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April 3, 2025 81 mins

Welcome to episode 86 of The Way Out Is In: The Zen Art of Living, a podcast series mirroring Zen Master Thich Nhat Hanh’s deep teachings of Buddhist philosophy: a simple yet profound methodology for dealing with our suffering, and for creating more happiness and joy in our lives.

In this installment, Zen Buddhist monk Brother Phap Huu and leadership coach/journalist Jo Confino discuss Thich Nhat Hanh’s calligraphic work ‘Are You Sure?’. Together, the presenters discuss how this simple question encourages us to examine our perceptions, assumptions, and certainties about ourselves and  the world around us as a path to greater understanding and well-being.

The conversation further explores the importance of cultivating an open, curious, and reflective mindset, rather than clinging to rigid beliefs or opinions; being present, listening deeply to ourselves and others; the value of community, friendship, and feedback in helping us to see our blind spots and to grow; the interplay between the historical and ultimate dimensions of life, and how holding multiple perspectives can allow us to respond with wisdom and compassion; and more. 

The episode concludes with a short meditation guided by Brother Phap Huu.

Enjoy! 


Co-produced by the Plum Village App:
https://plumvillage.app/  

And Global Optimism:
https://globaloptimism.com/

With support from the Thich Nhat Hanh Foundation:
https://thichnhathanhfoundation.org/


List of resources

Interbeing
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interbeing  

Koan
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Koan 

Cong Phu Journal – Everything You Need to Know About the Practice Notebook
https://plumvillage.app/cong-phu-journal-everything-you-need-to-know-about-the-practice-notebook

Plum Village podcast: ‘With Each and Every Brushstroke: When Art and Meditation Come Together’
https://plumvillage.org/library/meditation/with-each-and-every-brushstroke-when-art-meditation-come-together

The Fourteen Mindfulness Trainings
https://plumvillage.org/mindfulness/the-14-mindfulness-trainings 

Sister Peace
https://www.sfzc.org/teachers/sister-peace 

Brother Phap Khoi
https://plumvillage.org/people/dharma-teachers/brother-phap-khoi

The Way Out Is In: ‘Shining Light (Episode #63)’
https://plumvillage.org/podcast/shining-light-episode-63  

The Way Out Is In: ‘Bringing the Ultimate Dimension Down to Earth (Episode #40)’
https://plumvillage.org/podcast/bringing-the-ultimate-dimension-down-to-earth-episode-40 

Joanna Macy
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