And that's gonna take us to theSnapchat mailbag, my friend.

(01:17:03):
And there was, oh my gosh, Cozy.
There was some absolute bangerquestions this week.
Okay.
Banger questions, including onefrom Effie who said.
Why does Alex look like Mrs.
Nesbitt from Toy Story?
That was my favorite.
Cozy.
I'll let you explain.

Cozy Snap (01:17:17):
Yeah.
Alex told me before we startedthe podcast stuff, he is like,
Hey, Cozy, would you mind if Iwore this?
This is how I feel comfortable.
And I'm like, you can wearwhatever you want.
And, and now he said, I can'tbelieve.
He was like, can I wear thisonce a month?
And I was like, yeah, you can.
A like you fly peacock.

This is all fake news.

Cozy Snap (01:17:36):
Is it?

There's tons of people that actually don't
understand why I was dressed inall pink.
That's what's kind of funnyabout it, because you want

Cozy Snap (01:17:41):
to,

why are you being so difficult?
Let them know that the, the betthat was staged.

Cozy Snap (01:17:45):
I'll explain it guys.
It, Alex lost a bet.
He is a man of his word.
If Alex is one thing, he is aman of his word.
And at the time he didn't knowit would come full circle.
In said bets.
But if he was wrong about hisZelda bet about Super Smash, if
it was in 64, he would wear pinkand the man delivered.
And not, not only did hedeliver, but he went with an
extra salt and pepper on top andgave us the headband.

(01:18:09):
And I thought the Miss Nesbittthing was spot on.

Yeah.
So unfortunately Zelda and Sheikare not on N 64 Smash Brothers.
No.
And as a result I had to pay theprice and we thought it'd be
actually funny to not

Cozy Snap (01:18:21):
say anything and not address it one time while we
were shooting last time.

Yeah.
We wanted to go for like thepure everyone.
Just be confused.
Why is Alex wearing all pinkwith a, you know, pink flower in
his hair?
Right.
It just iactually think it waskind of funny.
But, but yeah, he, I am a man ofmy word.
Just like Cozy would've had tohave deleted his channel if I,
if he was wrong.
But he was confident, damnit, hewas confident and he was
correctly confident.
Michael and his D comes in witha great statement that reads,

(01:18:47):
love the general video game talkguys.
Keep it coming.
Oblivion and Expedition 33 areincredible.

Cozy Snap (01:18:53):
Yeah.
Expedition 33 could win game ofthe year.
I think it's like a, to me it'slike a nine of 10.
It's almost perfect.
Which is really good.
Really good for the, yeah, I'vebeen playing

it quite a bit.
When I have a, when I have achance I'm like, probably four
hours in, four hours in or, soI'm liking it.
I, and I don't play those typesof JPG, like turn based.
Battle type things and I'm likeold and slow.
I don't, I'm not good at paringand dodging and stuff like that,
but I'm like legit having fun.
Like I'm like this, the story'sgreat.
The voice acting really standsout to me as being

Cozy Snap (01:19:22):
How many games in your STEAM library do you not
play?
Dude, I'd have to look it up.
I have like

1400 games in my Steam library.

Cozy Snap (01:19:29):
That's so crazy.
Have you opened Oblivion?
I don't play any of'em.

Have you opened Oblivion since?
Dude, I, so what happened was isI got outta the sewers.
I ran into one dungeon, and thenI just have not played since I
knew it,

Cozy Snap (01:19:41):
I knew it.

Have you been playing?
Yeah, of course I have.

Cozy Snap (01:19:44):
I do like one mission a day.
There's missions in oblivion.
Yeah.
You know, I, I wander off, I dowhat I need to do, and then I
like, there's, this guy wantedme to stay in his house because
he thought people were breakingin.
Ends up at the ship dock guy.
Was hiring these guys and theywere going in after hours,
taking all his stuff.
So you stay the night there.
They come in, I cut theirthroats dead.

(01:20:06):
I got some money for it.
They only gave me fur top, so Iwas

dark, fast.

Cozy Snap (01:20:11):
I mean, that's, that's crazy.
That's how I, that's how Ilived.
But then I utilized the glitch.
I was behind the desk.
They couldn't get there, so Iwas just like firing arrows at
them and they were like, Hey,hey there, I killed them all.

You know what?
I gotta find out.
Like, I dunno if this stillhappens, but the OG oblivion.
You would like sneak behindsomeone, take him out, and then
a guard from like, like 45.
Yep.
Like, like literally 45 blocksaway the name of the law would
charge.
I'm like, bro, there's no

Cozy Snap (01:20:38):
way you

saw that.

Cozy Snap (01:20:39):
Get outta here with that.
My main question is Mico withhis dough.
Is it dough like money or doughlike Pillsbury?
DOH

pills.
It's Pillsbury dough.
Yeah.

Cozy Snap (01:20:50):
Sounds.
It's Pillsbury.
Love it.
Okay.
Great stuff.

Next question comes from a Ram Bros and it
reads A three five Rhino thatremoved a location would be the
best generic three drop in thegame.
People underestimate howpowerful that effect is.
Well then so be it.
He was bad forever.
Make him great.
That's my take as well.
Make Rhino great.
Damn it.
Come on.
Just I get it, Kate.
They want the location variance.

(01:21:16):
Lot of locations suck.
I wanna get rid of them.
Inception is God here.
Cozy is trying to help you.
Alex, he's doing the Lord'swork.
Listen to the man.
He won't.
And that comes from cyber suit.
He won't do it.
I don't know why

Cozy Snap (01:21:27):
he won't do it, but he won't watch the movie.

My wife said she'll watch it with me.
I just don't know where to findit.
It wasn't on Netflix when Ichecked the camera.
I'll pay for it.
Just find it.
Just find it.
Just find the movie.
I think it's on mostly.
I saw it on Amazon, but it costme like$9.
I was like, I'm not gonna writethis for nine.
I give.
No, I don't want your$9.

Cozy Snap (01:21:44):
I'll give you$11.

No, 15

Cozy Snap (01:21:48):
I.
I draw the line at 13

says 13 was the line that That's the line.
Okay.
I'm gonna try and get toinception and I do appreciate
everyone, the 45 comments thatdid thoroughly explain which
order I was supposed to watch.
The MCU the best part aboutthat.
None of the comments were thesame.
Yeah, I

Cozy Snap (01:22:05):
know.
Classic

everyone suggested different.
Like, I was like, come on there,there was a top voted one that
was like, this is the definitivelist on what you're supposed to
be watching.
Somehow already screwed it up.
'cause after Daredevil seasonone, you're supposed to watch
Jessica Jones, season one Jones.
Yep.
And I will tell you that it is,I do remember in Daredevil them
mentioning Jessica Jones byname.
One of'em was like, oh, I havea, someone who I work with,

(01:22:26):
Jessica Jones.
She looking into this you love.

Cozy Snap (01:22:28):
It's a very like stand standalone series you
could

watch.
Okay.
Good to know buddy.
Good to know.
And we're gonna end the Snapchathere with one final statement.
This one.
Many comments on?
Many comments on Trevor stated,I never thought I would hear
Alex tell Cozy.
You clapped my cheeks with thelittle doggy.
I'm a lot.
I'm at a loss for words.

(01:22:53):
Truly.

Cozy Snap (01:22:54):
I see.
This is like when my nieces say,can I listen to your podcast?
I have to tell them no becauseof you.

It's not my fault, man.
I didn't, I'm referring to thegenerous magic card.

Cozy Snap (01:23:04):
Generous pup.
It was a two, two, yeah, it wasgood.
It was getting

counters like crazy.
That's the little dog.
Alex only played magic with meone time.
Dig.

Cozy Snap (01:23:11):
And now he's too busy for me watching Inception.

How?
How dare you, you, you, youblame me for not coming to
Magic, the gather.
And he didn't call me back.
Don't invite me to,

Cozy Snap (01:23:19):
yesterday he called me guys on the road and he is
like, and I called him back andI was like, I dunno.
Five minutes late.
He's like, Hey, I'm busy.
I'm doing something like, can Icall you on my way back home?
I was like, yeah, man, I'm here.
Never called.
He's

literally lied.
You're making this up.
You didn't call me back.
You said you would.
I did call you back.

Cozy Snap (01:23:34):
No, no, no.
We talked, we talked on thephone yesterday.
Yeah.
But then after that I was like,call me on your way back home.
Let me know how you did.

Oh, I didn't hear that part.
Oh, you didn't hear?
Oh wait, I did.
No, you did.
Oh, no.
I forgot to call you back.
Yep.
I waited.
I actually did nothing the rest

Cozy Snap (01:23:48):
of the day.
Just sat on a rock outside on ahighway.

You're like that, that that meme where the
guy's like staring at the emptypool, like looking into the
distance at the swing set.
That was me.

Cozy Snap (01:23:57):
You were the swing set never came.

Totally.
I'm so sorry.
I promise to call you.
You're not forgiven tomorrow.
No, I don't want

Cozy Snap (01:24:06):
you call anymore.
Guys, thank you so much forcoming to a, another great
episode here.
We're glad to be here.
Yet another month and week forthe Snapchat as always guys,
tell the next one.
Happy snapping.

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