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Cozy Snap (00:00):
What's going on guys and welcome back to another
episode of the snapchat today.
We're going to be breaking downa red wing, the brand new card
coming to the game.
And it's it kind of exactly whatwe thought about this month,
pretty lackluster, but todaywe've got a lot of cards to talk
about.
If you're all about new cars andthis is the episode for you,
Alex and I going to be breakingdown the next two months of

(00:20):
cards coming to the game.
And there's some insanely funconcepts.
And this month might've been alittle boring, but the next two
months.
Look pretty damn exciting.
And we're going to talk aboutthat all today.
More on this episode of theSnapchat.
And as always, I am joined bythe one and only Mr.
Alex Kocha and Alex, I got tosay, my friend, I got a couple
of things to say, actually.
All right.
Well, you know, Hey, U S.

(00:41):
Canada, we know that.
People know that.
They come to the cast, they hearus, you know, not know things
from each other's countries.
But what we can both agree on iswhen they play each other in
hockey in one of the mostimportant expedition games of
all time, that the U.
S.
is on top, alright?
You guys might have the bestshooters in the world, but the
U.
S.
is on top.
Had to start there, had to bringit up, my friend.
My gosh, what, that was probablyone of the most legendary

(01:02):
matches I've ever seen.

Alexander Coccia (01:04):
It was incredible.
Yeah, I was watching it with mywhole family all the kids were
together three tillies in nineseconds, which is absolutely
insane.
You don't usually see that.
In terms of the fights, I thinkCanada won 2 1.
Miller took on a guy like 40pounds and like six inches
taller than him, so it wasn'treally a fair fight, but he gave
her.
But at the end of the day, onthe scoreboard, that's where the
States got us, and I thinkyou're right, man.
It's like, We have superstarsthat can, like, on paper should

(01:27):
be better, but your team playedbetter.
Straight up.
The defense on the states andthe goal tetting was absolutely
astronomical.
What, how was your weekend?
What'd you do?
It's funny, because, like,obviously it was Valentine's
Day, and I'm sure you did morethan I did, because I forgot.
My wife knew, though.
You forgot?
I didn't like forget, but like,okay, you

Cozy Snap (01:43):
forgot.

I've done this before, you know, my history of
forgetting important dates, thecozy nose personally on a level
that you guys wouldn't know alittle forgetful with important
dates, but my wife is is prettyforgiving on that sense.
Cause I've been doing it sincelike, I don't know, 2011 or so.
And we got married.
So it's like, it's just, it'snot, you do though.
What I do though is every oncein a while, I'll show up
randomly.
I'll go to Costco and I'll getlike a huge thing of flowers.

(02:05):
I'll just, for no reason, it'snot Mother's Day, it's no, it's
no regular day.
And it's just, boom, she comeshome and there's flowers there.
She's like,

Cozy Snap (02:12):
makes up

for

Cozy Snap (02:12):
it.
What'd you do for Valentine'sDay?
What'd you get her?

Cozy, this is the problem.
I, I, that's

Cozy Snap (02:16):
Dude, like 1 800 FLOWERS or nothing, you know,
not a, not a massage, not aCocha Experience Cocha Massage,
Mellow Exp No, nothing.
Not even a, not even a coupon.

Coupon?
Yeah, I did get coupons for likeHarvey's in the mail, but I
don't think she doesn't want

Cozy Snap (02:32):
a burger from, Harvey's the burger place?
Yeah, I think you guys, I thinkwe have Harvey's.

Oh yeah, you guys don't

Cozy Snap (02:37):
have Harvey's?
I think, isn't that Carl's Jr.?
Isn't it the same thing?
That's insulting, but no.
It's not.
It's like, basically

like, they, they make it your way, man.

Cozy Snap (02:45):
Nah, I don't know.
I think you've talked aboutHarvest before.
Yeah, I, listen, Valentine'sDay, I actually started my OTA
video.
It was on the Thursday, and Iwas like, it's your last day to
get flowers.
It's the first thing I said.
I was like, don't forget it.
Go out and get them.
I, I love going to, to some shopon Valentine's Day and seeing
like all the lost dads and orlovers just out there trying to

(03:06):
find the 50 flowers.
I swear inflation is the mostnoticeable on flowers, by the
way.
Like roses used to be like 10bucks and I had to get, it was
like 40 and I get this stupidheart because I know my wife
doesn't even want the flowers.
Like she, she does, but she doesit.
She wants the act of the flower.
She doesn't care about theflowers themselves.
So I get this like they're bentinto a heart shape thing.

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I'm like, that's kind of cool.
It's like an extra 20 But I'mlike man, I could bend these
myself.
I'm like, okay, so I get thething right and it comes to the
vase That's the most importantpart, right?
Cuz I'm not bro when it comes toflowers I put in a cutting them
and put them in the vase likethat's our suck Right, but I get
the vase dude as I'm I get alittle balloon, right?
I'm trying to go above andbeyond a little bit So, I'm
setting up the balloon in thekitchen.

(03:51):
This is at night, by the way,because there's nothing I love
more than Thursday goes around,right?
She wakes up and then thestuff's there, because it's the
idea of like, when the hell didhe go?
How did he go?
Right?
Brother, it's like 1 a.
m.
I just finished editing somevideo and I'm putting the whole
thing together and as I tie andget the balloon ready, my elbow

(04:11):
hits the vase with the floweroff of my kitchen island.
And I watched this beautiful.
Beautiful art going to 10million pieces, right?
So not only did I wake my sonup, okay, I have 10 billion
pieces of glass on the floor atthis point, right?
No shoes on, don't know what todo.
It's pitch dark almost at thispoint too, because have you

(04:33):
broken glass, right?
You got kids.
I don't know about you, but Ipanic.
I'm like, there's going to beone.
There's gonna be one that Iforgot and I'm over at the at
the, at the hospital.
Long story short we didn't haveanother vase.
I, I kind of just popped it in acup.
It didn't have the same, sheliked it more because of the
story, but it was a bit it wassad.

(04:54):
That was sad Alex.
And I stepped on some grass.
I gotta make

sure my wife does not listen to this intro.
Because you're like lamentingover how hard you worked for
valentine's day or as my answerwas literally like bro.
I don't know.
I forgot

Cozy Snap (05:04):
I'm gonna make sure i'm gonna make sure she does
anyway.
Happy valentine's day for allyou guys that celebrated out
there we've got ourselves apretty good video to talk about
today.
We've got a lot of new cardsWe've got an ota which we're not
gonna actually break down alltoo much.
We'll probably talk about adamwarlock I think that'll be the
main one To break down.
That'd be a fun one to breakdown.
We know what we're talking aboutover here.
Alex, what are we talking abouton your side of the Snapchat

cozy on my side of Snapchat, where do we
talk about Thunderbolt Ross andwhether or not he's good for
your decks?
A spoiler alert.
He might not necessarily be, butwe'll talk about them in full
review.
We'll also be talking about cardmastery and whether or not it's
sus.
And then finally, as always ourSnapchat mailbag.

Cozy Snap (05:40):
All right, Alex, lots of cards to talk about today.
I'm actually pretty excitedbecause.
As I thought this month was whenwe started our in review series,
I just had a feeling this monthwas pretty lackluster, and
listen, bud, the reviews are inearly on the new Captain
America.
Not looking good.
I haven't seen it.
I can't judge on it.
Maybe you enjoyed it, people.
But they're not looking good sofar.

(06:01):
And it's kind of like thismonth's end card.
And I I want to be able to talkabout the new cards coming out.
A lot, but between Thaddeus andRed Wing here, it's a pretty
tough back to back week we'vegot it.
Now it did get updated and theOTA is now a 3 4, people, so do
remember that.
It's a 3 4.
And the first time this cardmoves, add a card from your hand
to the old location is what RedWing is going to do.

(06:25):
And, you know, I think there arecards that we talk about where
you gotta test it, maybe we cansee if it works, maybe see if it
doesn't.
You know, I think it to me alex,it's fairly obvious Just why I
think this car is not going tohit and it's a couple of reasons
and i'm not sure about you I'mgiving it a very low star.
Maybe a two even Even that Ithink is probably nice Mainly

(06:46):
due to the fact of we've seenthis where if cards cannot move
on their own, or they need somekind of vessel, usually that's
just such a slowdown, it's justnot worth it, especially with
how, outside of Madam Web, a lotof cards, you know, you gotta
play it in a certain order, andthen that means you have to get
those cards at the right time,and then, on top of that, you
have to have a card that you,you want in your hand that's
gonna play down, and so, you'vegot that wonkiness so that's a

(07:09):
big thing, but also even betweenthe stat line, And the nicheness
of the card has me right away.
You know, you asked me to startthis episode with the star
rating.
So I'm doing that for you.
I I'm just not feeling red wingas a card.
This is definitely a save monthfor me.

I would definitely agree with that.
There's a couple of things.
First of all, when they pre buffa card.
That tells you everything youneed to know at 3 3.
This car was probably absoluteunmitigated filth like
impossible to play Yeah, he gaveit 3 4 and you know what the
problem is is that you're right.
It doesn't move on its own So itdoesn't have like the rock and
Groot automatic kind of likehey, I can move when I want You

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don't have that agency with it.
It has to it requires a secondpiece and that second piece
you're not always guaranteed todraw into and Like, okay, so,
right off the top, it's like,okay, well, you can Heimdall it.
Well, yeah, sure, but then,like, how do you make sure you
get Heimdall?
Are you actually gonna cope andput Thunderbolt Ross in a deck,
so that you can maybe draw intoHeimdall, so you can do a Red
Wing on Curve, and all thisstuff?
And then, like, it just doesn'tmake much sense.

(08:06):
I think you're absolutely right.
My heart of hearts says this isprobably a two star card.
I could see it in like one,maybe two decks, perhaps
touching that three star range.
And then it just cuts and thatdeck never sees play ever again.
It's not going to do enough tothose archetypes where it can be
played, where I think it'll beviable.
Although, the ability couldpotentially be strong.

(08:29):
It lacks agency on so manyfronts, right?
As you said, you got to have thecard in hand that you want to
pull, you got to pull that card,and you have to move it itself,
right?
So, There's a couple lines thatI'm interested in, but overall,
I am tentative.
So I'd go like a two and I couldsee a maximum three star.

Cozy Snap (08:44):
I don't even see I can't see a three.
I'll be honest, because how areyou supposed to get in your hand
something that you want to haveplayed out?
We've talked about Dracula dump.
I think that's the one placethat like maybe you can get this
to work out because you have alot of cheap ones that can move
in there maybe.
But is it going to take a slotof something else?
Or can the deck play the samewithout it?
Probably.
Like, I even was like going asfar as like, ooh, Phoenix Force,

(09:04):
okay, you destroy the Red Wing,then you have a car that can
move itself, so then you cankind of time it, and maybe get
some big stuff in your hand.
It's just so much that you'retrying to do when you have I
don't know, a Surtur deck, eventhough it got nerfed, but you
got that, which just plays bigpower, and big power's gonna
win, and it doesn't virtuallyhave a counter.
Like, or Doom, you know, 2099,you can just play, you don't

(09:25):
have to think as hard to getsomething that is pretty much
the exact same.
And so that's what worries meabout it.
I think it really boils down andwe've seen this time after time
after time that move is justit's on that fine line of if you
make it every time it moves itplays a card it's too good if
you you know you can't have itmove itself because probably

(09:47):
it's too good because cravensynergy and blah blah it move
has seen it Just so muchadversity against it as an
archetype in this game And if itever does have that You know
kind of chance to shine a littlebit in a deck then they kind of
address it pretty quickly Thatto me is usually the key
indicator of a card that's notgreat.
I think red wing is probablythat

Oh, you're right.
And I had some thoughts aboutlike, okay, like we, as you
mentioned, right, the fact thatit can only really do its effect
once, and that's probablyreserved because the effect is
somewhat powerful.
And if you're already able to doit over and over again, you
would be able to just pull downyour hand so rapidly, but you're
also taking up a lot of spacedoing that.
So I don't know how broken itis.
It's probably broken, honestly.
It got me thinking about SpiderMan 2099, which is, you know,

(10:27):
obviously a card that wouldbenefit from being able to proc
its effect twice, much likeRedwing would benefit from being
able to proc its effect twice.
However, I was thinking, okay,what if you have something like
a Spider Man 2099 down and youhave Redwing down and you
Heimdall?
So now you're getting two procsoff the Heimdall play.
You're getting the Redwingpulling, you're getting a
destruction from the Spider Man2099.

(10:48):
Individually, they might not beimpressive, but together that
might actually be.
A relatively powerful turn sixplay, especially considering the
Heimdall's now a 10 power card.
So it's like that's kind of whatgot me thinking a little bit.
I actually don't even thinkthat's probably the best line.
Like I don't even believe thatRedwing is a move card because
there's going to be few cardsthat want to be pulled down in a
move deck.
Like, okay.

(11:08):
Yeah, that works.
But yeah, okay.
Spider Man 29.
9 is destroying something.
But what's Redwing pulling?
Like in that kind of move list,you know what I mean?
Is it pulling an infinite?
Do you have an infinite in thatdeck?
For some reason, so it's like,that's where it kind of gets a
little suspect.
So I absolutely agree.
Yeah, I don't know.
I do have a couple of lines if Icould pitch to you that might be
worth it.

Cozy Snap (11:27):
Yeah.
I mean, yeah.
I mean, I'll, I'll say the onlyone that I liked was outside of
again, Dracula dump, but theonly one I like is, and again,
the deck built, it's like, okay,you have to kind of change your
mind from what she usually isplayed in, but just the two card
combo of madam web and then redwing at that alone.
Okay, because then you've gotthe agency to kind of move that

(11:48):
whenever you want to, right?
And then it, then you can maybedo something there.
And you can put that into mostdecks, but what deck does that
look like?
That's the thing.

So, I thought about this.
And I think you're right.
Because you can do a Madam Webon Curve on turn turn 2.
And then on turn 3, you can RedWing.
Turn 4, you could Frigga, right?
Bring a Red Wing back.
Move the first Red Wing.
Turn 5, play another Red Winginto Madam Web.
Right turn six move that redwing again So now you're
dropping two cards down But yourentire deck is revolving around

(12:19):
pulling cards out of your hand Iwas gonna say what's in your
hand

Cozy Snap (12:21):
to pull down at that point.
It's like, yeah, what are youtrying to pull down?
I just yeah, I don't even knowlike I get it if they made it
every time it moves It pulls acard might be too strong But
then they could almost stat itcorrectly to be around that So
if they made it a forecast thathappens so late in the games
Then it's not that big of a dealif they can do it every turn I
don't know like I feel like atthat point you could maybe do
some Kind of cool stuff of yankand stuff all over.

(12:42):
It's still very card dependent.
Maybe they tried that justdoesn't work.
I think it was supposed to bebalanced the first time, you
know, it was, yeah.
Yeah.
Listen, putting this next toThunderbolt Ross might be the
two worst cards to come backweek over week.
It is probably my review.

Yeah, it's, it's not good, but I also think
that they're intended to beplayed together.
Because Thunderbolt Rawstraddles into big cards that
Red Wing can pull.
And I think that's kind of wheretheir head was at.
That the consecutive weeks aresupposed to build off each other
to some degree.
Whereas prior, you had Red Wingsynergizing with Joaquin Torres
Falcon, right?
Because it had the bounce andbuff mechanic.

(13:17):
So I think they were trying tomake Red Wing a like a card that
was supposed to like synergizewith the other token cards or
the other spotlight cash cards.
And then they kept changing thedesign of it.
But yeah, no, I agree.
I think these are, these areweak weeks for sure.
Unfortunately.

Cozy Snap (13:30):
Well, we're gonna move because we have so many
cars to talk about let's move onfrom Red Wing I think both of us
would say that we're we'reprobably not crazy about the
car.
Do you have another line?
Did you have one more line youwant to throw out there?

I mean the only one that I think maybe I
would try and I might try on theopening day is an Electro Ramp
with Heimdall the reason why isbecause I think Electro Ramp is
interesting from a standpoint oflike Red Wing could be a backup
play is if you don't get yourramp.
I don't like that one Yeah.
Yeah.
I thought it was kind of cool.
Right.
So like you have Heimdall inthere and then like, you can
have other, some, and a coupleother big hitters.

(14:04):
And what's interesting is if youdon't pull the electro, you can
play the red wing down and your,your hand is going to be
designed to have chunks in it.
Right.
Because you're playing electro.
And I'm not quite a hundredpercent sure.
Like, am I doing the Corvusline?
Like we used to remember theCorvus ramp stuff?
That's another three drops orit's like, you're either getting
electro, you're getting a redwing or you're getting Corvus.
And you're going to be able tothrow down chunks.
You're going to be able to getthem out there.

(14:25):
The only challenge with Corvus,I think, would be if you get rid
of Heimdall, the Red Wing isuseless.
So that probably can'tultimately be in the deck.
But I've been trying to pen andpaper around that a little bit.
I thought it would be aninteresting take.
I don't think it's going to belike, Oh, look at this 60
percent win rate deck that gotcooked.
It's not going to hit that.
But I think it might work,maybe.

Cozy Snap (14:41):
Back in the day with like the old Doc Ock, Heimdall,
that actually could have been akind of a cool line.
You get like Doc Ock, you pullthe cars on one lane.
Red Wings on the other lane whenyou move them over, they're
stuck in that lane.
Now you have Doc Ock, you haveRed Wing and the other one.
Like, that could have been acool line, you know, but we
don't have a lot of stuff thatcan kind of work off the
Heimdall these days.
I mean, a couple things, notlike we don't have anything, but
that at least seems like it'llbe playable for content.

(15:03):
That seems like at least thestream's gonna be entertaining.
Yeah, seems entertaining.
OTA came, a lot of just powershifts for sure but hey man,
listen.
Thrilled, absolutely thrilled tosee Adam Warlock finally get the
love, and it took so long to getthis design, it took like a year
to get this design right, and itwas so simplistic, yet so good,
like I'm glad, at least it, itbrought together, you know, a

(15:26):
design that felt better for AdamWarlock, and it was just missing
like a line of text, which is sofunny to think about, right?
What do you think about newWarlock here?

I think it was funny that at the end of the
day, as you said, you come fullcircle with basically the
original text, which is somevery moderate like minor, but
significant modifications to theotherwise plus one.
I think that this card stillwould have sucked originally,
like in the opening days of betaand release, it still would have
been a bad card.
Right now, we have Rocket andGroot, which feasts with this

(15:56):
card, right?
You also consider the fact thatwith Sam Wilson, we have an
initiative granting card on turnone.
Right?
So, like, Adam Warlock lovesthat.
Like, we have tools today thatwe didn't have before to make
this card legitimately powerful.
Like, even just rocking andgrooving, man, it's nuts.

Cozy Snap (16:11):
Well, and just the fact that he, I, what I like
about it, too, is that he justapplies pressure.
So, like, he, he's gaining thatone each time, you know, if
you're not drawing that card.
And so it's like making thatlocation a little bit harder.
So like at the very least, I, Iremember we used to say, like,
even if Adam got you one card,he's like, he was worth that
play.
And now it's like, okay, if hecan get you that card, he's like
a two, three, it's like, allright, you know, that, that, if

(16:32):
you would have two, three draw acard, that's a, that's a great
card, right?
That's a good card to have.
So I, I think that this isactually an Adam that we can
play, feels great around that.
Really happy that they did that.
And overall, you know, pretty,pretty big win.
And then the OT addressed a lotof other big hitters that needed
to come down.
I think that was good, too.
I think, you know, obviouslydoing 2099, some of those other
cards were cooking a bit toomuch.

(16:53):
Those felt way more appropriatethan some of the other ones
we've had in the past.
Like dagger whatever comingdown.
It's like well, that was such asmall, you know small line I
just can't believe out of everycard in this entire freaking
game that adam warlock was theworst card of the game Some
weeks that that that cracks meup

something's got to be the worst, but it
doesn't surprise me that warlockwas that something else we've
mentioned about the ota2 is thebuff of a bunch of classics,
right?
Seeing sarah get a point sunspotget a point.
That was nice to see.
I was very happy to see a bunchof Classics get buffed and it's
gonna make the next These cardssuck.
Thumbnail that, you know, we're,we're running up on in the next
couple of weeks for theSnapchat, which is one of our go
to topics cozy.

(17:30):
What are we going to put on thethumbnail?
Now they're buffing all thecards.

Cozy Snap (17:33):
Mr.
Fantastic warlock.
I know at lizard though.
Lizard.
They were like, Oh, I buff it.
They were like, they were likewarlock.
Good.
Sarah.
Good lizard.
Leave them, leave them.
We got it.
We got to keep them in his, wegot to wait another six months
to get him good.
Well, listen, bud, we've got twoupcoming seasons.
This season, guys, might've beena bit of a dud, but we have the
next season, the prehistoricAvengers, which I think might be

(17:55):
one of the best new card seasonsthat we've had in a long time.
There were a lot of cool cardsin this season.
And then what if has a lot ofinteresting cards to like.
It listed pretty stale February,really exciting March and what
would be April.
So we're going to kick that off,talk about it.
These are subject to change.
I would say the ones coming inMarch already got their second
changes, so they probably feel alittle bit more locked in.

(18:16):
The April ones definitely, Ithink, are more ideas at this
time but always cool to see whatthey're cooking, what you might
want to save up for.
And I think by then or by.
The time these roll around we'rea gonna get serious drops.
So keep that in mind, but Bwe're gonna get Hopefully new
card monetization, right?
So our new card, we're gonna getnew card ways to get new cards
Hopefully by around one of theseseasons would be my hope at

(18:39):
least at least by April We'llhave to see now Alex did a video
on these.
This is the first time I'mlooking at these cards So you're
pretty much new on looking atthem outside of a couple ideas,
correct?

Yeah.
Yeah.
I just did a general overview ofthem.

Cozy Snap (18:53):
Okay.
Well, we're going to start withthe season pass card and I'm
actually pumped that out of allthe cards that we have to talk
about today I was like kind oflooking at which ones were going
to be the season pass card.
And I'm pumped that Agamotto wasthe one that they chose as the
season pass card.
So Agamotto guys I have some ofthese built in with the text on
screen.
Some of them I'm just going tohave to read.
This guy's got way too manycards, so we're going to just

(19:15):
read them out here.
He's a five 10.
Statline out the bat, you know,I think we're all pretty happy
with that game at the start ofthe game He's gonna shuffle for
ancient Arcana into your deck.
So you can you can think of itas spells, right?
He's gonna put four spells intoyour deck now They're not gonna
start in your hand kind of likeThanos so it's gonna make your
deck pretty thick But he's got alot of these spells.

(19:37):
So first off 510 Alex, obviouslynot bad But let's go and talk
about all the spells and theseare there's some wild ones man.
There's definitely some wildones here We'll go and start
with Temporal manipulation guysnow We have a brand new keyword
on these spells and it was onlya matter of time till we got
this new keyword to come to thegame And it's Banish.

(19:59):
So, Banish, from what Glenn hastold us, is not destroyed, it's
not discarded.
There is no way to get thisback.
Once it's banished, it is out ofplay.
And it'll be coming with thisseason, but also, he said
possibly on some older cards.
Which I, that seems superinteresting, because I was like,

(20:21):
what older cards would youbanish?
That one to me, they must haveto rework some stuff.
To make a card banishablebecause banish is a big penalty.
Obviously, there's no way to youknow to get it back which I
actually like I like somethingwith extreme power potential and
it's kind of a one time use,right?
These spells are designed justas that they have no power and

(20:43):
they cost different amounts Sotemporal manipulation is a one
cost zero power card On reveal,you're going to give Agamotto
plus three power.
Put him into your hand if he'snot in play.
So, right of the way, you cankind of get him into your hand.
I think that's great.
You can also give him the plusthree power.
For one cost, not a bad spell,Alex if I say so myself.
I'm going to kind of readthrough these and then we can

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talk about some of them.
The next one is the Winds ofWatoomb.
And this whole season's cool.
I mean, just, I know a lot ofthese from, like, Just marvel.
And so to see some of thesepowerful either gods or spells
mentioned.
Winds of Retreatment is a 2 0.
On reveal, afflict an enemy cardhere with negative 5 power and

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then you move it to the right.
And then obviously all thesehave after it, banish it.
So let's talk about those two atfirst, buddy.
Banishing and those two spellsto start, man.
Pretty good, strong start, yeah?

You know, it absolutely is.
Now, I have a quick question.
I don't know if you have theanswer to this, because I didn't
see Glenn's, he must haveanswered some questions that you
saw and I didn't, in like a Q& Aor something.
Now, in my head, Banish, Iagree, it's exactly what you
explained.
Does it also mean that the carddoes not occupy space on the
board?
Like, is it like an instant inmagic, or like, kind of like a
spell that just gets played andthen it disappears?
Like it does not occupy space onthe board?

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Yeah, there's no space

Cozy Snap (21:57):
on the board, and it's gone, gone, right?
So it's, it's like, there's noway to to get said card back,
there won't be a resurrect fromHela, nothing like that.
So yes, and it doesn't apply thespace.
And you're going to see that themost in one of the cards
mentioned here in a second.
But now temporal manipulation,cool for the hand, getting him
to the hand.
I thought this one was reallyinteresting because it's
essentially a 2 5 with the powerto move a card to the right too.

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Really cool disruption.
You know, listen, card space isgetting so hard to manage in
this game, and that's why I likethese banished cards, because
it's allowing you now to beusing your energy in creative
ways without having to occupyspace all the time.

Yeah, no, it is.
It's, it actually is pretty cooldisruption.
Like my head was like Galactus.
Like, can you imagine likeclogging a location or, you
know, throwing this over orsomething like that?
And then like, you know, beingable to Galactus that location
or removing a card from alocation, you can then Galactus
yourself.
It opens up two avenues forGalactus, which I think is
pretty interesting, but no, itdefinitely is a fascinating from
a disruption standpoint andbeing able to draw Agamotto with

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the, the first spell isactually.
Crazy like that is it's like areally plus three plus
guaranteed draw of the card thatlike is already a 510 That's
pretty awesome

Cozy Snap (23:07):
If I were to guess anything going down, it could be
he goes down from 510.
That seems a little strong Keepin mind though.
He's adding these cards to deck.
So he's really He's not fittingyour deck.
He's sticking that bad boy up,right?
Like he's making your other carsYes, but these cards are almost
worth drawing at that point,right?
And so Bolts of Balthok, BalBalth Bal Balthok.
I'm glad you read it before Idid.

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I wanted to make you read it.
Yeah, I'm gonna get, you knowhazed for that one.
But this is now a three cost, soit goes up a little bit.
You can abandon it, but this iswhere things get interesting.
On reveal, next turn you getplus four energy.
I mean, my God, out of three,that's a huge spell, man.
That is an awesome, huge spell.
And what's cool is all of theseare good.
Like, I love that.
There's not like a move a cardto the right.

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Kind of like Nico, like it'slike, man, these are added into
your hand, but you add thesewith some other just generic
good cards and.
We're gonna have ourselves apretty good deck, you know to
mess around with right?
And then let me read the otherone and we'll review these two
and then last but not least andthis is where it Makes sense
that they're not gonna Occupyspace in any capacity.
We've got the images of icon andThis is a four cost honor if

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you'll transform your othercards here into copies of the
highest power one So this willbe banished and the way I read
this is this won't betransformed, right?
So if you have three cards youplay this they're gonna all
change into your highest poweredcard And then this is gonna be
gone.
So there's gonna just be threeof whatever that might be It's a
four cost but that's some reallycool.

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I mean you you can attack Anylane with pretty big potential
here.
I think it's not the best one inthe bunch, but I think it's very
unique in what it can do.

Yeah.
I had this thought of likefilling mid or whatever with a
whole bunch of stuff.
And then like ramping out adoctor doing with wave and then
playing this and then justdooming like the whole board as
everything transforms, right.
Just doom bots all over theplace.
It's kind of silly, but I thinkit's funny.
So

Cozy Snap (24:59):
what I want to see, I'm going to go to morph become
a copy.
I'm transform.
We haven't seen a lot.
I think we have a couple oftimes.
Does transform let them

what's his name?
No, transforming that was addedfor Loki.
Yes.
To prevent the, the Quinjetsynergy.
Right?

Cozy Snap (25:12):
So, so does transform then.
Does it allow you to copy so ifthey all become an arrow do they
all get their own reveals?
You know what?
I mean or whatever.

Oh, i'm not sure man There's the words and
like the verbiage of cardssometimes like you almost gotta
just see because sometimesthey're even inconsistent with
each other Right.
We've had that in the past too,right?

Cozy Snap (25:32):
Well, what i'll say is this guy for a season pass
card seems like a must like amust a must add season But this
guy seems like a five star.
Yeah Yeah, this is a we need toget some money.
But also the new the new nico.
I mean, this is a veryFascinating card with limitless
potential.
And listen, bro, you combine itwith something like maybe King E

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Tree.
You combine them with somethinglike potentially even freaking
Mr.
Negative, Jane Foster, becausethey're all zeros.
Like, I just talked about havinglike a plug and play deck.
I mean, a Mr.
Negative Agamotto deck where youcan like get all these cards to
your head.
It seems like obviously King ETree is a bit coke, but it feels
like this is a card that doesfit with just about anything.

I don't think King Yuchi's Cope at all.
I think you're actually ontosomething because he's an
activate and you can pullexactly what you need when you
want it.
Like, I think that's prettycool.
Now, obviously, King Yuchi's notgoing to pull all of them.
He's going to pull one of them,right?
And so, like, you know, youdon't know what you're going to
get.
And some of the the effectsmight not necessarily be useful.
Like, if Agumon is already inyour hand and you pull the
Temporal one, yeah, you'regiving him plus three, but

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you're not getting him from thehand.
You're not kind of thinning yourdeck, as they say.
But no, definitely speaking fromfrom a season pass perspective,
this is probably going to beClose to a must buy because
there's going to be no, Oh, Idon't have Agamotto.
Who do I put instead?
Like, it's just, you don't playthat deck anymore.

Cozy Snap (26:49):
Next up is Esan, a 6'9 kind of looks like Ereshim's
cousin over here.
Yep.
Yep.
Very nice.
After each turn, put a card fromyour hand that didn't start in
your deck here.
And this is pretty interesting.
I know there was a prior versionof him that was better.
We're gonna talk about thisversion here.
This is what it looks like.
He's going to be here other thanjust the the nice stat line
there at 6'9 This seems okay.

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I think he comes out the sameweek as Agamotto, so I'm not
going to be playing him much,but I don't know, I think
there's some cool ways to getsome synergy here between Wiccan
and Wave and Luna Snow andJubilee.
Like, yeah, I don't know, and anAirship deck?
Like, he seems more fun than heseems like really good.

His original design, which I know you said
you didn't want to talk about,Had the legendary tag, which was
so fascinating, which I assumedwas you can only have one of in
a deck.
I think we talked about it inthe past.
It was so much more interestingthan this.
It's so sad.
Cozy, it's so sad.
But I think one of the reasonswhy they had to change it was
because I think the old version,I bet you there was like a
mathematical best version ofthat deck because it was just
pure math.

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Like, oh, just different powers,everything gets plus two.
Here's the deck, carbon copy it,get dubs, right?
But like, I don't know, man.
I don't think this, this is notnearly as good as the other one
was.
That's for sure.
It's not nearly as good.
I, I just, I think it's probablya Cope card,

Cozy Snap (28:05):
probably a Cope card.
I mean, you have you couldpotentially get them with
Agamotto, right?
You could, you could have allthe spells like whipping out and
going to his thing.
Yeah.
He definitely, out of all thecards we're going to talk about
today, this is probably one ofthe least interesting to me,
mainly because his stat line,like you gotta, it's almost like
Red Wing.
You have to find a way to get itout there.
Yeah.
Yeah.
You got to find a way to get itout there.
Then you have to hope there'sstuff in your hand for him to

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even pull.
If he was able to pull justcards from your hand.
That weren't you know, becausethey weren't allowed to start
there or whatever.
It didn't start your deck If itwas just anything in your hand
that he would pull down a littlemore interesting to cheat him
out But it's because there's somuch going on at play that I
think he's just like an erishfun card.

Yeah, it's tricky I'm sure there's going to
be ultimately like as we getcloser to like actually deck
building with them There mightbe a couple of places where he
might be able to perform, butgenerally speaking, it's a, he's
a shadow of his former self.
And that's kind of where likelooking at the data minds can be
soul crushing.
Cause perhaps when they'reexperimenting with stuff, they
experiment on the higher end ofwhat the power levels should be
of cards.
Like there's maybe a good chancethat the original Esau should

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not have come out because it wasabsolutely broken.
And as fun as it would have beenthe first two days, everyone
would have been miserable forthe next three weeks, begging
for a nerf.
Right.
And so I guess that's the otherside of it.

Cozy Snap (29:15):
So automotive is a five to me.
Would you say he's a five toyou?

Yeah, I think Agamotto is going to be a must
get.

Cozy Snap (29:20):
And Eason here, what are you giving him?

Oh man, it's like a 3 maybe.

Cozy Snap (29:25):
I see, I don't even know if I'd give him a 3.
I think he's giving me like a 2.
I think he's a gimmick card.
Yeah,

he's probably, you know, I don't know.
I'm like a very, like, unhappy3.
Like, I need more time.
I like this guy though, man.
I think he's sick.

Cozy Snap (29:35):
This guy's cool, guys.
Star Brand, 3 cost, 10 power.
You heard that right.
A 3 10?
How is that possible?
Well, Alex, ongoing, youropponent has plus 3 power at
each other location.
So it's like, wow, that's bad.
It's a 3 1 at that point, right?
But you get a lot of power atone location.
Well, guys, this one is quitesimple, quite easy.

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You're looking to do two lineswith it, maybe three.
But Sauron needs the love.
This is a Sauron card.
Love it through and through.
So just get back to what Sauronwas.
Big power, get rid of theongoing, make it happen.
But also Enchantress.
You got you know, Enchantressthat you can play right after
him.
You know, maybe just to get ridof that and have raw 16 power,

(30:17):
whatever, right?
Just boom, power on the lane.
I like that play.
I think Starbrand is on brandfor Snap and I like it.

Oh, buddy, that was beautiful.
My gosh, Cozy, did you write,are you reading a teleprompter?
I did, I did, yeah.
Is that like some chat GPTscripting right there that was
just so perfect?
It caught me.
Yeah, buddy, that was, that wasbeautiful.
But I will tell you, I love thiscard.
Like, this might be one of themost, my favorite ones of the
month.
The reason why is because I,like, love Sauron.
I always love those archetypes.
I love Zero.
I remember thinking back to,like, the third episode of the

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Snapchat, you talking about,like, how much you loved Zero.
And then that, that card andthat archetype saw nothing.
It was completely forgottenabout.
In fact, there's a chance thatthere's people listening right
now that don't even know whatzero is.
I bet you there are new playerswho cannot think of what zero
even does.
And it's crazy because like thiscard, I think is great.
And the only concern I have islike, I don't want the Sauron
decks to lean so far into like,if I don't draw Sauron, I die.

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Like, you know what I mean?
And like, that's kind of thechallenge.
So I'd like the Kolo for theEnchantress.
Cause that's a nice backup playto Starbrand or to you know,
Typhoid Mary or Lizard.
Yeah.

Cozy Snap (31:19):
Yeah, and that's like you start to have things kind of
I missed that deck.
You're right Like I really do Imiss that deck and not to
mention scar Insert this is avery powerful card for that if
you can make it work withinthere, too and having a tech
piece like I love the idea ofthe tech piece like enchantress
to kind of live in that deck aslike a an a for star brand and
also a tech card, right you getlike a A killmonger out of it

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that we want more of I want morebad ongoings I think it's just
such a cool concept.
They don't they don't messaround with enough Starbrand,
definitely cool after kind of aweak Esan week, you know, we got
Agamotto followed by him.
Now, next one we have is firstof all, by the way, star rating
on Starbrand?

I'm, I'm like, almost 5, just on pure
excitement.
Like, I could probably see himlanding closer to like a 4.
I think he's like a 4.
I think he's good though.
He's a 4.
I'm excited 5, but he's reallyprobably a 4.

Cozy Snap (32:09):
Okay, so we have Fire Hair next RIP Firestar.
Fire Hair is a 2 3, now thisone's interesting.
When one of your cards isdestroyed, this uses that card's
on reveal.
And, you know Alex, every nowand then we get a really cool
card that can, can create combosand create really fun things as
just like a set piece.

(32:30):
You know, we saw it in the pastwith like a Nihilus and Hood,
right?
And century now we've got firehair who is a destroyed card,
but also looks to just kind ofwork with something you know
Really any destroying card, butmisery and venom I think is
yeah, those are to me.
Those are awesome Just plug andplay lines.
What do you think about firehair?

I think mill's going to feast with fire here.
It's like, I think that the, themill misery lines are going to
go absolutely insane.
The only thing that I thinkabout with fire here is I think
it's going to set up verycomplex, like macro situations
where like fire air has to bepositioned to take advantage of
its effect.
While also you're destroyingsomething in another lane or
whatever, like, I think thatlike, it's going to be

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challenging to positioneffectively, but I think it's a
really cool card.
I liked the design.
It's neat.
But like, yeah, I need more timeto really think about its
inherent synergies.
But I think it's cool,especially from a macro
perspective, like how you set upyour board to best take
advantage of the effect.

Cozy Snap (33:26):
Yeah, what I'm thinking of is venom, right?
So I'm thinking of I'm lookingat some of these high power on
reveals.
Like what are some of these bigboys do?
And then if you were to eat thatand then have that go into
another lane, you're getting Imean, obviously misery is the is
the biggest bang for buck toget.
You know, the smaller guys kindof all triggering at once doing
a lot, but like what can venomeat to then have some really

(33:46):
good things pop off evensomething like brood, you know,
I don't know whatever right likecould just eat it then it goes
over there and you, you know,make the space smaller.
But I do think in all that thisthat fire here is pretty
interesting.
If star rating is tough, I thinkI would lean kind of high.
I think there's going to be moresynergy than not.

I'm like, Hesitant to give a star rating
because I think I need more timeto like, start pen and papering
some ideas for it.
But I would probably venture tosay like a high three, low four
range.
Okay, now That's my estimation.

Cozy Snap (34:15):
People you know, if you listened to the last
Snapchat, I was talking to AlexOr a couple of Snapchats ago, I
was talking to Alex about MoonKnight and how I really wish he
watched the series.
And I'm sure he has not yet, butcharacter I really liked on Moon
Knight.
From the introduction of him, toalso just throughout the series.
Was Khonshu and Khonshu.
Man, you just grow to loveKhonshu and who he is as the

(34:36):
Egyptian God.
They're bringing them to Marvelsnap.
And it's not just as a 612, I'mgoing to kind of list what he
does here.
This is by far my favorite cardof this month, I think by by by
a long shot Not only because ofkanchu but in general so kanchu
guys is going to start as a 6 5He has two other forms a 6 7 and
a 6 12.
They all do inherently the samething, but with a major

(34:58):
difference So first of all whenyou discard kanchu is when
you're going to be able toupgrade his power, right?
So he starts as a 6 5 Then thesix, seven, six, 12.
But when you play him down, he'sgoing to resurrect one of your
other cards and then set thatcard's power to the form that
he's in.
So five, seven, or 12.
So at the weakest form, he isinherently going to have other

(35:20):
things in factor here, but asix, 10.
But then you go into 14 to 12,which is crazy.
Right?
So to me, we have this new kindof apocalypse number one, like
this new kind of buildup cardthat you can get better and
better love this mechanic.
And I hope they continue to, towork with this in discard, but
man, oh man, do we have somecards we can abuse even at five,

(35:42):
seven, and definitely 12 power.
I'm all in on Conchu, buddy.

Yeah, it's pretty cool, and I like how,
like, I hope that it'll actuallywork with the nameplate, the way
it's kind of illustrated in thedatamines, where the moon
becomes more full, like itstarts as a new moon, when he's
a 6'5 and then you discard himonce, he becomes like a kind of
like a, I think it's a waning ora waxing moon crescent, and then
he turns into the full moon atfull power.
Yeah, it's awesome, I think it'sreally neat, and I also like the

(36:08):
skill cap consideration of like,only discard him twice, because
if you discard him the thirdtime, then Poof, right?
He's gone because he only comesback on those first two forms,
right?
Yeah, but the power output'sinsane.
Like, can you imagine bringingback like an Ironman?
So you play a 6 12 in onelocation and bring back a 6 12
Ironman.
Like, it's just, it's justcrazy, honestly.
That's a 24

Cozy Snap (36:27):
power play.
And, but as we know, I thinkwhat has me so excited is we
finally have another card.
Discard is one of those perfectwell put together archetypes
because it it it flows and rampsso well And so you have this you
morbius that's just going to themoon with every action you take,
right?
You have this black knight thatwe can maybe play and get some
really cool value out of blackknight to get the ebony blade

(36:49):
And then cons you I love thatHela is not now just Hela, and
we have this kind of mini formof Hela.
We had it in Ghost Ride a littlebit, but the fact that this
synergizes perfectly with MoonKnight, so you're discarding
your opponent's hand, you'regetting Conshu builds up.
This to me is by far the carthat I'm most excited for.
And regardless of how good it'sgoing to be, I'm going to get

(37:09):
it.
But I also think it's going tobe very good.

Yeah.
It looks like it's going to bereally good.
It's going to need a lot of likediscard activators.
Like you need to discardsomething to bring back.
You need to discard conchu.
So like you need, it's going toneed a very deliberate, well
designed tight deck.
However, I'm super excited forit as well.
I think it's going to be a newarchetype defining card for
Discard.
Like, we have these archetypeswithin Discard, right?
We have the Apoc, we have theBullseye, we have the Black

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Knight.
Do you guys remember BlackKnight?
He still exists, kind of.
And then now you're going tohave Conshu as well.
And so you're going to havethese multiple and then of
course Hellas.
So you have like five versionsof one archetype that you can
lean into.
So yeah, I think it's a reallyinteresting card.

Cozy Snap (37:46):
And it makes silver samurai a hell of a lot better,
too.
I think you can get rid of thatiron man Now get rid of their
car like it makes that better Hecomes with I don't care about
the spotlights as much but itdoes come with corvus and scorn
So like just like hey, welcometo discard you know week love
that.
It's the last card Yeah, it'sgonna be the last card that
comes out for the the theAncient avengers or whatever

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they're calling this prehistoricavengers Kind of a weird name a
lot of gods here and and justpowerful beings is that maybe a
better name here?
But very very cool cardnonetheless.
Now.
Lastly, this is not in thespotlight So this is probably a
game mode card if we had toguess but we have to talk about
it the first ghost rider Lizardis in stitches.
A 2 6! How does that work?
Well, he's got himself an onreveal that he will discard the

(38:31):
lowest power card from your handand then that card's power will
be removed from this one.
And so people looked at thiscard and they're like Man, this
looks really bad because there'sso many specific lines that
you're gonna have to, you know,make sure that you play and, you
know, if you just look at it asa whole A little bit awkward,
but here's the thing Alex Yougot a new discard card at two

(38:53):
big win.
Just start there.
Big win, new discard only at twocosts.
So you've got that action, butI, I think this con shoe is up
there, but this is my nextfavorite card, especially.
In tandem with Conshue.
Playing this with Conshue Ithink is gonna be very
interesting cause you can avoidConshue and you can make this
guy work.

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Alex, I know you've thoughtabout this.
You mentioned Iron Man withConshue.
Right?
Iron Man going up to 12 power.
Well, first of all you have IronMan 0 power so nothing's gonna
happen there.
You just get a 2.
You know, you get a two, sixsilver samurai actually, he's
dead after we just said he mightbe alive.
So you get that and you get ironman gone.
But obviously we can all talkabout what everybody's thinking
about is Celine and the goblinsback.

(39:37):
Are they back?
I

guess it depends on how they do math and
Marvel snap land, because whenyou are taking away a negative
eight.
That sounds to me like you'readding eight to ghost rider, but
then again, I'm not a mathteacher.
I'll leave it to themathematicians in the comments
to argue.
But to me, it sounds like if youget rid of a ghost rider, you're
adding eight power to the firstghost rider.
And here, this line, Titan modelines, right?

(39:59):
Zabu turn one ghost rider turnto get rid of hobgoblin.
Okay.
This guy becomes a one to two 14or whatever.
And then what you do is withyour now pumped.
Original Ghost Rider, you playGhost Rider, send the Hobgoblin
back over, boom! Talk about thatsnap condition, baby.

Cozy Snap (40:16):
I mean, even at the simplest, first of all, that was
that was great, I do love that.
But even in the simple termswithout, you know, having
perfect card draw, I think justin general, the Hobgoblin, Alex,
having a Hobgoblin, as Alex justsaid, Alex is the teacher, so I
will leave the math to him.
He can maybe I'll teach youmath, bro.
Yeah, whatever and negativeeight.
Okay, so negative eight to sixthat in theory bro You're

(40:40):
getting yourself.
What a 14 power card a 214 Nowit's gonna be hard to always
have that work out, but notreally too I mean, I feel like
this with selene on one even Isawesome like this and you're
getting the activate card.
Obviously these cards aren'talways when you want to discard
So like this is the first timeyou want to discard something
awkward like this.

(41:01):
This is a home run hit I thinkthis is a very cool card You
said your line, can I say mine?

Yes, go.

Cozy Snap (41:08):
Okay, so you have Conchu, I don't know how you're
gonna get this all the way, butyou have Conchu, right?
You've got, turn two, you playdown the first Ghost Rider.
Who does he get rid of, Alex?
He gets rid of, wait for it,Gore the God Butcher, negative
one.
Okay, so it goes up to a twoseven.
You're like, all right, two,seven gores gone.
And then you have cons you, youhave cons you playing cons.

(41:29):
She brings back gore.
You name it.
I don't care.
A five, a seven, a 12.
You tell me a two, seven a conshoe.
Plus this guy is not just goingto wreck shop.

It is.
It's, that's actually a niceline.
I hadn't thought about gore.
Gore would be pretty solidbecause it's, they're like
pretty much all on reveals too,right?
Pretty nice, Cozy.
And then all your discardsynergistic cards are gonna be
on reveals.
There's a ton of on reveals inthose decks.
Damn, Cozy's cookin Cozy'scookin You know what's gonna be
so sad, though?
When Glenn's listening to this,he's thinking clowns.
I bet you, I bet you theythought of all this, and then

(42:01):
when you discard a negativecard, it actually takes away
power.
It doesn't matter.
I bet you.
They better not.
They better.
They'll like rewrite the, thecalculus books.
To make sure that we're sad.

Cozy Snap (42:09):
I think we're going to have a Mr.
Negative, Gore, Agamotto deckwith, with First Ghost Riders.
So you get all these cards, youcan Jane Foster all the spells
to your hand.
And then you can also, you canalso bring some of them back
with Conchu.
I don't know.
There's going to be some wild.
This just, it seems like afreaking cool month.

It looks like to me that the reddit posts are
going to write themselves whenpeople say like second inner
can't do math Because gettinggetting rid of ghost riders
gonna turn the sorry getting ridof hobgoblin is gonna turn ghost
right into a negative two

Cozy Snap (42:39):
probably Now we're gonna move on and we're gonna go
into the what if season againThese are a bit more in concept,
but they are out there and Iwould say 60 percent of the
cards that get made up end upmaking it with 40 percent
getting some type of a cutchange and altogether Ability
shifted.
So we might see that now theseason The the season pass card

(43:03):
that will be coming out Is goingto be captain Carter now if you
guys don't know and I might bewrong here What If?
A lot of people know from Disneythere's been now, I think, three
seasons on it.
That's where a lot of peoplewere introduced to it.
It was a running comic series.
I remember my, like, my cousinhad it.
And I, there's some that wereLike, What If?
is cool because there's so manyWhat If?

(43:24):
scenarios.
But Captain Carter has been longin The what if thing this is not
just from the show even thoughmaybe the art might be I I think
I could be wrong though

Yeah so like captain carter is like Obviously
a super iconic person from whatif and it's one of the it's
actually she's one of the firstepisodes, right?
And it's funny because like i'veactually been starting to dive
into what if i've been divinginto like the anime spider man
That just recently came out i'mtrying to i'm trying to catch up
cozy And, I gotta tell ya, whatI like about Captain Carter is
because, like, Agent Carterherself was an extremely

(43:54):
impactful, fascinating characterfrom the MCU, especially in the
early days of the MCU.
Like, I loved Agent Carter asCap, but that's a whole other
conversation.
Seeing this type of, like, Useof like, what if to create new
cards?
First of all, it makes meexcited for snap because like,
what this represents is theiropportunity to like people say,
well, you're going to run out ofcharacters.
Eventually you can only go tothe wall for so long.

(44:15):
Well now the, what if ability tolike bring in these, what if
style cards into snap reallyincreases the pool of cards that
are possible, which is kind ofinteresting.
Right.
But yeah, with captain Carter, Ithink one of the most notable.
things is obviously it'songoing, which is your other
cards in the back row, gain thiscard's power.
We haven't seen that muchfixation on the positioning of

(44:36):
cards before.
And so we're talking about a newmechanic functionally in Marvel
snap, which which I think ispretty fascinating.
Cause usually you don't carewhere cards are positioned
unless you're playing like anihilist or move where the
actual positioning of the cardswill determine where they move
or if they flip.
Right.
But yeah, no, I find this to besuper fascinating.
I'm really excited for it.

Cozy Snap (44:54):
Well, a good point.
I think We you know with rocketand group coming out they did
the rivals crossover So they hadto kind of commit to some of
those I I agree I think it'sfine to get in different
versions of cars, but what ifmakes it a lot cooler?
I think and you can really thinkoutside the box because there's
some extremely cool concepts Ithink there's some weird
concepts, but I think that's thewhole point of it, right?

(45:16):
You have to Carter Carter thoughfor those that don't know and
listening Is a forecast to powercard at the time ongoing your
other cards in the back row heregain this card's power Now
obviously in snap This is whatwe would assume back rows the
you know The row closest tocards and then the front row is
the ones closest to thelocations That's gonna how you

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know be kind of how it works.
And I think this is a prettycool design.
You know, obviously just It atfirst you read it and you're
like, okay, well, so it's likea, what a four, six, right?
And then you also have to havecaptain carter in the front, but
obviously with it being ongoingWe have a lot of ways that you
can manipulate that and make itwork a lot better What do you
think of captain carter as acard?

I think it's interesting Obviously, it's
early so i'm still working onlines, but like right off the
top captain america turn threecaptain carter turn four ironman
turn five Captain America isgoing to buff both Captain
Carter and Iron Man.
Captain Carter is going to buffIron Man again.
And so then you get anabsolutely insane lane with
three cards.
And then in that lane, maybe youthrow down something like I
don't know, like Omega red.

(46:16):
I don't know.
This is pure code, but you coulddo something with it.
But that line makes a lot ofsense, right?
Cap America, Captain Carter,Iron Man, one location, boom,
boom, boom.
And they're all synergizingtogether.
I think it's pretty cool.

Cozy Snap (46:28):
I like the idea of like doing Captain Carter,
Mystique, Onslaught, like, Idon't know, but like Captain
Carter, Mystique, Moonstone,Onslaught, whatever, and then
you can even live in Tribunalnow, there's so much power
there, but really just honestlywith just Mystique and Captain
Carter, that's like, man, you'repumping up that back line to
win, right?
Like that back line's lookingreally good, and then you can

(46:48):
maybe Omega Red that, so thenit's like, okay, that, that
thing's not moving.
Got a spectrum you can messaround with.
I don't know.
I think it's just cool.
Anytime we get an ongoing card,we know how good Spectrum is and
how good Onslaught is and allthe cards fit in those molds,
right?
And Mystique.
Okay, so those are the threecards.
And now Moonstone, actually.
Let me, let me preface that.
Anything under, you know, threeMoonstone.

(47:08):
So we have cards now that canall be manipulated.
And really, they go in thosedecks.
Some, some can stand alone, butmost of them are going to be
kind of placed in those decks.
And I think that's whatrepresents a good ongoing guard.
Can it stand alone?
And how is it going to performin that style of deck?

And I'm assuming, and I might be wrong,
but I am assuming that SamWilson's shield will not buff
her.
That's one thing that's worthassuming.
However, if the shield does buffCaptain Carter, because she is
a, some form of a cap, right?
Like, I don't know, she's notCaptain America.
Definitely more of a cap thanBritain.
But she's got a shield.
Damn it.
Look at that shield.
It's just got a bit of adifferent flag on it.

(47:45):
Cozy.
It's just got a bit of adifferent flag.
She talks a little different,right?
She got a little bit of anaccent there, but there is a
world where Glen might bethinking, Oh, she's a cap and
maybe she gets buffed by thatshield, which would be a very
natural synergy.

Cozy Snap (47:57):
They need to, they need to either get the word
captain America, or like theyneed to, like on the shield
here, they need to be able toput.
Captain America or to not makeit as confusing.
I think people just need to seethat because it is cap.
You're right.
I don't think it is going towork personally, but it would be
cool because it, you know, itworks, right?
Like even though it's not, yeah,America is Britain, but the

(48:19):
shield would work right afterall.
But yeah, so definitely I thinkshe is a interesting car, not
near as good as Agamotto in mymind, but I do think that she's
going to have some really coolplay lines, really just going to
work all together, you know, inthat build well in the spotlight
with Captain Carter.
We've got Goliath coming.
Goliath is a 2 1 Alex, and thisto me, he kind of has a, I don't

(48:41):
know about you, he gives off alittle Blue Marvel feel, right?
He's got also a little BlueMarvel kind of ability.
Ongoing, plus one power for eachother ongoing that you have in
play.
And as we just said with CaptainCarter, it's all about how does
this work in Spectrum, how doesthis work in Onslaught.
This is just right away.
The perfect spectrum card.

Oh yeah, buddy.
This is amazing.
This is a great car.
At first of all, I'm shockedthat this text didn't exist
already.
Like it seemed like such anobvious text line that like just
didn't exist.
But also this card is wild.
It's a two one.
And as you play ongoing cards,it just gets more power.
Are you kidding me?
Like, just even with Sam Wilsonby itself, this is a 2 3, boom,
right?
Like, it's just crazy how goodthis card is.
Not only that, it's good onlater turns, right?

(49:23):
Because obviously it's anongoing card, so it'll benefit
from existing ongoing cards.
Dude, this card's wild.
I think this is like a four orfive star card.
Like, I really like this card.
I think it's gonna be verypowerful, comes out the way it
is.

Cozy Snap (49:34):
It reminds me of Speed, but even better.
Like, Speed was like, didnothing fancy, but like, got
good stat line.
And like, Goliath does nothingfancy, good stat line.
And on top of that, he's alsogoing to be just played.
Alongside all of it like this iswe're finally getting I believe
I saw something in the dataminesabout a move And finally getting
this to we're finally gettingwhat we said forever ago a
Morbius for all the archetypes,right?

(49:54):
Like that is what this kind offeels like in Goliath Very solid
week and with captain cartereven better cool stuff coming
for ongoing with goliath Now wemove on goliath is the first
week second week I'm gonna i'mgonna allow you to introduce.
This this card alex.
I believe I want to know, do youknow where this is, where she's

(50:15):
from?

So I was told this is from what if, and I have
no idea who this is.
I don't even know how to say thename.
Is it Kohori?
I'm assuming it's Kohori, thereshaper of worlds.

Cozy Snap (50:25):
The double H throws me off.
No, I think, yeah, I think it isKohori.
And it's a four, she's a four,six, right?
So four, six, Alex, you're like,all right.
We've seen this stat linebefore.
What does Kohori do?
On reveal for each card in yourhand, give a friendly card plus
one power.

Awesome.

Cozy Snap (50:42):
We're getting some cool, they're just trying to get
Devil Dinosaur to get going, Ifeel like.
They're just trying to get thatcard back.

They're like, hey, White Queen, you think
you're hot?
Take a look at Kohori, youstupid clown.
Like, give me, like, tell meright now the White Queen is not
feeling like a complete piece oftrash.
Like, this card is so muchbetter.
It's crazy.
This is actually a very legitcard.
Like, body Coulson into this?
Easy.

Cozy Snap (51:03):
This is a car that didn't need to exist and they
could have just given this awhite queen I think that that
would have been a much betterthing to happen Yeah, I know
they don't get money from itbecause this is a very, very
strong card.
I mean, it's going to almostalways be a 410 value, but then
also I think the best part aboutis it just kind of fits
anywhere.
It fits into any deck really.

(51:24):
I mean, the way that you play itout.

I just don't understand what she's wearing.
Like, I don't want to get intothis.
But she has like this nice,like, you know, traditional
dress.
Is she wearing like, some sortof weird leather boot?
Like, what is that?
Like, I don't know who dressedher, but this is inappropriate.

Cozy Snap (51:36):
Yeah, it seems like she'd be cold.
I think, I think it's cold backthere.
I can't tell.
It looks cold.

We got to watch this episode before all
this.
What if I got to actually watch?
What if we should watch?
What?
I don't

Cozy Snap (51:48):
know why I don't know this, but I've seen, I feel like
I've seen them all, but it's along time since I've seen the
first one or at least the firstseries.
Anyway, plus one note to all ofit.
There's a lot of cool lines thatyou can do with this.
There's a lot of ways you canabuse this.
There's stuff you can do withWong or whatever.
Like there's just cool things Ithink you can do.
This is going to be a strongcard.
Like hands down a very goodcard, especially if it stays
again.
It's in concept.
So we'll see but guys if you Ifyou think that card's strong

(52:12):
This is probably the one i'mmost excited for just in theory
because it seems like it's Idon't know a while away A
while's away until it actuallygets implemented in the game
infinity Ultron, you heard thatright, 5, 6, it's a 5 cost 6
power card, on reveal, add 2Ultron Infinity Stones to your
hand and I was so giddy to hearthat we can get another card

(52:34):
with Infinity Stones and thisone's a doozy Alex, first of
all, they go to your hand,right?
He's not gonna start in yourdeck.
So you've got, you've got a lotof things kind of ha you know,
or he's not gonna start, sorry,in your hand.
So you got a lot of things yougot to work through, right?
But we're gonna go through allthe stones, man.
But in concept, what do youthink of just this guy before we
get into those?

I think it's cool.
And my first read of thosestones like Danny stones are
super good.
And I think that the power ismitigated by the fact that you
only get two and you don't knowwhich two you're going to get.
But yeah, they're good.
Infinity Ultron's good.
I can see this card being madeweaker because I think it's
going to slap and I think that'sgoing to be a real banger.

Cozy Snap (53:11):
So what these stones do, we're just gonna read them
all.
I'm not gonna say which one'sthe power stone, whatever.
I'm just gonna go through whatwe've got here.
So one stone is a 3 2 on going.
Your on reveal abilities herehappen twice.
You get a 3 2 wonk, right?
You get a wonk at three costs.
Obviously very good but we'llget into that a bit more later.
3 2 on reveal, double infinityUltron's power.
Okay, you've got that going.

(53:32):
3 3 on reveal for each fulllocation you have a friendly
card there gets plus two power.
And then at 3 4, OnReveal, movethe lowest power enemy card here
to InfinityUltron's location.
3 1, OnReveal, add a drone hereand set its power to
InfinityUltron's.
And then 3 1, OnReveal, put acard here from your hand.

(53:55):
From your hand to this location.
There's something to talk about,but I mean, do all of these feel
like they combo with each other?
And depending on which ones youget, you can get some nutty
stuff happening.

Yeah, you could definitely pop off on a
couple of them, and there's acouple that seem a little weaker
than the others, like the onethat gives plus two if locations
are full and stuff, that soundslike a placeholder, unless like
I'm inebriated and I don't seethe power there, but it seems
like not great compared to someof the other ones.
But what I like about InfinityAltron is the fact that it's a,
it's a five.
I really liked it's a fivebecause it creates a situation

(54:28):
where you play this five, sixdown, you get the stones to your
hand and your opponent sweatsthinking like, is it pretty all
trunk?
And all of a sudden like burstin power is cause you could also
have hit it with Nikoi orsomething.
And if you get the, the stonethat kind of like increases its
power or whatever, like theycan't really rely on what you've
done.
Like, it's like, it's theultimate head game.
Of what Infinity Ultron is doingand I like that because of the

(54:48):
mind stone element of, of whoUltron is.
I don't know, I love the flavorof this card.
I think it's really welldesigned.

Cozy Snap (54:54):
And I think they're all from the, the, the honor
veal the, the mini Wong beingthere available.
I think that is the snapper,right?
So you get that one because allof these are on reveal at the
moment.
And so all of these.
You know, you don't think it'sthat good, but even giving a
friendly card plus two for fulllocations, you put that on top
of the other one that does ittwice and all of a sudden you

(55:14):
have some crazy stuff.
So doubling infinity old chancepower, getting that twice as
crazy, putting cards down fromyour hand there twice is stupid,
crazy, like there's a bunch ofstuff you can do and I would say
outside of maybe like, yeah, acombo of two of them like.
I feel like it has that snappotential that maybe even like
copycat had in the sense ofRight away, you could almost

(55:37):
snap with this guy and you'relooking pretty good because this
guy will give He'll be thecomeback king in some areas
really able to do some powerfulstuff

Dude, Joaquin Torres, turn 3, turn 4 Wong,
turn 5, Infinity Altron, turn 6Prophet.

Cozy Snap (55:53):
Well, these are 3 cost stones, though.

Yeah, but that's why you have turn 6,
baby.
What is Joaquin, isn't Joaquin 1cost only?
Oh, no! My heart! I was thinkingabout the actual, no, you're
right.
I was thinking about Thanosstones being 1 drops.
Nevermind, my whole plan'sruined.
Disaster.
Alex is in shambles.

Cozy Snap (56:09):
No, it's okay.
Wong before this, right?
You play Wong, then you get thestones that double up again,
then you get a Mystique for freepretty much right to copy that.
No, I, I, I see the vision.
But no really I think that theydid this guy right and I think
he I'm call me as I'm a I'm afan of these generation They
essentially have to come up witha bunch of cards when they do

(56:29):
these but the agamotto oneinfinity ultron like doing all
these like spell ban one timeuse stuff like I'm a fan.
I think that should be what fivecosts are all about too, because
I think that's such a coolunique spot for it.
And and this one, this one seemslike a winner to me.

Yeah, it seems like a fun way to close out a
game.
Play this, get some funny stuffhappening on turn six.
That your opponent notnecessarily can like figure out
or anticipate.
Yeah, definitely.
I like this design a lot.

Cozy Snap (56:55):
Now, this was probably one of the best
episodes of What If Ever if youhaven't seen it.
Strange Supreme.
Now, Strange Supreme, guys, is atwo cost.
Zero power card.
Give this plus two power, beingstrange, whenever it merges.
After each turn, merge one ofyour cards that didn't start in
your deck.
Into this very when you readthis you're like, huh?

(57:18):
Like what like what's going onwith this card?
And listen, I think it's prettycool I think it's a 2 0 the guys
got some you know, new combopotential but I also think more
importantly that this is a cardthat Is it kind of an anti clog,
anti junk card for starts?
I like that.
He creates board space off ofthings like like what we just

(57:39):
talked about, right?
Where it's like, yeah, there'sbanished cards.
Well, now we have things like,if you're playing squirrels, or
you're playing Thanos stones,like, you don't have to worry so
much about all that space beingtaken up.

Yeah, no, he seems perfectly synergistic with
something like a debris.
You're taking up space on theirside and you're just chomping
down on your rocks, getting plustwo for each rock.
Yeah, 100 percent buddy.
Moreover, if they throwsomething like a goblin over,
like this might be where likethe, the goblin synergy we were
talking about with the firstghost rider and the next ghost
rider, you play Serene Supremethere to munch up the, the
hobgoblin, stuff like that,because it didn't start in your

(58:10):
deck.
I think that it's kind of neat,I think it's a cool design, and
It's funny because I thought, Ihad this thought where like, as
time has gone on, The limits ofthis board space in Marvel Snaps
design has been somewhat of afactor.
I've even joked in the pastabout having like an A Ram type
mode, like all random, all mid,Which is like from MOBAs where
basically it's just one midlocation, Which kind of could be

(58:31):
funny with unlimited space andstuff like that.
But you know, custom game mode,who knows, but I do like the
idea of like controlling space.
Right.
And we're starting to see cardslike, obviously we have agony,
we have Hulkbuster and strengthsupreme is another flavor of
that, which helps to counter thethe decks that have like those,
not mill, but the junk side,right?
Cause junk was so problematicfor a while.
And I think that's why they wentso aggressively after someone

(58:52):
like a white widow who you mighteven forget existed in the game.
White widow talk about anabsolutely like.
Soul crushing nerf that cardtook something like string
supreme feast on white widow Socould you perhaps bring this
card out and make white widowits old self again?
I don't know Maybe

Cozy Snap (59:06):
what's that location the mind the rock mine location
where all those rocks come outman It's like this one's just
like yeah play me Yeah, I'lljust suck all those up right or
or just even yeah, justsomething like the hobgoblin the
I mean this looks like it'sactually going to be working
with The first ghost rideragainst it like kind of that
tech card because then you canmaybe get a rise in some of the
hobgoblin Stuff this looks likeit can go against it This is a

(59:29):
little bit off the beaten pathhere outside of Strange Supreme.
I I I had something I totallywanted to bring up with Infini
Infinity Old Sean that I don'twe just whiffed past it.
Bro, Quinjet, there's two cards.
Quinjet with this, I think isbusted, okay?
Cause then he makes all thosethree costs, two costs, and you
can play three of those stones.
But it's like, okay, how doesthat work?
But even more so, I had to bringthis up.

(59:49):
I think Symbiote Spider Man.
It is freaking awesome withInfinity Ultron because you play
Symbiote Spider Man down, youplay Ultron down, then you do
the activate and you get four ofthe stones.
And you somehow could get thatworking with the Quinjet or just
having more options to playwith.
It was so, it was too cool.
And I had those on my notes thatI was like, man, I got to bring

(01:00:10):
that up.
Aren't those interestinginteresting lines.
Yeah.

Alexander Coccia (01:00:13):
Symbiote Spider Man existed.
So yeah, cool.
And or magic.
That's a card that existed inMarvel.
Snap cozy.
But it is a pretty cool synergy.
It's a good call.

Cozy Snap (01:00:22):
Hydra Stomper.
Next card.
Ongoing plus one power for eachcard you moved this

game.
But I'm thinking like ScreamDeck type things.
And if you're moving their cardswith Polaris, I still think it
counts.

Cozy Snap (01:00:33):
So, it being an ongoing at 3 1.
I, this seems like anotherpretty solid card.

Yeah, like you do Scream 2, Hydro Stomper 3,
and then you start doing likelike shenanigans with Steggy,
with Arrow, with Magneto,Magneto Feasts, right?
Because now Magneto is buffingthis each time it moves a card.
So if Magneto pulls four cards,Scream only gets one proc, Hydro
Stomper gets four, right?
So like, yeah, this is a hugeMagneto card.

(01:00:59):
I think it's actually prettyneat.
But then Heimdall too, no?
Is this well, yeah,

Cozy Snap (01:01:05):
like I feel like this is a this is a card that can
scale to really good potentialMaybe this is finally when red
wing can be okay Probably notbecause then what other cards
would you play with it?
But this is what I wasmentioning earlier the morbius
of these different archetypesWe're finally getting we've been
waiting for a card like this fora while.
It's a bit getting power As youdo what the archetype wants to

(01:01:25):
do.

Yeah.
Inexpensive scalers.
They're super, super valuable.
And in this case, I think thathydrostomper is legit because as
you mentioned, you could disruptthem by a magneto and move their
stuff around and buffet, and youcan also consider Heimdall to
buff your own side and not worryabout them as well.
There's so many ways you canactivate it.

Cozy Snap (01:01:42):
Now I was mixing him up with what Dumb Dumb Duggin
does.
On going, your cars in the frontrow get plus one power.
This is essentially what Ithought the other one was doing.
And to me, you got, what, just a2.
4 baseline, but this is anothercheap.
Cheap little card that I thinkis going to work in the package
quite nicely.

No, yeah, honestly, it seems like it's
pretty legit.
I don't think it has.
I think I like Hydra Stomperbetter, but still like I, I
would not mind being able togive a Dum Dum a little bit of a
run run.
See if he can do a little bit inthe deck in Marvel Snap.
I think the design of thesecards is actually kind of
fascinating, which I like.
Like we're coming from a seasonwhich like I don't want to talk
about like negatively on RedWing and stuff or like Thaddeus

(01:02:22):
Ross, but like they're just notquite as exciting.
These ones feel a little moreexciting.

Cozy Snap (01:02:27):
They feel like they, yeah, they definitely synergize
better together to almost allthe seasons are like kind of
working in tandem with eachother, which I like, especially
this, you know, this season,Topaz three, four, Alex, after
you play a card here, move it tothe middle location.
Why would you want that?
What do you see with Topaz?
Here's the three, four.

What do I see with them?
I mean, it feels, it kind offeels like grandmaster for move,
except when you, you're able tolike immediately prockets
effect, right?
Like imagine you play justvulture on him.
You play vulture on him.
It throws it to the middle.
Then you go spider.
On turn four, like you couldvulture ghost spider on turn
four, right?
I think it's pretty neat.
I, I, I don't know, I actuallycould see this being removed in
power.

(01:03:05):
Like, I think that, like, itcould be maybe a 3 3, cause I, I
do think that synergy with moveis pretty high.
Especially when you consider,like, you have, like, the bounce
and little move little moverstype stuff.
Where you could, like,repeatedly reprock on top of
this.
So yeah, like I believe thatlike we don't have the text on
the screen I believe this onehere you could reprock on right?
Yes, you can once per game oranything right now You can I

Cozy Snap (01:03:25):
could see being

abused.

Cozy Snap (01:03:26):
This is what we should have gotten this season
with red wing This is this isthe red wing card I mean because
what I just said the thing thatsucks with red wing is you're
hoping to like when are yougonna play it?
What card are you gonna use toactivate it?
What's great about this guy isyou play him down and then you,
you always have that activationto move a card.
Not like Madame Web, you gottawait, right?
This is immediate.
So I, I think this will be acool piece for Move.

(01:03:49):
I think it's gonna maybe causesome problems though, depending
on the But it's all in themiddle location, which is nice.
And it can be a problematiclocation for Move.
Like back in the day, you wouldonly play Storm in the middle.
Remember, it just shuts downMove altogether.
Listen bro, we just went througha Million cards in the game.
They're all coming out.
Which one sticks out to you themost as we close things out?

Star brand.
Star brand is the one I want.

Cozy Snap (01:04:11):
Yeah, that's just a cool one.
It's so simplistically cool.
We talk about that all the time,but just like very
simplistically cool.
I'm definitely going withAgamotto.
I think that one's just going tobe.
That's gonna pull me away Toplay this game a lot more.
It just seems like a fun carthat there's infinite designs
for

Yeah, agamotto and the infinity ultron are like
the coolest but me personallyIt's like i'm just hyped up like
I really want that 310 chunk,man I want to make some magic
happen with star brand because Ijust want to play a deck that
I've not played in a long time.
I want to play some sauron.
So Cozy.
You gave me homework last week,sir.
And I gave you homework and youknow, I can already see it in
your eyes.
You forgot to do your homework.
Did you watch the intro to thesamurai pizza cats?

Cozy Snap (01:04:49):
My dog ate my, my, my dog ate cozy.
It's like a 32nd

intro.
You couldn't even handle

Cozy Snap (01:04:56):
it.
I,

oh

Cozy Snap (01:04:56):
man.
And

you did yours too.
I did mine.
I, I forced my wife to watch thethe first episode.
Of Daredevil.
Wasn't it good, dude?
And, you know what, dude?
She was like, alright, that wasbetter than what you usually
make me watch.
I make her watch everythingelse.
She was actually like, okay,this was actually like a show I
could watch.
It

Cozy Snap (01:05:14):
feels like a show, right?
Rather than like, a superheroshow.

Superhero show,

Cozy Snap (01:05:18):
yeah.
Okay, so did you, what did youthink?

I thought

Cozy Snap (01:05:20):
it was

awesome.
I thought it was cool.
I love the idea that he was ableto like, cheat.
With his own client with likethe heartbeats and stuff.
I'm like, I can, I can feel whathe's feeling.
You know what I mean?
Like it was so cool.

Cozy Snap (01:05:32):
I think it's got it all.
I think it's funny.
I think it's like well writtensuper well shot.
Yeah.
It's, you would never havethought that they could make
their devil into that good of ashow.
And dude, if you watch itenough, man, the new new
season's coming out.
So you'd be able to catch upwith the rest of the world over
here.

Yeah, so obviously we only watched the
first episode, but I think Icould even convince her to
continue watching with me.
That's, it's a hard sell.
Me being like, hey, do you wantto watch an entire series of
Marvel?
And like, she's like, bruh.
Like, I, I joked about itbefore, but my wife and I have
very, like, convert, like,divergent interests.
Like, we just don't watchsimilar stuff.
And anytime I make her pick amovie, like, she picked this
movie.
It was like someone with WillFerrell.
Like, it's called You'reCordially Invited or something.

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When I tell you this movie wasso bad.
I was like, why are we watchingthis?
Like, this is such a waste ofeveryone's time.
I got, it was great though.
I got my daily missions done ona snap and everything.
Cause that was great.
That's what I was doing whilethe movie was on.
But like, Daredevil was great,man.
And Oh, I have a question andlike, don't go into spoilers or
anything.
Cause obviously like whenever wedon't want to ruin it for people
that like, maybe you guys wantto watch Daredevil as well, but

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does he not have like superhumanstrength or anything?
Cause like, he's just a dudewho's blind and punching people
in the face.
Like, he seems vulnerable in away that like, I did not expect.
Like, I don't know Daredevilwell, but he doesn't seem like
he is a superhuman.

Cozy Snap (01:06:44):
You gotta watch it.

Gotta watch it.
That's the answer?
That's

Cozy Snap (01:06:47):
my answer.
Yeah, I'm not gonna spoil it.
He could have radioactive laserbeams for all you know, coming.
Okay, so he's Cyclops.
Episode 2.
Yeah, it's good dude.
It ages very well.
There's a lot to it.
There's a lot of familiar peopleyou'll know, definitely from
Snap.
And I think what they do best inthat show is they they make it
believable.
There's a lot of realism into itand that's I think one of the

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coolest things about it.
There's a good there's good lovestories There's good.
It's got it all man.
And if you like the Punisher,oh, you're gonna be You can be
in for a good treat.

All right, cool.
And you know what's funny aboutMarvel shows that we've been
watching?
This is my attempt at a seguehere.
Thaddeus Thunderbolt Rossironically makes an appearance
in the Spider Man animation,which I thought was pretty cool.
He talks with Mr.
Osborn.
I'm like, that's, that'sThunderbolt Ross.
Oh my gosh.
That is the Redhawk.
Damn it.
It was pretty cool.
That was the most excited I'dbeen about Thaddeus since he

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came into Marvel Snap becausequite frankly, this card is not
great.
It is a 2 2.
That when your opponent ends aturn with unspent energy, you
draw a card with 10 or morepower and we both came, you came
in at a one and then like you hohum to a two.
Right?
and I came in at a two and I'llhave to tell you, I do think it
ultimately falls as a two starcard.

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Its stats.
It currently runs a 49% win rateat a 7% popularity.
It has a negative cube rate.
But I gotta tell you in my playexperience with him.
When he's drawing cards, hefeels good.
Like drawing cards is like, Ohman, this is free real estate.
But he's useless later in thegame.
Playing him on turn two though,feels great.
I feel like he is perhapsslightly understated, but his

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effect is strong.
I came away more impressed thanI expected to be.
And I think that part of thechallenge with Thaddeus Ross,
that a lot of people just puntedon him and had no interest in
the spotlight cash and nointerest in getting him as a
whole.
And I do come away saying like,you know what?
He's not great.
But I think he's better thanexpected, but still not worth
getting in any shape or kind oflike in any way or form.

(01:08:43):
Like he's definitely not worthgetting, but I did find myself
appreciating him more often thannot, in particular when he was
played early, I mean, obviously.

Cozy Snap (01:08:52):
But here's my question about him.
Did he make the deck a betterthan with him out of it?
And I don't think the answer isyes.
I think that there's otherbetter 2 costs that you would
have rather have in his spot.
And so even though he came, Ithink he's a 1 star.
I, I, because he does, I get it,like he does do the thing and
every now and then.

(01:09:12):
But people love to spend energyand there's just If he was,
we've gone back to this how manytimes, if he was a 1, there
would be a 1 cost, there's a wayto get him in there.
There's a way to make it workpotentially.
At the 2, it's just way toocompetitive at this point in
time.
It's just, there's just too muchgoing on, and it just doesn't,
and it's also the niche deckthat he's in by design doesn't

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need a lot of extra help.
And I think that's a lot of ittoo.
Yeah, he's a disappointment.
I, I, I think I, he's exactlywhat we thought, though.
I don't think we were, we gavehim a one and a two, so he kind
of landed where we thought.

Yeah, he definitely did land where we
thought, but I guess what I'mtrying to say is like, when I
was playing him, and even whenI'm playing him to finish the,
the weekend mission or whatever,like, I'm like, hmm, I think
this card's bad, but here he isdrawing two cards for me in a
game.

Cozy Snap (01:09:58):
You

know what I mean?
And I'm like, do I really thinkthat that's a bad result?
Like, it's obviously not a badresult.
And there were times where I waslike, oh wait, like something I
hadn't considered as well, isthat like, if you play him on 2
and they float energy there,they didn't even understand the
risk of that floated energy.
But you play him on 2, and thenthey, the end of the turn
floats, and you draw on 2.
So you can catch them bysurprise from that standpoint,

(01:10:23):
right?
Which I think is helpful.
And he has immediate synergywith Red Hulk because when they,
if you draw into Red Hulk withhis effect, Red Hulk will still
take the buff, which is prettyinteresting.

Cozy Snap (01:10:33):
What if it said when you or your opponent ends a turn
with unspent energy?

I think that'd be so broken.
He'd have to be way less.
Because if you're floatingenergy by your, like, well think
about like, Bruce Banner.
How much better this is thanBruce Banner then?
Drawing cards because you'refloating energy?
Like, you, yeah, that would beabsolutely crack cozy.
That would be nuts.
If

Cozy Snap (01:10:51):
they made him a 3 cost, I think they could do it.
Because I think at that point,so late in the game, you'd have
to be skipping on 4,

Yeah, that's true.
That's true.
And like, yeah, but I think thatlike having the agency of
yourself skipping energy anddrawing cards is probably crazy.
That's probably prettydangerous.
But as a whole, like, again,he's definitely 100 percent
skippable.
We're not gonna just keeprailing on this guy because like
he is 100 percent skippable.
My concern is if they buff himto like a 2 3.

(01:11:19):
He's honestly not bad.
Like, if he's a 2 3, he's notbad at all.
And I think that But again, asyou mentioned, like, the decks
he's seeing play right now,Like, I'm looking at the stats
right now, Basically, he'srunning a 55 58 percent win rate
across a number of differentshells of Surtur Skar.
Which is exactly what weexpected across in Hella.
He's currently running a 52percent win rate, but a very low

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average cube rate.
So it's probably notrecommended.
Hello.
It was interesting.
Cause like you're drawing chunksthat you can then discard.
And by thinning the deck, youget a chance to draw Hella,
right?
Cause Hella itself won't getdrawn.
Cause it's a six nine.
Nice.
But ultimately with Thaddeus, Ithink he's a hundred percent
skippable.
And we, my friend, I think areready to move on because like,
unless there's something elseyou want to close it.
But like, yeah, Thaddeus, he iswhat we expected.

Cozy Snap (01:12:02):
The only thing I'll say in closing is what we said
last time is he does have thatone thing about him that there's
going to be cards coming outwith 10 power all the time that,
you know, you're going to wantaccess to.
And, and Agamotto is a great onethat we just talked about.
Agamotto is such a powerfulcard.
Now he's got the card that candraw them into your hand, but I
mean, there's some stuff thatjust getting them in your hands
can be really nice to have.
And then you can do some, solike.

(01:12:23):
My point is, there's alwaysgoing to be stuff that you're
going to want, you know, to havehim in there and he does do the
thinning.
So, yeah, a card that's going toage well and if they did take
him to a 2 3, then you have acard that's going to age well
that also sits nice in that 2slot with a purpose.

Yeah, so, I mean, at the end of the day,
Glenn has said multiple times,he wants every single card that
you draw to be exciting in someway.
Thaddeus didn't quite hit thatthis week, however, there's a
chance that in the future hewill hit that and he will be an
exciting card.
And It's also challenging.
And this is one thing I justwant to end on here.
It's like when a card isuniversally kind of understood
at not being exciting, they geta card that nobody wants to get

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pretty much.
No one gets it.
No one experiments with it.
And the car just dies.
Immediately after release, youreally, you create your release
video.
It's predictably made, but thenlike the cooking kind of ends.
And the reason why I bring thisup is because like when I was
testing bullseye bullseye lookedterrible.
Like, at first glance, it didnot feel good, and a lot of
people, I was like, people werecoming into my stream from other
streams saying like, yeah, it'smid, everyone hates it, everyone

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thinks it sucks, and then, like,we stumbled into the Frigga
shell that ended up popping off,and so it's like, did
Thunderbolt Ross get that, didit get the attention, did, did
we really cook with it, but thenagain, like, where else outside
of Surtr was it gonna go, like,we, like, you know what I mean,
it was kind of like, it was aone trick, And the one trick was
not good enough.
So I think you're right.
We can grow into ThunderboltRoss over time.

(01:13:42):
This probably feels like aseries four card before anything
else.
Like this is a, this is theprototypical should not have
released a series five, in myopinion.
But yeah, I absolutely agreethat over time, even star brand.
Bro.
I was going to say Sauron,

Cozy Snap (01:13:54):
actually, this card's legit and Sauron, but I actually
liked this card a lot in Sauronbecause you've got the zero,
whatever play, but you want tosave that sometimes, but then
you just play them on two.
You play Sauron on three andthen it's just kind of like.
You just do what you do withthat deck anyway, and then if
they mess up and they don't dotheir energy, then you're just
getting more of your big stuffthat you can end up playing, and

(01:14:14):
with something like Starbrandnow.
I, dude, that actually is kindof cool.
Like, is this sort of, cause, Iwas actually looking at his
tech, I'm like, okay, it's notongoing, right?
That's the biggest thing aboutthe Soran play.
So, like, this could be, thiscould work in that Soran build.
Right?
And then you've got Yeah, causeyou

get Typhoid, you got Starbrand, you got Red
Skull.
And

Cozy Snap (01:14:30):
Scar fits in there, and he just is gonna work and do
what Scar does.
And, I, man, okay.
Hold on, I'm telling you, it'snot the end of him.
Don't get him.
But it's not the interval.

I agree.
I agree.
Don't get him.
He might age like fine wine.
Maybe.
I don't know about fine.
like fine wine.
I don't know about fine wine.
He's gonna age like mid winelike that you get at a box.
Like do you buy wine at Walmartin the States?
He'll age like gas station wine.
I don't know.

Cozy Snap (01:14:53):
He'll get gas He'll age like gas station wine where
it's like It's like, it's goingto be better than it was, you
know, it'll be better to

feel something and it's there.
So you got it.
It's like when you're at the gasstation and you're hungry and
they got a slim Jim and you'rejust like, I know this sucks,
but

Cozy Snap (01:15:10):
it gives me substance.
I might as well have it.
Yeah, exactly.
Yeah.

That's it.
Yeah.
The the Thaddeus Ross, the slimJim of Marvel standards.
Yeah, we, yeah, absolutely.
We're selling them really hardhere.
Now, something that should notneed selling, sir, is Card
Mastery.
And man, I've got a lot to say,and I know you do too.
And, you know what, this is oneof those things where I want to
just preface this by saying thatas a whole, I believe that this

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is a positive addition to thegame.
I like what they've done.
I think that it has its place.
And I like the fact that it's,it's free and it's like a free
engaging system you can kind of,kind of engage with.
But, I'm sorry dude, this ain'tCard Mastery.
This is not any form of masteryif the only thing it's mastering
is maybe credit card mastery ButI think they've named it

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completely wrong and set theexpectations completely off.

Cozy Snap (01:15:59):
Yeah, I was going to I was looking over here I was
going to To one of my mastershere just to have it up on
screen.
Yeah, I mean I said it at theend of my OTA video.
I had a little Unplanned speechon, on Card Mastery.
There's a few things about it,right?
So, what I said in my review ofit is, number one, it obviously
does highlight what Snap doeswell, and that's like art

(01:16:20):
design.
And, and, and, and that.
Right?
We know the art was gonna dowell, props to the UI.
Okay, we're digging here alittle bit.
Probably the, all this looksfine, looks good to me.
I think the, the effects lookcool, the for the most part
these reactions, these are kindof cool.
There's a lot of duds, like withall, any, any girl that's blonde

(01:16:41):
in this game rip, becausethey're all the same, but like,
there's some that are really funand really funny and, and it's a
shame that a ton of people usethese things.
Hopefully this makes it peopleuse them more but.
I think where, where a lot of itfalls short is, number one, you
know, they worked hard to bringthis back into the game because
people wanted it.

(01:17:01):
People wanted it because when itwas advertised to come to the
game, it said imagine usingDeadpool and getting at the
whatever amount of power and youcan, you know, climb up the
mastery chart, right?
So that's why people wanted it,right?
So the way that they pitchedthat.
And I I said in my video wheretheir stance was like, We have a
lot of ways to reward players,and you can already get rewarded

(01:17:24):
by playing a card.
And so we wanted this to be adifferent way to reward players.
And I just, I think that's abunch of, a bunch of, a
hullabaloo, right?
Like, to me, that, I feel likewhat I said is in the game
cycle.
This was such a easy way to havereally cool engagement and There
are cards that I play so muchbro I play so much agent colson

(01:17:47):
and I only have them at likelevel 23 or whatever right and I
it's like I don't play thorReally ever, and I've got a
maxed out Thor, right?
So that to me, I is number one.
It's like, it doesn't showmastery of a card.
I wanna see a bounce player, andI wanna see that that guy plays
a lot of bounce.
Thus he has the mastery aroundit.

(01:18:07):
And so when you say it's a goodimplementation to the game, I
think sure.
But also they need to, itdoesn't, it just is Abu, it's
the same thing about Al albums,right?
You're like, oh, it's a goodimplementation.
You get free stuff from it.
But it just.
I just don't know what, I don'tknow, I'm not, I, I, They need
to, they need to add where youcan get low XP for playing the

(01:18:29):
card.
I think that fixes a lot of it,or rename it.
That's it.

Dude, a hundred percent, like, there is
no question this is named thewrong thing.
This is not character mastery.
This is like characterprogression.
Like, this is some, it's, it'snot mastery at all.
Like, okay, we talked about thisa long time ago, when character
mastery was fixed.
You talked about Smite.
I talked about Dota.
And Dota has, like if you haveDota Plus, you actually do a
level progression on thecharacters you play.

(01:18:53):
You get level progression forwinning games, right?
You get progression for losinggames, you get more for winning.
But what's interesting isthere's challenges that happen
every single week.
Basically the way the challengeswork, if you're playing a hero
that can like root other heroes,if you root two or more heroes
three times, You get like ahundred bonus XP for that week.
If you get like 10 kills orwhatever in a match, you get

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bonus XP.
If you accumulate like extrapower via, like, you know, if
you're Ironman and you double alocation up to 50 power, you get
a hundred extra, extra XP.
Not only that, then they havethese things called relics.
We're like, just like, Oh, everysingle time you perform a
certain action, you getadditional XP.
And it's all based on playingthe hero.

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And the way that works is thatwhen I see someone and they have
a level 30 on a hero in, in Dotaor in League of Legends or in
Smite and they're icons 30, Iknow that's not just a credit
card that they, they have extraskins and that's how they
progress that account.
They played that hero.
They legitimately know what'sup.
That hero could, might not bemeta, but if you have a level 30

(01:19:57):
Crystal Maiden or whatever inDota 2, I don't care if that,
that thing's meta or not.
That means you know how to playthat hero and you're going to be
effective on it.
Because that's what mastery is.
It's like you have accomplishedall these goals to showcase
that, yes, I am a balancedplayer.
There is a reason why my Toxinhas all these gold sparkles
around it.
It's because I have bounced somany cards with Toxin.

(01:20:17):
I've gotten him over 10 power somany times.
Or I've done all these things.
I have mastered this archetype.
I have mastered this card andI'm showcasing that today.
The only thing that you can useto master card mastery today is
your credit card.
And that's the only thing thatpisses me off.

Cozy Snap (01:20:32):
And people saying, well, like if you play a card a
lot, you're going to split it alot.
Like that's just not true.
Like in the, in the amount of XPyou're getting.
Or those initial splits, like itbeing retroactive is really
cool.
And I think the tech, theycouldn't figure out if I'm being
quite honest, I think theywanted it to be retroactive.
Deadpool getting 200 power in agame.
They had no way to figure outhow to make that retroactive.
And then they, then they havethis whole.

(01:20:54):
Hurdle to go through of likepeople are pissed at the redo
the things.
I would almost rather 20objective on Deadpool that I had
to redo do and not even almost Idefinitely would rather that The
blunt truth of this Alex is tome.
Okay, is that it's it's justit's another thing That is
another thing to get moreSpending and I it's just at this

(01:21:19):
point.
It's not even surprising to meand it just That's what it is.
Say what you will, it'scosmetic, I totally get it guys,
and feel the way you want tofeel.
I think that the way they didthe rewards track is cool, maybe
they could have thrown in theemotes, I don't know, whatever.
But, that's fine.
The bottom line though is, Ijust don't understand how, I

(01:21:39):
just don't understand, it, it,things must be bad financially
over there, I don't know, I justdon't know, or it's just at the
top that these are the decisionsthat are being made.
It's not hard to have made this.
Not about variants and not aboutmoney.
It just wasn't that hard.
And, and it is made that way.
In fact, it's made that way toso much of an extent that even,

(01:22:00):
like, this was the other thingthat I just was like, what the
heck, right?
So let's say Thor, cause I'vespent who knows how much on Thor
variants so I've had hismasteries all the way up and I
got my gold diamond.
Thing, which is cool, right?
I'm like, oh, nice.
I got my gold diamond thing andon release, dude, I don't know
about you, but I go over to my,my Thor and I'm like, okay, gold

(01:22:23):
Thor, red back.
Let's get this on.
Oh, wait, hold on.
Okay.
Well, let me go down to my, waita second.
Why can't I get my gold diamondson my gold back?
And then I'm like, oh my god,that just unlocks it as a base,
and then I have to split to getit, it, So, then you have what
essentially is, people who don'tspin to spin to mastery, and

(01:22:45):
then the people that do spin,Hey, cool, you gotta get the
gold back with this, and spin,It's a, it's a bunch of hocus
pocus, dude, it, it's soinfuriating, it's just, to me,
it's just like, I don'tunderstand it, man.
And this is where myfrustrations come from.
Two years do we have been thethe leaders cheerleaders for
this game in a lot of ways.
And, and it's at this point,it's just like, I don't know, I,

(01:23:08):
I, clearly a good chunk of mypresence is around this game,
and it just sucks that I have tobe negative about this kind of
stuff, because it's just obviousat this point, it's just a
bummer.

It is, and it's unfortunate, because like,
what you're essentially sayingis like, they diluted the
splits, so that if you want toeven get this with gold, It's
now even harder because there'sso many other, like, accidental
things with the spirals andstuff.
There's so much, which on paperis cool because like, there's so
many customization options.
But part of the customization ofMarvel Snap is mixing the flares

(01:23:43):
with the backs.
Like, that's the whole thing.
And now, if you unlock yourCharacter Mastery 30 Diamond
Stars, now you have to try tosplit into that.
It's so much harder and now it'sinvesting even further.
But the other side to that isnow you're doing splits on a
card.
It's already at thirties.
You're not getting credit forthe splits.
And it's like, Oh my gosh, likeyou're not actually progressing
any further.

(01:24:03):
You're just diving for splits,which is still cool, but it
would have been nice, especiallyat that level.
If you would have just been ableto apply the unlocked base.
Kind of crackles and stuff tothe backdrops that you get,
which, I mean, maybe there's areason, maybe like it creates
it, it gets rid of the hamsterwheel that they perhaps wanted,
but I absolutely agree.

(01:24:24):
It was really frustrating.
Like I do not have a singlecard.
I'm using the gold diamonds onthat I've unlocked because
there's no point like I havebetter.
I have ink splits God splits Igot all these splits with
crackles and gold andeverything.
They just simply look betterThere's no reason for me to use
the gold thing on the base thebase or in the background Like
it's just it's kind ofunfortunate.
It feels like you're They musthave known, like when they were

(01:24:46):
testing it, they must have knownpeople are going to want to do
this.
They know,

Cozy Snap (01:24:49):
and I think that's the thing.
I think you can sit here andsay, Well, it's fine that it
came to the game, right?
We got a lot of free stuff fromit.
And like, yes, you are correct.
But that doesn't mean it, itdoesn't mean that it could have
been Worlds Better.
Or if it was just called like,you know, Variant Super Plus or
something.
I don't know, like whatever,just anything other than the

(01:25:10):
whole card mastery.
And it's the build up to it,right?
And like, you guys wanted it, webrought it.
It you gotta call a spade aspade.
And this isn't being overlynegative, guys.
I would have said this two yearsago, I would have said it now
when it came out.
I, I think that, to me, youknow, used Mule Nier four times
to get Thor up to blank power issuch a cool thing.
Because then what that does isit creates an amazing

(01:25:31):
replayability loop for me toreally have that as an
objective.
Okay, I don't care about my rankanymore at infinite, right?
A lot of people get to infinite,they stop playing, or a lot of
people get to whatever becausethey've done their job.
But this is like, okay.
Oh, man.
I really want that Deadpool nextlevel.
Oh, okay.
So I've got to get Deadpool to60 power and I got to clone
that.
Okay.
Let me do a hundred plus games.

(01:25:53):
They would have had more, theywould have made more money
probably, or at least morepeople playing the game and
having that You know, statisticgo up, whether whoever looks at
it, if they did that, I wouldplay way more if I had these
objectives and these manythings.
And then if I see that Deadpool,I'm like, yo, props to that guy,
bro.
He did it.
He got that one.

(01:26:13):
He got, he got a 10, 000Deadpool, whatever that, you
know, like, that's insane.
That's really good.
Or he played him in over athousand games.
That was such a home run hit ofan idea.
And it turned into a variantsplits.
Yeah.

Yeah, no, it's disappointing, and even then,
like, so the variant splits arethe only thing that actually
progresses the experience of thecard that you actually have a
factor of like, Oh, I actuallyplay this card.
I'm able to split it more often.
That's the only thing.
They don't even include avatars.
Like, you fill, you fill ourcollection track with avatars
and garbage, and the avatarsdon't count towards the
character mastery.
That doesn't make sense to me.
That's a little disappointing.
Even if it was just 15 points orwhatever, just give me something

(01:26:49):
for these stupid ass avatarsthat honestly suck 99 percent of
the time.
Give me something for them.
I mean, first of all, there's,there's a couple of things as
well.
The bananas, I don't understandwhat the fascination with the
bananas is.
Like I'd maybe I just don't getit.
Maybe I'm an old man.
I don't get the bananas.
And there's even a thought tosay that if you could like,
let's say you're on the processof unlocking things, right?

(01:27:10):
I think it unlocks itautomatically for us on the
first get go, but like on newcards, I'm just not going to
unlock the first whatever numberof levels, because I was
thinking if I don't unlockbananas and all the garbage.
And I only unlock refraction atlevel 10 and everything above
it.
Do I increase the odds ofgetting good splits and good
flares?
Cause I, I'm just not evenincluding the bananas and the

(01:27:32):
garbage in the splits at all.
Like I'm not even unlockingthose.
So I, and if I'm just jumpingahead and unlocking those other
things, could that potentiallywork?
I don't think that's an intendedfunction of the design, but if
you're talking about dilutingall the good splits by having
all these so ho hum ones, thenlike, maybe that's an option.

Cozy Snap (01:27:49):
Yeah, the bananas crack me up, or the, the, the
spinning wheel, whatever,backgrounds on half of those

spinning wheels are cool with hip, hips
though.
Dan Hipstonks went up with thosespinning wheels.
There's a,

Cozy Snap (01:27:58):
like, like, to the point of what we could say is
cool about it, like, you know,point blank, there are some
really cool things that you canbuild from this, like the, the
art style and the customizationhas gone up tremendously.
Like, that's super cool.
Being where we are in the gameright now, I think that's my
whole point about it is That'swhere it feels like it just
doesn't, it doesn't matter asmuch, right?

(01:28:19):
It just doesn't, like, forinstance, like, Storm here with
there's like a stormybackground.
Like, dude, this is so cool.
I like, I love this.
Yeah.
This is such an idea.
But it's just the other thingsaround it that just disappoint.

Yeah.
And you know, it's unfortunatebecause like, I think that there
are a lot of really good thingsabout this, especially if you're
relatively free to play player.
And I, you know, I'm thinkingAlex, you just free to play
player.
This whole thing's pay to win onthe collection track.
I get it.
However, what I will say is thatlike for splits or cards where I
don't have many splits.
I actually found it interestingbecause, like, the refraction
effect that you unlock at level10, I think is really cool.

(01:28:56):
It's what foil should have beenthe whole time.
And there's cards I just, Idon't play a lot, but I might
have, like, gathered some, somevariants on, like Yellowjacket.
I got a bunch of Yellowjacketvariants, but I don't actually
play Yellowjacket, right?
But I'm able to create thatrefraction effect and actually
customize the card so it looksway better than the base ever
did, even though I honestlydon't play that card very much.
But then again, what's thatsaying about the card mastery?

(01:29:18):
I am not a master ofYellowjacket at all.
It takes me a second to evenremember what he does.
Like, bro, like, come on, youknow what I mean?
So it's, it's not living up tothe name or the hype.
Even though, honestly, you cansee that effort went into this.
You can see that, like, there'sartists that put their heart
into this.
Like, you know what I mean?
Like, there's some good stuffhere, but it's not character
mastery.

Cozy Snap (01:29:37):
Well, a couple things.
First of all, I will say this,for those that are watching
this, that this Stormback, thisone is actually sick, okay?
This one actually works reallywell, because this one doesn't
have a good, this doesn't have abackground, and this is
animated.
This is awesome.
This is This is one I would rep,no question.
Like, I don't need the gold,whatever, but besides the point,
Comic Con year one, which we'regoing on two years from, away
from, okay, was when we firstsaw the reaction kits, and they

(01:30:00):
said that every single characteris going to get a reaction kit.
So we're almost two years awayfrom the implementation after
the artwork was done.
Which is crazy to think about,right?
They also now have to commissionthis for every single card
coming to the game.
So that's also like a, whateverthey're gonna have to be putting
into.
As well as the emotes.
I just think, in general, theymissed the point of the emotes.

(01:30:21):
They missed the point of thereaction sets a little bit.
And it just took, took thattime.
Took a long time to get thosegoing.
Is the art great?
Yes, of course it is.
Because guess what?
It's Marvel Snap.
And they do a good job with allof these effects.
Blizzards, for those thathaven't seen them on cards, you
know, I'm popping some of theseup.
Confetti one's cool.
You got stuff like, hey, Jubileecard, throw this on there,
right?

(01:30:41):
They obviously kind of like,teed you up to do some really
cool and make them work.
And yeah, to your point, youknow, gold prism, this isn't the
best card to look at it, but,but all the, all the, all the
new ones to the galactic stormbackground, you can't really see
it here, but that's, that'sawesome.
But of course I can't do thegalactic storm background with
it, with the effect.

(01:31:02):
Right.
Because that's, I gotta wait forthat.
But yeah, I, I've said what Ineed to say here.
And I, at this point, it's like,it's just another thing, right?
Like it's just like, okay.
Well, it's here now it's here tostay.
So,

yeah, what I'll end this conversation on
was that fact that like one ofmy favorite things about Marvel
snap was that it felt like itlearned the lesson from games
that came before it.
Like we saw, like, I, I triedplay, I play a little bit of
Hurston here and there, and likethe length of the turns just
drags me down.
It's heart, it's heartbreakingto sit there, like in
battlegrounds for like 120seconds.
I'm like, are you kidding me?

(01:31:35):
120, I have like a book besideme.
I'm like, man, cause snap is sosnappy.
They learned lessons, right?
And then with character mastery,it's like, did no one play Dota
two?
Did no one play smite?
Did no one play anything elsewith these types of progression
systems?
They didn't learn the lessonsfrom the games that came before
them and it cost them here.
But you know what cozy?
I got great news.
We got some absolute bangerquestions.

(01:31:56):
For the snapchat mailbag and wegot a couple of marvel snap
ones, but you know, we don'tlike to start with the marvel
snap ones.
We like to start with gum punwho said in the 80s into the 90s
computer games had a 1 900number That you could call to
get info on how to complete ahard quest I spent a few bucks
now and then and I think they'rereferencing when we were
discussing the water temple inZelda being so difficult And I

(01:32:18):
remember being like having like1 800 numbers and stuff that you
could call to legitimately getadvice on how to beat things

Cozy Snap (01:32:24):
Oh, yeah, dude.
I watched actually something onit was on Twitter the other day
There was like a blast of thepast thing and this guy was
like, it's like hey, man I'mstuck here at the Zelda.
There's the white sword.
I see it I don't know how to doit and the guy's job was like to
tell him Yeah, how to get thesword I thought that was so
funny.
And what a what a lost Era, Iwould call a number every now
and then like hey, I see themastery and i'm playing this

(01:32:47):
card a lot But it doesn't let meget it.
Do you know why this ishappening?
Mr?
Ben brought a second dinner.
But yeah, I that Blast the pastand also a lot of zelda fans But
I could talk we could do a wholepodcast on zelda if you guys
wanted to damn it.
Love the game

But he thought of old Zelda Ryuk 00 said you
guys talked about the Zeldagames for a small minute and my
spirits lifted Still my absolutefavorite series even I'm not if
I'm not hot on the switch gamesand it's funny cuz like Zelda
Ocarina of Time and Majora'sMask like they Really are some
of my favorite games of all timeLike they they like define my
childhood to some degree like Iremember playing those games

(01:33:23):
long and talking about like Callthe 1 800 number.
I remember, tell me if you'veever done this before, I
remember going to likeconvenience stores and stuff,
and like reading, like, guides.
Like, meeting kids, going in thestore, reading the guide,
figuring out how to dosomething, and then putting it
back on the shelf.
Like, we were the reason whythey started bagging them, so
you couldn't do

Cozy Snap (01:33:41):
that.
Oh yeah, dude, for sure.
Man.
Yeah, for those that, what, playZelda out there, let's see, some
of the, some of the corememories.
First of all, the music'sinsane.
Going, the Forest Temples willalways be one of my favorites.
Ocarina of Time, the music trackfor that, I, I, I could listen
to while I work out.
An absolute fantasticmasterpiece.
I think Twilight Princess isunderrated.
It is a very Very solid game.

(01:34:03):
The dungeons weren't as welldone.
I think that you have the olddungeon design, and you have the
new switch design, and how theygive you the freedom.
And I think both work, andthey're both different.
But, to me, you have thegameplay loop of dungeon and
item in the dungeon.
That, to me, slaps.

Nintendo if you want to make like a billion
dollars easy like easy money Allyou got to do is remaster and
not even just remaster talkinglike fully remake Zelda Ocarina
of Time add some new flares andflashes in there, but generally
take that game make it 4k andbeautiful and Sell it for 500
500

Cozy Snap (01:34:38):
dude.
I got a story for you.
Actually, this will crack you upDexter and I were doing the
escape room.
I don't know A few months back,okay, and it was like this
egyptian themed escape room andwe go in there And there's like
pyramids and all this stuffwhatever and we that the lady's
like, hey, this is one of ourhardest There's some puzzles
that you really have to thinkabout.
Okay, so we're in here and weget into this one room with a

(01:34:59):
with Like a a tomb and there'slike some other things There's a
giant mirror in there and thenthere's like a handheld mirror
on the ground And there's thisgiant sunbeam coming from the
top of the ceiling That comesdown and then there's like a
sarcophagus on the other sideand Dexter who's also an avid
Zelda fan We both looked at eachother and I was like, bro.
Did you play Ocarina of Time?
He's like, yeah I'm like you usethe mirror shield.

(01:35:21):
He's like, yeah, and I'm like100 percent I'm gonna need you
to put that put the mirror to meand beam the reflection of the
Sun to the sarcophagus and weopened up that door dude within
Seconds, and then we got out theladies like how the hell did you
guys know to do that?
And I'm like It was the shadowtemple,

like

Cozy Snap (01:35:41):
just, it was good to say good old days though.
Definitely man.
Good old days.

Yeah, definitely the good old days.
And let's get a Marvel snapquestion there from cypher, who
says, I really liked the Lokicollector in my early days of
snap.
And that was like the firstedition of the Loki deck where
you play collector and ramp up,I remember first hearing about
it being a problem and it reallymade me sad that everyone hated
my favorite deck.
I included this question becauseI thought it was interesting

(01:36:06):
from a standpoint of like,there's a lot of decks that we,
you know, we might get sick ofseeing in the meta here and
there, but like we lose sight ofthe fact there's like casual
players or people on the canjust playing Marvel's now
because they enjoy playing itand stuff like that.
And Loki is their favoritearchetype.
And then they open up their gameone day and, It's just not the
same card ever again, becauselike competitive people ruined

(01:36:27):
it.
There's a lot of players whoplay the game so casually.
There's a ton of you that listenright now that aren't
necessarily the most hardcorepeople.
You're like, I finish my dailiesmost of the times every day, you
know?
Like that's the kind of levelyou play and that's cool.
And sometimes when these nerfshappen, it's like you're
impacting players.
Like the top end of the meta andthe sweats and the people that

(01:36:47):
like really care about that onepower on this card and the one
power on that card.
It's like, well, dude, I wasjust taking a dump and I wanted
to play Loki and you ruined itfor me.
I shout out to those people thathave to live through that.

Cozy Snap (01:36:59):
Yeah, I feel like they do a pretty good job.
Sometimes like there's a bighead scratchers, like they
clearly did that just to Tosolve the you know, they're
really probably most investedplayers, I guess is the the
term.
And there's not So many cardsthat completely got changed like
loki is one that like thatyou're right That was an example

(01:37:21):
that like is gone like that Youcan't do that anymore and there
are I would say there's ahandful of those that that have
happened, you know it's yeah, Ithink that's a tough thing about
A lot of games that do that andif it was a problem, I think I
would we would call it out.
I think they do a fairly goodjob.
Not to say that emotions arevalidated there because it does

(01:37:43):
suck when they take awaysomething you enjoy to play.
But yeah, I think they do okaythere.

Yeah, I don't think they're actually trying to
like, look at all those casualplayers playing Loki, F you bud,
and they just kill it, you know,it's not that their goal is,
they clearly care about thecompetitive integrity of the
game.
And I think that comes fromlike, well, Glenn's experience
in magic and stuff like that.
Like the competitive side isimportant, but there's a lot of
people that don't play MarvelSnap competitively.
That's not why they play thisgame.
They want to play a card battlerwith superpowers.

(01:38:08):
And sometimes when you take awaythose superpowers for the
purpose of balance, gamers get alittle hurt.
Then it takes us to our nextquestion from Dave Dream of
Dumplings, and it reads, Alex, Ilove ya bud, but there have been
at least 20 times you have said,we don't have that in Canada.
And I'm like, like hell wedon't.
I get called out on this all thetime when I've said like, oh, we
didn't have that in Canada orwhatever.

(01:38:29):
And I was like, bro, like,where, where did you shop?
Like, that's clearly still inCanada.
Like I, I almost act like Canadaand the States are like, Like
separated by a massive ocean orsomething like that.
Whereas we have so much of thesame stuff.
I do get called out prettyfrequently about you know, I
don't even remember what thiswas specifically about.
Like, what did I say on the lastpod where I was like, Oh, we
don't have that in Canada.
I think it might've been theshows.

(01:38:50):
Samurai Jack.
Yeah, it was probably that.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I think it was Samurai Jack.
Yeah.

Cozy Snap (01:38:53):
I've, I've, I've seen that in like candy tier lists
and stuff.
I think that's when I see it themost.
I do want to say, I also dreamof dumplings, so I like his
name.

You know what?
I got dumplings at Costco andhonestly, they tasted like
garbage.
I was not happy with them.
There's some things at Costcothat just don't, I was going to
say, I mean,

Cozy Snap (01:39:07):
you said it in the name there.
I got dumplings at Costco.
I'm not shocked.
They weren't a bangers.

Really?
I feel like caught their mind.
I don't want to get into thewhole Kirkland signature
argument.
Kirkland signature is supposedto be the best, no matter what
it is, no matter what brand isincorporating Kirkland
signature, when I buy Kirklandsignature, I expect it to be the
absolute best of the best.
They should be negotiating thebest price.
Should be negotiating the bestquality.
And sometimes they let me downthe dumplings actually, he's not

(01:39:34):
even a Kirkland Signature brand,whatever.
Let's move on from, from theKirkland Signature discussion
with the last question of theday coming from Eddie Zilla, and
this one almost brought a tearto my eye cozy.
Cause Marvel snaps going througha lot of changes and Eddie said,
it will be a great time to be aMarvel snap player.

Cozy Snap (01:39:51):
It will, as soon as we get that draft mode, it will
be, I think someone said, try togo a whole episode without
saying draft mode.
So there it is.
Draft mode.

It will be when we get character mastery.
That's, that's what I'm reallywaiting for.
Draft mode, character

Cozy Snap (01:40:04):
mastery, first edition cards.
Yeah, yeah.

First edition cards, a series drops on the
regular.
Just, just general, like, that'sjust, man, you know what I'm
saying?
I'm not saying we're huffing,hoping all the time.
I know snaps been through a bitof a rough spell, but you know
what cozy.
We still love the game.
We still have fun.
And we still appreciate that.
Each one of you guys are herewith us on the Snapchat.
And guess what?

(01:40:27):
We'll see you on that next one.

Cozy Snap (01:40:29):
You guys have a good one.
Have a great one.
Until the next one.
Happy snapping.

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