Top Cards In August | Cosmic Ghost Rider Breakdown | The Snap Chat Ep. 146

What's going on with Xorn's popularity in the new move meta? How is the current state of Snap evolving? Where do Cozy and Alex stand in their final Elixir rankings? Join Cozy Snap and Alexander Coccia as they chat about this and more on this episode of The Snap Chat and every week as they discuss all things Marvel Snap.

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Episode Transcript

Cozy (00:00):
What's going on guys?
And welcome back to anotherepisode of the Snapchat.
We are joined here towards theend of August, post-fall in one,
and on the heels of a new seasoncoming up.
Alex, your haircut looking greatas always.
How we doing?

Alex (00:16):
Oh, thanks buddy.
I appreciate it.
Listen, I'm just trying to keepup with you.
I mean, you get a haircutliterally every week, and so
like every day I get prettydisheveled.
Yeah.
Almost every day I get prettydisheveled and I'm like, I gotta
keep up with Cozy, gotta get ahaircut.
I go, I went to like thecheapest possible place I could
find.
Like it basically, like I'm, I'mwaiting to get a haircut and
it's just a bunch of like, kidswaiting to get their haircut
prior to going to school andstuff.

(00:36):
And I sat down and they're like,what do you want?
I'm like, I don't know, justlike, like the haircut.
Shorter.
Shorter is good.
Where'd you

Cozy (00:43):
go?
Wait, where'd you go?

Alex (00:45):
Uh, the place is called uh, super Cuts.
Oh.
Which in Canada is like theequivalent of like your bargain
bin.
We have, we got super Do youhave super cuts?
We got great

Cozy (00:53):
clips.
We got super cuts, yeah.
Yeah.
I tend to actively avoid them.
They're usually like attached tolike a subway.
And, uh, like maybe, uh, you getthe haircut first.
I think

Alex (01:02):
this one, the subway app is attached to some sort of, uh,
fast food place.
I can't remember what it'scalled.
It's like, I don't know man.
It's not, it's not like amassive chain.
It's like a smaller chain inCanada and I can't quite
remember the name.
They sell, like, you save a alot of money going there

Cozy (01:14):
though.

Alex (01:15):
You save a lot of money going,

Cozy (01:16):
you know what though?
The quarterback, well, I, Iguess he was the of the Falcon.
You know Kirk Cousins?
You know who Kirk?
Kirk Cousins is?
Yeah, I know Kirk Cousins.
Did you

Alex (01:23):
say the Falcons?

Cozy (01:24):
He was on Minnesota.
Well, he was on Minnesota.
I was on the Falcons Kins.
Yeah.
So RG three Hear me out.
You like that, right?
Uh, hear me out.
There's a quarterback show onNetflix.
They like follow thequarterbacks, Kirk Cousins, he
just signed a one 140,000,003year contract, goes to Great
Clips every single month, goesto Great Clips, doesn't go
anywhere else.
He goes there.
He likes it.
Sometimes man, just being a dad,like it's part of being a dad.

(01:46):
Like you have your certainchecklist, great clips, super
cuts.
It's all in the same, you know,it's all in the same thing.

Alex (01:52):
Yeah.
Not sponsored by the way, butnot, yeah.
Yeah.
Did you imagine a great, andactually it becomes very clear
though, because like I was thereand they actually messed up my
si they cut my sideburn way tooshort.
And they're like, oh no, they'relike, that was an accident.
I'm like, it's okay.
It'll grow back.
And then like, they went to fixthe other side and they cut that
one too short too.
And then it turned into thislike race of like, just cut.
So like, I'm glad I'm wearing myheadphones.

(02:13):
'cause my, my sideburns are likeliterally three inches shorter
than they're supposed to be.

Cozy (02:17):
I'm just gonna send this to the Great clips, super cuts.
Uh, CEO and just this little,this clip and just say, we could
sell you millions.
Sponsor us.
We need to find the weirdestsponsors.
Man.
I think it'd be fun.
We haven't, we, we should tryharder to get more, but we
don't,

Alex (02:33):
yeah.
We need to like explore that.
People may not realize this, butin large part, this podcast for
the hundreds of episodes we'vedone is completely unsponsored.
And I know a lot of othersponsors, like, they put like a
lot of like.
They put like a lot of like, uh,even, um, like even in the audio
side, they put a lot of stuffin.
We've never done that.
We should actually explore that.
We should, but who we probablyshould between,

Cozy (02:54):
between Russell and the kid who's, who's doing that?
You doing that?
Am I doing that?
Maybe I should do it.
I probably should do it.
I don't know.
One of us,

Alex (03:00):
maybe we can both do it.
We can take turns doing it.

Cozy (03:02):
I, yes, I, and I love the shirt choice again, by the way.
Playing, playing Blue, notAdidas.

Alex (03:08):
Actually.
Tomos sponsored.
This was actually a sponsor.
This was into the am Theysponsored us.
Uh, and uh, by us, I mean theysponsored uh, me and I think
they did something with Registoo.
I don't quite remember.
But, um, but yeah, and I, it'sfunny, it was one of those CI
circumstances.
Again, this video is notsponsored by into the am but I
actually, like, they sent mesome product and I did a little
integration for them.

(03:28):
And I know that like a lot ofpeople think like, ah, they're
just hyping up this, theseclothes because like they
pretend to like'em or whatever.
Like, I actually like the stuffI got.
I was like, yo, this shirt'sactually comfy as hell, man.
I like it.
And it just fits perfectly.
And so like, I've been actuallyunironically wearing them
despite the fact that theyactually had sponsored, uh, some
content to mine like a couplemonths back.

Cozy (03:48):
Well, Alex, head to toe guys, he got his hair cut to his
shirts.
We're working our way down thebody to kick off the Snapchat
today.
You boxers your briefs kindaguy.
You know, we, uh, we can kickoff there.
Don't answer that.
Listen buddy.
We had a, uh, a week of MarvelSnap, fall in one was definitely
one of the cards.
This season I think is, is agreat one.
I mean, we, can we, we can, wecan't go into it.

(04:10):
If you want to just talk about,you look at him in the middle of
this image here and he's, he'slooking yoked man.
He is looking yoked.
Is he feeling yoked?
Alex, what were your thoughts?
I think, uh, I think he ended upbeing kind of where we thought
now.

Alex (04:24):
Uh, I think fallen one's mid.
I, when I was playing, I waslike, this card, it's not great.
And like, I think it's fun.
I don't even think it's fun.
I didn't think it.
Cool.
Enjoy playing them that much.

Cozy (04:35):
There's a couple things that you could do to get the
energy kind of high and it waslike kind of different and fun
and, you know, you play'em in,you know, Sherry and whatnot.
Yeah.
It, it, it kind of worked, butit, it, it obviously was not a
good card, but I think it was anew way to play for like 10
minutes.

Alex (04:51):
Yeah, I know.
It, it was interesting.
And, uh, I think that this isthe kind of card, which by the
way, according to on Tappystatistics as a recording
massively negative too below 50,right?
Is he below 50% For sure.
It's 44%.
Yeah.
Hundred percent.
44% went rate.
Yep.
So it's not doing great.
I actually saw, the best I sawwas ironically my brother I was
streaming.
I read it into him and then mybrother, he was, uh, he was
trying like the fall and stuff.

(05:12):
He was actually kind of excitedfor it.
He ended up getting 41 energy onturn six.
But then he is just hold, like,I'm like, yeah, but then what
are you holding?
Yeah.
Right.
Like, you're not, he is justholding, not like, it's not,
it's not worth it.
It's not like you have a sunspoton the board or, so it's like,
yeah, you got the 41 energy withyour asur, like, you know, combo
and everything like that with,uh, sym Spider-Man, but like,
then what?
Yeah, right.
And then nothing happens.

Cozy (05:32):
It like, works in magic or whatever.
You have like a draw enginemaybe, and you got some extra
lamb man going down, but Yeah.
And in this, it's like, what areyou gonna do with it?
I, I kind of feel like all thecards we thought was gonna do
good did well with it.
The search was fantastic.
Very and gang.
And there's gonna be cars, aswe've said.
There's gonna be cards that comeout that maybe can have a new

(05:53):
passport.
We just got Mr.
Fantastic.
So I don't know how many morelike card power stuff we're
gonna get in the, you know,shirt short term, but this is
definitely gonna be somethingthey visit back on.
But yeah, it is just weird thatwe ended the podcast saying
like, you know, Sarah's just, itis just such a safe option.
Sarah is Sarah, why would youplay this?

Alex (06:12):
Yeah, Sarah's such a great card and I think the only thing
saving the fallen one from fromanybody coping and hoping, which
I know you're out there in thecomments and let us know, like,
don't get me wrong.
Like if you got a deck that'sworking for you, like bless your
heart man, go for it.
Right.
You know what I mean?
It's just on aggregate hard.
Yeah.
Bless your heart.
On aggregate, the fallen one'snot doing great, but here's the
thing the fallen one has nonatural tech against it right

(06:32):
now.
So like Sarah obviously hasTriple M, like, you know, rogue
enchanter not Yeah.
Oh, enchanters actually as well.
You know, red Guardian.
There's all these ways tointeract with Sarah, whereas
with the fallen one there is notech piece for this.
And so what I would suspect isprobably gonna happen is if this
card underperforms, they buff itto a five six, which is a
massive buff'cause it doubledips on its power and then they

(06:54):
plan for a release that likedeals with opponent energy, uh,
more so than something like aRed Hulk does.
You know what I mean?

Cozy (07:02):
Yes.
Uh, I also have a quick questionabout the and this is, this is
the stuff that I just happilydon't get caught up with much
anymore, but I saw it, I did seeit.
Were they offering packs on thisguy but on different dollar
amounts with like,

Alex (07:20):
so I know you're referring to it's super cringe.
I don't know why they did it,and I hope is it they kind of
gave their heads a shake.
Basically what happened was isonce you got the card, it popped
up with a, like a popup.
Like, Hey, you just got thefallen one.
Would you like a spicy variant?
That looks way better than likethe hamstrung art we made for
the base art, because I'mconvinced those artists can do

(07:41):
way better than what they'redoing for the bass art.
Sure.
And I feel like, did somethingdon yo, just make it worse, bro.
Dumb it down.
Make it worse so we can sell thevariant.
I mean, and then so they offerthe fallen one and, but like my
price was totally different thanother people in chat and stuff
like that.
And I, I believe someone onReddit actually made a
comparison and they were like,like a massive range of prices
for no reason.

(08:01):
And it's like you were just kindof getting more boosters like
yay boosters, you

Cozy (08:06):
know, do.
And now, okay, so maybe, yeah,maybe I saw that wrong, but
surely this can't be a thing.
I'm about to say something.
I need you to tell me.
This is not a thing.
Did they give borders to topplayers?
But you had to, you had to payfor them.
Is this right?
Like there's no way this islike, this feels so, like I

(08:28):
gotta be, there's, I probablymisunderstood this, but

Alex (08:30):
I saw that somewhat disconnected.
Cozy is so funny to me becauselike, it allows these
conversations to happen.
So basically what happens islike, yeah, so if you get to
like infinite and stuff likethat, and if like depending on
your rank and stuff, you get theopportunity, you get the
privilege of spending money onexclusive borders.
That honestly they do look cool,but yeah, you're, you're paying

(08:52):
up son.
Don't get me wrong.
You're getting the opportunityto purchase something.
Yes, that is true.

Cozy (08:57):
The difference is like, yeah, following new cars
awesome.
When I'm like seeing stuff on, Iread it and I just, it, I'm so
in disbelief that I'm like, Idon't even want to go down the
pipeline of what this is.
That's so crazy to me.
You so their best players arelike, congrats, you guys are
killing it.
Here's something you can buy.
It's just, it is the it is justsuch a, it's just such a, it's

(09:18):
just such a secondary thing todo.
I just don't understand.
Uh, it's funny, I thought Imisheard

Alex (09:22):
it on the patch note.
The, I, again, you kind ofbrought this up.
A while ago, it might've beenwhen we were talking with the
Regis, but like now I keep aneye on the patch note, E otes at
the bottom, and I just dielaughing.
I Oh, they're great.
Like the trash can.
The l like all, I'm like, oh mygosh.
Whoever is, whoever's like theyget creative has notifications
on, and it was like putting inlike seeding all those Emos is

(09:42):
doing God's work because it's sofucking Yeah.
Like I'm trying to, obviously Ilove this game and I want them
to get those doubles, but whenthey throw out an L and then
like, you just see the, it'sjust so funny.
I just, I laugh.
I I need to laugh though.
I need that.
Yeah.
So, so thank you for doing thatto us.
You

Cozy (09:58):
uncomfortable laughter.
This is a bit off the beatenpath for a second.
I do have a question.
You said bless your heartearlier, which I haven't heard
that since I was like, in myTexas days, like, it's a very,
like, it's a southern thing tosay a little bit like, like if
someone was like a POS human,like, like my mom wouldn't be
like, they're a POS, they'd belike, oh, they need extra grace.
Required, you know, like the,the nice way to say someone's a

(10:19):
a horrible person.
Did you grow up in a strict,because like Canada, I don't
understand the demographic,right?
Like south, there's the southhere, there's the, you know, you
know, there's the Midwest,there's different like kind of
stigmas or what, what is what, Idon't like this.
Where did you grow up?
What's, uh, you, I don't knowwhere you grew up, first of all,
just because of the way you knowthings is, I, I swear you grew

(10:40):
up in Willy Wonka's Palace.
Like I have no idea where youcame from, but what were

Alex (10:45):
you strict household?
Oh yeah, man, my parents areright off the boat.
Italians, man.
Um, my dad came here when he waslike 19.
My mom came here when she was ababy.
Uh, my dad stole an extremelythick accent to this day.
Like my wife has a real hardtime understanding him half the
time.
And, um, yeah, like when I wasgrowing up my dad would be like,
yo, like we're gonna, we'regonna go on a little day trip,

(11:07):
get your friends on the street.
My, my buddy Mike and all of uswould all get together and we're
like, Hey, where are we going?
And my dad would put us in likethis, like beat up minivan.
We'd drive out and we'd be in atomato field, and he is like,
all right, start pickingtomatoes.
We need like three bushels.
And then we'd like pick all thetomatoes and then we'd go back
to the garage and he would boilthem and we'd peel them and
stuff like that.
We'd make, uh, we'd make sauce.
And so, yeah, like I, I camefrom like an Italian household,

(11:29):
extremely strict.
Like if I, dude.
My dad told me straight up,right?
Like my dad told me straight up,like, if, if I got like a, like
a tattoo or something, or if Igot like a ear piercing, like it
was go time, like bring, bringthe box, go time.
Not even like son,

Cozy (11:44):
I'm, I'm disappointed.
Let's just go right to the,let's just go right to the ring.
I'm gonna throw a couple mictime.
So like, let me, we'll go likecategory by category.
So like movies where you likeand it made no sense in the
south, right?
Like it, we could watch, I couldwatch a, an absolute glorious
bloodiest, uh, serial killer.
You name it with gore and blood.

(12:04):
But as soon as Boom popped up,it's over.
Like the whole, I'm grounded fornine weeks, the whole thing.
What,

Alex (12:10):
where were you on that?
So my I mean I was like theeasiest kid in that sense
because I was like verystudious.
I didn't watch anything.
Even to this day, I don't watchhorror movies.
They just don't, I'd ratherwatch a Disney movie.
Like I would not, yeah, that'sfine, but would not, like, I
don't watch any of that stuff,so it was never even an option
really.
Um, music, I didn't reallylisten to anything with like,
swearing or anything like that.

(12:31):
Um, you didn't listen to likerap or like, like Lincoln Park
was like the edges, even likeGreen Day throughout a

Cozy (12:35):
FBO for no

Alex (12:36):
reason.
Every now and then.
Yeah.
I think the craziest thing I hadwas, I remember in elementary
school I was in like grade sevenor eight and that was when Harry
Potter came out.
It was called the PhilosopherStone in Canada, I think in the
state it's called the SorcererStone, whatever.
But anyways, I remember readingit and we were like, we got like
six chapters in and then theyall got taken away from us.
Oh yeah.
They got taken away from usbecause one of the moms said it

(12:58):
was like teaching us likewitchcraft and like, it was
like, like devil's work and allthis stuff.
Oh, it definitely came fromthat.
You, you, so you saw that youexperienced that as well.
We're in the same bracket oflike Harry Potter books getting
ripped from our hands.
A hundred percent.

Cozy (13:10):
A hundred percent.
Like I, I had it day one, I'mreading it and then yeah, mom
finds it.
I might as well just be puttinghexes on people.
Like let, but then I could playPokemon with evolutions and,
and, and, and, and pocketdemons.
Right.
They don't care.
And the same, same one for, wow,this is when I was younger.
Right.
Obviously they got older, theygot less strict, but like World
of Warcraft, demon magic oldschool rule, old school scape or

(13:34):
just scape at the time, theycouldn't tell.
It was just Pixel.
They're like, yeah, it's fine.
There's magic in the game, butit's fine.
So there was, it had to, therewas a very careful balance.
But yeah, I was definitely onthe note.
Witchcraft

Alex (13:45):
Dream.
I can see Cozy playing World ofWarcraft on an RP server getting
married to some like.
Oh yeah, the person they metonline.
See, that's something you woulddo.

Cozy (13:53):
I would hide it too.
I had to hide it all, man.
I had to get, I got like, I wasrooting Harry Potter man, like
with my other book behind it,like, I don't know, like the
dictionary or, or something.
So you, but you were just astraight line kid across music.
Music.
That one got me, that one's kindof crazy to me.
Like you just didn't listen toanything like edgy?
Not really,

Alex (14:13):
no.
No.
I, okay.
There was the only edgy thing Iliked couples.
Like what were you doing?
No, I didn't.
Um, there was a point in timewhere Need for Speed Underground
was really popular with myfriend group and we played a lot
of it on PC and I was like, youcan do drag races.
I dunno.
It was a really cool game forthe time.
Good one.
And, uh, little John's Get Lowwas on that soundtrack and that
song stuck in my head for like agood two years.

(14:35):
That's a good one.
So that's probably the edges.
And just those racing gameswould

Cozy (14:39):
be completely G-rated except for the girls that would
wave the flags at the beginning.
It's just like they would justlike get the whole game, would
get an m rating just for thegirls that waved the flag at
the, at the beginning of thegame.
Boxing games were the same.
Yeah.
The

Alex (14:50):
girl, the rink girl.
Yeah.

Cozy (14:51):
Alright.
Alright.
That tells me a little bit moreabout the childhood of, of Alex
Kocher.
I needed to be aware of, of allof it.
It also makes sense why youstill don't watch movies as an
adult.
Like, it completely we're, we'rekind of, we've come full circle.
We've hit all phases.
Phase four, phase five.
Moving on.
I guess speaking of, uh, evenanything Marvel and saying
phases we should move on to toour, our card of the week, the

(15:12):
new card, Alex and my friend, Iguess we'll go to this screen
for the first time.
What, uh, what are we thinkingman?
What are we thinking about?
The five seven cosmic ghostwriter.
Gotta say love the logo on thebottom already.
The art is killer as well.
Yeah, it's good On reveal.
Remove the text from front rowenemy cards here and.

(15:33):
I dig it.
We got a new little tech piecehere, bud.
And, uh, you want to, you wannakick us off?
I can go, you can go whateverwith the star rating.

Alex (15:41):
Yeah.
Yeah.
So I was thinking like right offthe rip, like when I first
previewed this, I came in at 4.5stars, however that was before
Ghost was introduced with itsnew text.
And we needed something toreally deal with the end of turn
strategies.
There is a concerted effort withsecond dinner, I believe, to
make five costs more viable.

(16:02):
Yeah.
Making China, I, I wouldn't besurprised if we start seeing
more good five costs because wehave really good four costs and
we have insane two costs, right?
And everything else seems to belagging behind a bit.
In particular the five costs.
And when you have five costs,sucking cards like, uh, Jennifer
Kale don't make sense, right?
Cards like electrode don't makesense.
And so you need to kind of likemake these five costs better.

(16:24):
'cause like if I'm make anelectro deck, I'm still putting
just vanilla vision in.
You know what I mean?
Even though I don't really playthose decks anymore, you know
what I mean though?
Cosmic Ghost Rider I think is aphenomenal tech card and it
looks as though ghosts rework isnot necessarily being used.
I think the fear of Ghost took alittle bit of the end of turn
stuff outta the meta at topechelons of the MMR, you're

(16:46):
still seeing a lot of it beingplayed.
Its win rates are stillexcellent.
Its cube rates are stillexcellent, but from a meta share
perspective, according to OnTap, it's gone down
significantly.
But Cosmic Ghost Rider answers alot of those questions.
It will rip away the text.
Of cards like Invisible WomenFirst Steps, who's been
incredibly problematic.
It's essentially Red Guardianacross the front row.
Um, so I do think that as acatchall tech piece, this is a,

(17:09):
a particularly strong card.
I don't think, because the endof turn meta has kind of calmed
down a bit.
I'm willing to go down to afour, but I think this is a very
good card.

Cozy (17:19):
Yeah.
I, I was gonna say around four,four and a half as well.
I mean, you're getting a cardthat can hit two cards, right.
That obviously tend to be on thelower side, but there's ways to
go around that and to make it towhere they're more valued cards.
Also, just a way to kind of shutdown what has been more and more
popular is kind of mega lanesand it could get value in so
many different ways as, assimple as like, getting rid of

(17:41):
ongoing text or spectrum deck,whatever, like little things to
help it, even when it doesn'tget its huge value, I would say.
More often than not, you'regonna get the value out of it,
even though it's only sevenpower, which I like a, a, a ton
to, and, and trying to usesomething like eight kill monger
is fine, right?
To be able to then open space onsomething.
Maybe they played cheap and thenit pushes a card up and then you

(18:01):
could play it down.
Like there's ways I feel like,to set him up for more success
as well.
There is, I have one card Ithink is really cool with this
that I think works extremelywell, and it's probably what
you're thinking as well.
I don't know, maybe there's onlylike, because this, because this
is a general tech card, I feellike it's a little bit less,
like, okay, there's 90 synergieswe can spit out.

(18:22):
But I think there's one reallygood one.

Alex (18:24):
Okay.
I'm actually interested inlearning listening to what you
have to say, because for me alot of it is what does it turn
off?
And that's kind of what I'm mostexcited for.
So I'd, I'd like to hear yourpitch first because I do have a
list, but, uh.
You're kind of, peaking myinterest.

Cozy (18:37):
So you, you mentioned Gen Jennifer, right?
And you're like, okay, yeah,well this is making fives
better.
And we kind of saw that a littlebit with fall in one, right?
Like people were doing, like pixeven and whatever, just trying
to play these fives earlier andlike, yes.
Uh, I think they've been tryingto make five costs better for
the last two years at Snap.
It's just, it's, it's adifficult cost.
I feel it.
Is it because you got six beingso strong?
I think Luna Snow is probablythe best synergy card with this

(19:00):
because you are ramping to getto plate early, right?
Bro, you're putting the icicleYes.
That's call.
You're putting, you're puttingthe the opponent's lane you can
shut down in the exact same veinof being able to ramp into this
thing, plus whatever else was inthat le I think it's just a
really cool combo that is ano-brainer.
Makes sense.

(19:21):
And I love Luna Snow to beginwith.
Three six, I mean, everything isgoing for it.

Alex (19:25):
I like that.
That's a nice offensiveutilization.
'cause it becomes a bit of aclog piece too.
Naturally.
There is a chance that theicicle ends up on the, the back
row and that's okay.
'cause you are gonna be thendisabling two of their cars if
you so choose.
So that's, that's fine too.
Right.
You're not clogging necessarily,but you are gonna be hitting two
of their cards.
Yeah, that's, that's a greatramp option.

(19:45):
I, I like that a lot.
And I don't think there's manypeople that play more Luna Snow
than me.
It's actually one of the cards.
I do have a God split on likegold, on gold crackles and
everything like that.
'cause I legit love Luna Snow.
I fun card when they buffed itto three six.
I'm like, guys, this is crazy.
Yeah.
Like, this is a phenomenal card.
And so, uh, I love that call.
I love it.
And um, I think that's one ofthe ways where like this card
could perhaps excel because ithas this like evergreen

(20:09):
interaction where, like Stardustfor instance, we're seeing a
couple decks here and there useStardust.
But Stardust has like thiseffect that like, if it's, if
it's not doing anything, it'sjust not doing anything.
This you're not playing cards.
You're not playing Patriotdecks, like you're not playing
cards and just putting crapdown.
You're putting good cards down,you're putting Mr Fantastic
First Steps down.

(20:29):
You're, you're playing surges,you're playing Captain Carter's
and Cosmic Ghost Rider clapstheir cheeks.
And like, that's why I thinkthat this card feels much more
evergreen as a tech piececompared to something like a
Stardust, which is very, very,very niche.
This card, just like RedGuardian, it feels like a
catchall from a techperspective.
And so, uh, I do like that callfor Luna Snow.

(20:51):
That's great.
But like, I really thinkdefensively it destroys a lot of
really solid meta cards rightnow.

Cozy (20:57):
For sure.
I think defensively it doesreally good and we've seen
before, and sometimes it doesn'twork, sometimes it does, like
with Mobius, but like whenever apiece can work offensively and
defensively is when it reallycooks.
So even having one synergy ofthe Luna Snow is enough to be
like, okay, I can get that comboif I need.
Like, if, if that happens,awesome.
And if not, to your point, yeah,it just works.
It just works so welldefensively that this can plug

(21:19):
into so many decks now.
E every now and then you'regonna have these times where
it's like you're just gonna getthat bad p whatever that
happens, to, to anything.
You can get to Shung Xi and theydon't have high power.
Right.
Like whatever it might be.
But I do feel like the fiveseven might, might be just right
for this guy and in a such acompetitive time in Snap between
the cards in the deck, I thinkyou can wear in a spot for sure.

Alex (21:42):
I think the reason why it's five seven is'cause if it's
five eight again, think aboutwhat vision does, right?
Yep.
Five eight is such a fair statline for a five drop, that
there's almost no downside toincluding a catch-all tech piece
like this into your deck.
Like even when you think aboutwhat, like, oh, if we actually,
if we think like even the thinglast month right?
Was released and that was a goodfive drop.

(22:03):
That was a good card, but itrequired a little bit of setup,
a little bit of nuance to getthe maximum potential out of it
with cosmic ghost rider.
But if this thing's overstayed,like you have no disadvantage to
running it.
There's no downside.
Yeah.
Like the downsides to somethinglike a.
Like a, uh, a stardust is thatlike, it just, it does nothing.
This thing, it's gonna hitstuff.
And even if it hits one card,like if they don't have two

(22:26):
cards in a lane, but you turnoff surge, that might be enough.
You know what I mean?
Like, or whatever you turn offagain, their their sun spots to
mess up their prodigy, invisiblewoman plays like that's
impactful.
And the tech

Cozy (22:38):
and the text makes sense with the cost assignment, right?
Like sometimes we see that notwork, but in this case it's
like, yeah, you want time forthis to go out.
You want time for them to beable to play the front rows, get
that out, and then at five costsyou're finally getting that, you
know, that worthwhileassignment.
So I agree, man, I think thisthing's got plenty of, of, of
gas behind it.
And I also think it not onlyprevents some crazy s from
happening, but it also opens upthe floodgates a bit of what

(23:00):
they can design because it isthat release valve in a way.

Alex (23:03):
Yeah, it, it's a big net.
I feel like this card casts abig net.
It.
It's not subject to like, therequirements of like a ghost.
Ghost is only going to disablethe on, uh, the end of turn
cards.
This one here, just like smokestheir two cards and removing the
text.
Crazy.
Like, remember what Leach usedto do?
It's Red Guardian's, obviouslythe most apt example.

(23:26):
This is a really good card.
It's a really good tech piece.
And um, one of the concerns Ihave is like, we're getting a
lot of tech in Marvel, Snap andTech.
While it serves an importantrole, uh, it can hamper the
experience a little bit.
Like it can be prettyirritating.
Like I'm, I'm of the camp that Ithink Shahi plays a very

(23:47):
important role in Marvel Snap.
Uh, without shachi, you know,it's, it's very easy like cards,
like blobs and so like, theystart to make more sense.
You need something to counteractas much as it pisses you off.
Like, I understand Shachi playsan important role and you'd
almost, I think you dislike Snapmore without shachi, with the
exception of, of high voltage,by the way, which we'll talk
with shortly.
Excluding him from high voltagethink is perfect.

(24:08):
That's such a great choice.
But in regular ranked, like youneed cards like that, right?
I just feel like this one heremight be a bit more of a
catchall and I don't know, itmight piss people off.

Cozy (24:17):
I was just about to say in, in fun game modes, limited
type game modes, I think theydon't have to be in as much, but
yeah, in rank it for sure, likeit's supposed to not feel good.
Like when you're building magic,you're playing magic and you
have like a ton of counters onthe whatever.
Let's say you play ful,whatever, and you get a board
wipe.
Yeah, it sucks.
But also like, that's just whatis supposed to keep things, you
know, going, let's say Commanderfor instance.

(24:39):
So tech cards doing the exactsame, exact same purpose for
that, this is Frank Castle, bythe way.
Yeah.
Bro spoilers.
I didn't know that.
That's not, this is FrankCastle.
Where, where like what did Ispoil?
What did, when were you gonnauh, it was either me or someone
else.
I bet you that someone in yourshower with this, what did you

Alex (24:53):
spoil?

Cozy (24:54):
That cosmic ghost Rider is Frank Castles.
Yeah, but you would've foundthis out on stream.
Let's be honest.

Alex (24:59):
I, I don't know.
That's probably unlikely.
Is it?

Cozy (25:02):
Okay.
I'll hold my

Alex (25:03):
tongue.
Okay.

Cozy (25:03):
But now I'm curious though.
Is this like a comic

Alex (25:05):
thing or an mc?
No, I'm not

Cozy (25:06):
saying

Alex (25:06):
anything now.

Cozy (25:06):
Saying nothing.
Yeah.
Don't tell

Alex (25:08):
me anything because I'm still trying to catch up with
things.
I'm still trying.
Look at his chest.
You

Cozy (25:10):
can't tell with his chest.
Now look at it closely.
You can tell he's Punisher.
Oh, it is the punisher chest,isn't it?
Yeah.
You could tell and yeah, it'suh, that'd be frank.
Yeah, man, I think he's gonna bea good car.
Definitely fun to, you know,they don't have the craziest fun
factors right?
Whenever these cards come out.
But they're, they always age waybetter in the sense of people
just like playing them.
Red Guardian.
Perfect example.

(25:31):
People thought maybe he doesn'tneed the spot.
And now we saw where he becamehigh voltage.
Alex, high voltage.
I.
Were you, were you, I feel likenow it's like, what can get the
job done the fastest andongoing?
Seeing that to myself.
And before we get to that, Ihave to, I guess this is going
into top cars play this season.
What is your view on Mercury incannibal?

Alex (25:51):
I'm surprised they've been dodging nerfs.
Um, I feel like they are apackage that as a two package or
maybe particularly strong.
I wonder who's the moreproblematic card.
I wonder if it's Mercury and Iwonder if it's cannibal.
It's probably cannibal MercuryMoving is a POS though.

(26:13):
Mm-hmm.
Because it allows you to tradeeffectively so easily.

Cozy (26:16):
Yeah.
You could play around it andthen you, you can't.
Right.
Like, it, it that, I thinkthat's like the thing that's the
most frustrating.
It's like, oh, okay.
They play Mercury there.
It's like, okay, I'll play youover here.
Right.
It doesn't matter.
It just doesn't matter.
Especially with the way that itcarries out.

Alex (26:27):
And it is kind of weird that Mercury can move when she
prevents cards from moving.
Right.

Cozy (26:31):
Yeah, just don't, why maybe she

Alex (26:33):
just prevent herself from moving.

Cozy (26:35):
This car prevents itself from moving.
Uh, but yeah, it is, it isinteresting in my opinion.

Alex (26:40):
Yeah.
I don't know.
I, I think they're probablykeeping a close eye on it.
It wouldn't surprise me ifthey're Nerf candidates.
They should be Nerf candidates.
And they activate an entirepackage around destroy, for the
most part.
Right.
Like, uh, you think about likethe fenner inclusions and stuff
like that.
Like they enable an entirearchetype to the most part.
And even then, like if you justmake random decks, like we're,

(27:01):
see you could play like ongoingshells like you mentioned.
And because Mercury's an ongoingguard, you just splash in
Cannonball Yeah.
Is not an ongoing card.
It won't get hit by spectrum,but you just win a lane with it,
you know what I mean?
Like, so there's almost no riskto including it at all.
And Cannonball went from a fiveeight to a five, seven back to a
five eight.

(27:21):
And then they released Mercury.
So he's had his power changed acouple times.
But I, I wonder it has to be onsome sort of watch list.
I wonder if they look atcannibals power or if they look
at Mercury's effect, but at somepoint something's gotta give
because they do have, yeah, theyhave a, a massive meta
penetration of, uh, of pro wellcannibals, 18%, which is, uh,

(27:42):
one of the, the top cards of theseason.
What I wanna say about, uh, highvoltage though, is I wanna give
credit where it's due.
Second dinner did an excellentjob making this version of high
voltage, much more free to playfriendly.
I think that, uh, you know, I'mlike, if I played right now, I
haven't missed a single rolloverand I will unlock the card with
plenty of time to spare, whichis great.

(28:03):
I don't care as much about thepremium mystery variant.
For me it's the card.
I wanna be able to access thatand I have been able to, and
again, time to spare.
So if you, if you missed arollover here and there or
whatever, you're gonna be okay.
We needed that.
No more of this kid, kid omegagarbage.
We need to have most that arefun to play and accessible.
One thing I wanna say about highvoltage that absolutely needs to
go, and I did voice this opinionin the official creator discord,

(28:26):
is they absolutely have to getrid of the win all three
locations requirement, because Igot that as my first mission on
the onset of high voltage.
Am I great?
I'm only gonna do two missionslike.
For like days until I justincidentally unlocked this
because although it's easier asa condition to get in high

(28:47):
voltage, I basically had to playtribunal over and over again
until eventually I just had apop off.
Right?
And then I got it.
But it's just annoying.
And I think that if you're gonnabe doing things, it turns a
little time.
Game modes.
I think second dinner needs tobe very fixated on player
engagement, improving theexperience and keeping people in
their ecosystem and havinggarbage missions that discourage

(29:07):
people from playing or areextremely frustrating.
They counteract that.
Uh, so massive win overall forme from high voltage and a, a
miss still that they, on thatnote, like Quest as a whole have
not been looked at in thelongest time.
Like Alliance, missions,alliances as a whole, the Daily
missions.
Those I could, I think could usesome refinement.
Yeah,

Cozy (29:25):
no, I agree with that.
I think, again, it just goesback to what we were saying,
just having it, uh, fun beingthe focus over like.
Any form of sweat.
I get it.
Like, yeah, like winning allthree, like yeah, you could do
old draw on decks.
You get light tribunal, I thinkwas the most played deck in, uh,
in high voltage, this se orthis, uh, time around.
But yeah, they definitely couldjust get a, just a look over all
that.
And it can't that is like barebones, easy to just swap up,

(29:48):
change up, get rid of maybe thelowest completion.
Like they, they have the datafor all that too that we don't
even have that they could lookat.
Uh, good show.

Alex (29:56):
Yeah, for sure.
Uh, but yeah, so overall highvoltage, very happy with it.
I believe later in the monththey, they're doing another high
voltage, but I think it's gonnabe one of the shorter ones, like
a weekend one with kind of toneddown rewards.
No extra card.
I'm good with that.
I think that's fine.
Absolutely fine.
So I'm, I'm glad to see thatthey're experimenting with the
limited time game modes and nowthat they're starting to make
more of like a roster of them,I'm happy to see them coming

(30:17):
back.
Although I would like to seethe, um, the brand arena,

Cozy (30:22):
brand arena come

Alex (30:23):
back in, in some sort of reiterated form improvements.

Cozy (30:27):
Glad to see that they can add so much to that.
That game out has a lot.
Like high voltage, you can,obviously they've added the, the
small differences there, butlike grand Arena, they can
always come back with somethinglike bigger, different and
really mix things up.
And I think that one has themost growth to it for sure.

Alex (30:42):
Yeah, for sure.
And you kind of alluded to it,we were talking about the top
plate cards of the season and sowe went to on top, we took a
look at what the top plate cardsof the season at each cost were.
And a couple of these willsurprise you.
Some of them won't.
Uh, some of them may be Nerfcandidates, some of them, uh,
may just outright shock you.
So we're gonna be talking aboutthem and why they may be the
most plate cards and Cozy, I'llthrow it out to you whether or

(31:04):
not some of these need anerfing, but top plates cards of
the season.
And this is post OTA.
So most recent statistics at thenumber one cost.
So at the one cost I should say,we have the hood running 14%.
The hood is the most played onedrop in Marvel Snap right now.
Um, what are your thoughts onthat?

Cozy (31:26):
I feel like the hood often finds itself back into that
spot.
Uh, you know, it there just whenit came out, right?
Think about when the game cameout and what the hood was.
There was n pretty much no wayto get rid of it.
Kind of.
I mean, there was a couple ofthings you could do with it.
Obviously the early Viper stage,even like I kill Maga before you
play the demon, but like when itwas released it made sense in

(31:50):
the way that it worked.
And like we're years out now andthere's just so many ways to
make the pro into a con and thenyou have just double or con into
a pro and then you have doublepros going for it.
And so it often sneaks rightback up into this spot.
And I'm not surprised by what'sever due.

Alex (32:08):
There's a couple things that come to mind with the hood
specifically.
The first is that, um, I thinkit shows how much weaker one
drops are compared to two drops.
I think that the hood, whilebeing an excellent card,
fantastic card.
Is not like, it's not leaguesahead of others.
The way like Mr.
Fantastic was as a two drop orthe way surge is.
Like, it's not like, you knowwhat I mean?

(32:29):
It's just, it's just not that.
However it goes in almostanything.
It goes in like bounce shells.
It goes in shells that run vastagent venom.
It, uh, you know, it goes, uh,currently in shells that are
like trying to like basicallyclog the opponent much like you
said with, uh, with Viper.
But most importantly it'sMerlin.

(32:50):
Merlin allows you to target thehood with the Polymorph spell,
giving you a two cost.
And that's like what, exactlywhat you said.
You take that negative turn intoa positive and you're laughing.

Cozy (33:01):
Yeah.
They just, you can't experimenttoo much with one cause.
Right.
Like, we saw them try to do thatand then it ended up being Nico,
uh Right.
Or whatever.
Like where it was like, okay,this is clearly, yeah.
Oh yeah.
Who only lived so so fast sofar.
Hydration ball player.
But then you, like even thenebula that when that came, like
there, there just isn't too muchthey could do there because of

(33:22):
how cheap it is in the, the waythe game, flows and goes.
Like they can't get too uniquewith

Alex (33:26):
the abilities.
I feel so bad for hydration,Bob, because I think one of the
major problems for him issomething that happens in Marvel
Snap ad nauseum.
It happened havoc in the lastOTA.
The worst thing you can do inMarvel Snap is fly too close to
the sun.
It doesn't matter what card youare.
If you see absolutely no play,then all of a sudden people
start playing you because somenew card came out that all of a
sudden made you viable.

(33:47):
Like the way invisible womanfirst steps made havoc viable.
It's not invisible woman firststeps that gets nerfed.
It's poor old havoc that getshis cheeks clapped because I
don't know man.
Because why?
Why was it havoc that had to getnerfed?

Cozy (34:00):
We brought that up last Snapchat.
I said you gotta be a seven out10 in the game.
And some comment was like, thatis the damn truth.
It is.
You gotta ride your seven out,10 being an eight outta 10,
which can't be too good.
That's why like in most gamesthough, I avoid the meta or the
top.
Character player gun if it'sCall of Duty because you just
know, you know, it's not faraway from getting nerfed.

Alex (34:20):
Yeah, no, for sure.
On that note, I dunno if youplayed Battlefield Six was kind
of cool.
Yeah.
Uh, maybe one.
We'll talk about that.
Closer to the release.
At some point we gotta talkabout like some other games too
sometimes to the chagrin ofothers that are like, wait a
minute, I thought this was aMoral Snap podcast.
Uh, but anyways, number two, socost two Cozy, you wanna take a
guess?
We actually brought it up duringthe Cosmic A Ghost Rider.

Cozy (34:38):
Yeah.
Yeah.
It's funny if, if he wasn'tNerfed, I was gonna say
fantastic, but no surge.
It's gotta be Surge.
Most likely

Alex (34:44):
it's Surge.
Oh yeah, it's Surge.
Cozy got it's surge.
22% metas share according tountapped based, uh, statistics.
Surge was a two two at release,got nerfed to a two one and its
playwright has continued to thesurprise of absolutely no one.
For what it's worth, I loveSurge.
I think the card's a fantasticdesign.
I don't wanna see it get nerfedto no oblivion.
I actually, when people playsearch, I'm not even mad.

(35:05):
There's waste to counter it.
You, you can hit it with a redguardian on curve.
I love the design, I thinks is afantastic card and, um, but it's
still running a 22% metas share,which might be high, but like, I
don't, you can't do much more toit.
Can you like, you know what Imean?
Like, what do you do?
You can't make, it's so funnywhen the card came out, you're,
nobody

Cozy (35:21):
plays Snap like that though.
And then like, she did singlehandedly change.
A lot of the way you play, youplay the game.
Or at least you know, you, therisk versus reward system of it.
This was just one of those homerun releases.
I feel like every now and thenthey hit one.
That's just a, a huge home run.
Had to tone down a little bit,but yeah, surge is awesome.

Alex (35:38):
Yeah.
'cause it's a fun design.
It feels fair.
You can counter it with thelikes of TripleM if you have to.
There, ev there's nothing aboutSurge that's egregious.
Like you can turn it off, youcan deal with it.
It's fun.
It also has like the top deckside where it's like, you know,
if you top deck stuff on curve,then all of a sudden it starts
flowing good, but sometimes itdoesn't help you as much as
other times.
Right?
Like it, it feels like a veryfarewell designed card.

(35:58):
So yeah, surge at 22% I don'tthink is, is as problematic.
But here's the thing.
Surge is only the top playedcard at the two slot in Marvel
Snap because Cozy, do you wannatake a guess what the top plate
three cost?
It is just alluded to.
It did.
Snap

Cozy (36:12):
did.
Yeah, it was gonna be the two,but now it's gonna just be the
three.
Mr.
Fantastic.

Alex (36:17):
Mr.
Fantastic.
The original three one boom.
Yeah, the original no f firststeps Mr.
Fantastic.
16% Medi-Share.
And that is post Nerf.
A significant Nerf, like we'retalking a sizable Nerf man.
Yeah.
Going from a two to a three costfor a card that has an end of
turn effect.
It is a absolutely gargantuanNerf.
He's still seeing 16% play.

(36:37):
He's still doing absolutelyfine.
He's still a good card.
And it just makes me wonderlike, damn.
This card was really stupid attwo.
Wasn't it?
Like really stupid.
Yeah.
That's when Kevin

Cozy (36:47):
Foggy made the call.
He is like, Hey, this movie'scoming out.
Pump it up, gas it up.
You know, who's the best heroright now in Rivals?
Human Torch.
Just saying.
Right?
So it's like, maybe this is a,maybe this is a higher
conspiracy tin tinfoil hatmoment.
But yeah.
I think the movie out of, uh,out of theaters in October
watched there would just be likea mega Nerf in, in in October.

(37:07):
October one.
This card goes to shamblesforecast.

Alex (37:10):
Can they even like Nerf it more forecast?
Oh my gosh.
I don't take away its identitycompletely.
Yeah.
They, they make it a five cost.
It's a five three.
No one plays it ever again.
It's like him and pro, pro X orjust chilling, crying.
Dang sad day.
Uh, I don't wanna do this.
We talked about this card too.
Four drops, which is the mostpopular four drop in the game.

(37:31):
I did mention he was a bit of anecessity.
Cozy.
Do you wanna take a guess?
Who the most popular four costedcard in Marvel Snappers.

Cozy (37:36):
Mm.
Jubilee.

Alex (37:38):
You are incorrect, sir.
I can't manly you just, man,you're just joking around.
Even though they uh, they gotthat creative host pocket
jubilee that makes you wannaplay it more often.
Yeah.
Right.
Chung, Mr.
Shung Chi, but he's, dude he isand he's been there since
launch.
I think it's Mr.
Shaxi running a 25% Medi-Share.
So I, I play this game all thetime where like the, they don't
have Shachi game where you justlike play big chunks and just

(38:00):
hope they don't get punched outinto oblivion and they get
punched out approximately 25% ofthe time.
But it really, it's like one ofthose like 60% of the time it
get punched out every timesituations.
'cause I feel like they alwayshave shachi and I feel like it's
one of those cards where like,if you're trying to make an
offense, like when I'm craftinga deck for the fallen one or
whatever, like I'm trying to dolike the weak deck of, for like,
uh, the new card of the week.

(38:22):
I'm like, I cut hunchy for moregreedy synergy options and then
the deck is always better when Ijust cut something stupid and
add Hunchy back.
So, yeah, hun, she's beendefinitely clapping cheeks, but,
uh, I, I mean, I said it before.
I think he's important to thegame.
What are your thoughts on Hunchyas a whole?

Cozy (38:36):
Yeah, I agree.
No, I, well, because again, itkeeps people like you in check,
right?
Everyone would go for the greedyoptions and things would get
outta control.
And then eventually there'd beone greedy option that was found
out.
That would just be the one torun.
And then, and then that would beit, right?
So, yeah, he's, he's, he is everimportant.
And what it's been, we're onyear three of the guy in the
game.
And, and you know what?

(38:57):
I think it's, it's allowed thegame has almost been balanced
around him in a sense, right?
In ways.
So you can't

Alex (39:03):
get rid of him now.
No, you can't.
And, uh, moving him from a, likepunching a nine cost to 10 cost
was significant.
That was a big nerve.
Yeah.
But like, you have Sge who makeshim a three cost.
You have Zbu who has maintainedpopularity, so like.
There have been so many optionsand opportunities to keep Shanky
viable despite that relativelymodest Nerf, which was really a

(39:25):
Nerf just'cause of power creepbeing so aggressive.
Let's be honest with you, at thefive cost Cozy, we talked about
this one too.
We already alluded to it.
It's cannonball running 18%.
Do you think cannonballs a Nerfcandidate?

Cozy (39:39):
No, but well, yeah.
'cause you said you think it'scannibal over mercury.
I don't know.
I wanna see what happens if, ifyou make mercury not be able to
be moved, then you're reallyhurting that card a ton.
But also it's a 2 0 5 and so I'drather them do that than
cannibal.
Right.
Unless they take it back to afive seven.
But even then it's still doingthe thing.
It does so well.
Right?
Uh, I I said the

Alex (40:00):
opposite.
I said Nerf Mercury keepcannibal.
That's

Cozy (40:03):
what I think.
Oh, you said that?
Yeah, that's what I agree

Alex (40:05):
with that I said

Cozy (40:05):
that.
Yeah.
Yeah.
A

Alex (40:06):
hundred percent.
Okay.
Yeah, I dunno, something has tohappen.
I think that he is at 18%.
He is just too good.
What if you change with sixcosts?
Make'em the end of turn play.
He's still the end of term play,but he's a five.
So you people are sneaking stuffout like

Cozy (40:20):
demons and then they would give him higher power probably
to compensate.
I feel like we've seen these twocard combos and they always
fall, like they always get ridof him when it's just like
dominant and it's for the mostpart, I mean I can't, I just,
how long'cause it's been now,what a good amount of time that
this has been wreaking half.
Again, if you look at like,across just like top decks,

(40:43):
you're gonna see tho those two,like, they don't like having two
or even one card in like a tonof the top decks.
And I mean it's pretty clear cutand obvious that they are,

Alex (40:52):
well one of the major challenges is, is that you can
do, like, you literally can justlike add fenris, hunchy and then
cannonball mercury to any deck,anything, literally anything.
And it's just a better deck now.
Yeah.
Pro X and, and Cannonball lastedall of like a month.
Yeah, that was stupid.
That was a really sad meta.
That meta was as bad.

(41:13):
Sad meta.
Yeah, actually probably thatmeta was probably worse than the
Spider-Man.
Absorbing man meta where like,you literally couldn't play the
game anymore.
No.
Like OG Spider-Man, youremember?
No dude, you

Cozy (41:22):
literally couldn't play the, like No, there was no
playing.
What?
That was pretty bad.
But that, that, that was aspecial kind of bad, like that
man for April Fools, they needto just have us play that for
like a week.
Just roll back the servers.

Alex (41:38):
They really needed to do those, like, those like, uh,
like the X-Men events and stufflike that.
Again, the unbalanced patches.
That was such a great idea.
Why don't they bring those back?
Horrible marketing, prettyunbalanced

Cozy (41:47):
patches back.
Horrible marketing name, butamazing idea.
I think the un like the way thatthey would have to, uh, I think
between that and the OTA, like,I don't know, maybe they thought
casuals were gonna be tooconfused by it, but dude, those
were fun.
Like I feel like those broughtsome freshness.
People didn't like about first,and then I think they really
kind of, people really

Alex (42:05):
started to get used to it.
What I don't like, and I stillcan't believe we're in the game
of these featured and hotlocations.
Like I cannot believe that westill get hot locations in 2025.
Like, is there, let me know inthe comments, do you actually
like hot locations?
Of course you don't like, ofcourse you don't like, there's
no way, and I know there's likemaybe three people that are
gonna say they do, but youreally don't.
You think you do, but if theywere gone, you'd be happy.

(42:27):
I think

Cozy (42:28):
I'm convinced Ben bro just checks in every now and then he
is like, how's the hot locationsdoing?
You know, they still pumping.
They're like, yeah, we still got'em in there.
He is like, great.
Alright guys.
And then that, that's that,right?
I, I, it's, it's all bro'sfault.
No, I, yeah, dude.
We, but, but this has been, thishas been the, the thing that's
been talked about forever, thatjust they'll die.
A game will die with Hlocations.

Alex (42:50):
Yeah, one of these days we'll have to go back to like a
airing of Grievances episodewhere we just kind of just like
beef with everything that'sdriving us nuts, like the bug
where you still can't select thecost properly.
Going to number six, would itsurprise you Cozy, 70% of the
Met Galactus First Steps.
Now there's, this might beinflated slightly by the fact
that obviously being the seasonpass card, you do get some

(43:10):
rewards weekend missions wisefor it.
But I actually think he's aging.
Okay.
Dex have been okay with him.
He's not obviously as incredibleand as broken as something like
the Mr.
Fantastic First Steps was ButisFirst Steps I think is a fun
card to play.
I think it has good decks withit.
It's bringing back someinitiative based stuff like

(43:31):
Negasonic.
Oh, that's another card thatgoes with the Fenris Mercury.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, right.
Negasonic un ironically seeing alot of play right now.
Crazy.
That's so funny.
It's man.
It's crazy to think that a cardlike Negasonic, which did get
buffed by the way, remember howit used to destroy, solve
multiple itself?
Multiple, multiple times.
Yeah.
Like it got buffed and now itstill saw no play until like
another package comes out, othercards get released.

(43:53):
Right.
And to think that like Fenrisand Negasonic and Gladiator and
those cards have sat for solong, but then it was like the
inclusion of Mercury.
Then all of a sudden it's like,oh, why don't we just start
slamming all these packagestogether and all of a sudden you
got this insane cook.
But anyways, have, uh, what areyour thoughts on Galactus?
Uh, first steps?

Cozy (44:10):
I thought it was gonna be a lie at Dr.
Doom.
I didn't know.
Uh, I didn't think he, he wouldtake this.
Oh yeah.
I don't know.
I think he, does he ever getadjusted in any way?
I don't know.
I said this last time when wetalked about him.
I just think it's great thatwe've had Galactus who's just
such a niche, niche deck, right.
To then having such a iconiccharacter.
And actually the next topic wetalk about are, are, uh,

(44:31):
characters that this game hasmade us like.
Love or just like moreinterested in, and Galactus was
one of those for me.
Like Galactus has always beensuch a big bad, and obviously,
but like this game, like reallyeven from like the start, maybe
want to look into it more.
So being able to play more like,cool.
I enjoy that a lot.
Maybe that's a good seguethough, to go into it, but, uh,
yeah, tho I mean, those beingthe top cards would, was

(44:52):
Galactus up there on a hero thatSnap made you fell in love with?
So I don't know if you wouldcharacterize

Alex (44:57):
Galactus as a hero?
Um, I, I heard Hero villain.
I heard a suggestion that LifeBringer Galactus is specifically
a hero.
Um, and that's like a different,like an actual variant of
Galactus.
But anyway, that's, I, I reallydon't know.
This is just me talking, but,um, in terms of heroes that I I,
that this game made me love, manit's hard.

(45:17):
First of all, Silver Surfer, Ithink.
Like I didn't really understandSilver Surfer very well.
And once Silver Surfer wasreleased, I started to like try
to look up some comics andfigure out what, like, what a
Herald of Galactus even was.
And by like by association Istarted learning about Galactus
and stuff.
I thought that was really cool.
Yeah.
Um, I still haven't seen the newmovie, but I know that, uh,
Silver Surfer is featuredprominently there, and I'm

(45:38):
actually looking forward to it

Cozy (45:40):
for myself, dude.
I think some like, I don't know,less, maybe not less known in
some cases, like Agent Venom andwhatnot, but, uh, like the story
of age Agent Venom was reallycool.
Like Alga Moto, even like, we'relike that the, like the
prehistoric event, like thatkind of stuff was really, even
though it was super niche, Ithought it was really
interesting.
It made me look into that more,if that makes sense.
For sure though, like theseheroes I knew or I liked maybe

(46:02):
before or I didn't know toomuch, but I dipped into'em like
way harder after Snap was likeAngela Magic for sure loved
magic, but this game really hadme like dip into who Magic was
and then Rivals has amplifiedthat.
Obviously, Jeff, we could bothsay Jeff very,

Alex (46:18):
very much.
Oh yeah, Jeff for sure, man.
Jeff, for sure.
What I'll say with magic though,is I, I love magic too, but for
me it was Midnight Sons.
For with magic.
Yeah.
They did a good job, Nico aswell.
So like that, that's like,that's basically like a social
stimulator for the most part.
And I loved, uh, Nico Minoru andMagic in that.
Like they were basically likewhatever party I was doing, it

(46:40):
was Nico, me and and magicnonstop.
I don't care what, like, peoplewere doing Tearless saying that
those, those weren't as good.
I'm like, don't care.
Don't care.
Those are my ladies, they'rewith me.

Cozy (46:49):
Do you feel like people hate Shung Chi more just by
default?
Like they see him on the screenand they're like, this guy's
caused me so much pain.

Alex (46:56):
First of all, I actually, so the, I can't remember his
name, the actor, he's Canadian.
Um, he is a phenomenal actorlike him a lot.
Yeah.
He was in, uh, he was in aproduction in Toronto, uh, where
they, they did like, uh, like alittle comedy series before he
was shot and cheat, which iscrazy'cause my wife and I
actually watched that.
Um, and then, uh, I think, Ithought, by the way, Shachi
probably an underappreciatedmovie in the mc.
Very, yeah.
That movie is so good.

(47:17):
I don't think it ends as strongas some of the others, but like
the bus scene and everythinglike that is absolutely crazy.
Like, it's so good, man.
And there's so like, oh man, Idon't wanna spoil anything.
But like, when he, like, there'slike a moment where he fights
his sensei in that, like when hegoes to meet his sister.
I don't know.
It was so cool.
I don't know.
The whole movie's awesome.
And it's like, it's so wellchoreographed.
It goes well beyond anythingelse the MCU has ever done.

(47:39):
So yeah, like, I, I don't think,I don't think Shun, she's been
ruined.
I can see why p it pisses peopleoff, but I don't think so.
One thing that really stood outto me though, here's a character
that like I absolutely love andI, I didn't really pay attention
to until I saw them in, like, Iknew they existed, but I didn't
know their name.
And it was Ako.
Ako was a character that I wasaware of, but I didn't know

(48:01):
their name.
And like, and then when I saw, Idon't even remember what movie
it was, it was more one of themore recent ones.
And, um, why Black Band?
I, I.
I think it was, uh, Wakandaforever, which she kinda gets in
a little bit of trouble, Ithink.
Because Princess Sheri,whatever, I don't wanna say
anything, but with Akoi like thehonor, that honor guard type
role, like it is a, a characterthat I can't help but root for.

(48:24):
Like she's one of my favoritecharacters in the MCU.
Just'cause she is like, I'd liketo say, man, if I could have
anyone by my side, man, Akowouldn't like absolutely just
give anyone a beat down for you.
You know what I mean?
Like, talk about pure honorguard, man.
I like it.
It doesn't get much better thanAko Solid pick.

Cozy (48:40):
I, dude, mine is obvious now that I think about it more
too.
Dark Hawk.
Dark Hawk was one of those Iknew almost nothing about.
And then like the, the rain thathe had on this game for so long,
you almost had to find out whohe was.
And then I remember, I think itwas at Pax when I met you, I was
doing like.
Uh, interviews of like favoriteheroes.
And this one guy was like, uh,dark Hawk for sure.
And I'm like, oh, you play Snap.

(49:00):
He's like, I don't, no, not atall.
I was like, oh, you're just likea tell me about it more.
And that, that got me into him abit more, even though his, his
ability doesn't really likerepresent him well out a thing.
But, uh, yeah, that wasdefinitely one from the game,

Alex (49:12):
no question.
Yeah.
And I mean, there's so many, Imean, there's so many heroes and
one of the things I've enjoyedis like watching Xmen 97 and be
having like those neo uh,Leonard DiCaprio moments where
like, you know what I mean?
Where like something happens andyou're like, I know that guy.
Like SSON actually likedisabling people's abilities in
the show and in the, that'ssomething that I think Snap has

(49:32):
done really well.
They actually tend to catch thecards for sure.
Pretty thematically, right?
There's some that don't makemuch sense.
Like we still think like ScarletWitch could, she makes sense.
'cause like, oh, she's a littlechaotic.
She changes locations.
She did exactly that in WandVisions, stuff like that.
But like, that's a greatexample.
Dark Hawk makes no sense.
Makes absolutely no sensewhatsoever.

(49:53):
But like some of them, they'rejust, they're really flavorful
and well done.
Sour one's exactly like that.
Uh, I like how Kaza or Caza is aforecast and Zbu buffs him
technically, even though youdon't really play them like
that.
There's a lot of flavor likethat, which I think is really
cool.
Do you have anyone else?
I guess I didn't watch theEternals until the Eternal

(50:13):
season.
And I, I was, I was pretty, Ithought like Gilgamesh was an a
what a do Gilgamesh in the MCUman.
Oh, what an absolute Chad.
Love him.
But, uh, I thought that was, Iwas cool.
Like, it was one of thosesituations where like, I was
watching like the game footage,like in the trailer.
I'm like, I gotta watch thismovie, man.
And then I wa I think someonetold me that Broad's favorite

(50:35):
movie's, the Eternals.
Is that true?
I, I think it was in theinterview.
You

Cozy (50:37):
didn't, yeah, yeah.
Yeah.
I was shocked by that.
I remember it being like, oh,well it's good.
It definitely gets unnecessaryhate.

Alex (50:43):
Yeah, I, anyways, so anyways, yeah, like, I mean, if
we had a list of heroes to likego through, like, I, I
absolutely would continue tojust pop off, but like, yeah,
it's one of my favorite thingshas been being introduced to new
heroes and stuff like that and,uh, having like a more just a
core understanding of who theyare and even like small things.
Like I was, I was watching, um,like when it was, it is like a

(51:05):
spoiler, but I was watching thenew Captain America and when
they introduced like ThaddeusRoss, I'm like, bro, I know
where this movie are.

Cozy (51:10):
It's in the trailer.
That's not a spoiler.
It was in the trailer.
I never saw the trailer.
Oh, okay.
That was in all the marketingtoo.
Like it was unavoidable on theposter when you walk in.
It was unavoidable.

Alex (51:19):
Okay.
Which would've been a greatreveal.
Snap spoiled me

Cozy (51:21):
would've been a great reveal.
I think.
Squirrel Girl definitely is oneof those two that I like, knew
nothing about pretty much untilI did.

Alex (51:28):
Yeah.
Yeah.
And, um, yeah I just, I guesswhite queen too.
She did have the, uh, been 97white queen made a comeback
right.
Oh, I, yeah.
I didn't know much about I've,I've loved Emma Frost.
Yeah.

Cozy (51:41):
For a long time.

Alex (51:43):
Really?
Oh yeah.
Hmm.
See, for me, Emma Frost it, she,she occupies the same lean as
Gina.
Proud.
More like my era of like Worldof Warcraft and stuff.
Emma Frost and Gina proud moreare like, you know what I mean?
Do you know what I'm talkingabout?
They seem like, yeah.
That's

Cozy (51:59):
a fun poll.
That's a fun poll.
Okay.
Okay.
Childhood awakenings thenessentially.
Yeah.
Essentially.
Yeah.
Snapchat mailbag, Alex, Mr.
Alex, we, I'm sure got someinteresting mailbag this time
around.
Walk us through, get us to

Alex (52:12):
question number one.
Alright.
Question number one comes as apacket of two.
This is by far the mostcommented thing.
Cyber SM says Alex and Cozydiscussing Chinese food as peak
content.
Miss this for real.
And I was followed up by the oneand only Nina is new.
Who said chicken balls?
Really, Alex?

Cozy (52:32):
I didn't do a.
Statistical tally, but I wannasay it was a 90 to 10 split that
people, 90% were, what the hellwere chicken balls?
10% were their sweet and sourchicken.

Alex (52:45):
I'm pretty sure they're officially called sweet and sour
chicken.
Uh, to me it's crazy that evenwith my description of them, you
couldn't figure it out.
Like you had no idea what thered sauce was.
I still don't, I still don'tknow what you're talking about.
That's this, this is moreinsane.
The fact that you're stillconfused.
It blows my mind like sweet sourchicken.
I know

Cozy (53:02):
sweet and sour chicken, but like, that's not like a
Yeah, like, I mean I get thatwith it's a one chicken.
Chickens a piece of

Alex (53:09):
chicken in a battered ball.
It's a chicken ball.
No.
See

Cozy (53:12):
I've never had that.

Alex (53:14):
Alright, well next time we get together we're gonna have
chicken balls.
Can't

Cozy (53:17):
wait.
That was what did you say?
They're actually

Alex (53:20):
great.
I don't know what you're talkingabout.
This is not like, this is notlike a controversial like, oh,
I'm making them.
Eat.
Like, this is why I think yougrew

Cozy (53:26):
up in, in, in, in Candyland.
Like, I don't know.
'cause like you, you've neverhad a fish taco, but then like,
it's like, oh, chicken balls.
It's like, of course.

Alex (53:34):
Yeah.
'cause I, I mean, when you go inCanada, at least in my area,
like chicken balls and sweet andsour chicken is like very common
man.
It's common like top of themenu.
Like you get there, it's like,man,

Cozy (53:44):
I want Chinese, I want chicken

Alex (53:45):
bowls.
If I were to call a local, I, Icould call every local Chinese
place in Canada and say, yeah,can I get an order of chicken
bowls?
So like, yeah.
Anything else?
Unfazed un I I can almostguarantee it.
They're not gonna be like, bro,you dumb.
Like, they're just be like, ohyeah, yeah, no problem bro.
When you think Mexican food,what do you think?
Tacos?

Cozy (54:04):
Yeah.
I don't know.
I thought you're gonna pull somelike, uh, like rice squares or,
no, just right off the top of myhead.
Be squares or something.
Yeah.
Yeah.
That's fair.
That's fair.

Alex (54:11):
I also guacamole you came to mind too, and I don't know if
that's some fresh guac.
Uh, no, that's, that's a solidbig, I'm an enchilada guy.
I don't know what enchilada is.
Yeah.

Cozy (54:21):
Get outta here.
I have no idea.
I have no idea what that is.
You're clearly lying, bro.
This is for ga you, you, you are

Alex (54:27):
farming engagement right now.
I, dude.
Okay, so first of all, I, okay.
I know for sure my, one of mybest friends lives in la.
You live in San Diego.
I've been to both and I knowthat down there, like the
Mexican culture and cuisine islike everywhere and you are
fully immersed in it.
And I even went to a taco truckenchiladas.
Alex are, dude, I'm just sayingin Canada we don't see as much.

(54:49):
It's just not, if we're not evenordering Mexico, it's not,

Cozy (54:51):
it's not, it's in enchiladas are like such a
common dish.
I I, you know what a quesadillais?
It's a dish.

Alex (54:58):
I thought it was a sandwich.
Do you know what a SI have noidea.
Do you know what a quesadillais?
I thought honestly, I'm pic Ithink they're the same thing.
I don't know.
Isn't a quesadilla like anomelet?
Do you ever get Mexican food?
No.
Almost never.
It's just not prevalent up here.
I don't know what to tell you.
Like it's just not.
We don't border Mexico.

(55:19):
I just don't know how.
You don't

Cozy (55:20):
know.
I, you're my favorite human.

Alex (55:24):
All I'm saying is like, when, so when I was in Los
Angeles, we were in, I thinkit's Santa Clara, I dunno,
wherever the gym, uh, Arnold'sgym was there.
Gold's Gym.
They're everywhere, but Yeah.
Yeah, whatever the, the OG one,right?
People were like working out onthe beach and stuff.
It's a specific beach in la.
People go to Muscle Beach,they're like, oh, it's, I think
it's called Muscle Beach.
Yeah, there it is.
So we were there and um, therewas a taco truck there, and my

(55:47):
buddy's like, these tacos aresix.
So we went up, we got the tacos,and they handed me, I was like,
this isn't a taco.
We're like, what is this?
It's like, it, it was liketotally d And they're like, no,
that's like, those are realtacos.
Like, that's like actual, likethe bread.
That is a real, not like TacoBell Taco.
This is a real proper taco.
And the bread was like waysmaller and it was like way

(56:08):
more, I think it was more oflike a corn.
I don't know, man.
I.
Buddy.
I'm just, people are gonna losetheir minds.
I, I've, I, I don't know.
Maybe I need to indulge more.
Max, you're lucky this is 58minutes in,

Cozy (56:17):
because I am I'm blown away.
I, this is, this might be upthere on my list of, there's no
way.
Okay.
I'm

Alex (56:27):
sorry,

Cozy (56:27):
man.
I already we're talking about,like, I already know what the
Snapchat mailbag is next weeklike there's no que like, it's
gonna be pretty obvious.
It's about the quesadilla orthe, okay.

Alex (56:36):
Well, at least we know next time we get together, we
have some content to record atthe very age.
Do you know queso,

Cozy (56:40):
fondle?

Alex (56:42):
I don't even know what you just said.
What's the next question?
Is that an, is that a person?
Next question.
Next

Cozy (56:47):
question.

Alex (56:47):
It

Cozy (56:48):
is a person.

Alex (56:48):
Oh yeah.
Okay.
Next question.
From, uh, Santa Ma.
Santa Ma channel, I think theway that Nama said, but anyway,
says Cozy is having a secondchild soon.
And here we are still at 20 Dslots.
Welcome back.
Cozy.

Cozy (57:00):
That is something I, wow.
If you would've asked me, dude,that would've been such a fun
way to phrase it, when Snap waslaunched.
'cause that was when my last onewas born.
You're like, Hey, by the timeyou have another kid, well
there'll be more than 20 deckslots.
I'd be like, absolutely.
Sometimes you just get bordersinstead that you can pay for.
Oh yeah, you gotta have thoseborders.

(57:20):
You absolutely gotta have them.
Got it.
I, I can't believe how fast wegot 20 deck slots and then just
like never again.
Kill the science.
Cut the project.

Alex (57:27):
I know the technology does not exist.
We got a couple more here.
Quick Big Steve.
Honestly, I know it's good tokeep the game playable for all
and let people know when you areunhappy and keep the depths
humble.
But I can't help but appreciatethe game for how good it is
compared to other free to playmobile games.
We get unlimited energy to play.
We don't have to wait for arecharge when unlocking a

(57:48):
character.
We don't have to level them upto use their skills or give them
gear to level up or use adifferent currency.
And the game doesn't make uswatch ads or plate and berate us
with paying for things unlessyou are in the shop.
I get the hate and I think it'sgood to say these things, but I
really love the game even withall its flaws.
That's a 2023

Cozy (58:07):
take right there.
Yeah.
No, I, uh, I think the thingthat's frustrating the most is,
uh, that I disagree with alittle bit of that and that
what's frustrating is it, it isa great game.
Like that's, yeah, that's theobvious.
It is a very, very good game.
It's the fact that it's a mobilegame

Alex (58:22):
is what is the worst part about it.
No question.
We've said so many times wherewhile we understand that Marvel
Snap is a mobile game, it shit's not, it should be better
than that.
I think mobile game territorycomes with a specific
expectation.
And I think that Marvel Snap isbeyond that.
I think it's above that, and Ithink it should be above that.
It's a better game than youraverage mobile game.
It's mobile game of the year, onrelease and it for good reason.

(58:44):
Right.
And at that time, they hadn'tmonetized the way they have Now,
if you take a look at thecurrent climate around people's
opinions on Marvel Snap, peoplesay the same damn thing.
Great game, terriblemonetization, literally every
single time.
And it's unfortunate becausethey really do have the core of,

(59:04):
of a beautiful thing here.
And it's just, ah,

Cozy (59:07):
well the digital card market space is just so wide
open.
And I'm just if there's anotherstrong, if, I don't know how
much trademarked this game playis right outside of the snapping
mechanic.
Right.
But you can, you can get reallyclose to a gameplay.
If someone made a game that wasmore free to play friendly, that
was an ip, let's, I don't know,any big ip, it like Nintendo,

(59:29):
let's say Nintendo made a cardgame with all the famous
Nintendo characters and itplayed just like Snap and was
snappy, like Snap maybedifferent thing than the cube
thing.
And it was free to playcompletely.
I mean, that game would destroythis game.
And that's what sinks Yeah, itwould, they have an amazing game
here.
They have such a good game, butthey, they, you don't wanna, you

(59:50):
don't wanna Overwatch it whenrivals came out, right, like
Overwatch, like when rivals cameout, they're like, oh my gosh,
we gotta change everything.
And like that.
It's good to have competition.
It's really good to have healthycompetition.
I think Pokemon Pocket was in asense to the game.
But yeah it, it's such a good,it's just, it is, it's a great
ass game.
This game is greatest game.
It's just, at the end of theday, it's a mobile game and
that's what's, uh, the bummer ofit.

Alex (01:00:13):
Yeah.
I, I absolutely agree.
And, uh, yeah, I don't know.
I still love it, for sure.
Um, my engagement with it hasbeen very much of like, I'm not
forcing myself to grind.
I play when I wanna play, I playto do the research, I play to
test the cards.
I do my job well, funny enough,like it

Cozy (01:00:30):
being a mobile game is what I love.
Like in the sense of it beingplayable on mobile phone, and
that's when I've been playing iteven more.
So it's the stuff that comesalongside mobile games, I guess
is, yeah, if you not picking upwhat I'm putting now.

Alex (01:00:43):
Yeah, I hear you a hundred percent.
And, uh, the last statement ofthe podcast here comes from Jack
who says.
As much as I loved Alex tryingto explain Chinese food and then
saying he loves orange chicken,which is literally made by the
US chain Panda Express.
The best moment was Alex tellingCozy it's not wham, and then
goes to agree that it was GeorgeMichael who is the lead singer

(01:01:05):
of Wham.
I love you both.
So glad you're back.

Cozy (01:01:08):
Just like the quesadilla and the enchilada.
You just gotta let Alex gottafly.
Let him, let him peacock, right?
Let him, let him, uh, you can'tcage a bird that wants to fly
and we just let Alex, you lethim fly, baby.
Not too high,

Alex (01:01:22):
but high enough.
I appreciate that, Cozy.
We need to end this podcast witha careless whisper.
Thank you so much for watching,guys.
We appreciate every one of youguys, and we'll see you on the
next Snapchat episode.