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October 9, 2025 53 mins

At time of record, the world is waiting to see if a peace deal in the Middle East has been achieved. Jemma and Marina hope with every bit of them it happens but also discuss what it might, or might not mean, in reality. Then they pay tribute to some remarkable women - Jilly Cooper, and Dr. Jane Goodall - trailblazers in their own right who entertained, inspired, and made the world better. They also touch on a very Trawly online spat featuring none other than Livia Firth, serving up some chef’s kiss sass to Esther McVey.


Then they wade into the Tory conference because..... someone has to. Kemi Badenoch is channelling Doge and Musk and wants to emulate ICE, Chris Philp delivers a speech that could double as a David Brent sketch, and they can't spell.


Across the pond, Trump’s mask slips even further as Project 25 edges closer to reality. Fascism’s no longer hiding and America’s veterans and voters are reacting. But with key right-wing voices starting to break ranks and Democrats finally showing some teeth, is a turning point coming?


Finally, this week’s pudding is a moving final message from the incomparable Jane Goodall. A quiet reminder of grace, courage and hope and a stark contrast to the political nonsense the Trawl ladies have trawled through on your behalf.


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