July 30, 2025 • 43 mins
This week we TOUCHUP on OG lip liner loyalty and the celebrity hair stylist Laura Polko. Tarryn and Laura swap salon war stories, decode the mysteries of dry shampoo loyalty, and mourn the bang trend that just won't die. We get real about the chaos of award show days (ever done a full face with zero makeup?), the emotional rollercoaster of imposter syndrome, and why sometimes the best advice is just... take a nap. Also: Nashville traffic, cowboy lust, and why your hair might be quitting on you thanks to that sauna…. Mari might be the problem… Listen to the full episode so all the hair wisdom from this Hair Queen! Enjoy!
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Speaker 1 (00:03):
I get a little such up. Hi am Teren. I'm Mari,
and you're listening to the touch up. We hope you're
picking up what we're putting down.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
Hi Laura, Hi Laura. I'm Mari.
Speaker 3 (00:21):
Nice to meet you.
Speaker 1 (00:22):
Nice to meet you, and I'm eating an apple play Teren,
Yeah all the time?
Speaker 3 (00:26):
Perfect.
Speaker 2 (00:27):
Oh my gosh, look at your hair and look at
your hair.
Speaker 1 (00:29):
What lip are you wearing?
Speaker 3 (00:30):
I think it's just mac spice.
Speaker 4 (00:34):
That's my color. I've been wearing it since. It's the
perfect color. It's the perfect everyone.
Speaker 5 (00:41):
I mean when like also, some of them get to
like pinky and I can't go pinky.
Speaker 1 (00:49):
I can do pink.
Speaker 4 (00:50):
I mean literally spice liner every day of my life
for over twenty years.
Speaker 5 (00:56):
No, I know, it's like one of those that, like,
you know what other one I like though, that's similar.
Her is the Victoria Beckham number two.
Speaker 2 (01:02):
Oh tried that one.
Speaker 1 (01:03):
Only her eyeliners, not her lip liner liners.
Speaker 3 (01:06):
Really, I've never her.
Speaker 4 (01:08):
Oh my god, they're glighty, they're.
Speaker 1 (01:11):
Lighty and insane. They're so good. Okay, yeah, they're so good.
I feel like.
Speaker 3 (01:16):
She kills it. She does a great job.
Speaker 1 (01:18):
Yeah she does, And I feel like it's.
Speaker 5 (01:24):
Not really Yeah, I mean she rebranded her guy and
made him something she can do any brands.
Speaker 1 (01:31):
Yeah, truly truly spice up you live.
Speaker 3 (01:36):
Exactly. Well, thank you so.
Speaker 1 (01:38):
Much for joining us. Welcome to the touch Up Podcast.
We're so excited to have you me Yeah and hello, Hi,
what you just like have a brand that's so insane?
I know, before we jump into that, though, I love
to ask, you know, because we do make up and
hair too. I love to know, like where are you from?
(01:59):
And how did you stumble into this insane industry?
Speaker 2 (02:04):
Right?
Speaker 5 (02:04):
Because it is definitely a stumble in. I feel like
there's not a linear way. There's like steps you can
take that like are on the path, but it's not
a straight line, Like you know, corporate America has more
much straighter lines than that. I'm from Ohio and I
moved to I went to hair school there, did that,
(02:28):
and then you realize very.
Speaker 1 (02:29):
Quickly that like salons aren't it.
Speaker 5 (02:32):
Once you no the salon. I give people so much
credit that can do that.
Speaker 2 (02:36):
It is.
Speaker 5 (02:38):
Like when I have to do salon days for the
brand or anything, I come home and I'm like, what
was I talking about for twelve hours in a high
pitch voice, like I blacked out. I think I overshared
like crazy, but some people have such a way of
doing it.
Speaker 3 (02:55):
So anyway, I realized that wasn't it, and I moved
to New.
Speaker 5 (02:57):
York, where I spent a lot of time honestly more
having fun in my twenties, which I felt like then
in turn full circled me now to where I am
with the brand and everything. But then it became that
was also what twenty like fourteen fifteen, when it was
like you could do things more for fun, You could live,
(03:18):
you didn't need so much money to live, and if
you were up and coming, it was affordable to do so,
like flights weren't insane. If you wanted to go, you know,
do a job in LA you could actually like still
maybe make a hundred bucks as opposed to netting negative
you know where I was going to say a lot
of credits.
Speaker 4 (03:37):
You could like survive on like one hundred dollars a
week in New York City, like two years ago.
Speaker 5 (03:42):
When I first moved to New York, I made like
I think it was like four hundred bucks. Yeah, it
was crazy, no, I know, but you were like, everything's fun,
It's fine.
Speaker 1 (03:51):
Yeah, you could care and singing on a couch or
sleeping in a bathtub isn't a big deal in your
twenty How many bathtubs have I probably loved whatever totally.
Speaker 5 (03:59):
I still think about my six floor walk ups like
with like, oh it was so great.
Speaker 1 (04:05):
Yeah, no closet, but yeah.
Speaker 5 (04:07):
And then I started coming to so I.
Speaker 3 (04:10):
I feel like my.
Speaker 5 (04:11):
Big job I did was like something for Fun with
Ashley Benson. And that was when Pretty Little Liars was
big and that the Go Gro was really big, and
that was kind of the moment where then I was
able to move gracefully into celebrity. And then you know,
celebrity does help you help open a lot more doors.
Speaker 1 (04:33):
And then and you're in a uh you're in La, right, yes?
Speaker 3 (04:36):
And then I moved to La probably nine years ago.
Speaker 1 (04:40):
Almost wow, I love it. I know, I love La.
It's home for me because I'm from there. But I
don't know, you know, everybody there. There's like a love
and hate relationship with La. But I love La. There's
things I hate. Takes forever, Yeah, takes Oh, I don't
even know, because I I worked and I mean I've
been doing this for like something near so I definitely
(05:02):
had a career when I left and came to Nashville.
But I definitely feel like being in a smaller city,
I've done bigger things here than I did there. I'm like,
I don't even know. There's just so many talented people
To even be able to do what you do and
have the roster that you have is like wild because
(05:23):
there's just like there's so much competition and I know everybody,
you know, nobody's really I feel like La, everybody's really
like kind to one another. I could I could be stripping,
but it just feels like you have your clients, they
have their client Like it's just there's so much.
Speaker 5 (05:38):
Work, right, there's all yeah, because there's like so many people,
whereas Nashville is I suppose smaller, Yeah, and there's like
a couple top tiers. But I feel like I have
some friends that go to Nashville and work a lot,
and I'm like kind of a little jealous that they
get that ask Like, no one asked me to go
to Nashville, And I'm like, Nashville sounds great, like I
(05:58):
would have like York, La, I can bounce easily, yeah,
but like if you can break into a whole nother market.
I think that's such a superpower and skill set that
I give you a lot of credit for it.
Speaker 3 (06:09):
It's very hard to do.
Speaker 4 (06:10):
Yeah, and it's such a beautiful community here.
Speaker 1 (06:13):
Oh yeah.
Speaker 2 (06:13):
Everyone literally truly knows each other. It's great.
Speaker 4 (06:16):
Every time we go to an award show, it's just
being friends. And yeah, it's really I think it's a
little bit more special. And I'm from New York, so
I understand that.
Speaker 2 (06:25):
It's Yeah, you get it, I get it. I get it.
Speaker 3 (06:28):
So when I go where you're like, oh, everyone's happy
to see each other.
Speaker 2 (06:31):
Yeah, and like what do you want happy? Yeah?
Speaker 4 (06:34):
Oh you don't want anything great because I'm very much
totally totally going to be a.
Speaker 1 (06:38):
Part of that same here where, like you know, New
York is very like everyone's focused and like not like
shitty attitude or anything, but they're just they're focused. You're busy, yeah, alone. Yeah.
And then La which is just like so yippity yappity
and fast paced, and then moving here, I'm like, did
you just ask me how my mother's doing?
Speaker 2 (06:58):
Yeah, yeah, it's funny.
Speaker 1 (07:00):
Yeah, it's just the it's definitely slowed me down living here, sure, yeah, absolutely, Yeah.
Speaker 3 (07:07):
But after a while, it's kind of nice.
Speaker 5 (07:09):
And I bet you're not that upset about the lack
of traffic.
Speaker 2 (07:15):
No, we have a.
Speaker 1 (07:16):
Lot, a lot of traffic.
Speaker 4 (07:18):
Traffic there, Oh my god, there is. Our city has
grown exponentially.
Speaker 1 (07:24):
Yeaht decade, it's like sixteen hundred people a day move here. Yeah,
it's why traffic or it's insane. Yeah there, They didn't
the city of Nashville didn't know how quickly. So there's
things called highways here, which I didn't know about when
(07:47):
I first moved here. I was like, a freeway, that's it.
What else do you need a freeway?
Speaker 2 (07:50):
You call them freeways in California.
Speaker 1 (07:52):
Yeah, I call it the one on one. That's why
I say like the sixty five, the forty or something
like that. Yeah, yeah, sixty the sixty five. But there's
like highways which are just two lanes, or parkways that
are just like two lanes. Oh and they're they're everywhere.
Speaker 3 (08:08):
So yeah, you're like two lanes.
Speaker 5 (08:10):
There's Calabasas Parkway, but that's a highway.
Speaker 1 (08:13):
Yeah yeah, but two lanes, how is everybody going to
get through? So there's just traffic, like no one thought,
oh shit, we should probably expand expand the roads or
whatever transit situation needs to be a little more thought
out because of how many people are moving here. It's wild.
Speaker 3 (08:30):
Yeah. And also, I mean country has taken quite.
Speaker 5 (08:34):
The the jump, and how he wants a cowboy and
everyone wants the fantasy.
Speaker 2 (08:40):
So you know, count me in, include me. I want
a cowboy. I'm looking for a cowboy.
Speaker 4 (08:46):
Lay didn't think I would ever love a cowboy until
I moved to Nashville.
Speaker 1 (08:52):
Yeah, I know.
Speaker 3 (08:53):
I grew up only listening to hip hop.
Speaker 5 (08:55):
It was like, oh, country's you know, and then all
of a sudden, you're like, wait, I like cowboys?
Speaker 2 (09:01):
Do I like country music?
Speaker 3 (09:02):
Sorry?
Speaker 2 (09:03):
I settle.
Speaker 3 (09:07):
Am I taking back?
Speaker 1 (09:09):
I didn't. I was in a weird time in my life.
Speaker 3 (09:11):
I mean I was young. I was young.
Speaker 2 (09:14):
Don't don't talk me judging.
Speaker 4 (09:17):
So a lot of artists, hairstylists, I feel like, specialize
in one or like love, gravitate towards more like color
or just cut or styling.
Speaker 2 (09:30):
Are you all? Is there? No?
Speaker 5 (09:33):
I just I only style, And I think there's also
in styling. There's only so many categories, but there's categories
in styling as well.
Speaker 2 (09:44):
So like I always say, I'm like.
Speaker 5 (09:46):
If you want to look cool and pretty and feel
sexy in those kind of things, I'm the perfect person.
But if you want a wig and to look like,
you know, a caricature or like chain, something different and
like really like come off different than like what you
really kind of normally would gravitate towards, I don't think
(10:07):
that's where my eye goes. Yeah, So I think knowing
those kind of things in this world is very helpful
to make sure you're always setting yourself up and your
clients at for success, because you know, they have to
leave the house and you know, get their photo taken,
not me. Yeah, I don't want to show up and
be like, oh, I like you know, I'm not the
person for this job, which I've learned like later not.
Speaker 3 (10:29):
To say yes to absolutely everything and styling.
Speaker 5 (10:32):
No, I definitely want to like make sure I'm going
to give you what you are looking for.
Speaker 1 (10:39):
Yeah, the power of no is actually powerful, like in itself,
just like saying no. Either you're yes, like you're you're
like no, that's actually not the job for me, or
I need some kind of balance, so no, like I'm tired,
I'm not going to take those jobs or I'm not
going to oh, yeah, you know what I mean, which
(11:00):
is also I was thinking. I was like, I wonder
how you deal with balance?
Speaker 3 (11:07):
Yeah, and you're hard.
Speaker 5 (11:10):
And then now we're not supposed to say that we
like liked COVID, but I feel like that slowed down.
Speaker 3 (11:18):
I'm not saying it for anything.
Speaker 5 (11:19):
Besides, I loved that it was like there was no traveling.
And then also with like my job, especially with styling,
and I'll talk to like my makeup bard's friends, my
stylist friends, all or other hairstylist friends, like we you know,
even if you say no and you like commit to
your no and you're okay with it, or you're taking
time off, which nobody does. If you do that, you
(11:42):
still see who took your job, who got your job who?
You can still see it all on you know, on
social media, which then you're like, I should have just
taken it.
Speaker 3 (11:52):
It would have probably felt better than how I feel
in this moment. Yeah, but what with COVID.
Speaker 2 (11:57):
You know, no one was working, so you didn't have
to feel bad about taking that time.
Speaker 5 (12:02):
And I feel like that reset when life resumed, it resumed,
it didn't resume as at that pace, which I don't
think anyone needed that pace.
Speaker 3 (12:10):
That pace was crazy.
Speaker 5 (12:12):
And yeah, also changes like okay, you're not a bit
like not everything is gonna happen or you know, you
don't have to do every job now.
Speaker 1 (12:20):
Yeah, it's I often think about like how did I
live just I mean, I would triple book myself constantly crazy?
Do you remember on Award show days like insane? Yeah,
and you'd be like, no, Tarin, I'm not doing that
with you, you psycho.
Speaker 4 (12:37):
I have anxiety because of you. Now you gave me PTSD.
I'm so sorry. I love you so much.
Speaker 1 (12:41):
But now like on.
Speaker 4 (12:42):
Award shows where people are like, hey, can you do
this person too, I'm like more than two people.
Speaker 2 (12:46):
Oh my god, oh my god, oh my god, I'm
like no, no.
Speaker 5 (12:48):
No, Like remembering you used to be like gotta go,
I got a heart out and you're just like we're
like down to leave someone a little high and dry,
like you're happy, right, yeah, good with like half.
Speaker 2 (12:59):
Yeah this is crazy streight.
Speaker 4 (13:01):
And then you got to I'm not going to eat
for four days. I got to pack my kid up
real quick. I got ahead of Crosstown, sit in traffic.
My heart's racing.
Speaker 5 (13:09):
Yah, I'm so sorry, I'm late, and like how many
times like you're like, oh, I might be like.
Speaker 3 (13:17):
Five ten and you're like forty forty.
Speaker 5 (13:21):
But it was just yeah, everyone was like okay, it's okay, yeah,
because that was what was happening.
Speaker 2 (13:27):
There was there was a time.
Speaker 4 (13:28):
This was about ten years ago, and it was one
of those award shows where we had maybe ten people throughout.
Speaker 1 (13:33):
The day ten years ago, ten.
Speaker 2 (13:35):
Years ago, ten nine years ago. It was a while ago.
Speaker 4 (13:38):
It was when I first met Brantley Gilbert and we
were doing some a client before it forgot who it
was and I had to rush.
Speaker 2 (13:46):
It was my last client.
Speaker 4 (13:47):
I had to go to their bus to walk for
them to walk the carpet. I knock on the door. Hi,
I'm Mari, and I don't have my kit. Oh it's
in the parking lot wherever I just was. I just
left it in the parking lot.
Speaker 2 (14:03):
Yeah, I just because you were so scrambled, so scrambled. Yeah,
I showed up with all.
Speaker 3 (14:07):
You drank was coffee the whole dated and take one
sip of water.
Speaker 1 (14:10):
You're just like, oh, I'm going to do nothing, I
mean nothing with air because I don't like coffee.
Speaker 3 (14:18):
Sure, I'll help.
Speaker 1 (14:21):
Oh my god, I've done that.
Speaker 4 (14:22):
I luckily my personality like held it together. Yeah, they still.
Speaker 2 (14:29):
Hire me to this day ten years later.
Speaker 3 (14:32):
No, and you guys still laugh about that.
Speaker 2 (14:34):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (14:34):
Yeah, Like remember when you showed up to do her
makeup with no makeup?
Speaker 2 (14:38):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (14:38):
Remember that time?
Speaker 1 (14:40):
She's like, I have I have this in my purse,
Like I have like thirteen glasses in my purse. Is
that well that well?
Speaker 2 (14:48):
Oh so yeah PTSD No.
Speaker 5 (14:50):
I know.
Speaker 1 (14:50):
I think back on it and I'm like, because I'm
my our friend Chris calls me the Queen of No,
because I'll just be like, no, I don't. I'm I'm
like see into the future of something, and I'm going
to say no because I'm just knowing that I'm either
going to be too tired or not going to want
to do it, or I'm not going to be my
best at it.
Speaker 5 (15:11):
Do you know what I do when I'm like on
the fence about something, And usually it's when it's like
a super early call time or something like that, and
I've already like done a lot and I'm like, it's
a super early call time going to be a really
long day.
Speaker 3 (15:24):
I like think about when my alarm goes off.
Speaker 5 (15:27):
Would I take that money and that they were going
to pay me and give it away.
Speaker 3 (15:33):
To be like, can let me sleep longer?
Speaker 5 (15:37):
Like I would take this money out of my bank
account give you that much to keep sleeping.
Speaker 3 (15:42):
It's definitely a no.
Speaker 2 (15:44):
That's the way I think about it. Perfect, that's funnier.
Speaker 3 (15:51):
Oh man.
Speaker 5 (15:52):
Yeah, if I'm feeling like that, then you know it's
it's probably you don't want that energy of being.
Speaker 2 (15:59):
Sure no and to piggyback off.
Speaker 4 (16:02):
Like what you were saying earlier is like you want
to be able to you know what you're good at,
you know what you like, you're laying to stay in,
and when you can stay there, it's easier to say
no because it makes you more like you can give
one hundred.
Speaker 2 (16:16):
Percent to that person. You're so confident.
Speaker 4 (16:19):
And when you can give a hundred percent and you
have nothing but confidence to back it up, you're going
to deliver every single time.
Speaker 5 (16:25):
Yeah, right, And like, you know, there's just so many
times that I feel like if I'm not showing up appropriately,
then what was like Rose feels it too. Yeah, I
don't want the whole room to feel that, because you know,
we're all in it together.
Speaker 2 (16:38):
Oh yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3 (16:40):
You guys all know, yeah yeah, big.
Speaker 5 (16:41):
Time energy when you're alongside people that you're like, oh.
Speaker 1 (16:45):
Boy, yep, yeah yeah. Can we talk about this brand
that you just got launched which is insane and congratulations congratulations?
Speaker 2 (16:56):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (16:57):
Okay, First, how did it all come about? Because I
know how hard this is and how like few and
far between like a good haircare brand comes about.
Speaker 3 (17:09):
It is.
Speaker 2 (17:11):
It's definitely tough. Huh yeah, it's.
Speaker 3 (17:14):
A lot, I mean, but I give it to you.
Speaker 5 (17:16):
Like doing a podcast, doing anything that like you're stepping.
Speaker 2 (17:19):
Out from behind to in front is.
Speaker 5 (17:24):
Like I think for all of us that are like
are behind and like you know, the cheerleaders in being
in the front is scary in whatever version you're doing.
But this one came about from Jamie Louveton, who started
Monday Haircare.
Speaker 1 (17:41):
Oh.
Speaker 2 (17:41):
I absolutely love Jamie.
Speaker 5 (17:43):
She was like, I want to, you know, like do
something together, and I was like, okay, yeah, and like
the best thing about her is she knows it, she
gets it, and then she's like, Okay, it's.
Speaker 3 (17:58):
Helpful to have someone who's also like she's a girl's girl.
She's great.
Speaker 5 (18:01):
So like, if I have you know, questions and or
like a feeling any sort of like oh my god,
or you know, the feelings that all are going to
bubble up. She's really good at being like it's all
good okay, or you're doing great, or we love this,
or just like giving it to you. So she's as
far as I'm concerned, the I can't think of a
(18:22):
better outcome.
Speaker 3 (18:24):
As far as who came to me with this?
Speaker 1 (18:27):
That's so cool? And so was she like what's your
have you ever thought about this and what's your vision
for it? And you were like, actually, I have a
million ideas because I've been thinking about this forever or yeah.
Speaker 5 (18:40):
I mean I think like they they had more of
the like kind of like that's their specialty, so they're
formula good and like I love these colors. I love
this and like making that all come to life, and
then like the things that I feel like, are you know,
are really good products? I think there's obviously so many
(19:03):
products out there, So is there anything like brand new
to reinvent the wheel? Like probably not so much, but
like you want to at least enjoy the products you're using.
You want to have great notes on them, Like the
dry shampoo, I absolutely love. I hear nothing but amazing reviews,
and which is great because you know how many dry shampoos.
Speaker 3 (19:22):
Are out there.
Speaker 5 (19:23):
Usually if you like Fatis, you don't like the IGK
one or like, you know, there's a but this seems
to be a universal, which always is like the best
feeling when you are as a stylist who really only styles.
Speaker 2 (19:36):
Hearing that about styling absolutely absolutely.
Speaker 1 (19:39):
Yeah, and you can use your own brand and you're like,
and I love it.
Speaker 2 (19:42):
I love it and I know it and like.
Speaker 5 (19:44):
I love it and it's like I let my hair
air dry using repair today.
Speaker 2 (19:49):
Oh yeah, repair hair. I mean god, I want your
hair so badly.
Speaker 1 (19:52):
Also, what's really cool about this is my favorite thing
is that a stacking.
Speaker 2 (19:57):
The stacking I know.
Speaker 1 (20:00):
Thing is if you want to put it in your shower.
Speaker 2 (20:01):
Like that, that's so dope, amazing.
Speaker 3 (20:03):
Yeah, I think it's so pretty.
Speaker 4 (20:05):
Like little books, what are some lines out there that
you've been personally inspired by that you kind of like
look towards as something.
Speaker 3 (20:13):
That I always liked Monday.
Speaker 5 (20:15):
I did like a vision board and Monday was on it,
Like I want to work with Monday, which is so
funny because you're, oh, you know my vision boards are
like when I go back, ye yeah no no no
no no no no no no.
Speaker 2 (20:27):
And I'm like, I'm like Monday.
Speaker 3 (20:30):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (20:30):
But it's funny because it was like it was a
big part of it. Like you know, I'll always write
down like before this happened, like brands I wanted to
work with people I wanted to work with, and then
it started.
Speaker 3 (20:41):
But I remember Monday it was like a really big.
Speaker 5 (20:43):
Call out in one of them, and then this like
maybe like six months later started like it was in talks.
Speaker 2 (20:51):
So that was cool. Yeah, there are other brands that
I like what they're doing.
Speaker 5 (20:57):
I've always liked sunbum I've always like, yeah, sun Bums
hair skews. I think they do a great job and
I think they are like it's just cool, buy it
if you buy it. I love what they do. I
love their brand Days too, and I like day yea
d a e.
Speaker 1 (21:16):
Oh d A. Beach Spray is on another level. I
was just thinking about that because I have I use
it on myself and I have it in my kit.
They're they're so dreamy. Just the whole line is really
dreamy and the spray cereal kind of thing.
Speaker 3 (21:33):
Good.
Speaker 1 (21:34):
Yeah, I just love their beach spray like so much.
Speaker 3 (21:38):
Yeah, their beach is really good. They have like a
miracle something too.
Speaker 2 (21:42):
That's good.
Speaker 1 (21:42):
Also that I like the cream.
Speaker 5 (21:45):
I think the cream of course, I think I feel
like that cactious cream.
Speaker 3 (21:49):
Everybody knows it.
Speaker 1 (21:50):
Yeah, yeah, I think they.
Speaker 5 (21:52):
They do a really good job as far as kind
of like cooler brands.
Speaker 1 (21:58):
And it's not like a full line, right, It's just
like a couple of bibity bops and that's it.
Speaker 3 (22:04):
I think.
Speaker 5 (22:04):
So I don't really know pop shampoo conditioner, and I
think they have purple shampoo conditioner too.
Speaker 1 (22:12):
Yeah. They don't have like a full styling like it's
they're like, yeah, I feel like they release little nuggets
and then you're like, oh divine right, yeah yummy.
Speaker 4 (22:22):
Yeah I need to get on a good hair care regimen.
Speaker 1 (22:26):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (22:28):
Yeah, they do a really good job because I think
what's hard with brands is any brand I feel like
it has to be cool, Yeah, because there's enough brands,
but like cool is such a non tangible element that
likes it's either an energy that's there, it's not so
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I always that's kind of what I gravitate towards and
brands that feel cool and that's why I like mine.
Speaker 3 (22:57):
I feel like it looks cool and still looks elevated.
Speaker 1 (23:00):
Yeah, I definitely feel like you've captured that in this
brand for sure. For sure. Like it's it's not overly scented,
which I enjoy too. So like you get like you're like, oh,
I still like smell really like I smell yummy in
the shower. I smell yummy after the shower. But it's
not like too much, you know what I mean, right,
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because I actually kind of have been loving fragrance free stuff.
It's probably just because I'm pregnant and I'm trying not
to like kill myself and my view.
Speaker 5 (23:28):
Are Yeah, I know, first and all, my congratulations, thank
you so much.
Speaker 1 (23:36):
Yeah, it's an accidental got pregnant at forty one situation,
and I.
Speaker 2 (23:41):
Love We couldn't We couldn't be happier.
Speaker 1 (23:47):
Best friends, we could be. I know. It's actually something
I never saw myself doing. But now I'm like so
excited that it just it just happened. And I have
the best partner and he's so cute and he's so excited.
We were both just like living life going. We don't
want kids. We're so rich, and then we're rich. We're
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so rich and famous, and then I got pregnant.
Speaker 5 (24:11):
I want you, yeah, kids, and some kids like no, no, no,
I'm coming down for you.
Speaker 2 (24:16):
Guys.
Speaker 1 (24:16):
Oh yeah, this little soul was like yeah, yeah, like that.
Speaker 2 (24:19):
They seem kind of fun.
Speaker 3 (24:22):
I think we'll have a good life with them.
Speaker 2 (24:25):
Oh guys, Oh my.
Speaker 1 (24:26):
God, I'm gonna have a lot of eye. I know,
I'm excited.
Speaker 2 (24:28):
Woody. His name is Woody, Woody Wilkerson.
Speaker 1 (24:29):
Little baby Woody.
Speaker 2 (24:31):
Stop.
Speaker 1 (24:34):
But I've been like really sensitive to smelled during this
whole entire situation, situation, pregnancy, my condition, and even before
I even found out I was pregnant, I was like
getting rid of super toxic ship and so like a
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really light fragrance is just wow to me right now.
And so like I love this line that just understated.
Speaker 2 (25:05):
Yeah, I feel like.
Speaker 1 (25:06):
It's there, but it's also it's not.
Speaker 5 (25:08):
Your I mean, you obviously want like a good experience
in the shower, everyone does, and you want your hair
to feel good, but you also most people leave the
shower and are like using like scented body wash, and
then your spraying, like your lotion is scented, and then
your perfume scented, and then you just like it's too much,
(25:29):
so like you know, somebody's got to sit back and
just like deliver on.
Speaker 3 (25:33):
Like your hair looks good.
Speaker 5 (25:34):
Yeah, you're enjoying your experience and your hair looks good,
and you got a light scent, so people like are like, oh,
you smell clean.
Speaker 3 (25:41):
That's perfect.
Speaker 1 (25:42):
Yeah, it's all yeah, is to smell clean.
Speaker 2 (25:45):
I also want my.
Speaker 4 (25:45):
Hair to grow, that's all I want. It's stopped growing.
It stopped growing at this length right here. I was
talking to my friend in the gym today and she
was like, I don't know if it's my it's like
or Perry Perry periwinkle metopause.
Speaker 2 (25:58):
I like to call it.
Speaker 3 (26:00):
Yeah, that's like crazy.
Speaker 2 (26:03):
I'm like, right, well, it's happened. Yes, it's happening.
Speaker 4 (26:09):
So my hair, like you know, my hair used to
be full, and clearly the.
Speaker 2 (26:14):
Texture has changed a lot.
Speaker 4 (26:15):
Well, I put clippings in now because it's literally stop.
Speaker 3 (26:19):
What are you? What are you doing? What are you
using in the shower?
Speaker 2 (26:22):
That's what I'm like.
Speaker 4 (26:23):
I don't know, I've tried so many different things and
I think I'm switching.
Speaker 3 (26:27):
Doing too much protein in your hair though, no.
Speaker 4 (26:32):
Right now, I think I'm I'm on Native because I
was like, I need to just like go clean slate,
like no soul fates, I need to like go I don't.
I don't know, like and I'm really excited that I'm
talking to you right now an expert and hopefully I
can get on this.
Speaker 3 (26:48):
And I just I like to repair. I feel like
my hair got really long. I have to.
Speaker 5 (26:53):
I've had to really a little time because it just
like keeps growing, which says nobody.
Speaker 2 (26:58):
Ever, which says nobody ever ever.
Speaker 5 (27:01):
Ever, I've seen it really grow. And it's like actually
like in the like clinical results, not just saying no. Sure,
you know you read things always, whether it's my own,
clinical real to someone else and you're like, yeah, you're bullshit,
And then you see it happen, You're like, oh, well.
Speaker 4 (27:17):
That's why you're doing this, so you can help people,
So you can help people actually get results, so like your.
Speaker 3 (27:22):
Biblely have seen it helps.
Speaker 5 (27:24):
But I also feel like it's always if you went
through a phase of using too much protein in your
hair or too many like rebuilding or bond building stuff,
if you overuse that, which I don't think there's like
quite enough education about like how much you should and
shouldn't be using. It's the same as it's the same
(27:46):
concept of like when you turn your curling iron on,
does it have to go to the highest heat setting?
Speaker 3 (27:53):
Is that right for your hair?
Speaker 5 (27:54):
Probably not, you know, like you probably only need like
a middle heat setting, don't need.
Speaker 3 (28:00):
The highest heat setting.
Speaker 5 (28:02):
So it's the same with like any bond building too
much protein, And honestly, like nobody needs too much moisture
either that's going to weigh your hair down. But the
bond buildings sometimes it just like opens your hair up
too much and then it like and I do I'm
not like a scientist on any of this, but I've
heard and seen people have had some issues when over
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using it.
Speaker 2 (28:26):
Which makes sense.
Speaker 4 (28:28):
Spray the protein spray from IGK, I use that pretty often.
Speaker 2 (28:33):
Use I don't think that might be.
Speaker 5 (28:35):
I don't I've never tried that one or used that
one or anything about it.
Speaker 3 (28:39):
But yeah, I just think everything in moderation.
Speaker 5 (28:41):
Yeah, And I'm not trying to get any like all
those things are great, for sure, there's a time and
place for them. It's just they're like it's not an
every day you don't need a scout scrub every single day,
you know, right, yeah, same concept?
Speaker 1 (28:58):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I hear you do. You're you a.
Speaker 4 (29:00):
Fan of like natural remedies too, like for hair growth,
like oil.
Speaker 5 (29:07):
Well, people love rice, water, people love what is it?
Castor oil?
Speaker 3 (29:12):
I think is the one. I think people are into
that one.
Speaker 1 (29:16):
I love that for my us.
Speaker 5 (29:18):
I mean, I know, like for postpartum there's like drops
you can use. I forget what they're called. It's a
monomoxo something.
Speaker 2 (29:27):
The monomoxa monomoxa.
Speaker 5 (29:30):
Yeah, there's like Stephie can put in like spurs, specific spots. Yeah,
when that when you knock down that door, which I
did my daughters eight and I was like eight year
old daughter too little like but whatever it was like
wings is crazy.
Speaker 4 (29:47):
Yeah, I had a cut banks. I have an eight
year old daughter too.
Speaker 3 (29:50):
Oh there you go. Oh girls are the best, sorry.
Speaker 2 (29:52):
Best, let's say what I.
Speaker 1 (29:53):
Said, Well, I wanted a girl, but I'm excited to
have a big gay son, so like.
Speaker 5 (30:01):
But then I have no point of reference of like
if a son's great, I'm just like girls are the.
Speaker 2 (30:05):
Back, especially eight year old. What's your daughter's name, Laura,
her name's breathe breeze like the wind.
Speaker 1 (30:11):
Yeah. Cool, that's a really cool name.
Speaker 3 (30:13):
Cool. What's what's your name?
Speaker 2 (30:16):
Charlie?
Speaker 5 (30:17):
Charlie, Charlie can't go wrong. Everyone loves the Charlie. I
don't know one girl Charlie that.
Speaker 2 (30:22):
People are like Charlie. Fuck that Charlie sucks.
Speaker 3 (30:25):
Yeah, Like I was like, Oh, she's cool. I want
to be friends with her.
Speaker 2 (30:28):
Every singer exactly, that's Charlie.
Speaker 3 (30:30):
So that's good.
Speaker 1 (30:32):
I have a question, yes, So I feel like, doing
what we do, especially now that you've like started a brand,
how do you deal with like imposter syndrome even not
having a brand. I'm sure we've like we've all dealt
with it. It's so I'm always like, how does everyone
(30:54):
do it? Because we all get in our own heads
or we all like get in our own way or whatever.
Just how do you deal with that?
Speaker 2 (31:03):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (31:03):
I don't know that because like, yeah, it's like when
people say something to me like I am used to
like I said, being you know in the getting ready
parts when you have to kind of step out, that's
been challenging, you think, because you know, it's like scary
(31:24):
to put yourself out there in a different way, especially
because social media is obviously amazing and so powerful, however harsh,
So you're always scared the more you put yourself out there,
Like the more oh you are, you're opening a door.
Speaker 3 (31:42):
Yeah, like I don't want to, I don't.
Speaker 2 (31:44):
You just got to turn the noise off.
Speaker 3 (31:46):
Yeah, that's gard.
Speaker 5 (31:47):
That's the only part is like making sure like I
don't ever because I'll get like easily distracted from those things.
Speaker 2 (31:53):
Sure.
Speaker 5 (31:54):
Yeah, like that will definitely get in my head and
then reflect outward. I hear like anything at all negative,
but that doesn't matter, but that's been happening forever. That's like,
I know it is I with this, but you like,
you know, it's just a new step.
Speaker 1 (32:13):
Yeah, they're like different ways. You can deal with it
in like a positive way instead of a negative way,
or how I would deal with it ten years ago
is different than how I deal with it now, or
you know, like whatever. It's just I'm always so curious
because everybody online just looks so like they're not struggling
with anything, and then you're like, I know, oh it's
real life.
Speaker 5 (32:33):
Yeah, cors, I can't feel like what is there to
be upset about.
Speaker 1 (32:38):
Really, at the end of the day, it's like we
played dress up for a living.
Speaker 5 (32:42):
Well, no, I don't like I'm like everything's great, Like
I love my life, I love my friends, I.
Speaker 3 (32:47):
Love my daughter, I love having fun.
Speaker 5 (32:49):
I amen my brand, Amen fucking boom.
Speaker 3 (32:55):
What times I get. I love who I partnered with.
I love Yeah, so good. Like even if like a
little noise gets.
Speaker 1 (33:02):
In, it's like, yeah, yeah, whatever, it doesn't matter. Ever
carry once said, yeah, nothing matters.
Speaker 2 (33:09):
Nothing matters. You're my type of vibe.
Speaker 4 (33:11):
That's how I'm like, what a privilege it is to
be alive and to be able to get to do
what we do.
Speaker 2 (33:15):
And yeah, like it's not that hardy, it's not bad.
It's that when you think about it, and it's not
that deep. I'm not that cool and it's not that deep.
Speaker 1 (33:25):
It's never that deep.
Speaker 5 (33:27):
Yeah, And like ultimately I get to like hang out
for a living like, O, how nice?
Speaker 3 (33:34):
So what's really like all that bad or hard about it?
Speaker 2 (33:39):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (33:39):
And I feel like if I if I'm like having
a day where I'm like it's usually like I'm overworked
and I'll like just be sensitive and I'll be like
oh you know, or like something will get to me
then whatever. Then honestly, sometimes even if I just go
to work like that, social interaction is like forget about
(33:59):
anything that was bothering you on the drive over A yeah.
Speaker 1 (34:02):
You're like, I just needed a nap.
Speaker 3 (34:04):
So sorry, guys, I needed a nap is so real.
Speaker 1 (34:09):
I just needed a n app.
Speaker 3 (34:10):
I'm sorry.
Speaker 1 (34:14):
I picked everybody.
Speaker 3 (34:16):
And my mom will be like, take a nap.
Speaker 2 (34:18):
Yeah. I will know it's three o'clock.
Speaker 4 (34:20):
There will be no clock around, but I know it's
three o'clock because my internal nap like a baby, like
a baby, a little baby. Every day I'm like, oh,
my naptime.
Speaker 1 (34:30):
I didn't know you were a nap.
Speaker 3 (34:31):
Oh.
Speaker 2 (34:31):
I love napping.
Speaker 4 (34:32):
If I'm not doing anything or if I'm doing stuff
during the day, I know, like my nap time and
then I get my second wind.
Speaker 2 (34:39):
It's my second chapter.
Speaker 1 (34:40):
Of the day. Okay, I a nap. Okay, are you ready?
We're gonna wrap this up so and I know you're
so busy, but of course we have rapid fires. What
else would we do it?
Speaker 3 (34:50):
Okay, do it?
Speaker 1 (34:52):
Favorite go to hairstyle?
Speaker 5 (34:53):
I like that cool girl bend. It's like a really
undone bend.
Speaker 1 (34:57):
Yeah, we love that. Least favor hair trend like ever
any genre, any year, any decade, any anything.
Speaker 5 (35:05):
I hated those extension ponytails to the floor.
Speaker 1 (35:11):
M oh, I feel like they're still here. Well there's
still around sometimes.
Speaker 3 (35:16):
Yeah, I'm not good at it, so don't call me
to do it. Yeah?
Speaker 2 (35:23):
Mine right now?
Speaker 4 (35:24):
Personally, my problem is the weird, the bang, the bang
o the bang.
Speaker 5 (35:29):
What is it going on?
Speaker 1 (35:37):
I feel like the only person that could really really
kill that look is the lead singer of Die ant Word.
Do you remember that band?
Speaker 2 (35:44):
Yes? Yes, Yeah, that's it. That's that's it. Only her,
she's it.
Speaker 3 (35:49):
Or like, don't bring that inspo and think it's going
to look like you.
Speaker 2 (35:53):
Let it die at Antword?
Speaker 1 (35:54):
Yeah, let it die at York. Best industry advice you
were ever given?
Speaker 3 (36:00):
I guess, like think it till you make it?
Speaker 1 (36:01):
Love that. Who is your hair icon?
Speaker 3 (36:05):
Like whose hair do I love?
Speaker 1 (36:07):
Yeah? It could be whose hair do you love? Or
if there's a hairstylist that you idol?
Speaker 3 (36:11):
Or I always love Sanna Miller's hair.
Speaker 2 (36:14):
Oh good one, nice one.
Speaker 3 (36:16):
She has the best hair.
Speaker 1 (36:18):
Gorgeous, Ye have really good hair, favorite hair trick or
hair hack.
Speaker 5 (36:23):
Honestly, I feel like it's if you want this bend
all you do is you as it's wet and drying,
you push it down like this, you let it sit
back here when it's damp, and then when you take
it out you have that bend.
Speaker 2 (36:36):
No ship, no ship.
Speaker 3 (36:39):
But that's how you get this.
Speaker 5 (36:42):
But I've been leaving it out because I don't I mean,
my hair is so a little damp. I don't want
to be like this, like you know, the whole time,
but that hack I feel like, and then you just
kind of push it down.
Speaker 4 (36:54):
Yea all these years, like everyone is always trying to
do it, and like if you put an iron here,
that's gonna.
Speaker 1 (37:01):
Make's gonna make it go back.
Speaker 5 (37:03):
Yeah, yeah, you can sort of do it if you
go like this, maybe with an iron, but like it's
just easier.
Speaker 2 (37:09):
And if you do, you can just put heat on
it also.
Speaker 3 (37:12):
And tuck it and let it cool back there and
then when you take it out.
Speaker 5 (37:17):
This is such a terrible example. Howd I just fully
let my hair air dry like I normally do. You
would really see it, but we know we ty to
look a little more professional.
Speaker 2 (37:26):
Oh we see it.
Speaker 1 (37:27):
Listen, Okay, we're all yeah, Fay must have travel product.
Speaker 3 (37:32):
For yourself, probably just a mini wet brush.
Speaker 2 (37:37):
Okay, many wet brush.
Speaker 1 (37:38):
Okay, I hear you, like, I.
Speaker 3 (37:39):
Have to use the wet brush. I have fine hair.
It'll fall apart.
Speaker 1 (37:42):
I hear you.
Speaker 5 (37:42):
I see it'll be trying to brush with the Mason
pierson my hair out of the shower.
Speaker 3 (37:46):
I'll lose it all.
Speaker 1 (37:47):
Also, what's a Aren't those like six hundred dollars or something?
Speaker 3 (37:51):
Right?
Speaker 2 (37:52):
But you know some people like yeah, totally yes, you
are like, oh, I spend.
Speaker 5 (37:57):
Six hundred dollars. This is this is the brush I
should be using in every instance.
Speaker 3 (38:01):
You're like, you know the seven dollars.
Speaker 1 (38:03):
Dry hair, Yeah, seven dollars web brush.
Speaker 3 (38:06):
No, no, no, no, I just want Yeah, that's what
I need.
Speaker 1 (38:08):
Luxury.
Speaker 3 (38:12):
And all you hear is the ripping.
Speaker 1 (38:15):
A Mason pears and haircut. What is your go to
hair tool that you use personally and in your kit?
Speaker 2 (38:25):
Okay, So at home, I use this.
Speaker 3 (38:28):
It's like a it's a conair brush.
Speaker 5 (38:31):
Yeah, it's like a hot tool brush that's like a
blowout brush, but it's it's on you only use it
on dry hair.
Speaker 1 (38:37):
Okay.
Speaker 5 (38:37):
So it's like when my hair is dry, I'll let
go in and like twist the ends and like maybe
get myself some volume and it always sits pretty.
Speaker 3 (38:44):
That's at home.
Speaker 5 (38:46):
The one tool I can do anything with is I
feel like a one inch yeah for one in a quarter,
not one inches too small?
Speaker 3 (38:54):
One in a quarter?
Speaker 1 (38:55):
Okay, your favorite hair tread right now.
Speaker 3 (39:00):
Oh I've been I've been really loving well executed triple
barrel waves.
Speaker 2 (39:07):
Okay, okay, executed triple barrels.
Speaker 5 (39:10):
So the well executed, like when it looks like that
really cool like mermaidy hair on.
Speaker 2 (39:17):
Now you don't see any.
Speaker 5 (39:18):
Crease marks and you don't see exactly that it went
like this, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (39:22):
And the biggest hair care mistake that you think people
use or do on accident.
Speaker 3 (39:28):
I think it's the over protein building.
Speaker 5 (39:31):
Okay, to be honest and then feeling like you you know,
you did it to yourself, and when the truth is
like maybe in some ways you did because you didn't
read the packaging, because but who does?
Speaker 3 (39:44):
Yeah, you know what am I to do?
Speaker 5 (39:46):
Read the bottle and it's going to tell me to
watch once or twice like I already know that, you know,
And then you don't think anything's going to say something new,
so nobody goes through that step. And then people are like,
oh my god, what happened and it was just a mistake.
Speaker 2 (40:01):
Yeah, it's amazing. I'm overwashing. I go on the protein.
Speaker 4 (40:05):
I'm overproteining. I go in the sauna five to six
days a week, so I have to wash my hair.
Speaker 3 (40:09):
Oh I feel like the sauna too, my not.
Speaker 2 (40:13):
I just found that are doing to.
Speaker 5 (40:15):
Sauna you can put I like to put like a
mask on my hair when I go in, so it
like sinks in, you know what I mean? Oh okay,
I like to do that so it like really sinks in,
or like some conditioner.
Speaker 4 (40:28):
Should I wet my hair first and then put it
in and then go in the sauna.
Speaker 5 (40:32):
If you're going to take a shower after, you're going
to like go through all those steps anyways. But I
feel like when you're putting that like hot dry heat,
that's gonna make hair more susceptible to snapping. So if
you kind of coat it and let it sink in
and protect it then.
Speaker 1 (40:48):
With a non protein like something that isn't protein though, right, Yeah.
Speaker 4 (40:52):
I really need lore today, which is because I talked
about my hair all day at the gym.
Speaker 2 (40:55):
Tie was like, it's what's happening to it. But I
really think that the years.
Speaker 5 (40:59):
Okay, I know, and now you know, and you can
like just keep it in your routine and lessen it up.
Speaker 2 (41:06):
Yeah, I've bet a lot of the RepA issue repair
conditioner right here. Yeah, this is all me tomorrow.
Speaker 3 (41:11):
You could put that in.
Speaker 5 (41:12):
You could just like put that in before you go
in the sauna. Yeah, like assuming you shower after and
wash your hair. But it sounds like with what you
just said that you're over washing. You probably sauna and
then wash.
Speaker 3 (41:24):
Yes, yeah, but I don't.
Speaker 5 (41:26):
I mean I don't know like your hair and what
it can take. I can't see it, but I feel like.
Speaker 2 (41:32):
I wash my hair every day.
Speaker 4 (41:34):
Oh yeah, I think I honestly though, somebody told me,
like one person I was in there, like, yeah, saunas
are amazing for you. The benefits are outrageous. But one
thing that it does cause is like hair loss over
a long amount of time. And I've been doing it
regularly for about six years.
Speaker 2 (41:48):
And maybe that's what it is. Yeah, that and hormones.
Speaker 4 (41:53):
Yeah, I'm going to try to do this because I'm
not going to knock go on the sauna or get
a funny little cap.
Speaker 2 (41:57):
Yeah, funny little cat.
Speaker 5 (41:58):
I mean, I feel like there's a like solutions that
will help you, and I feel like that is always
that's a good one.
Speaker 2 (42:05):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (42:05):
Yeah, well amazing. Thank you so much for joining at
Truly and listeners and people that are watching you. Can
you just go to Laura Poco on Instagram her personal
one or low Laura Poco Hair and then anybody can
pick this up on Laura pocohair dot com or no.
Speaker 3 (42:24):
Well Target Target, Yeah.
Speaker 1 (42:26):
Okay, it's not online yet, it's just a Target. Yeah, Tarjet.
That's so congratulations.
Speaker 2 (42:34):
Yeah, that's a major Target, but it's.
Speaker 3 (42:37):
Do you love Target? Growing up in La though.
Speaker 1 (42:40):
Uh yeah, I feel like I've been going to Target
for like ever and every time I go back to La,
I'm like, oh, the Target's in La just hit different.
Speaker 5 (42:49):
Yeah, the hometown Target if there's nothing like see you later.
Speaker 1 (42:53):
Yeah, the ones in Beverly Hills, the ones in Glendale,
the one like they're just they just have all the
fresh new ship.
Speaker 2 (43:01):
They've got that six hundred dollars brush. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (43:03):
Yeah, I'm so excited to try everything of yours.
Speaker 1 (43:12):
Yeah. Absolutely, And if you're ever in Nashville, come hang
out with us or tell your agent to book you
more in Nashville. That'd be great.
Speaker 3 (43:19):
Okay, I'll put it on my next vision board. Itill happen.
Speaker 1 (43:21):
Yeah, lock up us on your vision board. Thank you
so much.
Speaker 3 (43:26):
Guys.
Speaker 2 (43:27):
Yes, we'll talk to you Laura. Okay, cool,
I get a little such up. Hi am Teren. I'm Mari,
and you're listening to the touch up. We hope you're
picking up what we're putting down.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
Hi Laura, Hi Laura. I'm Mari.
Speaker 3 (00:21):
Nice to meet you.
Speaker 1 (00:22):
Nice to meet you, and I'm eating an apple play Teren,
Yeah all the time?
Speaker 3 (00:26):
Perfect.
Speaker 2 (00:27):
Oh my gosh, look at your hair and look at
your hair.
Speaker 1 (00:29):
What lip are you wearing?
Speaker 3 (00:30):
I think it's just mac spice.
Speaker 4 (00:34):
That's my color. I've been wearing it since. It's the
perfect color. It's the perfect everyone.
Speaker 5 (00:41):
I mean when like also, some of them get to
like pinky and I can't go pinky.
Speaker 1 (00:49):
I can do pink.
Speaker 4 (00:50):
I mean literally spice liner every day of my life
for over twenty years.
Speaker 5 (00:56):
No, I know, it's like one of those that, like,
you know what other one I like though, that's similar.
Her is the Victoria Beckham number two.
Speaker 2 (01:02):
Oh tried that one.
Speaker 1 (01:03):
Only her eyeliners, not her lip liner liners.
Speaker 3 (01:06):
Really, I've never her.
Speaker 4 (01:08):
Oh my god, they're glighty, they're.
Speaker 1 (01:11):
Lighty and insane. They're so good. Okay, yeah, they're so good.
I feel like.
Speaker 3 (01:16):
She kills it. She does a great job.
Speaker 1 (01:18):
Yeah she does, And I feel like it's.
Speaker 5 (01:24):
Not really Yeah, I mean she rebranded her guy and
made him something she can do any brands.
Speaker 1 (01:31):
Yeah, truly truly spice up you live.
Speaker 3 (01:36):
Exactly. Well, thank you so.
Speaker 1 (01:38):
Much for joining us. Welcome to the touch Up Podcast.
We're so excited to have you me Yeah and hello, Hi,
what you just like have a brand that's so insane?
I know, before we jump into that, though, I love
to ask, you know, because we do make up and
hair too. I love to know, like where are you from?
(01:59):
And how did you stumble into this insane industry?
Speaker 2 (02:04):
Right?
Speaker 5 (02:04):
Because it is definitely a stumble in. I feel like
there's not a linear way. There's like steps you can
take that like are on the path, but it's not
a straight line, Like you know, corporate America has more
much straighter lines than that. I'm from Ohio and I
moved to I went to hair school there, did that,
(02:28):
and then you realize very.
Speaker 1 (02:29):
Quickly that like salons aren't it.
Speaker 5 (02:32):
Once you no the salon. I give people so much
credit that can do that.
Speaker 2 (02:36):
It is.
Speaker 5 (02:38):
Like when I have to do salon days for the
brand or anything, I come home and I'm like, what
was I talking about for twelve hours in a high
pitch voice, like I blacked out. I think I overshared
like crazy, but some people have such a way of
doing it.
Speaker 3 (02:55):
So anyway, I realized that wasn't it, and I moved
to New.
Speaker 5 (02:57):
York, where I spent a lot of time honestly more
having fun in my twenties, which I felt like then
in turn full circled me now to where I am
with the brand and everything. But then it became that
was also what twenty like fourteen fifteen, when it was
like you could do things more for fun, You could live,
(03:18):
you didn't need so much money to live, and if
you were up and coming, it was affordable to do so,
like flights weren't insane. If you wanted to go, you know,
do a job in LA you could actually like still
maybe make a hundred bucks as opposed to netting negative
you know where I was going to say a lot
of credits.
Speaker 4 (03:37):
You could like survive on like one hundred dollars a
week in New York City, like two years ago.
Speaker 5 (03:42):
When I first moved to New York, I made like
I think it was like four hundred bucks. Yeah, it
was crazy, no, I know, but you were like, everything's fun,
It's fine.
Speaker 1 (03:51):
Yeah, you could care and singing on a couch or
sleeping in a bathtub isn't a big deal in your
twenty How many bathtubs have I probably loved whatever totally.
Speaker 5 (03:59):
I still think about my six floor walk ups like
with like, oh it was so great.
Speaker 1 (04:05):
Yeah, no closet, but yeah.
Speaker 5 (04:07):
And then I started coming to so I.
Speaker 3 (04:10):
I feel like my.
Speaker 5 (04:11):
Big job I did was like something for Fun with
Ashley Benson. And that was when Pretty Little Liars was
big and that the Go Gro was really big, and
that was kind of the moment where then I was
able to move gracefully into celebrity. And then you know,
celebrity does help you help open a lot more doors.
Speaker 1 (04:33):
And then and you're in a uh you're in La, right, yes?
Speaker 3 (04:36):
And then I moved to La probably nine years ago.
Speaker 1 (04:40):
Almost wow, I love it. I know, I love La.
It's home for me because I'm from there. But I
don't know, you know, everybody there. There's like a love
and hate relationship with La. But I love La. There's
things I hate. Takes forever, Yeah, takes Oh, I don't
even know, because I I worked and I mean I've
been doing this for like something near so I definitely
(05:02):
had a career when I left and came to Nashville.
But I definitely feel like being in a smaller city,
I've done bigger things here than I did there. I'm like,
I don't even know. There's just so many talented people
To even be able to do what you do and
have the roster that you have is like wild because
(05:23):
there's just like there's so much competition and I know everybody,
you know, nobody's really I feel like La, everybody's really
like kind to one another. I could I could be stripping,
but it just feels like you have your clients, they
have their client Like it's just there's so much.
Speaker 5 (05:38):
Work, right, there's all yeah, because there's like so many people,
whereas Nashville is I suppose smaller, Yeah, and there's like
a couple top tiers. But I feel like I have
some friends that go to Nashville and work a lot,
and I'm like kind of a little jealous that they
get that ask Like, no one asked me to go
to Nashville, And I'm like, Nashville sounds great, like I
(05:58):
would have like York, La, I can bounce easily, yeah,
but like if you can break into a whole nother market.
I think that's such a superpower and skill set that
I give you a lot of credit for it.
Speaker 3 (06:09):
It's very hard to do.
Speaker 4 (06:10):
Yeah, and it's such a beautiful community here.
Speaker 1 (06:13):
Oh yeah.
Speaker 2 (06:13):
Everyone literally truly knows each other. It's great.
Speaker 4 (06:16):
Every time we go to an award show, it's just
being friends. And yeah, it's really I think it's a
little bit more special. And I'm from New York, so
I understand that.
Speaker 2 (06:25):
It's Yeah, you get it, I get it. I get it.
Speaker 3 (06:28):
So when I go where you're like, oh, everyone's happy
to see each other.
Speaker 2 (06:31):
Yeah, and like what do you want happy? Yeah?
Speaker 4 (06:34):
Oh you don't want anything great because I'm very much
totally totally going to be a.
Speaker 1 (06:38):
Part of that same here where, like you know, New
York is very like everyone's focused and like not like
shitty attitude or anything, but they're just they're focused. You're busy, yeah, alone. Yeah.
And then La which is just like so yippity yappity
and fast paced, and then moving here, I'm like, did
you just ask me how my mother's doing?
Speaker 2 (06:58):
Yeah, yeah, it's funny.
Speaker 1 (07:00):
Yeah, it's just the it's definitely slowed me down living here, sure, yeah, absolutely, Yeah.
Speaker 3 (07:07):
But after a while, it's kind of nice.
Speaker 5 (07:09):
And I bet you're not that upset about the lack
of traffic.
Speaker 2 (07:15):
No, we have a.
Speaker 1 (07:16):
Lot, a lot of traffic.
Speaker 4 (07:18):
Traffic there, Oh my god, there is. Our city has
grown exponentially.
Speaker 1 (07:24):
Yeaht decade, it's like sixteen hundred people a day move here. Yeah,
it's why traffic or it's insane. Yeah there, They didn't
the city of Nashville didn't know how quickly. So there's
things called highways here, which I didn't know about when
(07:47):
I first moved here. I was like, a freeway, that's it.
What else do you need a freeway?
Speaker 2 (07:50):
You call them freeways in California.
Speaker 1 (07:52):
Yeah, I call it the one on one. That's why
I say like the sixty five, the forty or something
like that. Yeah, yeah, sixty the sixty five. But there's
like highways which are just two lanes, or parkways that
are just like two lanes. Oh and they're they're everywhere.
Speaker 3 (08:08):
So yeah, you're like two lanes.
Speaker 5 (08:10):
There's Calabasas Parkway, but that's a highway.
Speaker 1 (08:13):
Yeah yeah, but two lanes, how is everybody going to
get through? So there's just traffic, like no one thought,
oh shit, we should probably expand expand the roads or
whatever transit situation needs to be a little more thought
out because of how many people are moving here. It's wild.
Speaker 3 (08:30):
Yeah. And also, I mean country has taken quite.
Speaker 5 (08:34):
The the jump, and how he wants a cowboy and
everyone wants the fantasy.
Speaker 2 (08:40):
So you know, count me in, include me. I want
a cowboy. I'm looking for a cowboy.
Speaker 4 (08:46):
Lay didn't think I would ever love a cowboy until
I moved to Nashville.
Speaker 1 (08:52):
Yeah, I know.
Speaker 3 (08:53):
I grew up only listening to hip hop.
Speaker 5 (08:55):
It was like, oh, country's you know, and then all
of a sudden, you're like, wait, I like cowboys?
Speaker 2 (09:01):
Do I like country music?
Speaker 3 (09:02):
Sorry?
Speaker 2 (09:03):
I settle.
Speaker 3 (09:07):
Am I taking back?
Speaker 1 (09:09):
I didn't. I was in a weird time in my life.
Speaker 3 (09:11):
I mean I was young. I was young.
Speaker 2 (09:14):
Don't don't talk me judging.
Speaker 4 (09:17):
So a lot of artists, hairstylists, I feel like, specialize
in one or like love, gravitate towards more like color
or just cut or styling.
Speaker 2 (09:30):
Are you all? Is there? No?
Speaker 5 (09:33):
I just I only style, And I think there's also
in styling. There's only so many categories, but there's categories
in styling as well.
Speaker 2 (09:44):
So like I always say, I'm like.
Speaker 5 (09:46):
If you want to look cool and pretty and feel
sexy in those kind of things, I'm the perfect person.
But if you want a wig and to look like,
you know, a caricature or like chain, something different and
like really like come off different than like what you
really kind of normally would gravitate towards, I don't think
(10:07):
that's where my eye goes. Yeah, So I think knowing
those kind of things in this world is very helpful
to make sure you're always setting yourself up and your
clients at for success, because you know, they have to
leave the house and you know, get their photo taken,
not me. Yeah, I don't want to show up and
be like, oh, I like you know, I'm not the
person for this job, which I've learned like later not.
Speaker 3 (10:29):
To say yes to absolutely everything and styling.
Speaker 5 (10:32):
No, I definitely want to like make sure I'm going
to give you what you are looking for.
Speaker 1 (10:39):
Yeah, the power of no is actually powerful, like in itself,
just like saying no. Either you're yes, like you're you're
like no, that's actually not the job for me, or
I need some kind of balance, so no, like I'm tired,
I'm not going to take those jobs or I'm not
going to oh, yeah, you know what I mean, which
(11:00):
is also I was thinking. I was like, I wonder
how you deal with balance?
Speaker 3 (11:07):
Yeah, and you're hard.
Speaker 5 (11:10):
And then now we're not supposed to say that we
like liked COVID, but I feel like that slowed down.
Speaker 3 (11:18):
I'm not saying it for anything.
Speaker 5 (11:19):
Besides, I loved that it was like there was no traveling.
And then also with like my job, especially with styling,
and I'll talk to like my makeup bard's friends, my
stylist friends, all or other hairstylist friends, like we you know,
even if you say no and you like commit to
your no and you're okay with it, or you're taking
time off, which nobody does. If you do that, you
(11:42):
still see who took your job, who got your job who?
You can still see it all on you know, on
social media, which then you're like, I should have just
taken it.
Speaker 3 (11:52):
It would have probably felt better than how I feel
in this moment. Yeah, but what with COVID.
Speaker 2 (11:57):
You know, no one was working, so you didn't have
to feel bad about taking that time.
Speaker 5 (12:02):
And I feel like that reset when life resumed, it resumed,
it didn't resume as at that pace, which I don't
think anyone needed that pace.
Speaker 3 (12:10):
That pace was crazy.
Speaker 5 (12:12):
And yeah, also changes like okay, you're not a bit
like not everything is gonna happen or you know, you
don't have to do every job now.
Speaker 1 (12:20):
Yeah, it's I often think about like how did I
live just I mean, I would triple book myself constantly crazy?
Do you remember on Award show days like insane? Yeah,
and you'd be like, no, Tarin, I'm not doing that
with you, you psycho.
Speaker 4 (12:37):
I have anxiety because of you. Now you gave me PTSD.
I'm so sorry. I love you so much.
Speaker 1 (12:41):
But now like on.
Speaker 4 (12:42):
Award shows where people are like, hey, can you do
this person too, I'm like more than two people.
Speaker 2 (12:46):
Oh my god, oh my god, oh my god, I'm
like no, no.
Speaker 5 (12:48):
No, Like remembering you used to be like gotta go,
I got a heart out and you're just like we're
like down to leave someone a little high and dry,
like you're happy, right, yeah, good with like half.
Speaker 2 (12:59):
Yeah this is crazy streight.
Speaker 4 (13:01):
And then you got to I'm not going to eat
for four days. I got to pack my kid up
real quick. I got ahead of Crosstown, sit in traffic.
My heart's racing.
Speaker 5 (13:09):
Yah, I'm so sorry, I'm late, and like how many
times like you're like, oh, I might be like.
Speaker 3 (13:17):
Five ten and you're like forty forty.
Speaker 5 (13:21):
But it was just yeah, everyone was like okay, it's okay, yeah,
because that was what was happening.
Speaker 2 (13:27):
There was there was a time.
Speaker 4 (13:28):
This was about ten years ago, and it was one
of those award shows where we had maybe ten people throughout.
Speaker 1 (13:33):
The day ten years ago, ten.
Speaker 2 (13:35):
Years ago, ten nine years ago. It was a while ago.
Speaker 4 (13:38):
It was when I first met Brantley Gilbert and we
were doing some a client before it forgot who it
was and I had to rush.
Speaker 2 (13:46):
It was my last client.
Speaker 4 (13:47):
I had to go to their bus to walk for
them to walk the carpet. I knock on the door. Hi,
I'm Mari, and I don't have my kit. Oh it's
in the parking lot wherever I just was. I just
left it in the parking lot.
Speaker 2 (14:03):
Yeah, I just because you were so scrambled, so scrambled. Yeah,
I showed up with all.
Speaker 3 (14:07):
You drank was coffee the whole dated and take one
sip of water.
Speaker 1 (14:10):
You're just like, oh, I'm going to do nothing, I
mean nothing with air because I don't like coffee.
Speaker 3 (14:18):
Sure, I'll help.
Speaker 1 (14:21):
Oh my god, I've done that.
Speaker 4 (14:22):
I luckily my personality like held it together. Yeah, they still.
Speaker 2 (14:29):
Hire me to this day ten years later.
Speaker 3 (14:32):
No, and you guys still laugh about that.
Speaker 2 (14:34):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (14:34):
Yeah, Like remember when you showed up to do her
makeup with no makeup?
Speaker 2 (14:38):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (14:38):
Remember that time?
Speaker 1 (14:40):
She's like, I have I have this in my purse,
Like I have like thirteen glasses in my purse. Is
that well that well?
Speaker 2 (14:48):
Oh so yeah PTSD No.
Speaker 5 (14:50):
I know.
Speaker 1 (14:50):
I think back on it and I'm like, because I'm
my our friend Chris calls me the Queen of No,
because I'll just be like, no, I don't. I'm I'm
like see into the future of something, and I'm going
to say no because I'm just knowing that I'm either
going to be too tired or not going to want
to do it, or I'm not going to be my
best at it.
Speaker 5 (15:11):
Do you know what I do when I'm like on
the fence about something, And usually it's when it's like
a super early call time or something like that, and
I've already like done a lot and I'm like, it's
a super early call time going to be a really
long day.
Speaker 3 (15:24):
I like think about when my alarm goes off.
Speaker 5 (15:27):
Would I take that money and that they were going
to pay me and give it away.
Speaker 3 (15:33):
To be like, can let me sleep longer?
Speaker 5 (15:37):
Like I would take this money out of my bank
account give you that much to keep sleeping.
Speaker 3 (15:42):
It's definitely a no.
Speaker 2 (15:44):
That's the way I think about it. Perfect, that's funnier.
Speaker 3 (15:51):
Oh man.
Speaker 5 (15:52):
Yeah, if I'm feeling like that, then you know it's
it's probably you don't want that energy of being.
Speaker 2 (15:59):
Sure no and to piggyback off.
Speaker 4 (16:02):
Like what you were saying earlier is like you want
to be able to you know what you're good at,
you know what you like, you're laying to stay in,
and when you can stay there, it's easier to say
no because it makes you more like you can give
one hundred.
Speaker 2 (16:16):
Percent to that person. You're so confident.
Speaker 4 (16:19):
And when you can give a hundred percent and you
have nothing but confidence to back it up, you're going
to deliver every single time.
Speaker 5 (16:25):
Yeah, right, And like, you know, there's just so many
times that I feel like if I'm not showing up appropriately,
then what was like Rose feels it too. Yeah, I
don't want the whole room to feel that, because you know,
we're all in it together.
Speaker 2 (16:38):
Oh yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3 (16:40):
You guys all know, yeah yeah, big.
Speaker 5 (16:41):
Time energy when you're alongside people that you're like, oh.
Speaker 1 (16:45):
Boy, yep, yeah yeah. Can we talk about this brand
that you just got launched which is insane and congratulations congratulations?
Speaker 2 (16:56):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (16:57):
Okay, First, how did it all come about? Because I
know how hard this is and how like few and
far between like a good haircare brand comes about.
Speaker 3 (17:09):
It is.
Speaker 2 (17:11):
It's definitely tough. Huh yeah, it's.
Speaker 3 (17:14):
A lot, I mean, but I give it to you.
Speaker 5 (17:16):
Like doing a podcast, doing anything that like you're stepping.
Speaker 2 (17:19):
Out from behind to in front is.
Speaker 5 (17:24):
Like I think for all of us that are like
are behind and like you know, the cheerleaders in being
in the front is scary in whatever version you're doing.
But this one came about from Jamie Louveton, who started
Monday Haircare.
Speaker 1 (17:41):
Oh.
Speaker 2 (17:41):
I absolutely love Jamie.
Speaker 5 (17:43):
She was like, I want to, you know, like do
something together, and I was like, okay, yeah, and like
the best thing about her is she knows it, she
gets it, and then she's like, Okay, it's.
Speaker 3 (17:58):
Helpful to have someone who's also like she's a girl's girl.
She's great.
Speaker 5 (18:01):
So like, if I have you know, questions and or
like a feeling any sort of like oh my god,
or you know, the feelings that all are going to
bubble up. She's really good at being like it's all
good okay, or you're doing great, or we love this,
or just like giving it to you. So she's as
far as I'm concerned, the I can't think of a
(18:22):
better outcome.
Speaker 3 (18:24):
As far as who came to me with this?
Speaker 1 (18:27):
That's so cool? And so was she like what's your
have you ever thought about this and what's your vision
for it? And you were like, actually, I have a
million ideas because I've been thinking about this forever or yeah.
Speaker 5 (18:40):
I mean I think like they they had more of
the like kind of like that's their specialty, so they're
formula good and like I love these colors. I love
this and like making that all come to life, and
then like the things that I feel like, are you know,
are really good products? I think there's obviously so many
(19:03):
products out there, So is there anything like brand new
to reinvent the wheel? Like probably not so much, but
like you want to at least enjoy the products you're using.
You want to have great notes on them, Like the
dry shampoo, I absolutely love. I hear nothing but amazing reviews,
and which is great because you know how many dry shampoos.
Speaker 3 (19:22):
Are out there.
Speaker 5 (19:23):
Usually if you like Fatis, you don't like the IGK
one or like, you know, there's a but this seems
to be a universal, which always is like the best
feeling when you are as a stylist who really only styles.
Speaker 2 (19:36):
Hearing that about styling absolutely absolutely.
Speaker 1 (19:39):
Yeah, and you can use your own brand and you're like,
and I love it.
Speaker 2 (19:42):
I love it and I know it and like.
Speaker 5 (19:44):
I love it and it's like I let my hair
air dry using repair today.
Speaker 2 (19:49):
Oh yeah, repair hair. I mean god, I want your
hair so badly.
Speaker 1 (19:52):
Also, what's really cool about this is my favorite thing
is that a stacking.
Speaker 2 (19:57):
The stacking I know.
Speaker 1 (20:00):
Thing is if you want to put it in your shower.
Speaker 2 (20:01):
Like that, that's so dope, amazing.
Speaker 3 (20:03):
Yeah, I think it's so pretty.
Speaker 4 (20:05):
Like little books, what are some lines out there that
you've been personally inspired by that you kind of like
look towards as something.
Speaker 3 (20:13):
That I always liked Monday.
Speaker 5 (20:15):
I did like a vision board and Monday was on it,
Like I want to work with Monday, which is so
funny because you're, oh, you know my vision boards are
like when I go back, ye yeah no no no
no no no no no no.
Speaker 2 (20:27):
And I'm like, I'm like Monday.
Speaker 3 (20:30):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (20:30):
But it's funny because it was like it was a
big part of it. Like you know, I'll always write
down like before this happened, like brands I wanted to
work with people I wanted to work with, and then
it started.
Speaker 3 (20:41):
But I remember Monday it was like a really big.
Speaker 5 (20:43):
Call out in one of them, and then this like
maybe like six months later started like it was in talks.
Speaker 2 (20:51):
So that was cool. Yeah, there are other brands that
I like what they're doing.
Speaker 5 (20:57):
I've always liked sunbum I've always like, yeah, sun Bums
hair skews. I think they do a great job and
I think they are like it's just cool, buy it
if you buy it. I love what they do. I
love their brand Days too, and I like day yea
d a e.
Speaker 1 (21:16):
Oh d A. Beach Spray is on another level. I
was just thinking about that because I have I use
it on myself and I have it in my kit.
They're they're so dreamy. Just the whole line is really
dreamy and the spray cereal kind of thing.
Speaker 3 (21:33):
Good.
Speaker 1 (21:34):
Yeah, I just love their beach spray like so much.
Speaker 3 (21:38):
Yeah, their beach is really good. They have like a
miracle something too.
Speaker 2 (21:42):
That's good.
Speaker 1 (21:42):
Also that I like the cream.
Speaker 5 (21:45):
I think the cream of course, I think I feel
like that cactious cream.
Speaker 3 (21:49):
Everybody knows it.
Speaker 1 (21:50):
Yeah, yeah, I think they.
Speaker 5 (21:52):
They do a really good job as far as kind
of like cooler brands.
Speaker 1 (21:58):
And it's not like a full line, right, It's just
like a couple of bibity bops and that's it.
Speaker 3 (22:04):
I think.
Speaker 5 (22:04):
So I don't really know pop shampoo conditioner, and I
think they have purple shampoo conditioner too.
Speaker 1 (22:12):
Yeah. They don't have like a full styling like it's
they're like, yeah, I feel like they release little nuggets
and then you're like, oh divine right, yeah yummy.
Speaker 4 (22:22):
Yeah I need to get on a good hair care regimen.
Speaker 1 (22:26):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (22:28):
Yeah, they do a really good job because I think
what's hard with brands is any brand I feel like
it has to be cool, Yeah, because there's enough brands,
but like cool is such a non tangible element that
likes it's either an energy that's there, it's not so
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I always that's kind of what I gravitate towards and
brands that feel cool and that's why I like mine.
Speaker 3 (22:57):
I feel like it looks cool and still looks elevated.
Speaker 1 (23:00):
Yeah, I definitely feel like you've captured that in this
brand for sure. For sure. Like it's it's not overly scented,
which I enjoy too. So like you get like you're like, oh,
I still like smell really like I smell yummy in
the shower. I smell yummy after the shower. But it's
not like too much, you know what I mean, right,
(23:20):
because I actually kind of have been loving fragrance free stuff.
It's probably just because I'm pregnant and I'm trying not
to like kill myself and my view.
Speaker 5 (23:28):
Are Yeah, I know, first and all, my congratulations, thank
you so much.
Speaker 1 (23:36):
Yeah, it's an accidental got pregnant at forty one situation,
and I.
Speaker 2 (23:41):
Love We couldn't We couldn't be happier.
Speaker 1 (23:47):
Best friends, we could be. I know. It's actually something
I never saw myself doing. But now I'm like so
excited that it just it just happened. And I have
the best partner and he's so cute and he's so excited.
We were both just like living life going. We don't
want kids. We're so rich, and then we're rich. We're
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so rich and famous, and then I got pregnant.
Speaker 5 (24:11):
I want you, yeah, kids, and some kids like no, no, no,
I'm coming down for you.
Speaker 2 (24:16):
Guys.
Speaker 1 (24:16):
Oh yeah, this little soul was like yeah, yeah, like that.
Speaker 2 (24:19):
They seem kind of fun.
Speaker 3 (24:22):
I think we'll have a good life with them.
Speaker 2 (24:25):
Oh guys, Oh my.
Speaker 1 (24:26):
God, I'm gonna have a lot of eye. I know,
I'm excited.
Speaker 2 (24:28):
Woody. His name is Woody, Woody Wilkerson.
Speaker 1 (24:29):
Little baby Woody.
Speaker 2 (24:31):
Stop.
Speaker 1 (24:34):
But I've been like really sensitive to smelled during this
whole entire situation, situation, pregnancy, my condition, and even before
I even found out I was pregnant, I was like
getting rid of super toxic ship and so like a
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really light fragrance is just wow to me right now.
And so like I love this line that just understated.
Speaker 2 (25:05):
Yeah, I feel like.
Speaker 1 (25:06):
It's there, but it's also it's not.
Speaker 5 (25:08):
Your I mean, you obviously want like a good experience
in the shower, everyone does, and you want your hair
to feel good, but you also most people leave the
shower and are like using like scented body wash, and
then your spraying, like your lotion is scented, and then
your perfume scented, and then you just like it's too much,
(25:29):
so like you know, somebody's got to sit back and
just like deliver on.
Speaker 3 (25:33):
Like your hair looks good.
Speaker 5 (25:34):
Yeah, you're enjoying your experience and your hair looks good,
and you got a light scent, so people like are like, oh,
you smell clean.
Speaker 3 (25:41):
That's perfect.
Speaker 1 (25:42):
Yeah, it's all yeah, is to smell clean.
Speaker 2 (25:45):
I also want my.
Speaker 4 (25:45):
Hair to grow, that's all I want. It's stopped growing.
It stopped growing at this length right here. I was
talking to my friend in the gym today and she
was like, I don't know if it's my it's like
or Perry Perry periwinkle metopause.
Speaker 2 (25:58):
I like to call it.
Speaker 3 (26:00):
Yeah, that's like crazy.
Speaker 2 (26:03):
I'm like, right, well, it's happened. Yes, it's happening.
Speaker 4 (26:09):
So my hair, like you know, my hair used to
be full, and clearly the.
Speaker 2 (26:14):
Texture has changed a lot.
Speaker 4 (26:15):
Well, I put clippings in now because it's literally stop.
Speaker 3 (26:19):
What are you? What are you doing? What are you
using in the shower?
Speaker 2 (26:22):
That's what I'm like.
Speaker 4 (26:23):
I don't know, I've tried so many different things and
I think I'm switching.
Speaker 3 (26:27):
Doing too much protein in your hair though, no.
Speaker 4 (26:32):
Right now, I think I'm I'm on Native because I
was like, I need to just like go clean slate,
like no soul fates, I need to like go I don't.
I don't know, like and I'm really excited that I'm
talking to you right now an expert and hopefully I
can get on this.
Speaker 3 (26:48):
And I just I like to repair. I feel like
my hair got really long. I have to.
Speaker 5 (26:53):
I've had to really a little time because it just
like keeps growing, which says nobody.
Speaker 2 (26:58):
Ever, which says nobody ever ever.
Speaker 5 (27:01):
Ever, I've seen it really grow. And it's like actually
like in the like clinical results, not just saying no. Sure,
you know you read things always, whether it's my own,
clinical real to someone else and you're like, yeah, you're bullshit,
And then you see it happen, You're like, oh, well.
Speaker 4 (27:17):
That's why you're doing this, so you can help people,
So you can help people actually get results, so like your.
Speaker 3 (27:22):
Biblely have seen it helps.
Speaker 5 (27:24):
But I also feel like it's always if you went
through a phase of using too much protein in your
hair or too many like rebuilding or bond building stuff,
if you overuse that, which I don't think there's like
quite enough education about like how much you should and
shouldn't be using. It's the same as it's the same
(27:46):
concept of like when you turn your curling iron on,
does it have to go to the highest heat setting?
Speaker 3 (27:53):
Is that right for your hair?
Speaker 5 (27:54):
Probably not, you know, like you probably only need like
a middle heat setting, don't need.
Speaker 3 (28:00):
The highest heat setting.
Speaker 5 (28:02):
So it's the same with like any bond building too
much protein, And honestly, like nobody needs too much moisture
either that's going to weigh your hair down. But the
bond buildings sometimes it just like opens your hair up
too much and then it like and I do I'm
not like a scientist on any of this, but I've
heard and seen people have had some issues when over
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using it.
Speaker 2 (28:26):
Which makes sense.
Speaker 4 (28:28):
Spray the protein spray from IGK, I use that pretty often.
Speaker 2 (28:33):
Use I don't think that might be.
Speaker 5 (28:35):
I don't I've never tried that one or used that
one or anything about it.
Speaker 3 (28:39):
But yeah, I just think everything in moderation.
Speaker 5 (28:41):
Yeah, And I'm not trying to get any like all
those things are great, for sure, there's a time and
place for them. It's just they're like it's not an
every day you don't need a scout scrub every single day,
you know, right, yeah, same concept?
Speaker 1 (28:58):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I hear you do. You're you a.
Speaker 4 (29:00):
Fan of like natural remedies too, like for hair growth,
like oil.
Speaker 5 (29:07):
Well, people love rice, water, people love what is it?
Castor oil?
Speaker 3 (29:12):
I think is the one. I think people are into
that one.
Speaker 1 (29:16):
I love that for my us.
Speaker 5 (29:18):
I mean, I know, like for postpartum there's like drops
you can use. I forget what they're called. It's a
monomoxo something.
Speaker 2 (29:27):
The monomoxa monomoxa.
Speaker 5 (29:30):
Yeah, there's like Stephie can put in like spurs, specific spots. Yeah,
when that when you knock down that door, which I
did my daughters eight and I was like eight year
old daughter too little like but whatever it was like
wings is crazy.
Speaker 4 (29:47):
Yeah, I had a cut banks. I have an eight
year old daughter too.
Speaker 3 (29:50):
Oh there you go. Oh girls are the best, sorry.
Speaker 2 (29:52):
Best, let's say what I.
Speaker 1 (29:53):
Said, Well, I wanted a girl, but I'm excited to
have a big gay son, so like.
Speaker 5 (30:01):
But then I have no point of reference of like
if a son's great, I'm just like girls are the.
Speaker 2 (30:05):
Back, especially eight year old. What's your daughter's name, Laura,
her name's breathe breeze like the wind.
Speaker 1 (30:11):
Yeah. Cool, that's a really cool name.
Speaker 3 (30:13):
Cool. What's what's your name?
Speaker 2 (30:16):
Charlie?
Speaker 5 (30:17):
Charlie, Charlie can't go wrong. Everyone loves the Charlie. I
don't know one girl Charlie that.
Speaker 2 (30:22):
People are like Charlie. Fuck that Charlie sucks.
Speaker 3 (30:25):
Yeah, Like I was like, Oh, she's cool. I want
to be friends with her.
Speaker 2 (30:28):
Every singer exactly, that's Charlie.
Speaker 3 (30:30):
So that's good.
Speaker 1 (30:32):
I have a question, yes, So I feel like, doing
what we do, especially now that you've like started a brand,
how do you deal with like imposter syndrome even not
having a brand. I'm sure we've like we've all dealt
with it. It's so I'm always like, how does everyone
(30:54):
do it? Because we all get in our own heads
or we all like get in our own way or whatever.
Just how do you deal with that?
Speaker 2 (31:03):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (31:03):
I don't know that because like, yeah, it's like when
people say something to me like I am used to
like I said, being you know in the getting ready
parts when you have to kind of step out, that's
been challenging, you think, because you know, it's like scary
(31:24):
to put yourself out there in a different way, especially
because social media is obviously amazing and so powerful, however harsh,
So you're always scared the more you put yourself out there,
Like the more oh you are, you're opening a door.
Speaker 3 (31:42):
Yeah, like I don't want to, I don't.
Speaker 2 (31:44):
You just got to turn the noise off.
Speaker 3 (31:46):
Yeah, that's gard.
Speaker 5 (31:47):
That's the only part is like making sure like I
don't ever because I'll get like easily distracted from those things.
Speaker 2 (31:53):
Sure.
Speaker 5 (31:54):
Yeah, like that will definitely get in my head and
then reflect outward. I hear like anything at all negative,
but that doesn't matter, but that's been happening forever. That's like,
I know it is I with this, but you like,
you know, it's just a new step.
Speaker 1 (32:13):
Yeah, they're like different ways. You can deal with it
in like a positive way instead of a negative way,
or how I would deal with it ten years ago
is different than how I deal with it now, or
you know, like whatever. It's just I'm always so curious
because everybody online just looks so like they're not struggling
with anything, and then you're like, I know, oh it's
real life.
Speaker 5 (32:33):
Yeah, cors, I can't feel like what is there to
be upset about.
Speaker 1 (32:38):
Really, at the end of the day, it's like we
played dress up for a living.
Speaker 5 (32:42):
Well, no, I don't like I'm like everything's great, Like
I love my life, I love my friends, I.
Speaker 3 (32:47):
Love my daughter, I love having fun.
Speaker 5 (32:49):
I amen my brand, Amen fucking boom.
Speaker 3 (32:55):
What times I get. I love who I partnered with.
I love Yeah, so good. Like even if like a
little noise gets.
Speaker 1 (33:02):
In, it's like, yeah, yeah, whatever, it doesn't matter. Ever
carry once said, yeah, nothing matters.
Speaker 2 (33:09):
Nothing matters. You're my type of vibe.
Speaker 4 (33:11):
That's how I'm like, what a privilege it is to
be alive and to be able to get to do
what we do.
Speaker 2 (33:15):
And yeah, like it's not that hardy, it's not bad.
It's that when you think about it, and it's not
that deep. I'm not that cool and it's not that deep.
Speaker 1 (33:25):
It's never that deep.
Speaker 5 (33:27):
Yeah, And like ultimately I get to like hang out
for a living like, O, how nice?
Speaker 3 (33:34):
So what's really like all that bad or hard about it?
Speaker 2 (33:39):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (33:39):
And I feel like if I if I'm like having
a day where I'm like it's usually like I'm overworked
and I'll like just be sensitive and I'll be like
oh you know, or like something will get to me
then whatever. Then honestly, sometimes even if I just go
to work like that, social interaction is like forget about
(33:59):
anything that was bothering you on the drive over A yeah.
Speaker 1 (34:02):
You're like, I just needed a nap.
Speaker 3 (34:04):
So sorry, guys, I needed a nap is so real.
Speaker 1 (34:09):
I just needed a n app.
Speaker 3 (34:10):
I'm sorry.
Speaker 1 (34:14):
I picked everybody.
Speaker 3 (34:16):
And my mom will be like, take a nap.
Speaker 2 (34:18):
Yeah. I will know it's three o'clock.
Speaker 4 (34:20):
There will be no clock around, but I know it's
three o'clock because my internal nap like a baby, like
a baby, a little baby. Every day I'm like, oh,
my naptime.
Speaker 1 (34:30):
I didn't know you were a nap.
Speaker 3 (34:31):
Oh.
Speaker 2 (34:31):
I love napping.
Speaker 4 (34:32):
If I'm not doing anything or if I'm doing stuff
during the day, I know, like my nap time and
then I get my second wind.
Speaker 2 (34:39):
It's my second chapter.
Speaker 1 (34:40):
Of the day. Okay, I a nap. Okay, are you ready?
We're gonna wrap this up so and I know you're
so busy, but of course we have rapid fires. What
else would we do it?
Speaker 3 (34:50):
Okay, do it?
Speaker 1 (34:52):
Favorite go to hairstyle?
Speaker 5 (34:53):
I like that cool girl bend. It's like a really
undone bend.
Speaker 1 (34:57):
Yeah, we love that. Least favor hair trend like ever
any genre, any year, any decade, any anything.
Speaker 5 (35:05):
I hated those extension ponytails to the floor.
Speaker 1 (35:11):
M oh, I feel like they're still here. Well there's
still around sometimes.
Speaker 3 (35:16):
Yeah, I'm not good at it, so don't call me
to do it. Yeah?
Speaker 2 (35:23):
Mine right now?
Speaker 4 (35:24):
Personally, my problem is the weird, the bang, the bang
o the bang.
Speaker 5 (35:29):
What is it going on?
Speaker 1 (35:37):
I feel like the only person that could really really
kill that look is the lead singer of Die ant Word.
Do you remember that band?
Speaker 2 (35:44):
Yes? Yes, Yeah, that's it. That's that's it. Only her,
she's it.
Speaker 3 (35:49):
Or like, don't bring that inspo and think it's going
to look like you.
Speaker 2 (35:53):
Let it die at Antword?
Speaker 1 (35:54):
Yeah, let it die at York. Best industry advice you
were ever given?
Speaker 3 (36:00):
I guess, like think it till you make it?
Speaker 1 (36:01):
Love that. Who is your hair icon?
Speaker 3 (36:05):
Like whose hair do I love?
Speaker 1 (36:07):
Yeah? It could be whose hair do you love? Or
if there's a hairstylist that you idol?
Speaker 3 (36:11):
Or I always love Sanna Miller's hair.
Speaker 2 (36:14):
Oh good one, nice one.
Speaker 3 (36:16):
She has the best hair.
Speaker 1 (36:18):
Gorgeous, Ye have really good hair, favorite hair trick or
hair hack.
Speaker 5 (36:23):
Honestly, I feel like it's if you want this bend
all you do is you as it's wet and drying,
you push it down like this, you let it sit
back here when it's damp, and then when you take
it out you have that bend.
Speaker 2 (36:36):
No ship, no ship.
Speaker 3 (36:39):
But that's how you get this.
Speaker 5 (36:42):
But I've been leaving it out because I don't I mean,
my hair is so a little damp. I don't want
to be like this, like you know, the whole time,
but that hack I feel like, and then you just
kind of push it down.
Speaker 4 (36:54):
Yea all these years, like everyone is always trying to
do it, and like if you put an iron here,
that's gonna.
Speaker 1 (37:01):
Make's gonna make it go back.
Speaker 5 (37:03):
Yeah, yeah, you can sort of do it if you
go like this, maybe with an iron, but like it's
just easier.
Speaker 2 (37:09):
And if you do, you can just put heat on
it also.
Speaker 3 (37:12):
And tuck it and let it cool back there and
then when you take it out.
Speaker 5 (37:17):
This is such a terrible example. Howd I just fully
let my hair air dry like I normally do. You
would really see it, but we know we ty to
look a little more professional.
Speaker 2 (37:26):
Oh we see it.
Speaker 1 (37:27):
Listen, Okay, we're all yeah, Fay must have travel product.
Speaker 3 (37:32):
For yourself, probably just a mini wet brush.
Speaker 2 (37:37):
Okay, many wet brush.
Speaker 1 (37:38):
Okay, I hear you, like, I.
Speaker 3 (37:39):
Have to use the wet brush. I have fine hair.
It'll fall apart.
Speaker 1 (37:42):
I hear you.
Speaker 5 (37:42):
I see it'll be trying to brush with the Mason
pierson my hair out of the shower.
Speaker 3 (37:46):
I'll lose it all.
Speaker 1 (37:47):
Also, what's a Aren't those like six hundred dollars or something?
Speaker 3 (37:51):
Right?
Speaker 2 (37:52):
But you know some people like yeah, totally yes, you
are like, oh, I spend.
Speaker 5 (37:57):
Six hundred dollars. This is this is the brush I
should be using in every instance.
Speaker 3 (38:01):
You're like, you know the seven dollars.
Speaker 1 (38:03):
Dry hair, Yeah, seven dollars web brush.
Speaker 3 (38:06):
No, no, no, no, I just want Yeah, that's what
I need.
Speaker 1 (38:08):
Luxury.
Speaker 3 (38:12):
And all you hear is the ripping.
Speaker 1 (38:15):
A Mason pears and haircut. What is your go to
hair tool that you use personally and in your kit?
Speaker 2 (38:25):
Okay, So at home, I use this.
Speaker 3 (38:28):
It's like a it's a conair brush.
Speaker 5 (38:31):
Yeah, it's like a hot tool brush that's like a
blowout brush, but it's it's on you only use it
on dry hair.
Speaker 1 (38:37):
Okay.
Speaker 5 (38:37):
So it's like when my hair is dry, I'll let
go in and like twist the ends and like maybe
get myself some volume and it always sits pretty.
Speaker 3 (38:44):
That's at home.
Speaker 5 (38:46):
The one tool I can do anything with is I
feel like a one inch yeah for one in a quarter,
not one inches too small?
Speaker 3 (38:54):
One in a quarter?
Speaker 1 (38:55):
Okay, your favorite hair tread right now.
Speaker 3 (39:00):
Oh I've been I've been really loving well executed triple
barrel waves.
Speaker 2 (39:07):
Okay, okay, executed triple barrels.
Speaker 5 (39:10):
So the well executed, like when it looks like that
really cool like mermaidy hair on.
Speaker 2 (39:17):
Now you don't see any.
Speaker 5 (39:18):
Crease marks and you don't see exactly that it went
like this, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (39:22):
And the biggest hair care mistake that you think people
use or do on accident.
Speaker 3 (39:28):
I think it's the over protein building.
Speaker 5 (39:31):
Okay, to be honest and then feeling like you you know,
you did it to yourself, and when the truth is
like maybe in some ways you did because you didn't
read the packaging, because but who does?
Speaker 3 (39:44):
Yeah, you know what am I to do?
Speaker 5 (39:46):
Read the bottle and it's going to tell me to
watch once or twice like I already know that, you know,
And then you don't think anything's going to say something new,
so nobody goes through that step. And then people are like,
oh my god, what happened and it was just a mistake.
Speaker 2 (40:01):
Yeah, it's amazing. I'm overwashing. I go on the protein.
Speaker 4 (40:05):
I'm overproteining. I go in the sauna five to six
days a week, so I have to wash my hair.
Speaker 3 (40:09):
Oh I feel like the sauna too, my not.
Speaker 2 (40:13):
I just found that are doing to.
Speaker 5 (40:15):
Sauna you can put I like to put like a
mask on my hair when I go in, so it
like sinks in, you know what I mean? Oh okay,
I like to do that so it like really sinks in,
or like some conditioner.
Speaker 4 (40:28):
Should I wet my hair first and then put it
in and then go in the sauna.
Speaker 5 (40:32):
If you're going to take a shower after, you're going
to like go through all those steps anyways. But I
feel like when you're putting that like hot dry heat,
that's gonna make hair more susceptible to snapping. So if
you kind of coat it and let it sink in
and protect it then.
Speaker 1 (40:48):
With a non protein like something that isn't protein though, right, Yeah.
Speaker 4 (40:52):
I really need lore today, which is because I talked
about my hair all day at the gym.
Speaker 2 (40:55):
Tie was like, it's what's happening to it. But I
really think that the years.
Speaker 5 (40:59):
Okay, I know, and now you know, and you can
like just keep it in your routine and lessen it up.
Speaker 2 (41:06):
Yeah, I've bet a lot of the RepA issue repair
conditioner right here. Yeah, this is all me tomorrow.
Speaker 3 (41:11):
You could put that in.
Speaker 5 (41:12):
You could just like put that in before you go
in the sauna. Yeah, like assuming you shower after and
wash your hair. But it sounds like with what you
just said that you're over washing. You probably sauna and
then wash.
Speaker 3 (41:24):
Yes, yeah, but I don't.
Speaker 5 (41:26):
I mean I don't know like your hair and what
it can take. I can't see it, but I feel like.
Speaker 2 (41:32):
I wash my hair every day.
Speaker 4 (41:34):
Oh yeah, I think I honestly though, somebody told me,
like one person I was in there, like, yeah, saunas
are amazing for you. The benefits are outrageous. But one
thing that it does cause is like hair loss over
a long amount of time. And I've been doing it
regularly for about six years.
Speaker 2 (41:48):
And maybe that's what it is. Yeah, that and hormones.
Speaker 4 (41:53):
Yeah, I'm going to try to do this because I'm
not going to knock go on the sauna or get
a funny little cap.
Speaker 2 (41:57):
Yeah, funny little cat.
Speaker 5 (41:58):
I mean, I feel like there's a like solutions that
will help you, and I feel like that is always
that's a good one.
Speaker 2 (42:05):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (42:05):
Yeah, well amazing. Thank you so much for joining at
Truly and listeners and people that are watching you. Can
you just go to Laura Poco on Instagram her personal
one or low Laura Poco Hair and then anybody can
pick this up on Laura pocohair dot com or no.
Speaker 3 (42:24):
Well Target Target, Yeah.
Speaker 1 (42:26):
Okay, it's not online yet, it's just a Target. Yeah, Tarjet.
That's so congratulations.
Speaker 2 (42:34):
Yeah, that's a major Target, but it's.
Speaker 3 (42:37):
Do you love Target? Growing up in La though.
Speaker 1 (42:40):
Uh yeah, I feel like I've been going to Target
for like ever and every time I go back to La,
I'm like, oh, the Target's in La just hit different.
Speaker 5 (42:49):
Yeah, the hometown Target if there's nothing like see you later.
Speaker 1 (42:53):
Yeah, the ones in Beverly Hills, the ones in Glendale,
the one like they're just they just have all the
fresh new ship.
Speaker 2 (43:01):
They've got that six hundred dollars brush. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (43:03):
Yeah, I'm so excited to try everything of yours.
Speaker 1 (43:12):
Yeah. Absolutely, And if you're ever in Nashville, come hang
out with us or tell your agent to book you
more in Nashville. That'd be great.
Speaker 3 (43:19):
Okay, I'll put it on my next vision board. Itill happen.
Speaker 1 (43:21):
Yeah, lock up us on your vision board. Thank you
so much.
Speaker 3 (43:26):
Guys.
Speaker 2 (43:27):
Yes, we'll talk to you Laura. Okay, cool,
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